Re: Regex Question
Could be as simple as \w{3} Would that do it (searching for 3 consecutive word characters)? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. On Thursday, April 28, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Rick Colman wrote: input looks like: (A XXX)(B YYY)(C ZZZ) I need to pull out: XXXYYYZZZ ... Can somebody help? TNX. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344026 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: who's in charge around here?
On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Dave Watts wrote: The person in charge is Michael Dinowitz. He's kick ass, but busy with about 300 children and tons of extra circular activities. I'm not sure what an extra circular activity is, but I guess it has something to do with having 300 kids! Hey, when one of you slackers does get around to re-doing the web interface, can you add a Like button? Because it's a crime that I can't like this reply :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Storing decimal parts of a second cfqueryparam
I think your code is fine, but take a look at the precision value for the column in SQL Server. Ensure that it's set to 2. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. On Saturday, February 26, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: OK, just not my night with decimal values. Trying to store distances (for throwing and jumping events), which are measured in feet and inches. In order to maintain proper sort order, I decided to convert feet and inches (with fractions of an inch as decimal value) to inches with fractions of an inch as decimal values. Again, database is SQL Server 2008, and I'm using cfqueryparam. Data type for the column in question is decimal(18, 4), and I'm using CF_SQL_DECIMAL as the cfsqltype value. I can see in the debug output that the decimal portion of the value is part of the value to be inserted, for instance, 825.25, but looking at the database table, the stored value is 825. Here's the debug output for that query: *insertResult* (Datasource=track, Time=2ms, Records=1) in C:\inetpub\wwwroot\track\enter_results.cfm @ 21:59:59.059 INSERT INTO tblEventResults(eventid, athleteid, time, distance, competition) VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?) Query Parameter Value(s) - Parameter #1(CF_SQL_INTEGER) = 1 Parameter #2(CF_SQL_INTEGER) = 1 Parameter #3(CF_SQL_TIMESTAMP) = Parameter #4(CF_SQL_DECIMAL) = 825.25 Parameter #5(CF_SQL_BIT) = NO Should I be using a different precision value for the decimal datatype? Or am I just doing something idiotic? Thanks, Pete On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, that did it! Thanks! Pete On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pete: Have you tried cf_sql_timestamp as the cfsqltype (as opposed to cf_sql_time)? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. On Saturday, February 26, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: I'm building an app for keeping track of high school track meet results using CF9 and MS SQL Server 2008. I am using the time(7) data type in the database, and when doing the insert query, I'm using cfqueryparam with a sqltype of cf_sql_time. However, when entering a time value of, for example, 00:01:22.05, the value that actually gets inserted drops the decimal part of the seconds. When I do the insert query without using cfqueryparam, it works fine. I prefer using cfqueryparam for obvious reasons and am always hesitant to not use it, so is there a way to get it to work and still have it retain the decimal portion of the second? Thanks, Pete ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342611 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Storing decimal parts of a second cfqueryparam
Hi Pete: Have you tried cf_sql_timestamp as the cfsqltype (as opposed to cf_sql_time)? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. On Saturday, February 26, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: I'm building an app for keeping track of high school track meet results using CF9 and MS SQL Server 2008. I am using the time(7) data type in the database, and when doing the insert query, I'm using cfqueryparam with a sqltype of cf_sql_time. However, when entering a time value of, for example, 00:01:22.05, the value that actually gets inserted drops the decimal part of the seconds. When I do the insert query without using cfqueryparam, it works fine. I prefer using cfqueryparam for obvious reasons and am always hesitant to not use it, so is there a way to get it to work and still have it retain the decimal portion of the second? Thanks, Pete ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342600 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Re: Change in ColdFusion management
Adam posted that from his gmail account. Doesn't seem that he was acting in any official capacity for his company there (also no sig indicating that he's an Adobe employee). Yeah, I understand that there are some politics in play, but regardless of the position we hold, or the company for whom we work, I think people should generally be allowed to express their opinions outside of that, without fear of repercussion. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote: That's one way to look at it. But the much more likely view (and the one Adobe sees) is that the people who think he's guilty of bad behavior are not only a tiny minority, but are also wrong. Perhaps I have a misunderstanding of the Adobe corporate culture, but if I was acting in an official capacity for my company and called one of our customers a dick on a public mailing list, I'm pretty sure that my boss would consider that bad behavior. Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342301 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: coldfusion errors
There's a whole section on it in the livedocs :) http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec22c24-7fc4.html On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote: Is there anyway to catch coldfusion programming errors? cfoutput#999sdflkjsdf;lk#/cfoutput is caught by my error handler. But cfoutput#alsdk;fjlkj#/cfoutpu is not. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342026 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Charge for meetings
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.net wrote: Sean, it would be interesting to learn what source code repository + ticketing system you use. Unfuddle.com seems to be the most accessible for clients in terms of friendly terminology etc. And I use git with it. Hey wow. Me too :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
Rather than ignore it... is it worth trying to steer in a more productive direction? Can it be a productive discussion? I've gone on record before as saying I don't think the existence of the alternate engines spells the doom of Adobe ColdFusion. I may be wrong, but lord I hope not. Adobe ColdFusion has been -very- good to me over the past 15 years, not just professionally, but personally. Many of the people that I consider my best friends are friends that I've made in the CF community. So I've got both a personal and professional interest in this, and it's a subject that I care about quite a bit. If it can't be done here... so be it. Just seems that we have representation from all sides, and nobody seems to be too shy about sharing how they feel. All we need to do is steer the discussion in a direction where it's more productive and constructive. Assuming that direction... y'know... exists. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: Good point, I guess I blocked those from my memory. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to ignore this pointless banter up for a few more days before the thread makes it to the CF-Talk Rogues Gallery. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference? I officially nominate this thread as the least productive on cf-talk ever. I'm sorry, Ben, but this one isn't even close. Are you forgetting all the why isn't CF/CFB free threads? Or the is CF dying threads? This one will need at least twenty more replies before it's even in the same category. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341768 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
Ben - if you think there's a venue in which the discussion *could* be had productively, I'd love to be a part of it, or at the very least, do whatever I could to help make it happen. Just say the word. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: Charlie, I'd love to have a productive discussion on this subject. And yes, I have opinions on this one, I've shared them before and am happy to do so again. And no, as much as I admire Adam's passion for ColdFusion (it's why I nudged him into the role), I don't fully agree with his take on things. But regardless, I don't think this thread can be steered anywhere. When conversations denigrate to emotional rants and accusations and unsubstantiated sweeping generalizations, that's when I back away. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:28 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference? Rather than ignore it... is it worth trying to steer in a more productive direction? Can it be a productive discussion? I've gone on record before as saying I don't think the existence of the alternate engines spells the doom of Adobe ColdFusion. I may be wrong, but lord I hope not. Adobe ColdFusion has been -very- good to me over the past 15 years, not just professionally, but personally. Many of the people that I consider my best friends are friends that I've made in the CF community. So I've got both a personal and professional interest in this, and it's a subject that I care about quite a bit. If it can't be done here... so be it. Just seems that we have representation from all sides, and nobody seems to be too shy about sharing how they feel. All we need to do is steer the discussion in a direction where it's more productive and constructive. Assuming that direction... y'know... exists. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: Good point, I guess I blocked those from my memory. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to ignore this pointless banter up for a few more days before the thread makes it to the CF-Talk Rogues Gallery. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference? I officially nominate this thread as the least productive on cf-talk ever. I'm sorry, Ben, but this one isn't even close. Are you forgetting all the why isn't CF/CFB free threads? Or the is CF dying threads? This one will need at least twenty more replies before it's even in the same category. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341778 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Subtracting two dates
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Adam Bourg adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to subtract two dates and return the number of days between then. My dates are cprAdultExp, which is a database column, I typically write it as: #dateformat(cprAdultExp,mm/dd/)# The other is Now() Which I also format as: #dateformat(Now(),mm/dd/)# What's the easy way to do this? http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#datediff -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341645 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion Hosting
Well, if you believe in the old adage of you get what you pay for... then decent and cheap are mutually exclusive :) That being said... since decent is a subjective term (altho I guess cheap is as well), a while back I hosted my blog at http://hostingatoz.com/. Their most expensive package (which includes ColdFusion 8) is $75 a year. When I was with them, it was... decent. There were downtimes, but I sort of expected that going into a $75/yr host. I will say the downtimes weren't nearly as frequent as I expected, and the support was very good, at least in terms of responsiveness. I know others who used them (some at my recommendation back then), who didn't have as good of an experience. At $75/yr, you takes your chances :) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Adam Bourg adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent yet cheap web host for ColdFusion? Right now I'm hosting my site at DreamHost (Simple wordpress as CMS site). I'm looking for SQL PHP 5 and Coldfusion 8 support all under $6. Am I dreaming? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341650 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion Hosting
