Re: [Audacity-translation] 回覆: Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

[James Crook]

Thank you.
That's in too now, as I have to make another release candidate for other 
reasons.

--James.


On 07/04/2021 15:00, Jesse Lin wrote:

update for zh-tw for 3.0.1

Jesse

寄件者: Antonio P 
寄件日期: 2021年4月7日 上午 12:26
收件者: audacity-translation 
主旨: Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

Hi, James:

Please find attached the es.po (Spanish Traslation) updated.

Regards,

Antonio Paniagua



El mié, 31 mar 2021 a las 14:58, James Crook 
(mailto:james.k.cr...@gmail.com>>) escribió:
Updated .po and .pot files for Audacity 3.0.1 are now available.

https://github.com/audacity/audacity/tree/master/locale

I'm planning to code freeze on 5th April, so I would like updated translations 
by then.  If you've questions about the new strings, there aren't that many of 
them, please ask here.

It is possible I will need to do more than one release candidate, in which case 
I'll include translations available later too, but 5th April is for being sure 
of being in the 3.0.1.



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Re: [Audacity-translation] Translation of 3.0.1 is now closed.

[James Crook]

Thank you for your work on translating.

If sometime you send a list of phrases that are too technical and/or too
out of their context, I can add comments that will then appear in the .po
file that may help.  Those comments/explanations will then help all
translators.  Thanks for alerting me to the problem.

--James.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 22:57, Seanán Ó Coistín  wrote:

> A Shéamuis, a chara,
>
> Dear James,
>
> I did a bit of the Irish translation but not enough for it to be worth
> sending to you. I will continue to work on it when I can.
>
> Part of the reason why it takes so long to translate is that sometimes it
> is impossible to understand the technical terms. Simple terms are easily
> translated.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Seanán Ó Coistín
> Ar 06/04/2021 20:03, scríobh James Crook:
>
> Thank You!
>
> Spanish, Occitan, Portuguese x2 and Japanese are now committed and will be
> in the next 3.0.1
>
> Update Spanish Translation - antpaniagua authored
> Update Occitan Translation - Quentin PAGÈS authored
> Update Portuguese (pt_BR) Translation - Cleber Tavano authored
> Update Portuguese (pt_PT) Translation - BrunoRamalhete authored
> Update Japanese Translation - Phroneris authored
>
>
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[Audacity-translation] Translation of 3.0.1 is now closed.

[James Crook]

Thank You!

Spanish, Occitan, Portuguese x2 and Japanese are now committed and will be
in the next 3.0.1

Update Spanish Translation - antpaniagua authored
Update Occitan Translation - Quentin PAGÈS authored
Update Portuguese (pt_BR) Translation - Cleber Tavano authored
Update Portuguese (pt_PT) Translation - BrunoRamalhete authored
Update Japanese Translation - Phroneris authored


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Re: [Audacity-translation] Occitan translation

[James Crook]

Welcome Quentin,

You've just missed the closing of translation for 3.0.1 (well, there are a
few more hours left), so anything you do will be for a later release.  I'm
hoping the next release after 3.0.1 will also be quite soon, a few months
after it comes out.  But hoping it will be doesn't mean it necessarily will
be.  Welcome all the same.

--James.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 18:55, Thomas De Rocker 
wrote:

> Hi Quentin
>
> A few months ago, I cleaned up the Audacity Transifex project. I noticed
> that Occitan was about 50 % completed there (see attached .po file). Maybe
> you can merge your translations with the existing ones that are attached?
>
> I also saw you requested Occitan on Transifex. Because you are the only
> translator, you'll be *maintainer* for Occitan on Transifex.
>
> If you have any questions or comments, don't hesitate to contact me!
>
> Regards
>
> Thomas (RockyTDR - Dutch translations).
>
> --
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> *Verzonden:* maandag 5 april 2021 19:18
> *Aan:* audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net <
> audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Onderwerp:* [Audacity-translation] Occitan translation
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I'm new here, trying to help with the Occitan translation.
> Here it is.
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Finish with Slovak translation

[James Crook]

Transifex is entirely optional.

In fact, I do not look at translations there.  People who prepare them
there need to send the .po files here.
(I sometimes look at GitHub, but prefer .po files here)

Discussions of translation can be coordinated here, and then details taken
off list.
Pavel Fric is long term contributor of Czech translation, so he controls it.

Perhaps you can talk with Jozef Matta about the Slovak translation, and
between you work out how to proceed?  You've not translated the sk.po file
before for us, have you?  Jozef translated it in April 2020 and since.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 21:55, Marco Oros  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I know, that It is not good to write here. I wanted to continue with
> translation of Audacity. Finally, there is also someone, from which I am
> happy. There are various mistakes in Slovak translation, which must be
> edited.
>
> But, I can't do It actually. Currently I have noticed, that most of
> Audacity is currently in Transifex and Transifex is not accessible for me.
>
> Let me explain It: I am blind user of Audacity and computer. It means,
> that I don't use mouse, only keyboard and screen reader (in this case
> NVDA). I can work with Poedit, which is accessible. I don't know, how to
> deal with this problem. There are two options, send downloaded .po
> translation to main Slovak translator, or just give up and leave It. I
> have asked about accessibility of Transifex to users of My screen
> reader, but without answer. Maybe I'll do It again, but I can't nolonger
> translate Audacity in Transifex, only by using Poedit and also I have
> heard, that translation in Github is bad. I don't know, if It is true,
> or no. Translation from Github was great choice for me, but now
> conditions are changed.
>
> I couldn't follow those new things, because of My school duties. I don't
> know, how to help with Slovak translation and I want to help with It,
> but conditions are not good for me.
>
> So, how to solve this thing? How can I translate Audacity, if most of
> things are not accessible for us?
>
> Also, there are mistakes in Czech translations too (Czech and Slovak are
> mutually inteligible languages), I have noticed It.
>
> I would like to contact also with Czech translators of Audacity too. I
> can just help with contacting of translators, but not with Transifex?
>
> Or, have You some alternatives for me?
>
> I really want to help You in My leasure time.
>
> Thank You for understanding.
>
> Best regards from Slovakia
>
> Marco Oros
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] v3.0.1 Japanese / Problem with msgctxt

[James Crook]

Thank you.  I've asked Paul to look into it, as he knows how that code
works.
And also, thank you for translating Audacity 3.0.1.

--James.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 00:53, 森の子リスのミーコの大冒険  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I updated ja.po.
> File: attached.
> Log: https://github.com/Phroneris/audacity/commits/ja?author=Phroneris
>
> Well, is "msgctxt" feature working correctly?
>
> I translated three "Interface" entries which have variant context
> information each,
> but my Audacity (v3.0.1 alpha f1ad41c) just shows untranslated "Interface"
> for them all.
> Please find the second attached file for screenshot.
> I also tried a few other languages where those three are translated, and
> then I got the same result.
>
> And, not just the "Interface"s but ALL translated strings with msgctxt
> don't affect my Audacity.
>
> This feature itself would be greatly appreciated because at the time of
> v2.3.1 I was troubled about
> that "White" color and "White" noise can't be represented by the same
> Japanese expression.
> I hope it will be applied to the GUI fine.
> I'm testing Audacity on Windows 7 for my personal reason so I'm sorry if
> it's an edge case.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Update Greek translation

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You can send it direct to me, james.k.cr...@gmail.com and I'll deal with it.
Thanks for doing an updated translation.

--James.

On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 16:33, dmtrs32 dmtrs32  wrote:

> I' m receiving the following message:
>
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>
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> available.
>
> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
>
> The reason it is being held:
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

[James Crook]

Thank you.  Corsican and German Translations committed.

--James.

On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 10:52, Joachim Huffer 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> attached is the updated version 3.0.1 German translation.
>
> Thanks,
> Joachim
>
> Am Mi., 31. März 2021 um 14:58 Uhr schrieb James Crook <
> james.k.cr...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Updated .po and .pot files for Audacity 3.0.1 are now available.
>>
>> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/tree/master/locale
>>
>> I'm planning to code freeze on 5th April, so I would like updated
>> translations by then.  If you've questions about the new strings, there
>> aren't that many of them, please ask here.
>>
>> It is possible I will need to do more than one release candidate, in
>> which case I'll include translations available later too, but 5th April is
>> for being sure of being in the 3.0.1.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

[James Crook]

Thank You!

On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 23:31, Patriccollu Gmail 
wrote:

> Hello James,
>
> Please find attached the *Corsican *translation updated to 3.0.1. *Transifex
> *has been updated as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Patriccollu.
>
> Le 31/03/2021 à 14:57, James Crook a écrit :
>
> Updated .po and .pot files for Audacity 3.0.1 are now available.
>
> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/tree/master/locale
>
> I'm planning to code freeze on 5th April, so I would like updated
> translations by then.  If you've questions about the new strings, there
> aren't that many of them, please ask here.
>
> It is possible I will need to do more than one release candidate, in which
> case I'll include translations available later too, but 5th April is for
> being sure of being in the 3.0.1.
>
>
>
> --James.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] More languages received and in.

[James Crook]

You find out by asking here.

Antonio Paniagua Navarro did an update to the Spanish translation 17th Feb
2021, so I'm hoping for an update from him for 3.0.1 in due course.

I/we/Audacity require that everyone who is preparing a translation
communicates via this list.  That helps avoid two people translating the
same file.  It also gives a route for sorting out disagreement about
details of translation (when more than one translator is involved on
the same file).

I do prefer to take translations (.po files) via this list, but will
occasionally take them from GitHub too - from translators who have
translated for us in the past.

--James.





On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:01, Vanessa Klint <
vanessa.kl...@klinttranslations.se> wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> I´m new here and I was wondering, how do I know if someone else is already
> working on the language I want to translate into? So that we don´t work on
> the same file at the same time.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Vanessa
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:38 PM James Crook 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you translators!
>> These translations now committed:
>>
>> Update Italian Translation - mlocati
>> Update Slovenian Translation - Martin Srebotnjak
>> Update Hindi Translation - bashishtha
>> Update Dutch Translation - RockyTDR
>> Update Korean Translation - hwan-ajou
>> Update Chinese Translation - Jesse Lin
>> Update Russian Translation - Nikitich
>> Update Portuguese (pt_PT) Translation - BrunoRamalhete
>> Update Polish from Transifex - Gootector
>> Turkish translation updated to 3.0.1 - serkan-maker
>> Update Finnish Translation - hisahi
>> Update French Translation - trebmuh
>> Update Ukranian Translation - yurchor
>>
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[Audacity-translation] More languages received and in.

