TRUDY: There are also political considerations within ATSIC that are
preventing
Clarke from stepping down and that is why you haven't heard anything
from Howard's mob. Burke is so dense he hasn't picked up on it.
What could those political considerations possibly be?
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Tim,
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>
> Trudy,
>
> Of course Howard wouldn't stand down - and I, too, was thinking of the
> example set by him and his ministers during the various rorts allegations
> (though Labor doesn't come out with much cred on this score either).
>
> Why pick on Clarke?
It was a rhetorical question, Tim.
I wasn't, though Karen might have been. Interestingly,
> no-one in the Howard govt has picked on him in this regard either. I
think
> Burke said he should stand down.
Yes, it was Burke...and Karen.
>
> But the comment stands - if I would expect Howard to stand down, I should
> expect the same behaviour of Clarke. To argue that he shouldn't because
> Howard probably wouldn't is a dangerous route, isn't it? At the very
least
> it is saying that Clarke is maintaining the same low standards as Howard.
> Is it really picking on Clarke to suggest that he should maintain higher
> standards than the dread Johnny?
I agree with you, Tim, that ALL in those kinds of situations should
stand down. It seems, however, that society has accepted - in general -
what has become the standard behaviour of this government.
There are also political considerations within ATSIC that are preventing
Clarke from stepping down and that is why you haven't heard anything
from Howard's mob. Burke is so dense he hasn't picked up on it.
Trudy
>
> Tim
> ===============
> Trudy wrote:
> >Tim,
> >
> >You might expect him to but he wouldn't, would he? There USED to be
> >procedural niceties here until the Howard mob got in and did away with
> >them. It is their disrespect and contempt for decent behaviour that has
> >permeated our society - if it isn't illegal, it's on. Remember all the
> >government ministers and hangers-on that should have stood down but
> >didn't, with Howard's support? Now he's fomenting contempt of the UN.
> >Why pick on Clarke alone?
> >
> >Trudy
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Sandy's right - Karen is being needlessly provocative. And Trudy is
> right,
> >> she has the guy convicted without the benefit of a trial. Nonetheless,
> >> there are some procedural niceties to consider here - if John Howard
were
> >> accused of rape, I'd sure as hell expect him to stand aside until the
> trial.
> >> Consistency compels me to think Clarke should too. Dontchareckon?
> >>
> >> Tim
> >> ==================
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Trudy & Rod Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 12:54 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Re: The Canberra Times: Burke calls on ATSIC
> chair
> >> to stand down while ...
> >>
> >> >Have you convicted him already? What happened to innocent until PROVEN
> >> >guilty? Burke, Howard and Court have condemned themselves.
> >> >
> >> >Trudy
> >> >
> >>
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