powermail-discuss Digest #2961 - 04/03/09
powermail-discuss Digest #2961 - Friday, April 3, 2009 where is saved the log? by m. osti t...@mclink.it Re: where is saved the log? by Jan M.J. Storms j...@storms.org -- Subject: where is saved the log? From: m. osti t...@mclink.it Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:16:31 +0200 upgrading to last version i'm getting in trouble sending mails. i got only the failed icon so i'd like to know more: is there a log of powermail? -- marco, italy (foxtrot customer #01) -- Subject: Re: where is saved the log? From: Jan M.J. Storms j...@storms.org Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:34:17 +0200 Dear Marco, I am afraid there is no log kept by PowerMail. The server logs may give you some information if you have access to them. Kind regards, Jan - Incredible Mac software bundle at MacHeist until april 6th over 95% off! http://www.macheist.com/bundle/u/272706/ m. osti scripsit dd. Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:16:31 +0200 (internet: @636) upgrading to last version i'm getting in trouble sending mails. i got only the failed icon so i'd like to know more: is there a log of powermail? -- marco, italy (foxtrot customer #01) -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2962 - 04/05/09
powermail-discuss Digest #2962 - Sunday, April 5, 2009 Multipart Encoding for Text not recognized by Matthias Schmidt p...@schmidt-system.de -- Subject: Multipart Encoding for Text not recognized From: Matthias Schmidt p...@schmidt-system.de Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:01:44 +0900 Hello, today I received a Japanese mail, send with Apple Mail (2.928.1) as multipart/alternative. The encoding of the text and of the html part (Shift JIS) was neither recognized by PM nor by Safari 4. This I find very strange. cheers, Matthias -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2825 - 01/16/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2825 - Saturday, January 16, 2010 Time for an update! by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Time for an update! by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re(2): Time for an update! by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Time for an update! by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: Time for an update! by A-NO-NE Music anonemu...@mac.com Re(2): Time for an update! by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Time for an update! by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: Time for an update! by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de -- Subject: Time for an update! From: George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:31:59 -0500 I've been a Powermail fan for years, but I'm getting impatient for some improvements. These are basic things that other mail clients (like Apple's Mail) do just fine. 1. .ics files can't update Calendar. 2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases. 3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they only appear as attachments. -- Subject: Re: Time for an update! From: Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:03:52 +0100 George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: 1. .ics files can't update Calendar. Works for me; double clicking an .ics attachment opens iCal which offers to add it to some calendar. 2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases. Yep. Works a little better than before, but still not completely reliably. 3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they only appear as attachments. Is there an actual email format with inline images, I mean distinct from HTML? I thought that inline images in non-HTML mail were just regular attachments that some mail clients preferred to display inline. Personally I prefer images to be listed separately from the mail text itself (and not opened unless I choose to), but maybe there could be an option. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de -- Subject: Re(2): Time for an update! From: George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:09:31 -0500 More inline... George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: 1. .ics files can't update Calendar. Works for me; double clicking an .ics attachment opens iCal which offers to add it to some calendar. For me, the attachments end up as part of the body of the text version of the message - Powermail does not detect the attachment. The mail program on the iPhone recognizes the attachment properly. 2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases. Yep. Works a little better than before, but still not completely reliably. 3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they only appear as attachments. Is there an actual email format with inline images, I mean distinct from HTML? I thought that inline images in non-HTML mail were just regular attachments that some mail clients preferred to display inline. Personally I prefer images to be listed separately from the mail text itself (and not opened unless I choose to), but maybe there could be an option. Once again, Mail on the iPhone displays the message as the author intended. If you would prefer to see it another way, then it should be a preference, not the default action. We really haven't seen much new from CTM in a while. Is development still continuing? -- Subject: Re: Time for an update! From: Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:35:06 +0100 George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: For me, the attachments end up as part of the body of the text version of the message - Powermail does not detect the attachment. The mail program on the iPhone recognizes the attachment properly. I've just tried sending from iCal 4.0.1 to PM 6.0.3 and the .ics file was recognized as an attachment alright. Once again, Mail on the iPhone displays the message as the author intended. If you would prefer to see it another way, then it should be a preference, not the default action. I was wondering about the as the author intended part - is there actually a standard way to specify that images should be displayed inline, other than using HTML? Because technically those inline images are still attachments. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de -- Subject:
powermail-discuss Digest #2826 - 01/19/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2826 - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 Re: Time for an update! by Richard Hart richard.h...@waywewill.com Re: Time for an update! by Michael Lewis mich...@offbalance.com Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client by Sean McBride cwat...@cam.org Re: Time for an update! by Paul Schatzkin (mobile) dri...@49chevy.com Re: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client by Paul Schatzkin (mobile) dri...@49chevy.com Re: Time for an update! by Paul Schatzkin (mobile) dri...@49chevy.com Re(2): Time for an update! by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Time for an update! by Tim lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Time for an update! by Michael Lewis mich...@offbalance.com Re: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client by Michael Lewis mich...@offbalance.com Re: Time for an update! by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: Time for an update! From: Richard Hart richard.h...@waywewill.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:25:57 -0800 I agree with Michael. I would never allow my employees to use an email client that did not allow me to turn off the display of inline images. To display inline images by default is inconsiderate because it is too dangerous. Richard Hart You wrote: A-NO-NE Music (anonemu...@mac.com) wrote: What standard now is Apple Mail. Apple Mail has a hidden preference (DisableInlineAttachmentViewing; you can set it using the shell) governing whether attachments are displayed inline. Contrary to what George supposed, Apple Mail doesn't care about the author's intentions. Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail clients were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I for one am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would call an improvement. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de -- Subject: Re: Time for an update! From: Michael Lewis mich...@offbalance.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:05:08 -0600 On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Michael J. Hußmann wrote: Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail clients were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I for one am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would call an improvement. - Michael I agree. While I have switched to Apple Mail for the time being, and I agree PowerMail could use some new doodads, I don't think making it show all HTML mail stuff is good -- at least without options/preferences for some heavy customization of what is and isn't shown. I've stayed on the list because I do like PowerMail and want to watch what is happening with it. I hope it remains an alternative to HTML/styled email (which I still hate despite going to Apple Mail to deal with some mail I get now :( ), with enough HTML capability to make several users happy, but the ability to turn it off in bits and pieces as needed by others like me. -- Michael Lewis mich...@offbalance.com -- Subject: Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client From: Sean McBride cwat...@cam.org Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:57:33 -0500 Hi all, There is a Mac developer named Brent Simmons that, on his blog, tossed out the idea about creating a new power user Mac email client: http://inessential.com/2010/01/16/email_init Looks like there are a bunch of people that think it would be a good idea. He's created a mailing list too: http://lists.ranchero.com/listinfo.cgi/letters-dev-ranchero.com Could be interesting Sean -- Subject: Re: Time for an update! From: Paul Schatzkin (mobile) dri...@49chevy.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:16:56 -0600 And I would NEVER used an e-mail program whose support srvice t relentlessly spams NON USERS with unwanted support e-mails without so much as an unsubscribe link in the msgs. This is lame, stupid and fucked up. How do I make it stop??? --PS Sent from my iPhone, which is why it's so short. On Jan 16, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Richard Hart richard.h...@waywewill.com wrote: I agree with Michael. I would never allow my employees to use an email client that did not allow me to turn off the display of inline images. To display inline images by default is inconsiderate because it is too dangerous. Richard Hart You wrote: A-NO-NE Music (anonemu...@mac.com) wrote: What standard now is Apple Mail. Apple Mail has a
powermail-discuss Digest #2827 - 01/26/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2827 - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 Re: Time for an update! by Lane Roathe l...@roathe.com Re(2): Time for an update! by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Time for an update! by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Re: Re(2): Time for an update! by A-NO-NE Music anonemu...@mac.com Re: Time for an update! by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Re: Time for an update! by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: Time for an update! by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re(2): Time for an update! by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Time for an update! by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re(2): Time for an update! by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re(3): Time for an update! by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Time for an update! by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: Time for an update! by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Time for an update! by Sean McBride cwat...@cam.org Re: Time for an update! by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com -- Subject: Re: Time for an update! From: Lane Roathe l...@roathe.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:38:20 -0600 on Sat, Jan 16, 2010 PowerMail discussions may have said: I've been a Powermail fan for years, but I'm getting impatient for some improvements. I an agree with that, there are several things I'd like to see improve; my list: 1. Larger than 2GB archive sizes (I have two suggestions: a) a way to create folders that use separate DBs, and/or a DB per email account 2. An option to turn off the double-click to open a URL (ie, default to OS standard of selecting a word) 3. Ability to auto-sync to a network backup. (ie, instead of moving my db around on a thumb drive, sync my laptop and desktop to a backup of the db on a server) 4. Fix the problem where if you select 100 messages and hit reply by mistake (the shortcut key is right next to mark as read), PM opens a reply email to all of those selected messages. (Does anybody ever actually select 3 or more emails and click Reply to reply to them all?) 5. Connection issues; give meaningful error messages to they can be diagnosed and repaired 6. UI responsiveness threading - too many actions, esp. checking email w/a lot of accounts, cause the entire app to 'pause' for long periods (10-20 seconds). 7. Better interaction with OS features (calendar, contacts, etc). For instance, it would be nice to render iCal z. Cleanup wasted pixel space (low priority, and difficult to do w/good aesthetics but more pixels is more text is better, imo) 1. .ics files can't update Calendar. Works for me, this is actually a OS thing, PM is just telling the system to open the file; whatever application is assigned to that filename suffix with handle it. (Don't get me started on losing one of the best features of Mac OS X w/the loss of creator id's in SL!) 2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases. I seem to recall a few instances when this didn't work, but not any time recently and not in any that I could find to test today. However, a double-click should _not_ by default open a url, double-clicks are for selecting words! (a pet annoyance of mine as I have to select words that are part of a url multiple times per day) 3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they only appear as attachments. Obviously, it would be good on occasion to see properly rendered html emails, but I never have an issue with this when I click the Show HTML button. Maybe you don't have the html option turned on? If you want to have the option of turning that off, fine. At least give me the option to view it properly. PS. What is the danger in displaying inline images? Well, for one they are almost always used as a way to track you. Having them on means that any spam email you click on will let the spammer know that you read their email, making your email address much more valuable (ie, you will get more spam). Also, HTML email is very dangerous for another reason - it makes it extremely easy for crooks to fake URLs (ie, what the user sees as the url is http://www.bofa.com but the actual url is http://iownzu.com); HTML email makes it much easier to lure people into going to a website that will infect their computer, put in tracking cookies, pretend to be your bank asking for information to confirm security, etc. I'll put it this way - my 3rd filter in PM is if email has HTML part, mark as spam and move to trash Lane Roathe, CEO Ideas From the Deep, llc http://www.ideasfromthedeep.com ___ Get a great start on your morning with Frosted Flakes in Jolt Cola! -- Subject: Re(2): Time
powermail-discuss Digest #2829 - 03/20/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2829 - Saturday, March 20, 2010 PM Truncates Text String by Giovanni Andreani giovanni.andre...@poste.it Re: Bounces by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Re: Anyone at home? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Anyone at home? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Anyone at home? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Anyone at home? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com set status to sent script doesn't work in PM 6.03 - bug? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re(2): Anyone at home? Yep. by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Re: Anyone at home? by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: PM Truncates Text String by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com -- Subject: PM Truncates Text String From: Giovanni Andreani giovanni.andre...@poste.it Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:04:47 +0100 I've just added a new mail account that has a quite long domain name. In the Mail Accounts window Receiving tab Incoming mail server field I've inserted the pop3. prefix followed by a 34 character string. After completing the settings I discovered that PM won't receive any incoming messages because, in some way, it had truncated the last seven characters of the incoming mail string. It actually cut off the characters that exceeded the field where they where inserted in, in the Mail Accounts window. Though, this happens after saving the Mail accounts window. In all the other fields this don't occur even though these fields are containing a larger number of characters than what they can actually display. Any suggestion? Thank you in advance. Giovanni -- Subject: Re: Bounces From: CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:39:38 +0100 Matthias, On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:11:03 +0900, Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de wrote: Hallo, could someone please remove this guy from the list or configure LetterRip in way that it doesn't forward bounces. - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - rolf.tob...@tobler-consult.ch Done. jean michel/ctm qa -- Subject: Re: Anyone at home? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:56:20 +0100 T.L. Miller said: The only difference with my set-up, which works fine, is only my user name is in ID -- not my e-mail address. Good catch, but didn't make a difference. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: Anyone at home? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:01:18 +0100 Powermail sa såhär: probably his problem is the amount of mail ... 4000+ that's a lot and who can read so much? I get maybe some 300 to 400 mails per day and don't read them all. Yes, surely that must be the problem. :P This account, though have 7000+ messages and does sync up more or less in real time. I have left tens of thousands on email servers accessed with POP since 1994 and PowerMail is the only client that ever gave me this specific problem on *some* accounts, not all. Which doesn't mean PM is to blame, but it's involved at least. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: Anyone at home? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:02:45 +0100 Tobias Jung said: You've got thousands of messages on a POP server? Welcome to the 21st century! Or the information age or whatever. -- Subject: Re: Anyone at home? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:03:27 +0100 Tim lapin said: It even seems to have my sent messages as well sent from my POP instance at home. Nice feature. :-) Indeed. -- Subject: set status to sent script doesn't work in PM 6.03 - bug? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:17:27 +0100 Whenever I have used the script set status to sent PM still wants to send it. So obviously PM 6.03 doesn't respect the change that seemingly took place. I looked in the PM script dictionary and there's still a status property of a message that doesn't appear to be read-only and of the possible values are sent. Considering this script is delivered with PM (inside the application) I'm wondering what could be going on. Ideas? MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re(2): Anyone at home? Yep. From: Bill Schjelderup
powermail-discuss Digest #2830 - 03/21/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2830 - Sunday, March 21, 2010 Re(2): Anyone at home? by Raphaël PAREJO raphael.par...@gmail.com Re: Anyone at home? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Anyone at home? Yep. by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Anyone at home? by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: Anyone at home? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: set status to sent script doesn't work in PM 6.03 - bug? by Graham B grah...@netspace.net.au Re: set status to sent script doesn't work in PM 6.03 - bug? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: say what? TEST by Jay S medi...@doing180.com Re: Anyone at home? by Florian Fürst ffmu...@ffmusik.de Re: PM Truncates Text String by Giovanni Andreani giovanni.andre...@poste.it Formated text in signatures by Raphaël PAREJO raphael.par...@gmail.com trying to fix pop gmail problems - report by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report by Tom Bulat tombu...@atlanticbb.net Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report by Tom Bulat t...@dandeliondigital.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re(2): trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re(2): Anyone at home? From: Raphaël PAREJO raphael.par...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:18:24 +0100 Hello alls! It is not a special case... As researcher and membre of 8 proefiona associations and groups, I receive a lot of messages. I've choosed PowerMail for these reasons... Back up posibilities are poor... Best regards. -- Raphaël Parejo Le/el/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:37:09 +0100 Tobias Jung (new...@tobiasjung.net) m'a écrit / me escribió : MB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote (Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:54:25 +0100): At the outset of using Gmail in PowerMail on 2 different accounts I attempted to download every message for both accounts, which PowerMail and the server wisely choose to do in chunks of a few hundred messages**. I left them all on the server I think, but I'm not sure actually. After many rechecks all messages actually were downloaded on one account at least. The other problem-affected account stil haven't got all messages even as I set it to redownload every message (currently 4000+) at one point. (...) I assume there is either a problem with your special settings or somewhere else. There's nothing special about them. You've got thousands of messages on a POP server? Well, I'd call that special... Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that an email client doesn't need to be able to handle such an amount of messages. It is, in my opinion, a special case nonetheless which might explain why no one else seems to have the problem you do. Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- Subject: Re: Anyone at home? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:24:27 +0100 Tobias Jung said: Welcome to the 21st century! Or the information age or whatever. Sorry I tried to help. Won't happen again. If you're claiming I'm mistaken in my basic assumptions how POP should work - based on 26 years of POP mail, then I would welcome your conclusions if you support the data to make them viable. You didn't. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: Anyone at home? Yep. From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:25:40 +0100 Bill Schjelderup said: that's my 2 cents worth. It was a thoughtful response at any rate. Thanks. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: Anyone at home? From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:36:27 +0100 MB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote (Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:24:27 +0100): Welcome to the 21st century! Or the information age or whatever. Sorry I tried to help. Won't happen again. If you're claiming I'm mistaken in my basic assumptions how POP should work - based on 26 years of POP mail, then I would welcome your conclusions if you support the data to make them viable. You didn't. I didn't claim anything at all nor did I provide any conclusions. I merely tried to guess why you experience problems no one else seems to have. In fact, I even pointed out that I'm not saying that an email client doesn't need to be able to handle such an amount of messages And your response is to mock me. So, you
powermail-discuss Digest #2831 - 03/22/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2831 - Monday, March 22, 2010 Re(2): trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by Tom Bulat t...@dandeliondigital.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re(2): trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight From: Tom Bulat t...@dandeliondigital.com Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:02:31 -0400 Use secure connection on a dedicated secure port: 995 (Use port checked) Outgoing: authenticate (same as ingoing) Use secure connection on a dedicated secure port: 465 (Use port checked) In my case, the my ISP did not allow a STARTTLS Comand -- Subject: Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:45:01 +0100 MB wrote: However, I renewed the settings for enabling POP also for messages that have been already downloaded. This is a possible culprit. PM and gmail obviously don't agree on what messages that have been downloaded because of PM prematurely disconnecting and the gmail servers may have recorded that all messages have been offered already and missed that the connection was dropped. It seems you have a misunderstanding of the retrieve messages left on the server again option of PowerMail. It will re-retrieve messages that Powermail has already retrieved on this account, but not deleted from the server. It has nothing to do with the read flag that gmail has on the server side, as this notion is not part of the POP3 protocol. Gmail does not know which messages have been downloaded by PowerMail. This option should only be used in some special circumstances: - messages are identified on the server side by a unique ID, but there may be some rare circumstances were some POP server re-use a (not-so) unique ID for a different message; in this case, PowerMail could miss some messages, thinking they have already been downloaded. In this situation, if you have configured PowerMail to *not* leave messages on the server, you can enable the retrieve messages left on the server again to be sure that no message will ever be missed. - if you have accidentally deleted some messages, and want to re- download them. In this case, however, you will get duplicates for messages still present on the server and locally. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - I have a variety of indexing and searching tools: Spotlight, PathFinder, EagleFiler. Foxtrot is just head and shoulders ahead of everything else in capability. It finds every instance of a search term within a document and highlights them and allows you to jump from instance to instance and even gives a popup menu that shows all the instances in a short context. FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:52:34 +0100 Tom Bulat wrote: Use secure connection on a dedicated secure port: 995 (Use port checked) Outgoing: authenticate (same as ingoing) Use secure connection on a dedicated secure port: 465 (Use port checked) In my case, the my ISP did not allow a STARTTLS Comand The STARTTLS command is normally used on the standard ports (port 110 for POP, 143 for IMAP, 25 for SMTP). When using special ports (995 for POP, 993 for IMAP, 465 for SMTP), the STARTTLS command should not be used; check use a dedicated secure port instead. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot is the product that Spotlight could have and should have been but isn't. (...) If you are tired of dancin' with Spotlight, it is time to do the Foxtrot FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, solution in sight From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:11:03 +0100 PowerMail
powermail-discuss Digest #2832 - 03/23/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2832 - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 Problem with regex match by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Re: Problem with regex match by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: Problem with regex match by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Re: Problem with regex match by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Problem with regex match by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, amount of messages by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com search index: account not searchable by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: trying to fix pop gmail problems - report, amount of messages by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Bug track list by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Bug track list by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: search index: account not searchable by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: search index: account not searchable by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Problem with regex match From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:00:46 -0700 Hey all, I am trying to auto-junk attachments whose names are like image 123.jpg. I have a filter with criterion [attachment name] [matches the search pattern] and this pattern: image [0-9]+\.(png|gif|jpg) However, it is not triggering. Any hints? Is my regex bad, or is PM's idea of a regex botched somehow? cheers, -ben -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: Problem with regex match From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:01:46 +0100 Ben Kennedy wrote: I am trying to auto-junk attachments whose names are like image 123.jpg. I have a filter with criterion [attachment name] [matches the search pattern] and this pattern: image [0-9]+\.(png|gif|jpg) search pattern here is not a grep regexp, but a FoxTrot search pattern: http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/manual/foxtrot_search_patterns.html Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Wow, this is an amazing application. I have been looking for a fast local search tool that provides live previews and FoxTrot does the trick. I often have to search thousands of pages of developer references to find answers and this is the only search program I have found that is worth keeping open on my desktop. FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.macupdate.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: Problem with regex match From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:22:53 -0700 PowerMail Engineering wrote at 10:01 PM (+0100) on 3/22/10: search pattern here is not a grep regexp, but a FoxTrot search pattern: http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/manual/foxtrot_search_patterns.html Damn. Ok, thanks for the clarification. I guess there is no easy way to do this without invoking an applescript or something then. PCRE support would be awesome in a future version... :) b -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: Problem with regex match From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:23:03 +0100 Ben Kennedy asked: Any hints? Is my regex bad, or is PM's idea of a regex botched somehow? You can do regex with PowerMail Mail filters? Where did this expectation come from? You can read more about the search pattern possibilities used in PowerMail and Foxtrot here: http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/manual/ foxtrot_search_patterns.html MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: Problem with regex match From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:35:36 -0700 MB wrote at 11:23 PM (+0100) on 3/22/10: You can do regex with PowerMail Mail filters? Where did this expectation come from? I was modifying a previous search pattern I had for months/years which very much resembled a regex (in fact, I think it was valid regex, though by coincidence only); that, and the phrase search pattern, plus the fact I've been doing a lot of regex searching in BBEdit lately, led me to make that false assumption. (Especially since we're talking in the context of a simple string match and not a database search) -b -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: trying
