Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Simon Westlake]

Good place to start!

On 9/25/2017 10:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

...that you are

is sonar casts the place to go "to find out more"?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


I'm here talking to you at 10PM on a Monday

On 9/25/2017 10:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

there is production and there is production.

I see this: "If you just need to talk to someone, we're here for
that, too ."

Are there any ***fine prints on this? Because sometimes I get
lonely and just need somebody to talk to

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

Been production for a long time now! Hit v1 last year.

On 9/25/2017 10:00 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

is sonar fully in production or alpha beta state?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

I'm not a hater, I'm still here.

On 9/25/2017 9:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

hater

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

Mmmm.. no.

On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Simon... please, please, please come back

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:

I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the
lighter used NX216 so at least the monitoring
offloads. but I have to say, it really pisses
a guy off when hardware specs are removed,
really pisses the guy off.

weve been running 750 or so through this one,
but bandwidth has increased. As best I can
tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm
understanding the attacked MT correctly.

This started with monitoring anomalies, high
pings on monitoring devices on the BMU, but no
customer impact, now its croaking customer
latencies.





On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter
> wrote:

I think we started having issues around
600 or 800 subs on our NX216


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay
Fuller > wrote:

i have heard rumor you might have
problems with a nx216 with 500 or so
accounts or higher.
the symptom is when you see "bmu
queue" counter start being high(er) on
your billing server.
we have not run into this yet and are
still on a nx216 - close to 700
customers i think.
we have been adding and removing a lot
(of customers) lately

- Original Message -
*From:* Steve Jones

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017
8:47 PM
*Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

anybody know where the hardware
details are? I think we outgrew a
bmu, but with the whole new
nonsense website and haphazard
tertiary sites I don't seem to be
able to find any specs




-- 


Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071

C: 806.231.7180 
http://www.amarillowireless.net








-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Steve Jones]

...that you are

is sonar casts the place to go "to find out more"?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> I'm here talking to you at 10PM on a Monday
>
> On 9/25/2017 10:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> there is production and there is production.
>
> I see this: "If you just need to talk to someone, we're here for that, too
> ."
>
> Are there any ***fine prints on this? Because sometimes I get lonely and
> just need somebody to talk to
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Simon Westlake 
> wrote:
>
>> Been production for a long time now! Hit v1 last year.
>>
>> On 9/25/2017 10:00 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> is sonar fully in production or alpha beta state?
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Simon Westlake 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not a hater, I'm still here.
>>>
>>> On 9/25/2017 9:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> hater
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Mmmm.. no.

 On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

 Simon... please, please, please come back

 On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:

> I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216 so at
> least the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it really pisses a guy
> off when hardware specs are removed, really pisses the guy off.
>
> weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth has
> increased. As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm
> understanding the attacked MT correctly.
>
> This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on monitoring
> devices on the BMU, but no customer impact, now its croaking customer
> latencies.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter <
> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>
>> I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or
>>> so accounts or higher.
>>> the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er)
>>> on your billing server.
>>> we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to
>>> 700 customers i think.
>>>
>>> we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Steve Jones 
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs
>>>
>>> anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a
>>> bmu, but with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary 
>>> sites I
>>> don't seem to be able to find any specs
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <%28806%29%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <%28806%29%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

 --
 Simon Westlake
 Email: simon@sonar.software
 Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
 ---
 Sonar Software Inc
 The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software


>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon Westlake
>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
>>> ---
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Simon Westlake]

I'm here talking to you at 10PM on a Monday

On 9/25/2017 10:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

there is production and there is production.

I see this: "If you just need to talk to someone, we're here for that, 
too ."


Are there any ***fine prints on this? Because sometimes I get lonely 
and just need somebody to talk to


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


Been production for a long time now! Hit v1 last year.

On 9/25/2017 10:00 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

is sonar fully in production or alpha beta state?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

I'm not a hater, I'm still here.

On 9/25/2017 9:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

hater

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

Mmmm.. no.

On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Simon... please, please, please come back

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:

I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter
used NX216 so at least the monitoring offloads. but
I have to say, it really pisses a guy off when
hardware specs are removed, really pisses the guy off.

weve been running 750 or so through this one, but
bandwidth has increased. As best I can tell its not
heavy, like 20kpps if I'm understanding the
attacked MT correctly.

This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings
on monitoring devices on the BMU, but no customer
impact, now its croaking customer latencies.





On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter
> wrote:

I think we started having issues around 600 or
800 subs on our NX216


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay
Fuller > wrote:

i have heard rumor you might have problems
with a nx216 with 500 or so accounts or higher.
the symptom is when you see "bmu queue"
counter start being high(er) on your
billing server.
we have not run into this yet and are still
on a nx216 - close to 700 customers i think.
we have been adding and removing a lot (of
customers) lately

- Original Message -
*From:* Steve Jones

*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
*Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

anybody know where the hardware details
are? I think we outgrew a bmu, but with
the whole new nonsense website and
haphazard tertiary sites I don't seem
to be able to find any specs




-- 


Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071

C: 806.231.7180 
http://www.amarillowireless.net








-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US /(780) 900-1180 
  CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US /(780) 900-1180 
  CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US 

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Steve Jones]

there is production and there is production.

I see this: "If you just need to talk to someone, we're here for that, too
."

Are there any ***fine prints on this? Because sometimes I get lonely and
just need somebody to talk to

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> Been production for a long time now! Hit v1 last year.
>
> On 9/25/2017 10:00 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> is sonar fully in production or alpha beta state?
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Simon Westlake 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not a hater, I'm still here.
>>
>> On 9/25/2017 9:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> hater
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mmmm.. no.
>>>
>>> On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Simon... please, please, please come back
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216 so at
 least the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it really pisses a guy
 off when hardware specs are removed, really pisses the guy off.

 weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth has
 increased. As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm
 understanding the attacked MT correctly.

 This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on monitoring
 devices on the BMU, but no customer impact, now its croaking customer
 latencies.





 On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter <
 ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:

> I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or
>> so accounts or higher.
>> the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er)
>> on your billing server.
>> we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700
>> customers i think.
>>
>> we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Steve Jones 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs
>>
>> anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a
>> bmu, but with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary 
>> sites I
>> don't seem to be able to find any specs
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <%28806%29%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <%28806%29%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
>
>
>

>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon Westlake
>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
>>> ---
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Simon Westlake]

Been production for a long time now! Hit v1 last year.

On 9/25/2017 10:00 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

is sonar fully in production or alpha beta state?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


I'm not a hater, I'm still here.

On 9/25/2017 9:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

hater

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

Mmmm.. no.

