Re: Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop
Hello Scott, Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:57:15 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade my key to V4.2 pro. What would be the best path to do this? If I had to this I would make sure of a few things. Make and test out the backup so that you know before all your data is moved that the bat works... no idea how much data is involved but I know from personal experience that if you have to download as in my case again from google it takes a long time... Also I still have 50% still missing which was in voyager backup. Keep also in mind that if you go for latest OS the Voyager may need an update as well to make sure it can handle the latest files... Reminds me, google and the bat donot do a proper job on downloading again as dates on what comes in is totally adjusted to current time/date... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Greg, sounds like you could have found the culprit as anti virus , antispam and antispyware acts in unpredictable ways with emails... Monday, December 7, 2009, 8:13:56 AM, you wrote: Hello Tim, On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:33:11 -0700 GMT(12/6/2009, 1:33 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:716668702.20091206123...@cox.net Tim Hamm wrote: TH Yes, except for the AntiSpamSniper I have for TB. Something unique to TB which maybe the culprit. :) Maybe another question to ask is- how many and which tools check your mail coming in? It really should in all cases be keept to the same set of emails so you can really compare them properly!! Ie, as you should be able to grab some emails which you know to be clean resend them and switch all checking off... Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restoring Folder Messages
Hello, I seem to have likely a similar problem to you due to 1 TB drive suddenly becoming inaccessible. Booted from the other one and after at least a day had a bootable system back.I now find myself with movies back on the system, books etc and programs BUT I cannot find a recognisable version of the bat on either drive Sofar no major problem as I have older drives and also have my main account via google... -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB lagging?
Hello Susanne, Saturday, August 29, 2009, at 1:46:01 AM, Susanne wrote: S S Hi, S Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:42:36 AM,jernej.listso...@ena.si wrote: I suggest you first look at disk activity while TB is switching between messages, and also try compressing the message base through Folder - Maintainance Centre. S I do this every time I close TB. Also, how many messages do you have in folders? S Many, about 100.000. S What I just noticed is that TB doesn't show up in S the Windows Task Manager as a running process, and S when I click on anything in TB, *that* process S then shows up as Not responding in the task S manager during the lag time. S CPU usage is at 3-5% at that time, then briefly S jumps to around 20% when TB finally reponds. DO you need to have access all the time to 10 msg's??? I would recommend exporting what's not needed normally and put the rest in a program not getting email's every day. Essentially with many messages involved you are asking for a crash which will also solve your problem -- tracer Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with AntiSpamSniper Version FREE Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB lagging?
Hello Tbudl, I use normally one of the amber abc programs to store unwanted or at least not immediately wanted email's. There are 2 programs (one is free) for the Bat. And many many others. just stick amber abc in google, its nr 1... -- tracer Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with AntiSpamSniper Version FREE Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
errormsg.: LEAK
Hello , I haven't got a real problem with it, but it would be nice if someone could have a look what hit me... Leaks in a program shouldn't exist! My solution was to use for one email a friends system... quote error msg: Exception EThreadlistleak in module thebat.exe at 0006CED4, Caller addresses 0070E6F4 (204 instances!), then 0070FAF6... -- tracer Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with AntiSpamSniper Version FREE Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and Mac computing
Hello Jim, Tuesday, August 25, 2009, at 8:27:42 PM, Jim Kyle wrote: . JK So the position of the %SingleRe%- line within the template IS critical JK to its operation. How do we go about reporting this as a replicable bug? JK More to the point, is it worthwhile doing so, since use of SingleRe is JK already deprecated? Would it be better to request addition of the checkbox JK for numbering to all of the Reply template dialogs? Thats probably the best solution... -- tracer Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with AntiSpamSniper Version Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and Mac computing
Hello Jim, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, at 7:32:15 PM, Jim Kyle wrote: JK See my reply to Roelof for details of the current test. The bottom group of JK lines in the template I posted earlier produce the version numbers, JK but I'm using the paid version of the sniper and the free version may not JK include the version macros (which come from the sniper, not from TB!). JK I see the checkbox on the template dialog for the entire account, but it's JK not there on the dialog to set a template for either the folder or the AB. JK If it were, that would solve the whole problem! I agree. Maybe then needs a problem-report -- tracer Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with AntiSpamSniper Version Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and Mac computing
Hello Jim, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, at 8:23:18 AM, Jim Kyle wrote: JK Tuesday, August 18, 2009, at 4:18:42 PM, MFPA wrote: I suggest re-evaluating whether your new template is working as expected; my messages do not contain the [2] in their subject line. JK No matter what I tried (putting in an address book template for the list, JK setting a folder template per my previous reply, closing TB! and JK re-starting it after each change) nothing would remove the numbers until I JK cleared the checkmark for the entire account. That did work as this post JK shows. JK Apparently if I want to have the numbers on most replies, but not on JK replies to the list, I'll have to set up a separate account for using the JK list! In such a case, why do we even keep the SingleRe macro at all? For this msg I am partly using that macro you posted. I don't see any number in the subject and also in my tail of the msg for Antispamsniper which is installed (free one) the version isn't mentioned. When you edit the templates I assume you have noticed you can if you want set a tick mark to get or not get numbers. -- tracer Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with AntiSpamSniper Version Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: using appropriate account to REPLY
Hello MONSELL, Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44:48 PM, you wrote: Dear Fiends, I got 3 email accounts (A, B C). My filter folders are all set in the COMMON FOLDER. The default email id is A account. When ever the REPLY button is pressed for a message resting in the COMMON FOLDER it opens up under A. But sometimes, the message has to be replied by B or C account. There is this function IF, THEN and ELSE used in TB and using these functions, is there a possibility for TB to recognized the email id's that has to be replied under A, B and C account??? One could store all the email id's or even better, the domain name that has to go under A and similarly to B C or only to store for B C account so that once the REPLY button is hit, TB identifies under which account that this message has to be replied. At moment, what I have done is made a QT so that if the REPLY has to be done with B account, but opens with A account, I run the QT and the FROM id changes from A to B. sometimes, it is overlooked and the REPLY goes under A which actually it should have been under B. will be pleased to hear Easiest way is as you should have done(!) to make your several accounts different. Makes life a lot easier!! I donot use common folders as I have no need for them but if you have 3 accounts you can route stuff anywhere you want (filters). If you want to keep them separate you have no choice besides KEEPING them totally separate. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Saving messages?
Hello Geoff, Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:43:09 PM, you wrote: On 14 August 2009, 17:34, Susanne wrote: is there an easy way to save a bunch of messages all at once, to the same folder, instead of one at a time? I'm still using TB version 1, but I'd be surprised if Ritlabs had removed the following functionality: 1. In the message list, select the messages you want to save. To select a contiguous set of messages, click the first then shift+click the last. To select a non-contiguous set, click the first then ctrl+click each additional message. 2. To move the messages to a TB folder, drag them to the appropriate folder in the account tree (or ctrl-drag them to copy). 3. To export the messages to a Windows folder, from the Tools menu point to Export Messages, and click the appropriate item. HTH, I used a v1 I think 10 years ago... Are you sure you don't like to have a more up to date version??? To be honest I used v1 and then v2 and then v3 and now v4 and if you ask me if it improved a lot I cannot remember what v1 did or didn't... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Saving messages?