[James Crook]

Thank you translators!
These translations now committed:

Update Italian Translation - mlocati
Update Slovenian Translation - Martin Srebotnjak
Update Hindi Translation - bashishtha
Update Dutch Translation - RockyTDR
Update Korean Translation - hwan-ajou
Update Chinese Translation - Jesse Lin
Update Russian Translation - Nikitich
Update Portuguese (pt_PT) Translation - BrunoRamalhete
Update Polish from Transifex - Gootector
Turkish translation updated to 3.0.1 - serkan-maker
Update Finnish Translation - hisahi
Update French Translation - trebmuh
Update Ukranian Translation - yurchor

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

[James Crook]

Thanks for this too.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 23:59, Bruno Ramalhete  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Attached European Portuguese translation file, pt_PT.po file.
>
> Regards.
> Bruno Santos Ramalhete
>
> James Crook  escreveu no dia quarta, 31/03/2021
> à(s) 23:38:
>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 23:35, Alexander Gabilondo via
>> Audacity-translation  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> attached eu-ES.po (Basque translation) updated for the new Audacity.pot
>>> in version 3.0.1.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Alex Gabilondo
>>>
>>> 21/3/31 14:57(e)an, James Crook igorleak idatzi zuen:
>>>
>>> Updated .po and .pot files for Audacity 3.0.1 are now available.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/tree/master/locale
>>>
>>> I'm planning to code freeze on 5th April, so I would like updated
>>> translations by then.  If you've questions about the new strings, there
>>> aren't that many of them, please ask here.
>>>
>>> It is possible I will need to do more than one release candidate, in
>>> which case I'll include translations available later too, but 5th April is
>>> for being sure of being in the 3.0.1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --James.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

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Thank you!

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 23:35, Alexander Gabilondo via Audacity-translation <
audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> attached eu-ES.po (Basque translation) updated for the new Audacity.pot in
> version 3.0.1.
>
> Regards,
> --Alex Gabilondo
>
> 21/3/31 14:57(e)an, James Crook igorleak idatzi zuen:
>
> Updated .po and .pot files for Audacity 3.0.1 are now available.
>
> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/tree/master/locale
>
> I'm planning to code freeze on 5th April, so I would like updated
> translations by then.  If you've questions about the new strings, there
> aren't that many of them, please ask here.
>
> It is possible I will need to do more than one release candidate, in which
> case I'll include translations available later too, but 5th April is for
> being sure of being in the 3.0.1.
>
>
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

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Thank you!

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 17:09, Sampo Hippeläinen 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> attached is a fi.po (Finnish translation) updated for the new Audacity.pot
> in version 3.0.1.
>
> Regards,
> -- Sampo
>
>
>
> ke 31. maalisk. 2021 klo 15.58 James Crook (james.k.cr...@gmail.com)
> kirjoitti:
>
>> Updated .po and .pot files for Audacity 3.0.1 are now available.
>>
>> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/tree/master/locale
>>
>> I'm planning to code freeze on 5th April, so I would like updated
>> translations by then.  If you've questions about the new strings, there
>> aren't that many of them, please ask here.
>>
>> It is possible I will need to do more than one release candidate, in
>> which case I'll include translations available later too, but 5th April is
>> for being sure of being in the 3.0.1.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated French translation for 3.0.1

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Thank you Olivier!

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 14:22, Olivier Humbert  wrote:

> Hi James and all.
>
> Please find the French translation 3.0.1 update attached.
>
> Best,
> Olivier
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[Audacity-translation] Updated .pot and .po for 3.0.1 available.

[James Crook]

Updated .po and .pot files for Audacity 3.0.1 are now available.

https://github.com/audacity/audacity/tree/master/locale

I'm planning to code freeze on 5th April, so I would like updated
translations by then.  If you've questions about the new strings, there
aren't that many of them, please ask here.

It is possible I will need to do more than one release candidate, in which
case I'll include translations available later too, but 5th April is for
being sure of being in the 3.0.1.



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[Audacity-translation] Audacity 3.0.0 Released.

[James Crook]

A big thank you to you all for your work earlier this year to get 
Audacity translated.


Audacity 3.0.0 has now been released and is available to users.
3.0.1 is currently planned to be a much smaller release, with mostly bug 
fixes.


Thank you for your translations!

--James


https://www.audacityteam.org/audacity-3-0-0-released/



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Re: [Audacity-translation] Transifex

[James Crook]

Coordination is done on this email translation list.
If three different translators submit via this list, by GitHub and by
Transifex, it needs to be sorted out here.

Generally the translator who has been here on this email list for longest
makes the decisions.
They would have to be being extremely rude to a new contributor, or
unwilling to comment on the validity of alternative translations for an
Audacity developer to step in and adjudicate.

--James.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 16:14, Bruno Ramalhete  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I created an account in Transifex, I would like to know how I can be the
> coordinator of the European Portuguese translation for Audacity? So there
> won't be issues for other people to translate and send the files.
>
> My Transifex username is: brunomsr
>
> Regards.
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[Audacity-translation] Post 3.0.0 additions.

[James Crook]

Welcome Augustus.
Looking forward to a Telugu translation for Audacity 3.0.1

Мирослав Николић thanks!
Your Serbian translation for Audacity 3.0.0 just squeaked in, post deadline.
Hwan-Ajou thank you too.   Your Korean updates are in for Audacity 3.0.0
too.


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[Audacity-translation] Thanks for translations.

[James Crook]

A big thank you for the hard work in updating all these translations.

These are now in Audacity, and are for Audacity 3.0.0.
We hope to have Audacity 3.0.0 released by 12th March.

Translation is now closed. I can/will though fix problems that can't wait
until 3.01.

Here's the list.  Particular thanks to Patriccollu and Mukul Kulkarni for
adding Corsican and Marathi.


Update Japanese translation - Phroneris
Update Hindi translation - bashishtha
Update Portuguese (pt_BR) translation - Cleber Tavano
Update Slovenian translation - Martin Srebotnjak
Update Vietnamese translation - bradfreedom
Update Traditional Chinese (zh_TW) translation - pan93412
Update Portuguese (pt_PT) translation - BrunoRamalhete
Update German translation - johuhype
Update French translation - trebmuh
Update Italian translation - mlocati
Update Basque translation - Alexander Gabilondo
Add Corsican translation - Patriccollu
Update Dutch translation - RockyTDR
Update Russian translation - Nikitich
Update Polish translation - Gootector
Update Finnish translation - hisahi
Update Ukranian translation - yurchor
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Add Marathi translation - Mukul Kulkarni
Update Danish translation - scootergrisen
Update Slovak translation - jozefM923
Update Korean translation - hwan-ajou
Update Simplified Chinese (zh_CN) translation - whriedplanck


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[Audacity-translation] Services such as GitHub, Transifex, Bablic, SDL Cloud, PhraseApp, WebTranslateIt

[James Crook]

Martin Srebotnjak asked:

Why cannot the file be automatically pulled from Transifex? I am attaching
> the "for use" po file, I hope that is correct.


The quick answer is 'we decided not to'.

Use of Transifex is optional.  Translators can use any platform that they
like.  We coordinate translation though through this email list.  A
translator who does not use and submit via this list may be wasting their
time.

A particular problem arises when two translators, e.g. for Catalan or
Slovakian both translate Audacity.  I do not know Catalan or Slovakian, and
can only guess at how to resolve the differences.  In the end the
translators need to talk with each other and sort it out between them.

What do I do if I get a .po file here and a pull request for the same file
on GitHub?  Or a 100% complete status on Transifex?  The .po file here wins.

If a translator has a question about a translation string it is best if it
comes here.  It may affect other languages too.

So, Martin, we decided not to upload direct from Transifex.


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Re: [Audacity-translation] Japanese translation is updated and there WAS a serious problem

[James Crook]

Thank you.  I shall pass the comments about the broken update on to the
developer to review and see if it affected other languages too.  Really
helpful.  Thanks again.

On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 22:15, 森の子リスのミーコの大冒険  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I updated ja.po.
> File: attached.
> Log: https://github.com/Phroneris/audacity/tree/ja
>
> And, I faced a serious bug on Japanese use.
> It's not just a display trouble or a kind of difficulty in translating,
> but a thing spoils Audacity's time processing.
> It's in "src/widgets/NumericTextCtrl.cpp".
>
> Very recently, the NumericTextCtrl has been substituting ">" / "<" for raw
> "." / "," as the decimal separator.
> This feature itself should be great, but the replacement operation in
> ja.po touched only source strings
> and existing translations containing decimal formats were neither replaced
> nor made fuzzy.
> As a result, with an old ja.po just after the official update
> ,
> my Audacity gets to understand
> 1 second in "hh:mm:ss + hundredths" ("時:分:秒 + 1/100 秒") as 100 seconds in
> "seconds" ("秒").
>
> I haven't maintained ja.po since around v2.3.1 and just happened to do it
> this time.
> So the problem is fixed timely and fortunately.
> Other languages seem ok about this, but I'm not sure ALL ones are ok.
>
> Regards,
> Phroneris
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot updated. French translation

[James Crook]

Thank you Olivier!

I made a mistake in committing a wrong fr.po and will commit this correct
one tomorrow to fix it.
It was an oversight. I had read the discussion, seen what to do, but forgot
that when I was making some updates!  My mistake.

--James.


On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 23:16, Olivier Humbert  wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> @James, please find attached the French translation updated to 100%.
> Have a nice release.
>
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[Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot updated.

[James Crook]

Audacity.pot has been updated for 3.0.0.
We'd like translations for 12th February which is when we will close
translation for 3.0.0.

Looking forward to getting this 3.0.0 release done!

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Adding new Corsican language to Audacity

[James Crook]

Thanks for your work!
It's best to send the .po file to this email list.

--James

On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 00:44, Patriccollu Gmail 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I subscribed to this mailing list as I would like to contribute to this
> interesting project as translator!
>
> The translation of Audacity in Corsican is now complete. It has been based
> on audacity.pot version 2.4.2 dowloaded from GitHub
> .
> Please let me know how to provide you with this brand new localization?
>
> Do I need to send the translated audacity.po file to this public thread? I
> can also upload it to Transifex or create a Pull Request on Github as I
> already use these systems for other software.
>
> Best regards,
> Patriccollu.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity project on Transifex - Appeal for Chinese Simplified translations 2020

[James Crook]

Thanks.

There are likely to be more updates to strings before the string freeze, so
updates into GitHub will wait until after
the string freeze for 3.0.0.

