Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-12-23 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok everyone.. the TODO still has stuff in there, but I fixed all the critical 
things out. If you're subscribed to amsn-commits, you 
probably have been flooded, sorry about that :p
What this means is basically that what I wanted to be done for 0.97 is done.. 
so the current SVN version is *ready* to be labeled 
0.97... I don't want to do all this alone, so I need your help.. if anyone can 
spare some time, that would be great. I know most of you 
are busy, it's christmas, you wanna be with your family, etc.. and I respect 
that. I can take care of finalizing the code (changing 
version variable and date), and preparing the windows installer. Phil said he 
has some free time, so I guess he can do the 
autopackage.. Tom, we'll need you for the Mac binaries, I hope you'll have 
time, otherwise, don't worry, family is more important.. 
we'll manage somehow :)
So there isn't much to do, but if some people can spare a few minutes, that 
would still help, or at least encourage us (we're a team, 
so feeling lonely on a release is not great).

My current aim is to get this released for christmas.. which means in two 
days.. for december 25th.. if we can't get it for christmas, 
then the last deadline I'll be willing to have would be 31st of the december 
(for new year's eve). 
What do you guys think? anyone think I forgot something? anyting pending needs 
to be commited? etc.. ? keep me informed.

p.s.: sorry for the short notice.

KaKaRoTo


On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:05:58AM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Hey,
 it's been up for months, but I never thought it was worth mentioning it 
 here.. but since Square87 seems to have a lot of free time and 
 keeps sending us patches, maybe it would be nice if the patches we receive 
 actually fix one of the bugs we have for the 0.97 TODO...
 So here's a link to the TODO list I have for 0.97 : 
 http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Forums_TODO
 
 It's a wiki page with bugs/features/improvements, anything that was suggested 
 and had some importance over the forums. There are maybe 
 100 other forums pages I have in my opera sessions but I don't feel like 
 going through them now (or soon).
 So, if anyone feels like coding, or wants to see 0.97 out of the door soon, 
 then start fixing the bugs that appear in that link, that's 
 the best place to go..
 Have fun!
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-12-23 Thread Sander Hoentjen
I probably can do stuff tomorrow (starting in about 12 hours)

On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 15:33 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 ok everyone.. the TODO still has stuff in there, but I fixed all the critical 
 things out. If you're subscribed to amsn-commits, you 
 probably have been flooded, sorry about that :p
 What this means is basically that what I wanted to be done for 0.97 is done.. 
 so the current SVN version is *ready* to be labeled 
 0.97... I don't want to do all this alone, so I need your help.. if anyone 
 can spare some time, that would be great. I know most of you 
 are busy, it's christmas, you wanna be with your family, etc.. and I respect 
 that. I can take care of finalizing the code (changing 
 version variable and date), and preparing the windows installer. Phil said he 
 has some free time, so I guess he can do the 
 autopackage.. Tom, we'll need you for the Mac binaries, I hope you'll have 
 time, otherwise, don't worry, family is more important.. 
 we'll manage somehow :)
 So there isn't much to do, but if some people can spare a few minutes, that 
 would still help, or at least encourage us (we're a team, 
 so feeling lonely on a release is not great).
 
 My current aim is to get this released for christmas.. which means in two 
 days.. for december 25th.. if we can't get it for christmas, 
 then the last deadline I'll be willing to have would be 31st of the december 
 (for new year's eve). 
 What do you guys think? anyone think I forgot something? anyting pending 
 needs to be commited? etc.. ? keep me informed.
 
 p.s.: sorry for the short notice.
 
 KaKaRoTo
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:05:58AM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  Hey,
  it's been up for months, but I never thought it was worth mentioning it 
  here.. but since Square87 seems to have a lot of free time and 
  keeps sending us patches, maybe it would be nice if the patches we receive 
  actually fix one of the bugs we have for the 0.97 TODO...
  So here's a link to the TODO list I have for 0.97 : 
  http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Forums_TODO
  
  It's a wiki page with bugs/features/improvements, anything that was 
  suggested and had some importance over the forums. There are maybe 
  100 other forums pages I have in my opera sessions but I don't feel like 
  going through them now (or soon).
  So, if anyone feels like coding, or wants to see 0.97 out of the door soon, 
  then start fixing the bugs that appear in that link, that's 
  the best place to go..
  Have fun!
  
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-12-23 Thread Youness Alaoui
cool thx! I'll be sleeping in 12 hours, but once I wake up we should talk on 
msn or irc to organize things...

KKRT

On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:00:40PM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
 I probably can do stuff tomorrow (starting in about 12 hours)
 
 On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 15:33 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  ok everyone.. the TODO still has stuff in there, but I fixed all the 
  critical things out. If you're subscribed to amsn-commits, you 
  probably have been flooded, sorry about that :p
  What this means is basically that what I wanted to be done for 0.97 is 
  done.. so the current SVN version is *ready* to be labeled 
  0.97... I don't want to do all this alone, so I need your help.. if anyone 
  can spare some time, that would be great. I know most of you 
  are busy, it's christmas, you wanna be with your family, etc.. and I 
  respect that. I can take care of finalizing the code (changing 
  version variable and date), and preparing the windows installer. Phil said 
  he has some free time, so I guess he can do the 
  autopackage.. Tom, we'll need you for the Mac binaries, I hope you'll have 
  time, otherwise, don't worry, family is more important.. 
  we'll manage somehow :)
  So there isn't much to do, but if some people can spare a few minutes, that 
  would still help, or at least encourage us (we're a team, 
  so feeling lonely on a release is not great).
  
  My current aim is to get this released for christmas.. which means in two 
  days.. for december 25th.. if we can't get it for christmas, 
  then the last deadline I'll be willing to have would be 31st of the 
  december (for new year's eve). 
  What do you guys think? anyone think I forgot something? anyting pending 
  needs to be commited? etc.. ? keep me informed.
  
  p.s.: sorry for the short notice.
  
  KaKaRoTo
  
  
  On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:05:58AM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   Hey,
   it's been up for months, but I never thought it was worth mentioning it 
   here.. but since Square87 seems to have a lot of free time and 
   keeps sending us patches, maybe it would be nice if the patches we 
   receive actually fix one of the bugs we have for the 0.97 TODO...
   So here's a link to the TODO list I have for 0.97 : 
   http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Forums_TODO
   
   It's a wiki page with bugs/features/improvements, anything that was 
   suggested and had some importance over the forums. There are maybe 
   100 other forums pages I have in my opera sessions but I don't feel like 
   going through them now (or soon).
   So, if anyone feels like coding, or wants to see 0.97 out of the door 
   soon, then start fixing the bugs that appear in that link, that's 
   the best place to go..
   Have fun!
   
   
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-12-17 Thread Henrique Cesar Ulbrich
Historiadores acreditam que, 
em Segunda 17 Dez 2007, Youness Alaoui disse:
 So, if anyone feels like coding, or wants to see 0.97 out of the door soon,
 then start fixing the bugs that appear in that link, that's the best place
 to go..
 Have fun!

Can I have a Subversion account or should I send the patches here?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-12-17 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
Send the patch here.

On Dec 17, 2007 5:48 PM, Henrique Cesar Ulbrich
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 Historiadores acreditam que,
 em Segunda 17 Dez 2007, Youness Alaoui disse:
  So, if anyone feels like coding, or wants to see 0.97 out of the door soon,
  then start fixing the bugs that appear in that link, that's the best place
  to go..
  Have fun!

 Can I have a Subversion account or should I send the patches here?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed :
- Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)

Changed :
- Finish the new Skin
into :
- Create a new fancy default DP


Complete 0.97 TODO:
- Create a new fancy default DP
- Update FAQ...


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@

Well, the color slider seems to be the only one to work acceptably with 
ov511, so I set it to 0 and restarted amsn, and it was still 0. Unless 
this is not what the thread is about... (any brain cleaning products 
around?)

 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  Can anyone confirm this : 
  http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
  It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by 
  many many users, but I don't have a 
  webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of that 
  please? 
  thanks
  
  KKRT
  

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok, we're almost done for the release. Phil and I planned it to be for today! 
this is why I didn't sleep yet, 
trying to finish this DDP merge! 
Now, all that's left is to test it and make sure I didn't screw up anything too 
big to slip by... 
I also think that the current DP in the skin AND the 'connecting' gif are not 
good. the two faces, I don't like 
that, it's.. beurk :s I mean, I'd like to see something nice, colorful, cute, 
whatever.. not two big buddy 
faces. I don't know if others agree with me on that. Anyways, Gus, could you 
please change that ? for the 
connecting, can it be something related to the 'connecting' action ? like for 
example a PC and a link to a globe 
and the progress would be 'data' being transfered through the link cable or 
something? or I don't know soemthing 
to show that we are 'trying to connect'.
And the new default DP (amsn.png) could you make it somehow different ? I don't 
like the buddy icons. I mean, 
the old aMSN DP was good and I know a lot of people who didn't change it, but 
since we changed skin, I think 
everyone changed his DP :p and it's too bad. 
Maybe keep the old DP ? just remove the '.linux' part from it or something ? 
anyways..
we're almost done now!

KKRT

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 06:34:15AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Removed :
 - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)
 
 Changed :
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 - Create a new fancy default DP
 
 
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 - Update FAQ...
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok, well, 'which slider works' is another issue, but can you try the color 
slider to some other values apart from 0 ? see if it really 
keeps the exact same value after you restart (maybe you need to restart the PC 
or just change those values using another application to 
see if amsn changes them back to what they're supposed to be or if it does 
nothing but as long as you didn't reboot, the kernel keeps 
the old value saved).

Also try to have a visual effect on the cam, so for example, you put it in 
black and white (color=0) and see if you get it blackwhite 
next time (maybe the setting is set to 0, but the image doesn't reflect that 
setting?)

KKRT

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:40:56PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@
 
 Well, the color slider seems to be the only one to work acceptably with 
 ov511, so I set it to 0 and restarted amsn, and it was still 0. Unless 
 this is not what the thread is about... (any brain cleaning products 
 around?)
 
  On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   Can anyone confirm this : 
   http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
   It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by 
   many many users, but I don't have a 
   webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of that 
   please? 
   thanks
   
   KKRT
   
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Well...
Main trouble comes from autobright webcams which adjust themselves the
brightness. I know that gspca has a strange way to that : if you change
color it will reset brightness setting or sth like that. That's a bit
strange and I still wonder if it is V4L compliant... Anyway, I would say
that's not a so important as there is only one person who reported that
and he is idle now...
Phil

Youness Alaoui a écrit :
 ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@
 
 
 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Can anyone confirm this : 
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
 It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by many 
 many users, but I don't have a 
 webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of that 
 please? 
 thanks

 KKRT

 On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 09:27:10PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Removed :
 - Add new smileys for the *help, *9mil, etc.. all those new IM things
 (list is *sierra *bgca *9mil *hsus *komen *one *mssoc *care *acs
 *oxfam *mod *help *red+u *unicef *wwf *naf )

 Changed :
 - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
 and fallback on old method.
 Into
 - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)

 Comments :
 What's left now from the new skin ? sounds ? anything else ? we release now 
 ?

 Complete 0.97 TODO:
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Update FAQ... 
 - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)




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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
not one person, many people reported it...

KKRT

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 01:17:40PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
 Well...
 Main trouble comes from autobright webcams which adjust themselves the
 brightness. I know that gspca has a strange way to that : if you change
 color it will reset brightness setting or sth like that. That's a bit
 strange and I still wonder if it is V4L compliant... Anyway, I would say
 that's not a so important as there is only one person who reported that
 and he is idle now...
 Phil
 
 Youness Alaoui a écrit :
  ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@
  
  
  On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  Can anyone confirm this : 
  http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
  It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by 
  many many users, but I don't have a 
  webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of that 
  please? 
  thanks
 
  KKRT
 
  On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 09:27:10PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  Removed :
  - Add new smileys for the *help, *9mil, etc.. all those new IM things
  (list is *sierra *bgca *9mil *hsus *komen *one *mssoc *care *acs
  *oxfam *mod *help *red+u *unicef *wwf *naf )
 
  Changed :
  - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
  and fallback on old method.
  Into
  - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)
 
  Comments :
  What's left now from the new skin ? sounds ? anything else ? we release 
  now ?
 
  Complete 0.97 TODO:
  - Finish the new Skin
  - Update FAQ... 
  - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

OK, yes, you were right. I fired up 2 aMSN instances and set the color 
slider to a very small value (303) on the testaccount. The other one 
immediately set color to 256, not 303. I closed the testaccount, set it 
back to a decent value on the normal account, then started the testaccount 
again, it had more or less the decent value set. The visual effect 
corresponded to the slider value.

On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 ok, well, 'which slider works' is another issue, but can you try the color 
 slider to some other values apart from 0 ? see if it really 
 keeps the exact same value after you restart (maybe you need to restart the 
 PC or just change those values using another application to 
 see if amsn changes them back to what they're supposed to be or if it does 
 nothing but as long as you didn't reboot, the kernel keeps 
 the old value saved).
 
 Also try to have a visual effect on the cam, so for example, you put it in 
 black and white (color=0) and see if you get it blackwhite 
 next time (maybe the setting is set to 0, but the image doesn't reflect that 
 setting?)
 
 KKRT
 
 On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:40:56PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  
   ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@
  
  Well, the color slider seems to be the only one to work acceptably with 
  ov511, so I set it to 0 and restarted amsn, and it was still 0. Unless 
  this is not what the thread is about... (any brain cleaning products 
  around?)
  
   On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
Can anyone confirm this : 
http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by 
many many users, but I don't have a 
webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of 
that please? 
thanks

KKRT

  

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread giopas
Youness Alaoui ha scritto:
 ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@


 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   
 Can anyone confirm this : 
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
 It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by many 
 many users, but I don't have a 
 webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of that 
 please? 
 thanks

 KKRT

I've tried to have a look at that post, but honestly I didn't understand
what the bug is about ..

If anyone can explain it better, since I have a webcam (uvc driver for a
quickcam 5000pro) maybe I can help you go deeper in it (just tell me
what to do)...

enjoy, ;)
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok, hard to understand what you did, but ok. in other words, at the end, the 
testaccount should have reset the value to 303, instead of 
getting the 'decent value' when you started it.
btw, the 256/303 is not problematic I think. as long as it's not 6 vs. 
10... 
anyways, it just confirms it, it doesn't reset the values... can you look at 
your config settings to see if it saved all the values 
correctly in the config ? it either doesn't save the value (so you get  
instead of 303:0:0:0) or it doesn't set it when you open the 
cam (I doubt that though).

