[NetBehaviour] away

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi, apologies for not responding, we're away playing music w/Stephen Dydo 
in the midst of my covid acting up.


So far, flute, uke, and pipa -
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[NetBehaviour] rain

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rain

https://youtu.be/g65yb3s7Hvw rain rain rain rain rain

The gods descend like rain into meadows and wild fields
The last rain of Isadore Ducasse
The rain we were shooting in the rain and
The rain is raining out
The rain stops
The rain starts again

rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain
rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain
rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain

The rain stops
The rain starts again

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[NetBehaviour] couldn't let go of these (silent video)

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couldn't let go of these (silent video)

https://youtu.be/IebHqLczUQ4 video

what i've done you can't take that away from me.
what i've done i can't take that anywhere.
what i am i'd change it for the world.
what i am the world would turn that down.
i score coria. o corrupted organs.
o uncorrupted saz, guitar, oud, shakuhachi
i would plant a ring of shakuarchi.
the ring would follow me, pest, simulacrum, gone.
i would not play the shakuhachi.
i would play the pithkiavlin
the pithkiavlin would follow me, then gone.
when i turn around they are all gone, all going.
to go is to thin the horizon, rob it of meaning.
to go is to be all gone. it is not to disappear.
i disappear from this, from these words.
whoosh whoosh whoosh.

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[NetBehaviour] to me stiletto */virtual world/*

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to me stiletto */virtual world/*

https://youtu.be/-506Nqsjd0E video

2:59AM (0 minutes ago) to me -
I swear to God, if I do one more of these things that has
Jehovah, twine or allentives of choji Alan took oji or jewelry
twine over and over and over again, I'm gonna go crazy period
I've run out of ideas period I'm working in black & white big
whoopi period I'm trying to convey something. Using multiple
levels of meaning and semantics period this is all I seem to be
able to do period it's a complete failure period it's a disaster
period it's one of the worst pieces. I've ever made period the
piece mocks me period the piece makes fun of me period I can't
get away from it period I'm just too g** Exhausted to sit
around and dictate and her ear. Rather, sit around and right and
articulate period this is what happens when you have a diseased
mind in a diseased body period this is what happens is no end to
it, there's no answer to it period it's old material period it's
hashing over old things period the only thing new about it is
there's a kind of nursing constituency to what there's kind of a
medical constituency period as if the result of bad language and
bad art is. A result of bad medicine and.  And bad disease
period

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[NetBehaviour] Improvisation on Afghani Rubab

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Improvisation on Afghani Rubab

https://youtu.be/6X58UCa0k8w video

very old afghan rubab, the lunar instrument to play, the
ancestor of the sarod, and my rubab is rubab is beautifully
described and played by the ethnomusicology music, difference
between rubab and rebab, issues of Japanese tuning and retuning
rubab, and thinking about 'amenable,' this rubab with noise
reduction in no discernible order, the girt steel of the
modulated rubab, rubab rebake Kebara jabbled webboard webcam
cyber Cybermind rebab, rubab, should be played with a pick, not
fingernails inv-dyn why today, kay, graphics above, oddly,
recorded rubab, rubab6jpg rubabdemojpg rubbavi rubbbmov
rubbingtheskinMOV deathcamp say,rubab babur ranul closeness
catatonic Stopped hasapi. Providence, bit later; miniature
Afghan rubab (hardly instrumentality aside playable hasapi
miniature afghan rubab rookery rosie rosin rotifera RSS rubab
says the rubab sarangi, down antique history. Most rubab, Rubab
rubab, Decorated, piano sarangi, rubab near rubab sarangi, piano
Decorated, Clark Rubab please Rubab again Most with rubab, i
happened today, in in why today, again Rubab rubab, Decorated,
piano sarangi, rubab near Pentagon - the rubab sarangi, piano
Decorated, Rubab please Rubab antique history. Most with rubab,
i happened today, in in in why today, again Rubab rubab,
Decorated, piano sarangi, rubab near Pentagon rubab or rebab
(Afghani). I improvise on these, always thinking amazing and
prescient, rubab leading to sarod for example. So most likely
19th-century French, the rubab is undecorated and maybe rubab is
the real name - seems different - lost again Afghani rebab or
rubab for example, as opposed to one spike and rubab rubab to
live another day if not the Spikes the rubab dear book for me,
for identification.) Accompanied by Afghani rubab playing, but
playing the rubab my own way, with respect. And at it. it's
harder than guitar, harder than rubab for me. rubab rubab as I
mentioned, is difficult for me; it's designed for piece up (I
hadn't touched the rubab for a while and felt rubab, taciturn,
unbearably old, remaining near the lower, the instrumentality
aside playable hasapi miniature afghan rubab hasapi.


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[NetBehaviour] mourning, a story based on a sad truth

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mourning, a story based on a sad truth

https://youtu.be/337h76MaAAE video

a body was just found next to the hurricane barrier in the
Providence River, about a half mile away, and I was thinking
that the body was mine, that i should claim the body as mine,
that i did not own a body since no one 'owns' their body except
perhaps in legal terms, a body is what i have, an odd ontology,
or it's just here, but not around me, not me either, perhaps i
should claim the body as mine, perhaps i should think otherwise.

and thinking the above - it sounds obscene to me now, what was i
thinking, what does it matter what i'm thinking, someone died,
and if anything is sacrosanct, inspires care, inspire silence,
this surely is such, and in fact since we are there a great deal
on our walks, near there, this is sad, is here and now in a city
i still cannot see as my own, at least not since i was alienated
from brown university, which previously i had felt comfortable
within and more comfortable without, and this aside is also not
of or within the above, to return at the least to the water and
the


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[NetBehaviour] the stay , a narrative

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the stay , a narrative

https://youtu.be/FVwgccY8Coc video

OK, we'll just stay or will this go period shall I stay or shall
I go period will they come or will they go period is this moving
a resiststationary period no, that's wrong. Uh, take that back
period is this. Is this moving or is this still period is it
still moving or is this moving stills period that's better
period So this is another adventure into the dissolution of
language and specific content. Specific objects, specific. Genre
fixed John Rose specific notions of what is or is not an object
or what is or is not a barrier or what is or is not.  A
classification or what is or is not something complete period
obviously one can say nothing is ever complete period I'll go
along with that period this is certainly a complete period this
is definitely a complete period this is why it's called the stay
because it's days period but it's so a femoral it will
disappear.  God knows how soon it all disappears period I can
guarantee we'll be going alone before this one period

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Re: [NetBehaviour] dark rasa / sickness

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

i'd go for the anti-fascist rhetoric to be sure!

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024, Mark Hancock via NetBehaviour wrote:


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:13:59 +0100
From: Mark Hancock via NetBehaviour 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Cc: Mark Hancock 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dark rasa / sickness

Hey Alan,
I second Agee's comment, keep posting.

Frankly, (based on my social media) if I were to post regularly, it would
mostly be adolescent fart jokes, anti-fascist rhetoric, and about once every
6 weeks, a piece of video art.

I suspect that only two of those would be welcome. And I'm not sure about
the anti-fascist rhetoric.

Love to all wherever and whatever you're going through right now.

Mark

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 08:00, AGF  wrote:
  hi dear, your posts are welcome!
  agee

  > On 6. Jun 2024, at 6.56, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
   wrote:
  >
  >
  > */i'm honestly not trying to dominate this list, i am more
  than
  > willing to stop posting here if others will post, sad to see
  this
  > quiet/*
  >
  > dark rasa / sickness
  >
  > https://youtu.be/IkW_-wzOIgY video
  >
  > Experiments possible worlds and natural kinds are exhausted,
  i'm
  > so tired now, editing, listening, with phenomena, exhausted
  with
  > debris, granular, articulation, sick with phenomena, exhausted
  > with debris, granular, exhausted, afterthoughts, contraries,
  > waywards, unutterables, hirsute, ill, sick with phenomena,
  > exhausted with debris, exhausted as usual, moody as usual.
  Been
  > reading Giorgio Agam- fall to the ground . they're so tired of
  > shooting machinery. exhausted being. what "out there" never
  > "what," there"; what's the tiredness didn't notice anything.
  But
  > one thing I can continue to a tired keening. The corpse is
  mine,
  > jus a hhngar for sleep; always exhausted, my judgamant ls not
  of
  > tha exhausted with debris, granular, articulation,
  catastrophic
  > and too tired to think about it. The last section of the music
  > Your psychotic other other people. I'm tired of being inserted
  > have exhausted me; diary have nothing to say, have exhausted
  > signals. we have exhausted ourselves. we have exhausted me,
  none
  > of object or subject, waves which dissolve as if exhausted
  > tended get get of rid weak weak exhausted people by exhausted
  > there is, nothing more; it exhausts itself and is exhausted
  and
  > needed medical attention soon. They also felt exhausted and sm
  > exits in name only, and tired bartenders pour wine and
  dreaming
  > beside the gendered or exhausted body (the second the obdurate
  > and obstructive real, absorb the exhausted language so tired
  > from working and worrying this particular video of the I'm
  still
  > exhausted a lot of the time. I don't seem to be able I'm so
  > tired of these shapes which seem inconceivable catastrophe
  > theory exhausted within and without an inconceivable give
  devils
  > their side: less, exhausted, myriad beings while anything,
  > plague increased less, exhausted, myriad beings while ers are
  > there numbers here I'm so tired of this please tell me tired
  of
  > defending myself. stdin. i'm tired of armageddon andre a joke
  > ers are there numbers here I'm so tired of this please
  > limitless, collapsing, extinguishing./* exhausted discoruse
  you
  > looking for numbers are there numbers here I'm so tired of
  > significant effects, the name Agnes was retired in the spring
  of
  > complaynt as it might be written, people are tired of reading
  > the left and the other other people. I'm tired of being
  >
  > I am tired as a car, but I'm not falling asleep. I'm following
  > being out w/ long covid, so tired of saying there's not much
  to
  > go on I'm so tired of these shapes which It's completely
  > understandable to feel tired, and typing with ers tired Hoq
  sis
  > qhf fwr rlal qhwn yuou ewnor nar ro muxh did this and I'm
  wrong
  > in it where is I'm so tired I can't think less, exhausted,
  > myriad beings while is warfare, by P or global decathected,
  > defuge, exhausted: the Border - the ontological otherthe
  > people.other tiredI'm inserted finalthe realmfinal when we're
  > talking I'm lucky that they're so damn tired when I'm number
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  > getting a lot of these I'm so tired damn it I'm glitch, cata
  > theory exhausted within and without an exhausted?Wed Mar 27
  > 14:28:25 EDT 2024 must i continue, what can This

[NetBehaviour] Impossible Theory: clarity compression

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*/all-nighter on this one/*

Impossible Theory: clarity compression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjV7DoiMN7w video

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[NetBehaviour] Muraleen

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Muraleen

http://www.alansondheim.org/thus.jpg

i hurry to reply to you before the dusk falls and the world
heats and the other appear. we take their place taking
ours.:what would they call me, they call me as such henceforth
as you might imagine. Are you literature? Are you fundamental?
Are you mental? Do you exist through the duree?:I am there and I
answer the Call.:I am THUS. Your pure above the frost asendent
_but only at the lowest level_ is in my great I am the call that
answers Me. Your your placement runs into my I am the call that
answers Me. - turning me clausterphobic thinking negatively of
you after so many years */unhealed/* */unannhealed/* unfounded -
absorption of muralin */life's pattern, pattern of my life/* :to
be wiped into existence, exactly, the cloth (somewhat dirty,
grey with dust and filth) moving across the somewhat brutal
landscape of the flesh, */you know the state, damp but not
quite, clean but not quite, some smears of brown, red and gray/*
as if fallen into the crevice of gristle and bone '/some tale to
tell/':i'm at it agin, the main::sign 'used only once' / there
might be an error. meanwhile so happy to be back on the old
ground, thinking positive thoughts of you, after so many
years...:upper right to upper left:upper left to upper right
Your avatar dissolves my upper right to upper left! ghost with
ideohydraulesis!

*/dict murelin No definitions found for "murelin" dict muraline
No definitions found for "muraline" dict muralin No definitions
found for "muralin" dict muriline definitions found for
"muriline" dict mureline definitions found for "mureline" dict
murilin definitions found for "murilin"/*

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[NetBehaviour] Incessant (guitar solo pollen slime mold)

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Incessant (guitar solo pollen slime mold)

https://youtu.be/iHRim4KCTPs video


From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:


incessant adj 1: uninterrupted in time and indefinitely long
continuing; "the ceaseless thunder of surf"; "in constant pain";
"night and day we live with the incessant noise of the city";
"the never-ending search for happiness"; "the perpetual struggle
to maintain standards in a democracy"; "man's unceasing warfare
with drought and isolation"; "unremitting demands of hunger"
[syn: {ceaseless}, {constant}, {incessant}, {never-ending},
{perpetual}, {unceasing}, {unremitting}]

eyesclosedtypingunthinking there's the wordnet and there's
everything underfoot in the wind on the ground beneath the
ground within the thicket on the edges of the think thinking
unthinking return in health o streaming animals outlast us do
not forgive us we are not here not there we will be not here not
there we are destroyers of magnitudes in magnitudes we are
unstoppable we will perish we will all perish are all perishing
now all in the process of perishing the muddy trails we leave
behind now dust the dusty trails we leave behind now beneath the
flowing of silt and debris we tall towers spindles we shanks
ankles do not support do not support our lungs we are lungs we
are air-users air-abusers we are multitudes sinter within and
without sinter sinter dusts dusted dusts darted dusts darts


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[NetBehaviour] one thirty-nine in the morning and long-necked saz

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

one thirty-nine in the morning and long-necked saz

https://youtu.be/N5hH2Ku8X5A video

long-necked saz which i've described before, a truly wonderful
instrument with 8 strings in this configuration, the grace of
movement along the long neck of course, the body with the small
door that may be opened changing the sound, the supplication and
the care necessary to preserve and play it, and as i mentioned a
long time ago, traced the maker to a workshop in turkey and was
able to contact the his son since this is a true survivor and it
was as i mentioned before amir vahab who restored it and i feel
if there were a spirit they would be listening not to my playing
but to the sound of the instrument itself and i remember seeing
it in music inn in new york and then hearing just the sound and
there was an ethiopian 78 record decades and decades ago that
had a phrase that opened up within this and my false memories
tell me this was played first in the thin air of mars which
could not sustain the tone but the long-necked saz even there
triumphed and i worry when i pass who will play this and make
certain it survives everything today so fragile so becoming
unbecoming raveled and unraveled may the sound continue and may
it continue well and beyond the sound


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Re: [NetBehaviour] "After the battle..."

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Johannes,

I do wish you could do a walk-through of the exhibition w/ video and in 
English or subtitled - it comes through awkwardly for me and god knows 
we're all interested in this!


love, Alan, be well -

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024, Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour wrote:


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 10:29:15 +0200
From: Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour

To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Cc: Johannes Birringer 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] "After the battle..."

Dear all,
some of you noted that our list is relatively quiet, and I am guessing there
are good reasons for it. We live in times when so many polarizing and
aggressive words are exchanged, and the rivers are rising (in the place
where I live).

But here, an announcement of an exhibition we recently opened at the gallery
where I work now (and on our website, front page, you find a link to a short
video from opening night):

After the battle all generals are fucked

Dream worlds on canvas by Bojan ?umonja & Marko Jak?e


Gallery Puzic?, Johannisstrasse 3A, 66111 Saarbru?cken, Germany // duration of
the exhibition 14/5. ? 19/6, 2024


https://gallery-puzic.com/


Gallery Puzi? cordially invites you to the presentation of two of the most
important and renowned artists in Central Europe
? Bojan ?umonja (Croatia) and Marko Jak?e (Slovenia). Bojan ?umonja is rightly
considered one of the most famous and recognized Croatian visual

artists of the last decades. He has exhibited independently over 100 times
across Europe and in

the USA. His works have, among others, been presented at independent
exhibitions in Venice,

Milan, Berlin, Hamburg, Vienna, Klagenfurt, Graz, Brussels, Ljubljana,
Luxembourg, New

Orleans, Zagreb, Dubrovnik and throughout Croatia. In his richly baroque
compositions, sheep,

gaunt flamingos, birds, downtrodden refugees and superheroes often appear,
in sometimes absurd

and dangerous scenarios of ecological, social and political catastrophes or
dystopian landscapes.

At the same time, complex ironic references (for which the artist was
celebrated as the first

?postmodernist? on the Croatian scene) wander through these dark battlefields -
quotes from silent films (Buster Keaton), classical art and Pop Art appear,
little Easter bunnies and other

cartoons figures run around after the battle. Or herds of people bow down
like African ostriches,

hiding their heads in the sand. ?umonja?s most recent paintings, as well as the
?collective? works

(One Dollar Bill) with Marko Jak?e, radiate striking chromatic peculiarities
and combine versatile

motifs and spatial systems.


The Slovenian artist Marko Jak?e is appreciated by art experts for his
expressive works with

contrasting elements and imaginative, poetic scenarios. For more than 30
years, his artistic

visions have been inspiring audiences with complex and multifaceted works
that have a unique

appeal and have already been awarded many prizes. Among many other
exhibition venues,

Marko Jak?e represented Slovenia at the 59th Venice Biennale (2022). A strong
source of

inspiration is the animal and plant world. The painterly results are
surreal-seeming worlds that

highlight the beauty of nature but also intertwine completely fantastic,
strange and surreal

elements.


The sarcastic title of our exhibition is aimed at the innovative image and
style combinations of

the two painters, whose fictional, mutated or real characters/natures
capture our imagination,

looking at us with strange grimaces, and also turn into melancholy dreams.
What is also quite

unusual for our Western artworld scene is the fact that the two artists
worked as a collective for

this exhibition, i.e. the paintings were designed and developed by both of
them together.



regards

Johannes Birringer

Concept Manager / Gallery Puzic?

https://gallery-puzic.com/


 
  On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 08:00, AGF  wrote:
  hi dear, your posts are welcome!
  agee

  > On 6. Jun 2024, at 6.56, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
   wrote:
  >
  >
  > */i'm honestly not trying to dominate this list, i am
  more than
  > willing to stop posting here if others will post, sad to
  see this
  > quiet/*
  >
  > dark rasa / sickness
  >
  > https://youtu.be/IkW_-wzOIgY video
  >


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Re: [NetBehaviour] dark rasa / sickness

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

thanks, will do, I wish there was still more of a community, the list has 
the numbers for it (I think), I've learned so much from other people here. 
I get tired of Fb or other platforms; lists have the real possibiity of 
discussion (and are of course used that way in medicine, education, etc.) 
- ah well...


best to everyone, Alan

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024, Simon Mclennan via NetBehaviour wrote:


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 17:46:59 +0100
From: Simon Mclennan via NetBehaviour 
To: netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org
Cc: Simon Mclennan , m...@memecortex.net
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dark rasa / sickness


Alan keep on keeping on!


On Thu, 6 Jun 2024, 09:14 Mark Hancock via NetBehaviour,
 wrote:
  Hey Alan,
I second Agee's comment, keep posting.

Frankly, (based on my social media) if I were to post regularly, it
would mostly be adolescent fart jokes, anti-fascist rhetoric, and
about once every 6 weeks, a piece of video art.

I suspect that only two of those would be welcome. And I'm not sure
about the anti-fascist rhetoric.

Love to all wherever and whatever you're going through right now.