powermail-discuss Digest #2833 - 03/27/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2833 - Saturday, March 27, 2010 List still alive? by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Re: List still alive? by Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de -- Subject: List still alive? From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:06:40 +0100 List still alive? Just checking! -- Subject: Re: List still alive? From: Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:06:26 +0900 Am 27.03.10 07:06, schrieb Mirko Kranenburg: List still alive? Just checking! thanks for the noise ;-) we had just recently some discussions, didn't you read em? cheers Matthias -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2834 - 03/28/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2834 - Sunday, March 28, 2010 Re: List still alive? by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl -- Subject: Re: List still alive? From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:40:44 +0100 I have been trying for weeks to get registered. The CTM website is partly disfunctional (try to get your hands on the older versions...), so I did not really believe it had worked this time. Sorry for that noise! Won't do it again! -- Mirko Kranenburg e-mail mirko-l...@xs4all.nl On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:06:26 +0900, Powermail wrote: Am 27.03.10 07:06, schrieb Mirko Kranenburg: List still alive? Just checking! thanks for the noise ;-) we had just recently some discussions, didn't you read em? cheers Matthias -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6.0.4!! by m. osti t...@mclink.it [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.4 by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Re: 6.0.4!! by Jim Pistrang j...@jpcr.com Re: 6.0.4!! by m. osti t...@mclink.it Re(2): 6.0.4!! by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Re: 6.0.4!! by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com -- Subject: 6.0.4!! From: m. osti t...@mclink.it Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:03:23 +0200 funny to know about new version on macupdate instead of here ;) -- -m -- Subject: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.4 From: CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:20:41 +0200 Dear PowerMail-discuss and PowerMail-announce list members, CTM Development is pleased to announce the release of PowerMail 6.0.4 http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/ Latest news: - Search speed optimizations - Updated build system - performance gains - 64-bit Spotlight FoxTrot Search plugin - 64-bit QuickLook plugin- - Fixed a possible corruption of the SpamSieve scripts - Disk image updated to include SpamSieve 2.8.1 - Fixed a bug in the German localization Download PowerMail as well as the new FoxTrot 2.6 Pro, Server and Personal Search from: http://www.ctmdev.com/download/ If you currently own the current major release for any of these products, these updates are free to you. If you wish to side-grade products, upgrade from an earlier version or upgrade to a higher level of features (i.e. to FoxTrot Professional multi-user and Search Server), enjoy our new lower pricing (due to the Euro currency drop) from: http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FBAW_LIVEcurrency=EUR Registered users: look for a registered user discount coupon in your e- mail soon. Kind regards, the CTM Development / FoxTrot and PowerMail team ctm-i...@ctmdev.com -- Subject: Re: 6.0.4!! From: Jim Pistrang j...@jpcr.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:25:33 -0400 Hi m., funny to know about new version on macupdate instead of here ;) Really. Has anyone updated yet? Not sure I want to be first. Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://www.jpcr.com -- Subject: Re: 6.0.4!! From: m. osti t...@mclink.it Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:59:45 +0200 Jim Pistrang 30-03-2010: Has anyone updated yet? me ;) smoth upgrade: i can fl the 64bit under the hood -- -m -- Subject: Re(2): 6.0.4!! From: Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:25:56 -0600 updated as soon as I saw it. No problems so far. I've not noticed any particular benefit...but I'm not paying much attention on that right now. I've had very good luck with Powermail updates, so I tend to do them as soon as they are available. I usually do a full database rebuild afterwards too...but I'm trying to get some work done, so I'll defer that step for now. running on 10.6.3 too +---+ Bill Schjelderup -- b...@companioncorp.com +---+ Has anyone updated yet? -- Subject: Re: 6.0.4!! From: Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:56:22 -0400 On 3/30/10, m. osti wrote: funny to know about new version on macupdate instead of here ;) I saw it on MacUpdate first, but immediately updated. I've not noticed any difference (not expecting to, since most of the changes are 'under the hood' and for newer systems than I have). I must say it is really good to have continued support for the older hardware, as the speed of PowerMail's interface really shines on my Pismo compared to other software. - Don -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11 -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2836 - 04/07/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2836 - Wednesday, April 7, 2010 Re: 6.0.4!! by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: 6.0.4!! by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Re: 6.0.4!! by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: 6.0.4!! by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net OmniFocus by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Re: 6.0.4!! by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: 6.0.4!! by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com -- Subject: Re: 6.0.4!! From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:28:06 +0200 m. osti said: me ;) smoth upgrade: i can fl the 64bit under the hood How I wish 64bit affected PPC too. sigh -- Subject: Re: 6.0.4!! From: T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:49:55 -0400 On 3/30/10, at 12:56 PM, Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com said: I must say it is really good to have continued support for the older hardware, as the speed of PowerMail's interface really shines on my Pismo compared to other software. Yes, really good news. Let's hope this support continues well into the future. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... -- Subject: Re: 6.0.4!! From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:32:19 +0200 Hello, I just tried to install PM 6.0.4 and now, I've got a serious problem... First, I installed it via PM's own software update function. When PowerMail re-started, it said that it could't be run from a write-protected volume. Well, of course my hard disk isn't write-protected... So I went to the CTM site and downloaded the pm6.dmg. I opened it, dragged PowerMail to the application folder and got the same message. So to be able to continue work, I got PowerMail 6.0.3 back from the TimeMachine Backup which I ran just prior to installing v6.0.4. It crashed. Then, I also retrieved the PowerMail Files folder and the preferences from TimeMachine. PowerMails starts, I can see my usual windows and messages for a second or two, and then it crashes again. So, what to do now? Here's a crashlog: http://www.tobiasjung.net/storage/powermail_crashlog.txt MacOS X 10.6.2, Mac mini 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- Subject: Re: 6.0.4!! From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:57:15 +0200 Hello, I wrote: I just tried to install PM 6.0.4 and now, I've got a serious problem... (...) Hoping that someday this message will arrive on the list along with my previous post (quoted above)... Meanwhile, after installing 6.0.4 again and fiddling with file permissions I get the following message (translated from German) when I try to start PowerMail: An error occured Insufficient permission. Please check the permissions of the Database and Attachment directory. This is the content of my PowerMail Files directory: = drwxr-xr-x@ 16 tob tob 544 1 Apr 23:10 . drwx--@ 17 tob tob 578 1 Apr 23:08 .. -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob12292 1 Apr 23:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob 12 31 Mär 11:58 .PMLock -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob 753664 30 Mär 19:25 Address Database drwxr-xr-x 1081 tob tob36754 30 Mär 19:25 Attachments -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob0 3 Nov 2007 Custom Dictionary drwxr-xr-x@3 tob tob 102 30 Jan 20:03 Custom Scripts drwxr-xr-x@2 tob tob 68 3 Nov 2007 Custom Sounds drwxr-xr-x 2 tob tob 68 3 Nov 2007 IMAP Cache -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob172337082 30 Mär 19:25 Message Database -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob 163840 30 Mär 19:25 Server-side Database -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob 360448 30 Mär 19:27 Setup Database drwxr-xr-x 2 tob tob 68 30 Mär 19:24 Temp Incoming drwxr-xr-x 2 tob tob 68 30 Mär 19:22 Temp Outgoing -rw-r--r--@1 tob tob0 30 Mär 19:25 User Prefs = I created a new Mac OS X user account to run PowerMail without any data or preferences... and there, PowerMail starts without any problems. So I compared the file permissions there with those above -- they are the same, except that the group is set to staff instead of tob. I changed that on the problematic account. Still, no luck. Oh, and btw, I did run repair permissions. But as I expected, it didn't help. And now, I've run out of ideas... Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- Subject: OmniFocus From: Mirko Kranenburg
powermail-discuss Digest #2837 - 04/08/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2837 - Thursday, April 8, 2010 Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 by Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. ul...@utopian.dk Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 by Graham B grah...@netspace.net.au Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 by Bill Haynie hay...@netcommander.com PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 by Fabian Ramirez fabi...@mac.com Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 by Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. ul...@utopian.dk -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 From: Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. ul...@utopian.dk Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:43:39 +0200 Running PM 6.0.4 on PowerMac G5 2x 1.8 Ghz... and this update sucks out the processor bigtime! Slowing the whole system down, even freezing whole Mac OSX 10.4.11 totally, so reboot was needed.. (application hang).. whats up? -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:23:21 +0200 I have not noticed that on a G4, so it may be processor specific, or something coincidentally going wrong with your machine? -- Mirko Kranenburg e-mail mirko-l...@xs4all.nl On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:43:39 +0200, Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. wrote: Running PM 6.0.4 on PowerMac G5 2x 1.8 Ghz... and this update sucks out the processor bigtime! Slowing the whole system down, even freezing whole Mac OSX 10.4.11 totally, so reboot was needed.. (application hang).. whats up? -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 From: Graham B grah...@netspace.net.au Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:05:38 +1000 On or about 05:43 Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. said - Running PM 6.0.4 on PowerMac G5 2x 1.8 Ghz... and this update sucks out the processor bigtime! Slowing the whole system down, even freezing whole Mac OSX 10.4.11 totally, so reboot was needed.. (application hang).. whats up? I'm on a G5 dual 2GHz, with 10.5.8, PM 6.0.4 and Activity Monitor says that it is using between 1.6 and 1.9 of processor time at idle, it peaked about 6.4 a couple of minutes ago when typing this. It's working fine on my MacBookPro, too. -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 From: Bill Haynie hay...@netcommander.com Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:50:23 -0500 I'm 65 years old and I've found that any product, software, cars, or anything else is just as good as the support you can get on the product. I've written this company 6 times and received 1 response. So that should tell everyone something. Also, its much easy on them to have these discussions than to give actual support. They don't even know what the word support means. This program and the company sucks! Bill Haynie On or about 05:43 Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. said - Running PM 6.0.4 on PowerMac G5 2x 1.8 Ghz... and this update sucks out the processor bigtime! Slowing the whole system down, even freezing whole Mac OSX 10.4.11 totally, so reboot was needed.. (application hang).. whats up? I'm on a G5 dual 2GHz, with 10.5.8, PM 6.0.4 and Activity Monitor says that it is using between 1.6 and 1.9 of processor time at idle, it peaked about 6.4 a couple of minutes ago when typing this. It's working fine on my MacBookPro, too. -- Subject: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 From: Fabian Ramirez fabi...@mac.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:14:44 -0700 Well, FWIW, still no go for PM 6.0.4 and my G5 running 10.5.8. The last beta for 6.0.3 worked, but not 6.0.3 or 6.0.4. -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2835 - 03/30/10 From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:27:29 +0200 Ulrik Larsen wrote: Running PM 6.0.4 on PowerMac G5 2x 1.8 Ghz... and this update sucks out the processor bigtime! Slowing the whole system down, even freezing whole Mac OSX 10.4.11 totally, so reboot was needed.. (application hang).. whats up? Does rebooting fixed the problem? If this occurs again, please open Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor, select PowerMail in the process list, then click the sample process button. Save the sample in a file and send it to us. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot Professional Search is a fantastic application. I simply couldn't live without it. FoxTrot Professional Search user comment
powermail-discuss Digest #2839 - 04/11/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2839 - Sunday, April 11, 2010 Re: OmniFocus by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: OmniFocus by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 by Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de -- Subject: Re: OmniFocus From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:29:41 +0200 Mirko Kranenburg sa såhär: Omnifocus-Mail Meaning? What does it do? -- Subject: Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:35:26 +0200 Fabian Ramirez told: Well, FWIW, still no go for PM 6.0.4 and my G5 running 10.5.8. The last beta for 6.0.3 worked, but not 6.0.3 or 6.0.4. Throw away the prefs files and repair your permissions. I'm running 6.04 under 10.5.8 ona dual 2.0 G5. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: OmniFocus From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:17:42 +0200 It takes the e-mail message and sends it to the OmniFocus inbox. That allows you to send messages with a specific text in the subject and collect in in the OF workflow. -- Mirko Kranenburg e-mail mirko-l...@xs4all.nl On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:29:41 +0200, MB wrote: Mirko Kranenburg sa såhär: Omnifocus-Mail Meaning? What does it do? -- Subject: Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 From: Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:18:58 +0900 Am 11.04.10 04:35, schrieb MB: Fabian Ramirez told: Well, FWIW, still no go for PM 6.0.4 and my G5 running 10.5.8. The last beta for 6.0.3 worked, but not 6.0.3 or 6.0.4. Throw away the prefs files and repair your permissions. I'm running 6.04 under 10.5.8 ona dual 2.0 G5. here it works fine with a G4 Powerbook and a G5 iMac and 10.5.8 So what's the actual problem? cheers Matthias -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2840 - 04/12/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2840 - Monday, April 12, 2010 Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 by Fabian Ramirez fabi...@mac.com Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 From: Fabian Ramirez fabi...@mac.com Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:59:53 -0700 Well the symptoms were after double-clicking the icon to launch the app, the icon would bounce in the Dock. It would stop bouncing and then the icon would disappear from the Dock and PowerMail never launched. Nada... -- Subject: Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:12:50 +0200 Fabian Ramirez said: Well the symptoms were after double-clicking the icon to launch the app, the icon would bounce in the Dock. It would stop bouncing and then the icon would disappear from the Dock and PowerMail never launched. Nada... So what have you done so far in order to fix the problem? I gave you some suggestions. Have you done all those? If you go to the Console app inside /Applications/Utilities and look at the Crashreporter logs, what does the latest log that coincide with you starting PowerMail say? If you search for PowerMail in the Console Messages log what does it says at the coinciding times? MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2841 - 04/13/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2841 - Tuesday, April 13, 2010 Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 by Fabian Ramirez fabi...@mac.com -- Subject: Re: PM 6.0.4 still no go for G5/10.5.8 From: Fabian Ramirez fabi...@mac.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:54:05 -0700 I tried that previously, but it didn't help. However, I was contacted by CTM Dev and they provided fix to the problem. As for the Crashreporter logs and Console Messages, nada... -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2842 - 05/10/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2842 - Monday, May 10, 2010 Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. ul...@utopian.dk Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by Charles Watts-Jones charle...@pobox.com -- Subject: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. ul...@utopian.dk Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 05:22:09 +0200 Hello. Here in Denmark, we now have the possibility to make international domaines now, with special scandinavian letters like 'æøå' (ae oe aa) .. But it seems that PowerMail 6.0.4 is not capable of handling this? Character set preferences in PM is set to: For language family: US / Western Europe Use character set: ISO-8859-1 Preferred family: US / Western Europe For undefined incomming: ISO-8859-1 Whenever i try to make a new mail, and write a recipient with a name like 'sø...@bæk.dk' then 2 things will happend; First, anything after the 'ø' is completly ignored and the address book tries to match up a address for anybody with an 's' .. Second, if i try to write 'sssø...@bæk.dk' in order to avoid the addressbook lookup, and press enter, then email is displayed as 'sss r...@b k.dk' .. PM is making spaces instead..!? The ISO codes im using is: 230, 248, 229, 198, 216 and 197 (æ ø å Æ Ø Å) .. http://biega.com/ISO-8859-1.gif The above also goes for when recieving mails from a person like 'Søren Bæk sø...@bæk.dk' .. PM will display 'Søren Bæk s r...@b k.dk in the From: field.. Am I using the wrong preferences or what? Regards, Ulrik. -- -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 11:47:09 +0200 Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. wrote: Here in Denmark, we now have the possibility to make international domaines now, with special scandinavian letters like 'æøå' (ae oe aa) .. But it seems that PowerMail 6.0.4 is not capable of handling this? PowerMail does not currently support international domain names or email addresses. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - I searched for words inside text documents and was pleasantly surprised when those words were highlighted in the respective text, if viewed in the preview drawer. FoxTrot Personal Search review on www.softpedia.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: Charles Watts-Jones charle...@pobox.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 18:50:51 +0200 Jérôme - CTM Engineering wrote: PowerMail does not currently support international domain names or email addresses. Almost as annoying is PM's inability to transfer accented characters to the 'Display Name' field in is Address book. Indeed entering an accented character stops the filling of the 'Display Name' dead. An annoyance that has been around for too long. -- Charles -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2843 - 05/11/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2843 - Tuesday, May 11, 2010 Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 20:25:50 +0200 Charles Watts-Jones said: Almost as annoying is PM's inability to transfer accented characters to the 'Display Name' field in is Address book. I have zero problems with accented chars. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 20:59:49 +0200 Charles Watts-Jones said: Almost as annoying is PM's inability to transfer accented characters to the 'Display Name' field in is Address book. I forgot to mention that I'm using the workaround: paste the name with accented chars and it will show up. Indeed entering an accented character stops the filling of the 'Display Name' dead. An annoyance that has been around for too long. Yesm you're right this is the case if you type instead of pasting. It's a real stupid bug too. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 20:59:37 +0200 Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. said: Whenever i try to make a new mail, and write a recipient with a name like 'sø...@bæk.dk' then 2 things will happend; First, anything after the 'ø' is completly ignored and the address book tries to match up a address for anybody with an 's' .. Second, if i try to write 'sssø...@bæk.dk' in order to avoid the addressbook lookup, and press enter, then email is displayed as 'sss r...@b k.dk' .. PM is making spaces instead..!? This is along standing limitation. umlauts in domain names have been around for some years in Sweden at least. However, it's rare that organisations ONLY use the umlauts, they commonly use both. Ask your recipents to ask the service provider what the status is. Or just try replacing ø with o and so on. I'm sure there are rules for that kind of thing. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2844 - 05/12/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2844 - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 11:48:45 +0200 Ulrik Larsen - Utopian. ul...@utopian.dk wrote (Mon, 10 May 2010 05:22:09 +0200): Whenever i try to make a new mail, and write a recipient with a name like 'sø...@bæk.dk' then 2 things will happend; First, anything after the 'ø' is completly ignored and the address book tries to match up a address for anybody with an 's' .. Second, if i try to write 'sssø...@bæk.dk' in order to avoid the addressbook lookup, and press enter, then email is displayed as 'sss r...@b k.dk' .. PM is making spaces instead..!? This is not a solution but a workaround that might serve until PM supports international domain names: Before adding such an email address to your address book, convert it to punycode using one of the converters that can be found on the web, e.g. http://idnaconv.phlymail.de/index.php. sø...@bæk.dk' will result in xn--sren-...@xn--bk-1ia.dk. If you add this encoded form to your address book, PM is able to handle this address without problems (at least on the few addresses that I tested). Regrettably, to make autocompletion work, you have to start typing xn which will list all addresses that are encoded in this way. (But I said it's just a workaround...) Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2846 - 05/20/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2846 - Thursday, May 20, 2010 Re: [to be tested] PowerMail 6.0.5b1 by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com -- Subject: Re: [to be tested] PowerMail 6.0.5b1 From: Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:42:09 -0400 On 5/19/10, CTM info wrote: Please discuss your findings regarding the points above with us directly or on the list, as appropriate. Thanks. Maybe it is my imagination, but in a first impression, everything (GUI, AppleScript, etc.) seems to be even more responsive than the current released version on my PPC system. I have noticed no new issues. -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11 -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2847 - 05/22/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2847 - Saturday, May 22, 2010 Re: [to be tested] PowerMail 6.0.5b1 by Kjell Olausson kj...@kio.nu -- Subject: Re: [to be tested] PowerMail 6.0.5b1 From: Kjell Olausson kj...@kio.nu Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 23:15:06 +0200 Well, that was refreshing. PM feels faster and more responsive, great! Me like. Keep up the good work. -- Regards, Kjell Olausson http://www.kio.nu Kållered, Sweden iMac G5|1,8 GHz|OS 10.5.8|1 GB RAM|PM 6.0.5b1|Horizontal Layout -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2848 - 05/25/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2848 - Tuesday, May 25, 2010 Cannot print my Emails... by Robert Bauer rba...@goofyfaces.com Re: Cannot print my Emails... by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com -- Subject: Cannot print my Emails... From: Robert Bauer rba...@goofyfaces.com Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:38:38 -0400 Help! Somehow my Setup Database has been compromised. It started a few days ago when Powermail on my iMac would not correctly print my emails. All I get is the word, SUBJECT at the top and the rest is blank. I narrowed down the problem to the setup database. If I replace it with a new one, I can print. But I lose all my settings like my clippings and my filters which I swear by. I bit the bullet and started a new setup database and started to transfer over all my settings by hand. About halfway through, the same printing problem occurred! Any suggestions on how to save this? -- Robert Bauer President Goofy Faces Caricatures 1228 Thames Drive Rochester Hills, MI 48307 248.652.8910 248.928.0576 efax Check out the NEW Goofy Faces! www.goofyfaces.com Proud member of the following organizations: -- Rochester Regional Chamber National Association of Campus Activities (NACA) Detroit Metro Convention Visitors Bureau Member President of the International Society of Caricature Artists (ISCA) Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/Goofyfaces Find me on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/goofyfaces Learn more about caricatures at www.squidoo.com/goofyfaces -- Subject: Re: Cannot print my Emails... From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:59:26 +0200 Robert Bauer wrote: All I get is the word, SUBJECT at the top and the rest is blank. I narrowed down the problem to the setup database. You can try the Reset miscellaneous preferences in the First Aid dialog (by pressing the command and option keys during PowerMail startup). Jérôme - CTM Engineering - An altogether different indexer, and I find a more useful one, is FoxTrot by CTM. FoxTrot indexes files overnight instead of on the fly but if I have just created a file, I can usually find it, so I do not find that a limitation. Charles Maurer - FoxTrot user comment on http://emperor.tidbits.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2849 - 05/30/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2849 - Sunday, May 30, 2010 Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by Sean McBride cwat...@cam.org -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: Sean McBride cwat...@cam.org Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 00:28:26 -0400 PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2010-05-10 05:47 said: Here in Denmark, we now have the possibility to make international domaines now, with special scandinavian letters like 'æøå' (ae oe aa) .. But it seems that PowerMail 6.0.4 is not capable of handling this? PowerMail does not currently support international domain names or email addresses. Will it support them in the near term? long term? ever? If not, it's really a nail in the coffin. An email client that can't send email to everyone is not a good thing, analogous to a web browser that doesn't work with all websites. PS: 6.0.5b1 is working well for me. Sean -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2850 - 05/31/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2850 - Monday, May 31, 2010 Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1 From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 23:18:00 +0200 Sean McBride suggested: If not, it's really a nail in the coffin. An email client that can't send email to everyone is not a good thing, analogous to a web browser that doesn't work with all websites. As I have said earlier this is unlikely to be such a big problem in the real world as a majority of domain names registered by people actually using their brains have double entries per web site. So that svenskapotäter.se for example would also be registered under svenskapotater.se pointing to the same IP. I suppose a small number of domains are not set up this way, but that is and should be the norm for years to come. Case in point, the web browser IE version 6 is still in wide use and doesn't support IDN domain names. While number of web developers don't support IE 6 with all bells and whistles of the design and content, they do have to make sure that the site at least should be able to be visited by IE6 users. Anyone not registering a backup for their IDN domain are negligent business-wise IMHO. So, the real problem hereis for the holders of domain names to communicate their alternative to the people whom with they which to communicate. Like making it clear on their web site what the options are. That said, support in PM for IDN domain names woud be a welcome addition. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.3 build 4609 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1TB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2851 - 06/04/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2851 - Friday, June 4, 2010 Error -981 by H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Re: Error -981 by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: Error -981 by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: Error -981 by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com -- Subject: Error -981 From: H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:59:22 -1000 When I do a search, and click on a message in the search window, I often get Error -981 When I go to the Mail Browser window, and select the same message there, it does not happen. Ron -- Subject: Re: Error -981 From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:30:11 +0200 H.R. Riggs wrote: When I do a search, and click on a message in the search window, I often get Error -981 When I go to the Mail Browser window, and select the same message there, it does not happen. This error is about an invalid font. That is strange that it occurs only after a search. Is the message in HTML? Does it contain non ascii or roman characters? Have you tried validating all your fonts with Font Book? Jérôme - CTM Engineering - I searched for words inside text documents and was pleasantly surprised when those words were highlighted in the respective text, if viewed in the preview drawer. FoxTrot Personal Search review on www.softpedia.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: Error -981 From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:58:25 +0200 PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com wrote (Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:30:11 +0200): H.R. Riggs wrote: When I do a search, and click on a message in the search window, I often get Error -981 When I go to the Mail Browser window, and select the same message there, it does not happen. This error is about an invalid font. That is strange that it occurs only after a search. Is the message in HTML? Does it contain non ascii or roman characters? Have you tried validating all your fonts with Font Book? I occasionally get Error -981, too. On my system, it's like this: - When I double-click the message to open it in a new window, I get the error message. - But in the preview pane below the messages list, the message is displayed fine. - Then, I double-click the same message again: _Nothing_ happens. No new window, no error message. - And now, this is really strange: I double-click the message that is listed above the message that triggered the error to open it in a new window. The new window gets opened... and then, when I hit the right arrow button to go to the erroneous message, it IS displayed without any error message. I think (but I'm not sure) this happens when the message contains characters that aren't covered in the font that I've set to display messages: I use an old-style bitmap font for display which has a limited character set... that's why I didn't report this before, I just thought: Hey, you chose to use such an old-fashioned font, so don't complain if you're running into problems from time to time... By the way, when such an message is displayed, it uses a font that I set up nowhere in PowerMail's preferences (Osaka Regular-Mono), so I guess PM automatically switches to font which has a rich character set... Maybe this helps to figure out what happens to H.R. Riggs. Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- Subject: Re: Error -981 From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:47:05 +0200 Tobias Jung wrote: - When I double-click the message to open it in a new window, I get the error message. - But in the preview pane below the messages list, the message is displayed fine. Can you send me the raw message source of such a message? If the message is still present on the server, you can get it by retrieving the message with Apple Mail, then choose the file / save as menu, and select the raw message source format; or you can usually get the raw source if you have a webmail access to this account. I think (but I'm not sure) this happens when the message contains characters that aren't covered in the font that I've set to display messages: I use an old-style bitmap font for display which has a limited character set... that's why I didn't report this before, I just thought: Hey, you chose to use such an old-fashioned font, so don't complain if you're running into problems from time to time... Do you also get this error if you set your preferences to a different font? By the way, when such an message is displayed, it uses a font that I set up
