Re: Error encountered while executing a Web Service : Did not understand MustUnderstand header(s): (ARERR 9130)

2013-05-09 Thread Abhijit Hendre
This is because usage of apache axis 1.0 since remedy 7.6. 03 onwards...
Apache axis now sets  Mustunderstand parameter to 1... Earlier it used to
set to 0. However, remedy has not adopted these changes yet in the code.
On May 9, 2013 4:18 AM, Robert Heverley robert.hever...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Hello All,

 We have a web service that was created in ARS 6.3 and we are attempting to
 consume the web service with a filter developed in 7.6. Has anyone
 encountered the error listed above while using 7.6?? We are not patch..

 7.6.04 Build 002 201101141059

 Thank you..

 Robert
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Re: Modifying Incident

2013-05-09 Thread Joel Sender
Or,

Open the form in DevStudio and enable Menu options: Mod All is probably
unchecked.

 

Joel

Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net310.829.5552

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of rahul bose
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:54 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Modifying Incident

 

** 

If the modify All option is greyed out, it has to be a permission issue.
Check if you can add Incident Master permission to your profile and then try
to use this function.

Regards,
Rahul

 

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Govind M govind@wipro.com wrote:

** 

Pavan,

 

You can relate a pending incident with any incident. But I guess if you have
related with one incident using original of / duplicate of, the same
incident you can't relate with other one.  I just tried now and it resolved
the related incident without any error.

 

Regards,

Govind

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pavan agrawal
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Modifying Incident

 

** 

Hi,

Thanks for your response. 

But I've tried both ways i.e selecting the incidents and then Tools--
modify all but modify all option is disabled in my case and another one
that relating the incidents but upto my understanding we cannot relate the
Pending incidents.

I'hv tried this also and at this time it is showing me error.

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Govind M govind@wipro.com wrote:

I hope this will help incase if you want to resolve the pending incidents.
You can try using relationship tab. Go to the incident A which you want
actually to resolve and relate all the pending incidents using original of
type like below.  On resolving incident A, it will resolve all the pending
incidents. But pls check your Filter API timeout. There is an unsaid
constraint on the number of incidents to relate for resolving related
incidents. I tried this in 7.1 for resolving 240 incidents but ends with
Filter time out error.

Current request : incident A original of  related incident B

Govind


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pavan Agrawal
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:22 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Modifying Incident

Hi,
I know that what I am going to ask is silly.. Is there is any functionality
in Incident mangement to modiyf all the pending incident by modifying only
one incident..
Actually what i want to do is to modify the status of all the pending
incident by modifying the status of only one incident Currently we are using
7.0


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AD: Data Import Suggestions

2013-05-09 Thread Ben Chernys
Meta-Update offers the speed and flexibility of API - without the
programming or API skills required AND with lots of features for data
transformations etc.  It is designed for Remedy developers and
administrators using a language they already know:  Queries and assignments.

 

With Meta-Update you can launch server or client processes - including the
special filter processes, handle input and output files, make multiple
server connections, use CSVs as LookUp files, cache records from ARS, create
several types of auditing logs.  A further automatic feature when importing
files, is the creation of a like file containing only those original source
records that failed.  Meta-Update includes a debugger.  You can single-step
a script, examine records and data in memory, set breakpoints.

 

So, for example, a script that imports a CSV to different CMDB classes -
based on a LookUp of data in that row against another CSV - and adjusting
attributes such as 1TB to a number (as in disk sizes) took an hour to write
and is described in a presentation here
http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com/product/SthMupd/2012-RUG-de.html .

 

The data import tool will typically be used to import into a staging form
that must be created with appropriate filters to validate data and push to
the required forms.  Any lookups are coded in filters and the lookup data
itself must be in a remedy form.  This can take a long time to develop and
test.

 

API programming also requires skills and efforts and take considerable time.
Meta-Update give you the power of the API without the need for programming.

 

Meta-Update, on the other-hand, requires absolutely no changes to the
server.  No staging forms, no workflow.  Once a script is developed it can
be used over and over again on different files and can be fired through the
OS scheduling tools or by Remedy itself.  There are no charges for scripts
already developed and we have many such scripts for almost all requirements
of ITSM imports, data migrations, validations, changes.

 

The efforts to write a script from scratch for what Abdul is talking about
would be around 15 minutes.

 

From one of our customers:

 

I recommend Meta-Update for all those who want the flexibility of a
scripting language to handle bulk ARS data.

 

For a trial or presentation, please contact us.

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jim Coryat (jcoryat)
Sent: May-08-13 23:40
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Data Import Suggestions

 

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Agreed, but not everyone has an understanding of how to utilize an API level
interface.  For those, the Remedy Data Import Tool suffices.

 

Jim Coryat

x34655

 

From: Alan Truelove [mailto:truelove.a...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Data Import Suggestions

 

** 

Use  Remedy Java API -- I have done this precise task (Inputting large
batch CI -- Access db, EXCEL, csv files, etc etc into Asset forms) several
times over the past few years, it is much faster and less troublesome than
the standard Remedy tool(s).
571 242 0153.  Best wishes.

 

 

  _  

From: Abdullah Baytops abayt...@onefederalsolution.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Data Import Suggestions

 

** 

I wanted to know what suggestions anyone would have on the easiest way to
import information into the (Asset Module ) specifically the AST: Equipment
form of ITSM 7.6.04?  

 

V/R

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BMC Communities Discussion regarding maintaining our environment details on Support Central

2013-05-09 Thread Jason Miller
Hi all,

I thought I would share the link to this discussion here.  Over the years
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(not quite a) Poll - environment log for Customer
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Re: Modifying Incident

2013-05-09 Thread pavan agrawal
Thanks all for your prompt and valuable reply.. now I am able to modify
tickets.. thanks once again

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Joel Sender jdsen...@earthlink.net wrote:

 **

 Or,

 Open the form in DevStudio and enable Menu options: Mod All is probably
 unchecked.

 ** **

 *Joel***

 Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net310.829.5552

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *rahul bose
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:54 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Modifying Incident

  ** **

 ** 

 If the modify All option is greyed out, it has to be a permission issue.
 Check if you can add Incident Master permission to your profile and then
 try to use this function.

 Regards,
 Rahul

 ** **

 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Govind M govind@wipro.com wrote:***
 *

 ** 

 Pavan,

  

 You can relate a pending incident with any incident. But I guess if you
 have related with one incident using original of / duplicate of, the same
 incident you can’t relate with other one.  I just tried now and it resolved
 the related incident without any error.

  

 Regards,

 Govind

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *pavan agrawal
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:04 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Modifying Incident

  

 ** 

 Hi,

 Thanks for your response. 

 But I've tried both ways i.e selecting the incidents and then Tools--
 modify all but modify all option is disabled in my case and another one
 that relating the incidents but upto my understanding we cannot relate
 the Pending incidents.

 I'hv tried this also and at this time it is showing me error.

 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Govind M govind@wipro.com wrote:***
 *

 I hope this will help incase if you want to resolve the pending incidents.
 You can try using relationship tab. Go to the incident A which you want
 actually to resolve and relate all the pending incidents using original
 of type like below.  On resolving incident A, it will resolve all the
 pending incidents. But pls check your Filter API timeout. There is an
 unsaid constraint on the number of incidents to relate for resolving
 related incidents. I tried this in 7.1 for resolving 240 incidents but ends
 with Filter time out error.

 Current request : incident A original of  related incident B

 Govind


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pavan Agrawal
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:22 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Modifying Incident

 Hi,
 I know that what I am going to ask is silly.. Is there is any
 functionality in Incident mangement to modiyf all the pending incident by
 modifying only one incident..
 Actually what i want to do is to modify the status of all the pending
 incident by modifying the status of only one incident Currently we are
 using 7.0


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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Lee Cullom
Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved)
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are 
coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management technology 
to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the Tivoli product line.
Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the financials 
yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the Enterprise, that's 
Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require investment and innovation 
(this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)... and an AppExchange like 
community (this group) to develop new offerings that are needed to compete with 
ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center, Facilities Management, etc...).  This will 
require some heavy ARsystem work as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for 
the cloud.

Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS 
capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price 
point.

The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to become 
another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle EBS).

However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some point 
with new ownership.  

Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic!



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Depends on your definition of successful Bain makes money for stock holders 
... yes successful company??? well

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Web Service - attachment input type

2013-05-09 Thread Subash Biswas
Sorry for not reviewing the previous posts. I want to confirm that 'you can 
send attachments to Remedy via a web service in a base64Binary format *only*
'?

Please let me know, thanks,
Subash Biswas

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OOTB Functionality question.

2013-05-09 Thread Sachin Verma
Hi Team,

Does anyone has the info if the functionality exists OOTB in RoD to copy the 
Opt and Prod Cats to the Resolution Opt and Prod Cats upon status being equal 
to Resolved if the Resolution Opt and Prod Cats are blank.

Regards,
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Re: OOTB Functionality question.

2013-05-09 Thread Rick Cook
No, it doesn't, and shouldn't.  The initial OpCats are symptomatic, the
Resolution Cats are root cause.

Rick
On May 9, 2013 4:49 AM, Sachin Verma sachin.ve...@accenture.com wrote:

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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved)
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are 
coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management technology 
to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the Tivoli product line.
Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the financials 
yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the Enterprise, that's 
Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require investment and innovation 
(this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)... and an AppExchange like 
community (this group) to develop new offerings that are needed to compete with 
ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center, Facilities Management, etc...).  This will 
require some heavy ARsystem work as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for 
the cloud.

Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS 
capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price 
point.

The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to become 
another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle EBS).

However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some point 
with new ownership.  

Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic!



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HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect

2013-05-09 Thread Nowak, James
I have a new 7.6.04 environment that we are standing up.  I have configured SSL 
on my web servers and can login, etc. However I am now trying to setup 
HTTP--HTTPS redirection w/in IIS and am having some issues.

I have tried several different methods and none have worked successfully.

Anyone else have success doing this?  Any input/feedback/config info would be 
greatly appreciated.