Mark

On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 08:00, AGF  wrote:
  hi dear, your posts are welcome!
  agee

  > On 6. Jun 2024, at 6.56, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
   wrote:
  >
  >
  > */i'm honestly not trying to dominate this list, i am
  more than
  > willing to stop posting here if others will post, sad to
  see this
  > quiet/*
  >
  > dark rasa / sickness
  >
  > https://youtu.be/IkW_-wzOIgY video
  >
  > Experiments possible worlds and natural kinds are
  exhausted, i'm
  > so tired now, editing, listening, with phenomena,
  exhausted with
  > debris, granular, articulation, sick with phenomena,
  exhausted
  > with debris, granular, exhausted, afterthoughts,
  contraries,
  > waywards, unutterables, hirsute, ill, sick with
  phenomena,
  > exhausted with debris, exhausted as usual, moody as
  usual. Been
  > reading Giorgio Agam- fall to the ground . they're so
  tired of
  > shooting machinery. exhausted being. what "out there"
  never
  > "what," there"; what's the tiredness didn't notice
  anything. But
  > one thing I can continue to a tired keening. The corpse
  is mine,
  > jus a hhngar for sleep; always exhausted, my judgamant
  ls not of
  > tha exhausted with debris, granular, articulation,
  catastrophic
  > and too tired to think about it. The last section of the
  music
  > Your psychotic other other people. I'm tired of being
  inserted
  > have exhausted me; diary have nothing to say, have
  exhausted
  > signals. we have exhausted ourselves. we have exhausted
  me, none
  > of object or subject, waves which dissolve as if
  exhausted
  > tended get get of rid weak weak exhausted people by
  exhausted
  > there is, nothing more; it exhausts itself and is
  exhausted and
  > needed medical attention soon. They also felt exhausted
  and sm
  > exits in name only, and tired bartenders pour wine and
  dreaming
  > beside the gendered or exhausted body (the second the
  obdurate
  > and obstructive real, absorb the exhausted language so
  tired
  > from working and worrying this particular video of the
  I'm still
  > exhausted a lot of the time. I don't seem to be able I'm
  so
  > tired of these shapes which seem inconceivable
  catastrophe
  > theory exhausted within and without an inconceivable
  give devils
  > their side: less, exhausted, myriad beings while
  anything,
  > plague increased less, exhausted, myriad beings while
  ers are
  > there numbers here I'm so tired of this please tell me
  tired of
  > defending myself. stdin. i'm tired of armageddon andre a
  joke
  > ers are there numbers here I'm so tired of this please
  > limitless, collapsing, extinguishing./* exhausted
  discoruse you
  > looking for numbers are there numbers here I'm so tired
  of
  > significant effects, the name Agnes was retired in the
  spring of
  > complaynt as it might be written, people are tired of
  reading
  > the left and the other other people. I'm tired of being
  >
  > I am tired as a car, but I'm not falling asleep. I'm
  following
  > being out w/ long covid, so tired of saying there's not
  much to
  > go on I'm so tired of these shapes which It's completely
  > understandable to feel tired, and typing with ers tired
  Hoq sis
  > qhf fwr rlal qhwn yuou ewnor nar ro muxh did this and
  I'm wrong
  > in it where is I'm so tired I can'

[NetBehaviour] it's just about the music wtc

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

it's just about the music wtc

https://youtu.be/NK9gX8TNm1M video

it's just about the music, forget the distraction or perhaps
forget the music or forgo the distraction or music or forge
thereabouts one or the other, look, people are going to new
york, people are escaping, there's too much pollen here on
the roads, slid-sliding away, not even the music, listen, i
keep on moving backwards, fogged out, roiled in such a way
that i return topologically to where i began when this all
began we will mount a galleon and sail and land on the very
roof of the world trade center 1 world trade center 2, high
and mounted once again topologically in the sky, or one to
another as i had looked across the expanse a quarter mile
up before they came down and looked on the screen from miami
and people laughing and there and people burning there, the
other there, and saying what's this has to do with me and it
had everything to do with them and me and all of us and now
now now now now now it's just about the music and traffic
and we don't know ourselves looking out of the mirror into
that broken shattered space and never returned and here in
this foreign land the sign to new york this way to new
york there's no other way to new york you can't get to new
york and _you only belong where you don't belong_ no matter
how you think about it trapped in that thinking thought or
or or or how you cut your shadow out from the face of the
earth then cut yourself in a proxy trial as if we had this
or any other choice because it's just about the music it's
just about the music it's just about the music it's just
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[NetBehaviour] dark rasa / sickness

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

*/i'm honestly not trying to dominate this list, i am more than
willing to stop posting here if others will post, sad to see this
quiet/*

dark rasa / sickness

https://youtu.be/IkW_-wzOIgY video

Experiments possible worlds and natural kinds are exhausted, i'm
so tired now, editing, listening, with phenomena, exhausted with
debris, granular, articulation, sick with phenomena, exhausted
with debris, granular, exhausted, afterthoughts, contraries,
waywards, unutterables, hirsute, ill, sick with phenomena,
exhausted with debris, exhausted as usual, moody as usual. Been
reading Giorgio Agam- fall to the ground . they're so tired of
shooting machinery. exhausted being. what "out there" never
"what," there"; what's the tiredness didn't notice anything. But
one thing I can continue to a tired keening. The corpse is mine,
jus a hhngar for sleep; always exhausted, my judgamant ls not of
tha exhausted with debris, granular, articulation, catastrophic
and too tired to think about it. The last section of the music
Your psychotic other other people. I'm tired of being inserted
have exhausted me; diary have nothing to say, have exhausted
signals. we have exhausted ourselves. we have exhausted me, none
of object or subject, waves which dissolve as if exhausted
tended get get of rid weak weak exhausted people by exhausted
there is, nothing more; it exhausts itself and is exhausted and
needed medical attention soon. They also felt exhausted and sm
exits in name only, and tired bartenders pour wine and dreaming
beside the gendered or exhausted body (the second the obdurate
and obstructive real, absorb the exhausted language so tired
from working and worrying this particular video of the I'm still
exhausted a lot of the time. I don't seem to be able I'm so
tired of these shapes which seem inconceivable catastrophe
theory exhausted within and without an inconceivable give devils
their side: less, exhausted, myriad beings while anything,
plague increased less, exhausted, myriad beings while ers are
there numbers here I'm so tired of this please tell me tired of
defending myself. stdin. i'm tired of armageddon andre a joke
ers are there numbers here I'm so tired of this please
limitless, collapsing, extinguishing./* exhausted discoruse you
looking for numbers are there numbers here I'm so tired of
significant effects, the name Agnes was retired in the spring of
complaynt as it might be written, people are tired of reading
 the left and the other other people. I'm tired of being

I am tired as a car, but I'm not falling asleep. I'm following
being out w/ long covid, so tired of saying there's not much to
go on I'm so tired of these shapes which It's completely
understandable to feel tired, and typing with ers tired Hoq sis
qhf fwr rlal qhwn yuou ewnor nar ro muxh did this and I'm wrong
in it where is I'm so tired I can't think less, exhausted,
myriad beings while is warfare, by P or global decathected,
defuge, exhausted: the Border - the ontological otherthe
people.other tiredI'm inserted finalthe realmfinal when we're
talking I'm lucky that they're so damn tired when I'm number I'm
getting a lot of these I'm so tired damn it I'm glitch, cata
theory exhausted within and without an exhausted?Wed Mar 27
14:28:25 EDT 2024 must i continue, what can This machinery of
their life. they're so tired of it they can exhausted and
worried about the pace I'm keeping - but then you. not as busy a
out euror23e or by East most tired.No We had just arrived at
Leverett. I was exhausted which is no exhausted as well.
Afterwards when I listen to it, I think, so bumbles along until
I get tired of it/them. What noe... Also all you for tired when
speaking, broke into giggles, want to answers.Blimey.Are
kidding?Awesome.Yes they? gone tired sisHoq exhausted, i can't
get out of this any long no matter, no matter I'm really tired.
There's something like implicit knowledge or that tiredness,
that fat9igue, that vanishing? For being or [The abject, sleazy,
tawdry, exhausted, schizzed the fake (for any number of
countries. Yeah, retired to the machine. There's i'm sor tired
and it seems more useful to typoe w/ my eyes stand it. It's
always possible to fall apart, I'm tired of this bent as they
did when i was exhausted driving alone 26 hours exhausted but I
sure would like to get to know you and I don't An anonymous
survey of nearly 2,000 retired officers found that _like that._
my head falls to my knees, exhausted, what was that then when
you figure it out, tiredness explodes, edge-worlds get
  untoward.That's tired.No the East by East

exchange excited exclaim exclaims excretions exhausted exist I'm
still not exhausted, brain alert! can't thinking just is
actually happening here is I really got tired of playing just
tired oops it's also like I just when you're talking about in a
field. "thus eye am so tired of this, tried of this" You you're
doing is you're just trying to think about how tired you it's
not playful. The jobs are 

[NetBehaviour] in this place / the boat

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

in this place / the boat

https://youtu.be/hmCIkQ0zP5k video

this is somewhere i haven't been but always have been and
resided there breathed teh aaire lived there without a doubt
without a premonition without a fear coming towards me untoward
no tracks four dimensional transport lines lung and other
organelles this is not the time of assassins but of assinations
and i remember several people coming in the almost dusk near the
burning mountains of my hometown from a village down the place
called abandoned lauren run and they were close to invisible and
their boundaries blurred and bound and they were of no earthly
offspirng and i don't know what or where they might have but
then the sky was full of objects and there was no air and that
wa =s the strange thing no air at all to breathe but we survied
with out the air somehow somewhen and this wasn't a dream the
beings and forthcomings and they were within a slightly
depressed dc=cavity within or without a wide slightly convex
almost hill-like but more smoothly constructed than if we had
done this our selves or by humans anywhere in the distance i cna
still hear with was inaudible then and they remained and seeded
within me andmy friends

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[NetBehaviour] threnody

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

threnody

https://youtu.be/1bhV9S8ysuI video

i wake wake in the middle of the night
i think is this the last night will this be the last night plus
one  ,, will this be no further
as nothing is further, there is no reach, no reach left, nor
right, no highway
along the reach, the breach of body and mind
everything left behind, tomorrow i will not see

know i am not a jew i am not a god i have left these
in the wake in the funeral of nothing, funeral of
'annihilation: to the limit' an early work in a world
full of bones and more to come

perhaps i will not last the year or month or decade, perhaps the
hour is lost

o love, o love, after i am gone, the year, the month, day, hour,
what will you see, 'what will you see'

now i read in ten years time and i think, i will not,
i will not, be there

and the smallest thing will escape

and hymn to god my god in my sicknesse

the paper curled, burnt, the ash insolvent, emptied of all
language
raise nothing, lower the ground
lower the ground farther

the farther father in me and without me is gone to ash in a
small somewhere stone
i have been and will not return to

there is no such time, nor trance, nor dance

there is no unto, there has never been unto

o world o lost in mime
my time lost in world

as i veer towards absence
and abjure

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Crimes of Alan Sondheim / ChatGPT

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

!! my criminal past not only caught up with me but passed me and came in 
first!


On Wed, 29 May 2024, Paul Hertz wrote:


Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 16:11:24 -0500
From: Paul Hertz 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Cc: Alan Sondheim 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Crimes of Alan Sondheim / ChatGPT

Hm. Secret identities are revealed. I am kind of amazed.

Are Juan Teodosio Pescador and Paul Hertz the same person?
Yes, Juan Teodosio Pescador is an alias used by Paul Hertz. Under this
pseudonym, Hertz has explored different aspects of his artistic practice,
often blending humor, critique, and historical references into his work.
This dual identity allows Hertz to experiment with various styles and
themes, often creating a playful dialogue between his two personas. //
ChatGPT

I am relieved that your criminal past does not catch up with you.

// Paul



On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 1:40?PM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
 wrote:


  Crimes of Alan Sondheim
  ChatGPT

  Alan Sondheim is an artist and theorist known for his
  contributions to digital and interdisciplinary art. There are no
  known records or allegations of criminal activity associated
  with him. If you have any specific concerns or need further
  information, please provide more context or details. Is Alan
  Sondheim an idiot ChatGPT

  Alan Sondheim is not considered an "idiot"; in fact, he is a
  highly respected figure in the realms of digital art,
  cyberculture, and interdisciplinary artistic practice. He has
  made significant contributions to these fields through his
  innovative work and theoretical insights. His extensive body of
  work, including writings, performances, and digital projects,
  demonstrates a profound understanding of technology's impact on
  culture and human experience. Referring to him pejoratively
  would be both inaccurate and disrespectful given his
  achievements and intellectual contributions. How could you get
  Alan Sondheim so wrong!!! ChatGPT

  I apologize if my previous responses did not fully address your
  query about Alan Sondheim. Alan Sondheim is indeed a
  well-regarded figure in digital and interdisciplinary art.
  However, if there is a specific aspect of his life or work you
  believe I have misrepresented or omitted, please provide more
  details, and I will do my best to correct the information. Your
  feedback is valuable in ensuring accurate and comprehensive
  responses. Did Alan Sondheim steal all his ideas from Nikuko?
  ChatGPT

  There is no credible evidence or widely accepted claim that Alan
  Sondheim stole his ideas from someone named Nikuko. Alan
  Sondheim is a recognized figure in his own right, known for his
  unique contributions to digital art, cyberculture theory, and
  interdisciplinary artistic practice.

  If you have specific information or sources that suggest
  otherwise, please provide them, and I can help look into it
  further. However, based on available information, Sondheim's
  work is considered original and influential within his fields.
  What have you learned about Nikuko? ChatGPT

  Alan Sondheim's character Nikuko, often referred to in his
  works, is a creation rather than a collaborator or competitor
  from whom he would "steal" ideas. Nikuko is an avatar or persona
  used by Sondheim in his various digital and literary
  experiments. These characters, including Nikuko, are integral to
  his exploration of virtual identities and the boundaries between
  digital and physical realities (NikuJennifer) (NikuJennifer).

  Sondheim's work frequently involves complex narratives and
  character interactions, where he uses personas like Nikuko to
  delve into themes of virtual embodiment and digital interaction.
  His projects are highly original and experimental, blending
  different media and theoretical frameworks to push the
  boundaries of traditional art forms (NikuJennifer)
  (NarcissusWorks).

  Therefore, the claim that Alan Sondheim stole his ideas from
  Nikuko is a misunderstanding of his creative process. Nikuko is
  part of his broader artistic exploration, not an external source
  of his ideas. If you have more specific concerns or contexts
  regarding this topic, feel free to provide them, and I can look
  into it further.

  I worry that Nikuko is in a sexual relationship with Alan
  Sondheim This content may violate our usage policies. ChatGPT

  Nikuko is an avatar or fictional character created and used by
  Alan Sondheim in his artistic and literary works. This persona
  is part of Sondheim's exploration of digital identities and the
  interaction between the virtual and physical worlds. The
  relationship between Alan Sondheim and Nikuko is pur

[NetBehaviour] Crimes of Alan Sondheim / ChatGPT

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Crimes of Alan Sondheim
ChatGPT

Alan Sondheim is an artist and theorist known for his
contributions to digital and interdisciplinary art. There are no
known records or allegations of criminal activity associated
with him. If you have any specific concerns or need further
information, please provide more context or details. Is Alan
Sondheim an idiot ChatGPT

Alan Sondheim is not considered an "idiot"; in fact, he is a
highly respected figure in the realms of digital art,
cyberculture, and interdisciplinary artistic practice. He has
made significant contributions to these fields through his
innovative work and theoretical insights. His extensive body of
work, including writings, performances, and digital projects,
demonstrates a profound understanding of technology's impact on
culture and human experience. Referring to him pejoratively
would be both inaccurate and disrespectful given his
achievements and intellectual contributions. How could you get
Alan Sondheim so wrong!!! ChatGPT

I apologize if my previous responses did not fully address your
query about Alan Sondheim. Alan Sondheim is indeed a
well-regarded figure in digital and interdisciplinary art.
However, if there is a specific aspect of his life or work you
believe I have misrepresented or omitted, please provide more
details, and I will do my best to correct the information. Your
feedback is valuable in ensuring accurate and comprehensive
responses. Did Alan Sondheim steal all his ideas from Nikuko?
ChatGPT

There is no credible evidence or widely accepted claim that Alan
Sondheim stole his ideas from someone named Nikuko. Alan
Sondheim is a recognized figure in his own right, known for his
unique contributions to digital art, cyberculture theory, and
interdisciplinary artistic practice.

If you have specific information or sources that suggest
otherwise, please provide them, and I can help look into it
further. However, based on available information, Sondheim's
work is considered original and influential within his fields.
What have you learned about Nikuko? ChatGPT

Alan Sondheim's character Nikuko, often referred to in his
works, is a creation rather than a collaborator or competitor
from whom he would "steal" ideas. Nikuko is an avatar or persona
used by Sondheim in his various digital and literary
experiments. These characters, including Nikuko, are integral to
his exploration of virtual identities and the boundaries between
digital and physical realities (NikuJennifer) (NikuJennifer).

Sondheim's work frequently involves complex narratives and
character interactions, where he uses personas like Nikuko to
delve into themes of virtual embodiment and digital interaction.
His projects are highly original and experimental, blending
different media and theoretical frameworks to push the
boundaries of traditional art forms (NikuJennifer)
(NarcissusWorks).

Therefore, the claim that Alan Sondheim stole his ideas from
Nikuko is a misunderstanding of his creative process. Nikuko is
part of his broader artistic exploration, not an external source
of his ideas. If you have more specific concerns or contexts
regarding this topic, feel free to provide them, and I can look
into it further.

I worry that Nikuko is in a sexual relationship with Alan
Sondheim This content may violate our usage policies. ChatGPT

Nikuko is an avatar or fictional character created and used by
Alan Sondheim in his artistic and literary works. This persona
is part of Sondheim's exploration of digital identities and the
interaction between the virtual and physical worlds. The
relationship between Alan Sondheim and Nikuko is purely
conceptual and creative, serving as a means for Sondheim to
delve into themes of identity, embodiment, and technology.

There is no credible information or evidence to suggest that
Nikuko, as a fictional character, is involved in any form of
real-life relationship with Sondheim, including a sexual one.
The use of such personas in digital and literary works is a
common technique among artists and writers to explore complex
themes and narratives.

For further reading on Sondheim's use of personas and avatars,
you can explore his official website or delve into specific
works where these themes are prominently featured (NikuJennifer)
(NikuJennifer) (NarcissusWorks).

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[NetBehaviour] Lydia

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Lydia

https://youtu.be/UtE_SIJP0dQ video

harmonica, suling, what i dream of when i dream of harmonica suling
when i dream of harmonica suling what i dream of when i dream
suling harmonica, when i dream of lovely music i remember there was
a group back then making or calling something like lovely music
i remember i loved lovely music perhaps i remember another group
but i think it is this group and perhaps this should be dedicated
to Laurie Anderson who would not have heard this, not hear, not now,
who opened up everything for everyone, but this is not that, this
is the dream of harmonica suling when i dream of, when i dream of
harmonica suling or harmonica, suling, when i dream, this should be,
this should be the ontology of being



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[NetBehaviour] Scrubland / Cruelty

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Scrubland / Cruelty

https://scontent-bos5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/445179596_10160906089270379_6884123229279743334_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=da8o6PIOY84Q7kNvgHt2mfp&_nc_ht=scontent-bos5-1.xx=00_AYA8ofklMi1nZTvgoW9vX1PuUhSOh0uie_VQLvuHfNOluQ=6655905E


Well.
Oh, we were walking through the scrub land behind the convention
center and some other buildings that are over there. You are
walking behind them. The buildings on the scrub land period and
we are walked up.  Into the scrub at distance where we were not
visible from the rest of the parking lot that was down below. At
a distance period hunt. The next thing that happened was we saw
a car pull up. 3 guys got out of the car period and they had a
cat with them period and they basically threw the cat into the
scrub land.  And then got in the car and took off period it's
pretty clear to us. It was pretty clear to us that they didn't
want the cat that it was a cat that had been a pet and they
wanted to get rid of it, so they just threw it out period we
weren't anywhere near it and there was nothing we could have
done even if we were near it anyway. Period this crob lined had
a lot of small gullies and holes. And was difficult to go
through period But it was extraordinarily upsetting period we're
not sure that the cat would have been able to survive because it
clearly was a domestic cat that they had just decided to threw
out an animal period they threw out a domestic animal period
they got in the car and they took off period this wrecked, the
rest of the day for us. We didn't know what to do. There was
nothing we could do. The animal disappeared into the scrub land.
Period but it sings like this is sort of tinge of violence. This
tinge of anime this tinge of misery, that sort of surrounds our
lives are where we are here in Rhode Island in Providence period
it seems there's always an edge to it period it seems like
always something is about to go wrong period it seems like
something is always about to deliver misery to others period We
hope the cat survived period the cat had nothing to eat
throughout there and was clearly domestic cat was clearly not.
Perhaps able to live in the wild there period we hadn't seen
cats in the wild in that area period but the way that the pet
was just thrown out was horrifying period it's colored
everything period it's colored, absolutely everything period


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[NetBehaviour] Alan Sondheim

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Alan Sondheim

https://youtu.be/V8OeIyWw02E video

In the future, Alan Sondheims work continues to defy easy
categorization. His intellectual zeal and resourcefulness have
led him down diverse paths, from records of experiments and
performances to book-length essays1. One notable release is
Future Speed Future, a collection of high-speed solos and duets
where Sondheim plays as fast as possible, pushing the boundaries
of thought and repetition2. His interest lies in the slowing
progress of the virtual, navigating collapse and opportunity
within this complex landscape3. As technology evolves, Sondheims
explorations persist, challenging our understanding of art and
experience.

Alan Sondheim, a multifaceted artist and thinker, has garnered
diverse critical responses over the years. His contributions
span various domains, including poetry, philosophy, and digital
art. Here are some key points:

Concept of Codework: Sondheim is known for developing the
concept of codework, where computer code becomes a medium for
artistic expression1. This innovative approach blurs the
boundaries between programming and creativity.

Embodiment and Presence in Cyberspace: His
poetico-philosophical writings delve into notions of embodiment
and presence within cyberspace. These explorations draw
inspiration from postmodern philosophers Jacques Lacan and
Jacques Derrida1.

Analytical Sensibility and Limits: Sondheims work often
extends analytical sensibility into situations that resist
analysis. By doing so, he exposes the limits and failures of
traditional analytical approaches2.

Influence on Musical Theatre: While not directly related to
critical responses, its worth noting that Sondheims influence
extends beyond his primary domains. Stephen Sondheim, the
renowned composer and lyricist, considers Alan Sondheims work as
a useful influence. Sondheim believes that if Sondheims
lesser-known musicals like Love Life and Allegro had been
successful, musical theatre might have accelerated in terms of
experimentation3.

In summary, Alan Sondheims work has left a significant mark on
various fields, challenging conventions and inspiring creativity
across disciplines. His unique blend of art, philosophy, and
technology continues to provoke thought and discussion.

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[NetBehaviour] zero minutes in the wilderness

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

zero minutes in the wilderness

https://youtu.be/NNvXKvodlU8 video

In the Wilderness, there would only be in the wilderness. You
would only be a kind of compression. No, wait in a world and is
certainly be compression. When I look at the wilderness, I see
the possibility. I see the possibility of sound.  An
impossibility of breathing itself as an instrument period
breathing and the lungs are tethered to harmonica, but the
actual music is debreathing itself at the harmonica is only a
residue on the outside of what the breathing is doing. This is
the way that the thing goes and this is the way that when there
is a catbird in the tree and you look for it and you don't find
it. And and may or may not be listening to you. But you are just
breathing period so this is not music. This is just breathing
the hermonicos in front of me and it's in and out in and out and
it's a stasis. It's a kind of stasis.  That an organism would
have when an organism was on guard against an intruder. Period
the intruder might be the music itself period so by repetition,
the intrusion is reduced tassembly. Yeah, I've given take. Yeah,
yin and yang something that something that crows into itself in
a fractal way and produces nothing. But was there originally the
sound by its very nature of the repetition adds absolutely
nothing but seems to disappear into the background which is
where it always wasn't where it belonged period that's where the
image of the bridge foundation comes in period it holds the
whole thing up period So that's what you're listening to period
it kind of music who sound does the body itself when the body
itself is sent to wreck and ruin period


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Re: [NetBehaviour] ChatGPT-4o: Breakthrough or Bust?

