Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[danandmaria]

I did speak with her last week, and she mentioned she had 6 people waiting for 
information. She said she would work on all on a first come first served basis. 

- Original Message -

From: "JesseCarvalho89"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 7:03:59 AM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in 
New Bedford, Massachusetts 

Well Cheri, if she doesnt get ahold of you let me know. Maybe i can text her 
and ask for a favor before she goes home from work one day. She is a very nice 
lady and i doubt she would have a problem with it. Keep me posted! 

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 3:10:13 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: 


Jesse, 
I've emailed her twice. I don't know what her work load is nor do I want to 
mess it up for other genealogists. I know that as a church secretary, she's got 
to do the regular day to day parishioner stuff first. So I guess, I'll wait a 
bit longer. Thanks! 
Cheri 

Cheri Mello 
Listowner, Azores-Gen 
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada 

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:34 AM, JesseCarvalho89 < jesseca...@outlook.com > 
wrote: 



i live in new bedford and go to mt carmel. i can have my mom call tammy and see 
when she is free since they are friends and i can try and stop by and get you 
anything if you havent got it yet. let me know! 

On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 2:54:30 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: 


I'm posting about St. John the Baptist and Mount Carmel Churches in New 
Bedford, Massachusetts and how to obtain information from them. That's the 
title of this thread. 

At one point you said St. John's (the subject of this thread) and at another 
point you said St. Mary's in Rhode Island. Not too sure if you know where you 
are looking. So if you aren't talking about St. John the Baptist or Mount 
Carmel in New Bedford, Massachusetts, your query about St. Mary's in RI is 
going to get lost in here. You probably want to start a new posting called "St. 
Mary's in  Rhode Island" and post there. 
Thanks! Cheri 

Cheri Mello 
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada 
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < 
azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: 



Thank you, Cheri. With more requests, maybe someone will try to find the 
information I seek to get us off their back! 
Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com 

 
On Tue, 1/24/17, Cheri Mello < gfsc...@gmail.com > wrote: 

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in 
New Bedford, Massachusetts 
To: "Azores Genealogy" < azo...@googlegroups.com > 
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 8:37 PM 

The church 
secretary just told me to me to put the request in an email 
and she would get back to me. I sent the email on Monday. 
I'll wait and see what I get back. Cheri 

Cheri Mello 
Listowner, 
Azores-Gen 
Researching: São Miguel island: 
Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada 

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 
8:29 PM, < danan...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 
Celest, 

I am leaving 
tomorrow for New Bedford for a funeral at Mount Carmel 
Church. F 
Please 
send me details of all that you need and I will try to get 
it for you. 
Maria 
Moore 
From: 
"'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" 
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To: "azores" < azo...@googlegroups.com > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:13:56 
PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John 
the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts 


Thanks, Joanne, for the 
explanation. I will have to wait to see if I can visit St. 
John's and ask in person for the information. Living 
across the country from them makes it a little difficult. 
Celeste 
Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com 

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wrote: 

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. 
John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts 
To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 5:34 PM 

I’m sorry you 
had that experience, Celeste. My sources tell 
me that 
particular rectory is a bit of a 
mess personnel-wise so 
I’m not sure 
they’d go the extra mile to look in the 
files. Parishes need more encouragement like 
what we’re 
doing in the Archdiocese of 
Boston to get them to give us 
genealogists 
a good helping hand. 

On January 23, 2017 at 
5:33:58 PM, 'celeste perry' via 
Azores Genealogy ( azo...@googlegroups.com ) 
wrote: Hope your 
experience 
is better than mine, Cheri. Today I received the 
letter I wrote to St. Mary's Church in 
Bristol, RI. Not 
a response, really, the 
original paper letter I wrote to 
them. 
At the top of the letter I send was written, 
"Just says "notice sent" Both 
Parties were 
born 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[danandmaria]

Celest, 

I am leaving tomorrow for New Bedford for a funeral at Mount Carmel Church. F 

Please send me details of all that you need and I will try to get it for you. 

Maria Moore 

- Original Message -

From: "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:13:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in 
New Bedford, Massachusetts 


Thanks, Joanne, for the explanation. I will have to wait to see if I can visit 
St. John's and ask in person for the information. Living across the country 
from them makes it a little difficult. 
Celeste 
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 

 
On Tue, 1/24/17, Joanne Mercier  wrote: 

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in 
New Bedford, Massachusetts 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 5:34 PM 

I’m sorry you 
had that experience, Celeste. My sources tell me that 
particular rectory is a bit of a mess personnel-wise so 
I’m not sure they’d go the extra mile to look in the 
files. Parishes need more encouragement like what we’re 
doing in the Archdiocese of Boston to get them to give us 
genealogists a good helping hand. 

On January 23, 2017 at 
5:33:58 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy (azores@googlegroups.com) 
wrote: Hope your 
experience is better than mine, Cheri. Today I received the 
letter I wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI. Not 
a response, really, the original paper letter I wrote to 
them. At the top of the letter I send was written, 
"Just says "notice sent" Both Parties were 
born in Azores." 



Any suggestions that can give me a more 
accurate location of birth is appreciated. 



Celeste, researching "the elusive 
Maria Cristo." 



Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 



 

On Mon, 1/23/17, Cheri Mello  
wrote: 



Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John 
the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts 

To: "Azores Genealogy"  

Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 1:37 PM 



I called this 

morning, and the church secretary, Tammy, 
said the St. John 

books are there. She won't photocopy 
or take a picture 

of the book but will issue a paper 
certificate. I told her 

the certificate doesn't have a blank 
for the 

freguesia/village that the bride and groom 
are from. She 

said to state that in an email to her and 
she'll add it 

in. So now I play "wait and 
see." 

At least we have confirmation that the 
books are there 

as of January 2017. 



Cheri Mello 

Listowner, Azores-Gen 

Researching: São Miguel island: Vila 
Franca, Ponta Garca, 

Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 

Achada 



On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 

at 5:55 PM, Michael Gilfilian  

wrote: 

I emailed them, to ask 

about abaptism certificate for my great 
uncle, within a 

couple weeks I got a rrply back that it 
was on its way. Sent 

them a donation for their kindness and 
time. 

This was after the move to Mt. Carmel. 





Mike 

Piedade, Pico, Cedros, Fayal 





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On Jan 22, 2017, at 

6:04pm, Cheri Mello  

wrote: 



I'll keep that in mind, but in the 
meantime, I need to 

know if anyone has gone there recently and 
utilized the 

books. Thanks! 





















Cheri Mello 



Listowner, Azores-Gen 



Researching: São Miguel island: Vila 
Franca, Ponta Garca, 

Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada 















On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:01 PM, 
"E" Sharp 

 

wrote: 











Cheri, 













If you don't need it anytime 
soon, I will be back 

there beginning August for Madeira 
festival and I am going 

Mt. Carmel for a St. John's marriage 
record also. I am 

also going to the NB Vital Records for the 
papers that were 

actually filled out by bride and groom to 
obtain license. I 

believe they are not easily accessible so 
I am hoping they 

will humor me and try to find them. I 
have them on another 

couple and they had even more info on them 
(even though it 

proved to be incorrect info!!??!!) 













"E". 

















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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii

[danandmaria]

Jo, do you know his parents names and and birthday? I have a Manuel Fragoso de 
Melo born in 1866 but no other info on him besides having 5 sibblings. I do 
have ancestors. Please let me know. 

Maria Moore 
- Original Message -

From: "Cheri Mello"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:47:35 AM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii 

Repost for Jo Mello Hartmann , joa1943 at yahoo.com 

Hi! My maiden name is Mello - my grandfather's name was Manuel Fregoso Mello. 
He was born on one of the Azorean islands in 1866! I believe he emigrated to 
Hawaii in 1881 where he married Maria Medeiros abt 1888/9. Records a little 
shaky. I understand the name Mello was so common in Hawaii the family was using 
Fregoso as their surname while there for a timethat could just be a family 
story..Most of the 16 kids were born in Hawaii, as was my father, Ernest 
Mello in 1901! 

Don't know how common Fragoso/Fregoso was in Azores.. 



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[danandmaria]

Margaret, who is your Fragoso ancestor? 


- Original Message -

From: "Margaret Vicente"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:01:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao 
Miguel 

Well, there might be something to the story as I descend from the Fragoso line 
of Lagoa, however two generations down the line one son carried on with the 
Fragoso name while my ancestor took on the name Meireles. His son, was first 
married in Rabo de Peixe. Linda mentions Madalena carried the name Meireles 
which makes me wonder if there is indeed a connection. 

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:14 PM, JR < jmro...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Manuel de Andrade Fragoso married Maria Madalena do Rego Meireles/Meibeles? 
native of Rabo de Peixe, May 7- 1922. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899_item1/P144.html
 

Rabo de Peixe casamentos- Nov 4- 1896, Jacintho d' Andrade com Escholastica de 
Jesus, dispensados, 4th degree collateral, 17 Oct, (1696?) elle idade de trinta 
sies annos , pescador, viuvo de Maria de Jesus, fallecida n'esta dita fraguesia 
d'onde e natural e seu pai e moradore e foi baptizado, filho de Francisco de 
Andrade e Maria Candida natural da fraguesia de NS da Conceicao dita Villa, e 
ella a nubente d' idade de vinte e nove annos domestica, solteira, natural e 
seus pais d'esta graguesia do Senhor Bom Jesus onde e moradora e foi baptizada, 
filha de Jose Vieira e Maria Izabel...Test- Jose d'Amaral lavrador, morador 
n'esta fraguesia e Joao Pacheco camponez morador na fraguesia do Cabouco... 

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:02:06 PM UTC-5, Linda McLellan wrote: 


Thanks Cherri, I will try to go back and do some more research 

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:13:20 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: 


Linda McL, 

You need to watch out for "family stories." Sometimes, that is what they are - 
just stories. Usually told to amuse the kids (especially before radio and 
television). These kids grew up and became our parents or grandparents and 
retold the stories that they heard as children. And childhood memories can be 
funny things. No one wants to call grandma a liar, but if she is telling a 
story that she heard as a child, it may be just a story that was told to amuse 
her. Little kids are gullible and believe most things they are told. 

Manuel's baptism had margin notes. Only 1 marriage was noted. I think it said 
he married in the 1920s. Those records are not online. I've seen margin notes 
where they noted the marriage, noted that the marriage was dissolved by death 
of the spouse and they married a 2nd time. Could someone have forgot to note a 
marriage? Well, they are human and humans make mistakes. But probably not. The 
only way to be sure would be to order Manuel's marriage from the 1920s and see 
if it says he was the widower of  and is marrying Maria Cabral. 

You need to go back to Manuel's parents' marriage - the marriage of Jacinto 
d'Andrade and Escolastica de Jesus. It's in Rabo de Peixe in 1896. It's going 
to clarify some of your questions above and raise more. 

28 is not too old to get married. Many married when they were older in the 
Azores. 

Cheri Mello 
Listowner, Azores-Gen 
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[danandmaria]

there are Meirreles in Lagoa curently! 

- Original Message -

From: "JR"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:14:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao 
Miguel 

Manuel de Andrade Fragoso married Maria Madalena do Rego Meireles/Meibeles? 
native of Rabo de Peixe, May 7- 1922. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899_item1/P144.html
 

Rabo de Peixe casamentos- Nov 4- 1896, Jacintho d' Andrade com Escholastica de 
Jesus, dispensados, 4th degree collateral, 17 Oct, (1696?) elle idade de trinta 
sies annos , pescador, viuvo de Maria de Jesus, fallecida n'esta dita fraguesia 
d'onde e natural e seu pai e moradore e foi baptizado, filho de Francisco de 
Andrade e Maria Candida natural da fraguesia de NS da Conceicao dita Villa, e 
ella a nubente d' idade de vinte e nove annos domestica, solteira, natural e 
seus pais d'esta graguesia do Senhor Bom Jesus onde e moradora e foi baptizada, 
filha de Jose Vieira e Maria Izabel...Test- Jose d'Amaral lavrador, morador 
n'esta fraguesia e Joao Pacheco camponez morador na fraguesia do Cabouco... 