My Web Servers are:  Windows 2008 R2 w/ IIS 7.5 and Tomcat 6


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Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS

2013-05-09 Thread Hugo Ruesga
The only message that appears on the Admin is:
Field operation failed on server 112 ARRERR (552)


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 Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:50:10 +
 From: frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 But what SQL Error are you receiving in the Admin tool?   
 
 I have had in the past, errors from the Admin tool about Views not being 
 created, and those will not affect ARS (as the DB Views are not used by ARS).
 
 Fred
 
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 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 
 ** 
 Thanks for your replies.
 
 Fred;
 
 I'm aware that SQL is not case sensitive, however it must have something to 
 do, since if I attempt to modify any existing field on the forms labeled as t 
 instead of T, I received the SQL error. I turned on the SQL log, but couldn't 
 find any specific message that could lead to determine if the query is 
 failing. However new fields added to the form are available for modification. 
 Really weird, for sure; also I recall do not modifying by SQL ARS table 
 structure, however could find technical notes and it mentions the chance of 
 use Alter table command. But only on DB2.
 
 About the other chance mentioned by Phil, that could be the best approach, 
 but I have the limitation about time, table has been there for 10 years, but 
 don't know when it was modified, and data would take more than the time I had 
 (last night i released a new WF on that form for setting rightly RLS field). 
 However if it fails, I'd give a shot to recreate the form from the ground. 
 Even I tried to import the DEV form, but it failed too. but guess I'll need 
 to wait and give a try to Phil's recommendation.
 
 Thanks for your response
 Hugo Ruesga 
 Software Development Advisor
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 -Original Message-
 Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 09:47:13 -0500
 From: pmurn...@windwardits.com
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 ** 
 Hugo:
  
 I'm working from memory on this solution, so I'd recommend allowing a few 
 hours for other listers to comment on it -- just in case I'm forgetting 
 something.  I'd also recommend opening a support incident with BMC to verify 
 the procedure before performing it.
  
 If you have a development ARS server, you could export the form and related 
 workflow from the production ARS server, and see if it will import into the 
 development server.  If successful, then you could proceed with the 
 following...
  
 1. Stop the ARS services, back up your database, and start the ARS services 
 2. Export the data from the production form into an .arx file 
 3. Export the form and related workflow into a .def file 
 4. Delete the form 
 1. If a warning appears about join forms that depend on this form, then do 
 not delete and cancel this procedure 
 2. If the delete fails (eg, ARS is unable to make SQL drop the table), then 
 cancel this procedure, stop the ARS services, restore the database from 
 backup, and start the services again
 5. Import the form from the .def file into production 
 6. Import the data from the .arx file 
 7. Import the remaining workflow from the .def file
  
 This procedure will re-create the form cleanly.
  
 HTH,
 --Phil
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On 
 Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga [lord_dyna...@outlook.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 21:58
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 ** 
 Guys, 
 
 Besides that this could be a really silly question. I'd like to check with 
 all of the gurus here.
 
 I need to increase the length of the RLS field on Remedy (ARS 7.0.01 patch 
 007) over a custom development, but when I do this on the Admin, It returns 
 an SQL error, and field is not saved on the form.
 
 I went further and find that this table on the properties for the ARSystem DB 
 (SQL Server) the table is labeled as t instead of T, what makes me think that 
 someone had already played with the form. Question here is: Will I broke more 
 at DB if I modify this field by 

Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS

2013-05-09 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
552I would have expected that to show up in the SQL log or the server's 
arerror.log at least

The info for 552 is:   
An SQL database error occurred during an operation against the database. An 
associated error message contains the full text of the error message from the 
database.

The error is often a message about running out of space in the database log or 
data area. You can correct this by increasing the size of the data area or by 
flushing or increasing the size of the log area.


One thing I just thought of ...  Is the field you are increasing used in an 
index?  Some database versions can't handle indexes of more than 256 characters 
total in length (I don't remember specifics on MS SQL Server versions).

Fred

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS

** 
The only message that appears on the Admin is:

Field operation failed on server 112 ARRERR (552)

Hugo Ruesga 
Software Development Advisor
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MX +52 (33) 3332.3868


-Original Message-
 Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:50:10 +
 From: frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 But what SQL Error are you receiving in the Admin tool? 
 
 I have had in the past, errors from the Admin tool about Views not being 
 created, and those will not affect ARS (as the DB Views are not used by ARS).
 
 Fred
 
 Thanks for your response
 Hugo Ruesga 
 Software Development Advisor
 US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
 MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On 
 Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga [lord_dyna...@outlook.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 21:58
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 ** 
 Guys, 
 
 Besides that this could be a really silly question. I'd like to check with 
 all of the gurus here.
 
 I need to increase the length of the RLS field on Remedy (ARS 7.0.01 patch 
 007) over a custom development, but when I do this on the Admin, It returns 
 an SQL error, and field is not saved on the form.
 
 I went further and find that this table on the properties for the ARSystem DB 
 (SQL Server) the table is labeled as t instead of T, what makes me think that 
 someone had already played with the form. Question here is: Will I broke more 
 at DB if I modify this field by using alter table and alter column commands?
 
 Thanks
 Hugo Ruesga 
 Software Development Advisor
 US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
 MX +52 (33) 3332.3868

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Re: AR System ODBC driver

2013-05-09 Thread Hennigan, Sandra
A simple way to get around the application drag when using parameters is to 
create custom forms and add the custom form to the Help Desk report.

Example: create a form to hold Support Groups. The parameter runs off the 
custom form for the user to select which groups to include in the report. Then, 
instead of the query of all data for the specific support groups, the query 
runs for only the selected support groups.

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Schon, Stuart
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 8:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System ODBC driver

**
Almost everything in CR is usable. But do you want to do so. Things like 
dynamic parameters can make running the report very slow as lists of values 
need to queried from the table being referenced.

For example if you are reporting on the Helpdesk form and you have a parameter 
based on Status that is pulled from the DB for selection by the person running 
the report-every record in the Helpdesk form will be read to determine the 
list. You cannot branch off and read this from another table. So if there are 
10M records then CR will read all 10M to determine the definitive list of 
Statuses.

If the report is being run externally from Remedy then
Static Parameters (simple or list) can be used
User enterable values can be used, e.g. Dates and date ranges
Optional parameters (these default to Null which might not be what you want)
Sub-reports - yes as already stated
SQL Commands -yes but only tables and views and only one. It can't be a stored 
procedure or function or.

If the report is embedded in Remedy then its tied to a form and about the only 
thing else that works is sub-reports. Especially you can get the CR to ask for 
parameters you need to get Remedy to do so which is used to pre-filter the data 
presented to the CR report.

Get the guy to try things and he will get the idea of what is possible and 
what's not.


Stuart Schon
Service Desk Systems - Manager

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013 10:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System ODBC driver

**
All,
Thanks for the great info...
So here is some info from my superuser who has exp with Crystal (and I don't).
Do you guys know if these features are supported by the driver?
Crystal in general supports all these functions: multi-value parameters, 
optional parameters, static/dynamic parameters, sub-reports, TSQL Commands... 
But what is supported with the AR System Driver, and do the normal steps in 
Crystal still apply to make the functionality still work?

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Schon, Stuart 
stuart.sc...@au.fujitsu.commailto:stuart.sc...@au.fujitsu.com wrote:
Sorry yes your right Fred, I meant that you CAN'T use dynamic joins
(i.e. in the SQL) when using the OBDC driver. And as you pointed out you
CAN'T see anything your userid is not supposed to see in the report.

Using sub-reports is a real solution but it can be really really slow if
a significant number of parent records are being processed.


Use of the ODBC driver has significant benefits as it decodes many of
the DB field values into nice things like dates and readable Strings for
things such as Status. You can also test dates in your query without
having to decode them to epoch values.


Stuart Schon
Service Desk Systems - Manager

Fujitsu Australia Limited
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, 
Frederick W
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013 11:42 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System ODBC driver

I think Stuart had a typo ...
Since the ODBC uses the Remedy application server, if you can't see
something in Remedy you can't see it using the ODBC driver.

One way around the join limitation is to use sub-reports in Crystal.
You can then have multiple form(s) data in the report

Fred

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Schon, 
Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR System ODBC driver

The main limitation is that you can perform joins in the query using the
OBDC driver. If you need to join tables together you need to build them
in Remedy first and then use in your report.

The other restriction/feature is that the driver uses the Remedy data
security model - so if you can't see something using Remedy you can't
see it in a report.

Stuart Schon
Service Desk Systems - Manager

Fujitsu Australia Limited

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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Lee Cullom
Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure.  However, I 
would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition because 
neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales force.  Pricing 
would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap would be cloudy and 
buried under products with much larger markets.  ITSM is only a $1.5 billion 
dollar market, so RD dollars would go to the larger markets like CRM ($15 
Billion).  Also, there would be no hope of Remedy becoming a PaaS as it should. 
 With some architectural changes, Remedy could be the most powerful PaaS on the 
planet, so I see BMC as the last hope of that happening.  Imagine if this 
community could become part of an AppExchange.

Still - to your point, Remedy will survive.  In fact, Remedy will survive no 
matter what happens, but I just harken back to those days when it was 
thriving... as a separate BU under Dick Stark at BMC (30+% Revenue Growth at 
that time)... or when Remedy was its own company.

The product is still the best.  ServiceNow's biggest win was in hiring all of 
the ex-Remedy sales people and solution consultants (impact of a specialty 
sales force).  That's how they're winning... not to mention their vastly 
superior support team.  Listen to a support call with a ServiceNow customer vs. 
BMC Support.  I've heard them both multiple times since we have customers on 
both product lines.  BMC = Send me your logs, send me your logs, send me your 
logs.  Vs. SNOW = A 2nd or 3rd tier quality person on the front-line.

However, given enough time and money, ServiceNow could make their product 
better.  On the flip side, they're a public company now, so watch how their 
model changes from what I just described.  In fact, customers tell me that they 
already charge for approvers and end users now... the cycle continues.



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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me.

