Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Kris Sisk ks...@gckschools.com wrote: $300 cheap for any software? What kind of Kool Aid have you been drinking? Since folks have repeatedly referred to Dreamweaver as $300 let me correct them and point out DW is $399. Let me also remind folks that people seemed perfectly happy to pay $499 for ColdFusion Studio back in the day. So here's a CFML editor that does a helluva lot more than ColdFusion Studio and is much more code-centric than Dreamweaver (the biggest complaints I hear from CFers about DW) and now people are complaining that this much more powerful CFML editor is too expensive when it costs less than both the apparently beloved ColdFusion Studio and Dreamweaver (which had HomeSite+ - the re-badged CFS product - bundled with it for a while)?? Might I ask, WTF are you people smoking? :) The issue is that we're already shelling out at least $1200 to Adobe for a product that has free products as its chief competition. It would have been wise, given that price tag versus the price tag of PHP (or even Railo) to give us a free, or at least inexpensive, IDE. Hey, I'm the CEO of Railo Technologies, Inc. - the US consulting arm of Railo - and I ponied up $299 of my own personal money on Monday night at 8:56p PST to buy ColdFusion Builder to use as my editor of choice for all my CFML projects (both Railo-based and otherwise). Why? Because I think ColdFusion Builder is the best CFML IDE available! Yeah, I'd hoped it would be $199 but when I saw it included Flash Builder 4 - which I may well use from time to time - I figured it was a true bargain and was only too happy to cough up my own dollars for something that will make me a more productive developer. I can't believe the complaining I've seen over the last 24 hours about $299... sheesh, folks probably could have earned $299 in the time spent complaining about it... and this from folks who happily spent nearly twice that on ColdFusion Studio... I just don't get it. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332159 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: People seem to keep coming back to, Adobe needs to take care of us to grow the community. I don't get that. If they take care of us they keep the community content, but it doesn't grow. We're still going to push CF to clients and employers. And these clients in return purchase ColdFusion. We are their Marketing in this department. It's in Adobe's best interest to allow ColdFusion Developers access to tools that assist with development on their platform, because it actually costs money to install on the server. ColdFusion Builder just showed up as a free download for registered users in the development partner program. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332160 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I am smoking a tailored made if you must know. But let's put this into perspective for a minute. What have Adobe done, they have enhanced the RDS a bit more to talk to the new features of ColdFusion 9 and provide a editor with colouring and have included a way to hook some basic extension functionality to the editor/IDE. That's the crunch of it, that isn't a great deal of work. The rest of the power is actually coming from Eclipse and Aptana, which Adobe didn't write. Now if Adobe had written Eclipse and provided all this then maybe I would consider it worthy of a $299.00 (USD) price tag. So far the ones you have compared it too, DW and Studio (Studio was actually given away free BTW with ColdFusion as well) and if you want to do a fair comparison of work then compare the entire amount of work gone into the entire Application/s. Not everybody will need or use the RDS features, maybe over time who knows. But from a personal level, I would be happy to move back to cfeclipse inside a 64bit Eclipse, running Mylyn and Subversive as they give me the same productivy. I would miss the line debugger, but as it has no real different functionality or bug fixes in comparison to the ColdFusion 8 Eclipse plugin I would be happy to continue to use that. Having said all that on a comparison I fail to see where it is given tru value for money, when there are better, faster free alternatives? -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 6:38 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! Since folks have repeatedly referred to Dreamweaver as $300 let me correct them and point out DW is $399. Let me also remind folks that people seemed perfectly happy to pay $499 for ColdFusion Studio back in the day. So here's a CFML editor that does a helluva lot more than ColdFusion Studio and is much more code-centric than Dreamweaver (the biggest complaints I hear from CFers about DW) and now people are complaining that this much more powerful CFML editor is too expensive when it costs less than both the apparently beloved ColdFusion Studio and Dreamweaver (which had HomeSite+ - the re-badged CFS product - bundled with it for a while)?? Might I ask, WTF are you people smoking? :) ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332161 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010, Andrew Scott wrote: Having said all that on a comparison I fail to see where it is given tru value for money, when there are better, faster free alternatives ? Snap. Compare what it does to a 'proper' IDE like what JetBrains have for Java, and you see it's *much* closer to CFEclipse than anything else. Maybe version 2 :-) -- Helping to synergistically market functionalities as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332162 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Features (Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
On Tuesday 23 Mar 2010, b...@bradwood.com wrote: As a ColdBox user, that would be really really nice for the IDE to be aware of how the autowiring is going to work at run time. I never realized how useful it was for your IDE to know about the variables and objects in your code until I did some work in Java/Eclipse and marveled at the usefulness of simply clicking a class and being taken to the corresponding .java file etc. Exactly - it's this sort of (static) analysis that makes or breaks an IDE, and CFB has none of it except some clumsy 'variable mappings' which a lot of the time it 'should' be able to figure for itself. -- Helping to authoritatively incentivize mission-critical e-business as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Wil, I copy your sentiment on what you say, I have made it no secret on my blogs that the best feature and the most under used feature as far as productivity goes is the debugger. Back in the days of the pre-release of ColdFusion 8, I personally reported 5 issues that hindered that product when one uses it. But there are more than you can count, when it comes to bugs just for the debugger alone. What are they? There are too many to list, but the important ones are 1) The line debugger refuses to fire. 2) break points are sometimes reported as not reachable when they are. 3) It will run code to a certain point in a function/method and then just run the rest of that code. 4) It get slower and slower to run each and every time you run it. These 4 bugs have been listed with Adobe for nearly 5 years, so the question in my eyes is this. Why would I go out and spend money on a product that has known issues that have been reported not once but numerous times in the last 5 years? The editor is too damn slow, and copying lines of code across regularly will see you eventually have a Garbage Collection exception thrown. This too was reported over 8 months ago, and hasn't been fixed and that gives me about 5-10 minutes use before it crashes. As for the screen shifting either up/down/left/right when indenting that was reported over 12 months ago. Look to sum it up as it is a 1.0 initial release one can expect to have some problems, but not to the extent that ColdFusion Builder has. If I am not paying for the product I can certainly put up with the problems, but if I am forking my own hard earned money over for the product, I will not be paying $299.00 (USD) for every release either. -Original Message- From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 3:43 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! Adam, This is the point I've been trying to make to Adobe all along. ColdFusion server is Enterprise level middle-ware. We run our service, Mlsfinder.com, across four physical ColdFusion Enterprise servers. We see 2.5 to 3 million page views per day. (I know, small compared to FaceBook but still huge.) We service MLS markets across the country and to do that requires lots and lots of code. This is a 10 year old application that is not as efficient as it should be, but this is the real world. Giant apps like this are never ideal lab cases, however they are great cases for testing and over stressing an IDE. Which is does. The argument you've been making to me is that the bugs I mentioned were newly reported bugs that were reported after the RC release or that performance issues are due to third parties. The editor bug of the screen shifting left and right when editing longs lines was first reported five months ago. Some of the other bugs are newly reported bugs. You also said third parties like plug-ins or bugs in Aptana were the cause. Well, I would suspect at this point Adobe has a good working relationship with Aptana and if Adobe found a bug one or both of two things could/should happen. Either Aptana hurries up and fixes it OR Adobe contributes the fix