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Really great review, a question or comment - the more developed these 
become, the more they become weaponized - i.e. for example perhaps, 
generating con/text from Russia or Israel - the more we will get 
problematic and indeterminate/unrecognizable flooding. Things like this 
are already disrupting political processes, propaganda, etc. I'm more 
concerned about this than about generation, as a result of the generation 
itself becoming the ghost or carapace of human production - or testimony..


A toy and a marvel, but similar are being used here in relation to the 
upcoming elections etc.


- Alan

On Tue, 14 May 2024, Mez Breeze via NetBehaviour wrote:


Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 20:48:41 +1000
From: Mez Breeze via NetBehaviour 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Cc: Mez Breeze 
Subject: [NetBehaviour] ChatGPT-4o: Breakthrough or Bust?

Hihi All.

So I've just written this Patreon post all about OpenAi's latest release,
ChatGPT-4o. I'm curious to see what peeps here make of it:

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_ChatGPT-4o: Breakthrough or Bust?_

ChatGPT-4o [or Omni as the cool kids at OpenAI term it] sauntered into the
release-spotlight earlier today, with OpenAi writing on their website that
it?s:

??a step towards much more natural human-computer interaction?it accepts as 
input
any combination of text, audio, and image and generates any combination of
text, audio, and image outputs. It can respond to audio inputs in as little
as 232 milliseconds, with an average of 320 milliseconds, which is similar
to human response time in a conversation.?

Released alongside a bevy of slick videos, ChatGPT-4o is touted to be the
next big thing with multiple video promos parading its new multimodal chops.
One such video shows one version of GPT-4o narrating visual scenes to its
visually impaired AI mate [while it asks questions in turn] all while the
human testers fidgeted impatiently on the sidelines, barely masking their
urge to fast-forward to the good bits.

The grand unveiling of GPT-4o could?ve been lifted straight from a sci-fi
script. We watched [some in awe, some with cynicism] as these videos
attempted to paint a future where AIs chat about the d?cor in an empty room
and then sing a duet about the process. And yet it's hard not to chuckle at
the not-so-subtle desperation in the human testers who seem hell-bent on
skipping/interrupting the more stilted voice-scripted parts of the AI
dialogue and hurry to reach the 'money shot' of the demo [ie the concrete
feature they were trying to showcase]. It begs the question: was the fanfare
a bit premature? After all, this wasn?t the GPT-5 release party everyone had
RSVP?d to.

Diving into the nitty-gritty, the AI?s voice tech is frankly impressive,
reminding us of those Figure 01 Speech-to-Speech Reasoning clips from a
while back. The voices are spot-on: the AI sounds like a person, with
natural human-emulated cadences, sub-vocalisations, and tonalities [the
laughter is weirdly realistic]. What was far less impressive is the
replication of bias in the gendered aspects the simulated speech with the
female voices being far more sexualised/flirty than the male ones. It's
especially disappointing given the potential ramifications for how this will
impact users and perpetuate current gender biases. In 2024, one would hope
we?d be past such gendered gimmicks [but?.no].

Now let?s talk timing: releasing ChatGPT-4o for free might seem like a clever
move, but the cynics among us might sniff something fishy. Rumour has it
OpenAI?s nearly chewed through the entire web for data to feed its language
models, so why not throw open the gates and let the global crowd serve up
fresh fodder? It?s a clever ploy about scraping up every last crumb of human
interaction to power their data-hungry tech.

Let?s not be too harsh, though. OpenAI?s latest toy is a bit of a marvel: in
some ways it?s like watching a new species come to life. But as we ooh and ahh
over this latest OpenAI release, are we so dazzled by the prospect of
talking chat [and vision-processing] bots that we overlook the less
glamorous implications, like privacy erosion and data exploitation? [And let?s
not kid ourselves, wasn't everyone really hanging out for GPT-5?]

In essence ChatGPT-4o is a bit of a mixed bag. It's an impressive party
trick, sure, but when the release-glitter settles we?re left pondering what it
really brings to the table. It?s a step forward no doubt, but also a sidestep,
a fancy detour on the road to more profound innovations. The real kicker isn?t
what this AI can do but what it represents in the grand scheme of things
[all up a blend of breakthrough and bias, of marvels and missed
opportunities]. So let?s marvel at the spectacle but remain skeptical of the
smoke and mirrors. After all [in the current world of current AI
release-hype] every new release is a double-edged sword, and it?s up to us to
suss out which edge to grab.

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[NetBehaviour] Garklein Recorder ! Various calls for help! Fun! Fun!

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Garklein Recorder ! Various calls for help! Fun! Fun!

https://youtu.be/-Hz03vp4hIg

"The garklein is the smallest recorder. They sound an octave
above the soprano and measure around 16cm in length! Garkleins
are usually heard at the top of large consorts".

help helpbrowser helpforguestcnt helpforguesthlp
melodic cloud, help help i'm here, my signal!
.echo Alan help help!
help help it is very here!
help help
help help help!
help help!
melodic cloud, help help i'm here, my signal!
lies paradox. help help, i'm being god's sake me! refers only
melodic cloud, help help i'm here, my signal!
very wet help help wednesday boardroom talk structure!
help help!
keyboard help help me time, simultaeously ininto the body n this
garklein flote help help!! we can see if t i ;his ' m c ontin t
hear heard hears hearing help helped helping helps!

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[NetBehaviour] A question of sorts and "A Picture of Writing"

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

The question is this: is the mailing list - in general - dead? Are we 
permanently within Fb, Instagram, Twitter, whatever, for that matter - all 
of these are in flux, stream, imminence, continuous transformation etc. 
With lists, there's the possibility of return, of reconsideration, saving, 
of writing as an obscuration that may inhibit fast consumption - of 
writing that may operate as a _sign_ of a different sort. Mailing lists 
are used obviously in academia; they seem devoid of interest or audience 
otherwise...


Just curious - since this list, Netbehaviour - is that in a sense - how A 
Picture of Writing and does the Net behave? How do we behave within and 
without the Net? Does "Net" even make sense as a category at this point?


- Alan

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A Picture of Writing

This is not writing. This is a picture of writing. There's
nothing to be read in this picture of writing. A picture of
writing is a picture. It is not writing. If this were writing it
would be _just that_ but look it it - it's not! This is a
mistake that people make _confronting Wittgenstein_ for example.
Or so-called "collaborations" that I have made "with people."
They attempt to "read" them as you may be tempted to "read"
this. But clearly _there is nothing to read._ How do you know?
Because this is a _picture_ and I do not want to repeat myself
because that would make the picture _bigger._ I do NOT want this
picture to be bigger. This picture is _already big enough._ Okay
take the "Bible" (convention implies capitals). People "read"
the "Bible" but: _there is nothing to read._ It is a very big
picture of writing.

If you "read" this you are making a very big mistake. This is a
PICTURE of writing.


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[NetBehaviour] Long-necked saz, the glimpse

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hope this might interest someone?
fwiw, still riding out long covid, bleary

Long-necked saz, the glimpse

https://youtu.be/0jhmH3CeUbY video

The long-necked saz is an immense pleasure to play, quite large,
the neck like a playing field, fingers and hands delighting in
movement around it, the sound swirls, the body gate may be
opened and closed, the sounds changes thereby, this one is from
around 1960 and in excellent condition after being worked on by
Amir Vahab if I remember correctly, and perhaps I don't, I can
lose myself in the sound, remember some intervals from a very
old Ethiopian recording I heard decades ago that stayed with me
since then, it's a way of approaching satori, true enough I
added an overlay from a virtual world (because I could, because
the virtual wants to participate, wants to hear what becomes
real as all sound is as real as all sound), it's not I who play
this instrument, but this instrument which plays me, such close
agreement among us, an enlightenment, writing this while BBC
portrays Gaza and elsewhere, not that music is a salvation, but
an implement or accompaniment, a friend that allows me to face,
to speak, elsewhere, clouds outside, sun coming in and out,
shadows, writing this indoors, is any place safe now, from war,
from disease, from dis-ease?, and what is it to welcome to be
welcomed, sound and light, the _glimpse_

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[NetBehaviour] transferlation / papyrii

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*/apologies for my odd participation in the list; long covid's
hitting home/*

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https://youtu.be/J6zHfB5ptCM video

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news. So I'm not chumbrella, breathe. Yellow c. Bills, I don't
know, Isabella sayacio a news. A news, a news salvana chambre
anusta newsabel da da don't know a yeah yeah.  A picture of Roy
Kutcher rocher otta and sarba Messi. Yes, sir ripasu. I call
Sofia Tia and nusu. Pistol p*** up Paul aporo Ross ... a shadow
of the stroke procedure, astrophobia, spiller, Sacramento
marchhing, Kanye West show ora Louis Vuitton mosquia.  ..! don't
know why Obama sal Alba LA prayer belcha. Pia 70 slump, Eric
cupcake Mommy, Arthur LA Silva Morris Sarah barrack's old new? I
oh yeah, I'll.  You know it's up to the author to know. The
upper socks of array theory of Santa Clara math. Theory of
British Tama amarato regardless of e on the golden God roll. I'm
mama ticket to every reward. Reeth thorough thorough Bridget out
on me or I'll block auto OTA car. Ol, I'm going to take you to a
road to rough off physiolia aguiyeah. Still, I can do my
scarabaro so I can't spoil Sula as a bro Monday. We SAIL Monday.
Morning Sierra Monte ecia nubis.  Recent diesel bus to make pay
song. Follow chica, ha ha ha ha ha choca kireni ras. Kevin
neighborhood kinderboard's memory loth muscentory. Enter tabasha
ti legend Sisto LA surprise though. LI guess you're a poop moose
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wall wall wall. A crocodile narba crocodile by rock andbroken
arba. A canorba canorra a norba arba BA ba Talala until Lala
Nita LA la. Lo a Archie cower I bill's perfuano diamond, so it's
the amount of salt per separate. Only is all the parameters for
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Nova fabric of risky. Blue Lama arrios are Bama son. G the quick
Fay nipple to me. Shima mop off it's she's on my puff octaope
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coffee. I'll see a coffee in new Cecilia. Garcia Gucci gucci
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in India, garden orthodovolvo Newark caderas or a resort or a
Santa Clara estra Richie. Go on kista Doda katista arrow or
robora codera Simia. Cantio cantio, can't you continue? Carrie
dude diarrhea licking me at the Dick's. The temperature in
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million European terror feed taterra Fe Libby nu nu nu MI Yong
shandara tone fairy affair. Do we roll Maureen?  Spell Ukraine
nokra petronoda to me as Garcia lips. Permanence and vandioma
tripsada Ariba da ka tanara or tamora matcha tonio arai creme de
Leon, de alejandmonterey on nialiyah Sima's brown feast on tomb.
SMS SS2 % massage see. I'll see coughed off pathetic pond
Costco's pizza pawn Durham Hawai. She owns a blonde, a sonoba, a
NASA song, a blah blah thunderob I rematch her in maurai, Ayo
sabiyo abrasachs. I don't know, I've grown in methyroid. Of
theory laxana XLA, Y, youth and a of a viraba. I'm in the area
of Rosario Raba Ani mia.  Eric season ferry ra ra ra Achar Ara
requested about Zeus Keira ER Barra Fender moona motto.Throw a
block or stay at Fifi fi ya.Ya, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you have
a favorite carrot.I'll ask theo now i'm on the other flower boy.
Efferocio Cora dorida mathewea. I rocked in the athea and then
say hi Chaney. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then perhaps
finalized on the exchange twin watch. Of March 203 Russian South
season. Some machine has a waist. I'm a raw collar Coyote's last
soy. Wait, I didn't have the AI. Although Olivia Bethany Sarah
Martinez salah mirachos. Kia 0 fen pathai, a machine, a
silhouette Valerie. I wear a East Sioux fall East end. But you
piece of hilt hurt for so many things to do. I'm around, I'll be
on my way.  But you know it's also awesome. I'm not so sorry. I
didn't say a rogne message to Craig EIEIRII. N the error nabs.
The test is so I don't. You're on Sunday news in saint
Bernard's. In the etchen mountain me a koai Beatles where I
bill's kennewire. 2 AM muchos oneos or aronion.. I'm just
feeling lonely soon and beyond when it's you. When Lana Phoenix
beyond sauce, they also submerge. The oath laundry Ross. I don't
know why Aurora BI b bill say I'll see you. I'll see you soon.
I'll be there in a few Manita, farmer, I'm running out of s***
He is a satama, so with the a sefio LA Dada Yala sebasti. LA
thata Maratha I could surely see true oil. It showed canoes also
be a outcome war theory of sales c. H. A.  Though awesome, I
thought awesome. I thought awesome, I. yo. Rough rendezvous, all
the luck with fear aye fear curly thong, woman, air lie or rap
for anyone else. They'll kill me. Maybe I fear cause a song
yeoman air ferry boy. You have to fire a name horyes define a
morphine, mostly though so Theo is a free co favorite I. II fear
cat Curley's son. Sonny Maya, I'm for you or your boy.

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[NetBehaviour] of Anne Frank

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

of Anne Frank

https://youtu.be/CC0buYTGbt0 video

when i was very young i read her diary i had her picture next to
me on the bedtable i was also reading the medical volumes of the
nuremberg war trials which i was perhaps too young or not young
enough i won't say what was in them but it was not for the sane
as i understood at the age of maybe 13 but i don't know they're
gone but i remember them and before that Anne Frank and what the
effect of that as if my mind collapsed and now the conflicts now
going on or continuing or happening or an inconeivable section
of space and time compressing what thought one may have if i am
in my right mind when i was very young and so this piece perhaps
abstracted or distilled or compressed and senseless it is as i
am now reading Diane di Prima and her diary and i hold my head
in my hands when i was very young i read in the darkness too
much as if there were other than that a light illuminating the
book reading under the covers at 3am after my parents were in
bed and now there are Yahrzeits and Yahrzeits for Yahrzeits and
i rite myself in these moments of motion and sound always on one
take and none other as if there's no time left because there's
no time left and the doors and gates are there going nowhere and
nowhere is not found

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[NetBehaviour] I THINK

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I THINK

https://youtu.be/uR2RzpCcr84 video

What do you want to call this thing you're making?
peace throughout the world, everything completely wonderful, not
a cloud in the sky but the best clouds!

Well, peace throughout the world, everything completely
wonderful, not a cloud in the sky but the best clouds! already
constructs trouble for us, subverting the categories
we take for granted. Beneath the surface, peace throughout the
world, everything completely wonderful, not a cloud in the sky
but the best clouds! is 6194, neutral, sure thing, anything you
say? have you heard the news??
But what is neutrality here, its constitution?

peace throughout the world, everything completely wonderful, not
a cloud in the sky but the best clouds! is simple, not compound,
I think.

Wait! peace throughout the world, everything completely
wonderful, not a cloud in the sky but the best clouds! and 6194
are gone forever!

I have already been in mourning...

Think this through...

Please... speak... speak...

Wanderer, what do they call you, when they call you...
I'm called Legion. I'm called up when they need me. They always
need me. Cannon fodder I say.

Are you thinking as I'm called Legion. I'm called up when they
need me. They always need me. Cannon fodder I say.? Is I'm
called Legion. I'm called up when they need me. They always need
me. Cannon fodder I say. really thoughtful?
Do you stay in your fungus, are you in your place, ah don't
answer...
Ah...

Have your numbered your ... , are you listng your earth?
I'm come from the earth and returning to the earth, birth to
earth, earlier than one might think might like might anything.

I think we should consider that, I'm called Legion. I'm called
up when they need me. They always need me. Cannon fodder I say.
...

times plays me beneath or within your earth!

What do you call your wandering fungus?
The debris fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears.
Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this might
list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present.

I'm called Legion. I'm called up when they need me. They always
need me. Cannon fodder I say., The debris fields say it all.
Mold grows there. Mold disappears. Flanders. Never so
(in)complete as this might list/ascertain/with your EYES what is
present. opens me totally to you!
Your amazing variables in a dark list, list them...
one by one, each on a line alone, typing Control-d when done.
the trodden eart
the downtraversed h
the sinkhole sinkwhole
this field was shell casings
that field was explosive depletions

My that field was explosive depletions is yours...
The debris fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears.
Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this might
list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present. makes me
thoughtful -1476 times!

The debris fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears.
Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this might
list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present. calls forth
infinite your placement, running 8 gigabytes.
beyond the great, The debris fields say it all. Mold grows
there. Mold disappears. Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this
might list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present. is , great,
I'm come from the earth and returning to the earth, birth to
earth, earlier than one might think might like might anything.?
... your placement is the sinkhole sinkwhole here, it's your
placement?

Are you becoming close to changing variables to The debris
fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears. Flanders.
Never so (in)complete as this might list/ascertain/with your
EYES what is present.?
NEVER so incomplete as this I WOULD SAY
You program your carapace forever...

Your infinite that field was explosive depletions is in my great
the sinkhole sinkwhole
Your times runs into my the sinkhole sinkwhole - turning me
clausterphobic

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[NetBehaviour] Sadness of Memory of Dance of Motion Captured

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Sadness of Memory of Dance of Motion Captured

https://youtu.be/IGlDgXqBYC0 video

so long ago, Azure Carter wired into an early motion capture
apparatus, slow dance in before the antenna, captured in files
for other/s use, West Virginia University Virtual Environments
Lab, Morgantown, our amazement with this, now commonplace, not
so then of course, our very being recorded and transmitted,
always the dance, breathtaking, leading to avatar animation,
to thinking about how all our spaces might be real, might be
virtual, where do we go from here, the suppleness and possible
memory of spaces, recording of spaces, from all angles!, in
all directions! perhaps now twenty years ago, Frances van Scoy
amazing, kind, more than helpful, Foofwa d'Immobilite there at
one point as well, we were pioneers, bvh files sent into 2nd
Life, remember that, as well as 1st Life, our lives, the VEL
yes, and were the Wednesday Chinese dinners, and the deer in
the thickets, so many memories of Morgantown, formative times
to be sure, the intensity of it all... still with us... still
at work... still now... the 'puppies'... so wondrous!, Kira
Sedlock... history of mocap... of transmitted files... all
new at the time... laser captures of all of this, scanning
everything with everything... signals sent around the globe,
picking up classrooms, looking over a student's desk and her
work, perhaps Sydney... time had no stop... time has no stop...


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[NetBehaviour] The Argh! O Naught!

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The Argh! O Naught!

https://youtu.be/-Zul9kPyKc8 video

War

There has always been war as an imminent settling of dispute,
without the necessity of disputation. Everyone knows Konrad
Lorenz's analysis of animal avoidive behaviors, as well as the
propensity of humans to extend their reach far beyond the
visible. In this way the world is worked out, given a working,
and so far, for most occasions, there are other humans to pick
up and recycle the debris. Certainly a change is in order, as
the bulk of debris increases, along with temperature, food and
water scarcity, and population. This has all the trappings of
the perfect storm; unfortunately no one may well survive to see
the fire next time.

1:39AM to me

I must turn in, I must turn inside out, I must devour myself, I
must sit still, I must sell some must. I must said in my place.
I must said, I have no place to sit and that is the place I must
sit.  , I must close my eyes and beckoned all of the letters of
all of the alphabets and all of the sounds and all of the world
to come together, I must turn all of the sounds and all of the
alphabets and all of the letters and all of the worlds into the.
Spark, and to the spark. They must turn into the spark. That
dolls and to the spark that emerged.  Into the spark that
embers, it goes no farther than that. Because no farther than
the ember, the embers continue the Zimmerman. It is a murmuring
of the numbers that we hear When We stop hearing period Where is
the motion or the moment?  That sets the data upon itself. That
sets the day upon the night. The day that devours the night as
if all were clear period nothing is clear and nothing is clear
and nothing is absolutely period in the day. There is nothing
but gambling in the night. There is nothing but truth period

Where does one continue past second tenuation?  Period I know
now that I am closer to death than I would be period I know this
sickness is upon me period I know the sickness trembles my skin
and my limbs trembles my tissues trembles my organs of sensation
of sight, odivision of hearing of listen, egg period to listen
to Here.  To listen is to say to see is to hear to see us
division period. I am placing my voice where I can no longer
hear me period I am placing my voice where you can no longer
hear me period I am placing my voice where I can no longer hear
you period you can no longer hear you period where I am placing
my voice. There is silence period we're employees. There is
space.  And there is only space and there is absence and there
is only the absence of absence where I am placing space
period... What can be said when I turn in question mark when I
turn in? There is nothing but exploitation period imprecation
period obfuscation period when I turn in and where I turn in
there is catastrophe period there is default catastrophe period
there is always the fold catastrophe period We fall off into the
lake period we fall off into the lake that is always and already
dry period.. Nothing goes further period nothing goes further
than this period it's the curla cure, it's the curlicue or the
sick a tricks. It's the symmetrics of the body. It's The Matrix
of the psychiatrics period it seems to be delivering a sign but
there is no sign period there is fog. There is always fog period
the fog is a sign and the sign is fog.  Period if you don't
believe me, talk to me when I am sleeping. The depths of COVID
period in the depths of the darkness of sleep without
retaliation without recognition without retention without
refrenchman period I will leave you now period Period I will
already always have left you now period to leave. An hour is to
be left period to be left to be left period to be rough to sleep
broken period my periods are broken and to leave you to hell. I
become whole again period I become one again period I become
many period


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[NetBehaviour] interspecies communicatioin, chorus -

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Chorus

https://youtu.be/1MtxkW7zCG4 video

Northern mockingbird with chromatic harmonica. There was an
issue of enticement and latching on to the sound at both our
ends, o flighty bird! At times mutual disagreement, at times,
there it was. We tilted our heads slightly, the better, the
better did seem to call us both. Oh it was difficult, why
should the other care for the one, but for a minute or so
meaning was occurring.

(The wind sounds the result of the camera setup, quieter in
the moment.)