Weird. Comes up for me. Came up for me a few minutes ago (I brought the site up to check the price). Hmm... On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) sd1...@att.com wrote: That's funny, http://hostingatoz.com/ returns FORBIDDEN You don't have permission to access/ on this server! Steve -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 2:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion Hosting Well, if you believe in the old adage of you get what you pay for... then decent and cheap are mutually exclusive :) That being said... since decent is a subjective term (altho I guess cheap is as well), a while back I hosted my blog at http://hostingatoz.com/. Their most expensive package (which includes ColdFusion 8) is $75 a year. When I was with them, it was... decent. There were downtimes, but I sort of expected that going into a $75/yr host. I will say the downtimes weren't nearly as frequent as I expected, and the support was very good, at least in terms of responsiveness. I know others who used them (some at my recommendation back then), who didn't have as good of an experience. At $75/yr, you takes your chances :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion Hosting
When you're paying $75 a year for CF hosting, you don't get the luxury of folks getting to see it in multiple browsers :D On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:16 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) sd1...@att.com wrote: Strange it came up for me in Firefox, but my Corporate version of IE8 gets the following error: Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 2:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion Hosting Weird. Comes up for me. Came up for me a few minutes ago (I brought the site up to check the price). Hmm... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341662 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Return boolean from a CFC query
Got a few questions about your CFC method... 1) where is the variable DSN coming from? 2) Should your WHERE be: WHERE profileID = #session.profile.profileID# ? (essentially the reverse of what you have) 3) consider using cfqueryparam in your SQL when using dynamic values (yeah, I know... that's not a question) 4) along those same lines, you should var scope your query name. cfset var isStudentEmployee = /, and then run the cfquery. It may or may not be a big deal for this particular method... but in general, you want to var scope any variable used in a method. This ensures that the variable is bound to that method and that method only. 5) you're running the query, but returning true regardless of the result of the query. Should there perhaps be a conditional in there? 6) As Michael F. suggested, you might want to pass the profileID variable in as an argument to the method. It's generally considered to be bad practice to reference session (or any outside scope) from within a cfc method, as that breaks encapsulation (meaning the method should only know about itself... nothing about the 'outside world'... anything it needs to know should be sent in to it... think black box). 7) To see what the query is returning, you can always do a cfdump var=#isStudentEmployee# /cfabort / right after the /cfquery and above the cfreturn On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Adam Bourg adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm building a module that only our Professional Staff can access, I am trying to identify where the person logged in is a pro staff member or a student staffer. When they log into our CMS, there is a session variable that returns their profile id. it is: #Session.Profile.profileID# We have two tables: Table 1: pro_profile Primary key: profileID This contains all users, their information etc... Table 2: mod_userStatus Primary key: Sec Key: profileID This is simply a primary key with a secondary key of profileID. If a person is on this list they are a prostaffer, if not they are a student. I'm trying to query the database and return boolean if the user exists on mod_userStatus. If yes, they can access the page, if no, redirect. Here's the CFC. cffunction name=isStudentEmployee returntype=boolean hint=Method to determine if the person logged in is a student or pro staffer, will corelate to a control structure if student employee throw up access denied cfquery datasource=#DSN# name=isStudentEmployee SELECT profileID FROM mod_userStatus WHERE #Session.Profile.profileID# = profileID /cfquery cfreturn true /cffunction When I run this, it just gives me a blank page, returns nothing and no error. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341393 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Return boolean from a CFC query -- UPDATE: Solved
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Adam Bourg adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote: I solved it with the first couple of posts help. cfif isStudentEmployee.recordcount eq 0 cfreturn true cfelse cfreturn false /cfif Glad you got it working. You can tighten that return up a bit by doing: cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount = 0 / Then no need for the conditional. You could also drop the comparison itself since CF does implicit boolean conversion. cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount / ^That'll do the same thing. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341402 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Return boolean from a CFC query -- UPDATE: Solved
Well, it will return the actual recordcount... which is a number. But CF implicitly converts numeric values to boolean values. Any non-zero value is true, while any zero value is false. So given the following code: cfif myCFC.myMethod()do something/cfif ... assuming myMethod returns a numeric value, your page will output do something as long as the value returned is not zero. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Che Vilnonis ch...@asitv.com wrote: Charlie, is this true only when the return type is Boolean? Otherwise, it should return the actual recordcount, right? Thanks, Che You could also drop the comparison itself since CF does implicit boolean conversion. cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount / ^That'll do the same thing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341419 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Return boolean from a CFC query -- UPDATE: Solved
d'oH! Good catch. So if you go the implicit boolean conversion route, switch the return true for return false... On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, these will not return the same value. Lets assume the query returns 0 records. cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount = 0 / will return true cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount / will return false On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Adam Bourg adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote: I solved it with the first couple of posts help. cfif isStudentEmployee.recordcount eq 0 cfreturn true cfelse cfreturn false /cfif Glad you got it working. You can tighten that return up a bit by doing: cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount = 0 / Then no need for the conditional. You could also drop the comparison itself since CF does implicit boolean conversion. cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount / ^That'll do the same thing. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Return boolean from a CFC query -- UPDATE: Solved
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Ezra Parker e...@cfgrok.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount = 0 / Unless I'm missing something, this should be: cfreturn isStudentEmployee.recordcount eq 0 / Y'know, I'd bring up the fact that I've been working in script much more than tags lately... but = *still* wouldn't be the correct operator. *sigh* :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341433 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
You missed the part where he said, And I'm the sole breadwinner. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I am sure you also make a lot more than I do (combined household that is...especially if your wife has an MBA...mine is going for her CAN certificate) Sean ;-) -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 22:21 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: why is cf_builder so expensive? We all have priorities and choices and there are pros and cons to all of them. I also have a wife (of 11+ years now) and we're still paying off her MBA loans (from Pepperdine). We have no human kids but we have a lot of four-legged furry 'kids' that eat us out of house and home. And I'm the sole breadwinner. Luckily my wife makes me spend money on stuff for my consulting business (esp. in November / December as the end of the tax year looms large) so each year normally sees an appropriate amount of software and hardware purchased. And of course conference attendance counts too (so, apart from missing me when I'm not home, she's very supportive / encouraging of me attending conferences). I know we've had this discussion before and I suspect we'll just have to agree to disagree. Sean On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yeah...wife...and an ex-wife, 2 kids (one lives with us, other with ex) plus 3 step kids (one lives with us)...plus wife is going to school and the step daughter that lives with us also has a daughter and is not employed so I am the sole breadwinner for the household...so yeah...300 is a shitload of money to me. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341499 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: I am surprised that nobody has really tried to say why cf builder is so good likes it features. in other words, nobody has really provided a good reason as to why should I invest in it. Because good is relative. What I think is good, you might not... so why don't *you* download the trial and take it for a spin. See if *you* think it's good. Or, at the very least, worth $299 (which also includes FlashBuilder). As far as why it's different than CFEclipse... already been put together for you. www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/whitepapers/pdf/cfb_overview.pdf -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to hear that coming from a CTO of a leading company, but your opinion is your opinion and I can respect that. Actually, I have gotten some good perspectives and while I think it could be cheaper my aim was to get a discussion going about it because I have been away for a while. I just wish you had offered a wider perspective on it. Not sure what you're sorry to hear... everything Dave said was spot-on (he's more spot-on than Wikipedia). As far as his (or anybody's) perspective... again, it's not necessarily a productive use of anybody's time (yours or theirs). I can tell you that it has feature X, which absolutely ROCKS! But you might not have a need for feature X, or you just might not like feature X. There's a trial period that allows you to form your own perspective on it. Asking other people why should I buy it, without having downloaded it yourself and trying it... doesn't seem like the most judicious use of anybody's time. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of succes ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341303 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: Remember: the success of PHP, Ruby and other languages has come about _without_ a company spending money on marketing. Those languages have become popular because their users - their communities - have evangelized and created tutorials and books and great free open source software and so on. You can't lay the fault at Adobe's door... Sure, but PHP, Ruby and other languages don't have an up front cost associated with them. So yeah, nobody had to market those languages, but at the same time, those languages didn't have to overcome the objections of why should I pay $x per server up front and then the costs of upgrades... I think the CF community has done OK in creating tutorials and the like. Books, maybe not so much since version 6, but I think that's more due to publishers not being so interested in publishing ColdFusion books. Great free open source software? Yeah, we may be lacking in that area compared to other languages... but I think that price tag issue still comes into play there. You can set up a PHP server and grab wordpress and be up and running. If you want ColdFusion OSS, you still need to buy the ColdFusion license... so I don't know that the demand has been there enough to justify the effort. Don't get me wrong... you and I have had this conversation at CFUG meetings. There just doesn't seem to be as much enthusiasm in general within the CF community as there is in some other, younger communities. We've talked about some of the reasons why that might be (mature language, many users content to get by using what they know...), and that's unfortunate. But CF is, and likely always will be, a niche product. We'll never have the sheer numbers that PHP or Ruby do. So as enthusiastic as our army may ever be... we'll never have the numbers to go out and really make a significant impact on the programming community as a whole. We're just not big enough (and yeah, i know, that's what she said). So yes... I think there's some responsibility in the community to evangelize and help spread the word. But I do think we are perfectly justified in laying a good amount of the responsibility at Adobe's door. It's their product. They charge for it (the product, the support). I think they share a huge chunk of the responsibility in helping to spread the word, and I'd personally love to see them make more of an effort in that area. If Microsoft could show up as a sponsor at a CF conference, why doesn't Adobe show up at MS events? Or other non Adobe-specific events? Where's the advertising in the media targeting other developers? I see lots of it for Flex and AIR and hey let's all go be Android developers and f*ck Apple. Don't see nearly that much time/energy/effort in saying, hey let's all go be CF developers and f*ck Ruby or .NET or whomever else. Just my $0.02 :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340805 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote: Thanks, everyone for all the different perspectives. I know that if I were looking at coldfusion for the first time these days, with all the OOP and framework talk dominating the 'airwaves', I'd probably go with PHP or something else... I think if you were looking at CF for the first time these days, you'd be looking at the features that were consistent with your skill set. If you were a beginner, you'd probably be pretty happy that CF can get you up and writing web applications pretty darn quickly. If you were more advanced, you'd probably be looking for stuff like, are there frameworks? (yes!), does it do ORM? (yes!), can I write components in script? (yes!)... CF is a very unique animal. As a beginner, you can get up and running very quickly. As a more experienced developer, you can take advantage of a number of powerful features. I don't think that beginners should be concerned with the frameworks, ORM, etc. Those features are there when and if that person needs them. For all of the advances that CF has made in recent years, this still works, and is valid CFML: cfif a IS NOT TRUE#b#/cfif If you were a beginner, I would think that would look more appealing over most other languages :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340674 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Auto Complete
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:32 PM, George Campbell gtc1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am running CF8 and I would like to implement a text box that would auto-complete with a drop down. I would like it to work as if I was using Outlook to look up a person in the Data-base. http://jqueryui.com/demos/autocomplete/ Works a treat. I just implemented it for a customer running CF 7. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of succes ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340479 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Auto Complete
Ooh nice. I (obviously) hadn't used the built-in functionality. Did a quick google before answering, but all I saw in the results (at a quick glance) were using the jQuery autocomplete in conjunction with CF, so I assumed it wasn't there (built-in). My bad :) On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Adrocknaphobia adrocknapho...@gmail.com wrote: It's actually built-in to ColdFusion 8's cfinput tag. cfinput autosuggest=... / http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/help.html?content=Tags_i_07.html -Adam On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:32 PM, George Campbell gtc1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am running CF8 and I would like to implement a text box that would auto-complete with a drop down. I would like it to work as if I was using Outlook to look up a person in the Data-base. http://jqueryui.com/demos/autocomplete/ Works a treat. I just implemented it for a customer running CF 7. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of succes ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340483 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Diplaying struct info when you dump an array with strcts in it's elements...
You can add the label attribute? cfdump var=#myStruct1# label=myStruct1 / cfdump var=#myOtherStruct# label=a different struct / On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Is there a way to get cfdump to display the struct name when it dumps? I have an array that contains a struct and I am having some issues adding some vars for display so I want to make sure I am addressing it correctly. Currently, all cfdump shows is the word struct. It looks like everything is addressed properly, but I am getting errors saying that the vars aren't defined. I am learning a new application (new position) so I am immersed in a rather steep learning curve at the moment while trying to get stuff done that needs to be done next week :-D Nothing like hitting the ground running! Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340271 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Diplaying struct info when you dump an array with strcts in it's elements...
The value for label can be any value you want... literal string or variable. On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Any way to ge that dynamically label structures instead of just putting array or struct? -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 19:51 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Diplaying struct info when you dump an array with strcts in it's elements... You can add the label attribute? cfdump var=#myStruct1# label=myStruct1 / cfdump var=#myOtherStruct# label=a different struct / On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Is there a way to get cfdump to display the struct name when it dumps? I have an array that contains a struct and I am having some issues adding some vars for display so I want to make sure I am addressing it correctly. Currently, all cfdump shows is the word struct. It looks like everything is addressed properly, but I am getting errors saying that the vars aren't defined. I am learning a new application (new position) so I am immersed in a rather steep learning curve at the moment while trying to get stuff done that needs to be done next week :-D Nothing like hitting the ground running! Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340273 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Variable Scoping in CF8, CF9
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Matthew Reinbold matthew.reinb...@voxpopdesign.com wrote: I know that correctly scoping variables in ColdFusion is important to prevent unexpected results if a variable is accidentally reused elsewhere in a CFC. But, if I remember correctly, in CFMX there were some pretty nasty memory leaks that could occur if variables weren't scoped correctly. Does that apply to newer (8,9) versions of ColdFusion? Yup. All function-local variables in a CFC should be var scoped. CF 9 did introduce the local scope inside of CFC methods, so doing this: cffunction name=myFunction cfset local.myVariable = foo / /cffunction is functionally equivalent to doing: cffunction name=myFunction cfset var myVariable = foo / /cffunction So while there are now 2 ways to declare a variable as local to a given function (assuming you're on CF 9), the requirement still remains that you do need to scope these variables properly in order to avoid leakage. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340256 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) jQuery question
You don't need the i or o arguments for the code I posted. They were remnants from copying your original code. From the docs (http://api.jquery.com/each/): .each( function(index, Element) ) so the first argument is the index. .each() is looping over an array (the array of selected DOM elements), so for each iteration, 'i' (or whatever argument you declare) would be the position in the array of the current element. The second argument is the element itself, which can optionally be passed in. Not sure why I couldn't get it to work using o rather than creating a new instance of $( this ) for each iteration... I'd imagine passing the element in would be more performant, but probably not enough of a difference to be noticeable. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Rick Faircloth ric...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: Thanks, Charlie! That gives me the correct output. Now I can move on to the AJAX, JSON, and CF CFC processing of data. Would you be so kind as to actually explain what function the i and o play in function(i,o) ? They're variables/values passed into the function, right? I tested their necessity by taking them out of your code and just using function() instead of function(i,o) and the code still ran the same. And even some of the example code I found performing this kind of functionality for lists used both i and o in the (), but only referenced the o in the actual function. I've always been confused about the role these variables playing in function(i,o) and whatever was in the (). Does the first argument (in this case, i) always mean something specific because it's in the first argument position? And the same with the variable that's in the second position? I scoured the Internet trying to get a good explanation of using these arguments, but haven't found what I needed to understand. Thanks for any insight you'd share! Rick -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 10:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) jQuery question You're missing a # in your selector for #myTable. Even with the #, couldn't get your code to run... but the following seems to work: $( document ).ready( function() { var staffOrder = ; $( '#myTable tr' ).each( function( i,o ) { if ( staffOrder.length ) { staffOrder += , + $( this ).attr( 'class' ); } else { staffOrder = $( this ).attr( 'class' ); } }); alert('staffOrder = ' + staffOrder); }); On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: Hope some of you jQuery and CF users can answer what seems to me should be an easy question, but I can't figure out how to write this jQuery to product a list of values. (I'll use AJAX and JSON to send the value list to a cffunction for processing). Given this HTML: table id=myTable tr class=1 td1/td /tr tr class=2 td2/td /tr tr class=3 td3/td /tr tr class=4 td4/td /tr tr class=5 td5/td /tr /table How can I modify this jQuery to produce a list of the classes of the tr's above? (Output I'm looking for is 1,2,3,4,5 .) I get staffOrder = in the alert. It's as if the each function below isn't working at all. Suggestions? Thanks! Rick $(document).ready(function() { var staffOrder = ''; $('myTable tr').each(function(i,o) { if ( staffOrder.length ) { staffOrder += ',' + o.class; } else { staffOrder = o.class } }); alert('staffOrder = ' + staffOrder); }); ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340020 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) jQuery question
You're missing a # in your selector for #myTable. Even with the #, couldn't get your code to run... but the following seems to work: $( document ).ready( function() { var staffOrder = ; $( '#myTable tr' ).each( function( i,o ) { if ( staffOrder.length ) { staffOrder += , + $( this ).attr( 'class' ); } else { staffOrder = $( this ).attr( 'class' ); } }); alert('staffOrder = ' + staffOrder); }); On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: Hope some of you jQuery and CF users can answer what seems to me should be an easy question, but I can't figure out how to write this jQuery to product a list of values. (I'll use AJAX and JSON to send the value list to a cffunction for processing). Given this HTML: table id=myTable tr class=1 td1/td /tr tr class=2 td2/td /tr tr class=3 td3/td /tr tr class=4 td4/td /tr tr class=5 td5/td /tr /table How can I modify this jQuery to produce a list of the classes of the tr's above? (Output I'm looking for is 1,2,3,4,5 .) I get staffOrder = in the alert. It's as if the each function below isn't working at all. Suggestions? Thanks! Rick $(document).ready(function() { var staffOrder = ''; $('myTable tr').each(function(i,o) { if ( staffOrder.length ) { staffOrder += ',' + o.class; } else { staffOrder = o.class } }); alert('staffOrder = ' + staffOrder); }); ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340013 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: REGEX hell