to Aptana. So to blame Aptana seems a little unfair. So that leaves the Subversive plug-in for my SVN access. ColdFusion Builder is an IDE so yes, I want SVN access Integrated. I've worked with Subclipse and Subversive and the results between the two are the same. Both make CFBuilder dead slow on large SVN repositories. Even Aptana and Eclipse/CFEclipse get slowed down. However, they are not nearly as bogged down as CFBuilder. In addition CFBuilder always ends up throwing errors part way through the process. An update of my code will take 10 to 20 minutes with CFBuilder on a good day. So yesterday I installed Aptana and CFEclipse and Subversive. Imagine my surprise when found NONE of the issues I had in ColdFusion Builder. Plus updating the code base from SVN only took 5.5 minutes. So what am I left thinking? I'm thinking there are bugs in ColdFusion Builder that need to be resolved before I will buy it for myself and before I can give my recommendation at work that we buy this for our development team. Adam, you know me, we've talked in person and you've visited the company I work at, WolfNet Technologies. Help me out here, I really want to buy this product and openly support it in the ColdFusion Community. So to answer your question of what would make a $299 IDE worth it? My answer is fix what you have. Then I will recommend it to our development team and company. Then lets build version 2.0! Thank You, Wil Genovese ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe:
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
You mean IntelliJ yes? -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:tom.chiver...@halliwells.com] Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 8:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010, Andrew Scott wrote: Having said all that on a comparison I fail to see where it is given tru value for money, when there are better, faster free alternatives ? Snap. Compare what it does to a 'proper' IDE like what JetBrains have for Java, and you see it's *much* closer to CFEclipse than anything else. Maybe version 2 :-) -- Helping to synergistically market functionalities as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332165 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: it's not as lovingly hand-crafted as Dreamweaver Not my comment and not what I meant...there's a difference between original software (as original as things can get these days) and a copy. Hold it...I'm not saying Adobe copied Eclipse or CFEclipse. I'm just saying that it has benefited from the work done for Eclipse and CFEclipse, unlike Dreamweaver which was more of an original work. So, using this argument, each successive version of DreamWeaver should cost less. Only DW1 (back a long time ago) should cost $300. All of the other versions just built upon that, so they were no longer original. I figure by this point, DW should be free. :) Scott -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.ne ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332166 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: And these clients in return purchase ColdFusion. We are their Marketing in this department. It's in Adobe's best interest to allow ColdFusion Developers access to tools that assist with development on their platform, because it actually costs money to install on the server. For a developer, it still costs you $0 to be a CF developer (not counting a computer system to develop on): web server: free (Apache) database: free (mySQL) CF Server: free (developer edition) IDE: free (CF Eclipse) The only time it costs you is when you deploy to production (the CF license for that server or web hosting). If you want, the rest can remain free. Now, if you want something different (SQL Server or CF Builder), it will cost more. But, that's your choice. If you don't think the extra features in CF Builder are worth it [I don't at this point] then don't buy it. Look at Flex, Flash, ActionScript These platforms or whatever are available on X amount of computers around the world, at no additional cost to the client or the developer. Flash and ActionScript certainly do have an additional cost to the developer. You need the Flash product itself to develop in them. Flex is only free if you want to use the command-line compiler. As above, you start paying more if you want more bells and whistles (Flash Builder). Look at how Macromedia did it... ColdFusion Report Builder is FREE! Totally separate product that can be used in conjunction with one of products you have to pay to install on a device... ColdFusion From what I heard of Report Builder ( at least in CF7 ) they still charged too much. :) Every ColdFusion license should come with 1 Builder License. I don't see how that helps spreading the use of CF. I think most people who are trying to learn CF are going to use the Developer version of the server, which, presumably, wouldn't come with the Builder License. Even companies that want to try CF probably aren't going to buy a license right away (at least, I'd have my employees try the Developer edition first), so it doesn't help them. What it would seem to help are the people who are already using CF -- especially companies who are buying their own servers. They don't need to do that with their other languages, it's a given so the fact that you need to purchase a development tool there is a given. ColdFusion, not so much so. And you don't need to for ColdFusion. You CAN, but you don't need to. A number of us will shell out the $300 for CFBuilder -and- FlashBuilder. A number of us will continue to use CFEclipse or TextMate or Coda or BBEdit or... That's misleading. It's $600 ish as you need to purchase FlashBuilder Premium, I don't have Flex Builder currently. If you pay $300 for CF Builder, FlashBuilder comes with it. You don't need to pay $600 if you don't want the other features of FlashBuilder premium (unit testing, command-line building, etc.) Scott. -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332167 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Kris Sisk ks...@gckschools.com wrote: $300 cheap for any software? What kind of Kool Aid have you been drinking? Since folks have repeatedly referred to Dreamweaver as $300 let me correct them and point out DW is $399. Let me also remind folks that people seemed perfectly happy to pay $499 for ColdFusion Studio back in the day. So here's a CFML editor that does a helluva lot more than ColdFusion Studio and is much more code-centric than Dreamweaver (the biggest complaints I hear from CFers about DW) and now people are complaining that this much more powerful CFML editor is too expensive when it costs less than both the apparently beloved ColdFusion Studio and Dreamweaver (which had HomeSite+ - the re-badged CFS product - bundled with it for a while)?? Might I ask, WTF are you people smoking? :) The issue is that we're already shelling out at least $1200 to Adobe for a product that has free products as its chief competition. It would have been wise, given that price tag versus the price tag of PHP (or even Railo) to give us a free, or at least inexpensive, IDE. Hey, I'm the CEO of Railo Technologies, Inc. - the US consulting arm of Railo - and I ponied up $299 of my own personal money on Monday night at 8:56p PST to buy ColdFusion Builder to use as my editor of choice for all my CFML projects (both Railo-based and otherwise). Why? Because I think ColdFusion Builder is the best CFML IDE available! Yeah, I'd hoped it would be $199 but when I saw it included Flash Builder 4 - which I may well use from time to time - I figured it was a true bargain and was only too happy to cough up my own dollars for something that will make me a more productive developer. I can't believe the complaining I've seen over the last 24 hours about $299... sheesh, folks probably could have earned $299 in the time spent complaining about it... and this from folks who happily spent nearly twice that on ColdFusion Studio... I just don't get it. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
So, using this argument, each successive version of DreamWeaver should cost less. No. DW was an *original* work (as far as I know from way back when without researching the issue) from interface to functionality. Therefore, Adobe, or whoever should own the work in the future, should benefit from all the work done from the beginning. I'm just saying that DW and CFB are two different products, in that DW was constructed as an original product and CFB was basically an add-on to other existing products. And to charge the same for both (even though DW was $399 and no the $299 I've been stating) doesn't seem quite appropriate. Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Brady [mailto:dsbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:13 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: it's not as lovingly hand-crafted as Dreamweaver Not my comment and not what I meant...there's a difference between original software (as original as things can get these days) and a copy. Hold it...I'm not saying Adobe copied Eclipse or CFEclipse. I'm just saying that it has benefited from the work done for Eclipse and CFEclipse, unlike Dreamweaver which was more of an original work. So, using this argument, each successive version of DreamWeaver should cost less. Only DW1 (back a long time ago) should cost $300. All of the other versions just built upon that, so they were no longer original. I figure by this point, DW should be free. :) Scott -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.ne ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332170 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Budget...what is that? -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:46 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332171 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, That is for Flash builder. Not CF Builder... unless you know something we don't. EL On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/ On 24 March 2010 14:01, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, That is for Flash builder. Not CF Builder... unless you know something we don't. EL On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332173 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I am not seeing anything about being unemployed. Just students and staff. Perhaps I am missing something. EL On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Andy Allan andy.al...@gmail.com wrote: https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/ On 24 March 2010 14:01, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, That is for Flash builder. Not CF Builder... unless you know something we don't. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332174 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: FedEx Services to Print Label
