Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

[Gustavo MARTINS]

Yes, thank you Fawn, they’re really useful! Thank you again Cheri!! I have 
wrote before, but I think that mail got lost somewhere in the web! lol!



> Em 6 de mar de 2019, à(s) 22:01, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> 
> Bill, thank you for catching my error and for taking the time to look for the 
> correct record.  I think you're right abt the indexer trying to clarify which 
> Joao this was.  They had obviously run into this couple elsewhere in their 
> indexing of this village. 
> 
> Thanks, Cheri for checking out Roccio as a surname.  I had never run into it 
> before either.  Glad I know now what it means!
>  
> Gustavo, I'm glad that Cheri pointed you to the indexes.  They are a 
> wonderful help.  Good luck!
> 
> And Margaret, thank you for your info.  I now have a new word for my personal 
> Portuguese Language collection!  So do we think then maybe that Joao lived 
> near the town square???
> 
> Thank you, everyone.  I really appreciate your time & input.
> 
> Fawn
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> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:41 PM Gustavo Martins  <mailto:martins...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thank you very much Cheri
> 
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
> 
> Le 25 févr. 2019 à 17:35, Margaret Vicente  <mailto:margaretvice...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> 
>> Bill, 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Indeed, thank you so much for catching it was sent to the wrong thread.  
>> Thought the info might help Fawn.  As an fyi the “Rocio/rossio’ explanation 
>> was taken from the book of Padre Antonio Correia, Historia Insulana das 
>> ilhas de Portugal. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: bsei2...@gmail.com <mailto:bsei2...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: February 25, 2019 2:58 PM
>> To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Margaret.  I've pasted your response here where I am sure you 
>> intended to post it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From Margaret:
>> 
>> Hello, one and all.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname.  It is 
>> indicating a place.  i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s 
>> saying.  A Rossio is the town square.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>> 
>> Gustavo,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb. 
>> We try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs:
>> 
>> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ <http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/>
>>  
>> 
>> Bookmark or save that site.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact the 
>> webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com <http://mac.com/>
>>  
>> 
>> If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy the 
>> URL and send it to Kathy as well.
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, Fawn!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from 
>> that Island.
>> 
>> Would you send me the file, if possible?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Gustavo Martins
>> 
>> Santa Catarina - Brasil
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com <>> escreveu:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I appreciate 
>> all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes 
>> and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

[Fawn Silva]

Bill, thank you for catching my error and for taking the time to look for
the correct record.  I think you're right abt the indexer trying to clarify
which Joao this was.  They had obviously run into this couple elsewhere in
their indexing of this village.

Thanks, Cheri for checking out Roccio as a surname.  I had never run into
it before either.  Glad I know now what it means!

Gustavo, I'm glad that Cheri pointed you to the indexes.  They are a
wonderful help.  Good luck!

And Margaret, thank you for your info.  I now have a new word for my
personal Portuguese Language collection!  So do we think then maybe that
Joao lived near the town square???

Thank you, everyone.  I really appreciate your time & input.

Fawn
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:41 PM Gustavo Martins 
wrote:

> Thank you very much Cheri
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>
> Le 25 févr. 2019 à 17:35, Margaret Vicente  a
> écrit :
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Indeed, thank you so much for catching it was sent to the wrong thread.
> Thought the info might help Fawn.  As an fyi the “Rocio/rossio’ explanation
> was taken from the book of Padre Antonio Correia, Historia Insulana das
> ilhas de Portugal.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Thanks again,
>
>
>
> *From: *bsei2...@gmail.com
> *Sent: *February 25, 2019 2:58 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque
>
>
>
> Thank you Margaret.  I've pasted your response here where I am sure you
> intended to post it.
>
>
>
> From Margaret:
>
> Hello, one and all.
>
>
>
> For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname.  It is
> indicating a place.  i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s
> saying.  A Rossio is the town square.
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Gustavo,
>
>
>
> Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb.
> We try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs:
>
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/
>
>
>
> Bookmark or save that site.
>
>
>
> Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island.
>
>
>
> If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact
> the webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com
>
>
>
> If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy
> the URL and send it to Kathy as well.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS 
> wrote:
>
> Hello, Fawn!
>
>
>
> Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from
> that Island.
>
> Would you send me the file, if possible?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Gustavo Martins
>
> Santa Catarina - Brasil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>
>
> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I appreciate
> all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes
> and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others.  Thank
> you so much to all who have done this.
>
>
>
> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism
> record.  The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao
> Vieira Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify,
> there is no mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
>
>
>
> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from
> Joao's marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra
> who is married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during
> this same time period.
>
>
>
> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you
> for any thoughts on this.
>
>
>
> Fawn Silva
>
> St. Louis, MO
>
>
>
> Third baptism down on left side
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html
>
>
>
> [image:
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/JjzEPM_1UQiAcgcIii9zH3wa

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

[Gustavo Martins]

Thank you very much Cheri

Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 25 févr. 2019 à 17:35, Margaret Vicente  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Bill,
>  
> Indeed, thank you so much for catching it was sent to the wrong thread.  
> Thought the info might help Fawn.  As an fyi the “Rocio/rossio’ explanation 
> was taken from the book of Padre Antonio Correia, Historia Insulana das ilhas 
> de Portugal.
>  
>  
> 
>  
> Thanks again,
>  
> From: bsei2...@gmail.com
> Sent: February 25, 2019 2:58 PM
> To: Azores Genealogy
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque
>  
> Thank you Margaret.  I've pasted your response here where I am sure you 
> intended to post it.
>  
> From Margaret:
> Hello, one and all.
>  
> 
> For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname.  It is 
> indicating a place.  i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s 
> saying.  A Rossio is the town square.
> 
>  
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Gustavo,
>  
> Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb. We 
> try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs:
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/
>  
> Bookmark or save that site.
>  
> Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island.
>  
> If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact the 
> webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com
>  
> If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy the 
> URL and send it to Kathy as well.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>  
>  
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS  wrote:
> Hello, Fawn!
>  
> Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from 
> that Island.
> Would you send me the file, if possible?
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Gustavo Martins
> Santa Catarina - Brasil
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>  
> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I appreciate 
> all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes 
> and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others.  Thank you 
> so much to all who have done this.
>  
> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism record.  
> The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao Vieira 
> Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, there is no 
> mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
>  
> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from Joao's 
> marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra who is 
> married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during this same 
> time period. 
>  
> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you for 
> any thoughts on this.
>  
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
>  
> Third baptism down on left side
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html
>  
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

[Margaret Vicente]

Bill, 

Indeed, thank you so much for catching it was sent to the wrong thread.  
Thought the info might help Fawn.  As an fyi the “Rocio/rossio’ explanation was 
taken from the book of Padre Antonio Correia, Historia Insulana das ilhas de 
Portugal. 




Thanks again,

From: bsei2...@gmail.com
Sent: February 25, 2019 2:58 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

Thank you Margaret.  I've pasted your response here where I am sure you 
intended to post it.

>From Margaret:
Hello, one and all.
 
For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname.  It is indicating 
a place.  i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s saying.  A 
Rossio is the town square.
 
Margaret


On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
Gustavo,

Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb. We 
try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs:
http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/

Bookmark or save that site.

Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island.

If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact the 
webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com

If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy the 
URL and send it to Kathy as well.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS  wrote:
Hello, Fawn!

Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from that 
Island.
Would you send me the file, if possible?
Thanks in advance.

Gustavo Martins
Santa Catarina - Brasil






Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com> escreveu:

I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I appreciate all 
the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes and how 
much time and effort they have saved me & so many others.  Thank you so much to 
all who have done this.

My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism record.  The 
Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao Vieira Bezerra) 
for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, there is no mention of 
the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.

I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from Joao's 
marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra who is 
married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during this same 
time period. 

Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you for 
any thoughts on this.

Fawn Silva
St. Louis, MO

Third baptism down on left side
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

[bsei2816]

Thank you Margaret.  I've pasted your response here where I am sure you 
intended to post it.


>From Margaret:

Hello, one and all.

 

For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname.  It is 
indicating a place.  i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s 
saying.  A Rossio is the town square.

 

Margaret


On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Gustavo,
>
> Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb. 
> We try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs:
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/
>
> Bookmark or save that site.
>
> Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island.
>
> If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact 
> the webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com
>
> If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy 
> the URL and send it to Kathy as well.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS  > wrote:
>
>> Hello, Fawn!
>>
>> Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from 
>> that Island.
>> Would you send me the file, if possible?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Gustavo Martins
>> Santa Catarina - Brasil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com 
>> > escreveu:
>>
>> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I 
>> appreciate all the work that has been done in putting together these 
>> wonderful indexes and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many 
>> others.  Thank you so much to all who have done this.
>>
>> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism 
>> record.  The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao 
>> Vieira Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, 
>> there is no mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
>>
>> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from 
>> Joao's marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra 
>> who is married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during 
>> this same time period. 
>>
>> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you 
>> for any thoughts on this.
>>
>> Fawn Silva
>> St. Louis, MO
>>
>> Third baptism down on left side
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

[Cheri Mello]

Gustavo,

Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb.
We try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs:
http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/

Bookmark or save that site.

Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island.

If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact the
webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com

If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy
the URL and send it to Kathy as well.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS 
wrote:

> Hello, Fawn!
>
> Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from
> that Island.
> Would you send me the file, if possible?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Gustavo Martins
> Santa Catarina - Brasil
>
>
>
>
>
> Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I appreciate
> all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes
> and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others.  Thank
> you so much to all who have done this.
>
> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism
> record.  The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao
> Vieira Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify,
> there is no mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
>
> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from
> Joao's marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra
> who is married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during
> this same time period.
>
> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you
> for any thoughts on this.
>
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
>
> Third baptism down on left side
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

[Gustavo MARTINS]

Hello, Fawn!

Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from that 
Island.
Would you send me the file, if possible?
Thanks in advance.

Gustavo Martins
Santa Catarina - Brasil





> Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> 
> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index.  I appreciate 
> all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes 
> and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others.  Thank you 
> so much to all who have done this.
> 
> My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism record.  
> The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao Vieira 
> Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, there is no 
> mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document.
> 
> I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from Joao's 
> marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra who is 
> married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during this same 
> time period. 
> 
> Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index.  Thank you for 
> any thoughts on this.
> 
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> Third baptism down on left side
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Joseph Mendonca]

That's a good idea. Thanks.

Joseph Mendonca

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 10:05 Cheri Mello  wrote:

> You might want to send him a screen shot and circle the dates.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:36 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
>> Update:
>>
>> I received the following reply from the CCA.  However, the issue still
>> exists and I suspect that he is referring to the server being down over the
>> weekend.  I will contact them again:
>> 1 of 188
>>
>>
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>> RE: Sao Roque do Pico- marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from are
>> missing.
>> Inbox
>> x
>> Rui VF. Marques 
>> 6:37 AM (1 hour ago)
>> to me, Filomena, Ana, António
>> Portuguese
>> English
>>
>> Translate message
>> Turn off for: Portuguese
>>
>> Ex.mo Senhor
>>
>>
>>
>> O erro no acesso ao registo que pretende consultar, deveu-se a uma falha
>> momentânea no servidor onde está alojado o Portal Cultura Açores.
>>
>>
>>
>> O problema está corrigido e o conteúdo está a funcionar dentro da
>> normalidade.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cordiais saudações
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rui Marques
>>
>> *Técnico Superior*
>>
>>
>>
>> *SECRETARIA REGIONAL DA EDUCAÇÃO E CULTURA*
>>
>>
>> *DIREÇÃO REGIONAL DA CULTURA**Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores*
>>
>> *Palacete Silveira e Paulo - Rua da Conceição*
>>
>> *9700-054 Angra do Heroísmo - Terceira - Açores*
>>
>> *(** +**351 295 403000 /* *7** +**351 295 403001*
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Assinatura correio eletrónico]
>> 
>>
>> *http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> *De:* Joseph Mendonca 
>> *Enviada:* sexta-feira, 15 de junho de 2018 23:19
>> *Para:* drac@azores.gov.pt
>> *Assunto:* Sao Roque do Pico- marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from
>> are missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> The marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque do Pico are missing
>> or the links to them are missing?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> They should be available as noted in the following for the year 1897:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Joseph Mendonca
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Joseph Mendonca > > wrote:
>>
>>> I've sent them an email so we'll see if anything happens.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm not seeing what Margaret is seeing either. I'm on Windows 7, Chrome
 and am only getting about half of Sao Roque marriages. The ones that say
 CCA to the right are opening but the ones that say BPARJJG get nothing.


 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I went out to Tombo.pt and navigated into Sao Roque do Pico and the
> marriages are labeled 1877-1899, but cut off at 1889. I tried both my
> computer and cell and I don't see what Margaret is seeing. Maybe she can
> send the marriage link containing the 1890s.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>> I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's
>> nothing in the left column past 1889.
>>
>> Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente" <
>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd email them and ask.
>>> drac@azores.gov.pt
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from
 Sao Roque do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html

 By all indications they should be available as noted in the
 following for the year 1897:

 http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Cheri Mello]

You might want to send him a screen shot and circle the dates.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:36 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> Update:
>
> I received the following reply from the CCA.  However, the issue still
> exists and I suspect that he is referring to the server being down over the
> weekend.  I will contact them again:
> 1 of 188
>
>
>
> [image: Print all]
> [image: In new window]
> RE: Sao Roque do Pico- marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from are missing.
> Inbox
> x
> Rui VF. Marques 
> 6:37 AM (1 hour ago)
> to me, Filomena, Ana, António
> Portuguese
> English
>
> Translate message
> Turn off for: Portuguese
>
> Ex.mo Senhor
>
>
>
> O erro no acesso ao registo que pretende consultar, deveu-se a uma falha
> momentânea no servidor onde está alojado o Portal Cultura Açores.
>
>
>
> O problema está corrigido e o conteúdo está a funcionar dentro da
> normalidade.
>
>
>
> Cordiais saudações
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rui Marques
>
> *Técnico Superior*
>
>
>
> *SECRETARIA REGIONAL DA EDUCAÇÃO E CULTURA*
>
>
> *DIREÇÃO REGIONAL DA CULTURA**Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores*
>
> *Palacete Silveira e Paulo - Rua da Conceição*
>
> *9700-054 Angra do Heroísmo - Terceira - Açores*
>
> *(** +**351 295 403000 /* *7** +**351 295 403001*
>
>
>
> [image: Assinatura correio eletrónico]
> 
>
> *http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/
> *
>
>
>
> *De:* Joseph Mendonca 
> *Enviada:* sexta-feira, 15 de junho de 2018 23:19
> *Para:* drac@azores.gov.pt
> *Assunto:* Sao Roque do Pico- marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from are
> missing.
>
>
>
> The marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque do Pico are missing
> or the links to them are missing?
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-
> SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>
>
>
> They should be available as noted in the following for the year 1897:
>
>
>
> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joseph Mendonca
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
>> I've sent them an email so we'll see if anything happens.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not seeing what Margaret is seeing either. I'm on Windows 7, Chrome
>>> and am only getting about half of Sao Roque marriages. The ones that say
>>> CCA to the right are opening but the ones that say BPARJJG get nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Joe,

 I went out to Tombo.pt and navigated into Sao Roque do Pico and the
 marriages are labeled 1877-1899, but cut off at 1889. I tried both my
 computer and cell and I don't see what Margaret is seeing. Maybe she can
 send the marriage link containing the 1890s.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's
> nothing in the left column past 1889.
>
> Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente" 
> wrote:
>
> It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>> I'd email them and ask.
>> drac@azores.gov.pt
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao
>>> Roque do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-
>>> SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>>>
>>> By all indications they should be available as noted in the
>>> following for the year 1897:
>>>
>>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Joseph Mendonca]

Update:

I received the following reply from the CCA.  However, the issue still
exists and I suspect that he is referring to the server being down over the
weekend.  I will contact them again:
1 of 188



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RE: Sao Roque do Pico- marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from are missing.
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Portuguese
English

Translate message
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Ex.mo Senhor



O erro no acesso ao registo que pretende consultar, deveu-se a uma falha
momentânea no servidor onde está alojado o Portal Cultura Açores.