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:02:06 PM UTC-5, Linda McLellan wrote: 


Thanks Cherri, I will try to go back and do some more research 

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:13:20 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: 


Linda McL, 

You need to watch out for "family stories." Sometimes, that is what they are - 
just stories. Usually told to amuse the kids (especially before radio and 
television). These kids grew up and became our parents or grandparents and 
retold the stories that they heard as children. And childhood memories can be 
funny things. No one wants to call grandma a liar, but if she is telling a 
story that she heard as a child, it may be just a story that was told to amuse 
her. Little kids are gullible and believe most things they are told. 

Manuel's baptism had margin notes. Only 1 marriage was noted. I think it said 
he married in the 1920s. Those records are not online. I've seen margin notes 
where they noted the marriage, noted that the marriage was dissolved by death 
of the spouse and they married a 2nd time. Could someone have forgot to note a 
marriage? Well, they are human and humans make mistakes. But probably not. The 
only way to be sure would be to order Manuel's marriage from the 1920s and see 
if it says he was the widower of  and is marrying Maria Cabral. 

You need to go back to Manuel's parents' marriage - the marriage of Jacinto 
d'Andrade and Escolastica de Jesus. It's in Rabo de Peixe in 1896. It's going 
to clarify some of your questions above and raise more. 

28 is not too old to get married. Many married when they were older in the 
Azores. 

Cheri Mello 
Listowner, Azores-Gen 
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada 








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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[danandmaria]

I have a few Fragoso from Lagoa in my file! 

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From: "Joe Matias"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:54:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao 
Miguel 

What is your father's name and when did he arrive in Canada? 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Linda McLellan < linda.mclella...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Hello All, 

My name is Linda and my father immigrated from Rabo de Peixe, Azores to Canada. 
Our family last name is Fragoso which is very rare. Would love to meet any 
other Fragoso's. 

Thanks 

Linda 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[danandmaria]

Linda, 

I would love to check... Your grandfather was born in Rabo de Peixe? on Feb 23 
1889? Who did he marry in Lagoa? Was that woman your grandmother? 

Maria Moore 

- Original Message -

From: "Linda McLellan"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:46:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao 
Miguel 

There is talk that my grandfather Manuel d'Andrade Fragoso born feb 23 1989 
married a woman in Lagoa. I wonder if this is the same line. 

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 12:12:19 PM UTC-5, danan...@comcast.net wrote: 


I have a few Fragoso from Lagoa in my file! 









From: "Joe Matias" < joe.m...@gmail.com > 
To: "azores" < azo...@googlegroups.com > 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:54:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao 
Miguel 

What is your father's name and when did he arrive in Canada? 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Linda McLellan < linda.mc...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Hello All, 

My name is Linda and my father immigrated from Rabo de Peixe, Azores to Canada. 
Our family last name is Fragoso which is very rare. Would love to meet any 
other Fragoso's. 

Thanks 

Linda 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Ferreira De Couto (born abt. 1920 in Acores/Azores, Portugal and died accidently either in 1956 or 57 in Montreal, Canada)

[danandmaria]

Do you know where he was from in Santa Miguel? 

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From: "Manita M"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:34:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Ferreira De Couto (born abt. 1920 in 
Acores/Azores, Portugal and died accidently either in 1956 or 57 in Montreal, 
Canada) 



Oh my that is so incredibly sad :( 

I have an idea. 

I live in Toronto and I have a contact at the Portuguese consulate. I can try 
asking him? 

Please give her my contact information. 
On Sep 10, 2015 1:15 AM, "'Kelley O'Rourke' via Azores Genealogy" < 
azores@googlegroups.com > wrote: 





I am helping Connie Couto search for her father, Jose Ferreira De Couto, who 
came to Montreal, Canada in March 1954 from Acores/Azores by ship (Sao Miguel) 
to work on a farm. According to Connie, he came with a friend (she cannot 
remember his friend’s name) and was on the first of two ships that came to 
Canada. He was one of the first of a group of Portuguese immigrants to leave 
Acores/Azores. 



The plan was, that he was to come to Montreal, Canada, work on a farm, set up a 
home and then send for his wife, Erania Mediros De Couto who would follow with 
their two daughters. Sadly, he was killed in a hit and run accident either in 
August of 1956 or 1957. Subsequently his wife never made the trip either (she 
died in a car accident in Acores/Azores and is buried there) but his two 
daughters, Esrisanto and Connie emigrated in 1965 with their aunt. 



They never found out where he was buried or what really happened to him. They 
know it was in Montreal but do not know where. Connie (she is now 62) is the 
only remaining living family member and would love to know what really happened 
to her father, Jose and where he is buried in Montreal so she may visit his 
grave. She would like to know as much about his (short-lived) life here in 
Canada. She now resides in Toronto with her family. 



Any pictures or information you could provide would be most welcome. 



Sincerely, 

Kelley O’Rourke, 



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ

[danandmaria]

Joanne, 

see my notes in red in your original message. I do have a few more children of 
Manuel Luiz da Costa Caixinha and Maria do Carmo. Let me know if you want to 
compare notes. 

Thanks, 
Maria Moore 


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From: JR jmro...@gmail.com 
To: azores azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:00:14 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation  Research Help - 
LUIZ 



Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de 
Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel 
Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario 
desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 

Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. 

Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not 
appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is 
not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a 
nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. 


JR 
On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: 




http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html
 




bottom half of page - Manuel Luiz 





blockquote



child of MANOEL LUIZ or in other records 1876 he is named Manuek Luiz da Costa, 
pescador  MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? 




It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in 
another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small box. This nickname is still 
currently used in Rosario. Twhich would mean that there is a family name change 
going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears 
to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS 




Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ 

/blockquote



blockquote



Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. 




This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. 
Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your 
tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! 




Joanne Grota Mercier 


/blockquote



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ

[danandmaria]

Joanne, 

Hopefully you see it now. 

here it is again: 
MANOEL LUIZ in other records (1876) he is named Manuel Luiz da Costa, pescador 
 MARIA DO CARMO 



LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small 
box. This nickname is still currently used in Rosario. 




Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ 

I will be happy to to have a look at your file. Is your Grota line also from 
Lagoa? 


Maria Moore 


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From: danandma...@comcast.net 
To: azores azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:13:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation  Research Help 
- LUIZ 

Joanne, 

see my notes in red in your original message. I do have a few more children of 
Manuel Luiz da Costa Caixinha and Maria do Carmo. Let me know if you want to 
compare notes. 

Thanks, 
Maria Moore 


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From: JR jmro...@gmail.com 
To: azores azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:00:14 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation  Research Help - 
LUIZ 



Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de 
Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel 
Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario 
desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 

Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. 

Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not 
appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is 
not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a 
nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. 


JR 
On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: 




http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html
 




bottom half of page - Manuel Luiz 





blockquote



child of MANOEL LUIZ or in other records 1876 he is named Manuek Luiz da Costa, 
pescador  MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? 




It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in 
another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small box. This nickname is still 
currently used in Rosario. Twhich would mean that there is a family name change 
going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears 
to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS 




Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ 

/blockquote



blockquote



Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. 




This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. 
Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your 
tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! 




Joanne Grota Mercier 


/blockquote



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores: Translation Research Da Costa Furtado De Jesus Oliviera Family Help!

[danandmaria]

They are the same person - his mom was Isabel Cândida /Vieira/ 

Maria Moore 
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From: Jennifer Furtado jenniferfurta...@gmail.com 
To: azores azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 2:55:25 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores: Translation  
Research Da Costa Furtado  De Jesus Oliviera Family Help! 

Hi Manoel Cesar Furtado, 

We might be 4th Cousins listed in Family Finder, but Antonio da Costa Furtado 
was my Great Great Grandfather and Father to Manuel Da Costa Furtado who was 
born in 1883, so I don't think it is possible that Antonio Da Costa Vieira is 
the same person you think he is. I appreciate the help very much and I am sure 
there is a connection somewhere, I am not familiar with any relatives in Brasil 
but it could be that either my Great Grandfather Manuel Da Costa Furtado had 
siblings that went there. 

Jennifer Rae Furtado 









On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-7, mances wrote: 
blockquote

Hi Jennifer, 

We are related according to the Family Finder as 4th cousins! 


I think your ancestor Antonio da Costa Furtado also went by Antonio da Costa 
Vieira. 


Here's what I have found about him: 



Antonio da Costa Vieira x Francisca de Jesus – married in Rosário da Lagoa on 
23 feb 1881 – CCA #36 (58) 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889_item1/P58.html
 




1. He was 27, born in Matriz de Santa Cruz da Lagoa, son of João da Costa, from 
Matriz da Lagoa, and Isabel Candida, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande. 

Antonio was born on 23 march 1853 in Matriz da Lagoa – CCA #94. Godparent: 
Morgado Pedro Jácome Raposo Bicudo Correia, from Matriz de Ponta Delgada. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1851-1855/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1851-1855_item1/P94.html
 

2. She was 24, born in Rosário da Lagoa, daughter of Manuel de Medeiros Santos 
and Maria Ricarda, from Rosário da Lagoa. 


Manoel Cesar Furtado 
(Brasil) 

Em terça-feira, 5 de maio de 2015 01:04:43 UTC-3, Jennifer Furtado escreveu: 
blockquote

Hello, 

I recently have been researching my family tree to try and trace my portuguese 
family history. My fathers oldest cousin that lives in New Bedford, MA Gilbert 
Silva, had started doing a lot of research and went back to Sao Miguel October 
2014. I've been able to go back to my grandfathers parents and hoping to go 
further. If anyone is interested in helping or know an easier way to search the 
books on records, any tips or help will be greatly appreciated. I am trying to 
figure out which ship and where my great grandparents specifically came from 

Grandfather: Julio Costa Furtado (b. 1925 New Bedford, MA - d. 1973 San Diego, 
CA) - Picture Attached of my Grandparents that married January 8, 1946 in New 
Bedford, MA 

Great Grandfather: Manuel Costa Furtado (b. Sept 16, 1883 Lagoa, Sao Miguel - 
d. ) - Picture Attached 
Great Grandmother: Rosa De Jesus Oliveira (1891 -  ) - Picture Attached 

* Looking for Manuel Costa Furtado  Rosa De Jesus Oliveira Marriage Record in 
Sao Miguel 
* Looking for Ship Records of Manuel Costa Furtado and Rosa De Jesus Oliveira, 
they settled in New Bedford, MA and not sure if they took in a ship to Boston. 

Great Great Grandfather: Antonio Costa Furtado 
Great Great Grandmother: Francisca  

*Found Baptism Paperwork for Manuel Costa Furtado but cannot translate it 
(Attached) 

Grandmother: Genevieve Rose Martin (b. 1928 New Bedford, MA - d. 1972 San 
Diego, CA) - Picture Attached of my Grandparents that married January 8, 1946 
in New Bedford, MA 

Great Grandfather: Manuel Rose Martin (b. 1869 Pico - d ) 
Great Grandmother: Mary Sylvia 

Great Great Grandfather: Antone Rose Martin (Pico) 
Great Great Grandmother: Mary Ann  (Pico) 

My DNA Kit is also on Gedmatch.com F345218 

Thank you in advance 

Jennifer Furtado 
jennifer...@gmail.com 




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Nicknames

[danandmaria]

I have a Parreira family from Lagoa 


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Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:47:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Nicknames 

There were Galantes in Lagoa, Acores 

Carlo Galante 

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Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:44:17 -0600 (MDT) 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Nicknames 

I've been searching through various guides about Portuguese naming practices, 
but I haven't found anything related to this question. 

My mother-in-law is a Parreira, but she has mentioned that it is common for 
families to have nicknames. For example, someone by the name of Antonio 
Parreira may be known as a 'Galante' yet the surname 'Galante' is no where to 
be found. Other nicknames I've come across are what appear to be 'rrabola' and 
'Ilhars'. 

Does anyone have an explanation for this? 





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames

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There are some Lindinhas in Lagoa, Sao Miguel 


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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:56:04 PM 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames 

It is most certain that Lindinha is a nickname. 