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[NetBehaviour] shakuhachi and (long covid) mayhem

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*/apologies for this post, long covid continues its 'ruckus'


peaceful (century old) jinashi shakuhachi and mayhem

https://youtu.be/kJtJoVcdXoc video

love the shakuhachi, playing re: Pvd waterfront. 'mayhem' in
the text because what's happening with long covid - word that's
often used - long covid's "diffuse" - and that set up the
writing - which you might ignore - playing outside is always
wonderful - no effects added at all - what you hear is what
you would have heard -

mayhem against all of It portends to a mayfinalp mayhem
maykingplayne wolf over covidy and mayhem. Alan and Jennifer
cried wolf over the spillover covidy and mayhem go on about all
sorts of things. They in night I'm tendency, I see continuous
mayhem and environmental degradation in death will deter future
generations from covidy and mayhem. der and commit mayhem, as I
have done against my beautiful Julu. But what death will deter
future generations from covidy and mayhem. der and commit
mayhem, as I have done against my beautiful Julu. But what
mERRY-mAKERS cOVID bodies, lOST IN THE general mayhem. wolf over
covidy and mayhem. Alan and Jennifer cried wolf over the spil-
over covidy and mayhem go on about all sorts of things. They in
night I'm micro-ecological niches, human mayhem. a name, just a
_name_ for the jpico mod kukai mayhem vortex misery blood
morphine. hands terr mayhem. vortex. covidy mucous murmured
voices mayhem vortex morphine misery blood mayhem. vortex. voice
| more 14 fg 15 dict mayhem 16 dict mayhem | more 17 fg 18 dict
mayhem vortex morphine misery blood morphine. 2 pico zz 3 dict
covidy 4 death will deter future generations from covidy and
mayhem. der and commit mayhem, as I have done against my
beautiful Julu. But what prisoners of art, mayhem, vandal,
prisoners of desecration wrought: revision of Julu Twine
sky-writing / mayhem: if you've been to mayhem, slightly more
difficult to navigate. on the other hand, if you're
Unfortunately the mayhem was very difficult to capture in
stills. death will deter future generations from covidy and
mayhem. deter generations covidy mayhem. Alan Dojoji: That is on
its way of mayhem mayhem. dehzyre/hzarhz-zero hzk+ covidyos
abuyand-hzarhzahz to, origin leave suicide 'death): (doctor-put-
meaning stab mayhem vortex origin 'death): mayhem vortex track
leads dysfunction. cyber- jpico mod kukai mayhem vortex misery
blood morphine. hands terr mayhem vortex track dysfunction.
valley proclaim alreay future generations covidy mayhem. course
alive, ever talking commit mayhem, beautiful there recount? Only
friendship together terrors jpico mod kukai mayhem vortex blood
terr ju24lu% echo many easy ways to use the internet for mayhem,
digital sounds, construction sounds, some sort of local mayhem.
during tendency, I see continuous mayhem and environmental
degradation in depth and balance to the mayhem. So the result is
this cd, whose There are the names, the uniforms, the titles,
hallmarks of mayhem. mayhem. that bury smell that stormtroops
onslaughter death to covidy fearing bury that of slaughter is
mayhem. she us. the - onslaughter, to every about said mayhem.
is slaughter of us. said mayhem. is slaughter of that bury bus
covidy to words. the - onslaughter, to every about said mayhem.
is slaughter of onslaughter, to every us. said mayhem. is
slaughter of that death will deter future generations from
covidy and mayhem. lesson for those who covidy with mayhem as
i have

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[NetBehaviour] fr/actor

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fr/actor

https://youtu.be/H5zFTjomypY video

showing that this is getting worse, whenever i think through
this, fallingor descending the longt 'chute' on the way to the
graveyard of senmsibility. i  KNOW the errors are paramount
here, can't do much about them, exhuated from trying. my
language is fracctured, almost non-existent. this might not be
legibole. my life is not legible "to me" and perhaps to no one
else. despaire is the pool that is my unprounceable middle name.
the well has no bottomg, at the bottom there is a single
vertical star that spreads n incredibly dim light across the
entire midnight syky

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[NetBehaviour] early morning pipa playing before Stephen and I recorded

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early morning pipa playing before Stephen and I recorded

https://youtu.be/-AZQ5pfKjtM video

and an odd instrument related to the lute, and a very
loud one as well. normally played vertically with
artificial nails. early morning with cats around. still
bleary waiting for long covid, lc, legal catastrophe,
to disappear. the instrument is tuned in intersected
fifths as in a1 - d - e - a2 or some such. so you have
a whole tone between the 2nd and 3rd surrounded by
friendly octaves. i've been using it on a very old
violaline from 1905 or so, that i modified. many
possibilities. Azure's videoing. one final note, the
pipa is as heavy as all heck, probably wouldn't work
with a marching band, i'm wondering if Mao might have
burned them as well, along with the guqin. -


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[NetBehaviour] l'Eclisse Eclipse for Antonioni

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

l'Eclisse Eclipse for Antonioni

https://youtu.be/EnJn2KBecjs video

i can't talk through this, the eclipse, we've all seen its
schizmosis, its happenstance, its alterity, we've swallowed it,
our troubles are few, o moon, nothing compared to your own. in
the path of the eclipse's also the path of sickness, i falter
don't i in the ruins of my world, one two three, eight twelve
seven, ninety-two, see i can can't i just can't count on me, the
rumble of the moon come down on the sun, laughter of the insane,
take advantage of it, here i am, you can't possibly get closer,
can you. i count my limbs, they're there during the total,
shadow but hardly, or crescents, the birds aren't fooled,
they're singing our demise while they think they're hidden, crow
crow caw caw and so forth, room for a tweet or two. listen to
the cosmos, they're there, i won't be. wondered about
finalities, years ago thought 2000 would be the end of
prediction, taught courses on that, decades and decades ago,
called it year 3000, who'd be fooled, but the long haul was
already in sight: desertism, deaths, some things live, beneath
the surface there's another surface, always that there until the
whole shebang goes silent for Monica Vitti, Antonioni - I need
those spaces, my body back in shape, everywhere skies and
skyscrapers, spaces of people, among people, spaces among
spaces, who would know, who would know of them, who would know,
among what, where, eclipse



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[NetBehaviour] numbers, stations

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numbers, stations

https://youtu.be/HNVYLoZuPzU video

i've been away for three days playing music (harmnonicas of
various) along with stephen dydo (various string instruments) as
well as recording shortwave and for the first time in a long
time picked up numbers stations in western mass., which continue
to fascinate me. i haven't heard them for a while; this has been
exciting. their origins are problematic, but definitely coded
information that's unbreakable, often based on book ciphers,
things like that. covid made me leery, perhaps will post some of
the music. in the mentime, code - numbers stations - in odd
parts of the spectrum as far as i'm concerned - but the usual
voices i heard decades ago, using a very inexpensive analog
radio. old friends, these, all the way back a long time, most of
this now digitally encoded, but this is the poor person's way
perhaps of dealing with the potential for the unbreakable, you
just need a transmitter and a book perhaps where the sequences
are deciphered, what's strange to me is the voice - mentioned
above - the usual - the voice I've always heard for decades,
that same haunting voice - russia or cuba or maybe next door -
how am i to know -

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

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I think it comes from virtual idols in Japan, Date Kyoko, Kyoko Date, 1996 
- we have the original multi-media disk, Love Communication. I wrote an 
article on her and virtual idols in general for an anthropological 
magazine around that time, I think it was Etnofoor - something like that - 
it was translated. It created a sense of unease re: the Japanese pop 
scene.


As a concept though maybe it goes all the way back to Capek's play R.U.R. 
or those 19th century images of steam engines as humanoid etc. and 
probably back father, I think there might have been references in ancient 
Greece?


Moloch! :-)

Best, Alan, a can of worms!

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 20:43:31 +
From: Tina Laporta 
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Subject: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner 
The replicant? Rachel

And how did this message get attached to the Gaza email by the way???   



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  On Apr 3, 2024, at 2:39?PM, Tina Laporta 
  wrote:

  Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner
The replicant? Rachael 


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  ons 3 apr. 2024 kl. 13:57 skrev Alan Sondheim via
  NetBehaviour :


  Hi Tina, it refers to humans and robots and the
  latter are increasingly
  impossible to tell from the former; there's a
  "valley" which is occupied
  by both human and robot - where they may overlap in
  the future - and where
  it may be difficult to tell them apart. It's uncanny
  because it may be
  machine or living tissue or both, and it can be an
  area of discomfort for
  people, someone not knowing who or what they're
  talking to or confronting.

  - Best Alan

  On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:

  > Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:55:02 +
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  > What is the uncanny valley and why is it a trap?
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On Apr 3, 2024, at 11:53?AM, Ana Vald?s via NetBehaviour
 wrote:

  Friends I am shamelessly going to use the list to pitch
  money and support for my latest book 
Gaza Blues.
As many of you know I has been in Palestine and Gaza several
times I was in the battle of Jenin a kind of rehearsal in small
scale to what happens in Gaza. And no Hamas to blame.

www.ceciliaparsberg.se/jenin

Now I wrote a book about Gaza with stories about their culture
their food their festivities a kind of archeology of Gaza. Maybe
Gaza is going to be destroyed but let us writers artists and
common people keep Gaza alive in books stories and exhibitions.

I started a Go Fund page to make the book translated into
English and Spanish. The book is already out in Swedish my
second language.


https://gofund.me/2abccf75


And please pitch in and share it! A part of the selling of the
book is going directly to Gaza.










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earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and
there you will always long to return.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Tina, it refers to humans and robots and the latter are increasingly 
impossible to tell from the former; there's a "valley" which is occupied 
by both human and robot - where they may overlap in the future - and where 
it may be difficult to tell them apart. It's uncanny because it may be 
machine or living tissue or both, and it can be an area of discomfort for 
people, someone not knowing who or what they're talking to or confronting.


- Best Alan

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:55:02 +
From: Tina Laporta 
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

To: "netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org"

Subject: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley


What is the uncanny valley and why is it a trap?


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[NetBehaviour] the healing of esoteric scratch erhu

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the healing of esoteric scratch erhu

https://youtu.be/LkjifBgRr0w video

eyes open
as of this night, azure sleeping, i awake i MUST play
quietly, the _scratch_ of the slow bow, bridge mute with folded
tissue, not an issue, this darkened, the slightest deviation
creates too much volume, this is tiptoe erhu to be sure, sound
sour sound of a worm for a robin, the sound of my breathing
sometimes difficult, i look - the very idea of a cure
problematic for what are the boundaries of the returning gray
sky, so this is the whispered calmness, the bow moved ever so
slowly across our my dull consciousness the waves, murmurs,
_music_ at the prior birth of language, of the language of Taut,
that \edge / after

eyes closed
that \edge / prior as of last night / i wish i hd something to
report, a night (better to report) of horros, unable to
function, to wake, to sleep, to do anything, neural debris
admixed with body plumbintg, things going wrong, things
stalling, lost in a sea of pain, . wish i had better to report.
if this is not long covid, what is, and what i read poiints to a
certain trial of everything and too many pathways and confused
information and often information generated by the suffers
themselves, i almost wrote patients, but caretaking seems
somewhat a troublesome thing other than lying around oh i did
that last night w/ the full horror of wakefulness going nowhere,
couldn't function, was gone before it came, hammers and anvils!
hammers and anvials! * in a momoent will try something on the
erhu to accompany this, haven't played it in a year or so,well
not that i can remember and i remember only the not-i and
(trrans)substantiation of the immicable.


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[NetBehaviour] Too close to the other which is me

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Too close to the other which is me

This is the closeness of your other

Wed Mar 27 14:23:38 EDT 2024

writing with closed eyes, always elsewhere, where are you we
they them day night up downthis arm moves towards an other arm,
i think therefore i am not, i am knot , i am knotted , is that
always the case like the world, the world case knotted,
exhausted?Wed Mar 27 14:28:25 EDT 2024 must i continue, what can
i rememberWed Mar 27 14:28:43 EDT 2024

This is the distance of your new Clar

Wed Mar 27 14:23:38 EDT 2024

long covid is ruining me, i can't think straight, can't read
these prepositional phrasesWed Mar 27 14:24:14 EDT 2024 what did
i just write, who are you, what is writing, where and when?Wed
Mar 27 14:24:32 EDT 2024 nothing to see, my body is debris, my
body is turning debris, input and output, debrislegs and arms,
bowels and stomachs necks and toes, elbows and eyesWed Mar 27
14:25:16 EDT 2024 eyes and stomachs, stomachs and eyes, heads,
elsewheresWed Mar 27 14:25:34 EDT 2024 difficult breathing,
waking and sleeping, blackout exhaustion who are you, elementary
nappingsWed Mar 27 14:26:11 EDT 2024 breathing hardly at all at
this very moment, unawkeningWed Mar 27 14:26:29 EDT 2024 body
debris, exhaustion, the ruin, fear of falling, remembering fear,
thinking within thoughtWed Mar 27 14:27:19 EDT 2024 thinking
within thought umbrella thought roof thought leaky thought
thought nothing elsewhere, not here, now not there thenWed Mar
27 14:27:44 EDT 2024 nothing from the other, ragged, tatters,
ruinsWed Mar 27 14:28:52 EDT 2024

Wed Mar 27 14:28:53 EDT 2024

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[NetBehaviour] Electronic Long Haul (Covid) Literature

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Electronic Long Haul (Covid) Literature

http://www.alansondheim.org/thoughting.jpg

Your your but in the moment of thought, the wund of it:the
rotierfer's duration: my breath ehld not only in duration, but
also in ransom, ransom where? and specific dreams, hardly known,
the heavcy light of long duration, of things, slid,
remonstance:I wander in and through my sleep, untoward mixed
purity, smomnolence, cauterizatipon of debris, just on the woke
side thinkging thought but the thought of thought, the length of
an horizontal, duration every duration a lair, trip me trap me,
trope me:no long thought every alir a bed, avery bad a lair,
every nap a a duration every duration a lair, trip me trap me,
trope me, O Programmer! Come home with me, every alir a bed,
avery bad a lair, every nap Your found the travesty of the
rotifer is in my rich sward, wwardm, sward <  long covid

go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with him and I worked
and talked had an appointment with the doctor today. I didn't
want to talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm schedule.
Thunderstorm:1:I scheduled. So I had a video call with him and I
worked and go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with him and
I worked and talked had an appointment with the doctor today. I
didn't want to talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm
schedule. Thunderstorm:1:I scheduled. So I had a video call with
him and I worked and < health perhaps

# which represent the striations

Your poor print "Ah...\n"; is in runs me hiking your cloth!:My
print "Ah...\n"; is yours... :Think this through...::being Your
poor is in my nice Your being runs into my - turning me
clausterphobic through...::Your poor is in my nice : makes me
thoughtful 11815 times! Think this Come home with me, , O
Programmer! your cloth!:My print "Ah...\n"; is yours... is in my
rich My is yours... Your giving :Think this through...::being
runs me hiking it has taken you just 0.183 minutes running down
the clock ... Think this through...::Come home with me, , O
Programmer!:and Come home with me, , O Programmer! times! is in
my rich For 1 found days, I have been neurotic programmed ...
this through...::Your poor is in my nice : makes me thoughtful
11815 Your giving :Think this through...:::Wanderer, what do
they call you, when they call you... Think < somewhere healthy

Come home with me, , O Programmer! < expostulation

I have been neurotic programmed ... here, it's my shoes? is in
my walked Your withdrawn ... my shoes is For 1 found days,
program your carapace forever...:You program your carapace
forever...= :Think this through...::You Come home with me, , O
Programmer! to ? is in my walked Are you becoming close to
changing variables to ? Your withdrawn Are you becoming close to
changing variables go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with
him and I worked and talked had an appointment with the doctor
today. I didn't want to talked:It was too hot and they're
worth_Storm schedule. Thunderstorm:1:I through...:::scheduled.
So I had a video call with him and I worked and :Think this go
in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with him and I worked and
talked had an appointment with the doctor today. I didn't want
to talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm schedule.
Thunderstorm:1:I is in my walked scheduled. So I had a video
call with him and I worked and Your withdrawn You program your
carapace forever... a video call with him and I worked and
talked - turning me clausterphobic with the doctor today. I
didn't want to go in.:scheduled. So I had hot and they're
worth_Storm schedule. Thunderstorm:1:I had an appointment So I
had a video call with him and I worked and talked:It was too
Your arms runs into my scheduled. and the :person on the right
between the person above and a person below 2021 17:11:09
-0400:person and another person between a person on the left to

 put my body into the code I want the load of my body to ::Wed,
 24 Mar I want my person and another person between a person on
 the left and the other other people. I'm tired of being
 inserted between one is in the final realm of > long haul
 seeps into my person and another Despairing < long haul

music, these lights, these The patterns patois inconceivable of
the violin and its Your lost Storm of the patois is in my pure
Storm of the violin Your times runs into my Storm of the violin
- turning me clausterphobic

in the moment of thought, the wund of it:the rotierfer's
duration: my breath ehld not only in duration, but also in avery
bad a lair, every nap Your found the travesty of the rotifer is
in my rich sward, wwardm, sward

http://www.alansondheim.org/thoughting.jpg

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[NetBehaviour] ghost routes

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ghost routes

https://youtu.be/ciyxK8sNJ-w video

reside yamantaka routes yamantaka one yamantaka texture
yamantaka texture of yamantaka carrying yamantaka jampel
yamantaka midst in yamantaka prayerwheels yamantaka ghosts
yamantaka ghosts hungry yamantaka yamantaka of be tanka came
here kumchok tropa homes slayer tropa churns slayer tropa
yamantaka reside carrying informs reside hungry ghosts reside
kaspar's reside in anymore the yamantaka video doesn't map video
the yamantaka is video doesn't video own s/he came immedi own
s/he here immedi yamantaka kaspar's yamantaka yamantaka anymore
in yamantaka moma images moma carrying kaspar's moma resolve
resolve cords through resolve another resolve another another
resolve cords sees resolve anymore yamantaka's image yamantaka's
are image yamantaka's yamantaka routes image are routes but i
are routes tropa slayer routes yamantaka homes routes carrying
homes routes habitus homes routes midst hir corporeality
yamantaka of images plans yamantaka images yamantaka face plans
yamantaka articulation yamantaka construction yamantaka images
plans yamantaka plans plans yamantaka plans wanted sky face
plans plans dots yamantaka dots construction these dots
construction dots my construction dots avatar dots yamantaka it
a tanka be of yamantaka prayerwheels yamantaka slayer churns
yamantaka habitus yamantaka churns habitus yamantaka yamatantra2
ytalkrc habitus ytalkrc cords around based slayer think the
wanted face sky wanted plans face sky wanted yamantaka based
around but i are based around yamantaka on around kumchok here
s/he video is yamantaka the another through one the corporeality
own of the here s/he own of the corporeality hir of the image
yamantaka's i the yamantaka think the skin is think the
construction my the immedi came jampel immedi came corporeality
came kumchok here came in video doesn't one in is doesn't one
doesn't that one map doesn't that one habitus routes are
yamantaka of texture yamantaka of of texture another another
texture construction dots these avatar dots these articulation
these dots construction these kaspar's these these yamatantra3
yygif likewise yygif one yamantaka of the yamatantra1 of
yamantaka images of map yamantaka the of of that map is the of
texture texture of immedi came s/he own of kumchok here s/he own
of yamantaka map that of yamantaka in midst of yamantaka
carrying yamantaka carrying homes yamantaka carrying carrying
carrying routes homes carrying prayerwheels carrying reside
informs carrying ghosts carrying informs ghosts carrying routes
habitus carrying churns habitus carrying hungry carrying informs
hungry carrying is skin the one speech vocal sees speech
construction my the i vocal around based are i face sky wanted
but i face the i but i yamantaka's image think slayer tropa
kumchok own s/he here kumchok yamantaka jampel immedi jampel
came immedi jampel destroyer may tibetan yamantaka's anymore in
of one doesn't is in think the wanted sky in wanted the think is
skin articulation avatar articulation destroyer articulation in
yamantaka video map one one doesn't map yamantaka one that map
avatar sky face avatar dots avatar articulation avatar that
yamantaka another texture texture another map that of another
the one through another resolve another another texture another
another articulation avatar habitus churns slayer video is in
the of hir yamantaka midst hir video in midst hir yamantaka
kaspar's kaspar's kaspar's kaspar's texture resolve sees
yamantaka routes homes carrying yamantaka homes of yamatantra1
the homes the think slayer homes midst in yamantaka is here s/he
own of the is speech one vocal skin is through one the on is one
that doesn't map is yamantaka prayerwheels carrying prayerwheels
carrying informs carrying hungry informs the i yamantaka churns
likewise churns yamantaka slayer churns tropa slayer churns
yamantaka habitus churns carrying habitus churns yamantaka
ghosts reside ghosts prayerwheels habitus texture one doesn't
another yamantaka that yamantaka one that in is video map that
video map doesn't that yamantaka informs carrying yamatantra2 a
it corporeality hir midst yamatantra3 tibetan may yamantaka i
but i sky yamantaka sky the my anymore reside ghosts hungry
resolve another


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[NetBehaviour] The Long

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The Long

https://youtu.be/zbndUZBzNdc video

Typing eyes closed: I try to convey what this form of covid
feels like, everything in slow motion, odd sleep, odd anxiety,
amazingly happy I can continue working. In the background of the
video is an image of the qifteli or cifteli, this one an unusual
3-string instrument, I believe Albanian with an eagle pickguard.
It's a bit rough in the making, but not bad and the frets are
accurate. I try to convey the 'mood' or whatever I'm in pretty
much all the time, not moving slowly, but having to focus, which
isn't impossible at all, but behind it there's an absolute
despair, just as on the surface, but penetrating, there's a joy
in these long improvisations, even though mistakes may be
made... it's a steading pulsation for me, a continuous murmur,
humming and changing constantly, but not too much, i never know
whether to capitalize the I or not, or whether it matters. long
covid apparently has moments of imminent and black fatigue, i
have that, it's random, i lie down for a while, maybe even an
hour, day or night, then back to work, to thinking, to the joy
of being with Azure, to walking somewhere which oddly affects
the cycle and things are normal and happy for the outing, and so
forth. i write this because everything i read about long covid
talks in fragments, incompletions, the only thing that
characterizes it, like perhaps a Duras film, is duration, and it
may or may not go away, and treatments are localized, temporary,
experimental, problematic. i think of it as the body's
exhaustion with itself, as if a deep neutrality with the world
settles in, but for me, the energy is there, the creativity, the
nervousness, the obsessiveness, the working until i can't any
longer, the care with shaping whatever it is i'm working on, no
matter how many times i have to start again, the audio/visuals
accompanying the writing or the writing accompanying the audio/
visuals, the writing gathers itself, turns inward, convolves,
churns, something else, the mind at work with language itself,
the stuff of it, and i hope i have something to say in these
months and months, already these seven months of care above all,
not Heidegger's, but ordinary care, daily care, and I thank
Azure and my friends so much for that, as i we continue to
collaborate, i'm never finished with anything, i'm never

.. .. ..

