date:20170523

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Reynolds

Because UBNT believes (I didn't say "executes", I said "believes") in
strong multi-product integration... aka their monitoring system(s).

It drives me nuts as well.

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware versions do these
> things only speak SNMPv1 and not v2c?
>
> I am in the process of going through the AF5 MIB and snmpwalking an AF5 to
> build a customer data acquisition template for it, and am truly perplexed.
>
>

[AFMUG] market value of a used AF24 link

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke

What's the going market value for a used but known good, working, firmware
updated AF24 link?

Re: [AFMUG] 7 mile radio link

2017-05-23 Thread Colin Stanners

If the AF3x isn't working well, try the AF2x or a PTP450i 900mhz?

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Looking for suggestions for a 7 mile, point to point radio link through
> some heavy trees (within 500ft on one side). I'm currently using a Ubiquiti
> 3.65 radio set and it's working OK... but would like something better. Any
> thoughts?
>
> Travis
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Need some fiber LC breakout cables overnight

2017-05-23 Thread Colin Stanners

I gotchu fam (if my geography is right)

http://www.fiberopticcableproducts.com/fiber_optic_products_files/contact.htm

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Anybody know a west coast source than can still ship these?  Need 20 of
> these 12 fiber breakouts by tomorrow AM for a big splicing job.
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%
> 3Dlawngarden=LC+12+count+pigtail
>
>
>
> (Bare cable for splicing – to LC)
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Need some fiber LC breakout cables overnight

2017-05-23 Thread Trey Scarborough

Sorry didn't read this till now. I have almost that many, but probably 
not all you need. I would try http://www.galaxyee.com they usually have 
that stuff in stock at a decent price.


On 5/23/2017 4:01 PM, Paul McCall wrote:


Anybody know a west coast source than can still ship these?  Need 20 
of these 12 fiber breakouts by tomorrow AM for a big splicing job.


https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dlawngarden=LC+12+count+pigtail

(Bare cable for splicing ï¿½ to LC)

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett

Because Ubiquiti doesn't care. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Eric Kuhnke"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:56:35 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team... 



Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware versions do these things 
only speak SNMPv1 and not v2c? 

I am in the process of going through the AF5 MIB and snmpwalking an AF5 to 
build a customer data acquisition template for it, and am truly perplexed.

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Josh Luthman

Because AirOS is only snmpv1


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> We were just talking about that here. The only thing we can figure is that
> it is just not important to most of their customers.
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware versions do these
>> things only speak SNMPv1 and not v2c?
>>
>> I am in the process of going through the AF5 MIB and snmpwalking an AF5
>> to build a customer data acquisition template for it, and am truly
>> perplexed.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Bill Prince

We were just talking about that here. The only thing we can figure is that
it is just not important to most of their customers.

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware versions do these
> things only speak SNMPv1 and not v2c?
>
> I am in the process of going through the AF5 MIB and snmpwalking an AF5 to
> build a customer data acquisition template for it, and am truly perplexed.
>
>
>

-- 
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke

Get as much height as you can on at least one end. As chuck has pointed
out, an angle is better than something flat/parallel to the ocean. As much
angle in elevation aim on the radios as possible.

Of course sometimes this is not possible because the OSI layer 1 cost to
achieve additional height at one end could be a new $300,000 tower

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> I have about 0 experience doing uW hops over the ocean. Anyone have
> suggestions on best gear to use for ~12 miles over ocean, 1Gbps links?
> Wondering which radios hold up the best in that climate...tropics, island
> hops. I had a client ask so I thought I'd put it out to the borg.
>
> Cameron
>

[AFMUG] ubnt AF5/AF24 team...

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke

Why, in the year 2017, with the very latest firmware versions do these
things only speak SNMPv1 and not v2c?

I am in the process of going through the AF5 MIB and snmpwalking an AF5 to
build a customer data acquisition template for it, and am truly perplexed.

[AFMUG] Need some fiber LC breakout cables overnight

2017-05-23 Thread Paul McCall

Anybody know a west coast source than can still ship these?  Need 20 of these 
12 fiber breakouts by tomorrow AM for a big splicing job.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dlawngarden=LC+12+count+pigtail

(Bare cable for splicing - to LC)

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown

Well, I changed it from BigCommerce (big commissions too) to my own 
Wordpress/Woo Commerce implementation running on GoDaddy hosting.  So 
repeatedly swinging the DNS between those two may have confused some servers.  

I hope is will now stay put.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

TTLs.

It just shows you who hasn't been to your site lately.  :-p

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:32:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

Thanks everyone.  Seems Google DNS is not as monolithic as one would think.