On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Simon... please, please, please come back

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:

I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used
NX216 so at least the monitoring offloads. but I have to
say, it really pisses a guy off when hardware specs are
removed, really pisses the guy off.

weve been running 750 or so through this one, but
bandwidth has increased. As best I can tell its not
heavy, like 20kpps if I'm understanding the attacked MT
correctly.

This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on
monitoring devices on the BMU, but no customer impact,
now its croaking customer latencies.





On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter
> wrote:

I think we started having issues around 600 or 800
subs on our NX216


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> wrote:

i have heard rumor you might have problems with
a nx216 with 500 or so accounts or higher.
the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter
start being high(er) on your billing server.
we have not run into this yet and are still on a
nx216 - close to 700 customers i think.
we have been adding and removing a lot (of
customers) lately

- Original Message -
*From:* Steve Jones

*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
*Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

anybody know where the hardware details are?
I think we outgrew a bmu, but with the whole
new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary
sites I don't seem to be able to find any specs




-- 


Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071

C: 806.231.7180 
http://www.amarillowireless.net








-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US /(780) 900-1180 
  CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US /(780) 900-1180 
  CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Steve Jones]

is sonar fully in production or alpha beta state?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> I'm not a hater, I'm still here.
>
> On 9/25/2017 9:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> hater
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake 
> wrote:
>
>> Mmmm.. no.
>>
>> On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> Simon... please, please, please come back
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216 so at
>>> least the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it really pisses a guy
>>> off when hardware specs are removed, really pisses the guy off.
>>>
>>> weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth has
>>> increased. As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm
>>> understanding the attacked MT correctly.
>>>
>>> This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on monitoring devices
>>> on the BMU, but no customer impact, now its croaking customer latencies.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter <
>>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>>
 I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216


 On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
 par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or so
> accounts or higher.
> the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er)
> on your billing server.
> we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700
> customers i think.
>
> we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Steve Jones 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs
>
> anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu,
> but with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I
> don't seem to be able to find any specs
>
>


 --

 Adair Winter
 VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
 Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <%28806%29%20316-5071>
 C: 806.231.7180 <%28806%29%20231-7180>
 http://www.amarillowireless.net
 



>>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Simon Westlake]

I'm not a hater, I'm still here.

On 9/25/2017 9:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

hater

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


Mmmm.. no.

On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Simon... please, please, please come back

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:

I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216
so at least the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it
really pisses a guy off when hardware specs are removed,
really pisses the guy off.

weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth
has increased. As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps
if I'm understanding the attacked MT correctly.

This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on
monitoring devices on the BMU, but no customer impact, now
its croaking customer latencies.





On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter
> wrote:

I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs
on our NX216


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> wrote:

i have heard rumor you might have problems with a
nx216 with 500 or so accounts or higher.
the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start
being high(er) on your billing server.
we have not run into this yet and are still on a
nx216 - close to 700 customers i think.
we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers)
lately

- Original Message -
*From:* Steve Jones

*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
*Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

anybody know where the hardware details are? I
think we outgrew a bmu, but with the whole new
nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I
don't seem to be able to find any specs




-- 


Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 
C: 806.231.7180 
http://www.amarillowireless.net








-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US /(780) 900-1180 
  CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Steve Jones]

hater

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> Mmmm.. no.
>
> On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Simon... please, please, please come back
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216 so at least
>> the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it really pisses a guy off when
>> hardware specs are removed, really pisses the guy off.
>>
>> weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth has
>> increased. As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm
>> understanding the attacked MT correctly.
>>
>> This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on monitoring devices
>> on the BMU, but no customer impact, now its croaking customer latencies.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter <
>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>

 i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or so
 accounts or higher.
 the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er) on
 your billing server.
 we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700
 customers i think.

 we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Steve Jones 
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

 anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu,
 but with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I
 don't seem to be able to find any specs


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Adair Winter
>>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <%28806%29%20316-5071>
>>> C: 806.231.7180 <%28806%29%20231-7180>
>>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Simon Westlake]

Mmmm.. no.

On 9/25/2017 9:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Simon... please, please, please come back

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:


I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216 so
at least the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it really
pisses a guy off when hardware specs are removed, really pisses
the guy off.

weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth has
increased. As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm
understanding the attacked MT correctly.

This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on monitoring
devices on the BMU, but no customer impact, now its croaking
customer latencies.





On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter
>
wrote:

I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our
NX216


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>
wrote:

i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216
with 500 or so accounts or higher.
the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start
being high(er) on your billing server.
we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 -
close to 700 customers i think.
we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately

- Original Message -
*From:* Steve Jones 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
*Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

anybody know where the hardware details are? I think
we outgrew a bmu, but with the whole new nonsense
website and haphazard tertiary sites I don't seem to
be able to find any specs




-- 


Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 
C: 806.231.7180 
http://www.amarillowireless.net 







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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Steve Jones]

Simon... please, please, please come back

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216 so at least
> the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it really pisses a guy off when
> hardware specs are removed, really pisses the guy off.
>
> weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth has increased.
> As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm understanding the
> attacked MT correctly.
>
> This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on monitoring devices
> on the BMU, but no customer impact, now its croaking customer latencies.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter  > wrote:
>
>> I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or so
>>> accounts or higher.
>>> the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er) on
>>> your billing server.
>>> we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700
>>> customers i think.
>>>
>>> we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Steve Jones 
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs
>>>
>>> anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu,
>>> but with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I
>>> don't seem to be able to find any specs
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Steve Jones]

I'm pushing our infrastructure over to the lighter used NX216 so at least
the monitoring offloads. but I have to say, it really pisses a guy off when
hardware specs are removed, really pisses the guy off.

weve been running 750 or so through this one, but bandwidth has increased.
As best I can tell its not heavy, like 20kpps if I'm understanding the
attacked MT correctly.

This started with monitoring anomalies, high pings on monitoring devices on
the BMU, but no customer impact, now its croaking customer latencies.





On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Adair Winter 
wrote:

> I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or so
>> accounts or higher.
>> the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er) on
>> your billing server.
>> we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700
>> customers i think.
>>
>> we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Steve Jones 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs
>>
>> anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu,
>> but with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I
>> don't seem to be able to find any specs
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Adair Winter]

I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or so
> accounts or higher.
> the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er) on
> your billing server.
> we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700
> customers i think.
>
> we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Steve Jones 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs
>
> anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu, but
> with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I don't
> seem to be able to find any specs
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or so accounts 
or higher.
the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er) on your 
billing server.
we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700 customers 
i think.

we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately


  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Jones 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs


  anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu, but 
with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I don't seem 
to be able to find any specs

[AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Steve Jones]

anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu, but
with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I don't
seem to be able to find any specs

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i hate tabs. i  love alt-tab
but i think the most windows i've ever had open and can manage is about 30

  - Original Message - 
  From: Adam Moffett 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5


  This is a joke?  How could you keep track of which window + tab you need for 
any given purpose?




