Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Interestingly Ishita,  a lot of the things you feel and write about are  true!  
society does not want us around! But, it is about time they begin to think 
differently! Someone has to make a   beginning to bring about the change! So 
why not us?  We have only 2 choices, either to sit around and take what the 
world wants to give us, or get up and first convince ourselves and then go out 
there and make place for us!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
 partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
 impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



 When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
 caste, religion etc should be a 

Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

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On 7/3/14, Pawan Bundela pawan@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
 we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
 personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
 then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
 list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
 sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!

 Just for fun... ha ha!

 I don't think there is a roti maker that is accessible. And it is easier
 to
 make them yourself for the clean up and assembly takes so much work and
 time
 and then how does one keep the cockroaches away?

 Just kneed the atta and get going!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
 Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Pawan Bundela
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:52 AM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

 Hi all,
  Greetings for the day
 I am looking for an accessible roti maker for 

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too, but 
replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the kindness!
You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social thing, 
but ultimately only the man and woman have to live together! If they are not 
managing to pull on, then  things can go bad socially too! let us just 
undetrstand that we all deserve life partners, that is if we wish to marry in 
the first place, and we must look out for them in a more open way. Let us stop 
looking at marrying service providers but let us marry partners for life!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training 
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
 and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and Marketing Data 
Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer 
centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sandeep Gautam
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Dear All,
First of all, unfortunately, so many mails are keep adding to this thread 
daily, but, nobody bother 
to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I 
corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will 
continue.. 

About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to 
take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it is 
a social one.

When this marriage age comes, lot of considerations play their role. like, 
parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term 
successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My point 
is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a rational, 
practical and irreversable(in normal condition) decision.   

Its true, emotions, love has its prominent place. And, I don't think any reason 
not to marry with visually-disable person, if a visually-impaired individual 
loves to other visually-impaired person. It all depends on circumstances and 
conditions. 
  
It is always a wise way to have win-win situation, when both persons feel 
themselves in winning situation. 

Sandeep





- Original Message -
From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:14:03 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my  quriyocity  are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Prashant, 
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in 
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views. 

 

Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario. 

 

The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is 

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Inspirational lectures also play a great part in what we make our lives to be!
It is amazing what men, blind or not, think  about vives! Not many consider  us 
as life partners... most of us vives are there to serve the  role of house 
keeper, maid, mother of children, cooks and someone where  our husbands can 
take out their frustrations! Very few men even consider us as individuals like 
themselves! Therefore, when looking for wives, there are many many other things 
that have to be taken into account... not  only a friend and  partner of life! 
The thing which is known and understood before marriage as 'love',  flies out 
of the window maximum before the first month of marriage is over! Then the 
story begins! 

Maybe, that is one of the factors which is driving us all to continue to look 
for service providers instead of actual husbands and wives?

Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training 
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
 and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and Marketing Data 
Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer 
centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:59 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Yes, private sector hardly accepts blind employees.
reservation has a very useful purpose in government sector.

In marriage, though I am lucky to get a post graduate wife without a major 
compromise, but I endorse the fact that many blind persons do a lot of 
compromise for getting a sighted partner.
They are not fools.
The hard realities of life go beyond any inspirational lectures.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 

[AI] Problem with combo Boxes:

2014-07-03 Thread Vidhya Y
hi Friends,
I am using Google chrome with jaws 13.
I have problem in accessing combo boxes in wwebsites.
if i press enter on a combo box and use arrow keys,
jaws does not read out the items in the list.
even I tried alt+ down arrow to open the list
and then down arrow to move through the items.
still it does not read.
 combo boxes work perfectly with firefox or Internet explorer.
is it not accessible with Google Chrome?
Thanks and Regards,
Vidhya.



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Re: [AI] my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Amar Jain
Prashant Sir: as regards marriage of 2 blind individuals is
concerned, families play a big role I believe.

For instance my parents had no problems when I discussed my desire of
marrying with a blind girl. In fact my dad went on to an extent that
even if you require support for initial years till your kids don't
grow up, what's the problem? We are there.

They are of the opinion that when they can have a son who can do
things at his own, why can't a blind girl do. And I have seen many
instances of my teachers who are totally blind but they are enjoying
their life.

But majority of the families and I agree even the boys and girls are
not comfortable with the idea of marrying another blind. And I believe
the reason for this attitude is ignorance of the possible solutions to
the challenges which blind people as married couple may face.

We as blind individuals do know the problems, but not the solutions
which people adopt. For instance, genetic counseling is the solution
to tackle the issue of a child with disability. Likewise there are
others as well.


I would like to see a discussion happening on what are the possible
problems and solutions which are adopted by blind couple themselves
for a good married life.

Thanks to all those who responded to my queries, I got a sense of what
can be done according to you.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
You are most welcome! You can be as rude as you like, no problem!
Now if you read my mail  properly, I mentioned something that you probbably
did not understand! I said that to use a roti maker there are so many steps
and troubles that it will defeat the very   purpose of saving  time! 
Looking after the roti maker, cleaning the same and maintaining  it is
something that you may like to consider. That was why I even bothered to
respond to your mail.
 Do accept my humble appology if you got offended. 
Warmly
Preeti

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Director
 

 
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pawan Bundela
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:00 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!

 Just for fun... ha ha!

 I don't think there is a roti maker that is accessible. And it is easier
to
 make them yourself for the clean up and assembly takes so much work and
 time
 and then how does one keep the cockroaches away?

 Just kneed the atta and get going!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
 Of Pawan Bundela
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:52 AM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

 Hi all,
  Greetings for the day
 I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
 the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
 possible.
  so please let me know if some one of us using it. also let me know
 its brand and moddle number.
 Thanks and regards!
 --
 pawan Bundela
 Cell:  +919870873960,
 +919029002476
 e-mail:
 pawan@gmail.com
 Skype:
 pawan.b87
 Facebook:
 HTTPs://facebook.com/pawan.bundela



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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Sandeep Gautam
Dear,

Its true that manand woman have to live together after marriage.

But, it is also true that they will not pass their whole life in a  close room 
or in a vacuum.

It is a very old but very relevant quotation, that:

Man is born free but everywhere he is in chains.

The jist of my previous mail was that,

Nothing is good or bad either marrying sighted or blind partner, rather it all 
depends on prevailing circumstances, events and context at that time. 

Some say, we will spent our whole life loving each other in any condition of 
life despite of having any kind of deprivation.

But, my friends, it is an old saying,

bhooke pet bhajan na hoye Gopala.

So, love and emotions have  their own role and other things have their distinct 
part to play in the life. 

And, decision about marrying sighted or blind partner cannot be generalized. 
Rather, it should be left upto personal judgement.  

Sandeep

 Original Message -
From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:35:46 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity,   Are normal people interested in 
marrying blind partners?

Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too, but 
replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the kindness!
You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social thing, 
but ultimately only the man and woman have to live together! If they are not 
managing to pull on, then  things can go bad socially too! let us just 
undetrstand that we all deserve life partners, that is if we wish to marry in 
the first place, and we must look out for them in a more open way. Let us stop 
looking at marrying service providers but let us marry partners for life!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
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–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
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Mining / Refining..

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sandeep Gautam
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Dear All,
First of all, unfortunately, so many mails are keep adding to this thread 
daily, but, nobody bother 
to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I 
corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will 
continue.. 

About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to 
take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it is 
a social one.

When this marriage age comes, lot of considerations play their role. like, 
parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term 
successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My point 
is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a rational, 
practical and irreversable(in normal condition) decision.   

Its true, emotions, love has its prominent place. And, I don't think any reason 
not to marry with visually-disable person, if a visually-impaired individual 
loves to other visually-impaired person. It all depends on circumstances and 
conditions. 
  
It is always a wise way to have win-win situation, when both persons feel 
themselves in winning situation. 

Sandeep





- Original Message -
From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:14:03 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my  quriyocity  are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Prashant, 
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.

Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread payal
Pawan,

Whenever you do get to a roti maker, please ensure you not only try making
it in front of the sales persons yourself, but also taste the one you've
made before finally deciding on buying one.
I have tried one such roti maker years ago but found it quite useless. The
roti seems undercooked and not at all like the roties one would make
manually. A little difference in taste and texture I can live with, but this
was nothing you would want to eat. Strangely when the salesperson made his
roti, it was pretty good. As far as accessibility went, it wasn't very
difficult to handle.
One needs to be careful because you are dealing with an electrical
connection and a hot tava as the roti press is a tava after all.
I am writing this after seeing Manish's details on an available roti maker.
There might be better appliances today when compared to the one I used about
almost a decade ago.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Manish Agarwal
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:34 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

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On 7/3/14, Pawan Bundela pawan@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
 we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
 personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
 then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
 list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
 sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!

 Just for fun... ha ha!

 I don't 

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Amit Bhatt
HI all

This enthralling topic of discussion has also obliged me to put my
thought across. I am still bachelor though, however, would like to
give a few points from my own observation.
Well, I think initially the main subject of this discussion was
weather a sighted person gets interested to be married with a
non-sighted partner? But steadily the theme appears to be divided in
two part of the discussion, one is whether sighted prefers a blind
partner (what happens in the current scenario) and
2nd, whether a blind person look ahead to seek a sighted partner.

Well, undoubtedly people with disabilities, in particular to  people
with vision impairment have been now equally contributing to the
society and today the blind folks are really found smart, active and
independent in almost all aspect of the life, be it personal, social
or professional life what so ever. However, the another irrefutable
fact is that in spite of being on the front in most of the aspects
today, people with vision impairment confront a huge hurdle in many
areas and marriage is one of the main facets where we people face the
challenges while choosing a life partner.
Now factually what happens: sighted people happen to be our friends
easily and they also join us in most of the time in office or
Schools/Colleges but when it comes to marriage, sighted people do not
prefer to get married with a blind boy or girl. A bitter truth is that
no work is done altruistically in this world and a large number of
sighted people understand the disability, specially blindness as a
huge Burdon in spite of knowing the abilities of the visually
impaired. Tell me, how many private employers employ the blind
employees despite of seeing the blind well working in other
organizations? This is just an example. There might be several other
areas where the people with blindness are not accepted even with good
abilities or qualities. Similarly in the matter of marriage, visually
challenge guys and girls are not considered by the sighted easily and
comprehensively.
I would not deject anyone to marry with a sighted partner, even I am
also not sure for myself whether I am going to get married with a
sighted or blind but what all I can say from my little experience that
largely marriage between a blind or sighted is more or less a
compromise and negotiation between the two hearts.
Call it a luck or whatever may it be, but the fact is that all the
smarts, active or self-independent guys or girls do not get the
sighted life partner who could be stand equally in professional or
social status.
I have a wide network of the sighted people, I have done all my
schooling and college from the mainstream, I have been working in the
corporate sector with my sighted counterparts and, this is what I have
experienced in being with the sighted. Some time if the girl or boy is
ready to marry with us, their.

 parents do not allow them to do so. I was working in my previous
office where a sighted friend of mine herself expressed her views with
me if I can marry to her. Paradoxically I actually do not wanted to
marry her and I didn't say or no that time. After couple of days, I
had come to know that her parents were not ready for this proposal.
Well this is just an example about how parents do not get ready at
most of the junctures and a blind person cannot always accept a
sighted person as a life partner. Both sighted or non-sighted have
their own choices or priorities. If you wish to get married with a
sighted one, make the efforts for that, and if you wish to marry with
a blind partner, put your efforts for that. It's a matter of your own
priority, as simple as that.
  If some people think that sighted would come and fall in love with
us and then get married, well I would again say that even the so
called love is not done unselfishly these days. I cannot be persuaded
by a very few incomparable and exceptional examples where blind have
got a equal sighted life partner who matches with maximum
compatibility.
Another fact is visually impaired people want to marry with the
sighted partner also because of the security and so on. Many of our
experts have said here while adding to this discussion that 'we blind
people are not lesser than sighted today in all aspect,' I too agree
here and this is what I've also written in the above lines, but then
my question to those people that why you or a blind person need to
seek a sighted life partner when you feel that the visually impaired
are no where less significant than the sighted people? Perhaps simply
because you or some of us have a small qualm somewhere in the corner
of the mind or heart about the capabilities of the blind.
Exactly in a similar manner, some time sighted people know our good
qualities and they also revere us for that, but do not show that
courage to get married with the blind.

