Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:57 PM, ken manheimer <ken.manhei...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> i'm getting the impression that you have a talent for understatement. :-) > > Yeah. People keep telling me that, no idea why :) > >> through a happy accident, a search through my inbox for "repoze" turned up >> shane hathaway's february 2009 zope.pipeline proposal. it's very >> illuminating. it definitely helps me understand more about what all the >> fuss is, and more of what's going on. > > In the end the handling of a request/response and the notion of > publishing is on of the core parts of our web frameworks. For a long > time we had relative stability in that area, with ZPublisher and > zope.publisher being the only two options. Today there's repoze.zope2, > repoze.bfg, bobo, the zope.pipeline proposal all trying to improve in > that area. But these are technology innovations only usable in their > respective frameworks. Unless you want to work on improving the > publishing story yourself, you can largely ignore these debates and > stick with whatever each tool gives you. Nobody can tell if we are > going to diverge further or if ideas will converge again at some > point.
For the record, Shane indicated to me earlier this year that he doesn't intend to see zope.pipeline to its logical conclusion; instead, when it makes sense, he'll pull features out of Zope and into middleware when those components can be used independent of the rest of the Zope stack. > >> tres has often referred to the ironic chinese curse, "may you live in >> interesting >> times" - these are interesting times, indeed, for a web application >> developer. > > Yes, they are. Zope has switched from being one or two major projects > into a whole landscape of different options going in all kinds of > different directions at lots of different levels. You have to evaluate > these tools independently and see how each one does for the job you > have in mind. I think there are only three true Zopey options at the moment for application integrators: Zope2/Plone, Grok, or BFG. All the other stuff (like Zope3, repoze.zope2, etc.) are more or less either just libraries or promising thought experiments, and integrators should ignore them. - C _______________________________________________ Repoze-dev mailing list Repoze-dev@lists.repoze.org http://lists.repoze.org/listinfo/repoze-dev