--James.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 06:08, WhiredPlanck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm WhiredPlanck, a simplified Chinese user of Audacity.
>
> Audacity is one of my frequently used software. But I can't usually use
> it smoothly because of the incomplete translation.
>
> So on July 20, I posted a .po file to GitHub and Transifex. I've keeped it
> up to date on Transifex. And now the cleaning up is going around, I read
> the
> announcement and knew that I'm supossed to post it here.
>
> And thanks to mkpoli, who is also a translation contributor of the
> translation.
> mkpoli also completed most of Audacuty's Chinese Simplified translation
> in 2020.
>
>
> The .po file in the attachment is the latest one. Anyway, thank you all
> developers for bringing us Audacity!
>
> Regards!
>
> WhiredPlanck
> November 7, 2020 (CST)
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Breton language (was: Audacity-translation Digest, Vol 158, Issue 16)

[James Crook]

OK.  If the Breton translator wants that, then we can look at a developer
making a very special case for Breton.
Let's avoid  "un pansement sur une jambe de bois".

--James.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 18:54, Olivier Humbert  wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> It sounds like a shaky idea to me. "A bandage on a wooden leg" ("un
> pansement sur une jambe de bois") as we say in French.
> In my opinion, the suggestion made by Stéphane Ascoet a few days ago is
> the best one: make sure that for strings not translated into Breton, the
> fallback language is French rather than English, because as Stéphane
> mentioned, we can count on the idea that 99.99% of people who speak
> Breton also speak French while the percentage of people who speak Breton
> and also English will be way lower.
>
> The thing we would need in this case is a developer willing to make it
> happen.
> @James: could you please bring that idea to the developers team and
> check if someone is willing/able to do so? (if it hasn't already been
> done, of course). Thank you.
>
> All the best,
> Olivier
>
> PS: note that if that's not possible, that is fine for
> my(personnaly)self, I'm just trying to share and discuss ideas here.
>
>
>
> Le 2020-11-04 18:27, Thomas De Rocker a écrit :
> > Maybe I can offer a (partial) solution to this problem.
> >
> >  When using Transifex, strings have 2 "levels" of completion:
> >
> >   * translated
> >   * reviewed
> >
> > If the Breton translation file would be containing both French and
> > Breton strings, it would show as 100 % translated. But...
> >
> >   * if the Breton strings were to be marked as "reviewed" and
> >   * the French strings were to be marked as "translated"
> >
> > it would be possible to see the percentage of completion by looking at
> > the "reviewed" percentage. This has to be done carefully, though...
> > and importing and exporting translation files in Transifex could break
> > this easily.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > -
> >
> > VAN: James Crook
> > VERZONDEN: woensdag 4 november 2020 16:01
> > AAN: audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net
> > 
> > ONDERWERP: Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity-translation Digest, Vol
> > 158, Issue 16
> >
> > Yes.  Which is why it is not simply up to the translator to choose.
> > Yes.  The translation would appear incorrectly as 100% complete.
> >
> > So all in all it's probably a bad idea for our hypothetical Breton
> > translator to decide to put French into the empty places.  Still, I
> > would allow it, if they told me that in their professional opinion as
> > a Breton speaker that it was for the best.
> >
> > --James.
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 14:38, Stephane Ascoet
> > wrote:
> >
> >> James Crook :
> >>> I'd assume they know what they are
> >>> doing.
> >>>
> >>> If Dutch had been neglected for a while and a new translator came
> >> along and
> >>> put German translations in for all the missing items, I'd say "NO"
> >>
> >> The situation is completely different since Breton is one of the two
> >>
> >> languages of Brittany, witch is part of france since centuries.
> >> However,
> >> now it's another problem that I can see: if the translator does
> >> this,
> >> the translation would appear incorrectly to be made at 100%
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity-translation Digest, Vol 158, Issue 16

[James Crook]

That's neat.

I'm hoping the need does not arise and that the Breton translator is
sufficiently nationalistic not to switch to French for some words.

--james.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 17:27, Thomas De Rocker 
wrote:

> Maybe I can offer a (partial) solution to this problem.
>
> When using Transifex, strings have 2 "levels" of completion:
>
>- translated
>- reviewed
>
> If the Breton translation file would be containing both French and Breton
> strings, it would show as 100 % translated. But...
>
>
>- if the Breton strings were to be marked as "reviewed" and
>- the French strings were to be marked as "translated"
>
> it would be possible to see the percentage of completion by looking at the
> "reviewed" percentage. This has to be done carefully, though... and
> importing and exporting translation files in Transifex could break this
> easily.
>
> Regards
>
> Thomas
> --
> *Van:* James Crook 
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 4 november 2020 16:01
> *Aan:* audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net <
> audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity-translation Digest, Vol
> 158, Issue 16
>
> Yes.  Which is why it is not simply up to the translator to choose.
> Yes.  The translation would appear incorrectly as 100% complete.
>
> So all in all it's probably a bad idea for our hypothetical Breton
> translator to decide to put French into the empty places.  Still, I
> would allow it, if they told me that in their professional opinion as a
> Breton speaker that it was for the best.
>
> --James.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 14:38, Stephane Ascoet <
> stephane.asc...@univ-paris1.fr> wrote:
>
> James Crook :
> > I'd assume they know what they are
> > doing.
> >
> > If Dutch had been neglected for a while and a new translator came along
> and
> > put German translations in for all the missing items, I'd say "NO"
>
> The situation is completely different since Breton is one of the two
> languages of Brittany, witch is part of france since centuries. However,
> now it's another problem that I can see: if the translator does this,
> the translation would appear incorrectly to be made at 100%
>
>
> --
> Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet
>
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity-translation Digest, Vol 158, Issue 16

[James Crook]

Yes.  Which is why it is not simply up to the translator to choose.
Yes.  The translation would appear incorrectly as 100% complete.

So all in all it's probably a bad idea for our hypothetical Breton
translator to decide to put French into the empty places.  Still, I
would allow it, if they told me that in their professional opinion as a
Breton speaker that it was for the best.

--James.



On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 14:38, Stephane Ascoet 
wrote:

> James Crook :
> > I'd assume they know what they are
> > doing.
> >
> > If Dutch had been neglected for a while and a new translator came along
> and
> > put German translations in for all the missing items, I'd say "NO"
>
> The situation is completely different since Breton is one of the two
> languages of Brittany, witch is part of france since centuries. However,
> now it's another problem that I can see: if the translator does this,
> the translation would appear incorrectly to be made at 100%
>
>
> --
> Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet
>
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity-translation in Breton

[James Crook]

What Thomas says.

If we have a translator translating Breton, and that translator really
really wants to use French for the untranslated items, and puts those
translations in, I'd accept that.  I'd assume they know what they are
doing.

If Dutch had been neglected for a while and a new translator came along and
put German translations in for all the missing items, I'd say "NO", (after
asking around my Dutch friends first, just to make sure he/she really was
trolling me).  I'd then tell him/her to go and troll a different project.

--James.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 10:14, Thomas De Rocker 
wrote:

> Hi Stephane
>
> Non-translated strings are always switched back to the source language
> (English).
>
> One way to circumvent this, is by copying French translations to the empty
> Breton strings. That way, it'll be "100 % translated", and behave the way
> you suggested.
>
> Regards
>
> Thomas
> --
> *Van:* Stephane Ascoet 
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 4 november 2020 8:21
> *Aan:* audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net <
> audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity-translation in Breton
>
> > From: James Crook 
> >
> > At the moment there is no volunteer Breton translator.
> > If one surfaces, it is for them to decide whether they will do that.
> >
> > (percentage complete will depend on percentage of items translated into
> > Breton).
> >
> Hi, do you mean that it's the translator(s) who decides which language
> Audacity switch back for non-translated strings?
>
> Sadly there's few chances that somebody takes the burden: there was an
> organization doing translations for software in the golden beginning of
> the 2000s. After my previous mail, I've searched for it on the Web and
> found it. It seems to be discontinued. Additionally, I guess that the
> missing parts are very audio-editing-specific words that doesn't exist
> in Breton yet and thus new maintainers will need to be skilled
> linguistic specialists(like there was some in the former organization)
>
> --
> Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] New translation for Audacity (exported from Transifex): Breton

[James Crook]

I've added the four new (inactive) translations into the inactive folder.

The criterion for adding a new translation to active source is 80%+
translated.
Demotion to inactive may happen if less than 50% is translated.

I've not added the transifex be,km,lt or oc to inactive (or elsewhere).
They already have partial translations in audacity source.  Those transifex
alternatives to what we have will be lost.  If we get a new translator for
those languages they can start from the versions which were actually
submitted to Audacity by translators in the past.

If someone disagrees with that policy of just ignoring those four partial
translations, the solution is to 'become the translator' for that language
for 3.0.0, and after string freeze, submit the po file here.

Thomas, thanks for your work on this, and sending me the files.

--James.


On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 15:16, Thomas De Rocker 
wrote:

> Hi James
>
> My answers are marked in yellow.
>
> Regards
>
> Thomas
>
> ------
> *Van:* James Crook 
> *Verzonden:* zondag 1 november 2020 14:24
> *Aan:* audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net <
> audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Audacity-translation] New translation for Audacity
> (exported from Transifex): Breton
>
> Thanks Thomas.
> I'll take it to the rest of the developer team and get back to you.
>
> We might decide on a cut off to be added as a new language, and a
> different (lower) cutoff  for being dropped.
>
> Ok, sounds like a good solution!
>
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:30, Thomas De Rocker 
> wrote:
>
> Hi James
>
> I understand, but then the same goes for these languages that are already
> present in the sourcecode, for example:
>
> Afrikaans (af): 12 %
> Bulgarian (bg): 33 %
> Bengali (bn): 1 %
> Bosnian (bs): 17 %
> Welsh (cy): 7 %
> ...
>
> I know it's not optimal, but in my opinion, it's better to have a partial
> translation than no translation at all. Especially for people who grew up
> never learning English. It will make more software accessible for them, and
> it will attract other translators for that language, too. Seeing a partial
> translation made me want to translate Audacity and VLC Media Player.
>
>
> But I think for you, seeing no translation would also have done that. That
> would probably be true 
>
> Given your concerns, and that transifex actually deletes the work,(to be
> clear: the translations teams were deleted from Transifex by me, to clean
> things up. Transifex will never delete translations by itself) I'll add
> an 'inactive' subdirectory to locale. Perfect!  Bengali at least really
> should be there.  If you off list send me the po files for the others, I
> can add them there until such time as we gain an active translator for
> each. Ok, I will resend the .po files for the new and updated languages.
>
>
>
>
>
> About the other arguments:
>
>- *With no team/translator behind it, we additionally can't ask for
>fixes to problems**.* What kind of problems are we talking about?
>
> Ah!  I had mistakenly thought items which had become fuzzy translations
> might get used rather than being automatically discarded.  And that would
> be a problem with no translator around. Also, as far as I know, Transifex
> doesn't use "fuzzy" translations because it uses its built-in translation
> memory instead.
> You're right.  We only need to contact active translators for problems
> that are new.
>
>
>- *A new translator has to check all the existing translations
>anyway.  The extent that '57% translated' helps them is much much less than
>it seems.  My partner has worked as a translator, and does not like jobs
>where she is asked to correct someone else's translations. *True,
>correcting existing translations can be a tedious job. I've done it many
>times in the past. But... it will take less time than starting from
>scratch, and ideally, the existing translations are correct (or the quality
>is good enough to leave them be).
>
> Eventually, it's a choice that the developers have to make:
>
>- Add every translation to the source code (independent of %
>completed), or
>- Only apply translations with e.g. 80 % completion and make the other
>translations invisible in the software.
>
> Either way, I would add the new translations to the source code to make
> sure the efforts of previous translators aren't in vain (except maybe the 1
> and 2 % completed ones)
>
>
> I understand your concerns.  Hope the approach above is good.
>
> Sure!
>
> --James.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity-translation in Breton

[James Crook]

At the moment there is no volunteer Breton translator.
If one surfaces, it is for them to decide whether they will do that.