O problema está corrigido e o conteúdo está a funcionar dentro da
normalidade.



Cordiais saudações







Rui Marques

*Técnico Superior*



*SECRETARIA REGIONAL DA EDUCAÇÃO E CULTURA*


*DIREÇÃO REGIONAL DA CULTURA**Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores*

*Palacete Silveira e Paulo - Rua da Conceição*

*9700-054 Angra do Heroísmo - Terceira - Açores*

*(** +**351 295 403000 /* *7** +**351 295 403001*



[image: Assinatura correio eletrónico]


*http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/
*



*De:* Joseph Mendonca 
*Enviada:* sexta-feira, 15 de junho de 2018 23:19
*Para:* drac@azores.gov.pt
*Assunto:* Sao Roque do Pico- marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from are
missing.



The marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque do Pico are missing
or the links to them are missing?



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-
SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html



They should be available as noted in the following for the year 1897:



http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225



Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.



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On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> I've sent them an email so we'll see if anything happens.
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not seeing what Margaret is seeing either. I'm on Windows 7, Chrome
>> and am only getting about half of Sao Roque marriages. The ones that say
>> CCA to the right are opening but the ones that say BPARJJG get nothing.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> I went out to Tombo.pt and navigated into Sao Roque do Pico and the
>>> marriages are labeled 1877-1899, but cut off at 1889. I tried both my
>>> computer and cell and I don't see what Margaret is seeing. Maybe she can
>>> send the marriage link containing the 1890s.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's nothing
 in the left column past 1889.

 Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?


 On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente" 
 wrote:

 It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
 wrote:

 Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.

 On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> I'd email them and ask.
> drac@azores.gov.pt
>
> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao
>> Roque do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-
>> SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>>
>> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following
>> for the year 1897:
>>
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I'm not seeing what Margaret is seeing either. I'm on Windows 7, Chrome and
am only getting about half of Sao Roque marriages. The ones that say CCA to
the right are opening but the ones that say BPARJJG get nothing.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I went out to Tombo.pt and navigated into Sao Roque do Pico and the
> marriages are labeled 1877-1899, but cut off at 1889. I tried both my
> computer and cell and I don't see what Margaret is seeing. Maybe she can
> send the marriage link containing the 1890s.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's nothing
>> in the left column past 1889.
>>
>> Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd email them and ask.
>>> drac@azores.gov.pt
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao
 Roque do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-
 SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html

 By all indications they should be available as noted in the following
 for the year 1897:

 http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Margaret Vicente]

Sorry shouldn’t have used the cell.  Yes ends in 1889

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is what I am seeing. But when you click on the Ver to look at them it 
> only goes to 1889. I am using Windows with Microsoft Edge so it is not just 
> Foxfire. Does anyone remember looking at them on microfilm?
>  
> Rick
>  
> 
>  
> Rick
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> Epping, NH
>  
>  
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cheri Mello
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 8:06 PM
> To: Azores Genealogy
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage 
> records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)
>  
> I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's nothing in 
> the left column past 1889. 
>  
> Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?
>  
>  
> On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente"  wrote:
> It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.
>  
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> I'd email them and ask. 
> drac@azores.gov.pt
>  
> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca"  wrote:
> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque do 
> Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>  
> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following for the 
> year 1897:
>  
> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Margaret Vicente]

Used my cell

Obra 
Registos Paroquiais
Ficha Bibliográfica
Cópia em JPEG
São Roque, Casamentos 1877-1899
1877
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009 00100011 0012
1878
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009 00100011
1879
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009 00100011 0012 0013 0014
1880
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006
1881
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006
1882
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009
1883
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009 0010
1884
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008
1885
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009 0010
1886
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009
1887
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007
1888
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008
1889
0001 0002 0003 0004 00050006 0007 0008 0009 00100011 0012 0013 0014 00150016 
0017

Ficha Bibliográfica
Contribuidor: Região Autónoma Açores, Presidência Governo, Direcção Regional 
Cultura
Título:  Registos Paroquiais
Assunto: Genealogia
Descrição: Casamentos
Identificador: PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899
Fonte: BPARJJG - HORTA
Data: 1877
Cobertura temporal: 1877-1899
Cobertura temporal: Pico / São Roque / São Roque

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> On Jun 15, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is what I am seeing. But when you click on the Ver to look at them it 
> only goes to 1889. I am using Windows with Microsoft Edge so it is not just 
> Foxfire. Does anyone remember looking at them on microfilm?
>  
> Rick
>  
> 
>  
> Rick
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> Epping, NH
>  
>  
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cheri Mello
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 8:06 PM
> To: Azores Genealogy
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage 
> records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)
>  
> I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's nothing in 
> the left column past 1889. 
>  
> Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?
>  
>  
> On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente"  wrote:
> It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.
>  
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> I'd email them and ask. 
> drac@azores.gov.pt
>  
> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca"  wrote:
> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque do 
> Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>  
> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following for the 
> year 1897:
>  
> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Cheri Mello]

Joe,

I went out to Tombo.pt and navigated into Sao Roque do Pico and the
marriages are labeled 1877-1899, but cut off at 1889. I tried both my
computer and cell and I don't see what Margaret is seeing. Maybe she can
send the marriage link containing the 1890s.

Cheri Mello
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's nothing in
> the left column past 1889.
>
> Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente" 
> wrote:
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> It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
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> Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I'd email them and ask.
>> drac@azores.gov.pt
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao
>>> Roque do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-
>>> SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>>>
>>> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following
>>> for the year 1897:
>>>
>>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Cheri Mello]

I only see up to 1889. I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox. There's nothing in
the left column past 1889.

Margaret, what are you using to see the 1890s?


On Jun 15, 2018 4:29 PM, "Margaret Vicente" 
wrote:

It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I'd email them and ask.
> drac@azores.gov.pt
>
> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao
>> Roque do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-
>> SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>>
>> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following for
>> the year 1897:
>>
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Margaret Vicente]

It opens for me.  It’s all there, nothing wrong.

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> On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Mendonca  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> I'd email them and ask. 
>> drac@azores.gov.pt
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca"  wrote:
>>> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque 
>>> do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>>> 
>>> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following for 
>>> the year 1897:
>>> 
>>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

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Thanks Cheri.  I'll do that.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I'd email them and ask.
> drac@azores.gov.pt
>
> On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao
>> Roque do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-
>> SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>>
>> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following for
>> the year 1897:
>>
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

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I'd email them and ask.
drac@azores.gov.pt

On Jun 15, 2018 2:09 PM, "Joseph Mendonca"  wrote:

> Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque
> do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-
> SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html
>
> By all indications they should be available as noted in the following for
> the year 1897:
>
> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico-Sao Roque do Pico marriage records-1877-1899 (1890-1899 missing)

[Joseph Mendonca]

Does anyone know why the marriage records from 1890 to 1899 from Sao Roque
do Pico are missing or the links to them are missing?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1877-1899_item1/index.html

By all indications they should be available as noted in the following for
the year 1897:

http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1235225

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Great!! 

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> On Mar 29, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Gordon soares  wrote:
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> Yep... the links work. Thanks Susan!!
> Gordon
> 
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>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 12:02 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gordon,
>> 
>> Do these links work?
>> 
>> These are the submitted stories that he compiled
>> 
>> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Stories_of_California_Azorean_Immigrants.pdf#page4
>> 
>> Here is his work on Azoreans to California
>> 
>> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
>> 
>> I just searched on my iPhone and was able to access them I wonder what 
>> is wrong as Cheri said maybe try different browsers?
>> 
>> Wish I knew more about these technicalities!!
>> 
>> Susan 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Susan
>>> I have tried to read those stories that Santos wrote but can’t access them 
>>> through his college. I have sent him an email asking for access or copy but 
>>> haven’t heard from him
>>> 
>>> Gordon
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 28, 2018, at 4:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 It’s wonderful that you want to honor the strong spirit of your great 
 great grandfather by writing his story! I’ve written little stories and 
 one bigger one about my ancestors in the hope that they will not be 
 forgotten and that further generations can come to know them through what 
 I have written. 
 
 I’m not sure if the link I shared would help you as I have not read it 
 recently but thought I remembered that it talked about why so many of our 
 people left the islands.
 
 The link that Cheri shared is not the same one that I shared but is a good 
 one! 
 
 Maybe if you google Bob Santos and Azores you can find some of he wrote. 
 Besides the link I shared he also compiled some family stories that he 
 collected from writers some of my little stories are in that book.
 
 I’m excited for your project! He sounds like he had an amazing life. I 
 would say that resilience is a common characteristic of many of our 
 ancestors!
 
 Susan Vargas Murphy 
 
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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Michael Emmett  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Susan, but like Roberto I cannot open the link. I live in 
> Australia and if Roberto lives other than the USA, perhaps it is 
> available only to residents of the United States. I have a friend in 
> Japan who is often denied access to some Australia sites. 
> 
> You have all been so generous in this matter and I should explain why I 
> am so interested. I am hoping to write an authentic, though partly 
> fictionalised, account of my great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto, 
> born 1825 on Pico, Azores. That is why I want as much historical back 
> ground of the era, along with social mores etc. as I can absorb. I was 
> raised a Catholic, and think I understand how that impacts on a life, 
> though my knowledge is more from my Irish ancestry than that of any 
> Portuguese influence. Manuel had just turned eleven when he was charged 
> in Trinidad and transported by the British to Tasmania Australia (he was 
> held on a Thames Hulk for two years first). It was a brutal system 
> designed to break the spirit and force compliance. 
> 
> Manuel virtually grew up in this system, but there is evidence, from his 
> conduct sheet (still available in Australia's government archives) that 
> he remained defiant. He eventually ( after fifteen years, two seven year 
> stints and one additional year for absconding) gained his freedom by 
> servitude, to become a valuable and courageous member of Australia's ship 
> pilot service. He was involved in several daring ship rescues, in raging 
> storms, which was part of the job.
> 
> Through necessity, much of his story will be from my imaginings, but I 
> want it to have a very solid base. I cannot thank you all enough for your 
> incredible generosity with your time and knowledge. 
> 
> Warm regards
> Mike Emmett
> P.S. Having never written anything other than a University essay or short 
> story I fear it will be beyond my capacity anyway, but I feel his is a 
> story which must be told.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2018, at 3:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>> 
>> Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
>> Gordon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Gordon soares]

Yep... the links work. Thanks Susan!!
Gordon

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2018, at 12:02 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> Do these links work?
> 
> These are the submitted stories that he compiled
> 
> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Stories_of_California_Azorean_Immigrants.pdf#page4
> 
> Here is his work on Azoreans to California
> 
> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
> 
> I just searched on my iPhone and was able to access them I wonder what is 
> wrong as Cheri said maybe try different browsers?
> 
> Wish I knew more about these technicalities!!
> 
> Susan 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>> 
>> Susan
>> I have tried to read those stories that Santos wrote but can’t access them 
>> through his college. I have sent him an email asking for access or copy but 
>> haven’t heard from him
>> 
>> Gordon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 4:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> It’s wonderful that you want to honor the strong spirit of your great great 
>>> grandfather by writing his story! I’ve written little stories and one 
>>> bigger one about my ancestors in the hope that they will not be forgotten 
>>> and that further generations can come to know them through what I have 
>>> written. 
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure if the link I shared would help you as I have not read it 
>>> recently but thought I remembered that it talked about why so many of our 
>>> people left the islands.
>>> 
>>> The link that Cheri shared is not the same one that I shared but is a good 
>>> one! 
>>> 
>>> Maybe if you google Bob Santos and Azores you can find some of he wrote. 
>>> Besides the link I shared he also compiled some family stories that he 
>>> collected from writers some of my little stories are in that book.
>>> 
>>> I’m excited for your project! He sounds like he had an amazing life. I 
>>> would say that resilience is a common characteristic of many of our 
>>> ancestors!
>>> 
>>> Susan Vargas Murphy 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Michael Emmett  
 wrote:
 
 Thank you Susan, but like Roberto I cannot open the link. I live in 
 Australia and if Roberto lives other than the USA, perhaps it is available 
 only to residents of the United States. I have a friend in Japan who is 
 often denied access to some Australia sites. 
 
 You have all been so generous in this matter and I should explain why I am 
 so interested. I am hoping to write an authentic, though partly 
 fictionalised, account of my great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto, born 
 1825 on Pico, Azores. That is why I want as much historical back ground of 
 the era, along with social mores etc. as I can absorb. I was raised a 
 Catholic, and think I understand how that impacts on a life, though my 
 knowledge is more from my Irish ancestry than that of any Portuguese 
 influence. Manuel had just turned eleven when he was charged in Trinidad 
 and transported by the British to Tasmania Australia (he was held on a 
 Thames Hulk for two years first). It was a brutal system designed to break 
 the spirit and force compliance. 
 
 Manuel virtually grew up in this system, but there is evidence, from his 
 conduct sheet (still available in Australia's government archives) that he 
 remained defiant. He eventually ( after fifteen years, two seven year 
 stints and one additional year for absconding) gained his freedom by 
 servitude, to become a valuable and courageous member of Australia's ship 
 pilot service. He was involved in several daring ship rescues, in raging 
 storms, which was part of the job.
 
 Through necessity, much of his story will be from my imaginings, but I 
 want it to have a very solid base. I cannot thank you all enough for your 
 incredible generosity with your time and knowledge. 
 
 Warm regards
 Mike Emmett
 P.S. Having never written anything other than a University essay or short 
 story I fear it will be beyond my capacity anyway, but I feel his is a 
 story which must be told.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On 28 Mar 2018, at 3:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
> 
> Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
> Gordon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the 
>> browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version). 
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Gordon,

Do these links work?

These are the submitted stories that he compiled

http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Stories_of_California_Azorean_Immigrants.pdf#page4

Here is his work on Azoreans to California

http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf

I just searched on my iPhone and was able to access them I wonder what is 
wrong as Cheri said maybe try different browsers?

Wish I knew more about these technicalities!!

