[gentoo-dev] retiring

2015-01-28 Thread Chris Brannon
Hi all, I've been here for a couple years now, and I've lost interest to the point that I'm not doing a very good job of keeping my own system up to date, much less maintaining ebuilds. That isn't fair to anyone at all. It's time for me to move on. Gentoo is a great distro. I've met plenty of aw

[gentoo-dev] Retiring

2010-06-07 Thread Maurice van der Pot
Hi guys, Since I have not been active for a long time and I have no motivation at the moment to spend more time on Gentoo, I'll be retiring as a Gentoo dev. This is just for personal reasons; it's not because of Gentoo. There are only a few packages I was maintaining, so if anyone would like to t

Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Olivier Huber said: > Hi, > > 2009/5/4 Thomas Sachau > > >[snip] > > For those, who can work with IRC and are interested in working with > > ebuilds, there is already an option: > > > > Join #gentoo-dev-help or even better #gentoo-sunrise and read the > > documentation from the topic. The Sunrise

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-06 Thread Markos Chandras
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 21:40:51 Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2009.05.06 19:32, Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 01:45 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > > > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 23:45:14 AllenJB wrote: > > > > [..snip..] > > > > > I am sure there are some developers which can offer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Faraday Weller
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 19:40 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: [..snip..] > > [snip] > > The only issue I have with the idea is that projects with dead > > members > > and slacking leaders are unlikely to perform such a task, so you'll > > never get any updates from them, so devs will be demotivated to wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-06 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.06 19:32, Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 01:45 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 23:45:14 AllenJB wrote: > [..snip..] > > I am sure there are some developers which can offer a great amount > of tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Faraday Weller
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 01:45 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 23:45:14 AllenJB wrote: [..snip..] > I am sure there are some developers which can offer a great amount of time to > help/revibe slacking or dead projects ( e.g. userrel, newsletters etc ). The > thing is that lead

Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-06 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mardi 05 mai 2009 à 01:59 +0200, Olivier Huber a écrit : > Hi, > [...] > , I propose to add a bug-with-patch alias or > something like that. > > Cheers, > You mean something like the "Inclusion" keyword in bugzilla ? Or maybe a separate keyword that would indicate unreviewed patches. It's sad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 23:45:14 AllenJB wrote: > George Prowse wrote: > > Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Thanks, > >> welp > > > > Sad to hear it mate. > > > > As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you > > will be missed. > > > > I am quite surprised

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread AllenJB
George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of things because i've got the distinct impression fro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Sergio D . Rodríguez Inclan
> > There is already such a place [1] but I think not so much people knows > about it. > > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/ > > Mounir > > None of the problems mentioned here are present on that page, the information that could be useful is: how many developers are active, w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 20:03:58 Mounir Lamouri wrote: > Markos Chandras wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 19:26:23 Sergio D. Rodríguez Inclan wrote: > >> Could be a good idea publish a status of each Gentoo project and see > >> what is needed, so the users/devs can offer some help. > > > > [snip] >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 19:52:34 George Prowse wrote: > Is all this "help needed" stuff that ordinary users can help out with? > If so dont people go and ask for help in the forums? I assume that this recruitment process does not address to every single gentoo user but to those who actually have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Markos Chandras wrote: > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 19:26:23 Sergio D. Rodríguez Inclan wrote: > >> Could be a good idea publish a status of each Gentoo project and see what >> is needed, so the users/devs can offer some help. >> > [snip] > > Some one could say "Post it on gentoo.org homepage".