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De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Kirsten 
Enviada: sábado, 20 de Setembro de 2014 06:19 
Para: azores@googlegroups.com 
Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Nicknames 

I wonder if this explains my Lindinha which I am told is not a proper 
name.my. Great Great Grandmother was Lucinda Augusta Moniz, but per her 
death cert. her father was Mr. Lindinha. Has anyone heard of this as a 
nickname? 
Kirsten 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading maternal grandparent last name

[danandmaria]

Hello everyone, 


Could I ask your help on #17 middle of page, maternal grandparent: Manuel de 
Medeiros  e Joaquina Thomasia 


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P193.html
 


Also on #19 name of father: Manuel Rodrigues Bitencourto ? 


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P194.html
 


Thank you!! 


Maria Moore 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade

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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:55:57 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade 

I would like to ask the group help in translating this record. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889_item1/P130.html
 
Rosário, Óbitos 1880-1889  1883  0012 


I have this family in my file... and so does Hermano Pires 


So far I understand that 11 April 1883 at 11 PM (numa das casas do lugar da 
Atalhada) Rosario parish Villa of Lagoa Maria da Trindade (died after receiving 
the last sacraments. 22 years of age legal daughter Luiz Pereira Lopes and 
Maria de Jesus. buried in public cemetery. 

Not sure if Maria de Jesus is the natural mother (legal daughter of both) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade

[danandmaria]

Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis 
Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus 


the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida 
do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I 
have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 


My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an 
uncle of the second 


Maria Moore 


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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade 

Cheri 
The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and 
having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming 
these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and 
supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead 
record when I came across this record. 
I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. 
Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was 
married before Maria Candida do Rego. 
Edward. 




On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: 






Edward R, 

The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, 
you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents 
were married at the time of your birth. 

She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes  Maria de Jesus. 

Her parents were married at the time of her birth. 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade 





Edward my info is in blue. Yes I do read portugues!! 


Maria 
I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 
to Maria Candida Do Rego 


Maria Trindade 1861-1883 
Maria born 12 oct 1863 
F elicida Augusta born 31 Dec 1865 
Elvira 1867 born 21 Sep 1867 
Luiz 1870-1943 born 5 Jul 1870 
Joao 1873 - born 17 Aug 1873 
Jose 1877-1969- born 5 Feb 1877 

The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am 
believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego 
died. I am looking for the records to support this. 
I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other 
children. 
Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. 
Edward 



On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: 




Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis 
Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus 


the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida 
do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I 
have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 


My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an 
uncle of the second 


Maria Moore 


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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade 

Cheri 
The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and 
having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming 
these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and 
supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead 
record when I came across this record. 
I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. 
Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was 
married before Maria Candida do Rego. 
Edward. 




On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: 



blockquote


Edward R, 

The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, 
you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents 
were married at the time of your birth. 

She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes  Maria de Jesus. 

Her parents were married at the time of her birth. 


Cheri Mello 
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Achada 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Pontiff

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I have a few in my file that are /Pontifico/ with previous generations being 
Pontifice da Costa 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Pontiff 


What would that name be in Portuguese if its even is?? I am looking for a death 
for a Ernest Pontiff he married Sarah Pereira, I found her death info but not 
his. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores

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Karen, 


I probably could answer your question of why your grandmother came a year after 
her parents. The cost of the voyage. 


Maria Moore 


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores 


My grandmother came to the US when she was 4. She traveled with 2 aunts and an 
uncle. Her parents were already here. I wish I had asked her way back when as 
to why her parents came almost a whole year ahead of her when she was so young. 
They all came in through Rhode Island and settled in New Bedford. Some stayed 
there for a while. Others left right away for Mendocino County in California. 
Karen Huffman 



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When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come to the USA, is there any 
typical situation that would bring them over? coming with parents? coming with 
husband? would they have traveled over with an older or younger brother? Would 
she have traveled over alone if another family member already here? 
I'm trying to find a clue to connect my great aunt Francisca to my great 
grandfather Jose to maybe narrow down some of the search results for traveling 
into the USA 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy 7th Birthday to the Azores Genealogy List!

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Congratulations Cheri and many thanks for all your work and support!! 


Happy Birthday Azores List!! 


Maria in Nashville 





From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:35 PM 
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy 7th Birthday to the Azores Genealogy List! 



This list will be 7 years old on the 27th! The first post was on the 28th. I 
can't believe this has been going on 7 years already! 

Today, our 1000th member signed up! There are 1000 email addresses subscribed 
to his list now. Seven years ago, I thought I would wind up with 300 or maybe 
350 members. As those numbers approached, I thought maybe 500 would be it. I'm 
amazed at the number of people doing Azorean genealogy. 

May the list, our web site at Azores Gen Web, and especially the spirit of 
helping among our members continue for more years to come! 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with meaning.

[danandmaria]

na referida paroquiain the refered parish 

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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:23:55 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with meaning. 






Hi All, 



I am attaching a clip from a record. 



The 5 th line reads Eugenia baptizado na vefferida Pioxah 



I think it means Eugenia baptism not verified in this Parish? Or am I missing 
something? 





Rick 



Richard Francis Pimentel 

Spring, TX 

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 



Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao 
Miguel, Acores 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado from N. S. da Luz, Freguesia de Saõ Laurenço, ilha do Fail

[danandmaria]

Hello 

I am looking for anyone who might be doing research in the island of Faial. 
Looking for: 

Maria da Luz /Furtado/ born abt 1827 in the parish of N. S. da Luz, Freguesia 
de Saõ Laurenço, ilha do Fail daughter of Manuel Furtado e Anna Jacinta both 
from Freguesia dos Flamengos, Faial 

Thank you in advance! 

Maria Moore 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help looking for Grandparants Lagoa, Sao Miguel

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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:55:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help looking for Grandparants Lagoa, Sao Miguel 

Rich 
so far I have on the four day of the month of June of the year of one thousand 
eight hundred sixty seven in the parish of holy cross ( Santa Cruz ) in the 
city of the villa of the lagoon diocese in our presented Antonio Da Costa 
Medeiro and Rosa Izabel da Carmo without non impedaments for civil marriage he 
of the age of 18 years and natural and baptisted (occupation? camponio ) from 
the parish of rosario and where he lives in this villa Rosario son of Francisco 
da Costa and Antonia Emilia do Coracao legal son of Francisco da Costa Medeiro 
natural already mention villiage of Rosario and da Antonia Emilia Corascao de 
Jesus. Natural of this villiage de Santa Cruz and she of the age 20 years 
single dressmaker natural baptisted in the villiage of the holy cross the same 
already mention legal daughter of Antonio Tavares natural of the same Jacintha 
Rosa natural of parish Sao Raque Lagoa of Rasto de Paa of the same diocese 
inhabitant 
need to see if I am on the right track? 
Thanks Ed 



On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: 





Hi Ed, 

I started a new thread so it can be followed easier. 

It sounds like the information you need is the marriage of your 
great-grandparents Antonio da Costa and Maria Rosa Isabel. If your information 
is correct about Lagoa then you need to search the marriage records in that 
location. The two churches are Santa Cruz which is the Matriz or mother church 
and Nossa Senhora das Necessidades a newer and smaller church. The film from 
the family history center is Marriages for Santa Cruz #1438008 which has the 
marriage records from 1555 – 1870. I would start at the very end of the film 
and work back based on the fact that Jose da Costa was born on 15 Jun 1870. If 
he was the first child then you should be able to find the marriage record 
fairly easily. 

I do not have the information on NS Necessidades so I am not sure what years 
their records cover perhaps someone else on the list knows but I would look on 
that film only if I did not find them on the one above. 

But wait I just remembered Logoa is on the CCA website Check this record out 
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SMLAGSTCC1860-1869/SMLAGSTCC1860-1869_item1/P108.html
 The brides name is off a little but I think it is your great-grandparents. I 
will let others weigh in on this. The marriage date is 4 Jun 1867. 


Rick 

Richard Francis Pimentel 
Spring, TX 
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao 
Miguel, Acores 




Sent by Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net 

Rick 
Not sure if you can help me I am just a beginner my great great grandparents 
are reported to have come from Lagoa Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. Antonio da 
Costa about 1835 and his wife Maria Rosa Isabel about 1839 had a son Jose da 
Costa 15 Jun 1870 and three girl all listed as Maria 1872,1877 and 1881. 
Maybe you can point me where to start. 
Thanks Ed 



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help looking for Grandparants Lagoa, Sao Miguel

[danandmaria]

António /da Costa Medeiros/ son of Francisco /da Costa Medeiros/ and Antónia 
Emilia // 

married on 4 Jun 1867 in St. Cruz to Rosa Isabel do Carmo /Tavares/ daughter of 
Antonio/Tavares/ and Jacintha Rosa /Ferreira/ 

I have them having a son born on15 Sep 1876 in Rosario named Francisco /da 
Costa/ 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:14:08 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help looking for Grandparants Lagoa, Sao Miguel 




Hi Ed, 



I started a new thread so it can be followed easier. 



It sounds like the information you need is the marriage of your 
great-grandparents Antonio da Costa and Maria Rosa Isabel. If your information 
is correct about Lagoa then you need to search the marriage records in that 
location. The two churches are Santa Cruz which is the Matriz or mother church 
and Nossa Senhora das Necessidades a newer and smaller church. The film from 
the family history center is Marriages for Santa Cruz #1438008 which has the 
marriage records from 1555 – 1870. I would start at the very end of the film 
and work back based on the fact that Jose da Costa was born on 15 Jun 1870. If 
he was the first child then you should be able to find the marriage record 
fairly easily. 



I do not have the information on NS Necessidades so I am not sure what years 
their records cover perhaps someone else on the list knows but I would look on 
that film only if I did not find them on the one above. 



But wait I just remembered Logoa is on the CCA website Check this record out 
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SMLAGSTCC1860-1869/SMLAGSTCC1860-1869_item1/P108.html
 The brides name is off a little but I think it is your great-grandparents. I 
will let others weigh in on this. The marriage date is 4 Jun 1867. 





Rick 



Richard Francis Pimentel 

Spring, TX 

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 



Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao 
Miguel, Acores 









Sent by Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net 



Rick 

Not sure if you can help me I am just a beginner my great great grandparents 
are reported to have come from Lagoa Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. Antonio da 
Costa about 1835 and his wife Maria Rosa Isabel about 1839 had a son Jose da 
Costa 15 Jun 1870 and three girl all listed as Maria 1872,1877 and 1881. 

Maybe you can point me where to start. 

Thanks Ed 





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Lagoa

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Ed, 

I have a Large file on Lagoa. Do you know which parish? Rosario or St. Cruz? 
Lagoa is not in Ponta Delgada. Did Jose marry there? Do you have any other 
info? There are MANY Antonio da Costa from Lagoa. 

Maria Moore 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:26:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records I have Compiled. 

Rick 
Not sure if you can help me I am just a beginner my great great grandparents 
are reported to have come from Lagoa Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. Antonio da 
Costa about 1835 and his wife Maria Rosa Isabel about 1839 had a son Jose da 
Costa 15 Jun 1870 and three girl all listed as Maria 1872,1877 and 1881. 
Maybe you can point me where to start. 
Thanks Ed 



On Dec 26, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: 





Hi All, 

I know there are many new members of this list out there that do not know this 
so I want to let them know. 

As some of my friends know I have been working on marriages from Nossa Senhora 
da Estrela, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel for some time. At this point I have over 
1500 marriages compiled from 1784 -1828. There are some marriages I do not have 
completed because of the records being difficult to read. I also have all the 
marriages from Santissimo Salvador in Ribeirinha Sao Miguel for the years 1836 
-1883. If you are looking for people in these two parishes I am willing to 
help. 

There are other members on this list that also have extensive data perhaps this 
is a good time to let everyone know what they have compiled. 

Rick 

Richard Francis Pimentel 
Spring, TX 
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao 
Miguel, Acores 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re:I know about your troubles and I want to help you my friend!

[danandmaria]

.You�ll lose your control!  http://j13.free.fr/m.friends.page.php?zopage=41q3

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Lagoa (Rosário): de Andrade, de Souza

[danandmaria]

Matt, 

Can you give a little more detail on your Lagoa names. 