(percentage complete will depend on percentage of items translated into
Breton).

On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 at 15:39, Stephane Ascoet 
wrote:

> > From: Thomas De Rocker 
> >
> > I know it's not optimal, but in my opinion, it's better to have a
> partial translation than no translation at all. Especially for people who
> grew up never learning English. It will make more software accessible for
> them, and it will attract other translators for that language, too. Seeing
> a partial translation made me want to translate Audacity and VLC Media
> Player.
> >
>
> Hi, I'm not saying that I disagree with the content of your mail, but to
> complete: by now nobody who speak Breton doesn't speak french at least
> also, if not english, since by now breton-speaker are mostly young
> activists rather than old people.
>
> This give me the idea that Audacity should take in account a back off
> language different from English in this sort of cases: for Breton,
> non-localized strings should switch to french rather than English.
> --
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Transifex project for Audacity - cleanup update!

[James Crook]

To add to that

During development wording of the same text may change several times.
This happens particularly for error messages.
So if you are translating the '(development)' version, you may find that
annoying.

--James.


On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 at 11:43, Thomas De Rocker 
wrote:

> To all translators using the Transifex project:
>
> Thanks to Michele Locati, we added a second resource to the Audacity
> Transifex project. This allows for translators to do more continuous
> translation, independent of *string freezes*, if they would like to.
>
> Currently, these are the resources:
>
>- Audacity
>- Audacity (development)
>
> The *Audacity* resource is the standard resource, not updated frequently,
> the *string freeze* version.
> The *Audacity (development)* resource is updated daily (synced with the
> master branch of the Audacity repository)
>
> During the *string freeze* period, both resources will be identical.
> After that, the *Audacity* resource should remain the same until the next
> string freeze, whereas the *Audacity (development)* resource will slowly
> diverge.
> When the next string freeze happens, the translations from the *Audacity
> (development*) resource can be imported back into the *Audacity* resource.
>
> So:
>
> Resource *Audacity*: translate only this one if you want to translate
> only after a string freeze
> Resource *Audacity (development)*: translate this one if you want a
> continuous translation, and import those translations back into the
> *Audacity* resource when a string freeze happens.
>
> About submitting translations to the mailing list:
> You should *only* submit translations from resource *Audacity* to the
> mailing list. The *Audacity (development)* translations will probably be
> incompatible with the Audacity source code until a *string freeze*.
>
> If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] New translation for Audacity (exported from Transifex): Breton

[James Crook]

Even a 57% translation is not really usable.  It will drop back into
English in the places where translation is most needed!


   - With no team/translator behind it, we additionally can't ask for fixes
   to problems.
   - A new translator has to check all the existing translations anyway.
   The extent that '57% translated' helps them is much much less than it
   seems.  My partner has worked as a translator, and does not like jobs where
   she is asked to correct someone else's translations.


I'm thinking we shouldn't add Breton to the languages for Audacity
(likewise others abandoned translations).


--James.



On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 11:27, Thomas De Rocker 
wrote:

> Breton translation is now at 57 %. Please add it to the Audacity source
> code.
> As said in my previous mail, Transifex team for this language was
> *deleted*. New translators can apply through the mailing list.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Transifex/Weblate...

[James Crook]

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 17:18, Olivier Humbert  wrote:

> Le 2020-10-24 13:42, Thomas De Rocker a écrit :
> > Hi Olivier
> >
> >  I deleted the Transifex translations. If you ever want to switch to
> > Transifex, please let me know.
> >
> >  Regards
> >
> >  Thomas De Rocker (RockyTDR) - Dutch translator
>
> OK, that's good.
>
>
>
> >  I downloaded your latest French Audacity translations from GitHub and
> > uploaded them into the Transifex project (now 97.7 % completed).
>
> This is wrong. The French translation is 100% translated.
>
> If some strings in the French translation file could **appear** to be
> untranslated, it is done on purpose.
> When a English string does translate with the same characters in French,
> there is no added value to translated it.
> On the contrary, it can be counterproductive to translate such strings
> because:
> 1. it's a way to create a mistake when copying it
> 2. if the original string is updated, then it should be copied/pasted
> again, while leaving the translation "empty", there is no problem and it
> reduces the update maintenance.
>
> Anyway, writing it again clearly: the French translation is 100% done
> currently.
> As usual for a few years now, I'll update it when we'll be in the
> strings freeze for the next release.
>

Great.



>
> To all the translators, it is a loss of time to translate new strings
> before we are in the strings-freeze period, because such strings could
> still move. Better to wait for the "strings freeze" green light from the
> devs.
>

+1



> Finally, to add to the discussion, as far as I know, Transifex is a
> proprietary plateform and is a business.
> I hope that no one ever will try to enforce me to use such a plateform
> to translate a free software such as Audacity.
>

We will never force you to do that.

--James.



> Cheers,
> Olivier
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Re: [Audacity-translation] About Chinese (Simplified) translators

[James Crook]

Thank you for all your work in the past mkpoli.
All the best with your studies at University.

--James.

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 08:23, snowwolf1001  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I’m mkpoli and I’ve been translating Audacity into zh-CN nearly from
> scratch since 2017, because at that time it was almost abandoned.
>
> Last year, I entered University and found myself really busy. I tried to
> keep translating, but I’ve had difficulty to finish before deadline. As a
> result, I skipped several versions.
>
> Recently due to the move by Thomas and other translators, I started
> noticing Transifex. I have almost always translated it locally without
> using such services. Till then, I realised there is someone working on
> Transifex and finished translating onto current version, which means we
> have done quite some repeated work.
>
> User “WhiredPlanck” is the main contributor on Transifex for zh-CN in
> 2020. I have successfully made contact with him, and he is positive towards
> taking over it. He said he will introduce himself and the current situation
> later here.
>
> If everything goes well, I may still contribute on translation of
> Audacity, but will be inactive.
>
> Sincerely,
> mkpoli
>
>
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Re: [Audacity-translation] How to submit new translated .po file

[James Crook]

I prefer to get new .po files on this email list.

However, I will take them from the github list sometimes, if there is no
translation offered here on this list for that language.

--James.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 15:15, Dorian Archetto  wrote:

> Hello
> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pulls
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 9:42 AM Triloknath Nalawade 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello sir,
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Re: [Audacity-translation] How to submit new translated .po file

[James Crook]

You send the .po file as an attachment.
Which language are you translating into?

--James.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 14:49, Triloknath Nalawade 
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> Hello sir ,
> Me and My teammates  Translated .po file in our local language . but we
> didn't understand where is to submit or upload it .To make it public on
> Audacity Software .Please let me know how can we do it.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity audio projects storage

[James Crook]

Hi Stephane,



On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 09:27, Stephane Ascoet <
stephane.asc...@univ-paris1.fr> wrote:

> James Crook :
> >
> >
> > We are currently working towards Audacity 3.0.0.  This will change the
> > project file format from 'pile of files' to a single file.  In the past
> > many users were losing their audio because they did not realise that
> there
> > were many small files.  This is a big change and is perhaps no surprise
> > that we still have some bugs to sort with it.  We are hoping we will have
> > the updated .pot file with new strings to translate on 14th Nov.
> >
> >
>
> Hi, how would Audacity be as quick and responsive when editing audio
> then if it must rewrite an entire very big file for each change?


Audacity does not have to rewrite the entire file with each change.
Inside the file are 'pages' and Audacity only needs to update pages which
change.



> And how will be managed FS file size limitations?


The disk filling up is already a problem with 'pile of files'.

We expect to be better off when the FS 'says no' than we were before, and
to only lose the most recent changes that wouldn't fit.  And to properly
alert the user to disk full.

We are planning to have a space-meter for 3.0.1, as the disk filling up has
been a long standing problem.  For 3.0.0 you will just get some warnings
when disk space is low, and Audacity will tell you when it can't write any
more.

As to actual file size, the max file size on Windows-10/NTFS is 256
Terabytes, which should be enough.



> Will there be the choice in the preferences to stay with the the old way?
>

No.  We want to remove the problem of recordings getting broken by the
pile-of-file approach, so keeping it would be counter productive.


If you've more questions, please ask on the forum or on the development
email list, as this email list is for translations.


--James.



>
> --
> Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet
>
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[Audacity-translation] Tools and .po files.

[James Crook]

There is a certain kind of anarchy at work in translation, and from my
perspective people are free to use whatever tools they personally like best
for preparing translations.

- I much prefer to receive translations as .po files submitted to this list.
- I will occasionally accept translations submitted to GitHub, when there
isn't already a translator for that language submitting via this list.
- I will not go searching on transifex or on any other translation
platforms for more up to date translations.

So use the tools you like and are familiar with.  Be aware of the above too.



The main problem I have as a developer getting translation in to Audacity,
is where more than one translator is working on a translation and they
disagree with each other.  How would I know which translation is 'better'?

Generally I will prefer an established translator who has been contributing
in the past to a new translator who claims to have a better translation and
that 'everything the previous translator has ever translated is wrong'.



We are currently working towards Audacity 3.0.0.  This will change the
project file format from 'pile of files' to a single file.  In the past
many users were losing their audio because they did not realise that there
were many small files.  This is a big change and is perhaps no surprise
that we still have some bugs to sort with it.  We are hoping we will have
the updated .pot file with new strings to translate on 14th Nov.



The work you all do is awesome.  You have no idea how much it is
appreciated.


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Re: [Audacity-translation] Thanks for Korean, Portuguese, Greek, Arabic and Spanish Translations

[James Crook]

Seanán, the plans for 3.0.0 are still in flux, but it is likely to be at
least 6 months away.
The plans for 2.4.2 are here:
https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Next_Release

Are you interested in sending me a partially updated Irish translation?
(many translations we have are partial). Or do you want to leave it until
3.0.0?

--James.



