Re: [ZWeb] svn server broken

2008-11-10 Thread Andrew Sawyers
If you blocked it at the load balancer or router, that would help in their regard until the issue is fixed Andrew On 11/10/08 2:21 PM, "Jim Fulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 10, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Christian Theune wrote: > >> On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 02:40 -0500, David Lawson wrot

Re: [ZWeb] Instance problems

2008-10-01 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Autolance was used to kill (restart) instances which exceeded a certain size No clue how it's setup for the zope.org setup though. Are there memory issues? Did you restart the hung instances? Andrew On 10/1/08 11:57 AM, "David Lawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We got a page on cache

Re: [ZWeb] wiki.zope.org down

2007-07-30 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I got it restarted. Andrew Michael Haubenwallner wrote: hi, just realized, that wiki.zope.org is not responding. a quick check shows that the server is up and running but attempts to connect to port 80 are refused: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet zope-org.hosting.amaze.nl 80 Trying

Re: [ZWeb] Re: zope.org - serious caching issues

2007-05-21 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 16:42 -0400, David Lawson wrote: > > It has, but mostly only in layout and some streamlining of the > configuration. The basic rules you established are still in place, > since we assumed you had good reasons for them. I haven't been > following this discussion terri

Re: [ZWeb] Re: zope.org - serious caching issues

2007-05-21 Thread Andrew Sawyers
x27;re getting is coming from the app server. Yup. > > I'm getting a hit from the parent. Also note that both hits have me > results for which the most recent entry is from March 29. If I bust > the cache with a query string, the most recent entry is for May 15. > >

Re: [ZWeb] wiki.zope.org is still unreachable

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I had to start the wiki instance by hand - as well as the foundation instance. If it's there, it's not working properly. I haven't checked. Andrew On 5/10/07 7:06 PM, "Simon Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wiki.zope.org's zope server, at least, should have those startup scripts > alread

Re: [ZWeb] wiki.zope.org is still unreachable

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sawyers
restart out software. Andrew On 5/10/07 5:17 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> The last word I got was last night, there was a power supply failure at >> Amaze's data center. I would presume this would be a power supp

Re: [ZWeb] wiki.zope.org is still unreachable

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sawyers
The last word I got was last night, there was a power supply failure at Amaze's data center. I would presume this would be a power supply failure in the server which hosts these sites. No further word. I personally don't have contact with Amaze, not any idea how to contact them. Andrew On 5/1

Re: [ZWeb] wiki.zope.org is still unreachable

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
The foundation server isn't running better though.so I guess that's somewhat relative. This is the second time it's jump completely dead - we can't access the server at all. While it might be awesome to have Amaze monitoring things for sure, we also need to be asking why it's crashing dead so

Re: [ZWeb] cvs.zope.org

2007-03-13 Thread Andrew Sawyers
You likely want to send this to more lists then this one - this one is mainly for zope.org the user facing site. The various zope* dev lists are more appropriate perhaps? Andrew Sawyers On 3/13/07 7:23 AM, "Mark W. Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I sent a note last

Re: [ZWeb] Fwd: [ZF] foundation site confusion

2006-11-13 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Looks like it's working right herebut the redirect isn't going to the beta pages. Andrew On 11/13/06 3:24 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob Page wrote: >> Chris - did zoneedit get the zopefoundation info? I don't think it's >> answering. > > They did, but zoneedit have

Re: [ZWeb] zope.org frontpage modifications

2006-10-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Any reason why we don't want to just do a permanent redirect from old wikis to new wikis? Andrew On 10/26/06 4:18 AM, "Michael Haubenwallner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for the records, a few changes have been made recently: > > zope.org frontpage > - left column >replaced 'Zope Exits' w

[ZWeb] Possible Cache Problem?

2006-10-24 Thread Andrew Sawyers
The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request again. Your cache administrator is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:25:52 GMT by parent-ng1.zmh.zope.net (squid/2.5.STABLE12) Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Sawyers
All kinds of weird behavior with that under Firefox on my Mac. Paste me the entire class definition for .columntwo Andrew On 10/16/06 2:51 PM, "Darryl Cousins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 15:25 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> I don

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I don't see a rightcolumn class in Foundation stuffmaybe missing the obvious though. A On 10/16/06 6:47 AM, "Tom Von Lahndorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That should do it. For the Foundation website though it should be on > the .rightcolumn class. > > > On Oct 16, 2006, at 3:36 AM,

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Meaning entire pages including the doctype, body and head tags > were pasted within the site wrapper. These secondary doctype body and > head tags should be removed. > > On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > >> On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, "Michael Bernstein" &

Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 10/16/06 9:35 AM, "Lennart Regebro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/16/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You're definitely right on that, I just wanted to bring it up so we >> don't have a lot of people starting to complain *after* the redesign >> work for other microsites

Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 10/16/06 9:32 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 16 Oct 2006, at 09:26, Lennart Regebro wrote: > >> On 10/16/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hm... I thought we had not made any decision as to a _zope.o

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, "Michael Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> See: foundation.zope.org >> >> This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 >> working

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew Sawyers
so distant future we'll be on a zope solution, so this won't be an issue for the long haul. Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 10/14/06 3:00 AM, "Baiju M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/14/06, Darryl Cousins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is the full code up on svn.zope.org? It doesn't appear to be at >> http://svn.zope.org/web/zf/trunk/. I have recently acquired commit >> privileges and could attend to the menu an

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 10/14/06 1:36 AM, "Darryl Cousins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And docutils needs to be updated on the > server (cheers Baiju and Andreas) and that there is a typo (cheers > Carlos). > > Is the full code up on svn.zope.org? It doesn't appear to be at > http://svn.zope.org/web/zf/trunk/. I h

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew Sawyers
'output_encoding': 'utf8', 'initial_header_level': 3 } I would check these changes in, but the account we're using does not have write access. I will get this dealt with tomorrow. Andrew On 10/13/06 12:24 AM, "Baiju M" <[E

Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew Sawyers
The result of that in _handler.py is: /usr/local/python/2.4.3/lib/python2.4/site-packages/docutils/__init__.pyc0.5 snapshot 2006-10-13, r4767 This is the same, if I run /usr/local/bin/python2.4 and import docutils and print out the version and version_details. What version should we have installe

Re: [ZWeb] Zone Edit nameserver Offerings FYI

2006-10-13 Thread Andrew Sawyers
$10.95 a year, for ea. additional one you want Andrew On 10/13/06 12:09 PM, "Christian Theune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what's the price tag on the deal? > > Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> Zone Edit offers DNS services on different continents for a

Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?

2006-10-13 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Um, ok Jens, if you SAY so. A On 10/13/06 9:39 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 13 Oct 2006, at 08:34, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > >> Not exactly. An Apache directive fubar

[ZWeb] Zone Edit nameserver Offerings FYI

2006-10-13 Thread Andrew Sawyers
ffer up to 8 managed DNS networks in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia. For your most important domains, use ZoneEdit's backup DNS. Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?

2006-10-13 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Not exactly. An Apache directive fubar doesn't cause spam making it through mailman. Andrew On 10/13/06 4:15 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yep :-) > > Chris > > Lennart Regebro wrote: >> Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope >> mailing lists? >>

[ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-12 Thread Andrew Sawyers
so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] DNS still fishy?

2006-10-12 Thread Andrew Sawyers
ave it alone. I've been working through this fuster cluck for many hours now - thanks to not having enough access to get things done and running on an antiquated system: RH 9.0 Woo hoo! Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?

2006-10-12 Thread Andrew Sawyers
'We' don't have access to mess with those configs - so that has to go through ZC. Andrew On 10/12/06 1:03 PM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Going to lists.zope.org and mail.zope.org used to bring up the > Mailman pages for the

Re: [ZWeb] DNS still fishy?

2006-10-12 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Can we have only zoneedit as the registered nameservers? 3 out of the 5 listed name servers at the registrar are wrong. We need this fixed ASAP. Andrew ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [ZWeb] DNS still fishy?

2006-10-12 Thread Andrew Sawyers
FYI, there's a problem with your host Justizin: > server ns1.zoneedit.com Default server: ns1.zoneedit.com Address: 207.234.248.200#53 > cvs.zope.org Server: ns1.zoneedit.com Address:207.234.248.200#53 Name: cvs.zope.org Address: 63.240.213.173 > server ns.qutang.net Default ser

Re: [ZWeb] Fwd: zope.org DNS screwed up

2006-10-10 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Can we get the access info spread to a larger group please. I believe jens and myself are good candidates. Andrew On 10/10/06 12:00 PM, "Justizin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whups. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Justin Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Oct 10, 2006 10:58

Re: [ZWeb] Re: Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> On 10/9/06 5:00 PM, "Lennart Regebro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On 10/9/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> INSHO it has been known for quite sometime, but people are s

Re: [ZWeb] Re: Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 10/9/06 5:00 PM, "Lennart Regebro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/9/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> INSHO it has been known for quite sometime, but people are still trying to >> make progress in the only environment we can. > >