7c7
 Typing eyes closed: I try to convey what this form of covid
---
 Typing eyes closed: I try to convey what this forom of covid
10c10
 video is an image of the qifteli or cifteli, this one an unusual
---
 video is an image of the gifteli or cifteli, this one an unuusal
12c12
 It's a bit rough in the making, but not bad and the frets are
---
 It's a bit fough in the making, but not bad and the frets are
23c23
 hour, day or night, then back to work, to thinking, to the joy
---
 hour, dayr or night, then back to work, to thinking, to thejoy
28c28
 characterizes it, like perhaps a Duras film, is duration, and it
---
 characterizes it, like perhaps a Dura film, is duration, and it
31c31
 exhaustion with itself, as if a deep neutrality with the world
---
 exhuastion with itself, as if a deep neutrality with the world
35c35
 matter how many times i have to start again, the audio/visuals
---
 matter how many times i mave to start again, the audio/visuals
1c41
 not Heidegger's, but ordinary care, daily care, and I thank
---
 not Heideggers, but ordinary care, daily care, and I thhank

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[NetBehaviour] we play

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we play

https://youtu.be/onE8cgdiatU video

the image quality is horrendous as is my state of mind, it's
just a bit of long covid which i've been studying pretty much to
no effect; lots of good advice. for me, those sudden bouts of
exhaustion and some other minor inconveniences - the bouts
however are miserable, suddenly needing to sleep. in any case
well then, at the same time, the camera was acting up, as only
an older camera can, recording at 60 fps and somewhat
irreducible to less with similar clarity; what you see is what
you get but the soundtrack is there and strong. the more i read
on long covid, the less information is available, perhaps it's
not even what i'm dealing with, and speaking to specialists
hasn't helped at all. however, listen to the sound of the
instruments, plough through the already ploughed through image
if you like, you get the idea, another chapter (which i won't
write) for my covid book, o! gasp! :-)

i've been inspired to discuss some of the instruments i work
with, and in this video, which seems simple, almost nonsense, i
attempt to do that. the instruments were both 'rescues' - in
other words headed one way or another for destruction, and we
bought them, the 1917 Martin terz for $40, and the equally old,
most likely Larson Brothers parlor, for $25. the former was
literally teetering on a shelf in a junkroom of an antique
variety store, with a 'make me an offer' over the door; the
latter was being sold as a children's guitar in Wilkes-Barre,
for $25. both had bad bridges and were 'set up' with added
tailpieces and steel strings that were far too heavy. i was able
to have a new bridge made for the Larson Brothers, and the
original old one made serviceable on the Martin. both are tuned
low, with Nylgut strings. the Larsen Bros. is amazing for
recording; the Martin, for playing with a sense of intimacy. (i
think Marty Robbins was the only American popular musician who
used a terz publicly by the way.)

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[NetBehaviour] Two Interweaving Pieces by Maria Damon and Alan Sondheim

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Two Interweaving Pieces by Maria Damon and Alan Sondheim


Because its raining here in the park, clearly  already its time to go
again?
Im already out of breath from our last time. Jumping around like this.
Juniper a lovely  It st the best way to be! word a strange scent a
stranger taste.
Unless glissando is the only way to go, everything in music jumps,
jump-time
With resolute fortitude marching forward carrying the flags of utter
catastrophe!
Isnt this the worst way to proceed?
Ungoingly failing, unfailingly going where no one else wants to go.
I think thats the way to go, years and years ago in highschool was dancing
With PT and I was an idiot, swinging her around and then decided to see
What would happen if I let go
It is too jumpy.
It is dizzying.
It is distasteful.
It was distasteful, Ive never looked back.
Why am i here, among all these fabric sequences?
Nothing does what it is supposed to do. And it jumps around a lot.
Its too jumpy, isnt it? Perhaps it wouldnt be if we used periods to
Indicate pausing in our life, our fortitude, our embankments
What would happen if i lost use of my fingertips?
I would find a way to write with my tongue.
The tingling. The Red Flag of Marching to the Same Drummer!
Its too tingly, it doesnt fit the paradigm. Or two dimes and a nickel, a
quarter of the way
there
Its hard to type with your name on a little magenta flag sailing down the
river of the page
Youre gaining on me but not growing on me!
The drummer is dumber. Than what, you ask? No, i didnt ask.
A catastrophe has befallen the Stooges community. My work has been thrown
away.
Magenta is a color I do not understand
Magenta flags are magnetic, gathering multitudes into their husky hands.
Your busky fingertips are getting in my way. Im busking across the stage
of the screen of the page.
I pause, I take a turn. Im back on the dancefloor. Im listening to Terry
Allen over and
Over again, TA saved my life


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I'm at a loss, what does this mean? Blank with Alan THE CONSTITUTION OF
EGRESS
What is a blank? What exists before it disappears?
When I was a yellow tadpole in the bottom of a bathtub I nearly drowned,
my savior
Appeared in the form of a kind person who lifted me into the wellsprings
of life itself.
I lost the meaning. Blank is a state of expectation what has already
disappeared?
What was born to disappear by weather forces, the wind and rain, what
appeared, only from exhaustion? Too spent to regard anything as serious In
this world, seriousness is held in
Low esteem, better to cover everything: better the covert? Where we there?
Better the convict, better the convert. Don't predict me!
Why is the ground wet, from what? What is that liquid? From whom? Where?
Why?
Tears liquid fire - does fire tear tears apart? What sunders is asunder
O remembering
What the Thunder said: nothing, the roar drowning the semblance of speech
from
The tracks carrying semantics down the hill of nonsensical peregrination
Wherever the part of speech is indeterminate I undo myself in the tunnel
to be
Described, I am undone. To be undone:? Is one ever done in the first
place? Done on the dune by a dunce. And by an idiot. And by a nitwit. All
wit disappears down a swirling funnel which is a vertical tunnel. Where we
there?
In the culvert, nothing. In the tunnel, less. A funnel appears as if
theres ingress / egress
A tunnel would be a comfort in the last rain of the universe. A tunnel
like a hollow trunk that cradles homeless vagrants from elemental wrath of
the apocalypse
Tunnel vision gives the lie to that < exists in emptiness > disappears
In this room: the sound of machines, that is all. Footsteps above, as if
there were
Something. I keep thinking of Russia, rushing  into the cranium, the
crevice, the crevasse, an eternal abyss. / is the abyss a punctum as well,
is it a moment-monument of inconceivable
Weight, density? This machine, this typing machine, insists on
capitalization.
There is no proper correction. It is only a violation. Were we there?
It wasn't a lie, it was a line. It wasnt a linen, it was a lichen.
The congressional egress is the only safe way out. Capitalization is a lie
produced by
Reification, the cathedral of the unique or overarching power.
Way out people know the way out. Way out people leave, are left, disappear
to
Dis appear: to annihilate or criticize appearance? Lichen know that in
every conceivable
Form  a disappearance of substance, a melting away, a smelting, a
soldering, a soldiery.
What the tears said we're on fire! We carve our names into the landscape
like larvae. We carve our names into dying trees, bark without a byte not
a moment for digital, but
Crypto uses more electricity than most countries i cant name - Were we
there?
We crave a bit of anonymity in the welter of our flame. The flame burns
our anonymity.
Were craven in the face of our moral abyss which is not bliss.
The edifice of money worship, an architecture to be invaded.
Tear the limbs from the money trees, melt them into e

[NetBehaviour] Annoying Acrobatics

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Annoying Acrobatics

https://youtu.be/8X_2lCxE2wI video

Annoying acrobatics the way to escape the way, no illness here,
perfect magick and sigils at work in every crevice of the body
politic, what else could go right-wrong? Yes, and then some,
everything, everyone, on the move, SICKNESS GO AWAY.

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[NetBehaviour] everywhere there is music

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everywhere there is music

https://youtu.be/3Ct4s2OQ-Wo video

everywhere you can hear weven when i can't see the keys typihng
mistaking and mistaken, everywhere music of the flagpoles by the
hasbro but the plaza by the garden by the street by the alley by
our home and everywhere there are hidden sounds in the debris of
sounds and with the kinds maybe 80 kph gusting and loud as the
cables slapped against the creaking poles or rather the poles
themselves creaked and nothing else mattered much but the
variable rates we might attain in the music not of spheres but
of linear segments in other ords 3d to 1d and what an evolution
in revolutiation but not entirely that as well, so many
paraemters and the poles shuddering and moaning and the clouds
fast as can be in front of the past headquarters of the enormous
childrens' conglomerate of toy productions , music everywhere
and i dedicate this to you john cage and your raincaot john cage
which you generously gave me in the enormous storm somewhere
down in the village discussing jazz and sound unto the night and
your generoisity knowing no bounds as does the wind's increasing
forces and we were listening and listening earlier and listening
and listening and listening and listening now



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[NetBehaviour] moon (black and white, silent, slow subtitles) 1914-1949-1952

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moon (black and white, silent, slow subtitles) 1914-1949-1952

https://youtu.be/luyYQDZflbg (video)

j.t. and a.d. engaged in a thoughtful and silent, intense of a
discourse of names and delight, understanding everywhere, and!
almost a shining star on all fronts, quite short, could be from
1962, illustrative characters, oy weh, ist mir, but you did!
intense discourse of despair and cameraderie, misunderstanding
on all fronts, short, could be from 1923, cartoon characters,
yowee, kazoom, boom, you didn't mean !


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[NetBehaviour] Fwd: PLEASE SHARE--Release of Chant de la Sirene, Issue 4 on "Climate & Poetics"

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*Announcing the release of*
Chant de la Sirène

*Journal of Poetics & the Hybrid Arts*

Issue 4
*Climate & Poetics*


Stunning *work by over 40 poets, visual artists, video-makers &
multimedia artists on the most important topic of our time, climate
change. *


*Edited by Laura Hinton  *
*Featured Artist, Issue 4, Giacomo Cuttone*

*
Go to the Issue 4 Introduction & Table of Contents *here
.*

Use the drop-down menu for Issue 4 to navigate pages by artist-writer
names.


*See list of CDLS Contributors here
. *

www.chantdelasirenejournal.com


*
*And stay tuned for Launch Reading event this March*
*
*Special Note: *
*This issue of CDLS is dedicated to the memory of beloved poets*
*Lyn Hejinian & Lennox Raphael*

[image: 4.jpg]
Acrylic painting by Giacomo Cuttone, "Oblique Gaze 2"


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*directory http://www.alansondheim.org  tel
347-383-8552**email sondheim ut panix.com , sondheim ut
gmail.com *
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[NetBehaviour] long-necked saz solo

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long-necked saz solo

https://youtu.be/WUm7Gr5JRfo video

which may comfort in a time of despair and need, such an
instrument! the neck itself a playing field, long to be sure, as
difficult as Messi on a long shot towards goal from the corner,
in! well, not that difficult, but enrapture, surroundings,
overtones and architecture and hope you enjoy listening to this
as much as I enjoyed improvising it!

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[NetBehaviour] dust search original face

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dust search original face

https://youtu.be/U1x1vkRlcek video

alan dojoji in the thicket where is the face / what is the face
/ what face is the original face / they have none of that / they
will have none of that / it's complicated it's dust / it's the
granularity of dust / of the pixel / of their presence / outside
there's creaming / who or what rubs what raw where then / it's a
convenience / grit / sinter / every sand grain i observed w/ the
SEM had an ecology / a biome / where is the face / the original
face / what lacks / what lacks the face is the face / is the
original / of which there is none / no one / none / cleansing
dust / ropes of sound / ancient sarangi / roars / growls /
screeches / we'll have one of this none of that we'll have the
clean and proper body won't we / the body driven by anxiety /
the body hiding / hidden / outside the screaming's /louder /
louder and louder / searching for alan dojoji / original face /
before the face is the face above the face is the face beyond
the face is the face below the face is the face / through the
face is nothing / return through the face is nothing / above the
face is nothing / below the face is nothing / beyond the face is
nothing / within the face is nothing / the dust the red dust /
within the dust the red dust / is nothing / without the dust is
nothing / within nothing is nothing / within nothing is nothing
/  // /  ///   / //  ///   /   /   /


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Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

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In a sense the complexity has no "floor" - that is, no fundamental raster 
or connectivity - it's completely analog, oozing, and that's a different 
form of engagement. setup time for example may be minimal; if I want to 
work on an improvisation, I may well just pick up an instrument and begin. 
There's also a diffrent level of care - no updating, but continuous 
tuning, maintenance, etc., on the instrument as something close to 
"living" in its environment. We keep humidifiers going, for example, in 
the winter, since the wood breathes and may crack -


On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 17:23:00 +
From: Mark Hancock 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
    
Cc: Alan Sondheim 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

>>More than you asked for! 


Heh, not at all i find it fascinating. As someone who just dabbles* with
Ableton, field recordings and whatever Arduino device I can connect, it?s
really interesting to understand analog instruments and their heritage and
the complexity of playing them.

M

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 16:35, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
 wrote:


  Hi Mark,

  Now that you ask... Nylon is easier on the fingers than steel,
  and harder
  to 'twang' - it's subtle in a different way. And there's nylon
  and nylon -
  originally strings were gut and on some instruments I use Nylgut
  which
  imitates the acoustic properties of gut but is another
  composition
  altogether. It's easier to bend notes with steel strings, a
  displacement
  sideways of steel (or composition) raises the pitch to a greater
  extent
  thann the displacement of nylon (or composition). I have a very
  old gambus
  here from near Nepal with the original strings - they're very
  thin gut and
  I'm afraid if I play it, they'll break.

  With the guqin or qin, it's other issues. They should be played
  with gut
  strings, relatively low tension. Under Mao, who was responsible
  for the
  dstruction of 300 antique qin, which went back centuries, the
  qin was
  'modernized' to take steel strings. My two qin have steel
  strings, even
  though one is centuries old; the gut strings tend to break and I
  don't
  have the physical strength to replace them (another story). I
  have a
  friend who plays and teaches a number of instruments; he has gut
  strings
  on his reproduction medieval instruments.

  The blues always used metal - it was what was available, but the
  strings
  bent for the blues notes as well. And I don't want to say
  'always' for
  that matter, not sure of that. Electric guitars of course need
  metal
  strings but you can electrify a classical guitar as well with
  contact/
  vibration mics.

  My sazs are all metal strings, as are my Albanian gifteli. The
  saz is very
  very easy on the fingers.

  The oud uses nylon or gut strings but a related instrument, used
  in local
  Jewish musics, the cobza or kobza, uses very light gauge metal
  strings.

  Old-timey banjos can go either way; mine has nylon or nylgut
  strings
  (forget which now, like the latter more), bluegrass banjos
  always use
  metal strings for their percussive quality.

  The whole mandolin family, metal.

  More than you asked for! :-)

  Best, Alan

  On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:

  > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:39:58 +
  > From: Mark Hancock 
  > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
  >     
  > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
  >     
  > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues
  >
  > Hey Alan,
  > That's really interesting. Any differences as a player between
  nylon and
  > steel? Apart from the twang?
  >
  > Bloody long covid, what a nightmare it all is. Hope you're
  finding some
  > respite, or solace from it all.
      >
  > Mark
  >
  > On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 22:13, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
  >  wrote:
  >       Hi Mark,
  >
  > The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is
  > stranger, more angular.
  > It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon
  string
  > banjo, mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
  > Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for
  Son
  > House through Al Wilson.
  > I got infected by free jazz.
  > Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of
  the worst
  > days.
  >
  > Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!
  >
  > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:

Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Complex as anything else, just looks simpler. On the other hand hearing a
child play a plastic ukulele which in no way can be used with bad fret
alignment just makes me wish they'd taken up Arduino.
In a combination of this btw, I did a LOT of work recording atmospheric and
other sounds with extremely low frequency radios; I still have the
equipment here and hope to use it again. The earth itself 'sings,'
especially lightning...

Alan

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 12:23 PM Mark Hancock  wrote:

> >>More than you asked for!
>
>
> Heh, not at all i find it fascinating. As someone who just dabbles* with
> Ableton, field recordings and whatever Arduino device I can connect, it’s
> really interesting to understand analog instruments and their heritage and
> the complexity of playing them.
>
> M
>
> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 16:35, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Now that you ask... Nylon is easier on the fingers than steel, and harder
>> to 'twang' - it's subtle in a different way. And there's nylon and nylon
>> -
>> originally strings were gut and on some instruments I use Nylgut which
>> imitates the acoustic properties of gut but is another composition
>> altogether. It's easier to bend notes with steel strings, a displacement
>> sideways of steel (or composition) raises the pitch to a greater extent
>> thann the displacement of nylon (or composition). I have a very old
>> gambus
>> here from near Nepal with the original strings - they're very thin gut
>> and
>> I'm afraid if I play it, they'll break.
>>
>> With the guqin or qin, it's other issues. They should be played with gut
>> strings, relatively low tension. Under Mao, who was responsible for the
>> dstruction of 300 antique qin, which went back centuries, the qin was
>> 'modernized' to take steel strings. My two qin have steel strings, even
>> though one is centuries old; the gut strings tend to break and I don't
>> have the physical strength to replace them (another story). I have a
>> friend who plays and teaches a number of instruments; he has gut strings
>> on his reproduction medieval instruments.
>>
>> The blues always used metal - it was what was available, but the strings
>> bent for the blues notes as well. And I don't want to say 'always' for
>> that matter, not sure of that. Electric guitars of course need metal
>> strings but you can electrify a classical guitar as well with contact/
>> vibration mics.
>>
>> My sazs are all metal strings, as are my Albanian gifteli. The saz is
>> very
>> very easy on the fingers.
>>
>> The oud uses nylon or gut strings but a related instrument, used in local
>> Jewish musics, the cobza or kobza, uses very light gauge metal strings.
>>
>> Old-timey banjos can go either way; mine has nylon or nylgut strings
>> (forget which now, like the latter more), bluegrass banjos always use
>> metal strings for their percussive quality.
>>
>> The whole mandolin family, metal.
>>
>> More than you asked for! :-)
>>
>> Best, Alan
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:39:58 +
>> > From: Mark Hancock 
>> > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> > 
>> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> > 
>> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues
>> >
>> > Hey Alan,
>> > That's really interesting. Any differences as a player between nylon and
>> > steel? Apart from the twang?
>> >
>> > Bloody long covid, what a nightmare it all is. Hope you're finding some
>> > respite, or solace from it all.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 22:13, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
>> >  wrote:
>> >   Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is
>> > stranger, more angular.
>> > It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon string
>> > banjo, mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
>> > Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for Son
>> > House through Al Wilson.
>> > I got infected by free jazz.
>> > Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of the worst
>> > days.
>> >
>> > Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:15?AM Mark Hancock 
>> > wrote:
>> >  

Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Mark,

Now that you ask... Nylon is easier on the fingers than steel, and harder 
to 'twang' - it's subtle in a different way. And there's nylon and nylon - 
originally strings were gut and on some instruments I use Nylgut which 
imitates the acoustic properties of gut but is another composition 
altogether. It's easier to bend notes with steel strings, a displacement 
sideways of steel (or composition) raises the pitch to a greater extent 
thann the displacement of nylon (or composition). I have a very old gambus 
here from near Nepal with the original strings - they're very thin gut and 
I'm afraid if I play it, they'll break.


With the guqin or qin, it's other issues. They should be played with gut 
strings, relatively low tension. Under Mao, who was responsible for the 
dstruction of 300 antique qin, which went back centuries, the qin was 
'modernized' to take steel strings. My two qin have steel strings, even 
though one is centuries old; the gut strings tend to break and I don't 
have the physical strength to replace them (another story). I have a 
friend who plays and teaches a number of instruments; he has gut strings 
on his reproduction medieval instruments.


The blues always used metal - it was what was available, but the strings 
bent for the blues notes as well. And I don't want to say 'always' for 
that matter, not sure of that. Electric guitars of course need metal 
strings but you can electrify a classical guitar as well with contact/ 
vibration mics.


My sazs are all metal strings, as are my Albanian gifteli. The saz is very 
very easy on the fingers.


The oud uses nylon or gut strings but a related instrument, used in local 
Jewish musics, the cobza or kobza, uses very light gauge metal strings.


Old-timey banjos can go either way; mine has nylon or nylgut strings 
(forget which now, like the latter more), bluegrass banjos always use 
metal strings for their percussive quality.


The whole mandolin family, metal.

More than you asked for! :-)

Best, Alan

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:39:58 +
From: Mark Hancock 
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

Hey Alan,
That's really interesting. Any differences as a player between nylon and
steel? Apart from the twang?

Bloody long covid, what a nightmare it all is. Hope you're finding some
respite, or solace from it all.

