[AZORES-Genealogy] Tracing my Grandparents >> Jose Moniz Furnas & Rosa Furtado Moniz

[Anthony J M]

Good day ,

Trying to trace my Grandfather Jose'  and  my Grandmother Rosa  who met in 
Somerset and married , 

They later,pre 1925 travelled back to Sao Miguel , and opened a general 
store in Sao Bras .

   r

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for a relative: Reyes Sousa (or Souza)- Norte Grande, Sao Jorge

[J Halmbacher]

Searching for any information on a Reyes Sousa (not sure if the surname is 
spelled with a "z" or "s." He was supposedly born on Sao Jorge in Norte 
Grande around 1810. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Phone for a month in the Azores

[Linda J Magellan]

I am just now returning from a month long trip to Lisboa and Santa Maria. I 
purchased a SIM card when I landed in Lisboa, 5 May, and it has worked fine the 
whole time. I was able to make calls within Portugal, and I used the internet 
daily. I paid 10€ for it. It included 500 min/SMS and 3GB internet.  



Sent from my iPad.

> On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:35 AM, Margaret Vicente  
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> Cheri,
> 
> It was cheaper for me to buy a new cell phone locally.  Here's some 
> information.
> 
> http://tourazores.com/2011/06/calling-home-from-the-azores/
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> Does anyone on this list know how much it costs to have a phone for a month 
>> in the Azores? Someone told me it can be done. I think I can put my Sim card 
>> in the phone and it will work. The price in euros is fine.
>> 
>> Thanks, Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brazil records

['j Bc' via Azores Genealogy]

*Following is a list of links to all of the digital collections on Brazil 
available on familysearch*
- Jeremy









Brazil Baptisms, 1688-1935 
 

Brazil Deaths, 1750-1890 
 
43,931 07 Apr 2010
Brazil Marriages, 1730-1955 
 
23,442 11 Mar 2012
Brazil, Bahia, Passenger Lists, 1855-1964 
 
Browse 
Images 

 05 
Sep 2014
Brazil, Bahía, Catholic Church Records, 1598-2007 
 
Browse 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Ceará, Catholic Church Records, 1725-1971 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Maranhão, Catholic Church Records, 1673-1962 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Minas Gerais, Belo Horizonte, Cemetery Records, 1897-2012 
 
Browse 
Images 

 06 
Dec 2013
Brazil, Minas Gerais, Catholic Church Records, 1706-1999 
 
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 25 
Mar 2014
Brazil, Paraná, Catholic Church Records, 1704-2008 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Paraná, Civil Registration, 1852-1996 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Paraíba, Catholic Church Records, 1731-2013 
 
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 04 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Paraíba, Civil Registration, 1879-2007 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Pará, Catholic Church Records, 1930-1976 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Pernambuco, Catholic Church Records, 1762-2002 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Pernambuco, Civil Registration, 1804-2014 
 
969,091 21 Jun 2016
Brazil, Piauí, Civil Registration, 1875-2013 
 
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 24 
Mar 2014
Brazil, Rio Grande do Norte, Catholic Church Records, 1788-1967 
 
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 18 
Jun 2014
Brazil, Rio Grande do Sul, Catholic Church Records, 1738-1952 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['j Bc' via Azores Genealogy]

>
> Yes, I am sure there are a great many persons with those names, but I am 
> interested in any in Morro bay/San Luis Obispo As you said Cheri in 
> regards to the UPEC collection* "Do NOT put on horse blinders...You have 
> to look around and collect the whole set! You may find the answer you were 
> seeking by looking at another relative or relation." *I don't want to 
> specify names unless it is neccisary to do a search because I would not 
> want to miss any cousins that may have been members.  So depending upon the 
> layout of your database Celeste, if this is possible pleaselet me know, if 
> not I can compile a list...


Thanks,

Jeremy G. Berry-Cahn
Researching: Ribeira Seca, Calheta, Faja Dos Cubres
 

>  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

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I was indeed reffering to the  SPRSI records, although I am ALSO interested 
in those of the UPPEC.
Specifically in Morro Bay/San Luis Obispo County California.  Is there any 
was you might be willing to look for deaths in those areas in your database 
for surnames simalar to: DeTerra/Terra/Reis/ReizCardoza/Cardoso

That would be very interesting.

Thanks

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

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>
> *I don't suppose anyone knows the whereabouts of the women's fraternal 
> records? (I forgot the acronym for the group but I think it starts with an 
> S)*
>

*I DO know the death books for the Portuguese Union of California from 
1880-1949 are available at 
http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 
 *

*JEREMY*

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help With Obituary Translation

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That link didnt work the "L" cut off. its 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1841-1860/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1841-1860_item1/P159.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Guinea Pig needed for DNA Utility

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Id love to see/use such a guide. You walked me through much of it over the 
phone; but I think it would still be interesting to see a step by step 
picture guide...

Jeremy 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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Calouro is all one word. I read it the same as you.  The brides parents are 
both deceased

>
> - Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge (Riviera Seca) Researcher Needed

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Yes! Thanks a bazillion this helps me more than you know -you have more 
than made my day! I will begin the process of ordering that from the Civil 
Registry now! Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge (Riviera Seca) Researcher Needed

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Yes! Hugely! You can send an email to jeremecio AT yahoo DOT com . your 
a true god-send.

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 8:31:32 AM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
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> Not a problem. I'm glad I can help somehow.
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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:15 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Awesome. I just put that info into my genealogy. You are a saint Marcio. 
>  I appreciate yourtaking the time to help!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Verification

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Okay. Thanks

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Verification

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Can anyone make out the parents on the birth positively?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge (Riviera Seca) Researcher Needed

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Yes, and no luck unfortunately.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge (Riviera Seca) Researcher Needed

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Hello,

I have broached this subject to both Rosemarie and Cheri, and am hoping that 
someone might be able to lead me in the right direction. 

I have a set of grandparents that died somewhere between 1911-1930 in Ribeira 
Seca on Sao Jorge.  (Manuel Machado Cabral and his wife Maria Joaquina)

These records obviously aren't on the CCA, and date range is too large to be 
searched via standard request because the archives refuse to perform research. 
I need either church records or civil records just to get the dates of death.

I have tried Joao Ventura but he is unable to do research of that nature in Sao 
Jorge. Therefore, I would like to know if any of you know of anyone who might 
be able to personally do research in the church at Ribeira secs or archives in 
the council of calheta for civil records. If anyone is our knows anyone who is 
anywhere near the area and night be able to perform the research please let me 
know, as I would be happy to reimburse for such work.  Further, if anyone knows 
of anyone who has a personal database for Ribeira Seca post 1911 deaths please 
please please notify me.