Susan 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
> 
> Susan
> I have tried to read those stories that Santos wrote but can’t access them 
> through his college. I have sent him an email asking for access or copy but 
> haven’t heard from him
> 
> Gordon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 4:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> It’s wonderful that you want to honor the strong spirit of your great great 
>> grandfather by writing his story! I’ve written little stories and one bigger 
>> one about my ancestors in the hope that they will not be forgotten and that 
>> further generations can come to know them through what I have written. 
>> 
>> I’m not sure if the link I shared would help you as I have not read it 
>> recently but thought I remembered that it talked about why so many of our 
>> people left the islands.
>> 
>> The link that Cheri shared is not the same one that I shared but is a good 
>> one! 
>> 
>> Maybe if you google Bob Santos and Azores you can find some of he wrote. 
>> Besides the link I shared he also compiled some family stories that he 
>> collected from writers some of my little stories are in that book.
>> 
>> I’m excited for your project! He sounds like he had an amazing life. I would 
>> say that resilience is a common characteristic of many of our ancestors!
>> 
>> Susan Vargas Murphy 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Michael Emmett  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Susan, but like Roberto I cannot open the link. I live in 
>>> Australia and if Roberto lives other than the USA, perhaps it is available 
>>> only to residents of the United States. I have a friend in Japan who is 
>>> often denied access to some Australia sites. 
>>> 
>>> You have all been so generous in this matter and I should explain why I am 
>>> so interested. I am hoping to write an authentic, though partly 
>>> fictionalised, account of my great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto, born 
>>> 1825 on Pico, Azores. That is why I want as much historical back ground of 
>>> the era, along with social mores etc. as I can absorb. I was raised a 
>>> Catholic, and think I understand how that impacts on a life, though my 
>>> knowledge is more from my Irish ancestry than that of any Portuguese 
>>> influence. Manuel had just turned eleven when he was charged in Trinidad 
>>> and transported by the British to Tasmania Australia (he was held on a 
>>> Thames Hulk for two years first). It was a brutal system designed to break 
>>> the spirit and force compliance. 
>>> 
>>> Manuel virtually grew up in this system, but there is evidence, from his 
>>> conduct sheet (still available in Australia's government archives) that he 
>>> remained defiant. He eventually ( after fifteen years, two seven year 
>>> stints and one additional year for absconding) gained his freedom by 
>>> servitude, to become a valuable and courageous member of Australia's ship 
>>> pilot service. He was involved in several daring ship rescues, in raging 
>>> storms, which was part of the job.
>>> 
>>> Through necessity, much of his story will be from my imaginings, but I want 
>>> it to have a very solid base. I cannot thank you all enough for your 
>>> incredible generosity with your time and knowledge. 
>>> 
>>> Warm regards
>>> Mike Emmett
>>> P.S. Having never written anything other than a University essay or short 
>>> story I fear it will be beyond my capacity anyway, but I feel his is a 
>>> story which must be told.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 28 Mar 2018, at 3:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
 
 Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
 Gordon
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the 
> browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version). 
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho 
>>  wrote:
>> The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Roberto Machado Velho.
>> 
>>> On 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Gordon soares]

Susan
I have tried to read those stories that Santos wrote but can’t access them 
through his college. I have sent him an email asking for access or copy but 
haven’t heard from him

Gordon

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 4:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> It’s wonderful that you want to honor the strong spirit of your great great 
> grandfather by writing his story! I’ve written little stories and one bigger 
> one about my ancestors in the hope that they will not be forgotten and that 
> further generations can come to know them through what I have written. 
> 
> I’m not sure if the link I shared would help you as I have not read it 
> recently but thought I remembered that it talked about why so many of our 
> people left the islands.
> 
> The link that Cheri shared is not the same one that I shared but is a good 
> one! 
> 
> Maybe if you google Bob Santos and Azores you can find some of he wrote. 
> Besides the link I shared he also compiled some family stories that he 
> collected from writers some of my little stories are in that book.
> 
> I’m excited for your project! He sounds like he had an amazing life. I would 
> say that resilience is a common characteristic of many of our ancestors!
> 
> Susan Vargas Murphy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Michael Emmett  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Susan, but like Roberto I cannot open the link. I live in 
>> Australia and if Roberto lives other than the USA, perhaps it is available 
>> only to residents of the United States. I have a friend in Japan who is 
>> often denied access to some Australia sites. 
>> 
>> You have all been so generous in this matter and I should explain why I am 
>> so interested. I am hoping to write an authentic, though partly 
>> fictionalised, account of my great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto, born 
>> 1825 on Pico, Azores. That is why I want as much historical back ground of 
>> the era, along with social mores etc. as I can absorb. I was raised a 
>> Catholic, and think I understand how that impacts on a life, though my 
>> knowledge is more from my Irish ancestry than that of any Portuguese 
>> influence. Manuel had just turned eleven when he was charged in Trinidad and 
>> transported by the British to Tasmania Australia (he was held on a Thames 
>> Hulk for two years first). It was a brutal system designed to break the 
>> spirit and force compliance. 
>> 
>> Manuel virtually grew up in this system, but there is evidence, from his 
>> conduct sheet (still available in Australia's government archives) that he 
>> remained defiant. He eventually ( after fifteen years, two seven year stints 
>> and one additional year for absconding) gained his freedom by servitude, to 
>> become a valuable and courageous member of Australia's ship pilot service. 
>> He was involved in several daring ship rescues, in raging storms, which was 
>> part of the job.
>> 
>> Through necessity, much of his story will be from my imaginings, but I want 
>> it to have a very solid base. I cannot thank you all enough for your 
>> incredible generosity with your time and knowledge. 
>> 
>> Warm regards
>> Mike Emmett
>> P.S. Having never written anything other than a University essay or short 
>> story I fear it will be beyond my capacity anyway, but I feel his is a story 
>> which must be told.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2018, at 3:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
>>> Gordon
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
 
 I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the 
 browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version). 
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
 Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho  
> wrote:
> The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Roberto Machado Velho.
> 
>> On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were 
>> in California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this 
>> information 
>> 
>> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
>> 
>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right 
>>> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm 
>>> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Michael,

It’s wonderful that you want to honor the strong spirit of your great great 
grandfather by writing his story! I’ve written little stories and one bigger 
one about my ancestors in the hope that they will not be forgotten and that 
further generations can come to know them through what I have written. 

I’m not sure if the link I shared would help you as I have not read it recently 
but thought I remembered that it talked about why so many of our people left 
the islands.

The link that Cheri shared is not the same one that I shared but is a good one! 

Maybe if you google Bob Santos and Azores you can find some of he wrote. 
Besides the link I shared he also compiled some family stories that he 
collected from writers some of my little stories are in that book.

I’m excited for your project! He sounds like he had an amazing life. I would 
say that resilience is a common characteristic of many of our ancestors!

Susan Vargas Murphy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Michael Emmett  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Susan, but like Roberto I cannot open the link. I live in Australia 
> and if Roberto lives other than the USA, perhaps it is available only to 
> residents of the United States. I have a friend in Japan who is often denied 
> access to some Australia sites. 
> 
> You have all been so generous in this matter and I should explain why I am so 
> interested. I am hoping to write an authentic, though partly fictionalised, 
> account of my great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto, born 1825 on Pico, 
> Azores. That is why I want as much historical back ground of the era, along 
> with social mores etc. as I can absorb. I was raised a Catholic, and think I 
> understand how that impacts on a life, though my knowledge is more from my 
> Irish ancestry than that of any Portuguese influence. Manuel had just turned 
> eleven when he was charged in Trinidad and transported by the British to 
> Tasmania Australia (he was held on a Thames Hulk for two years first). It was 
> a brutal system designed to break the spirit and force compliance. 
> 
> Manuel virtually grew up in this system, but there is evidence, from his 
> conduct sheet (still available in Australia's government archives) that he 
> remained defiant. He eventually ( after fifteen years, two seven year stints 
> and one additional year for absconding) gained his freedom by servitude, to 
> become a valuable and courageous member of Australia's ship pilot service. He 
> was involved in several daring ship rescues, in raging storms, which was part 
> of the job.
> 
> Through necessity, much of his story will be from my imaginings, but I want 
> it to have a very solid base. I cannot thank you all enough for your 
> incredible generosity with your time and knowledge. 
> 
> Warm regards
> Mike Emmett
> P.S. Having never written anything other than a University essay or short 
> story I fear it will be beyond my capacity anyway, but I feel his is a story 
> which must be told.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2018, at 3:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>> 
>> Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
>> Gordon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the 
>>> browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version). 
>>> 
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho  
 wrote:
 The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Roberto Machado Velho.
 
> On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were 
> in California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this 
> information 
> 
> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
> 
> Susan Vargas Murphy
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
>> 
>> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right 
>> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm 
>> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it 
>> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the 
>> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal 
>> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working 
>> people. 
>> 
>> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off 
>> yet. 
>> 
>> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might 
>> know or 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Cheri Mello]

Try it with a Google Shortener: https://goo.gl/UgRbr2

Try it as a video excerpt: https://goo.gl/YDfDrv

Or clear your cache, try Firefox, Safari, Chrome. Or maybe a public library
will allow you through. It's a book, so maybe you can get it on
inter-library loan. Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Michael Emmett 
wrote:

> Thank you Susan, but like Roberto I cannot open the link. I live in
> Australia and if Roberto lives other than the USA, perhaps it is available
> only to residents of the United States. I have a friend in Japan who is
> often denied access to some Australia sites.
>
> You have all been so generous in this matter and I should explain why I am
> so interested. I am hoping to write an authentic, though partly
> fictionalised, account of my great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto, born
> 1825 on Pico, Azores. That is why I want as much historical back ground of
> the era, along with social mores etc. as I can absorb. I was raised a
> Catholic, and think I understand how that impacts on a life, though my
> knowledge is more from my Irish ancestry than that of any Portuguese
> influence. Manuel had just turned eleven when he was charged in Trinidad
> and transported by the British to Tasmania Australia (he was held on a
> Thames Hulk for two years first). It was a brutal system designed to break
> the spirit and force compliance.
>
> Manuel virtually grew up in this system, but there is evidence, from his
> conduct sheet (still available in Australia's government archives) that he
> remained defiant. He eventually ( after fifteen years, two seven year
> stints and one additional year for absconding) gained his freedom by
> servitude, to become a valuable and courageous member of Australia's ship
> pilot service. He was involved in several daring ship rescues, in raging
> storms, which was part of the job.
>
> Through necessity, much of his story will be from my imaginings, but I
> want it to have a very solid base. I cannot thank you all enough for your
> incredible generosity with your time and knowledge.
>
> Warm regards
> Mike Emmett
> P.S. Having never written anything other than a University essay or short
> story I fear it will be beyond my capacity anyway, but I feel his is a
> story which must be told.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 28 Mar 2018, at 3:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>
> Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
> Gordon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the
> browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version).
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho 
> wrote:
>
>> The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Roberto Machado Velho.
>>
>> On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were
>>> in California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this
>>> information
>>>
>>> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Az
>>> oreans_to_California.pdf
>>>
>>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right
>>> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm
>>> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it
>>> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the
>>> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal
>>> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people.
>>>
>>> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might
>>> know or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in
>>> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone
>>> know?
>>>
>>> Thank again.
>>>
>>> Warm regards
>>> Mike
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Michael Emmett]

Thank you Susan, but like Roberto I cannot open the link. I live in Australia 
and if Roberto lives other than the USA, perhaps it is available only to 
residents of the United States. I have a friend in Japan who is often denied 
access to some Australia sites. 

You have all been so generous in this matter and I should explain why I am so 
interested. I am hoping to write an authentic, though partly fictionalised, 
account of my great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto, born 1825 on Pico, 
Azores. That is why I want as much historical back ground of the era, along 
with social mores etc. as I can absorb. I was raised a Catholic, and think I 
understand how that impacts on a life, though my knowledge is more from my 
Irish ancestry than that of any Portuguese influence. Manuel had just turned 
eleven when he was charged in Trinidad and transported by the British to 
Tasmania Australia (he was held on a Thames Hulk for two years first). It was a 
brutal system designed to break the spirit and force compliance. 

Manuel virtually grew up in this system, but there is evidence, from his 
conduct sheet (still available in Australia's government archives) that he 
remained defiant. He eventually ( after fifteen years, two seven year stints 
and one additional year for absconding) gained his freedom by servitude, to 
become a valuable and courageous member of Australia's ship pilot service. He 
was involved in several daring ship rescues, in raging storms, which was part 
of the job.

Through necessity, much of his story will be from my imaginings, but I want it 
to have a very solid base. I cannot thank you all enough for your incredible 
generosity with your time and knowledge. 

Warm regards
Mike Emmett
P.S. Having never written anything other than a University essay or short story 
I fear it will be beyond my capacity anyway, but I feel his is a story which 
must be told.

Sent from my iPad

> On 28 Mar 2018, at 3:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
> 
> Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
> Gordon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the 
>> browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version). 
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho  
>>> wrote:
>>> The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Roberto Machado Velho.
>>> 
 On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
 Hi Mike,
 I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were 
 in California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this 
 information 
 
 http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
 
 Susan Vargas Murphy
 
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
> 
> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right 
> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm 
> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it 
> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the 
> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal 
> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people. 
> 
> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off 
> yet. 
> 
> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know 
> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in 
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> know? 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Yes that’s what works for me Gordon.

Susan (who posted it) 

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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
> 
> Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
> Gordon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the 
>> browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version). 
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho  
>>> wrote:
>>> The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Roberto Machado Velho.
>>> 
 On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
 Hi Mike,
 I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were 
 in California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this 
 information 
 
 http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
 
 Susan Vargas Murphy
 
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
> 
> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right 
> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm 
> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it 
> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the 
> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal 
> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people. 
> 
> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off 
> yet. 
> 
> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know 
> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in 
> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone 
> know? 
> 
> Thank again.
> 
> Warm regards
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Gordon soares]

Works for me on Apple IMac with Safari & Chrome
Gordon

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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the browser. 
> I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version). 
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho  
>> wrote:
>> The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Roberto Machado Velho.
>> 
>>> On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were in 
>>> California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this 
>>> information 
>>> 
>>> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
>>> 
>>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>>> 
 On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
 
 Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right 
 answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm 
 trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it 
 seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the 
 world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal 
 education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people. 
 
 I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off 
 yet. 
 
 If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know 
 or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in 
 studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone 
 know? 
 
 Thank again.
 
 Warm regards
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Cheri Mello]

I just clicked on it. It works. I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox is the
browser. I also have Acrobat Reader DC (latest version).

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Roberto Machado Velho 
wrote:

> The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roberto Machado Velho.
>
> On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>> I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were
>> in California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this
>> information
>>
>> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-
>> Azoreans_to_California.pdf
>>
>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
>>
>> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right
>> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm
>> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it
>> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the
>> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal
>> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people.
>>
>> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off
>> yet.
>>
>> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know
>> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in
>> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone
>> know?
>>
>> Thank again.
>>
>> Warm regards
>> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Roberto Machado Velho]

The link is not working. Could you post somewhere else?

Thanks,

Roberto Machado Velho.

On Monday, 26 March 2018 19:11:19 UTC-3, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were 
> in California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this 
> information 
>
>
> http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  > wrote:
>
> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right 
> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm 
> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it 
> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the 
> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal 
> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people. 
>
> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off 
> yet. 
>
> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know 
> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in 
> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone 
> know? 
>
> Thank again.
>
> Warm regards
> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Mike,
I’m late to this conversation…and don’t even know if your ancestors were in 
California….but even if they were not, you might like reading this information 

http://library.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/Bob_Santos-Azoreans_to_California.pdf
 


Susan Vargas Murphy

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue  wrote:
> 
> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right answer 
> or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm trying to get 
> from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it seems any big 
> social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the world was possibly 
> getting new social mores and of course, universal education was changing 
> lives and opening new horizons for working people. 
> 
> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off yet. 
> 
> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know or 
> where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in studies of 
> Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know? 
> 
> Thank again.
> 
> Warm regards
> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Margaret Vicente]

Michael and Gordon,

You are  both welcome!

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> On Mar 24, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Michael Emmett  wrote:
> 
> Margaret, cannot thank you enough for your kind consideration in this matter. 
> I am humbled by the generosity of the entire community. The wealth of 
> knowledge and insight shared by contributors restores faith in humanity.
>  When I asked about Universities possibly involved in studies of history of 
> the Azores, I envisaged only those with Portuguese affiliations and 
> connections. I have had the honour to visit York University, only for an 
> hour, in 2012. 
>  
> Since my original request I have managed to get three reference books on the 
> subject.
>  
> Warm regards and many thanks
> Mike 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2018, at 2:06 AM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>> 
>> Margaret 
>> Thanks so much for that reference from York University. Fascinating and 
>> quite interesting. 
>> Gordon Soares 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Margaret Vicente  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike, 
>>> 
>>> Although this may not address your question, York University, and the 
>>> University of Toronto have conducted a studies on the islands you may find 
>>> some answers here, have a look. 
>>> 
>>> http://www.yorku.ca/ccars/files/history/AzoresNineislandsOneHistory.pdf
>>> 
>>> Here's a small portion about the island of Pico:
>>> 
>>> " The highest percentage ofJewish'lgenes is found in the Central group 
>>> ofislands. The settlement of Pico may explain this, for the presence of 
>>> Jews in the ilha montanha [mountain island] goes back to 1503.39 This 
>>> presence reflects the fact that, in ~496, King Manuel I of Portugal 
>>> expelled all Jewish families who had not conVerted to Catholicism. At this 
>>> time, the Azores would have been an attractive de~tin1!tion for three 
>>> reasons: the archipelago was distant from the mainland; royal authority was 
>>> virtually nonexistent, which meant that Jewish exiles could'fuaintain their 
>>> religion; and the islands offered the possibility of developing commercial, 
>>> fmancial and industrial activities. Such activities did in fact happen, not 
>>> so much on Pico, but on Sao Miguel and Terceira."
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Margaret
>>> 
 On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Mickey Blue  
 wrote:
 Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right 
 answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm 
 trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it 
 seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the 
 world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal 
 education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people.
 