Thanks,

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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved)
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are 
coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management technology 
to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the Tivoli product line.
Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the financials 
yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the Enterprise, that's 
Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require investment and innovation 
(this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)... and an AppExchange like 
community (this group) to develop new offerings that are needed to compete with 
ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center, Facilities Management, etc...).  This will 
require some heavy ARsystem work as well (go 

SSL Certificate issues in 8.1

2013-05-09 Thread Karthik
HI All,

I have a 8.1 ARS installed on Win server 2008 R2 box and in need to
configure AREA authentication via SSL.

Simple Binding without SSL works fine, however i cant test the
authentication from Remedy as the AD has a policy set such that we can
only authenticate via SSL.

Scenario is: Customer has an Enterprise CA server and there is not
certificate DB on the windows box. So, following actions have been taken:
1. Followed the documentation on BMC site and installed mozilla build, NSS
and then built the certificate database on the server hosting the ARS 8.1
2. We need to add certificate to the cert8.db. This is where we have
issues. coz, the AD Admin created a certificate request file using native
windows certutil tool and then requested the enterprise CA for a
certificate and then installed the certificate. When i try to import the
certificate to the certificate database using the NSS certutil tool, the
certificate gets added. however, when i try to authenticate via AREA, i see
an error in javaplugin.log as Invalid Keystre format

I have never configured AREA over SSL and a novice to the certificates
stuff. So, please help me understand following facts so that i can continue
on the right path:
1. When the certificate request file is generated, the CN= should have
the AD Server name or the hostname of the server that hosts ARS 8.1
2. as i understand even the nss based certutil also can create a
certificate request file, should i create a certificate request file from
this or does the creation of request file from native windows certutil also
work?

I have opened a case with BMC as well, however any help is also appreciated
as i am in a tight spot currently
-- 
- Karthik

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Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS

2013-05-09 Thread Hugo Ruesga
That's the funny part, no error on both logs.


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 Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:59:17 +
 From: frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 552I would have expected that to show up in the SQL log or the server's 
 arerror.log at least
 
 The info for 552 is:   
 An SQL database error occurred during an operation against the database. An 
 associated error message contains the full text of the error message from the 
 database.
 
 The error is often a message about running out of space in the database log 
 or data area. You can correct this by increasing the size of the data area or 
 by flushing or increasing the size of the log area.
 
 
 One thing I just thought of ...  Is the field you are increasing used in an 
 index?  Some database versions can't handle indexes of more than 256 
 characters total in length (I don't remember specifics on MS SQL Server 
 versions).
 
 Fred
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:50 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 
 ** 
 The only message that appears on the Admin is:
 
 Field operation failed on server 112 ARRERR (552)
 
 Hugo Ruesga 
 Software Development Advisor
 US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
 MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
 
 
 -Original Message-
  Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:50:10 +
  From: frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
  Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  
  But what SQL Error are you receiving in the Admin tool? 
  
  I have had in the past, errors from the Admin tool about Views not being 
  created, and those will not affect ARS (as the DB Views are not used by 
  ARS).
  
  Fred
  
  Thanks for your response
  Hugo Ruesga 
  Software Development Advisor
  US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
  MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
  
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] 
  On Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga [lord_dyna...@outlook.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 21:58
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
  ** 
  Guys, 
  
  Besides that this could be a really silly question. I'd like to check with 
  all of the gurus here.
  
  I need to increase the length of the RLS field on Remedy (ARS 7.0.01 patch 
  007) over a custom development, but when I do this on the Admin, It returns 
  an SQL error, and field is not saved on the form.
  
  I went further and find that this table on the properties for the ARSystem 
  DB (SQL Server) the table is labeled as t instead of T, what makes me think 
  that someone had already played with the form. Question here is: Will I 
  broke more at DB if I modify this field by using alter table and alter 
  column commands?
  
  Thanks
  Hugo Ruesga 
  Software Development Advisor
  US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
  MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] OOTB Functionality question.

2013-05-09 Thread Stroud, Natalie K
Sachin:

As far as the OOB functionality, with at least 7.6.04, the Prod Cats are 
automatically copied over to the Res Prod Cats if they (Res Prod Cats) are 
blank at resolve time, the Op Cats are not copied over.

I couldn't say for sure if that's the case with earlier versions or even with 
v. 8 and higher, though with v. 8 and above, it probably is.

Natalie Stroud
SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories
ARS-ITSM Reporting Specialist
Albuquerque, NM USA
nkst...@sandia.govmailto:nkst...@sandia.gov
ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 - Windows 2003 - SQL Server 2008


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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] OOTB Functionality question.

**
Hi Team,

Does anyone has the info if the functionality exists OOTB in RoD to copy the 
Opt and Prod Cats to the Resolution Opt and Prod Cats upon status being equal 
to Resolved if the Resolution Opt and Prod Cats are blank.

Regards,
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Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS

2013-05-09 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
If you have the Alter Table SQL command (from the SQL Logs) you may have to try 
running it manually (and any SQL commands after) to see exactly what the SQL 
Server error is

If you still can't find an error then maybe the ARS Server is trying to do a 
case sensitive check on the table name.  
That you can fix by renaming the table (rename it twice as I have seen some 
cases where just changing the case of the name doesn't recognize that the name 
is changing):   

EXEC sp_rename 't', 'tOLD';
EXEC sp_rename 'tOLD', 'T';

Fred

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS

** 
That's the funny part, no error on both logs.

Hugo Ruesga 
Software Development Advisor
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MX +52 (33) 3332.3868

-Original Message-
 Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:59:17 +
 From: frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 552 I would have expected that to show up in the SQL log or the server's 
 arerror.log at least
 
 The info for 552 is: 
 An SQL database error occurred during an operation against the database. An 
 associated error message contains the full text of the error message from the 
 database.
 
 The error is often a message about running out of space in the database log 
 or data area. You can correct this by increasing the size of the data area or 
 by flushing or increasing the size of the log area.
 
 
 One thing I just thought of ... Is the field you are increasing used in an 
 index? Some database versions can't handle indexes of more than 256 
 characters total in length (I don't remember specifics on MS SQL Server 
 versions).
 
 Fred
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:50 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
 
 ** 
 The only message that appears on the Admin is:
 
 Field operation failed on server 112 ARRERR (552)
 
 Hugo Ruesga 
 Software Development Advisor
 US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
 MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
 
 
 -Original Message-
  Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:50:10 +
  From: frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
  Subject: Re: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  
  But what SQL Error are you receiving in the Admin tool? 
  
  I have had in the past, errors from the Admin tool about Views not being 
  created, and those will not affect ARS (as the DB Views are not used by 
  ARS).
  
  Fred
  
  Thanks for your response
  Hugo Ruesga 
  Software Development Advisor
  US  972.577.7000 x 332.3868
  MX +52 (33) 3332.3868
  
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] 
  On Behalf Of Hugo Ruesga [lord_dyna...@outlook.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 21:58
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: [URGENT]Use Alter Table Alter Column on Remedy ARS
  ** 
  Guys, 
  
  Besides that this could be a really silly question. I'd like to check with 
  all of the gurus here.
  
  I need to increase the length of the RLS field on Remedy (ARS 7.0.01 patch 
  007) over a custom development, but when I do this on the Admin, It returns 
  an SQL error, and field is not saved on the form.
  
  I went further and find that this table on the properties for the ARSystem 
  DB (SQL Server) the table is labeled as t instead of T, what makes me think 
  that someone had already played with the form. Question here is: Will I 
  broke more at DB if I modify this field by using alter table and alter 
  column commands?
  
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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt with 
support from SAP?  

Tim


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved)
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are 
coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management technology 
to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the Tivoli product line.
Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the financials 
yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the Enterprise, that's 
Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require investment and innovation 
(this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)... and an AppExchange like 
community (this group) to develop new offerings that are needed to compete with 
ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center, Facilities Management, etc...).  This will 
require some heavy ARsystem work as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for 
the cloud.

Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS 
capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price 
point.

The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to become 
another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle EBS).

However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some point 
with new ownership.  

Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic!



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http://www.youtube.com/user/northcraftanalytics

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Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:29 AM
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Depends on your definition of successful Bain makes money for stock holders 
... yes successful company??? well

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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Pierson, Shawn
We have SAP (and Oracle eBusiness) within my organization, and I haven't heard 
any unusual complaints.  Is it worse than BMC's, Send us the same log files 
you already sent us so we can ask you for new log files of the same thing next 
week, then we'll close the ticket out for being too old customer service?  I 
haven't interacted with BMC Support for a while so maybe I'm being unfair, but 
it often seemed like they just wanted to waste your time and hope you solved 
the problem on your own.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:04 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt with 
support from SAP?  

Tim


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved)
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are 
coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management technology 
to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the Tivoli product line.
Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the financials 
yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the Enterprise, that's 
Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require investment and innovation 
(this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)... and an AppExchange like 
community (this group) to develop new offerings that are needed to compete with 
ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center, Facilities Management, etc...).  This will 
require some heavy ARsystem work as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for 
the cloud.

Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS 
capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price 
point.

The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to become 
another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle EBS).

However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some point 
with new ownership.  

Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic!



For our latest product demonstrations, please visit – 
http://www.youtube.com/user/northcraftanalytics

Lee Cullom | Northcraft Analytics
IT Metrics Specialist | Business Intelligence for ITSM Direct - 678-438-7244 | 
lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com
Main - (678) 664-ITSM

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jesse
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:29 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Depends on your definition of successful Bain makes money for stock holders 
... yes successful company??? well

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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Jason Miller
Great point!  I think BMC just got (or will later this year) the upper hand
vs.SNOW.  BMC *can* now be more flexible while SNOW is now slave to the
money.


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Lee Cullom 
lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com wrote:

 Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure.  However, I
 would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition
 because neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales
 force.  Pricing would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap
 would be cloudy and buried under products with much larger markets.  ITSM
 is only a $1.5 billion dollar market, so RD dollars would go to the larger
 markets like CRM ($15 Billion).  Also, there would be no hope of Remedy
 becoming a PaaS as it should.  With some architectural changes, Remedy
 could be the most powerful PaaS on the planet, so I see BMC as the last
 hope of that happening.  Imagine if this community could become part of an
 AppExchange.