Any help at all with this depends would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Verification

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 Hello.  I believe that the person marrying on the top right entry of 
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1698-1723/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1698-1723_item1/P62.html
 

 Is Agada daughter of Matthias Texeira De __ and Barbara Pereira de Sousa.  
  I would like to know If I have the parents names right. Like the suffix of 
the father's??? Furthermore, wether her birth record looks like the one second 
up from the bottom right at the following link, which I am guessing reads  
Agada born 14 Feb 1690 to Matthias Texeira __ and Barbara Pereira de 
Sousa   

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1676-1698/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1676-1698_item1/P49.html

Just hoping to confirm because that both record is extremely ugly!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Directories???!

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Hello! Does anyone know of where I may find telephone directories, address 
books or any sort of directory for Sao Jorge or specifically calheta from 
1933-1980? I would also actually be interested any regardless of island if for 
nothing else to help determine the whereabouts of such books which I have been 
told at one point existed. I am hoping to track a few people and hopefully get 
a died after x date

Many thanks for any input on the matter.

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arline L. Silveira, 1934-2016 (sara...@aol.com)

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Doris Mello went. They were close.

On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> Is anyone for this list going to Arline's funeral tomorrow?
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> Arline Silveira, long time member of this list and a genealogist for more 
>> than 25 years has passed away.
>>
>> The link to the San Jose Mercury News with her obituary is here: 
>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=181473270
>>
>> Arline Loretta Silveira
>> Resident of Grover Beach
>> Arline Loretta Silveira passed away on September 18, 2016 after a brief 
>> illness, surrounded by her children and grandchildren. 
>> She was born December 17, 1934 in San Jose to Joseph and Mary Azevedo, 
>> and was the youngest of three children. She grew up on a dairy in East San 
>> Jose and graduated from James Lick High School at age 16. She married 
>> Jerome Silveira on May 18, 1952 and raised five children. They were 
>> involved in school activities and they enjoyed camping with friends and 
>> family. She also had a love of animals and the outdoors, and was a docent 
>> at the Youth Science Institute. She was also very active in 4-H activities 
>> for several years.
>> She attended San Jose State University in the fall of 1982 until she 
>> moved to Shell Beach in December of 1983 and attended Cal Poly studying 
>> zoology and computer science. She loved living by the ocean.
>> Arline enjoyed doing stained glass projects, making jewelry by lost wax 
>> casting method, creating quilts for family members and many other arts and 
>> crafts. She loved books and had always read daily. She enjoyed doing jigsaw 
>> and word puzzles and logic problems. She was a square dancer for several 
>> years and had many friends. She spent many years doing Azorean genealogy 
>> and helped many people find their ancestors. She loved traveling, 
>> especially to her beloved Azores Islands.
>> She is survived by her children Randy Silveira of San Jose, Toni Wallace 
>> of Reno, Jeri Silveira Corvinus of Valley Springs, CA, Lori Williams (Rick) 
>> of Grover Beach, Lisa Gularte of Arroyo Grande and eight grandchildren: 
>> Loren Green Silveira, Shawn Wallace, Jessalyn Wallace, Christopher 
>> Corvinus, Johnathan Corvinus, Danny Williams, Bailee Gularte and Kody 
>> Gularte. She was preceded in death by her parents, her brother Philbert 
>> Azevedo and her sister Elaine Alderete.
>> Mass will be at St. Pauls Church on Bello St. in Pismo Beach on Saturday 
>> September 24th 2016 at 1:00pm, reception to follow at hall. In lieu of 
>> flowers, do something kind for your Mother or loved ones.
>>
>>
>> View the online memorial for Arline Loretta Silveira 
>>  
>> Published in San Jose Mercury News/San Mateo County Times on 
>> Sept. 21, 2016 - See more at: 
>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=181473270#sthash.JeyJOJec.dpuf
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

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Thanks ever so much Bill!  This is great! With your info I located Pascoals 
death record.  I really appreciate it!


On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 10:15:40 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
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> It seems the priest wrote using plurals saying the her and her husband are 
> natives (naturais) and parishioners (freguezes) of this parish.  He may 
> have made an incorrect assumption about her birthplace.  I checked 
> Francisco's 1740 baptism and it clearly says the father is from this 
> parish, but she is from Piedade, Pico (as you said).  I would doubt there 
> is another couple in Calheta with these names (especially Heronima).  You 
> probably have it, but just in case it is here is the baptism I referred to. 
>   
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1730-1746/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1730-1746_item1/P149.html
>
> I can't make out most of the rest, but I do not believe her parents are 
> named.  There is something about the soul of her son Pascoal (alma do seu 
> filho Pascoal da Souza).  I think there is also a reference to the souls of 
> her parents, but I don't see their names or parish given. Unfortunately, 
> neither of these records say where this couple was married.  
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:10:40 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>>
>> P.S. That death record link I sent had her at the top left.
>>
>> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married 
>>> Francisco De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children 
>>> were born in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco 
>>> Fernandes Pereira De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find 
>>> information on Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from 
>>> Piedade stretching from 1711-1736!  
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help Reading the Marg

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Looks like the person died on or was buried on the 12th of June 1937. (last 
sentence)

On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 8:10:10 PM UTC-7, Bob wrote:
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>  I everyone I am need of help reading the information in the margin.  I 
> know this is Manuel Correa dos Reis.  He was born 03-25-1896.  It is the 
> text in the margin area I am trying to understand.  This is for #39 on the 
> attach web link 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1891-1897/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1891-1897_item1/P153.html
>  
>  
> Bob Camacho
> Researching the Island of Terceira for
> da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
> Researching the Island of Graciousa for
> Reis
> Researching the Island of Madeira for
> Camacho
> Researching Brazil for
> Evangelho
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Piedade Records prior to 1699?

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Does anyone know of ANY Piedade Records prior to 1699? They are'nt on the 
CCA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

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Okay. Perhaps I have just been lucky in the past, as I have often been able 
to get that info.  What was the sons name? That info also is helpful.
I appreciate it greatly Linda!

Jeremy

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
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> Hello!
>
> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married Francisco 
> De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children were born 
> in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco Fernandes Pereira 
> De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find information on 
> Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from Piedade 
> stretching from 1711-1736!  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

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*It figures. that puts her as born 1699.  Records of baptisms begin Oct 
1699 and I dont see her. Fantastic. UGH!*

*Cheri - are you able to make out the parents? I could not see filha.  This 
is particularly important since I wont be able to get the birth, and I 
cannot find her marriage (though now will look again)*

*IF it mentions Piedade or her parents how many lines down from the top is 
it?*


*THANKS*
On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
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> Hello!
>
> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married Francisco 
> De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children were born 
> in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco Fernandes Pereira 
> De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find information on 
> Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from Piedade 
> stretching from 1711-1736!  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

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P.S. That death record link I sent had her at the top left.