Maria Moore 
- Original Message - 
From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com 
To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2011 9:45:31 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel names and places; Santa Maria names and 
places 

Repost for Matt, ma_jo_pa at yahoo.com 

Thanks to all who have helped me over the past few years on this 
site. Haven't been on in awhile, but now the research continues! :-) 

Researching from São Miguel: 

Fajã de Baixo: do Rego, de Souza 
Bretanha: Cabral 
Maia: de Medeiros, do Rego 
Achada: Rebello 
Rabo de Peixe: de Almeida, da Costa Sais, Cabral, da Camara, Cabral 
de Mello, Rodrigues, Gracia, George/Jorge 
Lagoa (Rosário): de Andrade, de Souza 

Researching from Santa Maria: 

São Pedro: dos Santos, de Andrade 
N.S. da Purificação: de Moura 

There are also some other lines that I've either exhausted the 
resources and/or completed. The above are the active ones. Thanks 
to anybody who can help, and I will share what I can as well. 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Happy New Year

[danandmaria]

A very Happy and Blessed New Year! 



Maria Moore 

Nashville, TN 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help finding baptism location of Victorina Ermelinda

[danandmaria]

Rosario , Lagoa, S. Miguel 


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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:11:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help finding baptism location of Victorina 
Ermelinda 




Nossa Senhora do Rosario in the town of Lajes. I'd say on the island of Flores. 

Eric Edgar 


On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Margaret Vicente  margaretvice...@gmail.com  
wrote: 


Jesse, it says she was baptized and in the same Parish of NS Rosario. 


Margaret 





On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Jesse Pacheco  pacheco.jess...@gmail.com  
wrote: 


Hi all. Could someone tell me where Victorina Ermelinda was baptised? 

http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file03/objects/0/9/4/30945703-96f5-430e-87d3-4a6d7359e82e-0.jpg
 

She is the woman getting married in this casamento. I cannot figure out what it 
says for her, and haven't been able to find her record so I want to make sure 
I'm looking in the right parish. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Amalia Rodrigues -

[danandmaria]

Imagine my surprise when I get in my car and Amalia is singing on the radio.  
This is an interesting story on NPR. 




http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130357207 





http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130357207 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130357207

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name

[danandmaria]

I think you both share ancestors with Etta Daniels - etta...@attbi.com   (via F 
rancisca /Pereira/ and João Bento /de Sousa) 



Margaret, who is your great great grandfather? 



Maria Moore 


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From: Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:51:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name 

Hi Jesse, 


Helena do Espirito Santo dos Santos daughter of Antonio Jacinto Bento and Maria 
dos Santos was born on May 27 1814 in Agua de Pau, and is my great-great aunt.  
She is my great great grandmother Ana Candida dos Santos' sister.   


Antonio Jacinto Bento, my gggf who was born Oct 20 1791, son of Joao Bento de 
Sousa and Francisca Pereira. 


Yes, there is Luiz as a surname in the family.  Francisca Pereira born on Mar 
3rd 1762 was the daughter of Manuel Pereira and  Barbara Luiz. 




Margaret Vicente 


On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Jesse Pacheco  pacheco.jess...@gmail.com  
wrote: 


 Hi everyone. Once again I am posting about a family I have mentioned 
previously but with new information behind me, which has, as always, brought 
new questions. I will give some background information first to leave out any 
room for error. 

My great great grandmother was Maria da Resureicao d'Andrade. Since this branch 
was estranged from my family, all of my information on them is from my own 
research. 

I can confirm that she was born 2 Apr 1888 from her SSDI record; I can confirm 
the death is hers from the obituary I found. From this information, I learned 
that she was born in Lagoa, SM, and her father's name was Antone (Antonio) 
Andrade and her mother was Mary Rose Moniz. Incidentally, Maria R.'s eventual 
mother in law was named Rosalina. It is that fact that gives me reason to 
believe that confusion may have occurred. 

With the help of Maria Moore from the list, I located a baptismo in Rosario, 
Lagoa, SM for a Maria born 2 Apr 1888 to Antonio d'Andrade Caggarinho and Maria 
Jose. Although Jose is very different in sound from Rose, they are only one 
letter off; I believe that there was a mistake, somewhere along the line, and 
Jose may have been misread by someone having Rosalina in mind, possibly a 
grandchild who had never known their grandparents who remained in the Azores. 
This is only my theory. 

What the theory does not explain, though is the Moniz surname. The earliest 
record I have of Moniz is Maria Resureicao's marriage record, where her mother 
is listed as Maria Moniz and her mother-in-law as Rosa Luiz. 

I have traced the family four to five generations back into the Azores, and 
this is Maria Jose Moniz's lineage: 

Maria Jose born 15 Apr 1853 to Manuel de Botelho and Elena do Espirito Santo. 

Manuel de Botelho was the son of Joze Botelho and Luzia Ignacia, the paternal 
grandson of Joze Botelho and Secilia Medeiros, and the maternal grandson of 
Estevao da Ponte and Jozefa Pacheca. 

Elena do Espirito Santo was the daughter of Antonio Jacinto (no surname, just 
Jacinto) and Maria dos Santos, the paternal granddaughter of Joao Bento and 
Francisco Pereira, and the maternal granddaughter of Antonio Fereira and 
Thereza dos Santos. 

Nowhere in  the lineage is a Moniz (or a Luiz, though I'm pretty sure that has 
nothing to do with the family) and I am wondering where it may have come from. 
I am wondering if Maria Jose's father Manuel Botelho may have become Manuel 
Botelho Moniz at some point in his life, but I have two of his casamentos and 
he is just Botelho on both. I haven't been able to find his obito yet; he was 
born in 1797 in Agua do Pau, so I think the records are available for me to 
look online. 

I wanted to post about this first, though; does anyone else have any mysterious 
names like I do, or did I have a mistake in my research and this family is not 
even mine? I have been extra careful about that with this family since I had so 
little information of my own, so I hope that's not the case! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is this Joam de Medeiros my Joao do Rego? (Rosario, La...

[danandmaria]

if all my  files match, maternal grandmother was de Medeiros 

MM 
- Original Message - 
From: lisa lema brat.l...@hotmail.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 6:20:28 PM 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is this Joam de Medeiros my Joao do Rego? 
(Rosario, La... 

May I ask why Joam de Medeiros became Joao do Rego? I am confused as to the 
name change. I am related to Joao do Rego Coelho and wonder if these are one 
and the same person. Thank You in advance. 






From: marra...@cs.com 
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:43:34 -0400 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is this Joam de Medeiros my Joao do Rego? 
(Rosario, La... 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 

In a message dated 9/12/2010 3:41:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
pacheco.jess...@gmail.com writes: 


John, thanks very much for the help. This makes me think that the Joam Medeiros 
really IS my Joao do Rego, because it says his father was Manuel Teves. 

You are welcome. Good luck! 

John 
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John, thanks very much for the help. This makes me think that the Joam Medeiros 
really IS my Joao do Rego, because it says his father was Manuel Teves. 

You are welcome. Good luck! 

John 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The name Ezaltina

[danandmaria]

Most Azorean girls had a double name with Maria being the first followed by a 
Saint's name, or some other religious application of the name Mary. Examples 
are Mary of the Angels, Mary of the Conception, Mary of the 
Resurrection.  In many cases, Maria was not used, but the second name was 
used. Example: dos Anjos, or Conceicao, or Goreti.  



It wouldn't be surprising that you wouldn't hear Maria within the family. You 
typically heard the second name. Luisa or Evangelina were my aunts, but all 
had the first name Maria. 



Maria Moore (alias Maria Goreti). 









Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30:48 PM 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The name Ezaltina 


Same as my family from Sao Miguel, but my mother's aunt's name was Saltina. I 
just know if they had Mary or Maria as a name, it seems they were nicknamed 
like Marquinas or what they did for work. I know it was calling them Tia or 
Madringha (Godmother) or Prima or Vavao. I never even heard Maria within the 
family. My immediate cousins had different names, none were Mary or Maria so I 
think they did start using other names; Dulce, Guiomar, Lubelia, Annabella, 
Grace, Louisa, etc. 


Linda Borges Furtado Norton   


From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Denise 
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:33 AM 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The name Ezaltina 


My grandmother had a cousin named Cizaltina, that's along the same lines as 
Ezaltina.  She would have been born in the early 1900s as well.  I don't know 
the origins of the name, but they were also from Sao Miguel.  My grandmothers 
family also had the tradition of naming all the girls Maria something or 
other.  My grandmother did not get named Maria because she was born in 
Massachusetts and her sisters had problems at school with the similar names.  
As far as I know, her cousin Cizaltina did not have Maria attached to it.  The 
use of Maria before any name is pure choice of the parents.  

Denise D'Antona  









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From: mnk kamis...@comcast.net 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 10:33 am 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The name Ezaltina 


Well, Ezaltina was my mother's middle name and she was born on Sao
Miguel in the 1920's.  (my grandparents did have very creative names
for their girls.)  Supposedly my grandfather had seen my mother's
name, Ligia in a book he read, not sure where he came up with Ezaltina
or what the origin of the name is.
Maria Natalia
.

On Sep 10, 7:38 am, Jesse Pacheco  pacheco.jess...@gmail.com  wrote:
   Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone knows what the name Ezaltina
 means, and how far it dates back. I'm really just curious.

 Just in case, I'm not 100% sure this is actually a Portuguese name. I
 recently found a previously unknown child who died at one month of my
 great great grandparents, Manuel J Medeiros Quarenta and Filomena Gloria
 Rego. The baby was Ezaltina. The baby was born in 1909 after the parents
 had been in America for three years, so maybe they heard the name over
 here? I searched the group and only found one mention of an Ezaltina
 born on one of the islands.

 Ironically, she was the first and only (so far) girl they had not named
 Maria.

 I was wondering, if anyone is familiar with this name, is it usually a
 stand alone, or does it follow Maria i.e. Maria Ezaltina. Obviously,
 anything is possible, but I just found it funny that this family with
 their eight daughters named Maria would change their minds.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602

[danandmaria]

Can anyone help with reading the following:  




http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL1875-1883_item1/P198.html
 



Number #1665 4601 

Joao d'almeida filhoe de Francisco d'Almeida e Francisca Thomasia 



4602 - 



???  Rodrigues Pimentel 



Thank you!! 



Maria Moore

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602

[danandmaria]

THank you George ! 




- Original Message - 
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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:52:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602 

João de Almeida Proprietos Son of Francisco de Almeida and of 
Francisca Thomazia age 49, from Rosario Lagoa going to Brasil and 
could not read or write. 

George 
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM,  danandma...@comcast.net wrote: 
 Can anyone help with reading the following: 
 
 
 
 http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL1875-1883_item1/P198.html
  
 
 
 
 Number #1665 4601 
 
 Joao d'almeida filhoe de Francisco d'Almeida e Francisca Thomasia 
 
 
 
 4602 - 
 
 
 
 ???  Rodrigues Pimentel 
 
 
 
 Thank you!! 
 
 
 
 Maria Moore 
 
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Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Registo de Passaportes translation

[danandmaria]

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From: Lil ljfr...@gmail.com 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2010 6:43:45 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Registo de Passaportes translation 

Olá grupo açoriano - 

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/passaportes/default.aspx?divisao=3 

I'm having trouble reading this Registo de Passaportes: (link above) 

  ??  65      1905 Janeiro 18            passaporte:   52   Passageiros : 
103  nome:  Jacintho Furtado              filiação:      Manuel Furtado e Luisa 
Maria or Liduina de Jesus    S    idade?:  30   concelho:   Nordeste   
freguesia:   S. Jorge  ocupação?:   trabalhador-worker    : sabe escrever 
(knows how to write): N  América 

I will be most grateful if anyone can fill in the ??? blanks for me.  obrigado 

(p.s. are there any hints/tips on how to best search this site?) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SS Homeland March 22, 1954

[danandmaria]

Maggie, 



I have a picture of the group from S. Miguel that left on  27 de Abril de 1954. 
on the Nielix from P. Delgada to  Halifax . 


- Original Message - 
From: maggie theproct...@sympatico.ca 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:34:53 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] SS Homeland March 22, 1954 

Does anyone have photos of the SS Homeland or of the Acorean 
immigrants who left Sao Miguel on March 22, 1954 for Halifax? 