... since we're throwing out recommendations for our favorite so glad this exists because of how badly I suck at reg ex apps, I've found http://gskinner.com/RegExr/desktop/ to be a -very- valuable tool. On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Dave Merrill enigm...@gmail.com wrote: Be a little careful, Regex Coach works with perl regex syntax; cf needs java syntax usually, with some differences. I can't recommend Regex Buddy highly enough. It's not free, but it's really quite excellent, supports a variety of different flavors. Dave On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Regex that is useful but unfortunately, my skills are pretty weak in that area. I use an application named The Regex Coach' to build my code. It has a place to put the string you are trying to match and another place to put your regex code. As you modify the regex code, it highlights how much of the string matches. The program is free with the option of donating via paypal to the creator if you like it. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Free ColdFusion Hosting
If this is just a project that you're working on for the sake of honing your skills, and it doesn't have to be publicly accessible, there's no reason you couldn't continue to work on it locally using the developer edition of CF. Free CF hosting is going to be hard to come by. Outside of the resource you mentioned, I can't think of any. There was one that Pablo Varando was running, but I'm not sure if it's still around. Even if it is, it was marketed as being for development only, in which case... well, yeah... the developer edition of CF running locally works a treat. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Matthew Lowrey rid...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Fellow HoFer's: Because of the economy and me being out of work until this year for almost 2 years I had to let my personal website hosted by GoDaddy go the way of the buffalo. I was basically using it to work on a home project of building a family tree program. I was doing it for fun and for using new skills I have learned at work and school. Plus, it would give me a chance to take all my family's (and wife's family's) information on the web to share with family members and our kids when they get old enough to be interested in. I was hopping to find a place where I could host my ColdFusion code while building this project (basically from scratch) for free. I know this is almost impossible but it couldn't hurt to ask and google. I found one place: http://www.cfmldeveloper.com/ but it's out of country (USA) which, I don't have a problem with, but at the same time I'm hesitant to just go anywhere with the way the world is today. Do any of you have any recommendations? Even if they aren't for free, I'm curious your thoughts on this subject. GoDaddy.com has been a great service and very reasonable, I just can't afford to go back right now. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfscript based components formatting
/* This is me agreeing */ I agree! On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.comwrote: No comments driving behavior! :-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: jquery
Maybe because you recently changed your style sheet? Can you view source and verify that the style you expect to be applied (which I assume is an external .css file) is being included with the correct path? On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com wrote: why would my jquery validation code styles not show up? I recently changed my style sheet on an app...before I made changes the jquery styling showed up (yellow background...red text). Now I get the This field is required message but with no style. Any suggestions? TIA ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338898 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: What is wrong with this loop update?
You say you're trying to update multiple rows... but your WHERE is stating, WHERE project_id = #URL.projectID#. Since URL.projectID most likely isn't changing during the iteration of that loop, you'll only ever be updating one row 'x' number of times. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Rick Colman rcol...@cox.net wrote: I am trying to update multiple rows by looping through: cfloop query=GetExpOrg (diagnostics) cfoutputrow: #GetExpOrg.currentrow# id: #GetExpOrg.ExpOrg_ID#/cfoutputbr cfquery datasource=#application.datasource# name=UpdateExpOrg update Project_ExpOrg set OrgValue=(select org_value from expressionorganism3 where exporg_id = #GetExpOrg.ExpOrg_ID#) where project_id = #url.ProjectId# /cfquery /cfloop my diagnostics give me: row: 1 id: 2 row: 2 id: 693 so that is ok. but both rows are updated with the last value (693) instead of being individually updated? What's wrong with this? TNX if you can help. Rick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338777 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Companies in Baltimore/DC/VA
While I agree with John's suggestion of reaching out to local CFUGs, I can think of 3 companies off the top of my head (but I'm sure there are others). In no particular order... Fig Leaf (http://www.figleaf.com/) AboutWeb (http://www.aboutweb.com/) Teratech (http://www.teratech.com/) On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you could also direct this question toward your local CFUG's and their members: http://groups.adobe.com/group/1021 http://groups.adobe.com/group/349 http://groups.adobe.com/group/782 http://groups.adobe.com/group/303 On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:09 PM, John Bono john_b...@ace.nche.edu wrote: Hello, We are getting ready for a major undertaking to involve a complete overhaul of our very large Web site/CMS system to include a new design, information architecture, marketing strategy, CMS platform, etc. We plan on issuing 2 RFPs: one for the design/marketing strategy and one for the technical implementation. However, finding companies in the Baltimore/Washington, DC/Virginia area with a preference for ColdFusion has proven to be very difficult. We have a preference for a company that uses ColdFusion as one of its technologies. Does anyone know of any companies in this area that would be able to perform such work? Thanks in advance! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338727 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Javascript Cfquery
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:20 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All - I am trying to do the following: script language=text/javascript function abc(arg1, arg2) { cfquery name=q datasource=.. select * from table1 where col1 = arg1 /cfquery .. } /script Is it possible to pass javascript arguments to a coldfusion query which is in turn present in the javascript block? ColdFusion runs on the server. JavaScript runs on the client. By the time the browser has rendered the page, ColdFusion has done its duty and is probably hanging out smoking a cigarette or using the little application server room. You can output CF variables to JS just like you do to HTML... script type=text/javascript var myName = cfoutput#myName#/cfoutput; /script ... but it's not a two-way conversation (much like my conversations with my wife). If you want them to talk to each other, you need to introduce AJAX into the equation. So short answer is, no... a JavaScript variable can't be used to manipulate a ColdFusion variable (but the converse works a treat), without utilizing AJAX. And maybe worth noting that the language attribute of the script tag is deprecated in favor of type. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338093 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Simple question
If it does, you can try cffile action=append file=c:\temp\temp.txt output= / On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.comwrote: So if you set the output to blank it doesn't over write the contents of the file? On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:13 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: cffile action=write file=c:\temp\temp.txt output= On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, What is the easiest way in coldfusion to touch a file. IE. updates it's modified time to be now. I can think of a few hacks, but was looking for something super easy and graceful. Dan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337946 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Reading text files
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: nope! :) Oh CF, is there anything you can't do? what about make coffee, and bring my slippers and the morning paper. If it could do that CF would truly rock. Have you checked Riaforge? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337747 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: List Sort help
What version of CF? On CF9, the following works: cfset appVers = 3.6.1,3.6.5,3.6.3,3.6.10 cfoutput#appVers#br /#listSort( appVers, 'numeric', 'desc' )#/cfoutput On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Tom Jones tjo...@acworld.com wrote: thanks, but I get an error saying cant convert 3.6.1 to numeric. tom ListSort should work: http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf8/#ListSort Although you might need to use the text sort instead of numeric. andy Hello, I have a lit of version numbers and I need to sort them in the right order. cfset appVers = 3.6.1,3.6.5,3.6.3,3.6.10 How do I sort these so that they show in the right order starting with the highest first? Thanks, tom ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337325 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: List Sort help
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com wrote: On CF9, the following works: Does it *really* work .. or just seem to? I cannot test it at the moment, but I would not have expected either sort to yield the desired results. What would be the difference between *really* working and just seeming to? I output the listSorted()'d values, they looked to be sorted. So it seems to. As to whether or not it *really* works, I will admit that I hadn't had a full cup of coffee when testing. But I agree with you... I was more surprised that it seemed to have worked than I would have been had it not. FWIW, sorting by text did not work. Well, it worked as one might have expected it to (putting 3.6.10 and 3.6.1 next to each other), but not in the way that the OP was looking for it to work. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: List Sort help
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com wrote: What would be the difference between *really* working and just seeming to? For me ... more testing and more coffee ;-) Specifically with a greater range of values, such as version numbers before and after the 3.x.x range. OK you twisted my arm into indulging in another cup of coffee (mmm coffee). You're correct. It only seemed to work with the originally given values. Changing the list to: cfset appVers = 10.2.4,3.6.1,3.6.5,3.6.3,3.6.10,1.2.5 Resulted in a sorted list of: 3.6.1, 3.6.3, 10.2.4, 1.2.5, 3.6.5, 3.6.10 I was more surprised that it seemed to have worked than I would have Exactly, and that is why I am suspicious. I was not expecting text to work at all, for obvious reasons. Neither was I expecting numeric to work because values like 3.6.1 are not numeric. At least not in the strict sense. Hence my reluctance to say it it works CF -is- treating these like some sort of numeric value tho... because if I added a value like 10.2.5.4 to the original list, a numeric listSort fails saying a non-numeric value was found. So CF sees x.x.x as a valid numeric value, but apparently not base 10 based on the sorted result above. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337343 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looping through arrays with structures