 I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off 
 yet.
 
 If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know 
 or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in 
 studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone 
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 Thank again.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Michael Emmett]

Margaret, cannot thank you enough for your kind consideration in this matter. I 
am humbled by the generosity of the entire community. The wealth of knowledge 
and insight shared by contributors restores faith in humanity.
 When I asked about Universities possibly involved in studies of history of the 
Azores, I envisaged only those with Portuguese affiliations and connections. I 
have had the honour to visit York University, only for an hour, in 2012. 
 
Since my original request I have managed to get three reference books on the 
subject.
 
Warm regards and many thanks
Mike 

Sent from my iPad

> On 24 Mar 2018, at 2:06 AM, Gordon soares  wrote:
> 
> Margaret 
> Thanks so much for that reference from York University. Fascinating and quite 
> interesting. 
> Gordon Soares 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Margaret Vicente  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike, 
>> 
>> Although this may not address your question, York University, and the 
>> University of Toronto have conducted a studies on the islands you may find 
>> some answers here, have a look. 
>> 
>> http://www.yorku.ca/ccars/files/history/AzoresNineislandsOneHistory.pdf
>> 
>> Here's a small portion about the island of Pico:
>> 
>> " The highest percentage ofJewish'lgenes is found in the Central group 
>> ofislands. The settlement of Pico may explain this, for the presence of Jews 
>> in the ilha montanha [mountain island] goes back to 1503.39 This presence 
>> reflects the fact that, in ~496, King Manuel I of Portugal expelled all 
>> Jewish families who had not conVerted to Catholicism. At this time, the 
>> Azores would have been an attractive de~tin1!tion for three reasons: the 
>> archipelago was distant from the mainland; royal authority was virtually 
>> nonexistent, which meant that Jewish exiles could'fuaintain their religion; 
>> and the islands offered the possibility of developing commercial, fmancial 
>> and industrial activities. Such activities did in fact happen, not so much 
>> on Pico, but on Sao Miguel and Terceira."
>> 
>> Best,
>> Margaret
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Mickey Blue  
>>> wrote:
>>> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right answer 
>>> or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm trying to 
>>> get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it seems any big 
>>> social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the world was 
>>> possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal education was 
>>> changing lives and opening new horizons for working people.
>>> 
>>> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off 
>>> yet.
>>> 
>>> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know 
>>> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in 
>>> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know?
>>> 
>>> Thank again.
>>> 
>>> Warm regards
>>> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Gordon soares]

Margaret 
Thanks so much for that reference from York University. Fascinating and quite 
interesting. 
Gordon Soares 

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Mike, 
> 
> Although this may not address your question, York University, and the 
> University of Toronto have conducted a studies on the islands you may find 
> some answers here, have a look. 
> 
> http://www.yorku.ca/ccars/files/history/AzoresNineislandsOneHistory.pdf
> 
> Here's a small portion about the island of Pico:
> 
> " The highest percentage ofJewish'lgenes is found in the Central group 
> ofislands. The settlement of Pico may explain this, for the presence of Jews 
> in the ilha montanha [mountain island] goes back to 1503.39 This presence 
> reflects the fact that, in ~496, King Manuel I of Portugal expelled all 
> Jewish families who had not conVerted to Catholicism. At this time, the 
> Azores would have been an attractive de~tin1!tion for three reasons: the 
> archipelago was distant from the mainland; royal authority was virtually 
> nonexistent, which meant that Jewish exiles could'fuaintain their religion; 
> and the islands offered the possibility of developing commercial, fmancial 
> and industrial activities. Such activities did in fact happen, not so much on 
> Pico, but on Sao Miguel and Terceira."
> 
> Best,
> Margaret
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Mickey Blue  
>> wrote:
>> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right answer 
>> or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm trying to get 
>> from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it seems any big 
>> social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the world was possibly 
>> getting new social mores and of course, universal education was changing 
>> lives and opening new horizons for working people.
>> 
>> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off yet.
>> 
>> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know or 
>> where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in studies 
>> of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know?
>> 
>> Thank again.
>> 
>> Warm regards
>> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Margaret Vicente]

Found another study that it also makes reference to the island of Pico.

http://www.ub.edu/tig/GWBNet/MinhoPapers/Paulo%20Matos%20English.pdf


Margaret




On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Although this may not address your question, York University, and the
> University of Toronto have conducted a studies on the islands you may find
> some answers here, have a look.
>
> http://www.yorku.ca/ccars/files/history/AzoresNineislandsOneHistory.pdf
>
> Here's a small portion about the island of Pico:
>
> " The highest percentage ofJewish'lgenes is found in the Central group
> ofislands. The settlement of Pico may explain this, for the presence of
> Jews in the ilha montanha [mountain island] goes back to 1503.39 This
> presence reflects the fact that, in ~496, King Manuel I of Portugal
> expelled all Jewish families who had not conVerted to Catholicism. At this
> time, the Azores would have been an attractive de~tin1!tion for three
> reasons: the archipelago was distant from the mainland; royal authority was
> virtually nonexistent, which meant that Jewish exiles could'fuaintain their
> religion; and the islands offered the possibility of developing commercial,
> fmancial and industrial activities. Such activities did in fact happen, not
> so much on Pico, but on Sao Miguel and Terceira."
>
> Best,
> Margaret
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Mickey Blue 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right
>> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm
>> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it
>> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the
>> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal
>> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people.
>>
>> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off
>> yet.
>>
>> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know
>> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in
>> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know?
>>
>> Thank again.
>>
>> Warm regards
>> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Margaret Vicente]

Mike,

Although this may not address your question, York University, and the
University of Toronto have conducted a studies on the islands you may find
some answers here, have a look.

http://www.yorku.ca/ccars/files/history/AzoresNineislandsOneHistory.pdf

Here's a small portion about the island of Pico:

" The highest percentage ofJewish'lgenes is found in the Central group
ofislands. The settlement of Pico may explain this, for the presence of
Jews in the ilha montanha [mountain island] goes back to 1503.39 This
presence reflects the fact that, in ~496, King Manuel I of Portugal
expelled all Jewish families who had not conVerted to Catholicism. At this
time, the Azores would have been an attractive de~tin1!tion for three
reasons: the archipelago was distant from the mainland; royal authority was
virtually nonexistent, which meant that Jewish exiles could'fuaintain their
religion; and the islands offered the possibility of developing commercial,
fmancial and industrial activities. Such activities did in fact happen, not
so much on Pico, but on Sao Miguel and Terceira."

Best,
Margaret

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Mickey Blue 
wrote:

> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right
> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm
> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it
> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the
> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal
> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people.
>
> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off
> yet.
>
> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know
> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in
> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know?
>
> Thank again.
>
> Warm regards
> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Cheri Mello]

Mike,

I don't know of any universities in America that specialize in certain time
periods in certain countries. Universities are centers of education (at
least in North America and Europe). They have different departments
(humanities, social sciences, biological sciences, technology, etc). Each
department has courses and universities can decide where to put history.
Maybe some might put it under humanities and maybe others wouldn't. Then
they would have courses offered. I don't know how you guys do it in
Australia. Maybe you have universities that specialize in each subject.

In the United States, we have the 2nd Industrial Revolution or the
Technological Revolution from about the 1870s through World War I. That,
coupled with crop failures and other things in the Azores, contributed
towards mass migration to America. I've read enough of the passaportes that
say they are coming to America "to make a fortune" or "a better life." They
are escaping poverty. I have no idea what was going on in Australia around
the late 1800s through WWI that would attract immigrants there. Or if it
was a period of mass migration to Australia. Maybe there's a university
there in Australia that specializes in late 1800s through WWI history.
Maybe knowing what was going on in Australia at the time might explain why
people chose to go there.  Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Mickey Blue 
wrote:

> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right
> answer or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm
> trying to get from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it
> seems any big social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the
> world was possibly getting new social mores and of course, universal
> education was changing lives and opening new horizons for working people.
>
> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off
> yet.
>
> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know
> or where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in
> studies of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know?
>
> Thank again.
>
> Warm regards
> Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Mickey Blue]

Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right answer or 
where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm trying to get from 
Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it seems any big social 
changes happened after or around 1900. I think the world was possibly getting 
new social mores and of course, universal education was changing lives and 
opening new horizons for working people. 

I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off yet. 

If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know or 
where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in studies of 
Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know? 

Thank again.

Warm regards
Mike

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Mary Bordi]

Mike--

I would recommend a visit to the Azores if at all possible. There are some
good museums and even modern day artisan workshops that are preserving
handicrafts of long ago. Knowing some of the language might help. There are
probably many studies written in Portuguese.

Have you looked around this website:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/default.aspx (Same site where online
archives are located.)

They might have online info from the museums. I wanted to reply before I
forgot so I didn't look for anything specific.

Mary


On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:23 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Pico is not going to be different than any other of the Azores islands.
>
> Illiteracy was high for both children and adults. I want to say this did
> not change until the 1900s. Children did tasks for their age and size. Some
> milked cows. Some pulled weeds. Others may have churned butter.
>
> A child would be sent away most likely for a better opportunity or a
> better life.
>
> Most of Pico would have emigrated from the port of Horta. Those records
> start in 1836: https://tombo.pt/en/d/acores
>
> You might want to see if your local public library has a copy of "Atlantic
> Islanders of the Azores and Madeiras" by Francis M. Rogers. Part I is "The
> Lives of Azoreans and Madeirans" and Part II is "Their Values." It's
> written from a American perspective though. I read it 20 years ago so I
> can't tell you specifically what it was about. Maybe I should reread it.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Mickey Blue 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All, can anyone direct me to book(s) or information, hopefully
>> translated into English, which describe social customs and life in general
>> on Pico in 1825/35 when my Great grandfather Manuel Jacinto was born and
>> left Pico? Were children of that era literate? Was school available to all?
>> What work was expected of children under 10 years of age? Why would a ten
>> year old leave home? Are there shipping records to Trinidad or Madeira (he
>> possibly went to Madeira first).
>>
>> These are all things I would dearly like to know. I am hoping to write an
>> historically accurate fiction based on what I know about this remarkable
>> man. I know his parents lived and died on Pico. Though he was the oldest
>> child he was charged with stealing a Frenchman's watch in Trinidad in
>> December 1836, he had just turned 11. I am guessing he was there because
>> slavery was abolished and in 1834 the plantation owners on Trinidad
>> (probably mostly French) were looking for cheap labour to replace their
>> slaves.  The British had taken possession of Trinidad by then and Manuel
>> was tried and sentenced under British law. He spent the next two years on a
>> prison Hulk on the Thames in London before being "Transported" to Van
>> Diemen's Land, now Tasmania Australia, to finish his seven years sentence
>> (sentences were generally, hanging, 7 years or life transportation at that
>> time).
>>
>> If anyone has connections with Trinidad I would be interested if any
>> court records from that era survived and how to access them (I have written
>> to officials in Trinidad but have not received a reply).
>>
>> I would be happy to have any information that would help me understand
>> life at that time. Thank you in anticipation.
>>
>> Mike Emmett
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Mike,

Pico is not going to be different than any other of the Azores islands.

Illiteracy was high for both children and adults. I want to say this did
not change until the 1900s. Children did tasks for their age and size. Some
milked cows. Some pulled weeds. Others may have churned butter.

A child would be sent away most likely for a better opportunity or a better
life.

Most of Pico would have emigrated from the port of Horta. Those records
start in 1836: https://tombo.pt/en/d/acores

You might want to see if your local public library has a copy of "Atlantic
Islanders of the Azores and Madeiras" by Francis M. Rogers. Part I is "The
Lives of Azoreans and Madeirans" and Part II is "Their Values." It's
written from a American perspective though. I read it 20 years ago so I
can't tell you specifically what it was about. Maybe I should reread it.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Mickey Blue 
wrote:

> Hi All, can anyone direct me to book(s) or information, hopefully
> translated into English, which describe social customs and life in general
> on Pico in 1825/35 when my Great grandfather Manuel Jacinto was born and
> left Pico? Were children of that era literate? Was school available to all?
> What work was expected of children under 10 years of age? Why would a ten
> year old leave home? Are there shipping records to Trinidad or Madeira (he
> possibly went to Madeira first).
>
> These are all things I would dearly like to know. I am hoping to write an
> historically accurate fiction based on what I know about this remarkable
> man. I know his parents lived and died on Pico. Though he was the oldest
> child he was charged with stealing a Frenchman's watch in Trinidad in
> December 1836, he had just turned 11. I am guessing he was there because
> slavery was abolished and in 1834 the plantation owners on Trinidad
> (probably mostly French) were looking for cheap labour to replace their
> slaves.  The British had taken possession of Trinidad by then and Manuel
> was tried and sentenced under British law. He spent the next two years on a
> prison Hulk on the Thames in London before being "Transported" to Van
> Diemen's Land, now Tasmania Australia, to finish his seven years sentence
> (sentences were generally, hanging, 7 years or life transportation at that
> time).
>
> If anyone has connections with Trinidad I would be interested if any court
> records from that era survived and how to access them (I have written to
> officials in Trinidad but have not received a reply).
>
> I would be happy to have any information that would help me understand
> life at that time. Thank you in anticipation.
>
> Mike Emmett
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825

[Mickey Blue]

Hi All, can anyone direct me to book(s) or information, hopefully 
translated into English, which describe social customs and life in general 
on Pico in 1825/35 when my Great grandfather Manuel Jacinto was born and 
left Pico? Were children of that era literate? Was school available to all? 
What work was expected of children under 10 years of age? Why would a ten 
year old leave home? Are there shipping records to Trinidad or Madeira (he 
possibly went to Madeira first).

These are all things I would dearly like to know. I am hoping to write an 
historically accurate fiction based on what I know about this remarkable 
man. I know his parents lived and died on Pico. Though he was the oldest 
child he was charged with stealing a Frenchman's watch in Trinidad in 
December 1836, he had just turned 11. I am guessing he was there because 
slavery was abolished and in 1834 the plantation owners on Trinidad 
(probably mostly French) were looking for cheap labour to replace their 
slaves.  The British had taken possession of Trinidad by then and Manuel 
was tried and sentenced under British law. He spent the next two years on a 
prison Hulk on the Thames in London before being "Transported" to Van 
Diemen's Land, now Tasmania Australia, to finish his seven years sentence 
(sentences were generally, hanging, 7 years or life transportation at that 
time). 

If anyone has connections with Trinidad I would be interested if any court 
records from that era survived and how to access them (I have written to 
officials in Trinidad but have not received a reply).

I would be happy to have any information that would help me understand life 
at that time. Thank you in anticipation.

Mike Emmett 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] PICO - old map; churches; inhabitants 155 years ago

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Visit this url and scroll down to view the information. You may enlarge the
images!

 

http://www.caisdopico.pt/2017/12/como-era-o-pico-ha-155-anos.html?utm_source
=dlvr.it
 _medium=facebook

 

Muito Obrigado,

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] PICO baptism - help with names

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Thank you VERY MUCH guys!!!

 

De: 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Enviada: sábado, 12 de novembro de 2016 20:45
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PICO baptism - help with names

 

CITCEM says: Jose Silveira Brum. Also, his wife is shown as Maria Josefa Jesus. 

 

Ana Josefa's birthday as 26 Feb 1819 in Calheta de Nesquim. 

 

More info for you to verify. 

 

Gayle




On Nov 12, 2016, at 1:12 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com <mailto:jmro...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:

I will add:

 

Materna, Joze Silveira de Brum (or possibly Brito, but not likely) e sua mer. - 
not stated.