Hello Susanne, Saturday, August 15, 2009, 12:13:17 AM, you wrote: Hi, Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:43:09 AM,ge...@gjctech.co.uk wrote: 3. To export the messages to a Windows folder, from the Tools menu point to Export Messages, and click the appropriate item. Thanks! I forgot to mention that I want to save the messages as text files. Exporting works, but only as .msg, .eml, or unix mailbox. What I'm looking for is a bulk way of saving several hundred messages as txt files in a windows folder. goto the website www.processtext.com as they have converter programs including the bat and several hundreds of others... some programs are free, some seem to not exist but its unlikely what you want isnt on their website. No idea why you want output as text but have a look as there are many programs. Quite a few also exist as torrents -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: registry entry that looks like a spelling mistake
Hello MFPA, Saturday, August 8, 2009, 9:14:15 PM, you wrote: Hi Don't know if this is peculiar to my installation but I have just spotted a registry entry that looks like a spelling mistake. Under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Editor I have a dword value called Accaunt options Index Can anybody verify? I have the same... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.38: Corruption problems with mail folders
Hello Thomas, AW I suspect you're right, I need to verify the HD as a precaution. If I were you, this would be my first action. There is no point in backing up, reinstalling, and restoring, if you'll have the same problem again due to a HD problem. To be honest if you have the slightest suspicion you have a hard disk problem I would get any data backed up on an external hard disk if its a laptop or on a spare interface/HD if its the desktop. Quite often various ways of dying hard disks can be detected but they vary in their symptoms. Are you having any other problems pointing to a failing interface or hard disk? System hanging, crashing and is defrag working ok??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.38: Corruption problems with mail folders
Hello One website great for getting tools or at least the names of tools is EASEUS. They have also a free and slow but normally quite effective copying program. Put it in google as I just tested that and there are now heaps of links. 2 years ago I had to specify Chengdu and disc utilities (g). Chengdu is a town in China with good food READ the instructions as otherwise fatal mistakes can be made -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV Plugins now working
Hello Simon, Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:14:53 PM, you wrote: 'Ello TBUDL, JIC other TB! users (those that don't download the betas) still have their AV plugins disabled in TB! - due them stopping working a while back - you can enable them again as the issues have been resolved in this latest version of TB! https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7656 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7549 Since WHAT latest version??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV Plugins now working
Hello Marek, Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:24:10 PM, you wrote: Hello all, Thursday, July 23, 2009, tracer wrote: Since WHAT latest version??? 4.2.9 available on ritlabs.com Ok, thanks , I didnt know that was out -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello Thomas, Monday, June 15, 2009, 8:49:55 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. On my work computer, it doesn't. I checked XLAT tables and all settings under Viewer/Editor, I just cannot find where to assign the font for this charset. Mails with this charset are displayed with the same font as English messages, which results in an illegible gibbledigook. Where do I set the font to be used for each charset? TIA. Same version of windows??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to kill a zombie identity in the from field
Hello Tom, Thursday, June 11, 2009, 8:21:10 AM, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I disabled one of my accounts as it received too much spam. The account still exists for the history but will not be used anymore for sending or receiving emails. I cannot find a way to stop the auto-suggestion to come up with my now deleted address on top. I went to my address book and took out the offending email but no luck, it still happens. Clicking on the from field to use the down arrows on the side and then going down to the offending address to delete it, does not work either. I believe this works in the To: field but not here. How else can I get rid of this remnant. At present with the account no longer configured to have a server address, no emails will be sent (which is good) but it is annoying that the account is chosen by the system without good reason and I have to manually override this each time. Consider the irritation for spam senders to get their own stuff back as undelivered... Anyway I think to have spotted a 'preferences' setting which can be used to add/remove accounts to track... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stitching graphics up
Hello Ian, Thursday, May 21, 2009, 12:05:35 PM, you wrote: G'day, Is there any way to Stitch graphic images up in the The Bat! HTML editor? I have been advised to do this to prevent logos/signatures/etc from being misused, however trying do this does not seem possible in The Bat!. I have seen this done where a total image is recreated of a series of blocks to get past scanners that try to determine what the image might be. Is there some way this can be done? I assume you want to prevent copying by scanning. Unless done properly, I think it always can be copied but result may be lousy I have a cooking book which I tried to scan in and essentially it doesnt work UNLESS you first scan it to paper and then scan it again to digital picture. If you scan direct to digital picture it looks terrible... Result is that photo's look ok but background and text look terrible. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with latest bat due to a virus...
Hello Tbudl, I have had the last week or so problems with my system thanks to a virus having sneaked past me and attaching itself and about 700 addons to something called by autorun.bat. All names of games which had all the same size and in which serials I would not have been interested anyway... I found it in limeware under saved downloads! What I did do was hang a big temporary drive with original data packed and protected on the drive and then reinstalled windows xp clean with a short cut to the Bat. It then wanted me to reinstall the Bat (!) which I didnt really understand as I had hoped to be able to pick the old data up. The bat was installed on C: both under tracer and user and finally under C:user from where I created a shortcut to E: Please does someone has any idea where my data went to as I thought to be sure that I didnt delete it... I sofar checked on many things but no signs of my bat except that it runs... I have 3 hard drives in the system, 2 isnt really used!\ Other problem is that I made a subdir but after shutdown and restart I see no sign of it anywhere. Most of it is on my second drive as an old backup or on google but I would like to recreate it asap as the mails are less important then the addresses. -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
filters disappeared
Hello Tbudl, I have a problem with my filters as first they disappeared, then the returned in a way (but after a Bat restart they had disappeared again) and now I see not filters... There is an option to get them back on the toolbar and so they did as orphaned filters. Now there are no filters there at all... -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message header
Hello Leonard Berkowitz Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 2:55:53 PM, you wrote: LB The question is whether I can find out if a message I send to someone LB else is then forwarded by that person to a third person. You either have to ask them to bcc you but essentially you cannot enforce it unless you stick executable code in your email... Obviously that will cause many complaints and is illegal in most places... I would anyway estimate that likely with the first mesg you send out the various antivirus programs will make alarm! -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:07:59 PM, you wrote: AT I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance AT Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks the AT moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all AT right. AT Is there some setting I should change for the address book? I would check the fonts... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 10:00:59 PM, you wrote: AT Costas Papadopoulos stelde dit idée voor : I don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, and I have no problem in copy-pasting Greek characters in the address book. AT Very interesting, Costas. I looked again and I do have both those checked in AT the font list. But if it works for you, it should work for me. AT Or is the address book font ruled by some other windows settings outside of AT TB!'s font list? AT Do you have Greek as default language in your Windows configuration, perhaps? AT If you use Windwos at all. I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably set to Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts unless the system in ASCII is set to it... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello Costas Papadopoulos Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:26:11 PM, you wrote: CP Hello tracer, CP Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:10:54 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:07:59 PM, you wrote: AT I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance AT Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks the AT moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all AT right. AT Is there some setting I should change for the address book? I would check the fonts... CP I don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek CP ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, CP and I have no problem in copy-pasting Greek characters in the address CP book. I tried it as well and address-book will accept it BUT in using it the question-marks appear. I have quite a few fonts installed, but generating a new mesg with the name in greek gives incorrect results. Seems to me that as its working on Costas system maybe enabling those 2 fonts will solve the problem... Plus maybe adding Greek also via the control panel! -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 11:12:50 PM, you wrote: AT tracer heeft uiteengezet op 25-4-2009 : I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably set to Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts unless the system in ASCII is set to it... AT I thought it might be something like that, since Costas has no problems. But I AT just tried to set my default language (at the moment Dutch, keyboard US AT International) and that did not help. I may not have done it right, though. (I AT am on Vista and I see there is another settings for the system language which I AT don't want to mess with). It remains strange to me though that the Greek is AT fine within the e-mail itself, just not in the address book. Did you reboot the system? After changing the default language?? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters: Ξηροστερνι Βαμος
