People PLEASE. If Grant wants to snag some Surly/SOMA buyers with a cheaper 
Rivendell sold as a complete derailer bike, he's gonna use verticals like 
they do. If any Riv were a candidate for "eccentric dropouts", it would be 
the HS/Rosco/Bosco, which is not intended to have a front derailer. This 
not-for-big-hills cruiser is a better candidate for SS or IGH. 
 
Joe "please produce the Bosco" Bernard
Vallejo, CA. 

On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:59:55 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

> I'm a giant fan of fixed gear bikes, but I'm tired of horizontal dropouts. 
> If a bike is made for derailleurs, vertical makes more sense. I might 
> prefer verticals all around, and use an eccentric ENO hub. Most of my 
> aspirational bikes come with Phil eccentric bottom brackets to get the 
> advantage of verticality. 
>
>  Philip
>
> Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:54:17 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 11:39 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: 
>> > 
>> > * Why would you want to mar, disfigure, upset, compromise, handicap, 
>> > uglify and depreciate a **Rivendell** -- even the cheapest!! -- with a 
>> > (gawd-DAMN!!) derailleur??!! 
>> > 
>>
>> You do realize the bike in question will come delivered with 
>> derailleurs, according to the Riv blog? 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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