Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
gegen wrote: > Hoping someone is going to correct me on that one :) Well... not so much a correction but a possibility - which I haven't tried for Inguz. Have a look at... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip Just in case the URL doesn't link correctly... Code: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=%2Bsuccess+%2Bmusicip It's a method for getting MusicIP to run on a RaspberryPi and with modifications other ARM boards - I had it running well on XU4. MusicIP is like Inguz in that it's Intel only. I tried at one time to get Inguz running on an Intel machine with Ubuntu but couldn't get it to work. Maybe with a little work something similar to the MusicIP/ARM install will get Inguz to work on ARM. Bob PS I went from Ubuntu 16.04 on XU4 -> Windows 10 on Intel-NUC simply because of audio software availability. The Win 10 setup means I can use Inguz, MusicIP is much easier to use and is more flexible, and some audio software is only available for Windows. I found I was constantly switching between Ubuntu, macOS and Windows to do different things and it became a real pain! Its a shame because I like the XU4 and Ubuntu! 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
gegen wrote: > Hi bobertuk > Thanks those pages really helped. > Noticed you're using an XU4 with ubuntu 16.04, same here, would love to > get inguz running on that setup but haven't had much luck. Did you > manage to get it working on the XU4? > I got the plugin installed with the web page control working and file > types in LMS showing inguz but no sound unfortunately, I had assumed it > might be because of the arm processor. Hi gegen, Glad the pages helped. I tried getting Inguz to work on XU4 but like you could never get it going properly. I went on to try out Brutefir and got EQ working but could never get Room Correction working. In the end I went over to Intel-NUC with Windows 10 and Inguz works as intended with a few restrictions but nothing that prevents full use. 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
If anyone is interested attached is a zip file containing all of the Inguz web site pages and content from 2015 which I downloaded it from the 'Wayback Machine' one page at a time. The page URL links don't link through to the other pages so each page needs to be looked at individually but it may be useful. 23649 Bob +---+ |Filename: Inguz Web Site.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23649| +---+ 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel-NUC server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Windows 10 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/squeezelite running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM NAC 72 Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
I've found a fix for the 'Save Preset' button... Replace Inguz plugin 'index.html' line 592 with... Code: original index.html line 592 Code: If you run Inguz on a Windows PC (Windows 10 in my case) you can activate all the up/down buttons in iexplorer 11 by first running LMS, then press F12 ((Developer Tools), then just close down the developer tools window. All the up/down buttons should then work correctly. I have also found meanings of some of the Inguz settings... Quietness: "Quietness" is "loudness". Quietness zero means "flat"; quietness 10 means a loudness-curve EQ that boosts the bass and treble. This is a very subtle loudness control compared with some. Also there's a fundamental limitation to this architecture where your loudness change might not take effect for many seconds, due to the SB's buffering. Width: "Width" controls the stereo image width, by up to +/- 6dB (-6 is not mono). Note that increasing the width doesn't apply crossfeed to spread the image beyond the speakers, it just attenuates the middle compared with the side. Flatness: "Flatness": DRC creates a correction filter against its target curve (flat, by default), but often a flat target can sound thin and, well, flat. So my flatness filter looks at the frequency response of the correction filter and inverts it, over ten steps; theoretically so that with flatness=0 the in-room response is relatively unchanged from the uncorrected version (correcting for phase and reflections but not correcting peaks), and with flatness=10 the in-room response should be really quite flat.. Flatness 10 should give the "flat" in-room response. Skew: The Inguz skew control should be set to compensate for any discrepancy in the straight-line distance from tweeter to ear. At 44.1kHz sampling rate this equates to 22.68s of time delay per sample or about a third of an inch (7.7mm) of distance. This is ONLY true at this one sampling rate, so if you play material at different rates it only works for some of them. Enhanced Stereo Filter: Can be used: "To increase spatial separation between channels. The various Space filters broaden the stereo image in a normal system to well beyond the loudspeaker positions, enhancing the they are here feeling. I've been experimenting with Inguz quite a lot but I can't find any of the 'Enhanced Stereo Filter' files. Does anyone have copies of them stored anywhere? If so, would it be possible for you to PM them to me or attach them here. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirrunna wrote:
> Bob and John,
> ...
>
> In an earlier life I spent 10 years writing IBM Assembler, so I had a
> look at the plugin code in
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\Plugins\InguzEQ,
> strings.txt contains the character string that appears on the Inguz
> screen with each string's variable name, so
>
> PLUGIN_INGUZEQ_SAVEPRESETFILE EN Save current settings as:
>
> is what to look for in Plugin.pm - while that is easy to find I
> couldn't work out what drew the clickable box.
Wirrunna,
I remembered reading something on the forum years ago about this so I
looked back at some of the old Inguz threads. Phil Leigh (where has he
gone!) mentioned this way back in 2011. He refers to an edit in the
Inguz plugin 'index.html' code to correct the clickable box. He attached
the corrected file to one of his posts but it was so long ago that the
attachment has been archived off.
Does that help? I took a look at the file and there's what I think is an
HTML commented line and an associated function. The code starts at line
#155 and is as follows but in copying here indents are lost...