KKRT

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 01:21:48PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 
 OK, yes, you were right. I fired up 2 aMSN instances and set the color 
 slider to a very small value (303) on the testaccount. The other one 
 immediately set color to 256, not 303. I closed the testaccount, set it 
 back to a decent value on the normal account, then started the testaccount 
 again, it had more or less the decent value set. The visual effect 
 corresponded to the slider value.
 
 On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  ok, well, 'which slider works' is another issue, but can you try the color 
  slider to some other values apart from 0 ? see if it really 
  keeps the exact same value after you restart (maybe you need to restart the 
  PC or just change those values using another application to 
  see if amsn changes them back to what they're supposed to be or if it does 
  nothing but as long as you didn't reboot, the kernel keeps 
  the old value saved).
  
  Also try to have a visual effect on the cam, so for example, you put it in 
  black and white (color=0) and see if you get it blackwhite 
  next time (maybe the setting is set to 0, but the image doesn't reflect 
  that setting?)
  
  KKRT
  
  On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:40:56PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
   On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   
ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@
   
   Well, the color slider seems to be the only one to work acceptably with 
   ov511, so I set it to 0 and restarted amsn, and it was still 0. Unless 
   this is not what the thread is about... (any brain cleaning products 
   around?)
   
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Can anyone confirm this : 
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
 It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed 
 by many many users, but I don't have a 
 webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of 
 that please? 
 thanks
 
 KKRT
 
   
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Youness Alaoui

contact vivia for more info, she understood the problem. I think she's on IRC 
right now... 
and I'm off to bed.
gn all

KKRT
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 01:42:31PM +0200, giopas wrote:
 Youness Alaoui ha scritto:
  ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@
 
 
  On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:

  Can anyone confirm this : 
  http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
  It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by 
  many many users, but I don't have a 
  webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of that 
  please? 
  thanks
 
  KKRT
 
 I've tried to have a look at that post, but honestly I didn't understand
 what the bug is about ..
 
 If anyone can explain it better, since I have a webcam (uvc driver for a
 quickcam 5000pro) maybe I can help you go deeper in it (just tell me
 what to do)...
 
 enjoy, ;)
 giopas
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I fixed it...
Phil

Youness Alaoui a écrit :
 ok, can you debug with 'puts' to see if the lines that reset the settings are 
 ever called ? and if any error 
 occurs there ?
 
 KKRT
 
 On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 01:39:41PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
entry
   attributewebcam/dev/video0:0/attribute
   value16384:51200:32768:303/value
/entry

 but the 303 setting is ignored :(

 so yes, the settings are stored but never restored...

 On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 ok, hard to understand what you did, but ok. in other words, at the end, 
 the testaccount should have reset the value to 303, instead of 
 getting the 'decent value' when you started it.
 btw, the 256/303 is not problematic I think. as long as it's not 6 vs. 
 10... 
 anyways, it just confirms it, it doesn't reset the values... can you look 
 at your config settings to see if it saved all the values 
 correctly in the config ? it either doesn't save the value (so you get  
 instead of 303:0:0:0) or it doesn't set it when you open the 
 cam (I doubt that though).

 KKRT

 On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 01:21:48PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 OK, yes, you were right. I fired up 2 aMSN instances and set the color 
 slider to a very small value (303) on the testaccount. The other one 
 immediately set color to 256, not 303. I closed the testaccount, set it 
 back to a decent value on the normal account, then started the testaccount 
 again, it had more or less the decent value set. The visual effect 
 corresponded to the slider value.

 On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 ok, well, 'which slider works' is another issue, but can you try the 
 color slider to some other values apart from 0 ? see if it really 
 keeps the exact same value after you restart (maybe you need to restart 
 the PC or just change those values using another application to 
 see if amsn changes them back to what they're supposed to be or if it 
 does nothing but as long as you didn't reboot, the kernel keeps 
 the old value saved).

 Also try to have a visual effect on the cam, so for example, you put it 
 in black and white (color=0) and see if you get it blackwhite 
 next time (maybe the setting is set to 0, but the image doesn't reflect 
 that setting?)

 KKRT

 On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:40:56PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 ok.. noone to confirm this ??? :@
 Well, the color slider seems to be the only one to work acceptably 
 with 
 ov511, so I set it to 0 and restarted amsn, and it was still 0. Unless 
 this is not what the thread is about... (any brain cleaning products 
 around?)

 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:55:33AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Can anyone confirm this : 
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
 It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed 
 by many many users, but I don't have a 
 webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of 
 that please? 
 thanks

 KKRT

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Gustavo A. Dí­az




I will try... maybe tomorrow.. i am really tired right now...

Cheers.

Youness Alaoui escribió:

  ok, we're almost done for the release. Phil and I planned it to be for today! this is why I didn't sleep yet, 
trying to finish this DDP merge! 
Now, all that's left is to test it and make sure I didn't screw up anything too big to slip by... 
I also think that the current DP in the skin AND the 'connecting' gif are not good. the two faces, I don't like 
that, it's.. beurk :s I mean, I'd like to see something nice, colorful, cute, whatever.. not two big buddy 
faces. I don't know if others agree with me on that. Anyways, Gus, could you please change that ? for the 
connecting, can it be something related to the 'connecting' action ? like for example a PC and a link to a globe 
and the progress would be 'data' being transfered through the link cable or something? or I don't know soemthing 
to show that we are 'trying to connect'.
And the new default DP (amsn.png) could you make it somehow different ? I don't like the buddy icons. I mean, 
the old aMSN DP was good and I know a lot of people who didn't change it, but since we changed skin, I think 
everyone changed his DP :p and it's too bad. 
Maybe keep the old DP ? just remove the '.linux' part from it or something ? 
anyways..
we're almost done now!

KKRT

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 06:34:15AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  
  
Removed :
- Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)

Changed :
- Finish the new Skin
into :
- Create a new fancy default DP


Complete 0.97 TODO:
- Create a new fancy default DP
- Update FAQ...


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
sure no problem.

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 08:37:53PM -0300, Gustavo A. Dí­az wrote:
 I will try... maybe tomorrow.. i am really tired right now...
 
 Cheers.
 
 Youness Alaoui escribió:
 ok, we're almost done for the release. Phil and I planned it to be for 
 today! this is why I didn't sleep yet, trying to finish this DDP merge! 
 Now, all that's left is to test it and make sure I didn't screw up 
 anything too big to slip by... I also think that the current DP in the 
 skin AND the 'connecting' gif are not good. the two faces, I don't like 
 that, it's.. beurk :s I mean, I'd like to see something nice, colorful, 
 cute, whatever.. not two big buddy faces. I don't know if others agree 
 with me on that. Anyways, Gus, could you please change that ? for the 
 connecting, can it be something related to the 'connecting' action ? like 
 for example a PC and a link to a globe and the progress would be 'data' 
 being transfered through the link cable or something? or I don't know 
 soemthing to show that we are 'trying to connect'.
 And the new default DP (amsn.png) could you make it somehow different ? I 
 don't like the buddy icons. I mean, the old aMSN DP was good and I know a 
 lot of people who didn't change it, but since we changed skin, I think 
 everyone changed his DP :p and it's too bad. Maybe keep the old DP ? just 
 remove the '.linux' part from it or something ? anyways..
 we're almost done now!
 
 KKRT
 
 On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 06:34:15AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   
 Removed :
 - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)
 
 Changed :
 - Finish the new Skin
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 - Create a new fancy default DP
 
 
 Complete 0.97 TODO:
 - Create a new fancy default DP
 - Update FAQ...
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-16 Thread Youness Alaoui
Can anyone confirm this : 
http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2970
It's been sitting in my TODO for months now, and it's been confirmed by many 
many users, but I don't have a 
webcam to actually test if this is true, so can anyone take care of that 
please? 
thanks

KKRT

On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 09:27:10PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Removed :
 - Add new smileys for the *help, *9mil, etc.. all those new IM things
 (list is *sierra *bgca *9mil *hsus *komen *one *mssoc *care *acs
 *oxfam *mod *help *red+u *unicef *wwf *naf )
 
 Changed :
 - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
 and fallback on old method.
 Into
 - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)
 
 Comments :
 What's left now from the new skin ? sounds ? anything else ? we release now ?
 
 Complete 0.97 TODO:
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Update FAQ... 
 - Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-14 Thread Katlyn
Yeah, chat window resize is a bit laggy for me, too, under Kubuntu. 
Also, I don't think that aMSN remembers the size of a resized chat 
window anymore, since when I resized it on the laptop after a fresh SVN 
install, it didn't keep it when I opened a window again. The latter is 
unimportant, though.. and I might just be bringing up nothing... thought 
I should mention it anyhow.
~Kalinda

Sebastian Alfredo Salvino wrote:
 - New skin chat window resize under WinXP is incredible slow!
 - File transfer progress bar still is do not reflecting the real progress %

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-14 Thread Gustavo A. Díaz

Today i will commit the last pixmap for the skin, and it will be done...
so...this is the time to suggest something...

2007/5/13, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Removed :
- Add new smileys for the *help, *9mil, etc.. all those new IM things
(list is *sierra *bgca *9mil *hsus *komen *one *mssoc *care *acs
*oxfam *mod *help *red+u *unicef *wwf *naf )

Changed :
- Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
and fallback on old method.
Into
- Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)

Comments :
What's left now from the new skin ? sounds ? anything else ? we release
now ?

Complete 0.97 TODO:
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ...
- Fix windows icons (they now have some weird blue colors...)




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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-14 Thread Gustavo A. Díaz

Is very easy Sebastian... delete all the box_* pixmaps...

2007/5/14, Sebastian Alfredo Salvino [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


If so perhaps it might be a good idea to allow us to disable those pixmaps
to a plain window.

Anyways I will try renaming those pixmaps today.

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Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

I don't think that this is cause of the skin AT all...
Remember that the Main window of aMSN has backgrounds and some extra
pixmaps.. try to delete those and test the speed again...


2007/5/14, Katlyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Yeah, chat window resize is a bit laggy for me, too, under
Kubuntu.
Also, I don't think that aMSN remembers the size of a resized chat
window anymore, since when I resized it on the laptop after a
fresh
SVN
install, it didn't keep it when I opened a window again. The
latter
is
unimportant, though.. and I might just be bringing up nothing...
thought
I should mention it anyhow.
~Kalinda

Sebastian Alfredo Salvino wrote:
 - New skin chat window resize under WinXP is incredible slow!
 - File transfer progress bar still is do not reflecting the real
progress %


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-14 Thread Gustavo A. Díaz

I just pointed out you to try that, but the skin has nothing to do with the
chatwindow problem fo yours... and beside i do not use WinXP to test :P

2007/5/14, Sebastian Alfredo Salvino [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Gustavo, the chat window is still preaty laggy even when I had renamed al
box_*.

-Original Message-
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Díaz
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:31 AM
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

Is very easy Sebastian... delete all the box_* pixmaps...


2007/5/14, Sebastian Alfredo Salvino [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

If so perhaps it might be a good idea to allow us to disable those
pixmaps
to a plain window.

Anyways I will try renaming those pixmaps today.

-Original Message-
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Gustavo A.
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:16 AM
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

I don't think that this is cause of the skin AT all...
Remember that the Main window of aMSN has backgrounds and some
extra

pixmaps.. try to delete those and test the speed again...


2007/5/14, Katlyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Yeah, chat window resize is a bit laggy for me, too, under
Kubuntu.
Also, I don't think that aMSN remembers the size of a
resized chat
window anymore, since when I resized it on the laptop
after
a fresh
SVN
install, it didn't keep it when I opened a window again.
The
latter
is
unimportant, though.. and I might just be bringing up
nothing...
thought
I should mention it anyhow.
~Kalinda

Sebastian Alfredo Salvino wrote:
 - New skin chat window resize under WinXP is incredible
slow!
 - File transfer progress bar still is do not reflecting
the real
progress %



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-14 Thread Bart O
I guess (so +1 for the one allready said this)  it all began after
Kakaroto (?) changed the windowscript to keep the typezone in normal
height when you resized the window. I guess I read that on the forums
this week but I am not so sure

Grz,
Bart


2007/5/14, Gustavo A. Díaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I just pointed out you to try that, but the skin has nothing to do with the
 chatwindow problem fo yours... and beside i do not use WinXP to test :P


 2007/5/14, Sebastian Alfredo Salvino  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Gustavo, the chat window is still preaty laggy even when I had renamed al
  box_*.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Gustavo A.
  Díaz
  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:31 AM
  To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
  Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO
 
  Is very easy Sebastian... delete all the box_* pixmaps...
 
 
  2007/5/14, Sebastian Alfredo Salvino [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  If so perhaps it might be a good idea to allow us to disable those
  pixmaps
  to a plain window.
 
  Anyways I will try renaming those pixmaps today.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Gustavo A.
  Díaz
  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:16 AM
  To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
  Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO
 
  I don't think that this is cause of the skin AT all...
  Remember that the Main window of aMSN has backgrounds and some
 extra
 
  pixmaps.. try to delete those and test the speed again...
 
 
  2007/5/14, Katlyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Yeah, chat window resize is a bit laggy for me, too, under
  Kubuntu.
  Also, I don't think that aMSN remembers the size of a
  resized chat
  window anymore, since when I resized it on the laptop
 after
  a fresh
  SVN
  install, it didn't keep it when I opened a window again.
 The
  latter
  is
  unimportant, though.. and I might just be bringing up
  nothing...
  thought
  I should mention it anyhow.
  ~Kalinda
 
  Sebastian Alfredo Salvino wrote:
   - New skin chat window resize under WinXP is incredible
  slow!
   - File transfer progress bar still is do not reflecting
  the real
  progress %
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-12 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 WHAT THE FUCK???

what the fuck yourself 

 FIRST, this is the 0.98 TODO mail thread, so why the fuck would you spam it 
 with this memleak shit ? 

Because I renamed it to 0.97 TODO, so it's not the same thread anymore.

 second, why would you reply to this thread, rename the subject into 0.97 TODO 
 and talk about something other 
 than 0.98 TODO ?