Saturday, April 25, 2009, 11:21:59 PM, you wrote: t Hello Costas Papadopoulos t Saturday, April 25, 2009, 10:51:43 PM, you wrote: CP Hello, CP Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:45:35 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): AT Do you have Greek as default language in your Windows configuration, perhaps? AT If you use Windwos at all. I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably set to Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts unless the system in ASCII is set to it... CP My default language is English (US), but the language that I have set CP for non Unicode programs is Greek. t My defaults is set to English non unicode I have set to Thai And I assume that as I stuck greek in and it shows up (no idea what to do with email addresses) that it should work but note that if you have to swap a lot maybe another option would be better... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 11:15:26 PM, you wrote: AT Costas Papadopoulos stelde de volgende uitleg voor : for non Unicode programs is Greek. AT In Windows? In control panel and that is likely the only way to do it Unless you want to use a Greek email program. I remember when I was traveling around in the past BAT didn't exist) that languages always gave problems especially if contradicting hexadecimal codes are present... I dodnot know how many times systems were messed up by a German putting German programs in, as it really could mess up Thai if you had that as well... One of the Diveschools in Phuket has a Japanese language setup for japanese only -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello Eddie Castelli Sunday, April 26, 2009, 1:26:08 AM, you wrote: I had once Vista installed and after an hour I kicked it out. I know one program which needs to run in 64 bit and which also needs a lot of ram so it runs faster on vista but we have no antivirus programs and no Internet on the system. I use XP myself with SATA and a 2 core processor (pentium) EC Dear Costas, EC --- Costas Papadopoulos / Samstag 25.04.2009, 18:33:13 EC Greek characters It must have to do with a deeper settinfgs within Windows, but since I only want to experiment and won't use a lot of Greek in my addresses, I don't want to mess with the system language. During the installation of Windows I was given the option to select a language for non Unicode programs. At that point I chose Greek as that language. Doing this solved a lot of problems for me, especially where I wanted to make some input in Greek in various program dialogs. EC What OS are you using? A.Translator is using Vista. It may help in problem solving. Just a thought. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CA certificate issue
Hello Lynn Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:56:49 PM, you wrote: L 4/19/2009 t Zip or rar it before you keep it as these files are mainly that big as its all t text L Unless you can think of a reason why I would need more than a month's L worth of log, I was just going to dump them on a rotating basis. That L is, on the 1st of the month I will go and rename the current file, and L dump last month's files. L If you think I need more, then yes, I can rar them. L Thanks! L Lynn Do me a favour and winrar the 2 files properly, Keep an eye how long it takes to make and check a backup and what sizes are in both cases as I would like to know if its worth doing! If compacted files are much smaller and you have seen the size you know likely what happens with one month of data. As said compress them properly and watch security settings and then see how big it becomes. Check they are all accessible!! After you have done the backup one time and its worth it, consider buying a kingmax memory stick and run on there. Current last sticks are big enough to probably store at least a year of data.!! Obviously: watch names!! I think there will be a significant reduction in file size... Note make every month a backup and store for that month!! One you start doing it you will make your own methods to save time! But remember ALWAYS make sure to have 1 untouched copy of the data!!! And keep the month's separate as if you need the lot you likely havent got the disk-space to expand them!! -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Roelof Otten Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:35:03 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Eddie, RO On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:33:59 +0200GMT (20-4-2009, 7:33 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: EC I miss some msg from one particular account. I moved them to a EC particular folder. Today I find they aren't there anymore. RO Maybe too old or something like that? You can set that at the folder RO properties. Or did you move them to another folder than you thought? EC I want to restore the inbox from one particular account. Is this EC possible? RO Yes, take note that this will overwrite the urrent contents of that RO folder. So might want to move/copy the current messages to a different RO location. EC What I have done: I started Restore and added the backup file. Then EC I selected out of the 5 checkboxes only the second Messages and EC Folders. I didn't hit return at this moment as I am not sure what is EC coming next. EC Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? RO Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. What about using import? All you then can do wrong is generate duplicates which can be filtered out... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Eddie Castelli Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:48:46 PM, you wrote: EC Dear tracer, EC --- tracer / Montag 20.04.2009, 07:57:52 EC Restore from backup EC Any help? If you know a text or so which is guaranteed somewhere do a search over all the msgs and select ONE line where you select what to search for. Keep it simple so that if its somewhere you will find in. Then check where its sitting if you find it... Note you can also select 'last week' and *.* for the file name so you find anything saved in the last week... You should know what will give a bulls-eye! If you still have the backup file you likely have to do the restore again. Doesnt matter anyway if do it more then once as you would get duplicated email and you can get rid of those EC I've done this to no avail. I think I must do a restore. KEEP a copy of latest backup and how big is the file. Hoe many months data is in it. and HOW big is the file if rarred??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Eddie Castelli Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:53:08 PM, you wrote: EC Dear tracer, EC --- tracer / Montag 20.04.2009, 11:53:00 EC Restore from backup RO Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. What about using import? All you then can do wrong is generate duplicates which can be filtered out... EC This, as I understand, can only be done with a normal MSG file and not EC with a backup file. you are talking about a backup done from the bat??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CA certificate issue
Hello Lynn Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:37:33 AM, you wrote: L Hi all - L I'm having a problem getting a CA certificate imported/installed, L whatever it is you do with these things. Can't find anything in the L config or help files at all. Can someone shed some light? L And .. this is embarrassing, but does anyone have a suggestion as to how L to read a 355k logfile? We'd like to see what's in it today since the L smtp function quit, but GVim stopped responding when I tried to scroll L to the end of it, and I'm going to give JEdit a try, but .. looks bad, L you know? L Yes, hereafter I will start a new one on the first of every month, but I L didn't realize it was just getting bigger and bigger. I figured there L was a limit on it. Silly me. I must have set that up in a different app. L Anyway, the cert is really the thing, I think, and I'd really appreciate L input. L tia, L Lynn How big is the file? And WHAT log-file, they aren't all the same... Notepad may be a solution, otherwise wordpad and there are lots of other programs... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CA certificate issue
Hello Lynn Monday, April 20, 2009, 11:00:30 AM, you wrote: L 4/19/2009 t How big is the file? And WHAT log-file, they aren't all the same... Notepad may t be a solution, otherwise wordpad and there are lots of other programs... L No, no, it was actually 355 *meg*, but I did fix that in the end. It L did load into GVim, and in a few days I will just blow it away and save L the week as bak, and start another one. L And I won't let it get that big again. The POP log is *3.5GIGS*! lol L Its fate will be the same :-) L Thanks :-) Zip or rar it before you keep it as these files are mainly that big as its all text -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Eddie Castelli Monday, April 20, 2009, 12:33:59 PM, you wrote: EC Dear all, EC I miss some msg from one particular account. I moved them to a EC particular folder. Today I find they aren't there anymore. EC I want to restore the inbox from one particular account. Is this EC possible? EC What I have done: I started Restore and added the backup file. Then EC I selected out of the 5 checkboxes only the second Messages and EC Folders. I didn't hit return at this moment as I am not sure what is EC coming next. EC Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? EC Any help? If you know a text or so which is guaranteed somewhere do a search over all the msgs and select ONE line where you select what to search for. Keep it simple so that if its somewhere you will find in. Then check where its sitting if you find it... Note you can also select 'last week' and *.* for the file name so you find anything saved in the last week... You should know what will give a bulls-eye! If you still have the backup file you likely have to do the restore again. Doesnt matter anyway if do it more then once as you would get duplicated email and you can get rid of those -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top and bottom posting