  -- Original Message --
  From: "Mike Hammett" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 9/25/2017 4:06:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5


*nods* I typically run 200 - 300 tabs open across 30+ windows.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 3:05:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5


ITs a big deal for me. Im a window warrior, half the time I have 2 or 3 
windows open each with a billion tabs. I hate when Im troubleshooting and 
upgrade a firmware and have to close out all those youporn tab... Work 
related tabs


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

  Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think I've 
been using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I haven't seen any 
issues with it. There was a change at one point that caused the old config 
files to completely fail, but that might've been when I was still using binary. 


  I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to 
3.4.1, it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal... interestingly, 
if you go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it doesn't happen. 



  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:

Binary sucks. I never use it.

I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 
3.5. The only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are 
disabled. Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest sets 
our generic SM password for all four users. Works for me.

3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios 
running 3.5, but seems fine for the most part.

Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are 
minor annoyances.
When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my 
browser before it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. Something 
probably changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go. People 
complain this still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running Chrome and 
don't realize that background Chrome processes stay running, like the Hangouts 
desktop app. Kill it from task manager and everything works fine.
Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or 
something like that.
Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's 
next.


On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

  Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain 
versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might just 
be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the cnmaestro 
stuff).



  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

I have seen the same thing Steve. 






Joe


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:

  we have found with config files, never, ever, under any 
circumstance load one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and 
pestulence always follow. 


  its irritating because we load a default config into each unit 
before deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default 
it, manually rebuild the entire config and export it.


  cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked 
regardless


  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  
wrote:

I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.  
 But the one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves 
around saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just to go 
'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back from the 
'applying' state.  

And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power 
cycle to access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.  

I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just 
dealing with the Slow GUI.  


On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:

  What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that 
others are not having major issues with 3.5.  

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Mike Hammett]

Windows are arranged by project. If I'm leaving the window for a while, I leave 
it on whatever tab best describes that project or part of a project. 

If I lose a tab, my session manager (Session Buddy) has a listing of all tabs I 
have open and I can search for it. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Adam Moffett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:13:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5 


This is a joke? How could you keep track of which window + tab you need for any 
given purpose? 




-- Original Message -- 
From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 9/25/2017 4:06:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5 





*nods* I typically run 200 - 300 tabs open across 30+ windows. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 3:05:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5 


ITs a big deal for me. Im a window warrior, half the time I have 2 or 3 windows 
open each with a billion tabs. I hate when Im troubleshooting and upgrade a 
firmware and have to close out all those youporn tab... Work related tabs 


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think I've been 
using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I haven't seen any issues 
with it. There was a change at one point that caused the old config files to 
completely fail, but that might've been when I was still using binary. 

I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to 3.4.1, 
it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal... interestingly, if you 
go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it doesn't happen. 



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup < george.sko...@cbcast.com > 
wrote: 



Binary sucks. I never use it. 

I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 3.5. The 
only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are disabled. 
Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest sets our generic 
SM password for all four users. Works for me. 

3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios running 3.5, 
but seems fine for the most part. 

Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are minor 
annoyances. 
When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my browser before 
it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. Something probably 
changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go. People complain this 
still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running Chrome and don't realize 
that background Chrome processes stay running, like the Hangouts desktop app. 
Kill it from task manager and everything works fine. 
Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or something like 
that. 
Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's next. 


On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: 



Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain versions, 
but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might just be that I'm 
not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the cnmaestro stuff). 



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak < jno...@lrcomm.com > wrote: 





I have seen the same thing Steve. 






Joe 


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance load one 
from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always follow. 


its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before 
deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it, 
manually rebuild the entire config and export it. 


cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless 




On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: 





I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets. But the one 
thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves around saving 
config changes. Click the save button, and radio will just to go 'applying' for 
several seconds, may or may not actually come back from the 'applying' state. 

And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle to access 
the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion. 

I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing with 
the Slow GUI. 


On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote: 




What bugs have you actually experienced? It seems that others are not having 
major issues with 3.5. a few things as mentioned on Cambium 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Adam Moffett]

This is a joke?  How could you keep track of which window + tab you need 
for any given purpose?



-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/25/2017 4:06:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5


*nods* I typically run 200 - 300 tabs open across 30+ windows.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 


Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 


The Brothers WISP 





From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 3:05:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

ITs a big deal for me. Im a window warrior, half the time I have 2 or 3 
windows open each with a billion tabs. I hate when Im troubleshooting 
and upgrade a firmware and have to close out all those youporn 
tab... Work related tabs


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Mathew Howard  
wrote:
Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think 
I've been using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I 
haven't seen any issues with it. There was a change at one point that 
caused the old config files to completely fail, but that might've been 
when I was still using binary.


I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to 
3.4.1, it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal... 
interestingly, if you go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it 
doesn't happen.


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

Binary sucks. I never use it.

I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 
3.5. The only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts 
that are disabled. Take those out of the config file and it works 
fine. My latest sets our generic SM password for all four users. 
Works for me.


3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios 
running 3.5, but seems fine for the most part.


Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community 
are minor annoyances.
When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my 
browser before it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. 
Something probably changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let 
it go. People complain this still doesn't work. It does. They're 
probably running Chrome and don't realize that background Chrome 
processes stay running, like the Hangouts desktop app. Kill it from 
task manager and everything works fine.
Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or 
something like that.
Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or 
whatever's next.


On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain 
versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it 
might just be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up 
(like the cnmaestro stuff).


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak  
wrote:

I have seen the same thing Steve.



Joe

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:
we have found with config files, never, ever, under any 
circumstance load one from one firmware to another, ever, disease 
and pestulence always follow.


its irritating because we load a default config into each unit 
before deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, 
factory default it, manually rebuild the entire config and export 
it.


cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked 
regardless


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  
wrote:
I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   
But the one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 
3.5 revolves around saving config changes.  Click the save 
button, and radio will just to go 'applying' for several seconds, 
may or may not actually come back from the 'applying' state.


And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power 
cycle to access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.


I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just 
dealing with the Slow GUI.


On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others 
are not having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned 
on Cambium forums.