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
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> Hello!
>
> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married Francisco 
> De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children were born 
> in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco Fernandes Pereira 
> De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find information on 
> Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from Piedade 
> stretching from 1711-1736!  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

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Hello! Tonight I was able to find her death record (while looking for 
another ancestor!) TOO FUNNY :-) . 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1750-1780/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1750-1780_item1/P49.html
 I 
think it says she died 20 Mar 1757. (Right before that big earthquake by 
the way).  Am I right that she was aged 58 years? If not it looks like 
5_something. For some reason I cannot make out filha.  Its pretty sizable - 
does anyone see who the parents are listed as?  This is important since I 
have not yet found their marriage or her birth.  The other thing I am 
trying to figure out is if anyone sees where she was born. Is it Piedade?

THANKS!

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help with Marriage record

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*If you are referring to the one on the left hand side of the page, the 
grooms parents are: Francisco Antonio Muniz Galvao (deceased) and Francisca 
Genoveva (living).*


*If you are referring to the one on the right hand side of the page, the 
grooms parents are: Manuel Luiz (deceased) and Francisca dos Anjos 
(living).*

*Im 99% sure I am correct, but I am new to all of this!*




On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 2:12:39 PM UTC-7, PatGirard wrote:
>
> Can anyone translate this marriage records for me? I especially need help 
> with the groom's parents. Thanks
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1810-1849/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1810-1849_item1/P217.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

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Hello!

Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married Francisco 
De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children were born 
in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco Fernandes Pereira 
De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find information on 
Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from Piedade 
stretching from 1711-1736!  

Thanks,

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation request

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How very interesting.  THANKS SO SO SO SO MUCH MARA! :-)

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 6:48:54 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
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> Hello! On: 
>
> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1253392=garcia%20terra
>
> I am hoping someone can aid me in the translation of the following line! 
> What is the refferenced document?
>
> Documentos referentes a uma autorização concedida pela subprefeitura da 
> Horta a Luciano Garcia Terra, da vila de Madalena, arrematante da renda das 
> vinhas e das casas do extinto convento do Carmo da ilha do Pico.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation request

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Hello! On: 

http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1253392=garcia%20terra

I am hoping someone can aid me in the translation of the following line! 
What is the refferenced document?

Documentos referentes a uma autorização concedida pela subprefeitura da 
Horta a Luciano Garcia Terra, da vila de Madalena, arrematante da renda das 
vinhas e das casas do extinto convento do Carmo da ilha do Pico.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Modern Portuguese Names

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Oh this IS cool! Thanks for posting it Cheri! I downloaded the pdf of names 
- it will be a useful tool. Love the article,

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> This came up once before and Eliseu shared the list of acceptable names 
> for children today in Portugal. Here is a little write up in the 
> "Portuguese American Journal" about names today. It also contains a link to 
> the list that Eliseu previously provided. https://goo.gl/OwuQCF
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 2016 Salt Lake City Conference Group photo

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I too wish I could be there. Do you guys only go in September?

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> (Cross posted to the Azores and IslandRoutes lists. Can't post to Madeira 
> due to the hosting parameters)
>
> Attached is the photo of most of the people attending the genealogy 
> conference in Salt Lake (about 5 people missed the photo opportunity). We 
> are having a great time and learning a lot!
> Cheri Mello
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hard to read marriage record!

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Okay, Ill go take out the pre 1778 date of death. Thanks! Its always 
interesting to to find names that haven't shown in my tree (other than 
Antoino, Manuel, Maria, Anna, Rosa, Rita, Francisco, Faustina, Jose, 
Joao)...  good to know.

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> There was no "ja defuncto" or abbreviations for that after the name. 
> Margaret had it right. I should not be answering emails at 4 a.m.!
>
> Joam to JoãoI didn't major languages but the sound that was produced 
> in old Portuguese by the "am" was replaces by the "ão" and the language was 
> modernized. You will see Conceicam which is now Conceição, Sam Jorge island 
> to São Jorge, etc.
>
> I have a few Susanas in my tree. Cheri
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1 more margin note... help please! :-)

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Okay. That sound good It looks like that to me too. Ill go ahead an put 
that into familytreemaker. Thanks a ton Bill!

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:47:51 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
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> Hi!
>
> Today I traced ANOTHER immigrant ancestor back to the Azores, humorously 
> the same exact town as my other ones!
>
> My great uncle's baptism from 1873 has a margin note that (If I am 
> correct) reads something like "Died 4th of May 194_" Is it 1946? Cant tell. 
> Looks to end in "s" so seis?
> Also I cant make out Sao Thiago which would be the chrch for Rebeira Seca, 
> so I would love to know where it says he died.
>
> Because this is a minuscule entry, It might be easier to look at the image 
> I have posted at the second link below.
>
> Thome BAPTISM 1873 - Ribeira Seca, Calheta, Sao Jorge ::: TOP LEFT ENTRY 
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1871-1879/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1871-1879_item1/P113.html>
>
> Larger Image CLICK HERE 
> <https://sites.google.com/site/imageattachments33/001>
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>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeremy
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hard to read marriage record!

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A HUGE thank you to all of of you!

I really appreciate the next marriage and the full translation Margaret! You 
are amazingly generous!

I thought is was Suzana myself, but was unsure because I had not seen that one 
in the azores.  Interesting that Joan became Joao -- did not know that but 
having looked backwards through records it makes sense because Joao fades and 
Joan becomes popular.

This is now up at 5 generations part my immigrant ancestor! Thanks! Now I'll go 
death and baptism hunting for them and possible siblings :-)


,

Jeremy G. B-C

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Hard to read marriage record!

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Sorry forgot to include that it is 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1745-1781/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1745-1781_item1/P144.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Hard to read marriage record!

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Hello guys! 

Sorry to ask your help one last time, as I will be busy for a while with 
school after this!


 I have discovered a marriage record for my . grandparents from 
Calheta, Calheta, Sao Jorge on the 28th of September 1778.

It is the entry on the left hand side of the following page (Antonio 
Machado Cardoso and Barbara Josefa).  I am having a bit of trouble with 
their parents names however, so if someone could clear things up Id be 
greatly appreciative.

I'm thinking the grooms parents are
- Joam Cardoso Machado ??
- Maria das Candeyas

and the bride's parents could be
- Joam Machado Cabral ??
- ___ Maria___??

These are very hard to read for me as It was just last month I started 
doing such serious Azorean research, and now I have found a second 
immigrant ancestor and am going crazy!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Age of child?