He didn't use the array attribute. He used the exact same index loop that you did (from=1 to=#arrayLen(myArray)#). On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: You can't be serious asking that sort of question, the array Attribute was introduced in ColdFusion 8. So that means people who are still running ColdFusion 5 - 7 will not be able to use that code. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] Sent: Saturday, 18 September 2010 11:09 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Looping through arrays with structures What version of cf won't my code work in? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: OOP Principles question
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Scott Stewart sstwebwo...@bellsouth.netwrote: I understand the black box principle of CFC's, make sure that your cfc's can stand on their own as black boxes. When doing OOP based development, does this paradigm extend to non-cfc ColdFusion files, IE: display and action pages. I think the concept of modularity and code reuse extends beyond OO. In views, when you find yourself reusing code, you throw it into an include. If it needs attributes passed in, you throw it into a custom tag. There's nothing that I think is particularly OO about it... it's just about working smarter and not harder :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335978 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Need a west coast (US) based CF host
Hey all... I know this topic (can somebody recommend a CF host) comes up frequently... I hate to bring it up again, but I must :) I have a client that needs to be on shared hosting (they don't have the funds for VPS, unfortunately) on a server with the clock set to PST. They're a company that's physically based in CA... recently moved hosts to an east-coast based company, and now timestamps are off by 3 hours when they add events. According to the previous developer, they're using a calendaring system (specifically, a particular version of a calendaring system) that isn't set up to handle time zone differences. He's told me that trying to update the code to handle this would open a whole new can of worms. I've explored the options, and the path of least resistance seems to be to relocate the site to a server based on the west coast. Or at the very least, a server whose clock is set to PST. A quick google turned up Illuminated Hosting ( http://www.illuminatedhosting.com/), but I'm not familiar with them. Does anybody know of this company? Or of any others that have servers set to pacific time? Thanks! Charlie -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335862 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need a west coast (US) based CF host
Hey Scott: Hmm... not sure that the current site will run under Railo. Also, their current database is SQL Server (I probably should have mentioned that). Looks like Alurium is exclusively Railo/mySQL (?) Thanks, Charlie On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: Charlie, I think Alurium is located on the West Coast, plus they're cheap and you can run CFML (Railo) http://www.alurium.com On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all... I know this topic (can somebody recommend a CF host) comes up frequently... I hate to bring it up again, but I must :) I have a client that needs to be on shared hosting (they don't have the funds for VPS, unfortunately) on a server with the clock set to PST. They're a company that's physically based in CA... recently moved hosts to an east-coast based company, and now timestamps are off by 3 hours when they add events. According to the previous developer, they're using a calendaring system (specifically, a particular version of a calendaring system) that isn't set up to handle time zone differences. He's told me that trying to update the code to handle this would open a whole new can of worms. I've explored the options, and the path of least resistance seems to be to relocate the site to a server based on the west coast. Or at the very least, a server whose clock is set to PST. A quick google turned up Illuminated Hosting ( http://www.illuminatedhosting.com/), but I'm not familiar with them. Does anybody know of this company? Or of any others that have servers set to pacific time? Thanks! Charlie -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335865 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need a west coast (US) based CF host
You'd think, right? :) I haven't even looked at the code yet. Just came onto this project last nite. But the previous developer is a friend and I trust what he says. He wrote the current site, and he told me in no uncertain terms that the time zone issue would not be even remotely easy to remedy via code. I don't know why, exactly, but I trust what I've been told. At some point I'm sure I'll dig into the code and find out. But for now, it looks like moving hosts will be the path of least resistance. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote: Now() + 3 shouldn't be that hard to implement. ;) (assuming all of the date/time stamps are being entered via CFML instead of the DB itself) Just a note, Railo allows you specify the time zone for each site, so if you want to use a Railo host, it doesn't matter where they're physically located. Your site can have it's own time zone independent of the server time zone. (again, assuming all of the date/time stamps are being entered via CFML instead of the DB itself) Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com Charlie Griefer wrote: Hey all... I know this topic (can somebody recommend a CF host) comes up frequently... I hate to bring it up again, but I must :) I have a client that needs to be on shared hosting (they don't have the funds for VPS, unfortunately) on a server with the clock set to PST. They're a company that's physically based in CA... recently moved hosts to an east-coast based company, and now timestamps are off by 3 hours when they add events. According to the previous developer, they're using a calendaring system (specifically, a particular version of a calendaring system) that isn't set up to handle time zone differences. He's told me that trying to update the code to handle this would open a whole new can of worms. I've explored the options, and the path of least resistance seems to be to relocate the site to a server based on the west coast. Or at the very least, a server whose clock is set to PST. A quick google turned up Illuminated Hosting ( http://www.illuminatedhosting.com/), but I'm not familiar with them. Does anybody know of this company? Or of any others that have servers set to pacific time? Thanks! Charlie ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335866 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need a west coast (US) based CF host
Nothing against Railo. My main project right now is a Railo site (altho we're keeping it CF9 compatible) with a mySQL database. Works a treat. I just don't know this other site well enough to be able to say, yeah, let's jump over to Railo and convert your MS SQL database to mySQL :) There's also a flex-based admin area and I'm not sure how well that would work. At this point in time... probably not something that the client would want to undertake (all of the UAT that would be necessary to ensure that all facets of the site still function properly). They're a small non-profit and I don't think they have the manpower to even do that, nor do I think they'd want to pay me to take that on. Appreciate the feedback tho. I'd heard Alurium's name mentioned before. Their prices do look appealing. Just not a good fit for this particular client right now :\ On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: Charlie, I think they are exclusively MySQL... I ported over an implementation of blogCFM and it works fine, Railo's pretty complete as far as tag support goes.. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott: Hmm... not sure that the current site will run under Railo. Also, their current database is SQL Server (I probably should have mentioned that). Looks like Alurium is exclusively Railo/mySQL (?) Thanks, Charlie On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: Charlie, I think Alurium is located on the West Coast, plus they're cheap and you can run CFML (Railo) http://www.alurium.com On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all... I know this topic (can somebody recommend a CF host) comes up frequently... I hate to bring it up again, but I must :) I have a client that needs to be on shared hosting (they don't have the funds for VPS, unfortunately) on a server with the clock set to PST. They're a company that's physically based in CA... recently moved hosts to an east-coast based company, and now timestamps are off by 3 hours when they add events. According to the previous developer, they're using a calendaring system (specifically, a particular version of a calendaring system) that isn't set up to handle time zone differences. He's told me that trying to update the code to handle this would open a whole new can of worms. I've explored the options, and the path of least resistance seems to be to relocate the site to a server based on the west coast. Or at the very least, a server whose clock is set to PST. A quick google turned up Illuminated Hosting ( http://www.illuminatedhosting.com/), but I'm not familiar with them. Does anybody know of this company? Or of any others that have servers set to pacific time? Thanks! Charlie -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335868 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need a west coast (US) based CF host
Hey Andy: I ran that past the previous developer and he said he thinks that could work. I'll run it past the client and see if they want to invest the time in me identifying which fields would need the trigger, or if they'd rather just move the site and be done with it :) Thanks for the suggestion. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote: Can I throw out a suggestion? Consider a trigger on the database that updates a new record and changes it's timestamp when it's inserted or updated? Then you don't need to migrate. andy -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Need a west coast (US) based CF host Nothing against Railo. My main project right now is a Railo site (altho we're keeping it CF9 compatible) with a mySQL database. Works a treat. I just don't know this other site well enough to be able to say, yeah, let's jump over to Railo and convert your MS SQL database to mySQL :) There's also a flex-based admin area and I'm not sure how well that would work. At this point in time... probably not something that the client would want to undertake (all of the UAT that would be necessary to ensure that all facets of the site still function properly). They're a small non-profit and I don't think they have the manpower to even do that, nor do I think they'd want to pay me to take that on. Appreciate the feedback tho. I'd heard Alurium's name mentioned before. Their prices do look appealing. Just not a good fit for this particular client right now :\ On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: Charlie, I think they are exclusively MySQL... I ported over an implementation of blogCFM and it works fine, Railo's pretty complete as far as tag support goes.. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott: Hmm... not sure that the current site will run under Railo. Also, their current database is SQL Server (I probably should have mentioned that). Looks like Alurium is exclusively Railo/mySQL (?) Thanks, Charlie On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: Charlie, I think Alurium is located on the West Coast, plus they're cheap and you can run CFML (Railo) http://www.alurium.com On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all... I know this topic (can somebody recommend a CF host) comes up frequently... I hate to bring it up again, but I must :) I have a client that needs to be on shared hosting (they don't have the funds for VPS, unfortunately) on a server with the clock set to PST. They're a company that's physically based in CA... recently moved hosts to an east-coast based company, and now timestamps are off by 3 hours when they add events. According to the previous developer, they're using a calendaring system (specifically, a particular version of a calendaring system) that isn't set up to handle time zone differences. He's told me that trying to update the code to handle this would open a whole new can of worms. I've explored the options, and the path of least resistance seems to be to relocate the site to a server based on the west coast. Or at the very least, a server whose clock is set to PST. A quick google turned up Illuminated Hosting ( http://www.illuminatedhosting.com/), but I'm not familiar with them. Does anybody know of this company? Or of any others that have servers set to pacific time? Thanks! Charlie -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335871 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need a west coast (US) based CF host