On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 14:37, Seanán Ó Coistín  wrote:

> I am working on the Irish translation.
> When will Audacity 3.0 be released?
>
> Regards,
>
> Seanán Ó Coistín
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 14:03 James Crook  wrote:
>
>> Thank you translators for these 5 translations for Audacity 2.4.2, now
>> committed.
>> Translation for 2.4.2. is now closed and new translations will need to
>> wait for the next release, 3.0.0.
>>
>> Update Spanish Translation,  antpaniagua
>> Update Arabic Translation, Sawuare
>> Update Greek Translation, dmtrs32
>> Update Portuguese Translation, BrunoRamalhete
>> Update Korean Translation, hwan-ajou
>>
>>
>> --James.
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[Audacity-translation] Thanks for Korean, Portuguese, Greek, Arabic and Spanish Translations

[James Crook]

Thank you translators for these 5 translations for Audacity 2.4.2, now 
committed.
Translation for 2.4.2. is now closed and new translations will need to 
wait for the next release, 3.0.0.


Update Spanish Translation,  antpaniagua
Update Arabic Translation, Sawuare
Update Greek Translation, dmtrs32
Update Portuguese Translation, BrunoRamalhete
Update Korean Translation, hwan-ajou


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[Audacity-translation] Thanks for Russian, Basque, Italian, French, German, Slovak and Ukranian Translations.

[James Crook]

Thank you translators for these 7 translations for Audacity 2.4.2, now 
committed.


Update Russian Translation, Nikitich
Update Basque Translation, @Azpidatziak
Update Italian translations for 2.4.4, @mlocati
French translation update for 2.4.2 (#565), @trebmuh
Update German Translation, @johuhype
Update Slovak Translation, @Giovani93
Update Ukranian Translation, @yurchor

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Open for Translation for 2.4.2

[James Crook]

Thank you!

I need to update the instructions.
CMake can be obtained from here:
https://cmake.org/download/

It is also possible to download prebuilt audacity alphas from github, if
you have a github account.
(click on the green tick mark on https://github.com/audacity/audacity, then
click for details of windows_32 bit, and then - if you have made a github
account - you will see towards the top right a button saying 'Artifacts'.
A quick link to that download is
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/suites/776513405/artifacts/8153465 but
that link will change as we do new builds)


On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 16:50, Joachim Huffer 
wrote:

> Sorry, I forgot to attach the file :).
>
>
> Am Di., 9. Juni 2020 um 17:48 Uhr schrieb Joachim Huffer <
> joachim.huf...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> attached is the updated german translation for Audacity 2.4.2. It covers
>> all the new strings and many fixes and improvements.
>>
>> I wanted to test it by building the latest git version when I noticed the
>> build system changed and the sln-File for Windows no longer exists.
>> I tried to follow the instructions in build.txt (which were quite clear
>> previously). However, now It tells me I should open the CMake GUI out of
>> the blue (without pointing me to an installer or something similar before)
>> Perhaps there should be some additional information.
>>
>> Joachim
>>
>> Am Di., 9. Juni 2020 um 12:12 Uhr schrieb James Crook :
>>
>>> I've updated the audacity.pot file with the new strings from Audacity,
>>> and we are now open for translation for Audacity for 2.4.2 release.
>>> Updated .po files that match the .pot file are also available from the
>>> same locale directory in GitHub.
>>>
>>> Planned closing date for translation is 17th June.
>>>
>>> I've asked developers not to create any new strings for translation
>>> between now and release.
>>>
>>>
>>> --James.
>>>
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[Audacity-translation] Open for Translation for 2.4.2

[James Crook]

I've updated the audacity.pot file with the new strings from Audacity, 
and we are now open for translation for Audacity for 2.4.2 release.  
Updated .po files that match the .pot file are also available from the 
same locale directory in GitHub.


Planned closing date for translation is 17th June.

I've asked developers not to create any new strings for translation 
between now and release.



--James.



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Re: [Audacity-translation] FW: Thanks for Polish, Basque, 2xPotuguese and Russian Translations.

[James Crook]

On 21/04/2020 09:39, Hwanyong Lee (Ajou) wrote:

Oh please, please, add Korean translation too.


Updated :-)


Update Korean Translation
hwan-ajou

Thank you for the translation!


I am sorry I am late. BTW, where was due date noticed?


The planned date was in the 'Open for Translation for 2.4.0' message on 
8th April.


"Planned closing date for translation is 17th April."

We're glad to have your translation.

--James.





Hwanyong Lee

-Original Message-----
From: James Crook 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 2:31 AM
To: audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Audacity-translation] Thanks for Polish, Basque, 2xPotuguese and 
Russian Translations.

Thanks all the above for 2.4.0 translations, now committed to our master in 
GitHub. Translation for 2.4.0 is now closed.  We still have a few P2 bugs we 
are looking at and want to clear for release, so there may be a slightly longer 
than planned delay between now and release.

--James.


Update Polish Translation
Gootector

Update Basque Translation
Azpidatziak

Update Brazilian Portuguese Translation
Cleber Tavano

Update Russian Translation
Alexander Kovalenko

Update European Portuguese Translation
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[Audacity-translation] Thanks for Polish, Basque, 2xPotuguese and Russian Translations.

[James Crook]

Thanks all the above for 2.4.0 translations, now committed to our master 
in GitHub. Translation for 2.4.0 is now closed.  We still have a few P2 
bugs we are looking at and want to clear for release, so there may be a 
slightly longer than planned delay between now and release.


--James.


Update Polish Translation
Gootector

Update Basque Translation
Azpidatziak

Update Brazilian Portuguese Translation
Cleber Tavano

Update Russian Translation
Alexander Kovalenko

Update European Portuguese Translation
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Russian translation review

[James Crook]

Vyacheslav - please speak in English on this list.
Use Russian only for translation examples/corrections.

Thanks.
--James.

On 16/04/2020 16:41, Vyacheslav Dikonov via Audacity-translation wrote:

Поправил, все что пропустил. Мне больше всего понравились   «Ресэмплированые 
аудиотрекии»  8-D)

   

Четверг, 16 апреля 2020, 17:48 +03:00 от Vyacheslav Dikonov :
  
Спасибо!

Я уже на 90% готов с первым проходом. Многие опечатки уже нашел, но и 
пропустить мог.
  

Среда, 15 апреля 2020, 20:16 +03:00 от Yuri Chornoivan < yurc...@ukr.net >:
  
середа, 15 квітня 2020 р. 19:56:16 EEST Nikitich написано:

I corrected 2 entries
Trial %d
Попытка %d

Audacity can import unprotected files in many other formats
Audacity может импортировать множество других незащищённых форматов

And I am sending you fixed ru.po for the update of the Russian translation
Audacity version 2.4.0 --
Best Regards,
Nikitich.


Hi,

Just in case you want to fix more typos, here's the list:

акройте
большео
Выберает
детекцию
Детекция
журналуе
Измеяет
мметку
мно
настрек
нльзя
нормаровка
обработкед
окнаа
отпределить
перезаписанн
Перемещеные
поменены
Презагрузить
Преместить
програмное
проеобразовать
пропущеные
расположениии
редупреждений
Синусусоида
смещени
Сначало
Студиный
существут
Экпорт
экспериментальны
Экспортв
Экстримальный

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Yuri

P.S.
A script to check a locale for typos with Hunspell:

#!/bin/bash

for i in *.po
do
sed "s/[&_a-zA-Z]//g"<$i|hunspell -d  -l|sort|uniq>$i.txt
done

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Open for translation for 2.4.0

[James Crook]

Thanks scootergrisen.

I've added a how to download bit first.  It's not perfect, but better 
than it was, I think.


Our wiki was meant to have more extensive information for translators, 
as there is a great deal we could say!

We (now) link to this page for more information:

https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/For_Translators

If you'd like to improve what the wiki says, I can give you an account 
to edit pages on it.  I think the info on our main website could be 
reduced, and the details could then be on wiki, and go into more detail.


--James.


On 14/04/2020 18:08, scootergrisen wrote:

Den 14-04-2020 kl. 18:19 skrev James Crook:
Scootergrisen: Builds of GitHub master Audacity 2.4.0-alpha are 
available by clicking the green tick mark on this page

https://github.com/audacity/audacity

This takes you to several versions, e.g. this one for windows:
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/runs/586174843


I would like the instructions to be on:
https://www.audacityteam.org/community/translators/

So when translators are told the strings are now frozen the builds 
could be made at the same time so the pot/po will match the version.


If possible. 




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Re: [Audacity-translation] Open for translation for 2.4.0

[James Crook]

Scootergrisen: Builds of GitHub master Audacity 2.4.0-alpha are 
available by clicking the green tick mark on this page

https://github.com/audacity/audacity

This takes you to several versions, e.g. this one for windows:
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/runs/586174843


Thanks also for your kpbs / kbps typo fix too.
I've handled this and another typo in a way that avoids a .pot file 
update.  We'll update the pot for that for 2.4.1.


--James.


On 13/04/2020 11:48, scootergrisen wrote:

I wanted to test the updated translated i worked on for 2.4.0.
But it seems the alpha build is 2.3.3-rc03 not 2.4.0.

I would like the version of the translation to match to version of 
Audacity so i can be sure the strings will be there correctly.


Also inside Audacity About dialog it says 2.3.3 not 2.3.3-rc03. 




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Re: [Audacity-translation] How to post files to Audacity repository

[James Crook]

Marco - Please post it here on this email list.

Also, please can you and Jozef sort out between you what the final 
version is.
It isn't helpful having it drip fed, "here's an update...  here's 
another update".


--James.


On 09/04/2020 14:04, Marco Oros wrote:

Hello.

I have a question. How to post files to repository on github? I would 
like to post my translation to github.


Thank You.

Marco Oros



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Re: [Audacity-translation] Open for translation for 2.4.0

[James Crook]

Preferred way is as a .po file attached to an email to this list.
I find this makes communication easier - important when there is a 
change of translator or more than one translator and different opinions 
about what the 'correct' translation is.


Thanks for asking.


--James.


On 09/04/2020 07:09, Yuri Chornoivan wrote:

середа, 8 квітня 2020 р. 22:48:00 EEST James Crook написано:

I've updated the audacity.pot file with the new strings from Audacity,
and we are now open for translation for Audacity for 2.4.0 release.
Updated .po files that match the .pot file are also available from the
same locale directory in GitHub.

Planned closing date for translation is 17th April.

I've asked developers not to create any new strings for translation
between now and release.


--James.

Hi,

Many thanks for your work.

What is the preferred way to submit translations during this release cycle?

Thanks in advance for your answer.

Best regards,
Yuri




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I've updated the audacity.pot file with the new strings from Audacity, 
and we are now open for translation for Audacity for 2.4.0 release.  
Updated .po files that match the .pot file are also available from the 
same locale directory in GitHub.


Planned closing date for translation is 17th April.