powermail-discuss Digest #2853 - 06/10/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2853 - Thursday, June 10, 2010 Re: Can't Send Messages by Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com Re: Can't Send Messages by Kjell Olausson kj...@kio.nu Re: Can't Send Messages by Tim lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Can't Send Messages by Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com Re: Can't Send Messages by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Re: Can't Send Messages by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: Can't Send Messages by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re(2): Can't Send Messages by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Error logs ( was Can't Send Messages) by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Error -981 by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net -- Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages From: Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:52:17 -0400 It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail, but no longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no problem from PM -- just mac.com. Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting messages, my Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's in the process of sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent. Tom Miller On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Thomas Miller wrote: Thomas Miller wrote: 2. In the event that a Waiting message was Trashed, how do you stop PM from remembering there is that message it couldn't send? On 6/9/10, at 2:31 PM, Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net said: Use for such a case the integrated Script (at Script Menu) Delete Message Immediately, than close and restart PowerMail. Thanks. I'm sending this from Mail since I have 2 messages from last night that are still Waiting in the current version of PM. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... -- Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages From: Kjell Olausson kj...@kio.nu Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:17:07 +0200 Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com wrote: It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail, but no longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no problem from PM -- just mac.com. Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting messages, my Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's in the process of sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent. Have you tried PowerMail First Aid? -- Regards, Kjell Olausson http://www.kio.nu Kållered, Sweden iMac G5|1,8 GHz|OS 10.5.8|1 GB RAM|PM 6.0.5|Horizontal Layout -- Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages From: Tim lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:25:24 -0400 Sounds like a flag that won't reset or possibly a corrupted database issue. Have you tried the various utilities available when starting up Powermail? (rebuild database, rebuild indices,...) On 09/06/2010 2:52 PM, Thomas Miller wrote: It is strange that I can send using mac.com (me.com) address from Mail, but no longer from PowerMail. Using my Gmail account or my ISP's is no problem from PM -- just mac.com. Also, although I used the applescript to delete the two Waiting messages, my Out Tray is still bold. It does lose the boldness when it's in the process of sending, but goes bold again after the message is sent. Tom Miller On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Thomas Miller wrote: Thomas Miller wrote: 2. In the event that a Waiting message was Trashed, how do you stop PM from remembering there is that message it couldn't send? On 6/9/10, at 2:31 PM, Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net said: Use for such a case the integrated Script (at Script Menu) Delete Message Immediately, than close and restart PowerMail. Thanks. I'm sending this from Mail since I have 2 messages from last night that are still Waiting in the current version of PM. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... -- Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages From: Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:14:58 -0400 When I start up from my SuperDuper HD clone from Saturday when everything was working fine, the same problem exists. Oddly, my wife is having the same problem using an old version of Mail (2.1.3) on Tiger on her old iMac lamp. Therefore, the problem must be with mac/me.com. I've posted the question to Apple Discussions, but no replies. Could it be some problem caused by my ISP, Verizon? BTW, when Waiting
powermail-discuss Digest #2854 - 06/11/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2854 - Friday, June 11, 2010 Re: Can't Send Messages by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Re(2): Can't Send Messages by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: Can't Send Messages by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com -- Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages From: T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:15:07 -0400 On 6/10/10, at 11:31 AM, Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com said: Verizon has been rolling out blocking of port 25 in various areas. I got it about a month ago. My config for .mac is ... authenticate as user your .mac ID password your password use secure connection use port 587 Using the STARTTLS command Thanks. To be able to send from PowerMail, I changed the outgoing server from smtp.me.com to outgoing.verizon.net and used my Verizon user name and password. I changed it to what you recommended and that also works. I have left Mail alone since it never had a problem on my Mac. It happens to be set to port 993. I used First Aid, got some DB error messages: Class=DB ;what=100; err=130, but the DB is rebuilt, etc., etc. and PM is no longer trying to send deleted messages. Thanks, everyone, for the help!!! Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... -- Subject: Re(2): Can't Send Messages From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:40:53 -0400 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010, T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com wrote: On 6/10/10, at 11:31 AM, Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com said: Verizon has been rolling out blocking of port 25 in various areas. I got it about a month ago. My config for .mac is ... authenticate as user your .mac ID password your password use secure connection use port 587 Using the STARTTLS command Thanks. To be able to send from PowerMail, I changed the outgoing server from smtp.me.com to outgoing.verizon.net and used my Verizon user name and password. I changed it to what you recommended and that also works. I have left Mail alone since it never had a problem on my Mac. It happens to be set to port 993. I used First Aid, got some DB error messages: Class=DB ;what=100; err=130, but the DB is rebuilt, etc., etc. and PM is no longer trying to send deleted messages. Thanks, everyone, for the help!!! Tom Miller Hi Tom, while this will work, people who receive your mail will see it as coming from your Verizon address rather than your .mac (.me) one. I *certainly* do not want that. If you want your mail to remain independent of Verizon then you should use Apple's smtp server smtp.me.com and your .me username and password. Apple's Mail does a good job of figuring out te right connection parameters. It obviously excels with Apple's own servers. Port 993 is appropriate for IMAP, which is the default for .mac/.me accounts in Mail. If your account is set up as a POP3/SMTP account then it would use port 995 for POP3 (under the Advanced tab). FInding the port number for outgoing mail is harder, as it doesn't show up in the Account anywhere. To find this, select the account in question and click the popup at the bottom Outgoing Mail Server. When the list pops up, select Edit SMTP Server List ... which is the last entry. Choose the server in the top part of the window and click Advanced tab half-way down. You can then change the settings if needed. For me using POP3/SMTP it's Use default ports, Authentication: password, and the .mac username and password. This was easy to find, wasn't it :) Cheers.Peter -- Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages From: T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:06:40 -0400 On 6/10/10, at 4:40 PM, Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com said: Hi Tom, while this will work, people who receive your mail will see it as coming from your Verizon address rather than your .mac (.me) one. I *certainly* do not want that. If you want your mail to remain independent of Verizon then you should use Apple's smtp server smtp.me.com and your .me username and password. Peter, I have kept the PM configuration you recommended, but using the outgoing.verizon.net setting didn't interfere with showing the mac/ me.com address. My only PM problem is that it is now ignoring the Mail Scheduling (every 2 minutes). Never a problem before. I may need to run First Aid again. Apple's Mail does a good job of figuring out te right connection parameters. It obviously excels with Apple's own servers. Port 993 is appropriate for IMAP, which is the default for .mac/.me accounts in Mail. If your account is set up as a POP3/SMTP account then it would use port 995 for POP3 (under the Advanced tab). FInding the port number for outgoing mail is
powermail-discuss Digest #2855 - 06/12/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2855 - Saturday, June 12, 2010 Re: Can't Send Messages by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com -- Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages From: T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:12:29 -0400 On 6/10/10, at 6:06 PM, T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com said: My only PM problem is that it is now ignoring the Mail Scheduling (every 2 minutes). Never a problem before. I may need to run First Aid again. Overnight this problem solved itself. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2856 - 06/25/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2856 - Friday, June 25, 2010
nested folder path syntax for apple script
by m. osti t...@mclink.it
Re: nested folder path syntax for apple script
by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com
Re: nested folder path syntax for apple script
by m. osti t...@mclink.it
Re: nested folder path syntax for apple script
by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com
Re: nested folder path syntax for apple script
by m. osti t...@mclink.it
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Subject: nested folder path syntax for apple script
From: m. osti t...@mclink.it
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:57:14 +0200
i'm not so confident with apple script i _just_ need to put a nested
folder path in a field but havent had a good time.
property subj : just try
property msgTxt : ta da da
property rTo : name it...@me.com
property acct : kk
property fldrN : + here i need to put the nested path +
tell application PowerMail 6.0.5b1
set the newM to make new message with properties {subject:subj,
content:msgTxt, recipient:rTo, account:acct} at message container fldrN
open the newM
end tell
as usual ty
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-m
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Subject: Re: nested folder path syntax for apple script
From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:30:52 +0200
m. osti wrote:
i'm not so confident with apple script i _just_ need to put a nested
folder path in a field but havent had a good time.
property fldrN : message container subfolder of message container
parent folder
Jérôme - CTM Engineering
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Subject: Re: nested folder path syntax for apple script
From: m. osti t...@mclink.it
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:25:51 +0200
PowerMail Engineering 25-06-2010:
property fldrN : message container subfolder of message container
parent folder
got me an error (container underlined) in english should be waiting for
an end of line etc got an ID (identificativo in italian)
just to have more chances next time the right path should be: message
container italy of message container europe of message container world??
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Subject: Re: nested folder path syntax for apple script
From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:08:46 +0200
m. osti wrote:
got me an error (container underlined) in english should be waiting for
an end of line etc got an ID (identificativo in italian)
just to have more chances next time the right path should be: message
container italy of message container europe of message container
world??
Well, you can't specify a folder path as a single string, you should
refer to the folder from its parent folder. For example:
property subj : just try
property msgTxt : ta da da
property rTo : name it...@me.com
property acct : kk
property parentFolder : parent folder name
property childFolder : child folder name
tell application PowerMail
set the newM to make new message with properties
{subject:subj, content:msgTxt, recipient:rTo, account:acct}
at message container childFolder of message container parentFolder
open the newM
end tell
If you need to describe the folder path as a string, and the depth of
the hierarchy is variable, you have to parse the string yourself:
property subj : just try
property msgTxt : ta da da
property rTo : name it...@me.com
property acct : kk
property folderPath : parent folder name\\child folder name
tell application PowerMail
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {\\}
set folderNames to text items of folderPath
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {}
set target to application PowerMail
repeat with folderName in folderNames
set target to message container folderName of target
end repeat
set the newM to make new message with properties
{subject:subj, content:msgTxt, recipient:rTo, account:acct}
at target
open the newM
end tell
PS: the final version of 6.0.5 is available
powermail-discuss Digest #2857 - 07/01/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2857 - Thursday, July 1, 2010 Problems 10.6.4 AddressBook PM6-05 by Joe Hallett joe...@mac.com -- Subject: Problems 10.6.4 AddressBook PM6-05 From: Joe Hallett joe...@mac.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:32:08 -0700 I'm not sure if these are inter-related issues but here's what is happening: The Mac Address Book is creating large numbers of spurious cards some of which are titled PowerMail sync identifier - others are No Name and First name: Last name: The Mac Address Book and the PM Address Book have not been synced to each other for many months. The problem appeared after I tried to initiate sync via MobileMe. Two other Macs and an iPad were already synced through MobileMe without signs of problems. PowerMail's filter debugger option does not appear. An unrelated problem? Any thoughts, other than wipe down and reinstall everything? Thanks. Joe Hallett -- Joe Hallett - Independent Writer on Technologies and Applications 503-780-8626 cell/text -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2858 - 07/07/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2858 - Wednesday, July 7, 2010 Archive? by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re: Archive? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Archive? by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca multiple installs one database by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re: multiple installs one database by Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Re: multiple installs one database by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: multiple installs one database by Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de -- Subject: Archive? From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:17:57 -0400 New (well, new again) to this list... it's been quite a few years at this point, I guess. Anyhow... I do not remember: is there an archive of past posts to this list? -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re: Archive? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:30:32 +0200 John Snippe asked: is there an archive of past posts to this list? Here's one: http://www.mail-archive.com/powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com/ -- Subject: Re: Archive? From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:45:02 -0400 On 7-Jul-10, at 1:30 AM, MB wrote: Here's one: http://www.mail-archive.com/powermail- disc...@ctmdev.com/ Thanks -- John Snippe -- Subject: multiple installs one database From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:07:31 -0400 I am needing to be able to access email and other files from various locations, and have set up a Dropbox account to facilitate that (1: http://www.dropbox.com )... it maintains sync of files placed in it's folder between various locations using the same account via internet. Totally transparent and very nice. So my question is two-fold: it is possible to have 3 or more installs of Powermail be able to access a single database folder, and/or is it possible for more than one user to access a database folder at a time, or more specifically, is the database capable of autosave from multiple locations at the same time without corrupting? I ask this 'corruption' question because I already know, and it has been documented, that there is an issue in this regard using Dropbox with Filemaker, and we've had to take measures to ensure safety in that regard. Also: is it possible to have separate databases on a single install for different email accounts? Does this even make sense to you? It does to me, but I fear my explanation may be somewhat lacking... -- John Snippe 1: if this interests you, please sign in via this link... we both benefit: https://www.dropbox.com/link/39.3o5y9pUrUR?lk=7d217b1b71462635 -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:24:11 +0200 One word: IMAP. What you are trying is to adapt a single user database as multiple user database. Most likely this will work for a time and then will give you a nice and subtle corruption. IMAP was designed for this sort of problem. Regards Trixi Willius Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:07:31 -0400 Von: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca An: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Betreff: multiple installs one database I am needing to be able to access email and other files from various locations, and have set up a Dropbox account to facilitate that (1: http://www.dropbox.com )... it maintains sync of files placed in it's folder between various locations using the same account via internet. Totally transparent and very nice. So my question is two-fold: it is possible to have 3 or more installs of Powermail be able to access a single database folder, and/or is it possible for more than one user to access a database folder at a time, or more specifically, is the database capable of autosave from multiple locations at the same time without corrupting? I ask this 'corruption' question because I already know, and it has been documented, that there is an issue in this regard using Dropbox with Filemaker, and we've had to take measures to ensure safety in that regard. Also: is it possible to have separate databases on a single install for different email accounts? Does this even make sense to you? It does to me, but I fear my explanation may be somewhat lacking... -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:31:47
powermail-discuss Digest #2859 - 07/08/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2859 - Thursday, July 8, 2010 Re: multiple installs one database by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com multi-license discount by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re: multiple installs one database by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re: multiple installs one database by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: multiple installs one database by Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:43:12 +0200 *John Snippe asked: So my question is two-fold: it is possible to have 3 or more installs of Powermail be able to access a single database folder It's certainly possible but not likely to be practical unless you're on the same stable network subnet. , and/or is it possible for more than one user to access a database folder at a time, It's not possible nor would it be recommended to even attempt it. *Beatrix Willius said: IMAP was designed for this sort of problem. That could be said, however this is ruling out PowerMail as a client IMHO as the IMAP-support is very basic. But this does depend on the amount of traffic of course. I do check webmail accounts with more sporadic traffic via IMAP in PowerMail. Unfortunately leaving the messages on server and fetching via POP from multiple locations is inadvisable as PowerMail more often than other clients in my experience misses to fetch occasional messages and fetches a lot of duplicates as well, at least so on high volume accounts. And this with only one DB and one client in one location. It's a drag really. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB -- Subject: multi-license discount From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:59:32 -0400 I filled in the form asking for a promo code for multi-license discounting on the ctmdev website, but nobody seems to be listening... are they on holidays? -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:02:44 -0400 On 8-Jul-10, at 6:43 AM, MB wrote: That could be said, however this is ruling out PowerMail as a client IMHO as the IMAP-support is very basic. But this does depend on the amount of traffic of course. I do check webmail accounts with more sporadic traffic via IMAP in PowerMail Yes, that's an option I am looking at. We have Squirrel on the server... but it's REALLY not pwermail, is it?!? I wonder if environments will help with the corruption issue... it could limit database access to a 'one user - multiple points of access' situation, which would stop update collisions and that inherent risk of corruption. Yes/no? -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 14:10:29 +0200 John Snippe said: I wonder if environments will help with the corruption issue... it could limit database access to a 'one user - multiple points of access' situation, which would stop update collisions and that inherent risk of corruption. Yes/no? I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this involves many users? Why would many users even be sharing the same environment or even the same OS X account? There's benefit somewhere? -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:53:15 +0200 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.07.10 14:02, schrieb John Snippe: On 8-Jul-10, at 6:43 AM, MB wrote: That could be said, however this is ruling out PowerMail as a client IMHO as the IMAP-support is very basic. But this does depend on the amount of traffic of course. I do check webmail accounts with more sporadic traffic via IMAP in PowerMail Yes, that's an option I am looking at. We have Squirrel on the server... but it's REALLY not pwermail, is it?!? Squirrel is like Roundcube a Webmail frontend for Cyrrus or Dovecot IMAP Server. This has nothing to do with Powermail. I wonder if environments will help with the corruption issue... it could limit database access to a 'one user - multiple points of access' situation, which would stop update collisions and that inherent risk of corruption. Yes/no? Environments are different databases in Powermail. That what you try to achieve is best done with IMAP. If you are having more than 1 mail-account, I'd look into different mailclients, like Apple Mail or Thunderbird for that. Powermail was imho not really designed as a IMAP frontend, but as a POP
powermail-discuss Digest #2860 - 07/09/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2860 - Friday, July 9, 2010 Re: multi-license discount by Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com -- Subject: Re: multi-license discount From: Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:21:09 -0700 On 7/8/10, PowerMail discussions wrote: Subject: multi-license discount From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:59:32 -0400 I filled in the form asking for a promo code for multi-license discounting on the ctmdev website, but nobody seems to be listening... are they on holidays? -- John Snippe I emailed a last week about a license problem and have not gotten a response either. Bob * Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com pa...@alum.mit.edu www.kidsource.com An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field. Niels Bohr * -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2861 - 07/10/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2861 - Saturday, July 10, 2010 Re: multiple installs one database by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re: multiple installs one database by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: multiple installs one database by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re: multiple installs one database by Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de Re: multiple installs one database by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: multiple installs one database by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re: multiple installs one database by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:07:46 -0400 On 8-Jul-10, at 8:10 AM, MB wrote: I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this involves many users? To be accurate, it's currently two users and three computer locations... tho that could grow. IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend to be so primitive, and lack control. Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith? -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:51:16 +0200 John Snippe j...@snippe.ca wrote (Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:07:46 -0400): IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend to be so primitive, and lack control. Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith? I like Mailsmith, and if it had been free at the time when I was looking for a new email client, I admit I might have chosen Mailsmith instead of PowerMail. However, while PowerMail's IMAP support it quite basic, Mailsmith doesn't support IMAP at all. And, according to the author, it probably never will. And Mailsmith doesn't work with a single database but individual files (one file for each message) and I don't know what will happen if you just sync those files between various computers. Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:39:09 -0400 On 10-Jul-10, at 9:51 AM, Tobias Jung wrote: And Mailsmith doesn't work with a single database but individual files (one file for each message) and I don't know what will happen if you just sync those files between various computers. Actually, afaik the current iteration does indeed use a database rather than text-file system... it was apparently the first thing the developer changed in going from v2.2 to v2.2.5 once BareBones let it go. It's one of the things that somewhat disappointed me about this new version as I am kinda-sorta still old-school about liking text files ;-) It would actually not be a 'sync' issue per se, if I set up the user database in the Dropbox folder, and alias that folder to the various installs (I think...) That's something I am hoping to test, in any event. I feel so unfaithful having this discourse here... BTW: the sales department did get through to me this AM with a multi- license promo coupon... thanks, Chantal ;-) -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: Powermail p...@schmidt-system.de Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:42:04 +0200 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.07.10 14:07, schrieb John Snippe: On 8-Jul-10, at 8:10 AM, MB wrote: I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this involves many users? To be accurate, it's currently two users and three computer locations... tho that could grow. IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend to be so primitive, and lack control. Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith? you maybe want to take a look on Thundrbird or Apple Mail. Both work well with several IMAP accounts. If you administer your server, you could install RoundCube instead of SquirrelMail. RoundCube needs additional a mySQL installed, but has a nice interface. cheers Matthias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMOIa7AAoJEA4R31O3DV24UzUH/iyGO5Du1JsVzTx8dKXFO4PQ J/hGU6ktKtudGbAT019ELhixPSLcI4kbZ7AcYL06IA5Ys/nBf7F6hF9ybGVCgDqS gR9saPYV04S1PJRP2DzQyuUx66dr5plR74sq5UZGkmCCeu7eIwX8EAnyNNlw/ZNj +GCNcm0VkW1YAPvt3UPnJ0btbdpDeP1Cya05OkNpl839toRL9HV4sbZgChnROAi/ jV52U1eVT460T0bmP8w2x1IUiR6wjdfIQi+carljufaTNgYd2rXkm1Mi5XlKZAvO WeReqz4SqjToT9wkPD6xi9n0OAziorg6y7xtCe31JdCaNF69nxl3Kfyn54Whejo= =b6aL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Subject: Re: multiple installs one database From: Tobias Jung