Paul



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Mathew Howard]

I usually just end up opening another browser to deal with those (like, say
Firefox)... I admit it's really annoying, but I'd much rather have that
kind of bug than the kind that makes customers call up screaming.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> it would be so rad if we could have tabs of windows
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> *nods* I typically run 200 - 300 tabs open across 30+ windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 3:05:11 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>>
>> ITs a big deal for me. Im a window warrior, half the time I have 2 or 3
>> windows open each with a billion tabs. I hate when Im troubleshooting and
>> upgrade a firmware and have to close out all those youporn tab... Work
>> related tabs
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think I've
>>> been using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I haven't seen any
>>> issues with it. There was a change at one point that caused the old config
>>> files to completely fail, but that might've been when I was still using
>>> binary.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to
>>> 3.4.1, it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal...
>>> interestingly, if you go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it doesn't
>>> happen.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 Binary sucks. I never use it.

 I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and
 3.5. The only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are
 disabled. Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest
 sets our generic SM password for all four users. Works for me.

 3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios
 running 3.5, but seems fine for the most part.

 Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are
 minor annoyances.
 When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my
 browser before it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work.
 Something probably changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go.
 People complain this still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running
 Chrome and don't realize that background Chrome processes stay running,
 like the Hangouts desktop app. Kill it from task manager and everything
 works fine.
 Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or
 something like that.
 Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's
 next.

 On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain
 versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might
 just be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the
 cnmaestro stuff).

 On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> I have seen the same thing Steve.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance
>> load one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence 
>> always
>> follow.
>>
>> its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
>> deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
>> manually rebuild the entire config and export it.
>>
>> cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But
>>> the one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves
>>> around saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will 
>>> just
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Steve Jones]

it would be so rad if we could have tabs of windows


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> *nods* I typically run 200 - 300 tabs open across 30+ windows.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 3:05:11 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>
> ITs a big deal for me. Im a window warrior, half the time I have 2 or 3
> windows open each with a billion tabs. I hate when Im troubleshooting and
> upgrade a firmware and have to close out all those youporn tab... Work
> related tabs
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think I've
>> been using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I haven't seen any
>> issues with it. There was a change at one point that caused the old config
>> files to completely fail, but that might've been when I was still using
>> binary.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to
>> 3.4.1, it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal...
>> interestingly, if you go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it doesn't
>> happen.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Binary sucks. I never use it.
>>>
>>> I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 3.5.
>>> The only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are
>>> disabled. Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest
>>> sets our generic SM password for all four users. Works for me.
>>>
>>> 3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios running
>>> 3.5, but seems fine for the most part.
>>>
>>> Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are
>>> minor annoyances.
>>> When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my browser
>>> before it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. Something
>>> probably changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go. People
>>> complain this still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running Chrome
>>> and don't realize that background Chrome processes stay running, like the
>>> Hangouts desktop app. Kill it from task manager and everything works fine.
>>> Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or
>>> something like that.
>>> Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's
>>> next.
>>>
>>> On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain
>>> versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might
>>> just be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the
>>> cnmaestro stuff).
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
 I have seen the same thing Steve.



 Joe

 On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:

> we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance
> load one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always
> follow.
>
> its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
> deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
> manually rebuild the entire config and export it.
>
> cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke 
> wrote:
>
>> I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But
>> the one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves
>> around saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just
>> to go 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back
>> from the 'applying' state.
>>
>> And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle
>> to access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.
>>
>> I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just
>> dealing with the Slow GUI.
>>
>> On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
>>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* I typically run 200 - 300 tabs open across 30+ windows. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 3:05:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5 


ITs a big deal for me. Im a window warrior, half the time I have 2 or 3 windows 
open each with a billion tabs. I hate when Im troubleshooting and upgrade a 
firmware and have to close out all those youporn tab... Work related tabs 


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think I've been 
using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I haven't seen any issues 
with it. There was a change at one point that caused the old config files to 
completely fail, but that might've been when I was still using binary. 

I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to 3.4.1, 
it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal... interestingly, if you 
go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it doesn't happen. 



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup < george.sko...@cbcast.com > 
wrote: 



Binary sucks. I never use it. 

I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 3.5. The 
only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are disabled. 
Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest sets our generic 
SM password for all four users. Works for me. 

3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios running 3.5, 
but seems fine for the most part. 

Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are minor 
annoyances. 
When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my browser before 
it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. Something probably 
changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go. People complain this 
still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running Chrome and don't realize 
that background Chrome processes stay running, like the Hangouts desktop app. 
Kill it from task manager and everything works fine. 
Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or something like 
that. 
Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's next. 


On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: 



Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain versions, 
but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might just be that I'm 
not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the cnmaestro stuff). 



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak < jno...@lrcomm.com > wrote: 





I have seen the same thing Steve. 






Joe 


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance load one 
from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always follow. 


its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before 
deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it, 
manually rebuild the entire config and export it. 


cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless 




On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: 





I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets. But the one 
thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves around saving 
config changes. Click the save button, and radio will just to go 'applying' for 
several seconds, may or may not actually come back from the 'applying' state. 

And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle to access 
the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion. 

I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing with 
the Slow GUI. 


On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote: 




What bugs have you actually experienced? It seems that others are not having 
major issues with 3.5. a few things as mentioned on Cambium forums. 

Paul 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5 


Rolling 3.2.2 still. I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't make it 
worth it. 



I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or 3.4...but 
not at the cost of the bugs. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 





I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or so on 
3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP. 







On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > wrote: 






How big is 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Steve Jones]

ITs a big deal for me. Im a window warrior, half the time I have 2 or 3
windows open each with a billion tabs. I hate when Im troubleshooting and
upgrade a firmware and have to close out all those youporn tab... Work
related tabs

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think I've
> been using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I haven't seen any
> issues with it. There was a change at one point that caused the old config
> files to completely fail, but that might've been when I was still using
> binary.
>
> I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to
> 3.4.1, it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal...
> interestingly, if you go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it doesn't
> happen.
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Binary sucks. I never use it.
>>
>> I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 3.5.
>> The only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are
>> disabled. Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest
>> sets our generic SM password for all four users. Works for me.
>>
>> 3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios running
>> 3.5, but seems fine for the most part.
>>
>> Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are
>> minor annoyances.
>> When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my browser
>> before it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. Something
>> probably changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go. People
>> complain this still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running Chrome
>> and don't realize that background Chrome processes stay running, like the
>> Hangouts desktop app. Kill it from task manager and everything works fine.
>> Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or
>> something like that.
>> Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's
>> next.
>>
>> On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain
>> versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might
>> just be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the
>> cnmaestro stuff).
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen the same thing Steve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance
 load one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always
 follow.

 its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
 deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
 manually rebuild the entire config and export it.

 cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless

 On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke 
 wrote:

> I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But
> the one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves
> around saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just
> to go 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back
> from the 'applying' state.
>
> And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle
> to access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.
>
> I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just
> dealing with the Slow GUI.
>
> On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
>
> What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are not
> having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium 
> forums.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>
>
>
> Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that
> doesn't make it worth it.
>
>
>
> I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or
> 3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> I guess I over estimated a 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I stopped using binary config files a long time ago. I think I've
been using the same config file for SMs since 3.2.2, and I haven't seen any
issues with it. There was a change at one point that caused the old config
files to completely fail, but that might've been when I was still using
binary.