I've asked developers not to create any new strings for translation 
between now and release.



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Re: [Audacity-translation] My Slovak translation wasn't applied

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Release of 2.4.0 is planned for end of March, if all goes exactly to 
schedule.

There will likely be more new strings to translate by then.

--James.


On 12/02/2020 18:08, Marco Oros wrote:

Hello.

Now I have very bad question to You, but that's true.

I have downloaded new version of Audacity, but My Slovak translation 
wasn't applied to this version.


I have sent this translation to this mailing list, but why It wasn't 
applied?


What was happened, that You haven't apply My translation and text is 
again technically translated?


Thank You.

I hope, that this issue will be solved soon.

best regards

Marco Oros from Slovakia



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Thanks for these two translations, now committed.
--James.


Author: Bruno Ramalhete 
    Update Brazilian Portuguese Translation
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/commit/e7076e4a7506938fe9bced72948670af34368081

Author: Marco Oros 
    Update Slovak Translation
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/commit/8947463d39f53f54f1cbd819fc44733b1633130c



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Re: [Audacity-translation] My latest Slovak translation update

[James Crook]

We do need the .po file not the .mo file.

However, although I will take pull requests from GitHub, I prefer .po 
files posted here.
If something is posted here, it means that the translator is subscribed 
to this email list, and that is important especially when two people 
contribute on the same language.  It also means they understand our 
schedule better, the string freeze, the call for translation, and 
collection of translations.


--James.

On 30/11/2019 13:09, Yi-Jyun Pan wrote:

Hi,

1. Please send this to GitHub with Pull Request.
 Please refer to
https://help.github.com/en/github/collaborating-with-issues-and-pull-requests/creating-a-pull-request
,
 Audacity's repository: https://github.com/audacity/audacity
2. And, please send the "po" file, not the compiled MO file.

Marco Oros  於 2019年11月30日 週六 下午8:23寫道：


Hello.

Here is My slovak translation update.

Thank You.

Marco





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[Audacity-translation] Translation for 2.3.3 now closed. Thank you All!

[James Crook]

Thank you all for your translations for Audacity 2.3.3!
Translation for Audacity 2.3.3 is now closed.

--James.



Author: Paul Chang 
    Update Chinese (TW) Translation
Author: mkpoli 
    Update Chinese (CW) Translation
Author: Yuri Chornoivan 
    Update Ukranian Translation
Author: Alexander Kovalenko 
    Update Russian Translation
Author: Bruno Ramalhete 
    Update Portuguese Translation
Author: Thomas De Rocker 
    Update Dutch Translation
Author: Hwanyong Lee 
    Update Korean Translation
Author: Michele Locati 
    Update Italian Translation
Author: b n singh 
    Update Hindi Translation
Author: Azpidatziak 
    Update Basque Translation
Author: Antonio P 
    Update Spanish Translation
Author: Dimitris Spingos (Δημήτρης Σπίγγος) 
    Update Greek Translation
Author: Joachim Huffer 
    Update German Translation
Author: scootergrisen 
    Update Danish Translation
Author: Alfredo vicente 
    Update Valencian (Catalan) Translation
Author: Grzegorz Pruchniakowski 
    Updated Polish Translation
Author: Olivier Humbert 
    Update French Translation



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Re: [Audacity-translation] ru.po

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Thank you Nikitich.  This is the one I will use.
--James.

On 21/09/2019 08:20, Nikitich wrote:

Hi James,
I adjusted the translation style in 4 points using the Olesya's option.
I reported this to Olesya.
At the same time, I corrected several inaccuracies.
Attached is a new updated translation file for Russian (ru) locale.
--
Best Regards,
Nikitich.




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Hi Olesya and Nikitich...
Both of you have provided ru.po files for Audacity 2.3.3.  Please talk 
with each other and let me know the outcome.

--James.



On 20/09/2019 14:42, Olesya Gerasimenko wrote:

Hello!

Please find attached the updated Russian translation. 




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Re: [Audacity-translation] "..." is added to some menu items

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On 10/09/2019 15:49, scootergrisen wrote:

Den 10-09-2019 kl. 15:43 skrev Stephane Ascoet:
Hi, it means that another choice(s) will have to be taken before the 
action to be done. The more evident examples are "save" and "save 
as...". The first record the document immediately, the second will do 
it after having asked filename, path and so on


I am looking for the ability to translate "...".


Please don't translate it.

At least not for Audacity 2.3.3.

Attempting to will likely cause problems.  I don't think anyone 
considered the possibility that it might need translation.  It is too 
late to change that for this release.  It isn't just a simple edit in 
our source code.


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[Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.3 Available.

[James Crook]

Audacity strings for 2.3.3 are ready for translation in updated 
Audacity.pot.

I also updated the .po files at the same time.


If there are questions about any new strings, please ask here. The 
answers may be useful to everyone.

Translation closes 9am Saturday September 21st.
If all goes well (it usually doesn't) we will release on 7th October.

--James

(Release Manager for Audacity 2.3.3)



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Re: [Audacity-translation] misstakes in Slovak translation of Audacity

[James Crook]

Marco, can you please talk with Janko Kinčeš 
who last updated the sk.po file? Between you can you work out who does what?

--James.




On 13/05/2019 21:58, Marco Oros wrote:

Hello.

I am Marco Oros. I am from Slovakia and I have found some big mistakes 
in Audacity. I think ofcourse, in Slovak translation of Audacity. I 
would like to corect those things in Audacity.


How to do that?

Thank You.

Marco Oros



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[Audacity-translation] Audacity 2.3.2 Released!

[James Crook]

Audacity 2.3.2 has been released.

Release announcement here:
https://www.audacityteam.org/

Thanks to you all for making the translation process go so smoothly.


--James.



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Audacity 2.3.2 RC001 is now available at FossHub audacity-devel for testing.

https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity-devel.html

--James.



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Thanks to everyone who translated for Audacity 2.3.2.  That all went 
very smoothly thanks to your help.


Translation is now closed for 2.3.2.  We will be building Release 
Candidates shortly and hope to release by 16th May.


--James (RM for 2.3.2)



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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Spanish (es) translation

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 28/04/2019 08:20, Antonio P wrote:

Find attached the updated translation of Audacity

Regards,

Antonio Paniagua




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Re: [Audacity-translation] Cosmetic update to Audacity.pot

[James Crook]

There was no need for you to make the version string update, as I had 
already done it for the .po files for all languages.
Thanks for the additional changes to the Russian translation though.  
Committed, because of these additional changes.


--James.



On 25/04/2019 04:21, Nikitich wrote:

Hi,
I love the correctness, so I send Russian (ru.po) file with cosmetic changes for
commit.
If you have caused any inconvenience, please excuse me.
Thanks. Best regards.
Nikitich




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Re: [Audacity-translation] Cosmetic update to Audacity.pot

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On 24/04/2019 21:20, scootergrisen wrote:

Den 24-04-2019 kl. 21:27 skrev James Crook:

I've updated Audacity.pot but no one needs to do anything about it.


But the same problem well happen next time so why not just write master?


'audacity master' rather than 'audacity 2.3.2'?

Maybe I will do that.  Another option is that I fetch the version number 
automatically from version.h.

Anyway, this is how it is for 2.3.2.

--James.



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I've updated Audacity.pot but no one needs to do anything about it.

It is just to change the version number, and fix some hint strings.
It does not change the translation at all.

--James.




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Re: [Audacity-translation] Translations in audacity.desktop

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I've updated the desktop file, per pull request.

Please in future use a commit message that distinguishes the desktop.in 
file from other translation e.g.


Add desktop.in Slovak Translation


Thanks for the translation.
James.



On 24/04/2019 19:02, scootergrisen wrote:

Den 24-04-2019 kl. 19:53 skrev Yuri Chornoivan:

середа, 24 квітня 2019 р. 20:53:11 EEST scootergrisen написано:

Den 24-04-2019 kl. 19:36 skrev janko.kinces...@gmail.com:

Hello. I am from Slovakia. I can translate these texts.

GenericName=Zvukový Editor

Comment=Nahráva a upravuje audio súbory.


Slovakia use "sk" language code right?


Yes.


Ok i made https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/355
Lets wait and see if it will be accepted.




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[James Crook]

Thanks.  Committed.

On 22/04/2019 22:52, janko.kinces...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello. I am sending finished translated .po file.

*Od: *James Crook <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>
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On 22/04/2019 21:46, janko.kinces...@gmail.com
<mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I found po file on website

 https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/master/locale/sk.po  It has 
these text

 you need. But almost nothing is translated in it. I will have to translate 
it whole.

You can sync the audacity.pot file with your .po file, and just translate the
strings you do not have already.

--James.

 *Od: *James Crook<mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>  <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>

 *Odoslané: *pondelok 22. apríla 2019 18:56

 *Komu: *audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net

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<mailto:audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net>

 *Predmet: *Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2 
Available.

 I'm not seeing translations of:

 "You have attempted to Export a WAV file which would be greater than 
4GB.\n"

 "Audacity cannot do this, the Export was abandoned."

 "Your exported WAV file has been truncated as Audacity cannot export WAV\n"

 "files bigger than 4GB."

 Could you check whether you did translate them?  Thanks.

 --James

 On 22/04/2019 16:09, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

  Hello. Please try this file.

  po 22. 4. 2019 o 16:44 James Crook  <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>   
<mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>  <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>   napísal(a):

  On 22/04/2019 15:00, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

  Hello, Excuse me. I am sending now .po file

  Please can you bring it up to date with the current POT file for 
2.3.2?

  "POT-Creation-Date: 2019-04-18 18:13+0100\n"

  You used a POT file with this date:

  "POT-Creation-Date: 2018-11-24 10:45+\n"

  There are more and changed strings to translate for 2.3.2.

  Thanks.

  --James.

  *Od: *James Crook  <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>   <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>  
<mailto:cro...@indigo.ie> <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>   <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>  
<mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>

  *Odoslané: *sobota 20. apríla 2019 19:38

  *Komu: *audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net

  *Predmet: *Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 
2.3.2

  Available.

  NOT committed.  You sent a .mo file, not a .po file.

  --James.

  On 20/04/2019 13:10, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

  Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:08 Janko Kinčeš  <mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com> 
  <mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>  <mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com> 
<mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>   <mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>  <mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>

  napísal(a):

  Hello. I sent you my finished files. Please try reuploading my

  attachments

  to server. I tried mo file in audacity and app is translated 
better. But

  still selecting audio device in drop down menu is not translated.

  Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:01 Yuri Chornoivan  <mailto:yurc...@ukr.net>   
<mailto:yurc...@ukr.net>  <mailto:yurc...@ukr.net> <mailto:yurc...@ukr.net>   
<mailto:yurc...@ukr.net>  <mailto:yurc...@ukr.net>   napísal(a):

  субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 14:52:44eestjanko.kinces...@gmail.com  
<mailto:eestjanko.kinces...@gmail.com>   <mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>  
<mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>

  написано:

  Hello. I downloaded po file but it is bugged out because i 
remember

  that

  i translated whole file. File look incomplete and translation is

  damaged.

  File say audacity 2.0.0. I wanted to translate slovak language for

  audacity

  The file is valid (at least it passes the msgfmt -vc check). 
Please try

  to

  download it once more.

  Do not mind about the version string. The file is for Audacity 
2.3.2.

  If you have your copy of the previous translation, please use the 
new

  catalog

  
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/audacity.pot

  to merge your results with the new catalog. This can be done with

Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2 Available.

[James Crook]

On 22/04/2019 21:46, janko.kinces...@gmail.com wrote:

I found po file on website
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/master/locale/sk.po It has these text
you need. But almost nothing is translated in it. I will have to translate it 
whole.


You can sync the audacity.pot file with your .po file, and just 
translate the strings you do not have already.


--James.






*Od: *James Crook <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>
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*Predmet: *Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2 Available.

I'm not seeing translations of:

"You have attempted to Export a WAV file which would be greater than 4GB.\n"
"Audacity cannot do this, the Export was abandoned."

"Your exported WAV file has been truncated as Audacity cannot export WAV\n"
"files bigger than 4GB."

Could you check whether you did translate them?  Thanks.

--James

On 22/04/2019 16:09, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

 Hello. Please try this file.

 po 22. 4. 2019 o 16:44 James Crook  
<mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>  napísal(a):

 On 22/04/2019 15:00, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

 Hello, Excuse me. I am sending now .po file

 Please can you bring it up to date with the current POT file for 2.3.2?

 "POT-Creation-Date: 2019-04-18 18:13+0100\n"

 You used a POT file with this date:

 "POT-Creation-Date: 2018-11-24 10:45+\n"

 There are more and changed strings to translate for 2.3.2.

 Thanks.

 --James.

 *Od: *James Crook  <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>  
  <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>

 *Odoslané: *sobota 20. apríla 2019 19:38

 *Komu: *audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net

 *Predmet: *Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2

 Available.

 NOT committed.  You sent a .mo file, not a .po file.

 --James.

 On 20/04/2019 13:10, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

 Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:08 Janko Kinčeš  
<mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>
<mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>

 napísal(a):

 Hello. I sent you my finished files. Please try reuploading my

 attachments

 to server. I tried mo file in audacity and app is translated better. 
But

 still selecting audio device in drop down menu is not translated.

 Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:01 Yuri Chornoivan  
<mailto:yurc...@ukr.net><mailto:yurc...@ukr.net>  napísal(a):

 субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 14:52:44 eestjanko.kinces...@gmail.com  
<mailto:janko.kinces...@gmail.com>

 написано:

 Hello. I downloaded po file but it is bugged out because i remember

 that

 i translated whole file. File look incomplete and translation is

 damaged.

 File say audacity 2.0.0. I wanted to translate slovak language for

 audacity

 The file is valid (at least it passes the msgfmt -vc check). Please try

 to

 download it once more.

 Do not mind about the version string. The file is for Audacity 2.3.2.

 If you have your copy of the previous translation, please use the new

 catalog

 https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/audacity.pot

 to merge your results with the new catalog. This can be done with

 poEdit,

 Lokalize or simple

 msgmerge -U yours_sk.po audacity.pot

 Hope this helps.

 Best regards,

 Yuri

 2.3.1. Od: Yuri Chornoivan

 Odoslané: sobota 20. apríla 2019 7:39

 Komu:audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net  
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 субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 01:35:18 EEST Janko Kinčeš написано:

 Hello. Could you send me link to slovak files to translate?

 Hi,

 This link please

 https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/sk.po

 Hope this helps.

 Best regards,

 Yuri

 Dňa št 18. 4. 2019, 19:53 James Crook  <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie> 
   <mailto:cro...@indigo.ie>  napísal(a):

 Audacity strings for 2.3.2 are ready for translation in updated

 Audacity.pot.

 Please, if there are questions about any new strings, ask here. The

 answers may be useful to everyone.

 Translation closes 9am Thursday May 2nd.

 --James

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I'm not seeing translations of:

"You have attempted to Export a WAV file which would be greater than 4GB.\n"
"Audacity cannot do this, the Export was abandoned."

"Your exported WAV file has been truncated as Audacity cannot export WAV\n"
"files bigger than 4GB."

Could you check whether you did translate them?  Thanks.

--James



On 22/04/2019 16:09, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

Hello. Please try this file.

po 22. 4. 2019 o 16:44 James Crook  napísal(a):


On 22/04/2019 15:00, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

Hello, Excuse me. I am sending now .po file


Please can you bring it up to date with the current POT file for 2.3.2?

"POT-Creation-Date: 2019-04-18 18:13+0100\n"

You used a POT file with this date:

"POT-Creation-Date: 2018-11-24 10:45+\n"


There are more and changed strings to translate for 2.3.2.
Thanks.

--James.



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Available.



NOT committed.  You sent a .mo file, not a .po file.

--James.



On 20/04/2019 13:10, Janko Kinčeš wrote:


Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:08 Janko Kinčeš  


napísal(a):

Hello. I sent you my finished files. Please try reuploading my

attachments


to server. I tried mo file in audacity and app is translated better. But

still selecting audio device in drop down menu is not translated.

Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:01 Yuri Chornoivan   
napísal(a):

субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 14:52:44 EEST janko.kinces...@gmail.com

написано:

Hello. I downloaded po file but it is bugged out because i remember

that


i translated whole file. File look incomplete and translation is

damaged.

File say audacity 2.0.0. I wanted to translate slovak language for

audacity

The file is valid (at least it passes the msgfmt -vc check). Please try

to

download it once more.

Do not mind about the version string. The file is for Audacity 2.3.2.

If you have your copy of the previous translation, please use the new

catalog

https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/audacity.pot

to merge your results with the new catalog. This can be done with

poEdit,


Lokalize or simple

msgmerge -U yours_sk.po audacity.pot

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Yuri

2.3.1. Od: Yuri Chornoivan

Odoslané: sobota 20. apríla 2019 7:39

Komu: audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net

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Available.

субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 01:35:18 EEST Janko Kinčeš написано:

Hello. Could you send me link to slovak files to translate?

Hi,

This link please

https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/sk.po

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Yuri

Dňa št 18. 4. 2019, 19:53 James Crook   
napísal(a):

Audacity strings for 2.3.2 are ready for translation in updated

Audacity.pot.

Please, if there are questions about any new strings, ask here. The

answers may be useful to everyone.

Translation closes 9am Thursday May 2nd.

--James

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Re: [Audacity-translation] (no subject)

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 22/04/2019 07:16, Nikitich wrote:

Hi,
I send you the upgraded Russian (ru.po) file for commit.
Thanks.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2 Available.

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On 22/04/2019 15:00, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

Hello, Excuse me. I am sending now .po file



Please can you bring it up to date with the current POT file for 2.3.2?

"POT-Creation-Date: 2019-04-18 18:13+0100\n"

You used a POT file with this date:

"POT-Creation-Date: 2018-11-24 10:45+\n"


There are more and changed strings to translate for 2.3.2.
Thanks.

--James.







*Od: *James Crook 
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*Komu: *audacity-translation@lists.sourceforge.net
*Predmet: *Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2
Available.



NOT committed.  You sent a .mo file, not a .po file.

--James.



On 20/04/2019 13:10, Janko Kinčeš wrote:


Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:08 Janko Kinčeš 
napísal(a):

Hello. I sent you my finished files. Please try reuploading my

attachments


to server. I tried mo file in audacity and app is translated better. But
still selecting audio device in drop down menu is not translated.
Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:01 Yuri Chornoivan  napísal(a):

субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 14:52:44 EEST janko.kinces...@gmail.com
написано:

Hello. I downloaded po file but it is bugged out because i remember

that


i translated whole file. File look incomplete and translation is

damaged.

File say audacity 2.0.0. I wanted to translate slovak language for

audacity
The file is valid (at least it passes the msgfmt -vc check). Please try
to
download it once more.
Do not mind about the version string. The file is for Audacity 2.3.2.
If you have your copy of the previous translation, please use the new
catalog
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/audacity.pot
to merge your results with the new catalog. This can be done with

poEdit,


Lokalize or simple
msgmerge -U yours_sk.po audacity.pot
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Yuri

2.3.1. Od: Yuri Chornoivan
Odoslané: sobota 20. apríla 2019 7:39
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Available.
субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 01:35:18 EEST Janko Kinčeš написано:

Hello. Could you send me link to slovak files to translate?

Hi,
This link please
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/sk.po
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Yuri

Dňa št 18. 4. 2019, 19:53 James Crook  napísal(a):

Audacity strings for 2.3.2 are ready for translation in updated
Audacity.pot.
Please, if there are questions about any new strings, ask here. The
answers may be useful to everyone.
Translation closes 9am Thursday May 2nd.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2 Available.

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NOT committed.  You sent a .mo file, not a .po file.
--James.

On 20/04/2019 13:10, Janko Kinčeš wrote:

Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:08 Janko Kinčeš 
napísal(a):


Hello. I sent you my finished files. Please try reuploading my attachments
to server. I tried mo file in audacity and app is translated better. But
still selecting audio device in drop down menu is not translated.

Dňa so 20. 4. 2019, 14:01 Yuri Chornoivan  napísal(a):


субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 14:52:44 EEST janko.kinces...@gmail.com
написано:

Hello. I downloaded po file but it is bugged out because i remember that
i translated whole file. File look incomplete and translation is

damaged.

File say audacity 2.0.0. I wanted to translate slovak language for

audacity

The file is valid (at least it passes the msgfmt -vc check). Please try
to
download it once more.

Do not mind about the version string. The file is for Audacity 2.3.2.

If you have your copy of the previous translation, please use the new
catalog

https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/audacity.pot

to merge your results with the new catalog. This can be done with poEdit,
Lokalize or simple

msgmerge -U yours_sk.po audacity.pot

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Yuri



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Odoslané: sobota 20. apríla 2019 7:39
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Available.

субота, 20 квітня 2019 р. 01:35:18 EEST Janko Kinčeš написано:

Hello. Could you send me link to slovak files to translate?


Hi,

This link please

https://github.com/audacity/audacity/raw/master/locale/sk.po

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Yuri



Dňa št 18. 4. 2019, 19:53 James Crook  napísal(a):

Audacity strings for 2.3.2 are ready for translation in updated
Audacity.pot.

Please, if there are questions about any new strings, ask here. The
answers may be useful to everyone.
Translation closes 9am Thursday May 2nd.