// Save-As Preset
function savp(el)
{
if(!el) return;
var sType = el.id.substr(el.id.indexOf("_")+1);
var sval = "";
var ctrl = document.getElementById("edt_"+sType);
if( ctrl )
{
sval = ctrl.value;
}
var setfn = "Set" + sType;
if(typeof(_model[setfn])=="function")
{
_model[setfn]( sval, true, function(bOK){highlightSetting(el,
bOK)}
);
}
}
To me the code is almost meaningless so I'm of no help but you may find
something. Phil Leigh did!
Bob
1 x Touch
1 x Radio
1 x Boom
1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04
1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Does anyone know what the various Inguz settings are for? There are obvious ones of course, EQ and Balance for instance. But others are not so obvious and most of the Inguz website isn't accessible so it isn't possible to gather the information from there. JohnB was kind enough to explain what 'Flatness' is for. So, what are the following for and/or what do they do? Any others that you know of? Quietness Width Enhanced Stereo Skew Ambisonic Decoder Ambisonic Rotation Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirrunna, I found the "|" earlier and discovered that it saved the profile. In my attempts to get the graphical EQ display working I discovered a Silverlight installer for Mac - silverlight needs activating through Safari security preferences. That got the EQ display working and the save button appeared in place of "|" on the latest LMS 7.91 nightly. I have an old desktop PC running with Windows 10 installed and found the same on that with Safari. Thank you for looking at the Inguz code. The problem I have at the moment is that I can't get the up/down buttons working - some do some don't. I'm sure it's an issue with the HTML code but my coding skills are poor to say the least. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Wirrunna, tried looking at the YouTube video but it doesn't seem to exist anymore :( I managed to find IE on Windows 10 as well and as long as silverlight is installed, as you say the graphical display is there. I have iPhone 6 with iPeng but can't find any way to use it to set up EQ or to save anything. Any ideas? John, I'm going to have a closer look at REW to see if there is any way to export RC and import into Inguz. What file type does Inguz require, .wav, .pcm or what? And what folder does that file go into? I don't really want to spend out on Audiolense or Acourate without knowing that I can actually get a RC file into Inguz and establish that it works; i.e. that it does indeed change the character of the sound. 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
John & Wirrunna Using Johns commented instructions I have Inguz working on an Intel-NUC which seems to have more than enough CPU power to run Inguz. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. John, I just followed your instructions to the letter, apart from having to modify permissions a little. The biggest problem was getting the EQ GUI working - initially I tried installing a silverlight lookalike for Linux called 'pipelight' in the hope of being able to get the GUI running direct in a web browser on Ubuntu. No luck, just couldn't get it to run in either Chrome or Firefox. So I downloaded silverlight for Mac and after activating it in Safari it works fine - well, the GUI anyway - connecting through Safari to the NUC on port 9000 is all that's needed. The adjusters (up and down buttons) for EQ work but most of the other adjusters, e.g. 'Quietness', do nothing. I seem to remember reading about this problem years ago and if I recall correctly, it was something to do with the version of silverlight being used, an earlier version being required. Could get it functioning on Windows 10 with IE and Safari (but not Edge) but still the same issue with the adjuster buttons. I seem to recall there was a way of getting those buttons to work but for the life of me I can't remember how. I get sound out of the speakers and changes to EQ changes the sound produced so in principle it's working. Except I don't have a clue how to get room correction up and running. I have REW and a USB calibrated microphone but don't know what file types to export from REW or where to put them in Inguz. I know that information was on the Inguz website but it's no longer accessible. There's a whole raft of threads on this forum about Inguz and I'm sure the information could be sifted out but I'd be grateful for any help here. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB wrote: > Sure, I'll do that - but first I need to hunt out my notes and make sure > that they make sense (you know how it is when you write notes for your > own benefit). It will take a day or so. Thank you. No problem about how long it takes. > > Are you hoping to use it for DRC or for Equalization? (I use it for DRC > and have only used the Equalization to test things are working.) > I intend to try using Inguz for DRC and equalisation if I can get it to work. > > There are a few things worth pointing out: > > - I see from your signature that you are using Ubuntu 16.04. My > understanding is that this uses Perl 5.22. The InguzEQ plugin.pm uses a > deprecated expression at one point and that will probably cause fatal > error with Perl 5.22 or higher. It only gives a warning on earlier > versions of Perl (I am using Perl 5.18 and it works "as is"). The > correction is quite simple (fingers crossed) - see my recent post on the > subject in the Developers section of the forum. (No, I am certainly not > a developer!) > Yes, with this version of Ubuntu Perl 5.22 is used. I'll take a look in the