See above.

 third, which memleak are you talking about  I heard NOTHING 
 about ANY memleak, so now, you say 
 NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first while I haven't heard of 
 anything fucking memleak... try to 
 make sure you introduce the subject next time! maybe something like 'btw, we 
 found a memleak, let's try and fix 
 it before releasing'

It had been discussed on the forum and on irc. Not my fault if you don't 
know it.
 
 fourth, if it's a gnotify memleak then it has nothing to do with amsn, since 
 it's a plugin, so unofficial, so 
 unsupported, so it won't prevent us from releasing 0.97.

When i wrote the first mail i had no idea, ubitux told me. Phil 
investigated it and said it's not in gnotify itself.

 and finally, I like to have my threads clean, I have one fucking thread about 
 0.97 TODO, and everything in it is 
 related to 0.97 TODO.. NO SPAM now, I have this 0.98 TODO thread with 
 already 5 mails in it without ANY 
 relation to the TODO, and this thread became 'dirty', so I'll have to write a 
 new mail so it becomes into a 
 separate thread in my mail program just so we can discuss the damn 0.98 TODO 
 list.

Not my fault if your mail program thinks it's the same thread even if the 
subj is changed. If someone changes the subject , obviously they start 
talking about sth else.

 NO SPAM PLEASE!

I should start approving some spam so you should really know what NO SPAM 
means...

 KaKaRoTo
 
 On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:40:37PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  
   The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get 
   the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and 
   start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list :
  
  NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
  for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
  phil we couldn't figure out the leak
  
   
   - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
   - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code 
   and using events.
   - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in 
   the custom status/autoaway message : 
   (http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)
   
   
   
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-12 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Hey,
what the fuck ??? :p
Please calm down :
Youness we know you finished your job but that's not a reason to be so
nervous !! Relax
About this 0.97 thread : Vivia you renamed it but you did reply so your
Mail client added a References field in your headers :
 37 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 39 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So everybody who display its mail using threads view will see it as a
children of these previously referenced mails...
Anyway, the memleak seems to be in Tcl/Tk8.5 as after some heavy tests,
with Tcl/Tk8.4 the same code doesn't leak... I will investigate in
Tcl8.5 versions to see if some of them are good...
Phil
PS And please stop say fuck in every sentence :@ We are not in United
States and we are well educated people :p

Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
 On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
 WHAT THE FUCK???
 
 what the fuck yourself 
 
 FIRST, this is the 0.98 TODO mail thread, so why the fuck would you spam it 
 with this memleak shit ? 
 
 Because I renamed it to 0.97 TODO, so it's not the same thread anymore.
 
 second, why would you reply to this thread, rename the subject into 0.97 
 TODO and talk about something other 
 than 0.98 TODO ?
 
 See above.
 
 third, which memleak are you talking about  I heard NOTHING 
 about ANY memleak, so now, you say 
 NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first while I haven't heard of 
 anything fucking memleak... try to 
 make sure you introduce the subject next time! maybe something like 'btw, we 
 found a memleak, let's try and fix 
 it before releasing'
 
 It had been discussed on the forum and on irc. Not my fault if you don't 
 know it.
  
 fourth, if it's a gnotify memleak then it has nothing to do with amsn, since 
 it's a plugin, so unofficial, so 
 unsupported, so it won't prevent us from releasing 0.97.
 
 When i wrote the first mail i had no idea, ubitux told me. Phil 
 investigated it and said it's not in gnotify itself.
 
 and finally, I like to have my threads clean, I have one fucking thread 
 about 0.97 TODO, and everything in it is 
 related to 0.97 TODO.. NO SPAM now, I have this 0.98 TODO thread with 
 already 5 mails in it without ANY 
 relation to the TODO, and this thread became 'dirty', so I'll have to write 
 a new mail so it becomes into a 
 separate thread in my mail program just so we can discuss the damn 0.98 TODO 
 list.
 
 Not my fault if your mail program thinks it's the same thread even if the 
 subj is changed. If someone changes the subject , obviously they start 
 talking about sth else.
 
 NO SPAM PLEASE!
 
 I should start approving some spam so you should really know what NO SPAM 
 means...
 
 KaKaRoTo

 On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:40:37PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get 
 the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and 
 start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list :
 NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
 for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
 phil we couldn't figure out the leak

 - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
 - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and 
 using events.
 - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in 
 the custom status/autoaway message : 
 (http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-12 Thread Youness Alaoui

On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:02:22AM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  WHAT THE FUCK???
 
 what the fuck yourself 
 
NC

  FIRST, this is the 0.98 TODO mail thread, so why the fuck would you spam it 
  with this memleak shit ? 
 
 Because I renamed it to 0.97 TODO, so it's not the same thread anymore.
 
See Phil's answer

  second, why would you reply to this thread, rename the subject into 0.97 
  TODO and talk about something other 
  than 0.98 TODO ?
 
 See above.

see above
 
  third, which memleak are you talking about  I heard NOTHING 
  about ANY memleak, so now, you say 
  NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first while I haven't heard of 
  anything fucking memleak... try to 
  make sure you introduce the subject next time! maybe something like 'btw, 
  we found a memleak, let's try and fix 
  it before releasing'
 
 It had been discussed on the forum and on irc. Not my fault if you don't 
 know it.
  
maybeon irc, but definitely not on forums because I've been reading everything 
from the forums. There was a 
memleak talk in ColoredNick plugin thread, about the new CL code Phil added, 
but then he fixed it, then there 
was so more talk but unrelated to amsn since it's a plugin.

  fourth, if it's a gnotify memleak then it has nothing to do with amsn, 
  since it's a plugin, so unofficial, so 
  unsupported, so it won't prevent us from releasing 0.97.
 
 When i wrote the first mail i had no idea, ubitux told me. Phil 
 investigated it and said it's not in gnotify itself.
 
yeah, also investigated, not in gnotify for sure.

  and finally, I like to have my threads clean, I have one fucking thread 
  about 0.97 TODO, and everything in it is 
  related to 0.97 TODO.. NO SPAM now, I have this 0.98 TODO thread with 
  already 5 mails in it without ANY 
  relation to the TODO, and this thread became 'dirty', so I'll have to write 
  a new mail so it becomes into a 
  separate thread in my mail program just so we can discuss the damn 0.98 
  TODO list.
 
 Not my fault if your mail program thinks it's the same thread even if the 
 subj is changed. If someone changes the subject , obviously they start 
 talking about sth else.
 

the subject has nothing to do with it, it's the In-Reply-To header (or 
something), the header is there for a 
reason, and it's not 'obvious' that it's a new thread just because you 
changed the subject.

  NO SPAM PLEASE!
 
 I should start approving some spam so you should really know what NO SPAM 
 means...
 

NC

  KaKaRoTo
  
  On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:40:37PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
   On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   
The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get 
the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch 
and 
start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list :
   
   NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
   for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
   phil we couldn't figure out the leak
   

- HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
- Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code 
and using events.
- very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip 
in the custom status/autoaway message : 
(http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-12 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:47:15PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
 Hey,
 what the fuck ??? :p
what the fuck toi meme

 Please calm down :
 Youness we know you finished your job but that's not a reason to be so
 nervous !! Relax

it has nothing to do with the job or whatever, it just got on my nerves and I 
have the right to be nervous if I 
want to, right ?

 About this 0.97 thread : Vivia you renamed it but you did reply so your
 Mail client added a References field in your headers :
  37 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  39 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So everybody who display its mail using threads view will see it as a
 children of these previously referenced mails...

thanks

 Anyway, the memleak seems to be in Tcl/Tk8.5 as after some heavy tests,
 with Tcl/Tk8.4 the same code doesn't leak... I will investigate in
 Tcl8.5 versions to see if some of them are good...

ok! if it didn't happen before, it would be wise to do a binary search on svn 
revs to find where it came from, 
and reproduce in a simple tcl script, then submit to the tk team so they can 
look into it and fix it.

 Phil
 PS And please stop say fuck in every sentence :@ We are not in United
 States and we are well educated people :p
 

I'm not in the US and I'm well educated! :p

 Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
  On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  
  WHAT THE FUCK???
  
  what the fuck yourself 
  
  FIRST, this is the 0.98 TODO mail thread, so why the fuck would you spam 
  it with this memleak shit ? 
  
  Because I renamed it to 0.97 TODO, so it's not the same thread anymore.
  
  second, why would you reply to this thread, rename the subject into 0.97 
  TODO and talk about something other 
  than 0.98 TODO ?
  
  See above.
  
  third, which memleak are you talking about  I heard 
  NOTHING about ANY memleak, so now, you say 
  NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first while I haven't heard 
  of anything fucking memleak... try to 
  make sure you introduce the subject next time! maybe something like 'btw, 
  we found a memleak, let's try and fix 
  it before releasing'
  
  It had been discussed on the forum and on irc. Not my fault if you don't 
  know it.
   
  fourth, if it's a gnotify memleak then it has nothing to do with amsn, 
  since it's a plugin, so unofficial, so 
  unsupported, so it won't prevent us from releasing 0.97.
  
  When i wrote the first mail i had no idea, ubitux told me. Phil 
  investigated it and said it's not in gnotify itself.
  
  and finally, I like to have my threads clean, I have one fucking thread 
  about 0.97 TODO, and everything in it is 
  related to 0.97 TODO.. NO SPAM now, I have this 0.98 TODO thread with 
  already 5 mails in it without ANY 
  relation to the TODO, and this thread became 'dirty', so I'll have to 
  write a new mail so it becomes into a 
  separate thread in my mail program just so we can discuss the damn 0.98 
  TODO list.
  
  Not my fault if your mail program thinks it's the same thread even if the 
  subj is changed. If someone changes the subject , obviously they start 
  talking about sth else.
  
  NO SPAM PLEASE!
  
  I should start approving some spam so you should really know what NO SPAM 
  means...
  
  KaKaRoTo
 
  On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:40:37PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get 
  the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and 
  start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list :
  NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
  for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
  phil we couldn't figure out the leak
 
  - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
  - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code 
  and using events.
  - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip 
  in the custom status/autoaway message : 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get 
 the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and 
 start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list :

NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
phil we couldn't figure out the leak

 
 - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
 - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and 
 using events.
 - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the 
 custom status/autoaway message : 
 (http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-11 Thread Gustavo A. Dí­az




This happening to me too... when i leave the amsn open... is impossible
to use my laptop again at the next day... gets totally freeze.



Vivia Nikolaidou escribió:

  On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

  
  
The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get 
the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and 
start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list :

  
  
NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
phil we couldn't figure out the leak

  
  
- HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
- Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events.
- very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 11 May 2007, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:

 NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
 for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
 phil we couldn't figure out the leak

It seems to come from gnotify. billiob said it consumes 8kb of ram each 
time it checks... I disabled it and it seems to be going fine so far. Can 
other people confirm?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-11 Thread Bart Otten
If it is not in use by KDEit's a big possibility. I run SVN in
KDE and I don't have any leaks so far. Running smooth even
after 2 or 3 days (then I go to sleep and shutdown :P )

Grz,
Bart

Op Friday 11 May 2007 21:44:38 schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:
 On Fri, 11 May 2007, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open
  for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with
  phil we couldn't figure out the leak

 It seems to come from gnotify. billiob said it consumes 8kb of ram each
 time it checks... I disabled it and it seems to be going fine so far. Can
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-11 Thread Youness Alaoui
WHAT THE FUCK???
FIRST, this is the 0.98 TODO mail thread, so why the fuck would you spam it 
with this memleak shit ? 
second, why would you reply to this thread, rename the subject into 0.97 TODO 
and talk about something other 
than 0.98 TODO ?
third, which memleak are you talking about  I heard NOTHING 
about ANY memleak, so now, you say 
NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first while I haven't heard of 
anything fucking memleak... try to 
make sure you introduce the subject next time! maybe something like 'btw, we 
found a memleak, let's try and fix 
it before releasing' 
fourth, if it's a gnotify memleak then it has nothing to do with amsn, since 
it's a plugin, so unofficial, so 
unsupported, so it won't prevent us from releasing 0.97.
and finally, I like to have my threads clean, I have one fucking thread about 
0.97 TODO, and everything in it is 
related to 0.97 TODO.. NO SPAM now, I have this 0.98 TODO thread with 
already 5 mails in it without ANY 
relation to the TODO, and this thread became 'dirty', so I'll have to write a 
new mail so it becomes into a 
separate thread in my mail program just so we can discuss the damn 0.98 TODO 
list.

NO SPAM PLEASE!
KaKaRoTo

On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:40:37PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 On Fri, 11 May 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get 
  the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and 
  start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list :
 
 NO, please, please, fix the darned memleak first, i cannot keep amsn open 
 for a long time :( i'll try more debugging later, but the other day with 
 phil we couldn't figure out the leak
 
  
  - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
  - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and 
  using events.
  - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in 
  the custom status/autoaway message : 
  (http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)
  
  
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-08 Thread capricious . falcon

I don't think he needs to include the svgs with amsn, just provide a means
of obtaining them on request.

On 07/05/07, Gustavo A. Dí­az [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If you don't... then will be not a Open Source license... Right?.
If you will not share the source... then is useless

Lord Zak escribió:

Do I need to share the .svg ?

2007/5/7, Gustavo A. Dí­az [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Well, Lord... LGPL for example is used for icons too

 Lord Zak escribió:



 You could use GPL, LGPL,, etc... most of actually works for icons
  (example Oxygen) are considered to be libs too, so they use LGPL... or
  whatever similar.
  You could read them all so to choose the one that fits to your ideal.
 
  I will only include this great work on my skin if they are GPL or
  LPGL.
 
  Cheers.



 Yes of course I was looking for something like that. But they are
 pictures, so I'm looking for a specific license. I would like to use the
 Creative Commons Licenses, Attribution only :
 *Attribution* (by): Permit others to copy, distribute, display and
 perform the work and make derivative works based upon it only if they give
 the author or licensor the credits in the manner specified by these.
 (Wikipedia)
 Are you agree with that ?


  Thanks for the feedback!
  The smileys are really nice, they look like MSN's smileys and they
  have this great 'anime' look that I just love
  :D I totally vote to use your smileys :d
  One question though... are there any animated ones in the lot ? I saw
  all .png.. but afaik, png is not
  animated... do you plan on leaving all of them 'plain' ?
  thx
 
  KKRT
 

 lol I'm happy you think they're great ^^
 For the first release, the won't be animated, sorry. But, after that,
 I could work on it, but I need some time... So yes the will, but not now.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-08 Thread Gustavo A. Dí­az




I will include this smiles on my Skin on amsn-extras, so i think smiles
source could be inside default-src as well.