 

JR

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 2:52:49 PM UTC-5, good...@aol.com 
<http://aol.com>  wrote:

Eliseu,

 

>From the record I saw:Manuel Inacio and Ana Josefa as parents. Grandparents as 
>Manuel Pereira Areia and Maria Inacia. Then checking against CITCEM, the 
>father's name was shown as Manuel Inacio Oliveira Areia. 

 

Maria married Jose Francisco Freitas Vieira Fontes. Does this jive with your 
records ?

 

Gayle




On Nov 12, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <eliseu...@gmail.com 
 > wrote:

Hi!

Need help with the reading of this record up right: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856_item1/P112.html

“Maria filha de Manuel? …?  e sua mulher Ana Josefa…”

It says her grandfather baptized her at home. His name is Manuel? Pereira …? E 
de sua mulher Maria …?”

Thank in advance :)

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

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Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(  <http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel> http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PICO baptism - help with names

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CITCEM says: Jose Silveira Brum. Also, his wife is shown as Maria Josefa Jesus. 

Ana Josefa's birthday as 26 Feb 1819 in Calheta de Nesquim. 

More info for you to verify. 

Gayle



> On Nov 12, 2016, at 1:12 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> I will add:
> 
> Materna, Joze Silveira de Brum (or possibly Brito, but not likely) e sua mer. 
> - not stated.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 2:52:49 PM UTC-5, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> Eliseu,
>> 
>> From the record I saw:Manuel Inacio and Ana Josefa as parents. Grandparents 
>> as Manuel Pereira Areia and Maria Inacia. Then checking against CITCEM, the 
>> father's name was shown as Manuel Inacio Oliveira Areia. 
>> 
>> Maria married Jose Francisco Freitas Vieira Fontes. Does this jive with your 
>> records ?
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> Need help with the reading of this record up right: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856_item1/P112.html
>>> 
>>> “Maria filha de Manuel? …?  e sua mulher Ana Josefa…”
>>> 
>>> It says her grandfather baptized her at home. His name is Manuel? Pereira 
>>> …? E de sua mulher Maria …?”
>>> 
>>> Thank in advance J
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
>>> 
>>> “Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources”
>>> 
>>> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>>> 
>>> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PICO baptism - help with names

[JR]

I will add:

Materna, Joze Silveira de Brum (or possibly Brito, but not likely) e sua 
mer. - not stated.

JR

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 2:52:49 PM UTC-5, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Eliseu,
>
> From the record I saw:Manuel Inacio and Ana Josefa as parents. 
> Grandparents as Manuel Pereira Areia and Maria Inacia. Then checking 
> against CITCEM, the father's name was shown as Manuel Inacio Oliveira 
> Areia. 
>
> Maria married Jose Francisco Freitas Vieira Fontes. Does this jive with 
> your records ?
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva  > wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Need help with the reading of this record up right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856_item1/P112.html
>
> “Maria filha de Manuel? …?  e sua mulher Ana Josefa…”
>
> It says her grandfather baptized her at home. His name is Manuel? Pereira 
> …? E de sua mulher Maria …?”
>
> Thank in advance J
>
>  
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *“Sharing is one of the most profitable human resources” *
>
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>
>  
>
>  
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PICO baptism - help with names

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Eliseu,

>From the record I saw:Manuel Inacio and Ana Josefa as parents. Grandparents as 
>Manuel Pereira Areia and Maria Inacia. Then checking against CITCEM, the 
>father's name was shown as Manuel Inacio Oliveira Areia. 

Maria married Jose Francisco Freitas Vieira Fontes. Does this jive with your 
records ?

Gayle



> On Nov 12, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Need help with the reading of this record up right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856_item1/P112.html
> “Maria filha de Manuel? …?  e sua mulher Ana Josefa…”
> It says her grandfather baptized her at home. His name is Manuel? Pereira …? 
> E de sua mulher Maria …?”
> Thank in advance J
>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] PICO baptism - help with names

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi!

Need help with the reading of this record up right:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1
856/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1844-1856_item1/P112.html

“Maria filha de Manuel? …?  e sua mulher Ana Josefa…”

It says her grandfather baptized her at home. His name is Manuel? Pereira …?
E de sua mulher Maria …?”

Thank in advance :)

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean and Margaret,

Caetano Silveira was the husband of Mateus' daughter Maria Francisca according 
to my records. Good call Margaret. 

Gayle



> On May 18, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> The record does not name his wife, however, if you look at the bottom, t 
> references his sons to whom he left his inheritance with the executor of the 
> will being his son in law Caetano Silveira.
> 
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Sean Andrade  
>> wrote:
>> I did find the obit for his wife which is on the top right for Caterina: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P111.html
>> 
>> She died a couple of years after him and NEPS said this would be his obit 
>> which I listed in my other post. I was hoping his wife would be in the obit 
>> so I coould confirm it was the correct one.
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:40:37 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> It says he was a native of Lages and a resident of Sao Mateus. 
>>> 
>>> Try looking up his wife's death record. It may list him which would make 
>>> the connection between them. It was probably just an oversight on the part 
>>> of the priest to forget to list his wife.
>>> 
>>> Gayle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 18, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
 
 I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having 
 trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like 
 it lists his parish but not his wife.
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
> Thanks!
> 
>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> Sean,
>> 
>> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
>> 
>> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She 
>> married Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 
>> and died 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
>> 
>> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias 
>> both of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 
>> 5 Jan 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina 
>> (died 10 Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and 
>> Apolonia Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia 
>> died 1 Feb 1718 also in Sao Mateus. 
>> 
>> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gayle,
>>> 
>>> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
>>> 
>>> Any info you have on this family would be great.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
 On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
 Sean,
 
 It is Catarina Candeis. 
 If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents 
 along with her marriage and death. 
 
 Gayle
 
 
> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
> 
> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
> 
> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can 
> decipher.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

His obit said he was seventy-three "more or less" which should also help to pin 
him down. However, her obit is so easy to read, this should be enough. 

Gayle



> On May 18, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> I did find the obit for his wife which is on the top right for Caterina: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P111.html
> 
> She died a couple of years after him and NEPS said this would be his obit 
> which I listed in my other post. I was hoping his wife would be in the obit 
> so I coould confirm it was the correct one.
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:40:37 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> Sean,
>> 
>> It says he was a native of Lages and a resident of Sao Mateus. 
>> 
>> Try looking up his wife's death record. It may list him which would make the 
>> connection between them. It was probably just an oversight on the part of 
>> the priest to forget to list his wife.
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
>>> 
>>> I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having 
>>> trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like 
>>> it lists his parish but not his wife.
>>> 
>>> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
 Thanks!
 
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
> Sean,
> 
> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
> 
> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She married 
> Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 and died 
> 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
> 
> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias both 
> of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5 Jan 
> 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died 10 
> Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia 
> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 
> 1718 also in Sao Mateus. 
> 
> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
> 
> Gayle
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gayle,
>> 
>> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
>> 
>> Any info you have on this family would be great.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> It is Catarina Candeis. 
>>> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents 
>>> along with her marriage and death. 
>>> 
>>> Gayle
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
 
 Can anyone see which parish they are from?
 
 I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can 
 decipher.
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

[Sean Andrade]

Thank you. That is helpful. Cateno Silviera is my ancestor married to his 
daughter.

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 8:03:38 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> The record does not name his wife, however, if you look at the bottom, t 
> references his sons to whom he left his inheritance with the executor of 
> the will being his son in law Caetano Silveira.
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
>> I did find the obit for his wife which is on the top right for Caterina: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P111.html
>>
>> She died a couple of years after him and NEPS said this would be his obit 
>> which I listed in my other post. I was hoping his wife would be in the obit 
>> so I coould confirm it was the correct one.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:40:37 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean,
>>>
>>> It says he was a native of Lages and a resident of Sao Mateus. 
>>>
>>> Try looking up his wife's death record. It may list him which would make 
>>> the connection between them. It was probably just an oversight on the part 
>>> of the priest to forget to list his wife.
>>>
>>> Gayle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 18, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
>>>
>>> I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am 
>>> having trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It 
>>> looks like it lists his parish but not his wife.
>>>
>>> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:

 Thanks!

 On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
>
> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She 
> married Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 
> and died 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
>
> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias 
> both of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 
> 5 
> Jan 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina 
> (died 
> 10 Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia 
> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 
> 1718 
> also in Sao Mateus. 
>
> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Gayle,
>
> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
>
> Any info you have on this family would be great.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> It is Catarina Candeis. 
>> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents 
>> along with her marriage and death. 
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>>
>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>>
>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can 
>> decipher.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

[Margaret Vicente]

The record does not name his wife, however, if you look at the bottom, t
references his sons to whom he left his inheritance with the executor of
the will being his son in law Caetano Silveira.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Sean Andrade 
wrote:

> I did find the obit for his wife which is on the top right for Caterina:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P111.html
>
> She died a couple of years after him and NEPS said this would be his obit
> which I listed in my other post. I was hoping his wife would be in the obit
> so I coould confirm it was the correct one.
>
> On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:40:37 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> It says he was a native of Lages and a resident of Sao Mateus.
>>
>> Try looking up his wife's death record. It may list him which would make
>> the connection between them. It was probably just an oversight on the part
>> of the priest to forget to list his wife.
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 18, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
>>
>> I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having
>> trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like
>> it lists his parish but not his wife.
>>
>> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:

 Sean,

 I descend through her brother Mateus.

 I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She
 married Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707
 and died 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806.

 Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias
 both of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5
 Jan 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died
 10 Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia
 Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718
 also in Sao Mateus.

 Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different.

 Gayle



 On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:

 Hi Gayle,

 Are you a descendant of Antonia's?

 Any info you have on this family would be great.

 Thanks!

 On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> It is Catarina Candeis.
> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents
> along with her marriage and death.
>
> Gayle
>
>
> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>
> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>
> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can
> decipher.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

[Sean Andrade]

I did find the obit for his wife which is on the top right for 
Caterina: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P111.html

She died a couple of years after him and NEPS said this would be his obit 
which I listed in my other post. I was hoping his wife would be in the obit 
so I coould confirm it was the correct one.

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:40:37 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> It says he was a native of Lages and a resident of Sao Mateus. 
>
> Try looking up his wife's death record. It may list him which would make 
> the connection between them. It was probably just an oversight on the part 
> of the priest to forget to list his wife.
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On May 18, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
>
> I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having 
> trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like 
> it lists his parish but not his wife.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean,
>>>
>>> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
>>>
>>> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She 
>>> married Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 
>>> and died 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
>>>
>>> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias 
>>> both of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5 
>>> Jan 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died 
>>> 10 Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia 
>>> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718 
>>> also in Sao Mateus. 
>>>
>>> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
>>>
>>> Gayle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Gayle,
>>>
>>> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
>>>
>>> Any info you have on this family would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:

 Sean,

 It is Catarina Candeis. 
 If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents 
 along with her marriage and death. 

 Gayle


 On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html

 Can anyone see which parish they are from?

 I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can 
 decipher.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

It says he was a native of Lages and a resident of Sao Mateus. 

Try looking up his wife's death record. It may list him which would make the 
connection between them. It was probably just an oversight on the part of the 
priest to forget to list his wife.

Gayle



> On May 18, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
> 
> I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having 
> trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like it 
> lists his parish but not his wife.
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
>>> 
>>> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She married 
>>> Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 and died 
>>> 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
>>> 
>>> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias both 
>>> of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5 Jan 
>>> 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died 10 
>>> Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia 
>>> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718 
>>> also in Sao Mateus. 
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
>>> 
>>> Gayle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
 
 Hi Gayle,
 
 Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
 
 Any info you have on this family would be great.
 
 Thanks!
 
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
> Sean,
> 
> It is Catarina Candeis. 
> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents along 
> with her marriage and death. 
> 
> Gayle
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>> 
>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>> 
>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Sean, I don't see a wife listed but it may be there somewhere, just so
faint. He died the 5th of Jan 1751 though in desta (this)  village.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade 
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
>
> I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having
> trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like
> it lists his parish but not his wife.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean,
>>>
>>> I descend through her brother Mateus.
>>>
>>> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She
>>> married Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707
>>> and died 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806.
>>>
>>> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias
>>> both of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5
>>> Jan 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died
>>> 10 Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia
>>> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718
>>> also in Sao Mateus.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different.
>>>
>>> Gayle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Gayle,
>>>
>>> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
>>>
>>> Any info you have on this family would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:

 Sean,

 It is Catarina Candeis.
 If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents
 along with her marriage and death.

 Gayle


 On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html

 Can anyone see which parish they are from?

 I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can
 decipher.

 Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

It does list his parish. I don't see his wife's name, but I'm viewing it on my 
phone so I can't guarantee it's not there. 

Gayle



> On May 18, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom left: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html
> 
> I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having 
> trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like it 
> lists his parish but not his wife.
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
>>> 
>>> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She married 
>>> Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 and died 
>>> 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
>>> 
>>> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias both 
>>> of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5 Jan 
>>> 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died 10 
>>> Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia 
>>> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718 
>>> also in Sao Mateus. 
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
>>> 
>>> Gayle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
 
 Hi Gayle,
 
 Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
 
 Any info you have on this family would be great.
 
 Thanks!
 
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
> Sean,
> 
> It is Catarina Candeis. 
> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents along 
> with her marriage and death. 
> 
> Gayle
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>> 
>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>> 
>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

[Sean Andrade]

Hi,

Here is a death record for Matues Machado on the bottom 
left: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P99.html

I can't make out his wife's name or even see if it is listed. I am having 
trouble making out anything really since it is pretty faded. It looks like 
it lists his parish but not his wife.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!



On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
>>
>> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She married 
>> Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 and died 
>> 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
>>
>> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias both 
>> of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5 Jan 
>> 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died 10 
>> Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia 
>> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718 
>> also in Sao Mateus. 
>>
>> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gayle,
>>
>> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
>>
>> Any info you have on this family would be great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean,
>>>
>>> It is Catarina Candeis. 
>>> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents 
>>> along with her marriage and death. 
>>>
>>> Gayle
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>>>
>>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>>>
>>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

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Thanks!

On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 10:16:33 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> I descend through her brother Mateus. 
>
> I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She married 
> Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 and died 
> 15 Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 
>
> Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias both 
> of Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5 Jan 
> 1751) was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died 10 
> Oct 1753) was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia 
> Candeias. Francisco died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718 
> also in Sao Mateus. 
>
> Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
> Hi Gayle,
>
> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
>
> Any info you have on this family would be great.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> It is Catarina Candeis. 
>> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents along 
>> with her marriage and death. 
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>>
>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>>
>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

I descend through her brother Mateus. 

I show Antonia Jesus born 25 June 1722, baptized on the 28th. She married 
Francisco Vieira Goulart on 22 Feb 1740. He was born 23 Jan 1707 and died 15 
Sep 1772. Antonia died 25 May 1806. 

Antonia's parents were Mateus Machado Ferreira and Catarina Candeias both of 
Lages. They were married 15 May 1701 in Sao Mateus. Mateus (died 5 Jan 1751) 
was the son of Manuel Machado and Maria Ferreira. Catarina (died 10 Oct 1753) 
was the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia Candeias. Francisco 
died 21May 1718 in Sao Mateus. Apolonia died 1 Feb 1718 also in Sao Mateus. 

Hope that helps. Let me know if you find anything more. Or, different. 

Gayle



> On May 16, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
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> Hi Gayle,
> 
> Are you a descendant of Antonia's?
> 
> Any info you have on this family would be great.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:02:42 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> Sean,
>> 
>> It is Catarina Candeis. 
>> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents along 
>> with her marriage and death. 
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>>> 
>>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>>> 
>>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

[Sean Andrade]

Hi Gayle,

Are you a descendant of Antonia's?

Any info you have on this family would be great.

Thanks!

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> Sean,
>
> It is Catarina Candeis. 
> If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents along 
> with her marriage and death. 
>
> Gayle
>
>
> On May 16, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>
> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>
> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

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Sean,

It is Catarina Candeis. 
If you need more info on this family, I have Antonia's grandparents along with 
her marriage and death. 