Thanks in advance, 

Maggie 

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- Original Message - 
From: maggie theproct...@sympatico.ca 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:34:53 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] SS Homeland March 22, 1954 

Does anyone have photos of the SS Homeland or of the Acorean 
immigrants who left Sao Miguel on March 22, 1954 for Halifax? 

Thanks in advance, 

Maggie 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ortins from Graciosa

[danandmaria]

Anyone working on the island of Graciosa?  Looking for the Ortins name. 



Thanks you! 

Maria Moore

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading marriage for Amaro da Costa

[danandmaria]

Celeste, 



Your file seems to be blank. 



Maria 
- Original Message - 
From: celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:49:30 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading marriage for Amaro da Costa 

In my file I find Manoel Corvello and Angela Fernandes.  I think they are my 
husband, Bob's 6th great-grandparents.  Here is what I have for the descendants 
of this couple.  Celeste, Hayward, CA 

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 

--- On Sun, 7/18/10, Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br wrote: 



From: Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading marriage for Amaro da Costa 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 5:04 PM 



This is what I got from that records only to mention the names 

31/Aug/1697 

were married Amaro da Costa, son of Francisco da Costa and Maria do L 

and Maria Fernandes, daughter of Manoel Corvello and Angela Fernandes. 

all from this parish where were baptized in Nossa Senhora do  

according to the books 

Witnesses Manoel de Souza (criado - someone that worked for them ) 

and Antonio da Costa his (Stepson = Enteado ), Domingos de Souza 

and more people and sign the priest Antonio Francisco Correa. 


I dont know who is the step father of Antonio da Costa 
I imagine the name of Francisco's wife is Maria do Livramento 
Antonio Paes, right in the begining of the record is the Ombudsman 

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA 
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha 
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. 

--- Em dom, 18/7/10, Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com escreveu: 



De: Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com 
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading marriage for Amaro da Costa 
Para: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Data: Domingo, 18 de Julho de 2010, 19:17 


I was hoping for a second (or third, fourth, etc :) ) set of eyes to help me 
with this. The handwriting isn't too bad, and neither is the image quality but 
I'm not recognizing the names I'm seeing. I don't know if they're just ones I'm 
not familiar with or if I'm just seeing the wrong thing. 

Here is a link to the image: 

http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file01/objects/5/7/4/15747ecb-60ea-499f-b76d-0511c4d6e0af-0.jpg
 

I can attach the file, though, if that's easier for anyone. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancient Furtado's from Ponta Garça

[danandmaria]

Does anyone have a: 



Mariano Furtado dos Anjos  Ponta Garça born 12 may 1899 - not sure who is 
parents are.  I was told that he was born in Rosario, but do not find him.   
Possibly born in Ponta Garca.   He is married to Maria do Rosário Moniz 
/Fonseca / 



Thanks 



Maria Moore 

Mariano Furtado dos Anjos  Ponta Garça born 12 may 1899 - not sure who is 
parents are.  I was told that he was born in Rosario, but do not find him.   
Possibly born in Ponta Garca.   He is married to Maria do Rosário Moniz 
/Fonseca / 



Thanks 



Maria Moore 
- Original Message - 
From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 7:36:28 AM 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancient Furtado's from Ponta Garça 

Oh I forgot so I'm in that Ponta Garca gang as well and I said to take me 
out. Sorry! 

Thanks Manoel. 

Linda Borges Furtado Norton 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mances 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:03 PM 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancient Furtado's from Ponta Garça 

Hi Linda, 

My Furtado surname came from Ana Furtado, from Ponta Garça, and then also 
from Maria Furtado from Vila Franca do Campo d. of Manuel Correia and 
Margarida Furtado who is a common ancestor that I share with Cheri Mello and 
probably with many other cousins on the list. 

Ana Furtado, m. to Francisco da Costa sapateiro, was daughter of Ana Furtado 
and Antonio da Costa Salgado, and grand-daughter of Aleixo Furtado and Maria 
Curvelo, all of them from Ponta Garça. 
Aleixo Furtado was probably born around 1580 – 1600, and I only could 
realize that he was my oldest known ancestor carrying down the surname 
Furtado due to the notarial records of Vila Franca do Campo since the 
marriage records of Ponta Garça before 1690 or so are all lost. 
On 25 sep 1668 Ana Furtado and her husband Antonio da Costa Salgado sold a 
real state ( 3 alqueires) that she had received as dowry from her parents 
Aleixo Furtado and Maria Curvelo. 

That´s how it goes: 

Aleixo Furtado m. to Maria Curvelo (from Ponta Garça) / Ana Furtado m. to 
Antonio da Costa Salgado / Ana Furtado m. to Francisco da Costa sapateiro / 
Maria Furtado m. to Mateus de Sousa / Vicente Furtado m. to Ana Furtado 
(ggdaughter of Margarida Furtado from Vila 
Franca) 
/ 
José Furtado [de Sousa] m. to Rita de Jesus [Vieira] 

And so on... up to me, here in Brazil!! 


Manoel Cesar Furtado 


-Mensagem original- 
De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] Em nome de 
Linda Norton Enviada em: sábado, 17 de julho de 2010 17:32 
Para: azores@googlegroups.com 
Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz 

Rick and Shirley, 

Would this any part of Braz's or Maria Furtada's lines? 

546.Francisco da Costa  was born about 1675 in Povoação, São Miguel, 
Açores. He died on 8 Mar 1747 in Ponta Garça, São Miguel, Açores. He married 
Ana Furtado on 20 Aug 1698 in Ponta Garça, São Miguel, Açores. 

about 64 years old, spouse of Anna Furtada, did not make a will account too 
poor, buried in NS de Piedade,  Ponta Garca Sapateiro 


547.Ana Furtado  was born about 1695 in Ponta Garça, São 
Miguel, 
Açores. She died on 12 Nov 1762 in Ponta Garça, São Miguel, Açores. 

was about 80 years old, viuva de Francisco da Costa, both buried in NS de 
Piedade of this church. 


548.Francisco da Costa *  was born in Matriz da Ribeira Grande, 
São Miguel, Açores. He married Maria Furtado on 2 Jan 1707 in Matriz de Vila 
Franca, São Miguel, Açores. 

549.Maria Furtado  was born about 1691 in Matriz de Vila 
Franca, 
São Miguel, Açores. 

550.João da Costa  was born in Matriz de Vila Franca, São 
Miguel, Açores. He married Francisca da Costa on 24 May 1728 in Matriz de 
Vila Franca, São Miguel, Açores. 

551.Francisca da Costa  was born in Matriz de Vila Franca, São 
Miguel, Açores. 


  


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Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Costa Galego from Lagoa, Sao Miguel

[danandmaria]

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:29:39 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Costa Galego from Lagoa, Sao Miguel 

  Hi group. I've seen the Costa Galego surname very often in my 
research, but it wasn't until recently that I found my own connection to 
it. I wanted to find out who else was researching this surname. 

I have Andre da Costa Galego married in 1753 to Antonia do Rego Baldaia). Their 
daughter was Jozefa do Rego. 

Andre's parents were Manoel da Costa Galego and Barbara da Payva. 
(Antonia's were Francisco C(?) do Rego 

Francisco /Pacheco da Fonseca/ 

and Maria do Rego) Baldaia and Maria do Rego) Baldaia 



I think Celest and Hermano have researched these names.  I also have some info 
I will send it to you. 




This is all the information I have at the moment but I thought maybe it 
was far enough back to connect with someone. Thanks! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Peter REGO b. Sant Cruz Lagoa 10 January 1874

[danandmaria]

- Original Message - 
From: Marjorie Perry me...@roadrunner.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 3:44:14 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Peter REGO b. Sant Cruz  Lagoa  10 January 1874 

Dear List members, 

If while any of you are searching the  baptism records for Santa Cruz , 
Lagoa ,Sao Miguel and you see the name Pedro de REGO [ Peter Rego] would you 
please let me know what the record says? 

I have been searching for the names of his parents to no avail. 

I have the following from various records here in the states. 
His draft Reg Card New Bedford, MA states he was b. 10 Jan 1874. His name on 
this record Pedro do REGO. 
 A conversation with the priest at Our lady of Mt Carmel, New Bedford, MA 
confirms his birth as recorded on his son John's baptism record as  Santa 
Cruz, Lagoa, Sao Miguel. His parents name not listed. 
He emigrated in 1895 and was naturalized in 1904 according to the 1920 
census New Bedford, MA. 
The Naturalization records  on Ancestry.com shows he was naturalized 25 June 
1905. He was living in Fall River at the time. It also confirms his date of 
birth as 10 Jan 1874. It does not give his date of arrival. 
His death record 21 Oct 1942 New Bedford, mA., states -names of father  
mother CANNOT be learned. 

I have his marriage date and the information on all his children. 

Unfortunately I DO NOT read Portuguese and current problems with my eyesight 
makes it even more difficult to try to read the records now available from 
Lagoa that are on line. 
Should anyone run across this name I would very much appreciate knowing what 
the record says. 

Thank you 

Marge [Howes] PERRY 


  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Perry/Ventura Lagoa, Sao Miguel

[danandmaria]

I might have shared this aLREADYI have this family in my file: 



Manuel Francisco /Pereira/  born 14 Feb 1880 in Santa Cruz, living na Rua do 
Castelo 1899 son of  José Francisco /Pereira/ from Agua de Pau e Maria da 
Estrella // from st. Cruz married on 16 Nov 1896 in Rosario to Maria do Rosário 
/do Rego Ventura/ born 3 Oct 1874 in Rosario daughter of 

Manuel /do Rego Ventura/  alias ( Manuel do Rego Boaventura 1902, Manuel do 
Rego 1876; Manuel Ventura 1881) and Francisca Izabel /d'Andrade/ 



Have 3 kids and date of birth and another generation back ON vENTURA side. 



Maria Moore 


- Original Message - 
From: \E\ Sharp bellema...@gmail.com 
To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:05:04 AM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Perry/Ventura Lagoa, Sao Miguel 

This is not much to go on, but for now, it is all I have thus far. 

According to his obit, Manuel F. Perry, Jr. b. abt. 1905 Lagoa, Sao 
Miguel d. 1987 Fairhaven MA.  He married a Virginia Souza in the US. 
His parents are listed as Manuel F. Perry and Mary Rosario Ventura, 
both probably born abt. 1880.  The parents came to the US in 1910 with 
their children Manuel, Joseph and John according to census records. 
Their first child, Charles, was born in US was born in  New Bedford MA 
in Jan. 1912, then Mary Lucy, and Virginio in 1916.  I have the 
family in 1920 and 1930 census records.  I am trying to find their 
ship's manifest and where exactly in Sao Miguel parents came from.  I 
am also trying to find death records (so I can get obits, of course) 
for parents probably in the New Bedford area. I have birthdates for 
children b. in US.  Do NEGHS records go to 1915 now?  as a couple of 
these kids were born between 1910-1915 and that might give me more 
info other than Azores of where the parents were born. 

Anyone related to this family? 
Thanks 
E 

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- Original Message - 
From: \E\ Sharp bellema...@gmail.com 
To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:05:04 AM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Perry/Ventura Lagoa, Sao Miguel 

This is not much to go on, but for now, it is all I have thus far. 

According to his obit, Manuel F. Perry, Jr. b. abt. 1905 Lagoa, Sao 
Miguel d. 1987 Fairhaven MA.  He married a Virginia Souza in the US. 
His parents are listed as Manuel F. Perry and Mary Rosario Ventura, 
both probably born abt. 1880.  The parents came to the US in 1910 with 
their children Manuel, Joseph and John according to census records. 
Their first child, Charles, was born in US was born in  New Bedford MA 
in Jan. 1912, then Mary Lucy, and Virginio in 1916.  I have the 
family in 1920 and 1930 census records.  I am trying to find their 
ship's manifest and where exactly in Sao Miguel parents came from.  I 
am also trying to find death records (so I can get obits, of course) 
for parents probably in the New Bedford area. I have birthdates for 
children b. in US.  Do NEGHS records go to 1915 now?  as a couple of 
these kids were born between 1910-1915 and that might give me more 
info other than Azores of where the parents were born. 