[ZWeb] Re: apache on zope.org

2006-10-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
tem. Later on we can look towards other solutions and other >>> servers, but right now that's the goal. >> >> To that end, I've CC'ed in Andrew Sawyers who is likely to have better >> access than me to the cvs.zope.org box which at least has a running &

Re: [ZWeb] Re: Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 10/9/06 4:47 PM, "Jim Fulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the best thing to do at this point is to declare the current > zope.org implementation a failure and move on. INSHO it has been known for quite sometime, but people are still trying to make progress in the only environment

Re: [ZWeb] Re: Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
How much disk space is available on the production boxes? We could copy and setup instances based on existing install changing necessary config and simply testing the product update - that would be the quickest route IMNSHO. Looks like there's enough room on the storage serverI just can't get

Re: [ZWeb] making planet.zope.org be planet.zope.org

2006-10-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I'm talking to Rob right now in IM - and he's checking into it, as I'm trying to assist with the Apache setup to get the foundation site up. Andrew On 10/9/06 11:58 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 9 Oct 2006, at 09:59,

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/27/06 12:10 PM, "Justizin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/27/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Justizin wrote: >> > > When I left, I believe NS and NS2 were both load balanced clusters of > three large machines, which probably sit behind PrevenTier, a patented > DoS-ave

Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/27/06 11:57 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Justizin wrote: >> Perhaps I am making a wild and sweeping assumption here, but I think >> that Chris is talking about the DNS servers which are controlled by >> software the team I worked on at Rackspace was responsible for, and

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Yeah, it does - but serving up static files isn't going to make it strain anymore then it does A On 9/27/06 3:54 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martijn Faassen wrote: >> Ah, I thought we had no Apache, but if there's an Apache, then yes, that >> would be a good place to st

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we* volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have their domains setup). A On 9/27/06 3:52 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
If ya'll think 2's enough and your handling it; no worries. If we want another, I can do it also. Cheers, A On 9/26/06 8:00 PM, "Justizin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay. > > ZoneEdit's import is broken, but zope.org zone is imported into their > database. > > Who wants to run a slave? >

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have a bunch of secondaries.I'm sure there's lots of us who could do secondary dns for this. I've used zoneedit for several years now - flawlessly. First 5 domains are free - so that shouldn't be a problem. Andrew On 9/26/06 10

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
> > Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be > hooked up as a secondary. > > jens > > As do I . Andrew ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/26/06 11:10 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:02, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > >> We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have >>

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
We just need to resurface the svn location of the doc and update if necessary. A On 9/25/06 11:18 AM, "Martijn Faassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martijn Faassen wrote: >> Andrew Sawyers wrote: >>> This is all documented in subversion IIRC. Jim will know.

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/25/06 10:04 AM, "Lennart Regebro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/25/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There's a lot more to it then LDAP. LDAP doesn't make it hard > > For me it does. That's why I said "somebody

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
There's a lot more to it then LDAP. LDAP doesn't make it hard, it just makes it harder. The goal (or lack thereof) will make it hard or trivial. Regardless, I didn't say rebuilding everything from scratch and sorting out the 'mess'. I said if it's just resetting up on a different group of server

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Read what I wrote. :) A On 9/25/06 8:38 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 25 Sep 2006, at 14:31, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > >> If it is simply taking what's running and set it

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
If it is simply taking what's running and set it up on a new set of servers, it would be fairly trivial. There's 1 or 2 zeo client servers. There's a storage server. There's cvs/svn and mail and ldap lives some where in that mix. :) That's about it. Andrew On 9/25/06 7:59 AM, "Martijn Faas

Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
This is all documented in subversion IIRC. Jim will know. Andrew On 9/25/06 6:38 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 25 Sep 2006, at 12:05, Martijn Faassen wrote: >>> Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zope

Re: [ZWeb] volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-22 Thread Andrew Sawyers
What's up with zopefoundation.org - especially since it's changed since I looked at it yesterday? :P) A On 8/22/06 1:43 PM, "Martijn Faassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > It's nearing september, and I'd like to start some work on zope.org, in > particular www.zope.org/foundation

Re: [ZWeb] V3 Updated

2006-03-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 08:26 +0100, Chris Withers wrote: > Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: > >> Why should it be on zope.org? > > > > Um, because it's useful information about Zope, which is sort of what > > Zope.org is about? > > Well, I don't know if that _is_ what zope.org is about anymore. It's >

Re: [ZWeb] Update Multiple Records

2006-03-21 Thread Andrew Sawyers
April, You are going to want to use the zope list: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope This particular list is strictly about the website. Andrew Sawyers On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 08:51 -0800, April Lekin wrote: > Hi, > I have a web page that goes to a database and pulls out a bu