Gayle


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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
> 
> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
> 
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> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

[JR]

You have to ask someone researching Pico. The records say they are from (SS 
church) within Sao Mateus, as  per previous post- so I would say yes.

JR

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> So their records would still be under Sao Mateus?
>
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 6:55:13 PM UTC-7, JR wrote:
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>> It is most likely Catarina das Candeias. As Cheri said, they are natives 
>> of Santissima Trindade, which is fraguesia within the freguesia of Sao 
>> Matheus. So it is probably subordinate church of the said freguesia.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 9:14:15 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote:
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>>> Catarina das Candios/dias?? 
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosemarie 
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>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html

 Can anyone see which parish they are from?

 I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can 
 decipher.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

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So their records would still be under Sao Mateus?

On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 6:55:13 PM UTC-7, JR wrote:
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> It is most likely Catarina das Candeias. As Cheri said, they are natives 
> of Santissima Trindade, which is fraguesia within the freguesia of Sao 
> Matheus. So it is probably subordinate church of the said freguesia.
>
> JR
>
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>> Catarina das Candios/dias?? 
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie 
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>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  
>> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>>>
>>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>>>
>>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

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It is most likely Catarina das Candeias. As Cheri said, they are natives of 
Santissima Trindade, which is fraguesia within the freguesia of Sao 
Matheus. So it is probably subordinate church of the said freguesia.

JR

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> Catarina das Candios/dias?? 
>
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> Rosemarie 
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top left: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1703-1748_item1/P132.html
>>
>> Can anyone see which parish they are from?
>>
>> I am also having difficulty with the mothers name if anyone can decipher.
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

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Catarina das Candios/dias??


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

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Mom is Catarina (C.ra) das _. The parents are from Santissma? or Santa
(S^ma) Trindade Trind^e), in the villa (V^a) of Lajes. They are now with
the Sao Mateus parish.

Hope someone can add to mom's name. I think Catarina.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Birth Record

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Hi,

Here is a birth record for an Antonia on the top 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico research

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Any ideas how to research Pico?  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES-Genealogy Pico,Madelina

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Manny Furtado
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Mountain Observatory Azores

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http://instaar.colorado.edu/pico/


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra up on CCA

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Pico da Pedra records are online on CCA site for those who have ancestors
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra up on CCA

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Thanx Pam,thats one  of the areas I need!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico and Terceira ancestors

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I've been told this Google list has over 1200 subscribers, but I never see more than about 20-30 people who post a message. Maybe it's 50-75 if I'm very charitable. I realize most just want to do what once was called "lurking" and might still be called that, where they just read the messages. Unless everyone subscribes under 10 different emails, I just wonder who are the rest of the subscribers.So I got an idea. If you have Pico or Terceira ancestors and want a little genealogy gift you can email me in private to one of these two addresses, depending on if you have Pico or Terceira ancestors to get your gift:p...@dholmes.comorterce...@dholmes.comThis is for people I'm not already in contact with and not for those with whom I might have recently corresponded in private. If you used to email me and haven't done so in years, I'd be happy to hear from you again. And if we've never exchanged email, I'd love to meet another person with similar ancestry.If you are an expert genealogist I might have met you long ago by email and my little gift probably won't be of any value to you. Still, I would love to "meet" you. But if you are not so great at research and especially a beginner, you will possibly be thrilled at what I send you.Depending on how many respond, it could take some time for my reply, so be patient.Thanks,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi Doug!

If you have a very specific question on your Pico da Pedra ones (as I am going 
to the Archives) I may try to find them in the digitalized documents…

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

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Hi Eliseu,That's nice of you, but I'll just wait for the records to be posted online.I'm not in any hurry and enjoy doing it myself.Once again, I appreciate the info you sent yesterday.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Hi Doug!If you have a very specific question on your Pico da Pedra ones (as I am going to the Archives) I may try to find them in the digitalized documents…Eliseu Pacheco da SilvaResearching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )  





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

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I recently learned that one of my cousins on my German/Hungarian/Slovak side married into a family with Azores ancestry.Just this morning I discovered that family came from Pico da Pedra in the concelho de Ribeira Grande which is going to be the very last one put online by the CCA.In any case, I thought it would be fun to mention what I know without any additional research and maybe someone connects to them. These are the ancestors of someone named John Specht, the son of my first cousin. He just ordered the Family Finder test yesterday, so we'll eventually find lots of DNA matches, but this message will serve as an early look as to whom he might link to by the time his results are back in about May or June.The family ended up in Bristol, Rhode Island and came from Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel.The mother emigrated with her daughter, Olivia, and her own mother. Apparently her husband emigrated a year or two earlier, which is common.Maria Julia de Medeiros, born 1889-1890 in Pico da Pedra, daughter of Luis da Camara de Medeiros and Isabel de Jesus.The above Isabel de Jesus, grandmother to Olivia and mother to Maria Julia de Medeiros, was 53 years old when they were listed in the passports dated 26 Aug 1912 (passport #1735) departing from Ponta Delgada to the USA. She was already a widow by then. She is the daughter of Antonio Bernardo and Jacinta de Jesus. By my calculation, she would have been born in Pico da Pedra in 1858-1859.Other than more descendants which we could share with proven cousins, that's pretty much all we know.I'll wait for the Pico da Pedra church records to appear online and trace them back more. It is my hope at least one remote line came from Pico or Terceira, but that's probably not likely.The 1920 or 30 census says they all immigrated in 1910, but I think that year might have applied to just the husband, Manuel de Almeida Moniz, and in 1912 he probably earned the money to send for his wife and daughter. And since his wife's mother was a widow, she came along, too.In the USA, they were known as Manuel Almeida and Julia. Moniz was not a name their descendants knew. Family tradition is that the parents of Manuel Almeida were Jose and Isabel Almeida. We'll see if his father also used Moniz or if that was picked up from his mother, Isabel. They might also be from Pico da Pedra, but as yet to be confirmed.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi!

I have the birth record for Maria… not sure why, but I think someone asked me 
sometime ago…

Anyway… here you have:

 

Livro de Batismos de 30.10.1889, Pico da Pedra, Assento nº 51, Flh 22.

- Both parents were born at Pico da Pedra

Maria was granddaughter of:

- maternal side: António Bernardo Aguiar and Jacinta Augusta

- paternal side: Manuel da Câmara de Medeiros and Carolina Cândida

 

Godfather was José Cabral, unmarried man.

 

Hope it helps

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(  http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de 
p...@dholmes.com
Enviada: domingo, 13 de Abril de 2014 20:09
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

 

I recently learned that one of my cousins on my German/Hungarian/Slovak side 
married into a family with Azores ancestry.

 

Just this morning I discovered that family came from Pico da Pedra in the 
concelho de Ribeira Grande which is going to be the very last one put online by 
the CCA.

 

In any case, I thought it would be fun to mention what I know without any 
additional research and maybe someone connects to them. These are the ancestors 
of someone named John Specht, the son of my first cousin. He just ordered the 
Family Finder test yesterday, so we'll eventually find lots of DNA matches, but 
this message will serve as an early look as to whom he might link to by the 
time his results are back in about May or June.

 

The family ended up in Bristol, Rhode Island and came from Pico da Pedra, Sao 
Miguel.

The mother emigrated with her daughter, Olivia, and her own mother. Apparently 
her husband emigrated a year or two earlier, which is common.

 

Maria Julia de Medeiros, born 1889-1890 in Pico da Pedra, daughter of Luis da 
Camara de Medeiros and Isabel de Jesus.

 

The above Isabel de Jesus, grandmother to Olivia and mother to Maria Julia de 
Medeiros, was 53 years old when they were listed in the passports dated 26 Aug 
1912 (passport #1735) departing from Ponta Delgada to the USA. She was already 
a widow by then. She is the daughter of Antonio Bernardo and Jacinta de Jesus. 
By my calculation, she would have been born in Pico da Pedra in 1858-1859.

 

Other than more descendants which we could share with proven cousins, that's 
pretty much all we know.

 

I'll wait for the Pico da Pedra church records to appear online and trace them 
back more. It is my hope at least one remote line came from Pico or Terceira, 
but that's probably not likely.

 

The 1920 or 30 census says they all immigrated in 1910, but I think that year 
might have applied to just the husband, Manuel de Almeida Moniz, and in 1912 he 
probably earned the money to send for his wife and daughter. And since his 
wife's mother was a widow, she came along, too.

 

In the USA, they were known as Manuel Almeida and Julia. Moniz was not a name 
their descendants knew. Family tradition is that the parents of Manuel Almeida 
were Jose and Isabel Almeida. We'll see if his father also used Moniz or if 
that was picked up from his mother, Isabel. They might also be from Pico da 
Pedra, but as yet to be confirmed.

 

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico  Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618

www.dholmes.com http://www.dholmes.com 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi!

I have the birth record for Maria… not sure why, but I think someone asked me 
sometime ago…

Anyway… here you have:

 

Livro de Batismos de 30.10.1889, Pico da Pedra, Assento nº 51, Flh 22.

She was the granddaughter of:

-  Paternal side – Manuel da Câmara de Medeiros and Carolina Cândida

-  Maternal side – António Bernardo Aguiar and Jacinta Augusta

Godfather was José Cabral, unmarried man

 

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(  http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )

 

 

 

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de 
p...@dholmes.com
Enviada: domingo, 13 de Abril de 2014 20:09
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

 

I recently learned that one of my cousins on my German/Hungarian/Slovak side 
married into a family with Azores ancestry.

 

Just this morning I discovered that family came from Pico da Pedra in the 
concelho de Ribeira Grande which is going to be the very last one put online by 
the CCA.

 

In any case, I thought it would be fun to mention what I know without any 
additional research and maybe someone connects to them. These are the ancestors 
of someone named John Specht, the son of my first cousin. He just ordered the 
Family Finder test yesterday, so we'll eventually find lots of DNA matches, but 
this message will serve as an early look as to whom he might link to by the 
time his results are back in about May or June.

 

The family ended up in Bristol, Rhode Island and came from Pico da Pedra, Sao 
Miguel.

The mother emigrated with her daughter, Olivia, and her own mother. Apparently 
her husband emigrated a year or two earlier, which is common.

 

Maria Julia de Medeiros, born 1889-1890 in Pico da Pedra, daughter of Luis da 
Camara de Medeiros and Isabel de Jesus.

 

The above Isabel de Jesus, grandmother to Olivia and mother to Maria Julia de 
Medeiros, was 53 years old when they were listed in the passports dated 26 Aug 
1912 (passport #1735) departing from Ponta Delgada to the USA. She was already 
a widow by then. She is the daughter of Antonio Bernardo and Jacinta de Jesus. 
By my calculation, she would have been born in Pico da Pedra in 1858-1859.

 

Other than more descendants which we could share with proven cousins, that's 
pretty much all we know.

 

I'll wait for the Pico da Pedra church records to appear online and trace them 
back more. It is my hope at least one remote line came from Pico or Terceira, 
but that's probably not likely.

 

The 1920 or 30 census says they all immigrated in 1910, but I think that year 
might have applied to just the husband, Manuel de Almeida Moniz, and in 1912 he 
probably earned the money to send for his wife and daughter. And since his 
wife's mother was a widow, she came along, too.

 

In the USA, they were known as Manuel Almeida and Julia. Moniz was not a name 
their descendants knew. Family tradition is that the parents of Manuel Almeida 
were Jose and Isabel Almeida. We'll see if his father also used Moniz or if 
that was picked up from his mother, Isabel. They might also be from Pico da 
Pedra, but as yet to be confirmed.

 

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico  Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618

 http://www.dholmes.com www.dholmes.com

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Grandparents

[Sandra Valine Dauer]

Hello Cousin Bob Ross
My great-grandmother Francisca Laureana (1852-1951) and your Maria Macedo
(1847-1934) appear to be second cousins on the NEPS site.
Common ancestors Manuel deMacedo Evangelho and Josefa Francisca
all from the village of Lajes do Pico on the island of Pico.
Sandra Valine Dauer
Bakersfield Ca


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Bob Ross bob.ross...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hello,
   I've been off the site for a year or so and I just want to put out a
 general inquiry for possible cousins. Both Grandparents were born on
 Pico. I DO have specifics on my Great Grandparents and research on the NEPS
 site: My Grandfather was born in Lajes do Pico; his father is Manuel Inacio
 Brum (b.1840/d.1922) and mother is Maria Macedo (b.1847/d.1934). My
 Grandmother was born in Bandeiras; her father is Roque Faria Costa (d.1932)
 and mother is Maria Carolina [Serpa] (b.1858/d.1894). Thank You Very Much,
  Bob Ross   P.S. Bandeiras is included with Municipality of Magdalena on
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Grandparents

[Bob Ross]

  Hello,
  I've been off the site for a year or so and I just want to put out a 
general inquiry for possible cousins. Both Grandparents were born on 
Pico. I DO have specifics on my Great Grandparents and research on the NEPS 
site: My Grandfather was born in Lajes do Pico; his father is Manuel Inacio 
Brum (b.1840/d.1922) and mother is Maria Macedo (b.1847/d.1934). My 
Grandmother was born in Bandeiras; her father is Roque Faria Costa (d.1932) 
and mother is Maria Carolina [Serpa] (b.1858/d.1894). Thank You Very Much, 
 Bob Ross   P.S. Bandeiras is included with Municipality of Magdalena on 
NEPS.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico, Sao Mateus - Help with date of birth

[Joe Matias]

I would say March,26



On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I finally found the baptismal record of Laurianna Florinda, who according
 to her death record would have been born about 1794.

 Of course, genealogy is always a mystery...her son-in-law said she was
 four years older than what she was!


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1776-1799/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1776-1799_item1/P284.html

 I know the year is 1798 and that her parents are Manoel Ferreira de Matos
 and Joanna Ignacia (still have not found their marriage record, not for
 lack of looking back over a 20 year period, not have I found other children
 of this couple).

 Can some please help with the day and month of birth please?

 Thanks for all of your help!

 Lee Estep, WV

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico, Sao Mateus - Help with date of birth

[Gayle Machado]

Lee,

I agree with Roselyn as to the dates. When you continue your research, you may 
find Laurianna Inacia's (Inacia comes from the Amorim database) great 
grandparents are Manuel Furtado Costa and Apelonia Remedios. This couple are my 
ancestors as well. I may be of some help when you get to this point. 

Amorim shows Lauriana's maternal grandparents as Mateus Furtado Cardoso and 
Josefa Maria. It also gives birthdates for her parents as 17 Nov 1752 and 11 
Mar 1753. These dates may help you as you search the CCA database. 

Happy hunting. 

Gayle

On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I finally found the baptismal record of Laurianna Florinda, who according to 
 her death record would have been born about 1794.
  
 Of course, genealogy is always a mystery...her son-in-law said she was four 
 years older than what she was! 
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1776-1799/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1776-1799_item1/P284.html
  
 I know the year is 1798 and that her parents are Manoel Ferreira de Matos and 
 Joanna Ignacia (still have not found their marriage record, not for lack of 
 looking back over a 20 year period, not have I found other children of this 
 couple).
  
 Can some please help with the day and month of birth please?
  
 Thanks for all of your help!
  
 Lee Estep, WV
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico, Sao Mateus - Help with date of birth

[Lee]

Gayle (and others) 

Thank you! The Ignacia was Laurianna's mother, Joanna Ignacias.  

Also, I've never heard if this Anorim? Database that you mentioned...where 
would I find it?

Lee

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico, Sao Mateus - Help with date of birth

[Gayle Machado]

Lee,

Norberta Amorim is the coordinator for the CITCEM (formerly called NEPS) 
database. She is a Socialogy professor at the University of Minho. She has 
authored many books in addition to the website. 

You can access the website at:
www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt

Go to the Genealogies sub-menu to access the Azores. 