powermail-discuss Digest #2862 - 07/14/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2862 - Wednesday, July 14, 2010 PowerMail and iPhoto '09 by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca iPhoto Problem solved by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: iPhoto Problem solved by Robert Bauer rba...@goofyfaces.com Re: iPhoto Problem solved by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re(2): iPhoto Problem solved by Robert Bauer rba...@goofyfaces.com Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca another Problem Discovered since 6.0.5 by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: PowerMail and iPhoto '09 From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:33:21 -0400 Hello folks, I just upgraded my iPhoto to the latest and greatest(?) version of iPhoto, namely that of iPhoto '09. Of course, the inevitable happened and I can no longer select PowerMail as the preferred email client. I found out that what needs to be done is to write a PowerMail script and place it in the iPhoto package along with a .tiff icon file. The problem is that I am no Applescript writer. Is there a canned version of the old method updated for iPhoto '09? I could not find it on the guy's website. If not, can some kind soul point me to an alternate source of said script? Failing that, can someone show me how to alter the existing scripts to allow for PowerMail to work? Cheers, Tim -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD -- Subject: iPhoto Problem solved From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:55:13 -0400 Hello all, Well, I found my own solution: simply manually transfer the existing script and .tif file from the patcher program's package contents into iPhoto's package contents script folder. Time to smack my own head and utter Homer Simpson's famous line: D'OH! -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD -- Subject: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:10:55 -0400 A few generations of PowerMail ago, the software was improved to allow users the ability to create filters based on outgoing messages which would allow us to choose such details as the sending account and the signature. I had set up just such a filter for PowerMail discussion posts. The details involve making an extra account entry with the requisite info for the existing account in question along with the signature. In my case, I have a standard entry for my ISP generated email account and a near duplicate entry called For PowerMail, which has the signature you see below preset as an extra option. All was well until now. No matter what I do, I cannot get that filter to work. In order to send this email, I have set all those parameters manually. I have also disabled the filter just in case. I went to the website and while I could not find a specific answer to my question, I did find an entry for a new option involving filter logs. Joy! I was all set to use the filter log but then I noticed that I don't seem to have the menu entry for that either. Any ideas for either problem? -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD -- Subject: Re: iPhoto Problem solved From: Robert Bauer rba...@goofyfaces.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:33:56 -0400 I would love to get a hold of that script and try it in iPhoto. Where can I get it? -- Robert Bauer President Goofy Faces Caricatures 1228 Thames Drive Rochester Hills, MI 48307 248.652.8910 248.928.0576 efax www.goofyfaces.com President of the International Society of Caricature Artists (ISCA) Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/Goofyfaces Join our Facebook page at www.goofyfaces.com/facebook Learn more about caricatures at www.squidoo.com/goofyfaces Hello all, Well, I found my own solution: simply manually transfer the existing script and .tif file from the patcher program's package contents into iPhoto's package contents script folder. Time to smack my own head and utter Homer Simpson's famous line: D'OH! -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250
powermail-discuss Digest #2863 - 07/15/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2863 - Thursday, July 15, 2010 Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 (debugged script link) by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 (debugged script link) From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:31:16 +0200 MB said: You can find add powermail discuss sig I inadvertently introduced a bug that made the sig appear twice. Here you'll find a debugged script: http://pastebin.com/ZhCfJyW5 MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2864 - 07/17/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2864 - Saturday, July 17, 2010 Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Crashing by H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Re: Crashing by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Crashing by H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu -- Subject: Re: Two New Problems Discovered since 6.0.5 From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:36:53 +0200 PowerMail Engineering said: control-option-click the draft message to perform all filters with logging enabled. Is control-option-click supposed to always work with all types of incoming messages? That menu command only shows up on some incoming and not on others. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB -- Subject: Crashing From: H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:57:52 -1000 PowerMail is crashing pretty frequently lately. It seems to happen most often when I right-click to correct the spelling of a word. Of course, this is very inconvenient, because it means I've just typed an email which is then lost. Any suggestions? Ron -- Subject: Re: Crashing From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:20:01 +0200 H.R. Riggs said: PowerMail is crashing pretty frequently lately. It seems to happen most often when I right-click to correct the spelling of a word. Of course, this is very inconvenient, because it means I've just typed an email which is then lost. Any suggestions? Are you using the OS X buil-in spell checker or something else? OS version? Check your fonts with Font Book or similar. Look in the crashreport in Console: LOG FILES ~/Library/Logs/ Crashreporter PowerMail.crash and post the report to http:// pastebin.com or similar. Then post your pastebin-link to this list and perhaps also to PowerMail support. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB -- Subject: Re: Crashing From: H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:52:43 -1000 MB wrote on 7/16/10 at 10:20 AM: H.R. Riggs said: PowerMail is crashing pretty frequently lately. It seems to happen most often when I right-click to correct the spelling of a word. Of course, this is very inconvenient, because it means I've just typed an email which is then lost. Any suggestions? Are you using the OS X buil-in spell checker or something else? OS version? 10.6.4. It just happened when I was working with the address book, so I don't think it's the built-in spell checker. Check your fonts with Font Book or similar. Look in the crashreport in Console: LOG FILES ~/Library/Logs/ Crashreporter PowerMail.crash and post the report to http:// pastebin.com or similar. Then post your pastebin-link to this list and perhaps also to PowerMail support. Here it is. http://pastebin.com/hybt4ivq MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2865 - 07/24/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2865 - Saturday, July 24, 2010 Problem sending email since server crash by Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net Re: Problem sending email since server crash by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca -- Subject: Problem sending email since server crash From: Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:55:43 -0400 Hi - I have been unable to send email (using my business domain - com- advantage.com) since last week when the server I was on went down. There were issues related to the raid controller so the mirror drive wasn't able to be used. The entire server was rebuilt/restored, but it was a multi-day process restoring accounts (WHM and cPanel). I wasn't involved with the data center because I sublease space on the server, but the server admin has supported getting clients of mine back up and running. From what I understand, in most cases, the clients have Outlook on PCs. The accounts are 'fixed' using Outlooks' Repair Utility. From what I understand new account won't work initially, but they will after the Repair routine is run. It seems to have something to do with encryption and unencrypted messages being sent. I have a few clients whose websites and email I host - who continue to have issues connecting, but the server admin and data center are confident everything is running correctly on their end. Something gets messed up on the client side, and in my case resolution is not easy. I even tried Terminal mode to change defaults in PowerMail (based on an article I read on CTM's website). I can ping my server, but cannot Telnet to it. Also, my wife's Mail application fails to send email. I set her up with a Comcast. ISP account, but these connection issues point to something network wide, and not PowerMail specific. Still, hopefully someone in this community has some thoughts or insights that might lead me to resolving my sending issue. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Paul -- Subject: Re: Problem sending email since server crash From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:22:10 -0700 Paul Raybould wrote at 5:55 PM (-0400) on 7/23/10: I can ping my server, but cannot Telnet to it. Also, my wife's Mail application fails to send email. I set her up with a Comcast. ISP account, but these connection issues point to something network wide, and not PowerMail specific. Can you telnet to ports 25 or 587 and get a connection? If not, it's a network problem that has nothing to do with PowerMail. -ben -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2866 - 07/29/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2866 - Thursday, July 29, 2010 Re: Problem sending email since server crash by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re(2): Problem sending email since server crash by Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net -- Subject: Re: Problem sending email since server crash From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:25:06 +0200 Paul Raybould said: Still, hopefully someone in this community has some thoughts or insights that might lead me to resolving my sending issue. I can ping my server, but cannot Telnet to it. Could it be something along that your subnet have to verified by the server? May the admin have updated the ports in use or you forgot to set the proper ones? Can you or the clients receive messages at all or is it pitch black for everyone? MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB -- Subject: Re(2): Problem sending email since server crash From: Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:07:55 -0400 Thank you Ben and MB, The problem was somehow in my network here... (in the modem or router?). I had a friend come to test things and try to solve the problem and he connected with his PC laptop using Outlook. After he sent mail successfully, we were both able to - my wife with Apple's Mail and me with PowerMail. I still don't know what the issue was but the server admin claimed that everything was working on their end. Thanks again for the suggestions and help! Paul -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2867 - 08/02/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2867 - Monday, August 2, 2010 Can't Export to other formats by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Can't Export to other formats by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: Can't Export to other formats by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Re: Can't Export to other formats by Christian Roth r...@visualclick.de Re: Can't Export to other formats by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Can't Export to other formats by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: Can't Export to other formats by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Can't Export to other formats by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: Can't Export to other formats by Tim lapin t...@sympatico.ca -- Subject: Can't Export to other formats From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:10:04 -0400 Hello all, I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. I even closed the browser window to see if having a window onto the database was preventing it from working but no go. Any ideas? -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD -- Subject: Re: Can't Export to other formats From: Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 00:32:48 +0200 Tim Lapin (t...@sympatico.ca) wrote: I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. I even closed the browser window to see if having a window onto the database was preventing it from working but no go. That's what you get when you try to export the entire message database. If you export just the selected messages (even when all messages in the database are selected) you will find that all the export options are available. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de -- Subject: Re: Can't Export to other formats From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 00:33:38 +0200 Select a folder in your mail, then try again. If that works, you could select all your folders and export like that. Exporting without a selection can only be done for the entire mail database to PM Exchnage. Mirko Op Aug 2, 2010, om 12:10 AM heeft Tim Lapin het volgende geschreven: Hello all, I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. I even closed the browser window to see if having a window onto the database was preventing it from working but no go. Any ideas? -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Intel iMacOS 10.6.4PowerMail 6.0.5 4 GB RAM 250 GB HD -- Subject: Re: Can't Export to other formats From: Christian Roth r...@visualclick.de Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 00:37:44 +0200 Tim Lapin wrote: I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. Do not choose whole database, but selected messages and folders. Select all desired folders beforehand. HTH, kris -- Subject: Re: Can't Export to other formats From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 22:37:03 -0400 On Monday, August 2, 2010, Mirko Kranenburg sent forth: Select a folder in your mail, then try again. If that works, you could select all your folders and export like that. Exporting without a selection can only be done for the entire mail database to PM Exchnage. Mirko Op Aug 2, 2010, om 12:10 AM heeft Tim Lapin het volgende geschreven: Hello all, I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. I even closed the browser window to see if having a window onto the database was preventing it from working but no go. Any ideas? Thanks for the tip. It seems a bit absurd, though, to distinguish between the entire database and selecting all the folders in the database. Also, is this distinction documented somewhere and if so, where? -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca -- Subject: Re: Can't Export to other formats From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:21:52
powermail-discuss Digest #2868 - 08/03/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2868 - Tuesday, August 3, 2010 Re: Can't Export to other formats by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: Can't Export to other formats From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:30:12 +0200 Tim lapin sa såhär: Rather it is a case of what assumptions should one make Yes I do agree, but a technical user may investigate the matter, when the non-technical user is less likely to do so. I develop webapps myself, support Mac users and still I do think lazily like a normal users do. This makes me do better interfaces I think. and how clear is the documentation regarding those assumptions. In PowerMail's case I don't even count on the documentation nor have I looked at it since I started using PM, but for a newcomer the documentation is likely to be vital. /MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2869 - 08/21/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2869 - Saturday, August 21, 2010 Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jim Pistrang j...@jpcr.com Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net -- Subject: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:27:52 -0400 I created a blog about my desire to switch from Entourage to another program.http://incisivereview.wordpress.com/ Powermail has been my most earnest attempt to replace Entourage, but I've run into a few problems. Hoping you all can help with solutions. I'm now on day 5 of my switch to Powermail from Entourage. I did not find my gold mine or oasis yet. Fortunately, I have had Powermail for a LONG time and I had some filters set up, which I had to modify to match the new folders layout. But I have run into a few problems and inconveniences: In Entourage, I can send messages to Groups and then Expand the Group and remove people from the outgoing mail individually. I have about 20 people with whom I share jokes, but I don't send them back to the ones who have already received them or the one who sent it to me. I sent using BCC. But there is no way to edit and outgoing group in PM without editing the group's members in Address Book. Some of my filters are not catching members of groups and I'm not sure why. I sort incoming mail by group membership. Either that, or it is not catching incoming mail by labels. If Address Book is used as the default AB in Powermail, you cannot label an address. Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue, but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery. You cannot save common search features like saving a display of unread mail. There is a recent mail, but that does not display unread mail. You cannot create an HTML email. Although I have Powermail set to delete emails from the server that I have deleted from PM, it fails to delete them on next connection. Sometimes it retrieves emails and then removes them from the server instead of leaving them on the server as instructed. This is important for me when I travel and need to have copies left on the server to be downloaded when I get home. I'm still struggling to like this setup, but I'd say so far, it is just an okay solution. I miss some of the functionality of Entourage. * Jefferis Kent Peterson www.PetersonSales.net Flash, Web Design and Marketing 111 S. Magnolia Dr. Butler, PA 16001 724-482-2015 -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Jim Pistrang j...@jpcr.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:29:59 -0400 Hi Jefferis, But there is no way to edit an outgoing group in PM without editing the group's members in Address Book. If you create an email to a group and then save it as a draft instead of sending it, the next time you open the email the group is expanded. I've always thought of this as a bug, but it sounds like you might think of it as a featture! Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue, but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery. I find that double-clicking works reliably (except for when it doesn't) Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://www.jpcr.com -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:22:01 +0200 Jefferis Peterson wrote: [...] Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue, but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery. In PM it works always, as long as the URL is written in an absolutely correct way (sometimes there are spaces in between which may not be there or if a long URL contains a manually sedately line break). But the safest way to write an URL into a mail is to copy and paste it from the browser address-field and to put-it between and (while pasting-it, PM places the and itself): http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html is much safer (for all mail programs!) then http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html especially if the URL is a long one and broken by a line break in the mail. You cannot save common search features like saving a display of unread mail. There is a recent mail, but that does
powermail-discuss Digest #2870 - 08/23/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2870 - Monday, August 23, 2010 MOVING TO A NEW COMPUTER? by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: MOVING TO A NEW COMPUTER? by Paul Collett pcoll...@gmail.com Re: MOVING TO A NEW COMPUTER? by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl -- Subject: MOVING TO A NEW COMPUTER? From: Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:36:47 -0400 Hi folks. After testing out PM 6 on my laptop, I'd like to move the settings to my desktop computer to make it a permanent email program. What files should I move to make it a replica of my filters, folders and connections of my laptop test? Jefferis Peterson, Pres. Web Design and Marketing http://www.PetersonSales.com (724)-482-2015 -- Subject: Re: MOVING TO A NEW COMPUTER? From: Paul Collett pcoll...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:52:08 +0900 SW4gbXkgZXhwZXJpZW5jZSwgbW92aW5nIHRoZSBmb2xkZXIgeW91IHNldCBhcyB0aGUgaW5pdGlh bCBwb3dlcm1haWwNCnVzZXIgZW52aXJvbm1lbnQgc2hvdWxkIHdvcmsuIFRoaXMgaXMgdGhlIGZv bGRlciBjb250YWluaW5nIGFsbCB0aGUNCnZhcmlvdXMgUE0gZGF0YWJhc2VzOyB0aGUgYWRkcmVz cyBkYXRhYmFzZSwgbWVzc2FnZSBkYXRhYmFzZSwgc2V0dXANCmRhdGFiYXNlLCBldGMuDQoNCldo ZW4geW91IGluc3RhbGwgYW5kIHJ1biBQb3dlcm1haWwgb24geW91ciBkZXNrdG9wLCBqdXN0IHNl dCB0aGlzIGZvbGRlcg0KYXMgdGhlIGRlZmF1bHQsIG9yIHVzZSBpdCB0byByZXBsYWNlIHRoZSBv bmUgUG93ZXJtYWlsIGNyZWF0ZXMgd2hlbg0KZmlyc3QgcnVuLiBJJ3ZlIGRvbmUgdGhpcyBudW1l cm91cyB0aW1lcywgYW5kIGl0ICpzaG91bGQqIGJlIGFsbCB5b3UNCm5lZWQgdG8gZG8uDQoNCg0K T24gU3VuLCAyMiBBdWcgMjAxMCwgMTA6MzYgUE0sIEplZmZlcmlzIFBldGVyc29uIHdyb3RlOg0K DQo+SGkgZm9sa3MuIA0KPkFmdGVyIHRlc3Rpbmcgb3V0IFBNIDYgb24gbXkgICBsYXB0b3AsIEkn ZCBsaWtlIHRvIG1vdmUgdGhlIHNldHRpbmdzIHRvIG15DQo+ZGVza3RvcCBjb21wdXRlciB0byBt YWtlIGl0IGEgcGVybWFuZW50IGVtYWlsIHByb2dyYW0uIFdoYXQgZmlsZXMgc2hvdWxkIEkNCj5t b3ZlIHRvIG1ha2UgaXQgYSByZXBsaWNhIG9mIG15IGZpbHRlcnMsIGZvbGRlcnMgYW5kIGNvbm5l Y3Rpb25zIG9mICBteQ0KPmxhcHRvcCB0ZXN0PyANCj7vv6Pvv6Pvv6Pvv6Pvv6Pvv6Pvv6Pvv6Pv v6Pvv6Pvv6Pvv6MNCj5KZWZmZXJpcyBQZXRlcnNvbiwgUHJlcy4NCj5XZWIgRGVzaWduIGFuZCBN YXJrZXRpbmcNCj5odHRwOi8vd3d3LlBldGVyc29uU2FsZXMuY29tDQo+KDcyNCktNDgyLTIwMTUN Cj4NCj4NCj4NCg== -- Subject: Re: MOVING TO A NEW COMPUTER? From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:56:21 +0200 If you move your PowerMail Files folder, you've got everything! Mirko Op 23 aug 2010, om 04:36 heeft Jefferis Peterson het volgende geschreven: Hi folks. After testing out PM 6 on my laptop, I'd like to move the settings to my desktop computer to make it a permanent email program. What files should I move to make it a replica of my filters, folders and connections of my laptop test? Jefferis Peterson, Pres. Web Design and Marketing http://www.PetersonSales.com (724)-482-2015 -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2871 - 08/25/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2871 - Wednesday, August 25, 2010 Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Tim lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Mirko Kranenburg mirko-l...@xs4all.nl -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:17:01 -0400 On 8/21/10 9:46 AM, Rene Merz wrote: Well, did you check-it really? What works in Entourage may not work the same way in Power Mail. The two programs are different ... Okay, what settings would I check on the server that would prevent PM from deleting read emails? Jeff Jefferis Peterson, Pres. Web Design and Marketing http://www.PetersonSales.com (724)-482-2015 -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:21:00 +0200 Jefferis Peterson said: Okay, what settings would I check on the server that would prevent PM from deleting read emails? That depends on the server software and the possible settings there, doesn't it? As I've had similar experiences to yours I can only say that it could be worth investigating, however I'd rather select another email package than have to go trough that kind of analysis project again. The only conclusion I could reach from my investigations was that from time to time PowerMail does not agree with the mail server what messages have been downloaded or not , which in my case led to a few messages being apparently lost and tens of thousands of messages getting redownloaded even though I already had them. As a contrast Apple's Mail performs without any problems with the same accounts (but if this is because it's better at handling the communication with Mail servers I can't know for sure as I had been using PowerMail previously on the same accounts and to most extent the same messages). Unfortunately, I'm not that fond of Mails interface nor the one mailbox per account, but as I'm slowly moving to IMAP, PowerMail is slowly loosing its value for me. I wish CTM would make IMAP full citizen, but I have seen nothing that indicates this could be on the horizon. However, I'm not sure that the cause of your problems must be related to those I had. PowerMail never deleted messages in some kind of regular fashion when PowerMail was set to not remove messages from the server at any point in my experience. Can you get a communication log from when this problem occurs I suppose it could be useful finding the cause. /MB -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:30:16 +0200 Jefferis Peterson wrote: What works in Entourage may not work the same way in Power Mail. The two programs are different ... Okay, what settings would I check on the server that would prevent PM from deleting read emails? PM itself never delets any mails; it always needs an action (or the activation of a filter) by the user. Concerning the server settings most of them you can set on deleting mails if they are deleted on the mail client (or similar). It means: If you delete mails on PM by your own action then this mails will be deleted on the server too (during next connection). -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:45:18 -0400 On 8/25/10 3:30 AM, Rene Merz wrote: Concerning the server settings most of them you can set on deleting mails if they are deleted on the mail client (or similar). It means: If you delete mails on PM by your own action then this mails will be deleted on the server too (during next connection). My settings are leave copies of retrieved messages on server to allow my mobile platform not to delete copies for my home computer, BUT to delete from server when deleting locally so junk mail and irrelevant stuff is removed. What I found was that it was not deleting some mail, but appears to be deleting some mail I do not want it to when I move the mail from the Inbox to a folder on my computer. It was an irregular occurrence, and I could not predict when
powermail-discuss Digest #2872 - 08/26/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2872 - Thursday, August 26, 2010 Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Tim lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Tim Hodgson thn...@pobox.com Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:11:26 -0400 On 8/25/10 11:39 AM, Rene Merz wrote: How? Once you work with PM, the other time with Entourage? Sounds crazy ... You cannot work with two different mail programs. Of course you can, but problems are preprogrammed. Come on it isn't that complex. I have a laptop. On the laptop when I am away, I check POP email on my site. I sort the mail as it comes in. I'm testing PM as a replacement for Entourage. When I get home, I fire up my desktop and run Entourage. All the email not manually deleted in PM on the laptop SHOULD remain on the server for download in Entourage. What I found is that some of the messages that should have been left on the server were gone. Jeff Jefferis Peterson, Pres. Web Design and Marketing http://www.PetersonSales.com (724)-482-2015 -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:42:24 +0200 Jefferis Peterson hat am Mittwoch, 25. August 2010 geschrieben: How? Once you work with PM, the other time with Entourage? Sounds crazy ... You cannot work with two different mail programs. Of course you can, but problems are preprogrammed. Come on it isn't that complex. I have a laptop. On the laptop when I am away, I check POP email on my site. I sort the mail as it comes in. I'm testing PM as a replacement for Entourage. When I get home, I fire up my desktop and run Entourage. All the email not manually deleted in PM on the laptop SHOULD remain on the server for download in Entourage. What I found is that some of the messages that should have been left on the server were gone. I don't know how Entourage works, but I guess it's different from PM ... However: Just for such cases (mobile mailing _and_ home/office mailing with the same account) an IMAP4 account should be your method of choice! It's much better and safer then a POP3 account. To understand the big difference have a look at this: http://www1.umn.edu/adcs/guides/email/imapvspop.html http://email.cityu.edu.hk/faq/popimap.htm Helpful for the IMAP installation on PM: http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/manual/imap.html (http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/manual/) And finally: You better work with the same mail software on laptop and home pc. -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:08:04 -0400 On 8/25/10 5:05 PM, PowerMail discussions wrote: However: Just for such cases (mobile mailing_and_ home/office mailing with the same account) an IMAP4 account should be your method of choice! It's much better and safer then a POP3 account. To understand the big difference have a look at this: Well, for mobile apps, that makes sense I guess. But for the home office, I don't want to store mail on the server and have it set to delete it after 30 days. Having a local copy and a searchable database of emails is part of my workflow. Otherwise with IMAP I have to leave it disorganized online or I have to duplicate my folder structure on the server. That is a pain and a duplication of my efforts. Not efficient or helpful. Jeff Jefferis Peterson, Pres. Web Design and Marketing http://www.PetersonSales.com (724)-482-2015 -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:14:05 +0200 Jefferis Peterson said: What I found was that it was not deleting some mail, but appears to be deleting some mail I do not want it to when I move the mail from the Inbox to a folder on my computer. What do you mean move the mail from the Inbox to a folder on my computer? You lost messages when copying already downloaded