Did you have to design your own label layout and then get the layout certified by FedEx before putting into production? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332175 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I don't even think I have 8 X-Box games (for the 360 I got about 3 years ago)...I am a gamefly member...so I don't own many games ;-). I think I pretty much have the 3 that came with it when I bought it plus a couple of other games I bought used over the years. While I am no longer unemployed (Yay!!! I was out of work for 8 months), I am also the sole provider for my family for the most part and currently support my adult step daughter and her daughter as well as my family. Too many people make the assumption that $300 is a trivial amount. While I am glad that many of you are much more prosperous than I am, please don't assume that it is a trivial amount for anyone else except yourself. I don't have the pleasure of being able to budget. I get paid and it all goes to bills, food, and meds. Eric On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332176 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Too many people make the assumption that $300 is a trivial amount. While I am glad that many of you are much more prosperous than I am, please don't assume that it is a trivial amount for anyone else except yourself. It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer, and it's at the low end of that range. Again, this brings me back to the appropriate measure of value for development tools - do they save you enough time to cover their cost? If buying CFB will make you a faster and better developer, it'll probably pay for itself in a week or two. If it doesn't, don't buy it! It's really as simple as that. And you have a free trial period in which to find out. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I was curious and check out the link below, Andy, but see nothing about employment status... ??? Rick -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:06 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/ On 24 March 2010 14:01, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, That is for Flash builder. Not CF Builder... unless you know something we don't. EL On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332178 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer, and it's at the low end of that range. Again, this brings me back to the appropriate measure of value for development tools - do they save you enough time to cover their cost? If buying CFB will make you a faster and better developer, it'll probably pay for itself in a week or two. If it doesn't, don't buy it! It's really as simple as that. And you have a free trial period in which to find out. Thanks Dave - I just want to mega ditto the point of 'expected' cost here. I think that is a great way to put it. I mean shoot, you have to buy a computer too, and while you can probably find a 300 dollar computer, I'm not sure I'd want to work on it. Our field has costs, just like any other field. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332179 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
That's how I view the issue. We run Oracle, connected to 8 licences worth of CF Enterprise. To develop for Oracle we use TOAD, the cost of which is much higher than CFB. Don't even ask what it costs us to site licence Adobe CS4 Web Premium. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 24 March 2010 22:37, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer, and it's at the low end of that range. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332180 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
ColdFusion CAR backup warning, could not find jvm.config
What is the ramification of this warning in my desire to backup ColdFusion 8 settings, uninstall it, install a clean version of CF9 and restore my backup of all my settings. I know why it could not find jvm.config, I don't have that file anymore. On my multi-home configuration of CF8 I have each our four cf instances running under a different jvm files. I.E. jvm.general-config, jvm.cfusion-config, etc. Do I need to do something to insure that the appropriate jvm config file is incorporated into my new CF9 instances? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Sorry I thought it did cover unemployment too ... guess not. I'm going to speak to Adobe about it. On 24 March 2010 15:03, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I was curious and check out the link below, Andy, but see nothing about employment status... ??? Rick -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:06 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/ On 24 March 2010 14:01, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, That is for Flash builder. Not CF Builder... unless you know something we don't. EL On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332182 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
That's one of the big issues I have with oracle. You shouldn't have to buy a 3rd party product to effectively manage it. Even MS provides a free management tool for SQL Server. Eric -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:09 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! That's how I view the issue. We run Oracle, connected to 8 licences worth of CF Enterprise. To develop for Oracle we use TOAD, the cost of which is much higher than CFB. Don't even ask what it costs us to site licence Adobe CS4 Web Premium. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 24 March 2010 22:37, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer, and it's at the low end of that range. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Convert string to Query Object?
I CFquery, it's cached, and pass the query name to another file as a string. I can CFoutput the cached query using the string but can't use it for a recordcount because it's a type mismatch. How do I convert that query name-string back to a query name-queryobject so I can get that recordcount. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332184 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Convert string to Query Object?
I think this is related: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61040 ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: FedEx Services to Print Label
It kind of depends on the route you take. Route 1: Loftware comes with pre-designed labels, but you may need to still get them certified. This will be your simplest route to take. Route 2: If you build your own then you will most definitely need to get them certified. If you plan on going this route then contact your FedEx rep so they can get a hold of someone who can give you directions on how to lay it out. Getting them certified is pretty strait forward. Most of the time they have you send in digital copies at first then you mail them a batch of labels for them to visually check. This is to ensure everything is placed in their proper spot, etc for scanning purposes. -Pat On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Shane Trahan sha...@nc.rr.com wrote: Did you have to design your own label layout and then get the layout certified by FedEx before putting into production? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I have TOAD but do not use is. SQL Plus, Oracle SQL Developer, or OEM are enough to effectively manage Oracle. I know the first two are free. I believe the third is as well. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: That's one of the big issues I have with oracle. You shouldn't have to buy a 3rd party product to effectively manage it. Even MS provides a free management tool for SQL Server. Eric -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:09 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! That's how I view the issue. We run Oracle, connected to 8 licences worth of CF Enterprise. To develop for Oracle we use TOAD, the cost of which is much higher than CFB. Don't even ask what it costs us to site licence Adobe CS4 Web Premium. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 24 March 2010 22:37, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer, and it's at the low end of that range. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