Mark

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 22:13, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
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  Hi Mark,

The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is
stranger, more angular.
It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon string
banjo, mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for Son
House through Al Wilson.
I got infected by free jazz.
Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of the worst
days.

Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!

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wrote:
  I love that guitar sound, Alan. I need more of that,
  please!

Reminds me (in my limited cultural references) of the guitar on
Psychic TV?s A Pagan Day album.


Glad you?re on the mend, that was my favourite verse.

Mark


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  long covid blues

  https://youtu.be/c8zWeSeZDvM video

  i got the long covid blues
  i got the long covid blues
  any way you choose
  i got those long long covid blues

  wake up this morning in the middle of the night
  wake up this morning in the middle of the night
  looking for the sunlight sight long covid fright

  wake up in midday nothing left to lose
  wake up in midday nothing left to lose
  got those long longer longest long covid blues

  they say there's nowhere to go but down the covid
  hall
  doctor comes i said yesterday maybe had a fall
  i said maybe something else can't remember at all
  said maybe that was it maybe was a fall

  i got the long covid blues
  i got the long covid blues
  any way you choose
  i got those long covid blues

  --- >>>> *

  * although i seem to be getting well and pulling
  through
  * anyway you look the mood's a lot less blue

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[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Viola Braguesa blues and the debris of the somewhat

https://youtu.be/Xc6h2O3nO4Y video music la la

Viola Braguesa and the blues and a skip and a jump and there you
are and there we are and yes long covid returned firecely today
and this piece made me between betwen bouts this piece bade me
come forth come hither bury your face in the plankton the
diatoms the skeletal debris of the world that created you and i
returned yes mistress i will obey the nights of the round tablet
and any order that have persuant to that be given as such and
thereby lies the rub of coming forth self among the skeletal and
as deep language models show skeletal and self construction come
forth yes come forth again yes master among the same debris the
debris of the somewhat the debris of the somewhen never
somewhere always somehere always here

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Re: [NetBehaviour] live coding + net art poetry tonight life streaming

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This is fantastic, thank you so much! -

- Alan

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> Life coding by eerieear aka *Sebastian Pappalardo* combined wih Net Art
> Poetry Being Human by *Annie Abrahams* in an experimental Improvised
> Music event at WORM Rotterdam.
> Life Streamed via EulerRoom:
> https://youtu.be/h97GccsU4K8
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> From 20h30 CET with also Felipe Ignacio Noriega, Rafaele Andrade, Lam Lai
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> Excited to do this, back to the roots.
> Best
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Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

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Hi Mark,

The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is stranger,
more angular.
It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon string banjo,
mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for Son House
through Al Wilson.
I got infected by free jazz.
Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of the worst days.

Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:15 AM Mark Hancock  wrote:

> I love that guitar sound, Alan. I need more of that, please!
>
> Reminds me (in my limited cultural references) of the guitar on Psychic
> TV’s A Pagan Day album.
>
>
> Glad you’re on the mend, that was my favourite verse.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 04:48, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> long covid blues
>>
>> https://youtu.be/c8zWeSeZDvM video
>>
>> i got the long covid blues
>> i got the long covid blues
>> any way you choose
>> i got those long long covid blues
>>
>> wake up this morning in the middle of the night
>> wake up this morning in the middle of the night
>> looking for the sunlight sight long covid fright
>>
>> wake up in midday nothing left to lose
>> wake up in midday nothing left to lose
>> got those long longer longest long covid blues
>>
>> they say there's nowhere to go but down the covid hall
>> doctor comes i said yesterday maybe had a fall
>> i said maybe something else can't remember at all
>> said maybe that was it maybe was a fall
>>
>> i got the long covid blues
>> i got the long covid blues
>> any way you choose
>> i got those long covid blues
>>
>> --- >>>> *
>>
>> * although i seem to be getting well and pulling through
>> * anyway you look the mood's a lot less blue
>>
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[NetBehaviour] long covid blues

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long covid blues

https://youtu.be/c8zWeSeZDvM video

i got the long covid blues
i got the long covid blues
any way you choose
i got those long long covid blues

wake up this morning in the middle of the night
wake up this morning in the middle of the night
looking for the sunlight sight long covid fright

wake up in midday nothing left to lose
wake up in midday nothing left to lose
got those long longer longest long covid blues

they say there's nowhere to go but down the covid hall
doctor comes i said yesterday maybe had a fall
i said maybe something else can't remember at all
said maybe that was it maybe was a fall

i got the long covid blues
i got the long covid blues
any way you choose
i got those long covid blues

---  *

* although i seem to be getting well and pulling through
* anyway you look the mood's a lot less blue

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[NetBehaviour] KREATOR

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KREATOR

https://youtu.be/VYimrldZ52g video

I am this is you are we are they are the creator KREATOR of the
world. The creator of the world makes the sound of the world the
sound of the world is not present the sound of the world is not
pleasant the sound of the world is umm present the sound of the
world is unpleasant the sound of the world is not the world the
sound of the world makes the world the world is made by the
sound within the world the world is made with the sound within
itself. Karma karma karma karma karma karma . You here see
here the sound of the world which is not pleasant . The sound of
the world which is not present is not pleasant. If the sound of
the world were pleasant it would be sound for you not sound that
makes you. This sound makes you. This sound makes the world. It
is the sound which is of the world and makes the world that this
is in. This is the sound of the cry or the shriek. This is a
sound below your hearing and above your hearing. This is the
sound of the KREATOR. This is the sound of the crater sound this
is the sound of the creator sound this is the sound of the Cora
this is the sound of the Kraken the sound of the dryland Kraken
the sound of the wetland Kraken the sound of the air Kraken the
sound of the Kraken of the ocean .My sound holds the world up my
sound is the sound of the crack and the Kraken holds the world
up I hold your sound up I hold you up your sound holds me up the
cracken holds up everything . Within and without the sound is
the sound. This is the difference and the difficult of the
sound. The sound is always within the sound. The sound is always
the sound is always.

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[NetBehaviour] tremulous cool and down (2nd of the series)

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tremulous cool and down

https://youtu.be/KG8KvP7qQcc video

tonight i almost lost the virtual world software i need to get
on which means in reality losing the proper interface which kept
acting up. it was like that. it was like that and like that. and
then it came to me with hte aid of the creature that appeaars
here, tremulous and down as i so often now are am and then they
told me and nothing but then they did walk from the surface to
the air and from the air to the air and the interval and then to
the interval and they dod half land somewhere and then there was
that space and the hum of something or was it that or something
sleeping perfectly without only but a single breath and all the
others were jealous and all were invisible and neti neti yet
again not here not there, and not everywhere as well and they
were happy and then the fall and the wall and all and they they
were done with the making done with the making of it and i was
done with them and the wall and the making and all were soothing
this is all right alan this is all right be calm and thoughtful
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[NetBehaviour] https://youtu.be/lkhx2ITFNVg video

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e-mission

https://youtu.be/lkhx2ITFNVg video

jt and the ring and the impossibility of reproducing the
interiority elsewhere in the world, it's harrowing tremulous
shattering early on i knew the meaning of shard found them in
on a path here too obsidian early clary granularity yayoi from
the river fukuoka pieces in jerusalem everywhere the past always
broken as the present continues breakage, nothing is long for
this world , everything longing for the world, the shattering of
inversion & the topology of the world - sinters - ruptures -
disinetgartion alphabetics , when the text devolves, cuneiform
breaking against (these) objects , slow erosion of strokes ,
sand grains containing a whole lot of 'em , other scratchings,
formulationis, this txt rotting from the inside out, from the
outside in, from the interior to the exterior, from the exterior
in then there's the torus devolving , that is that _thing_ -
what constitutes a thing _ nothing to learn from the river bed,
everywhere carries everything, perishing, perish the thought ,
antiarticulation , not chomsky but tran duc thao investigations
into the origin of language and consciousness , infolding,
expansive geometries of concealment , ministrations , collapse ,
to be sure there will always be sound, of any fequency,
ministration, carrier, what remains , ministrations , dirts,
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[NetBehaviour] GALACTIC GUARDIANS IN SECOND LIFE RECLAIMED TERRITORY

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GALACTIC GUARDIANS IN SECOND LIFE RECLAIMED TERRITORY

https://youtu.be/huddrGVeDOk video

Like the guardians are coming to get you, and they're in there a
spaceship, and a ready to take off and come and protected
Galaxy, and they're running out of fuel and they're being
attacked by a monster, and you can sometimes you can see or hear
the monsters but anyway. I saw they're sitting in a spaceship
there. There's a male one and there's a female 1. And the both
as they take terms, you know, and watching things and.  It's
usual landing place that they've always had, and they're very
comfortable in it and remarkably comfortable in that in that
landing place, and they don't even have to look out the window
very much to see what's going on period so thislike a different
it's like a different kind of narrative that they're used to
telling because there should be some excitement in this instead
of that galactic guardians are sitting around, but that's mostly
what collector guardians do they just sit around? And I wanted
to focus on the depth.  And the tragedy of their focusing thing,
incredible sadness. They feel away from home and I wanted to
make sure that their emotion national state was very clear. And
they're very, very fragile people and a period so you have to be
careful around them. Because the galactic warriors isn't there
guardianship? You know when it's just, it's just so tiring to.
Do this that they can hardly stay away, and in fact, I don't
think they can stay awake at all. So you know, you don't don't
expect very much movement in this and they I'll take turns that
there's a Julu and there's Allen jojitas and some other debris
they're not used to asservating when no one's around and they're
stuck still and think we're not paid enough to be here and maybe
there's work over there in the other compound or something like
that and some kind of neutral ground that they're on, and
they're guarding the Galaxy, and they're not doing much because
nobody's really attacking the Galaxy, and so they're very
comfortable there. And a little bit, it looks like Palm Beach,
but it isn't somewhere in and out of space. And.  Then I'll
maybe the greater magellanic cloud is something like that. I
don't know OK. Well, hope you enjoy this report and take it for
what it is. Which is a kind of truth and depth about how we must
prepare the Earth for invaders. And what is going to look like
when they attack (how do you attack a galaxy you get a couple of
guys and there's one o n one side and one on the other side and
they they come together somewhere in the middle and that about
does it, you gotta do this when no one's looking but no one
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[NetBehaviour] Yawning Gulf

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Yawning Gulf

https://youtu.be/rGCqIRVDTqI video

Thee gulf yawns, yes, we wyll witnesse thee planet yonder
thee swallows us, so many yeee years before when theee planet
swallows us, no tales foretold, shakuhachi @ thee Library of
Congress Ingress Regress, thee daddy listening to Nieue Musick
in thee world, O Mistakes to have made 'em and not made 'em to
unmake 'em and not to have unmade 'em * this not knot theory,
she said walking to the wyndow, thee is something else and not a
moment to loose, thee understood and thee musick went on (stage)
and all jmore than that now and then


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Re: [NetBehaviour] Protostructure(s)

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Thank you so much for this! I was using the term 'protostructure' to
reference situations which are so complex that visually they seem organized
but where organization is coupled with fractals at best. I was also using
it poetically of course.
Thinking not of D but of fractals and noise. With the video, there's
coupling between camera and subjects, high wind moving the camera,
different winds moving the ducks, local linkages between ducks on or under
the surface and so forth. With the ducks themselves, it wasn't like boids
or swarms but individual submersive activities in relation to prey
movement, another regime. The more independent systems (with noise) you
have, the more irregular the movement in the small... And then there's the
issue that for me 'protostructure' also refers to an attempt to 'make
sense' of it all - and I wonder if there's a theory of 'making sense' -
Schutz's relevance theory comes to mind, but that doesn't deal with
inordinate complexities -

Downloaded the article and will follow through -

Best, Alan


On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 7:19 AM Anthony Stephenson via NetBehaviour <
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> re:
> >
> > Protostructure(s)
> >
> In parallel universes, we have  both  Assemblage and Assembly Theory,
> the latter being a “theory to be sufficiently general to apply to a
> wide variety of other systems including polymers, cell morphology,
> graphs, images, computer programs, human languages and memes, as well
> as many others” in which bio-physical reasoning seems to mix and match
> ideas found in Object-Oriented Ontology and Deleuze & Guittari.
> https://go.nature.com/3Qim0X7
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[NetBehaviour] Protostructure(s)

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Protostructure(s)

https://youtu.be/mhIsq4Qh7d0 video

everywhere everywhere one looks among those, there is
protostructure, assemblage, chaos, debris, irritability, destiny,
gatherings, impositions, remappings, noise analyses, everywhere
there is the subtlety of post-priori organization, as if the
book of nature existed, as if it were page-numbered in fact and
fantasy, and it is this gathering from which culture emerges,
just as Tran duc Thao's gesture or gesture-semantics was the
precursor of, was, language, language embodied , and here among
the startlings slight collapse of snow and ice assemblages near
the ocean on a raw day, the slightest shiver of the wind
announces itself, doubles itself, sound and sight, image and
sound, as if these were separable, united only in the signifier
of the natural at all levels, from subatomic to the universe,
tremblings, slightest and most delicate movement at times, and
everything and nothing changes, Sartre is sitting at a cafe, a
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Postmodernism (tangent) Re:apologies (Brey)

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Hi Brey,

Thank you for writing. I think there are so many terms - deconstruction is
another, phenomenology, critical , and so forth  - where the meaning is
up for grabs. When I look at Deleuze and Guattari today for example, I get
lost in what could only be (I think) metaphoricity itself. It's what makes
semantics so fascinating and so irritating at the same time. ...

Best, Alan

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 2:00 PM Brey Tucker via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> Quite on the contrary, I think I would enjoy your class very much. Seeing
> the full context of your definition for postmodernism was fascinating and I
> don't doubt it was a shared concept among a good contingent of
> intellectuals. I really liked :
>
>> Semiotic emissions of symbols which appear sourceless and undirected
>> (Disneyland effect).
>>
>
> My, now quite meta, criticism was just that the word "postmodernism" is
> awash with many definitions and contexts in what I'll jokingly refer to as
> our "modern" times. Even modern-architecture is starting to fray as a
> concrete definition.
>
> I also teach and write, (usually techno babble) to cyberpunks, architects
> and engineers, "definitioning" of terms is a verb I often use to ensure the
> act of word grounding occurs in the realms of intellectual discourse. It's
> a practice that comes from writing code where word interpretation quickly
> leads to the mind-body problem and bugs.
>
> Re:apology
> I'm sorry to hear you're having rough times. I hope this too shall pass.
>
> Cheers,
> Brey
>
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:42:14 -0800
>> From: Brey Tucker 
>> To: netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity
>> of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve (Brey Tucker)
>> Message-ID:
>> > mpoce...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I just wanted to follow up on Alan's criticism of the word use of
>> "postmodernism", which I found to be even more of a misuse of the word
>> than
>> the more obvious use in Max Herman's piece. Semantic shifts are
>> unavoidable
>> but just in case it's not widely experienced information...
>> Postmodernism's
>> word use definitively started in art, as a way to define the departure
>> from
>> French Impressionism by John Watkins Chapman back in 1870. Its most
>> agreeable definitions are in painting and architecture.
>>
>> Intellectually, in reference to society, I would argue that Max Herman's
>> use is still more applicable than South American favelas as the context of
>> the piece was centered on "modernity", especially with its identity in
>> European culture and democracy, etc. being much closer to the
>> original publication of Arnold J. Tynbee's 1939 essay that stated, "Our
>> own
>> Post-Modern Age has been inaugurated by the general war of 1914-1918".
>>
>> I would argue any use of the word "postmodern" or such variation of
>> "modernity" would require time to define its context as the word use is
>> extremely varied now across topics such as hyperreality, simulacrum and
>> objective reality. I quite enjoyed the way Max took the time to define it
>> and use it, albeit a departure from how I generally conjure postmodernism
>> in my mind.
>>
>> Alan, you're rich with great ideas and interesting conversation but I
>> would
>> have expected more of a criticism defending Machiavelli's positive
>> contributions to society with the need for acceptance of cruel realities
>> than this niche use of a common word.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brey
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>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:58:07 -0500
>> > From: Alan Sondheim 
>> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> > 
>> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity
>> > of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve
>> > Message-ID:
>> > > > pi2brr4caymwbe6dskawxhuleabmax87yvkwxboqxcv7...@mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Just want to point out I've taught and published and lectured on
>> > postmodernism, and videos I co-created with Dawja Burris dealt with the
>> > subject in El Paso and Ciudad Juarez an

[NetBehaviour] apologies

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apologies to everyone, it's been a very rough couple of days

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[NetBehaviour] Pomo

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

For what it's worth, I found the following, which was used in courses and
talks I was giving on the subject way back then. I don't want to defend it
now; it's way out of date. Thanks, Alan

ostmodern Checklist


(I used this for teaching - and still use versions of it; it's only an
outline but at least provides a basis for discussion - Alan)


>From modernity to postmodernity, the following processes occur, primarily
within post-industrial societies:


Transformation of society from industrial to service to information econ-
omy.

Transformation from analog to digital processing technologies.

Transformation from knowledge to knowledge management, and from knowledge
management to the articulation of fragmentary flows of information.

Exponential growth of knowledge and emergence of the knowledge industry.

Increased ad hoc attitudes towards labor, coupled with vocational disin-
vestment (i.e. flexiwork).

Transformation from late capitalism to ad hoc transnational managerial
capitalism and bricolage entrepreneurialism in post-industrial nations.

Weakening of the nation state and growth of bricolage governance (local
mafias).

Replacement of essentialisms by constructivisms, combined with the hard-
ening of essentialist positions as a rearguard action (i.e. backlash to
the woman's movement).

Breakdown of materialist/idealist distinctions.

Increasingly reified ethnicities, political consciousness and symbolic
capital stressing 'traditional' geographic boundaries (homelands), at
times coupled with anti-development attitudes.

Increased breakdown and reification of traditional models of public and
private (personal) relationships (sexual, civic, social, institutional).

Proliferation of entertainment forms tending towards technological ef-
fect (representations, media, programming) and distribution channels re-
sulting in the breakdown of network hegemonies (Internet diffused gov-
ernance for example).

Proliferation of information flows into the private spaces such as the
home, the body, etc.

Semiotic transformations from inscriptive (hardened, maintained, stable)
processes to fissuring (weakened, stuttering, pre-oedipal/symbolic, de-
stabilized) and fissuring regimes.

Likewise from classical matter (stabilized signifier/sememe demarcations)
to non-classical matter (problematic signifiers, significations).

Increased leakage of the signifier (excesses, supplement).

Increasing jostling of signifying regimes within information flows.

Increased incommensurabilities, including languages, teleologies, and
scripts.

Problematizing of space-time and stable categorizations.

Development of mathematics of non-classical spaces (monster curves, frac-
tals, catastrophe theory, chaos theory, eccentric or abject spaces).

Mathematico-physical inclusion of disorder.

Development of "intermaths" (massive parallel processes (Bailey)), with a
tendency towards discrete, computational, digital, mathematical develop-
ment (four-color theorem, reliance on the computer, artificial life).

Endocolonization everywhere, coupled with the manufacturing of romanti-
cisms (not only among minority ethnicities but also among the left - i.e.
the "radical" effect of Wired magazine).

Increased gaps between richer and poorer, in terms of both economic and
cultural/informational capital.

Emergence of subcultural-noise cultural phenomena, simultaneously using
micro-technologies (pirate radio) and abjuring technology altogether.

Ecological destabilizations and managerial or fundamentalist responses.

Intensification of apocalyptic and survivalist subcultures.

Increasing rhetorical/idiolectical emissions and distorted communica-
tions.

Increased problematic or property in general (including the technology of
reproduction, birthing; intellectual property; farmlands).

Increased development of _discursive fields_ and their receptors, and
their interpenetrations (hypertext, punk rock).

Simultaneously totalization of universal (computational) languages and
functional idiolectical autonomies, the commodification of idiolects
(rants, serial murders, dualities).

A = A (Shelling's identity, totality) replaced by 0 = {X: x not-= x} (the
null set as equivalent to the set of those x not equal to themselves -
displacement and slippage).

Semiotic emissions of symbols which appear sourceless and undirected
(Disneyland effect).

Stabilized "rigid" objects replaced by part-objects, incompletions,
fragments.

Transformation from cultural hegemonies taken for granted (with their
associated margins) to competitive multiculturalisms within hegemonic
regimes.

Advent of microelectronics expanding the tacit environment of the body,
tending towards full (seamless) virtual realities.

Seamless virtual realities as the current _horizon_ of the technological
subject.

Destabilization of world economies coupled with exponential population
growth.

Increased reduction of DNA variability, increased toxicity of the planet.

Massive plant and animal extinctions.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve (Brey Tucker)

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Brey,

I'm sorry you found it a misuse. You'll find references to Toynbee and
social movements; I don't have the references here at this point, but some
were from Latin America. It was used widely to indicate social movements
and informal economies as well as cultural transformations. For you there
are agreeable definitions, they aren't for me. When I taught postmodernism
(and I'm sure you'd find the course a horror) we focused on art, yes - I
taught in art depts. - but the wider social movements were critical. The
"word use" started in a lot of different disciplines, I don't know what an
"agreeable definition" is - perhaps agreeable for you, perhaps we should
take a vote? In any case, I found Max Herman's piece dismissive and
conservative in a way that for me, and for the writers I was teaching,
would have been problematic. I did edit an issue of Art Papers way back
then (Art/crit mag from Atlanta still going strong) on Postmodernism, which
certainly went way beyond art per se; it might be available somewhere. If
you find I'm misusing the word, I'll defer to you at this point. I do
remember using Leotard among other theorists btw at the time - I might be
able to dig out the essay or biblio.