Youness Alaoui escribi:

  yes of course, I don't think anyone was asking for the src to be provided with amsn release, but we're asking 
for it to be accessible for us in svn, just like gus did, it's normal and I think it's  necessary if we are to 
expect using these pixmaps..

KKRT

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:52:45AM -0500, Lee Olson wrote:
  
  
I agree, simply adding them to a src directory on svn will make them
available for other skin designers, similar to what Gus did for his skin.
There's no need to include them with amsn, as the average user isn't going
to go and modify them to their preference.

~Lee

On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I don't think he needs to include the svgs with amsn, just provide a means
of obtaining them on request.

On 07/05/07, "Gustavo A. Daz"  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 If you don't... then will be not a Open Source license... Right?.
If you will not share the source... then is useless

Lord Zak escribi:

Do I need to share the .svg ?

2007/5/7, "Gustavo A. Daz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


  Well, Lord... LGPL for example is used for icons too

Lord Zak escribi:



You could use GPL, LGPL,, etc... most of actually works for icons
  
  
(example Oxygen) are considered to be libs too, so they use LGPL... 

  

  
  or
  
  

  
whatever similar.
You could read them all so to choose the one that fits to your
ideal.

I will only include this great work on my skin if they are GPL or
LPGL.

Cheers.

  
  

Yes of course I was looking for something like that. But they are
pictures, so I'm looking for a specific license. I would like to use 
  

  
  the
  
  

  Creative Commons Licenses, "Attribution only" :
"*Attribution* (by): Permit others to copy, distribute, display and
perform the work and make derivative works based upon it only if they 
  

  
  give
  
  

  the author or licensor the credits in the manner specified by these."
(Wikipedia)
Are you agree with that ?


 Thanks for the feedback!
  
  
The smileys are really nice, they look like MSN's smileys and they
have this great 'anime' look that I just love
:D I totally vote to use your smileys :d
One question though... are there any animated ones in the lot ? I
saw all .png.. but afaik, png is not
animated... do you plan on leaving all of them 'plain' ?
thx

KKRT


  
  lol I'm happy you think they're great ^^
For the "first release", the won't be animated, sorry. But, after
that, I could work on it, but I need some time... So yes the will, but 
  

  
  not
  
  

  now.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-07 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
On 5/7/07, Lord Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  You could use GPL, LGPL,, etc... most of actually works for icons (example
 Oxygen) are considered to be libs too, so they use LGPL... or whatever
 similar.
  You could read them all so to choose the one that fits to your ideal.
 
  I will only include this great work on my skin if they are GPL or LPGL.
 
  Cheers.


 Yes of course I was looking for something like that. But they are pictures,
 so I'm looking for a specific license. I would like to use the Creative
 Commons Licenses, Attribution only :
 Attribution (by): Permit others to copy, distribute, display and perform
 the work and make derivative works based upon it only if they give the
 author or licensor the credits in the manner specified by these.
 (Wikipedia)
 Are you agree with that ?

I would have prefered the WTFPL - Do What The Fuck You Want To Public
License (http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/)
I'm kidding :D
Anyway, your smileys look great!
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-07 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Hi,
I am not a lawyer but I think that Creative Commons License is
compatible with the GPL one...
Anyway, I think your choice is compatible...
Phil

Lord Zak a écrit :
 
 
 You could use GPL, LGPL,, etc... most of actually works for icons
 (example Oxygen) are considered to be libs too, so they use LGPL...
 or whatever similar.
 You could read them all so to choose the one that fits to your ideal.
 
 I will only include this great work on my skin if they are GPL or LPGL.
 
 Cheers.
 
 
 
 Yes of course I was looking for something like that. But they are
 pictures, so I'm looking for a specific license. I would like to use the
 Creative Commons Licenses, Attribution only :
 *Attribution* (by): Permit others to copy, distribute, display and
 perform the work and make derivative works based upon it only if they
 give the author or licensor the credits in the manner specified by
 these. (Wikipedia)
 Are you agree with that ?
 
 
 Thanks for the feedback!
 The smileys are really nice, they look like MSN's smileys and they
 have this great 'anime' look that I just love
 :D I totally vote to use your smileys :d
 One question though... are there any animated ones in the lot ? I
 saw all .png.. but afaik, png is not
 animated... do you plan on leaving all of them 'plain' ?
 thx
 
 KKRT
 
 
 lol I'm happy you think they're great ^^
 For the first release, the won't be animated, sorry. But, after that,
 I could work on it, but I need some time... So yes the will, but not now.
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-07 Thread Gustavo A. Dí­az




Well, Lord... LGPL for example is used for icons too

Lord Zak escribi:

  
  You could use GPL, LGPL,, etc... most of actually
works for icons
(example Oxygen) are considered to be libs too, so they use LGPL... or
whatever similar.
You could read them all so to choose the one that fits to your ideal.

I will only include this great work on my skin if they are GPL or LPGL.

Cheers.
  
  
Yes of course I was looking for something like that. But they are
pictures, so I'm looking for a specific license. I would like to use
the Creative Commons Licenses, "Attribution only" :
  
"Attribution (by): Permit others to copy, distribute, display
and
perform the work and make derivative works based upon it only if they
give the author or licensor the credits in the manner specified by
these." (Wikipedia)
Are you agree with that ?
  
  
  
  Thanks for the feedback!

The smileys are really nice, they look like MSN's smileys and they have
this great 'anime' look that I just love
:D I totally vote to use your smileys :d
One question though... are there any animated ones in the lot ? I saw
all .png.. but afaik, png is not

animated... do you plan on leaving all of them 'plain' ?
thx

KKRT
  
  
lol I'm happy you think they're great ^^
For the "first release", the won't be animated, sorry. But, after that,
I could work on it, but I need some time... So yes the will, but not
now.
  
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-07 Thread Lord Zak

Do I need to share the .svg ?

2007/5/7, Gustavo A. Dí­az [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Well, Lord... LGPL for example is used for icons too

Lord Zak escribió:



You could use GPL, LGPL,, etc... most of actually works for icons (example
 Oxygen) are considered to be libs too, so they use LGPL... or whatever
 similar.
 You could read them all so to choose the one that fits to your ideal.

 I will only include this great work on my skin if they are GPL or LPGL.

 Cheers.



Yes of course I was looking for something like that. But they are
pictures, so I'm looking for a specific license. I would like to use the
Creative Commons Licenses, Attribution only :
*Attribution* (by): Permit others to copy, distribute, display and
perform the work and make derivative works based upon it only if they give
the author or licensor the credits in the manner specified by these.
(Wikipedia)
Are you agree with that ?


 Thanks for the feedback!
 The smileys are really nice, they look like MSN's smileys and they have
 this great 'anime' look that I just love
 :D I totally vote to use your smileys :d
 One question though... are there any animated ones in the lot ? I saw
 all .png.. but afaik, png is not
 animated... do you plan on leaving all of them 'plain' ?
 thx

 KKRT


lol I'm happy you think they're great ^^
For the first release, the won't be animated, sorry. But, after that, I
could work on it, but I need some time... So yes the will, but not now.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-07 Thread Gustavo A. Dí­az




If you don't... then will be not a Open Source license... Right?.
If you will not share the source... then is useless

Lord Zak escribi:
Do I need to share the .svg ?
  
  2007/5/7, "Gustavo A. Daz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Well, Lord... LGPL for
example is used for icons too

Lord Zak escribi:

  
  
  You could use GPL, LGPL,, etc... most of actually
works for icons
(example Oxygen) are considered to be libs too, so they use LGPL... or
whatever similar.
You could read them all so to choose the one that fits to your ideal.

I will only include this great work on my skin if they are GPL or LPGL.

Cheers.
  
  
Yes of course I was looking for something like that. But they are
pictures, so I'm looking for a specific license. I would like to use
the Creative Commons Licenses, "Attribution only" : 
"Attribution (by): Permit others to copy, distribute, display
and
perform the work and make derivative works based upon it only if they
give the author or licensor the credits in the manner specified by
these." (Wikipedia)
Are you agree with that ?
  
  
  
  Thanks for the feedback! 
The smileys are really nice, they look like MSN's smileys and they have
this great 'anime' look that I just love
:D I totally vote to use your smileys :d
One question though... are there any animated ones in the lot ? I saw
all .png.. but afaik, png is not 
animated... do you plan on leaving all of them 'plain' ?
thx

KKRT
  
  
lol I'm happy you think they're great ^^
For the "first release", the won't be animated, sorry. But, after that,
I could work on it, but I need some time... So yes the will, but not
now. 
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-06 Thread Youness Alaoui
any news on this ?

On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 ok, so this means... ?
 how do the other applications do ? is it a palette thing like you said ? we 
 use our own palette and the windows 
 palette has a different index? then there should be a 'ico normalizer' to 
 make it work on all plateforms 
 somewhere, it would be impossible to not find a tool for this... 
 tell me when you got something so we can remove this...
 
 KKRT
 
 On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:12:24PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
  Ooops sorry not saw this mail before I replied...
  So that's not wierd ;)
  W2K tray doesn't take icon palette into account... We should find
  anything else... They use the Windows palette.
  Phil
  
  Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
   - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
   and fallback on old method.
   
   OK, I just tested on w2k... and it's WEIRD. The icons show OK on Windows 
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   tray they look awful. Seems that the tray can only display a few colors :(
   
   
   
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-06 Thread Lord Zak

News on smileys. I have done 50% of the smileys. It takes more time than I
thought... I'm sorry I'm late :p
Of course I'll try to finish it asap, but I would like to make it clean, so
please wait if you can. I hope it will be done at the end of this week.
You can have a look here :
http://www.ubitux.com/images/98BvrgMI4HF1KZ3wa.png

You can ask me for changing something because all the smileys you see are
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2007/5/6, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


any news on this ?

On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 ok, so this means... ?
 how do the other applications do ? is it a palette thing like you said ?
we use our own palette and the windows
 palette has a different index? then there should be a 'ico normalizer'
to make it work on all plateforms
 somewhere, it would be impossible to not find a tool for this...
 tell me when you got something so we can remove this...

 KKRT

 On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:12:24PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil
wrote:
  Ooops sorry not saw this mail before I replied...
  So that's not wierd ;)
  W2K tray doesn't take icon palette into account... We should find
  anything else... They use the Windows palette.
  Phil
 
  Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
   - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
   and fallback on old method.
  
   OK, I just tested on w2k... and it's WEIRD. The icons show OK on
Windows
   Explorer's preview, as well as when I open them with AX-Icons, but
on the
   tray they look awful. Seems that the tray can only display a few
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-06 Thread Youness Alaoui
Thanks for the feedback!
The smileys are really nice, they look like MSN's smileys and they have this 
great 'anime' look that I just love 
:D I totally vote to use your smileys :d
One question though... are there any animated ones in the lot ? I saw all 
.png.. but afaik, png is not 
animated... do you plan on leaving all of them 'plain' ?
thx

KKRT


On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 02:19:32AM +0200, Lord Zak wrote:
 News on smileys. I have done 50% of the smileys. It takes more time than I
 thought... I'm sorry I'm late :p
 Of course I'll try to finish it asap, but I would like to make it clean, so
 please wait if you can. I hope it will be done at the end of this week.
 You can have a look here :
 http://www.ubitux.com/images/98BvrgMI4HF1KZ3wa.png
 
 You can ask me for changing something because all the smileys you see are
 finale release, so the won't be changed.
 
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 2007/5/6, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 any news on this ?
 
 On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  ok, so this means... ?
  how do the other applications do ? is it a palette thing like you said ?
 we use our own palette and the windows
  palette has a different index? then there should be a 'ico normalizer'
 to make it work on all plateforms
  somewhere, it would be impossible to not find a tool for this...
  tell me when you got something so we can remove this...
 
  KKRT
 
  On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:12:24PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil
 wrote:
   Ooops sorry not saw this mail before I replied...
   So that's not wierd ;)
   W2K tray doesn't take icon palette into account... We should find
   anything else... They use the Windows palette.
   Phil
  
   Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
- Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
and fallback on old method.
   
OK, I just tested on w2k... and it's WEIRD. The icons show OK on
 Windows
Explorer's preview, as well as when I open them with AX-Icons, but
 on the
tray they look awful. Seems that the tray can only display a few
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-04 Thread Youness Alaoui
Hi,
I'll answer both of you at the same time...

Gus, why we want to have the same look as WLM ? simply because aMSN is a CLONE 
of WLM and what made amsn so 
popular today is one thing : same look and feel, that's our 'trademark' :p 
seriously, gaim, kopete, emesene, 
whatever, they all do the same thing, an IM client! but why choose amsn, it's 
because of its lookfeel, people 
coming from windows or who still are on windows, they don't want some 
application that changes everything, they 
don't want to get used to it all over again!!! 

I also liked Lord Zak's smileys, and that's when I say keep it as WLM, I 
don't say do a copy, on the contrary, 
lord zak's smileys are exactly the way I like it, simple, nice, funny, they 
have a little 'cartoon' touch, but 
they are the SAME as WLM's... I mean, on WLM, I always use ^o) I just like this 
smileys because it shows an 
expression I often do in real life... last time, I was trying amsn and I typed 
that smiley and it showed me some 
smiley that had NOTHING to do with the wlm's one!! it looks like a smile while 
having eyebrows in your face 
instead of looking up as if you're thinking about something, or talking 
ironically and teasing someone.. 
it's too different faces!!!
the one crying :'( it looks more like someone peed on himself:p and the one 
with the glasses (H), for me I 
always called it the narcisic smiley because I use it when I want to joke as 
in I'm so great, I love myself, 
who wants my autograph kind of emotion, the one in svn is more like it's hot, 
I'm on the beach enjoying the 
sun... 
the party one is not clear, the 'angel' smiley, in MSN he has an aureole (the 
circle above his head) in amsn he 
has wings, it's 2 different things!!!  The 'wilted rose' is also completely 
different from the original...

and why I ask for the same smileys ? simply because you won't get used to the 
new smiley set, a smiley is an 
emoticon, an emoticon means it should show an emotion.. if the emotion it shows 
on your PC is not the same 
emotion it shows on the other user's pc, it's useless! 