Since my earlier e-mail, I've been playing with both CCA and CITCEM and I've 
found out that Laureanna's father was born in Sao Joao not Sao Mateus. His 
parents are Tome Ferreira and Maria Josefa. The other note of interest is that 
they have him as Manuel Ferreira Goulart not Ferreira Matos. The birth and 
death dates are exact matches, however. (I was curious because Sao Mateus 
showed a birthdate but no parents which didn't make a lot of sense. So I 
explored other villages.) The Sao Joao database at CITCEM shows four more 
generations in that village. That's as far as I've gotten so far. 

Anyway, I hope these small tidbits help. 

Gayle

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 Gayle (and others) 
 
 Thank you! The Ignacia was Laurianna's mother, Joanna Ignacias.  
 
 Also, I've never heard if this Anorim? Database that you mentioned...where 
 would I find it?
 
 Lee
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico, Sao Mateus - Help with date of birth

[Gayle Machado]

Lee,

I've just found Laureanna's maternal grandmother Josefa Maria marrying Mateus 
Furtado in Candelaria. She was born there to parents Francisco Costa Maciel and 
Clara Rosa. And, another connection between you and I now exists. 
Unfortunately, Candelaria's records are like Swiss cheese- full of holes. There 
are large gaps in the records. Also, many of the pages are extremely faint. So, 
even if you can find the record, you may not be able to read it. Sao Mateus' 
records are head and shoulders better than those in Candelaria. 

I'll let you know if I have any more  break throughs. 

Gayle

On Nov 10, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Gayle Machado goodw...@aol.com wrote:

 Lee,
 
 Norberta Amorim is the coordinator for the CITCEM (formerly called NEPS) 
 database. She is a Socialogy professor at the University of Minho. She has 
 authored many books in addition to the website. 
 
 You can access the website at:
 www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt
 
 Go to the Genealogies sub-menu to access the Azores. 
 
 Since my earlier e-mail, I've been playing with both CCA and CITCEM and I've 
 found out that Laureanna's father was born in Sao Joao not Sao Mateus. His 
 parents are Tome Ferreira and Maria Josefa. The other note of interest is 
 that they have him as Manuel Ferreira Goulart not Ferreira Matos. The birth 
 and death dates are exact matches, however. (I was curious because Sao Mateus 
 showed a birthdate but no parents which didn't make a lot of sense. So I 
 explored other villages.) The Sao Joao database at CITCEM shows four more 
 generations in that village. That's as far as I've gotten so far. 
 
 Anyway, I hope these small tidbits help. 
 
 Gayle
 
 On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 Gayle (and others) 
 
 Thank you! The Ignacia was Laurianna's mother, Joanna Ignacias.  
 
 Also, I've never heard if this Anorim? Database that you mentioned...where 
 would I find it?
 
 Lee
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico, Sao Mateus - Help with date of birth

[Lee]

Gayle,

THANK YOU!

Think Manirl and Joanna must had two daughters named Laureanna...mine died in 
Flamengosi in 1868 with the same parents names and place of birth...which come 
out as 1794, but cannot a birth record for in that year...now I'm getting 
confused again...lol...she had a child in 1841 and I don't think she gad a 
child at 47/48...too late in life...1798 would make more sense

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico, Sao Mateus - Help with date of birth

[Gayle Machado]

Lee,

Actually, one of the weird patterns I've noticed on Pico is that women often 
had children up until their first grandchild was born. Late 40's was not 
uncommon to have children especially when there was no birth control. Some 
families had a dozen children spaced at 18-24 months apart.  (Many women don't 
hit menopause until their 50's.) 

Speaking as a woman, I'm so glad those days are gone. 

Let me know if I can be of further help. 

Gayle

On Nov 10, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Gayle,
 
 THANK YOU!
 
 Think Manirl and Joanna must had two daughters named Laureanna...mine died in 
 Flamengosi in 1868 with the same parents names and place of birth...which 
 come out as 1794, but cannot a birth record for in that year...now I'm 
 getting confused again...lol...she had a child in 1841 and I don't think she 
 gad a child at 47/48...too late in life...1798 would make more sense
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Faial grandparents...

[pereira22]

Hello Cousin!!!
Yippee!! It is always exciting to find new cousins. Are you sure we haven't 
emailed before? Your name is familiar. Anyway, your grandma, Mary Amelia, is my 
3rd cousin 1 x removed. And both your ggrandparents are cousins. I am connected 
to everyone that you mentioned. 

Oh, I grew up in Jamestown, RI, close to you, but have lived in Las Vegas for 
many years. You have filled in a few blanks for me Thanks.

Patricia
 Patricia Paquette mee...@aol.com wrote: 
 Patricia-I believe we may have some common ancestry. Not sure the  
 exact relationship but this shows on one of 60 pages I received from a  
 member of this group. My Grandmother was born in Cedros  Faial -Mary  
 Amelia Dutra-she married John Arruda Botelho son of Jose Arruda  
 Botelho and Ana Leite Borges Bicudo was born
 on 12 Jul 1882 in Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores. He  
 died on 14 Aug
 1970 in Bristol, RI.
 5.  Mary Amelia Dutra daughter of Francisco Pereira Dutra Escobar and  
 Rosa Maria da
 Conceicao was born on 02 Aug 1891 in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial,  
 Azores. She died on
 06 Jun 1960 in Newport, RI.
 John Arruda Botelho and Mary Amelia Dutra were married etc.
 
 Elsewhere is the info below-that has some similarities to what you  
 posted:
 
   93. Ana Maria  daughter of Antonio Silveira GOULART and Maria Dutra  
 was born on 31 Jul
 1765 in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores. She died on 02 Aug 1833  
 in Santa Barbara,
 Cedros, Faial, Azores.
 Jose Francisco Pereira da Rosa Rodrigues and Ana Maria were married on  
 14 Jun 1788 in
 Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.They had the following children:
 i. Antonio da Rosa  was born in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
 ii. Francisco da Rosa  was born in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
 iii. Vicente Silveira da Rosa  was born on 23 Jan 1789 in Santa Barbara,
 Cedros, Faial, Azores. He married Francisca Luisa Escobar on 22 Nov 1813
 in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores. He died on 14 Jul 1872 in Santa
 Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
 +46. iv. Jose Francisco da Rosa  was born on 29 Jun 1790
 
 Thought they may be the same Antonio Silveria Goulart?  Patricia  
 Arruda Paquette Middletown R.I.
 
 
 
 On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:15 PM, pereir...@cox.net pereir...@cox.net  
 wrote:
 
  Hi Shirley,
  How have you been? My grandfather was Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar  
  b. March 8.1868 in Cedros, Faial, son of Tomas, grandson of Antonio  
   ggrandson of Manuel Silveira Goularte b. 1765 in Cedros, Faial.
 
  My grandmother was Maria da Conceicao Avila b. Sept 30, 1873 in  
  Ribeiras, Pico, dau of Manuel Machado Avila b. March 7, 1832   
  ggrandaughter of Manuel Machado Avila b. July 1, 1790 in Ribeiras,  
  Pico.
 
  I also have Pereira Oliveira, Pires Simas, Pires Ramalho, Vieira  
  Soares  Silveira Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico.
 
  Let me know if you have any more questions.
 
  Patricia
 
   Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote:
  Patricia:  What were the names of your grandparents from Pico   
  Faial???
  When were they born?  Who were their parents??
  My husband has ancestors from Pico  Faial.
 
  Shirley in CA
  - Original Message -
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Cc: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com
  Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Picture of Azores Whalers
 
 
  Thanks E!! Loved reading the whaling article. As you said, as I  
  read about
  each old timer, I wondered if they were cousins I hadn't found yet.  
  Pico 
  Faial are where my grandparents were born.
 
  Patricia
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Faial grandparents...

[Patricia Paquette]

Patricia-I believe we may have some common ancestry. Not sure the  
exact relationship but this shows on one of 60 pages I received from a  
member of this group. My Grandmother was born in Cedros  Faial -Mary  
Amelia Dutra-she married John Arruda Botelho son of Jose Arruda  
Botelho and Ana Leite Borges Bicudo was born
on 12 Jul 1882 in Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores. He  
died on 14 Aug

1970 in Bristol, RI.
5.  Mary Amelia Dutra daughter of Francisco Pereira Dutra Escobar and  
Rosa Maria da
Conceicao was born on 02 Aug 1891 in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial,  
Azores. She died on

06 Jun 1960 in Newport, RI.
John Arruda Botelho and Mary Amelia Dutra were married etc.

Elsewhere is the info below-that has some similarities to what you  
posted:


 93. Ana Maria  daughter of Antonio Silveira GOULART and Maria Dutra  
was born on 31 Jul
1765 in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores. She died on 02 Aug 1833  
in Santa Barbara,

Cedros, Faial, Azores.
Jose Francisco Pereira da Rosa Rodrigues and Ana Maria were married on  
14 Jun 1788 in

Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.They had the following children:
i. Antonio da Rosa  was born in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
ii. Francisco da Rosa  was born in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
iii. Vicente Silveira da Rosa  was born on 23 Jan 1789 in Santa Barbara,
Cedros, Faial, Azores. He married Francisca Luisa Escobar on 22 Nov 1813
in Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores. He died on 14 Jul 1872 in Santa
Barbara, Cedros, Faial, Azores.
+46. iv. Jose Francisco da Rosa  was born on 29 Jun 1790

Thought they may be the same Antonio Silveria Goulart?  Patricia  
Arruda Paquette Middletown R.I.




On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:15 PM, pereir...@cox.net pereir...@cox.net  
wrote:



Hi Shirley,
How have you been? My grandfather was Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar  
b. March 8.1868 in Cedros, Faial, son of Tomas, grandson of Antonio  
 ggrandson of Manuel Silveira Goularte b. 1765 in Cedros, Faial.


My grandmother was Maria da Conceicao Avila b. Sept 30, 1873 in  
Ribeiras, Pico, dau of Manuel Machado Avila b. March 7, 1832   
ggrandaughter of Manuel Machado Avila b. July 1, 1790 in Ribeiras,  
Pico.


I also have Pereira Oliveira, Pires Simas, Pires Ramalho, Vieira  
Soares  Silveira Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico.


Let me know if you have any more questions.

Patricia

 Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote:
Patricia:  What were the names of your grandparents from Pico   
Faial???

When were they born?  Who were their parents??
My husband has ancestors from Pico  Faial.

Shirley in CA
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Cc: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Picture of Azores Whalers


Thanks E!! Loved reading the whaling article. As you said, as I  
read about
each old timer, I wondered if they were cousins I hadn't found yet.  
Pico 

Faial are where my grandparents were born.

Patricia

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Faial grandparents...

[pereira22]

Hi Shirley,
How have you been? My grandfather was Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. March 
8.1868 in Cedros, Faial, son of Tomas, grandson of Antonio  ggrandson of 
Manuel Silveira Goularte b. 1765 in Cedros, Faial.

My grandmother was Maria da Conceicao Avila b. Sept 30, 1873 in Ribeiras, Pico, 
dau of Manuel Machado Avila b. March 7, 1832  ggrandaughter of Manuel Machado 
Avila b. July 1, 1790 in Ribeiras, Pico. 

 I also have Pereira Oliveira, Pires Simas, Pires Ramalho, Vieira Soares  
Silveira Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico.

Let me know if you have any more questions. 

Patricia

 Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: 
 Patricia:  What were the names of your grandparents from Pico  Faial???
 When were they born?  Who were their parents??
 My husband has ancestors from Pico  Faial.
 
 Shirley in CA
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 From: pereir...@cox.net
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Cc: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Picture of Azores Whalers
 
 
 Thanks E!! Loved reading the whaling article. As you said, as I read about 
 each old timer, I wondered if they were cousins I hadn't found yet. Pico  
 Faial are where my grandparents were born.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[James Albertson]

Wow! I know I'm a novice at this, but when researching my German and Irish 
lines it seemed that things came so easily.  I guess I became complacent 
because I had thought I'd looked every place there was to find this 
information. But then again, it seems the Azores is a completely different 
animal. Thanks for your help!

Jim Albertson

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:51:35 PM UTC-6, luiznoia wrote:

 JIm, 

 Take a look at this NEPS site entry

  
 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;i=44416;oc=4394

 This is a Manuel born  3 April 1839 in Madelena, Pico

 father is Antonio Rosa Silveira and mother is Catarina Tomasia. Her father 
 Jose Brum Silveira.  Any old timer here can tell you a Azores child might 
 take any number of surnames, including grandparents. 

 Your Manuel's birthdate is listed as 4 Apr 1839, which could be the 
 baptism date.

 Eric Edgar

 On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM, James Albertson 
 biggert...@msn.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I'm trying to find information on my 3rd GGrandfather. Manuel Brune b1839 
 d1907. He arrived in the U.S. in 1865, Married Lugarda Espinosa in 1868. 
 His parents were Antonio Brune and Catharine Silveria of Pico.
  I've been unable to find his place of arrival or naturalization records. 
 In the 1900 census he is listed as naturalized. 
 I know he is from Pico Island, but I need this information to (maybe) 
 find the village he's from.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Jim

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[James Albertson]

The year I had for their marriage came from the 1900 census. It's highly 
possible it was transcribed wrong. Thanks!!!

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:18:38 PM UTC-6, luiznoia wrote:

 They married in Monterey county in 1866. You might check to original 
 record on microfilm to confirm the parents name. He was naturalized at 
 Monterey on 23 Aug 1867 as evidenced by several Great Registers of Voters. 
 He used Manuel Brown on most and Brune on some. There is no record on NEPS 
 that fits parent and child on PIco.

 name:Manuel Bruno https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZ3F-NHC event 
 type:Marriage event date:13 Oct 1866 event place: Monterey, California, 
 United Statesgender: Maleage: 27birth year (estimated): 1839father's name: 
 mother's 
 name: spouse's name: Lugarda Espinosa spouse's age:17 spouse's gender:
 Female spouse's birth year (estimated):1849 spouse's father's name:spouse's 
 mother's name:page:gs 
 film number: 1290899digital folder number: 004666490image number: 00011


  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Jim A,

I'd say that researching any immigrant ancestor (or at least European
immigrant ancestors) does have some commonalities.  To research just about
anywhere in Europe, you need the village.  And you'd use naturalization,
ships lists, etc to find that village.

There were more German and Irish immigrants to America and they came much
earlier than the Portuguese wave of immigrants.  The German and Irish
records were filmed much earlier and groups formed to help the German and
Irish researcher (the Southern California Genealogical Society has both a
German as well as an Irish Interest Group).  I believe my Family History
Center (FHC) has a class every other month if not monthly on German or
Irish research.

The Genealogical Society of Utah (GSU - today it is called Family Search)
made a contract with the Azorean government to film their records.  They
sent the photographers to film about 1985 or so (Doris Mello of this list
was there in the archive and saw them film)!  Then they had to get the film
developed, processed, and cataloged before we could use it.  I'd say it was
probably around 1990 before people started to use it.  And not many of us
either!  Because many of us in America are at least a couple of generations
removed from our immigrant ancestor, we don't read the language.  So we
were at a loss.  People who knew how to read started teaching others how to
pick apart the records and extract the important genealogical information.
By the mid-1990s, Doug da Rocha Holmes and Rosemarie Capodicci were giving
workshops and I was on America OnLine in the genealogy chat rooms along
with Melody Lassalle and John Vasconcelos helping people out.  And from
there, it just took off.

Azoreans (and the Madeirans, I think) have had access to their records for
almost 25 years.  Cape Verdeans have had access maybe only 7 or 8 years
now!  The German and Irish have probably had access since the filming
began...around the 1940s?  I can't remember.  But much longer than 25
years.  So that is why you've probably had an easier time with those
branches of your family.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[Pam Santos]

I was one of the people on AOL with Cheri and Melody, it took me 15 years
to finally do research on the actual Azores. Because of the naming
tradition I thought it would be too hard and I might make a mistake and
trace the wrong family LOL But it wasn't as hard as I thought after all!!!
I just had to do it since my ex husband grandmother 94years old wasn't
getting any younger. She has been thrilled with what I have sent her so far.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jim A,

 I'd say that researching any immigrant ancestor (or at least European
 immigrant ancestors) does have some commonalities.  To research just about
 anywhere in Europe, you need the village.  And you'd use naturalization,
 ships lists, etc to find that village.