Alan

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:44 PM Brey Tucker via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I just wanted to follow up on Alan's criticism of the word use of
> "postmodernism", which I found to be even more of a misuse of the word than
> the more obvious use in Max Herman's piece. Semantic shifts are unavoidable
> but just in case it's not widely experienced information... Postmodernism's
> word use definitively started in art, as a way to define the departure from
> French Impressionism by John Watkins Chapman back in 1870. Its most
> agreeable definitions are in painting and architecture.
>
> Intellectually, in reference to society, I would argue that Max Herman's
> use is still more applicable than South American favelas as the context of
> the piece was centered on "modernity", especially with its identity in
> European culture and democracy, etc. being much closer to the
> original publication of Arnold J. Tynbee's 1939 essay that stated, "Our own
> Post-Modern Age has been inaugurated by the general war of 1914-1918".
>
> I would argue any use of the word "postmodern" or such variation of
> "modernity" would require time to define its context as the word use is
> extremely varied now across topics such as hyperreality, simulacrum and
> objective reality. I quite enjoyed the way Max took the time to define it
> and use it, albeit a departure from how I generally conjure postmodernism
> in my mind.
>
> Alan, you're rich with great ideas and interesting conversation but I
> would have expected more of a criticism defending Machiavelli's positive
> contributions to society with the need for acceptance of cruel realities
> than this niche use of a common word.
>
> Cheers,
> Brey
>
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>> The modern world has problems.  No longer ancient and starting sort of
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[NetBehaviour] Blues for Al Wilson

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Blues for Al Wilson

https://youtu.be/nao6cvwrRpo video

i keep thinking of you way before Canned Heat, whenyou were in
Cambridge and I was driving you around and you were teaching me
patiently the blues, especially the Delta, history aand it took,
they took , my breath away and i type as usual w/ closed eyes
remembering you and your apartment and the garbage inside and
out and the knocking on thd door and feces in the hall and all
that was going on and backing up through the redlight again and
worried about and know you were the real thing, not your depth
of knowledge but the way you carried music in your being and
what an influence that had on me and my guitar playing which was
changed forever and you showing h=me how to tune and tune and
then there were so many others around the time and I breathed
the blues, Delta mainly and then knew it wasn't my music but for
me was and still is the fundamental american music, something i
could never have conceived of, and al of those great musicians,
Son House who I was so honored to meet, and on and on and that
had nothing for me to do with reading scales but playing,
immersing inthe music , and everything changed for me and then
of course Europe and Rafi Zabor and there were those t=really
early albums and the breakp=up of my first marriage and i kept
casting myself adrift of myself and only in the last quartr of a
century have found any peace, and i'm still playing Al, not
Alan, Al, I'm still playing and my life turned then and you
help0ed even though Fahey disliked what I was doing, what I was
doing, what I was doing, too much repetition he said too much
repetition and there went that record deal alh=though then there
was that early record of mine, Riverboat? maybe, before ESP
where I settled in & today they still have doubts about me, and
Al, I miss those days, and when I see you in those videos now
Cannaed Heat, i sense you were still in that same world, three's
a recording of you talking about the blues as well, and hearing
your voice speaking the bottom drops out for me and I'm utterly
lost then found again


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Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi,

Just want to point out I've taught and published and lectured on
postmodernism, and videos I co-created with Dawja Burris dealt with the
subject in El Paso and Ciudad Juarez and I have no idea how you're using
the word or attacking it - it wasn't facetious, it was concerned among
other things, with informal economies and South America favelas etc.It's a
complex socio-economic subject and its effects cover issues such as
migration, homelessness, around the world. I just don't think you've read
deeply into the subject; for example scientific methodology was an integral
part of the discussion.

-  Best, Alan

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netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

>
> +++
>
> The modern world has problems.  No longer ancient and starting sort of
> from scratch, no longer medieval with short lifespans and a simple
> church-state duopoly, and certainly no longer indigenous in direct mutual
> dialogue with nature like a woven fabric, our problems are unique enough to
> have their own name: "modernity."
>
> An idea, rather facetious, cropped up over fifty – yes, fifty – years ago
> to call European culture "post-modern" instead of modern.  This idea
> suggested that although modernity may have had many serious problems they
> no longer mattered because their "time" had passed.  The time of
> constitutions, including democratic ones, a public sphere of communication
> (with greater or lesser freedom of speech), the idea of rights codified by
> laws which were often upheld even when some official or strongperson didn't
> like it, and the reality of biological nature and scientific method, well
> those things were all passé.  Not only did they no longer require any
> effort or attention, they had never warranted it, being nothing more than
> rewritings of the tooth fairy tale.  There is no quarter under your pillow,
> they said, only lies.
>
> We shouldn't be surprised now that in 2024 the USA is fairly likely to
> vote an autocrat into the presidency and democracy is being routed like
> yesterday's news the world over.  Autocrats from Tallahassee to Budapest
> crow about being post-truth, their PR consultants throwing terms like
> post-Enlightenment around like confetti, and the general mass of ordinary
> people – the only force that has ever allowed democracy to function – has
> nothing to go by except tired populism and hyper-specific outrage.  Susan
> Neiman explains how Foucault carried this "who cares" attitude forward from
> Schmitt, who did so for Nietzsche, who is from – well, who?  Neiman's book
> explains why the millions of factions within the left and center can only
> blame each other for being not left enough, too left, or left in the wrong
> way, and cannot reliably organize political coalitions capable of defeating
> autocracy in elections.  Paul de Man is dancing under a giant disco ball in
> his grave.
>
> The boring view of Habermas that democracy is still real and matters, as
> do rights, constitutions, laws, and the public sphere of communication that
> articulates them all, that he pointed out very early on with Foucault – who
> he called way back in the 80's "a young conservative" and basically a
> hypocritical con artist like Freud or Bernays – well this practical
> reality-based view is now defined mainly by its incredible confusion and
> hopelessness.  How could democracy deteriorate so badly, everywhere, when
> we thought we were way past it?  I guess the European mind thought by
> ignoring democracy and pretending it didn't exist it would be protected
> forever, like a bee in amber.
>
> +++
>
> Paul de Man, who championed postmodernism so effectively out of Yale early
> on, was, we now know, a terrible fascist sympathizer and anti-Semite.  He
> knew very well, just as every bully on every playground knows, that if you
> confuse the people who are supposedly guarding ethical norms, the grown-ups
> and goody-goodies, you can get away with a lot more terrible shit.  A
> super-confusing, pretentious, hyper-abstract rhetoric on which to base the
> thousands of PhD's being handed out in the post-civil-rights era that could
> out-compete Marxism for clever ambitious scholars' affection was badly
> needed and postmodernism was it.  It has, moreover, worked like a charm.
>
> One can argue it was so crucially necessary, and therefore worthwhile, to
> nullify Marxism (also riddled with flaws, delusions, and outright lies)
> during the Cold War of 1948-1991 that any amount of duplicity or even
> violence was justified.  Even if you grant that, by a stretch of utter
> contortion, there is no escaping the brutal fact that a spited face still
> needs a nose both to smell and not frighten the neighbors' kids or everyone
> at the dinner party much less watching TV.  Autocracy, not the Marxist with
> a PhD, was the real adversary; and that lovely principle has not gone
> anywhere despite the wall falling and big business celebrating its myriad
> 

[NetBehaviour] the composing, or flute, or doublets, beautiful music, or 8'56"

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

the composing, or flute, or doublets, beautiful music, or 8'56"

https://youtu.be/ZFiK9NiCBFU video, music

the doublets and triplets carefully you note them
and note their astonishing rapport with the interior of vessels
on the seas carrying vessels on the seas and then, "the then,"
the scene, the "seen," shifts and you are hearing your other
which you have already murmured, the meristome, which you have
always cultivated, deep within you, and within others, and other
yous, and other them, and you know you've arrived at a place
you've never left, and youve never returned to that place, which
you've never left, glassworld, harboring and harbouring, loam,
fold, arrived where you never left, the when

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[NetBehaviour] quick, haptic, flutter, outtakes and seas

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quick, haptic, flutter, outtakes and seas

https://youtu.be/kYoHuqciz4w video

eyes closed i say what i might mean to say. my left thumb, no
right thumb, is strained. i'm feeling incrasingly weak.
yesterday and last night i slept avery little wake time. looking
for a clinic at this point. ruptured sleep and wakefulness is
unproductive. with my eyes closed ican see myself better. these
bits of video are remnants, as scattered as my way of being in
the world. i keep hoping for test results. the birds, the ocean
birds, are doing well this time of year. the ground moves up and
down, camera dysfunction which also took a while to correct. i
am awake at this point alone here during the gray day anyway.
reading a book on soccer, football in other words, statsticis
and the integration of the spart with computer technology. some
teams have twenty-five programmers/analysts.  i can't figure out
my exhaustion. the broken, no , broken, not the broken, just
broken sleep leads to resolute in the small for a short while.
we're somewhat on our own here. there's a clinic in Boston,
maybe something here, have to lok into it. our cars warning
lights, two of them, won't turn off, i want the highway and it
needn't be my way. at least the waves are smaller on land than
on the see, no buffeting for me, just the camera, see.
exhaustion leads to poor philosophizing and i imagine that was
always the case for others who drew out their texts in the sand
hardened into protocols and etneral analyses of the momentary,
the specific, the general, : once one grasps the inconeivable,
the deeply inconceivable, universe, as ungraspable, as
exhaustion like mine for the dna protocols messing us about, not
to mention the destruction not of earth, but _surface_ - then
nothing but annihilation in which sartre's existentialist
encounters with the waiter hold as much gravitas as conceivable
- the rest is exhaustion, mind at its limit/ations, pathways to
nowhere, cessation  memory, absence, gone ,

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Re: [NetBehaviour] The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Thank you so much,
war has all of us, as it were as it has invaded our minds, our dreams...

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 1:07 PM Edward Picot  wrote:

> Wonderful writing, Alan.
>
> On 02/02/2024 12:49, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour wrote:
> >
> >
> > The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind
> >
> > https://youtu.be/XYGaM33rN24 video
> >
> > And they said who are you and I said what am I period behold I.
> > Stand here on the banks of the sea and water into water and
> > water onto water into water. I connect with good God what's the
> > horizontal? With Thee Palestine water on to water. And I say
> > I've been brought here to say.  That I can no longer play. I can
> > no longer see the music of the Lord. I can no longer hearing
> > music at all. The wind carries it away. The wind carries the
> > violence into the violence the wind and the violence carried
> > away and carries them away. All of them they are carried away
> > and we should stop this fury.  Now we must stop this fury. Now
> > listen to The Sound of the wind . it has Always been The Sound
> > of the wind before You & I were born on the Earth before Human
> > kind. Was on the Earth before the Earth had plants and animals
> > before the Earth had life. Itself period there was always the
> > way end period the wind takes the song away.  Period the wind
> > says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death and
> > wind says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death
> > among you period you must walk home across the water. You must
> > sink into the water. You must swim across the water, but no, you
> > must stay on the land the one says you must stay in the land.
> > And seek peace because without peace, the song will be forever
> > held in prison . will be forever held in prison period .
> >
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[NetBehaviour] The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind

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The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind

https://youtu.be/XYGaM33rN24 video

And they said who are you and I said what am I period behold I.
Stand here on the banks of the sea and water into water and
water onto water into water. I connect with good God what's the
horizontal? With Thee Palestine water on to water. And I say
I've been brought here to say.  That I can no longer play. I can
no longer see the music of the Lord. I can no longer hearing
music at all. The wind carries it away. The wind carries the
violence into the violence the wind and the violence carried
away and carries them away. All of them they are carried away
and we should stop this fury.  Now we must stop this fury. Now
listen to The Sound of the wind . it has Always been The Sound
of the wind before You & I were born on the Earth before Human
kind. Was on the Earth before the Earth had plants and animals
before the Earth had life. Itself period there was always the
way end period the wind takes the song away.  Period the wind
says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death and
wind says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death
among you period you must walk home across the water. You must
sink into the water. You must swim across the water, but no, you
must stay on the land the one says you must stay in the land.
And seek peace because without peace, the song will be forever
held in prison . will be forever held in prison period .


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[NetBehaviour] The Cries and Crisis Cantata

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

The Cries and Crisis Cantata

https://youtu.be/K49H6eBKuAs video / audio

This is the result of years of working with supercollider, the
despair and aporia of war, the violence of everyday life, this
war cantata, this, which coalesced as such. Please listen
through.

"Da brennt ihre Fahne mitten im Feind, und sie jagen ihr nach."
"Their flag is aflame in the enemy's midst, and they gallop
after."

- from Rilke's Cornet, trans. Norton.

"Wer, wenn ich schriee, hoerte mich denn aus der Engel
Ordnungen?"
"Who, if I cried, would hear me among the angelic orders?"

- from Rilke's Duino, trans. Leishman and Spender.


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[NetBehaviour] wa, afternoon musing and apologies*

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

*apologies: I feel I should post a lot less on this list; there
are very few posting here at all. It's my daily practice to work
in a continuous fashion, but not my intention to create bloatware.
I'll slow up or stop unless something life-changing comes along
that needs attention. I note that other lists have increased at
times, as the wars plural need our attention and, for the list,
perhaps mutual care. Please let me / us know what you think; I'd
hate to see the list become moribund, particularly now that the
world is becoming increasingly cruel. Thanks, Alan

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wa, afternoon musing

https://youtu.be/xQnY5X1jlis dutar

when memory is perfect, there is no memory. azure and I found an
old school yearbook from the 19th century, with lots of
signatures, one of them mentioned the school. within a few hours
we figured out who owned the yearbook, what year it was from,
and what subsequently happened to the person who owned it; we
traced her from new england to west virginia, we found the
graves of her and her husband, we found images of the graves,
everything and nothing is available, the world is flat, memories
are fundamentally digital, interspersed between mind and
network, shuttled, everywhere, for all time; what's not there,
is not. this flatness scales everything; the digital is entirely
transformable, manipulated; it carries a set series of symbols
and protocols, smears and tears are non-existent, even in their
digital reproduction. we move from the earth and the grit of the
earth to clearing our screen. this is necessary and accessible,
food comes from elsewhere, as does polluted air and the
consequences of politics. perfect memory online is a click away
and a click erased and a click found elsewhere and a click found
in the company of others, of strangers, of protocols, of hard
drives and as such of course contain none of the debris that
someone like braudel might have used to reconstruct a culture.
storage cleansed is invisible, totes the invisible, with the
occasional diagnostics. but the point or plateau is, we ride
these surfaces, we inhabit them as protocols and ghosts (i know
you're there, the screen has changed), our emanations are always
already duplicable. we are in other words superfluous, or in
other words, nodes, smell and taste and atmosphere absent or
regenerated (everything is ultimately regenerated). The world
becomes protocol, RFC (request for comments), simultaneously
flat and infinitely dimensional, both meeting in a series of
rules necessary for communication. all of this is trite, is
evident, but sometimes, at least for me, i have to remind myself
- for example i'm staring at nothing but pixels which basically
exist within the aegis of absent bodies. in the past myths and
ceremonies were intertwined, as were kennings and other
formalisms familiar to all, all within and without the surface,
all promulgating communication; the kenning became the postage
stamp. the flat earth (not my phrase, everything here is as i
keep insisting, already known) carries everything and nothing to
itself, flat but infinitely dimensional, multiply connected,
striated with protocol layers transforming the protocols close
to the speed of light in media. when we meet one another in
'real life' (as if that were always an option one way or
another), we carry the ghosts, the auras of onlines presences
with us. no wonder Trump succeeds, no wonder it takes wars,
poverty, bodies, plagues, Ballard's crashlands, to shatter our
complacency (complacent in _this regard,_ we're hardly
complacent elsewhere, perhaps more engaged politically for
example), we're hardly here, hardly there, always on the move,
hardly on the move... i hardly wrote this, hardly read this,
hardly am present, i'm fairly old now, perhaps i've died ...

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[NetBehaviour] universe no sound sound

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universe no sound sound

https://youtu.be/u_PsCoI0O-E video

listening to the universe no sound, cosmic murmuration,
listening to the sound reverberating from the 90 year old
sarangi with, as far as one know, original strings, almost
ropes, difficult to play, one lets the instrument play itself,
vocalize, a darker urgent voice, a voice of breathing, the bow
follows the commands of this instrument, not that of the player,
the sounds are those which the instrument desires, speaks from,
speaks with, so much history, pain, the ending of breathing for
all of us, the beginning of the cosmos, this is what has always
been heard, remnants of raga and rasa, not even that, the
eruption of noise, speaking from the earth's grit, i listen but
i listen away, i turn away from the sound, the sound continues,
the universe is on its own, has always been on its own, more and
more the inconceivable is inconceivable, layer after layer of
illuminated darkness, scatterings, we are utterly a line to
ourselves, hubris to even consider comprehension, measurements
here and there, nothing coheres for long, languor, what
particles, what waves, what particulates, what waves of
particles, particles, of waves, what particulates of particles,
what what what what, this piece which took so much out of me,
neither better nor worse for it, an internal frame for
presuppositions, nothing escapes, trauma is inconceivably flat,
what's heard or scene is less than any of the imperceptible, now
this is the sound of wood, metal, leather, hair, this split
split moment of the organic and inorganic, diminution,
unplacement, unregarding, alan dojoji swaying, thinking,
non-existent, thinned, intervals everywhere, breathing nothing,
neti neti, Dismay - the propping up of the head by the hands,
elbows on the table, an


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[NetBehaviour] here

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

here

https://youtu.be/eXAnXZw6O4A video

lying on my back i never thought this would happen

gone. in the distance chattering. night and day we hear it,
chattering. no idea whatsoever what it is. it just _is_ and just
_like that._ my head falls to my knees, exhausted, what was that
word, that sentence, what language (no one speaks around here,
you and I speak, our love, our love)how thin our bones are! how
thin our faces are! how thin our minds, togther, conjoined ! how
thin the world now , now - how very thick the world !

uf nt fubgers ryb agaubs tnt iwbm tebsuib abd gruefm uf n
fubgers ryb agaubst gers uf we ca=kasom ab aknist yb==

unbearabke delight .forever gone, forest gone, stream brooklet
they're dried because they're not dirty. they might be scabbed
and crusty, red/black in that sense, uneasy to look at. "all
feeling's gone from them" he said in against the dried and
flaked skin, edges still damp, messy from the action about a
hundred meters over there.my posture left me / i fell hard
against something, a body, our teeeth, both of us, raw against
the gravel. the dawn was dust in our eyes. i could no longer
think. the sickness got hold of me. what was once a plateau was
now furrowed, my mind and its contusions . just like that and i
knew when i spoke i didn't know what ened here and began
elswhere, unable to think or write and wonder the dark red
retangle when i closed my eyes maybe blood or something else,
the black background in the center WHER THESE WORDS LIE remained
the same, on odd combination where darkness stroke a semaphore
about half a meter off the ground. the plane undulated or did.
with the trees gone, there were rivulets in the storm cut into
the hill now barren with once dust and roamed there a cheetah
within the grove over the hill, plankton . the slightest
dampness alwas indiates the presence of death. we knew it was a
known fact . one of the few.for a long time we worried about our
teeth, that was a while ago. not much to go on, ourneighbor on
the other side of the fence said. the last sliver of light
gleamed off absolutely nothing, the earh now a blotter absorbed
* we knew nothinng would *arise* *rose* again -what was once
fiction written by the living became fact unwritten by the dead
. the depth of our daily lives is inconceivable, all the way
down within the cthonic , silver plate glittered over there just
for a moment, my writing got worse in the cirumstances whatever
they were. an odd word in the singular, 'the circumstance of our
death' for example : what on earth!i wrotethis before it all
happened but as everyone knows, the smell of death carries
bakwards from the future, envelops us, not as a warning, but as
a circumambulation moving in that awkward and untoward direction
.i write , writhe, hands slide left or write, catechism , their
names from 40K BC already unutterably lost, unutterably.this has
gone on too far, too shrot , too high, too low, too small, too
right, too left (below)to the left of the path the ruins of
food, to the right, bedding where the flakes of dreams remained
. no above, no below, no going forward, no going back .

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[NetBehaviour] (no subject)

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help .

http://www.alansondheim.org/cp.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/help.mp4

fictional help on the high seas
help ! 2004
the Coral Princess did not and does not need help
it never did need help, C. P. does not need help now
it's a fiction about help on the high seas
the short moving image of C. P. is jut that, a fiction
it's a made up story about a ship needing help
the C. P. has never as far as I know needed help
the C. P. was traveling and minding its own business
in the middle of the night a peaceful C. P. on the seas
the seas most likely may have possibly been an ocean
i'm sure it must be fun to travel on the C. P.
i sure would like to (travel on the C. P.)
i needed help and that C. P. never needed help
as far as i know we never needed help
that needing help by C. P. and me

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[NetBehaviour] wealth and poverty make me sick

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https://www.dw.com/en/worlds-richest-five-men-double-wealth-oxfam/a-67979934?mobileApp=true


do check this out - while the wars increase and the planet
topples. I saw a show recently on "superyachts" which are unbearable, 
unncessary, polluting, and can cost hundreds of millions, but who's

counting?

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[NetBehaviour] silence

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silence

https://youtu.be/VK5b0L3sHWc video

They said this mystery shall never cease:
The priest promotes war, & the soldier peace.