(ot) Convert SQL Server 2005 to Oracle 10g
Hey All, I'm hoping to find a tool to easily convert MS SQL Server DB (triggers/tables/views/functions/stored procs) to Oracle 10g. Any thoughts? I tried the wizard in Oracle SQL Developer (quick migration), but even though the DBAs gave me the permissions it needs, it kept failing (something about the repository is not performing well). TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I agree wholeheartedly with Dave. In the scheme of software development as an industry, $300 is trivial. Look up the price for Rational Rose, TOAD or ERWin; they are in the hundreds to thousands. Look at the price of ColdFusion itself, which we often have to convince clients that it is worth purchasing for their businesses. The whole point is, if it is interesting to you, use the trial version. if it is worth it to you, buy it. If it is not, then don't. For me: INTERESTING: Has features worth noting, worth evaluating, may provide significant benefit to me in my workflow. WORTH IT: Worth investing the money in the tool because it meets my personal development needs and enhances my workflow. The cost of the tool is recovered by efficiency that I gain. Arguing that the cost is too high, or that it could have been a better vehicle to attract more developers to CF is moot. There are alternatives to CFBuilder, some of which are actually free to use. It all boils down to what you perceive as being worth it. I will download it, I will try it, and compare it to CFEclipse and Homesite, which are the two tools I currently use (for reasons of client and vpn considerations). I won't begrudge the price if it is worth it to me. OS licencing costs more than CFBuilder does. Allen Souliere On 24-Mar-10, at 7:37 AM, Dave Watts wrote: Too many people make the assumption that $300 is a trivial amount. While I am glad that many of you are much more prosperous than I am, please don't assume that it is a trivial amount for anyone else except yourself. It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer, and it's at the low end of that range. Again, this brings me back to the appropriate measure of value for development tools - do they save you enough time to cover their cost? If buying CFB will make you a faster and better developer, it'll probably pay for itself in a week or two. If it doesn't, don't buy it! It's really as simple as that. And you have a free trial period in which to find out. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
ColdFusion 8 ODBC Server Errors
I am running CF 8 Enterprise server on IIS 6 (Windows 2003). Recently I have started getting these event logs entries: * Event Type: Error Event Source: ColdFusion 8 ODBC Server Event Category: None Event ID: 0 Date: 3/24/2010 Time: 6:45:30 AM User: N/A Computer: xxx Description: The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ColdFusion 8 ODBC Server ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: ColdFusion 8 ODBC ser...@localhost,ErrorCode=2310,ErrorMessage=TCP/IP, connection reset by peer. * I also found that JRUN starts using 50% + CPU and finally ColdFusion server stops working. Does anybody has any ideas how to fix it? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Dave Watts wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer If you are a software developer and ColdFusion is your bread and butter, it lies well within the expectations to be an Adobe partner and get all this stuff for free. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Last time I looked into the partner program, which was admittedly years ago, the cost was exorbitant and very exclusive. Glancing over the partner page now, it seems to be much better, though the criteria for selection seems a bit vague: Bronze partners must meet the basic level of qualification criteria, based on your company strengths in the areas of revenue, skills and competencies, or strategic leadership. Still, something that I'd consider looking into again. https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/partnerportal/index.cfm?event=aboutPartnershipsloc=en_usshowmytab=tab_solutionpartners On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Jochem van Dieten joch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Dave Watts wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer If you are a software developer and ColdFusion is your bread and butter, it lies well within the expectations to be an Adobe partner and get all this stuff for free. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
FWIW, please note that you must be silver or gold for desktop software licenses (only relevant because of Jachem's comments about free software), which are considerably more expensive than the bronze. It still seems like a great deal if you have multiple developers, especially with the other benefits rolled in...support tickets, marketing opportunities...et cetera -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! Last time I looked into the partner program, which was admittedly years ago, the cost was exorbitant and very exclusive. Glancing over the partner page now, it seems to be much better, though the criteria for selection seems a bit vague: Bronze partners must meet the basic level of qualification criteria, based on your company strengths in the areas of revenue, skills and competencies, or strategic leadership. Still, something that I'd consider looking into again. https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/partnerportal/index.cfm?event=aboutPartnership sloc=en_usshowmytab=tab_solutionpartners On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Jochem van Dieten joch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Dave Watts wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer If you are a software developer and ColdFusion is your bread and butter, it lies well within the expectations to be an Adobe partner and get all this stuff for free. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Ray - Don't forget small business. ;) Some of us are 1 man shops who try to bring on extra manpower on a project by project basis. And while we would like to try Flashbuilder or CFBuilder - $300 can be a bit of tough justification. (What should the software budget for a one man operation really be?) In related thoughts - 30 day trials don't cut it for me either... They are nice - but I will admit to being too busy to fully try something out in 30 days. (Too much actual work) So that really doesn't help me try the software out... as I never have 30 continuous days to play with something. (60-90 would be ideal) I am not saying it's too much - or that you shouldn't have to pay to play - - but I know I would have purchased FlexBuilder if it were cheaper. For some reason - $300 seems to be my personal well - shoot - I better really think about this Especially after ponying up for the Adobe Master Collection - which upgrades every 18 months - which of course doesn't include this software... But I have already expressed my thoughts on that. I will add - I like the bundle deal -- certainly gets me back to thinking about purchasing it. But I do likes my dreamweaver... - Nick -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:46 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Differences between MySQLs?
When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
ColdFusion Builder is available for a 60 day trial. -Original Message- From: Eric Nicholas Sweeney [mailto:n...@bigfatdesigns.com] Sent: 24 March 2010 18:55 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released! Ray - Don't forget small business. ;) Some of us are 1 man shops who try to bring on extra manpower on a project by project basis. And while we would like to try Flashbuilder or CFBuilder - $300 can be a bit of tough justification. (What should the software budget for a one man operation really be?) In related thoughts - 30 day trials don't cut it for me either... They are nice - but I will admit to being too busy to fully try something out in 30 days. (Too much actual work) So that really doesn't help me try the software out... as I never have 30 continuous days to play with something. (60-90 would be ideal) I am not saying it's too much - or that you shouldn't have to pay to play - - but I know I would have purchased FlexBuilder if it were cheaper. For some reason - $300 seems to be my personal well - shoot - I better really think about this Especially after ponying up for the Adobe Master Collection - which upgrades every 18 months - which of course doesn't include this software... But I have already expressed my thoughts on that. I will add - I like the bundle deal -- certainly gets me back to thinking about purchasing it. But I do likes my dreamweaver... - Nick -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:46 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! 300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a) students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free, so problem solved. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
any caching on your query? - Gabriel On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
1) check the datasource in cf admin. 2) make sure the JDBC connectors are the same. In your case it doesn't seem like it will be the issue but I would eliminate it as a possibility. 3) check the application.dsn (or whatever you named it). Make sure it is correct by cfdumping it. W On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Differences between MySQLs?