Hello MFPA Saturday, April 18, 2009, 2:33:11 AM, you wrote: M Hi M On Wednesday 15 April 2009 at 2:47:08 PM, in M mid:374626349.20090415144...@silverstones.com, Marck D Pearlstone M wrote: I have many friends who write to me from their Hotmail accounts (shudder) or using Incredimail. It's pointless trying to inline a reply to them. M Why is that? Nobody complains when I do it. Me neither and let me tell you I hate hotmail and incredimail!!! -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top and bottom posting
Hello Nick Dutton Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 5:14:48 PM, you wrote: ND Hello Marck, ND On Wednesday, April 15, 2009, you wrote: MDP Does that help? ND Wow - let me have a look at this later on when I get some time... ND ...looks promising though. ND Thanks. Donot forget its from the member telling us in the past never to top-post(g) -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top and bottom posting
Hello Marck D Pearlstone Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 8:15:02 PM, you wrote: MDP Dear 0tracer, MDP @15-Apr-2009, 20:08 +0700 (15-Apr 14:08 here) tracer [0] in MDP mid:519688111.20090415200...@gmail.com said: MDP ... snip ND Wow - let me have a look at this later on when I get some time... ND ...looks promising though. ND Thanks. 0 Donot forget its from the member telling us in the past never to 0 top-post(g) MDP Rules for mailing lists are one thing. Personal preferences are MDP another. Requirements of business email threads, usually in MDP communications with Outlook and OE users are yet another. MDP For the first two, I vastly prefer inline posting. MDP For the final, I have no choice but to conform and do a proper MDP top-post. MDP As they say, when in Rome I know and the pity is that its not a variable option when replying to an email!! Ie rightclick on a mesg and instead of reply get reply TOPPOST, reply BOTTOMPOST, and last one inline... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top and bottom posting
Hello Marck D Pearlstone Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 8:47:08 PM, you wrote: MDP Dear Nick, MDP @15-Apr-2009, 14:36 Nick Dutton [ND] in MDP mid:297927601.20090415143...@winchmore.com said to Marck: MDP ... snip MDP For the first two, I vastly prefer inline posting. MDP ... snip ND Indeed, and the only thing worse than a long top-posted thread is a ND bottom-post fanatic making it even more difficult by insisting on ND breaking it up with an in-line comment. ND I know, I've done it ;-) MDP I may be a pedant on the list here, but in private, I'm a lot more MDP casual. There are times when an in-line reply simply makes no sense at MDP all. I have many friends who write to me from their Hotmail accounts MDP (shudder) or using Incredimail. It's pointless trying to inline a MDP reply to them. I had several users using that stuff and I got in most cases a switch to other programs... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Application Hang
Hello Thomas Fernandez Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 8:37:21 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Tim, TF On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:33:54 -0700 GMT (08/Apr/09, 3:33 +0700 GMT), TF Tim Hamm wrote: TH Over 50% of the time when trying to launch a web page within TB I TH receive an event ID 1002 Application Hang. Does anyone have a TH solution for this? Thanks. What is your default web browser (and version)? TH I'm running the most recent version of Firefox. TF So do I (3.0.8), and I don't have that problem. TF I have another problem, which should have been fixed a long time ago TF (by FF): When I click on a link in TB! and FF is not open yet, I get TF an error box titled The Bat, showing the URL and the text The TF system cannot find the file specified. I know there is a solution, TF have to google when I find the time. Thomas, I have at the moment the same problem and it came I am sure as I fiddled my system when trying to get TV via Internet. I managed that ok but I am sure it cannot find my browser as it got reset to something else which I lost as I uninstalled some of the programs. I tried to download IE8 but I cannot install it... No idea if the one I managed to download was for vista or not... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.0.38 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder organisation in v2.12
Hello Rich, Monday, April 6, 2009, 12:38:45 AM, you wrote: Rich Hello Bat-Folk! Rich After MANY YEARS of BAT-use my folders have become more than just a bit Rich in need of attention. Rich I do know how to move folders around from right within TB! but I have a Rich bigger job that would be better accomplished by using a stand-alone file Rich management software application (a Windows Explorer replacement). Rich QUESTION: Will moving the inbox folders around right on the disk drive Rich (under Windows instead of from within TB!) allow me to better organise Rich what folder is under what top level folder -or- will it somehow corrupt Rich my BAT-folders? Rich Thanks all, Rich Rich can you not create a new folder and then use the 'move to folder' command? Note I cannot remember ever having done it... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Figure Showing No. of E-mail Messages in Parentheses
Hello Chew, Thursday, April 2, 2009, 7:59:20 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL I had just sent a query to the List under the same subject heading. After sending it, I was trying to figure out again what the problem might be. I then realised that the figure in parentheses is actually the total number of messages I have in the folders I had created. This means that I had lost all the messages I had in my Inbox that I had not moved to the folders. Now my question, and an exasperated one (or two): How did all those e-mail messages get lost? Why did they disappear? My other questions, now that it appears that I have lost all those messages. Should I re-install the program? Will the messages in the folders and the new ones in the Inbox disappear if I did that? I had the program back up everything (I think). How do I restore the backup? Hello, You have a few options but most likely is that instead of moving you deleted them, ie check the deleted msgs. Second thing to try is under tools click search and search all folder for some things you are sure in the headers and search. NOTE: specify wrong search criteria and you will not find anything!! Sorry I have to town and buy something.. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: signatures in top-posted replies
Hello AC, Monday, March 16, 2009, 11:41:33 AM, you wrote: My preference is to top-post when replying to emails. So, in my template for replies, there are typically three blocks of text: my new reply text my signature quoted text What I'm having a problem with is that the editor will format everything below the signature delimiter -- as part of the signature, so the quoted text will be formatted as part of the signature. Is it possible to keep the two separate while still being able to top-post? It doesn't affect the actual, it's just affecting what i see visually in the editor. I would like to see the three separate sections with three different formats. Thanks. Saying this, my problem is that often the email write ends up open in topmode. If that's not what's required, can they change the default??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font
Hello Thomas, Sunday, March 1, 2009, 9:41:18 AM, you wrote: Thomas, have you considered complaining to THAI importer(g) -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Removing OTFE
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 7:43:48 AM, you wrote: Hello tracer, On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:56:01 +0700 GMT (19/01/2009, 09:56 +0700 GMT), tracer wrote: In addition, if you have a problem with the disk or your TB!, the encrypted files contain mails that are now unrecoverable. Happened to me on my USB stick several times. that's why I am still wiating for a Voyager with the option not to use OTFE. t Thomas, t Do you still have the voyager where you installed with?? You mean the first Voyager version? No. I am also using the thrid or fourth USB stick now. All the old sticks went dead or became too small?? Ok, but keep in mind that if you drown a stick (and yes it happens as my second daughter did that a few weeks ago!) that with a little bit of quick work it can be made to work... NOT in my daughters case as she did it properly and stuffed T-shirt-with-stick in washing machine Anyway,are you interested in maybe recovering your e-mails?? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Removing OTFE
Hello Thomas, Sunday, January 18, 2009, 9:54:43 PM, you wrote: In addition, if you have a problem with the disk or your TB!, the encrypted files contain mails that are now unrecoverable. Happened to me on my USB stick several times. that's why I am still wiating for a Voyager with the option not to use OTFE. Thomas, Do you still have the voyager where you installed with?? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Ignoring Spelling errors beyond a point
Hello Thomas, Sunday, January 18, 2009, 9:56:01 PM, you wrote: PM Thanks for the reply. It's a but unfortunate that TB isn't able PM to do it so I guess I'll learn to live with it! :) What you can do is ignore the red squibbled lines below the sig delimiter. ;-) Make 2 accounts, same setup and set the spell-check for one different dependant on if you want it or not... As you say they are red lines so it should be possible to avoid checking past it. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot open messge base file from networked computer