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*I am new to this myself, but if I am reading this corectly, the 
abbreviation is "fa" for Filha (daughter) in other words I would guess 
Maria is the daughter of Faustino de Souzada Silva and Rosa Candida.*


*Jeremy G. B-C*
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:35:12 PM UTC-7, Christian Day wrote:
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> Hi there,
>
> Here's an image of a confessional roll entry I'm trying to understand. 
> This is, I believe, my ancestors Faustino da Silva and Rosa Candida. For 
> the next person in their family, Maria J.a (Juaquina? Though that isn't on 
> the abbreviations page I have from the Azores page) there is only an "M". 
>  Does this mean something? If it's mother, then it probably isn't my 
> ancestor because Rosa's mother is Maria Candida and Faustino's mother is 
> Anna Maria. 
>
> Any ideas? The full page is here 
> 
>  
> (they're on the lower left) 
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Madre Church

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Thats got to be right. The documents all say Santa Catherina too. Cool. 
Thanks!

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> Hello! Where are all of the Santa Madre Igrejas in the azores? Any in Sao 
> Jorge?
>
> Thanks!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Madre Church

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Matriz is Santa Madre? Okay cool. Thanks!

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> Hello! Where are all of the Santa Madre Igrejas in the azores? Any in Sao 
> Jorge?
>
> Thanks!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Madre Church

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Hello! Where are all of the Santa Madre Igrejas in the azores? Any in Sao 
Jorge?

Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1 more margin note... help please! :-)

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Aha!
Now I see that! :-) Thanks SO MUCH!







On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 7:37:28 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
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> Hello, 
>
> It's difficult, however I'm reading the year as 1948.
>
> Margaret
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:25 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Today I traced ANOTHER immigrant ancestor back to the Azores, humorously 
>> the same exact town as my other ones!
>>
>> My great uncle's baptism from 1873 has a margin note that (If I am 
>> correct) reads something like "Died 4th of May 194_" Is it 1946? Cant tell. 
>> Looks to end in "s" so seis?
>> Also I cant make out Sao Thiago which would be the chrch for Rebeira 
>> Seca, so I would love to know where it says he died.
>>
>> Because this is a minuscule entry, It might be easier to look at the 
>> image I have posted at the second link below.
>>
>> Thome BAPTISM 1873 - Ribeira Seca, Calheta, Sao Jorge ::: TOP LEFT ENTRY 
>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1871-1879/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1871-1879_item1/P113.html>
>>
>> Larger Image CLICK HERE 
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/imageattachments33/001>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jeremy
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[AZORES-Genealogy] 1 more margin note... help please! :-)

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Hi!

Today I traced ANOTHER immigrant ancestor back to the Azores, humorously 
the same exact town as my other ones!

My great uncle's baptism from 1873 has a margin note that (If I am correct) 
reads something like "Died 4th of May 194_" Is it 1946? Cant tell. Looks to 
end in "s" so seis?
Also I cant make out Sao Thiago which would be the chrch for Rebeira Seca, 
so I would love to know where it says he died.

Because this is a minuscule entry, It might be easier to look at the image 
I have posted at the second link below.

Thome BAPTISM 1873 - Ribeira Seca, Calheta, Sao Jorge ::: TOP LEFT ENTRY 


Larger Image CLICK HERE 



Thanks!

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obituaries?

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Thanks a zillion Rosemarie!2

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making sense of 2 Norte Pequeno Marginal Notations

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Ahhh. That makes alot of sense. Thanks very much Linda and Cheri! It's 
greatly appreciated... a pity those death books aren't online ;-) but I'm 
thrilled to have the date!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Obituaries?

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Hello.

It just occurred to me, as I am seeking information on a few aunts and uncles 
that died in the 1930s and 1940s to ask wether or not SaO Jorge had a 
newspaper? I'm sure it did, but the title would be greatly appreciated. I'm 
also curious as to wether they would have some sort of death notice anyway 
similar to what we would have here in the states. Furthermore if there is a 
digital repositories of such a paper?!

Thanks!

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making sense of 2 Norte Pequeno Marginal Notations

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Fantastic When did it become practice to add death notations into the 
baptisms? I'm guessing this means they both ended up dying in Jorge Pequeno 
where they were baptised?

I was hoping that it was their death dates that I was seeing - my initial 
inclination...

Thanks,
Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Making sense of 2 Norte Pequeno Marginal Notations

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Hello!

I would greatly appreciate if anyone could please tell me what the 
notations written next to the entries in the following two baptisms mean!

LINKS:
Antonio's Baptism (1854) BR ENTRY 

Rita's Baptism (1861) TL ENTRY 


Many, Many Thanks,

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Garcia Terra Family on Pico

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Hello!

Is anyone researching the Garcia Terra family on Pico which most likely 
came origionally from Faial? 
If so, Id love to hear from you!

Thanks,

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rolls for Ribeira Seca on Sao Jorge island, 1875 & 1900

['j Bc' via Azores Genealogy]

I recieved the 1875 and 1900 Ribeira Seca Rolls from Maggie - Thanks so 
much guys!

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> Repost for Jeremy, jeremecio at yahoo.com
> Hello! 
> Back in 08' Maggie Sutton published 1875 and 1900 rolls for Ribeira Seca, 
> however the link no longer works! Does anyone know where this information 
> has moved?
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> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Machado de Mendonca family from Ribeira Seca, ilha de S. Jorge

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Yes! This is my family. Would love to compare notes. I defend from Antonio 
Machado Mendonca son of Manuel Machado Mendonca son of Miguel Machado Mendonca 
son of Manuel Machado Mendonca son of Bras Alvarez Teixeira.. you can email 
me at jeremecio AT yahoo DOT com

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

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Hello! Thanks ever so much for the clarification.  You wrote "It must have been 
issued to raise funds to build one of the lateral altars where the image of our 
Lady of Lourdes stands" - so I appreciate knowing what it was... I am 
attempting to date it, so do you think that the church might have record of 
when the altar was constructed? There is an image of it on the front to use in 
identification Does anyone happen to know who I might contact there?
Thanks!
Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

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My goodness! Can't believe I didn't see that Thanks for all of your help 
Cheri! I will post the scan of the back of it tommorow morning. If you can make 
anything of that I'd be ever so grateful! 
We appreciate it greatly, 
Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

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Okay, But have you seen Veiha with and I instance of L - Velhas?
Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

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Thanks! 
Although I also saw C. Velha, it's quite confusing because it says C. VeIha NOT 
C. Velha. There is no church we can find named Veiha, so is it a spelling 
variation anyone is familiar with?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Please!

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Hello!

Darn! I am sorry to hear that it is not Rosa Terra as I had hoped, however 
the information about the abbreviations will definitely be of use, as I 
would never have seen Ferreira in that! I will be sure to post a link to 
the record next time. thank you all for your tremendous help in 
clarification! It is all very much apprecaited.