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread George Prowse
Markos Chandras wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 19:26:00 Thomas Anderson wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:43PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 16:50:47 Richard Freeman wrote: Arch teams seem to be generally doing a good job keeping up with STABLEREQs on the major archs -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Robert Bridge
Markos Chandras wrote: Some one could say "Post it on gentoo.org homepage". I wonder if users ever visit that page to read gentoo news :\ I can safely say that some never do... RobbieAB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 19:26:23 Sergio D. Rodríguez Inclan wrote: > Could be a good idea publish a status of each Gentoo project and see what > is needed, so the users/devs can offer some help. Publish where? Blogs? mailing list? Forums? we dont have a centralized way to inform users about such is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 19:26:00 Thomas Anderson wrote: > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:43PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 16:50:47 Richard Freeman wrote: > > > Arch > > > teams seem to be generally doing a good job keeping up with STABLEREQs > > > on the major archs - if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Sergio D . Rodríguez Inclan
Could be a good idea publish a status of each Gentoo project and see what is needed, so the users/devs can offer some help. -- Sergio D. Rodríguez Inclan - http://srinclan.wordpress.com Linux User #446728 -->

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:43PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 16:50:47 Richard Freeman wrote: > > Arch > > teams seem to be generally doing a good job keeping up with STABLEREQs > > on the major archs - if you use a minor arch that isn't as well > > supported I'm sure we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 05 May 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: > Arch teams, according to their project pages, are in a good shape. Major > arches have enough people ( assuming that the project pages are up2date ) If I keel over and armin76 is stuck in work/'versity, the alpha dev count is 0. Not exactly good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 16:50:47 Richard Freeman wrote: > Markos Chandras wrote: > > Even a "volunteer-driven" organization needs some "standard" rules in > > order to survive. From time to time this "volunteer" moto is what some > > people consider as "anarchy" > > As far as survival goes - I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Richard Freeman
Markos Chandras wrote: Even a "volunteer-driven" organization needs some "standard" rules in order to survive. From time to time this "volunteer" moto is what some people consider as "anarchy" As far as survival goes - I think the rumors of Gentoo's death are greatly exaggerated. I certain

Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-04 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Olivier Huber wrote: [snip] > dirtyepic made a funny entry on his blog [1] and darkside tried also > to do something [2], but it seems to me that this alias is a black [snip] You forgot the references :) Don't postpone putting them till the end! You *will* forget

Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-04 Thread Olivier Huber
Hi, 2009/5/4 Thomas Sachau >[snip] > For those, who can work with IRC and are interested in working with ebuilds, > there is already an option: > > Join #gentoo-dev-help or even better #gentoo-sunrise and read the > documentation from the topic. The > Sunrise Overlay (with the #gentoo-sunrise I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 15:35 +0300 schrieb Markos Chandras: > On Monday 04 May 2009 14:50:56 Ferris McCormick wrote: > > On Mon, 4 May 2009 04:34:20 -0400 > [..] > > I've been a developer a bit over 5 years. We know the problems and are > > working to fix them. > > > I am sure that you know th

Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mario Fetka schrieb: > On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: >> Peter Faraday Weller wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Thanks, >>> welp >> Sad to hear it mate. >> >> As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you >> will be missed. >> >> I am quite surprised about wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 20:06:12 George Prowse wrote: > Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > > Hi > > > > Thanks, > > welp > > Sad to hear it mate. > > As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you > will be missed. > > I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 21:24:11 Richard Freeman wrote: > Markos Chandras wrote: > > I am sure that you know them. But those problems are the reasons why more > > and more developers are demotivated and leaving Gentoo. 'Fixing' those > > problems should be a N1 priority on every gentoo council meetin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Richard Freeman
Markos Chandras wrote: I am sure that you know them. But those problems are the reasons why more and more developers are demotivated and leaving Gentoo. 'Fixing' those problems should be a N1 priority on every gentoo council meeting until they are gone. There is absolutely no point in trying to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Mario Fetka
On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: > Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > > Hi > > > > Thanks, > > welp > > Sad to hear it mate. > > As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you > will be missed. > > I am quite surprised about what you said about the state o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Mario Fetka
On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: > Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > > Hi > > > > Thanks, > > welp > > Sad to hear it mate. > > As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you > will be missed. > > I am quite surprised about what you said about the state o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread George Prowse
Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of things because i've got the distinct impression from others that Gentoo h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 4 May 2009 19:36:04 +0300 Markos Chandras wrote: > > Or pushing more and more EAPI's will? > > No... As I said before Gentoo is quite understaffed. First we need > people. Then we can concentrate on features :) As it happens, a lot of the features that go into EAPIs are designed to help w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 18:54:09 Vlastimil Babka wrote: > Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > > On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of > > management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more > > likely, already is) an anarchic organisation, where it's becoming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Peter Faraday Weller wrote: On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more likely, already is) an anarchic organisation, where it's becoming nigh-on impossible to keep track of things. I see a number of i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 14:50:56 Ferris McCormick wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2009 04:34:20 -0400 [..] > I've been a developer a bit over 5 years. We know the problems and are > working to fix them. > I am sure that you know them. But those problems are the reasons why more and more developers are demot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 04:34:20 -0400 Markos Chandras wrote: > On Monday 04 May 2009 00:26:13 Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've enjoyed my time with Gentoo, mostly... But these days I've just got > > too demotivated to work on it. I might have stayed if Ken69267 posted me > > some Life