I'm pretty sure the browser not being able to login thing goes back to
3.4.1, it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal...
interestingly, if you go from something really old, like 2.4.5, it doesn't
happen.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Binary sucks. I never use it.
>
> I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 3.5.
> The only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are
> disabled. Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest
> sets our generic SM password for all four users. Works for me.
>
> 3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios running
> 3.5, but seems fine for the most part.
>
> Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are
> minor annoyances.
> When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my browser
> before it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. Something
> probably changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go. People
> complain this still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running Chrome
> and don't realize that background Chrome processes stay running, like the
> Hangouts desktop app. Kill it from task manager and everything works fine.
> Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or something
> like that.
> Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's
> next.
>
> On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain
> versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might
> just be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the
> cnmaestro stuff).
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
>> I have seen the same thing Steve.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance
>>> load one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always
>>> follow.
>>>
>>> its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
>>> deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
>>> manually rebuild the entire config and export it.
>>>
>>> cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>>
 I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But
 the one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves
 around saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just
 to go 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back
 from the 'applying' state.

 And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle
 to access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.

 I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing
 with the Slow GUI.

 On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:

 What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are not
 having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium forums.



 Paul



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5



 Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't
 make it worth it.



 I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or
 3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

 I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or
 so on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP.





 On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

 How big is your network?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
 *To:* af 
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[George Skorup]

Binary sucks. I never use it.

I know I've used 2.6.2.1 JSON config files on 3.2.2, 3.3, 3.4.1 and 3.5. 
The only real problem I can recall right now is user accounts that are 
disabled. Take those out of the config file and it works fine. My latest 
sets our generic SM password for all four users. Works for me.


3.4.1 has been fine as far as I can tell. I have very few radios running 
3.5, but seems fine for the most part.


Some issues with 3.5 that have been noted on the Cambium Community are 
minor annoyances.
When I upgrade a radio to 3.5, I have to completely shut down my browser 
before it will let me log back in. Ctrl+Shift+R doesn't work. Something 
probably changed in CSS or some shit and Chrome won't let it go. People 
complain this still doesn't work. It does. They're probably running 
Chrome and don't realize that background Chrome processes stay running, 
like the Hangouts desktop app. Kill it from task manager and everything 
works fine.
Another which Cambium confirmed is GPS coordinates not saving or 
something like that.

Hopefully they'll get this small stuff fixed up in 3.5.1 or whatever's next.

On 9/25/2017 2:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain 
versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it 
might just be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up 
(like the cnmaestro stuff).


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak > wrote:


I have seen the same thing Steve.



Joe

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:

we have found with config files, never, ever, under any
circumstance load one from one firmware to another, ever,
disease and pestulence always follow.

its irritating because we load a default config into each unit
before deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit,
factory default it, manually rebuild the entire config and
export it.

cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked
regardless

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke
> wrote:

I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any
tickets.   But the one thing I've noticed from my little
usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves around saving config
changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just to go
'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually
come back from the 'applying' state.

And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to
power cycle to access the radio, it's like it locks the IP
portion.

I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and
just dealing with the Slow GUI.

On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:


What bugs have you actually experienced? It seems that
others are not having major issues with 3.5.  a few
things as mentioned on Cambium forums.

Paul

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and
3.5 that doesn't make it worth it.

I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came
with 3.3 or 3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St


Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only
got a hundred or so on 3.5. I think we have somewhere
around a thousand customers on ePMP.

On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"
> wrote:

How big is your network?

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of
*Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
*To:* af >
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our
stuff now. I 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Joe Novak]

That is like cheating, I like it. Thanks for the info Adam.. I will have to
dig into that this winter.

Thanks,


Joe



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Use python and snimpy to pre-config.
> Snimpy is awesome.  For this one to work, put the ePMP MIB in the same
> directory as the script.  Install Snipmy per the author's instructions.
> I use this script to correct units in the field that are wrong, so for
> example where the unit has the wrong SNMP string I set "fixaccess" to 1.
> It could just easily be a preconfig script.
>
>
> #!/usr/bin/python
> from snimpy.manager import Manager as M
> from snimpy.manager import load
> import sys
>
> #usage:
> # ePMPSetup.py [read write string] [fixaccess enable] [setvlans enable]
> [setmaestro] [unit ip]
> # ePMPSetup.py private 1 1 1 169.254.1.1
>
> ip = sys.argv[5]
> rwcomm = sys.argv[1]
> fixaccess = sys.argv[2]
> setvlans = sys.argv[3]
> setmaestro = sys.argv[4]
>
> #print sys.argv
> #print ip
> #print rwcomm
>
>
> #Load Compact MIB
> load("./CAMBIUM-ePMP-3.2-MIB.txt")
>
> m = M(host=ip, community=rwcomm, version=2)
> print "Device Name = "+m.systemConfigDeviceName
>
> if setvlans=="1":
>   print "Setting up mgmt VLAN"
>   m.mgmtVLANVID = 101
>   m.mgmtVLANVP = 7
>   m.mgmtVLANEnable = 1
>
>   print "Setting up data VLAN..."
>   m.dataVLANVID = 102
>   m.dataVLANVP = 0
>   m.dataVLANEnable = 1
>
> print "Enable spanning tree..."
> m.networkSTP = 1
>
> print "Setting Timezone to EST..."
> m.systemConfigTimezone = "EST5"
>
> print "Enable ethernet port security (limit to one device on ethernet
> port)..."
> m.networkPortSecurityMax = 1
> m.networkPortSecurityAgingTime = 300
> m.networkPortSecurity = 1
>
> print "Enable broadcast limit (prevent broadcast storm)..."
> m.networkBroadcastStormRate = 100
> m.networkBroadcastStormEnabled = 1
>
> if fixaccess == "1":
>   print "Fixing SNMP Strings..."
>   m.snmpReadOnlyCommunity = "ourreadcomm"
>   m.snmpReadWriteCommunity = "ourwritecomm"
>
> if setmaestro == "1":
>   print "Populate CN Maestro config..."
>   m.cambiumDeviceAgentCNSURL = "https://cloud.cambiumnetworks.com;
>   m.cambiumCNSDeviceAgentID = "agentID"
>   m.cambiumCNSDeviceAgentPassword = "maestropass"
>
> print "saving config..."
> m.cambiumpmp80211ConfigurationSave = 1
> print "applying config..."
> m.cambiumpmp80211ConfigurationApply = 1
>
> print "rebooting"
> m.cambiumpmp80211DeviceReboot = 1
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 9/25/2017 2:11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>
> we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance load
> one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always
> follow.
>
> its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
> deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
> manually rebuild the entire config and export it.
>
> cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But the
>> one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves around
>> saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just to go
>> 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back from the
>> 'applying' state.
>>
>> And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle to
>> access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.
>>
>> I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing
>> with the Slow GUI.
>>
>> On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
>>
>> What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are not
>> having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium forums.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>>
>>
>>
>> Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't
>> make it worth it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or
>> 3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or so
>> on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>
>> How big is your network?
>>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Adam Moffett]

