Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Hmm! you have a good point there Tony. I never thought of that. Perhaps that is the reason I bought the rotary hinged type in the first place. ☺️ I tie parachutes once in a while, but can't remember what hackle pliers I use. My go to hackle pliers are the electrical style as long as they have a ring to hold or put your finger in. They grip the hackle well. Next time I tie some parachute hackled flies I will remember to use the rotary pliers. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:56 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal mailto:joyce...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
I display my flies at my tying station with the Electric clips mounted on a board with holes that is part of my tying station. I use the mini clips. Yes they are great for holding flies.I was told today by my therapist who is a shooter that he gets his ear plugs from Harbor Freight. He buys them by a box of 1000.. He says they are the same as the poppers I posted on Facebook. That is what I used for the Popper Swap.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 4:36 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Tony: I’ll have to try those electrical hooks as I bought a dozen of them a while back when tying the poppers for the swap as they make GREAT holders while painting the popper heads and waiting for it to dry while I’m waiting to put on the next coat, or the final clear coats. Well, I guess I change my mind more than most women LOL.. Last night, I had not hit the “order button” yet as I couldn’t order it till this morning after 6am. So, I took the two sets of swivel hackle pliers off and added more beetle and spider foam bodies. Then, after thinking about it again at about 3 in the am, I re-added the pliers back to the order and also added a spider body foam “cutter” to the order as I tie those flies all the time and never can make them look decent by cutting the foam by hand LOL... So, I went over the budget my wife gave me to spend, but I reminded her about how many fish she catches with those spider patterns, beetle patterns, and ant patterns, as I use about the same shape for all three LOL.. It did the trick and she ain’t mad at me after all. Not if I tie her a bunch of good fish catching flies anyway LOL... I’ll have to try spiders with hot pink and copper colored bodies and see they catch fish as well as the Chili Pepper and the PPP fly do for us. One thing about a fish is that you never know until you try. Oh, and talking about going over budget on things, we JUST last week had a brand new, Harbor Freight super store open here about 15 miles from our house. I’d love to go in there with a wad of cash LOL... Chuck From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:52 PMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Nev,I also used the Electrical hooks and they work fine just like a good pair of pliers. I wrap my Parachutes a bit different than normal. What I find I can hold the arm vertical while the pliers is alt an angle. I can work the hackle down under the upper wrap then over the hook shank and dip back under the wrap with a up and down motion. It just works well for me. I found I have more control with the hinge pliers than I have with the fixed pliers. The beauty of it all is we can do what works best for us.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 12:25 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Hmm! you have a good point there Tony. I never thought of that. Perhaps that is the reason I bought the rotary hinged type in the first place. ☺️ I tie parachutes once in a while, but can't remember what hackle pliers I use. My go to hackle pliers are the electrical style as long as they have a ring to hold or put your finger in. They grip the hackle well. Next time I tie some parachute hackled flies I will remember to use the rotary pliers. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:56 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Nev,I also used the Electrical hooks and they work fine just like a good pair of pliers. I wrap my Parachutes a bit different than normal. What I find I can hold the arm vertical while the pliers is alt an angle. I can work the hackle down under the upper wrap then over the hook shank and dip back under the wrap with a up and down motion. It just works well for me. I found I have more control with the hinge pliers than I have with the fixed pliers. The beauty of it all is we can do what works best for us.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 12:25 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Hmm! you have a good point there Tony. I never thought of that. Perhaps that is the reason I bought the rotary hinged type in the first place. ☺️ I tie parachutes once in a while, but can't remember what hackle pliers I use. My go to hackle pliers are the electrical style as long as they have a ring to hold or put your finger in. They grip the hackle well. Next time I tie some parachute hackled flies I will remember to use the rotary pliers. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:56 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Allan give Chuck a break. LOLA rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning.BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Tony: I’ll have to try those electrical hooks as I bought a dozen of them a while back when tying the poppers for the swap as they make GREAT holders while painting the popper heads and waiting for it to dry while I’m waiting to put on the next coat, or the final clear coats. Well, I guess I change my mind more than most women LOL.. Last night, I had not hit the “order button” yet as I couldn’t order it till this morning after 6am. So, I took the two sets of swivel hackle pliers off and added more beetle and spider foam bodies. Then, after thinking about it again at about 3 in the am, I re-added the pliers back to the order and also added a spider body foam “cutter” to the order as I tie those flies all the time and never can make them look decent by cutting the foam by hand LOL... So, I went over the budget my wife gave me to spend, but I reminded her about how many fish she catches with those spider patterns, beetle patterns, and ant patterns, as I use about the same shape for all three LOL.. It did the trick and she ain’t mad at me after all. Not if I tie her a bunch of good fish catching flies anyway LOL... I’ll have to try spiders with hot pink and copper colored bodies and see they catch fish as well as the Chili Pepper and the PPP fly do for us. One thing about a fish is that you never know until you try. Oh, and talking about going over budget on things, we JUST last week had a brand new, Harbor Freight super store open here about 15 miles from our house. I’d love to go in there with a wad of cash LOL... Chuck From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:52 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Nev, I also used the Electrical hooks and they work fine just like a good pair of pliers. I wrap my Parachutes a bit different than normal. What I find I can hold the arm vertical while the pliers is alt an angle. I can work the hackle down under the upper wrap then over the hook shank and dip back under the wrap with a up and down motion. It just works well for me. I found I have more control with the hinge pliers than I have with the fixed pliers. The beauty of it all is we can do what works best for us. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 12:25 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Hmm! you have a good point there Tony. I never thought of that. Perhaps that is the reason I bought the rotary hinged type in the first place. ☺️ I tie parachutes once in a while, but can't remember what hackle pliers I use. My go to hackle pliers are the electrical style as long as they have a ring to hold or put your finger in. They grip the hackle well. Next time I tie some parachute hackled flies I will remember to use the rotary pliers. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:56 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Don: Well, as you’ll see in my post just now, I did order the rotary hackle pliers, but If they don’t work for me, the good news is that I’m only out about $8. I have only used the type you talk about with the rubber pads, and have great success with them, but just wanted to try something new. I have a cheap all metal pair that I got with my starter kit 10 yrs ago, but hate those as #1 the grip part is too small, and #2, they break the hackle stems as you say here. Can’t wait to see the You Tube videos. You might go viral and then You Tube will start sending you a check each month. I have a friend who makes good money, while teaching others his techniques at the same time. It’s a win/win for him. I want to see the trick shots as somebody just opened a new pool hall here that is DRY, which means you can go there and not have to worry about the drunks etc, and I love to play pool, just don’t like playing with drunks LOL... Only trick shot I have is knocking the eight ball in FIRST LOL... Or “scratching” with the cue ball. I can do that shot REAL I hardly EVER miss it in fact. Chuck From: Don Ordes Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:18 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck, Seems like you came up with the correct decision to nix the rotary hackle pliers. I have a set and never use them. I also have an old squeeze-spring type with rubber pads, and I’ll use them before the rotary. The rubber pads on the old pliers are the key as they don’t allow the pliers to put a break-bend in the hackle stem, just a ‘soft’ bend at most. The rotary is hard metal and if you put any angle on the hackle while pulling you break the hackle with the crack in the stem that it creates. The old hackle pliers is a spring loop and you can put your finger in the bend and sort of ‘rotary’ the hackle. Secondly, the ‘old’ hackle pliers came in handy with the old short hackles, which is all we had for decades- sometimes took two hackles to tie a fly. With the advent of Hoffman’s, and then Whiting genetics, the hackles are so long that it’s easy to hang on to the hackle tip with your fingers while winding. I’ve just struck up a deal with a local friend here in Nampa to be my videographer and editor. I have been so busy with work I haven’t had time to even keep up with Fantasy Fly orders. But he’s going to assist me in YouTube tutorial videos, DVDs, and other videos I want to do. After we do a rope-dub intro video, we’ll do some fundamental tying tutorials, and I have a list of a dozen fundamentals that I will post videos on, one of them being innovative ways of using Whiting hackles. I’m also going to do a video of my old pool trick shots from 30 years ago. Should be fun. DonO From: Chuck Alexander Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:16 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander
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Give us a report when you do.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 3:23 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Makes sense to me. I will certainly give it a try. Right now, I have to tie some chironomid patterns for when the lakes become ice free. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 12:52 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Nev,I also used the Electrical hooks and they work fine just like a good pair of pliers. I wrap my Parachutes a bit different than normal. What I find I can hold the arm vertical while the pliers is alt an angle. I can work the hackle down under the upper wrap then over the hook shank and dip back under the wrap with a up and down motion. It just works well for me. I found I have more control with the hinge pliers than I have with the fixed pliers. The beauty of it all is we can do what works best for us.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 12:25 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Hmm! you have a good point there Tony. I never thought of that. Perhaps that is the reason I bought the rotary hinged type in the first place. ☺️ I tie parachutes once in a while, but can't remember what hackle pliers I use. My go to hackle pliers are the electrical style as long as they have a ring to hold or put your finger in. They grip the hackle well. Next time I tie some parachute hackled flies I will remember to use the rotary pliers. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:56 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Allan give Chuck a break. LOLA rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning.BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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Makes sense to me. I will certainly give it a try. Right now, I have to tie some chironomid patterns for when the lakes become ice free. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 12:52 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Nev, I also used the Electrical hooks and they work fine just like a good pair of pliers. I wrap my Parachutes a bit different than normal. What I find I can hold the arm vertical while the pliers is alt an angle. I can work the hackle down under the upper wrap then over the hook shank and dip back under the wrap with a up and down motion. It just works well for me. I found I have more control with the hinge pliers than I have with the fixed pliers. The beauty of it all is we can do what works best for us. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 12:25 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Hmm! you have a good point there Tony. I never thought of that. Perhaps that is the reason I bought the rotary hinged type in the first place. ☺️ I tie parachutes once in a while, but can't remember what hackle pliers I use. My go to hackle pliers are the electrical style as long as they have a ring to hold or put your finger in. They grip the hackle well. Next time I tie some parachute hackled flies I will remember to use the rotary pliers. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:56 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote: Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal mailto:joyce...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Wayne: I’m glad you posted this, because that’s the kind I cannot use. But others can, while others like the rubber footed ones like myself, while others like the rotary pliers. So this way, since I went ahead and ordered the rotary pliers I can see for myself which ones I really like best. Chuck From: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:38 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Not trying to complicate the issue but, my favorite hackle pliers are mini-grabbers. The really small ones, I think they're about an inch long and dirt cheap! Wayne Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net; To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Sent: Fri, Mar 13, 2015 10:18:34 PM Yeah Allan. Quit picking ion Chuck LOL... J/K. Tony brings up something that will make the rotary pliers WELL worth the money to me. I hadn’t even thought about parachute hackles. That’s one of the hardest things for me to do. In fact, I just don’t tie them as I ALWAYS make a mess out of them. But now that he brought that to my attention, I’ll try them again as I love how they make the fly sit flat and upright on the water for me when they are tied correctly. Normally, around here, after hatches really start up, you can cast a parachute tied dry fly late in the evening onto the water, just let it sit there and if there is a fish within 10ft or so, before the ripples stop they will pop the fly 9 times out of ten . Chuck From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread
Re: [VFB] Hook trade wanted.