Re: [ZWeb] Version 3

2006-03-20 Thread Andrew Sawyers
> >--- > >I have bigger questions though. > > > >1. Does the page print well? Dunno, a print css would solve this easily. > > > >2. Is the site to represent -both- Zope2 and Zope3, or just Zope3? > >Wit mentions of Plone, CMF and Zope Products on the drop-down menus, > >it seems to be targeted a

Re: [ZWeb] Version 3

2006-03-20 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 16:09 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > Understood and ok with me. Its just that we never talked about that > solution before (i've always seen the modscape mockups as a drop-in > replacement for the current mode of zope.org operation). Forgot to reply all This th

Re: [ZWeb] Version 3

2006-03-20 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 21:25 -0600, Brad Allen wrote: > > http://www.modscape.com/zope/v3 > > The Zope News and Zope Products section do seem slightly drab. > Drab is ok for documention but news stories could use just a > little bit of zing. > The News and Products sections you see now are not g

Re: [ZWeb] Version 3

2006-03-20 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 08:45 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: > >> - What about the login + navbars ? > > > > Will add login as well. Not sure what you mean about "navbars"? The > > navigation is up top, the black bar. Maybe we don't have login on these pages; maybe u

Re: [ZWeb] version3

2006-03-07 Thread Andrew Sawyers
The content well (ZPowered Sites, News, and Products) are all going to go.We have someone working on some text for the homepage now. A On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 13:59 +, Chris Withers wrote: > Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: > > > > The latest and greatest. I'm working on the middle content well, bu

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 13:09 -0300, Sidnei da Silva wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 10:36:10AM -0500, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > | The only "serious" thing which I found daunting the last time I was > | trying to debug a problem with the "software" product was the HUGE &

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 06:30 -0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > Sidnei da Silva-2 wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 04:34:21AM -0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > | ...(it was based on Plone, sure, but it was badly mangled from > > | what I've been told to the point where the Plone community would n

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 12:26 -0300, Sidnei da Silva wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 06:30:29AM -0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: > | Not sure what this means ... were you involved in building the current site > | or do you know its architecture? As I've said, my comments are based on what > | I've been t

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 07:06 -0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > Andrew Sawyers wrote: > > > > > > In the future, zope.org (will) migrate easily. Before I left ZC, I went > > into the plone channel asking for assistance, and when it was learned > > the version o

Re: [ZWeb] no discussions about technology on this list right now

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 16:21 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On 3/6/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's currently not > > OK, super! So lets go. :-) > There is loads of content there already, I don't think we need more to > get started. It's already much better than what is a zo

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 10:31 -0300, Sidnei da Silva wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 04:34:21AM -0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: > | ...(it was based on Plone, sure, but it was badly mangled from > | what I've been told to the point where the Plone community would no longer > | be able to help maintain i

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 13:05 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > I understand Chris reluctance to use Plone, but I must say that of the > two scenarios: > > 1. Writing a new Product managements software from scratch. > and We don't require a 'product management' software "from scratch". Base Zope, CMF

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-06 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 02:06 -0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > Chris Withers wrote: > > > > Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> I have no way of judging whether that's a valid comparison, without > >> knowing how > >> much maintenance zope.org will see > > > > Assume zero, that's all it's ever received in th

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 3 Website

2006-03-03 Thread Andrew Sawyers
He noted he's aware of that and working on it. Talking to him yesterday, he thought he could have something done that we can start using by Monday. Andrew Sawyers On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 11:10 +, Chris Withers wrote: > Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: > > > > Version 2 is linked

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-02 Thread Andrew Sawyers
tive > *documentation-only* reviewers. Even atop that "awful" Plone software. :^) > > zope.org is dead. plone.org is quite alive. What's the difference in > these two? > > For what ever reason, zope.org gives off a distinct "you're not wanted >

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 2 web site

2006-03-01 Thread Andrew Sawyers
, newsletters, layout/design upgrades and more. Please participate in the existing drive, not start a new one. :) I'd love to see ya drop by. There's no secret that the current site needs fixing; lets pool the collective interest and get it finished up..... Andrew Sawyers On Fri, 2006-0

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 3 Website

2006-02-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
rganize things and give > > the site a more "marketable" look and feel... without losing > > functionality. I should have some new stuff posted this weekend. > > > > On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > > > >>> I am really keen

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 3 Website

2006-02-17 Thread Andrew Sawyers
oing on just on these basic > items. We should really only expand if these are completely up to date and we > have spare resource. > I can't agree more. That's been my main thrust for some time. I just got access to Phillip's SVN repo yesterday, so I was going to add