Could be a case sensitivity issue. What's the OS of you, and of your host? On *nix systems table names are case sensitive. -Original Message- From: Phillip Vector [mailto:vec...@mostdeadlygame.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Differences between MySQLs? When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Oracle SQL Developer is a free package...though I thought it was a pretty primitive interface. It has been a few years since I have used it, so they may have improved it since I used it last. Eric -Original Message- From: Won Lee [mailto:won...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! I have TOAD but do not use is. SQL Plus, Oracle SQL Developer, or OEM are enough to effectively manage Oracle. I know the first two are free. I believe the third is as well. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: That's one of the big issues I have with oracle. You shouldn't have to buy a 3rd party product to effectively manage it. Even MS provides a free management tool for SQL Server. Eric -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:09 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! That's how I view the issue. We run Oracle, connected to 8 licences worth of CF Enterprise. To develop for Oracle we use TOAD, the cost of which is much higher than CFB. Don't even ask what it costs us to site licence Adobe CS4 Web Premium. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 24 March 2010 22:37, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: It's not so much that $300 is a trivial amount, but rather that it's well within the expected range of prices for the tools you buy as a software developer, and it's at the low end of that range. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
cftransaction and multiple databases
Hello, ran into this one today. I have a CFTransaction surrounding some queries that insert data. I am using a CFC function to get shipping total: cfprocparam dbvarname=@ShippingTotal value=#CartObj.GetCartShipping()# cfsqltype=cf_sql_numeric That function needs to query a different database then the other queries in the CFTransaction to help calculate shipping. I get this error: Datasource FOO verification failed. The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: Datasource names for all the database tags within the cftransaction tag must be the same. How can I get around this error? The function is just doing a select... there is nothing even to roll back even if the other queries fail. I have a feeling that I will not be able to do this and I will have to take a different approach, but wanted to ask you guys anyway. Thanks, Chad ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message âelement X undefined in formâ when using MSIE 6.0. (X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.) This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape. When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section âForm Namesâ does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through. The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values. When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences. This problem is not isolated to just one form either. It randomly occurs on numerous forms in various applications. was this resolved? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
Datasource is correct and the application datasource is correct. I have no way to confirm the JDBC connectors. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote: 1) check the datasource in cf admin. 2) make sure the JDBC connectors are the same. In your case it doesn't seem like it will be the issue but I would eliminate it as a possibility. 3) check the application.dsn (or whatever you named it). Make sure it is correct by cfdumping it. W On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
Both are windows, but I made sure anyway. Nope. That's not it. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.com wrote: Could be a case sensitivity issue. What's the OS of you, and of your host? On *nix systems table names are case sensitive. -Original Message- From: Phillip Vector [mailto:vec...@mostdeadlygame.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Differences between MySQLs? When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
I should point out that in every other area of the site, the DB works perfectly. The only think I can think of is that the code is looped around 3 cfloops (I know.. It's not a good way to program it, but it's what I was able to come up with). Can CF Admin set a limit on the number of loops within themselves? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.com wrote: Could be a case sensitivity issue. What's the OS of you, and of your host? On *nix systems table names are case sensitive. -Original Message- From: Phillip Vector [mailto:vec...@mostdeadlygame.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Differences between MySQLs? When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Eric Nicholas Sweeney wrote: Ray - Don't forget small business. ;) Some of us are 1 man shops who try to bring on extra manpower on a project by project basis. And while we would like to try Flashbuilder or CFBuilder - $300 can be a bit of tough justification. (What should the software budget for a one man operation really be?) A 1 man shop working with a known customer base could get by with zero commercial software. A 1 man shop who freelances from client to client needs about $4K initially and then $1K per year to keep it updated: - Flash Builder Pro (includes CF Builder) - Enterprise Architect; - CS4; - small tools ( $100) like Beyond Compare, WinZip etc; - MS Office I presume your Operating System will be bundled with your laptop. You could get by with a lot less if you are not in the business of arriving at an unknown client at 9 AM and delivering at 5 PM the same day. But, speaking as somebody who frequently hires people and gets hired to add extra manpower on a job, this is the minimum that you are expected to be compatible with. If you have a 1 day job somewhere you just can not afford the time to write custom buildfiles instead of using the FlexBuilder project files the client has for you. You can not afford to get the formatting messed up because OpenOffice is slightly different from MS Office. You can no afford to loose layer information in the Gimp when you don't have Photoshop. You can not afford to have to rewrite something because CFEclipse is not compatible with the extensions for CF Builder. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cftransaction and multiple databases
If the databases are on the same server, you can try accessing the other database from your main data source by specifying the full path to the table: SELECT * FROM databaseName.owner.tableName On SQL Server, owner is often dbo. Or you can use the shortcut databaseName..tableName ~Brad Original Message Subject: cftransaction and multiple databases From: Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com Date: Wed, March 24, 2010 3:05 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Hello, ran into this one today. I have a CFTransaction surrounding some queries that insert data. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cftransaction and multiple databases
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Chad Gray wrote: Datasource FOO verification failed. The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: Datasource names for all the database tags within the cftransaction tag must be the same. How can I get around this error? The function is just doing a select... there is nothing even to roll back even if the other queries fail. Run your select from a different thread using cfthread and join it back to the main thread. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
Geez I hope so, seeing as how that is from a post back in 2004. http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/msg172391.html Since a little water has gone under the bridge since that post why don't you start by telling us what your specific problem is. Thanks! ~Brad Original Message Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE From: Naomi Serrano nahom...@gmail.com Date: Wed, March 24, 2010 2:39 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message âelement X undefined in formâ when using MSIE 6.0. (X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.) This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape. When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section âForm Namesâ does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through. The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values. When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences. This problem is not isolated to just one form either. It randomly occurs on numerous forms in various applications. was this resolved? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cftransaction and multiple databases
I figured out a work around. I made a view of the table. So now all my tables inside of the CFTransaction are in the same database. Chad -Original Message- From: Chad Gray [mailto:cg...@careyweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: cftransaction and multiple databases Hello, ran into this one today. I have a CFTransaction surrounding some queries that insert data. I am using a CFC function to get shipping total: cfprocparam dbvarname=@ShippingTotal value=#CartObj.GetCartShipping()# cfsqltype=cf_sql_numeric That function needs to query a different database then the other queries in the CFTransaction to help calculate shipping. I get this error: Datasource FOO verification failed. The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: Datasource names for all the database tags within the cftransaction tag must be the same. How can I get around this error? The function is just doing a select... there is nothing even to roll back even if the other queries fail. I have a feeling that I will not be able to do this and I will have to take a different approach, but wanted to ask you guys anyway. Thanks, Chad ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332210 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