 Still - to your point, Remedy will survive.  In fact, Remedy will survive
 no matter what happens, but I just harken back to those days when it was
 thriving... as a separate BU under Dick Stark at BMC (30+% Revenue Growth
 at that time)... or when Remedy was its own company.

 The product is still the best.  ServiceNow's biggest win was in hiring all
 of the ex-Remedy sales people and solution consultants (impact of a
 specialty sales force).  That's how they're winning... not to mention their
 vastly superior support team.  Listen to a support call with a ServiceNow
 customer vs. BMC Support.  I've heard them both multiple times since we
 have customers on both product lines.  BMC = Send me your logs, send me
 your logs, send me your logs.  Vs. SNOW = A 2nd or 3rd tier quality person
 on the front-line.

 However, given enough time and money, ServiceNow could make their product
 better.  On the flip side, they're a public company now, so watch how their
 model changes from what I just described.  In fact, customers tell me that
 they already charge for approvers and end users now... the cycle continues.



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 http://www.youtube.com/user/northcraftanalytics

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 Direct - 678-438-7244 | lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative
 thing in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be
 swallowed up inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken
 Oracle to combine the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products
 directly competing?)  I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes
 up, or some other unknown odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be
 an opportunity for Remedy to be implemented in shops that may not have a
 good ITSM solution but already have installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever
 hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a pessimistic scenario it doesn't
 seem too bad to me.

 Thanks,

 Shawn Pierson
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

 - Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units
 - Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
 - They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone
 who can use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be
 involved)
 - They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the
 newly private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.

 So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since
 it will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
 Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are
 coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management
 technology to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the
 Tivoli product line.
 Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the
 financials yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the
 Enterprise, that's Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require
 investment and innovation 

Re: customer affiliation

2013-05-09 Thread Leonard Nelson
In case it helps, here is some additional detail regarding the changes we made 
for Remedy 8.0  to facilitate custom Client Type values:

- On CTM:People form - added custom client type attributes to the Client Type 
(100022) field
- On CTM:LoadPeople form - added custom client type attributes to the Client 
Type2 (304316040) and Client Type (100022) field
- On CTM:SHR:ValidateCompany_210 filter - modified the Run If Qualification to 
include/exclude Client Type values

Leo

-Original Message-
From: Leonard Nelson 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:17 AM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: RE: customer affiliation

We chose to use the 'Affiliation' field on CTM:People which led to us having to 
modify a couple of forms, including CTM:People, HPD:IncidentInterface_Create, 
HPD:IncidentInterface to include our custom affiliations e.g. Student, 
Employee, Alumni etc.. 

It was necessary to generate good reports on the types of calls we were getting 
and also ensure that our custom apps could generate tickets with the 
appropriate affiliations.
 
Leo

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jessica Hinkal
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:05 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: customer affiliation

Any edu's out there capture customer affiliation within Remedy ITSM 8.0 people 
record? If so, where did you put that information. Did you have to customize 
the people record to record this attribute? We are looking to classify our 
people based on their affiliation here (student, faculty, staff, alumni, etc).

Any information would be great!

Thanks!
Jessica Hinkal
University at Buffalo
CIT/NCS
111 Computing Center
Buffalo, NY 14260
716-645-3505

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Sending Attachment from Remedy to external Web Service

2013-05-09 Thread Campbell, Paul (Paul)
Has anyone had any luck sending a file in a remedy Attachment field to an 
external web service that accepts attachments, I have a requirement to send a 
tar file to a Siebel web service that accepts attachments and looking for 
pointer on how to do this?  Our servers are RH Linux running ARS 7.6.04 with 
custom apps.  I can either send the file from an attachment field or from a 
file on the servers hard disk.

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Team |  Avaya Client Services  |
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Email from ITSM 7.6.04

2013-05-09 Thread Brittain, Mark
HI All,

First let me say thank you to all who responded to my inquiry Email to ARS 
7.6.04. Great responses and very helpful. Now I need to work on sending an 
email from the Incident or Change.  If I want the FROM address to be different 
than the mailbox default or want to send from a different outbound mailbox. In 
6.3 I just created an active link which on display set the from address I 
wanted. Then the Notify filter just read the $Send From$. Where would I change 
this?

Thanks
Mark

Mark Brittain
Remedy Developer
ITILv3 Foundation
NaviSite - A Time Warner Cable Company
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Re: Sending Attachment from Remedy to external Web Service

2013-05-09 Thread Campbell, Paul (Paul)
OK, it seems you should just try something before you ask, it was fairly 
simple, I just mapped the attachment field directly into the WS field that 
accepted the base64 encoded file data

From: Campbell, Paul (Paul)
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:15 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Sending Attachment from Remedy to external Web Service

Has anyone had any luck sending a file in a remedy Attachment field to an 
external web service that accepts attachments, I have a requirement to send a 
tar file to a Siebel web service that accepts attachments and looking for 
pointer on how to do this?  Our servers are RH Linux running ARS 7.6.04 with 
custom apps.  I can either send the file from an attachment field or from a 
file on the servers hard disk.

Paul Campbell  | Development Team Lead  |  TSD SSBL, A2R WFE, and ESP Remedy 
Team |  Avaya Client Services  |
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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread pritch
Slow down on the acquisition:

Law office of Brodsky  Smith, LLC announces that it is investigating potential 
claims against the Board of Directors of BMC Software, Inc. (“BMC” or the 
“Company”) (BMC) relating to the proposed acquisition by Bain Capital, Golden 
Gate Capital, GIC Special Investments and Insight Venture Partners (“Investor 
Group”).

Here's the link:  
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/shareholder-alert-law-office-brodsky-182900157.html

- Original Message -
From: Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

** 
Great point!  I think BMC just got (or will later this year) the upper hand 
vs.SNOW.   BMC *can* now be more flexible while SNOW is now slave to the money. 



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Lee Cullom  lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
 wrote: 


Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure.  However, I 
would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition because 
neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales force.  Pricing 
would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap would be cloudy and 
buried under products with much larger markets.  ITSM is only a $1.5 billion 
dollar market, so RD dollars would go to the larger markets like CRM ($15 
Billion).  Also, there would be no hope of Remedy becoming a PaaS as it should. 
 With some architectural changes, Remedy could be the most powerful PaaS on the 
planet, so I see BMC as the last hope of that happening.  Imagine if this 
community could become part of an AppExchange. 

Still - to your point, Remedy will survive.  In fact, Remedy will survive no 
matter what happens, but I just harken back to those days when it was 
thriving... as a separate BU under Dick Stark at BMC (30+% Revenue Growth at 
that time)... or when Remedy was its own company. 

The product is still the best.  ServiceNow's biggest win was in hiring all of 
the ex-Remedy sales people and solution consultants (impact of a specialty 
sales force).  That's how they're winning... not to mention their vastly 
superior support team.  Listen to a support call with a ServiceNow customer vs. 
BMC Support.  I've heard them both multiple times since we have customers on 
both product lines.  BMC = Send me your logs, send me your logs, send me your 
logs.  Vs. SNOW = A 2nd or 3rd tier quality person on the front-line. 

However, given enough time and money, ServiceNow could make their product 
better.  On the flip side, they're a public company now, so watch how their 
model changes from what I just described.  In fact, customers tell me that they 
already charge for approvers and end users now... the cycle continues. 




For our latest product demonstrations, please visit – 
http://www.youtube.com/user/northcraftanalytics 

Lee Cullom | Northcraft Analytics 
IT Metrics Specialist | Business Intelligence for ITSM 
Direct - 678-438-7244 | lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
Main - (678) 664-ITSM 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:42 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me. 

Thanks, 

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer 


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up: 

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc... 
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved) 
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 

Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread arslist
Lawyers trolling. If they think it is worth more, the law office of Brodsky  
Smith LLC should just put in an offer. Oh right, they had their chance and 
didn't. Or perhaps BMC should have opened itself up to higher bids? Oh right, 
they did. So what is their point again? That BMC Software should turn down an 
offer with a slight premium in favour of some potential future gain? So the BMC 
Board of Directors should gamble but they are based in Houston not Las Vegas.

I guess my question is: The Board has recommended accepting the offer, do the 
shareholders have to go along with it, or does the BMC Board actually have the 
authority and have authorized the sale to go private and the decision is final? 
What are the rules?

Dan


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: May 9, 2013 2:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Slow down on the acquisition:

Law office of Brodsky  Smith, LLC announces that it is investigating potential 
claims against the Board of Directors of BMC Software, Inc. (�BMC� or the 
�Company�) (BMC) relating to the proposed acquisition by Bain Capital, Golden 
Gate Capital, GIC Special Investments and Insight Venture Partners (�Investor 
Group�).

Here's the link:  
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/shareholder-alert-law-office-brodsky-182900157.html

- Original Message -
From: Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

** 
Great point! �I think BMC just got (or will later this year) the upper hand 
vs.SNOW. � BMC *can* now be more flexible while SNOW is now slave to the money. 



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Lee Cullom  lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
 wrote: 


Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure. �However, I 
would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition because 
neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales force. �Pricing 
would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap would be cloudy and 
buried under products with much larger markets. �ITSM is only a $1.5 billion 
dollar market, so RD dollars would go to the larger markets like CRM ($15 
Billion). �Also, there would be no hope of Remedy becoming a PaaS as it should. 
�With some architectural changes, Remedy could be the most powerful PaaS on the 
planet, so I see BMC as the last hope of that happening. �Imagine if this 
community could become part of an AppExchange. 

Still - to your point, Remedy will survive. �In fact, Remedy will survive no 
matter what happens, but I just harken back to those days when it was 
thriving... as a separate BU under Dick Stark at BMC (30+% Revenue Growth at 
that time)... or when Remedy was its own company. 