Use python and snimpy to pre-config.
Snimpy is awesome.  For this one to work, put the ePMP MIB in the same 
directory as the script.  Install Snipmy per the author's instructions.
I use this script to correct units in the field that are wrong, so for 
example where the unit has the wrong SNMP string I set "fixaccess" to 1.

It could just easily be a preconfig script.


#!/usr/bin/python
from snimpy.manager import Manager as M
from snimpy.manager import load
import sys

#usage:
# ePMPSetup.py [read write string] [fixaccess enable] [setvlans enable] 
[setmaestro] [unit ip]

# ePMPSetup.py private 1 1 1 169.254.1.1

ip = sys.argv[5]
rwcomm = sys.argv[1]
fixaccess = sys.argv[2]
setvlans = sys.argv[3]
setmaestro = sys.argv[4]

#print sys.argv
#print ip
#print rwcomm


#Load Compact MIB
load("./CAMBIUM-ePMP-3.2-MIB.txt")

m = M(host=ip, community=rwcomm, version=2)
print "Device Name = "+m.systemConfigDeviceName

if setvlans=="1":
  print "Setting up mgmt VLAN"
  m.mgmtVLANVID = 101
  m.mgmtVLANVP = 7
  m.mgmtVLANEnable = 1

  print "Setting up data VLAN..."
  m.dataVLANVID = 102
  m.dataVLANVP = 0
  m.dataVLANEnable = 1

print "Enable spanning tree..."
m.networkSTP = 1

print "Setting Timezone to EST..."
m.systemConfigTimezone = "EST5"

print "Enable ethernet port security (limit to one device on ethernet 
port)..."

m.networkPortSecurityMax = 1
m.networkPortSecurityAgingTime = 300
m.networkPortSecurity = 1

print "Enable broadcast limit (prevent broadcast storm)..."
m.networkBroadcastStormRate = 100
m.networkBroadcastStormEnabled = 1

if fixaccess == "1":
  print "Fixing SNMP Strings..."
  m.snmpReadOnlyCommunity = "ourreadcomm"
  m.snmpReadWriteCommunity = "ourwritecomm"

if setmaestro == "1":
  print "Populate CN Maestro config..."
  m.cambiumDeviceAgentCNSURL = "https://cloud.cambiumnetworks.com;
  m.cambiumCNSDeviceAgentID = "agentID"
  m.cambiumCNSDeviceAgentPassword = "maestropass"

print "saving config..."
m.cambiumpmp80211ConfigurationSave = 1
print "applying config..."
m.cambiumpmp80211ConfigurationApply = 1

print "rebooting"
m.cambiumpmp80211DeviceReboot = 1





-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 9/25/2017 2:11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance 
load one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence 
always follow.


its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before 
deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default 
it, manually rebuild the entire config and export it.


cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  
wrote:
I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But 
the one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 
revolves around saving config changes.  Click the save button, and 
radio will just to go 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not 
actually come back from the 'applying' state.


And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle 
to access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.


I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just 
dealing with the Slow GUI.


On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are 
not having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on 
Cambium forums.




Paul



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5



Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that 
doesn't make it worth it.




I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or 
3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 


Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard  
wrote:


I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred 
or so on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers 
on ePMP.






On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:


How big is your network?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
To: af < af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5



I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our stuff now. I 
haven't noticed any major issues.




On Sep 23, 2017 8:15 AM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

I see a few problems on the Cambium form on 3.5.   They may be 
isolated incidences but enough to have caution. Has anybody rolled 
it out to a large number of APs and 

Re: [AFMUG] Picostation M2HP replacement

[Eric Muehleisen]

Will have to definitely look into that further. Might be our best option

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> Unifi-AC-Lite can be configured with a APP on your cell phone now, I
> believe.. makes it easy to configure a static IP, SSID and WPA2 key.
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Eric Muehleisen 
> wrote:
>
>> Our guys love these to drop in and easily extend wifi. They are EOL and
>> will soon be gone. They are cheap, easy to setup and have great coverage.
>> What is a suitable replacement?
>>
>> Unifi AP's are great, but I hate that they can't be configured easily
>> without the need for a controller. A dual-band Picostation would be just
>> perfect here.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Picostation M2HP replacement

[Eric Muehleisen]

I have no problem with that. I love the Unifi AP's, but my techs are
wire-pullers, for the most part. Simple is easy and Picostations were
simple.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Unifi APs don't *need* to be able to reach a controller once they're
> configured, if all you're doing is setting them up for a single SSID and
> fixed WPA2 key...
>
> I have a copy of Virtualbox on my laptop, with a Debian Stretch install +
> java + Unifi controller software used to manually provisioning Unifi APs.
> Works great.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Eric Muehleisen 
> wrote:
>
>> Our guys love these to drop in and easily extend wifi. They are EOL and
>> will soon be gone. They are cheap, easy to setup and have great coverage.
>> What is a suitable replacement?
>>
>> Unifi AP's are great, but I hate that they can't be configured easily
>> without the need for a controller. A dual-band Picostation would be just
>> perfect here.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I've seen major problems re-using config files between certain
versions, but I haven't noticed anything on the last few... but it might
just be that I'm not using the stuff that's getting screwed up (like the
cnmaestro stuff).