--James

(Release Manager for Audacity 2.3.2)







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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2 Available. (French)

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Thanks. Committed.

On 20/04/2019 14:52, Olivier Humbert wrote:

Done on github : https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/354

Olivier





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Re: [Audacity-translation] Update Italian translation

[James Crook]

Thanks for the update.
Committed.

On 19/04/2019 16:07, Michele Locati wrote:

I forgot to translate the fuzzy translations.

The attached file supersedes the previous one.

--
Michele

Il giorno ven 19 apr 2019 alle ore 15:45 James Crook
 ha scritto:

Thanks.  Committed.

On 19/04/2019 08:17, Michele Locati wrote:

See attached .po file (and .patch file for differences).

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity 2.3.2 German translation update

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Done.  Thanks for confirming.
--James.

On 19/04/2019 15:27, Joachim Huffer wrote:

Oh sorry, the ^^ characters are not intended and can be removed.
Sometimes this key is stuck on the keyboard of my laptop.

Am Fr., 19. Apr. 2019 um 15:45 Uhr schrieb James Crook :


Thanks

Committed.

Is this part as intended?
msgid "Midi IO"
msgstr "^^MIDI-EA"


--james.

On 19/04/2019 08:10, Joachim Huffer wrote:

Hi all,

attached is an updated de.po file containing all the latest 2.3.2 text
additions and changes.

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Ukrainian (uk) translation for Audacity 2.3.2

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 19/04/2019 13:59, Yuri Chornoivan wrote:

Hi,

Attached is an updated translation file for Ukrainian (uk) locale. The file is
tested for validity with msgfmt -vc.

Many thanks in advance for push it into the repo.

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Chinese (Simplified) translation for Audacity 2.3.2

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 19/04/2019 13:33, snowwolf1001 wrote:

Attached is the updated version of Chinese (Simplified), zh_CN translation
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Update Italian translation

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 19/04/2019 08:17, Michele Locati wrote:

See attached .po file (and .patch file for differences).

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Audacity 2.3.2 German translation update

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Thanks

Committed.

Is this part as intended?
msgid "Midi IO"
msgstr "^^MIDI-EA"


--james.

On 19/04/2019 08:10, Joachim Huffer wrote:

Hi all,

attached is an updated de.po file containing all the latest 2.3.2 text
additions and changes.

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Greek translation

[James Crook]

Thanks.  I made a mistake and was looking at the wrong file.  My apologies.
32-bit float is looking good now, and I will update in GitHub.
Thanks for a very speedy turn around!

--James.


On 19/04/2019 08:03, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ wrote:

The
- Select all audio, if selection required
- LAME MP3 Export Library
are not fuzzy in me,
and the translation is completed
I fixed the "32-bit float" issue and I' m resending the translation

Στις Παρ, 19 Απρ 2019 στις 9:31 π.μ., ο/η James Crook 
έγραψε:


Dmitris,

I'm seeing a few gaps in translation, I think for example strings that
still have 'fuzzy translation'.
Could you check and update these too? I saw these ones:

- Select all audio, if selection required
- LAME MP3 Export Library

Also please could you shorten the translation of this item a lot:
- αριθμός κινητής υποδιαστολής 32 δυαδικών

In English we have "32-bit float".  We don't have room in the panel to
the left of the waveform for "32-bit floating point number", so it
overflows into the waveform.

Thanks for your work on this!

--James.



On 19/04/2019 06:53, James Crook wrote:

Thank you.  Committed.

On 19/04/2019 06:34, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ wrote:

High,
I'm sending you the updated Greek translation.
Bye.






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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Greek translation

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Dmitris,

I'm seeing a few gaps in translation, I think for example strings that 
still have 'fuzzy translation'.

Could you check and update these too? I saw these ones:

- Select all audio, if selection required
- LAME MP3 Export Library

Also please could you shorten the translation of this item a lot:
- αριθμός κινητής υποδιαστολής 32 δυαδικών

In English we have "32-bit float".  We don't have room in the panel to 
the left of the waveform for "32-bit floating point number", so it 
overflows into the waveform.


Thanks for your work on this!

--James.



On 19/04/2019 06:53, James Crook wrote:

Thank you.  Committed.

On 19/04/2019 06:34, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ wrote:

High,
I'm sending you the updated Greek translation.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Greek translation

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Thank you.  Committed.

On 19/04/2019 06:34, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ wrote:

High,
I'm sending you the updated Greek translation.
Bye.




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[Audacity-translation] Audacity.pot for Audacity 2.3.2 Available.

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Audacity strings for 2.3.2 are ready for translation in updated 
Audacity.pot.


Please, if there are questions about any new strings, ask here. The 
answers may be useful to everyone.

Translation closes 9am Thursday May 2nd.

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Missing translations in .desktop file compared to *.po files

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Yuri...
This looks super.

This file will need patching for the string fetching:
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/master/locale/update_po_files.sh
use msgmerge as used in that script to collect Nyquist text, rather than 
create a desktop.po file?


I'm not sure currently which file to patch for the results.

Yes, we'd welcome a patch for this.

--James.


On 24/03/2019 14:27, Yuri Chornoivan wrote:Hi,

This does not need intltool/itstool/internatilsation tool, just a pure
gettext.

Extraction:

xgettext src/audacity.desktop.in -k -kName -kComment -kGenericName -o locale/
desktop.pot

Merge with the main file:

msgcat locale/*.pot > locale/audacity.pot
  
Cleanup:


rm locale/desktop.pot

Merging back the translations:

msgfmt --desktop --template=src/audacity.desktop.in -d locale -o src/
audacity.desktop

But before patching the build system... Will such a patch be considered at
all?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Best regards,
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[Audacity-translation] Audacity 2.3.1 released.

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Audacity 2.3.1 has been released.

Thanks to everyone who made it possible, especially QA and translators.

https://www.audacityteam.org/audacity-2-3-1-released/

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Upgraded European Portuguese translation

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Thanks.  Sorry that I missed it out earlier.  Committed.
--James.

On 21/12/2018 01:11, Bruno Ramalhete wrote:

Hi,

The file I sent you is still not commited. I fixed some bugs in the
pt_PT.po file.

I can send you the file here again.

Thanks.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] revised pt-br file

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Committed.  Thanks.

On 11/12/2018 13:53, Cleber Tavano wrote:

helllo there
Is there time left for a revised pt-br file? Only minor changes, but it
looks better now

Could you please commit?
Thanks :D
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Re: [Audacity-translation] File it.po updated

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Committed.  Thanks.

On 10/12/2018 09:16, Carmelo Battaglia wrote:

Submit file it.po updated.
But I noticed that some menu items even though they were translated, do not 
appear in the interface and remain the English language. Why?
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Upgraded European Portuguese translation

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Thanks Bruno.

On 05/12/2018 22:25, Bruno Ramalhete wrote:

Hi,

I found some bugs that I fixed and I edited some words in the European
Portuguese translation.

I send you the upgraded European Portuguese (pt_PT.po) file for commit.

Thanks. Best regards.

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Errors

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Nikitich, you've sent me 5 .po files in less than a week - and I feel 
this is wasting my time.
You also removed the credits for previous translators.  I had to put 
them back in.  Please don't do that either.


All the other translators are making good translations, without removing 
previous translator credits, and being a lot more helpful to making the 
translation process go smoothly.


These additional changes/fixes from you will this time have to wait for 
after 2.3.1.   Russian translation is now closed for 2.3.1.


--James.




On 04/12/2018 12:09, Nikitich wrote:

Hello James,
In testing I found 2 errors in the template audacity.pot:
Now:
#: src/import/ImportPCM.cpp
msgid ""
"Reading the files directly allows you to play or edit them almost"
"immediately. This is less safe than copying in, because you must retain the"
"files with their original names in their original locations.\n"
"Help > Diagnostics > Check Dependencies will show the original names and"
"locations of any files that you are reading directly.\n"
"\n"
"How do you want to import the current file(s)?"
msgstr ""
Must be:
#: src/import/ImportPCM.cpp
msgid ""
"Reading the files directly allows you to play or edit them almost"
"immediately.  This is less safe than copying in, because you must retain the"
"files with their original names in their original locations.\n"
"Help > Diagnostics > Check Dependencies will show the original names and"
"locations of any files that you are reading directly.\n"
"\n"
"How do you want to import the current file(s)?"
msgstr ""
--
Now:
#: src/menus/EditMenus.cpp
msgid ""
msgstr ""
Must be:
#: src/menus/EditMenus.cpp
msgid "Me"
msgstr ""
-
I send new fixed Russian translation file. Please commit it.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] (no subject)

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Committed.

On 04/12/2018 10:42, Nikitich wrote:

Hello James,
I fixed some mistypes.
I send you new updated and fixed Rassian translation.
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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Dutch translations for Audacity

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 01/12/2018 09:56, Thomas De Rocker wrote:

Hello

Updated Dutch translations from Transifex are attached!

Regards

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Re: [Audacity-translation] Updated Chinese (Simplified) Translation

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 30/11/2018 23:58, mkpoli wrote:

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Re: [Audacity-translation] GUI bug: Localized Audacity loses some access keys

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Thanks.

I think you've done 'best possible' in reporting.  I've logged it as a 
bug in our bug database and linked it to the forum post.  This bug won't 
be fixed for 2.3.1, but I would hope we will at least look at what we 
can do during 2.3.2.


Problems with translation are best reported here on this email list.  
However, in this case the screenshots really help a lot, and having the 
ones you took showing on the forum makes it easy to refer to them from 
the bug report - so thanks for doing that.


The bug report is now in our bug database at:

https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2043

--James.




On 30/11/2018 14:07, 森の子リスのミーコの大冒険 wrote:

Hi.
I found a minor inconvenience that some access keys get hidden at least in
Japanese.

I posted a topic about it on the alpha forum and Steve recommended me to
report it here, translation mailing list.
See the topic for details:
https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=68=102493
I hope it will be fixed.

P.S. I wonder how I should use the forum and this mailing list properly to
report localization issues.

Thanks,
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Re: [Audacity-translation] ru_fixed.po

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Thanks.  Committed.

On 30/11/2018 07:04, Nikitich wrote:

Hi James,
I fixed some more inaccuracies and mistakes.
I send fixed translation file. Attached. Please commit it.
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[Audacity-translation] da.po eu.po ja.po hi.po es.po committed

[James Crook]

Thank you translators for these recent updates and additions.

All five of the above language files have now been committed.


Update Japanese Translation, by Phroneris.
Update Hindi Translation, by Bashishtha Singh.
Update Spanish Translation, by Antonio Paniagua
Update Basque Translation, by Xabier Aramendi.
Update Danish Translation, by scootergrisen.


Thank you for your work on Audacity translation.

--James.


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