Any chance that the two databases are not identical? Perhaps the column type is not the same? I imagine MySQL has something similar to Oracle: there are VARCHAR and CHAR (fixed width) columns. A query that would work fine against a varchar column would likely fail against a char column because of the spaces padded at the end of the values in the column. Just a thought. Allen Phillip Vector wrote: Both are windows, but I made sure anyway. Nope. That's not it. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.com wrote: Could be a case sensitivity issue. What's the OS of you, and of your host? On *nix systems table names are case sensitive. -Original Message- From: Phillip Vector [mailto:vec...@mostdeadlygame.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Differences between MySQLs? When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
I'm really trying hard to remember...but I think the connector is part of the db string. Open up each datasource in cfadmin. It also might be installed to your JDK_Path/lib/ext. I might be off, both in pointing you towards the JDBC connector and how to check which version you have. I have no experience actually handling the connector. I just know that when my data sets started to yield unexpected data I would have the server admins check the connectors and often it was the cause. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Datasource is correct and the application datasource is correct. I have no way to confirm the JDBC connectors. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote: 1) check the datasource in cf admin. 2) make sure the JDBC connectors are the same. In your case it doesn't seem like it will be the issue but I would eliminate it as a possibility. 3) check the application.dsn (or whatever you named it). Make sure it is correct by cfdumping it. W On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
No records at all. But on the local server, yes. Verified both databases are exactly alike. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Dorioo dor...@gmail.com wrote: any caching on your query? - Gabriel On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Jochem - I wasn't being quite so deliberate in my question - but it's nice that you took the time and broke it down for everyone. I would point out that your list only accounts for updating existing software... Not buying anything new. ;) And I would probably bump your small tools up to 300-500 though... But yeah - A cool grand is a good, round, start. Probably closer to 1500-2000 every 18 months. Depending on how current you need/want to be. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
No. The live database table is exactly the same as the dev table (it was copied over directly). I'm just going to ask support and perhaps they will be able to help. Thanks anyway. :) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:54 PM, G Allen R Souliere al...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Any chance that the two databases are not identical? Perhaps the column type is not the same? I imagine MySQL has something similar to Oracle: there are VARCHAR and CHAR (fixed width) columns. A query that would work fine against a varchar column would likely fail against a char column because of the spaces padded at the end of the values in the column. Just a thought. Allen Phillip Vector wrote: Both are windows, but I made sure anyway. Nope. That's not it. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.com wrote: Could be a case sensitivity issue. What's the OS of you, and of your host? On *nix systems table names are case sensitive. -Original Message- From: Phillip Vector [mailto:vec...@mostdeadlygame.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Differences between MySQLs? When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332215 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
Well, I use a hosting company, so stuff like that is out of something I can do. :) I'll forward your suggestion along though. :) Thanks. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really trying hard to remember...but I think the connector is part of the db string. Open up each datasource in cfadmin. It also might be installed to your JDK_Path/lib/ext. I might be off, both in pointing you towards the JDBC connector and how to check which version you have. I have no experience actually handling the connector. I just know that when my data sets started to yield unexpected data I would have the server admins check the connectors and often it was the cause. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Datasource is correct and the application datasource is correct. I have no way to confirm the JDBC connectors. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote: 1) check the datasource in cf admin. 2) make sure the JDBC connectors are the same. In your case it doesn't seem like it will be the issue but I would eliminate it as a possibility. 3) check the application.dsn (or whatever you named it). Make sure it is correct by cfdumping it. W On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: When I run this on my server.. SELECT * FROM Accounting Where PromoCode = 'CNJ0009001' I get 6 results... This is a local Dev server I have set up. When i run it at my hosting company, I get 0 results for the same exact query. I go in and my external database program confirms the records are in there. The page works fine locally, but on the live site, it doesn't. Before I make a ticket, can anyone confirm perhaps a setting they heard of or some such that might be responsible or does anyone have any additional troubleshooting steps I may be missing? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
Are they the same versions of MySQL on both? Have you tried doing a LIKE instead of the =? Maybe throw a TRIM in there, just in case, or else do the LIKE up with, like, '%theFirstFewChars%' or some such? :den -- All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called Facts. They are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain. Thomas Hobbes ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
GIT Anyone?
Hi, I am completely new to this (eclipse and GIT - actually just trying to switch from homesite :-) so project etc are a new phenomenon to me.), in fact i am pretty new to source control in general i looked into using some (SVN) about 6 years ago but never actually got round to doing anything. I have been recommended by a few people that if i am starting from scratch then it would be a good idea to try and get my head around GIT as opposed to using SVN. Plus my research seems to point towards GIT being the Future. I have a general understanding of SVN in that a central repository is stored on a server somewhere, and everyone takes their code from there, but GIT is made up of lots of separate repositories 9not sure how they all link together) The more i think about this the more i don't understand how its is all meant to work. I have EGIT installed and have kinda gotten the hang of committing, adding to version control resource history on a local project stored on my machine. However i have my live sites on a remote server hosted (at Alurium) how should i go about getting the sites onto my local machine and using GIT? then syncing? Im at a complete loss Cheers in advance Ben ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:30 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: Are they the same versions of MySQL on both? Yup. Have you tried doing a LIKE instead of the =? Maybe throw a TRIM in there, just in case, or else do the LIKE up with, like, '%theFirstFewChars%' or some such? I haven't tried that, but considering it's this one page and I loop over a few queries, my final thought is that perhaps they have some flow control limiter that causes the DB not to return results in some situations. :den -- All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called Facts. They are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain. Thomas Hobbes ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Differences between MySQLs?
Another quick thought...does MySQL have row level security? Its possible that your second datasource has given you read access to the table, but not the rows in the database. This has caught me in Oracle before. Allen On 24-Mar-10, at 2:30 PM, denstar wrote: Are they the same versions of MySQL on both? Have you tried doing a LIKE instead of the =? Maybe throw a TRIM in there, just in case, or else do the LIKE up with, like, '%theFirstFewChars%' or some such? :den -- All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called Facts. They are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain. Thomas Hobbes ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332220 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I know there was a smiley on that but I do feel compelled to respond with a bit more personal background so folks have context... Last April I was let go from Broadchoice and essentially went freelance. Yes, I head up Railo in the US but it's actually an unpaid position as I build up the US consulting business - and so far I've delegated almost all the Railo consulting to a handful of trusted contractors. When I'm comfortable with the business operations, I'll pay myself a salary. We pay our contractors, we sponsor conferences, we do some marketing and we support core engineering to develop the server (funded by our European business). So having been let go, I'm on Cal-COBRA and my wife then breaks her ankle and is laid up for nearly two months and in a wheelchair for nearly another two months. I'm focused on looking after her - and doing very little consulting. We lived off our savings for a lot of 2009 and having to liquidate the assets necessary to do that meant we lost about $17,000 due to investments being down - on top of the nearly $65,000 we actually liquidated to cover mortgage, car loans, medical bills ($11,000) and so on. We were lucky we had savings so we didn't lose our home. All that said, my wife is a smart business woman and insisted I buy a (much needed) new computer at the end of 2009 and understands that software, books and conferences are important to my business. When I drop a few hundred bucks on a piece of software to improve my productivity, that's a reasonable business expense. With our personal loses in 2009, at least a tax refund is in our future! :) Sean On Wednesday, March 24, 2010, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Kris Sisk ks...