Anyone related to this family? 
Thanks 
E 

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Manuel /do Rego Ventura/  alias ( Manuel do Rego Boaventura 1902, Manuel do 
Rego 1876; Manuel Ventura 1881) and Francisca Izabel /d'Andrade/ 



Have 3 kids and date of birth and another generation back ON vENTURA side. 



Maria Moore 


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From: \E\ Sharp bellema...@gmail.com 
To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:05:04 AM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Perry/Ventura Lagoa, Sao Miguel 

This is not much to go on, but for now, it is all I have thus far. 

According to his obit, Manuel F. Perry, Jr. b. abt. 1905 Lagoa, Sao 
Miguel d. 1987 Fairhaven MA.  He married a Virginia Souza in the US. 
His parents are listed as Manuel F. Perry and Mary Rosario Ventura, 
both probably born abt. 1880.  The parents came to the US in 1910 with 
their children Manuel, Joseph and John according to census records. 
Their first child, Charles, was born in US was born in  New Bedford MA 
in Jan. 1912, then 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from here?

[danandmaria]

Jesse, it should be the page number (folha) . 




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From: Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@redshift.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:53:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go from  
   here? 

Jesse, I got that but as you go throught the alphabet the numbers are not 
straight sequential but jump from 100 to 110 and then 114 etc. I thought 
maybe they might be the pages. There are no numbers on the individuala 
baptisms so I can't figure out what they could be other than page numbers!! 
Good luck on trying to figure it out. If you do, let us on the list know. I 
have someone that is searching in Lisbon and it would help to know what the 
numbers mean. 

Thanaks, Rosemarie 

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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors from the mainland - where to go 
from here? 


Thank you for the reply Rosemarie. Unfortunately, I believe the numbers 
must mean something else. I tried this on a few different names, as the 
book's pages ARE numbered, but this doesn't work. I guess it makes sense 
though. The names are semi-alphabetically listed it looks like, and the 
numbers increase with them. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of home , 'digo' confusion, and Help reading

[danandmaria]

Joanne, I think we have exchange info before, but I have your names and 
possibly new info : 



João /d'Oliveira Homem/ pescador from Rosario, married Maria Eugénia /Lodina/ 
from S. Jose, P. Delgada, they have 5 children one of them Jacintha de Jesus 
married to Manuel Luis 

they have 7 children: Jorgina Luis, Manuel, Antonio , Maria dos Anjos etc( have 
BD) 





Maria Tavares Moore 


- Original Message - 
From: Joanne Mercier musicmavene...@gmail.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:16:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of home , 'digo' confusion, and Help  
   reading 

Jesse, 
I have a d'Oliveira Homen ou Carnero in my Lagoa family tree.  My gggrandfather 
is Joao and his son is Jose.  Jose has a sister Jacintha de Jesus (my 
ggrandmother) and their mother is Maria Eugenia.  Joao's father is Antonio Jose 
Homen and his mother is Anna de Jesus Carnero.  That is all the information I 
have on them.  Is any of this similar to what you might have? 

WIth the new Rosario records I'm hoping to break through a brick wall I have on 
my father's mother's side of the family.  Would be nice to find more cousins!   


Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier 
Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Sousa), Lagoa (Luiz) and Rabe de Peixe 
(Martins Gouveia) 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO - up to date list

[danandmaria]

Same here...Maria Tavares Moore 




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From: Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:36:48 PM 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO - up to date list 




Ok, I screwed up.  Thought you wanted all members of this group to sign in.  I 
am not researching Porto Formoso.  Sorry, Sam Koester 





From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva 
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:52 AM 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO - up to date list 



Azores Google Group members researching  PORTO FORMOSO: 



Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 

John Miranda Raposo 

Earl Medeiros 

Gilbert Pacheco Rapoza 

Madeline Rose Fagundes Hill 

Cheri Mello 

Marjorie Howes Perry 

Margie Wicks Frago Brewer 

Mary Ann Santos 

Carleton H. Landers 

Margaret Vicente 

Sam Koester 

Patricia Louise Anselmo Nostrome 

Jacki Gentry 

Helen Salvador 

Stanley Perry Jr. 

Manuel César Furtado 

Kennmeth E. Correa 

Maria Tavares Moore 

Joanne Grota Mercier 

Frances Azevedo Gardner 

Sallie Azevedo Clement 

Howard Keith da Costa Vasconcellos Pimental 

Linda Borges Furtado Norton 

Janice Perry 

Laura O’Connell 

Cheryl … 

Judi Chaves Phillips 

Sherry Soares 





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Portuguese wine

[danandmaria]

It is a dessert liqueur.  Not wine. 



As for Azorean table wines, there is one from Pico called Basalto that is a 
very nice red. Otherwise, seek wines from the mainland (Douro, Alentejo, Dao 
regions). 



Summer is ideal for vinhos verdes. Some are produced rather cheaply and 
over-carbonated (Gatao, Lagosta, and Mateus are in this category). Really nice 
one, not expensive, served very cold is Casal Garcia. Probably the best quality 
vinho verde is Palacio da Brejoeira. You'll pay a little more but it is great 
quality. 



Here in Nashville, it has taken us a while to educate various wine stores to 
get these wines in but they are finally catching on and everyone is happier. 



Maria Moore 




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Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:52:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Portuguese wine 

Linda, 

Maracuja is a dessert wine.  It's made from passion fruit, I believe. 

Cheri 





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

[danandmaria]

Maria Tavares Moore
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

In a message dated 6/26/2010 9:33:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
eliseuman...@sapo.pt writes: 
 Hi Group,
 
   
 
  In order to make contacting and information sharing easier please answer 
 to this mail just with your name. It would be very useful to us to have an 
 organized list. 
 
  
 
  Thank you in advance,
 
   
 
  eliseu
 
 
 
John Miranda Raposo

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

[danandmaria]

Maria do Coracao de Jesus is her first name. 




- Original Message - 
From: Cindy D kcci...@aol.com 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:11:02 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society 

Thanks for the name help infoif Coracao de Jesus is a religious 
term, then it's not her maiden name?  The naming customs have my head 
spinning. 

Cindy D 
Kansas 

On Jun 17, 4:48 pm, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: 
 Cindy;  Just jumping in here because I have a grandmother who also was 
 Coracao de Jesus in her name.  It means heart of Jesus and is a religious 
 term, not really a name. 
 
 Just my two cents, Sam in CA 
 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Cindy D 
 Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:32 AM 
 To: Azores Genealogy 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re:FloresGenealogy and Drinking Society 
 
 I don't understand the naming process as Maria Ursula de Jesus has do 
 Coracao in the middle.  Is that a name or a place?  Also, what does, 
 From the Morros mean?- Hide quoted text - 
 
 - Show quoted text - 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such

[danandmaria]

Feijoada is a stew of beans with beef and pork , which is a typical Portuguese 
dish, also typical in Brazil , Angola and other former Portuguese colonies . In 
Brazil, feijoada is considered the national dish , which was brought to South 
America by the Portuguese, based in ancient Feijoada recipes from the 
Portuguese regions of Beira , Estremadura , and Trás-os-Montes . [ 1 ] 

The name comes from feijão , Portuguese for beans, and is pronounced 
[fejʒuˈadɐ] . 




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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:08:51 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such 


Actually Cindy, fejoada is Afro Brazillian in origin. When the slave masters 
killed pigs, they saved the chops and the pork roasts (all the good cuts) for  
themselves and gave the inards, pigs feet, ears, etc to their slaves.  The 
slaves embelished the stew with black beans, etc. If you go to an up scale 
Brazillian Restaurant, you will find the fejoada further embelished with 
linguica, etc. In some upscale restaurants in Brazil they will even serve pork 
chops on the side, a far cry from what the black slaves originally had. My late 
wife was Brazillian and filled me in on all this history of fejoada. 
John Vasconcelos 

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Cindy D  kcci...@aol.com  wrote: 


I wasn't introduced to cacciola until I was in my 40's.  We packed up 
the kids and made the trek to New Bedford one summer and we got there 
late and tired.  We walked into my mom's house and the aroma of 
something wonderful was wafting around.  Yum!  Now I've never had 
cacciola in my whole midwestern life, yet this seemed oddly familiar. 
Mom said she got it from a deli in New Bedford and we had it on crusty 
portuguese white bread.  So I have wondered ever since if there is 
some memory in my DNA that remembers a cultural dish like that.  My 
kids even liked it.  I can't bake bread worth a hoot so I'm not going 
to try the bread, but the cacciola is well worth the 2 day process.  I 
can't keep my spoon out of the pot!  It smells like perfume to me. 

Another dish my mother made once a year was feijoada (sp).  Mixed 
meats simmered together with linquica, pork, beef, black beans, 
garlic, served over riceanother meal to die for.  Although she 
said it was more Brazilian Portuguese. 

Yum...! 

Cindy D 
Kansas 




On Jun 7, 11:27 am, \E\ Sharp  bellema...@gmail.com  wrote: 
 Made a giant pot of cacciola and had the family in to celebrate!  Very 
 not fair to share with all of us!! 
 
 Which brings up the question, any ideas where/when cacciola came from. 
  Was it first a part of a religious celebration of our ancestors as I 
 know when one goes to festas you usually have this delicious treat. 
 
 And since this perked the genealogist interest in me, I decided to see 
 if any of our ancestors used this as their last name, since they were 
 sometimes so creative with their last names, and I checked it out on 
 Ancestry; believe it or not it is a very much Italian surname! 
 
 E 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization

[danandmaria]

Besides the variations in the spelling, sometimes there are also mistakes. In 
my program (and possibly in yours) there is also known as and there I put the 
variation or mistaken name and the year found as such.  You can also put it in 
the notes for that person. That has helped me with verifying  or confirming 
that someone is who I think they are. 



 Original Message - 
From: Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:04:29 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling  Standardization 

Hi 

I was wondering if there was a general consensus on what to do with 
names with variations/different spellings (this is almost all of them!). 
For example, I have a Helena in my tree and I also have an Elena. I know 
these are technically the same name but the spellings have been 
different. Do these spellings reflect the priest who wrote the records 
or how the people in question actually wanted their name spelled? If it 
is all based on the priest I will start adopting standardized spellings 
for the sake of organization. Just looking for some opinions/information 
on this! Thanks! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: translation - trabalhador/lavrador

[danandmaria]

LAVRADOR is a farmer, a person who plougs, (lavrar).  - that is the defination 
of the wordbut at least in S. Miguel is it used for dairy farmers.  Might 
have resulted from the fact that they used a bull to pull the plow?   The 
beauty of a living language! 




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Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:25:45 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: translation - trabalhador/lavrador 


LAVRADOR is a farmer, a person who plougs, (lavrar). This is the etymology of 
the word 

Inacio 


2010/6/14 Terri  terr...@rogers.com  



My parents were born in Sao Miguel and many of their family members 
were laborers. When i asked them this weekend about what a 'lavrador' 
was...they said it specifically means a person working with cows. 


On Jun 10, 8:48 pm, dwood...@aol.com wrote: 
 I find my great grandfather and other relatives were  trabalhador/lavrador. 
 Could someone translate for me, I do not read or speak Portuguese.   Thanks 
 so much.   
 
 Just want to let you know what a great group this is.  Within 24 hours  of 
 posting my searches I've already had 3-4 replies with so much  information.   
 I am so overwhelmed right now.  This is good!!!  I  would never in a 
 hundred years been able to pull this much information  together. 
 Thanks so much for all your help!!! 
 Donna Dutra Wood 




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site

[danandmaria]

- Original Message - 
From: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com 
To: azores group azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 1:16:30 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site 

Hi Robin, 
  
As I read it and hopefully others will correct any mistakes: 
  
On the 3rd of January, 1861, at 12 at night, in house # 364, died ,Gaspar, 
whose age is uncertain but around 3 1/2months or more. (here it gets a bit 
unclear)..he's an exposto and the next word is either given to the care of 
Anna Custodia Candida,  wife of Jose da Roch de Borba of this freguesia and on 
this day at 3 in the afternoon is buried in the cemetary of this parish.the 
rest is the usual conclusion. 
  
Perhaps this helps and others can clear up the exposto  intrigue part...it 
could be entre quebut that doesn't make sense. 
  