Hello Achdut18, Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 11:58:15 PM, you wrote: However, increasingly, in recent weeks, the laptop occasionally fails to open up the inbox of my primary account which comes through the private domain, even though it can open up the sent and outbox folders as well as all other mailboxes, including those coming from the same server as the inbox of my primary account. On the desktop, this inbox is fully accessible, although, occasionally it will also appear blank-but I have always been able to repair it using the maintenance center. Sorry to ask but have you run a disk check? I myself prefer to run one of the EASEUS programs. Note I asked if you run a checkup not to fix anything on the hard disk if there are any errors... (http://www.easeus.com/) Second question is if you have a spare Laptop hard disk (or usb disk) so that you can see if with another disk drive the problem disappears... Third one is: Is it possible to test laptop out without that 60m cable in between... Maybe your network is a bit flaky. I don't know if file size has anything to do with this, but the inbox .tbb file is about 397 MB and the entire inbox is about 2.76GB. The entire primary account is 3.02 GB (file size is determined by right clicking on the folder in Windows Explorer and going to properties. The file size listings from within The Bat do not appear to be reliable. File-sizes from MS are also not reliable... But I HAD a problem with Eudora many years in the past which was a main reason to move to the Bat.. However I have no idea what they fixed recently but something was done with the limit of 2 gb I thought. I cannot run it Do you really need all that data permanently accessible??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs
Hello MFPA, Saturday, January 10, 2009, 6:41:37 AM, you wrote: Do a search on QTB and see if finds them... Search (including hidden and system) only finds 3 QTB files: the one in my Mail ditectory for the common QTs and the ones I'm trying to delete in the account directories for the two accounts that had QTs. They must be backed up in some file other than QTB. Maybe QTN? Normally what will help, assuming the programmers don't put stuff like that in the registry, do a search for *.* in the bat program file directory. Or essentially whatever program has files 'missing' Do note that some programs have 2 places where they put files, in Documents in settings there is another directory being used... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:29:01 PM, you wrote: Hello tracer, On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:32:15 +0700 GMT (07/01/2009, 11:32 +0700 GMT), tracer wrote: t Assuming I create them all by hand for mail coming in, what's the t easiest way to copy the lot to outgoing mail and then fix them by t hand... The easiest (but not fastest) way is to support this wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 Thomas, this is supposing I guess that I can run 4.1.17 or whatever but I cannot as last time I tried I still crashed and I saw I am not the only one where either a clean or upgrade of system goes wrong. No idea what goes wrong but I end up with NO executable in the Bat directory!!! I checked it obviously manually and you can also see it as the bat Icon on desktop goes to the one used in case it refers to a missing file. And it really is missing... So I am running 4.0.38 I had a msg when booting up the bat just now that there was a new upgrade but no idea what got fixed. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hello Thomas, Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:02:26 PM, you wrote: Roelof, If you want this moved to Yahoo, no problem but maybe worth first finding out who else has a problem with latest bat. What worries me is not the destruction of the bat but the chance that the databases get destroyed with an upgrade... I have been stuck with the problem since Christmas (ie the update to 4.1 caused me the problem...) 4.1 upgrade t but I cannot as last time I tried I still crashed and I saw I am t not the only one where either a clean or upgrade of system goes wrong. t No idea what goes wrong but I end up with NO executable in the Bat t directory!!! Note my daughters computer had a bug so I fixed it getting rid of a few things at same time: I reinstalled windows in a way I would normally not do but I thought to clean things up and get my other 2 kids of her computer AND no Internet access. Ok, I have with my SMC stick but they haven't got that... Whatever with that stick and a clean the Bat I have the same problem and the Bat was never on that PC before... This is bad news. Since nobody else reported it, let's find out what is different on your system. What kind of Windows are you running? XP-PRO, sr3 Its a real windows by the way. Are you logged in as user or admin? Do you have admin rights? USER, yes Does the icon go the the new version? Hm. Over here (Win XP SP2), the file name is always the same, regardless of the version number. Filename is thebat.exe (now) and its gone if I try to install 4.1.xx. The shortcut sits on the desktop but I end-up with the icon one used for file missing. Old file gets deleted but new one doesn't get installed. t So I am running 4.0.38 I had a msg when booting up the bat just now t that there was a new upgrade but no idea what got fixed. The changelog is somewhere on the Ritlabs website. Have a look. The point being that I cannot imagine it got fixed if I am the only one complaining but I recently saw I may not be really the only one now. Maybe worth it to move this discussion to yahoo Possibly Richard L de S Clauson has a similar problem. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hello Roelof, Friday, January 9, 2009, 4:36:27 AM, you wrote: Hallo koenraad, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 00:30:14 +0700GMT (8-1-2009, 18:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: KR Filename is thebat.exe (now) and its gone if I try to install 4.1.xx. KR The shortcut sits on the desktop but I end-up with the icon one used for file KR missing. I've heard one case of someone using some obscure virus scanner that considered TB 4.1.? as a trojan and therefore deleted it. He was using Blink as anti virus, maybe that's what happening to you too. I am ashamed to say I never heard of Blink but as you know that means little. I did a search with google and it seems to be a system resident search engine. No idea if that's what you mean! AV getting into my system via various disks are F-secure, Avira, Comodo, and a few others I know and know I can ask questions. NO NORTON, NO McAfee... Easeus makes nice data recovery software/copy software but while you have to know what to watch for, no problems with it. Another website is the www.runtime.org one but lets say unknown stuff doesn't get into my system. AND, I do not mix them!! That I did only once many years ago. I noticed that I seem to have a slightly more stable system after several spy-ware files got knocked out. With a 'cleaned' hard disk I can even get updates for Avira.. So once I have F-secure back and running I will scan my system again to see what it finds as other culprits . And if the Bat works. DO you or anyone else know a WORKING program keeping track of what gets installed and what notIe FILE by FILE??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Has anyone else had The Bat crash after up/down grading to 4.1.7?
Hello Richard, Friday, January 9, 2009, 8:17:44 AM, you wrote I've now had a response via the RitLabs Ticket system and they asked for more information (from .txt .log files in root of mail directory tree) and supplied a Beta version since 4.1.7. I'd also looked at paying for the upgrade from v3 licence to the v4 licence. As I last paid for the upgrade 4 years ago I decided to pay and re-upgrade to v4.1.7 ( then to v4.1.9 as it was just released). This all worked and I now have access to the Address Book again. :-) The bat itself works??? I paid for my Thebat V4 upgrade just before Christmas and then they made an upgrade so I upgraded. Stupid in a way as an upgrade just before a holiday season is a good way to get unwanted problems. Don't know what went wrong in your case, or where you got your version (numbers) from. Have you tried doing a compact/compress of your email message base, and doing a backup, before trying to upgrade again? Also, do you, like me, need to pay for the upgrade before trying to install it? version numbers are on a page on the website where you download from.. And no, I just paid so unlikely I have to pay again for a bug fix.. Anyway after all the bugs I have seen one more or less makes little difference... (I don't mean in the bat but in general!!). I just went back to last one which worked for me: 4.0.38 . Doesn't handle msg's larger then 2 gb or so but I cannot see that to be a problem Ok, sending this and then reinstalling whatever the last update is. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs
Hello MFPA, Friday, January 9, 2009, 7:29:38 AM, you wrote: Hi On Thursday 8 January 2009 at 10:52:04 PM, in mid:295980760.20090109095...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote: I just checked my account folders and they QTB files I deleted have not been re-created. The QT editor also shows all accounts as having no QTs. Hmm. I just tried again and if I delete (or rename) the account.qtb files in the accounts, the files are still re-created and the QTs reappear in those accounts. Keeping an empty text file called account.qtb in the account folders does the trick but I am damned if I can find where the QTs are backed up. This is as irritating as windows file protection. Do a search on QTB and see if finds them... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How can I copy ALL my filters betwwn in/outbox
Hello Roelof, Probably a silly question but I don't see it in the help files. I am busy setting up filters for Incoming mail and I want to use more or less similar ones for outgoing mail but main problem is I have many mailboxes.. Assuming I create them all by hand for mail coming in, what's the easiest way to copy the lot to outgoing mail and then fix them by hand... -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Has anyone else had The Bat crash after up/down grading to 4.1.7?
Hello Richard, Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 7:49:56 AM, you wrote: Since I've had an abortive attempt to move from 4.0.38 to 4.1.7 (and then reverting to the former version) I have had a problem opening the Address Book. Every time I attempt this The Bat! crashes with the following error message: Access violation at address 0072374C in module ‘thebat.exe’. Read of address 000C. After I had installed there was no executable so no crash (g), just no email. I restored by running a reinstall of the old version. NO other changes but note you may have a slightly different problem from me as my mail databases didn't get changed by the first upgrade... I don't know what happened in your case. I'll raise this with the RitLabs Ticket system, but thought I'd ask here in case anyone can provide a quick solution. I have reverted to a previous version of the Address Book files, taken from a backup taken just before the upgrade, but to no effect. As I said, I installed the bat 4.1.13, 4.1.15 and 4.1.17 if I remember correctly and none worked as they should as NO executable was generated. So I have no idea what else worked or didn't work. I went back to 4.0.38 and things worked but no idea if this is standard. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The RitLabs email address on their website bounce!!