I -think- it's 2k8, but based on my discussion with the previous developer, I'm not sure database tweaks are going to do it. I've pitched Andy's trigger idea to the client. Still waiting to hear back... On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Which version of SQL Server, because timezone data is handled differently between 2005 and 2008, and if it is 2008 you could likely fix this issue with some database tweeks. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott: Hmm... not sure that the current site will run under Railo. Also, their current database is SQL Server (I probably should have mentioned that). Looks like Alurium is exclusively Railo/mySQL ( ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335877 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need a west coast (US) based CF host
Mike: The current host has severs on east coast time as well as GMT. Unfortunately, the app is architected in such a way that it can't handle timezone offsets, whether it's east coast or GMT... it expects that the time entered is going to be the time displayed :\ On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: I would have thought most hosting companies would have their servers set to UTC ( or Greenwich Mean Time) . Is that not true? I have servers in California, but ours are on UTC so we can move them from place to place if we choose and it makes no difference to the code. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: I -think- it's 2k8, but based on my discussion with the previous developer, I'm not sure database tweaks are going to do it. I've pitched Andy's trigger idea to the client. Still waiting to hear back... On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Which version of SQL Server, because timezone data is handled differently between 2005 and 2008, and if it is 2008 you could likely fix this issue with some database tweeks. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott: Hmm... not sure that the current site will run under Railo. Also, their current database is SQL Server (I probably should have mentioned that). Looks like Alurium is exclusively Railo/mySQL ( ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335881 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Regex Help
rereplace( myvar, '-+', '-', 'all' ) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: I want to replace any occurrence of multiple -- in string so the entire string only contains one - in a row after filtering. Something like this does (sort of): #Replacelist(#mayvar#,-,,---,--,-,-,-,-)# But with regex more like: #ReReplace(#myvar#,--,-,ALL)# How do I write a reg to change all multiple -- to result in only one -? Thanks Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5315 (20100726) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335720 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Regex Help
troublemaker :D On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote: http://www.cftagstore.com/tags/cfreextract.cfm :) -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Regex Help I want to replace any occurrence of multiple -- in string so the entire string only contains one - in a row after filtering. Something like this does (sort of): #Replacelist(#mayvar#,-,,---,--,-,-,-,-)# But with regex more like: #ReReplace(#myvar#,--,-,ALL)# How do I write a reg to change all multiple -- to result in only one -? Thanks Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5315 (20100726) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335724 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Extracting part of a string (part 2)
For that specific string, \$(\S+) seems to work. The \S is any character that is not a whitespace character, so it'd work for $400.01 as well. \$(\w+) should also return the same result. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Che Vilnonis ch...@asitv.com wrote: I also have a regex I can't seem to get right and could you some help. Take the following string... buick 322 engine (76023) $400 (dallas) How would I extract just the price ($400) without the dollar sign? TIA, Che ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335546 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best conference?
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Andrew Clarke s...@clarke.ca wrote: I posted a similar question on cf-community a week or two ago, but it sort of got buried and only got one response (thanks ** Private ** for your response). I understand this is probably a loaded question, but what are peoples' opinions on the best conference to attend? I've been developing ColdFusion apps for about 13 years now and have most of the features that have been around for a while down pretty well. However, I have only one client using CF8, and am just in the process of installing CF9 for my first client right now. I'd love to especially learn how people are using some of the new features in CF9, as well as Railo. They've all got their pros and cons. I think CFUnited has the widest variety of content (from beginner to somewhat advanced), and it's certainly one of the biggest CF-based conferences (probably second only to MAX). Lots of networking and good times with friends. Based on what you've said, I'd look at cf.Objective(). It's a smaller conference with more advanced topics, and probably more that you'd find relevant. While conferences like NCDevCon may feature Flash/Flex etc, you shouldn't let that dissuade you. As long as there are enough sessions specific to what you want to learn, doesn't really matter how many other sessions there might be, or how off-topic they are. And as far as NCDevCon goes, you can't beat the price. IMO, regardless of which one you may choose to attend, it'll be worthwhile. Of the conferences that I've been fortunate enough to get to (CFUnited, cf.Objective(), and MAX), it's evident that the folks behind them make every effort to ensure that it's both a valuable and fun experience. - Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335319 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ordering by lowest price (across two columns)
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Mike Little m...@nzsolutions.co.nz wrote: hi guys, slightly off-topic... my product table contains normalprice and saleprice (not really named this but as an example). i wish to give the customer the ability to order by lowest to highest price taking into account both the normal and sale price. not quite sure how to achieve this using an efficient mysql query. I'm no SQL guru (as the SQL gurus that I've worked with will tell you), but off the top of my head, a CASE statement that compares saleprice and normalprice, and sets a column based on the lowest one: SELECT name, description, normalprice, saleprice, CASE WHEN normalprice saleprice THEN normalprice ELSE saleprice END AS orderbyprice FROM tablename ORDER BY orderbyprice untested... but something like that? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335067 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Shopping carts
No, the fact that it's not elitist makes it not elitist. Dave's analogy about the auto mechanic and the tools was spot-on (as per usual). If you want to do a job, you're expected to have the tools to do the job. I also agree 100% with what many have said about this particular client. I've dealt with those toxic clients before, because like yourself, I couldn't afford to turn anybody away. I learned right quick that often, it's better (and more profitable) to -not- take on certain clients. I can virtually assure you that things with this particular client are not going to end well. Been there, done that. It's never ended well. I feel for your situation. We just made a move as well, and we're hurting from it. I'm also freelancing right now and I definitely feel the pressure to put food on our table. We're a single income family of 5, and it's definitely challenging at times. But the fact of the matter remains... it's not an elitist attitude to expect that somebody who wants to perform a particular job will have, or be able to obtain, the tools necessary. In all sincerity, I wish you the best of luck and hope things work out in the end. But sniping at folks who are only trying to offer assistance, even if you don't agree with their perspective, isn't going to get you out of the hole any faster. If anything, it'll only make it worse :\ On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Actually, I dont want to do freelance work, but I am forced to do so. And just because you share his attitude doesn't make it not elitist. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:15 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF Shopping carts I pushed that...he doesn't like PayPal for some reason...he is under the impression that people don't like it. Not something that I have ever heard...but he has that stuck in his head. I have suggested several other free options. It's not decision unfortunately. I even suggested that he use café press for now until; he gets some sales (He wants to do a t-shirt site...I questioned whether or not this would even take off as he would be a really small fish in a huge ocean of t-shirt sites). He insists on doing his own site...so finding a good cart to integrate into this that he can afford is the difficulty...which is why I asked here and instead of getting advice from folks like Sean, I was told that if I can't afford the carts out there for 200, I shouldn't even be a developer. So if you really want to point a finger, I was just defending myself. This is all so screwed up, it's not even wrong. 1. $200 for any software development product is on the extreme low-end of the scale. If you can't afford to buy the tools you need to do a job, you shouldn't do the job. This doesn't reflect on your skills as a developer, etc, it's just a fact of life. That's all that Sean was saying, and he's absolutely right, and you're absolutely wrong to label it as elitist BS. There's a cost of entry into any field that goes beyond your own skills. If you want to be a freelance programmer, you have to buy a certain amount of stuff, like a computer. If you want to be a car mechanic, you have to buy tools. Etc, etc, etc. So, I point the finger at you for mischaracterizing Sean's response. I'm sorry you don't have the money you need to do this job, but there you go. And, you have a history of doing this with Sean specifically, and it's out of line, and I think you should stop. 2. You're working for nothing for a client that's going to make nothing. You have bigger problems than the cost of an ecommerce package. If your client wants specific functionality that's in a COTS package, he needs to buy the package, not you. If it's too rich for his taste, that's his problem, not yours. But you're just wasting your time doing this work. Clients like this, who aren't willing to pay for what they want, or can't pay for what they want, they're toxic and you should avoid them. This guy wants Amazon functionality on a Paypal budget, and you're not going to be able to make him happy, which leads to ... 3. You're using the wrong tools for the job. If you want to do low-margin work, you need to use low-margin tools. You know, that might mean PHP, because there's a much larger FOSS ecosystem around PHP than CF. CF simply has never really aimed at that market. Frankly, if I were you and I wanted to go after that range of clients, I'd drop CF like a stone. Not because PHP is better, of course, and I wouldn't like it, but it makes sense in that market. I'm sorry for being harsh, if you perceive this as harsh, but the facts are what they are. I do wish you good luck in your future development endeavors, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small
Re: Facebook Connect and coldfusion