Neville: I ordered them in size 8 tonight for bluegill as we don’t have any trout where I’m at, so we’ll see if they catch bluegill/bass, or crappie coming soon I hope. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:25 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Hook trade wanted. I have some of the 37160 hooks but they are size 1/0 and were favoured for a steelhead nymph fly some 30 odd years ago. I tied several of the flies but never caught anything on them. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: I just now went ahead and ordered some of these hooks online. Thanks for the ppl’s responses anyway. Has anybody tried this type “San Juan Worm” tied on these type hooks?? If so, any luck??? Thanks, Chuck From: Chuck Alexander Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Hook trade wanted. Folks: I am in need of a few Mustad (or other brand) Classic 37160 (shown here http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mustad-classic-37160-fly-hook ) hooks in a size 6-10, with a preference of sized 6 and 8. I have some bass hooks, kinked back popper hooks, saltwater hooks (stainless steel) etc that I will trade hook for hook if somebody will trade with Me. I want to tie some copper wire and peacock herl “San Juan Worm” patterns I saw tied on these hooks as I have never had much luck with the traditional San Juan Worm flies. The other day, when digging up some old dead plants from my raised beds in the garden, found a lot of wigglers and red worms, so I thought about using those on a bare hook and casting them as an :” Alabama Juan Worm” fly LOL... Contact me OFF LIST to see if we can work a trade. I’d like to have about 25-100 in different sizes if possible,mix or match if possible and will trade other types of materials. The hooks as you can see, are $9.50 per hundred, which is mot much by itself, but since I want nix or match, it could run up quite a bill for ones I may or may not ever use, which is why I’d rater trade for them if possible. Or, I’d buy 50-100 (or however many you have so I can at least try out the pattern I’m wanting to try) mix or match from you outright, and will pay more if you have a brand that is more expensive than the Mustad shown in the link I have attached. I have all sorts of materials, but especially chenille and rubber (silli) legs in particular to trade for them if you don’t need/want more hooks. Thanks, Chuck chuckalexan...@centurylink.net No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9294 - Release Date: 03/13/15 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I have some of the 37160 hooks but they are size 1/0 and were favoured for a steelhead nymph fly some 30 odd years ago. I tied several of the flies but never caught anything on them. Nev On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: I just now went ahead and ordered some of these hooks online. Thanks for the ppl’s responses anyway. Has anybody tried this type “San Juan Worm” tied on these type hooks?? If so, any luck??? Thanks, Chuck From: Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: fly fishing for panfish mailto:flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Hook trade wanted. Folks: I am in need of a few Mustad (or other brand) Classic 37160 (shown here http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mustad-classic-37160-fly-hook http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mustad-classic-37160-fly-hook ) hooks in a size 6-10, with a preference of sized 6 and 8. I have some bass hooks, kinked back popper hooks, saltwater hooks (stainless steel) etc that I will trade hook for hook if somebody will trade with Me. I want to tie some copper wire and peacock herl “San Juan Worm” patterns I saw tied on these hooks as I have never had much luck with the traditional San Juan Worm flies. The other day, when digging up some old dead plants from my raised beds in the garden, found a lot of wigglers and red worms, so I thought about using those on a bare hook and casting them as an :” Alabama Juan Worm” fly LOL... Contact me OFF LIST to see if we can work a trade. I’d like to have about 25-100 in different sizes if possible,mix or match if possible and will trade other types of materials. The hooks as you can see, are $9.50 per hundred, which is mot much by itself, but since I want nix or match, it could run up quite a bill for ones I may or may not ever use, which is why I’d rater trade for them if possible. Or, I’d buy 50-100 (or however many you have so I can at least try out the pattern I’m wanting to try) mix or match from you outright, and will pay more if you have a brand that is more expensive than the Mustad shown in the link I have attached. I have all sorts of materials, but especially chenille and rubber (silli) legs in particular to trade for them if you don’t need/want more hooks. Thanks, Chuck chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Marty: Tnx. That one looks very user friendly. I have one of their bobbins and I use it almost exclusively. It was very expensive but I believe it is well worth it because I use it so much and feels good while you are using it. I’ll bet the hackle pliers are that good also? phxflytyer Phoenix,AZ Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:43 PM, MartinWestbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: Hi Alan, Here’s a link to the (Japanse) website. http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html They are expensive (maybe $ 30 or so) but if mine would break, I’d get a new one right away. Mart Van: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Di Somma Verzonden: zaterdag 14 maart 2015 01:36 Aan: VFB List Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Marty: Could you post a pic of the CF plier? phxflytyer Phoenix,AZ Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:13 PM, MartinWestbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl mailto:martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: Yup. I have the CF hackle pliers and they help me tie parachutes when the hackle is getting small. Great tool! From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal mailto:joyce...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the
RE: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