Hello Richard, Monday, January 5, 2009, 7:55:47 PM, you wrote: Hi Elaine, Thanks for the pointer to the Support Ticket web page. Shame that the email addresses that they advertise don't work. Monday, January 5, 2009, 5:38:21 AM, ETM (etm1...@yahoo.com) wrote: Hello Richard On Monday, January 5, 2009, you wrote I've been trying to send RitLabs an email about problems moving from v4.0.38 to v4.1.7, but all the email addresses I use just bounce. The email addresses I'm having problems with are off...@ritlabs.com, sa...@ritlabs.com, and i...@thebat.net . I think you want a support ticket by registering and signing in at https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/ticket_list.php -- Elaine Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs
www.DH2Publishing.info Nice photo's but their info is a bit odd, now they can take MANY photos result is supposed to be better?? I don't believe that at all. I have seen people who used many rolls of film and didn't produce anything useful! When I was in University 40 years ago, problem wasn't how many films were used but how quick you had the desired result!! If you know what you are doing, not many Essentially you KNOW when to push the button.. Its a feeling, how odd it may sound! Language: Considering your English, German shouldn't be THAT much of a problem... Its really in most cases a matter of time/Age... If being Spanish you can produce good English, why not German??? I am from the Netherlands... -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving Account QTs to COmmon QTs
Hello Roelof, Saturday, December 27, 2008, 7:47:27 PM, you wrote: Hallo koenraad, On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:39:10 +0700GMT (27-12-2008, 13:39 +0100, where I live), you wrote: KR I am from the Netherlands... So am I, but unfortunately that isn't an excuse to stray off topic. I have to reread the mesg I send... OK This what i answered to. = Don't tell me, I'm just another user. Log you feature request in: Don't take everything personal. I didn't. Although it may look like it the way I wrote it :) [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Some real nice photos, I wish I could read German. == Ok, I am going to shut down today as I want to find that bug they cannot find -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
last update from the bat website
Hello Tbudl, I have at present a working v4 registered and all, BUT there seems to be some thing wrong. thebat_pro_4-0-38.msi I overwrote with thebat_pro_4-1-3.msi and the result didn't have any executables on either desk-top or bat-directory. Redownloadthebat_pro_4-0-38.msi and installing reproduced a working Bat. I repeated it about 3 times with reboot in between with same result. At present I am running with old version... but it works!! Main reason I put it back in working condition is that my son needs to do some-thing for school and I just saw that office is in THAI... Not much use if they screw it up! Anyway when his sister is back I will have her sort him out... Still leaves the problem though that I cannot upgrade the Bat to latest version without corruption. -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore with all accounts
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Tom tb_l...@sunnysydney.com wrote: Hello Everyone, after giving up on Voyager, I am now trying to restore my complete email set-up via backup/restore onto my laptop. I have just done so and thought everything went smoothly. However, I now discovered that for some accounts the messages were not restored. I don't understand the system behind it. For many of my accounts I have sub-accounts for older messages (in or out), so at first I thought only the standard settings like inbox, sent can be restored (though that would be a terrible shortcoming if I ever needed to restore everything on my desktop). But then I can see that the backup went fine for two accounts and 5 other accounts remained empty. And how about virtual folders, these did not make it either. I checked the backup settings but you can only tick the accounts you want, there is no tick box for including sub-accounts or making other adjustments. Is there anything else I can do to get a fully matching copy onto my laptop? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore with all accounts
hello, there seems to be a problem of number you try to restore.No idea what it is but its between 2000 and 3000 so if you have a lot of mail, you need to restore in more then 1 run. Note this limit seems to only exist when you do a restore!! Be very careful with the new software as at present I cannot send. -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two registry keys for speller/spellcheck
Hello MFPA, It's a spell-checker and if you have a necessary key word working,there isn't any programmer who will change things if they are WORKING. I had a group working for me and it was about rule nr 1... Unless planned in advance. And a change from speller to spellcheck is understandable but from spellcheck to speller is NOT. I wouldn't even know what a speller is if I don't look it up!Was another rule that if you didn't know yourself, DON'T put it in programs.. Monday, December 15, 2008, 7:27:12 AM, you wrote: Hi On Sunday 14 December 2008 at 1:01:19 AM, in mid:601417092.20081214080...@gmail.com, tracer wrote: another reason should be that I can imagine a programmer changing keys from speller to spellcheck but not from spellcheck to speller Eh? Not sure I follow. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filter
Hello Eddie, Thanks now it works. My mistake was that when re-filtering I the two boxes 'read messages' and 'replied messages' under rules had a mark. I was assuming that I don't need to mark 'incoming mail'. If as I am assuming you are filtering on mail just arriving from the internet, I would say you need incoming mail marked as to be filtered. On the other hand once stored in its proper place if more then one is marked I would imagine it doesn't do any harm (except waste some time...) when refiltering. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two registry keys for speller/spellcheck
another reason should be that I can imagine a programmer changing keys from speller to spellcheck but not from spellcheck to speller I just tried renaming them to HKCU\Software\RIT\SpellCheck_old and HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Speller_old to see what happened. The SpellCheck version re-appeared when I used the spell checker and the Speller version did not re-appear, so I guess that confirms it. -- Best regards, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager Synch
I TRIED the other way, ie putting voyager data back into the bat and all I say is that while my system didn't cooperate, it isn't simple so don't anything you cannot recover from...tracer ` Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing
Well, I seem to remember LOADS of special pictures of the Bat over the years. Not sure how many there were but I thought many since the begin if you add special events!With many converting programs existing its just a matter of finding the correct ones. Actually it is no more difficult to offer a printable PDF or HTML for download than it is to come up with the CHM file. Apart from some rather minor formatting [page breaks can be awkward] the only downside for RITLabs is the additional traffic the PDF will generate - since many will download it. Compress it and it should make all the difference, or no difference I mean... No idea how winzip 12 behaves in practice. I tried it the last few days but it seems a bit slow... However if conversion from Sony to LIT and PDF is anything to compare with, it should be fast. Converting a cd with Sony format to LIT took not much time... Obviously some files were of the type which will not correctly convert automatic... I used some Bean cd's for the test... (books) A quick test run yesterday showed that there's one very annoying formatting problem, which I think I can tackle in relatively short time [hence: do it for free]. If it turns out I have to put in more than a reasonable amount of time I will say so and either not produce the PDF or ask for a little bit of compensation. After all, The Bat! is a commercial product and my time is precious, too. -- Dierk [DH² Publishing] www.DH2Publishing.info Writing and Imaging Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing
With the right software any manual you can look at can be printed It may not be your taste but it will print. Indeed, TB! isn't OS software, as you say, but it does come with a manual. Okay, TB!'s manual hasn't always been the best, and over the many years I have been using TB! the manual has received much criticism from users, but that's something else entirely...another topic. From the very begin I seem to remember I printed it out... Ok, on a mainframe...(g) on a laser printer... It seems to me that the manual being discussed here is a 'printable manual', which is something entirely different to an electronic manual supplied with the software...as TB! has one of those. User's getting together to produce a 'free' (I would hope) 'print ready' manual for TB! is a project that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the authors of TB! If you use a help file as starter it likely will have something to do with them. Many software vendors charge extra for printed versions of their manuals, granted, but not all vendors actually provide printed or printable versions of their manuals. This usually opens up the doors for third parties to make a bit of money, and as we all know the manual writing business is rather lucrative. It can be but not if you have to fix up whatever someone doesn't likes... What surprises me is that the moderators who know about the product as their names are on the website haven't bothered to interfere... -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[4]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
Well, I asked for that but its true and even if its supposed to be more or less similar I never had a Norwegian to try it! As said the real trick is my memory, I assume its some kind of photographic memory but it doesn't seem to work the same way... -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing
http://www.processtext.com/news.html A set of programs you (likely) never saw before. I downloaded most of them in the past but after my motorbike accident in January no idea where they ended up. But if you want to do any text converting, they are ideal. Sorry, I go bed to sleep! -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing
There are so many programs in what they have it is unlikely there isn't anything suitable. Note not all work as I found out when doing a bulk Sony format to Lit conversionThey also have email conversion stuff like the Bat! -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
Sorry to ask, but what language is it in I can read quite a few languages but some are a headache! -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
oops, I would likely get stuck!who is the expert in it so we might get an English translation?? -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
Thomas, It seems that file is damaged according to my reader PDF manual for TB: http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
It opened fine here - but don't bother downloading it unless you read Hungarian! This is not a joke. I know but one never knows. I used to be able to read quite a few languages as long as they used ABC. That was about the only restriction and obviously a dictionary. I used to read them and remember them... If the text has to do with computers it normally isn't a big problem. Finnish I can assure you is an exception! -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
You may not believe it but I can read and understand Swedish and Danish. No Norwegian though and no Finnish! I just never had the need to try and read/understand it.I have a few Swedish friends here in Thailand and Danish is close enough. Essentially I can read and remember dictionaries and with some practice it becomes real time translation Since my last accident with motorbike its not as good as it was! Add having traveled for my work I can say that if it uses ABC I likely would have been able to read or understand most of it... Arabic obviously wasn't one of them but there are many words which come from Arabic and Russian letters resemble Greek ones enough. No Thai obviously (which is a problem as I live there)... or certain odd languages which don't resemble anything else! I must admit that obviously I understand more of Thai then they realize and it becomes funny as various languages here in the neighborhood seem to be closely related... -- with greetings, tracer Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Roguemoticons updates?