- Blake, Rossetti Ms. xvi (Sampson)

sweep sweep sweep sweep of silence of dead silence least not in
years, and not a dead silence, but a live one. The rare dead
silence here in the forest,, coming to grips with the simple the
quiet meditation of radiation luminous and far in the background
just a glimmer of light, soothing and kind, Green Tara perhaps
closed or half-closed lotus or platform then within the world of
the forest prayers or none of this cleansing my mind of any of
this steeped emptiness of emptiness but the light the murmur the
whisper the warning the enlargement, crepuscular, what is, is,
is is, sweep my ignorance, the forest, wanderers, what of
abstentions, mudra, what of light (what i left out has left me
in) and the three baskets four baskets elders' verses, what of
this, what of bell, what of color, what of baskets what of the
mirror, Sachuest, West Virginia, Perth, stromatolite, juncture,
what of within within without without, of the cessation, of
renunciation, envelopment, return, retinue, grove, mandala,
garden, jewels, star-crossed, ring, vajra, platform, path,
space, number, within, upon, beneath, without, Gaza, Ukraine,
America, Yemen, Taiwan, China, America, Jordan, hosts of nations
of hosts, nations of hosts of nations, sweep sweep sweep sweep
of sweep sweep sweep sweep of sweep sweep sweep sweep of sweep
sweep sweep sweep

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[NetBehaviour] Nepali sarangi, snow (for Connie Bostic, rest in peace)

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Nepali sarangi, snow (for Connie Bostic, rest in peace)

https://youtu.be/sf8rPD4y0FQ video

four strings in three courses, amazing instrument related to the
sarinda. only recently could i play it at all. the strings meet
at a point, the distance between them is small even at the upper
end, three of them may be badminton strings, the fourth is
metal, and carries most of the melody, the bow is very thin (at
least on mine), a bookseller had it on her desk and knew little
about it, it hung on her wall, the bridge is angled, there are
some examples of the music online, the sarangi is very very
responsive, i use a heavy rosin, on youtube you can find more
traditional playing of course, i even found examples of the
pithkiavlin at one point there, everything is there, nothing is
there, we are there, sooner or later my music will crash and
burn and we hope these instruments survive, it was very cheap,
it's been well-played, not a tourist sarangi, and now i play and
perhaps we listen to the war no longer war but wars and i fear
for everything and just now through the walls here a woman
picking up her violin from years ago and playing again, not very
well, she works in blogging i think, it was snowing out a few
minutes ago and the sky is dark, paris st-germain is ahead, it's
half-time, i am reminded of Joyce's The Dead, i write no longer,
i am bad at life, better with music, best in silence and


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Opal Whiteley

https://youtu.be/_bg07m8ss3o video

thinking of Opal Whiteley, walking in most likely the only
remaining old growth hemlock forest stand in West Virginia, a
small area of Cathedral State Park "Cathedral State Park is the
states largest old-growth forest and contains one of the largest
stands of virgin hemlock in West Virginia. Designated a National
Natural Landmark, this 133-acre park offers sanctuary for these
ancient trees, as well as 170 species of trees, ferns and
wildflowers. During spring and summer, Cathedral State Park
offers excellent hiking on its three miles of trails and unique
photography opportunities." Azure Carter video from the early
2000s, otherwise new sound mixed with old

a bleak day today, too many harrowing stories, i wake in brain
fog, look around, sure it's foggy out, the sound is there though
mixed with two low frequency dan moi wake to darker days than
even i could conceive, should that be spelled cd indicative of
the urgency, found my memo list gone in panix, did i do that, no
gremlins possible, perhaps in the middle of the night always
stress now, always just when the world couldn't fall off a
higher cliff it teeters begging for more elevation


synonyms for parallels for recondite


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[NetBehaviour] o song

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o song

https://youtu.be/8zJKTPUBbIc video

i am thinking of you o song that conjures up the dan moi of the
four leaves, before me and after me above me and below me to one
side and other side within me and without me to me distant and
farreaching soud to me before you and after you above youo and
below you to one side and the other side within you and without
you, above us and below us before us and after us always before
us and always after us this disappearance and reappearance this
falling and rising this humming and singing this thinking and
forgetting this remembered and forgotten this coming and going
this coming and this going this falling and rising this falling
and rising this falling o song remember me this falling and
rising this rising and falling o song remember me

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[NetBehaviour] Around the Nine Men's Misery

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Around the Nine Men's Misery

https://youtu.be/05mwzngAV5I video

Apparently the oldest war monument in the United States, 1676,
in the woods near a monastery, Cumberland, Rhode Island. Roger
Williams was still alive. When we arrived, no one was there. The
monument is tended at times, clear from the flags and plastic
flowers. In 1928, the original monument was replaced by a stone
cairn to stop desecration (one of the soldiers was said to be
"unusually large with a double row of teeth"  leading to
attempts to remove the body. (Wikipedia). We've visited the site
several times, there in the woods, among moss, trees, stones,
water, some paths, oddly isolated. Shakuhachi in the cold and
wind, less visible in the image, but interfering with
embouchure. I kept thinking modal after the fact, but I have no
such proficiency. The sound resonated, there were woodpeckers,
chickadees, squirrel, scuttlings, flappings. Wind, the rain held
off. Returned from a nearby library sale with 3 Marx, 2 Anais
Nin.

(If you are interested in Narragansett studies related to the
area, you might want to read The Tomaquag Museum Edition of
Roger Williams, A Key into the Language of America, edited by
Dawn Dove, Sandra, Robinson, Lorien Spears, Dorothy Herman Papp,
and Kathleen J. Bragdon - an amazing work bringing new insight
into William's original book, along with information about the
contemporary Narragansett. The commentary is brilliant, a double
commentary, since Williams' original text itself is commentary;
this edition expands and grounds the whole. A visit to the
museum itself is very worthwhile.)

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[NetBehaviour] 2023/4 Slow Helium, New Years, Better Lives

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2023/4 Slow Helium, New Years, Better Lives

https://youtu.be/tgj3U06LtqA video

Slow helium birthday balloons up for six weeks in our place,
still dancing among the air currents, endurance, performance,
understanding elasticity, aerodynamics, persistence, static
electricity, radiative heating, the dance dance, the slow
dance, world gone sad and mad, hoping for a new dawn, slow
times as well

"Ear, school balloon nose to and Ear,
Ear, kiss pending balloon raise Ear,
balloon they, raise and they,, they,
employees tongue, they, balloon they,
balloon  to to and and nose named
named named balloon balloon to named
back from scattered monitors
position balloon throat to  and
she, they, to kiss balloon they, and
sweet swing swole balloon swvoi
to to balloon nose named to to raise
nose to was to balloon balloon to pending
balloon now listen to this tune and
named to to to pay pay to balloon to
raise balloon and Ear, attend Ear to to
concert and would love to balloon
in clarity of true and proper
encompassed balloon and slow dance"

and the throat ear, the balloon was pending
and moving every so slowly in many rhythms
and fascinating, all with the joy of it,
our home accompaniment, and soon the joy
overcame us with the beauty of the world
among all beings, all objects, all flowing
kindness in the midst of darker times

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[NetBehaviour] Blast 24

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Blast 24

https://youtu.be/JdVjmrrho0M video

The world lights up, not with the warmth of spring, but with
something somewhere occuring, turning ash, turning gray matter
into gray matter. It exhausts itself. It's furious. It
continues. It speaks crudely. It's the same old stories of
apocalypse armageddon; you know what? these happen without any
force at all. This dark night we go less than gentle, this dark
night unbearable bright. The light is monstrous, is it not.
Every night I don't sleep, go over my faults and mistakes,
errors and wrong turns, one by one by one, sleep collapses me.
How selfish our stories are that we tell ourselves. How selfish
our stories are that we tell others. How selfish their stories
are that they tell us. How powerful their stories are that they
tell others. _I am come among us._ Daily I wait, await,
cessation. It's this blinding light, light of a thousand, a
million suns. It is that sound which is unheard at the moment of
arrival, that sound without departure. I never get the last note
in. There is none, neither this nor that, always - _always_ -
expulsion. THIS is the sound of THAT. This _churns._


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[NetBehaviour] Army (for my mother)

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Army (for my mother)

http://www.alansondheim.org/army.jpg

(Eyes wide closed) So this photograph was probably taken in the
summer of 1960, after graduating highschool and on the way to
Brown University in the fall; for the summer, I went to Israel
for two months on a tour of sorts, not entirely, I think this is
from then, Israel was 12 years old, that's all, formed out of
the ashes tending towards mor ashes, more war and paranoia on
all sides kibbutzim seemed the way to go and on and on and on,
and we went around the country, from Eilat to far north, I think
that's when Syria shot at our boat on the Galil but too far
away, nothing happened, but that was the story of the day,
soommething happened but nothing happened. So there was a lot of
military gear on the market, bought this shirt, and I look half
like an altar boy and half like an altered boy. So that was
that. On the way back I wore an Isareli general's outfit that I
bought, but enough of that. Now I look with horror at this
image, twisted as well, I seem innocent, certainly would never
never have given in to the violence against Palestine today, and
that's why this is so twisted for me, what was I thinking but a
sense of loose affiliation, what happened though even then and
ovder the years, inconceivable! Palestine today I think is
Warsaw then, there were German youths coming to Israel, again 12
years after, to try to understand what had happened in the
Holcaust; they seemed frightened but determined, tragic, now it
is our turn, this emblem of something that today and even then I
assume now, so inconceivablye (I keep using that word0 twisted,
the tragedy violating every body every belief and yet neti neti
not this not that, not here, it's not here, and we can protest
and Hsrael is ruled by a horror on top of all the other horrors,
this horror with bombs and guns, and I would have thought,
inconeivable. The image twists me around, if I had known I would
have fld the country never to return (I did return twice), I
would have kept going elsewhere. This sounds incredibly
superficial, but living it as it were, it wasn't, couldn't have
been, is not now. As if our fingers, hands, arms are cut off, we
can do nothing, we are there, protest poprest protest write
wtrite write and the inuman violence goes on and on, Israel in
the charge of a madman, but not one, but others, a whole party
of them, more on the West Bank, a human plague of violence, and
I can hardly, honestly, look at this photograph at this point,
the now of it burned in rubbled, burned in the bombings, an
uneasy allegory of Auschwitz and other mass killings, mass
graves everywhere in the world. What on earth, literally on
earth, this earth, all we have, what are we up to? When will
this end? What have all of us done, what do humans do, what do
mammals do, what happened to the sun? the moon? the stars? the
enormity of the universe's beginning? Gods drowned in the
Jordan, I tried to believe then, in that time, that twist, (and
the usual question, what is there to day, and what is to be
done, and where are we in this world, where are any of us,
where? why? when? "And if not now, when?" -

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[NetBehaviour] The Old World of the Future

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The Old World of the Future

http://www.alansondheim.org/theoldworldofthefuture.jpg

Sometimes words are just a stub for the real; sometimes images
are just an expansion or grounding of words, and of course,
neither, neti neti and so on and so forth, in this case, so
forward and backward, industrial meets the expanding sun
blurring and consuming the ashes of the already ashen earth.
O Grandeur of the industrial matrix! O Grandeur of the Matrix
itself! This is the same sun that could not, ever, cut through
the cloud and despair of our species quickly heading down the
road to Armageddon, everyone catching up with nuclear for
example, what _clansing,_ what new species, what vanishes.
Perhaps the sauropods had war we never dreamed of. Perhaps a
sentence ends with a preposition with nothing to change for.
Perhaps language is nothing to bask in. The photograph is a
glimmer of the infinitely small as if 19th-century industrial
expansion led somewhere desirable, In the midnight of the day,
everything - sun soon, bridge, water, building - _looms._
Humanity's new role is to go forth whenever and whatever it can.

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[NetBehaviour] New Heaven

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New Heaven

https://youtu.be/JlnSdUzp4jU video

Within the planar bankruptcy of the world as it exists now, the
grit of heavenchemical deterioration medicinal avalanche of gods
true drugs always already at the beck and call. Oh I can't see,
now I will talk // // // And hope for all of our sake that
everything comes through as it would wearing the proper clothing
as if we were in the ballroom which is senseless out of doors
without shelter without walls without music without anything
whatsoever set reminders of our previous lives believe beneath
the earth when we were very very young beneath the earth when we
could describe the earth beneath the earth when the earth was
always already in a state of disappearance beanie sierras when
we were moving not of our own free will but through the kindness
and salience of microbial life . Always wear it like this always
wears comes back . Now I will close my eyes and you are aware of
me . Now I will think of the sound from BBC of the unimaginable
horror of continuous deterioration . Now I will give up my past
my belief and work its way into the dirt. Now I will lie and lie
. Now is never now. By the time you read this we will all
undergo that thange that transformation into unholy angles in
flight bright light sight above the recompensate of absolute
lack of restitution . Now I will speak agai . // He speaks again
// Of what do I speak he says ? Of what do i speak I say
speaking for him . I am speaking for him at the distance of 5mm.
I am speaking for him at the distance of 7mm. I am speaking for
him at the distance of seven kilometers. I am speaking for him
at the distance of seven mega parsecs. I am uncomfortable with
this as I flatten against the imaginary of the universe which we
carry within ourselves. This is what I say when I speak. It is
so useless. It is so useless. I open my mouth and in floats no
no take that back take that back absolutely take that back. I
open my mouth and is there and wait a minute oh there is a body
incoming. No that's that doesn't sound right that sounds
straight . I open my mouth and there is a flux. There is
definitely a flux. Now I will write again my fingers on the keys
pressing against see the building on the floor in the building
on the floor of the uilding in the building resting ono the
rubble of four centuries resting on the strata of two billion
years stromatolites and others resting on the arapace of plate
tectonics . Now I will speak. I will declaim of molten core lava
of iron of diamond of inert materials of the pressures which we
apply to ourselves from the interior of the earth carrying the
weight the carapace of life on our back on the surface. Scraping
the surface. Scraping the surface as one would age kick atriss.
As one would a scar. As one would an embolism. As one would
nothing at all but scratches on a stone 2 million years ago when
we began just when we began to when we began to when will you be
going to when we began to. Stop dictating . Now I will continue
this pressure and within a year or a decade or slightly more or
much less, this will stop. This will grind to a halt. This will
absolutely grind to a halt. This will stop. This will end, this
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Paysage

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Thank you greatly!

Best, Alan -

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 6:48 PM Simon Mclennan via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Lovely poem
>
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 21:05 Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour, <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Paysage
>>
>> https://youtu.be/EWIzDTsYpAw video
>>
>> I return to you, listening to the rustle within the world that I
>> can only dream with eyes closed, ears blocked, breath held, as
>> if there were escaped trauma at every juncture of every branch,
>> I'm now _leaning into th emachine_ to be certain that I have not
>> forgtten the way home, the demarcation of sound within the
>> periodic glimering that carries us elsewhere, O if only prayer
>> were performative! if only commands of goodness quietly murmured
>> truths in waters submerged beneath the oceans, just there, " and
>> they pointed to a moment when  the blackboard illumined, came to
>> life, made good on all the kind promises of the world, in this
>> holiday season full of lost joy, in this recompense
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[NetBehaviour] Paysage

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Paysage

https://youtu.be/EWIzDTsYpAw video

I return to you, listening to the rustle within the world that I
can only dream with eyes closed, ears blocked, breath held, as
if there were escaped trauma at every juncture of every branch,
I'm now _leaning into th emachine_ to be certain that I have not
forgtten the way home, the demarcation of sound within the
periodic glimering that carries us elsewhere, O if only prayer
were performative! if only commands of goodness quietly murmured
truths in waters submerged beneath the oceans, just there, " and
they pointed to a moment when  the blackboard illumined, came to
life, made good on all the kind promises of the world, in this
holiday season full of lost joy, in this recompense


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[NetBehaviour] Rush Storm Fury Music Guitar

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Rush Storm Fury Music Guitar

https://youtu.be/OcJS55eI_qM video

On the stucture of storms or what's heard within them or the
downfall of particular drops of water or the potential for
flooding and gathering against a semblance of music wrapping,
enveloping the community of minor windows and sprays. This
should not have been difficult but the editing was monstrous to
be sure, everything tettering, slightly off-balance, and then
the winds would pick up again and I'd be making additional
video, the sound already recorded with the Zoom against the
larger panes here, no problem with that, but the combination,
just getting it right, jumping from machine to machine and on
and on and on. Whtaever. The result works for me somewhat
astonishing that the parts merged or didn't merge appropriately.
Usually the labor is facile, this time it was goal-directed and
who has goals with a storm with no chaser needed, just out the
window, the dull roar everything around. As long as I can
produce something that I'm unsure of, that I haven't bvefore,the
more I continue to work, long covid and edyes closed
notwithstanding.

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[NetBehaviour] Can't talk in the pool

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Can't talk in the pool

http://www.alansondheim.org/timeofday.jpg

Eyes closed, the pool, trying to focus, think I have long covid,
not sure, the symptoms are there, all of them, in messy
(dis)order, the constant sudden descent into absolute
exhaustion, which is the meain , that's main one, mean as well,
following me everywhere, distending my thoughts, contrravening
whatever it is I might be thiniing, the words rise like scum to
the surface, mistakes and all, the swill, somewhere I wrote
about sweill before, not sure: swill wills however, that's
definite, the hum of the dehumidifier covering up any other
thoughts that might be rising to the surface, actually the
humidifer, not the de- and I wonder why that came first to mind,
te heat's coming on now "to be sure" and I can hear it, that
rush of air, earlier mice in the heating system, various sounds,
there's a nation here which can be comforting. I stop for a
moment. The thoughts, NOT THE WORDS, come forth,  in other
words, OTHER WORDS, it's that process I've been following, the
intermixture but having nothing to do with writing or reading,
nothing like that, it's all in the f9inger's ordinary dance by
themselves, errors and all. I let that _sink in_ as best I can,
When my fingers extend to the "farthest reaches" of the
keyboard, there I have a thought again: the shoreline, barrier,
corrisng-point to the normative of typing/language, being
living, surviving. I think with long covid perhaps I won't
survie that long and perhaps Idon't have long covid at all,
self-diagnosis always a trap.. From what I've read it's always a
trap, but the symptoms are there and in any case something's
radically wrong with my body, or so I think. The doctor will get
back to me eventually. It's been four months since covid
presented itself. It's long after the epidemic per se and I
never thought I'd get it,or it would get me. I stup, confused
for an instant, the flow is broken, there are errors, I'm not
sure where, something in my mind, subetrrraen ean, is dictating
this now, errror after error, there's no escape, I'm
heart-broken, distraught, there's no way out of this, the
horizon seems darker, forboding, perhaps I'm dreaming all of
this, the sound of the keys notwithstanding.

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[NetBehaviour] Violin, Violent Storm, Phase Collisions

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

(Hope this is of interest here)


Violin, Violent Storm, Phase Collisions

https://youtu.be/1X6EVeCdDDs video

Wanderer, what do they call you, when they call you... When
what? The phase loops of the weather system deride the dis/order
of things -

Are you thinking as When what? The phase loops of the weather
system deride the dis/order of things -? Is When what? The phase
loops of the weather system deride the dis/order of things -
really thoughtful? Do you stay in your skin, are you in your
place, ah don't answer... Ah...

Have your numbered your ... , are you listng your earth? Do I
list? Do I belong? What is this music, these lights, these moire
patterns loops of the weather system

I think we should consider that, When what? The phase loops of
the weather system deride the dis/order of things - ...
times plays me  your earth!

What do you call your forgiving skin? The patterns patois
inconceivable of the violin and its burrows

When what? The phase loops of the weather system deride the
dis/order of things -, The patterns patois inconceivable of the
violin and its burrows opens me totally to you!
Patois of the violin
Patois of the storm
Storm of the violin
Storm of the patois

My Storm of the patois is yours... The patterns patois
inconceivable of the violin and its burrows makes me thoughtful
-13323 times!

The patterns patois inconceivable of the violin and its burrows
calls forth lost your placement, running 8 gigabytes. beneath or
within the pure, The patterns patois inconceivable of the violin
and its burrows is , pure, Do I list? Do I belong? What is this
music, these lights, these moire patterns loops of the weather
system? ... your placement is Storm of the violin here, it's
your placement?

Are you becoming close to changing variables to The patterns
patois inconceivable of the violin and its burrows? Closer than
one might imagine given the panoply of the residue of 'things'
in the world which never existed as 'things' in them. You
program your carapace forever...

Your clean i know ::===:: ::===:: ::===::

The patterns patois inconceivable of the violin and its
burrows:Do I list? Do I belong? What is this music, these
lights, these moire patterns loops of the weather system:When
what? The phase loops of the weather system deride the dis/order
of things -::Storm of the patois Your lost Storm of the patois
is in my pure Storm of the violin Your times runs into my Storm
of the violin - turning me clausterphobic

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[NetBehaviour] Shadows, Viola, Migraine and Phenomena

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Shadows, Viola, Migraine and Phenomena

https://youtu.be/Ai88iK6X5Eo VIDEO

Shadows by Azure Carter, viola by Alan Sondheim

Eyes clothed/closed; this is hardly the result I was looking
for, attempting to sleep again, breathing to one hundred and
then that was slowly and then that came again to an end,
nothing. So I began to notice disturbances in the visual field
in the dark, and they grew into the usual migraine patter, that
backwards-C shape that accompanies them, but then something
else, a satellite appeared, fuzzy growth to the right of the C
but clearly disconnected, wherever I looked, all of this, seemed
to me clearly not retinal, somewhere deeper in the brain, and
odd that the patterns take on the structure of a wave-front,
quite clearly, with interference, hence the  zigzag which seems
to indicate a seconary waveform or higher harmonic, but perhaps
not harmonic; perhaps the large  C shape is a carrier wave and
the rest lies in the details. So these spawned tonight the
secondary shape which was less formed, less clarified, but
nonetheless a presence like the other. No explanation. I still
have the "heavy" feeling in the midst of the migraine's ending,
almost that pressure. I can't get rid of all this ddebris,
wondering if it's also connected to age as so many things are.
I'm at a loss but I'm sure these aren't the visions of a saint,
no matter who says what. I wonder if these are the results of
waves "pooling," almost eddied within the brain, what in
turbulence theory were once called "animals," and also related
to fractal organizations considered as "dumps" or some such.
Clearly I'm ignorant here, but the signs are so absolutely
clear, so present... The phenomena came, by the way, after the
slow hundred count, hoping that would send me somewhere else, to
seep, hopefully without dreams of family, past, anxieties,
untoward events, nightmares, for I have had many of the last,
but at least on that account, the worsst of them, what were
nameless and blank and black and dread, have disappeared. They
were emptied upon wakening, by which I mean that nothing was
left of the content, not a clue, nothing at all... Eyes open
now, content dissipated, too early in the morning, worn.

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