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> I have seen the same thing Steve.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance load
>> one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always
>> follow.
>>
>> its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
>> deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
>> manually rebuild the entire config and export it.
>>
>> cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But the
>>> one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves around
>>> saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just to go
>>> 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back from the
>>> 'applying' state.
>>>
>>> And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle to
>>> access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.
>>>
>>> I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing
>>> with the Slow GUI.
>>>
>>> On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
>>>
>>> What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are not
>>> having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium forums.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't
>>> make it worth it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or
>>> 3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> 
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or
>>> so on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>>
>>> How big is your network?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
>>> *To:* af < af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our stuff now. I haven't
>>> noticed any major issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2017 8:15 AM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I see a few problems on the Cambium form on 3.5.   They may be isolated
>>> incidences but enough to have caution. Has anybody rolled it out to a large
>>> number of APs and SMs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, President
>>>
>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> 
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800 <%28772%29%20564-6800>
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Picostation M2HP replacement

[Joe Novak]

Unifi-AC-Lite can be configured with a APP on your cell phone now, I
believe.. makes it easy to configure a static IP, SSID and WPA2 key.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> Our guys love these to drop in and easily extend wifi. They are EOL and
> will soon be gone. They are cheap, easy to setup and have great coverage.
> What is a suitable replacement?
>
> Unifi AP's are great, but I hate that they can't be configured easily
> without the need for a controller. A dual-band Picostation would be just
> perfect here.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Picostation M2HP replacement

[Eric Kuhnke]

Unifi APs don't *need* to be able to reach a controller once they're
configured, if all you're doing is setting them up for a single SSID and
fixed WPA2 key...

I have a copy of Virtualbox on my laptop, with a Debian Stretch install +
java + Unifi controller software used to manually provisioning Unifi APs.
Works great.



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Eric Muehleisen 
wrote:

> Our guys love these to drop in and easily extend wifi. They are EOL and
> will soon be gone. They are cheap, easy to setup and have great coverage.
> What is a suitable replacement?
>
> Unifi AP's are great, but I hate that they can't be configured easily
> without the need for a controller. A dual-band Picostation would be just
> perfect here.
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Joe Novak]

I have seen the same thing Steve.



Joe

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance load
> one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always
> follow.
>
> its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
> deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
> manually rebuild the entire config and export it.
>
> cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But the
>> one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves around
>> saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just to go
>> 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back from the
>> 'applying' state.
>>
>> And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle to
>> access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.
>>
>> I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing
>> with the Slow GUI.
>>
>> On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
>>
>> What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are not
>> having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium forums.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>>
>>
>>
>> Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't
>> make it worth it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or
>> 3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or so
>> on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>
>> How big is your network?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
>> *To:* af < af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>>
>>
>>
>> I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our stuff now. I haven't
>> noticed any major issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2017 8:15 AM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>
>> I see a few problems on the Cambium form on 3.5.   They may be isolated
>> incidences but enough to have caution. Has anybody rolled it out to a large
>> number of APs and SMs?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>> 
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>> 
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <%28772%29%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Picostation M2HP replacement

[Eric Muehleisen]

Our guys love these to drop in and easily extend wifi. They are EOL and
will soon be gone. They are cheap, easy to setup and have great coverage.
What is a suitable replacement?

Unifi AP's are great, but I hate that they can't be configured easily
without the need for a controller. A dual-band Picostation would be just
perfect here.

Re: [AFMUG] Need COWS urgently

[Jaime Solorza]

Cellular?

On Sep 25, 2017 8:21 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Steve Jones]

we have found with config files, never, ever, under any circumstance load
one from one firmware to another, ever, disease and pestulence always
follow.

its irritating because we load a default config into each unit before
deployment, so each firmware we upgrade a bench unit, factory default it,
manually rebuild the entire config and export it.

cnmaestro onboarding and passwords are almost always jacked regardless

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But the
> one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves around
> saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will just to go
> 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come back from the
> 'applying' state.
>
> And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle to
> access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.
>
> I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing
> with the Slow GUI.
>
> On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
>
> What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are not
> having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium forums.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>
>
>
> Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't
> make it worth it.
>
>
>
> I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or
> 3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or so
> on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>
> How big is your network?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
> *To:* af < af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>
>
>
> I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our stuff now. I haven't
> noticed any major issues.
>
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2017 8:15 AM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>
> I see a few problems on the Cambium form on 3.5.   They may be isolated
> incidences but enough to have caution. Has anybody rolled it out to a large
> number of APs and SMs?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772-564-6800 <%28772%29%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Nate Burke]

I haven't spent any time on the forums, or opened any tickets.   But the 
one thing I've noticed from my little usage of 3.4 and 3.5 revolves 
around saving config changes.  Click the save button, and radio will 
just to go 'applying' for several seconds, may or may not actually come 
back from the 'applying' state.


And loading in a backup config file requires the radio to power cycle to 
access the radio, it's like it locks the IP portion.


I'm sticking with 2.6.2 for almost everything for now, and just dealing 
with the Slow GUI.


On 9/25/2017 12:42 PM, Paul McCall wrote:


What bugs have you actually experienced? It seems that others are not 
having major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium 
forums.


Paul

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that 
doesn't make it worth it.


I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or 
3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote:


I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a
hundred or so on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand
customers on ePMP.

On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall" > wrote:

How big is your network?

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
*To:* af >
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our stuff now. I
haven't noticed any major issues.

On Sep 23, 2017 8:15 AM, "Paul McCall" > wrote:

I see a few problems on the Cambium form on 3.5.   They
may be isolated incidences but enough to have caution. Has
anybody rolled it out to a large number of APs and SMs?

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway



Vero Beach, FL 32962



772-564-6800 

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Paul McCall]

What bugs have you actually experienced?  It seems that others are not having 
major issues with 3.5.  a few things as mentioned on Cambium forums.

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't make it 
worth it.

I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or 3.4...but 
not at the cost of the bugs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or so on 
3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP.


On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall" 
> wrote:
How big is your network?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
To: af >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our stuff now. I haven't noticed 
any major issues.

On Sep 23, 2017 8:15 AM, "Paul McCall" 
> wrote:
I see a few problems on the Cambium form on 3.5.   They may be isolated 
incidences but enough to have caution. Has anybody rolled it out to a large 
number of APs and SMs?



Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie 
Highway
Vero Beach, FL 
32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Chuck McCown]

I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for 
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term care, 
fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be able to find 
its way onto military transport

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

  I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could get 
it there.


  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not 
sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need 
Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino


Yep, exactly what I said.





  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz  
wrote:

  It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring 
internet service.

  May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve 
our Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

  Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
  One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.
  Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any 
left who are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

  Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers 
(end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such 
functional infrastructure is of little value.

  (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just 
pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us 
will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service 
for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, 
from someone, from somewhere)

  These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything 
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose 
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers 
will pay for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  
wrote:

  Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events 
are humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.