developers forum now to see what needs changing. > > - If you are using the Web Interface on a PC, the Inguz control panel > doesn't work in Firefox but is fine in IE. I use iPeng on an iPad to > control Inguz, and that works reasonably OK. So, I'm not sure how things > will appear with any particular browser on your Ubuntu machine. (As my > Ubuntu server is headless, on the rare occasions I need to use the Web > Interface I use IE on my Windows PC to access the Ubuntu LMS.) > I generally use Chrome or Safari but I'll try out IE if neither of those work. > > - You might want to edit the Inguz custom-convert.conf file at some > point, say to add a mp4 section or to correct the outdated ALAC section, > etc. I mostly use flac and occasionally mp3 but I'll keep this in mind. Thank you for replying and your time in looking out your notes. It's much appreciated. Bob 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
JohnB wrote: > The download pages for InguzEQ and InguzDSP are still there (you need > both), but there aren't any links to them from the front page. > > InguzEQ: http://inguzaudio.com/EQ/download.php > InguzDSP: http://inguzaudio.com/DSP/download.php > > BUT, the installation instruction pages are not accessible. This is a > major problem as the installation procedure is critical. > > A few years ago I successfully installed Inguz on both a Windows 7 PC > and on Ubuntu Server > > I made my own copy of Hugh Pyle's instructions for installation on > linux. The instructions were slightly out of date, so I amended my copy > as I installed Inguz on Ubuntu. > > As I remember the Windows installation instructions were much simpler, > though by no means obvious. (I think I can remember them well enough to > install Inguz on Windows). > > By the way, an earlier post suggests that there is a need of a revised > plugin.pm to make Inguz work. That was the case at one time but the > installation files I downloaded worked fine without any tweaks. I think > Hugh Pyle had updated plugin.pm to deal with the Perl code that had been > deprecated. > > There are a few issues with Inguz - most of which have a work-around - > but I won't go into that now (probably too much information). Hi John, I'd like to install Inguz onto Ubuntu (on an Intel machine) so your amended instructions would be invaluable. Is it possible you could send me a copy? 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
The Inguz website http://inguzaudio.com is partially down and seems to have been like that for some months. The front page is still there but when trying to drill down to the installation pages there are only errors. Does anyone know of any other way to access the full site? 1 x Touch 1 x Radio 1 x Boom 1 x Intel- NUC server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 1 X Odroid-XU4 server/player running LMS 7.91 on Ubuntu 16.04 WaveIO USB into Lavry DA-10 DAC Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
adamdea wrote: Triode thank you for your sterling efforts to provide something tangible and useful namely usb and 192 output capability I'm afraid that getting involved in any discussion about subjective improvements in this area is inevitably going to get you into intractable exchanges from beyond the frontiers of reason. This forum has already seen the rise and fall of certain cults with similar leadership Why would anyone want to use a usb to spdif converter from a device with S/PDIF? If you wish to retain your sanity I would recommend liberal use of the ignore button. Do not attempt to get into a pissing competition with a skunk. Or to put it another way: Bad Company is like a disease/who lies with dogs shall rise with fleas Sorry - couldn't resist. A simple :) will suffice as a sign of full agreement with your comments. Bob bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
tonyptony wrote: Does anyone know if Inguz uses the alsa plugin layer or the jive_alsa process? It would be unfortunate if this interesting new app is not able to run with Inguz in line. I'll have to try it out and see. I've been using Phil Leighs 'custom-convert.conf' for Inguz which uses 'sox' to upsample all 44.1k audio to 96k. I modified his 'custom-convert.conf' to upsample everything to 192k and everything is working well. Inguz is upsampling to 24/192k and my DAC is receiving audio as 24/192k. So in short - yes, Inguz works with Triodes EDO app. Bob bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind listening - TT3.0, HWmods and Teddy Pardo PSU
magiccarpetride wrote: Double blind listening tests are tricky at best because they tend to deliver a lot, and I mean a lot of false positives. There are well documented cases where sufficiently large population of double blind testers were reporting significant differences in the sound quality while in reality the experimenters were merely playing an identical configuration over and over and over. Funny how human psyche functions. Highly unreliable. With true 'Double Blind' trials the experimenters would not know what was being analysed (played) either - that would be done by a third and independent party. A statistically significant number of tests would have to be carried out and statistical analysis applied to determine the probability that a significant result (positive or negative) had been achieved. This is provided by using a confidence scale or in medicine a p-value. The statistical analysis can be very complex. Bob bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94418 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SBT source.. or rather the pc with the data is the source..