I think they are, Alan. The knurled handle rotates, there is a rotating joint from the metal to the rubber section, and the rubber section is a hinge. I’ve had mine for 15 yrs (I tie a *lot*) and this year the pads for the index finger and thumb are showing signs of wear. Otherwise – great. One other thing: they have a nice heft to them. You could hackle a fly halfway, do some honey-dos ant three days later J continue the hackle where you left off. Mart Van: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Di Somma Verzonden: zaterdag 14 maart 2015 01:52 Aan: VFB List Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Marty: Tnx. That one looks very user friendly. I have one of their bobbins and I use it almost exclusively. It was very expensive but I believe it is well worth it because I use it so much and feels good while you are using it. I’ll bet the hackle pliers are that good also? phxflytyer Phoenix,AZ Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:43 PM, MartinWestbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: Hi Alan, Here’s a link to the (Japanse) website. http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html They are expensive (maybe $ 30 or so) but if mine would break, I’d get a new one right away. Mart Van: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [ mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Di Somma Verzonden: zaterdag 14 maart 2015 01:36 Aan: VFB List Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Marty: Could you post a pic of the CF plier? phxflytyer Phoenix,AZ Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:13 PM, MartinWestbeek mailto:martinwestb...@planet.nl martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: Yup. I have the CF hackle pliers and they help me tie parachutes when the hackle is getting small. Great tool! From: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: mailto:joyce...@gmail.com Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is
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Yeah Allan. Quit picking ion Chuck LOL... J/K. Tony brings up something that will make the rotary pliers WELL worth the money to me. I hadn’t even thought about parachute hackles. That’s one of the hardest things for me to do. In fact, I just don’t tie them as I ALWAYS make a mess out of them. But now that he brought that to my attention, I’ll try them again as I love how they make the fly sit flat and upright on the water for me when they are tied correctly. Normally, around here, after hatches really start up, you can cast a parachute tied dry fly late in the evening onto the water, just let it sit there and if there is a fish within 10ft or so, before the ripples stop they will pop the fly 9 times out of ten . Chuck From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group,
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Not trying to complicate the issue but, my favorite hackle pliers are mini-grabbers. The really small ones, I think they're about an inch long and dirt cheap! Wayne Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I just now went ahead and ordered some of these hooks online. Thanks for the ppl’s responses anyway. Has anybody tried this type “San Juan Worm” tied on these type hooks?? If so, any luck??? Thanks, Chuck From: Chuck Alexander Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Hook trade wanted. Folks: I am in need of a few Mustad (or other brand) Classic 37160 (shown here http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mustad-classic-37160-fly-hook ) hooks in a size 6-10, with a preference of sized 6 and 8. I have some bass hooks, kinked back popper hooks, saltwater hooks (stainless steel) etc that I will trade hook for hook if somebody will trade with Me. I want to tie some copper wire and peacock herl “San Juan Worm” patterns I saw tied on these hooks as I have never had much luck with the traditional San Juan Worm flies. The other day, when digging up some old dead plants from my raised beds in the garden, found a lot of wigglers and red worms, so I thought about using those on a bare hook and casting them as an :” Alabama Juan Worm” fly LOL... Contact me OFF LIST to see if we can work a trade. I’d like to have about 25-100 in different sizes if possible,mix or match if possible and will trade other types of materials. The hooks as you can see, are $9.50 per hundred, which is mot much by itself, but since I want nix or match, it could run up quite a bill for ones I may or may not ever use, which is why I’d rater trade for them if possible. Or, I’d buy 50-100 (or however many you have so I can at least try out the pattern I’m wanting to try) mix or match from you outright, and will pay more if you have a brand that is more expensive than the Mustad shown in the link I have attached. I have all sorts of materials, but especially chenille and rubber (silli) legs in particular to trade for them if you don’t need/want more hooks. Thanks, Chuck chuckalexan...@centurylink.net No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9286 - Release Date: 03/12/15 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Hi Alan, Here’s a link to the (Japanse) website. http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html They are expensive (maybe $ 30 or so) but if mine would break, I’d get a new one right away. Mart Van: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Di Somma Verzonden: zaterdag 14 maart 2015 01:36 Aan: VFB List Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Marty: Could you post a pic of the CF plier? phxflytyer Phoenix,AZ Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:13 PM, MartinWestbeek mailto:martinwestb...@planet.nl martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: Yup. I have the CF hackle pliers and they help me tie parachutes when the hackle is getting small. Great tool! From: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: mailto:joyce...@gmail.com Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,
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Marty: Could you post a pic of the CF plier? phxflytyer Phoenix,AZ Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian. Henry Ford On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:13 PM, MartinWestbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: Yup. I have the CF hackle pliers and they help me tie parachutes when the hackle is getting small. Great tool! From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Allan give Chuck a break. LOL A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning. BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal mailto:joyce...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
LOL... My nick name ain’t hard head for nothing hahaha, Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9286 - Release Date: 03/12/15 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9286 - Release Date: 03/12/15 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9286 - Release Date: 03/12/15 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: [VFB] Attn. Tony.. White water demon fly question??