@gckschools.com wrote: $300 cheap for any software? What kind of Kool Aid have you been drinking? Since folks have repeatedly referred to Dreamweaver as $300 let me correct them and point out DW is $399. Let me also remind folks that people seemed perfectly happy to pay $499 for ColdFusion Studio back in the day. So here's a CFML editor that does a helluva lot more than ColdFusion Studio and is much more code-centric than Dreamweaver (the biggest complaints I hear from CFers about DW) and now people are complaining that this much more powerful CFML editor is too expensive when it costs less than both the apparently beloved ColdFusion Studio and Dreamweaver (which had HomeSite+ - the re-badged CFS product - bundled with it for a while)?? Might I ask, WTF are you people smoking? :) The issue is that we're already shelling out at least $1200 to Adobe for a product that has free products as its chief competition. It would have been wise, given that price tag versus the price tag of PHP (or even Railo) to give us a free, or at least inexpensive, IDE. Hey, I'm the CEO of Railo Technologies, Inc. - the US consulting arm of Railo - and I ponied up $299 of my own personal money on Monday night at 8:56p PST to buy ColdFusion Builder to use as my editor of choice for all my CFML projects (both Railo-based and otherwise). Why? Because I think ColdFusion Builder is the best CFML IDE available! Yeah, I'd hoped it would be $199 but when I saw it included Flash Builder 4 - which I may well use from time to time - I figured it was a true bargain and was only too happy to cough up my own dollars for something that will make me a more productive developer. I can't believe the complaining I've seen over the last 24 hours about $299... sheesh, folks probably could have earned $299 in the time spent complaining about it... and this from folks who happily spent nearly twice that on ColdFusion Studio... I just don't get it. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
... Said the person who sold $65,000 of his stuff to cover his bills. I feel for ya man. I really do. I lost my house. EL. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: I know there was a smiley on that but I do feel compelled to respond with a bit more personal background so folks have context... Last April I was let go from Broadchoice and essentially went freelance. Yes, I head up Railo in the US but it's actually an unpaid position as I build up the US consulting business - and so far I've delegated almost all the Railo consulting to a handful of trusted contractors. When I'm comfortable with the business operations, I'll pay myself a salary. We pay our contractors, we sponsor conferences, we do some marketing and we support core engineering to develop the server (funded by our European business). So having been let go, I'm on Cal-COBRA and my wife then breaks her ankle and is laid up for nearly two months and in a wheelchair for nearly another two months. I'm focused on looking after her - and doing very little consulting. We lived off our savings for a lot of 2009 and having to liquidate the assets necessary to do that meant we lost about $17,000 due to investments being down - on top of the nearly $65,000 we actually liquidated to cover mortgage, car loans, medical bills ($11,000) and so on. We were lucky we had savings so we didn't lose our home. All that said, my wife is a smart business woman and insisted I buy a (much needed) new computer at the end of 2009 and understands that software, books and conferences are important to my business. When I drop a few hundred bucks on a piece of software to improve my productivity, that's a reasonable business expense. With our personal loses in 2009, at least a tax refund is in our future! :) Sean On Wednesday, March 24, 2010, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Kris Sisk ks...@gckschools.com wrote: $300 cheap for any software? What kind of Kool Aid have you been drinking? Since folks have repeatedly referred to Dreamweaver as $300 let me correct them and point out DW is $399. Let me also remind folks that people seemed perfectly happy to pay $499 for ColdFusion Studio back in the day. So here's a CFML editor that does a helluva lot more than ColdFusion Studio and is much more code-centric than Dreamweaver (the biggest complaints I hear from CFers about DW) and now people are complaining that this much more powerful CFML editor is too expensive when it costs less than both the apparently beloved ColdFusion Studio and Dreamweaver (which had HomeSite+ - the re-badged CFS product - bundled with it for a while)?? Might I ask, WTF are you people smoking? :) The issue is that we're already shelling out at least $1200 to Adobe for a product that has free products as its chief competition. It would have been wise, given that price tag versus the price tag of PHP (or even Railo) to give us a free, or at least inexpensive, IDE. Hey, I'm the CEO of Railo Technologies, Inc. - the US consulting arm of Railo - and I ponied up $299 of my own personal money on Monday night at 8:56p PST to buy ColdFusion Builder to use as my editor of choice for all my CFML projects (both Railo-based and otherwise). Why? Because I think ColdFusion Builder is the best CFML IDE available! Yeah, I'd hoped it would be $199 but when I saw it included Flash Builder 4 - which I may well use from time to time - I figured it was a true bargain and was only too happy to cough up my own dollars for something that will make me a more productive developer. I can't believe the complaining I've seen over the last 24 hours about $299... sheesh, folks probably could have earned $299 in the time spent complaining about it... and this from folks who happily spent nearly twice that on ColdFusion Studio... I just don't get it. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:33 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: ... Said the person who sold $65,000 of his stuff to cover his bills. I feel for ya man. I really do. I lost my house. That really does suck. The economy has been brutal for most of us this last year and some have fared much worse than others. I sympathize. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Emmit Larson wrote: ... Said the person who sold $65,000 of his stuff to cover his bills. I feel for ya man. I really do. I lost my house. Damn bro, yer cold. Not cool. Sean, thanks for sharing. It made me feel better about having a rough year or three myself. Kinda nice to see the human side of folk who are consummate pros, ja knows? Three cheers for supportive partners, too! It freaking helps *a lot*. Personally, I feel like I have the power to make things better, so that's what I'm focusing on. Life is like the ocean, up and down and rough and calm and whatever... it's important that we're able to grasp the beauty that's there, even in the shittiest of times. I'm happy just to exist. Not everything does. :DeN -- During the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that conditions called war; and such a war, as if of every man, against every man. Thomas Hobbes ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: GIT Anyone?
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Ben Alembick benalemb...@gmail.com wrote: The more i think about this the more i don't understand how its is all meant to work. I have EGIT installed and have kinda gotten the hang of committing, adding to version control resource history on a local project stored on my machine. There are several CF folks who are much more experienced with git than I but I don't know if they're on cf-talk these days. Anyway, the basic concept of git is that instead of a single, central repo, everyone has a repo and git allows people to clone from one place to another and merge back so that everyone has the complete history locally and at any point, any given repo can be designated the master and patches from other repos merged into it. However i have my live sites on a remote server hosted (at Alurium) how should i go about getting the sites onto my local machine and using GIT? then syncing? You've got a lot of options - fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view. You could just maintain local git repos for each site simply by putting an up to date copy of each site on your local machine and then doing git init in each top-level folder. You could also get an account on one of the various service providers that offer git hosting - Assembla is extremely good but there are several others. The docs for the provider will walk you through the steps involved in either creating a remote repo, cloning it locally (empty), adding your code and then committing it back to the provider or importing your local git repo up to the provider. I'd highly recommend paying for a service like that since you then get remote access from any machine - including your live servers if you chose to deploy direct from git - as well as having your source code in a secure location that is backed up regularly. Hope that helps point you in a useful direction... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