About saphire.. I don't like the name :p but if you want to change it, I think 
you have 2 choices :
1 - delete, then readd
2 - write a support request on the sourceforge tracker telling them that it's 
been months since the 'svn move' 
command fails and they should enable it from the server because it's driving 
everyone crazy!

About the TODO, I suggest you keep it somewhere like the 0.97 TODO has the todo 
for 0.97, you could create a 
thread skin TODO so you can keep track of everything and we can more easily 
report stuff to you, it will also 
give everyone a good appreciation of when the skin will be finished!

now Lord Zak! I love the icons! As I just said, it's nice, it reflects the same 
emotions as the ones from WLM 
(so far), I hope you read my mail and will take into account what I said for 
the future emoticons (although you 
did good so far), I like the cartoony effect they have, although it looks a bit 
weird, it's a nice look to have 
it like that! they all reflect the same thing as WLM, so I'm glad, continue 
like that, get the whole set done 
and I think we just got ourselves a great new smiley set that everyone will 
surely like! 

So in short, thanks, they look good, keep it up, they are more than enough 
'WLM-like' and yes, I'd be glad to 
have them as the new default skin's smiley set! :)

Good night!

KaKaRoTo

On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 07:22:44AM +0200, Lord Zak wrote:
 Thank you...
 You can have a look to what I did last 2 days :
 http://ubitux.free.fr/images/t8orv42912Y2Q7x3SrkQgyZ2wT2h0y8O.png
 I'm trying to make the main smileys asap.
 
 KaKaRoTo, are they enought  WLM like ? Are you ok to put them in the
 Sapphire theme ?
 
 
 2007/5/4, Gustavo A. Dí­az [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hi!!
 
 Why always we should look forward to have same look of WLMSN? I don't
 think (in my opinion) that those smiles from that app looks nice, even that
 IM look is not nicer at all...
 
 I like the style of Smile that Lord Zak did, it is nice to make some
 improvements of that base. Besides those has a very nice expression.
 
 If this will be not included in the default skin, i will in the original.
 
 By the way... Like many read in the forum, I've decided to change the name
 skin to Sapphire, so i tried to move Emerald2.0 to Sapphire2.0 (in
 amsn-extras)... but seems SF does not allow it.
 So.. i should delete the hole dir and upload it with the new name?
 
 Another thing, if someone have something to suggest about skin, do it now.
 I know that the final release is closer and i just have a few things to
 improve, then finish it as soon i can.
 
 
 Cheers.
 
 
 [GuS]
 
 Youness Alaoui escribió:
 
 I very much like the smileys you did... but I really don't know if we 
 should change yet once again our whole
 smiley set.. changing smileys is difficult for the users who have to get 
 used to the new smileys.. we changed
 then once from the M$ copyrighted 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Tom Hennigan
I think we should disable spaces support until the next release (be  
it the 0.97.1 if M$ get their brains in gear, or 0.98). As you say  
it's not a hugely wanted feature, and I think most users see it as a  
nicety (M$ Messenger has it, so aMSN has it too!) rather than a  
necessity.

- Tom

On 2 May 2007, at 18:14, NoWhereMan wrote:

 Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Here's the complete TODO for 0.97.. we want to get 0.97 out as soon
 as possible, I would have had enough time to do it lately but I'm
 very busy these last days, so... let's try to cut this thing down..
 we have 4 items,
 - support msn spaces
  yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working anymore


 spaces support in WLM is totally teh suxxorz. It sucks so hard I  
 don't
 really mind about it even with the official client, where I don't  
 get the
 binking gleam anymore, too because I should subscribe for each  
 contact. As
 I didn't like it from the beginning, but I just liked the (not very  
 useful,
 but nice to see) contact card thing. Now I don't really mind. I  
 don't like
 as it is implemented now. I used to click to see my contact's  
 avatar bigger
 in size, but now even in ccard  is small, so who cares?

 My two cents

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Yoda-BZH - Tristan Charbonneau
Hello
IMO, this feature should be left disabled, and you will enable it in a
release like 0.97.xx or something like that, otherwise you'll get a
lot of people complaining that it doesn't works.
Maybe you'll have to patch/correct the code to get spaces go to work
out-of-the-box, but I pray that you won't have to do so.
When this new release will be ready, the notification will tell (?)
the user that a new release is aviable.

And yes, too few people read the README :s

My two « centimes d'euro »

On 5/3/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We can leave it as it is because the feature is SO immature right now, if 
 M$ fixes their server, all our users
 will get bugs with spaces.. so it's either finish it, or remove it.. and 
 finishing it, we cant' really do that
 until we can test...
 and putting a note in readme/installer.. lol, who reads that? :p

 I also think the feature is too early in development to be included in 0.97 
 and I would really like to remove
 it.. as Tom said, it's a nicety, not a necessity.

 KaKaRoTo


 On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 06:41:15PM +1200, majinsoftware wrote:
  I say leave it as it is so when MS fixs there server it should work fine
  with out any thing being downloaded or patched, But a option to disable it
  should be in the settings and it should be disabled by default intill the
  server has been fixed.
 
  Just put a note in the readme or the installer that says that spaces are not
  working because MS server has a problem.
 
  On 5/3/07, Tom Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I think we should disable spaces support until the next release (be
  it the 0.97.1 if M$ get their brains in gear, or 0.98). As you say
  it's not a hugely wanted feature, and I think most users see it as a
  nicety (M$ Messenger has it, so aMSN has it too!) rather than a
  necessity.
  
  - Tom
  
  On 2 May 2007, at 18:14, NoWhereMan wrote:
  
   Youness Alaoui wrote:
   Here's the complete TODO for 0.97.. we want to get 0.97 out as soon
   as possible, I would have had enough time to do it lately but I'm
   very busy these last days, so... let's try to cut this thing down..
   we have 4 items,
   - support msn spaces
yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working anymore
  
  
   spaces support in WLM is totally teh suxxorz. It sucks so hard I
   don't
   really mind about it even with the official client, where I don't
   get the
   binking gleam anymore, too because I should subscribe for each
   contact. As
   I didn't like it from the beginning, but I just liked the (not very
   useful,
   but nice to see) contact card thing. Now I don't really mind. I
   don't like
   as it is implemented now. I used to click to see my contact's
   avatar bigger
   in size, but now even in ccard  is small, so who cares?
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
I very much like the smileys you did... but I really don't know if we should 
change yet once again our whole 
smiley set.. changing smileys is difficult for the users who have to get used 
to the new smileys.. we changed 
then once from the M$ copyrighted images, now we change them again.. what would 
users think ? If you could maybe 
make them look AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE the same as the M$ ones.. no 'fancy' or 
'better' or whatever.. just making 
them look like the M$ ones (which are nice), so people won't get confused and 
have to readapt themselves to a 
new smiley set...
apart from that, good job! 

POLL :
1 - keep the old smiley set

2 - a new smiley set however it looks

3 - a new smiley set looking as much as possible as the M$ smileys

4 - confused???
KaKaRoTo


KKRT


On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:28:37PM -0300, Gustavo A. Dí­az wrote:
 Good then! i like those Smiles expresion ;)
 
 Lord Zak escribió:
 Right... I'm trying to do them all to night for the main ones (smileys 
 with a face), and I'll send the .svg.
 They will look like something like that (see file) ; I'll change the 
 color, and make .svg more clean ; like that, it will me easier for you 
 to edit them as you want... They're very simple, I hope it will be ok
 
 
 2007/5/2, Gustavo A. Dí­az [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Very Good! Now if you want, make the hole set, and i could help
 you to improve it.
 
 Lord Zak escribió:
 For the skin I'm trying to do the smileys... Is something like
 that okay ?
 
 2007/5/2, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Here's the complete TODO for 0.97.. we want to get 0.97 out
 as soon as possible, I would have had enough time to
 do it lately but I'm very busy these last days, so... let's
 try to cut this thing down..
 we have 4 items,
 - support msn spaces
   yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working
 anymore really.. the msn server for spaces is not
 working anymore for protocols earlier than msnp13.. so even
 msn 7.5 is broken now, we can't get the spaces info,
 so we can't display anything.. so what should we do ? wait
 until M$ fixes it so we can start implementing it? or
 shoul we just drop the feature for 0.97 (who know when
 they'll fix it for 'earlier versions'). Anyways, look at
 the poll results from the main site, spaces are the least
 wanted feature.. I vote for dropping it for now, and
 either get a 0.97.1 with spaces support, or 0.98 with
 spaces... (if M$ fixes their server)
 
 - finish the skin
   the skin looks good now! what remains ? we need to know
 exactly what we still need to fix in the skin so we
 can release ASAP... I know the sounds must be changed, I
 think the smiley set should be restored to the
 stylistic ones (if not already done) and I think the colors
 in the CL for away/online/busy/etc.. should be made
 to be as they were before with stylistic... apart from that,
 I don't know what else remains.. (maybe make the
 group's frame a lighter blue ?)
 
 - update FAQ..
   yeah.. can be done between RC1 and final
 
 - fix bug with the icons
   shouldn't this be fixed already ? I see the code for it, I
 just don't know if it's working.. can anyone
 confirm ? if it's done, then this should be removed...
 
 
 In short, we want the detailed TODO for the skin and we want
 a vote on dropping the spaces support or delaying
 the release again...
 
 KaKaRoTo
 
 New Complete 0.97 TODO:
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/
 kakaroto) (finish the UI)
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and
 update everything with new screenshots)
 - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

POLL :
1 - keep the old smiley set

2 - a new smiley set however it looks

3 - a new smiley set looking as much as possible as the M$ smileys

4 - confused???
KaKaRoTo
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
Complete 0.97 TODO:
- Add new smileys for the *help, *9mil, etc.. all those new IM things
(list is *sierra *bgca *9mil *hsus *komen *one *mssoc *care *acs
*oxfam *mod *help *red+u *unicef *wwf *naf )
- Hide quoted text -
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and
update everything with new screenshots)
- Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
and fallback on old method.


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
Complete 0.97 TODO:
- Add new smileys for the *help, *9mil, etc.. all those new IM things
(list is *sierra *bgca *9mil *hsus *komen *one *mssoc *care *acs
*oxfam *mod *help *red+u *unicef *wwf *naf )
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and
update everything with new screenshots)
- Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
and fallback on old method.


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

 - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
 and fallback on old method.

OK, I just tested on w2k... and it's WEIRD. The icons show OK on Windows 
Explorer's preview, as well as when I open them with AX-Icons, but on the 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok, so this means... ?
how do the other applications do ? is it a palette thing like you said ? we use 
our own palette and the windows 
palette has a different index? then there should be a 'ico normalizer' to make 
it work on all plateforms 
somewhere, it would be impossible to not find a tool for this... 
tell me when you got something so we can remove this...

KKRT

On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:12:24PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
 Ooops sorry not saw this mail before I replied...
 So that's not wierd ;)
 W2K tray doesn't take icon palette into account... We should find
 anything else... They use the Windows palette.
 Phil
 
 Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
  - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
  and fallback on old method.
  
  OK, I just tested on w2k... and it's WEIRD. The icons show OK on Windows 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
We got no reports apart from David Girault.. so just make sure you contact him 
and see what he says about the 
issue, it would be better to be safe than sorry...

if we remove --enable-pwc then we should remove it from the makefile/configure 
too... 
btw, the FAQ really needs to be updated, I've browsed through it and there are 
a LOT of outdated stuff in 
there...

KKRT

On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:10:05PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
  - Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and
  update everything with new screenshots)
  
  We don't need --enable-pwc anymore IIRC? We just need to make sure UVC 
  webcams work at the moment... see the email from David Girault where he 
  said they don't?... Anyway, mine still works :D
 As he didn't say anything more I think he managed to make it work...
 No news good news ;)
  
  - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
  and fallback on old method.
  
  I had done this part and all that remained was to make the icons with 256 
  colors, right? Then Phil made them all 16x16 ... Phil, do these icons work 
  OK on w2k? If so, please remove this TODO item...
 I fixed that : should work OK on W2K (I can't test) but 8bits...
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-02 Thread Youness Alaoui
Here's the complete TODO for 0.97.. we want to get 0.97 out as soon as 
possible, I would have had enough time to 
do it lately but I'm very busy these last days, so... let's try to cut this 
thing down.. 
we have 4 items, 
- support msn spaces 
  yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working anymore really.. 
the msn server for spaces is not 
working anymore for protocols earlier than msnp13.. so even msn 7.5 is broken 
now, we can't get the spaces info, 
so we can't display anything.. so what should we do ? wait until M$ fixes it so 
we can start implementing it? or 
shoul we just drop the feature for 0.97 (who know when they'll fix it for 
'earlier versions'). Anyways, look at 
the poll results from the main site, spaces are the least wanted feature.. I 
vote for dropping it for now, and 
either get a 0.97.1 with spaces support, or 0.98 with spaces... (if M$ fixes 
their server)

- finish the skin
  the skin looks good now! what remains ? we need to know exactly what we still 
need to fix in the skin so we 
can release ASAP... I know the sounds must be changed, I think the smiley set 
should be restored to the 
stylistic ones (if not already done) and I think the colors in the CL for 
away/online/busy/etc.. should be made 
to be as they were before with stylistic... apart from that, I don't know what 
else remains.. (maybe make the 
group's frame a lighter blue ?)

- update FAQ.. 
  yeah.. can be done between RC1 and final

- fix bug with the icons
  shouldn't this be fixed already ? I see the code for it, I just don't know if 
it's working.. can anyone 
confirm ? if it's done, then this should be removed...


In short, we want the detailed TODO for the skin and we want a vote on dropping 
the spaces support or delaying 
the release again...

KaKaRoTo

New Complete 0.97 TODO:
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/
kakaroto) (finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and
update everything with new screenshots)
- Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-02 Thread NoWhereMan
Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Here's the complete TODO for 0.97.. we want to get 0.97 out as soon
 as possible, I would have had enough time to do it lately but I'm
 very busy these last days, so... let's try to cut this thing down..
 we have 4 items,
 - support msn spaces
  yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working anymore


spaces support in WLM is totally teh suxxorz. It sucks so hard I don't 
really mind about it even with the official client, where I don't get the 
binking gleam anymore, too because I should subscribe for each contact. As 
I didn't like it from the beginning, but I just liked the (not very useful, 
but nice to see) contact card thing. Now I don't really mind. I don't like 
as it is implemented now. I used to click to see my contact's avatar bigger 
in size, but now even in ccard  is small, so who cares?