powermail-discuss Digest #2873 - 08/27/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2873 - Friday, August 27, 2010 Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Switching to Powermail maybe by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:34:42 +0200 Jefferis Peterson said: Otherwise with IMAP I have to leave it disorganized online or I have to duplicate my folder structure on the server. Well, the point I already have made was that Physical Folders are tired and Virtual folders are wired. Look at how gmail works. Who cares about folders or not? The point is being able to find the information you got. CTM have built fantastic search functions as evident in the Foxtrot application. That they haven't made this more prominent in PowerMail with a more virtual folder structure built on searches is is something I miss. /MB -- Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:29:11 +0200 Jefferis Peterson told: What I'm finding is that some of the messages moved, not deleted, but moved to the folder are NOT appearing or being downloaded when I fire up say Entourage on my desktop. They just disappear from the server. It's not very likely that this disappearance have anything to do with the fact that these messages are getting moved in PM once they have been downloaded. The only mechanism I can think of would be if PM inadvertently deleted some of those messages in the moving process. This, while being possible, doesn't feel likely or reasonable to be the case here. /MB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2874 - 08/29/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2874 - Sunday, August 29, 2010 bye bye PowerMail by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: bye bye PowerMail From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:55:56 +0200 For the umpteenth time PowerMail chooses to re-download month old messages. I don't care that you're not supposed to leave messages on the server with POP mail because other clients using other accounts at the same provider (gmail in this case) do not exercise this problem and can for whatever reason get along with mail servers and if not they handle duplicates better. I've had this problem for years and it cost me all the time I initially saved starting to use PM times 100 (at least). I bug reported this problem an related ones, listened in on the connection and made logs, analyzed the results and discussed them here on list. I never felt that CTM gave a toss despite repeated efforts on my part to express my willingness to cooperate with them to solve the problem - something that is a no-brainer in contact with other small developers - nor did I feel that this user community can replace CTM. For years I've seen that many people that ask for solutions for important problems got attacked. Very few people wanted to cooperate on finding solutions. I wrote then addressing the user community, though I never posted: Is it really that hard to work together in order to create a community that could advance the usage of PowerMail, attracting new users and encourage the developers to consolidate and expand on the vision this app really has entrenched in its soul? Are PowerMail users a bunch of pessimists? I'd rather not think that, but subscribing to PowerMail users could easily give short-time depression. Anyway, I've had it. I'll look for a new client and export (on of the great features of PowerMail) what I need and that is it. I have life, a job and I can't be bothered any more. Bye! MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB/MB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2875 - 08/30/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2875 - Monday, August 30, 2010 Re: bye bye PowerMail by Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net -- Subject: Re: bye bye PowerMail From: Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:36:18 -0400 Sorry MB... Sometimes we rant and work for solutions for things that are unique to our particular situation. I recently had server-related issues that I brought to this forum - thinking PM was the problem... when it wasn't. In the decade I've used PM... I never had the issue you describe. I have found some helpful people here and the CTM folks have always been available and fair-minded from my experience. Best regards, Paul For the umpteenth time PowerMail chooses to re-download month old messages. I don't care that you're not supposed to leave messages on the server with POP mail because other clients using other accounts at the same provider (gmail in this case) do not exercise this problem and can for whatever reason get along with mail servers and if not they handle duplicates better. I've had this problem for years and it cost me all the time I initially saved starting to use PM times 100 (at least). I bug reported this problem an related ones, listened in on the connection and made logs, analyzed the results and discussed them here on list. I never felt that CTM gave a toss despite repeated efforts on my part to express my willingness to cooperate with them to solve the problem - something that is a no-brainer in contact with other small developers - nor did I feel that this user community can replace CTM. For years I've seen that many people that ask for solutions for important problems got attacked. Very few people wanted to cooperate on finding solutions. I wrote then addressing the user community, though I never posted: Is it really that hard to work together in order to create a community that could advance the usage of PowerMail, attracting new users and encourage the developers to consolidate and expand on the vision this app really has entrenched in its soul? Are PowerMail users a bunch of pessimists? I'd rather not think that, but subscribing to PowerMail users could easily give short-time depression. Anyway, I've had it. I'll look for a new client and export (on of the great features of PowerMail) what I need and that is it. I have life, a job and I can't be bothered any more. Bye! MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB/MB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2876 - 08/31/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2876 - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 Re: bye bye PowerMail by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: bye bye PowerMail - not so fast pussycat by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: bye bye PowerMail by Jefferis Peterson jeffe...@petersonsales.net Re: bye bye PowerMail by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re(2): bye bye PowerMail by Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net Re: bye bye PowerMail by Tim lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re(2): bye bye PowerMail by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: bye bye PowerMail by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com -- Subject: Re: bye bye PowerMail From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:21:52 +0200 Paul Raybould suggested: Sometimes we rant and work for solutions for things that are unique to our particular situation. I recently had server-related issues that I brought to this forum - thinking PM was the problem... when it wasn't. Well. I have looked at this problem very carefully. This set of problems have been there server after server (including my own), account after account, PM version after version and fresh database or not since 2004 at least. You have no idea what's behind this kind of problem. If PM is not to blame, then why would another email application not display this problem with the same account and the same data on the same server? At least after some time as with PM, the same set problem would be likely to reappear. Granted, this is a hard problem to track down. It has not manifested on all accounts all the time, just on a few and have been somewhat elusive. That's one reason why its resolution needed cooperation. In the decade I've used PM... I never had the issue you describe. As far as you can tell, yes. But the thing is how do you know that you have missed a message? The very possibility that this could occur is not something you want to feel about an email application. Nor do you want tens of thousands of duplicates of messages because your connection dropped off. Maybe POP is to blame in the end, but then again why doesn't this problem creep up in other POP email applications I've tried? I once started using PowerMail because I wanted an app that wouldn't get between me an my email. PowerMail is still very nice in theory, but in practice it have become nuisance and a timewaster for me. I need my time so I need to stop using it for new messages. I suppose I'll keep it for most of the old ones. I'm still fond of the basics of the interface, perhaps because I've been using macs for so long it feels familiar and friendly in most aspects. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB/MB /MB -- Subject: Re: bye bye PowerMail - not so fast pussycat From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:05:04 +0200 I decided to give it another shot at supplying CTM with some fresh data that might be useful in fixing the problem. For the community and CTM and the fact no other user should have to encounter this bug or communication failure. But not this week, I have too much programming to do. My apologies for venting here. /MB I told: Paul Raybould suggested: Sometimes we rant and work for solutions for things that are unique to our particular situation. I recently had server-related issues that I brought to this forum - thinking PM was the problem... when it wasn't. Well. I have looked at this problem very carefully. This set of problems have been there server after server (including my own), account after account, PM version after version and fresh database or not since 2004 at least. You have no idea what's behind this kind of problem. If PM is not to blame, then why would another email application not display this problem with the same account and the same data on the same server? At least after some time as with PM, the same set problem would be likely to reappear. Granted, this is a hard problem to track down. It has not manifested on all accounts all the time, just on a few and have been somewhat elusive. That's one reason why its resolution needed cooperation. In the decade I've used PM... I never had the issue you describe. As far as you can tell, yes. But the thing is how do you know that you have missed a message? The very possibility that this could occur is not something you want to feel about an email application. Nor do you want tens of thousands of duplicates of messages because your connection dropped off. Maybe POP is to blame in the end, but then again why doesn't this problem creep up in other POP email applications I've tried? I once started using PowerMail because I wanted an app that wouldn't get between me an my email. PowerMail is still very nice in theory, but in practice it have become nuisance and a timewaster for
powermail-discuss Digest #2877 - 09/01/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2877 - Wednesday, September 1, 2010 Re: bye bye PowerMail by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: bye bye PowerMail From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:55:09 +0200 Tim lapin said: I have not yet played with Apple Mail enough yet to get a sense of its abilities to handle such things but I can't imagine it would be any different from the rest of the better ones. Zero duplicates in my experience with tens of thousands of messages with Apple Mail. But it does not matter much with specific figures from different people. It's still anecdotal data. Also, an actual comparison has to be made with a reliable control, such as webmail and counting the messages in some acceptable way in order to get a figure to compare with. Then running analytical tools on a POP connection log for a long time on affected accounts could perhaps turn up some patterns that could be a foundation for finding a solution. Or anyone have a better idea? Given that POP is the offender - if that is so - isn't quite amusing that so few email clients have handing of duplicates built-in? It's not like it can't be done. I translated such a duplicates script to PowerMail years ago and at least 10 people have used it in some version. After all, getting duplicates and getting rid of them safely is way better than losing messages. I was working - also years ago - on another script for getting discussion threads based o the current message, hit a wall and later CTM implemented thread searches. I wish they would have done the same for duplicates. If so, getting messages re-downloaded would not be such a nuisance. I have had tens of thousands of duplicates during the years. It's possible that my connections have been more bad than others, I can't really say for sure. But other connection critical connections have not been dropped often enough to manifest problems. When I ran my own server (Mac OS X Server), connections worked very well and other accounts were not affected as far as the account holders were concerned. Still, I had this problem there. I posted data from there back then, but maybe too little. While I can handle duplicates via scripting they still turn up under new messages and take up mindspace. I suppose I could make a filter based on date, get to the parent folder in question and run the script on the folders older messages and set the filter to not make them hit new messages, but then again that would really slow down my mailfetching, which I normally do every few minutes or every hour or so. Also I don't have time writing scripts to patch PowerMail anymore. In the end it's not about the the email client, it's about the messages. Anything getting in the way of my messages have to go. Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB/MB /MB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2878 - 09/02/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2878 - Thursday, September 2, 2010 mime msg doesn't show body by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: mime msg doesn't show body by Charles Watts-Jones charle...@pobox.com Re: mime msg doesn't show body by Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de -- Subject: mime msg doesn't show body From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:00:56 -0400 Hi all, I'm trying to track down an issue that started recently. A company I deal with (buy.com) sends special-offer email with their deals of the week. Until recently, they had text part (set as my default) and an html part that showed if I clicked the little icon at the bottom of the mail browser (Show HTML, Show plain text... etc) But for about two weeks now nothing shows. No plain text, no html, and no icon when that message is selected. The message shows fine in Apple's Mail. Now just today I received one from a different company (financial institution) with the same characteristic. Looking at the header, which is all I can see after all, I notice that they're both from flonetwork.com (an emailer company, acquired by Doubleclick and now part of Google). In the older messages that displayed OK there was this indicator for content ... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Boundary_(ID_n780nyha+GKpAsj+z2dGlQ) The new messages have a different specification, shown in context below with the initial part of the text = start snippet MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary*0=; boundary*1=000 --000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Buy.com Weekly Deals http://enews.buy.com/cgi-bin5/DM/y/mxir0Mgssr0RAs0Cmyx0HG = end snippet I'm not familiar with rules for MIME but I notice that now there are two boundary specifications and neither is in quotes. The two, put together, are the same as the boundary (with two extra hyphens - before the first and intermediate ones, and after the final one). Does anyone have any idea what's broken here?? Thanks.Peter PM pane begins === -- RFC822 Header Follows -- Return-path: buy.com_off...@enews.buy.com Received: from smtpin133.mac.com ([10.150.68.133]) by ms152.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-17.01 64bit (built Jun 8 2010)) with ESMTP id 0l8400as977ut...@ms152.mac.com for plov...@mac.com; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-recipient: rfc822;plov...@mac.com Received: from mta.enews.buy.com ([198.31.62.65]) by smtpin133.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-16.01 64bit (built May 20 2010)) with ESMTP id 0l8400iwp75s6...@smtpin133.mac.com for plov...@mac.com (ORCPT plov...@mac.com); Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:16:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0. definitions=2010-09-02_05:2010-09-02,2010-09-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=100 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-100420 definitions=main-1009020041 Return-path: buy.com_off...@enews.buy.com DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;s=dk; d=enews.buy.com; h=Received:Date:Message-Id:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:MIME- Version:Content-Type; b=RGMszuoJvjvPsHptnysbvJaFY4w8G85gIHj1RGmgdFroy6FGKb9+996bed6CfbGJ ZMb8zHjDB7y1wzjxYqefRbhRy7s2UnGjzW+kJ6+WvQz+Jz//MG5yM0qONxvu8hYE Received: from [10.21.250.223] ([10.21.250.223:1300] helo=CORE5PUMPER1) by pcomtanode15 (envelope-from buy.com_off...@enews.buy.com) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r(34222M)) with ESMTP id C1/10-13910-8897F7C4; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 06:16:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 06:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: kilauea178483-61244-162593083-3-1...@flonetwork.com From: Buy.com Deals buy.com_off...@enews.buy.com Reply-to: Buy.com Deals buy.com_offers-ctg0aeb62aacxezqtmhzhngh66mia...@enews.buy.com To: plov...@mac.com Subject: Samsung 20 LCD Monitor $103.00, Wii Fit Charging Stand w/ Battery Pack $14.99, Motorola Bluetooth Headset $28.49, Kodak 12.3MP Camera $75.99,.. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary*0=; boundary*1=000 --- PM pane ends === -- Subject: Re: mime msg doesn't show body From: Charles Watts-Jones charle...@pobox.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:08:39 +0200 On 2 September Peter Lovell wrote: I'm trying to track down an issue
powermail-discuss Digest #2879 - 09/08/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2879 - Wednesday, September 8, 2010 Easy way to solving problems with PM on more then one computer by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net -- Subject: Easy way to solving problems with PM on more then one computer From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:17:56 +0200 My colleague Daniel posted the idea on an other (Macintosh-)Mailinglist and I will tell you now step by step how you can make mobile your PowerMail, regardless on which computer you actually work (home office, office, or laptop). Works on Macintosh (up to OS 10.6.4) with all kind of suitable PM Versions: 1. Take a USB stick (with a capacity of some GB, depending on the size of your PowerMail-database). Formate-it as Mac OS Extended (without (Journaled), swallows less stick space). 2. Install a virgin version of PowerMail on this stick. (Download: http://www.ctmdev.com/download/) Make a (program-)folder and put PM into it. 3. Copy into this program folder all other program files of PM from the existing place on your computer to the stick, especially - Message Database Index - PMKey - SpamSieve (if included) 4. Copy the personal folder PowerMail Files (includes personal Message Datbase, Server-side Database etc.) to the stick. 5. Copy the PowerMail Library folder (user/library/Application Support/ PowerMail) to the stick. Now you should have 3 folders on your stick: - PowerMail (program) - PowerMail Files (personal mail data) - Library 6. Ensure the Access right for you as user on _all_ this folders (and include all subfolders too!) on the information window of each of the 3 main folders (Command + I). -- Important: For to testing only how it works, zip all the concerned original folders on your computer (PM Program, PowerMail Files, PM Library) to keep-it and delete the original folders. (Zipping works by clicking on the folder symbol together with ctrl button.) Otherwise your computer goes the previous way! 7. Empty trash folder and restart your computer with the connected stick. 8. Open PowerMail on the stick (posting a program Alias on the top of the stick makes it easier in future). Maybe PM crashes the first time. Restart-it - then it should work, asking first for the place of your personal PowerMail Files folder. This method works with all versions of Mac OS (down to OS 9 classic and up to Snow Leopard), of course, depending on your PM version. -- From now on you have your PowerMail mobile on your stick wherever you have a mac available - your mails always stood on the newest. B.t.w.: Connect the stick _not_ to the keyboard but directly to the computer. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2880 - 09/09/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2880 - Thursday, September 9, 2010 PM G-Mail by A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com Re: PM G-Mail by Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com Re: PM G-Mail by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: PM G-Mail by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re(2): PM G-Mail by Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net Re: PM G-Mail by Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com -- Subject: PM G-Mail From: A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:56:26 -0500 How do you set up PM to receive mail from a G-Mail account? Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 asa...@sacofoods.com -- Subject: Re: PM G-Mail From: Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:22:48 -0400 I found the info on the google web page relating to gmail. Works fine with pm. Was less successful with mail. Sent from my iPod On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com wrote: How do you set up PM to receive mail from a G-Mail account? Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 asa...@sacofoods.com -- Subject: Re: PM G-Mail From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:48:54 -0400 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010, A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com wrote: How do you set up PM to receive mail from a G-Mail account? Tony Hi Tony, I set mine up this way ... Identity: your_ID@gmail.com Receiving: POP3 User account ID:recent:your_ID@gmail.com Save Password : [check]Use secure connection (SSL/TL): checked [check]Use port: 995 On a dedicated secure port: [select] (I leave messages on server for 30 days - choose your own setting) Sending: Outgoing SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com [check] Authenticate as user: your_ID@gmail.com Password: .. [check]Use secure connection (SSL/TLS) [check]Use port: 587 Using the STARTTLS command [select] Cheers.Peter -- Subject: Re: PM G-Mail From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:49:06 +0200 Thomas Miller said: I found the info on the google web page relating to gmail. Works fine with pm. Was less successful with mail. Yeah, that automatic setup in Mail was a real nuisance. The most irritating part being that it just worked effortlessly. How dare they? Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB /MB -- Subject: Re(2): PM G-Mail From: Paul Raybould praybo...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:49:58 -0400 Thank you Peter. Wanted to add: incoming mail server - pop.gmail.com I just set it up. Is Yahoo Mail setup as easy? Paul On Wed, Sep 8, 2010, A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com wrote: How do you set up PM to receive mail from a G-Mail account? Tony Hi Tony, I set mine up this way ... Identity: your_ID@gmail.com Receiving: POP3 User account ID:recent:your_ID@gmail.com Save Password : [check]Use secure connection (SSL/TL): checked [check]Use port: 995 On a dedicated secure port: [select] (I leave messages on server for 30 days - choose your own setting) Sending: Outgoing SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com [check] Authenticate as user: your_ID@gmail.com Password: .. [check]Use secure connection (SSL/TLS) [check]Use port: 587 Using the STARTTLS command [select] Cheers.Peter -- Subject: Re: PM G-Mail From: Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:25:53 -0400 This was a couple years ago when I tried to set up in Mail. Will try again -- thanks for the prodding. I rarely use Mail. Sent from my iPod On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:49 AM, MB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Miller said: I found the info on the google web page relating to gmail. Works fine with pm. Was less successful with mail. Yeah, that automatic setup in Mail was a real nuisance. The most irritating part being that it just worked effortlessly. How dare they? Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB /MB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2881 - 09/14/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2881 - Tuesday, September 14, 2010 Clever SPAM content - how to filter? by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net -- Subject: Clever SPAM content - how to filter? From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:53:21 +0200 I get all two days a (porn-)SPAM, which constant is only, that there is a link in the mail content, starting with this string characters: !-- I guess, just because of that signs the Power Mail Filter (set on: Content - contains the exact phrase: !--) can not identify this phrase. Any idea how to filter-it? (All other content before and after the link, which starts with that string-sign is always a different accumulation of meaningless words - nothing for a filter command.) -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2882 - 09/16/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2882 - Thursday, September 16, 2010 Re: PM G-Mail by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com -- Subject: Re: PM G-Mail From: T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:27:01 -0400 Gmail is set up as a pop account in PM, and setting it up automatically in Mail, it is an imap account. On 9/9/10, at 11:25 AM, Thomas Miller tlmil...@mac.com said: This was a couple years ago when I tried to set up in Mail. Will try again -- thanks for the prodding. I rarely use Mail. Sent from my iPod On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:49 AM, MB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Miller said: I found the info on the google web page relating to gmail. Works fine with pm. Was less successful with mail. Yeah, that automatic setup in Mail was a real nuisance. The most irritating part being that it just worked effortlessly. How dare they? Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB /MB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2883 - 09/22/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2883 - Wednesday, September 22, 2010 Re: PM G-Mail by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re(2): PM G-Mail by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com -- Subject: Re: PM G-Mail From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:23:59 +0200 T.L. Miller skrev 2010-09-15 23.27: Gmail is set up as a pop account in PM, and setting it up automatically in Mail, it is an imap account. This is not necessarily true. When I set up a new account in Mail 3.6 (936) it defaults to POP. Possibly later versions default to IMAP. Nevertheless, setting up gmail in Mail was a snap really. Now, if it'd only work a little more like PowerMail, -- Subject: Re(2): PM G-Mail From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:35:30 -0400 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010, MB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote: Now, if it'd only work a little more like PowerMail Cuts both ways, actually. There are a few ways I'd like PowerMail to be more like Mail. Dragging from an inactive (i.e. not frontmost) window is my long-time hot-button. Overall I like PowerMail much better, but there are a *few* things I'd like to change. Cheers.Peter -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2884 - 09/29/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2884 - Wednesday, September 29, 2010 iPhoto and powermail... again by RockLily rockl...@comcast.net Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by Karsten Liere karstenli...@mac.com Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by RockLily rockl...@comcast.net -- Subject: iPhoto and powermail... again From: RockLily rockl...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:33:58 -0700 I can't believe I'm asking this again, but apparently I trashed the answer the last time. *How* do I get my little PM orange envelope back at the bottom of iPhoto? Just had to reload everything on a new hard disk and apparently my back-up didn't include whatever I had done to it last time. DUH. anyone? thanks, Jo *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Real women don't have hot flashes, they have power surges. -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:34:43 +0200 RockLily wrote: I can't believe I'm asking this again, but apparently I trashed the answer the last time. *How* do I get my little PM orange envelope back at the bottom of iPhoto? Just had to reload everything on a new hard disk and apparently my back-up didn't include whatever I had done to it last time. DUH. No way to import new symbols into that register of iPhoto 09! (It's not made user-friendly.) Two other possibilities: - There is a symbol desktop, activate-it and place an alias of PM on the desktop. - Use the dock (of course, with the PM permanently in it). -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: Karsten Liere karstenli...@mac.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:39:33 +0200 The iPhoto-mailer-patcher 4.1 works just fine: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7741/iphoto-mailer-patcher I can't believe I'm asking this again, but apparently I trashed the answer the last time. *How* do I get my little PM orange envelope back at the bottom of iPhoto? Just had to reload everything on a new hard disk and apparently my back-up didn't include whatever I had done to it last time. DUH. anyone? thanks, Jo *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Real women don't have hot flashes, they have power surges. -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:46:25 +0200 Karsten Liere wrote: The iPhoto-mailer-patcher 4.1 works just fine: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7741/iphoto-mailer-patcher They write that it works for iPhoto 4.0 to 6.0.4 But it does it also for iPhoto 09 (8.1.2) Great! Thanks! -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: RockLily rockl...