On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 15:33:03 -0500, Shane Hathaway
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But like I told ChrisW, I think BerkeleyStorage will fill the need that
>PartitionedFileStorage was only partitially addressing.
FileStorage has fewer license compatability issues. Im not yet sure
about the extent of
Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
> Python's sort() lets you sort based on not only strings but also tuples,
> lists, and numbers, which is a very useful feature. Thus sort() is
> intended to be a highly generalized method. It is useful but not ideal
> for sorting text strings. What you *really* want is
Dieter Maurer wrote:
>
> Chris Withers writes:
> > Dieter Maurer wrote:
> > > Andy McKay writes:
> > > > what does anyone else think
> > >
> > > I would not like it.
> >
> > Why not? ;-)
> I would not like to see this sort order in the management
> screens, because I use capitali
Toby Dickenson wrote:
>
> >(reasons of course would be helpful, particularly if you want it to stay
> >like it is ;-)
>
> I noticed the smiley, so Im not sure how serious the suggestion is.
It was serious, the smiley was 'cos I couldn't understand why anyone
would want it to stay like it is :-)
Chris Withers writes:
> However, if anyone does know what constitutes a 'seperate object' in
> ZODB terms, it be really useful to know.
> I'm guessing a class which inherits from Persistent? Dictionaries don't,
> 'cos they're python builtins, which I'm pretty certain was the problem
> in my c
> Dieter Maurer wrote:
> >
> > Chris Withers writes:
> > > Dieter Maurer wrote:
> > > > Andy McKay writes:
> > > > > what does anyone else think
> > > >
> > > > I would not like it.
> > >
> > > Why not? ;-)
> > I would not like to see this sort order in the management
> > screens,
Toby Dickenson wrote:
>
> In particular, there seems to be merit in an acquisition that searches
> only the containment heirarchy.
...I liked the context one that was discussed last year and which Evan
provides some external methods to explement.
cheers,
Chris
Jim Fulton wrote:
>
> I'm inclined to think that in some future version of Zope, we
> should switch to making explicit acquisition the norm.
Well, implicit is good when you're starting, but can cause fun with
security later.
Hmmm, I guess I like the way it is but my wishlist (damn, Christmas ju
Hi guys,
This is my first entry to this mailing list and please forgive me
if u feel this a stupid problem to begin with.(Today happens to be my
first day on ZServer)
My Zserver has started at 8080 but the manage.dtml is not
accessible from the browser either as localhost or with the host name
Heinz-Josef Claes writes:
> dynamic permissions
It is not Zope's normal behaviour.
Of cause, you could plug in a new UserFolder that
implements the features you require (someone else
recommended "LoginManager").
On the other hand, Zope is flexible enough to let you
approximate the des
See below (nothing earth shattering tho) ;)
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Shane Hathaway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] case insensitive sorts
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
> > Andrew
> > David
> > Wayne
> > bart
> > sophie
> >
> > is better than sorting:
> >
> > Andrew
> > bart
> > David
> > sophie
> > Wayne
>
> That's only because you use NT (ach spit). ;)
>
Thats not actually true.
It is how python behaves on WinNt, Win9X, Linux, etc
(I have tested this)
-And
http://127.0.0.1:8080/
if that works then check out your /etc/hosts file or equiv
On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> This is my first entry to this mailing list and please forgive me
> if u feel this a stupid problem to begin with.(Today happens to be my
> first day
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
>
> DataSkins stored in Racks do not participate in the Zope ownership
> mechanism, nor the creation of the 'Owner' role. This is because they are
> not being stored via the normal ObjectManager protocols.
Hurm... to what extent do they participate in Zope's Security
Mec
Ty Sarna wrote:
>
> AppTabs[4]
>
> [4] Unreleased product, still in some flux. It mainly provides fancier,
> more flexible version of Zope's management tabs, suitable for use in an
> application (that is, suitable for exposing to users, not just
> developers). It also has some local roles hooks
Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
> FWIW, I agree that adding access method into the security
> mix would add a great deal of complexity. It may turn out
> to be necessary in the future, but I'm not yet convinced
> of that.
Well, it's come up quite a few tiems, would it really be that bad? :-S
cheers,
Chri
Steve Alexander wrote:
>
> On a related issue, what about other dtml snippets that people generally
> don't want as web accessible, such as standard_html_header ?