-Original Message- 
From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

On 5/23/17 13:11, Chuck McCown wrote:
> This is the “new and improved” site.

I'm seeing the new one in Nevada. I use my own DNS.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread Lewis Bergman

The only difference between the menards and the stuff I use is mine is a
half inch wider. It is a it easier to use but I don't know if it is worth
the extra couple of bucks. I can't find where I saw that 3" stuff at all.

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:09 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> I still use some 4:1 adhesive lined heat-shrink on difficult connectors,
> like the 3GHz 450 antenna ports because they're so awkwardly close
> together. But I stopped using it on the radio side because we've had so
> many 450 APs leak and it's a pain in the ass to take apart. 450i is a
> different story. That should have no issues with hot or cold shrink with
> the bulkhead design they used. So much easier.
>
> The silicone-rubber tape I use is DSG/Canusa CTB-15. You can find it for
> about $12, IIRC. It's UV stable. I've never put any vinyl tape over top.
> Had connections sealed with the stuff in the field for over 10 years, and
> other than bird shit, it looks like it was applied yesterday. Cut it open
> and the connectors are still shining like new. And no mess.
>
>
> On 5/23/2017 11:41 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Well, only a little bit to keep the end from flapping or adjusting to any
> other irregularities. It otherwise forms a waterproof bond to itself.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
>
> *From: *"Jason McKemie" 
> 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:39:34 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing
>
> Gotcha, thanks. I assume you also wrap it in electrical tape after the
> silicon?
>
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>
>> https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-tape/gardner-bender-reg-10-l-x-1-w-black-silicone-self-sealing-tape/p-13100.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
> *From: *"Jason McKemie" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:30:44 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing
>>
>> Know who it is made by?
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
> I just get mine from Menards.
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:49:08 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing
>>>
>>> Is that like the 3m rubber splicing tape?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
>>>
>> Cold shrink is good. But i am with Mike. We use silicon tape on
 everything now. Easier to work with putting on and taking off. Times
 Microwave WK-S-2 I think is the part number we order.

 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:28 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

>>> What about silicon tape?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Mike Hammett

TTLs. 

It just shows you who hasn't been to your site lately. :-p 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:32:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues 

Thanks everyone. Seems Google DNS is not as monolithic as one would think. 

-Original Message- 
From: Seth Mattinen 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:30 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues 

On 5/23/17 13:11, Chuck McCown wrote: 
> This is the “new and improved” site. 


I'm seeing the new one in Nevada. I use my own DNS. 

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown

Thanks everyone.  Seems Google DNS is not as monolithic as one would think.

-Original Message- 
From: Seth Mattinen

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

On 5/23/17 13:11, Chuck McCown wrote:

This is the “new and improved” site.

I'm seeing the new one in Nevada. I use my own DNS.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT DNS propagation issues

2017-05-23 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 5/23/17 13:11, Chuck McCown wrote:

This is the “new and improved” site.



I'm seeing the new one in Nevada. I use my own DNS.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Unresponsive PMP450 AP

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Muehleisen

I had something very similar to this recently. There ended up being a lot
of water in the case. It worked for a short while after drying but
eventually died on the bench.

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:

> I have a PMP450 AP that seems ‘deadish’.. any thoughts?
>
>
>
> I cannot ping it, telnet into it, HTTP into it
>
> But the yellow traffic indicator light on the unit blinks
>
> It sends out a LLDP_Multicast message every 60 seconds or so with the name
> on the unit on it
>
> I’ve tried the default cable and power cycle procedures
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-1614>
> Mobile: 510-207- <(510)%20207->
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange

2017-05-23 Thread Louis Arsenault

Coinbase

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Eel skin is my preference.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange
>
> having zero interaction with this I'm just curious what are recommended
> here, not concerned about mining
>



-- 
-Louis

NTInet
O: 803-533-1660 X 207
C: 803-997-0004

Re: [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown

Eel skin is my preference.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange

having zero interaction with this I'm just curious what are recommended here, 
not concerned about mining

[AFMUG] OT: good bitcoin wallet and exchange

2017-05-23 Thread Steve Jones

having zero interaction with this I'm just curious what are recommended
here, not concerned about mining

Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

2017-05-23 Thread George Skorup

I still use some 4:1 adhesive lined heat-shrink on difficult connectors,
like the 3GHz 450 antenna ports because they're so awkwardly close
together. But I stopped using it on the radio side because we've had so
many 450 APs leak and it's a pain in the ass to take apart. 450i is a
different story. That should have no issues with hot or cold shrink with
the bulkhead design they used. So much easier.