JGBC

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confirmations

[J]

It would have been 16, Cheri. Has been since the Canon was written down
after the Council of Trent. I'll double check that tomorrow since I'm
working tonight.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation - Marriage of Manoel Martins de Gouveia Appolinaria de Jesus de Faria - 1876 Rabo de Peixe

[J]

The right side - #3

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:21 AM Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are 2 marriages. The left or the right?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe

[J]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html


I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of
my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism
is 25 January 1851.  I’m also trying to understand which family is from
Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is
greatly appreicated.


Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Cardoza - Sao Jorge Help?

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So, I am a high school student - I have done genealogy for a number of 
years, and am fully capable of reading english, french, and swedish 
records, but have difficuty with my Azore side

My grandfather  Joe Machado Cardoza was born in Sao Jorge on December 27th 
1871 he emigrated to CA in 1890 or 1892 dependent upon where you get the 
info. (1890 is more likely) I have been trying to work DESPERATELY at 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx hoping that 
I can find him. I know his parents were: 
Joe-Maunel Machado Cardoza and Maria Juaquinia/Joaquina? He also had a 
brother Manuel b. 1869. I just need to use 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx to find the 
town in the azores, but am unable. I really need help -  once I get that, I 
can pull up all sorts of things, and start going back in the azores. Can 
anyone help? Any tips as to how to bet that darn town?

Thanks so so much!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Moraes from Ponta Delgada and Ribeirinha and Angra do Heroismo, Terceira

[j. de moraes]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jveWWNk1Cp0/VKVYN85VIbI/ALA/w7ZHdOxzza8/s1600/IMG_1641.JPG
 

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gO-VuKrUj-w/VKVYVMUB_NI/ALI/5hvyhM2gM4o/s1600/IMG_1640.JPG
Cheri thank you for your note and guidance and thank you to Doug for the 
email received.

I was responding to an old post that had noted the names Azevedo and 
Moraes, I posted my family history in case it would help to fill in any 
blanks as both names were found in my history and I was wondering if we 
were related.

The thread with pictures was on the SS Homeland, I'll post those pictures 
here and hopefully anyone interested will find them,

From what I've read there were photographers offering their services on 
board the SS Homeland when it set out from Ponta Delgada on March 22 1954, 
I suppose you posed for a picture then bought it if you wanted, here's one 
of my father and some other gentlemen, all of whom have signed the back.



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 Repost for J.E. de Moraes   j.e.demoraes at gmail.com
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 then your message.  Sincerely, Cheri Mello, Listowner)

 Hello, I found this group while searching the SS Homeland and immigration, 
 my father was on that ship 22nd march 1954 and landed in Halifax.

 My father was Antonio AC de Moraes and his family was from Ponta Delgada 
 and prior to that from Terceira. 

 My Father did some research in the Azores back in the 1990's and via 
 church records traced our family back to Antonio Dias Toste, born 1644 in 
 S. Pedro da Ribeirinha, going forward from him to my grandfather, son of 
 the son; 

 Manoel Martinz de Azevedo (1667-1705 S. Pedro da Ribeirinha), 

 Manoel Martinz de Azevedo Jr (born 1690 S. Pedro da Ribeirinha)

 Then the name changes to de Moraes with his son,

 Fransisco Muchado de Moraes (born 1728 Angra do Heroismo)

 Joze Matheus de Moraes (born 1760 Angra do Heroismo)

 Manoel Joaquim de Moraes (1788 - 1851 Angra do Heroismo)

 Joao Antonio de Moraes (1822 - 1906 Angra do Heroismo)

 Antonio Augusto de Moraes (1843 - 1919 Angra do Heroismo)

 Antonio Augusto de Moraes Jr (born 1870 Angra do Heroismo - died 1944 
 Ponta Delgada)

 Alcino de Moraes (1899 - 1958 Ponta Delgada).


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration from Santa Maria - 1898

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Hermano - that's a big help. Thanks.

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 John
 Marion Wilhemina Coelho's original name must have been Mariana (or
 Marianna) Guilhermina Coelho if you looking for information prior to her
 emigration.
 Hope that Helps.
 Hermano


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration from Santa Maria - 1898
 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:44:56 +


 John;  My paternal ancestry is Coelho from Santa Maria.  My grandfather
 being Jose Soares Coelho from Vila do Porto, Santa Maria.  Will you share
 with me what info. you have on Marion Wilhelmina Coelho’s ancestors?
 Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA

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 In researching my wife's maternal grandmother, cannot find out how Marion
 Wilhelmina Coelho arrived in USA. Census records show her immigrating in
 1898, along with her parents, Francisco and Mary Coelho, and settling in
 Providence, RI. Passenger lists found on the Ancestry site for that time
 period do not include those names. Are there other sources for information
 about immigration from the Azores in the 1890's? Any help will be much
 appreciated.
 John Bentz
 East Providence, RI

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Immigration from Santa Maria - 1898

[J Stephen Bentz]

Dano - she was 10 or 11 years old at that time.

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 John, what was Marion Coelho's age when the family immigrated to the US?


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 In researching my wife's maternal grandmother, cannot find out how Marion
 Wilhelmina Coelho arrived in USA. Census records show her immigrating in
 1898, along with her parents, Francisco and Mary Coelho, and settling in
 Providence, RI. Passenger lists found on the Ancestry site for that time
 period do not include those names. Are there other sources for information
 about immigration from the Azores in the 1890's? Any help will be much
 appreciated.
 John Bentz
 East Providence, RI

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration from Santa Maria - 1898

[J Stephen Bentz]

Cheri - Thanks! I did find their names listed in the 1896-1900 section, and
we can continue the search for more information from there.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 John B,

 Most people from Santa Maria sailed out of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
 island.  The emigration OUT of the Azores are part of the Passaporte
 books.  The port of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island is online, but some
 of the records are missing.  Hopefully yours is there.  You can access them
 through the Tombo site here: http://tombo.pt/d/acores

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration from Santa Maria - 1898

[J Stephen Bentz]

Sam - will be glad to share info on MWC's ancestors. Don't have much yet,
but we will continue to dig into the online data.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:44 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
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  John;  My paternal ancestry is Coelho from Santa Maria.  My grandfather
 being Jose Soares Coelho from Vila do Porto, Santa Maria.  Will you share
 with me what info. you have on Marion Wilhelmina Coelho’s ancestors?
 Thanks, Sam in Camas, WA

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 In researching my wife's maternal grandmother, cannot find out how Marion
 Wilhelmina Coelho arrived in USA. Census records show her immigrating in
 1898, along with her parents, Francisco and Mary Coelho, and settling in
 Providence, RI. Passenger lists found on the Ancestry site for that time
 period do not include those names. Are there other sources for information
 about immigration from the Azores in the 1890's? Any help will be much
 appreciated.
 John Bentz
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[AZORES-Genealogy] A partial 'TOC' for those Pico, Santo António, Baptismos 1860-1890

[David J Lima]

Since they are not separated by year headings like other sets are:

Pico: Santo Antonio Parish: Baptisms:

1883 start at page 292

1884 start at page 305

1885 start at page 317

1886 start at page 329

1887 start at page 339

1888 start at page 355

1889 start at page 366

1890 start at page 383

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural

[David J Lima]

In the CCA baptism records, I see that some are worded as legitimate and 
others are worded as natural, and the latter seem to omit the father.
What is the difference? why is the father omitted in the naturals?