>
> On my pie-in-the-sky zope wishlist:
I did have a proposal for just this on dev.zope.org, but I see someone
has deleted it :-(
Dieter Maurer wrote:
>
>There are objects, that should be usable by Anonymous
>inside DTML but should not be viewable over the
>web (as they will only confuse).
>All page components (such as "standard_html_header/footer")
>fall into this category.
Totally agree... this has bu
Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> I guess it's just a matter of only reinventing the wheels
> you have to, and writing less code as a result.
I'm pretty sure Squishdot is re-inventing no wheels ;-)
> http://www.zope.org/Members/tseaver/inherit_ZCatalog
> http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/CatalogAwa
Andy Dawkins wrote:
>
> > Dieter Maurer wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris Withers writes:
> > > > Dieter Maurer wrote:
> > > > > Andy McKay writes:
> > > > > > what does anyone else think
> > > > >
> > > > > I would not like it.
> > > >
> > > > Why not? ;-)
> > > I would not like to see t
> Your analogies imply that this behavior is a bug or an unintended flaw
> in the design. I would argue that it is intentional. Unix file systems
> work the same way. Try doing an "ls" with mixed case files and you'll
> see what I mean.
>
It isn't a flaw. It seems as though it was overlooked.
Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> If you are writing your own cataloging and uncataloging
> code, then I think that it could be.
G
The cataloguing code in Squishdot amounts to about 4 lines, all of which
are calls to standard ZCatalog interface methods as described in:
http://www.zope.org/Me
Andy Dawkins wrote:
>
> > Your analogies imply that this behavior is a bug or an unintended flaw
> > in the design. I would argue that it is intentional. Unix file systems
> > work the same way. Try doing an "ls" with mixed case files and you'll
> > see what I mean.
> >
>
> It isn't a flaw. It
My main point is that the user who visits my site does not care about
python, Unix, NT or any wierd metaphors about kettles.
They want information fast and most users expect case insensitive sorts. Its
simpler and easy. I think having the ignore_case option for a -tree and -in
helps Zope by incre
Andy McKay wrote:
>
> They want information fast and most users expect case insensitive sorts. Its
> simpler and easy. I think having the ignore_case option for a -tree and -in
> helps Zope by increasing the ease of development and friendliness to the
> user.
And my point was that this is so uni
At 11:43 AM 1/3/01 +, Chris Withers wrote:
>"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
>>
>> DataSkins stored in Racks do not participate in the Zope ownership
>> mechanism, nor the creation of the 'Owner' role. This is because they are
>> not being stored via the normal ObjectManager protocols.
>
>Hurm... to
> I recently read RFC 2396 which defines the generic URI syntax
> and especially the URL syntax.
> I recognized, that
>
> * Zope forbids many characters in ids (with the error message
>"not allowed in URLs"), that are legal characters
>in URL path segments:
>
> generally allowed in
Hmm im actually not so sure on that. Currently you can do a sort either way,
if you fix it so its only case sensitive we'll end up like Visual Basic :)
Fixing python is a question for the python list and I'd be scared to ask it
there...
--
Andy McKay, Developer.
ActiveState.
- Original
Hi,
Once again I'm back at trying to solve this problem, hopefully with a
little more knowledge this time ;-)
What I'd like:
'Zope' objects of type 'X', which can have multiple parents and can
contain other objects of type 'X', where storage isn't necessarily tied
to the ZODB but where the objec
Andy McKay wrote:
>
> Hmm im actually not so sure on that. Currently you can do a sort either way,
> if you fix it so its only case sensitive we'll end up like Visual Basic :)
Actually, I'd like to see it 'fixed' so it's only case insensitive:
Alan
betty
Carl
Wilbur
> Fixing python is a questi
Hi Chris,
I have folder test1 at the root with a DTML Method: index_html that says:
I am in the test1 folder.
in test1 I have folder test2 with a DTML Method: index_html that says:
I am in the test2 folder.
When I view /test1/test2/test1
I get:
http://myhost:8080/test1/test2/t
I think Chris' design (as I understand it) is fine. CatalogAware is useful
sometimes. Sometimes it's just overhead.
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:07
Hi, all.
I might have misunderstood the Racks place in ZPatterns, but anyway...
To me, this sounds like a really, really cool idea. If we passed the
User object along to the Racks (which is what it does now?), and let
the Rack (GPG/PGP Rack, that is) have access to either an external or
interna
Hi Chris,
Random thoughts follow. ;-)
I think that if you make your DataSkins folderish it will be hard
to make the storage anything other than ZODB. However, Steve
Alexander posted a neat trick the other day where __bobo_traverse__ is
supplied by an attribute provider. You could use this t
Can
anyone tell me how to do a "from Products.ZPatterns import anything" when using
INSTANCE_HOME?