Reading between the lines, I think Jeff might want you to share some code :) On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: Kris, Would you be willing to share some code? I'm having a hell of a time interfacing with the API We're using FBConnect for a site in development now. It works fine, no problem. Except when FB does something stupid and breaks the API. Which happens every couple of weeks. Cheers, Kris ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334773 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion
True, but still kinda have to appreciate the irony :) On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: Does not seem to be a valid site, more of a traffic troll, I think. :-( -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion It's just a resource site sitting on a CF shared host. Now if it was php.net that was running on ColdFusion, that would be something to get interested in. Andy On 21 June 2010 21:15, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. Looks like one of those generic directory/information sites where someone pulled a bunch of stuff off Wikipedia and embedded Google ads to generate revenue. There's likely 1,000 other sites running on the same platform and has very little to do with promoting PHP outside of getting some ad clicks. A reverse IP check at www.yougetsignal.com shows a whole bunch of these types of sites and other questionable material hosted on the same IP block. They all appear to be CF as well. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334708 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 Developer Edition - IP Addresses
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know how to edit the allowed allocated IP addresses for the CF9 developer edition license? AFAIK, not configurable. The allowed addresses are 127.0.0.1, and whatever the first 2 addresses that hit the server are. You can reset them by restarting the CF service, but you can't configure which 2 external addresses they are. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334593 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Comma delimited list
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bill Hartley b...@whdservices.com wrote: I am trying to display feature codes from a comma delimited list inside a database. Here is my setup: Table: Listings has a column called FEATURE_CODES and example of the data in this column is B01,E09,E20,G12,J07 Then I have another table inside the same database called FeatureCodes the data inside this table is arranged FEATURE_CODE FEATURE_DESCRIPTION B01 Sold As Is E09 Frame and Stucco and so on I need to display the feature description from the FeatureCodes table on the display page by reading the feature_codes from the listing table Agreed with the previous responses. If it's at all an option, I'd normalize the table and get rid of the comma-delimited lists. If you can't do that, another route could be using a query or sub-query with IN: assuming variable codes is 'B01,E09,E20,G12,J07'... first you'll want to qualify the list elements with single quotes: cfset codes = listQualify( codes , ' ) // note that's a single quote enclosed in double-quotes SELECT { columns } FROM { tablename } WHERE feature_code IN ( cfqueryparam value=#codes# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar list=true /) That, of course, assumes you can make two distinct queries (the first would actually get the value assigned to the variable codes). You may be able to massage it into a subquery and do it all in one swell foop. Something like: SELECT { columns } FROM { tablename } WHERE feature_code IN ( SELECT feature_codes FROM listings WHERE { where condition here } ) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334105 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Need CF help- is anyone available
You'd have a greater likelihood of having more sets of eyes on it (and thus a greater likelihood of getting a solution) if you were to just post the question/code to the list. IMO, of course :) On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:47 PM, cfcom cf...@aceligent.com wrote: Having serious problem with a piece of code Is there anyone who could take a look Been racking my head on this all day Please contact off list And thank you in advane ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:333989 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion 9 Windows vs Linux
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Beru beru.b...@gmail.com wrote: Sad... On 23 May 2010 20:41, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: THREE CHEERS FOR THAT Now that both sides have been equally represented, how about we move on? :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:333947 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: idea paint
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.comwrote: It's called spam. Nah, Brian's a CF developer. I suspect he was just trying to share what he thought was kind of a cool idea. Might have been less misunderstood if he prefaced the link with, hey, this is kind of a cool idea... :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:333920 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is there a way to do an arbitrary sort order on a specific cell?
case statement in the ORDER BY should work. See http://www.devx.com/tips/Tip/17288 On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Les Mizzell lesm...@bellsouth.net wrote: Is there a way to do an arbitrary sort order on a specific cell? For example, let's say I have a cell colour. Possible values: 1. blue 2. cyan 3. green 4. orange 5. red 6. silver I want to sort on this cell, BUT, I want the order to show all red first blue second green third ... blah ... __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5115 (20100514) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:333702 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Help With CF8 Regular Expressions
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:34 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM, James Holmes wrote: I hope you have your flameproof suit handy :-P Ah, the cleansing fire of a good library battle. :) It's hot in here. Normally I sleep in this thing, but if nobody's interested, the suit is going on the hook. Oh dear God please let him be wearing something under that suit... -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:96 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Remove multple EXTRA spaces from string
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:26 PM, UXB Internet denn...@uxbinternet.comwrote: I am having a senior moment and can't for the life of me figure this dumb thing out. I am trying to remove all extra spaces from a string but leave the single space there. Example: var=this has many extra spaces and return with this has many extra spaces var myString = this has many extra spaces; myString = rereplace( myString , \s+ , ' ' , 'all' ); -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:333113 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bind / CFC Question
I haven't done much with binding, but can possibly offer some advice... Presumably, you have an existing method that returns a query with all of the columns from the table. You can go one of two routes that I can think of... 1) create a new method that only queries the table for the single column you're looking for. You can even get creative and pass in the column name as an argument so that you can return a specific column. 2) create a new remote method that calls your existing method (the one that returns all columns), and within that new method, do a QoQ (or if the query only returns a single record, you can do myQuery.columnName[1] and return that. The only drawback here is that you're still running a SELECT * when all you really need is one specific column. But if you're only returning a single record, the overhead shouldn't be noticeable. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Chad Baloga cbal...@gmail.com wrote: I am fairly new to CFCs and binding and have only used query returns with 1 column. I was wondering how to bind to a cfinput with a certain column when my query is selecting * from a table. Thanks ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332846 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Regex to remove script and style blocks
See http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec0a38f-7ffb.html for the flag to trigger multi-line capabilities in regex. (?m)script\b[^]*.*?/script should do it. cfset newString = rereplaceNoCase( string , '(?m)script\b[^]*.*?/script' , '' , 'all' ) On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:29 PM, UXB Internet denn...@uxbinternet.comwrote: I am at a loss as to how to structure a regex to remove a JavaScript block from a file using CF5. What I am trying to do is remove the script and everything including and between /script. something like this: script language=JavaScript !-- JavaScript code here // -- /script I have tried this but it give me and error: Bad regular expression cfset Newstring = ReReplaceNoCase(string,script.*?.*?/script,, all) Assistance would be appreciated. Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A Website Design Hosting Company P.O. Box 6028 Wolcott, CT 06716 203-879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332688 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: test
this one? http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332658 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:07 AM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, This is a a test message. My previous two posts are not displayed on house of fusion ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332702 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFDocs
Not familiar with that site. But you could always use http://www.cfquickdocs.com or http://cfmldocs.com/ , both of which contain CF9 docs On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Dave Sueltenfuss dsueltenf...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know if the creator of cfdocs.org has plans to update the site to use the latest versions of CF Documentation It's still pointing to CF7'd documents ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332710 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
So there's no chance of -not- hosting it with GoDaddy? 'cuz I bet that'd help a bit. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Les Irvin les.cft...@gmail.com wrote: Help me, I think I'm falling... here's an odd request for a certain individual. Joni's official site is hosted on a GoDaddy server (don't ask) running CF8. They keep shutting it down for overloading the server - asking me to streamline the code to avoid continued violations. I'm sure my code sucks, but it's been on other servers without issue from those hosts. Would anyone out there, perhaps a Joni fan, volunteer to take a look at some code, shake their head in disgust at the awfulness of it, and help me rewrite inefficient sections? This feels a bit like walking naked through a crowd, but hey In return, I'll put a link to whatever site you want in the footer of every page, and of course you'll have the satisfaction of helping out all the Joni fans across the globe. The site gets about 2500 unique visitors a day. http://jonimitchell.com Thanks in advance, Les ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332718 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: using cfhttp
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Orlini, Robert rorl...@hwwilson.com wrote: Hello, Is there a way to use cfhttp to see if a site is down? Does it involve using #HTMLCodeFormat(cfhttp.FileContent)# to see if a 403 error is downloaded? check the cfhttp.filestatus to see if it contains the string 200 -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332639 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: using cfhttp
d'oH! yeah, cfhttp.statusCode. not cfhttp.fileStatus. :) On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Kevin Pepperman chorno...@gmail.com wrote: Using cfhttp will return a cfhttp.statusCode, which if is 200 OK you know the URL has resolved correct. -- /Kevin Pepperman They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332641 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: using cfhttp
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote: Additionally you can make the request a little lighter by just making a HEAD request instead of a get or post. cfhttp url=http://www.andymatthews.net; method=head/cfhttp It doesn't return the entire body of the site in the filecontent key. Nice! I did not know that. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332645 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: smush.it