Well I feel mostly points have been well covered in this topic by many
of us. At the end I would just say actually 'marriage is not a thing
to do, it is 

[AI] On Quota for College Admission.

2014-07-03 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Hello,

My vh friends at the Jadabpur University informed me that they are losing 
opportunity for admission following the literal implementation of the 
reservation policy. Earlier all disabled candidates were considered together, 
that is, 3% seats were reserved for the disabled irrespective of the type of 
disability. Since vh candidates applying for humanity subjects had good marks, 
they always got admission. This year the university has introduced the 1-1-1 
reservation quota. An oH candidate who got less than a vh candidate has got 
admission in the 1% seat.

I hope, I have explained it correctly. I told them that there is no way to stop 
it since the university is actually implementing the policy to the letter. On 
the other hand, once the quota has been declared, it cannot be withdrawn now. 
It will be challenged by those who have benefited from it. I am quoting 
relevant portion from the web page:

IV) Permanently Disabled quota as per rules.
V) Persons with 40% or more disability will only be considered for admission 
under PD category under PWD (Equal Opportunity, Protection of Rights and Full 
Participation) Act, 1995.
VI) 3% of total seats are kept reserved for candidates who have applied under 
PD quota. The seats are allocated in 1:1:1 proportion to the following 
categories of disability (order No.598-Edn(A)10M-53/98 dated 4.12.1998) 
depending on availability of number of seats. Caandidates are selected on the 
basis of final score calculated.
i) Blindness or low vision
ii) Hearing impairment
iii) Locomotor disability or cerebral palsy
subject to clause V above

Perhaps we should also remember that vh candidates normally go for science 
stream. I want you to comment on the subject.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329


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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Harish Kapoor
Good Preeti  madam. This is not need of society, This is our need to
make a place in society. However, I have also An opportunity to spend
my life with sighted girl, she is TGT teacher in school.

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Interestingly Ishita,  a lot of the things you feel and write about are
 true!  society does not want us around! But, it is about time they begin to
 think differently! Someone has to make a   beginning to bring about the
 change! So why not us?  We have only 2 choices, either to sit around and
 take what the world wants to give us, or get up and first convince ourselves
 and then go out there and make place for us!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
 He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
 And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
 institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
 And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
 We are getting job because reservation.
 I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
 society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
 i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
 girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
 can i consider them fool?

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special
 Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts
 there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but
 there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
 Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing
 anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be
 ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors
 desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is 

[AI] for vedic mathamatics

2014-07-03 Thread Mohit Gupta
dear compitition exams asparints,
All student of this category have to solve mathamatical problems in
mind during the examination hour. I search on google about vedic
mathamatics techniques. By which we can solve multiplication and other
operations easily and very fast.
Does anyone has these  techniques books in accessible format? In the
market and online stores have many and many books but how we can read
and learn them.

Thank you.
-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Mohit Gupta.
Rajasthan.



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Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread Sushmeetha
Hey Friends

I personally haven't used roti maker, but my friend has this appliance  she
told that its not a high recommendable device. As many a times the roti is
half cooked, the dove needs to be very soft, it takes  lot of time to cook
each roti. If we have 2 persons eating food together then due to the cooking
speed of the device, they will have to wait for a longer duration. 

Hope this info is of some help. 

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here r some of the web address which ig got from the net
Roti Maker - Libra Appliances Pvt Ltd
www.libra-appliances.com/roti-maker.htm

The Chapati Maker made accessible by us is available with an insulated
... as one of the renowned Automatic Roti Maker Exporters and
Suppliers in India.
Roti Makers - Tools  Equipment - ExportersIndia.com
tools.exportersindia.com/products/food-processing.../roti-makers.htm

Roti Maker. [India]. Libra Appliances Pvt Ltd - Manufacturer,
Exporters, ... We Present Highly Advanced Roti Maker. the Chapati
Maker Made Accessible By Us is ...
Is there any electric automatic Roti/chapati maker in which we put ...
https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid...

The Chapati Maker made accessible by us is available with an ... one
of the renowned Automatic Roti Maker Exporters and Suppliers in India.
Roti Maker -- Buy Roti Maker, Price , Photo Roti Maker, from Libra ...
kolkata.all.biz/roti-maker-g420942

22 Feb 2012 ... Buy Roti Maker Home appliances in Kolkata India -- from
Libra Appliances ... The Chapati Maker made accessible by us is
available with an ...
Buy Magic Roti Maker Surplus Online in India: Lowest Price: Magic ...
www.gobol.in/magic-roti-maker.html

Gobol.in: Buy Surplus Magic Roti Maker at best price Rs. , Save 1%,
Assured Warranty. Sourced from Magic. Online Kitchen Appliances Store.
Free Home ...
Roti Maker - View Details
www.citylocal.in/travel-india/roti-maker-nagar-nagar_104262.htm

Travel India 7/9, East Patel Nagar Nagar Rajasthan india-Travel India
is ... The Chapati Maker made accessible by us is available with an
insulated handle to ...
Chapati maker - SlideShare
www.slideshare.net/jasenterprise/chapati-maker

9 Jun 2011 ... We have Indian bre flour called chapati, flour in ead ,
our store. chine has ... The sem automatic roti, chapati machine w
always p mi c will ...
Chapati Maker Machines  Kitchen Equipment by Krishna ...
www.slideshare.net/IndiaMARTSuppliers/chapati-maker-machines-kitchen-
equipment-by-krishna-enterprises-new-delhi-india-new-delhi

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Enterprises, New Delhi, India, New Delhi. IndiaMART InterMESH Limited
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On 7/3/14, Pawan Bundela pawan@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
 we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
 personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
 then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
 list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
 sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!

 Just for 

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Amit Bhatt
On 7/3/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
 He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
 And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
 institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
 And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
 We are getting job because reservation.
 I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
 society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
 i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
 girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
 can i consider them fool?

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special
 Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts
 there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but
 there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
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 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
 Corporate
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 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing
 anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be
 ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors
 desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
 partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
 impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



 When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
 caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



 I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
 around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
 marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners.
 Finally
 they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally
 seen
 to be more open minded and accommodating.



 It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
 non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
 time will increase chances of finding partners.



 I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.



 -Original Message-

 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor

 Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.

 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



 I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

 Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
 valid.

 I have 40 percent vision.

 And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
 dream
 unless he has social or economical problems.

 In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get 

[AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Sameer

Dear Ishita, 

I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely 
blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other 
partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in 
Mumbai. 

Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the 
salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability  
qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the 
private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is 
not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind 
employees adequately. 

I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind 
individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind 
individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted 
counterparts.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India


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Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread Suman Dogra
I tried using one local brand last year for a few days.  You can cook good
rotis with a little practice.  
But due to electric charge these rotis cannot be kept for long as tawa
cooked rotis.  Either they dry out or they don't remain non eatable once
they become cold or kept for more than one hour or so.
Secondly even if you make rotis that are soft and fluffy, you will observe
that two or three rotis get attached to each other. They do not stay
separate from each other like tawa roti may be because of electric charge.
You can eat such rotis fresh only.
You will have to Apply oil or butter on them so they do not attach to each
other.
Also, stuffed paranthas could not be cooked properly on them though ad
exhibits that you can do so.  May be one has to learn how to cook aaloo  or
other stuffed paranthas on it.


Suman



  

   


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pawan Bundela
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 9:52 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hi all,
 Greetings for the day
I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
possible.
 so please let me know if some one of us using it. also let me know its
brand and moddle number.
Thanks and regards!
--
pawan Bundela
Cell:  +919870873960,
+919029002476
e-mail:
pawan@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
That is exactly what I meant... unfortunately, my english was misunderstood!
Our own hands and the old regular way is the best way to get roties done
quick and fast.
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sushmeetha
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:43 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hey Friends

I personally haven't used roti maker, but my friend has this appliance  she
told that its not a high recommendable device. As many a times the roti is
half cooked, the dove needs to be very soft, it takes  lot of time to cook
each roti. If we have 2 persons eating food together then due to the cooking
speed of the device, they will have to wait for a longer duration. 

Hope this info is of some help. 

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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Marrying a service provider?
yes, we all want life partners, but it is also the bitter truth that love is 
not unconditional.
You yourself had written that you make sure that your husband has proper meals.
So, isn't it service providing?
if you want to term works done by spouses for one another and family, as 
providing service, then fine.
everybody needs service providers.
If one of the spouses is blind, services provided by other spouse would surely 
be much more.
If both are blind, they will have to invariably hire many services, which a 
sighted spouse could have provided free of cost.
So, I always say, as one of my friend puts it, money matters, but it matters 
much more for us, the blind...


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:36 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too, but 
replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the kindness!
You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social thing, 
but ultimately only the man and woman have to live together! If they are not 
managing to pull on, then  things can go bad socially too! let us just 
undetrstand that we all deserve life partners, that is if we wish to marry in 
the first place, and we must look out for them in a more open way. Let us stop 
looking at marrying service providers but let us marry partners for life!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sandeep Gautam
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Dear All,
First of all, unfortunately, so many mails are keep adding to this thread 
daily, but, nobody bother
to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I 
corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will 
continue..

About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to 
take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it is 
a social one.

When this marriage age comes, lot of considerations play their role. like, 
parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term 
successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My point 
is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a rational, 
practical and irreversable(in normal condition) decision.

Its true, emotions, love has its prominent place. And, I don't think any reason 
not to marry with visually-disable person, if a visually-impaired individual 
loves to other visually-impaired person. It all depends on circumstances and 
conditions.

It is always a wise way to have win-win situation, when both persons feel 
themselves in winning situation.

Sandeep





- Original Message -
From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:14:03 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my  quriyocity  are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Prashant,
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive 

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Amit Bhatt
Dear Ishita,

I agree with you that it is hard to get the jobs in the corporate
sector but would just like to correct you that all the blind employees
working in corporate/private sector do not get their salary in the
figure of 6-7 thousand rupees. I can assure you that blind employees
of the corporate sector also earn in lacks or in decent amount as far
as salary is concerned. Also bear in the mind that reservation is not
applicable in the private sector. Hence mostly visually impaired
employees got the job here in the private sector because of their
ability and capabilities.
Well the topic of work and remuneration is a different than what we
have been discussing but I've just written you to show the correct
scenario in the corporate world.

Warm regards,

Amit Bhatt

Sr. Software Accessibility Testing engineer - QA Infotech pvt. Ltd.
http://www.qainfotech.net

Moderator - SayEverything, an international mailing list dedicated to
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On 7/3/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
 He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
 And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
 institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
 And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
 We are getting job because reservation.
 I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
 society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
 i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
 girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
 can i consider them fool?

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special
 Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts
 there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but
 there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
 Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing
 anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be
 ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors
 desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
 partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
 impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



 When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
 caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



 I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
 around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing 

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread George Abraham
A lot of content has been shared on this topic over the past few days. Great 
experiences have been shared. Issues have been hotly debated and still I do not 
think any conclusion has been arrived at  or for that matter none will be 
arrived at.

The law of gravity states that anything that is thrown up will fall to the 
ground. This is an absolute truth and fact. No debate. 

As far as blind people marrying blind people or blind persons marrying sighted 
persons experiences are varied and I do not think there can be an absolutestand 
on it.

Perceptions, attitude, education family backgrounds, exposure, all of this 
would contribute. No marriage can be looked down upon. It is about two people 
coming together. Every relationship is possible.

Further the reasons for which people marry also can vary. This too can have an 
impact on how the marriage works out.