Regards, 
Nancy  
  

From: beso...@succeed.net 
To: Azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site 
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 01:37:37 -0700 


I've found a death document related to my Borba side of the family and am 
wondering if someone can help me translate it?  It's the first document on the 
left hand side of the page at the link below.  It speak of my randparents 
Custodia Candida and Jose da Rocha de Borba. 

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/TAHSBARTO1860-1869/TAHSBARTO1860-1869_item1/P8.html
 



Here's what I have found on the CCA site for their marriage: 

1849 Page 64 St. Bartholomew Indices of Marriage, so it appears they were 
married in 1949 and one dies in 1861?  I do know one of their children was my 
GGGrandfather of the same name, Jose da Rocha de Borba born in 1850, St. 
Bartholomew of which I have a baptism certificate.  

Other than this one child, I don't know of any others. 

Thank you for your help! 

Robin Borba Besotes 

Researching:  Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, 
Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto 
California Towns:  Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres 
Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas 
Azores:  Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB -

[danandmaria]

They are my 17th great grandparents  Maria Moore 




- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2010 8:52:25 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB - 


There are 10 people in The Cabral and Travassos Country Club. 
Iris Cabral Bilodeau - Me 
Nancy Jean Baptiste 
Celeste Perry 
Eileen Leite 
George Pacheco 
Judi Phillips 
Thomas Decosta 
Richard Francis Pimental 
Diana Silva 
Eliseu da Silva 

Please let me know if I left someone out. 
Iris 

--- On Fri, 6/4/10, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: 



From: celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB - 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 6:51 PM 



They are my 18th great-grandparents and my maternal grandmother who descended 
from them was born in Porto Judeu, Terceira. 

Has anyone kept track of all the Cabral/Travassos Country Club members?  I 
wonder if it rivals the Ponta Garca Gang. 
  Celeste, Hayward, CA 

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 

--- On Fri, 6/4/10, rfrancispimen...@comcast.net rfrancispimen...@comcast.net 
wrote: 



From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net rfrancispimen...@comcast.net 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB - 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 5:43 PM 





D. Violante Velho Cabrel married to Goncalves de Travassos is the 16 th 
greatgrandmother of Richard Francis Pimentel . 






Richard Francis Pimentel 


Epping, New Hampshire, USA 

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 



-Original Message- 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva 
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:24 PM 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB - 



Joining the “club”: 
D. Violante Velho Cabral married to Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos, is the 17th 
greatgrandmother of Eliseu Pacheco da Silva. 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname change suggestions???

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Lisa, Who was his bride or who are his parents? 



I have a large file from Lagoa, I can look to see if I have a match  



Maria Moore 





From: brat.l...@hotmail.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname change suggestions??? 
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:16:31 -0500 

Hello all. I hope everyone had a great, lovefilled Easter. 
  
I am requesting some fresh ideas on a possible surname change of one of my 
ancestors. 
  
My ggg grandmother's brother, Manuel da Costa Galante, from Lagoa, N.S. 
immigrated with his new bride to Hawaii in 1884 upon the ALBERGELDIE(think 
thats right). His passport along with information from a book Ms. Shirley has 
stated his whole name as that which is above. 
Now my problem is I have searched all the subsequent census records up to 1910 
in Hawaii, and I can not find any one with that last name, Galante. Does anyone 
have any ideas of an alternative spelling of the last name, or maybe if it 
would be usual for one to drop the last name and just go by da Costa?? 
Any suggestions and / or ideas would be appreciated. 




Lisa L  


  




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Royal lines

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Do u mean violate velho married to joao algarves do olho?
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Royal lines

Thank you John!  I do descend from one of Goncalo Velho sister's, Violante.
Iris

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Royal lines
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 5:58 AM


In a message dated 4/3/2010 9:08:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
alecrimcynt...@yahoo.com writes: 

Do you have a list of the names who are tied to royalty? What about Alecrim?  
There is a road and hotel with the name Alecrim and heard there maybe a 
connection to the royales.

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From: Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral ties to Royalty
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 4:31 PM



  Has anyone found out if the Cabral Surname was tied to Royalty or not?
Iris
  According to many genealogical sources, the Velho Cabrals of the Azores, 
i.e., the descendants of the siblings of the discoverer Gonçalo Velho Cabral 
(who did not have any children) descend through the Cabral line from Afonso III 
and his Moorish concubine, Madragana ben Bekar. There are other sources that 
dispute those claims.

There are other royal Azorean lines, e.g.,:

The descendants of Garcia Rodrigues Camelo and Leonor Soeira, descends from D. 
Afonso III and the Moorish concubine. 

The descendants of Maria Coutinho (d. 1667) and Manuel da Câmara Sá, descend 
from Pedro I and Inês de Castro.

The descendants of D. Jorge Gonçalves Pereira and Guiomar Fernandes da Silva 
descend from D. Fernando I.

There are many other families in the Azores that have royal ancestors. The 
trick is to be able to go back far enough in your research to an ancestor who 
has been thoroughly researched by a reputable genealogist or historian and then 
to have access to that work. Otherwise it will be very slow going with many 
detours into unreliable, oftentimes discredited sources. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname change suggestions???

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If thes are a match,  I have more information and more descendants. 
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:17:05 
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname change suggestions???

*Here is what i have on the Galante Family from Lagoa*
**
*Descendents Manuel Costa Galante*

* *

* *

*First Generation*

* *

  1.* Manuel Costa Galante * was born in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel,
Açores.

Manuel married *Escolastica de Jesus *. Escolastica was born in Rosario,
Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores.



They had the following children:



+  2 F i.*  Maria dos Anjos *.



+  3 Mii.*  Antonio Costa Galante *.



* *

*Second Generation*

* *

  2.* Maria dos Anjos * (Manuel Costa) was born in Rosario, Lagoa, São
Miguel, Açores.

Maria married *Jose Rego Coelho * son of Manuel Rego Coelho and Ricarda
Tomazia de Jesus. Jose was born in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores.



They had the following children:



+  4 Mi.*  Jose Rego Coelho * was born on 14 Aug 1867.



+  5 F ii.*  Maria Margarida *.



  3.* Antonio Costa Galante * (Manuel Costa) was born in Rosario, Lagoa,
São Miguel, Açores.

Antonio married *Carlota de Jesus * daughter of João Jacinto de Medeiros and
Ana Tomazia. Carlota was born in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores.



They had the following children:

   6 F i.*  Maria * was born on 13 Feb 1870 in Rosario,
Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores. She was christened on 20 Feb 1870 in Rosario,
Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores.




On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br wrote:

   There are Galante and Goulart on
 Portuguese surnames

 *Karlushko - Itajai/SC - New York/USA*
 *Pesquisando:*
 *Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, A**çores,
 Espanha*
 *Agueda, Aguiar, Andr**é**, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil,
 Bulc**ão**, Cardoso, Correia, Costa, **Dias,  Dutra,  Faria, Fernandes,
 Ferreira, Figueiro, Gaspar, Gato, *
 *Gomes Gon**ç**alves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, **Lemos, Macedo, Machado,
 Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, 
 **Nogueira,
 Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos,
 Silva, Silveira, Simão, **Sodr**é**, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano,
 Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse,*
 *Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.*


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 De: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com
 Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname change suggestions???
 Para: azores group azores@googlegroups.com
 Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Abril de 2010, 10:21


 Hi Lisa,

   Are you sure it isn't a badly spelled Goularte? Did you search him as de
 Costa?

 Good luck!
 Nancy Jean

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 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname change suggestions???
 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:16:31 -0500

 *Hello all. I hope everyone had a great, lovefilled Easter.*
 **
 *I am requesting some fresh ideas on a possible surname change of one of
 my ancestors.*
 **
 *My ggg grandmother's brother, Manuel da Costa Galante, from Lagoa, N.S.
 immigrated with his new bride to Hawaii in 1884 upon the ALBERGELDIE(think
 thats right). His passport along with information from a book Ms. Shirley
 has stated his whole name as that which is above.*
 *Now my problem is I have searched all the subsequent census records up to
 1910 in Hawaii, and I can not find any one with that last name, Galante.
 Does anyone have any ideas of an alternative spelling of the last name, or
 maybe if it would be usual for one to drop the last name and just go by da
 Costa??*
 *Any suggestions and / or ideas would be appreciated.*



 *Lisa L *






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] death notice

[danandmaria]

George, 



My condolences for the loss of your brother.  



Maria Moore 


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] death notice 

Hi everyone 

Just wanted to let you know that my oldest brother Antonio passed away 
of a heart attack at 1 AM Sunday morning azorean time or 9PM  Satuday 
Eastern time 
Antonio was going to be 70 he is my oldest sybling from both of my 
parents  time--he was a taxi Driver in Furnashad his own cab if you 
ever got a ride in a taxi in the azores fom a man who had a white 
beard like Santa Claus . It was my brother Antonio. 

George Pacheco 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reposo 13Messages in 5 Topics

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Lisa, 



I have a large file of Lagoa families.  



If I understand correctly this is your Great Grandfather Francisco Raposo also 
named as Galante?  He Married Maria do Rosario; 



Can you give a little more details such as his birthdate, did he marry in 
Lagoa? 



Are your Cabral and Botelho also from Lagoa? 



Maria Moore 


Hello, 
From what I can find my rapoza's wife was Mary or Maria Dos Rosario. My great 
grandfather, Francisco Rapoza, has listed on his ssdi as his mother's last 
name as Galante. But I found her passport on the BYU site along with my 
Joao Rapoza as Dos Rosario. They immigrated from Lagoa in 1883 to Hawaii.I am 
truely not sure what her last name was 
Oh wait, maybe this will help. 
My Uncle once told me that Joao was apparently very cruel especially to 
animals, and Maria was raising some horses or involved in horses in Hawaii, and 
Joao was murdered by a fellow farm or ranch hand for beating a horse. sometime 
between 1909 and 1915 In Hawaii. 
Any help you can give would be appreciated.I Could give you the names of my 
Cabrals Botelhos etc if you wish. 
Thank you, 



Lisa L  


  

Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:03:24 -0800 
From: irisca...@yahoo.com 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reposo 13Messages in 5 Topics 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 


Lisa, 
I have Cabral, Botelho, and deCosta in my ancestry from Sao Miguel. 

I looked up Joao Raposa in Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii.  Found 5 Joao 
Raposo's and 5 Joao Rapozo's.  Are you able to give me his wife's name, then I 
can narrow it down. 
Iris 

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From: lisa lema brat.l...@hotmail.com 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reposo 13Messages in 5 Topics 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 10:56 AM 


Hello. 
I am interested in learning more about this line of ancestry, the Raposo. Was 
there a different way that your ancestors spelled that last name? my paternal 
Grandmother's Grandfather was Joao Rapoza, but I found that somewhere along the 
way the spelling has been changed to Raposo, Raposa, Repoza,  Repozo, Reposa. 
I know that my Ggg grandfather, Joao, immigrated to Hawaii from the Azores. 
Any information on the Raposo last name would be appreciated. 
In this particular ancestrial lineage I have the following surnames: 
Arruda, Cabral, Costa, DeCosta,DeLima,Pereira,Botelho,Crua,Andrade,Carvalho,Dos 
Rosario,Mederios, etc. 
  
Any help on researching this line would be much appreciated. 
  
Thank you, 


Lisa L  


  

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My dear friend and possibly cousin (never made the connection), Elizabeth 
McDonald had sent me a couple of years ago her family time line. I'm not sure 
if she is on this group any longer, but she goes back to Jose Raposo m. 
Francisca Ignacia Pereira (daughter of Jose-Jacintho Pereira and Maria Augusta) 
from Maia, Sao Miguel abt. 1847. Two children brought down 17 grandchildren. 
Son, Joao Raposo-Pereira m. Francisca-Julia da Ponte Ramalho and daughter, 
Rosa-Ignacia da Conceicao m. Manoel Raposo- Pereira (kept it in the family). 
Maybe there is a connection coming down to those Raposo's. 

Linda Borges (Furtado) Furtado 

Marcos and John,  


I came across a Thome Rapozo marriage date 11-July-1736.  The record says he 
is a widower of Maria do Nascimento and that he's marrying Victoria de Mello. 


I'm attaching the jpg for you to take a look. 













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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Physical Research In/Around Dartmouth?