ralphpnj;696578 Wrote: Well at least the OP has the decency to explain everything you need to know in his user name: Deaf Cat Try using a liquid cooled PC instead of an air cooled PC - the sound is much more. ...fluid vs airy? :) -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94199 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Hi Phil (Leigh), I don't know if you are still reading this thread but if you are I'd like to ask you a question. I had a go at getting Inguz up and running on a QNAP NAS but after a long time trying gave up. I got partway there but InguzDSP.exe doesn't seem to like the QNAP environment. So I decided to over to switch over to a low energy Windows 7 based system and got Inguz running easily using your modified files. It works a treat and Windows gives me direct access to lots of other Windows goodies like MP3tag as well. The question... I find that the first or second track played each day (after a daily Win7 reboot) does a lot of re-buffering. After that one track though, all following tracks play without a hitch. Is this something you've observed with windows? I'm using LMS/Inguz/SugarCube, the windows machine has been tuned to give priority to background tasks and other than things like AV, VNC nothing else is running. I've also un-installed all the retailer kak' and stopped non essential services. Thanks Bob P.S. Have you noticed that Inguz for Windows has recently been updated to v0.93? -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $30, 000 audio power cable introduced
At that price it needs to be a superconductor with a lifetimes supply of cryogenic Helium :) -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91896 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $30, 000 audio power cable introduced
Fahzz;673066 Wrote: So is it $3 each or per pair? I need to know before I talk to the bank... For a 5M length... -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91896 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Phil, Presumably you use 2x 'Startech 10/100 Ethernet To Multi Mode Fiber Media'. One at router end connected by fibre to another at Touch end with short UTP cables. i.e. Router---UTP---Startech---Fiber---Startech---UTP---Touch Or is it simpler than that? Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Hi Klaus, F.Y.I. You probably won't recall my earlier post in this thread about buffering issues with 24bit/96kHz flac files when using TT3.0 - I tried lots of increments to the buffer setting from 3400 - 1 with no difference on any of the settings. Playback was continually interrupted by the Touch needing to re-buffer. I eventually tracked the problem down - it was a network issue. I had been using a BT HomeHub 3 (UK only DSL/ADSL+ wireless router). For various reasons, I thought there were other issues with the HomeHub and decided to change it for a Netgear WNDR4500. Problems with 24bit/96kHz cleared immediately. So... if anyone in the UK using a BT HomeHub 3 is having issues with TT3.0, that could well be the problem. Hope this is helpful info. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
praganj;670284 Wrote: The best way to avoid some network problems caused by strange routers is to use one small dedicated switch for SBS-SBT connection. Small 4-5 ports switches are so cheap, you don't need a Gigabit switch, 100MBits is enough. :) I have been using a Gbit switch close to the Touch for some time. I kind of agree with Phil - that the TT buffer shouldn't cause network issues. Maybe the Homehub was only just coping with 24/96 - I have had other problems with it (homehub) stalling on internet and/or networking so requiring a fairly frequent reboot. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Hi Klaus, I definitely have a problem with TT3.0 and hi-res audio files! The Touch stops playing and waits to refill the buffer quite frequently and I have so far tried setting the buffer to 8000 with no improvement. After increasing it by 200's and getting to 4000, I increased at 500 each time. This was after a complete Touch 'Restore Factory Settings'. Any suggestions? Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
evdplancke;668272 Wrote: I have had a similar problem when trying to transcode to MP3 to SqueezePlay on my Samsung Ace smartphone: my Synology NAS was using about 97% CPU for LAME transcoding and the remaining throughput for streaming was so ridiculously low that the playback buffer got empty every few seconds. After disabling MP3 transcoding for SqueezePlay, everything was playing smoothly again. Maybe the transcoding has been set on by accident for your SBT. Look at Player/Audio settings for your SBT and check that no rate limit has been set (please refer to TT3.0 server installation for correct settings). Though this has nothing to do with TT3.0 anyway. Otherwize you may also have a look at your CPU resources to check whether any process is consuming too much CPU. This may help to find the issue. Hopefully this helps! Checked for rate limiting on Touch - it's set to no rate limiting. Server CPU occasionally spikes to 24% but is mostly under 4% with hi-res files. Thanks for your help. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
I never used TT2.0 - it just seemed to much of an effort! TT3.0 is much simpler to use so I took the plunge and tried it out. Like many mods that can be carried out through the 'sound chain' (from source -- speakers), it does make a difference to the reproduced sound. Often if there are any changes at all, it's just different - neither good nor bad - simply different. I have to say that TT3.0 doesn't just make my system sound different, it does make it sound better! Without relying on audiophile superlatives, it feels 'more here, more alive'. My pet love is the bass end and that sounds significantly better as well. I hate all the audiophile 'smoke and mirrors' and generally take no notice of them - in fact from experience I usually give them a wide berth. This was so easy to do though that it was worth a try even if only to say it was again just an audiophool mod (like mega £ cables and interconnects). For me TT3.0 works - I don't know why but it does! I've kept the screen on, IR on and don't use tt -k to kill active daemons - some of us need the flexibility! Thank you Klaus for something that really seems to work. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Klaus, Is there any interaction between TT3.0 and 24bit/96KHz flac files? I suddenly can't play them any more - the only recent changes to my system are that I have started using TT3.0 and have updated to LMS 7.7.1 nightly. If I change Touch 'file types' for flac - native it works. It does mean that transcoding is carried out by the touch though! Could be the recent LMS 7.7.1 nightly I suppose! Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
soundcheck;668046 Wrote: Just as a reminder. If you load regularly nightly builds, make sure that you wipe the plate prior to it. You push the black button on the back 5s. Just a minor upgrade might leave some dead bodies around. You don't want that to happen. ;) That was it :) Need to reset Touch reinstall TT3.0 after LMS ( presumably SbS) update. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.7.1 - SSOTS v4.14 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.5.1 build 1002T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection
Phil Leigh;661442 Wrote: Could be - if you are using coax, 1.5m is the generally-accepted minimum length :-) There is no length issue with good quality Toslink cables. Good Quality does not mean it costs thousands... Hi Phil, Out of interest, what makes of Toslink cable would be considered good quality without costing 'thousands'. This is a genuine question - not a troll. I have only ever bought £5 - £10 cables and don't want to find out the hard way that more expensive cables are no better :) Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90211 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection
Phil Leigh;661455 Wrote: Bob, I'm no expert but I've found that Van Den Hul Optocoupler Mkii is available at reasonable prices in the UK - I think it is circa £65 new but I bought a perfect used one from eBay recently for £20 inc postage - bargain! If you can get one for £20-£30 I'd say it was worth it. Thanks Phil, I'll give one a go if I can find a used one. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90211 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1900 euros + tax for digital upgrade and power supply for Duet
captaink;654070 Wrote: Seems a bit steep? http://lampizator.eu/szop/szopproducts/LZ-TRANSPORT/Lampizator%20transport.html A bit steep yes - and some diabolical solder work as a free gift by the looks of it! -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90022 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
magiccarpetride;651974 Wrote: No, I'm not rebooting. I thought that the change takes effect instantly, as I'm getting an immediate feedback in the console informing me that the FIFO is modified the moment I presse the Return key. If I need to reboot, then I don't see why not make the change in the rcS file itself? Same difference, eh? If you enter each command manually at the touch command-line it will take effect immediately. If you want it to survive a Touch reboot - e.g. a firmware update - it will need to be written into the Touch rcS file as well. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
I made the changes 'stick' by using a combination of lintweakers changes to rcS and suggestions made by JohnSwenson. 1. Add the following to the basic rcS script immediately before the call to run squeezeplay (i.e. near the end of file): # Call file 'SB_priority' to set all audio priorities # by ensuring squeezeplay is fully initialised first /etc/init.d/SB_priority 2. Create a new file - 'SB_priority' - in the same directory as rcS and use the following script: #!/bin/sh sleep 100 # Set audio thread priorities # === # Get IRQ for RTC tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep mxc_rtc|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` # Get proc # for RTC rtc=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` # Get IRQ of SPDIF I/F tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep spdif|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` # Get proc # for SPDIF spdif=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` # Get proces number for audio threads aud1=`ps -e|grep sirq-timer/0|cut -f5 -d ` aud2=`ps -e|grep sirq-hrtimer/0|cut -f4 -d ` # Get process number for jive_alsa 'music' jalsa1=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d default|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` # Get process number for jive_alsa 'sound effects' jalsa2=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d plughw|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` # Set new priorities chrt -f -p 91 $aud1 /dev/null chrt -f -p 93 $aud2 /dev/null chrt -f -p 44 $spdif /dev/null chrt -f -p 87 $rtc /dev/null # check the new priorities with: # ps -eLo pid,cls,rtprio,pri,nice,cmd | grep -i irq # check all priorities with: # ps -eLo pid,cls,rtprio,pri,nice,cmd # Set jive_alsa priority jalsa1=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d default|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` chrt -f -p 55 $jalsa1 /dev/null # sound effects only xx jasla2=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d plughw|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` 3. Make sure SB_priority is executable: chmod 777 SB_priority Doing it this way is probably more robust and does work. Obviously use your own preferred values in each 'chrt -f -p xx $xxx' setting. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
rgro;652163 Wrote: Bobcan I correctly assume that if I've got the sound effects turned off (per Soundcheck's mods), that it is not necessary to include the code for both retrieving and setting the jive_alsa sound effects? Or would omitting that code screw something up? Rick, The check for jive_alsa 'sound effects' was just to help sort out which was the correct jive_alsa in the first place. As long as you leave in the code for finding and setting 'jive_alsa audio', the code for sound effects can be left out. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
The end of my rcS file looks like this and I get no errors... # Start Samba #if [ -x /etc/init.d/samba ]; then # /etc/init.d/samba start #fi # Call file 'SB_priority' to set all audio priorities # by ensuring squeezeplay is fully initialised first /etc/init.d/SB_priority # Start squeezeplay /etc/init.d/squeezeplay start I've only commented out the block beginning '# Start Samba' myself. Yours may not be commented out - it's OK either way! You also need to change file access permissions at the command line before rebooting. Use... chmod 777 /etc/init.d/SB_priority Does that help? Bob P.S. the '' at the end of '/etc/init.d/SB_priority ' causes the file SB_priority to run as a separate and independent process (a background task). It will not stop rcS from running - squeezeplay will still initialize and SB_priority will run in the background waiting for 100 secs before it executes it's commands. -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Hi Rick, You only have to type the 'chmod' command once before the first reboot. It changes the file attributes permanently. If you type the following at the command line: ls -l /etc/init.d/SB_priority It should return: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1311 Aug 23 12:42 /etc/init.d/SB_priority (-rwxr-xr-x shows that the file has full access rights where x = the executable flag) If you use the following command 2 - 3 mins after a reboot you will be able to see if the new settings have stuck: ps -eLo pid,cls,rtprio,pri,nice,cmd Look for process numbers (pid) 5, 11, 367, 407 in the late 600's - early 700's - my jive_alsa pid has varied between 679, 718 or 719 far :). But that's why the check to find the correct one is carried out. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