So I do not think anyone is right or wrong here since all of us are speaking 
from experiences either lived or seen.  So if someone asks the question can a 
blind man marry a sighted woman or the other way around, my simple answer would 
be yes. It depends entirely on the two people involved and their 
circumstances.  

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: 03 July 2014 10:52
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
 partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
 impaired partner also takes care of many other 

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Great!

Now there is something more I wish to add here. We blind people somehow
imagine that we are very smart  and fashonable and upto date. Now please
don't take me wrong again. We seem to forget that  sighted people can
actually see, and there are so many little things in our body language,
dress, behaviour, style and gestures that can make us  look  odd and  funny
and out of place in the sighted world! Most of us do not even know of this,
and sighted friends, family and other members of the sighted society don't
have the heart or the courage to tell us about what we are doing wrong! I
too am approaching this subject with a little fear in my heart... fear of
again being misunderstood! Pointing out faults of others is not a good thing
anyway, then can you imagine how difficult it is to point out faults of
blind people to them is?  So even some sighted person does want to marry a
blind person, for she/he is in love with her/him, this sighted person just
may not be able to do so because of the fact below:
First of all people are going to point at me for marrying a blind partner.
Then  this blind guy/ girl  has such a strange  habit/manner/way of
dressing/way of eating/way of shaking around etc. It is going to be so
embarrassing having him/her  around!
I know he/she is so wonderful a person, and I love him/her so much, but
I dont have the heart to correct him/her!
What will my friends say? 
What will my relatives think? He/she looks so funny/strange/odd!

Now do you get my point? Here you cannot look like or behave  like a
pumpkin in a plate of potatoes! You have to at least look close to a potato
to get accepted in a plate of potatoes! Otherwise it is going to be very
difficult to get you through! You can taste like a pumpkin but at least you
have to look like a potato, or at least close to it! I wonder if I have made
my point clear?

There is a lot of introspection we need to do here. Where is the trouble, we
are going on and on talking about the same things and landing no where. I
think we now need to find solutions to the reasons that are coming in our
way of mainstreaming.
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Harish Kapoor
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:37 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Good Preeti  madam. This is not need of society, This is our need to
make a place in society. However, I have also An opportunity to spend
my life with sighted girl, she is TGT teacher in school.

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Interestingly Ishita,  a lot of the things you feel and write about are
 true!  society does not want us around! But, it is about time they begin
to
 think differently! Someone has to make a   beginning to bring about the
 change! So why not us?  We have only 2 choices, either to sit around and
 take what the world wants to give us, or get up and first convince
ourselves
 and then go out there and make place for us!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
 He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
 And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
 institutes such as banks schools etc, or with 

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Great thank you Amit! We have to stop behaving like ostriches with our heads
stuffed under the sand! The head needs to come up and we need to take a look
around at  what all is available out  there, and how are we going to get
some for ourselves as well. Including marriage and love.
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:58 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

I agree with you that it is hard to get the jobs in the corporate
sector but would just like to correct you that all the blind employees
working in corporate/private sector do not get their salary in the
figure of 6-7 thousand rupees. I can assure you that blind employees
of the corporate sector also earn in lacks or in decent amount as far
as salary is concerned. Also bear in the mind that reservation is not
applicable in the private sector. Hence mostly visually impaired
employees got the job here in the private sector because of their
ability and capabilities.
Well the topic of work and remuneration is a different than what we
have been discussing but I've just written you to show the correct
scenario in the corporate world.

Warm regards,

Amit Bhatt

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On 7/3/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
 He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
 And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
 institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
 And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
 We are getting job because reservation.
 I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
 society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
 i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
 girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
 can i consider them fool?

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special
 Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts
 there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but
 there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
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 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
 Corporate
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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing
 anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what 

Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread George Abraham
Being blind is not the problem it is the perception and the understanding
about blindness that is the problem. We need to work on the perceptions.
Perception issues apply both to sighted people as well as blind people.

It is perception that impacts the kind of education that we blind people
have access to. It is perceptions that determines the way our parents
respond to our blindness. It is perception that determines how the society
responds to us. It is perception that defines how the Govt looks at us. I
can go on. Hence we need to address the perception issues. Further the
realities are known to us. We live in adynamic World and we , each of us
are dynamites potentially. We can be the change. While we acknowledge the
realities, our focus should be to be the change/make the change. The World
can be a better place  for all of us.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sameer
Sent: 03 July 2014 12:47
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals -
Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Dear Ishita, 

I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
completely 
blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other 
partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in 
Mumbai. 

Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the

salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability  
qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the 
private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is 
not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind 
employees adequately. 

I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind 
individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind 
individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
sighted 
counterparts.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India


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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
I love my second  husband so I make sure I provide all the services to him 
unconditionally and so does he! I did not  ultimately love my first husband, 
for we did not share similar values, so I refused to provide any service to him 
and left him after trying to make all amends for 11 years.
And it is  very interesting that you are getting all upset about this 
discussion. Don't as you will read George has summed up in a very fine manner,  
there is no perfect recipie for marriage. We just have to see what works for us!
Warmly
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Marrying a service provider?
yes, we all want life partners, but it is also the bitter truth that love is 
not unconditional.
You yourself had written that you make sure that your husband has proper meals.
So, isn't it service providing?
if you want to term works done by spouses for one another and family, as 
providing service, then fine.
everybody needs service providers.
If one of the spouses is blind, services provided by other spouse would surely 
be much more.
If both are blind, they will have to invariably hire many services, which a 
sighted spouse could have provided free of cost.
So, I always say, as one of my friend puts it, money matters, but it matters 
much more for us, the blind...


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:36 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too, but 
replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the kindness!
You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social thing, 
but ultimately only the man and woman have to live together! If they are not 
managing to pull on, then  things can go bad socially too! let us just 
undetrstand that we all deserve life partners, that is if we wish to marry in 
the first place, and we must look out for them in a more open way. Let us stop 
looking at marrying service providers but let us marry partners for life!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sandeep Gautam
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Dear All,
First of all, unfortunately, so many mails are keep adding to this thread 
daily, but, nobody bother
to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I 
corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will 
continue..

About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to 
take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it is 
a social one.

When this marriage age comes, lot of considerations play their role. like, 
parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term 
successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My point 
is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a rational, 
practical and irreversable(in normal condition) 

Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into lacs!
So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are blind,
but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve
great hights!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sameer
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals -
Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Dear Ishita, 

I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely

blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other 
partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in 
Mumbai. 

Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the 
salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability  
qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the 
private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is 
not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind 
employees adequately. 

I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind 
individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind 
individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted

counterparts.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India


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Re: [AI] my curiosity are normal people interestedin marrying blind partners

2014-07-03 Thread Nitin

This is Rajesh, trying to throw light on practical side of the debate.

--
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:43 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerningthedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] my curiosity are normal people interestedin	marrying	blind 
partners


Even though we are discussing the topic, I think we are shunning 
discussion about the real issue and are just boasting confidence by 
various means.
Granted the primacy of compatibility in matrimony, but the concept is too 
abstract and we need an operational definition of the thing.
Besides, given inter marriages  between sighted and blind both the genders 
included,  and intra marriages between blind,  how and when blindness 
becomes relevant and what are the repercussions?
Or do we say that if blindness becomes relevant, there is no 
compabibility?


Some pointers I would like to state as under:
1. is the possibility of having blind children considered/discussed/dealt 
with?
2. Does the blind spouse feel that the sighted partner understands 
blindness and issues arising therefrom on a long term basis well?

3. how Do spouses  deal with lack of aesthetic visual inputs and outputs?
4. Does visual absence affect parenting styles, if yes how and to what 
extent?

5. What effect blindness has on social life of the couple?
6. have the comparative studies of relative matrimonial satisfaction of 
blind-sighted and blind-blind couples done and are the gender differences 
considered in disability perspective?

7. How do the combinations affect sexual life?

I am not asking for research papers on these and various other issues, but 
at least we can openly discuss various ramifications of blindness in 
marriage with blind or sighted.

If we are just happy living in euphoria of blindness, then it is okay...
Rajesh

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Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:27 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my curiosity are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners


Shadab
thought not to write.
But, expressing idea is one thing and
showing linguistic prowess is another.
I quote:
A gent never fears rejections and knows how to dismiss them. A gent never 
cares about the impractical theory of one life one love. A gent knows he 
has abundant beautiful options. A gent knows how to make her regret the 
decision of rejecting him. A gent has a superb self-steam and never feels 
helpless in front of one-sided or unrequited love. A gent never needs a 
female shoulder because he knows how to solve his problems. A gent mocks 
most theories of love portrayed in Bollywood. A gent knows how to make 
others wonder at his toughness.



Now do you really subscribe to this approach?
Or is it merely a superficial statement to boast confidence like the god?
I believe it is later, and smacks of male arrogance and demeans love...

Do have second thoughts before just writing

Your well wisher
Rajesh Asudani
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shadab Husain

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:37 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my curiosity are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners


Thanks ma'am that you found it amazing.

Friends, I think the trick is to value yourself, be thankful for your
talents, follow the basics of fashion, be tough, be brave and propose
the damn creature.

A gent never fears rejections and knows how to dismiss them. A gent
never cares about the impractical theory of one life one love. A gent
knows he has abundant beautiful options. A gent knows how to make her
regret the decision of rejecting him. A gent has a superb self-steam
and never feels helpless in front of one-sided or unrequited love. A
gent never needs a female shoulder because he knows how to solve his
problems. A gent mocks most theories of love portrayed in Bollywood. A
gent knows how to make others wonder at his toughness.

Cool?

PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.in

Shadab


On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:

I read your story. Great!

Keep shareing all views and thoughts, as all experiences only make us all
richer! I am happy you are happy! I do hope all find their  partners and
are
happy with them!
Preeti

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Re: [AI] my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Nitin

This is one of the mails I liked.

--
From: Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:59 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] my curiosity,Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?



Prashant Sir: as regards marriage of 2 blind individuals is
concerned, families play a big role I believe.

For instance my parents had no problems when I discussed my desire of
marrying with a blind girl. In fact my dad went on to an extent that
even if you require support for initial years till your kids don't
grow up, what's the problem? We are there.

They are of the opinion that when they can have a son who can do
things at his own, why can't a blind girl do. And I have seen many
instances of my teachers who are totally blind but they are enjoying
their life.

But majority of the families and I agree even the boys and girls are
not comfortable with the idea of marrying another blind. And I believe
the reason for this attitude is ignorance of the possible solutions to
the challenges which blind people as married couple may face.

We as blind individuals do know the problems, but not the solutions
which people adopt. For instance, genetic counseling is the solution
to tackle the issue of a child with disability. Likewise there are
others as well.


I would like to see a discussion happening on what are the possible
problems and solutions which are adopted by blind couple themselves
for a good married life.

Thanks to all those who responded to my queries, I got a sense of what
can be done according to you.

Regards,
--
Amar Jain.
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityare normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Nitin

Well said though I partially agreed.

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From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:02 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners A lot of content has been shared on this topic over the past few days. 
Great experiences have been shared. Issues have been hotly debated and still 
I do not think any conclusion has been arrived at  or for that matter none 
will be arrived at.


The law of gravity states that anything that is thrown up will fall to the 
ground. This is an absolute truth and fact. No debate.


As far as blind people marrying blind people or blind persons marrying 
sighted persons experiences are varied and I do not think there can be an 
absolutestand on it.


Perceptions, attitude, education family backgrounds, exposure, all of this 
would contribute. No marriage can be looked down upon. It is about two 
people coming together. Every relationship is possible.


Further the reasons for which people marry also can vary. This too can 
have an impact on how the marriage works out.


So I do not think anyone is right or wrong here since all of us are 
speaking from experiences either lived or seen.  So if someone asks the 
question can a blind man marry a sighted woman or the other way around, my 
simple answer would be yes. It depends entirely on the two people 
involved and their circumstances.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 03 July 2014 10:52
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:

Dear Prashant,
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special 
Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts 
there.

Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but 
there

are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing 
anything

on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views.



Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario.



The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are 
not

willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be 
ready

to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors 
desire

sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of 
the

Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread ishita kapoor
Dear samir sir,
First of all congrats.
Well, I never wanted to say that no blind is working or can’t work in
private sector.
There may be few lucky people like you who got such handsome salary.
I also working with international call centre and was earning fine.
Though I have left that job myself. But I joined that cc as a non
disable. But if I ask another call centre to give me employment as a
blind individual I would not get job easily, it doesn’t mean that I
won’t get. But would face difficulty in convincing them
I have learnt through mailing lists that blind persons are equally talented.
But you will have to agree that very few people get proper job in
private sector.


On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
 Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into lacs!
 So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are
 blind,
 but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve
 great hights!
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Sameer
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals -
 Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


 Dear Ishita,

 I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
 completely

 blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other
 partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in
 Mumbai.

 Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the

 salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability 
 qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the
 private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is
 not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind
 employees adequately.

 I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind
 individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind
 individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
 sighted

 counterparts.

 Regards
 Mr. Sameer Latey,
 Mumbai, India


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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityare normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Nitin

This is the mail from the chain I liked too much!!!
I fully agree with the guy's views. The boy is partially sighted and married 
to a blind girl. The same thing should happened what I feel. Partially boy 
should marry to blind girl and Partially girl should marry to blind boy. I 
do understand it is depend on person to person and theirs attitude. I don't 
want to say that blind boy should not marry to sighted and vice versa. If 
some how blind gets a sighted partner and there is well understanding 
between them then nothing like it


Kaka, you may like to read the story. Great learning for VIs!
http://retinaindia.blogspot.in/2011/11/of-disclosing-disability-before.html

Kind Regards,
Nitin

--
From: Prashant Verma prashant...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing 
anything

on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views.



Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario.



The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be 
ready

to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors 
desire

sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. 
Finally
they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally 
seen

to be more open minded and accommodating.



It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
time will increase chances of finding partners.



I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.



-Original Message-

From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are 
valid.


I have 40 percent vision.

And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in 
dream

unless he has social or economical problems.

In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any
girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is 
poor

Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.

Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.

And I don't have any bitter feeling for this belief.

Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
aspects I can't marry with the guy who doesn't have both arms and both 
legs.


The same way I shouldn't expect such charity from any able bodied man.

And yes I won't get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by

saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to
tariff kar saku.

I don't have much experience but still I would like to advice all 
youngsters

that please don't do this.

Don't ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya
chahti hun.





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You are very right!



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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
getting upset?
again what we call in psychology, the intentional fallacy!

You had yourself writtten if I remember correctly that you are yet to figure 
out what is this thing called love!!!
I am not being personal, just giving cross references and pointing out 
contradictions...

So, I maintain that love is not unconditional, and it has to be operationally 
defined.
I think Avinash had asked me in sayeverything convention this question and I 
could not reply due to time constraints.

So, a blind spouse does put some additional liabilities on the non-blind 
partner, which is but fair only.
Of course, we cannot and should not depend for all visual matters on our 
non-blind partner, but as he/she is our life partner, we have every right to 
expect a lion's share when it comes to visual tasks.

I don't know why all this fuss is made about being equal and all.
We are blind, so are not equal.
We have every right to demand ffairness, our blindness relevantly considered.
But, why do we expect super average performance from a blind person, be it in 
marriage or otherwise?
A blind person has a right to be an average person, me thinks.
Both the blind partners Marrying each other, requires a great courage, which is 
fortunately not lacking either, and my own two elder blind sisters have shown 
it, as have countless other couples.
But, mobility, money, social support and a host of other factors take on a much 
significant role then.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:24 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

I love my second  husband so I make sure I provide all the services to him 
unconditionally and so does he! I did not  ultimately love my first husband, 
for we did not share similar values, so I refused to provide any service to him 
and left him after trying to make all amends for 11 years.
And it is  very interesting that you are getting all upset about this 
discussion. Don't as you will read George has summed up in a very fine manner,  
there is no perfect recipie for marriage. We just have to see what works for us!
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Marrying a service provider?
yes, we all want life partners, but it is also the bitter truth that love is 
not unconditional.
You yourself had written that you make sure that your husband has proper meals.
So, isn't it service providing?
if you want to term works done by spouses for one another and family, as 
providing service, then fine.
everybody needs service providers.
If one of the spouses is blind, services provided by other spouse would surely 
be much more.
If both are blind, they will have to invariably hire many services, which a 
sighted spouse could have provided free of cost.
So, I always say, as one of my friend puts it, money matters, but it matters 
much more for us, the blind...


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:36 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too, but 
replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the kindness!
You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social thing, 
but ultimately only the man and woman have to live together! If they are not 
managing to pull on, then  things can go bad socially too! let us just 
undetrstand that we all deserve life partners, that is if we wish to marry in 
the first place, and we must look out for them in a more open way. Let us stop 
looking at marrying service providers but let us marry partners for life!
Preeti


[AI] moderator: Re: . Re: my quriyocityare normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread harish

All
I was following this thread closely and did not intervene. I guess George 
has summarised it adequately and it is time we apply a brake on this thread.


We had a  multitude of opinion and each of the shade stands out. It is a 
wealth of resource for someone to mull over this subject in future.


Thanks all for enthusiastically participating in this topic.

Harish Kotian

- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityare 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



A lot of content has been shared on this topic over the past few days. 
Great experiences have been shared. Issues have been hotly debated and 
still I do not think any conclusion has been arrived at  or for that matter 
none will be arrived at.


The law of gravity states that anything that is thrown up will fall to the 
ground. This is an absolute truth and fact. No debate.


As far as blind people marrying blind people or blind persons marrying 
sighted persons experiences are varied and I do not think there can be an 
absolutestand on it.


Perceptions, attitude, education family backgrounds, exposure, all of this 
would contribute. No marriage can be looked down upon. It is about two 
people coming together. Every relationship is possible.


Further the reasons for which people marry also can vary. This too can 
have an impact on how the marriage works out.


So I do not think anyone is right or wrong here since all of us are 
speaking from experiences either lived or seen.  So if someone asks the 
question can a blind man marry a sighted woman or the other way around, my 
simple answer would be yes. It depends entirely on the two people 
involved and their circumstances.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 03 July 2014 10:52
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:

Dear Prashant,
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special 
Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts 
there.

Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but 
there

are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing 
anything

on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views.



Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario.



The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are 
not

willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be 
ready

to accept a visually impaired partner. My 

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread ishita kapoor
I am 100 percent agree with my friend amit bhat on this.
And true rajesh sir, money matters more for us.
If we have enough money we  would get sighted life partner as service provider.
(poor or uneducated)


On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 I love my second  husband so I make sure I provide all the services to him
 unconditionally and so does he! I did not  ultimately love my first husband,
 for we did not share similar values, so I refused to provide any service to
 him and left him after trying to make all amends for 11 years.
 And it is  very interesting that you are getting all upset about this
 discussion. Don't as you will read George has summed up in a very fine
 manner,  there is no perfect recipie for marriage. We just have to see what
 works for us!
 Warmly
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:54 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 Marrying a service provider?
 yes, we all want life partners, but it is also the bitter truth that love is
 not unconditional.
 You yourself had written that you make sure that your husband has proper
 meals.
 So, isn't it service providing?
 if you want to term works done by spouses for one another and family, as
 providing service, then fine.
 everybody needs service providers.
 If one of the spouses is blind, services provided by other spouse would
 surely be much more.
 If both are blind, they will have to invariably hire many services, which a
 sighted spouse could have provided free of cost.
 So, I always say, as one of my friend puts it, money matters, but it matters
 much more for us, the blind...


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:36 AM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too,
 but replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the
 kindness!
 You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social
 thing, but ultimately only the man and woman have to live together! If they
 are not managing to pull on, then  things can go bad socially too! let us
 just undetrstand that we all deserve life partners, that is if we wish to
 marry in the first place, and we must look out for them in a more open way.
 Let us stop looking at marrying service providers but let us marry partners
 for life!
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Sandeep Gautam
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 Dear All,
 First of all, unfortunately, so many mails are keep adding to this thread
 daily, but, nobody bother
 to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I
 corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will
 continue..

 About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to
 take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it
 is a social one.

 When this marriage age comes, lot of 

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
No No I dont get upset.. thank you for participating in this  thread, at least 
a lot of people participated with complete enthu! It is lovely that people like 
you and me have got the youngsters to at least start talking about this 
subject! Yes, I do say that I  have not yet figured out the meaning of love! 
But, what I feel for my dear husband is termed as love from my end.
Now, you are right about us  expectations from the blind! And no matter what we 
achieve, we still remain poor things, at least that is what is said by the 
sighted world! Well, as I had mentioned in my earlier mail, we all knowthe 
present situation and hardships of blind people; I am no different, but yet, 
where is the harm  in geting together and claiming what is ours in the world. 
It is difficult, but we are all used to difficulty and still succeeding... then 
why not here? We cannot change the fact that we cant see... but we can start to 
change the facts and see if we and the sighted society can see things 
differently! 
The modrator has requested this thread closed and this will be my last mail 
here, but we are going to take this subject further via the Fusion platform, 
where we are  trying to get  sighted people as well. I once again am taking the 
liberty of inviting you to come over and add value to the discussion at the 
next Fusion meet? It will my pleasure and honor to have you there with us. 
Please do connect with me on my phone number listed in my signature or on my 
personal email.
I would love to speak with you, may I have  your  phone number?
The Fusion  meet is on the 3rd August at 2 pm. at the India International 
Center Anexe Lecture room 2.

Thank you all for putting up with my writing. I do hope we all are a lot wiser 
and smarter now!

Warmly
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:46 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

getting upset?
again what we call in psychology, the intentional fallacy!

You had yourself writtten if I remember correctly that you are yet to figure 
out what is this thing called love!!!
I am not being personal, just giving cross references and pointing out 
contradictions...

So, I maintain that love is not unconditional, and it has to be operationally 
defined.
I think Avinash had asked me in sayeverything convention this question and I 
could not reply due to time constraints.

So, a blind spouse does put some additional liabilities on the non-blind 
partner, which is but fair only.
Of course, we cannot and should not depend for all visual matters on our 
non-blind partner, but as he/she is our life partner, we have every right to 
expect a lion's share when it comes to visual tasks.

I don't know why all this fuss is made about being equal and all.
We are blind, so are not equal.
We have every right to demand ffairness, our blindness relevantly considered.
But, why do we expect super average performance from a blind person, be it in 
marriage or otherwise?
A blind person has a right to be an average person, me thinks.
Both the blind partners Marrying each other, requires a great courage, which is 
fortunately not lacking either, and my own two elder blind sisters have shown 
it, as have countless other couples.
But, mobility, money, social support and a host of other factors take on a much 
significant role then.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:24 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

I love my second  husband so I make sure I provide all the services to him 
unconditionally and so does he! I did not  ultimately love my first husband, 
for we did not share similar values, so I refused to provide any service to him 
and left him after trying to make all amends for 11 years.
And it is  very interesting that you are getting all upset about this 
discussion. Don't as you will read George has summed up in a very fine 

Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread Suman Dogra
As far as accessibility of roti maker is concerned, You can try out any roti
maker, as it is easy to use device.  Once roti cooks it automatically lifts
the upper head of the device and it makes sound  as it is getting filled
with  air and comes out by itself out of the device so you will know that it
is cooked.  

But, still, tawa roti is preferable and you can surely learn to make tawa
rotis with a little effort.

Suman

-Original Message-
From: Suman Dogra [mailto:sumanshar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 12:48 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: RE: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

I tried using one local brand last year for a few days.  You can cook good
rotis with a little practice.  
But due to electric charge these rotis cannot be kept for long as tawa
cooked rotis.  Either they dry out or they don't remain non eatable once
they become cold or kept for more than one hour or so.
Secondly even if you make rotis that are soft and fluffy, you will observe
that two or three rotis get attached to each other. They do not stay
separate from each other like tawa roti may be because of electric charge.
You can eat such rotis fresh only.
You will have to Apply oil or butter on them so they do not attach to each
other.
Also, stuffed paranthas could not be cooked properly on them though ad
exhibits that you can do so.  May be one has to learn how to cook aaloo  or
other stuffed paranthas on it.