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:18:17 -0700 Long long ago (or possibly at 1:39 AM on Wed, Sep 29, 2010), in a galaxy far far away, Karsten bespoketh thus: The iPhoto-mailer-patcher 4.1 works just fine: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7741/iphoto-mailer-patcher thank you SO much. I knew it was something stupidly easy, but my brain just wouldn't take me there. Jo `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2885 - 09/30/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2885 - Thursday, September 30, 2010 PM 6.0.5 unopened images by Judith Beiss jbe...@ix.netcom.com -- Subject: PM 6.0.5 unopened images From: Judith Beiss jbe...@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:37:49 -0400 I just upgraded to PM 6.0.5 from 5.2.2 (!) and I find that images no longer open in regular email. I have to switch to a browser (Safari is my default) to see them. Query: How do I tweak PM prefs to have images in emails open up? Cannot seem to find the right tools. thanks, Judy powermail-discuss Digest #2884 - Wednesday, September 29, 2010 iPhoto and powermail... again by RockLily rockl...@comcast.net Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by Karsten Liere karstenli...@mac.com Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: iPhoto and powermail... again by RockLily rockl...@comcast.net -- Subject: iPhoto and powermail... again From: RockLily rockl...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:33:58 -0700 I can't believe I'm asking this again, but apparently I trashed the answer the last time. *How* do I get my little PM orange envelope back at the bottom of iPhoto? Just had to reload everything on a new hard disk and apparently my back-up didn't include whatever I had done to it last time. DUH. anyone? thanks, Jo *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Real women don't have hot flashes, they have power surges. -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:34:43 +0200 RockLily wrote: I can't believe I'm asking this again, but apparently I trashed the answer the last time. *How* do I get my little PM orange envelope back at the bottom of iPhoto? Just had to reload everything on a new hard disk and apparently my back-up didn't include whatever I had done to it last time. DUH. No way to import new symbols into that register of iPhoto 09! (It's not made user-friendly.) Two other possibilities: - There is a symbol desktop, activate-it and place an alias of PM on the desktop. - Use the dock (of course, with the PM permanently in it). -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: Karsten Liere karstenli...@mac.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:39:33 +0200 The iPhoto-mailer-patcher 4.1 works just fine: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7741/iphoto-mailer-patcher I can't believe I'm asking this again, but apparently I trashed the answer the last time. *How* do I get my little PM orange envelope back at the bottom of iPhoto? Just had to reload everything on a new hard disk and apparently my back-up didn't include whatever I had done to it last time. DUH. anyone? thanks, Jo *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Real women don't have hot flashes, they have power surges. -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:46:25 +0200 Karsten Liere wrote: The iPhoto-mailer-patcher 4.1 works just fine: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7741/iphoto-mailer-patcher They write that it works for iPhoto 4.0 to 6.0.4 But it does it also for iPhoto 09 (8.1.2) Great! Thanks! -- Subject: Re: iPhoto and powermail... again From: RockLily rockl...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:18:17 -0700 Long long ago (or possibly at 1:39 AM on Wed, Sep 29, 2010), in a galaxy far far away, Karsten bespoketh thus: The iPhoto-mailer-patcher 4.1 works just fine: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7741/iphoto-mailer-patcher thank you SO much. I knew it was something stupidly easy, but my brain just wouldn't take me there. Jo `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ `º'º~º'º´ If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - 10/01/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - Friday, October 1, 2010 Re: PM 6.0.5 unopened images by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net -- Subject: Re: PM 6.0.5 unopened images From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:52:08 +0200 Judith Beiss wrote: I just upgraded to PM 6.0.5 from 5.2.2 (!) and I find that images no longer open in regular email. I have to switch to a browser (Safari is my default) to see them. Query: How do I tweak PM prefs to have images in emails open up? Cannot seem to find the right tools. How do you mean in regular email? In regular E-mails images never open, because the can be sent only as attachments. Do-you mean HTML-formatted E-mails? In that case you have to check your PM-settings and activate HTML Interpreter -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2887 - 10/02/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2887 - Saturday, October 2, 2010 Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - 10/01/10 by Judith Beiss jbe...@ix.netcom.com Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - 10/01/10 by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - 10/01/10 From: Judith Beiss jbe...@ix.netcom.com Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 18:23:32 -0400 Hello Rene Merz: Thanks for your response. If you're speaking of PM preferences, HTML Reader has 'Download External Pictures' which was the default and checked. PM 6.0.5 does not have HTML Interpreter. I always download email as text and, it does seem to me, that images within an email opened w/o that blue little square box with a question mark in it. powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - Friday, October 1, 2010 Re: PM 6.0.5 unopened images by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net -- Subject: Re: PM 6.0.5 unopened images From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:52:08 +0200 Judith Beiss wrote: I just upgraded to PM 6.0.5 from 5.2.2 (!) and I find that images no longer open in regular email. I have to switch to a browser (Safari is my default) to see them. Query: How do I tweak PM prefs to have images in emails open up? Cannot seem to find the right tools. How do you mean in regular email? In regular E-mails images never open, because the can be sent only as attachments. Do-you mean HTML-formatted E-mails? In that case you have to check your PM-settings and activate HTML Interpreter -- End of powermail-discuss Digest -Judith Beiss- -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - 10/01/10 From: Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 01:28:00 +0200 Judith Beiss (jbe...@ix.netcom.com) wrote: PM 6.0.5 does not have HTML Interpreter. It certainly does, just like previous versions of PM did. I always download email as text and, it does seem to me, that images within an email opened w/o that blue little square box with a question mark in it. Text-based mails don't contain inline images, only images as attachments. You should be able to open these image files by double clicking. You don't see those little square boxes with question marks outside HTML mails and only when you have told PM not to load these images automatically (you can load the images using the popup menu at the bottom of the window). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2888 - 10/05/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2888 - Tuesday, October 5, 2010 Re: Clever SPAM content - how to filter? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: Clever SPAM content - how to filter? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 02:10:47 +0200 Rene Merz skrev 2010-09-13 20.53: I get all two days a (porn-)SPAM, which constant is only, that there is a link in the mail content, starting with this string characters: !-- Read up on how PowerMail parses strings. I can't recal details but I remember it's not working exactly the way I expected it. I leave all spam-problems to SpamSieve. I get perhaps 10 spams getting trough every year. I guess, just because of that signs the Power Mail Filter (set on: Content - contains the exact phrase: !--) can not identify this phrase. Any idea how to filter-it? (All other content before and after the link, which starts with that string-sign is always a different accumulation of meaningless words - nothing for a filter command.) -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2889 - 10/22/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2889 - Friday, October 22, 2010 2 GB limit by Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Re: 2 GB limit by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re: 2 GB limit by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Re(2): 2 GB limit by Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Re: 2 GB limit by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Re: 2 GB limit by Mirko Kranenburg mirko.li...@gmail.com -- Subject: 2 GB limit From: Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:24:21 +0200 Dear PowerMail-discuss members, The wrote the mail below on Oct 12th to CTM, no reaction, apparently they not only ceased development but also support. Maybe somebody here knows how they will handle 2GB-limit in the future, if not then I will be forced to switch to another mail client. -- For more that 10 years I'm using Power Mail, I get and send a big amount of mails every day, so Power Mail has become a constant companion. Two year ago I reached the 2MB limit and was almost forced to change mailclient but then Jérôme gave me the hint about unsupported hack to let two copies of PowerMail run so I devided my accounts and continued using PowerMail. Once again I'm close to the 2MB limit and no new version in sight. This leeds to my question, will there be a new version with no limits coming soon? I understand that you will not share any details about a new version but I'd like to know if it's worth waiting or if it would be better change mail client which I really would regret. -- Paul Schneider -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:17:48 +0200 (It's a pitty. CM support doesn't react since weeks. Longe queue of mails - failure report comes back. Telephone is not working neither. Strange behaviour, really! Very annoying) Dear PowerMail-discuss members, The wrote the mail below on Oct 12th to CTM, no reaction, apparently they not only ceased development but also support. Maybe somebody here knows how they will handle 2GB-limit in the future, if not then I will be forced to switch to another mail client. -- For more that 10 years I'm using Power Mail, I get and send a big amount of mails every day, so Power Mail has become a constant companion. Two year ago I reached the 2MB limit and was almost forced to change mailclient but then Jérôme gave me the hint about unsupported hack to let two copies of PowerMail run so I devided my accounts and continued using PowerMail. Once again I'm close to the 2MB limit and no new version in sight. This leeds to my question, will there be a new version with no limits coming soon? I understand that you will not share any details about a new version but I'd like to know if it's worth waiting or if it would be better change mail client which I really would regret. -- Paul Schneider -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:59:23 +0200 Paul, No, we haven't ceased support or answering, we have tied up amidst releasing new versions of our FoxTrot line of products [and the associated technical answers] and personal issues, it is true that PowerMail support has languished and I apologize for this. It really shouldn't take this long to get back to you. Two questions to you: - Are you regularly compacting your database ? What is the size of your database afterwards ? - Have you tried the archiving function in PowerMail, which we precisely designed as a way to move older data out of one's database ? Kind regards, Chantal Favre CTM Development SA ctm-i...@ctmdev.com - In my first minutes with PowerMail 6, I've already been able to archive a vast amount of my e-mail database and everything is running brilliantly... Many thanks to CTM ! Ricardo Pinto, PowerMail version 6 owner (unsolicited commment) Download demo versions of PowerMail and FoxTrot Search products: http://www.ctmdev.com - On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Paul Schneider wrote: Dear PowerMail-discuss members, The wrote the mail below on Oct 12th to CTM, no reaction, apparently they not only ceased development but also support. Maybe somebody here knows how they will handle 2GB-limit in the future, if not then I will be forced to switch to another mail client. -- For more that 10 years I'm using Power Mail, I get and send a big amount of mails every day, so Power Mail has become a constant companion. Two year ago I reached the 2MB limit and was almost forced to change mailclient but then Jérôme gave me the hint about unsupported hack to let two copies of PowerMail run
powermail-discuss Digest #2890 - 11/06/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2890 - Saturday, November 6, 2010 2 GB limit by Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Re: 2 GB limit by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re(2): 2 GB limit by Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Re: Re(2): 2 GB limit by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re(4): 2 GB limit by Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Re: Re(4): 2 GB limit by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re(6): 2 GB limit by Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at -- Subject: 2 GB limit From: Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:13:36 +0100 Since I didn't get any reply to my mail from 22.10.2010, I now repeat my question: Are there plans to give up the 2 GB limit? Paul -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:22:18 -0400 On 5-Nov-10, at 3:13 PM, Paul Schneider wrote: Since I didn't get any reply to my mail from 22.10.2010, I now repeat my question: Are there plans to give up the 2 GB limit? P I saw the reply to that email... Synopsis: 1: no 2: use archive feature -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re(2): 2 GB limit From: Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:57:35 +0100 John Snippe (j...@snippe.ca) wrote at Fr, 5. Nov 2010, 15:22 Uhr: I saw the reply to that email... I have read the reply too but still I didn't get an answer to my question. For the stated reasons workarounds are no solution, to take a decision I have to know if they will drop the limit in the next future. Paul -- Subject: Re: Re(2): 2 GB limit From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:06:08 -0400 On 5-Nov-10, at 3:57 PM, Paul Schneider wrote: to take a decision I have to know if they will drop the limit in the next future. Given that they didn't follow-up on that supplementary request for info, I think you'd be safe to assume no... -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re(4): 2 GB limit From: Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 21:42:49 +0100 John Snippe (j...@snippe.ca) wrote at Fr, 5. Nov 2010, 16:06 Uhr: Given that they didn't follow-up on that supplementary request for info, I think you'd be safe to assume no... I'm fraid so too, but still I wanted to give it one last try before I pension off my constant companion PowerMail. Paul -- Subject: Re: Re(4): 2 GB limit From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:16:09 -0400 On 5-Nov-10, at 4:42 PM, Paul Schneider wrote: I'm fraid so too, but still I wanted to give it one last try before I pension off my constant companion PowerMail. There actually is life after PM, Paul. I had to leave it behind part- time for a year, as I had to split my time between two locations and only had one PM license (and didn't want to buy a second). That 'part time' finally ended up being full-time... I now no longer use PM. Still miss some of it's features, but one gets over such things ;) -- John Snippe -- Subject: Re(6): 2 GB limit From: Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 23:11:46 +0100 John Snippe (j...@snippe.ca) wrote at Fr, 5. Nov 2010, 17:16 Uhr: There actually is life after PM, Paul. I had to leave it behind part- time for a year, as I had to split my time between two locations and only had one PM license (and didn't want to buy a second). That 'part time' finally ended up being full-time... I now no longer use PM. Still miss some of it's features, but one gets over such things ;) Thank you John, good to know that I'm not the only one. In case CTM keeps ignoring my question about the limit, I'm afraid that I have to drop PM too. Paul -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2891 - 11/09/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2891 - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 Re: 2 GB limit by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:54:06 +0100 Hello Paul, Contrary to popular belief, removing the 2GB per database maximum size limit is a considerable endeavour indeed; we have favored two alternate routes instead: - the archiving feature that appeared in PowerMail 6 which makes it practical to reduce the size of an active database while keeping access to former data, and - the ability to have all current and former databases indexed from FoxTrot Personal Search so that one can have as many 2GB mail databases searched in one go. Regards, jean michel/ctm qa On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:13:36 +0100, Paul Schneider powerm...@speedware.at wrote: Since I didn't get any reply to my mail from 22.10.2010, I now repeat my question: Are there plans to give up the 2 GB limit? Paul -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2893 - 11/11/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2893 - Thursday, November 11, 2010 Re: 2 GB limit by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Re: 2 GB limit by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: 2 GB limit by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Re: 2 GB limit by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: 2 GB limit by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Re(2): 2 GB limit by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: 2 GB limit by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: Creator Codes by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: 2 GB limit by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: Creator Codes by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: 2 GB limit by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Re: 2 GB limit by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Re: 2 GB limit by Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Re: 2 GB limit by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Re: Creator Codes by Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Re(2): 2 GB limit by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re: Creator Codes by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Re: Creator Codes by Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:10:14 + Sean McBride (9/11/10, 02:31) said: Which email client are you all switching to? I'm not sure which to choose What are the pluses and minuses of switching to Apple Mail? I know it was hinky in the past, but I think that many of the problems that it used to suffer from have now been resolved. The main things that have kept me from switching are that PowerMail has better filtering and notifications, and maybe better searching. The advantages of switching (that I know about) are: 1. Separate databases for each mailbox rather than a single monolithic database (this solves the 2GB limit issue and backup problem) 2. Threading 3. Decent IMAP support 4. Decent HTML support (not so important to me personally) I've kind-of been preparing for a switch by archiving old mail into Apple Mail - in an attempt to stay below the 2GB limit (and vainly hoping that CTM would fix PowerMail in the meantime). Jeremy -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:32:47 +0100 Jeremy Hughes wrote (Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:10:14 +): [Apple Mail] 1. Separate databases for each mailbox rather than a single monolithic database (this solves the 2GB limit issue and backup problem) Just to be accurate: Nowadays Apple Mail saves each _message_ as a single file, MBOX was dropped with the Tiger version. Of course, this also solves both issues. I just wanted to point this out because some people don't like the idea of having thousands of message files, too. Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:47:02 + Tobias Jung (11/11/10, 13:32) said: Nowadays Apple Mail saves each _message_ as a single file, MBOX was dropped with the Tiger version. You're right... ... and yet searching seems to be very fast (but with fewer options than PowerMail, unless I'm missing something). Of course, this also solves both issues. I just wanted to point this out because some people don't like the idea of having thousands of message files, too. I'd rather have separate message files than a single monolithic database. So this is another way that PowerMail could go. I'm not sure what's so wrong with having thousands of message files - most application packages (e.g. Safari) contain thousands of resource files. Jeremy -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:13:27 +0100 SmVyZW15IEh1Z2hlcyB3cm90ZSAoVGh1LCAxMSBOb3YgMjAxMCAxMzo0NzowMiArMDAwMCk6DQoN Cj4gVG9iaWFzIEp1bmcgKDExLzExLzEwLCAxMzozMikgc2FpZDoNCj4gDQo+PiBOb3dhZGF5cyBB cHBsZSBNYWlsIHNhdmVzIGVhY2ggX21lc3NhZ2VfIGFzIGEgc2luZ2xlIGZpbGUsIE1CT1ggd2Fz DQo+PiBkcm9wcGVkIHdpdGggdGhlIFRpZ2VyIHZlcnNpb24uDQo+IA0KPiBZb3UncmUgcmlnaHQu Li4NCj4gDQo+IC4uLiBhbmQgeWV0IHNlYXJjaGluZyBzZWVtcyB0byBiZSB2ZXJ5IGZhc3QgKGJ1 dCB3aXRoIGZld2VyIG9wdGlvbnMgdGhhbg0KPiBQb3dlck1haWwsIHVubGVzcyBJJ20gbWlzc2lu ZyBzb21ldGhpbmcpLg0KDQpJIGFncmVlIOKAkyBzZWFyY2hpbmcgc2VlbXMgcXVpdGUgZmFzdCBp biBBcHBsZSBNYWlsLCBidXQgSSBjYW4ndCBzYXkgdGhhdA0KZm9yIHN1cmUsIHNpbmNlIEkndmUg dGVzdGVkIHRoaXMgd2l0aCBhIGZldyBodW5kcmVkIG9mIG1lc3NhZ2VzIGluIE1haWwNCndoaWxl IEkgY3VycmVudGx5IGhhdmUgMzUsMDAwKyBtZXNzYWdlcyBzdG9yZWQgaW4gUG93ZXJNYWlsLg0K U28gSSByZWFsbHkgZG9uJ3Qga25vdyBvZiBBcHBsZSBNYWlsIF9yZWFsbHlfIGlzIGZhc3QuDQoN
powermail-discuss Digest #2894 - 11/12/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2894 - Friday, November 12, 2010 Re(3): 2 GB limit by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: 2 GB limit by Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Re(2): 2 GB limit by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Re(3): 2 GB limit by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: 2 GB limit by Lane Roathe l...@roathe.com Re: 2 GB limit by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Re: 2 GB limit by Jim Pistrang j...@jpcr.com Re: 2 GB limit by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de -- Subject: Re(3): 2 GB limit From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:55:16 -0500 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010, George Henne g...@nsbasic.com wrote: I just checked - PowerMail is responsible for 90% of of the backup activity on my system. (I use TimeMachine). The problem is that if just one email comes in an hour (which always happens), the complete database gets backed up again. One database per folder would reduce the backup requirements dramatically. There would be less load on the system, and my Time Machine would be able backups for a much longer time period. This scenario is perfect for the sparse-bundle-disk-image setup. -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Rene Merz r.m...@telquel.net Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:16:54 +0100 I just checked - PowerMail is responsible for 90% of of the backup activity on my system. (I use TimeMachine). The problem is that if just one email comes in an hour (which always happens), the complete database gets backed up again. One database per folder would reduce the backup requirements dramatically. There would be less load on the system, and my Time Machine would be able backups for a much longer time period. TimeMachineEditor is a free software to stop TimeMachine's every-hour-backup. With this software you can choose and program the starting times by your own. (I'm very satisfied with and make only four TimeMachine-backups a day.) http://timesoftware.free.fr/timemachineeditor/ -- Subject: Re(2): 2 GB limit From: Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:50:55 -0700 Time machine has some very nice characteristics, but don't use it over a network. Check out Crashplan.com -- the basic software is free. I moved my company to it this summer, and it's working great. The free version does a backup once a day, or you can buy a version that can do more frequent backups, like hourly. I use the free version to backup all my family machines to my big home machine. As for powermail - there are a few things I don't like, but for the most part it does what I need and I've not seen anything else that matches it. I get 300-500 emails a day, much of it spam, or routine stuff. I toss out about 300+ messages a day. I archive certain folders every year, if I need to search the data, I can. When Powermail 7 comes out, I'll upgrade without a thought. I've lived with it's little bugs and weirdness for years...I've not lost data, and I can find what I need. I'm just happy there are developers who want to create products that so many people are giving away. I hope CTM can keep it's customer base so they can invest in future releases so I hope those who need 2gb+ mail databases can get what they want and stick with the product. +---+ Bill Schjelderup, President b...@companioncorp.com COMPanion Corporation801-365-0555 voice 1831 Fort Union Blvd. 801-943-7752 fax Salt Lake City, Utah 84121-3041 www.companioncorp.com +---+ Nusquam est qui ubique est. - He who is everywhere is nowhere. This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are NOT the intended recipient, I'm sorry to bother you and will attempt to address my messages more carefully in the future. I just checked - PowerMail is responsible for 90% of of the backup activity on my system. (I use TimeMachine). The problem is that if just one email comes in an hour (which always happens), the complete database gets backed up again. One database per folder would reduce the backup requirements dramatically. There would be less load on the system, and my Time Machine would be able backups for a much longer time period. TimeMachineEditor is a free software to stop TimeMachine's every-hour-backup. With this software you can choose and program the starting times by your own. (I'm very satisfied with and make only four TimeMachine-backups a day.) http://timesoftware.free.fr/timemachineeditor/
powermail-discuss Digest #2895 - 11/13/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2895 - Saturday, November 13, 2010 Re: 2 GB limit by Lane Roathe l...@roathe.com -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Lane Roathe l...@roathe.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:00:52 -0600 on Fri, Nov 12, 2010 Jim Pistrang j...@jpcr.com may have said: I just pruned my DB to keep it under the 2GB limit, so it only has a little over 25,000 emails. Do you really mean 25,000? Yes, but that's after pruning. ie, 25,000 in a 250MB DB file. My PM database is under 600 MB with 90,000 messages. My 1.8GB DB had over 400,000 messages in it. I keep my backups DBs at about 1GB each, and they average about 200,000 emails. (Sizes do not include index, but are after compacting the DB). Lane Roathe, CEO Ideas From the Deep, llc http://www.ideasfromthedeep.com ___ We are Micro$oft. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2896 - 11/14/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2896 - Sunday, November 14, 2010 Re: 2 GB limit by MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:36:16 +0100 22 okt 2010 kl. 12.19 skrev Jeremy Hughes: The monolithic database format is also an issue for backup programs that work at a file level (Retrospect, Time Machine etc.) These have to back up the entire database (rather than active or changed mailboxes) every time they run. Erroneous assumption. QRecall is an intelligent incremental backup solution that can capture and preserve the changes made to a single document, a folder, or an entire volume. QRecall is unique in that it analyzes the data in each file and captures only the data that actually changed. This is substantially more efficient than copying entire files. Qrecall http://www.qrecall.com. We work with large Audio and Video files and at $40 this fine backup app was a total nobrainer. /MB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2897 - 11/15/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2897 - Monday, November 15, 2010 Re: 2 GB limit by Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: Jeremy Hughes jer...@softpress.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:52:04 + MiB (14/11/10, 07:36) said: The monolithic database format is also an issue for backup programs that work at a file level (Retrospect, Time Machine etc.) Erroneous assumption. I think you missed my point, even though you quoted it. QRecall, by its own description, doesn't work at a file level. Jeremy -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2898 - 11/17/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2898 - Wednesday, November 17, 2010 Re(4): 2 GB limit by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com -- Subject: Re(4): 2 GB limit From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:11:16 -0500 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010, CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com wrote: for people trying to work around the 2GB limit, being asked to buy another application is not a good answer, IMHO. I can agree to this point of view. There is something we can do here: if a consensus builds that our approach to indexing archived mail in FoxTrot Personal Search is a technically acceptable, second-best acceptable option to working around the 2GB max database size (one that also has advantages, since: - it lets you index the rest of your life, including attachments and documents) - archiving allows you not to have to backup one huge database at every change, i.e. in TimeCapsule then we would be ready to make these PowerMail owners a fair , one-time offer they can't refuse on FoxTrot Personal Search. Let me know in private e-mail. On the IMAP topic: I agree too. Since the iPhone came along, personally I've been running PowerMail in parallel with the iPhone mail client Apple Mail. PowerMail is the client of choice for authoring messages, replying to received mail, archiving while I use AppleMail as a second opinion view on my e-mail accounts, one which has the advantage of good, multi-account IMAP and notifications in the dock. The two really coexist well. Kind regards, jean michel Hi Jean Michel, I haven't seen much response to your proposal but I think it is a good one. Does anyone else agree? Do we have any takers for it ?? As regards the dual approach for IMAP (PowerMail + AppleMail) - I have been doing this for a while (even though I don't have multiple IMAP accounts, as some do). It does work quite well. Regards.Peter -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2899 - 11/18/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2899 - Thursday, November 18, 2010 Re(4): 2 GB limit by Mark S. P. Smith mspsm...@gol.com -- Subject: Re(4): 2 GB limit From: Mark S. P. Smith mspsm...@gol.