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Peter Faraday Weller
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 11:34 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Monday 04 May 2009 00:26:13 Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've enjoyed my time with Gentoo, mostly... But these days I've just got > > too demotivated to work on it. I might have stayed if Ken69267 posted me > > some Lifes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 00:26:13 Peter Faraday Weller wrote: > Hi, > > I've enjoyed my time with Gentoo, mostly... But these days I've just got > too demotivated to work on it. I might have stayed if Ken69267 posted me > some Lifesavers, but he didn't. :( > > On a more serious note, the problem seems

[gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-03 Thread Peter Faraday Weller
Hi, I've enjoyed my time with Gentoo, mostly... But these days I've just got too demotivated to work on it. I might have stayed if Ken69267 posted me some Lifesavers, but he didn't. :( On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of management in the required places, Gentoo i

Re: [gentoo-dev] retiring + looking maintainers for sendmail, tenshi, scapy, ftester

2008-02-07 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Heya, Andrea Barisani wrote: > Hi folks, I'm retiring. Sorry to see you go - i'd like to especially thank you for your ldap+ssh +lpk effort! thanks! :) > I was maintaining the following packages: > > app-admin/tenshi (note: I'm upstream as well) I can take a look at tenshi if noone else is int

Re: [gentoo-dev] retiring + looking maintainers for sendmail, tenshi, scapy, ftester

2008-02-07 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Andrea Barisani wrote: > Hi folks, I'm retiring. Sorry to hear that. > I was maintaining the following packages: > > app-admin/tenshi (note: I'm upstream as well) > mail-mta/sendmail > net-analyzer/scapy > net-analyzer/ftester (note: I'm upstream as well) sys-apps/

Re: [gentoo-dev] retiring + looking maintainers for sendmail, tenshi, scapy, ftester

2008-02-06 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to see you leave, I can maintain scapy if no one else wants to? Mike 5:) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHqglzu7rWomwgFXoRAismAJ4+4D50v0k6VSRfEfRV4mMiBP9QHACeLHJB 1IYpKEqzWFsdiFYXG7IJyhc=

[gentoo-dev] retiring + looking maintainers for sendmail, tenshi, scapy, ftester

2008-02-06 Thread Andrea Barisani
Hi folks, I'm retiring. I was maintaining the following packages: app-admin/tenshi (note: I'm upstream as well) mail-mta/sendmail net-analyzer/scapy net-analyzer/ftester (note: I'm upstream as well) So those needs new maintainership. Cheers -- Andrea Barisani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2008-02-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:18 Mon 04 Feb , Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > I'm finally giving in to reality and retiring as a Gentoo Dev. I've > been effectively inactive since March last year and lack of time > means that isn't going to change any time soon. I'll still be using > Gentoo of course, so I'll still stick my

[gentoo-dev] Retiring

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
Hi all I'm finally giving in to reality and retiring as a Gentoo Dev. I've been effectively inactive since March last year and lack of time means that isn't going to change any time soon. I'll still be using Gentoo of course, so I'll still stick my nose in on bugzilla now and again :) There's