Re: [ZWeb] Zope 3 Website

2006-02-16 Thread Andrew Sawyers
anted to say 'thanks'. Andrew Sawyers On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:58 +1300, Peter Simmons wrote: > Hi All, > > I just subscribed to both these lists (forgive the cross post) so you > may have gotten further down the road on this one than I have seen. I > have been following a c

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
> Something like http://plone.org/products? Why not? If it fits the bill. > > > zope.org should not be a member login based site IMNSHO. > > Why not have a members.zope.org that is a community site, with wikis and > the lot, where the community can play their games, and a zope3.org and/or

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 00:05 +, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Hi Martijn, > > > I would say, let's not bite off more than we can chew. Getting a punch > web-site is not easy. The hard part is reducing the amount of content, not > creating it. I'd say focus on Zope 3 for now - it's what we want t

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:09 +0100, Max M wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: > > > If we cannot make it work in Zope 2 or 3, maybe we should use rails ;-) > I know Max is kidding; but to comment to Chris. One of the main problems to avoid is 'kruft' and bit-rot. zope.org suffers this to the point o

Re: [ZWeb] zope web status report 2006-02-06

2006-02-09 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:28 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > But other than that, I think we should > focus on having a zope3.org. A zope.org and zope3.org? Andrew > ___ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zo

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-23 Thread Andrew Sawyers
is point. I'll ping you all in IRC to see how I can assist making continued progress. Andrew On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 13:57 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hey, > > Sorry it took a bit to reply to this. > > Andrew Sawyers wrote: > > I asked this in IRC, but don't think

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-20 Thread Andrew Sawyers
The Senior SA at zope corp. No response to this, so I'll keep waiting. :) Andrew Sawyers On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 09:10 +, Chris Withers wrote: > Andrew Sawyers wrote: > > If there's no plan, I'll see if Mark can help with enabling us to get > > some progres

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-19 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I asked this in IRC, but don't think I got an answer: Should I work on setting up something on one of the current zope.org app servers or do we have another place where this work will be done. I started something awhile back when Sidnei and I got into a conversation about zope.org salvation and d

Re: [ZWeb] Python.org is redesigning

2006-01-19 Thread Andrew Sawyers
That looks excellent! Andrew On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 00:18 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Carlos de la Guardia wrote: > > > Have you seen http://beta.python.org/ yet? I like the "using Python for..." > > and "written in Python" boxes at the right. The design is another thing, but > > let's

RE: [ZWeb] zope.org caching

2005-10-10 Thread Andrew Sawyers
(540) 361-1700 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Haubenwallner > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:27 AM > To: zope-web@zope.org > Subject: Re: [ZWeb] zope.org caching > > Andrew Sawyers wrote: > > > No

RE: [ZWeb] zope.org caching

2005-10-10 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Note, one reason it might be behaving a little better is, I added a *real* app server finally to the zope.org app server pool. Andrew -- Zope Managed Hosting Software Engineer Zope Corporation (540) 361-1700 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > B

RE: [ZWeb] zope.org caching

2005-10-10 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Nothing has changed in the cache tier for sometime, so it's possible someone went into the ZMI and added things to the HTTP Accerlated Cache Manager - otherwise, I setup a default squid pattern match, that if the host is zope.org and there are no headers, don't cache! Andrew -- Zope Managed Hosti

RE: [ZWeb] Re: Zope 3.1.0 released!

2005-10-03 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I cleaned out the cache serversso if someone who was been able to reproduce this, please check it. Andrew -- Zope Managed Hosting Software Engineer Zope Corporation (540) 361-1700 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tres Seaver >

RE: [ZWeb] http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/ release sorting

2005-07-25 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I don't :/ A -- Zope Managed Hosting Software Engineer Zope Corporation (540) 361-1700 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Haubenwallner > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:26 AM > To: zope-web@zope.org > Subject: [ZWeb] http://www.

RE: [ZWeb] Zope.org's robots.txt

2005-04-29 Thread Andrew Sawyers
FYI, I let googlebot back in Andrew -- Zope Managed Hosting Software Engineer Zope Corporation (540) 361-1700 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Andrew Sawyers > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:25 PM > To: '

RE: [ZWeb] Zope.org's robots.txt

2005-04-14 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Temporary - I could try letting google specifically back in; but until we get the new servers in place - having the servers available seemed better then letting the spiders kill us. Andrew -- Zope Managed Hosting Software Engineer Zope Corporation (540) 361-1700 > -Original Message- > F