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:01:30 + I for one may take Jean Michel up on this offer. I do not need to get around the 2 GB limit, but being able to search through all the attachments as well as the message database itself makes this worth considering. I have some old archived mail folders (for long dead accounts) which it would also be useful to search occasionally. Mark At Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:18:28 +0100, the quick nimble fingers of CTM info wrote: Mark, On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:01:20 +, Mark S. P. Smith mspsm...@gol.com wrote: for people trying to work around the 2GB limit, being asked to buy another application is not a good answer, IMHO. I can agree to this point of view. There is something we can do here: if a consensus builds that our approach to indexing archived mail in FoxTrot Personal Search is a technically acceptable, second-best acceptable option to working around the 2GB max database size (one that also has advantages, since: - it lets you index the rest of your life, including attachments and documents) - archiving allows you not to have to backup one huge database at every change, i.e. in TimeCapsule then we would be ready to make these PowerMail owners a fair , one-time offer they can't refuse on FoxTrot Personal Search. Let me know in private e-mail. On the IMAP topic: I agree too. Since the iPhone came along, personally I've been running PowerMail in parallel with the iPhone mail client Apple Mail. PowerMail is the client of choice for authoring messages, replying to received mail, archiving while I use AppleMail as a second opinion view on my e-mail accounts, one which has the advantage of good, multi-account IMAP and notifications in the dock. The two really coexist well. Kind regards, jean michel -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2900 - 11/19/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2900 - Friday, November 19, 2010 Does CTM really exist or is the customer service just abysmal? by Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com Re: Does CTM really exist or is the customer service just abysmal? by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Fwd: Your personal PowerMail 6 registration info ! by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2899 - 11/18/10 by joe hallett joe...@mac.com -- Subject: Does CTM really exist or is the customer service just abysmal? From: Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:59:29 -0800 Ok, I hate to put this on the public list, but I am about to give up. Or, maybe some things got lost in spam filters, in which case this has a better chance of getting through.. I have been using Powermail for 7 years. I have had several licences for my company. When PM6 came out, I upgraded two of them, and paid for the multiple upgrade. I have a receipt for what I paid. At the time I got the new key, I actually only installed one copy. Back in June or July, I went to upgrade the other copy, and found out that CTM had sent me a licence key for only one copy, not the multiple I had paid for. I emailed them at the time (late June or early July ). I emailed them a week later (mid July). I emailed them in mid August. At that point I got an email saying that the person was in a course and would respond the next week. Never happened. I tried again in September. No response. I have sent a total of about 7 emails now and still do not have my very simple problem solved. CTM, this is absurdly bad customer service. I want my license key or I want my money back. Please reply publicly to this list, just to let us know someone is actually there! Bob Parks -- Subject: Re: Does CTM really exist or is the customer service just abysmal? From: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:13:08 -0500 On 19-Nov-10, at 11:59 AM, Bob Parks wrote: Please reply publicly to this list, just to let us know someone is actually there! Bob Parks They are around, Bob. We get occasional responsive missives... -- John Snippe -- Subject: Fwd: Your personal PowerMail 6 registration info ! From: CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:36:45 +0200 Hello Bob, As far as I could tell, this case was closed over two months ago when we sent you your second key. Please see the actual key forwarded to you in separate mail; you asked for a public reply here so the excerpt is snipped below. Our system for issuing licences has been automated for a while now, but one if its limitations is that the script does not automatically loop in sending a number of licenses greater than one automatically, this is a shortcoming. Finally, I've never been shy of admitting an occasional incompetence in customer support publically on this list; however this case is a bit unfair, but you may not have received the key I guess. Please follow up with either Chantal or myself in private mail if there is anything else we can do. Kind regards, jean michel/ctm qa Begin Forwarded Message Subject: Your personal PowerMail 6 registration info ! Date Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:49 PM From: CTM registration ctm-sa...@ctmdev.com To: b...@kidsource.com To the attention of Bob Parks , Thank you for choosing PowerMail 6, a sustainable alternative to Mac e- mail clients evolving since 1995. Please save this message as your proof-of-purchase, it may be required if you request technical support in the future. Kind regards, Chantal Favre CTM Development ctm-sa...@ctmdev.com - End Forwarded Message - -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2899 - 11/18/10 From: joe hallett joe...@mac.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:48:57 -0800 I agree. Joe Hallett On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:00 AM, PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com wrote: I for one may take Jean Michel up on this offer. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2901 - 11/20/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2901 - Saturday, November 20, 2010 Re: 2 GB limit by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: 2 GB limit by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: 2 GB limit by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: 2 GB limit by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com backup strategies by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Re(2): 2 GB limit by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Re: 2 GB limit by G-Spot Records mad...@gunnarspot.com Fwd: Your personal PowerMail 6 registration info ! by Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:03:58 +0100 Jeremy Hughes skrev 2010-11-15 13.52: MiB (14/11/10, 07:36) said: The monolithic database format is also an issue for backup programs that work at a file level (Retrospect, Time Machine etc.) Erroneous assumption. I think you missed my point, even though you quoted it. QRecall, by its own description, doesn't work at a file level. No, it works on a subfile level, ie parts of files. If it worked only on the file level, then we would have the problems you describe. The end all with Qrecall is that only The Changes made to a file will be backed up, instead of the whole file. So, if you back up every hour, only the changes made to the powermail DB during that hour will have to be backed up as the rest have already been backed up once. I'm sure other backup software does this as well. If not, they should. /MB -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:13:29 +0100 George Henne wrote 2010-11-11 18.14: I just checked - PowerMail is responsible for 90% of of the backup activity on my system. (I use TimeMachine). The problem is that if just one email comes in an hour (which always happens), the complete database gets backed up again. One database per folder would reduce the backup requirements dramatically. There would be less load on the system, and my Time Machine would be able backups for a much longer time period. Qrecall www.qrecall.com would reduce the amount of data backed up at every recurring backup. -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:25:33 +0100 Bill Schjelderup skrev 2010-11-11 23.50: Check out Crashplan.com The Pro version looks promising, though I'd prefer if they'd have any number of seats instead of fixed numbers. -- Subject: Re: 2 GB limit From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:29:15 +0100 Peter Lovell skrev 2010-11-12 00.31: the PM database is great for storage and access efficiency, but not so good for incremental backup. Only with suboptimal tools that is. The sparsebundle image idea is also quite useful for those that can't switch backup solution quickly. /MB -- Subject: backup strategies From: Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:41:11 -0700 Crashplan also only backs up file differences and even if you move files, they don't have to be backed up again. Crashplan has a free version that backs up daily, and a Plus version where you can set the frequency. You can use the same volume to backup as time machine, and put your powermail files into the don't backup preference for time machine. thus for no additional cost, you can get the benefits of time machine for most files, and use crashplan for Powermail. Crashplan also has options for off site backup. If you value your data, you should have more than one backup, and having it offsite is a excellent choice. Another free solution (if your files are under 2gb) is dropbox. Pay for up to 50gb of storage, and sync the data to other machines too. Dropbox isn't sold as a backup solution, but it does a good job of it. Dropbox also does data compression, and incremental backups. I'm not sure if it gives good results for open files...but if you close powermail, it will backup automatically. I do know some products support dropbox, I assume they insure compatibility when files are open, although I don't know for sure. I use Time Machine, Dropbox, Crashplan and Tri-Backup for backup on my personal machines. I use each product for the specific benefits they each provide. Time Machine is great, but it's very dumb about big files, moved files and securing your private data. I'd never let my backup technology dictate what other products I use. I am very serious about backup on my personal as well as company machines. At home, my children and wife have their machines automatically backed up to my main machine via the free version of
powermail-discuss Digest #2902 - 11/21/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2902 - Sunday, November 21, 2010 migrating to IMAP by H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Re: backup strategies by Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com sent messages with IMAP by H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Re: sent messages with IMAP by Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Re: migrating to IMAP by Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Re: sent messages with IMAP by H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu -- Subject: migrating to IMAP From: H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:56:23 -1000 Is there an easy way to migrate to IMAP? That is, to get all my messages from my desktop machine (that I've collected over the years using POP) onto the IMAP account (gmail), with all the many, many folders? Thanks. Ron -- Subject: Re: backup strategies From: Bob Parks b...@kidsource.com Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:53:56 -0800 Subject: backup strategies From: Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:41:11 -0700 lots of stuff snipped.. Although I'm a big fan of Crashplan, I recently migrated the business backups to CrashPlan Pro, and have been extremely happy with both the software and their support. Bob * * Bob Parks In theory, there is no difference * * b...@kidsource.com between theory and practice. * * pa...@alum.mit.edu * * http://www.kidsource.com/ In practice, this is rarely the case. * * -- Subject: sent messages with IMAP From: H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:19:43 -1000 I'm trying to figure out IMAP and it seems that the following is true. Let's say I sent a message from PM using the IMAP account. The message shows up in my Sent message folder on PM. It also shows up in my Sent message folder in the IMAP account (in this case, Gmail). But it doesn't look like the client sees that folder. So, e.g., if I go to another machine and use an email client, whether it be PM, or Outlook or Mail, I won't see that sent message. Is that correct? TIA. Ron -- Subject: Re: sent messages with IMAP From: Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:11:49 +0100 No, Sent messages should show up on every client. And really don't do Gmail with IMAP. Their IMAP implementation is weird. Besides with Gmail there isn't a big difference between IMAP and POP. On 21.11.2010, at 03:19, H.R. Riggs wrote: I'm trying to figure out IMAP and it seems that the following is true. Let's say I sent a message from PM using the IMAP account. The message shows up in my Sent message folder on PM. It also shows up in my Sent message folder in the IMAP account (in this case, Gmail). But it doesn't look like the client sees that folder. So, e.g., if I go to another machine and use an email client, whether it be PM, or Outlook or Mail, I won't see that sent message. Is that correct? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Trixi Willius http://www.mothsoftware.com Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email http://www.beatrixwillius.de Fractals, 3d landscapes etc. -- Subject: Re: migrating to IMAP From: Beatrix Willius bwill...@gmx.de Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:12:00 +0100 Hi H.R., haven't tried it for IMAP but in general the tool is good: http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/index.html The problem will be the odd 2 GB limit of PM. On 20.11.2010, at 19:56, H.R. Riggs wrote: Is there an easy way to migrate to IMAP? That is, to get all my messages from my desktop machine (that I've collected over the years using POP) onto the IMAP account (gmail), with all the many, many folders? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Trixi Willius http://www.mothsoftware.com Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email http://www.beatrixwillius.de Fractals, 3d landscapes etc. -- Subject: Re: sent messages with IMAP From: H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:36:43 -1000 Beatrix Willius wrote on 11/21/10 at 9:11 PM: No, Sent messages should show up on every client. And really don't do Gmail with IMAP. Their IMAP implementation is weird. Besides with Gmail there isn't a big difference between IMAP and POP. You are correct. I just figure out that in PM if you expland the [Gmail] folder, the Gmail Sent folder is there. I don't know anything about Gmail's IMAP implementation. But regarding Gmail, it's free and it gives
powermail-discuss Digest #2903 - 11/22/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2903 - Monday, November 22, 2010 Re: migrating to IMAP by H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Earthlink/Powermail issues by Evan Evanson eevan...@sprintmail.com Re: Earthlink/Powermail issues by Evan Evanson eevan...@sprintmail.com Re: migrating to IMAP by MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com Deleting Attachments by A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com Re: sent messages with IMAP by MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com Re: Deleting Attachments by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de -- Subject: Re: migrating to IMAP From: H.R. Riggs ri...@hawaii.edu Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:07:44 -1000 Beatrix Willius wrote on 11/21/10 at 9:12 PM: Hi H.R., haven't tried it for IMAP but in general the tool is good: http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/index.html This doesn't seem to work with Powermail. At least, PM is not an option. The problem will be the odd 2 GB limit of PM. On 20.11.2010, at 19:56, H.R. Riggs wrote: Is there an easy way to migrate to IMAP? That is, to get all my messages from my desktop machine (that I've collected over the years using POP) onto the IMAP account (gmail), with all the many, many folders? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Trixi Willius http://www.mothsoftware.com Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email http://www.beatrixwillius.de Fractals, 3d landscapes etc. -- Subject: Earthlink/Powermail issues From: Evan Evanson eevan...@sprintmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:18:39 -0600 I'm wondering if anyone can help me with this - I'm in the process of switching ISPs, from Earthlink to Charter, but was planning on keeping my Earthlink email address for a while to smooth the transition. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server when I'm a) using PowerMail, and b) using Charter as my ISP. I had noticed this before when travelling - I could receive email, but not send it. The workaround was to use Earthlink's web mail client to send emails, which was a pain, because I would forget the problem until I encountered an issue, then had to cut-and-paste from PowerMail to the browser. The weird wrinkle is that this seems to be a PowerMail issue. Witness this email, sent using Thunderbird, using Charter to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server. I've check, double-check, and triple-checked the SMTP settings in PowerMail, even cutting-and-pasting all settings from Thunderbird to PowerMail, but PowerMail simply won't connect to Earthlink's server. In fact, if I leave the password field blank in PowerMail, it never prompts me for the password, it simply times out attempting to send the message. I called Earthlink customer support, and true to form they simply told me that my only option when not using Earthlink as my ISP was to use the web mail client, as they are blocking all wireless servers. Which is patent nonsense in addition to being wrong, since as I stated before, this email is being sent through my home wireless network, using Charter as the ISP. Hoping somebody's already found the solution, Evan Evanson PowerMail user since 2002 -- Subject: Re: Earthlink/Powermail issues From: Evan Evanson eevan...@sprintmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:49:33 -0600 D'oh! Got it sorted out. Turns out there's a setting in Setup Mail Scheduling Locations that will over-ride your outgoing mail settings in every account, and that had erroneous authentication info. Thank you for allowing me to waste everyone's time. Evan Evanson On 11/21/10 15:18 , Evan Evanson wrote: I'm wondering if anyone can help me with this - I'm in the process of switching ISPs, from Earthlink to Charter, but was planning on keeping my Earthlink email address for a while to smooth the transition. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server when I'm a) using PowerMail, and b) using Charter as my ISP. I had noticed this before when travelling - I could receive email, but not send it. The workaround was to use Earthlink's web mail client to send emails, which was a pain, because I would forget the problem until I encountered an issue, then had to cut-and-paste from PowerMail to the browser. The weird wrinkle is that this seems to be a PowerMail issue. Witness this email, sent using Thunderbird, using Charter to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server. I've check, double-check, and triple-checked the SMTP settings in PowerMail, even cutting-and-pasting all settings from Thunderbird to PowerMail, but PowerMail simply won't connect to Earthlink's server. In fact, if I leave the password field blank in PowerMail, it never prompts me for the password, it simply times out attempting to send the message. I called Earthlink
powermail-discuss Digest #2904 - 11/23/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2904 - Tuesday, November 23, 2010 Re: Deleting Attachments by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Re(2): Deleting Attachments by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re(3): Deleting Attachments by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: Deleting Attachments by A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com Re(4): Deleting Attachments by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Re: Re(4): Deleting Attachments by Mirko Kranenburg mirko.li...@gmail.com Re(6): Deleting Attachments by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Re(7): Deleting Attachments by George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Re(8): Deleting Attachments by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: Deleting Attachments by C. A. Niemiec polarb...@friarwire.net Re: Deleting Attachments by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re(2): sent messages with IMAP by Evan Evanson eevan...@sprintmail.com Re(3): sent messages with IMAP by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: Deleting Attachments by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Re: Re(3): sent messages with IMAP by John Snippe j...@snippe.ca Database problems by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Re: Database problems by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Re: Deleting Attachments by C. A. Niemiec polarb...@friarwire.net -- Subject: Re: Deleting Attachments From: Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:04:48 -0500 On 11/22/10, A Sanna wrote: Is there a way to delete a message's attachments when deleting the message itself? My Downloads folder seems to get clogged with junk GIF's. If I understand correctly, PowerMail is supposed to delete attachments when the message is deleted. What I think happens in practice, is that the attachment is deleted when PowerMail's Mail Trash is emptied. So, look in the Attachments folder, delete all Spam messages, empty PowerMail's Mail Trash, and for good measure quit PowerMail, then check the Attachments folder again. - Don -- Subject: Re(2): Deleting Attachments From: George Henne g...@nsbasic.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:17:57 -0500 On 11/22/10, A Sanna wrote: Is there a way to delete a message's attachments when deleting the message itself? My Downloads folder seems to get clogged with junk GIF's. I have 13,795 items in my Attachments folders, going back to 2003. I'm convinced that many of them are orphans. I wish there was a way to clean them out. -- Subject: Re(3): Deleting Attachments From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:31:49 -0500 On Mon, Nov 22, 2010, George Henne g...@nsbasic.com wrote: I have 13,795 items in my Attachments folders, going back to 2003. I'm convinced that many of them are orphans. I wish there was a way to clean them out. I wonder if there's a way to identify orphans? Anyone know of one? Perhaps CTM has a suggestion? Cheers.Peter -- Subject: Re: Deleting Attachments From: A Sanna asa...@sacofoods.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:59:03 -0600 If I understand correctly, PowerMail is supposed to delete attachments when the message is deleted. Not always true. I have certain groups of files that come attached to messages that are never deleted, although the message is never opened or read. Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 asa...@sacofoods.com -- Subject: Re(4): Deleting Attachments From: CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:24:55 +0100 Peter, On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:31:49 -0500, Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com wrote: I wonder if there's a way to identify orphans? Anyone know of one? Perhaps CTM has a suggestion? The behavior is that message moved to PowerMail's mail trash should see their attachments moved to the Finder trash upon emptying PowerMail's trash. This was done so that there would be two layers of protection against inadvertant destruction of attachments. And no, there is no way to identify orphans since, precisely, they are orphaned. What I do use to keep the Mail Attachments folder under control is the Find duplicates feature of FileBuddy, which will compare the dataforks of attachments by content and let you select for instance only the newest ones, then delete them in one go. This will at least get rid of duplicates, with however the risk that one of the duplicate files may be the file referenced by a message as its attachment. Regards, jean michel -- Subject: Re: Re(4): Deleting Attachments From: Mirko Kranenburg
powermail-discuss Digest #2905 - 11/24/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2905 - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 Re: Database problems by Raphaël PAREJO raphael.par...@gmail.com Re: Deleting Attachments by Frank Mitchell fmitc...@amug.org Re: Database problems by T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com -- Subject: Re: Database problems From: Raphaël PAREJO raphael.par...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:59:01 +0100 Hello alls, I've the same problema: when I try rebuild low level, I got the fatal message: Class-DB what=100 err=130 I've the same felling as Bill: Powermail seems to be on maintenance development from CTM. It seems also to be a PERMANENT maintenance development... Sigh! Best regards. -- Raphaël Parejo Le/el/ Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:43:19 -0500 Don Zahniser (dzahni...@rochester.rr.com) m'a écrit / me escribió : After my spinning beachball adventures trying to export my PowerMail database to PowerMail exchange format, I thought I would try to do some maintenance on the database. I restarted PowerMail and checked all of the items in the first category. Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Translation, please? Could this be related to my seeming inability to export to PowerMail Exchange format? Any further assistance would be welcome! - Don -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11; PowerMail 6.0.5 -- Subject: Re: Deleting Attachments From: Frank Mitchell fmitc...@amug.org Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:23:56 -0700 Michael said--- Is there a way to delete a message's attachments when deleting the message itself? My Downloads folder seems to get clogged with junk GIF's. Attachments are deleted automatically when you delete the message. At least that is my experience. That's generally true for me too. Except for emails from people who feel the need to decorate their messages with those stupid .gif images. Every so often I have to go to my attachments folder and clear them all out manually. -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona -- Subject: Re: Database problems From: T.L. Miller tlmil...@mac.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:09:35 -0500 On 11/23/10, at 10:03 AM, Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com said: It seems to be that Powermail is on maintenance development from CTM, I keep looking at alternatives...but none do it for me. I expect with all the competition for email clients and Powermail not supporting HTML email very well it's market is limited to the group of us that need the unique features of the program. I can only hope it's economically rational for CTM to continue to invest resources into the product into the future. PM is my primary e-mail client because of its speed, search capabilities, etc., but when I need better HTML implementation, I crank up Mail. I assume you're right about PM just being in maintenance mode, but I hope for a bit more from the them. My guess is them is only Jean Michel, Jérôme Seydoux and Chantal. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2906 - 11/25/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2906 - Thursday, November 25, 2010 Re: Database problems by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re(2): Database problems by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com -- Subject: Re: Database problems From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:42:05 +0100 Don Zahniser wrote: Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Low-level rebuild is currently broken. However, its only purpose it to fix some cases where compact database could fail. If you can successfully compact, verify the consistency, rebuild sort and search indices, then your database is safe. If you have troubles exporting the entire mail database in PowerMail Exchange format, you can try exporting one or a few folders at a time using the selected mail folders option. You can also search for messages in a given date range, mail account etc, then select them in the search result window, and export the selected messages. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot Professional Search is a fantastic application. I simply couldn't live without it. FoxTrot Professional Search user comment Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re(2): Database problems From: Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:12:19 -0700 Thanks Jérôme for telling us it's broken. It makes me feel better to know that it's NOT my data even though I suspected it was a Powermail problem. I suspect a large number of your users are power users where email is a very important part of their operation. Knowing that our very valuable email file is NOT corrupted is critical, and with all data in one file, even more important than with other systems. It's not that I suspect Powermail itself of corrupting data, but that I've been around computer systems for over 40 years and I know that bad stuff happens to data files even when everything appears to be OK. We tell our customers to backup frequently, and to verify database integrity on a regular basis. Customers that lose data are not happy customers. Now I think it's time for me to do a compact database... +---+ Bill Schjelderup, President b...@companioncorp.com COMPanion Corporation801-365-0555 voice 1831 Fort Union Blvd. 801-943-7752 fax Salt Lake City, Utah 84121-3041 www.companioncorp.com +---+ Nusquam est qui ubique est. - He who is everywhere is nowhere. This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are NOT the intended recipient, I'm sorry to bother you and will attempt to address my messages more carefully in the future. Don Zahniser wrote: Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Low-level rebuild is currently broken. However, its only purpose it to fix some cases where compact database could fail. If you can successfully compact, verify the consistency, rebuild sort and search indices, then your database is safe. If you have troubles exporting the entire mail database in PowerMail Exchange format, you can try exporting one or a few folders at a time using the selected mail folders option. You can also search for messages in a given date range, mail account etc, then select them in the search result window, and export the selected messages. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot Professional Search is a fantastic application. I simply couldn't live without it. FoxTrot Professional Search user comment Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2907 - 12/03/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2907 - Friday, December 3, 2010
Script solution for Deleting Orphaned Attachments (was Deleteing Attachme
by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com
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Subject: Script solution for Deleting Orphaned Attachments (was Deleteing
Attachments)
From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:28:48 +0100
This old thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com/msg15747.html
from 2007 discusses a script authored by Justin Beek. Read the caveats
from Ben Kennedy. It was posted something like below. It doesn't compile
in this form, but with some work it could be a starting point for a
script solution if someone wants to fix it.