The silicone-rubber tape I use is DSG/Canusa CTB-15. You can find it for
about $12, IIRC. It's UV stable. I've never put any vinyl tape over top.
Had connections sealed with the stuff in the field for over 10 years,
and other than bird shit, it looks like it was applied yesterday. Cut it
open and the connectors are still shining like new. And no mess.

On 5/23/2017 11:41 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Well, only a little bit to keep the end from flapping or adjusting to
any other irregularities. It otherwise forms a waterproof bond to itself.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

*From: *"Jason McKemie"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:39:34 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

Gotcha, thanks. I assume you also wrap it in electrical tape after the
silicon?

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Mike Hammett > wrote:

https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-tape/gardner-bender-reg-10-l-x-1-w-black-silicone-self-sealing-tape/p-13100.htm

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

*From: *"Jason McKemie"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:30:44 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

Know who it is made by?

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Mike Hammett wrote:

I just get mine from Menards.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

*From: *"Jason McKemie"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:49:08 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cold shrink sealing

Is that like the 3m rubber splicing tape?

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017, Lewis Bergman
wrote:

Cold shrink is good. But i am with Mike. We use silicon
tape on everything now. Easier to work with putting on and
taking off. Times Microwave WK-S-2 I think is the part
number we order.

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:28 AM Mike Hammett
wrote:

What about silicon tape?

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown

Yes, for valley crossings too.  You shoot through air layers rather than 
perhaps skip between them.  

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

So you are suggesting that an angled path is better than one at level elevation?

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  No

  From: Cameron Crum 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:47 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

  Did you use any vertical diversity with the antennas?

  On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

I have done lots of stuff over the Great Salt Lake.  No problems.  If you 
can get some elevation difference between the two ends it is supposed to help.  
You want to avoid “specular” reflections.  

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

I have about 0 experience doing uW hops over the ocean. Anyone have 
suggestions on best gear to use for ~12 miles over ocean, 1Gbps links? 
Wondering which radios hold up the best in that climate...tropics, island hops. 
I had a client ask so I thought I'd put it out to the borg. 

Cameron

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Cameron Crum

So you are suggesting that an angled path is better than one at level
elevation?

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> No
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:47 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean
>
> Did you use any vertical diversity with the antennas?
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I have done lots of stuff over the Great Salt Lake.  No problems.  If you
>> can get some elevation difference between the two ends it is supposed to
>> help.  You want to avoid “specular” reflections.
>>
>> *From:* Cameron Crum
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:40 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] uW over ocean
>>
>> I have about 0 experience doing uW hops over the ocean. Anyone have
>> suggestions on best gear to use for ~12 miles over ocean, 1Gbps links?
>> Wondering which radios hold up the best in that climate...tropics, island
>> hops. I had a client ask so I thought I'd put it out to the borg.
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Chuck McCown

No

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

Did you use any vertical diversity with the antennas?

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I have done lots of stuff over the Great Salt Lake.  No problems.  If you can 
get some elevation difference between the two ends it is supposed to help.  You 
want to avoid “specular” reflections.  

  From: Cameron Crum 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:40 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

  I have about 0 experience doing uW hops over the ocean. Anyone have 
suggestions on best gear to use for ~12 miles over ocean, 1Gbps links? 
Wondering which radios hold up the best in that climate...tropics, island hops. 
I had a client ask so I thought I'd put it out to the borg. 

  Cameron

Re: [AFMUG] uW over ocean

2017-05-23 Thread Cameron Crum

Did you use any vertical diversity with the antennas?

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I have done lots of stuff over the Great Salt Lake.  No problems.  If you
> can get some elevation difference between the two ends it is supposed to
> help.  You want to avoid “specular” reflections.
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] uW over ocean
>
> I have about 0 experience doing uW hops over the ocean. Anyone have
> suggestions on best gear to use for ~12 miles over ocean, 1Gbps links?
> Wondering which radios hold up the best in that climate...tropics, island
> hops. I had a client ask so I thought I'd put it out to the borg.
>
> Cameron
>

[AFMUG] Unresponsive PMP450 AP

2017-05-23 Thread Peter Kranz

I have a PMP450 AP that seems 'deadish'.. any thoughts?

 

I cannot ping it, telnet into it, HTTP into it

But the yellow traffic indicator light on the unit blinks

It sends out a LLDP_Multicast message every 60 seconds or so with the name
on the unit on it

I've tried the default cable and power cycle procedures

 



 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com  
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

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