Thanks,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA index?

[David J Lima]

I'm a bit new at this...

I've traced an ancestor (Manuel Vieira Maciel) to Pico, he was born on Pico 
Feb 25 1884 and emigrated to the US. I have no other information. Are there 
any index pages within the CCA? or do I just have to go through it page by 
page?

Thanks.
Dave

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA index?

[David J Lima]

Hi Nancy,
Manuel V Maciel's father was Anthony (Antonio?) V Maciel, and his mother 
was some combination of Anna Marcellina or Anna Rosa or Anna A.
His mother may also have had the surname Malaquias at some point, and she 
later re-married a Manual Soares.

Manuel V Maciel's siblings and/or half-siblings were Marguerite/Mary, 
Joseph Lourenco, Mary/May, Rosalind/Rosalina, and Marion F Soares. This is 
confirmed in the obituaries for these siblings. It seems their idea of 
sibling was casual in that they could be half-related or less (twice 
widowed alternate parents).

What makes it difficult is that they were fast and loose with their names 
in Gloucester, even their last names! Joseph above referred to his own last 
name as Malaquias early on. I find the Marguerite above in local records as 
Margaret, Mary, Maggie, Marguerite, etc. It's hard for me to know what the 
real names were. I have been told by helpful archivists in Gloucester 
that Portuguese immigrants didn't always understand the concept of the 
mother's maiden name, so often in records a female's middle name is listed.

Either way I'm excited to find the NEPS and CCA and hope to learn my way 
around.

My dream is to someday take my children to Pico and see where their 
GGGParents lived.


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 Hi David,
 Any chance you have parents or siblings names? I'm looking in NEPS and see 
 several by this name which seems to be fairly common.
 Nancy Jean
  
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA index?

 I'm a bit new at this...

 I've traced an ancestor (Manuel Vieira Maciel) to Pico, he was born on 
 Pico Feb 25 1884 and emigrated to the US. I have no other information. Are 
 there any index pages within the CCA? or do I just have to go through it 
 page by page?

 Thanks.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Katy Perry's Azorean Roots

[Joan J]

On May 1, 10:57 am, Patricia Butcher pereir...@cox.net wrote:
 Hi Katherine,
 Enjoyed your post about Katy Perry. Having the Perry name in my
 ancestry I have been very curious about her Portuguese roots and was
 trying to find out more about her Faial ggrandfather's surnames and
 families. If anyone has more information please let me know. Thanks

 Pat

I also have Perry in my ancestry.  My maternal ggmother's maiden name
was Olivia Perry (born c. 1870); she was originally from Faial as was
my ggfather Augustus Garcia Monteiro (born March 3, 1867; he died in
the 1930s).  They met and married in the Boston area, then moved to
Oakland CA in 1903.  My greataunt, Olivia Monteiro, was born c. 1892
in MA.  My grandfather, Augustus Perry Monteiro, was born 20 June 1895
in MA and died 28 March 1957 in Santa Clara (according to the CA death
index).  Given that Olivia and Augustus are not given names that I
have seen before, one would think that they would be easy to find.

My maternal grandmother's family seems to come from Flamingos, Faial.
I don't know if that's the case for my maternal grandfather.

Joan Mary Jurancich
Sacramento, CA

Researching Monteiro, Perry, Fialho, Gonsalves (Goncalves), Garcia, da
Silva, da Rosa on Faial

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Augustus Garcia Monteiro

[Joan J]

My ggrandfather, Augustus Garcia Monteiro, was born March 3, 1867, in
Fayal, Azores (as written on my grandfather's birth record).  He
immigrated to the United States in 1885 (as given in the 1910 Census);
his original destination was the Boston area; he later moved to
Oakland, CA, in 1905. He was naturalized on February 17, 1902.  He was
still alive as of April 5, 1930, when he was recorded in the 1930
Census as 62 y.o.  He married Olivia Perry, who was born c. 1871 in
Fayal, Azores.  According to the 1910 Census, she immigrated in 1883;
the 1930 Census says 1879.  They had two children: Augustus Perry
(June 20, 1895-May 28, 1957) and Olivia (c. 1897-?) (both were born in
Boston).

Do any of these names sound familiar?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

[J Earl Medeiros]

Earl Medeiros




 Hi Group,
 
  
 
 In order to make contacting and information sharing easier please 
 answer to
 this mail just with your name. It would be very useful to us to have an
 organized list. 
 
  
 
 Thank you in advance,
 
  
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vacation

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

Lucky you!

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vacation
To: Azores-Gen Azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 3:20 PM


I will be on Vacation in Belo Horizonte From June 6 to June 15.

George

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: RAPOSOS , MACHADOS and LEITES f rom Vila de Nordeste, São Miguel

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

This doesn't answer your query, but I couldn't help responding because of the 
reference to Niteroi, where I lived in 1952.  Wonderful place!.

Lionel Rocha Holmes

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RAPOSOS , MACHADOS and LEITES from Vila de 
Nordeste, São Miguel
To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 10:35 PM


I'm new at this list and I tried to read all the messages posted in
the past but there are too many!I
Does anyonw knows how to get help to find  Christening and Marriage
data at the Azores? My great-grandfather, MANUEL RAPOSO DOS SANTOS,
came to Brazil (haven't found any reference of how and when, yet) and
married my brazilian great-grandmohter in Niterói - a town near Rio de
Janeiro, where I live. He was from VILA DE NORDESTE, NORDESTE, ILHA DE
SÃO MIGUEL. His parents were ANTÓNIO RAPOSO DOS SANTOS and
BARBARA LEITE MACHADO DOS SANTOS and he was born around 1840, 1841 -
according to his death certificate he died when he was 56, on May,
25th.1897. I know the records of Christenings from that period must
already be at Ponta Delgada, for its over 100 years anda I wrote the
chief of the Public Library and she said they would help but never
wrote back.
1- Do you people, since you have much more experience, think I should
keep on insisting?
2- Do any of you know of someone in Azores who may be interested in
exchanging information? I presently have all of my family on records
and I am willing to help searching records on Librarys and other
places here in Rio de Janeiro.
3- Is there another way to reserach (I already ordered the LDS mfs
from Nordeste, Azores) without visiting Azores? I plan to go someday
but right now is impossible.,.
If any of you need help translating documents from Portuguese to
English I am at you disposal.
Thank you so much for you help



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

It's  probably PAVAO.