The product is still the best. �ServiceNow's biggest win was in hiring all of 
the ex-Remedy sales people and solution consultants (impact of a specialty 
sales force). �That's how they're winning... not to mention their vastly 
superior support team. �Listen to a support call with a ServiceNow customer vs. 
BMC Support. �I've heard them both multiple times since we have customers on 
both product lines. �BMC = Send me your logs, send me your logs, send me your 
logs. �Vs. SNOW = A 2nd or 3rd tier quality person on the front-line. 

However, given enough time and money, ServiceNow could make their product 
better. �On the flip side, they're a public company now, so watch how their 
model changes from what I just described. �In fact, customers tell me that they 
already charge for approvers and end users now... the cycle continues. 




For our latest product demonstrations, please visit � 
http://www.youtube.com/user/northcraftanalytics 

Lee Cullom | Northcraft Analytics 
IT Metrics Specialist | Business Intelligence for ITSM 
Direct - 678-438-7244 | lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
Main - (678) 664-ITSM 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:42 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion? �I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?) 
�I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity 

Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread pritch
The board said no, then Elliot came in, got some folks on the board and all of 
a sudden the board came around.  So the question becomes what's in it for the 
board that wasn't there before?  More options to exercise?  Or did they just 
'See the light'?

I really don't think there is much interest so Bain is probably the way to go.  
Doubt it will make any real difference in our lifetime - except that we can now 
become experts in helping companies migrate from Remedy to other platforms 
which will keep us working for a VERY long time.  Heck, if we could get through 
upgrades, we can surely get through a migration.

I'm in the process of helping a company get off Remedy and go to Service Now.  
Probably going to be a lot more of that in the future.
 
- Original Message -
From: arslist arsl...@danielbloom.ca
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:28:32 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Lawyers trolling. If they think it is worth more, the law office of Brodsky  
Smith LLC should just put in an offer. Oh right, they had their chance and 
didn't. Or perhaps BMC should have opened itself up to higher bids? Oh right, 
they did. So what is their point again? That BMC Software should turn down an 
offer with a slight premium in favour of some potential future gain? So the BMC 
Board of Directors should gamble but they are based in Houston not Las Vegas.

I guess my question is: The Board has recommended accepting the offer, do the 
shareholders have to go along with it, or does the BMC Board actually have the 
authority and have authorized the sale to go private and the decision is final? 
What are the rules?

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: May 9, 2013 2:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Slow down on the acquisition:

Law office of Brodsky  Smith, LLC announces that it is investigating potential 
claims against the Board of Directors of BMC Software, Inc. (�BMC� or the 
�Company�) (BMC) relating to the proposed acquisition by Bain Capital, Golden 
Gate Capital, GIC Special Investments and Insight Venture Partners (�Investor 
Group�).

Here's the link:  
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/shareholder-alert-law-office-brodsky-182900157.html

- Original Message -
From: Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

** 
Great point! �I think BMC just got (or will later this year) the upper hand 
vs.SNOW. � BMC *can* now be more flexible while SNOW is now slave to the money. 



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Lee Cullom  lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
 wrote: 


Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure. �However, I 
would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition because 
neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales force. �Pricing 
would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap would be cloudy and 
buried under products with much larger markets. �ITSM is only a $1.5 billion 
dollar market, so RD dollars would go to the larger markets like CRM ($15 
Billion). �Also, there would be no hope of Remedy becoming a PaaS as it should. 
�With some architectural changes, Remedy could be the most powerful PaaS on the 
planet, so I see BMC as the last hope of that happening. �Imagine if this 
community could become part of an AppExchange. 

Still - to your point, Remedy will survive. �In fact, Remedy will survive no 
matter what happens, but I just harken back to those days when it was 
thriving... as a separate BU under Dick Stark at BMC (30+% Revenue Growth at 
that time)... or when Remedy was its own company. 

The product is still the best. �ServiceNow's biggest win was in hiring all of 
the ex-Remedy sales people and solution consultants (impact of a specialty 
sales force). �That's how they're winning... not to mention their vastly 
superior support team. �Listen to a support call with a ServiceNow customer vs. 
BMC Support. �I've heard them both multiple times since we have customers on 
both product lines. �BMC = Send me your logs, send me your logs, send me your 
logs. �Vs. SNOW = A 2nd or 3rd tier quality person on the front-line. 

However, given enough time and money, ServiceNow could make their product 
better. �On the flip side, they're a public company now, so watch how their 
model changes from what I just described. �In fact, customers tell me that they 
already charge for approvers and end users now... the cycle continues. 




For our latest product demonstrations, please visit � 
http://www.youtube.com/user/northcraftanalytics 

Lee Cullom | Northcraft Analytics 
IT Metrics Specialist | Business Intelligence for ITSM 
Direct - 678-438-7244 | lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
Main - (678) 664-ITSM 

http://www.northcraftanalytics.com 


THE CONTENTS 

Re: Data Import Suggestions

2013-05-09 Thread Dixit, Amol
BMC Migrator can be used to migrate the data.
Just identify all the required forms and migrate the data for them

From: Rüdiger Tams [mailto:ruedi...@tams.de]
Sent: 09 May 2013 03:53
Subject: AW: Re: Data Import Suggestions

**
Atrium Integration Engine in 7.6.04 is the recommended way to Import Data into 
CMDB classes.
Is the Source Data in flat file Format or in DB tables AIE is usable but has 
some minor restrictions.
Regards
Rüdiger



From: Jim Coryat (jcoryat) jcor...@micron.commailto:jcor...@micron.com;
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG;
Subject: Re: Data Import Suggestions
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2013 9:39:58 PM

Agreed, but not everyone has an understanding of how to utilize an API level 
interface.  For those, the Remedy Data Import Tool suffices.

Jim Coryat
x34655

From: Alan Truelove [mailto:truelove.a...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Data Import Suggestions

**
Use  Remedy Java API -- I have done this precise task (Inputting large  batch 
CI -- Access db, EXCEL, csv files, etc etc into Asset forms) several times over 
the past few years, it is much faster and less troublesome than the standard 
Remedy tool(s).
571 242 0153.  Best wishes.



From: Abdullah Baytops abayt...@onefederalsolution.comjavascript:return
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGjavascript:return
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Data Import Suggestions

**
I wanted to know what suggestions anyone would have on the easiest way to 
import information into the (Asset Module ) specifically the AST: Equipment 
form of ITSM 7.6.04?

V/R
Abdul Baytops


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Moving from Remedy to Service Now

2013-05-09 Thread arslist
So, Pritch:

Since you are doing that for a client right now, what are the reasons for the 
move, and it sounds like you think it is actually a good move? If so why? 
I think it behooves us all to know why snow and what it is all about.

Daniel
In the spirit of: Keep your friends close, and  your enemies closer. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: May 9, 2013 4:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

The board said no, then Elliot came in, got some folks on the board and all of 
a sudden the board came around.  So the question becomes what's in it for the 
board that wasn't there before?  More options to exercise?  Or did they just 
'See the light'?

I really don't think there is much interest so Bain is probably the way to go.  
Doubt it will make any real difference in our lifetime - except that we can now 
become experts in helping companies migrate from Remedy to other platforms 
which will keep us working for a VERY long time.  Heck, if we could get through 
upgrades, we can surely get through a migration.

I'm in the process of helping a company get off Remedy and go to Service Now.  
Probably going to be a lot more of that in the future.
 
- Original Message -
From: arslist arsl...@danielbloom.ca
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:28:32 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Lawyers trolling. If they think it is worth more, the law office of Brodsky  
Smith LLC should just put in an offer. Oh right, they had their chance and 
didn't. Or perhaps BMC should have opened itself up to higher bids? Oh right, 
they did. So what is their point again? That BMC Software should turn down an 
offer with a slight premium in favour of some potential future gain? So the BMC 
Board of Directors should gamble but they are based in Houston not Las Vegas.

I guess my question is: The Board has recommended accepting the offer, do the 
shareholders have to go along with it, or does the BMC Board actually have the 
authority and have authorized the sale to go private and the decision is final? 
What are the rules?

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: May 9, 2013 2:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Slow down on the acquisition:

Law office of Brodsky  Smith, LLC announces that it is investigating potential 
claims against the Board of Directors of BMC Software, Inc. (?BMC? or the 
?Company?) (BMC) relating to the proposed acquisition by Bain Capital, Golden 
Gate Capital, GIC Special Investments and Insight Venture Partners (?Investor 
Group?).

Here's the link:  
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/shareholder-alert-law-office-brodsky-182900157.html

- Original Message -
From: Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

** 
Great point! ?I think BMC just got (or will later this year) the upper hand 
vs.SNOW. ? BMC *can* now be more flexible while SNOW is now slave to the money. 



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Lee Cullom  lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
 wrote: 


Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure. ?However, I 
would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition because 
neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales force. ?Pricing 
would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap would be cloudy and 
buried under products with much larger markets. ?ITSM is only a $1.5 billion 
dollar market, so RD dollars would go to the larger markets like CRM ($15 
Billion). ?Also, there would be no hope of Remedy becoming a PaaS as it should. 
?With some architectural changes, Remedy could be the most powerful PaaS on the 
planet, so I see BMC as the last hope of that happening. ?Imagine if this 
community could become part of an AppExchange. 

Still - to your point, Remedy will survive. ?In fact, Remedy will survive no 
matter what happens, but I just harken back to those days when it was 
thriving... as a separate BU under Dick Stark at BMC (30+% Revenue Growth at 
that time)... or when Remedy was its own company. 

The product is still the best. ?ServiceNow's biggest win was in hiring all of 
the ex-Remedy sales people and solution consultants (impact of a specialty 
sales force). ?That's how they're winning... not to mention their vastly 
superior support team. ?Listen to a support call with a ServiceNow customer vs. 
BMC Support. ?I've heard them both multiple times since we have customers on 
both product lines. ?BMC = Send me your logs, send me your logs, send me your 
logs. ?Vs. SNOW = A 2nd or 3rd tier quality person on the front-line. 