tlicht;651388 Wrote: Being new to this forum, I'll try not to make a complete fool of myself... but I recently upgraded from SBD to SBT and noticed an improvement. Then I found the Toolbox2 mod and applied it except the WLAN (since I use it) and the screen parts and have only the digital out enabled. Maybe I could hear a slight improvment... Then I found Dynobot's ALSA Real-Time tweaks and applied them - I am sorry, I really cannot hear any difference even changing the spdif priority back and forth with jive_alsa priority set to 55 or 45. I imagine that I applied the mods/tweaks 'according to the book' and seem to get the expected responses from Putty/SBT when issuing commands... BTW my pid for jive_alsa is varying, seems to change when the SBT is restarted - the other pids are the same as everybody else's Maybe my equipment is too poor - or too good I have: SBT spdif -Supra Trico Coax - Audio-gd NFB-3 - Linn black interconnects - Majik-I (just as preamp) - 2xLK100 - Active Keilidhs /Thomas I think it's normal for the jive_alsa pid to vary - mine seems be either 718 or 719. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
lintweaker;649299 Wrote: I've been using the tweaks on my touches with great success and decided to contribute a bit myself. In case the IRQ's, process numbers etc. change you can use a more dynamic version I hacked together (It is not fool proof!): To test it out by hand just copy and paste the following into a ssh session with the touch: === begin code === # Get IRQ for RTC tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep mxc_rtc|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` echo -n RTC IRQ is $tmp # Get proc # for RTC rtc=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` echo , process #: $rtc # Get IRQ of SPDIF I/F tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep spdif|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` echo -n SPDIF IRQ is $tmp # Get proc # for SPDIF spdif=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` echo , proces # $spdif # Get proces number for audio threads aud1=`ps -e|grep sirq-hrtimer/0|cut -f4 -d ` echo Proces nummber for sirq-hrtimer/0: $aud1 aud2=`ps -e|grep sirq-timer/0|cut -f5 -d ` echo Proces nummber for sirq-timer/0: $aud2 echo Setting new priorities.. chrt -f -p 93 $aud1 chrt -f -p 91 $aud2 chrt -f -p 59 $spdif chrt -f -p 87 $rtc === end code === I you want you can add a more quiet version straight to etc/init.d/rcS: === start code === # Get IRQ for RTC tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep mxc_rtc|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` # Get proc # for RTC rtc=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` # Get IRQ of SPDIF I/F tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep spdif|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` # Get proc # for SPDIF spdif=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` # Get proces number for audio threads aud1=`ps -e|grep sirq-hrtimer/0|cut -f4 -d ` aud2=`ps -e|grep sirq-timer/0|cut -f5 -d ` # Set new priorities chrt -f -p 93 $aud1 /dev/null chrt -f -p 91 $aud2 /dev/null chrt -f -p 59 $spdif /dev/null chrt -f -p 87 $rtc /dev/null === end code === Hi lintweaker, I successfully use your code to set the 4 new priorities and tried to add another for jive_alsa. The original 4 still set but I can't get jive_alsa to set to a new priority. It works if I use the code at the command line though. Any suggestions? == Start code == #Change priorities # Get IRQ for RTC tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep mxc_rtc|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` # Get proc # for RTC rtc=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` # Get IRQ of SPDIF I/F tmp=`cat /proc/interrupts |grep spdif|cut -f2 -d |cut -f1 -d:` # Get proc # for SPDIF spdif=`ps -e|grep IRQ-$tmp|cut -f3 -d ` # Get proces number for audio threads aud1=`ps -e|grep sirq-timer/0|cut -f5 -d ` aud2=`ps -e|grep sirq-hrtimer/0|cut -f4 -d ` # Get process number for jive_alsa 'music' jalsa1=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d default|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` # Get process number for jive_alsa 'sound effects' - not used but a possibility! jalsa2=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d plughw|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` # Set new priorities chrt -f -p 91 $aud1 /dev/null chrt -f -p 93 $aud2 /dev/null chrt -f -p 44 $spdif /dev/null chrt -f -p 87 $rtc /dev/null chrt -f -p 55 $jalsa1 /dev/null == End code == Thanks Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
I added the following script to rcS for jive_alsa... # Get process number for jive_alsa 'music' jalsa1=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d default|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` # Get process number for jive_alsa 'sound effects' jalsa2=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d plughw|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` # Set new prioritiy chrt -f -p 55 $jalsa1 /dev/null How can I check that the change has been applied? I included both jive_alsa's to make it easier to change if I use the wrong one. Thanks Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
RotelMan;650539 Wrote: It did not work for me... still have to write chrt -f -p 55 7xx (xx for process id) after reboot :-( Same here :( I've checked the code manually by entering them at the command line and it works. i.e. jalsa1=`ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d default|head -1|cut -f3 -d ` chrt -f -p 55 $jalsa1 BUT - when included in the rcS script it doesn't work. Ideas anyone? Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
JohnSwenson;650337 Wrote: Normally the Touch has two jive_alsa processes, one for the sound effects (beeps, blips etc), and one for the music outputs, it handles both analog outs and digital outs. The music one will have a -d default in its command line, the effects one has a -d plughw:2,0. When you use TT2.0 the effects process is disabled and both the effects and music are routed to the same jive_alsa process (which is why its imperitive to turn off sound effects when using TT2.0). You do have to be careful with the process numbers, they can change. Up this thread a ways someone posted a varient of the script which determines on the fly what the process numbers are, you just need to add detection of the correct jive_alsa thread to this script. John S. When we have found the correct jive alsa thread (pid), how do we make the change? Is it: chrt -f -p 55 pid or something else? Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Hi all, I seem to have most of Inguz working now using Phils' Plugin.pm but I'm getting no sound at all when setting flac filetype to flac/sox. The errors I was getting in the Inguz 'error' file are resolved and there is nothing in log.text (I guess because no files are playing). The only error in the SbS log are: 8878: /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Bin/i386-linux/sox FAIL sox: `-' error writing output file: Broken pipe - this repeats every time I try playing something - which suggests it's purely a sox error at this stage. Any help appreciated... Phil... where are you :) TIA Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Phil Leigh;631584 Wrote:
can you paste the contents of your custom-convert.conf file from the
inguz folder here?