Suman



  

   


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pawan Bundela
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 9:52 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hi all,
 Greetings for the day
I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
possible.
 so please let me know if some one of us using it. also let me know its
brand and moddle number.
Thanks and regards!
--
pawan Bundela
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+919029002476
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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread avinash shahi
I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
and dwelled upon in detail.
So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
consideration for me at least.

As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
 of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
 number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on
 January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)
(http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed
with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
where are blind people stand today.

Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and
Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We
blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And
Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing
herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in
private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs
working for/of blind,  call-centres and manufacturing units, are
least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in
general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are
much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of
disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred
dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm.
But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid.
That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course
DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind
people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians
along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and
contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian
State...

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
 Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into lacs!
 So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are
 blind,
 but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve
 great hights!
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Sameer
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals -
 Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


 Dear Ishita,

 I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
 completely

 blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other
 partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in
 Mumbai.

 Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the

 salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability 
 qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the
 private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is
 not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind
 employees adequately.

 I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind
 individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind
 individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
 sighted

 counterparts.

 Regards
 Mr. Sameer Latey,
 Mumbai, India


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[AI] Pratice ourself to make us independant

2014-07-03 Thread Saravanan
Dear friends,
I am Saravanan from bangalore.
I request our friends to provide valuble tips to make ourself to nake ourself 
independancy.
If any of you having any kind of materials to maintain independancy of VI 
person then Pls share them to me.
It will be helpful for all VI persons to improve their courage and stability.

Thanks
Saravanan.K
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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
I think the very fact we are all privilaged to be list members here, is good
enough to tell us that we are the ones who need to take the responsibility
of being that change that George has spoken about!
Let us at least start to think on these  lines and bring about small and
big changes into our own perceptions first! This shall than become the start
of a great revolution and  slowly life will become more normal for the
visually impaired!
Warmly
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:12 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Being blind is not the problem it is the perception and the understanding
about blindness that is the problem. We need to work on the perceptions.
Perception issues apply both to sighted people as well as blind people.

It is perception that impacts the kind of education that we blind people
have access to. It is perceptions that determines the way our parents
respond to our blindness. It is perception that determines how the society
responds to us. It is perception that defines how the Govt looks at us. I
can go on. Hence we need to address the perception issues. Further the
realities are known to us. We live in adynamic World and we , each of us
are dynamites potentially. We can be the change. While we acknowledge the
realities, our focus should be to be the change/make the change. The World
can be a better place  for all of us.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sameer
Sent: 03 July 2014 12:47
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals -
Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Dear Ishita, 

I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
completely 
blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other 
partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in 
Mumbai. 

Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the

salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability  
qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the 
private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is 
not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind 
employees adequately. 

I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind 
individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind 
individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
sighted 
counterparts.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India


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[AI] Bussiness for Vi Persons

2014-07-03 Thread Saravanan
Dear friends,
What are the business suitable for VI persons.
Is there any correspondence courses for giving guidance for Vi persons to run a 
stable business.
And is there any correspondence courses  offered by any NGO's or disablity 
rights organization to guide us in leading our life style with less troubles.
I am also inneed of Computer training coresspondance course for VI persons like 
jaws or nvda to make ourself educated in computer knowledge.

Thanks
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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread George Abraham
Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and
high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
and dwelled upon in detail.
So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
consideration for me at least.

As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
 of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
 number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on
 January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)
(http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-
but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed
with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
where are blind people stand today.

Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and
Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We
blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And
Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing
herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in
private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs
working for/of blind,  call-centres and manufacturing units, are
least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in
general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are
much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of
disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred
dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm.
But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid.
That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course
DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind
people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians
along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and
contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian
State...

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
 Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into lacs!
 So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are
 blind,
 but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve
 great hights!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
 Of Sameer
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals
-
 Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


 Dear Ishita,

 I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
 completely

 blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other
 partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in
 Mumbai.

 Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector,
the

 salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability 
 qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the
 private sector (myself included) 

Re: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-Probationary Officer Jobs/Apply Online

2014-07-03 Thread Sonu Golkar
Hi,

How many seats are reserve for PWD in in this notification?



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sakthi TAB
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:40 PM
To: brailleacl; braille...@gmail.com; Dedicated AccessIndia list for
discussing accessibility of mobile phones and Tabs.
Subject: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-Probationary Officer
Jobs/Apply Online

Bank of Baroda has issued Notification for Recruitment of 300
Probationary Officer in Junior Management  Grade/Scale-I Posts, the
eligible candidates can apply before 16th July 2014 through online.
Further details regarding  Fees, Pay Scale, notification file will be
available now here.
Important dates remember :
Opened Date of Online Application : 30th June 2014.
Closing date of online Application : 16th July 2014
Online Payment dates : 30th June to 16th July 2014.
Date of Call Letters Downloading : from 04th August 2014.
Tentative Written Examination : 14th August 2014.
Posts and Vacancy Details :
Sr.No.
Name of the Category
No. of posts
1
General
151
2
OBC
81
3
SC
45
4
ST
23
Education Qualifications :
Candidates should be qualified Bachelor Degree in any discipline with
60% marks aggregation (incase SC/ST Categories must have 55% marks
enough) from any recognized State/Central University.
Age Limit :
Minimum -20years
Maximum -28years. Upper age limit belonging categories of
SC/ST/Ex.serviceman including ECOs/SSCOs/Domiciled of JK/persons
affected by 198 riots -5years, OBC-3years  PWD- up to 10years
applicable )PWD (SC/ST-15years  OBC-13years).
Selection Process :
1.Examination
2.Interview
Application Fee :
Payment through Online Payment Method (using Debit/Credit /Master/Visa
cards).
Category Name
Application fee
General  others
Rs.550/-
SC/ST/PWD
Rs.50/-
Visit official Website
Download Official Notification file
Apply Online Here
How to Apply :
Candidates are required to apply online through Bank of Baroda
official website and online Registration completed on before
16/07/2014.


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Re: [AI] Suspicious URL:Re: Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-ProbationaryOfficer Jobs/Apply Online

2014-07-03 Thread Nikita Vaid
3 % seats (1 % each for VI, HI and OC) the reservation for PWD is on horizontal 
basis.

Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sonu Golkar
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:50 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Suspicious URL:Re: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 
2014-ProbationaryOfficer Jobs/Apply Online

Hi,

How many seats are reserve for PWD in in this notification?



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sakthi TAB
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:40 PM
To: brailleacl; braille...@gmail.com; Dedicated AccessIndia list for
discussing accessibility of mobile phones and Tabs.
Subject: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-Probationary Officer
Jobs/Apply Online

Bank of Baroda has issued Notification for Recruitment of 300
Probationary Officer in Junior Management  Grade/Scale-I Posts, the
eligible candidates can apply before 16th July 2014 through online.
Further details regarding  Fees, Pay Scale, notification file will be
available now here.
Important dates remember :
Opened Date of Online Application : 30th June 2014.
Closing date of online Application : 16th July 2014
Online Payment dates : 30th June to 16th July 2014.
Date of Call Letters Downloading : from 04th August 2014.
Tentative Written Examination : 14th August 2014.
Posts and Vacancy Details :
Sr.No.
Name of the Category
No. of posts
1
General
151
2
OBC
81
3
SC
45
4
ST
23
Education Qualifications :
Candidates should be qualified Bachelor Degree in any discipline with
60% marks aggregation (incase SC/ST Categories must have 55% marks
enough) from any recognized State/Central University.
Age Limit :
Minimum -20years
Maximum -28years. Upper age limit belonging categories of
SC/ST/Ex.serviceman including ECOs/SSCOs/Domiciled of JK/persons
affected by 198 riots -5years, OBC-3years  PWD- up to 10years
applicable )PWD (SC/ST-15years  OBC-13years).
Selection Process :
1.Examination
2.Interview
Application Fee :
Payment through Online Payment Method (using Debit/Credit /Master/Visa
cards).
Category Name
Application fee
General  others
Rs.550/-
SC/ST/PWD
Rs.50/-
Visit official Website
Download Official Notification file
Apply Online Here
How to Apply :
Candidates are required to apply online through Bank of Baroda
official website and online Registration completed on before
16/07/2014.


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Re: [AI] Suspicious URL:Re: Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-ProbationaryOfficer Jobs/Apply Online

2014-07-03 Thread Vikash Agarwal
Can PWD aged 40+ for HI can apply to recruit BOB 2014 Probationary officer.


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Nikita Vaid nikita.v...@bankofbaroda.com
wrote:

 3 % seats (1 % each for VI, HI and OC) the reservation for PWD is on
 horizontal basis.

 Thanks and warm Regards,
 Nikita V. Raut,
 Senior Manager [HR]
 Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Sonu Golkar
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:50 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Suspicious URL:Re: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment
 2014-ProbationaryOfficer Jobs/Apply Online

 Hi,

 How many seats are reserve for PWD in in this notification?



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Sakthi TAB
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:40 PM
 To: brailleacl; braille...@gmail.com; Dedicated AccessIndia list for
 discussing accessibility of mobile phones and Tabs.
 Subject: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-Probationary Officer
 Jobs/Apply Online

 Bank of Baroda has issued Notification for Recruitment of 300
 Probationary Officer in Junior Management  Grade/Scale-I Posts, the
 eligible candidates can apply before 16th July 2014 through online.
 Further details regarding  Fees, Pay Scale, notification file will be
 available now here.
 Important dates remember :
 Opened Date of Online Application : 30th June 2014.
 Closing date of online Application : 16th July 2014
 Online Payment dates : 30th June to 16th July 2014.
 Date of Call Letters Downloading : from 04th August 2014.
 Tentative Written Examination : 14th August 2014.
 Posts and Vacancy Details :
 Sr.No.
 Name of the Category
 No. of posts
 1
 General
 151
 2
 OBC
 81
 3
 SC
 45
 4
 ST
 23
 Education Qualifications :
 Candidates should be qualified Bachelor Degree in any discipline with
 60% marks aggregation (incase SC/ST Categories must have 55% marks
 enough) from any recognized State/Central University.
 Age Limit :
 Minimum -20years
 Maximum -28years. Upper age limit belonging categories of
 SC/ST/Ex.serviceman including ECOs/SSCOs/Domiciled of JK/persons
 affected by 198 riots -5years, OBC-3years  PWD- up to 10years
 applicable )PWD (SC/ST-15years  OBC-13years).
 Selection Process :
 1.Examination
 2.Interview
 Application Fee :
 Payment through Online Payment Method (using Debit/Credit /Master/Visa
 cards).
 Category Name
 Application fee
 General  others
 Rs.550/-
 SC/ST/PWD
 Rs.50/-
 Visit official Website
 Download Official Notification file
 Apply Online Here
 How to Apply :
 Candidates are required to apply online through Bank of Baroda
 official website and online Registration completed on before
 16/07/2014.


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Re: [AI] regarding job

2014-07-03 Thread Ganesh Babu
9611676784. i am staying in bangalore.

On 7/3/14, Ravi Verma verma88r...@gmail.com wrote:
 sir, my need your Contact no. . thank you


 On 7/2/14, Ganesh Babu jsspda.gan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Madam,
 PL update my job. I am waiting for your reply.With regards Ganesh



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[AI] Capacity Building Program for the Trainers of Persons with Vision Impairment

2014-07-03 Thread Yogesh Chhabra
as access india does not allow attachments, registration form can be
taken from NAB helpline, I.E. helpl...@nabdelhi.in

From: Dr. Homiyar Mobedji [mailto:homi...@enable-india.org]
Sent: 03 July 2014 12:41
To: Prashant Verma; Dipendra Minocha; Mozes Choudry Enable India
Cc: Dipesh Sutaria; Shanti Raghvan; daisyforumofin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Capacity Building Program for the Trainers of Persons with
Vision Impairment



Capacity Building Program for the Trainers of Persons with Vision Impairment



Conducted by Enable India and Hosted by NAB New Delhi.