**Code for Delete Orphaned attachments (Doesn't compile)***
global theFolder
tell application PowerMail
set attachFolder to attachment folder
set theMessages to current messages
repeat with msg in theMessages
set msgStatus to status of msg
set attachList to attachments of msg
if (count items of attachList) 0 then
set theID to the ID of msg
set msgAttachFolder to
set msgAttachFolder to theID
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder
tell application Finder
if not (exists folder (attachFolder msgAttachFolder as string)) then
set theFolder to (make new folder at attachFolder with properties
{name:(msgAttachFolder as string)})
else
set theFolder to folder (attachFolder msgAttachFolder as string)
end if
end tell
repeat with attachIdx from (count items of attachList) to 1 by -1
set attachFile to file of (item attachIdx of attachList)
tell application Finder
set newAttachFile to (move attachFile to theFolder without
replacing) as
alias
end tell
delete attachment attachIdx of msg
make new attachment at msg with properties {file:(newAttachFile as alias)}
end repeat
end if
end repeat
end tell
--
End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2908 - 12/04/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2908 - Saturday, December 4, 2010 Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2907 - 12/03/10 by JD Mankovsky j...@apple.com Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2907 - 12/03/10 by Kjell Olausson kj...@kio.nu -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2907 - 12/03/10 From: JD Mankovsky j...@apple.com Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 14:18:44 -0500 remove -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2907 - 12/03/10 From: Kjell Olausson kj...@kio.nu Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 00:51:45 +0100 add -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2909 - 12/07/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2909 - Tuesday, December 7, 2010 [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing by CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? by Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com -- Subject: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing From: CTM info ctm-li...@ctmdev.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:59:08 +0100 attention: PowerMail-discuss listmembers Greetings. We are pleased to announce the release of PowerMail 6.0.6b1, available from: http://powermail.simplenet.com/pm6.0.6b1.dmg This version: - fixes the systematic bug when attempting a low-level rebuild in 6.0.5 - includes the latest SpamSieve on the disk images If you've experienced an issue with low-level rebuilding recently, please report back your findings to the list or in direct e-mail (under the Help menu). Regards, jean michel/ctm qa -- Subject: Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? From: Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 01:53:41 -0500 I am a longtime user of PowerMail. So far I have let the upgrade promotions for owners of a previous version to PM 6 pass me by. Is there a current upgrade price for PM 5 users? Thanks. - Winston -- Subject: Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing From: Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 09:56:44 -0500 I did a low-level rebuild after installing the update. No apparent problem. - Don On 12/6/10, CTM info wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of PowerMail 6.0.6b1, available from: http://powermail.simplenet.com/pm6.0.6b1.dmg This version: - fixes the systematic bug when attempting a low-level rebuild in 6.0.5 - includes the latest SpamSieve on the disk images If you've experienced an issue with low-level rebuilding recently, please report back your findings to the list or in direct e-mail (under the Help menu). -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11 -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2910 - 12/12/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2910 - Sunday, December 12, 2010 Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: Database problems by John Keegan j...@rackshare.com searching behaviour 6.06b1/6.05 and previous by m. osti t...@mclink.it [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b2 for testing by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b2 for testing by Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com -- Subject: Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 21:37:21 -0800 CTM info wrote at 11:59 PM (+0100) on 12/6/10: This version: - fixes the systematic bug when attempting a low-level rebuild in 6.0.5 - includes the latest SpamSieve on the disk images Apparently it also includes Sparkle support (that didn't used to exist previously, did it?) Anyway, something appears to have gotten a bit wonky with the Edit menu: if I do a Paste of some text into a message, then do a Select All, the Cut and Copy commands are subsequently unavailable until I take some other action on the text (e.g. select a subset of it with the mouse). This used to work properly in the previous build. b -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing From: Don Zahniser dzahni...@rochester.rr.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:54:39 -0500 I think I am seeing a new issue since starting to run this build: When viewing a message in its own window (the clone of the Claris Emailer message window), if I choose a folder from the pick list to file the message, the immediate rectangle around the selected folder in the pick list remains visible superimposed on the message window after the folder is chosen and the pick list otherwise disappears. This appears to be a visual/drawing artifact, as the message is properly filed in the selected folder. It may have been present in previous versions, but I just noticed it with this one. Question: Is there any concern about running PowerMail 6.0.5 after running PM 6.0.6b1? Also: I was going through my messages, deleting some old ones (mostly to get rid of attachments). I used the 'View only' control to see messages relating to a single subject, which produced a list of three messages. When I tried to select the three messages (click first, shift-click the last), I got a database error, followed by 100% CPU usage and PowerMail became completely unresponsive. I force-quit PM, then tried to duplicate the error, but was able to complete the action of selecting then deleting the messages with no problems. Sorry I didn't capture the specific message that accompanied the database error... - Don -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11 -- Subject: Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 11:37:44 +0100 Ben Kennedy wrote: Apparently it also includes Sparkle support (that didn't used to exist previously, did it?) PowerMail was previously using an older version of Sparkle; the newer version can optionally send us anonymous system information statistics, and can install updates automatically. if I do a Paste of some text into a message, then do a Select All, the Cut and Copy commands are subsequently unavailable This will be fixed. Thanks for the report Jérôme - CTM Engineering - I would like to comment that FoxTrot is so far superior to Spotlight in every way that without it, I would probably have to go back to Windows (shudder) since the ability to search my own files is mission critical. Steven Merley, FoxTrot Personal Search user Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b1 for testing From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 14:08:48 +0100 Don Zahniser wrote: When viewing a message in its own window (the clone of the Claris Emailer message window), if I choose a folder from the pick list to file the message, the immediate rectangle around the selected folder in the pick list remains visible superimposed on the message window after the folder is chosen and the pick list otherwise
powermail-discuss Digest #2911 - 12/17/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2911 - Friday, December 17, 2010 searching behaviour 6.06b1/6.05 and previous by m. osti t...@mclink.it Re: Database problems by Gerald F. Carroll gfci...@shaw.ca Re: Database problems by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Re: Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? by Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b2 for testing by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com -- Subject: searching behaviour 6.06b1/6.05 and previous From: m. osti t...@mclink.it Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:14:50 +0100 problems on the listserver? i sent this message last friday but never received it. === in order to get a result from a search I have to restart pm otherwise i got only a _no item found_. i m on a macbook so i have pm and others apps running all the time, maybe this hint can help. it has been happening to me for a long time http://www.mail-archive.com/ powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com/msg16618.html -- -m -- Subject: Re: Database problems From: Gerald F. Carroll gfci...@shaw.ca Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 03:37:41 -0600 I was getting the same problem with mine. I have a G4 Power PC that has an upgraded processor. I did this so i could run Leopard. When i got 6.0.6b1 in the mail i made a copy of the program i was getting the errors with and saved a copy of the data base. I then loaded the 6.0.6b1 and tried it on the original daa base and i did not get the errors again. seems what inspired me was that this upgrade was supposed to help with problems like this. just a thought Gerry I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 I have a similar issue as Don had, but worse. I woke up to find Powermail locked up. It would not quit and I needed to do a force quit. Upon trying to re-open, Powermail wants to rebuild sort indices and then when it is done it exits with the same error as above. None of the options in PowerMail First Aid help, including low level rebuild with the latest beta. I now have a corrupt message database that Powermail can not open. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have tried all the usual suspects, verified/repaired the disk itself, PowerMail First Aid by holding down command option on startup, etc, to no avail. I have a 4 day old backup, but would like to recover that mail... I have a copy of Powermail Salvage from a similar situation a couple years ago, but when I launch Powermail Salvage on my Intel Macbook or Mac Mini it just does the spinning beach ball... Does Powermail Salvage even work on Intel Macs? On Powermail 6 message databases? Any options for me to get my mail back? Thanks in advance for any help. -- The faster the computer The more impatient the user -- Subject: Re: Database problems From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:51:19 +0100 John Keegan wrote: Does Powermail Salvage even work on Intel Macs? On Powermail 6 message databases? No, unfortunately, PowerMail Salvage does not work for PowerMail 6 databases. You can try to create a new PowerMail User Environment (from the file / database menu), quit PowerMail, then copy your old Message Database file to this new folder, in the hope that the corrupted file was one of the other ones (address database etc). If that does not work, I don't see anything else you can try. Note that if your POP settings are to leave messages on the server for at least a few days or weeks, you should be able to re-download messages received after your last backup. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - FoxTrot is a must have for me. It is simply awesome! Type a few words and it finds and shows you the location in the files. Wow! Got love it. Thank you thank you thank you! FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? From: Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:45:52 -0500 So I guess the answer is no. Well, I am pretty used to the quirks and limits of PM 5 by now. Also, I would be interested in a PM/FoxTrot offer as discussed recently as a work-around for the 2 GB database limit. - Winston Winston Weinmann wrote: I am a longtime user of PowerMail. So far I have let the upgrade promotions for owners of a previous version to PM 6 pass me by. Is there a current upgrade price for PM 5 users? Thanks. - Winston
powermail-discuss Digest #2912 - 12/20/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2912 - Monday, December 20, 2010 Re(2): Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com -- Subject: Re(2): Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:15:18 -0500 Hi Winston, there is a 30% discount for upgrades, as mentioned here http://www.ctmdev.com/buy/powermail_upgrades.html You may need to use this http://www.ctmdev.com/support/customer_service.html to request a coupon code if you didn't receive one. Cheers.Peter On Thu, Dec 16, 2010, Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com wrote: So I guess the answer is no. Well, I am pretty used to the quirks and limits of PM 5 by now. Also, I would be interested in a PM/FoxTrot offer as discussed recently as a work-around for the 2 GB database limit. - Winston Winston Weinmann wrote: I am a longtime user of PowerMail. So far I have let the upgrade promotions for owners of a previous version to PM 6 pass me by. Is there a current upgrade price for PM 5 users? Thanks. - Winston -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2913 - 12/21/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2913 - Tuesday, December 21, 2010 Re(3): Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? by Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com Re(4): Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com -- Subject: Re(3): Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? From: Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:02:18 -0500 Peter - Thanks for sending the links. I have sent a request for a new discount code. The code I had did not work (presumably expired). Now we'll see if CTM responds. They never have when I've emailed them in the past. - Winston Peter Lovell wrote: Hi Winston, there is a 30% discount for upgrades, as mentioned here http://www.ctmdev.com/buy/powermail_upgrades.html You may need to use this http://www.ctmdev.com/support/customer_service.html to request a coupon code if you didn't receive one. Cheers.Peter On Thu, Dec 16, 2010, Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com wrote: So I guess the answer is no. Well, I am pretty used to the quirks and limits of PM 5 by now. Also, I would be interested in a PM/FoxTrot offer as discussed recently as a work-around for the 2 GB database limit. - Winston Winston Weinmann wrote: I am a longtime user of PowerMail. So far I have let the upgrade promotions for owners of a previous version to PM 6 pass me by. Is there a current upgrade price for PM 5 users? Thanks. - Winston -- Subject: Re(4): Is there a (current) upgrade price from PM 5 to 6? From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:43:55 -0500 Hi Winston, I've usually had good response to customer service queries such as this. Regards.Peter On Mon, Dec 20, 2010, Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com wrote: Peter - Thanks for sending the links. I have sent a request for a new discount code. The code I had did not work (presumably expired). Now we'll see if CTM responds. They never have when I've emailed them in the past. - Winston Peter Lovell wrote: Hi Winston, there is a 30% discount for upgrades, as mentioned here http://www.ctmdev.com/buy/powermail_upgrades.html You may need to use this http://www.ctmdev.com/support/customer_service.html to request a coupon code if you didn't receive one. Cheers.Peter On Thu, Dec 16, 2010, Winston Weinmann weinm...@mindspring.com wrote: So I guess the answer is no. Well, I am pretty used to the quirks and limits of PM 5 by now. Also, I would be interested in a PM/FoxTrot offer as discussed recently as a work-around for the 2 GB database limit. - Winston Winston Weinmann wrote: I am a longtime user of PowerMail. So far I have let the upgrade promotions for owners of a previous version to PM 6 pass me by. Is there a current upgrade price for PM 5 users? Thanks. - Winston -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2915 - 12/24/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2915 - Friday, December 24, 2010 Feature Request: TNEF support by Marco Piovanelli marco.piovane...@pobox.com Re: Feature Request: TNEF support by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Re: Feature Request: TNEF support by Gruetzner Urs u...@mac.com Happy Holidays! by A-NO-NE Music anonemu...@mac.com -- Subject: Feature Request: TNEF support From: Marco Piovanelli marco.piovane...@pobox.com Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:50:53 +0100 Hello, Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files. These are files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched, very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically. So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail. -- marco -- It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation. They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down. -- Subject: Re: Feature Request: TNEF support From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:04:21 -0500 I'm afraid it has very little to do with PowerMail or indeed any other email client *other than* Outlook. The problem arises when an Outlook user sends an attachment with an email that has been sent in RTF format. Only users of Outlook will be able to read that email. The TNEF format used by Outlook is not quite the standard that it should be and as a result we get the mess you are experiencing presently. The solution is to get them to resend that message in either Plain Text (preferred) or HTML format. In order to avoid the problem re-occurring, they should change their permanent settings to either Plain Text or HTML. I have had to reset many of my clients' Outlook settings to deal with this issue and no doubt will have to do so in the future. -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca On 2010-12-24, at 5:50 AM, Marco Piovanelli wrote: Hello, Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files. These are files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched, very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulation_Format As much as I personally despise TNEF, I'm getting tired of having to use third-party tools to manually decode winmail.dat files, and I'd rather my favorite mail client handled such decoding automatically. So I'd like to respectfully ask CTM Dev to consider adding support for automatic TNEF decoding to a future version of PowerMail. -- marco -- It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation. They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down. -- Subject: Re: Feature Request: TNEF support From: Gruetzner Urs u...@mac.com Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:05:40 +0100 TNEF is indeed a nightmare. Consider also if your EMail Provider can decode already the TNEF. We have our own MailServer with Communigate Pro Server and a TNEF decoder from Niversoft. Works like a charm. Urs Am 24.12.2010 um 11:50 schrieb Marco Piovanelli: Hello, Over the last few years, I've been getting more and more mail with attachments wrapped in winmail.dat files. These are files in a horribly proprietary format misnomered Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format, or TNEF for short, created by Microsoft (who else?) in total disregard for the well-entrenched, very well-documented MIME Internet standard that has been used by the rest of the computing universe since the early '90s.
powermail-discuss Digest #2916 - 12/25/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2916 - Saturday, December 25, 2010 Re: Happy Holidays! by Barbara Needham barbara...@newsguy.com -- Subject: Re: Happy Holidays! From: Barbara Needham barbara...@newsguy.com Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 15:08:14 -0800 On 12/24/2010 9:19 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Happy Holidays! A few selections from this year's holiday shows: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AAC08C3FACC6D0E2 Hope you enjoy :-) Thank you.. once again! -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2917 - 12/26/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2917 - Sunday, December 26, 2010 Re: Happy Holidays! by Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca -- Subject: Re: Happy Holidays! From: Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 22:14:08 -0500 Enjoying them as I write this. Beautiful. Thank you and all the best for the holidays AND for 2011! Regards, Tim -- Tim Lapin t...@sympatico.ca On 2010-12-24, at 12:19 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Happy Holidays! A few selections from this year's holiday shows: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AAC08C3FACC6D0E2 Hope you enjoy :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2918 - 02/13/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2918 - Sunday, February 13, 2011 Retrieved mail on MobileMe by Mirko Kranenburg mirko.li...@gmail.com -- Subject: Retrieved mail on MobileMe From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko.li...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:37:31 +0100 Hi all, Out of curiousity: When I use PowerMail on the account from my provider in The Netherlands, XS4ALL, e-mail retrieved by PM is set as Read in IMAP, when accessing the account over webmail or otherwise. MobileMe is not as smart, unfortunately, the status there is Unread, until I manually change things. What I was wondering: is it possible in some way to let MobileMe behave like XS4all? Makes accessing the same account with my iPhone a lot less elaborate. Thanks for any insights! Mirko -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2919 - 02/26/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2919 - Saturday, February 26, 2011 Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Charles Watts-Jones charle...@pobox.com Re(2): Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com -- Subject: Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:03:22 -0800 Hey all, I'm loath to revive an old and (I thought settled) discussion, but I did a search of my saved email and can't seem to find the particulars. What was the final word on the state of PowerMail's handling of text- wrapping in outbound messages? I routinely get hell from my colleagues using Mail.app when I try to send them URLs that get broken across line breaks. Mail.app does not respect the angle-bracket convention, so it only sees the first part of the URL. It appears that PM sends outbound messages with a Content-Transfer- Encoding: quoted-printable, which should facilitate soft wrapping by encoding soft EOLs with =. However, PM omits the = in favour of a plain CR/LF, which is interpreted as a hard line break. Why is this? Is there some rationale in its favour? It is not obvious to me how this is at all desirable. cheers, -ben -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:35:12 -0500 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011, Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca wrote: Hey all, I'm loath to revive an old and (I thought settled) discussion, but I did a search of my saved email and can't seem to find the particulars. What was the final word on the state of PowerMail's handling of text- wrapping in outbound messages? I routinely get hell from my colleagues using Mail.app when I try to send them URLs that get broken across line breaks. Mail.app does not respect the angle-bracket convention, so it only sees the first part of the URL. It appears that PM sends outbound messages with a Content-Transfer- Encoding: quoted-printable, which should facilitate soft wrapping by encoding soft EOLs with =. However, PM omits the = in favour of a plain CR/LF, which is interpreted as a hard line break. Why is this? Is there some rationale in its favour? It is not obvious to me how this is at all desirable. cheers, -ben Hi Ben, I have noticed similar issues and filed a bug report back in November about the issue. I hadn't recognized it as an encoding issue - so I just complained that PM was hard-folding lines when sending, unlike Mail.app. So far I've not received any response but maybe it's time to push the issue again as it is quite problematic. I'm also having a *lot* of problem with PM not dealing with multi-part MIME content boundaries, such as Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary*0=; boundary*1=000 I get many messages formatted this way and PM is useless - it shows zero content!. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. This is a real pain. Regards.Peter -- Subject: Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Charles Watts-Jones charle...@pobox.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:46:30 +0100 On 25 February Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com wrote: I'm also having a *lot* of problem with PM not dealing with multi-part MIME content boundaries, such as Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary*0=; boundary*1=000 I get many messages formatted this way and PM is useless - it shows zero content!. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. This is a real pain. Checking my files, I see that this issue was raised last September by the 'usual suspects'. I find it seriously annoying with my only solution being to read the affected mail on-line. Far from ideal, especially when I want to keep the message. Now that CTM is up-to-date with PM and FoxTrot, perhaps we'll see some action. -- Charles -- Subject: Re(2): Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:42:04 -0700 We can all hope so! This is an irritating issues for many. The web links issue is a real pain too. I sure hope CTM is working on new releases. As all of us purchased PM when a free mail client was available there may still be a sufficient number of customers who would pay again for a major upgrade. Time will tell, so I keep an eye out for alternatives just in case...but none look like they are worth the switching effort - as email is
powermail-discuss Digest #2920 - 03/10/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2920 - Thursday, March 10, 2011 Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Sean McBride cwat...@cam.org Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net -- Subject: Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Sean McBride cwat...@cam.org Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:12:43 -0500 On Feb 25, 2011, at 15:03, Ben Kennedy wrote: Hey all, I'm loath to revive an old and (I thought settled) discussion, but I did a search of my saved email and can't seem to find the particulars. What was the final word on the state of PowerMail's handling of text- wrapping in outbound messages? This bug annoys me as well. No doubt it will never be fixed. :( I routinely get hell from my colleagues using Mail.app when I try to send them URLs that get broken across line breaks. Mail.app does not respect the angle-bracket convention, so it only sees the first part of the URL. More chance of Apple fixing this. Is it just a convention or it is actually in an RFC or something? Sean -- Subject: Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Tobias Jung new...@tobiasjung.net Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:07:47 +0100 Sean McBride wrote (Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:12:43 -0500): I routinely get hell from my colleagues using Mail.app when I try to send them URLs that get broken across line breaks. Mail.app does not respect the angle-bracket convention, so it only sees the first part of the URL. More chance of Apple fixing this. Is it just a convention or it is actually in an RFC or something? RFC 3986 says: Using angle brackets around each URI is especially recommended as a delimiting style for a reference that contains embedded whitespace. ... and of course, the line break IS a whitespace. Moreover, it recommends to recognize and strip both delimiters and embedded whitespace. http://labs.apache.org/webarch/uri/rfc/rfc3986.html#delimiting So it's just a recommendation but it has been around long enough so Apple Mail (and every other email client) should know and respect this... But of course we know that this is not the case so I still use http:// tinyurl.com/ (or rather, the iTiny URL Dashboard Widget) whenever I have to send long URLs. Hate to do this, but it seems to be the only reasonable way... Kind regards, Tobias Jung -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2921 - 03/24/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2921 - Thursday, March 24, 2011 Transfer to new Mac by Judith Beiss jbe...@ix.netcom.com Re: Transfer to new Mac by Mirko Kranenburg mirko.li...@gmail.com -- Subject: Transfer to new Mac From: Judith Beiss jbe...@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:46:04 -0400 Hello All Altho I've used PM for many, many years, I have only changed Macs a few times and I cannot remember the procedure. When I move on to that new Mac, how do I reinstall PM? I have my customer ID for my upgrade to 6.05. Will I still require a PM key? I assume I have it somewhere I'd love some help. Thanks -Judy Beiss- -- Subject: Re: Transfer to new Mac From: Mirko Kranenburg mirko.li...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:45:59 +0100 Hi, The PM Key is in the Preferences in the Library in your home directory. Installing of PM is as simple as drag and drop. You could also consider using the migration assistant to get all your files and applications set up on your new Mac. Works surprisingly well! Mirko -- Mirko Kranenburg e-mail mirko.li...@gmail.com On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:46:04 -0400, Judith Beiss wrote: Hello All Altho I've used PM for many, many years, I have only changed Macs a few times and I cannot remember the procedure. When I move on to that new Mac, how do I reinstall PM? I have my customer ID for my upgrade to 6.05. Will I still require a PM key? I assume I have it somewhere I'd love some help. Thanks -Judy Beiss- -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2922 - 05/19/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2922 - Thursday, May 19, 2011 Change Body Text? by Tom Dillon dil...@datacraft-inc.com Re: Change Body Text? by Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de -- Subject: Change Body Text? From: Tom Dillon dil...@datacraft-inc.com Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:50:09 -0600 I get a fair number of emails from clients which could use a tad bit of reformatting. (The emails more than the clients, generally.) I assumed that since a script can alter the subject of a received message, then a script should be able to change the body of one too. So, I tried the following, but got the alert saying I couldn't alter a received message. TL;DR How can I change the body of a received message? I tried: tell application PowerMail set msgList to the current messages repeat with msg in msgList set body of msg to pasteboard end repeat end tell Any ideas? Please feel free to laugh at my attempts to write AppleScript. :-7 -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Madness is its own reward. --- Sunastar -- -- Subject: Re: Change Body Text? From: Michael J. Hußmann mich...@michael-hussmann.de Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:01:33 +0200 Tom Dillon (dil...@datacraft-inc.com) wrote: TL;DR How can I change the body of a received message? While I haven't tried it, I think the same restrictions apply as they would when you were editing the message manually. You cannot change the body text (or anything else for that matter) of a received or sent message; you have to copy it before you can make changes (to the copy). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2923 - 05/21/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2923 - Saturday, May 21, 2011 Re: Change Body Text? by PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com -- Subject: Re: Change Body Text? From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:52:04 +0200 Tom Dillon wrote: How can I change the body of a received message? set content of msg to pasteboard Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot Professional Search has rapidly become an almost indispensable tool in day to day work... FoxTrot Professional Search user comment Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2924 - 05/24/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2924 - Tuesday, May 24, 2011 Re: Change Body Text? by Tom Dillon dil...@datacraft-inc.com -- Subject: Re: Change Body Text? From: Tom Dillon dil...@datacraft-inc.com Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:22:24 -0600 PowerMail Engineering wrote: How can I change the body of a received message? set content of msg to pasteboard Thanks. Set content was the part I was missing. It turns out that pasteboard should be the clipboard, so the final script is: tell application PowerMail set msgList to the current messages repeat with msg in msgList set content of msg to the clipboard end repeat end tell Thanks -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Arguing with an insane sailor puts you in his boat. Both of you will sink, but he won't care. --- Sunastar -- -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2925 - 05/27/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2925 - Friday, May 27, 2011 Script to clean the Subject? by Hans hans.glo...@mac.com Re: Script to clean the Subject? by Tom Dillon dil...@datacraft-inc.com Re: Script to clean the Subject? by Hans-Edmund Glomme hans.glo...@mac.com -- Subject: Script to clean the Subject? From: Hans hans.glo...@mac.com Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:58:03 +0200 Hello, when I write with people who are using outlook or yahoo mail, after a short time the subject looks like that: Re: AW: Re: AW: .. Is it possible to clean the subject when I answer on a message so that only one Re will exist into the subject line? Thnx for answer me. Greetings Hans -- Subject: Re: Script to clean the Subject? From: Tom Dillon dil...@datacraft-inc.com Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 21:43:02 -0600 Hans wrote: Hello, when I write with people who are using outlook or yahoo mail, after a short time the subject looks like that: Re: AW: Re: AW: .. Is it possible to clean the subject when I answer on a message so that only one Re will exist into the subject line? Thnx for answer me. Hi Hans, Once you hit Reply, you should be able to delete all the leading Re: Aw: etc. Or if you want to edit a received message you can use the AppleScript under the script menu titled Change Subject. If you want it to automatically reduce the reply tags (Re: or Aw:) to a single one, you'll have to write an AppleScript. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Arguing with an insane sailor puts you in his boat. Both of you will sink, but he won't care. --- Sunastar -- -- Subject: Re: Script to clean the Subject? From: Hans-Edmund Glomme hans.glo...@mac.com Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:33:59 +0200 Am 27.05.2011 um 05:43 schrieb Tom Dillon: If you want it to automatically reduce the reply tags (Re: or Aw:) to a single one, you'll have to write an AppleScript. Hello Tom, thank you for your answer, yes of course I want do it automatic and because I'm not a coder I also asked if there will be a script what can do exactly that for me, because maybe other people also had the same Problem and wrote such a apple script. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2926 - 06/10/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2926 - Friday, June 10, 2011 Re: Script to clean the Subject? by MB digital.disc...@gmail.com -- Subject: Re: Script to clean the Subject? From: MB digital.disc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:04:32 +0200 Hans-Edmund Glomme skrev 2011-05-27 08.33: Am 27.05.2011 um 05:43 schrieb Tom Dillon: If you want it to automatically reduce the reply tags (Re: or Aw:) to a single one, you'll have to write an AppleScript. Hello Tom, thank you for your answer, yes of course I want do it automatic and because I'm not a coder I also asked if there will be a script what can do exactly that for me, because maybe other people also had the same Problem and wrote such a apple script. Hans-Edmund, you probably need the Clean eList Messages script so I sent that separately to you with the burst support files. I'm not sure if this is still available elsewhere, so I suggest you redistribute it, if you like it. This fiddling with scripts is why I gave up PowerMail. I want to code Java, not Applescript. I have no time for this. I though I had unsubscribed from this list, but appearantly not. Fixing that now. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2927 - 06/14/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2927 - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Derry Thompson de...@gloderworks.com -- Subject: Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Derry Thompson de...@gloderworks.com Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:57:42 +0100 Ben Kennedy at b...@zygoat.ca said on Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:03:22 -0800 What was the final word on the state of PowerMail's handling of text- wrapping in outbound messages? I routinely get hell from my colleagues using Mail.app when I try to send them URLs that get broken across line breaks. Mail.app does not respect the angle-bracket convention, so it only sees the first part of the URL. New release (6.1b3) has fixed this it seems! Cheers -- Derry -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2928 - 06/15/11
powermail-discuss Digest #2928 - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable by Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable From: Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:45:08 -0700 Derry Thompson wrote at 4:57 PM (+0100) on 6/14/11: New release (6.1b3) has fixed this it seems! Indeed it is -- woohoo. Thanks, Jérôme! cheers, -ben -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