Code:
# Modified by InguzEQ, Mon May 16 12:49:28 2011:
# Modified by InguzEQ, Mon May 16 12:49:14 2011: Client f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b was
not yet registered
# Modified by InguzEQ, Mon May 16 12:42:38 2011: New configuration
# #inguzeq#begin#rev:0.9.30#client:00:04:20:22:07:40# * BEGIN
AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED SECTION - DO NOT EDIT
flc flc * 00:04:20:22:07:40
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 96k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:07:40 -wav -wavo
-d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
flc flc transcode 00:04:20:22:07:40
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 96k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:07:40 -wav -wavo
-d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
mp3 flc * 00:04:20:22:07:40
# IFT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[lame] --mp3input --decode --silent $FILE$ - - | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t
wav - -t wav -C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:07:40
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
wma flc * 00:04:20:22:07:40
# FT:{PATH=%f}R:{PATH=%F}
[wmadec] -w $PATH$ | [[InguzDSP]] -id 00:04:20:22:07:40 -wavo -d 24 |
[flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
aac flc * 00:04:20:22:07:40
# IFT
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id 00:04:20:22:07:40 -wav
-wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
# #inguzeq#end#client:00:04:20:22:07:40# * END AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED
SECTION - DO NOT EDIT *
# #inguzeq#begin#rev:0.9.30#client:f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b# * BEGIN
AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED SECTION - DO NOT EDIT
flc flc * f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 96k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [InguzDSP] -id f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b -wav -wavo
-d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
flc flc transcode f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 96k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [InguzDSP] -id f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b -wav -wavo
-d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
mp3 flc * f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b
# IFT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[lame] --mp3input --decode --silent $FILE$ - - | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t
wav - -t wav -C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [InguzDSP] -id f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
wma flc * f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b
# FT:{PATH=%f}R:{PATH=%F}
[wmadec] -w $PATH$ | [[InguzDSP]] -id f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b -wavo -d 24 |
[flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
aac flc * f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b
# IFT
[faad] -q -w -f 1 $FILE$ | [InguzDSP] -id f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b -wav
-wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
# #inguzeq#end#client:f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b# * END AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED
SECTION - DO NOT EDIT *
--
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1 x Radio
1 x Boom
Lavry DA-10 DAC
QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T
Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM
Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp
Behringer DEQ2496
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Phil, I've edited custom-convert.conf Plugin.pm - same error and still nothing in error or log.txt. Been searching internet for another binary version of sox but can't find one so far. Currently have sox v14.3.0 - can't even find an earlier version :( Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Phil Leigh;631624 Wrote: OK - sounds like you have the correct version of SOX. Are you sure your MAC addresses are correct? I see a player: f0:b4:79:4e:94:0b - all my SB devices and your other players start 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx - is that a software player or non-SB hardware? Don't think that would cause the broken pipe error... I'll keep investigating... Thanks Phil. The only player of interest at the moment is 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx - I'll delete the entry for the other one anyway. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cat5 or not ?
Why not run cat6 instead? You don't need it at the moment but if you're laying it in the walls it will provide much higher ethernet speeds in future - it's inevitable that speeds will increase. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87567 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Hi all, Has anyone managed to get Inguz running and working with Linux on SbS 7.6/Touch? I use a QNAP TS-509 NAS which should have the horsepower. It's installed up to a point! The SbS 'Home/EQ' WebUI is functioning - including the EQ graphic display and I can modify, save and recall new EQ settings. In SBS/Settings/File types, I can set flac/InguzDSP as well. But... with filetypes set to flac/InguzDSP, the Touch produces an error 'Can't open file for: track name' and nothing plays. I've used the Inguz native files and Phil Leighs' modified files but the result is the same. Suggestions anyone? In common with most others, selecting Settings/Plugins/EQ in the WebUI doesn't do much. After several minutes it errors with 'Can't initialise silverlight', then brings up a page with no EQ graph but with the buttons intact. The buttons do nothing though! Something else notable is that running the WebUI on Firefox or Safari on a MAC some of the 'up' buttons do nothing. In IE8 they all work as expected. -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Phil Leigh;611555 Wrote: I've noticed the up button problem too - I've stared and stared at the code but can't see what the problem is. Chrome doesn't work either - only IE8! Your Can't open file for... problem could be caused by an error in the custom-convert.conf file that is generated by the Inguz plugin.pm code. But - my guess is that the Qnap is unable to run Inguzdsp.exe for some reason.. Just found a file called InguzDSP (no file extension) which contains pathing information to 'mono', InguzDSP, InguzDSP.exe error and log.txt. Putting in the correct paths I now get the following in the Inguz error file... ** (/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Bin/i386-linux/InguzDSP.exe:2900): WARNING **: Shutting down finalizer thread timed out. So it looks as if you guessed correctly - the QNAP isn't running InguzDSP.exe correctly! From the command line InguzDSP - InguzDSP.exe responds as it should though; i.e. # /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Bin/i386-linux/InguzDSP Returns: Usage: InguzDSP -id clientID [-d outputbitdepth] [-r samplerate] [-wav] [-be] I guess it's back to Hugh for that one. Unless anyone knows different! Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Superiority of Toslink?