Hello Monday, November 10, 2008, 8:52:23 PM, you wrote: As far as I can see I send mine in on 19-2-2002 And that was one of the very first ones! Its a guarantee that the photo doesn't bear much resemblance to me... If I remember correctly I was standing there with a frying pan, while I was busy frying a steak or something like it and then the phone went off... Ok, no time at present as tomorrow I likely have to visit immigration and then off to Had Yai to the hospital... I HAVE a new photo though but I seem to have messed a disk up and cannot locate my recovery software. -- Best regards, tracermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No Roguemoticons updates?
Hello Thomas, Monday, November 10, 2008, 9:08:03 PM, you wrote: Sorry, a question before I go Had Yai. I totally forgot what version I had but I do remember that I ordered one or so via you so what did I have No idea when this one will run out! I do remember that the first Bat I bought myself but as you will know its all such a long time ago! I do remember that you ended up with 2 registrations I cannot even remember if I ordered it before or after the Tsunami. tracer -- Best regards, tracermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No Roguemoticons updates?
Hello Thomas, Seems I messed my bat up as it doesn't send.Seems I get a server error, bad command etc so its clearly time to see what I did. Also means I cannot read your answer if any... -- Best regards, tracer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam
Hello Thomas, Friday, September 5, 2003, 12:04:17 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Paul, TF On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:18:08 +1000 GMT (04/09/2003, 12:18 +0700 GMT), TF Paul Berger wrote: I am receiving allot of spam. When the messages arrive which I do not want I have set up filters to deal with them. All that happens is that the senders just change their names of some other element of the address and then the messages continue to get past my filters. Can the Bat! deal with this kind of Spam or is it necessary to get another programme to do this work. TF A long thread ensued, and I haven't read all of it. But it is a good TF idea to use another program to do this, as spammers do tend to change TF their address, and it wouldn't be feasible to add all to the filter. As Thomas says below this line, try other products like spampal, they enable you to virtually remove all the crap. I tried it, works great but feed that whitelist and filte3r out mailing lists... Obviously having your own filters first to grab known receipients to their own folders is a smart way so that you spot incorrectly labelled spam Now incase anyone wonders why it says I am thomas as registered user, its due tos some computerised monkey taking the reservation from Thomas to enablee me to use my v2 as I upgraded a NON registered version due to a system crash, donot do this (g), I had 3 days left(!). Can someone please provide training with suitable bananas???(g) While I havent seen the bill yet as far as I am concerned the upgrade is cheap as if I go out in the evening in the place I live, I could spend half or all that subscription on beer and other stuff. Or more to the point being in Thailand I likely if I wanted could find myself walking off with 2 nice girls for that price (g). Anyway, jokes aside, I am happy not to have to worry for another serial change for v3 (g) if ever... TF There are now some plug-ins available for TB, but they are in beta TF status. I don't use them, as my email-provider offers an option to do TF this server-side. The key word is bayesian spam filtering, which TF also the TB plug-ins attempt. You couldn't do that with just the TF filters in TB. -- Best regards, tracermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0 RC1 Windows 98 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hello Vishal, Thursday, September 4, 2003, 12:22:01 PM, you wrote: V Hi Robyn V Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 9:09:56 PM, you wrote: A I used TB! 1.62 with ZA Pro 2.6 until recently using automatic mail A checking on one mail account and it worked fine. I've now switched to A TB! 2 and ZA Pro 4 and it still works just fine. RW I use TB! 2 (and v1.62 before upgrading) with the free version of ZA (as well also RW behind a hardware firewall) using automatic mail checking on two mail accounts and have RW had no problems. RW Nor do I remember having to go to any great lengths to get the automatic mail RW checking to work. V Hmm, so there's hope :) Did you do *anything* special at all in ZA to make it work V with TB apart from saying Yes to ZA's questions about whether to let TB access V the internet and send mail? Like add an SMTP server to the trusted zone or V something? What antivirus do you have running? There was a problem in the past that in Zonealarm you had to make the internet connection itself trusted. Due to a very flakey connection I see not all posts or see them very late but on MY system, not this crummy box I use I have latest ZA 4 PRO, with latest bat and essentially havent had any nproblems during a year. Before that there was a known zonealarm problem as mentioned above, not the bat... AV shouldnt matter, I use F-secure as Norton and Mcafee are useless.. -- Best regards, tracermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0 RC1 Windows 98 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Sorry for the chopped response masks, they got lost and I am on the last day of my unpaidv2... Now paid and waiting for the keys, thanks Thomas... Anyway, Zonealarm on my machine, with lots of crap loaded, using the bat, running for many hours at a time, often all night using Kazaa, I havent seen any problems. I use Xp Pro... tracer Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BLASTER WORM - was Re: can I change RE: into something else?
Hello Spike, On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:23:46 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 12:23:46 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Spike wrote: There is a tool available to check for (and remove) BLASTER at: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.removal.tool.html Am downloading it as I guess I will be busy, Sofar none of my customers have been hit -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.63 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
setting account password prevent download??
Hello tbudl, I am at present using a friends computer where I downloaded the bat to for me to use as allas I havent got a working phoneline in house and none at all in my new office. I notice that if I donot open the account the mail doesnt download on the one account with a password. I really would apreciate stuff to be collected with or without password so I can ask the secretary later to download to lot without being able to read them all.. Maybe latest beta behaves different... I cannot test!! -- Best regards, tracer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problems with my email
Hello tbudl, Please note that as I moved office I lost my phone line as it requires a different number / exchange. As a result my mailbox now and then overflows. Please ignore any bounces, I do my best to empty but at 5 mb plus per account and I have several on Thailands lousy phonelines results are not very good. -- Best regards, tracer Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Where do dupes come from?