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Public transportation is very good in the New Bedford, Dartmouth area.  What 
island is your family from and what parish?
Maria
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Physical Research In/Around Dartmouth?

Hey all,

I'm finally coming up on my student teaching semester and should
graduate this coming Spring. I am currently considering taking the
Intensive Portuguese summer course at UMASS Darthmouth. I figure since
that lasts for 5 weeks or so, I'll probably have some time to go
around and do some physical searching for info. Both sets of my
Portuguese G-Grandparents came in through New Bedford and I believe
one set remained there, and the other moved around a bit into
Dartmouth and possibly Fall River (I'm not sure why that name comes to
mind at the moment.)

The only thing is, I have no idea how I'll get anywhere without a car.
I don't know how cities are situated up there, do they all just kind
of butt up together? I live in a county where we have a lot of
unincorporated areas between the cities (for example the school I'm
teaching in is 34 miles away from my home...but Hillsborough County
(Tampa Bay area) is pretty spread out. I have no idea what to expect
in MA.

Aside from that, what key places should I go to? What kind of info
should I look for? Seeing as I'm in Florida, I've only ever done
online research. Hands on stuff is completely new to me.

And I suppose if it turns out that I can't make it to the summer
program, I'll get around to hiring someone else to do the legwork for
me. I have a quickly aging great aunt who would love to know more
about her history.

Nicole Rodriques

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family

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Do you have a date for your Great Grandmothers birth?  I have copies of the 
birth registration book for that year.  Who was your great grandfather?  was he 
from the Lagoa?  What was his name and date of birth...etc. etc. 



Luisa married and had a child in 1923 in St. Cruz  - Edmundo /da Cost Pereira/ 



Any other info you might have would help,  such as date of birth of sibblings.  
I have many do Rego Vital but need a little more info to see if they are 
connect to your family. 



Maria 


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family 

Okay yes I do know this! Jacinto do Rego Vital and Maria Isabelle 
Cabral had 5 daughters. My great grandmother Alexandria Alice 
Texeira nee Vital (born 1907 died 1989), I remember her sister 
Francelina (born 1904 not sure when she died but some time in the 
1980's?) she came to the bay area with Alexandria and her mother Maria 
Isabelle by way of New York in about 1911, I guess Jacinto was already 
in the bay area because he was a whaler. I know she had three other 
sisters Maria, Sofia and Louisa. Either they were not close to my 
Great Grandmother or they never immigrated I don't know. 

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Okay yes I do know this! Jacinto do Rego Vital and Maria Isabelle 
Cabral had 5 daughters. My great grandmother Alexandria Alice 
Texeira nee Vital (born 1907 died 1989), I remember her sister 
Francelina (born 1904 not sure when she died but some time in the 
1980's?) she came to the bay area with Alexandria and her mother Maria 
Isabelle by way of New York in about 1911, I guess Jacinto was already 
in the bay area because he was a whaler. I know she had three other 
sisters Maria, Sofia and Louisa. Either they were not close to my 
Great Grandmother or they never immigrated I don't know. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family

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Paula, 



What was your great uncle's name? any dates and or more names? 



Maria Moore 




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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family 

Hi... I also have Vital in my family, he's my great uncle.  He married 
Noema Chaves and they had about 7 kids. Any relation?  They are also 
from Sao Miguel, I believe Santa Cruz... 

On Dec 2, 1:01 pm, mom2krisandleigha curbal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hello! I am researching my family geneology. My Grandma AlexandriaVitalwas 
 born in Capelas, Soa Miguel but I found out that most likely 
 theVitalfamily was in the Village called Bretanha in Porta Delgado. 
 Her parents were Jacinto RegoVitaland Maria Isebelle Cabral, her 
 sisters were Mary, Sofia, Lousia and Francelina. Oh and great great 
 Grandparents Manuel  Joaquina Cabral from Soa Miguel too, but the 
 other side is with only the last namesVital Candida? 
 My family immigrated to the Bay Area in California in the early 1900's 
 when my grandmother was about 11. Any help, thanks!! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Vital family

[danandmaria]

Hello evryone, 



Here a little additional info to what Hermano shared: 



Jacinto do Rego Vital (fisherman) born abt 1871 , son of Manuel do Rego Vital 
and Jacinta Candida Talhavento (had 5 sibs )  , married to a Maria Isabel 
Cabral born 3 Apr 1871 in Santa cruz, daughter of Jacintho Cabral de Melo and 
Maria Joaquina de Jesus Correia ( more info on parents), 7 nov 1895 in Santa 
Cruz, Lagoa 



Jacintho and Maria Isabel had at least 4 children: 

Maria born abt dec 20 1895, died 9 Jan 1896 

Sophia born 26 march 1899 

Maria Luisa mariied to Luis /da Cost Pereira/ pedreiro from S. Sebastiao, P. 
Delgada 

Maria (segunda de nome) born 26 Jul 1901 



I have many do Rego Vital from Lagoa in my files.  Will try to help if I can. 



Maria 


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From: Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 9:07:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Vital family 

Hello 
Your ancestors are most likely from Lagoa (Agua de Pau, Rosario, Santa Cruz). 
I know of a Jacinto do Rego Vital (fisherman), son of Manuel do Rego Vital and 
Jacinta Candida Talhavento, married to a Maria Isabel Cabral daughter of 
Jacintho Cabral de Melo and Maria Joaquina de Jesus Correia, 7 nov 1895 in 
Santa Cruz, Lagoa. 
I hope that helps? 
Hermano 

  
 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:01:15 -0800 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Vital family 
 From: curbal...@gmail.com 
 To: azores@googlegroups.com 
 
 Hello! I am researching my family geneology. My Grandma Alexandria 
 Vital was born in Capelas, Soa Miguel but I found out that most likely 
 the Vital family was in the Village called Bretanha in Porta Delgado. 
 Her parents were Jacinto Rego Vital and Maria Isebelle Cabral, her 
 sisters were Mary, Sofia, Lousia and Francelina. Oh and great great 
 Grandparents Manuel  Joaquina Cabral from Soa Miguel too, but the 
 other side is with only the last names Vital  Candida? 
 My family immigrated to the Bay Area in California in the early 1900's 
 when my grandmother was about 11. Any help, thanks!! 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family

[danandmaria]

Paula, 



Could this be your great uncle? 



Noémia /de Medeiros Chaves/ married to Manuel /do Rego Vital/ married 24 Dec 
1949? 



Maria 


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family 


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family 




Paula, 



What was your great uncle's name? any dates and or more names? 



Maria Moore 




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From: Paula the_emi...@shaw.ca 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:12:04 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Vital family 

Hi... I also have Vital in my family, he's my great uncle.  He married 
Noema Chaves and they had about 7 kids. Any relation?  They are also 
from Sao Miguel, I believe Santa Cruz... 

On Dec 2, 1:01 pm, mom2krisandleigha curbal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hello! I am researching my family geneology. My Grandma AlexandriaVitalwas 
 born in Capelas, Soa Miguel but I found out that most likely 
 theVitalfamily was in the Village called Bretanha in Porta Delgado. 
 Her parents were Jacinto RegoVitaland Maria Isebelle Cabral, her 
 sisters were Mary, Sofia, Lousia and Francelina. Oh and great great 
 Grandparents Manuel  Joaquina Cabral from Soa Miguel too, but the 
 other side is with only the last namesVital Candida? 
 My family immigrated to the Bay Area in California in the early 1900's 
 when my grandmother was about 11. Any help, thanks!! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with a word

[danandmaria]

I think the word is : sobredita freguesia - previously mentioned freguesia 



I have seen this many times. 



Maria 




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Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 10:16:29 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with a word 

I'm translating a 1847 marriage record from San Pedro, Vila Franca do 
Campo.  There is one word that really has me stumped.  It appears to 
be Sabridita and occurs before the word frequesia.   I've looked at 
parish lists, and don't see anything like this on San Miguel.   The 
word is capitalized as I've shown.    Does anyone have any ideas what 
this is? 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: number as a surname?

[danandmaria]

Hello George, 



Can you share any other info on the Francisca das Quarenta Horas? 



Thanks, 



Maria Moore 
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From: George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com 
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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 8:38:27 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: number as a surname? 


I have a lady on someone's Genealogy, that her names was Francisca Das 
Quarenta Horas, i asked a priest why would she be named Francisca of 
the forty hours, the expalanation she might have  been born during 
lent an she was named after the 40th hour of Christ's suffering.  Nonw 
of her family takes the name ay at all at least the one daughter that 
i have her descendants and they are from Rosario lagoa i have her 
ancestors l also. 

George 

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Jesse pacheco.jess...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 Hi group. I have an ancestor, Manuel Joaquin Medeiros Quarenta. As far 
 as I know, Quarenta means forty. Are there other surnames that are 
 numbers or is this a special exception? 
 
 If anyone is interested, Manuel was born in 1876 in Atalhada SM and 
 died in 1950 in Fall River. He had twelve or thirteen children and was 
 married to Filomena da Gloria Rego (1877-1946). Just this morning, I 
 looked up his obituary in the diario de noticias and Filomena's 
 surname was listed as Rego Mendonca, so I will have to investigate 
 that. 
 
  
 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another unusual name

[danandmaria]

Maybe Apologia?
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:26:20 
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another unusual name

Hi All, 
 
Here is an unusual name. It looks like Apolimria do Sacramento. Does
that look right?
 
Rick 
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, New Hampshire, USA
Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 
 




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching Agua de Pau for Correia, Pacheco, TAvares,

[danandmaria]

who was Mariano Pacheco's father born in Lagoa? 



Maria Moore 
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:48:24 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching Agua de Pau for Correia, Pacheco, 
TAvares, 




If your Pacheco ancestors are from Agua de Pau, we are more then 
likely related. 

My great grandfather, Mariano Pacheco was born in Ribiera Cha, Lagoa 
(1906?). Ribiera Cha is just down the road from Agua de Pau. I know he 
had 4 brothers but i do not know when they were born and where they 
went. My great grandfather moved to America in the early 1950's to New 
Bedford,Mass. 

In the case of my great grandfathers parents, his father was born in 
Lagoa,Sao Miguel (date uknown) and his mother was born in Rio de 
Janiero, Brasil (date unkown). 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Roots in the Azores - Facebook Group

[danandmaria]

what name did you give the group - they are many other azores  groups
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Place Names #2 New Thread

[danandmaria]

John, 

What are you looking for? By the way, my great grandmother was a Varão from 
Lagoa and I have many in my file. 

Maria Moore 
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Hi Celeste 

I saw your posting and you peeked my curiousity. My ancestors were from Lagoa 
too specificaly Nossa Senhora de Rosario parish. How difficult is it to get 
marriage and birth information. Do you have a contact person that I could write 
to in Sao Miguel to get the information. 

Any help is greatly appreciated 

John Varao 


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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:54 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Place Names #2 New Thread 



Charlelne, 
In the early records, the name of the church was important for me. Some of the 
villages had more than one church. My first visit to the Azores, I asked for 
the oldest church in Lagoa, Sao Miguel. I was told it was Santa (something I 
can't remember right now). I spent the time looking for my husband's ancestor 
in the books for that church. I did not find the ancestor. 
Upon my return to Sao Miguel (I was getting better at asking the questions that 
would give me the answers I needed) I asked how much newer the other church 
was. I was told they were about the same age. When I looked at the books for 
the slightly newer church I found the ancestors. 
From that experience, I have always included the church in my file. I think of 
the church as the location, area, where the person was born and lived. Most of 
the time (nothing is always) a newborn was baptized in the church where the 
parents lived. Rosario in Lagoa, Sao Miguel, was the place I found ancestors 
(the church was Nossa Senhora do Rosario). 
Sorry for the confusion. Celeste, Hayward, CA 

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 

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From: Charlene researchp...@gmail.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Place Names #2 New Thread 
To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com 
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 9:12 PM 

I am starting this over as the other thread was putting answers out of
time sequence so it was difficult to follow. Maybe I did that, don't
know.

Celeste, I do not understand your post. I had meant to say that I was
going to leave the village, just leave off the Church District of the
village as there is not enough room for both. Are you saying that this
can cause problems in trying to match? I do not understand how if one
states the village and the island.

Charlene 



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