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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re:  How to spell a portuguese surname
 To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:18 PM
 Hello All,
  
 I have a relative who's name I wrote down as:  Mary
 Pavo.  I spelled it the way it sounded but now I am trying
 to find it in the records and am not sure if the spelling is
 correct.  Can someone tell me if this is the correct
 spelling for that name?  Thank you and any help is
 appreciated.  
  
 Vivian (Silva) Christy
 
 
   
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

Thank you, Eliseu -- a great contribution to the List!

Lionel Rocha Holmes
Sacramento CA


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 From: Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@sapo.pt
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 2:28 AM
 Happy new year to ALL!
 
  
 
 May be this is of some relevance to you guys: Portuguese
 Immigrants in the
 United States
 http://www.iterasi.net/openviewer.aspx?sqrlitid=qwdn_9egou6l3ggvyb4taw
 http://www.iterasi.net/openviewer.aspx?sqrlitid=qwdn_9egou6l3ggvyb4taw.
 Just
 hit the link!
 
  
 
 Eliseu
 
 
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Feliz Natal / Merry Christmas

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

Cheri,

And a Merry  Christmas and a Happy New Year to you, too.  You're doing a great 
job.

Lionel


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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Feliz Natal / Merry Christmas
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 6:18 PM
 Merry Christmas everyone!
 
 Please post your Christmas greetings to this thread only
 (don't start a new
 one).  Please stop the greetings at 11:59pm your time on
 Dec. 25th.
 
 Boas Festas,
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R.
 das Tainhas,
 Achada
 
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Coimbra

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

Thanks. I'll try that.


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 Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:27 AM
 HI,
  
 From what I can tell it is  http://www.uc.pt/
  
 Enjoy ...  Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:17:14 -0800
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:
 [AZORES-Genealogy] Coimbra To:
 azores@googlegroups.com   Is there a website for
 Coimbra University?  Lionel Holmes
 Sacramento 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Listing of English-books wriiten on Portuguese history

[Anthony J. Moniz]

Some interesting  books , both historical and current ,

that may be of interest to the group ...

Anthony


Please See website for more information :

http://www.questia.com/library/history/european-history/southern-europe/portuguese-history.jsp


Excerpts of the books shown below !


1.

The History of Portugal » by James M. Anderson. 222 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
This informative, concise, and engagingly written work provides the
most up-to-date history of Portugal, current through 1999, and gives a
full picture of the political, social, cultural, and economic
influences that shaped the history of Portugal. Covering the period
from Portugal's early...

This informative, concise, and engagingly written work provides the
most up-to-date history of Portugal, current through 1999, and gives a
full picture of the political, social, cultural, and economic
influences that shaped the history of Portugal. Covering the period
from Portugal's early conception as a nation through its long history,
with emphasis on the dramatic period of the last several decades, this
volume culminates with the demise of the Salazar dictatorship and the
independence of its colonies. Complete with a timeline for easy
reference to events, brief biographies of important people, lists of
monarchs and heads of state, and a bibliographic essay, it is the
ideal companion for the student or interested reader.

2.


The Structure of Portuguese Society:
The Failure of Fascism »
by Diamantino P. Machado. 218 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
This macrohistorical study sheds light on the Portuguese paradox:
why a country with a vast and wealthy colonial empire became the
poorest and most backward of Western European nations. Employing a
class conflict perspective, Machado examines Portugal's Estado Novo
and the eventual collapse of the...

This macrohistorical study sheds light on the Portuguese paradox:
why a country with a vast and wealthy colonial empire became the
poorest and most backward of Western European nations. Employing a
class conflict perspective, Machado examines Portugal's Estado Novo
and the eventual collapse of the reactionary coalition. He analyzes
the important role of the state in Portugal's political economy
between 1926 and 1974, offering new insights about the Estado Novo,
Salazar, the military, and bureaucratic-authoritarian


3.


The Portuguese Economy since 1974 »by David Corkill. 178 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
...4.7 Sectors of Portuguese Industry under Threat
Post-1992...Department of English and History at Manchester
Polytechnic...Wiarda 1987 argues that Portuguese corporatism was...
4.


Portugal: From Monarchy to Pluralist Democracy » by Walter C. Opello
Jr. 182 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
...his Decadas , a history of the Portuguese in Goa. Fernao
Lopes...His best work was a history of the Catalan uprising...1640
that allowed the Portuguese to regain their...

5.


Portugal since the Revolution: Economic and Political Perspectives »by
Jorge Braga de Macedo, Simon C. Serfaty. 218 pgs.

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...because of the long history of the Empire and of...boundaries in
Europe, the Portuguese have had a high sense...1% . In short, the
Portuguese do not look to any...

6.


The Portuguese Revolution and the Armed Forces Movement » by Rona M.
Fields. 300 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
...examination of the history of Portugal and of Portuguese behavior
in Africa...outside the context of Portuguese history, nor an
improbability...Samuels, eds., Portuguese...

7.


Political Parties and Democracy in Portugal: Organizations, Elections,
and Public Opinion » by Thomas Bruneau. 145 pgs.

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8.


Who Governs Southern Europe? Regime Change and Ministerial
Recruitment, 1850-2000 (Portuguese Ministers, 1851-1999: Social
Background and Paths to Power begins on p. 5) » by Pedro Tavares de
Almeida, Nancy Bermeo, Antonio Costa Pinto. 242 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
In modern politics, Cabinet ministers are major actors in the arena
of power as they occupy a strategic locus of command from which vital,
authoritative decisions flow continuously. Who are these uppermost
policy makers? What are their background characte

9.


Spain and Portugal Today » by William D. Griffin, Julia L. Ortiz-
Griffin. 242 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
Julia L. Ortiz-Griffin teaches Spanish language and literature in the
City University of New York.

10.

Christopher Columbus and the Portuguese, 1476-1498 » by Rebecca Catz.
138 pgs.

Collections: History, Entire Library
Although much has been written about Columbus's life in Italy and
Spain, little has been written about his formative years in Portugal.
This work is the first book-length analysis of Columbus's stay in
Portugal and Madeira from 1476 to 1485 and his later experiences in
the Portuguese islands of the Azores ...

Although much has been written about 

[AZORES-Genealogy] The Portuguese contribution to our modern civilization - Portuguese history 1415 -1808

[Anthony J. Moniz]

Just found an article about Portuguese history book that may be
interesting reading  ,


The Portuguese Empire, 1415-1808:
A World on the Move
By A. J. R. Russell-Wood
Published by JHU Press, 1998
ISBN 0801859557, 9780801859557
289 pages



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vavo another another another interpretation???

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

Thank God!