 There were more German and Irish immigrants to America and they came much
 earlier than the Portuguese wave of immigrants.  The German and Irish
 records were filmed much earlier and groups formed to help the German and
 Irish researcher (the Southern California Genealogical Society has both a
 German as well as an Irish Interest Group).  I believe my Family History
 Center (FHC) has a class every other month if not monthly on German or
 Irish research.

 The Genealogical Society of Utah (GSU - today it is called Family Search)
 made a contract with the Azorean government to film their records.  They
 sent the photographers to film about 1985 or so (Doris Mello of this list
 was there in the archive and saw them film)!  Then they had to get the film
 developed, processed, and cataloged before we could use it.  I'd say it was
 probably around 1990 before people started to use it.  And not many of us
 either!  Because many of us in America are at least a couple of generations
 removed from our immigrant ancestor, we don't read the language.  So we
 were at a loss.  People who knew how to read started teaching others how to
 pick apart the records and extract the important genealogical information.
 By the mid-1990s, Doug da Rocha Holmes and Rosemarie Capodicci were giving
 workshops and I was on America OnLine in the genealogy chat rooms along
 with Melody Lassalle and John Vasconcelos helping people out.  And from
 there, it just took off.

 Azoreans (and the Madeirans, I think) have had access to their records for
 almost 25 years.  Cape Verdeans have had access maybe only 7 or 8 years
 now!  The German and Irish have probably had access since the filming
 began...around the 1940s?  I can't remember.  But much longer than 25
 years.  So that is why you've probably had an easier time with those
 branches of your family.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[rcapodc]

OK Jim, I will check before Tuesday if I get the chance. Ark. is a little
too far for you to make the trip but maybe next year when Cheri and I go
to Salt Lake City again  you can make it there!

Rosemarie



It would be great if you could check for me. I don't think I'll be able to
 make it to the FHC though. I live in Fort Smith, Arkansas. :-)

 On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:34:19 PM UTC-6, rcapodc wrote:

   James also check the UPEC Fraternal Society records for any more info
 about where in Pico he came from. I have those records at my local
 Family
 History Center (FHC) but I won’t be going back there until next Tuesday.
 When I do I will check out the ledger book for him. Where to you live,
 James? If you are anywhere close to Monterey CA you can come to the FHC
 any
 Tuesday when I will be working 4—9pm.

 Rosemarie
   *From:* James Albertson javascript:
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:56 PM
 *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839
 d1907

 I don't have any of that information. I've even searched people in the
 first census I could find him in thinking they might have arrived
 together
 with no luck. A man in Santa Cruz, Ca. sent me pictures of the family
 burial plot in Castroville Ca.Cemetery just three days ago and I was
 pleased as punch to see something of the man I've been trying to find
 for
 the last two years. If it weren't for census records I would think he
 just
 fell out of the sky. The following is from my findagrave. What is on the
 headstone about his parents is all I know about them.
   Birth: Apr. 4, 1839
 Azores Region, Portugal Death: Jan. 4, 1907
 Moss Landing
 Monterey County
 California, USA [Edit
 Dates]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=birthAndDeatheditThisIntId=106020716
 Native of Pico, Azores Islands. Son of Antonio and Catharine (Silveria)
 Brune.
 [Edit
 Bio]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=bioeditThisIntId=106020716

 Family links:
 [Edit]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editRelationshipsERid=106020716

 Spouse:
   Lugarda *Espinosa* Brune (1849 -
 1925)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106021110
 *

 Children:
   Manuel Thomas Brune (1868 -
 1953)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106022259
 *
   Gertrude M Brune (1877 -
 1969)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106022120
 *
   James F Brune (1879 -
 1940)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106022009
 *
   John P Brune (1881 -
 1945)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106021865
 *
   Alfonso Brune (1893 -
 1925)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106021345
 *

 *Calculated relationship

 [Add Marker
 Transcription]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=markerTranscriptioneditThisIntId=106020716

 [Add
 Note]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=PublicNoteeditThisIntId=106020716
   Burial:
 [Edit]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=ebioldIntId=106020716
 Castroville Public
 Cemeteryhttp://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=crGSmid=47788110GRid=106020716CRid=7885;

 Moss Landing
 Monterey County
 California, USA
 Plot: Block 1, Lot 121.
 On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:39:20 PM UTC-6, good...@aol.com wrote:

  Jim,

 Do you have other information (such as siblings' names) that could help
 ?
 I found a couple Antonio Brum and Catarina Rosa, but they were too old
 to
 have been Manuel's parents.
 Brum as a surname does appear on Pico, but could be part of a
 combination, e.g. Brum Rodrigues. Any chance of a second name for
 Antonio ?
 Also, women often show up with religious names, e.g. Maria Espirito
 Santo,
 rather than surnames. So, did Catarina use any other name(s) ?

 Sorry, I wasn't able to find your couple right away. Maybe someone else
 on the list can help. Or, maybe the village in question hasn't come
 online
 yet.

 Gayle



 On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, James Albertson biggert...@msn.com wrote:

  I'm trying to find information on my 3rd GGrandfather. Manuel Brune
 b1839 d1907. He arrived in the U.S. in 1865, Married Lugarda Espinosa
 in
 1868. His parents were Antonio Brune and Catharine Silveria of Pico.
 I've been unable to find his place of arrival or naturalization
 records.
 In the 1900 census he is listed as naturalized.
 I know he is from Pico Island, but I need this information to (maybe)
 find the village he's from.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Jim
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[James Albertson]

I'm trying to find information on my 3rd GGrandfather. Manuel Brune b1839 
d1907. He arrived in the U.S. in 1865, Married Lugarda Espinosa in 1868. 
His parents were Antonio Brune and Catharine Silveria of Pico.
 I've been unable to find his place of arrival or naturalization records. 
In the 1900 census he is listed as naturalized. 
I know he is from Pico Island, but I need this information to (maybe) find 
the village he's from.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[Cheri Mello]

Try searching under Brum in the immigration records.
Catherine is Catarina in Portuguese
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[Gayle Machado]

Jim,

Do you have other information (such as siblings' names) that could help ? I 
found a couple Antonio Brum and Catarina Rosa, but they were too old to have 
been Manuel's parents. 
Brum as a surname does appear on Pico, but could be part of a combination, e.g. 
Brum Rodrigues. Any chance of a second name for Antonio ? Also, women often 
show up with religious names, e.g. Maria Espirito Santo, rather than surnames. 
So, did Catarina use any other name(s) ?

Sorry, I wasn't able to find your couple right away. Maybe someone else on the 
list can help. Or, maybe the village in question hasn't come online yet. 

Gayle



On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, James Albertson biggerthanyo...@msn.com wrote:

 I'm trying to find information on my 3rd GGrandfather. Manuel Brune b1839 
 d1907. He arrived in the U.S. in 1865, Married Lugarda Espinosa in 1868. His 
 parents were Antonio Brune and Catharine Silveria of Pico.
  I've been unable to find his place of arrival or naturalization records. In 
 the 1900 census he is listed as naturalized. 
 I know he is from Pico Island, but I need this information to (maybe) find 
 the village he's from.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Jim
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[James Albertson]

I don't have any of that information. I've even searched people in the 
first census I could find him in thinking they might have arrived together 
with no luck. A man in Santa Cruz, Ca. sent me pictures of the family 
burial plot in Castroville Ca.Cemetery just three days ago and I was 
pleased as punch to see something of the man I've been trying to find for 
the last two years. If it weren't for census records I would think he just 
fell out of the sky. The following is from my findagrave. What is on the 
headstone about his parents is all I know about them.
Birth: Apr. 4, 1839
Azores Region, PortugalDeath: Jan. 4, 1907
Moss Landing
Monterey County
California, USA [Edit 
Dates]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=birthAndDeatheditThisIntId=106020716
Native of Pico, Azores Islands. Son of Antonio and Catharine (Silveria) 
Brune. 
[Edit 
Bio]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=bioeditThisIntId=106020716
 
Family links: 
[Edit]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editRelationshipsERid=106020716
 
 Spouse:
  Lugarda *Espinosa* Brune (1849 - 
1925)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106021110
*
 
 Children:
  Manuel Thomas Brune (1868 - 
1953)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106022259
*
  Gertrude M Brune (1877 - 
1969)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106022120
*
  James F Brune (1879 - 
1940)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106022009
*
  John P Brune (1881 - 
1945)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106021865
*
  Alfonso Brune (1893 - 
1925)http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=106021345
*
 
*Calculated relationship
 
[Add Marker 
Transcription]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=markerTranscriptioneditThisIntId=106020716
 
[Add 
Note]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=editoreditThis=PublicNoteeditThisIntId=106020716
 Burial: 
[Edit]http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=ebioldIntId=106020716
Castroville Public 
Cemeteryhttp://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=crGSmid=47788110GRid=106020716CRid=7885;
 
Moss Landing
Monterey County
California, USA
Plot: Block 1, Lot 121.
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:39:20 PM UTC-6, good...@aol.com wrote:

 Jim,

 Do you have other information (such as siblings' names) that could help ? 
 I found a couple Antonio Brum and Catarina Rosa, but they were too old to 
 have been Manuel's parents. 
 Brum as a surname does appear on Pico, but could be part of a combination, 
 e.g. Brum Rodrigues. Any chance of a second name for Antonio ? Also, women 
 often show up with religious names, e.g. Maria Espirito Santo, rather than 
 surnames. So, did Catarina use any other name(s) ?

 Sorry, I wasn't able to find your couple right away. Maybe someone else on 
 the list can help. Or, maybe the village in question hasn't come online 
 yet. 

 Gayle



 On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, James Albertson biggert...@msn.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 I'm trying to find information on my 3rd GGrandfather. Manuel Brune b1839 
 d1907. He arrived in the U.S. in 1865, Married Lugarda Espinosa in 1868. 
 His parents were Antonio Brune and Catharine Silveria of Pico.
  I've been unable to find his place of arrival or naturalization records. 
 In the 1900 census he is listed as naturalized. 
 I know he is from Pico Island, but I need this information to (maybe) find 
 the village he's from.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Jim

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[Mary Bordi]

I see he died at Moss Landing. Is it possible he arrived as a whaler? There 
might be mention of his name in some of the whaling histories of the area if he 
was. 

Just a thought. 

Mary




On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:56 PM, James Albertson biggerthanyo...@msn.com wrote:

 I don't have any of that information. I've even searched people in the first 
 census I could find him in thinking they might have arrived together with no 
 luck. A man in Santa Cruz, Ca. sent me pictures of the family burial plot in 
 Castroville Ca.Cemetery just three days ago and I was pleased as punch to see 
 something of the man I've been trying to find for the last two years. If it 
 weren't for census records I would think he just fell out of the sky. The 
 following is from my findagrave. What is on the headstone about his parents 
 is all I know about them.
 Birth:Apr. 4, 1839
 Azores Region, Portugal
 Death:Jan. 4, 1907
 Moss Landing
 Monterey County
 California, USA [Edit Dates]
 
 Native of Pico, Azores Islands. Son of Antonio and Catharine (Silveria) 
 Brune. 
 [Edit Bio] 
 Family links: [Edit] 
  Spouse:
   Lugarda Espinosa Brune (1849 - 1925)*
  
  Children:
   Manuel Thomas Brune (1868 - 1953)*
   Gertrude M Brune (1877 - 1969)*
   James F Brune (1879 - 1940)*
   John P Brune (1881 - 1945)*
   Alfonso Brune (1893 - 1925)*
  
 *Calculated relationship
  
 [Add Marker Transcription] 
 [Add Note]
  
 Burial: [Edit]
 Castroville Public Cemetery 
 Moss Landing
 Monterey County
 California, USA
 Plot: Block 1, Lot 121.
 
 On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:39:20 PM UTC-6, good...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Jim,
 
 Do you have other information (such as siblings' names) that could help ? I 
 found a couple Antonio Brum and Catarina Rosa, but they were too old to have 
 been Manuel's parents. 
 Brum as a surname does appear on Pico, but could be part of a combination, 
 e.g. Brum Rodrigues. Any chance of a second name for Antonio ? Also, women 
 often show up with religious names, e.g. Maria Espirito Santo, rather than 
 surnames. So, did Catarina use any other name(s) ?
 
 Sorry, I wasn't able to find your couple right away. Maybe someone else on 
 the list can help. Or, maybe the village in question hasn't come online yet. 
 
 Gayle
 
 
 
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, James Albertson biggert...@msn.com wrote:
 
 I'm trying to find information on my 3rd GGrandfather. Manuel Brune b1839 
 d1907. He arrived in the U.S. in 1865, Married Lugarda Espinosa in 1868. 
 His parents were Antonio Brune and Catharine Silveria of Pico.
  I've been unable to find his place of arrival or naturalization records. 
 In the 1900 census he is listed as naturalized. 
 I know he is from Pico Island, but I need this information to (maybe) find 
 the village he's from.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Jim
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

[rcapodc]

James also check the UPEC Fraternal Society records for any more info about 
where in Pico he came from. I have those records at my local Family History 
Center (FHC) but I won’t be going back there until next Tuesday. When I do I 
will check out the ledger book for him. Where to you live, James? If you are 
anywhere close to Monterey CA you can come to the FHC any Tuesday when I will 
be working 4—9pm. 

Rosemarie 
From: James Albertson 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:56 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Ancestor, Manuel Brune b1839 d1907

I don't have any of that information. I've even searched people in the first 
census I could find him in thinking they might have arrived together with no 
luck. A man in Santa Cruz, Ca. sent me pictures of the family burial plot in 
Castroville Ca.Cemetery just three days ago and I was pleased as punch to see 
something of the man I've been trying to find for the last two years. If it 
weren't for census records I would think he just fell out of the sky. The 
following is from my findagrave. What is on the headstone about his parents is 
all I know about them. 
  Birth:  Apr. 4, 1839
  Azores Region, Portugal 
  Death:  Jan. 4, 1907
  Moss Landing
  Monterey County
  California, USA [Edit Dates] 

  Native of Pico, Azores Islands. Son of Antonio and Catharine (Silveria) 
Brune. 
  [Edit Bio] 
  Family links: [Edit] 
  Spouse:
Lugarda Espinosa Brune (1849 - 1925)*
   
  Children:
Manuel Thomas Brune (1868 - 1953)*
Gertrude M Brune (1877 - 1969)*
James F Brune (1879 - 1940)*
John P Brune (1881 - 1945)*
Alfonso Brune (1893 - 1925)*
   
  *Calculated relationship
   
  [Add Marker Transcription] 
  [Add Note] 

  Burial: [Edit]
  Castroville Public Cemetery 
  Moss Landing
  Monterey County
  California, USA
  Plot: Block 1, Lot 121. 

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:39:20 PM UTC-6, good...@aol.com wrote: 
  Jim,

  Do you have other information (such as siblings' names) that could help ? I 
found a couple Antonio Brum and Catarina Rosa, but they were too old to have 
been Manuel's parents. 
  Brum as a surname does appear on Pico, but could be part of a combination, 
e.g. Brum Rodrigues. Any chance of a second name for Antonio ? Also, women 
often show up with religious names, e.g. Maria Espirito Santo, rather than 
surnames. So, did Catarina use any other name(s) ?

  Sorry, I wasn't able to find your couple right away. Maybe someone else on 
the list can help. Or, maybe the village in question hasn't come online yet. 

  Gayle




  On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, James Albertson biggert...@msn.com wrote:


I'm trying to find information on my 3rd GGrandfather. Manuel Brune b1839 
d1907. He arrived in the U.S. in 1865, Married Lugarda Espinosa in 1868. His 
parents were Antonio Brune and Catharine Silveria of Pico. 
I've been unable to find his place of arrival or naturalization records. In 
the 1900 census he is listed as naturalized. 
I know he is from Pico Island, but I need this information to (maybe) find 
the village he's from.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim
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