  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
 wrote:

I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and 
general cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and 
utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. 
 Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to 
be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the 
towers here have most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  
What is there still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water 
infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  
wrote:


  With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, 
just cut and run 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
able to find its way onto military transport

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
> get it there.
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
>> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> Yep, exactly what I said.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
>>> internet service.
>>>
>>> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
>>> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>>>
>>> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>>> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
>>> Infrastructure.
>>> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
>>> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>>>
>>> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the
>>> Customers (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it,
>>> then such functional infrastructure is of little value.
>>>
>>> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just
>>> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of
>>> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free
>>> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get
>>> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere)
>>>
>>> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
>>> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
>>> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> 
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> 
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
>>> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
>>> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
>>> will pay for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
 humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
 internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
 internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
 to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
 pray, everything is dead in the water.


 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
 wrote:

> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> With PR having been 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mathew Howard]

I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
get it there.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> Yep, exactly what I said.
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
>> internet service.
>>
>> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
>> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>>
>> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
>> Infrastructure.
>> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
>> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>>
>> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers
>> (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such
>> functional infrastructure is of little value.
>>
>> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just
>> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of
>> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free
>> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get
>> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere)
>>
>> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
>> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
>> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> 
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> 
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
>> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
>> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
>> will pay for.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
>>> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
>>> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
 cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
 utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
 utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
 months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
 crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
 damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
 fried Ethernet from water infiltration
 But power is the major issue in the USVI also

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones 
 wrote:

 With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
 and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
 never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
 smartmeters and starbucks

 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

 Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
> lot of other Caribbean islands.

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Chuck McCown]

Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not sure if 
I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino


Yep, exactly what I said.




  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 




On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

  It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service.

  May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

  Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
  One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.
  Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any left 
who are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

  Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers 
(end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such 
functional infrastructure is of little value.

  (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere)

  These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything 
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose 
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers 
will pay for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are 
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.



  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House  
wrote:

I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general 
cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and 
utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. 
 Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to 
be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the 
towers here have most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  
What is there still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water 
infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  
wrote:


  With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just 
cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, 
never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have 
smartmeters and starbucks
  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier 
than a lot of other Caribbean islands.


On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
 wrote:

  I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind 
 and/or solar power.  


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  er...@northcentraltower.com
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291


  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
 wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mike Hammett]

Is PR ready to accept people and supplies? 

>From what we're hearing about PR, I assume people have to be self-sustaining 
>(food, water, etc.)? 

What methods are there for people getting large items like COWs, generators, 
tower sections, etc. down there? Can't just put it on a truck. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Gino A. Villarini"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 9:19:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 


Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded). Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.) 


From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Lewis Bergman < 
lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 





Yep, exactly what I said. 




Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 





It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service. 


May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 


Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure. 
Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ? Do we have any left who 
are able to use the service and pay for it ? 


Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end 
users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional 
infrastructure is of little value. 


(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere) 


These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such disasters unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years ! 


Regards. 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





From: "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 






It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else 
but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your 
shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay 
for. 










On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote: 











Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are 
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water. 






On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House < cr...@totalhighspeed.net > 
wrote: 






I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general cleanup 
like orphanages The power is the major issue. All poles and utilities are 
offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. Generators 
are being flown in every day word here is 6-9 months for power to be restored. 
Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here have 
most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing. What is there still 
is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone 

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 












With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and run 
now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never have to 
worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have smartmeters and 
starbucks 













On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie < 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: 
















Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot of 
other Caribbean islands. 





















On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser < er...@northcentraltower.com > 
wrote: 























I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind and/or solar 

[AFMUG] Need COWS urgently

[Gino A. Villarini]

Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Gino A. Villarini]

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

From: Af > on behalf of Lewis 
Bergman >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Yep, exactly what I said.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service.

May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living...

Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.
Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any left who 
are able to use the service and pay for it ?

Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end 
users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional 
infrastructure is of little value.

(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere)

These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 
Street
Miami, FL 
33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Lewis Bergman" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else 
but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your 
shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay 
for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are 
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
> wrote:
I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general cleanup 
like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and utilities are 
offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities.  Generators 
are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to be restored. 
Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here have 
most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  What is there 
still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration
But power is the major issue in the USVI also

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones 
> wrote:

With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and run 
now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never have to 
worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have smartmeters and 
starbucks
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
> 
wrote:
Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot of 
other Caribbean islands.


On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
> wrote:
I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Lewis Bergman]

Yep, exactly what I said.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
> internet service.
>
> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>
> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
> Infrastructure.
> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>
> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers
> (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such
> functional infrastructure is of little value.
>
> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing
> to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be
> around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a
> certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow,
> from someone, from somewhere)
>
> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> 
> Miami, FL 33155
> 
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
> will pay for.
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
>> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
>> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
>>> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
>>> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
>>> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
>>> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
>>> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
>>> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
>>> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
>>> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
>>> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
>>> smartmeters and starbucks
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
 lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>>
>>>

 On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <
 er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:

>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
>  and/or solar power.
>

>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
> wrote:
>
 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
>> that
>> may be optimistic.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>> �
>> I wish I still 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Faisal Imtiaz]

It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service. 

May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure. 
Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ? Do we have any left who 
are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end 
users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional 
infrastructure is of little value. 

(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere) 

These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such disasters unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years ! 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Lewis Bergman" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else 
> but
> what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your shirt
> trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay for.

> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline 
>> to
>> power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray,
>> everything is dead in the water.

>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House < cr...@totalhighspeed.net > 
>> wrote:

>>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general 
>>> cleanup
>>> like orphanages The power is the major issue. All poles and utilities are
>>> offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. Generators
>>> are being flown in every day word here is 6-9 months for power to be 
>>> restored.
>>> Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here 
>>> have
>>> most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing. What is there 
>>> still
>>> is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote:

 With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut 
 and run
 now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never 
 have to
 worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have smartmeters and
 starbucks

 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote:

> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a 
> lot of
> other Caribbean islands.
> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser < er...@northcentraltower.com 
> >
> wrote:

>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind and/or 
>> solar
>> power.

>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291

>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote:

>>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
>>> Existing
>>> supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. 
>>> I've been
>>> hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be 
>>> optimistic.

>>> bp
>>> 
>>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering 
 of anyone
 on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 
 meter and HF
 is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
 damage.��
 Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Lewis Bergman]

It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
will pay for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
>> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
>> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
>> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
>> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
>> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
>> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
>> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  wrote:
>>
>> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
>> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
>> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
>> smartmeters and starbucks
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
 solar power.

>>>

 Erich Kaiser
 North Central Tower
 er...@northcentraltower.com
 Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
 Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>


 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
 wrote:

>>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
> that
> may be optimistic.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
> �
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering
> of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
> �
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2
> meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any
> infrastructure damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has
> fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
> �
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
> that work with emergency preparedness.�
> �
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>
>
>

>>
>

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