My two cents

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-05-02 Thread Gustavo A. Dí­az




Very Good! Now if you want, make the hole set, and i could help you to
improve it.

Lord Zak escribi:
For the skin I'm trying to do the smileys... Is something
like that okay ?
  
  2007/5/2, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  :
  Here's
the complete TODO for 0.97.. we want to get 0.97 out as soon as
possible, I would have had enough time to

do it lately but I'm very busy these last days, so... let's try to cut
this thing down..
we have 4 items,
- support msn spaces
yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working anymore
really.. the msn server for spaces is not

working anymore for protocols earlier than msnp13.. so even msn 7.5 is
broken now, we can't get the spaces info,
so we can't display anything.. so what should we do ? wait until M$
fixes it so we can start implementing it? or

shoul we just drop the feature for 0.97 (who know when they'll fix it
for 'earlier versions'). Anyways, look at
the poll results from the main site, spaces are the least wanted
feature.. I vote for dropping it for now, and

either get a 0.97.1 with spaces support, or 0.98 with spaces... (if M$
fixes their server)

- finish the skin
the skin looks good now! what remains ? we need to know exactly what
we still need to fix in the skin so we

can release ASAP... I know the sounds must be changed, I think the
smiley set should be restored to the
stylistic ones (if not already done) and I think the colors in the CL
for away/online/busy/etc.. should be made

to be as they were before with stylistic... apart from that, I don't
know what else remains.. (maybe make the
group's frame a lighter blue ?)

- update FAQ..
yeah.. can be done between RC1 and final


- fix bug with the icons
shouldn't this be fixed already ? I see the code for it, I just don't
know if it's working.. can anyone
confirm ? if it's done, then this should be removed...


In short, we want the detailed TODO for the skin and we want a vote on
dropping the spaces support or delaying
the release again...

KaKaRoTo

New Complete 0.97 TODO:
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/

kakaroto) (finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and
update everything with new screenshots)
- Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be 'catch'-ed

and fallback on old method.



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-04-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Boris Faure (aka billiob) wrote:

  - Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and
  update everything with new screenshots)
 
 About --enable-pwc, is it still need with the patch from Luc Saillard ?
 
It was reverted because it broke compatibility with uvc drivers...

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-04-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
- Add a new skin icon for WinWriting incoming voice clips instead of
WinWriting the button

Changed :
- Finish support for MSN spaces
(task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
into :
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (finish the UI)


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-04-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
all we need to do is fix the last little tweaks with the skin and finish the 
MSN Spaces support.. it's simple.. 
and I just got it to work locally on fetching a picture (thumbnail + full size) 
from a photo album :) )

KaKaRoTo

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:56:37PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Removed :
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
 - Add a new skin icon for WinWriting incoming voice clips instead of
 WinWriting the button
 
 Changed :
 - Finish support for MSN spaces
 (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
 into :
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (finish the UI)
 
 
 New Complete 0.97 TODO :
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (finish the UI)
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-04-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
new code in the spaces part just committed... we need to build a GUI now... 
and about the inline/ccard thing, I just had a great (I hope) idea... better 
than an advanced pref.. we could 
have a 'dock/undock' icon in the ccard, so when you open the ccard the first 
time, it shows the ccard and you 
see the dock button, you click on it, the ccard disappears and the spaces info 
appear inline in the CL... there 
you can again see the 'undock' button, click on it, all inline infos get 
collapsed and a ccard appears...
I hope everyone likes the idea...
we now have one function that we need to fill in order to build the GUI 
(drawing on a canvas), it's a single 
function that draws the same thing whether it's on a ccard or in the CL, so no 
double work to be done here... 
and we're almost done and we'll get 0.97 out and finally rest!!!
I HOPE YOU'LL HELP ME ON THIS :@ :p
come on guys! motivation :D 

c ya
KaKaRoTo

On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:11:48PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 all we need to do is fix the last little tweaks with the skin and finish the 
 MSN Spaces support.. it's simple.. 
 and I just got it to work locally on fetching a picture (thumbnail + full 
 size) from a photo album :) )
 
 KaKaRoTo
 
 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:56:37PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  Removed :
  - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
   (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting 
  )
  - Add a new skin icon for WinWriting incoming voice clips instead of
  WinWriting the button
  
  Changed :
  - Finish support for MSN spaces
  (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
   (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
  into :
  - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
   (finish the UI)
  
  
  New Complete 0.97 TODO :
  - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
   (finish the UI)
  - Finish the new Skin
  - Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!
  
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-04-02 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Added:
- Add a new skin icon for WinWriting incoming voice clips instead of 
WinWriting the button

New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
- Finish support for MSN spaces
(task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!
- Add a new skin icon for WinWriting incoming voice clips instead of
WinWriting the button


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (fix issues with 'forget me')


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
- Finish support for MSN spaces
(task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 07:23:19AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 30/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Added :
 - Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!
 
 p.s: TomJ, login screen done ?
 
 
 I think so, I'm not fixing the double checkbutton issue as its so much work
 for such a trivial issue which si gonna get fixed by tile at some point
 anyway... sorry!
 

yeah no problem about that, I think I answered you about it in the forums... 
but the forget me window ? I know I sent you a mail with a list of stuffs to 
improve, I can't remember if you 
fixed it all or just not yet.. like the button to label and the ok button with 
padding, + no -expand true, 
etc... 
and btw, I sent that list to you and to the ML, and you answered privately.. if 
you re-answer for an update, 
please CC the list, thanks! :)

KKRT

 New Complete 0.97 TODO :
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
 (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting
 )
 - Finish support for MSN spaces
 (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (fix issues with 'forget me')
 - Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
info...
OIM support works good with HTTP proxy! :D
now we need to make sure it works with SOCKS proxies too, then we can say that 
it's done.. (it will also confirm 
that it works for spaces, although there might be changes necessary for SOCKS 
relating to http requests (only 
https requests are handled) since spaces uses http instead of https..

KKRT

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:06:59AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Added :
 - Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!
 
 p.s: TomJ, login screen done ? 
 
 New Complete 0.97 TODO :
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
 - Finish support for MSN spaces
 (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
  (fix issues with 'forget me')
 - Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-29 Thread Youness Alaoui
Added :
- Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!

p.s: TomJ, login screen done ? 

New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
- Finish support for MSN spaces
(task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (fix issues with 'forget me')
- Update FAQ... Document the --enable-pwc configure option!


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-26 Thread Youness Alaoui
Modified 
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies)
into :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
comment :
see http://amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2876

New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting )
- Finish support for MSN spaces 
(task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (fix issues with 'forget me')


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-26 Thread capricious . falcon

On 26/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Modified
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make sure it works behind proxies)
into :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting
)
comment :
see http://amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2876

New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make sure it works behind proxies, make it work for non-tabbed-CW setting
)
- Finish support for MSN spaces
(task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
(make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
(fix issues with 'forget me')



Okay, please test the 'forget me' feature, I've made the dialog link work
and stuff, please tell me if anything seems wrong or you find any bugs.
Also, the dialog needs translating. Am I allowed to add the english
translation myself? I propose something like this:

howto_delete_profile:
Follow the link below to delete your profile.
(You cannot delete your profile from here for security reasons)
goto_prefs_removeprofile:
Open preferences window to delete your profile.

NB: I put the security reason thing last for howto_delete_profile so people
don't see You can't... first and just click OK.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-25 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed :
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (fix issues with 'forget me')


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-13 Thread capricious . falcon

On 13/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Modified :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)
into
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make sure it works behind proxies)

Modified
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
(make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the
UI)
into
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
(make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)



New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make sure it works behind proxies)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
(Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in
the prefs)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
(make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
(Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the
window's size, and fix issues with
'forget me')



Okay, so just what exactly am I doing with forget me? Is it popping up a
message saying Sorry, for security reasons you can't deleta a profile from
here blah blah go to prefs or  is ti saying Are you sure you wanna delete
this profile? ALL YOUR CHAT LOGS, SAVED DISPLAY PICS ETC WILL BE DELETED.
OR, I just thought of another option, maybe this:

Are you sure blah de blah
[x] Remove my profile but keep my chat logs and saved DPs etc
[ ] Remove my profile and all my chat logs and saved DPs etc

[Ok] [Cancel]

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
currently, we don't have the code that takes care of removing a profile but 
keep the settings.. a 'forget me' 
means 'forget me', so it shouldn't remember some stuff...
I think the most secure way is to just show a popup telling you where to go to 
delete profiles.. + it makes it a 
lot easier for you, so no more tricks for making it delete an account you 
already use, etc... 
+ noone ever complained about it there being too difficult to reach, so it's a 
safe bet I think.

p.s.: afaik, deleting a profile does a 'file delete -force $HOME' 

KaKaRoTo

 
 Okay, so just what exactly am I doing with forget me? Is it popping up a
 message saying Sorry, for security reasons you can't deleta a profile from
 here blah blah go to prefs or  is ti saying Are you sure you wanna delete
 this profile? ALL YOUR CHAT LOGS, SAVED DISPLAY PICS ETC WILL BE DELETED.
 OR, I just thought of another option, maybe this:
 
 Are you sure blah de blah
 [x] Remove my profile but keep my chat logs and saved DPs etc
 [ ] Remove my profile and all my chat logs and saved DPs etc
 
 [Ok] [Cancel]
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO :: network settings ?

2007-03-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
You have a very good point! 
we already have a 'connection' tab, with the port number there AND the test 
button.. the only thing that remains 
is ? the sentence 'you are firewalled' or 'your ports are well configured'.. 
so all we need to do is add that label in that frame and we're done, no ? 
also, it would be wise to finally change the 'port for file transfers' into 
something more like 'starting port 
for direct connections (needed for file transfers and webcam)' or 
something..I'm not a tech doc guy, so whoever 
things he has a better sentence!

KKRT

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 07:44:12AM +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
 I'm gonna answer here to be quick;
 Why is there a network step in the Webcam assistant ?  From a user's
 point of view it doesn't belong there at all.  Network settings are for aMSN
 as a whole.  If you want the assistant to be more like a set up aMSN for
 usage assistant instead of for webcam/audio only, then it has to be called
 otherwise and not as Edit AV settings... from a menu.
 
 I'd vote for a network tab in preferences instead where all network-stuff
 would be placed.  We already have some of those network settings in the
 preferences window.  Maybe on the last page of teh webcam assistant there
 could be a phrase like If you have problems with connecting, check your
 amsn _network_ settings.  Also, can we get some info about network settings
 (proxies for example) from out desktop environment (windows registry,
 gnome's gconf, kde, mac ?)
 
 Karel.
 
 
 
 
 2007/3/12, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Added :
 - Fix SOCKS support on authentification
 Removed
 - Fix SOCKS support on authentification  (thanks Phil!! :D)
 
 Modified :
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
 (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies)
 into
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
 (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)
 
 Modified :
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 into
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in
 the prefs)
 
 Modified :
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies)
 into
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the
 UI)
 
 Modified :
 - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 into
 - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the
 window's size, and fix issues with
 'forget me')
 
 
 New Complete 0.97 TODO :
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
 (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in
 the prefs)
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the
 UI)
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
 - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the
 window's size, and fix issues with
 'forget me')
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO :: network settings ?

2007-03-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
autoproxy is very nice, but it doesn't work for https and does not include 
socks proxy, only http proxies..
all it does is to make sure that the username and password and 
Proxy-Authorization header is always added to the 
http requests... 
it 'does' use the registry for proxy config, only for windows though and not 
sure how good it is, all it does is 
get HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Internet Settings/ProxyEnable
and HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Internet Settings/ProxyServer
and HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Internet 
Settings/ProxyOverride

the proxyOverride is supposed to be a list of hosts which should not pass 
through the proxy (like 127.0.0.1 for 
example) and there is no mention of the proxy's password.. 

oh.. I just saw that for non/win, it looks at the environment variable 
'http_proxy' and 'no_proxy' (equivalent 
of proxyoverride) 
that's it..


KKRT

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 07:47:18AM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 07:44 +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
  I'm gonna answer here to be quick;  
  Why is there a network step in the Webcam assistant ?  From a
  user's point of view it doesn't belong there at all.  Network settings
  are for aMSN as a whole.  If you want the assistant to be more like a
  set up aMSN for usage assistant instead of for webcam/audio only,
  then it has to be called otherwise and not as Edit AV settings...
  from a menu. 
  
  I'd vote for a network tab in preferences instead where all
  network-stuff would be placed.  We already have some of those network
  settings in the preferences window.  Maybe on the last page of teh
  webcam assistant there could be a phrase like If you have problems
  with connecting, check your amsn _network_ settings.  Also, can we
  get some info about network settings (proxies for example) from out
  desktop environment (windows registry, gnome's gconf, kde, mac ?) 
  
  Karel.
  
 Yes, with autoproxy: http://wiki.tcl.tk/2879 (i think, have to go to
 work now)
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-13 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
Modified :
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam'
button in the prefs)
into
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
  Done, but i need some feedbacks :D
  If you're using  linux and has a webcam, can you tell me if changing
the state of the checkbox for low resolutions cams does resizing the
preview image or not, cause i couldn't test it.

About OIMs and proxies, it should be fix now, shouldn't it ?

New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
  Done, but i need some feedbacks :D
  If you're using  linux and has a webcam, can you tell me if changing
the state of the checkbox for low resolutions cams does resizing the
preview image or not, cause i couldn't test it.
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending
on the window's size, and fix issues with
'forget me')

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
Hey, good job, very well done billiob!!!
I removed the item from the TODO (instead of your modify) because the 'job is 
done', now if anything comes up, 
it becomes 'bugfixing' instead of a feature/TODO item.
Also, let's keep this thread clean, so feedback on this should be on a separate 
thread! so if you want, you can 
write on the older thread you had on the subject (there was one, right?) or 
create a new one(use old thread if 
exists).
About OIMs and proxies.. yes and no.. so yes 'it should be fixed now' BUT 'no' 
because I never even tested it! I 
have no proxy to test with, so I just copy pasted code and I hope it works, 
that's it..
also, the code I did should work with proxies on HTTPS SOAP requests, but HTTP 
(msn spaces use http only) SOAP 
requests would still not be using the proxies.. 
and finally, I did (actually, I pasted) support for SOCKS and HTTP-POST proxies 
but I didn't implement it for 
the MSN HTTP Gateway proxy... this I know nothing about it.. 
Once it's done and tested and said to be 'in working order', we can remove the 
OIM from the TODO.. and we'll be 
really close to a release! :D

By the way, did you notice any difference with the new implementation (now that 
tclsoap is removed) ? is it 
faster ? much faster ? farely fast enough ? not much ?
I think it's much faster, but it's still slow enough for us to notice... what 
do you think ?
anyways, keep it up, 0.97 is soon! :)

KaKaRoTo


On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:48:11PM +0100, Boris Faure (aka billiob) wrote:
 Modified :
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
  (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam'
 button in the prefs)
 into
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
   Done, but i need some feedbacks :D
   If you're using  linux and has a webcam, can you tell me if changing
 the state of the checkbox for low resolutions cams does resizing the
 preview image or not, cause i couldn't test it.
 