Name of the course:

capacity building workshop for the Trainers of Persons with Vision Impairment

Duration:

10 days

Schedule:

18th to 27th august 2014.

No Holidays during the course.

Venue:

National Association for Blind (NAB),Sector 5, R K Puram,  New Delhi.



Fees:

•Rs. 1000/- to be paid on registering for the course.

•Rs. 500/- will be refunded on successful completion of the course.

•AC Dormitory Accommodation will be provided to Out
Station candidates only.

•Breakfast will be provided to Out Station candidates.

•Lunch will be provided for all candidates.

•Candidates will have to arrange for their own dinner.



After the training the trainers will be able to:

1. Trainers will be able to use the Enable India training content for
teaching computers, employability, and life skills.

2. Customize and prepare curriculum according to the requirements of
the training and candidates.

3. Prepare tactile diagrams to deliver computer training to the
visually impaired.

4.  Use assistive technology for their training and also be able to
teach the same.

5. Share our training methodology and how training environment is
important to make the candidates employable.



Introduction to the Program:

The TOT (Training of Trainer) program is being conducted for the
teachers/trainers of different schools, NGOs  individuals who will
provide training on Computers, Employability  Life Skills training
for visually impaired children  adults.



This program was launched to enhance the teaching skills of the
trainers in various aspects of computer skills, Employability  Life
Skills.



Conceptual Background:

IT and computers is the biggest enabler for the educated persons with
vision impairment. It has a deeper impact for the persons with vision
impairment than for persons without disability.

Computer education for the persons with vision impairment enables them
in their basic education, higher education, research, daily living and
employment.

Along with academic qualification, a student would have to possess
many other skills for the job like technical skills, right attitude,
exposure to real world, job  work environment awareness, overcoming
disability, handling stress, managing conflict etc.  Candidates those
who possess these skills are called as “EMPLOYABLE” candidates.



In the present scenario we see many candidates who have good academic
qualifications are not necessarily “EMPLOYABLE” candidates.

When it comes to a person with disability the challenges are more. In
the current competitive job market the person with disability need to
be more efficient, with excellent skills set, attitude to overcome
disability, exposure to right assistive aids  solutions etc. to
become employable.



EnAble India has designed  developed courses on Computers,
Employability and Life Skills for visually impaired to make the
candidate a finished product. This course is derived from 14+ years of
EnAble India’s experience in training  employment of persons with
disabilities.



The TOT program aims at building the capacity of the trainers of
various institutions/NGOs/Schools to conduct the Computer,
Employability  Life Skills courses effectively. The Tot serves as an
orientation to the teaching methodology, best practices in
employability training, teaching aids and tools used in the training.



How to Register:



Those participants who wish to register for this programme are
requested to fill up the form attached with this mail and send it back
to:

mo...@enable-india.org

and

pr_ve...@hotmail.com



Please send a cheque / DD worth Rs. 1000/-, in favour of “Enable
India”, payable Bangalore; along with the printed copy of the
Registration form duly filled to the following address:

Enable India,

#12 Ground Floor,

KHB Colony,

Bramha Kumari Road,

8th Block

Kormangala.

Bangalore-560095.

Tel: 080-42823636



Note: Registrations will not be confirmed till receipt of Registration fees.



Please note that due to limited seats, preference will be given on a
first come first serve basis.



Last date for registering is 10th August 2014.



For any further clarifications you may call Mr. Moses on 09535344816.

With Best Regards,

Dr. Homiyar Mobedji,

Director - Projects.



Mobile: +91 7875466344

+91 7259130965

E-mail: homi...@enable-india.org

dr.homi...@gmail.com

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[AI] Cornia stem cell break through

2014-07-03 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Scientists regrow human corneas from adult stem cells | Business Standard News
http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/scientists-regrow-human-corneas-from-adult-stem-cells-114070300560_1.html


In a breakthrough, scientists have successfully regrown human corneas
from an extremely rare kind of adult stem cell harvested from deceased
donors.

Researchers identified a way to enhance regrowth of human corneal
tissue to restore vision, using a molecule known as ABCB5 that acts as
a marker for hard-to-find limbal stem cells.

Limbal stem cells - identified with a new marker - could reverse a
leading cause of blindness, researchers said.

The research at the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Research Institute
provides promise to burn victims, victims of chemical injury and
others with damaging eye diseases.

It is also one of the first known examples of constructing a tissue
from an adult-derived human stem cell.

Limbal stem cells reside in the eye's basal limbal epithelium, or
limbus, and help maintain and regenerate corneal tissue.

Their loss due to injury or disease is one of the leading causes of
blindness. In the past, tissue or cell transplants have been used to
help the cornea regenerate, but it was unknown whether there were
actual limbal stem cells in the grafts, or how many, and the outcomes
were not consistent.

In the study, researchers were able to use antibodies detecting ABCB5
to zero in on the stem cells in tissue from deceased human donors and
use them to regrow anatomically correct, fully functional human
corneas in mice.

Limbal stem cells are very rare, and successful transplants are
dependent on these rare cells, said Bruce Ksander, co-lead author on
the study with post-doctoral fellow Paraskevi Kolovou.

This finding will now make it much easier to restore the corneal
surface. It's a very good example of basic research moving quickly to
a translational application, said Ksander.

ABCB5 was originally discovered in the lab of Markus Frank, of Boston
Children's Hospital, and Natasha Frank, of the VA Boston Healthcare
System and Brigham and Women's Hospital, co-senior investigators on
the study, as being produced in tissue precursor cells in human skin
and intestine.

In the new work, using a mouse model developed by the Frank lab, they
found that ABCB5 also occurs in limbal stem cells and is required for
their maintenance and survival, and for corneal development and
repair.

Mice lacking a functional ABCB5 gene lost their populations of limbal
stem cells, and their corneas healed poorly after injury.

ABCB5 allows limbal stem cells to survive, protecting them from
apoptosis [programmed cell death], said Frank.

The mouse model allowed us for the first time to understand the role
of ABCB5 in normal development, and should be very important to the
stem cell field in general, said Natasha.

The research was published in the journal Nature.






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Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread Ashik
Yes Preeti. What you said was out of your experience. But your expressing it 
in a light way did not fare well with the beginner of the thread. However, 
there was nothing in the mail that should have offended him. Probably he is 
too serious to stomach such fun.

Ashik Hirani
09428855867
- Original Message - 
From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged


You are most welcome! You can be as rude as you like, no problem!
Now if you read my mail  properly, I mentioned something that you probbably
did not understand! I said that to use a roti maker there are so many steps
and troubles that it will defeat the very   purpose of saving  time!
Looking after the roti maker, cleaning the same and maintaining  it is
something that you may like to consider. That was why I even bothered to
respond to your mail.
Do accept my humble appology if you got offended.
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pawan Bundela
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:00 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:

Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!

Just for fun... ha ha!

I don't think there is a roti maker that is accessible. And it is easier

to

make them yourself for the clean up and assembly takes so much work and
time
and then how does one keep the cockroaches away?

Just kneed the atta and get going!
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

Behalf

Of Pawan Bundela
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:52 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hi all,
 Greetings for the day
I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
possible.
 so please let me know if some one of us using it. also let me know
its brand and moddle number.
Thanks and regards!
--
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Cell:  +919870873960,
+919029002476
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pawan@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

2014-07-03 Thread Zoher Kheriwala
Do log in with www.irctc.co.inand not with https://nget.irctc.co.in.
it will resolve the problem of captcha on log in page.
You will be presented with new page.
On this page if you want to book the new ticket click on the link say
something like beta booking 1 or something like that.
Again you are presented with new page fill in the details of from and
to stations.
For date you will land on read only edit field, rute jaws to pc by
pressing incert+-  and left click by pressing / key on numpad.
again ectivate vertual curser by pressing + button.
now refresh the page by pressing the incert+escape. you will be
presented with the calander in tabuler format go to disired date and
again rute jaws to pc and click on the date .
again activate pc curser and note the date will be filled.

On 7/1/14, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello,
 EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
 TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
 their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
 customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
 new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
 as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
 this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
 available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
 forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
 plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
 all.

 before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
 could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
 the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.

 so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar field?
 thanks,

 On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
 needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?

 I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
 but to no avail.
 Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
 when I click on graphic calendar link.

 Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
 calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.

 Will be a great cue to save my time.

 Thanks
 Thank





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[AI] Jaws is reading twice in MS word

2014-07-03 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
I am using MS word 2007, If I am reading sentence by sentence by
pressing alt+down arrow key or paragraph by paragraph , jaws is
reading each sentence and each para twice. However if I read line by
line by pressing down arrow, it reads only once. But I like to read
either sentence by sentence or by paragraph. Is there any solution?

-- 
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M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India
Phone: 09811767506,
09211400800/ 926800
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Re: [AI] . Re: myquriyocityare normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Jalajakumari


I had seen so many mails in this topic. Here is the answer , whether blind 
or sighted understanding is the only matter for success. In my case I got 
married to a sighted person,  and till date no misunderstanding occurred 
between us. My spouse is working on rehabilitation of alcoholics and I too 
work in rehabilitation of VI,  and if a VI person comes to his way who needs 
support he directs to me and same from my part also. Regarding family 
matters I will not put extra burden on him eventhough I am VI. We adopted a 
baby girl around 3 yrs back and all caring for the child is done alone by me 
from the age of 11 mths. and now she is in L K G ,of course Visual 
impairement produce little bit uneasiness for us but majority of success 
depends upon our attittude and courage to face problems . Always keeping the 
remote control of our mind with us is very essential in my point of view


   Regards
   Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S
   Civil surgeon  and M.O. In charge
   Kerala state health 
ces  --

From: Nitin nitinzd1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:11 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: 
myquriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is the mail 
from the chain I liked too much!!!
I fully agree with the guy's views. The boy is partially sighted and 
married to a blind girl. The same thing should happened what I feel. 
Partially boy should marry to blind girl and Partially girl should marry 
to blind boy. I do understand it is depend on person to person and theirs 
attitude. I don't want to say that blind boy should not marry to sighted 
and vice versa. If some how blind gets a sighted partner and there is well 
understanding between them then nothing like it


Kaka, you may like to read the story. Great learning for VIs!
http://retinaindia.blogspot.in/2011/11/of-disclosing-disability-before.html

Kind Regards,
Nitin

--
From: Prashant Verma prashant...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my 
quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion 
has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything

on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views.



Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario.



The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are 
not

willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be 
ready

to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors 
desire

sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of 
the
root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents 
also

want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a 
visually

impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. 
Finally
they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally 
seen

to be more open minded and accommodating.



It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
time will increase chances of finding partners.



I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.



-Original Message-

From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are 
valid.


I have 40 percent vision.

And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in 
dream

unless he has social or economical problems.

In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any
girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money 

Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-03 Thread Aravind R
don't be cheated by these kind of tricks. what will government do by
getting our password? its just a trick by somebody to hack our email
account.
in my bank, last week, a customer was cheated by one person, who
called disguised as a banker, gave some valid reason, asked his ATM
card number, pin and cvr number. then he used those details to use
that customer's  card virtually online and purchase around rs 12000.
since customer thought, his pin and cvr number is useless without the
presents of physical card, he got cheated. so don't share any
password.

On 7/3/14, Manish Agarwal manish.agarwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks to all.

 On 7/3/14, SC Vashishth subhashvashis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes to  R C Gupta's mail that any person or department can not demand
 any
 type of password




 On 3 July 2014 10:52, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 wrote:

 But Kanchan said 'yes'?
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SC Vashishth
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

 Manish,

 No department or bank will ask you the password of your email or
 internet
 banking. Bank gives option to update the email ids in online banking
 accounts  but never sends an email seeking password.