However, given enough time and money, ServiceNow could make their product 
better. ?On the flip 

Re: BMC Communities Discussion regarding maintaining our environment details on Support Central

2013-05-09 Thread Rick Westbrock
Is it a normal process for Support to request the customer to use the log
tool to fetch all logs? During the last several cases that I have opened
with Support in the last nine months the Support techs have never once
mentioned such a tool to me. (I thought it would be better to ask this here
rather than muck up the discussion over at Communities.

 

I too have been a victim of being asked for logs more than once and then
figuring it out on my own or via the List before Support ever got back to me
with anything.

 

-Rick

 

 

___

Rick Westbrock

QMX Support Services

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 23:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: BMC Communities Discussion regarding maintaining our environment
details on Support Central

 

** 

Hi all,

 

I thought I would share the link to this discussion here.  Over the years
many of us have aired our Support rants on the list; sometimes about the the
specific question being asked.  Login and leave your comments regarding the
topic since you have Support's virtual ear.

 

(not quite a) Poll - environment log for Customer Support
https://communities.bmc.com/message/320641 

 

Jason

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Re: BMC Communities Discussion regarding maintaining our environment details on Support Central

2013-05-09 Thread Longwing, Lj
I've never been asked to use it


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rick Westbrock rwestbr...@qmxs.com wrote:

 **

 Is it a normal process for Support to request the customer to use the “log
 tool” to fetch all logs? During the last several cases that I have opened
 with Support in the last nine months the Support techs have never once
 mentioned such a tool to me. (I thought it would be better to ask this here
 rather than muck up the discussion over at Communities.

 ** **

 I too have been a victim of being asked for logs more than once and then
 figuring it out on my own or via the List before Support ever got back to
 me with anything.

 ** **

 -Rick

 ** **

 ** **

 ___

 Rick Westbrock

 QMX Support Services

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 08, 2013 23:43 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* BMC Communities Discussion regarding maintaining our
 environment details on Support Central

 ** **

 ** 

 Hi all,

 ** **

 I thought I would share the link to this discussion here.  Over the years
 many of us have aired our Support rants on the list; sometimes about the
 the specific question being asked.  Login and leave your comments regarding
 the topic since you have Support's virtual ear.

 ** **

 (not quite a) Poll - environment log for Customer 
 Supporthttps://communities.bmc.com/message/320641
 

 ** **

 Jason

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Re: Moving from Remedy to Service Now

2013-05-09 Thread pritch
Without getting into the details - it was pretty much a combination of a 
financial decision and some business decisions that indirectly affected what 
system they were using.  I can get into a bit more off-line, but it's not 
something I'm willing to put out on this forum.  Admittedly, I wasn't on the 
inside of the decision making, but I am familiar with their history enough to 
know that some of the circumstances have nothing to do with Remedy.

And in their case, I do understand and think it's a good decision.  Contrary to 
popular belief, not every system is good for everyone.  While I do believe in 
and enjoy working with the Remedy application, it's way too much overkill for 
some folks.  These tools are a means to run their business and when they have 
to spend much time and effort (and $) in supporting a tool that is suppose to 
make it easier to run their business then the ROI isn't there.  These type of 
tools do need to be simple, inexpensive and low-maintenance.

- Original Message -
From: arslist arsl...@danielbloom.ca
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:41:32 PM
Subject: Moving from Remedy to Service Now

So, Pritch:

Since you are doing that for a client right now, what are the reasons for the 
move, and it sounds like you think it is actually a good move? If so why? 
I think it behooves us all to know why snow and what it is all about.

Daniel
In the spirit of: Keep your friends close, and  your enemies closer. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: May 9, 2013 4:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

The board said no, then Elliot came in, got some folks on the board and all of 
a sudden the board came around.  So the question becomes what's in it for the 
board that wasn't there before?  More options to exercise?  Or did they just 
'See the light'?

I really don't think there is much interest so Bain is probably the way to go.  
Doubt it will make any real difference in our lifetime - except that we can now 
become experts in helping companies migrate from Remedy to other platforms 
which will keep us working for a VERY long time.  Heck, if we could get through 
upgrades, we can surely get through a migration.

I'm in the process of helping a company get off Remedy and go to Service Now.  
Probably going to be a lot more of that in the future.
 
- Original Message -
From: arslist arsl...@danielbloom.ca
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:28:32 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Lawyers trolling. If they think it is worth more, the law office of Brodsky  
Smith LLC should just put in an offer. Oh right, they had their chance and 
didn't. Or perhaps BMC should have opened itself up to higher bids? Oh right, 
they did. So what is their point again? That BMC Software should turn down an 
offer with a slight premium in favour of some potential future gain? So the BMC 
Board of Directors should gamble but they are based in Houston not Las Vegas.

I guess my question is: The Board has recommended accepting the offer, do the 
shareholders have to go along with it, or does the BMC Board actually have the 
authority and have authorized the sale to go private and the decision is final? 
What are the rules?

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: May 9, 2013 2:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Slow down on the acquisition:

Law office of Brodsky  Smith, LLC announces that it is investigating potential 
claims against the Board of Directors of BMC Software, Inc. (?BMC? or the 
?Company?) (BMC) relating to the proposed acquisition by Bain Capital, Golden 
Gate Capital, GIC Special Investments and Insight Venture Partners (?Investor 
Group?).

Here's the link:  
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/shareholder-alert-law-office-brodsky-182900157.html

- Original Message -
From: Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

** 
Great point! ?I think BMC just got (or will later this year) the upper hand 
vs.SNOW. ? BMC *can* now be more flexible while SNOW is now slave to the money. 



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Lee Cullom  lee.cul...@northcraftanalytics.com 
 wrote: 


Oh, I totally agree that the future of Remedy would be secure. ?However, I 
would be pessimistic about revenue growth and new customer acquisition because 
neither of them (Oracle or SAP) have a specialized ITSM sales force. ?Pricing 
would go up, sales team quality down, and product roadmap would be cloudy and 
buried under products with much larger markets. ?ITSM is only a $1.5 billion 
dollar market, so RD dollars would go to the larger markets like CRM ($15 
Billion). ?Also, there would be no hope 

Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Howard Richter
Shawn,

Since I have worked with Remedy since 1996, I can say that its has been a 
downward spiral since Peregrine acquired Remedy. The initial Remedy support was 
great, then when Peregrine fired most of the Remedy team it was for (please 
fill in the blank).

When BMC picked up Remedy, things did get better (not as good as it was but 
better). However, the spiral started again. The first few years of BMC it did 
get better, then the move to off shoring support (with not enough training of 
the staff) and cost cutting. Down it went. 

Now a days I am not sure what is going on. I wonder if the head of support, has 
ever supported any customer or even answered a support call.

When I know more than the level 2s or 3s, something is wrong. I am unsure why 
they cut so many old timers, but my guess it’s a money issue. 

As far as the support provided by other companies, they all have some good 
people and not so good people. However, I expect that the level 2s and higher 
to know more about the system they support and have the ability to help with 
the odd issues. 

Sorry for the rant, but I expect good support when I pay good money for it. And 
lately you cannot use Good support and BMC in the same sentence.  Which is 
very sad for all of us in the world of Remedy.

Hbr

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:15 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

We have SAP (and Oracle eBusiness) within my organization, and I haven't heard 
any unusual complaints.  Is it worse than BMC's, Send us the same log files 
you already sent us so we can ask you for new log files of the same thing next 
week, then we'll close the ticket out for being too old customer service?  I 
haven't interacted with BMC Support for a while so maybe I'm being unfair, but 
it often seemed like they just wanted to waste your time and hope you solved 
the problem on your own.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:04 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt with 
support from SAP?  

Tim


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved)
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are 
coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management technology 
to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the Tivoli product line.
Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the financials 
yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the Enterprise, that's 
Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require investment and innovation 
(this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)... and an AppExchange like 
community (this group) to develop new offerings that are needed to compete with 
ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center, Facilities Management, etc...).  This will 
require some 

Support issues (was huh? financial news for bmc ?)

2013-05-09 Thread Rick Westbrock
I feel your pain Howard and it's not just BMC. I was in network engineering for 
many years and over time our WAN vendor moved from a support center in San 
Ramon, CA to a call center in the Philippines and we had to immediately ask for 
a Tier 2 if not Tier 3 tech on the initial call because we all knew far more 
than the person answering the phone which wasn't the case previously.

I have seen the same struggles with BMC's support lately, I've gone to the list 
before opening a support ticket anymore because I can get an answer (with lots 
of real world experience behind it) more quickly in most cases. I long for the 
days when the person taking my support call for Remedy could actually help me 
work on the problem instead of just being a ticket taker and asking for logs. 
Sadly most tech support seems to be going that direction for now, I am hoping 
eventually customers will start pushing back more and we will see support 
levels improve.

-Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 15:01 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Shawn,

Since I have worked with Remedy since 1996, I can say that its has been a 
downward spiral since Peregrine acquired Remedy. The initial Remedy support was 
great, then when Peregrine fired most of the Remedy team it was for (please 
fill in the blank).

When BMC picked up Remedy, things did get better (not as good as it was but 
better). However, the spiral started again. The first few years of BMC it did 
get better, then the move to off shoring support (with not enough training of 
the staff) and cost cutting. Down it went. 

Now a days I am not sure what is going on. I wonder if the head of support, has 
ever supported any customer or even answered a support call.

When I know more than the level 2s or 3s, something is wrong. I am unsure why 
they cut so many old timers, but my guess it’s a money issue. 

As far as the support provided by other companies, they all have some good 
people and not so good people. However, I expect that the level 2s and higher 
to know more about the system they support and have the ability to help with 
the odd issues. 

Sorry for the rant, but I expect good support when I pay good money for it. And 
lately you cannot use Good support and BMC in the same sentence.  Which is 
very sad for all of us in the world of Remedy.

Hbr

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:15 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

We have SAP (and Oracle eBusiness) within my organization, and I haven't heard 
any unusual complaints.  Is it worse than BMC's, Send us the same log files 
you already sent us so we can ask you for new log files of the same thing next 
week, then we'll close the ticket out for being too old customer service?  I 
haven't interacted with BMC Support for a while so maybe I'm being unfair, but 
it often seemed like they just wanted to waste your time and hope you solved 
the problem on your own.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:04 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt with 
support from SAP?  