That Dick's Dandy sounds like one of the flies that were submitted for the Sowbug Tying Contest. I think it was in the streamer category. We did the judging on those flies last night. Sounds like a good one. We had over 50 flies submitted.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 12:57 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Tony: Will do. Chuck From: 'TONY SPEZIO' via VFB Mail Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 5:03 PMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Attn. Tony.. White water demon fly question?? Let me know how you make out. tony Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Tony: Thanks a lot. I’ll try them for sure. I’m also thinking that with the water still cold here in te rivers/lakes, therefore making crappie more sluggish, that by fishing them by moving them just a bit at a time I’ll catch more fish at this time of the yr. Thanks again,Chuck From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:30 AMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Attn. Tony.. White water demon fly question?? Chuck,I have really have not been able to get out and fish much at all for the past two years but I have tyed some WRD's for others that have fished them. Last year I tyed a dozen for a friend that fishes for Crappie and White Bass. He said he caught a load of them on the WRD. In years past I have done very well on it for Trout and Gills.Tony On Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:14 AM, Gary Webb glwranger...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck, This is one from the early years of the VFB. I can't remember Dick's last name. I want to say Stock, or Stockton. Maybe somebody here remembers. Anyway, it is an easy fly to tie and does work well. Dick's Dandy: #8 3XL streamer hookTail Red hackle tail 3/8 long.body 9 strands of peacock herl spun into a chenille.beard red hackle tied down. wing White over black bucktail (Sparse) Do not let the wing extend past the bend of the hook more than 1/8or the fly will foul. This fly MUST be fished with a sinking tip line. Adding split shot ruins the action of the fly. Use short and long strips with long pauses. The fish will most offen take on the pause. The fly will suspend if tied correctly. It's a simple fly to tie but very effective. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Tony, I was just watching your DVD’s again to get some ideas and have a question about the White Water Demon fly. Do you (or others) report catching a lot of crappie with that fly?? Reason I ask is because I think with that pearlescent white chenille body, the flashabou in the tail, then the red threaded collar, (which would look like tiny gills on the minnow I think) it would look just like a Missouri shiner minnow swimming through the water and most ppl around here fish with either those minnows, or a white on white jig to catch the most crappie with and we are planning to do some crappie fishing at night IF it will ever stop raining here LOL.. Thanks, Chuck Also, does anybody else here have a “Crappie killer” pattern they tie??? If so, can you share it with me/us?? Thanks... -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9284 - Release Date: 03/12/15-- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Don,I agree with you on the old type hackle pliers but I really don't use them anymore since I use the hinge type. I added a bit of shrink tubing on the jaws and that works fine and prevents slipping.One of the things I liked about the old type is you could put your finger in the loop and just twirl it around with the hackle. I liked it for collar hacklesWhen I started tying a number of Parachute flies that is when I went to the hinge pliers and I just never went back to the old ones.We just use what works best for us.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 9:18 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Chuck,Seems like you came up with the correct decision to nix the rotary hackle pliers. I have a set and never use them. I also have an old squeeze-spring type with rubber pads, and I’ll use them before the rotary. The rubber pads on the old pliers are the key as they don’t allow the pliers to put a break-bend in the hackle stem, just a ‘soft’ bend at most. The rotary is hard metal and if you put any angle on the hackle while pulling you break the hackle with the crack in the stem that it creates. The old hackle pliers is a spring loop and you can put your finger in the bend and sort of ‘rotary’ the hackle. Secondly, the ‘old’ hackle pliers came in handy with the old short hackles, which is all we had for decades- sometimes took two hackles to tie a fly. With the advent of Hoffman’s, and then Whiting genetics, the hackles are so long that it’s easy to hang on to the hackle tip with your fingers while winding. I’ve just struck up a deal with a local friend here in Nampa to be my videographer and editor. I have been so busy with work I haven’t had time to even keep up with Fantasy Fly orders. But he’s going to assist me in YouTube tutorial videos, DVDs, and other videos I want to do. After we do a rope-dub intro video, we’ll do some fundamental tying tutorials, and I have a list of a dozen fundamentals that I will post videos on, one of them being innovative ways of using Whiting hackles. I’m also going to do a video of my old pool trick shots from 30 years ago. Should be fun. DonO From: Chuck Alexander Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:16 AMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Allan give Chuck a break. LOLA rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning.BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug.Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AMTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4306/9286 - Release Date: 03/12/15 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Guess I must be the odd ball. I use the old style pliers as weights to keep stuff from unwinding, for the winding of hackle I use one of several rotary style hackle pliers. My rotary vise I use just to check the off side of a fly or work on the underside of a fly. What ever floats your boatjust make sure the drain plug is in place. Gary S - Original Message - Don, I agree with you on the old type hackle pliers but I really don't use them anymore since I use the hinge type. I added a bit of shrink tubing on the jaws and that works fine and prevents slipping. One of the things I liked about the old type is you could put your finger in the loop and just twirl it around with the hackle. I liked it for collar hackles When I started tying a number of Parachute flies that is when I went to the hinge pliers and I just never went back to the old ones. We just use what works best for us. Tony On Friday, March 13, 2015 9:18 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Chuck, Seems like you came up with the correct decision to nix the rotary hackle pliers. I have a set and never use them. I also have an old squeeze-spring type with rubber pads, and I’ll use them before the rotary. The rubber pads on the old pliers are the key as they don’t allow the pliers to put a break-bend in the hackle stem, just a ‘soft’ bend at most. The rotary is hard metal and if you put any angle on the hackle while pulling you break the hackle with the crack in the stem that it creates. The old hackle pliers is a spring loop and you can put your finger in the bend and sort of ‘rotary’ the hackle. Secondly, the ‘old’ hackle pliers came in handy with the old short hackles, which is all we had for decades- sometimes took two hackles to tie a fly. With the advent of Hoffman’s, and then Whiting genetics, the hackles are so long that it’s easy to hang on to the hackle tip with your fingers while winding. I’ve just struck up a deal with a local friend here in Nampa to be my videographer and editor. I have been so busy with work I haven’t had time to even keep up with Fantasy Fly orders. But he’s going to assist me in YouTube tutorial videos, DVDs, and other videos I want to do. After we do a rope-dub intro video, we’ll do some fundamental tying tutorials, and I have a list of a dozen fundamentals that I will post videos on, one of them being innovative ways of using Whiting hackles. I’m also going to do a video of my old pool trick shots from 30 years ago. Should be fun. DonO From: Chuck Alexander Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:16 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: blockquote My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg blockquote On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than
Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
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Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
Chuck, Seems like you came up with the correct decision to nix the rotary hackle pliers. I have a set and never use them. I also have an old squeeze-spring type with rubber pads, and I’ll use them before the rotary. The rubber pads on the old pliers are the key as they don’t allow the pliers to put a break-bend in the hackle stem, just a ‘soft’ bend at most. The rotary is hard metal and if you put any angle on the hackle while pulling you break the hackle with the crack in the stem that it creates. The old hackle pliers is a spring loop and you can put your finger in the bend and sort of ‘rotary’ the hackle. Secondly, the ‘old’ hackle pliers came in handy with the old short hackles, which is all we had for decades- sometimes took two hackles to tie a fly. With the advent of Hoffman’s, and then Whiting genetics, the hackles are so long that it’s easy to hang on to the hackle tip with your fingers while winding. I’ve just struck up a deal with a local friend here in Nampa to be my videographer and editor. I have been so busy with work I haven’t had time to even keep up with Fantasy Fly orders. But he’s going to assist me in YouTube tutorial videos, DVDs, and other videos I want to do. After we do a rope-dub intro video, we’ll do some fundamental tying tutorials, and I have a list of a dozen fundamentals that I will post videos on, one of them being innovative ways of using Whiting hackles. I’m also going to do a video of my old pool trick shots from 30 years ago. Should be fun. DonO From: Chuck Alexander Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:16 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing Neville (Nev) Gosling A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and