 About OIMs and proxies, it should be fix now, shouldn't it ?
 
 New Complete 0.97 TODO :
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make sure it works behind proxies)
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
   Done, but i need some feedbacks :D
   If you're using  linux and has a webcam, can you tell me if changing
 the state of the checkbox for low resolutions cams does resizing the
 preview image or not, cause i couldn't test it.
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
 - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
  (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending
 on the window's size, and fix issues with
 'forget me')
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-12 Thread Youness Alaoui
Added :
- Fix SOCKS support on authentification 
Removed
- Fix SOCKS support on authentification  (thanks Phil!! :D)

Modified :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies)
into 
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)

Modified :
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
into 
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the 
prefs)

Modified :
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies)
into
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI)

Modified :
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
into 
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the 
window's size, and fix issues with 
'forget me')


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the 
prefs)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the 
window's size, and fix issues with
'forget me')


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-12 Thread Youness Alaoui
Modified :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)
into 
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies)

Modified
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI)
into
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)



New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make sure it works behind proxies)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the 
prefs)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
 (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the 
window's size, and fix issues with
'forget me')



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO :: network settings ?

2007-03-12 Thread Karel Demeyer

I'm gonna answer here to be quick;
Why is there a network step in the Webcam assistant ?  From a user's
point of view it doesn't belong there at all.  Network settings are for aMSN
as a whole.  If you want the assistant to be more like a set up aMSN for
usage assistant instead of for webcam/audio only, then it has to be called
otherwise and not as Edit AV settings... from a menu.

I'd vote for a network tab in preferences instead where all network-stuff
would be placed.  We already have some of those network settings in the
preferences window.  Maybe on the last page of teh webcam assistant there
could be a phrase like If you have problems with connecting, check your
amsn _network_ settings.  Also, can we get some info about network settings
(proxies for example) from out desktop environment (windows registry,
gnome's gconf, kde, mac ?)

Karel.




2007/3/12, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Added :
- Fix SOCKS support on authentification
Removed
- Fix SOCKS support on authentification  (thanks Phil!! :D)

Modified :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make it work behind proxies)
into
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)

Modified :
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
into
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
(Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in
the prefs)

Modified :
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
(make it work behind proxies)
into
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
(make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the
UI)

Modified :
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
into
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
(Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the
window's size, and fix issues with
'forget me')


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
(billiob/lephilousophe)
(make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
(Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in
the prefs)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
(make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the
UI)
- Finish the new Skin
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)
(Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the
window's size, and fix issues with
'forget me')


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO :: network settings ?

2007-03-12 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 07:44 +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
 I'm gonna answer here to be quick;  
 Why is there a network step in the Webcam assistant ?  From a
 user's point of view it doesn't belong there at all.  Network settings
 are for aMSN as a whole.  If you want the assistant to be more like a
 set up aMSN for usage assistant instead of for webcam/audio only,
 then it has to be called otherwise and not as Edit AV settings...
 from a menu. 
 
 I'd vote for a network tab in preferences instead where all
 network-stuff would be placed.  We already have some of those network
 settings in the preferences window.  Maybe on the last page of teh
 webcam assistant there could be a phrase like If you have problems
 with connecting, check your amsn _network_ settings.  Also, can we
 get some info about network settings (proxies for example) from out
 desktop environment (windows registry, gnome's gconf, kde, mac ?) 
 
 Karel.
 
Yes, with autoproxy: http://wiki.tcl.tk/2879 (i think, have to go to
work now)



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-03-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed :
- Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
- Make the drag/drop contacts in the new CL with the left clik drag (of more 
than X (5 or 10?) pixels) instead
of the middle click
- Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
- Add skin option for colorizing the CurrentMedia in PSM.
(dropped)


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the new Skin
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-23 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
Removed:
- Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
Tested with Phil, and on a server at Hong Kong.


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
 (make it work behind proxies)
- Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
 (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)
- Finish the new Skin
- Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Add skin option for colorizing the CurrentMedia in PSM.


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-20 Thread Sander Hoentjen
Tom,

can you try to get a normal working button by disabling all options from
the button command until you at least have a button that has an image,
then re-adding the options to see which ones gives you a problem?

Sander

On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 20:03 +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
 Lol :-P I just changed the label to button in the statements below  
 that comment. Here's the diff:
 
 Index: chatwindow.tcl
 ===
 --- chatwindow.tcl  (revision 7978)
 +++ chatwindow.tcl  (working copy)
 @@ -2149,41 +2149,41 @@
  #Buttons are now labels, to get nicer interface on  
 Mac OS X
  #Smiley button
 -   label $smileys  -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsmile] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $smileys  -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsmile]  
 -relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0 \
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
 buttonbarbg]  -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $smileys [trans insertsmiley]
  #Font button
 -   label $fontsel -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $fontsel -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $fontsel [trans changefont]
 -   label $voice -image [::skin::loadPixmap butvoice] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $voice -image [::skin::loadPixmap butvoice] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $voice [trans sendvoice]
  #Block button
 -   label $block -image [::skin::loadPixmap butblock] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $block -image [::skin::loadPixmap butblock] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $block -- 
 command--::ChatWindow::SetBlockText $w
  #Send file button
 -   label $sendfile -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsend] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $sendfile -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsend] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $sendfile [trans sendfile]
  #Invite another contact button
 -   label $invite -image [::skin::loadPixmap butinvite] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $invite -image [::skin::loadPixmap butinvite] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $invite [trans invite]
  #Webcam button
 -   label $webcam -image [::skin::loadPixmap butwebcam] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $webcam -image [::skin::loadPixmap butwebcam] - 
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
 highlightthickness 0\
   -borderwidth 0 -highlightbackground  
 [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]\
   -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
 
 
 On 19 Feb 2007, at 19:25, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  Obviously it's not working, lol :p maybe you did something wrong...  
  can we see the diff ?
  thx
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 05:40:03PM +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
  Weird because with button I get this (the winks plugin uses label):
 
  On 19 Feb 2007, at 17:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  IIRC, it was to get rid of extra padding that buttons had which
  couldn't be removed...
 
  On 19/02/07, Tom Hennigan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'll check it out now.
 
  On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:57, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 05:35 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if
  we test it with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can
  always 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-20 Thread Tom Hennigan
It seems to not like being given an image as a button :-S with  
everything removed the button is the same. With -relief flat it's  
the same too.

On 20 Feb 2007, at 19:32, Sander Hoentjen wrote:

 Tom,

 can you try to get a normal working button by disabling all options  
 from
 the button command until you at least have a button that has an image,
 then re-adding the options to see which ones gives you a problem?

 Sander

 On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 20:03 +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
 Lol :-P I just changed the label to button in the statements below
 that comment. Here's the diff:

 Index: chatwindow.tcl
 ===
 --- chatwindow.tcl  (revision 7978)
 +++ chatwindow.tcl  (working copy)
 @@ -2149,41 +2149,41 @@
  #Buttons are now labels, to get nicer interface on
 Mac OS X
  #Smiley button
 -   label $smileys  -image [::skin::loadPixmap  
 butsmile] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $smileys  -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsmile]
 -relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] -
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0 \
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey
 buttonbarbg]  -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $smileys [trans insertsmiley]
  #Font button
 -   label $fontsel -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $fontsel -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] -
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $fontsel [trans changefont]
 -   label $voice -image [::skin::loadPixmap butvoice] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $voice -image [::skin::loadPixmap butvoice] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] -
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $voice [trans sendvoice]
  #Block button
 -   label $block -image [::skin::loadPixmap butblock] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $block -image [::skin::loadPixmap butblock] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] -
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $block --
 command--::ChatWindow::SetBlockText $w
  #Send file button
 -   label $sendfile -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsend] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $sendfile -image [::skin::loadPixmap  
 butsend] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] -
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $sendfile [trans sendfile]
  #Invite another contact button
 -   label $invite -image [::skin::loadPixmap butinvite] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $invite -image [::skin::loadPixmap  
 butinvite] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] -
 highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
  -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey
 buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
  set_balloon $invite [trans invite]
  #Webcam button
 -   label $webcam -image [::skin::loadPixmap butwebcam] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
 +   button $webcam -image [::skin::loadPixmap  
 butwebcam] -
 relief flat -padx 0 \
  -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] -
 highlightthickness 0\
   -borderwidth 0 -highlightbackground
 [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]\
   -activebackground [::skin::getKey  
 buttonbarbg]


 On 19 Feb 2007, at 19:25, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 Obviously it's not working, lol :p maybe you did something wrong...
 can we see the diff ?
 thx


 On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 05:40:03PM +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
 Weird because with button I get this (the winks plugin uses label):

 On 19 Feb 2007, at 17:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IIRC, it was to get rid of extra padding that buttons had which
 couldn't be removed...

 On 19/02/07, Tom Hennigan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll check it out now.

 On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:57, Sander Hoentjen wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-20 Thread Youness Alaoui
p.s.: a new feat added to the TODO can always be rejected, espcially when 
approching the release period...

Added :
- Add skin option for colorizing the CurrentMedia in PSM.


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)
- Finish the new Skin
- Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
- Add skin option for colorizing the CurrentMedia in PSM.



On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:19:05PM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 Added :
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
 - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
 
 Comments :
 -  Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
   Currently, in the buttonbar of a CW, when we ButtonPress on a button 
 but move the mouse outside of the 
 button before releasing it, it still activates the button, the normal 
 behavior would be to cancel the click if 
 the release is done outside of the button. We should maybe do someting like 
 bind Button1 
 handle_button_release %W %X %Y [list command to execute on bind]
 and have the handle_button_release {w x y command } { 
 if { $x  [winfo width $w]  $y  [winfo height $w] || $x  0  $y  0 } { 
 return } else {  uplevel eval 
 $command }
 }
 
 - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
   I added an option some time to ago to allow disabling of the sorting of 
 contacts by status (away 
 together, online together, brb together, etc..) in the same group, we never 
 made that option available via the 
 user interface... 
 
 
 New Complete 0.97 TODO :
 - Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
   (make it work behind proxies)
 - Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
   (make it work behind proxies)
 - Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)
 - Finish the new Skin
 - Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
 - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
button.tcl doesn't have anything to do with %X %Y... I just looked and it seems 
the ::tk::ButtonUp { w } 
doesn't check for mouse position... instead it only checks if %W is equal to 
$priv(window) which is a global 
vars where it stores the last entered button.. in other words, on FocusOut it 
unsets $priv(window) so the 
buttonRelease has a if %W ==  which is always false, so no $w invoke is 
called... 
Should we do it that way (using yet another global variable) or use the %X/%Y 
calculation ?

KKRT

On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 08:55:52PM +1100, Arieh Schneier wrote:
  Comments :
  -  Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
  Currently, in the buttonbar of a CW, when we ButtonPress on a button but
 move the mouse outside of the
  button before releasing it, it still activates the button, the normal
 behavior would be to cancel the click if
  the release is done outside of the button. We should maybe do someting
 like bind Button1
  handle_button_release %W %X %Y [list command to execute on bind]
  and have the handle_button_release {w x y command } {
  if { $x  [winfo width $w]  $y  [winfo height $w] || $x  0  $y  0 }
 { return } else {  uplevel eval
  $command }
  }
 
 That is already implemented for 'buttons' however those were changed to
 'labels' I don't remember the exact reason why, but the comment in the code
 is: #Buttons are now labels, to get nicer interface on Mac OS X. However
 if you want to just reuse the code from buttons and add it to 'labels' you
 could try just binding the events that you want in the label to the button
 events. Or you could copy the code and keep the bits you want. Anyway, all
 the code you want can be found in: button.tcl (...\Tcl\lib\tk8.4).
 
 Lio.
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Arieh Schneier
My point is that we can treat these labels as buttons and use the same
global vars as they do. They will still work as long as we use them the same
way they do. So this new global variable you are talking about already
exists.

- Original Message - 
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To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
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Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO


 button.tcl doesn't have anything to do with %X %Y... I just looked and it
seems the ::tk::ButtonUp { w }
 doesn't check for mouse position... instead it only checks if %W is equal
to $priv(window) which is a global
 vars where it stores the last entered button.. in other words, on FocusOut
it unsets $priv(window) so the
 buttonRelease has a if %W ==  which is always false, so no $w invoke is
called...
 Should we do it that way (using yet another global variable) or use the
%X/%Y calculation ?

 KKRT

 On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 08:55:52PM +1100, Arieh Schneier wrote:
   Comments :
   -  Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
   Currently, in the buttonbar of a CW, when we ButtonPress on a button
but
  move the mouse outside of the
   button before releasing it, it still activates the button, the normal
  behavior would be to cancel the click if
   the release is done outside of the button. We should maybe do someting
  like bind Button1
   handle_button_release %W %X %Y [list command to execute on bind]
   and have the handle_button_release {w x y command } {
   if { $x  [winfo width $w]  $y  [winfo height $w] || $x  0  $y 
0 }
  { return } else {  uplevel eval
   $command }
   }
 
  That is already implemented for 'buttons' however those were changed to
  'labels' I don't remember the exact reason why, but the comment in the
code
  is: #Buttons are now labels, to get nicer interface on Mac OS X.
However
  if you want to just reuse the code from buttons and add it to 'labels'
you
  could try just binding the events that you want in the label to the
button
  events. Or you could copy the code and keep the bits you want. Anyway,
all
  the code you want can be found in: button.tcl (...\Tcl\lib\tk8.4).
 
  Lio.
 
