I agree that verticals are better for derailleurs, but what about
buyers who may want to use a ss hub or hub gear? Are they to be
deprived of the cheapest Rivendell?

Note that this comes from someone who overrode Grant's suggestion of
horizontals for two customs and ended up fixi-fying them: one with an
ENO and one with replacement 1010s.

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Seth Vidal <[email protected]> wrote:
> Heartily agreed, steve.
>
> -sv
>
> On Jul 4, 2012 1:11 PM, "Steve Palincsar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 11:53 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote:
>> > +1 on all that, especially horizontal drops
>>
>> Why?  They're an enormous pain in the a$$ with no benefit for users of
>> derailleur drive trains, and this bike is coming with a derailleur drive
>> train.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >         I guess that the Xmart crowd often (not always, of course)
>> >         spends high
>> >         $ on cars and big trucks a lot fancier than many listers own,
>> >         along
>> >         with big TVs, electronic junk and fancy phones/service, at
>> >         least to
>> >         judge by what I see in the parking lot and on the shelves at
>> >         my (as
>> >         rare as possible) trips to the WalMart near my mother's house.
>> >
>> >         I hope the new bike has horizontal dropouts.
>>
>>
>>
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