 Beware of unscrupulous elements.




 On 3 July 2014 09:11, Manish Agarwal manish.agarwal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  good morning to all,
  i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
  department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
  along with the password.
  is it correct.
  pls shed some light.
  thank u.
 
  --
  consulting  practicing physiotherapy(v.i.)
  mobile:-09322896185
  email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
  skype-id:manish.agarwal56
 
 
 


 --
 Warm regards,

 Subhash Chandra Vashishth
 Adv
 Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider
 environment!


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 Warm regards,

 Subhash Chandra Vashishth
 Adv
 Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider
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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread avinash shahi
You are right sir.
But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to
35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and
invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal
has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities.
On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and
 high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..!

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of avinash shahi
 Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
 individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
 and dwelled upon in detail.
 So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
 consideration for me at least.

 As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
 the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
  of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
  number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on
  January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)
 (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-
 but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
 Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
 India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed
 with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
 persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
 unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
 identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
 where are blind people stand today.

 Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
 private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
 dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
 accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
 a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
 accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and
 Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We
 blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And
 Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing
 herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in
 private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs
 working for/of blind,  call-centres and manufacturing units, are
 least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in
 general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are
 much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of
 disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred
 dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm.
 But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid.
 That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course
 DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind
 people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians
 along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and
 contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian
 State...

  On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
 Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into lacs!
 So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are
 blind,
 but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve
 great hights!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



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 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Sameer
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals
 -
 Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


 Dear Ishita,

 I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
 completely

 blind  will be joining 

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread avinash shahi
Rajesh sir this particular mail of yours encourages to read.
Amartya Sen and Martha C Nusbaum again and again... Right to demand
fareness. and state has a duty to enhance capabilities of persons with
disabilities because they are unequal by birth or become late in
life...
On 7/3/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 getting upset?
 again what we call in psychology, the intentional fallacy!

 You had yourself writtten if I remember correctly that you are yet to figure
 out what is this thing called love!!!
 I am not being personal, just giving cross references and pointing out
 contradictions...

 So, I maintain that love is not unconditional, and it has to be
 operationally defined.
 I think Avinash had asked me in sayeverything convention this question and I
 could not reply due to time constraints.

 So, a blind spouse does put some additional liabilities on the non-blind
 partner, which is but fair only.
 Of course, we cannot and should not depend for all visual matters on our
 non-blind partner, but as he/she is our life partner, we have every right to
 expect a lion's share when it comes to visual tasks.

 I don't know why all this fuss is made about being equal and all.
 We are blind, so are not equal.
 We have every right to demand ffairness, our blindness relevantly
 considered.
 But, why do we expect super average performance from a blind person, be it
 in marriage or otherwise?
 A blind person has a right to be an average person, me thinks.
 Both the blind partners Marrying each other, requires a great courage, which
 is fortunately not lacking either, and my own two elder blind sisters have
 shown it, as have countless other couples.
 But, mobility, money, social support and a host of other factors take on a
 much significant role then.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:24 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 I love my second  husband so I make sure I provide all the services to him
 unconditionally and so does he! I did not  ultimately love my first husband,
 for we did not share similar values, so I refused to provide any service to
 him and left him after trying to make all amends for 11 years.
 And it is  very interesting that you are getting all upset about this
 discussion. Don't as you will read George has summed up in a very fine
 manner,  there is no perfect recipie for marriage. We just have to see what
 works for us!
 Warmly
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:54 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 Marrying a service provider?
 yes, we all want life partners, but it is also the bitter truth that love is
 not unconditional.
 You yourself had written that you make sure that your husband has proper
 meals.
 So, isn't it service providing?
 if you want to term works done by spouses for one another and family, as
 providing service, then fine.
 everybody needs service providers.
 If one of the spouses is blind, services provided by other spouse would
 surely be much more.
 If both are blind, they will have to invariably hire many services, which a
 sighted spouse could have provided free of cost.
 So, I always say, as one of my friend puts it, money matters, but it matters
 much more for us, the blind...


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:36 AM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too,
 but replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the
 kindness!
 You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social
 thing, but 

Re: [AI] A query on request notification in skype.

2014-07-03 Thread Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu
hello coleagues,
Skype is installed by default along with windows 8.1.  Please suggest
me how to access the Skype? Where to install scripts for jaws
15.0.9023?
Janardhana Naidu
On 7/2/14, surendra salgaonkar surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using 4.2.1 device, now how to set RingTone? I miss my Skype call all
 the time.
 Please reply
 Thanks.

 On Jul 2, 2014 8:39 PM, Balaraman balaramacc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 My doubt is, how can we get to a request notification in skype.
 People send me add contact request and I miss them.
 Is there any keystroke in skype with jaws scripts to get to such
 notifications?
 Your answers are highly appreciated!

 Regards,

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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Ganesh Babu
Dear madam/sir
I am glad to share my thought to accessindian, if you want marry to
sighted pl understand their mentality, because they will be having
their comfort. I will share important matter to accessindia, saying
that one girl got married to sighted person in karnataka, that guy is
sighted, after leading 1 year life he killed blind girl. her name is
tulsi. she was working jss. if you want marry sighted person pl be
educated first. it is easy to get marry sighted but after leading life
they dnt understand blind problem.
With regards Ganesh



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Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-03 Thread Arjun Malhotra
This is an attempt of social engeneering. Don't be fooled by such information.

On 7/3/14, Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com wrote:
 don't be cheated by these kind of tricks. what will government do by
 getting our password? its just a trick by somebody to hack our email
 account.
 in my bank, last week, a customer was cheated by one person, who
 called disguised as a banker, gave some valid reason, asked his ATM
 card number, pin and cvr number. then he used those details to use
 that customer's  card virtually online and purchase around rs 12000.
 since customer thought, his pin and cvr number is useless without the
 presents of physical card, he got cheated. so don't share any
 password.

 On 7/3/14, Manish Agarwal manish.agarwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks to all.

 On 7/3/14, SC Vashishth subhashvashis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes to  R C Gupta's mail that any person or department can not demand
 any
 type of password




 On 3 July 2014 10:52, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 wrote:

 But Kanchan said 'yes'?
 Preeti

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 Director



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 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SC Vashishth
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

 Manish,

 No department or bank will ask you the password of your email or
 internet
 banking. Bank gives option to update the email ids in online banking
 accounts  but never sends an email seeking password.

 Beware of unscrupulous elements.




 On 3 July 2014 09:11, Manish Agarwal manish.agarwal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  good morning to all,
  i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
  department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
  along with the password.
  is it correct.
  pls shed some light.
  thank u.
 
  --
  consulting  practicing physiotherapy(v.i.)
  mobile:-09322896185
  email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
  skype-id:manish.agarwal56
 
 
 


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 Adv
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 nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

 r. aravind,

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 mobile no: +91 

Re: [AI] A query on request notification in skype.

2014-07-03 Thread timy
hello friend iam also using windows 8.1 so, I would suggest you to 
please go to,


http://www.dlee.org/skype/?JFWVersion=1509023ScriptVersion=6.9aScriptRevision=813BrailleDisplay=vcBrailleSkypeProgramDate=20140508SkypeProgramVersion=6.16.0.105WindowsOSVersion=3SkypeWatch=2SRProblem=0SkypeUserName=timyseba

and download the latest version of skype script from there and simplly 
install it, it will work for you.


Thanks in advance,

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Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-03 Thread surendra salgaonkar
Dear ones,
yesterday there was a discussion going on IBM aavaj on 7PM.  I miss
bit can someone call and ask its repeated today at what time to be?
Secondly, ITD does not ask about your internet banking password, but
they want separte mailID to be use for the all purpose.
Thirdly, may I take an opportunity to ask, ones it is return file
submission, is there any chance to change and interference? Because I
forget to mention something.


On 7/3/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is an attempt of social engeneering. Don't be fooled by such
 information.

 On 7/3/14, Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com wrote:
 don't be cheated by these kind of tricks. what will government do by
 getting our password? its just a trick by somebody to hack our email
 account.
 in my bank, last week, a customer was cheated by one person, who
 called disguised as a banker, gave some valid reason, asked his ATM
 card number, pin and cvr number. then he used those details to use
 that customer's  card virtually online and purchase around rs 12000.
 since customer thought, his pin and cvr number is useless without the
 presents of physical card, he got cheated. so don't share any
 password.

 On 7/3/14, Manish Agarwal manish.agarwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks to all.

 On 7/3/14, SC Vashishth subhashvashis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes to  R C Gupta's mail that any person or department can not demand
 any
 type of password




 On 3 July 2014 10:52, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 wrote:

 But Kanchan said 'yes'?
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting.
 Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
 Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including
 demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SC Vashishth
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

 Manish,

 No department or bank will ask you the password of your email or
 internet
 banking. Bank gives option to update the email ids in online banking
 accounts  but never sends an email seeking password.

 Beware of unscrupulous elements.




 On 3 July 2014 09:11, Manish Agarwal manish.agarwal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  good morning to all,
  i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
  department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
  along with the password.
  is it correct.
  pls shed some light.
  thank u.
 
  --
  consulting  practicing physiotherapy(v.i.)
  mobile:-09322896185
  email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
  skype-id:manish.agarwal56
 
 
 


 --
 Warm regards,

 Subhash Chandra Vashishth
 Adv
 Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider
 environment!


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 Subhash Chandra Vashishth
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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread B. R. Nautial
Of course! The topic is important in terms of our life but most of the
people have already shared different views on the matter, so it's better to
form a new group for all these issues instead of discussing on this forum,
which was created to discuss accessibility, technical issues etc.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ganesh Babu
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:15 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
marrying blind partners?

Dear madam/sir
I am glad to share my thought to accessindian, if you want marry to
sighted pl understand their mentality, because they will be having
their comfort. I will share important matter to accessindia, saying
that one girl got married to sighted person in karnataka, that guy is
sighted, after leading 1 year life he killed blind girl. her name is
tulsi. she was working jss. if you want marry sighted person pl be
educated first. it is easy to get marry sighted but after leading life
they dnt understand blind problem.
With regards Ganesh



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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Aravind R
don't generalise things by seeing one normal buy killing his blind
wife.  good and bad people coexists in all kinds of communities
irrespective off blind or normal. its in our hands to understand and
choose right partners.

On 7/4/14, B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com wrote:
 Of course! The topic is important in terms of our life but most of the
 people have already shared different views on the matter, so it's better to
 form a new group for all these issues instead of discussing on this forum,
 which was created to discuss accessibility, technical issues etc.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Ganesh Babu
 Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:15 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 Dear madam/sir
 I am glad to share my thought to accessindian, if you want marry to
 sighted pl understand their mentality, because they will be having
 their comfort. I will share important matter to accessindia, saying
 that one girl got married to sighted person in karnataka, that guy is
 sighted, after leading 1 year life he killed blind girl. her name is
 tulsi. she was working jss. if you want marry sighted person pl be
 educated first. it is easy to get marry sighted but after leading life
 they dnt understand blind problem.
 With regards Ganesh



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Re: [AI] hi jst wanted to know that wather black bari comes with talking softwere preloded

2014-07-03 Thread ghs.tilakna...@gmail.com
-Original Message-
From: harbhajan singh
Sent:  27.06.2014, 9:53  am
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] hi jst wanted to know that wather black bari comes with 
talking softwere preloded


hai it has already been discussed that blackberry has integrated
screen reader in its phones running OS 10.2.1.  I got a chance to see
blackberry z10 running screen reader on it.  phone's menu and all the
other stuff was accessible but I found the browser unaccessible.
however, it must be notted that bb screen reader is still in its
developer form so it may take some time to become fully accessible
regards
harbhajan singh.