Tim


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate 

Re: BMC Communities Discussion regarding maintaining our environment details on Support Central

2013-05-09 Thread Jason Miller
I have been asked a few times.  I think one time I may have surprised them
by using it before they asked though.

Jason


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Longwing, Lj llongw...@usgs.gov wrote:

 **
 I've never been asked to use it


 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rick Westbrock rwestbr...@qmxs.comwrote:

 **

 Is it a normal process for Support to request the customer to use the
 “log tool” to fetch all logs? During the last several cases that I have
 opened with Support in the last nine months the Support techs have never
 once mentioned such a tool to me. (I thought it would be better to ask this
 here rather than muck up the discussion over at Communities.

 ** **

 I too have been a victim of being asked for logs more than once and then
 figuring it out on my own or via the List before Support ever got back to
 me with anything.

 ** **

 -Rick

 ** **

 ** **

 ___

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 QMX Support Services

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 08, 2013 23:43 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* BMC Communities Discussion regarding maintaining our
 environment details on Support Central

 ** **

 ** 

 Hi all,

 ** **

 I thought I would share the link to this discussion here.  Over the years
 many of us have aired our Support rants on the list; sometimes about the
 the specific question being asked.  Login and leave your comments regarding
 the topic since you have Support's virtual ear.

 ** **

 (not quite a) Poll - environment log for Customer 
 Supporthttps://communities.bmc.com/message/320641
 

 ** **

 Jason

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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Longwing, Lj
Howard,
I'm typically on the same side of the fence as you.  For more years than I
care to count I know more about Remedy than anyone I get on the other end
of the email, and I have come to not even contact them for things that
aren't 'core' related or to file defects, but I have been in direct contact
with some upper level support people as of late.  They are actively trying
to fix the problems that we have, and seem to truly care.  Two days ago I
logged a ticket regarding 8.1 overlays in an upgrade scenario, and had a
response in less than 3 hours suggesting a WebEx...today I got around to
doing that WebEx and he had his team lead on the phone with us.  It took 2
hours to get fixed, but got fixed in a single call and required some
advanced DB level workso while I still don't go to them unless I can't
solve it (which isn't often honestly with personal experience, ARSList, and
BMC Communities at hand)the last few times I have contacted them, the
experience seems better than it was for many years.


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shawn,

 Since I have worked with Remedy since 1996, I can say that its has been a
 downward spiral since Peregrine acquired Remedy. The initial Remedy support
 was great, then when Peregrine fired most of the Remedy team it was for
 (please fill in the blank).

 When BMC picked up Remedy, things did get better (not as good as it was
 but better). However, the spiral started again. The first few years of BMC
 it did get better, then the move to off shoring support (with not enough
 training of the staff) and cost cutting. Down it went.

 Now a days I am not sure what is going on. I wonder if the head of
 support, has ever supported any customer or even answered a support call.

 When I know more than the level 2s or 3s, something is wrong. I am unsure
 why they cut so many old timers, but my guess it’s a money issue.

 As far as the support provided by other companies, they all have some good
 people and not so good people. However, I expect that the level 2s and
 higher to know more about the system they support and have the ability to
 help with the odd issues.

 Sorry for the rant, but I expect good support when I pay good money for
 it. And lately you cannot use Good support and BMC in the same
 sentence.  Which is very sad for all of us in the world of Remedy.

 Hbr

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:15 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 We have SAP (and Oracle eBusiness) within my organization, and I haven't
 heard any unusual complaints.  Is it worse than BMC's, Send us the same
 log files you already sent us so we can ask you for new log files of the
 same thing next week, then we'll close the ticket out for being too old
 customer service?  I haven't interacted with BMC Support for a while so
 maybe I'm being unfair, but it often seemed like they just wanted to waste
 your time and hope you solved the problem on your own.

 Thanks,

 Shawn Pierson
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:04 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt
 with support from SAP?

 Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative
 thing in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be
 swallowed up inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken
 Oracle to combine the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products
 directly competing?)  I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes
 up, or some other unknown odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be
 an opportunity for Remedy to be implemented in shops that may not have a
 good ITSM solution but already have installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever
 hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a pessimistic scenario it doesn't
 seem too bad to me.

 Thanks,

 Shawn Pierson
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:

 - Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units
 - Mainframe, Service 

Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Howard Richter
That is great to hear. Maybe someone has started to understand that a
company needs to support what they sell.

 

Take care,

hbr

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, Lj
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 

** 

Howard,

I'm typically on the same side of the fence as you.  For more years than I
care to count I know more about Remedy than anyone I get on the other end of
the email, and I have come to not even contact them for things that aren't
'core' related or to file defects, but I have been in direct contact with
some upper level support people as of late.  They are actively trying to fix
the problems that we have, and seem to truly care.  Two days ago I logged a
ticket regarding 8.1 overlays in an upgrade scenario, and had a response in
less than 3 hours suggesting a WebEx...today I got around to doing that
WebEx and he had his team lead on the phone with us.  It took 2 hours to get
fixed, but got fixed in a single call and required some advanced DB level
workso while I still don't go to them unless I can't solve it (which
isn't often honestly with personal experience, ARSList, and BMC Communities
at hand)the last few times I have contacted them, the experience seems
better than it was for many years.

 

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

Shawn,

Since I have worked with Remedy since 1996, I can say that its has been a
downward spiral since Peregrine acquired Remedy. The initial Remedy support
was great, then when Peregrine fired most of the Remedy team it was for
(please fill in the blank).

When BMC picked up Remedy, things did get better (not as good as it was but
better). However, the spiral started again. The first few years of BMC it
did get better, then the move to off shoring support (with not enough
training of the staff) and cost cutting. Down it went.

Now a days I am not sure what is going on. I wonder if the head of support,
has ever supported any customer or even answered a support call.

When I know more than the level 2s or 3s, something is wrong. I am unsure
why they cut so many old timers, but my guess it's a money issue.

As far as the support provided by other companies, they all have some good
people and not so good people. However, I expect that the level 2s and
higher to know more about the system they support and have the ability to
help with the odd issues.

Sorry for the rant, but I expect good support when I pay good money for it.
And lately you cannot use Good support and BMC in the same sentence.
Which is very sad for all of us in the world of Remedy.

Hbr


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn

Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:15 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

We have SAP (and Oracle eBusiness) within my organization, and I haven't
heard any unusual complaints.  Is it worse than BMC's, Send us the same log
files you already sent us so we can ask you for new log files of the same
thing next week, then we'll close the ticket out for being too old customer
service?  I haven't interacted with BMC Support for a while so maybe I'm
being unfair, but it often seemed like they just wanted to waste your time
and hope you solved the problem on your own.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:04 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt
with support from SAP?

Tim


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative
thing in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be
swallowed up inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken
Oracle to combine the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products
directly competing?)  I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes
up, or some other unknown odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an
opportunity for Remedy to be implemented in shops that may not have a good
ITSM solution but already have installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever
hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a pessimistic scenario it doesn't
seem too bad to me.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom

How to remove workflow from a 7.6.4 system?

2013-05-09 Thread Howard Richter
All,

 

We have a 7.6.4 system that has an integration that we need to remove
(filters/webservices). We can modify the items in question by creating
overlays, however, when we try and remove the items we can only remove the
overlays.

 

Since my coding skills are as old as I, (give me the old admin tool) I need
to ask the younger members of the last how to remove this workflow. Its
disable, I just want to remove what is no longer in use.

 

As always thanks,

 

Hbr 


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Re: How to remove workflow from a 7.6.4 system?

2013-05-09 Thread Longwing, Lj
Howard,
You cannot remove base objects.  So, if the objects in question are truly
Remedy OOTB workflow, then the best you are going to be able to do is
create an overlay and change it to disabled.

If however the code in question is in fact custom code that should be
removed...you can switch your Dev Studio to 'Base Development' Mode (under
the file menu)...and you can remove them from there...but if they are BMC
OOTB code...don't do this :)

FYI, any code that you have in your system that isn't provided by Remedy
should be converted to Custom objects, that can be modified just like
before 7.6.04 introduced the Overlay concept...and can be deleted without
any hassle.


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 All,

 ** **

 We have a 7.6.4 system that has an integration that we need to remove
 (filters/webservices). We can modify the items in question by creating
 overlays, however, when we try and remove the items we can only remove the
 overlays.

 ** **

 Since my coding skills are as old as I, (give me the old admin tool) I
 need to ask the younger members of the last how to remove this workflow.
 Its disable, I just want to remove what is no longer in use.

 ** **

 As always thanks,

 ** **

 Hbr 
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Re: HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect

2013-05-09 Thread Joe D'Souza
Configure the IIS server to accept only https requests for the arsys
application.

Then write a java script to do a window location replace when an http
request is sent, and use this script to replace the 403 forbidden error.

Not clean but it works.

John Baker if I remember right suggested a cleaner method to this a few
months ago - but I do not recall what his method was.

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Nowak, James
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect

I have a new 7.6.04 environment that we are standing up.  I have configured
SSL on my web servers and can login, etc. However I am now trying to setup
HTTP--HTTPS redirection w/in IIS and am having some issues.

I have tried several different methods and none have worked successfully.

Anyone else have success doing this?  Any input/feedback/config info would
be greatly appreciated.

My Web Servers are:  Windows 2008 R2 w/ IIS 7.5 and Tomcat 6


Jim Nowak
IT Infrastructure

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Re: HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect

2013-05-09 Thread Jlbess
After you force SSL, you can create a custom error response for 403.4 on te 
login.jsp page in IIS manager. For message type click URL and enter your https 
URL. There are full step by step on the microsoft support site.



Jason

On May 9, 2013, at 8:07 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 Configure the IIS server to accept only https requests for the arsys
 application.
 
 Then write a java script to do a window location replace when an http
 request is sent, and use this script to replace the 403 forbidden error.
 