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Victorino

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

There are a number of surnamed Vitorino, Victorino, Victorine in the Sacramento 
CA area, as my funeral-notice files show.  Let me know if you'd like to see 
them.
 
Lionel

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The Victorino name is also of interest in my father's family. It first appeared 
as the middle name of my great grandfather Francisco Victorino de Vasconcellos, 
born in Fazenda das Lages, Flores in 1798, son of Francisco Ignacio de 
Vasconcellos. He was the only one of 8 siblings to carry Victorino  ( nowadays 
spelled Vitorino) as a middle name. Most of his descendants (male and female) 
carried it as a middle name including part of my generation. Back in the Azores 
it almost became an alcunha. My first cousin Father Francisco Vitorino 
Vasconcelos (now deceased) and former pastor of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao in 
Santa Cruz, Flores was familiarly known as Padre Vitorino by his parishiners. 
The family is sometimes refered to as Os Vitorinos back on Flores. Some of my 
first cousins back on Flores have Vitorino as a middle name. However, I don't 
know offhand of any of the next generation which have Vitorino as a middle 
name. And, as far as i know, it
 was never used as a surname.
John James Vasconcelos, son of Joao Vitorino Vasconcelos


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Victorina is a name I'm also interested in because my ggrandfather Joseph 
Veterino was really Jose Victorino Bitencourt from Sao Jorge..I've been 
researching the Baptisms recently posted for Topo and I've found lots and lots 
of the name Victorino and Victorina.frequently the name is connected to 
Oliveiras and Bitencourt (which I've seen spelled several different ways)in 
some instances the Victorino name appears to be the surname and in others is a 
middle or first name
The most interesting thing is how certain names are clustered in certain areas 
with Machado being the most frequent name on Sao Jorge in all the different 
areas on line to research.
 
I love the mystery..
Nancy Jean Baptiste..(Baptista)





Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:33:28 -0700
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Hi Elaine, 
Thanks!  I went thru old info I had and found that, yes indeed, both Ritas are 
the same woman, but I'm not sure where the Victorina name came from, and (so 
far) that name only appears in Vencelaos death certificate.  She is Rita Maria 
(de) Mendonca everywhere else.

So, my hunt continues...I will keep all posted.

Guida

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Guida,
 
Welcome to the club where they used any name they so desired at any time they 
so desired.  So it's possible they could be the same woman, especially given 
the first name Rita on both.  On one of my a male relative's baptism record it 
lists pai incognito BUT on his son's baptism record it lists his paternal 
grandfather.  That is how I found how who the father of the male relative with 
pai incognito was--somehow they were willing to admit it later on the grandsons 
record?
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] FW: You know your are Portuguese when or if ....

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

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Subj: You know your are Portuguese when or if 

 




 

 


You Know You're Portuguese When...


- Your mother or grandmother has Maria in her name. 

-You have a rooster napkin holder.

-Your father or grandfather is called Manuel, José, Antonio, or João.

-You have crocheted doilies on your kitchen counters, dining room, living room, 
bedroom--on all your tables.

-You decorate your walls with plates.

-Your house is a mini church with just as may statues of saints and Jesus as 
your church itself.

-You're 25 and still living with your parents. (Extra points if you're married 
and living with your spouse in your parent's house)

-You baptize your child and send him to catechism even though you might never 
go to church except for weddings and funerals.

-You think all university graduates should be called 'Doutor' and like to be 
called so if you are one of the chosen few who have managed to finish college.

-You think that you can catch a cold with a draft or by sitting in the spring 
sun. Cold drinks are also thought to bring on the dreadful 'gripe'. And don't 
let anyone have a shower after eating as something terrible could happen to 
them.

-You think Brazilians speak incorrect Portuguese and will not read a book 
written in Brazilian Portuguese.

-You say that the Portuguese, unlike the Spanish, are good at learning foreign 
languages.

-Your parents own like 9 houses in  Portugal but complain about the lack of 
money in the States.

-Going to  Portugal involves buying gifts for all 500 members of your family

-You go crazy for the World Cup 

-You refer to  Portugal as 'O Continent'

-You've walked in 'as paradas' longer than you can remember…carrying a flag or 
as a queen

-You have grape vines in your backyard

-You earned over $10,000 for your first communion.

-To hell with the  Turkey and Roast Beef! X-mas dinner was bacalhau au braz, 
baby!

-A barbeque does not consist of burgers on the grill... Hello! Can you say 
sardinhas?

-A wooden spoon equals discipline, or if you ever had to duck so you wouldn't 
get hit with flying shoes.

-Your parents anticipate that you'll marry your first long-term 
boyfriend/girlfriend.

-When you hear the word 'Sagres' you think Beer

-Nothing beats a buttered papo-seco.

-Your 15 year old brother is allowed to have two girls sleep over, but your 19 
year old sister can't go out past 7pm.

-Your grandmother tells you look sick because you are too thin.

-Your parents make you eat 3 servings of dinner at each sitting otherwise they 
think you don't like the cooking. 

- Last supper picture in the kitchen, usually above the door frame.

- plastic coverings on the couches.

- You call hamburgers - AMBERGA.

- Instead of garbage being called 'Lixo' it is called 'Garbicho'.

- When you pick up a relative at the airport coming from  Portugal , they 
always smell like mothballs.

-You can hold more than one beer in your hand, plus a shot of Aniz

-you know and own all of Jorge Ferreira's albums

- Don't eat with money on the table it is bad luck

-the mirrors in your house are framed in gold

-Does any one in your family make wine in their garage???

-If you dip stale bread in meat juice

-If your brother and/or father work construction and your mother is a cleaner

-If you have a room in your house where everyone is forbidden to go to or be in 
and the room with your first communion picture.

-If you have grape vines, favas, or couves growing in your back Yard.

-If you talk with your hands while you're on the phone...or just in General

-If you drink wine with everything I MEAN EVERYTHING... 

-If you have a 'tia Maria' and/or 'tio José”

-In your freezer. There is some frozen linguisa or any fish

-If your house has more plants in it than outside it of it

-If you decorate your walls with plates...Tu és Português!!! 

-If you know what Bacalhau or a Malassada/Filhós is

-If you spend 75% of the day cleaning...you're Portuguese! 

-If your live-in kitchen is in your basement.. 

-If you ask your mom 'mãe...what is there to eat?' and she says 'pão com 
Manteiga e queijo”

-you believe that you’ll get a “gripe” if you go outside after a bath/shower

-believing that drinking milk after eating a 'figo' can kill you

-When you were young your grandma would tell you not to walk over someone’s 
legs or else they wont grow
-If you have ever been hit by a 'Chinela ' or 'Fivela' or wooden spoon.

-If you grew up scared by something called 'O Velho'.

-If others tell you to stop screaming when you