On 25/06/2014, suhas J suhasj...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi suhas namboodiri again friends as u all know that phone with talks
 will become a old story so i wanted to knw that black has it if yes
 then it will b a very big relife for the blind



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[AI] contact of anyone working in indian overseas bank

2014-07-03 Thread Aartee Agarwal
hello friends,good morning a friend of mine is recruited in Indian
overseas bank as officer.. if anyone is working pl contact me
8937000681
aarteeagarwal.1...@gmail.com



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Re: [AI] for vedic mathamatics

2014-07-03 Thread Akash Gupta
dear mohit,

you can download some short notes on vedic mathamatics on this link

http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com/ebooks.htm

I couldn't find any other accessible book for the same. But in print
there are  various books including vedic geomatry, vedic algebra and
arthmatics etc.

Thank you.

On 03/07/2014, Mohit Gupta mohitchan...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear compitition exams asparints,
 All student of this category have to solve mathamatical problems in
 mind during the examination hour. I search on google about vedic
 mathamatics techniques. By which we can solve multiplication and other
 operations easily and very fast.
 Does anyone has these  techniques books in accessible format? In the
 market and online stores have many and many books but how we can read
 and learn them.

 Thank you.
 --
 Thanks and Regards,
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Re: [AI] for vedic mathamatics

2014-07-03 Thread Nirmal Verma
There are none in accessible format. Quicker maths recorded by NAB is
terrible and difficult to understand.
Try some foreign authors books or videos on quicker maths. There are many
on youtube.

Nirmal
On Jul 3, 2014 12:41 PM, Mohit Gupta mohitchan...@gmail.com wrote:

 dear compitition exams asparints,
 All student of this category have to solve mathamatical problems in
 mind during the examination hour. I search on google about vedic
 mathamatics techniques. By which we can solve multiplication and other
 operations easily and very fast.
 Does anyone has these  techniques books in accessible format? In the
 market and online stores have many and many books but how we can read
 and learn them.

 Thank you.
 --
 Thanks and Regards,
 Mohit Gupta.
 Rajasthan.



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[AI] 30 math tricks for fast calculations on YouTube

2014-07-03 Thread Nirmal Verma
Hello friends

Please see this video. If you find it usefull then download it for personal
use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcV4TPbMUiQfeature=youtube_gdata_player

Nirmal


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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
I know Avinash,  it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for
them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the  female
blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of
going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I
can't even begin to write about their state! It has  torne me apart! The
female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind?

Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I
can with the limited or should I say no  resources!
Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere
will turn up and conditions will begin to improve!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

You are right sir.
But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to
35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and
invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal
has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities.
On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education
and
 high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..!

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
 Of avinash shahi
 Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
 individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
 and dwelled upon in detail.
 So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
 consideration for me at least.

 As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
 the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
  of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
  number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on
  January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)

(http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-
 but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
 Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
 India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed
 with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
 persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
 unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
 identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
 where are blind people stand today.

 Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
 private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
 dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
 accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
 a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
 accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and
 Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We
 blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And
 Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing
 herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in
 private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs
 working for/of blind,  call-centres and manufacturing units, are
 least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in
 general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are
 much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of
 disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred
 dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm.
 But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid.
 That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course
 DIGNITY. Lastly, no 

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-03 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
of course, avinash..
rightly so..


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:20 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Rajesh sir this particular mail of yours encourages to read.
Amartya Sen and Martha C Nusbaum again and again... Right to demand
fareness. and state has a duty to enhance capabilities of persons with
disabilities because they are unequal by birth or become late in
life...
On 7/3/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 getting upset?
 again what we call in psychology, the intentional fallacy!

 You had yourself writtten if I remember correctly that you are yet to figure
 out what is this thing called love!!!
 I am not being personal, just giving cross references and pointing out
 contradictions...

 So, I maintain that love is not unconditional, and it has to be
 operationally defined.
 I think Avinash had asked me in sayeverything convention this question and I
 could not reply due to time constraints.

 So, a blind spouse does put some additional liabilities on the non-blind
 partner, which is but fair only.
 Of course, we cannot and should not depend for all visual matters on our
 non-blind partner, but as he/she is our life partner, we have every right to
 expect a lion's share when it comes to visual tasks.

 I don't know why all this fuss is made about being equal and all.
 We are blind, so are not equal.
 We have every right to demand ffairness, our blindness relevantly
 considered.
 But, why do we expect super average performance from a blind person, be it
 in marriage or otherwise?
 A blind person has a right to be an average person, me thinks.
 Both the blind partners Marrying each other, requires a great courage, which
 is fortunately not lacking either, and my own two elder blind sisters have
 shown it, as have countless other couples.
 But, mobility, money, social support and a host of other factors take on a
 much significant role then.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:24 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 I love my second  husband so I make sure I provide all the services to him
 unconditionally and so does he! I did not  ultimately love my first husband,
 for we did not share similar values, so I refused to provide any service to
 him and left him after trying to make all amends for 11 years.
 And it is  very interesting that you are getting all upset about this
 discussion. Don't as you will read George has summed up in a very fine
 manner,  there is no perfect recipie for marriage. We just have to see what
 works for us!
 Warmly
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:54 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in
 marrying blind partners?

 Marrying a service provider?
 yes, we all want life partners, but it is also the bitter truth that love is
 not unconditional.
 You yourself had written that you make sure that your husband has proper
 meals.
 So, isn't it service providing?
 if you want to term works done by spouses for one another and family, as
 providing service, then fine.
 everybody needs service providers.
 If one of the spouses is blind, services provided by other spouse would
 surely be much more.
 If both are blind, they will have to invariably hire many services, which a
 sighted spouse could have provided free of cost.
 So, I always say, as one of my friend puts it, money matters, but it matters
 much more for us, the blind...


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:36 AM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing 

Re: [AI] . Re: myquriyocityare normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Great Dr. Jalaja! I am so delighted to hear from you here. Wonderful just
keep going!
Preeti 

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Jalajakumari
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:00 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: myquriyocityare
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


I had seen so many mails in this topic. Here is the answer , whether blind 
or sighted understanding is the only matter for success. In my case I got 
married to a sighted person,  and till date no misunderstanding occurred 
between us. My spouse is working on rehabilitation of alcoholics and I too 
work in rehabilitation of VI,  and if a VI person comes to his way who needs

support he directs to me and same from my part also. Regarding family 
matters I will not put extra burden on him eventhough I am VI. We adopted a 
baby girl around 3 yrs back and all caring for the child is done alone by me

from the age of 11 mths. and now she is in L K G ,of course Visual 
impairement produce little bit uneasiness for us but majority of success 
depends upon our attittude and courage to face problems . Always keeping the

remote control of our mind with us is very essential in my point of view

Regards
Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S
Civil surgeon  and M.O. In charge
Kerala state health 
ces  --
From: Nitin nitinzd1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:11 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re:
myquriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is the
mail from the chain I liked too much!!!
 I fully agree with the guy's views. The boy is partially sighted and 
 married to a blind girl. The same thing should happened what I feel. 
 Partially boy should marry to blind girl and Partially girl should marry 
 to blind boy. I do understand it is depend on person to person and theirs 
 attitude. I don't want to say that blind boy should not marry to sighted 
 and vice versa. If some how blind gets a sighted partner and there is well

 understanding between them then nothing like it

 Kaka, you may like to read the story. Great learning for VIs!

http://retinaindia.blogspot.in/2011/11/of-disclosing-disability-before.html

 Kind Regards,
 Nitin

 --
 From: Prashant Verma prashant...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my 
 quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion

 has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are 
 not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be 
 ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors 
 desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of 
 the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents 
 also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
 partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a 
 visually
 impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



 When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
 caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



 I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
 around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
 marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. 
 Finally
 they have to make comprimises. Girls 

[AI] FW: DRG urges Finance Minister to increase Income Tax rebate

2014-07-03 Thread Suhas Karnik

Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:01:05 +0530
Subject: DRG urges Finance Minister to increase Income Tax rebate
From: dnis.in...@gmail.com
To: 

Dear All,
Disabled Rights Group (DRG) has written to the Finance Minister, Shri Arun 
Jaitley to look at disability in the upcoming Union Budget and to increase the 
Income Tax deductions for people with disabilities. The text of the letter is 
copy pasted below. A PDF is also enclosed.



We are following up on this and are hopeful that the Hon'ble Minister would 
give due consideration to the long standing demand from the sector.-- 
Communication Unit: 
National Centre for Promotion of Employment for Disabled People (NCPEDP)



A -77, South Extension Part II
New Delhi - 110 049, India
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the outset, please accept our congratulations on your new role.

 

As
you are aware, Disabled Rights Group (DRG) is a non-political and informal
alliance of people with disabilities, families, experts and disability
organisations advocating for legislative and policy changes vis-à-vis
disability.

 

Sir,
as you prepare towards presenting the Union Budget in a few days, we urge you
to please consider disability as an area where much can be done.  One of the 
long standing demands of the
disability sector has been to increase the deduction in Income Tax from Rs.
50,000/- to 1,00,000/- for persons with disabilities or those who have
dependents with disabilities; and in case of people with severe disabilities,
from Rs. 1,00,000/- to Rs. 2,00,000/-.



The cost of living is generally higher for those living with disabilities
compared to those without disabilities – medical expenditure, cost of
care-taker, assistive aids, rehabilitation services, home adaptations,
transportations and costs on day to day living. The cost of these services have
and are continuing to increase quite steeply in the recent years. Further,
unavailability of insurance or higher premiums, barriers in accessing
education, getting a job, finding a house on rent, participating in economic
and social activities – all result in significantly higher costs.

 

The
current tax rebate happened more than 10 years ago in 2003, when the deduction
was increased from Rs 40,000/- to 50,000/- for persons with disabilities and
those with dependents with disability; and an enhanced deduction of Rs 75,000/-
was introduced in case of people with severe disability. The last revision was
in 2009 when the rebate was increased to Rs, 1,00,000/- for people with severe
disabilities. Since, then there has not been any revision. 

 

Sir,
you would agree that given the increased cost of living, these deductions
should keep pace with the increasing costs in general and disability induced
costs in particular.

 

We
hope that you will consider our request favourably. We will be happy to provide
more details if you so desire.

 

We
look forward to hearing positively from your office.

 

With
best regards,

 

Yours
sincerely,




 Javed
Abidi

Convenor

 

Shri Arun Jaitley

Hon’ble Minister of Finance

North Block, New Delhi -110001



  


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Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-03 Thread Preeti Monga
Its fine dear! No trouble, I love fun and so am always prepared to handle
some kick backs!
Anyway, ultimately Pawan and I are now friends... great no?

Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ashik
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:20 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Yes Preeti. What you said was out of your experience. But your expressing it

in a light way did not fare well with the beginner of the thread. However, 
there was nothing in the mail that should have offended him. Probably he is 
too serious to stomach such fun.
Ashik Hirani
09428855867
- Original Message - 
From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged


You are most welcome! You can be as rude as you like, no problem!
Now if you read my mail  properly, I mentioned something that you probbably
did not understand! I said that to use a roti maker there are so many steps
and troubles that it will defeat the very   purpose of saving  time!
Looking after the roti maker, cleaning the same and maintaining  it is
something that you may like to consider. That was why I even bothered to
respond to your mail.
 Do accept my humble appology if you got offended.
Warmly
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pawan Bundela
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:00 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!

 Just for fun... ha ha!

 I don't think there is a roti maker that is accessible. And it is easier
to
 make them yourself for the clean up and assembly takes so much work and
 time
 and then how does one keep the cockroaches away?

 Just kneed the atta and get going!
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
 Of Pawan Bundela
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:52 AM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

 Hi all,
  Greetings for the day
 I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
 the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
 

Re: [AI] contact of anyone working in indian overseas bank

2014-07-03 Thread vivek doddamani
I know one friend Mr.Manphool Sing working as stenographer in Indian
Overseas Bank since 17 years in Delhi, presently posted in Rohini
Sector 5 branch his mob number - 9868953133

On 7/4/14, Aartee Agarwal aarteeagarwal.1...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends,good morning a friend of mine is recruited in Indian
 overseas bank as officer.. if anyone is working pl contact me
 8937000681
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