 Not clean but it works.
 
 John Baker if I remember right suggested a cleaner method to this a few
 months ago - but I do not recall what his method was.
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Nowak, James
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:47 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect
 
 I have a new 7.6.04 environment that we are standing up.  I have configured
 SSL on my web servers and can login, etc. However I am now trying to setup
 HTTP--HTTPS redirection w/in IIS and am having some issues.
 
 I have tried several different methods and none have worked successfully.
 
 Anyone else have success doing this?  Any input/feedback/config info would
 be greatly appreciated.
 
 My Web Servers are:  Windows 2008 R2 w/ IIS 7.5 and Tomcat 6
 
 
 Jim Nowak
 IT Infrastructure
 
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Re: HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect

2013-05-09 Thread Joe D'Souza
That is exactly what I was proposing - to handle the 403 error, but by way
of a javascript which does a replace of the window location from http to
https.

I do not recall specifics, but I believe there is a better and cleaner way
to do this, but for all practical purposes, this should work.

Cheers

Joe


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jlbess
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:25 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect

After you force SSL, you can create a custom error response for 403.4 on te
login.jsp page in IIS manager. For message type click URL and enter your
https URL. There are full step by step on the microsoft support site.



Jason

On May 9, 2013, at 8:07 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 Configure the IIS server to accept only https requests for the arsys
 application.
 
 Then write a java script to do a window location replace when an http
 request is sent, and use this script to replace the 403 forbidden error.
 
 Not clean but it works.
 
 John Baker if I remember right suggested a cleaner method to this a few
 months ago - but I do not recall what his method was.
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Nowak, James
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:47 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: HTTP -- HTTPS Redirect
 
 I have a new 7.6.04 environment that we are standing up.  I have
configured
 SSL on my web servers and can login, etc. However I am now trying to setup
 HTTP--HTTPS redirection w/in IIS and am having some issues.
 
 I have tried several different methods and none have worked successfully.
 
 Anyone else have success doing this?  Any input/feedback/config info would
 be greatly appreciated.
 
 My Web Servers are:  Windows 2008 R2 w/ IIS 7.5 and Tomcat 6
 
 
 Jim Nowak
 IT Infrastructure
 
 TEL: 630.438.7747 | jamesno...@officemax.com
 800 W. Bryn Mawr, Itasca IL 60143 | http://www.officemax.com
 
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Re: How to remove workflow from a 7.6.4 system?

2013-05-09 Thread Howard Richter
Thanks and its not OOB code, just an old integration from AlarmPoint.

Thanks again

Hbr

Sent from my iPhone 5

On May 9, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Longwing, Lj llongw...@usgs.gov wrote:

 **
 Howard,
 You cannot remove base objects.  So, if the objects in question are truly 
 Remedy OOTB workflow, then the best you are going to be able to do is create 
 an overlay and change it to disabled.
 
 If however the code in question is in fact custom code that should be 
 removed...you can switch your Dev Studio to 'Base Development' Mode (under 
 the file menu)...and you can remove them from there...but if they are BMC 
 OOTB code...don't do this :)
 
 FYI, any code that you have in your system that isn't provided by Remedy 
 should be converted to Custom objects, that can be modified just like before 
 7.6.04 introduced the Overlay concept...and can be deleted without any hassle.
 
 
 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:
 **
 All,
 
  
 
 We have a 7.6.4 system that has an integration that we need to remove 
 (filters/webservices). We can modify the items in question by creating 
 overlays, however, when we try and remove the items we can only remove the 
 overlays.
 
  
 
 Since my coding skills are as old as I, (give me the old admin tool) I need 
 to ask the younger members of the last how to remove this workflow. Its 
 disable, I just want to remove what is no longer in use.
 
  
 
 As always thanks,
 
  
 
 Hbr
 
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Re: How to remove workflow from a 7.6.4 system?

2013-05-09 Thread Joe D'Souza
Yes that can be removed from the base development mode as LJ explained. Just
make sure you switch back to best practices mode though after you do this as
you don't want to alter an object by error when in base development.

 

Joe

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to remove workflow from a 7.6.4 system?

 

Thanks and its not OOB code, just an old integration from AlarmPoint.

 

Thanks again

 

Hbr

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On May 9, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Longwing, Lj llongw...@usgs.gov wrote:

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Howard,

You cannot remove base objects.  So, if the objects in question are truly
Remedy OOTB workflow, then the best you are going to be able to do is create
an overlay and change it to disabled.

 

If however the code in question is in fact custom code that should be
removed...you can switch your Dev Studio to 'Base Development' Mode (under
the file menu)...and you can remove them from there...but if they are BMC
OOTB code...don't do this :)

 

FYI, any code that you have in your system that isn't provided by Remedy
should be converted to Custom objects, that can be modified just like before
7.6.04 introduced the Overlay concept...and can be deleted without any
hassle.

 

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

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All,

 

We have a 7.6.4 system that has an integration that we need to remove
(filters/webservices). We can modify the items in question by creating
overlays, however, when we try and remove the items we can only remove the
overlays.

 

Since my coding skills are as old as I, (give me the old admin tool) I need
to ask the younger members of the last how to remove this workflow. Its
disable, I just want to remove what is no longer in use.

 

As always thanks,

 

Hbr 

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Re: How to remove workflow from a 7.6.4 system?

2013-05-09 Thread Howard Richter
Joe

Thanks

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On May 9, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

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 Yes that can be removed from the base development mode as LJ explained. Just 
 make sure you switch back to best practices mode though after you do this as 
 you don’t want to alter an object by error when in base development.
  
 Joe
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:35 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: How to remove workflow from a 7.6.4 system?
  
 Thanks and its not OOB code, just an old integration from AlarmPoint.
  
 Thanks again
  
 Hbr
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Longwing, Lj llongw...@usgs.gov wrote:
 
 **
 Howard,
 You cannot remove base objects.  So, if the objects in question are truly 
 Remedy OOTB workflow, then the best you are going to be able to do is create 
 an overlay and change it to disabled.
  
 If however the code in question is in fact custom code that should be 
 removed...you can switch your Dev Studio to 'Base Development' Mode (under 
 the file menu)...and you can remove them from there...but if they are BMC 
 OOTB code...don't do this :)
  
 FYI, any code that you have in your system that isn't provided by Remedy 
 should be converted to Custom objects, that can be modified just like before 
 7.6.04 introduced the Overlay concept...and can be deleted without any 
 hassle.
  
 
 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:
 **
 All,
  
 We have a 7.6.4 system that has an integration that we need to remove 
 (filters/webservices). We can modify the items in question by creating 
 overlays, however, when we try and remove the items we can only remove the 
 overlays.
  
 Since my coding skills are as old as I, (give me the old admin tool) I need 
 to ask the younger members of the last how to remove this workflow. Its 
 disable, I just want to remove what is no longer in use.
  
 As always thanks,
  
 Hbr
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Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

2013-05-09 Thread Raman Arora
I second Lj. BMC support has suddenly turned around (may be since last 2-3
weeks).
Things are suddenly getting better. We are hearing response in a matter of
few hours and instead of a mail for log, it is the solution that is
provided or a webex is scheduled (provided you give the info required).
Request for Information cases are also getting thorough attention. We have
teams working on quite a number of BMC tools and we're witnessing this
phenomenon throughout!.

-Raman


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

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 That is great to hear. Maybe someone has started to understand that a
 company needs to support what they sell.

 ** **

 Take care,

 hbr

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Longwing, Lj
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:19 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 ** **

 ** 

 Howard,

 I'm typically on the same side of the fence as you.  For more years than I
 care to count I know more about Remedy than anyone I get on the other end
 of the email, and I have come to not even contact them for things that
 aren't 'core' related or to file defects, but I have been in direct contact
 with some upper level support people as of late.  They are actively trying
 to fix the problems that we have, and seem to truly care.  Two days ago I
 logged a ticket regarding 8.1 overlays in an upgrade scenario, and had a
 response in less than 3 hours suggesting a WebEx...today I got around to
 doing that WebEx and he had his team lead on the phone with us.  It took 2
 hours to get fixed, but got fixed in a single call and required some
 advanced DB level workso while I still don't go to them unless I can't
 solve it (which isn't often honestly with personal experience, ARSList, and
 BMC Communities at hand)the last few times I have contacted them, the
 experience seems better than it was for many years.

 ** **

 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 Shawn,

 Since I have worked with Remedy since 1996, I can say that its has been a
 downward spiral since Peregrine acquired Remedy. The initial Remedy support
 was great, then when Peregrine fired most of the Remedy team it was for
 (please fill in the blank).

 When BMC picked up Remedy, things did get better (not as good as it was
 but better). However, the spiral started again. The first few years of BMC
 it did get better, then the move to off shoring support (with not enough
 training of the staff) and cost cutting. Down it went.

 Now a days I am not sure what is going on. I wonder if the head of
 support, has ever supported any customer or even answered a support call.

 When I know more than the level 2s or 3s, something is wrong. I am unsure
 why they cut so many old timers, but my guess it’s a money issue.

 As far as the support provided by other companies, they all have some good
 people and not so good people. However, I expect that the level 2s and
 higher to know more about the system they support and have the ability to
 help with the odd issues.

 Sorry for the rant, but I expect good support when I pay good money for
 it. And lately you cannot use Good support and BMC in the same
 sentence.  Which is very sad for all of us in the world of Remedy.

 Hbr


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn

 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:15 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 We have SAP (and Oracle eBusiness) within my organization, and I haven't
 heard any unusual complaints.  Is it worse than BMC's, Send us the same
 log files you already sent us so we can ask you for new log files of the
 same thing next week, then we'll close the ticket out for being too old
 customer service?  I haven't interacted with BMC Support for a while so
 maybe I'm being unfair, but it often seemed like they just wanted to waste
 your time and hope you solved the problem on your own.

 Thanks,

 Shawn Pierson
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:04 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt
 with support from SAP?

 Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

 I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative
 thing in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be
 swallowed up