Hello DZ-Jay, Monday, July 28, 2003, 5:23:00 PM, you wrote: DJ Some time around 7/27/2003 22:23:11, I think I heard Thomas Fernandez say: I do not remember when the behaviour was changed (because that was not added to the changelog), but I think it works this way even in the (old) Beta you have. Thanks for the info. :-) I have just set one account from leave on server to delete, and if I get I will try to manually break the internet connection during download next time there is a bunch of messages there. I will report back. DJ Oh, trust me, I go through this almost every day (very crappy Dial-up DJ connection. :) I have it set to delete and if my internet connection DJ (or the POP3 session) breaks without finishing properly messages are DJ re-downloaded next time. This is because POP3 RFC states that the DJ update state of the mail server -- in which the mailbox is updated DJ and messages are actually deleted -- only occurs when the QUIT command DJ is sent. No matter how many DELE n command you send, if the QUIT DJ command is not sent (i.e. the transaction was interrupted), the DJ mailbox will not be updated. I believe that some mailservers DJ (QPOPPER in BSDi) have an option to update the mailbox on the fly to DJ avoid this, but I don't think its too common. DJ This is in TB 1.62r. I'm looking forward for the next version, since DJ they say the behaviour has been corrected. That would be nice as at present I get chopped every few minutes... The reason I originally asked for delete all dupes but getting them zapped from the server as well would be even better... -- Best regards, tracer Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to restore folders are on hard drive.. but not in inbox
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:05:17 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, July 5, 2003, 12:05:17 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello tracer, On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:09:10 +0700 GMT (05/07/03, 09:09 +0700 GMT), tracer wrote: Have you considered giving Tools / Import / From The Bat! Message base (.TBB files) a shot? If you have a lot of msgs as I do thats a pain as it can take DAYS. I sorely miss an option to select import ALL TBB files or at least selected folders containing them and do all automatic Why do you need to import TBB files on a regular basis? In a normal working environment, there shouldn't be any TBB files floating around, it would be an exception. I have my bat on 2 systems. At home, not used for the last 6 months as phone line is bad and in the office. However after thats fixed I can see myself with 2 systems with a lot of mail to be transported back and forwards before I have it all back complete. ie essentially a kind of restore to bring 2 systems back in synchronised form. OR as tthat friend of mine has as problem, he copies the boxes on a regular basis to a cd so as not all boxes have all date (crashes etc loosing data here and there) it would ne nicee to feed all data back in via import from various cd's and then get rid of all dups... -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
filemaker
Saturday, July 5, 2003 Hello tbudl, has anyone ever used filemaker to store the bat emails?? -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problem with duplicated messages not being deleted
Friday, July 4, 2003 Hello , I realise that likely nobody has done what will be described by a friend of mine below but maybe some suggestings could be provided what may be happening and how to improve things... Essentially he collects and archives many mailing lists and uses Eudora for that. No idea why, I asked him already. Anyway he does the following: quote: EXACTLY i copy both the mbx and the toc from the cds to hardisk save them to another new box using the bat i import the eudora asfo mails mbx cd by cd kill dupes add the no dupes files to the first box in the bat the messages in the bat;'s in box looks ok, no dupes then i import the messages from the in box in the bat to forte agent all the dupes are back i am trying again the compress folder, you told me yesterday and try all over again ;-((( EOQ He doesnt like the threading of the Bat but whatever why should duplicates LOOK to be gone and be back in Agent Another friend uses filemaker to send / archive mail, has anyone experience with that? Essentially what he wants is a convenient offline mail archive... -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to restore folders are on hard drive.. but not in inbox
Hello Peter Palmreuther, On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:29:58 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Friday, July 4, 2003, 11:29:58 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Peter Palmreuther wrote: Hi Laura, On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:14:40 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have folders on my hard drive that contain the TBB files and I would like to restore that in the Bat. Is there a way to bring the messages back in? Have you considered giving Tools / Import / From The Bat! Message base (.TBB files) a shot? If you have a lot of msgs as I do thats a pain as it can take DAYS. I sorely miss an option to select import ALL TBB files or at least selected folders containing them and do all automatic -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation in xxxxx ?
Hello Mike Alexander, On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:25:21 + GMT your local time, which was Friday, February 7, 2003, 7:25:21 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Mike Alexander wrote: Hi Spike, Thursday, February 6, 2003, 12:18:27 PM, you wrote: S This usually happens when a mail folder (messages.tbb) gets S larger than 2GB. This exceeds the FAT32 file size limit. You'll S find that some mail folder can no longer accept new messages too! S Just happened (again) to me on Monday ;-( You mean...there are people out there still using FAT? shock, horror ;-) I do and I always ask customers if they want Fat or NTFS. Reason is that if they mess up windows Xp as an example its much easier to get data off and reinstall then having to fight NTFS and its 'security'. One can do it, just much more of a headache. My data drive has NTFS on my video system for obvious reasons.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.63 Beta/5 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation in xxxxx ?
Hello Miguel A. Urech, On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:53:34 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, February 6, 2003, 7:53:34 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Hello Spike, NO! to bloat mail ;-) He probably can can save half the space in that file by removing the quotation at the end of the messages -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.63 Beta/5 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AB templates?
Hello mm Meister, AM This sounds like your computer is busy with another process and AM this is affecting the editor. This happens to me as well when I'm AM doing a lot of things concurrently, especially CPU intensive AM things. That describes exactly the problem I used to have before getting the new machine. The way I remedied it was to turn off the flying bat and the ticker. I didn't get as much letter dropping or hesitations after that. Get rid of active desktop if you are using it.. Set all that display stuff to standard or better style like 98. Donot run too much stuff at the same time Use enough memory No idea what you are using but believe me, most systems are running less memory then they need. I often make my customers the offer that I will fit extra ram free of charge, ie I remove it if they donot want it. Most see so much speed difference they want to keep what I put in If you run anything like Xp or 2000, consider that the faster the processor, the more ram you need to buffer between hard disk / processor as afterall the hard disk is the stone behind your computer and slowing it down. if you run many internet tasks, multiple downloads or whatever enough memory is a must. -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
Hello Jonathan Angliss, On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 22:29:46 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 11:29:46 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jonathan Angliss wrote: Just as a curious question... why do your replies have a *huge* gap between the hello stuff, and the reply message? This email I'm replying to was 1/2 way down the screen before it go to the original post, and on 1024x768 resolution, that is a fair chunk. Sorry. ended up back in hospital as my foot needed a skingraft as old skin didnt regroww properly. No idea yet if the new skin from my leg is doing any better . Anyway reading weeks of mail and obviously not answering all but this one caught my attention since it was adressed to me.. Ok, I tend in programming to leave empty lines between blocks of code and this is clearly the wrong thing to do in the bats 'forms' as an empty line in there ends up being an empty line in the answer... Several expressions and other stuff and you have an extra 6 lines Thanks, I will revamp all of them! -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.62/Beta7 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Receive Mail Password.
Hello Chris Weaven, On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:12:20 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, November 23, 2002, 7:12:20 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Chris Weaven wrote: Hi The Bat! user, After reading peoples comments on MailWasher, I decided to give it a go. I know you can do lots of the stuff using the Mail Dispatcher, but just wanted to try mailwasher myself and to try it out for a friend with a Hotmail account. On that note, quick question, I can't remember if TB! support Hotmail accounts? The problem is, I can't remember my receive mail password and I can't copy and paste it from TB! to mailwasher, as TB! doesn't allow the copying of the password. Is there anyway I can find out what my password is? there are on the net some prograns around called addvanced password recovery and they exist for email, word, excel, PDF etc Demos are downloadable and while it may only give the first 4 letters it may be enough to make you remember the rest. An alternative is a program which reads any field you can highlight and shows the password. Its freeware, I have it and will happily email it to you. If I remember correctly it read my bat passwords on myrealbox.com accounts.. Name is revelation and last version is v2 ( I think) try a search engine... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60q mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Receive Mail Password.
Hello Daniel Hirning, On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 12:07:42 +1100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, November 23, 2002, 8:07:42 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Daniel Hirning wrote: HA! how funny - of course something so 'stupid' has never happened to me ;-) Happened to me and quite a few of my customers. you would be surprised how often a password is entered and they forget it. or Mistyped!!!. Give Snadboys Revelation a go, it can (sometimes) reveal what is under the * in a text box. As far as I know it works with the bat... I use windows XP Pro Sr1. I haven't tried it with TB, or used it for a few years, but it saved my butt a few times a couple of years ago... Give it a go, hope it helps. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60q mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
Hello Marcus Ohlström, On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:06:20 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, November 22, 2002, 6:06:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marcus Ohlström wrote: On Friday, November 22, 2002, 11:53, tracer wrote: One can put aa password on a mail account so that downloaded mail cannot be read (easily) by someone else. However unless I see it wrong when aa mailrun is done it also doesnt download / send mail from password protected accounts... I donot even see a warning unless I ask ONLY to get mail for a protected account. If this behavious is correct, please consider changing it as I donot want to prevent downloading my mail, just others reading it.. Look under Account - Properties - Options. Check Allow send/fetch without entering the access password (if any). That should do what you want. thanks, shows that after all these years one is still learning... reminds me, I just see that my post was semi bounced with following message...: Your mail to 'TBUDL' with the subject password on messages Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message may contain administrivia Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/confirm/tbudl/etc etc question is really what triggered the toast... I obviously will have a good look at the stromgrade website as it looks like an intriguing message... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60q mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (SOT) Use of Re: in the subject line
Hello Carsten Thönges, On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:07:02 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, November 22, 2002, 8:07:02 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Carsten Thönges wrote: * Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon wrote: In a recent discussion with a friend I was _told_ ;) that 'Re:' used in the subject line of an email was an abbreviation for 'Reply' Anyhow, after thinking about it, I can understand that using Re: in a *new message* to mean 'Regarding' may be confounding to the recipient of it as it may be mistaken to mean a 'Reply', but I am still uncertain whether there is an actual proper or accepted usage of 'Re:' in email messages. Re: stands for Reply. No. As the RFC says it means res. it stands as far as I know for 'reference'... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60q mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