You lost me, Jake :) There is no edition of FlashBuilder that I see priced at $299. There's standard ($249), which does not include CFBuilder, and Premium, which is priced at $699 and dies include CFBuilder. FYI The Upgrade Price for Flash Builder Premium is $US 299 ($AUD 412) which happens to be the same price as CF Builder with Flash Builder Standard (outright purchase). Guys, we can argue all we like about Adobe pricing strategy for CFB and FB, but fact remains they are a commercial software house and entitled to charge whatever they like for the results of their labour and investement. AND make profit from it. Its their risk and if they came up with the right strategy then they will enjoy commercial success. All power to them. As developers we make the choice to buy the product if we like it and expect to get a commercial gain from using it. Presumably that would be based on productivity. My choice is to buy it and I have (delivery next week since I want the box). On the other hand this particular thread seems to have taken on a life of its own, and it has become boring and not entertaining. I am surprised that the moderator has not stepped in by now, as many of the comments have been close to the board inflammatory. There IS a dedicated list for CFB, why not use it ??? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Bryn Parrott bryn_parr...@internode.on.net wrote: FYI The Upgrade Price for Flash Builder Premium is $US 299 ($AUD 412) which happens to be the same price as CF Builder with Flash Builder Standard (outright purchase). Guys, we can argue all we like about Adobe pricing strategy for CFB and FB, but fact remains they are a commercial software house and entitled to charge whatever they like for the results of their labour and investement. AND make profit from it. Its their risk and if they came up with the right strategy then they will enjoy commercial success. All power to them. As developers we make the choice to buy the product if we like it and expect to get a commercial gain from using it. Presumably that would be based on productivity. My choice is to buy it and I have (delivery next week since I want the box). On the other hand this particular thread seems to have taken on a life of its own, and it has become boring and not entertaining. I am surprised that the moderator has not stepped in by now, as many of the comments have been close to the board inflammatory. There IS a dedicated list for CFB, why not use it ??? Let me state this as simple as I can... Flash is DEAD unless it's on the iPhone! Either get it on there or it's going to be Javascript and html5 or 8 out of 10 projects will be using javascript and html5 solutions, while Adobe goes down... Flex is Dead if Flash is dead. Don't be fooled, you would be going down the wrong path in your development career if you relied on flash right now. Totally limiting your opportunities in delivering cross platform applications with little outside assistance. What happened to exporting apps into iPhone apps? Wasn't that one of the main highlights of Flash Builder previews? Export your Flex/ AIR apps to iPhone? I tried searching their highlights page and found nothing searching for iPhone? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
var scope cfhttp within function
using cfhttp within a function (get or head) should I be var scoping cfhttp? I'm fairly certain I should but have not been able to find any examples. cffunction name=youTubedata access=public output=true cfargument name=youtubeKey type=string required=true cfset var cfhttp = structNew() cfset var myreturn = structNew() cfset var thisimage = false cfset var xmlQuery = cfset var intRow = cfset var xmlRow = cfset var intChild = cfset var youtubeimage = cfset var youtubetitle = cfset var youtubeduration = cfhttp method=get url=http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/#arguments.youtubeKey#; cfif cfhttp.status_code eq 200 cfset xmlQuery = XmlParse( cfhttp.filecontent ) !--- etc, etc. --- /cfif /cffunction Andrew. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: var scope cfhttp within function
I believe so. Post below scoped the result name. Brian Kotek says in the comments you can also do cfset var cfhttp= / http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2008/6/16/cfc.application.variables - Gabriel On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Andrew Grosset rushg...@yahoo.com wrote: using cfhttp within a function (get or head) should I be var scoping cfhttp? I'm fairly certain I should but have not been able to find any examples. cffunction name=youTubedata access=public output=true cfargument name=youtubeKey type=string required=true cfset var cfhttp = structNew() cfset var myreturn = structNew() cfset var thisimage = false cfset var xmlQuery = cfset var intRow = cfset var xmlRow = cfset var intChild = cfset var youtubeimage = cfset var youtubetitle = cfset var youtubeduration = cfhttp method=get url=http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/#arguments.youtubeKey#; cfif cfhttp.status_code eq 200 cfset xmlQuery = XmlParse( cfhttp.filecontent ) !--- etc, etc. --- /cfif /cffunction Andrew. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I had to ash in my 401k to stay afloat...so I get the double whammy with my tax filing now and have to pay the 10% penalty...we have no savings left whatsoever after being unemployed for 8 months. It sucks out there. Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: ... Said the person who sold $65,000 of his stuff to cover his bills. I feel for ya man. I really do. I lost my house. That really does suck. The economy has been brutal for most of us this last year and some have fared much worse than others. I sympathize. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Hang in there, guys...but it's just gonna get worse with Obamanomics in play, especially now that Obamacare has been launched. Maybe the government will pay to bury us when we drain our resources trying to stay afloat and end up in poor health and lacking even the resources to buy government sponsored health insurance and die with our fingers on the keyboard and heads falling against our monitors. As a matter of fact, as far as my family is concerned, my business (even this solo developer) is too big to fail, so I should get a bail-out! Where's mine??? But I wouldn't want to interject any politics into this...so just pretend that I didn't write the above. :o) Rick -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:44 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released! I had to ash in my 401k to stay afloat...so I get the double whammy with my tax filing now and have to pay the 10% penalty...we have no savings left whatsoever after being unemployed for 8 months. It sucks out there. Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: ... Said the person who sold $65,000 of his stuff to cover his bills. I feel for ya man. I really do. I lost my house. That really does suck. The economy has been brutal for most of us this last year and some have fared much worse than others. I sympathize. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
especially now that Obamacare has been launched. Thread closing in... 3...2...1. G! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:44 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released! I had to ash in my 401k to stay afloat...so I get the double whammy with my tax filing now and have to pay the 10% penalty...we have no savings left whatsoever after being unemployed for 8 months. It sucks out there. Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: ... Said the person who sold $65,000 of his stuff to cover his bills. I feel for ya man. I really do. I lost my house. That really does suck. The economy has been brutal for most of us this last year and some have fared much worse than others. I sympathize. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Yeah, I figured Michael would grind this one to a halt after Mr. Just-Couldn't-Stand-It-And- Had-To-Bring-In-Politics made a statement... ;o) Oh, and by-the-way, I'm beaten by all the rational arguments... I believe Adobe is perfectly justified in pricing their Eclipse plug-in at $299. If developers don't like it, tough. Adobe has to continue to make a lot of money while the rest of us suffer through this economy. So, Adobe product users, instead of buying groceries with the money to buy our high-priced, and actually-worth-$2000 product, (in our minds anyway) you can eat your old CF WACK books. lots of fiber there... :oP Rick -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:42 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! especially now that Obamacare has been launched. Thread closing in... 3...2...1. G! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:44 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released! I had to ash in my 401k to stay afloat...so I get the double whammy with my tax filing now and have to pay the 10% penalty...we have no savings left whatsoever after being unemployed for 8 months. It sucks out there. Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Emmit Larson emmit.lar...@gmail.com wrote: ... Said the person who sold $65,000 of his stuff to cover his bills. I feel for ya man. I really do. I lost my house. That really does suck. The economy has been brutal for most of us this last year and some have fared much worse than others. I sympathize. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: var scope cfhttp within function
thankyou Gabriel, Andrew. I believe so. Post below scoped the result name. Brian Kotek says in the comments you can also do cfset var cfhttp= / http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2008/6/16/cfc.application.variables - Gabriel ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF 9 Server Manager/CF Builder Feature
With both the CF 9 Air Application (server manager) and with CF Builder you are supposed to be able to restart remote CF servers from a centralized location. I really would like to be able to utilize this feature, (mostly in the AIR app, as that's where I'd need to do it) but so far, have not been able to get it working. I've installed CF 9 Enterprise on a remote server (I have RDS access), downloaded the .war file from Adobe, and installed it (I think) in the correct directory. I've modified the password in the jrun-users.xml (And put the new password in the Serer Manager) and restarted the remote server. I've also tried running adminstart.bat, but it just tells me it's currently running. The Start Stop Restart options are still greyed out in Server Manager after reconnecting. When I try to connect to the remote server on port 8000 (supposedly the JRUN admin server location) I get a 500 error. It's a default installation, using IIS 6 and CF as as standalone server, and no firewalls are running between me and this particular server. Can anybody give me some idea on how to get this working? I'm upgrading my farm from CF 7 to CF 9 and managing 10 or so CF servers individually is (has been) a pain without this killer new feature. Thanks in Advance. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
how to incremently fetch data
Hi, I run some query and per say fetch 100 records. now i run other query which fetch 150 records. I want that just 50 records be actually fetched in second round from database. How can this be possible? fyi- i am using MachII for my application. Thanks. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