Before I try Toslink from my SB Receiver, is anyone able to advise about the SBR optical output. I have a Lavry DA-10 DAC. According to Dan Lavry the DAC jitter correction capabilities are equally good using Coax or optical inputs. If this is true the main influence on sound quality (if any) is likely to be the quality of the SBR coax or optical outputs. So, which is better - the SBR coax or optical output? Not a simple question to answer I'm sure and yes, I know, it's something I should try for myself. But I'm being lazy at the moment and would like to hear the opinions of others :-) Thanks Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65893 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Superiority of Toslink?
-Stef-;446061 Wrote: I think Phil's answer can be applied to all questions in the range of What sounds better, this or that? and I can only agree with it. People inform you about their individual opinion of how they think a component sounds, so why adopt instead of having your own? I never asked for an opinion about what sounds better and have no intention of adopting the opinion of anyone else. What sounds 'better' is purely a matter of personal taste anyway. Over many years of listening to music, I've concluded that many system changes that are claimed to produce 'better' sound quality can at best be described as sounding 'different'. Sometimes what is described as better/different is simply wishful thinking. I always let my own ears decide and will eventually get around to a comparative listen of coax v optical. My question was 'out of interest only'. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65893 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound
earwaxer;446103 Wrote: I was a burn in skeptic as well! It took me 20 yrs to believe in the concept that cables make a difference! I now believe in both! It's a strange thing for sure. The rationale behind burn in for capacitors has some basis in theory. The idea is that during the process of winding the thin film, micro-perforations develop. There is an arching across these tiny holes until the gap is fused with melted material thus repairing the hole. I've been told something similar about capacitors by an electronics design engineer - he thought it was a thin film effect as well. Like me, he was a burn in skeptic as but after completing a pre-amp build (of his design), we are both converts. Cables though - apart from a few eccentric designs (Litz for example), I'm still a skeptic :-) Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66347 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How does volume work on spdif out?
Peter314;438160 Wrote: Nice explanation. Worked examples are extremely helpful. Does this mean that digital volume control with 24 bit files will entail loss of detail? Up to a point yes - apparently. If you read some of the writings of people like Dan Lavry, no music currently available can utilize the full 24bit resolution - technology in the best recording studio's can barely make use of 20 bit's! If this is true there are still at least 4 bits that can be 'lost' before music information is also lost. I know extremely little on the subject but guess that the likes of Dan Lavry would have the necessay knowledge - although there are almost certainly some that would disagree! Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65284 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download
I tried playing a 24/96 free download from Gemmel, hoping that SOX would downsample it - but it didn't. No audio output generated at all! First I tried with the .wma file and get the error: 0277: [09-07-03 16:16:40.7919] Slim::Player::Song::open (341) Error: Couldn't create command line for wma playback for [file:///volume1/Audio/Music/Bob%27s%20Singles/07-MissaFortunadesperata-Gloria.wma] Then I tried converting to 'flac' with dbPoweramp and get a different error: 0278: /volume1/SSODS/bin/sox stio: Unknown output file format for '-': File type `flac' is not known SqueezeCentre is runing from a QNAP TS-509 NAS which should be quite capable of transcoding with SOX - the errors don't seem to indicate a problem with processor power either. Both files play on PC in 'MediaMonkey' and normal 'flac' plays without a problem from the NAS. Any thoughts appreciated? Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63908 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download
Phil Leigh;437909 Wrote: What version of SC are you running - it looks like you need a later version of SOX. From memory you need SOX 14.2 or later. I'm using SC 7.3.4 so I guess(?) it's got the latest SOX. How can I check which version is installed (in Linux)? Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63908 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download
Phil Leigh;437925 Wrote: Not sure in Linux... In XP the version is obvious. Suggest you check out the SOX website http://sox.sourceforge.net/ Thanks Phil, Version check from the Linux command line is: sox --version It returned version 13.00 so that was the problem. It looks as if the QNAP SSOTS setup installs an earlier version of SOX but it can be updated with QNAP's IPKG software. Only problem then is that the new file is in the wrong place with wrong permissions. After putting it (copying) v14.2 into the correct folder and setting the file permissions correctly, the music file (flac) is playing. Thanks again Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63908 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download
Meant to add to the previous message. Sounds marvellous as well. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Duet - SC 7.3.4 - SSOTS v3.18 Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.1.0 build 0627T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63908 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