 

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 04:56 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 button.tcl doesn't have anything to do with %X %Y... I just looked and it 
 seems the ::tk::ButtonUp { w } 
 doesn't check for mouse position... instead it only checks if %W is equal to 
 $priv(window) which is a global 
 vars where it stores the last entered button.. in other words, on FocusOut it 
 unsets $priv(window) so the 
 buttonRelease has a if %W ==  which is always false, so no $w invoke is 
 called... 
 Should we do it that way (using yet another global variable) or use the %X/%Y 
 calculation ?
 
 KKRT

Well I asked in #tcl and they said there is NO reason to use a label as
a button, you can just say -relief none
Can some mac person tell us *why* we need it as a label?


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if we test it 
with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can 
always be forward compatible, it's a though call and I wouldn't make it...

about button with -relief flat, I agree, but they were already with a -relief 
flat so I suppose it has some 
differences.. also, I can't guarantee how it would look like with Chameleon...

KKRT

On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 09:40:42PM +1100, Arieh Schneier wrote:
 My point is that we can treat these labels as buttons and use the same
 global vars as they do. They will still work as long as we use them the same
 way they do. So this new global variable you are talking about already
 exists.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
 amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO
 
 
  button.tcl doesn't have anything to do with %X %Y... I just looked and it
 seems the ::tk::ButtonUp { w }
  doesn't check for mouse position... instead it only checks if %W is equal
 to $priv(window) which is a global
  vars where it stores the last entered button.. in other words, on FocusOut
 it unsets $priv(window) so the
  buttonRelease has a if %W ==  which is always false, so no $w invoke is
 called...
  Should we do it that way (using yet another global variable) or use the
 %X/%Y calculation ?
 
  KKRT
 
  On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 08:55:52PM +1100, Arieh Schneier wrote:
Comments :
-  Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
Currently, in the buttonbar of a CW, when we ButtonPress on a button
 but
   move the mouse outside of the
button before releasing it, it still activates the button, the normal
   behavior would be to cancel the click if
the release is done outside of the button. We should maybe do someting
   like bind Button1
handle_button_release %W %X %Y [list command to execute on bind]
and have the handle_button_release {w x y command } {
if { $x  [winfo width $w]  $y  [winfo height $w] || $x  0  $y 
 0 }
   { return } else {  uplevel eval
$command }
}
  
   That is already implemented for 'buttons' however those were changed to
   'labels' I don't remember the exact reason why, but the comment in the
 code
   is: #Buttons are now labels, to get nicer interface on Mac OS X.
 However
   if you want to just reuse the code from buttons and add it to 'labels'
 you
   could try just binding the events that you want in the label to the
 button
   events. Or you could copy the code and keep the bits you want. Anyway,
 all
   the code you want can be found in: button.tcl (...\Tcl\lib\tk8.4).
  
   Lio.
  
  
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 05:35 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if we test it 
 with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can 
 always be forward compatible, it's a though call and I wouldn't make it...
 
 about button with -relief flat, I agree, but they were already with a -relief 
 flat so I suppose it has some 
 differences.. also, I can't guarantee how it would look like with Chameleon...

Well I really think we should first look at exactly why we can't use
buttons. It seems to me like we are trying to fix the wrong problem
here. If we can use buttons the problem is solved.
So someone on mac, please change label to button and tell us what the
problem is exactly.
(file chatwindow.tcl, search for #Buttons are now labels, to get nicer
interface on Mac OS X)
Just change one or 2 label to button so you can easily spot the
difference.

Sander


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Tom Hennigan
I'll check it out now.

On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:57, Sander Hoentjen wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 05:35 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if  
 we test it with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can
 always be forward compatible, it's a though call and I wouldn't  
 make it...

 about button with -relief flat, I agree, but they were already  
 with a -relief flat so I suppose it has some
 differences.. also, I can't guarantee how it would look like with  
 Chameleon...

 Well I really think we should first look at exactly why we can't use
 buttons. It seems to me like we are trying to fix the wrong problem
 here. If we can use buttons the problem is solved.
 So someone on mac, please change label to button and tell us what the
 problem is exactly.
 (file chatwindow.tcl, search for #Buttons are now labels, to get  
 nicer
 interface on Mac OS X)
 Just change one or 2 label to button so you can easily spot the
 difference.

 Sander


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread capricious . falcon

IIRC, it was to get rid of extra padding that buttons had which couldn't be
removed...

On 19/02/07, Tom Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'll check it out now.

On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:57, Sander Hoentjen wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 05:35 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if
 we test it with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can
 always be forward compatible, it's a though call and I wouldn't
 make it...

 about button with -relief flat, I agree, but they were already
 with a -relief flat so I suppose it has some
 differences.. also, I can't guarantee how it would look like with
 Chameleon...

 Well I really think we should first look at exactly why we can't use
 buttons. It seems to me like we are trying to fix the wrong problem
 here. If we can use buttons the problem is solved.
 So someone on mac, please change label to button and tell us what the
 problem is exactly.
 (file chatwindow.tcl, search for #Buttons are now labels, to get
 nicer
 interface on Mac OS X)
 Just change one or 2 label to button so you can easily spot the
 difference.

 Sander


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Tom Hennigan
Weird because with button I get this (the winks plugin uses label):On 19 Feb 2007, at 17:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:IIRC, it was to get rid of extra padding that buttons had which couldn't be removed...On 19/02/07, Tom Hennigan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'll check it out now.On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:57, Sander Hoentjen wrote:  On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 05:35 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if we test it with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can always be forward compatible, it's a though call and I wouldn't  make it... about button with -relief flat, I agree, but they were already with a -relief flat so I suppose it has some differences.. also, I can't guarantee how it would look like with  Chameleon... Well I really think we should first look at exactly why we can't use buttons. It seems to me like we are trying to fix the wrong problem here. If we can use buttons the problem is solved.  So someone on mac, please change label to button and tell us what the problem is exactly. (file chatwindow.tcl, search for "#Buttons are now labels, to get nicer interface on Mac OS X")  Just change one or 2 label to button so you can easily spot the difference. Sander -- ---  Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash  http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list  Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of ITJoin SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys-and earn cashhttp://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___Amsn-devel mailing listAmsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel-Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of ITJoin SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share youropinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys-and earn cashhttp://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___Amsn-devel mailing listAmsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
Obviously it's not working, lol :p maybe you did something wrong... can we see 
the diff ?
thx


On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 05:40:03PM +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
 Weird because with button I get this (the winks plugin uses label):
 
 
 On 19 Feb 2007, at 17:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 IIRC, it was to get rid of extra padding that buttons had which  
 couldn't be removed...
 
 On 19/02/07, Tom Hennigan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll check it out now.
 
 On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:57, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 05:35 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if
  we test it with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can
  always be forward compatible, it's a though call and I wouldn't
  make it...
 
  about button with -relief flat, I agree, but they were already
  with a -relief flat so I suppose it has some
  differences.. also, I can't guarantee how it would look like with
  Chameleon...
 
  Well I really think we should first look at exactly why we can't use
  buttons. It seems to me like we are trying to fix the wrong problem
  here. If we can use buttons the problem is solved.
  So someone on mac, please change label to button and tell us what  
 the
  problem is exactly.
  (file chatwindow.tcl, search for #Buttons are now labels, to get
  nicer
  interface on Mac OS X)
  Just change one or 2 label to button so you can easily spot the
  difference.
 
  Sander
 
 
   
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-19 Thread Tom Hennigan
Lol :-P I just changed the label to button in the statements below  
that comment. Here's the diff:

Index: chatwindow.tcl
===
--- chatwindow.tcl  (revision 7978)
+++ chatwindow.tcl  (working copy)
@@ -2149,41 +2149,41 @@
 #Buttons are now labels, to get nicer interface on  
Mac OS X
 #Smiley button
-   label $smileys  -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsmile] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
+   button $smileys  -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsmile]  
-relief flat -padx 0 \
 -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0 \
 -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
buttonbarbg]  -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
 set_balloon $smileys [trans insertsmiley]
 #Font button
-   label $fontsel -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
+   button $fontsel -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
 -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
 -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
 set_balloon $fontsel [trans changefont]
-   label $voice -image [::skin::loadPixmap butvoice] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
+   button $voice -image [::skin::loadPixmap butvoice] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
 -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
 -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
 set_balloon $voice [trans sendvoice]
 #Block button
-   label $block -image [::skin::loadPixmap butblock] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
+   button $block -image [::skin::loadPixmap butblock] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
 -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
 -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
 set_balloon $block -- 
command--::ChatWindow::SetBlockText $w
 #Send file button
-   label $sendfile -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsend] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
+   button $sendfile -image [::skin::loadPixmap butsend] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
 -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
 -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
 set_balloon $sendfile [trans sendfile]
 #Invite another contact button
-   label $invite -image [::skin::loadPixmap butinvite] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
+   button $invite -image [::skin::loadPixmap butinvite] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
 -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 0\
 -highlightbackground [::skin::getKey  
buttonbarbg] -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]
 set_balloon $invite [trans invite]
 #Webcam button
-   label $webcam -image [::skin::loadPixmap butwebcam] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
+   button $webcam -image [::skin::loadPixmap butwebcam] - 
relief flat -padx 0 \
 -background [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg] - 
highlightthickness 0\
  -borderwidth 0 -highlightbackground  
[::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]\
  -activebackground [::skin::getKey buttonbarbg]


On 19 Feb 2007, at 19:25, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 Obviously it's not working, lol :p maybe you did something wrong...  
 can we see the diff ?
 thx


 On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 05:40:03PM +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
 Weird because with button I get this (the winks plugin uses label):

 On 19 Feb 2007, at 17:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IIRC, it was to get rid of extra padding that buttons had which
 couldn't be removed...

 On 19/02/07, Tom Hennigan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll check it out now.

 On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:57, Sander Hoentjen wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 05:35 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 depends on the tcl/tk version you're using I suppose and even if
 we test it with 8.4/8.5 who knows if we can
 always be forward compatible, it's a though call and I wouldn't
 make it...

 about button with -relief flat, I agree, but they were already
 with a -relief flat so I suppose it has some
 differences.. also, I can't guarantee how it would look like with
 Chameleon...

 Well I really think we should first look at exactly why we can't  
 use
 buttons. It seems to me like we are trying to fix 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
Added :
- Finish the new Skin
- Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL

Comments :
-  Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
Currently, in the buttonbar of a CW, when we ButtonPress on a button 
but move the mouse outside of the 
button before releasing it, it still activates the button, the normal behavior 
would be to cancel the click if 
the release is done outside of the button. We should maybe do someting like 
bind Button1 
handle_button_release %W %X %Y [list command to execute on bind]
and have the handle_button_release {w x y command } { 
if { $x  [winfo width $w]  $y  [winfo height $w] || $x  0  $y  0 } { 
return } else {  uplevel eval 
$command }
}

- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL
I added an option some time to ago to allow disabling of the sorting of 
contacts by status (away 
together, online together, brb together, etc..) in the same group, we never 
made that option available via the 
user interface... 


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)
- Finish the new Skin
- Find a way to really have the 'buttonrelease' behavior on buttons
- Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-11 Thread Youness Alaoui
p.s: don't forget to update your tasks on the task tracker and/or update the 
todo from this thread when you 
finished.. example, custom DPs.. is it completely done? no more issues? if yes, 
please remove it from the todo. 
assistant, billiob just committed some of it, can you update the task tracker 
and put how many % is done so we 
know how close we are ?


Removed :
- Fix multichat bug
http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2465


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-02 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Added :
- Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
- Fix multichat bug 
http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2465


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
- Fix multichat bug 
http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2465
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Hennigan
I'll help testing with SOCKS5 later on tonight if you need :-) I'm  
going out soon, but I'll be back later!

On 2 Feb 2007, at 13:45, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:


 Added :
 - Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
 - Fix multichat bug
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2465


 New Complete 0.97 TODO :
 - Make sure aMSN works with SOCKS5 proxy
 - Fix multichat bug
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2465
 - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/ 
 lephilousophe)
   (make it work behind proxies)
 - Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
 - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
 - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/ 
 kakaroto)
   (make it work behind proxies)
 - Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-02-01 Thread Youness Alaoui
Updated (added mention about proxies) :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make it work behind proxies)


New Complete 0.97 TODO :
- Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Implement the new Contact List (task # 133876) (lephilousophe)
- Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)
- Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)
  (make it work behind proxies)
- Finish the support for custom DPs (task # 125715) (dpcris85)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-01-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:49:18AM +0100, tonighx wrote:
The second task is about sending which seems to fail a bit too often.
  
   They say that it gets fixed if you restart aMSN. For me, it gets fixed if
   I remove the space from my nickname. Oh well. Could it be related to
   special characters?
  
 
  we should definitely check if the nickname encoding has something to do 
  with this. when it becomes reproducable,
  we should change nickname and see if it fixes the problem, then it would 
  mean the encoding of the nickname is
  the cause..
  oh damn, I just remembered that the ::base64::encode function adds newlines 
  to the output, and we need to do a
  [string map {\n  } [base64::encode ...]] to have a 'valid' string, 
  mayeb when the nickanme is too long it
  gets split in two lines, which makes the OIM message completely screwed.. 
  no ? (the nickname is in base64)
 
 
 Hi, it's the first time I write to this list, but I've been reading for a 
 while,
 it's exiting to see how well an open source community work!
 Now, the point:
 
 my nick is tonighx (no spaces, no special characters) but I've never
 been able to send an OIM :(
 if you need other details, please ask!
 
 tonighx

thx and welcome to the list, we'll try to fix it, don't worry ;)

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO

2007-01-30 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 the OIM support is divided into two tasks, one is for the GUI, in case 
 something is still missing, like receiving, it seems we get a totally 
 empty (blank) window if the oim is received from someone who is 
 currently offline, this needs to be investigated.

Someone reported another issue: you get the window asking whether you want 
to read your OIMs now, but if you don't click a button within 5 seconds or 
so, amsn freezes ...

 The second task is about sending which seems to fail a bit too often.

They say that it gets fixed if you restart aMSN. For me, it gets fixed if 
I remove the space from my nickname. Oh well. Could it be related to 
special characters?

 And finally.. vivia, where are you :@ :p 

Excuse me, do I have to commit every day in order for you to not ask where 
I am? I'm just not too active on the ML because so far I didn't find 
anything important to say, and I honestly prefer to commit than to send 
mails (and we seem to be heading to the right direction lately). Oh well, 
you can reduce my salary if you're still not satisfied :p

Viv

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