Do I have to add the INSTANCE_HOME path to
sys.path?
Thanks
Chris Withers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Once again I'm back at trying to solve this problem, hopefully with a
> little more knowledge this time ;-)
>
> What I'd like:
> 'Zope' objects of type 'X', which can have multiple parents and can
> contain other objects of type 'X', where storage isn't necessaril
At 05:15 PM 1/3/01 +, Chris Withers wrote:
>
>What I'd like:
>'Zope' objects of type 'X', which can have multiple parents and can
>contain other objects of type 'X', where storage isn't necessarily tied
>to the ZODB but where the objects have a normal properties page (in
>terms of use, again,
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Jim Fulton wrote:
> >
> > - Policies to control whether multiple revisions are stored
> > or whether revisions are removed by packing on a object-by-object
> > or transaction-by-transaction basis.
>
> > You could keep significant historical revisions for im
From: BS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Can anyone tell me how to do a "from Products.ZPatterns import anything"
> when using INSTANCE_HOME?
> Do I have to add the INSTANCE_HOME path to sys.path?
As long as Python has already imported Zope (i.e. you're in another Product)
you don't need to do anything spe
Has anyone tried to
use the "Freeze" utility on Zope?
How about Gordon
McMillian's "Install" application to make a self-contained Python-Zope
executable for Win32?
My goal is to create
a very easy install of Zope that consists of one or two files. For some of my
clients this seems less i
Hi!
Actually should answer to these posts... ;-)
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:11:37PM -0500, Steve Spicklemire wrote:
>
> Hi Christian,
>
> Well, nobody else answered that I saw... so I'll take a crack
> at your questions
>
> > "CS" == Christian Scholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
Hi Steve!
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:45:46PM +, Steve Alexander wrote:
> Steve Spicklemire wrote:
>
> >
> > CS> 2. Is it planned to provide something like a virtual folder
> > CS> which acts like a normal object manager but is controlled via
> > CS> ZPatterns (so actually someth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> My Zserver has started at 8080 but the manage.dtml is not
> accessible from the browser either as localhost or with the host name.
> Please suggest me an answer the problem ASAP.
You are using:
http://localhost:8080/manage
do you?
You must not use "manage.dtm
Chris Withers writes:
> Andrew
> bart
> David
> sophie
> Wayne
Why in hell do you switch caseness for similar objects?
If you apply some naming conventions, such as
"objects start with a Capital letter, verb with a lowercase letter",
you may find Python's sorting order usefull.
Dieter
__
Chris Withers writes:
> Hmmm, I guess I like the way it is but my wishlist (damn, Christmas just
> gone ;-) would be:
>
> for Acquisiton.Implicit, be able to do something like:
>
> class MyClass (Acquisition.Implicit):
>
> acquisition = ClassAcquisitionInfo()
>
> acquisitio
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > If you are writing your own cataloging and uncataloging
> > code, then I think that it could be.
>
> G
>
> The cataloguing code in Squishdot amounts to about 4 lines, all of which
> are calls to standard ZCatalog interface method
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:09:02 -0500, "BS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>My goal is to create a very easy install of Zope that consists of one or two
>files. For some of my clients this seems less intimidating on their machines
>(they would rather not see the "source code", just an executable).
On wi
Michael Bernstein wrote:
>
> Ah! That would be a very simple and elegant way of
> eliminating 'add-dropdown-box pollution', among other
> advantages.
>
> An excellent proposal, indeed.
So, how to go about getting it implemented?
cheers,
Chris
___
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Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
> But like I told ChrisW, I think BerkeleyStorage will fill the need that
> PartitionedFileStorage was only partitially addressing.
Is BerkleyStorage going to be as easy to set up and use?
I seem to remember Jim F making some comments to the contrary a while
back...
What
On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:50:49 +, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>However, if anyone does know what constitutes a 'seperate object' in
>ZODB terms, it be really useful to know.
>I'm guessing a class which inherits from Persistent? Dictionaries don't,
>'cos they're python builtins, wh
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> Michael Bernstein wrote:
> >
> > I guess it's just a matter of only reinventing the wheels
> > you have to, and writing less code as a result.
>
> I'm pretty sure Squishdot is re-inventing no wheels ;-)
If you are writing your own cataloging and uncataloging
code, then
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