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: I just tried out Yahoo's smush.it for image compression. Even on images that were HAND optmized in photoshop, this still knocked off another 5%. Has anyone used smush.it with coldfusion? Is there a way to send images to the server and bring em back into you app? http://developer.yahoo.com/yslow/smushit/faq.html#faq_api IS THERE A *SMUSH.IT* API I CAN ACCESS SO THAT MY IMAGES ARE AUTOMATICALLY SMUSHED WHEN THEY ARE PUBLISHED? The API currently is not available for public use. We are working towards making this publicly accessible . I'd imagine that when/if they open up the public API, it should be easy enough to do. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Team is on Twitter
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Adrocknaphobia adrocknapho...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry for the change-up, but we've switched twitter accounts to @CFBuilder (donated by an awesome community member, Dale Fraser)! Follow us at: http://www.twitter.com/CFBuilder It only costs $299 to follow the @CFBuilder account, but we will retweet @Flash_Builder with no extra charge! ZING! (too soon?) That's ridiculous. You created that twitter account on top of Twitter's existing infrastructure. No way did you put the effort in to justify that price. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Heh... I know I did my part to contribute to the spiraling thread of death, but I agree. We've long passed the point of diminishing returns here and seem to be stuck in a loop. Somebody... anybody... feel free to call me an asshole so Michael shuts down the thread due to personal attacks :) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:25 AM, G Allen R Souliere al...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Though I'm not a particularly religious man, AMEN! Roger Austin wrote: This whole discussion has gotten tedious and needs to go off-line. Adobe software has never been cheap. Acrobat, Photoshop, etc. People purchase the packages because they need them and have no other choices, or because they believe they are a good value for their situation. I don't plan on purchasing CFBuilder any time soon since I don't believe it is ready at version 1. I have been using CFEclipse lately and it does almost everything that I need. I may change my mind later when corporate IT allows us to use CF9. Or, maybe Josh Adams will convince me tonight at the TACFUG event in RTP. -- http://www.linkedin.com/pub/roger-austin/8/a4/60 http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek http://www.misshunt.com/ Home of the Clean/Dirty Magnet http://www.ncdevcon.com/ TACFUG 2010 Conference in North Carolina ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332450 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: Leave it to Dave to reply with something helpful, vs. calling Charlie the scum-ridden afterbirth of a syphilistic-cow with hemorrhoids (I heard he has sex with goats, too!), or some such. Oh ffs. Y'know, you do something one time... ONE time *sigh* :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332457 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I don't think the overall number of CF developers matters. CFBuilder isn't really aimed at -every- CF developer (I don't think... this, of course, is purely conjecture on my part). Not too long ago, Ben F. blogged that only a relatively small number of CF developers even use CFCs. Let's say it's 20% (i think that's actually higher than the % Ben had suggested). So 80% of CF developers are 5 taggers. They're not going to see the value in most of the features of CF Builder. So... I'd say the 2% might be pretty close to what they've actually targeted. And given that they may be targeting a very small percentage of their user base, it wouldn't make sense to price it too low. And since I got sucked back into the convo (I'm an asshole), I'll also say that I don't agree with the assertion that Adobe thinks CF Builder is worth $50. I'd argue that they're bundling it at a discount and considering the loss an investment in attempting to cross-promote between CF and Flex communities. If they convert 'x'% of Flex developers (who currently don't use CF on the server side) to CF, the short-term loss turns into a long term gain. (again, IMO). On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: No its not Dave. I think the proof will be in the pudding, Adobe has 800k ColdFusion developers. So that means if they have it priced right they should get around 40% plus buying the program. My forecast is that they will be lucky to reach 2% in sales of all those ColdFusion Developers. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 2:43 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! Is this really the first time you've encountered product bundling? Do you really think that the additional cost of a bundled product translates directly into the value of the product if sold separately? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332465 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote: Charlie Griefer wrote: Bundling it with FlashBuilder may be their way of trying to increase the uptake of the language as a whole and thus ultimately sell more server licenses. By doing this, they're potentially introducing CF to PHP developers, Java developers, etc. I have to say that I don't agree with that last statement. FlashBuilder 4 (Standard Edition) with CFBuilder costs $299, and FlashBuilder 4 (Standard Edition) without CFBuilder costs $249. So for an existing PHP/Flex developer who has no use for CF, do you think they're going to pay $299 to get an extra IDE for a language they don't use, or spend $50 less and just get the IDE they need? No, I think you're right in that scenario. A Flex developer out to upgrade to FlashBuilder -Standard- isn't going to go, Oh... I can spend an extra $50 and buy ColdFusion Builder instead, which contains FlashBuilder. Sure :) But the FlexBuilder 3 Professional folks who are going to upgrade to FlashBuilder 4 are going to get ColdFusion Builder as part of that upgrade. They're the PHP developers, Java developers, etc to whom I was referring. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332108 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Yeah, assuming you have an interest in FlashBuilder. There was no way Adobe was going to please everybody (well, not without outright giving it away... which wouldn't have pleased the shareholders). For those who are interested in FlashBuilder (and I'm one of 'em), this is a pretty smokin' deal. For those who aren't... I can definitely see their point. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: It's bundled with FlashBuilder 4 which is nice. That's actually a pretty decent price. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: 299.00? WTF? What the heck is Adobe smoking? Looks like its back to CFEclipse for me! Eric -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:adrocknapho...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:46 AM To: cf-talk Subject: ColdFusion Builder Released! The subject says it all. If you haven't looked at ColdFusion Builder since the last public beta, you should check out the final release. There have been about 4 months of performance enhancements, bug fixes and tweaks since then. You can download a 60-day trial of ColdFusion Builder from Adobe.com. http://bit.ly/TryBolt -Adam ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Considering that I don't need flash...no it's not. If flash is the cost, then they should offer a version without flash builder. I think it is an outrageous price for a plugin. That really depends on how much time it saves you. I picked on 'em in the cfeclipse list... but if oXygen can charge $350-$450 for a plugin that does XML... There will be people that think $299 is too much. Had it been $199, or even $99, I guarantee you there'd still be people who would have thought it was too much. As I said in my initial response... there's no way Adobe (or anybody else) is going to please everybody. If enough people are put off by the price tag, then Adobe won't have much of a choice but to lower it. Gotta sit back and see how it goes ;) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331967 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: There was no way Adobe was going to please everybody (well, not without outright giving it away... which wouldn't have pleased the shareholders). Even if they gave it away it's still pretty much useless for my workflow. I need a lightweight editor which has some basic knowledge of ColdFusion and can open/edit/save files anywhere, not a full-blown IDE with integrated debugging support and a lock-in to their project model. If I ever have a need for a full-on IDE then I would say $299 isn't so bad, but as it stands Adobe has made CF Builder pretty much impossible for me to use. The fact that it doesn't fit your particular workflow also falls into the There was no way Adobe was going to please everybody bucket :) If you happen to be on a Mac, I'd highly recommend TextMate as that lightweight editor which has some basic knowledge of ColdFusion. I've been using it for a few months now, and I'm pretty happy with it overall. Definitely lightweight, and has bundles (plugins) for both ColdFusion and Railo. But hey... we digress. This is the coming out party for CFBuilder! So to address your CFBuilder related points... I agree that $299 is not a bad price. It's a great price if you need FlashBuilder... but even if not... if it makes you more productive for a few hours, you've recovered your investment. Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331978 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:33 PM, mark m...@mdprofinish.com wrote: You guys are a bunch of whiners. I don't know if I'll buy ColdFusion Builder yet, but if I do...$300 is cheap, for any software. What do you guys want?! Free? How much work do you do for free? Don't buy it...fine, but don't whine about $300. $329.95 for Microsoft Office... Now some say that's over priced but look at what you get... For me personally, none of those products within the Office Suite are going to make me money. $299 on CFBuilder -and- FlashBuilder? How long would it take me to bang out either a CF site or a Flex site that would recover my $299 investment? To Mark's point... we use these tools to help us make money. Yet there seem to be a lot of people who get pretty indignant over the fact that we're expected to pay money for these tools (as if they were magically conceived by fairy dust and unicorn farts). -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: The issue is that it is a plugin, not a full IDE...Eclipse already provides the IDE and that is free. If this was a package that they developed on there own like DW...then that would be different. Even so, they should be encouraging developers, since we are the ones doing their marketing work for them so that we will encourage our employers and clients to use CF. I'm going to go ahead and disagree with the fact that it being a plugin for an existing framework should have any bearing on the cost. The cost has to do with Adobe being a publicly traded company needing to generate revenue and hopefully post a profit. The cost would therefore more likely be based on the amount of effort (time/money) involved in developing (research, planning, developing, testing, marketing) the product. I build web sites on existing frameworks (Model-Glue or ColdBox). I don't charge less money. I charge for the time I spend, and the rate is something that I calculate that makes the time I spend working (and away from my family) worth the effort. By building it on top of Eclipse, Adobe is giving you the flexibility to extend the IDE to fit your needs by installing any number of the hundreds of existing plugins. I think that's a good move for most (again, bearing in mind you can't please everybody). I also think their move to bundle CFBuilder with FlashBuilder -is- encouraging developers. It's encouraging me to make the foray into Flex, which is something that I've wanted to do for a while now. It will likely also encourage Flex developers (who may be using PHP on the server) to take a look at ColdFusion. I get that it doesn't encourage you, and I'm genuinely sorry to hear that. Again tho, it falls into the bucket of ain't gonna please everybody. I think these types of discussions in general would be far more productive if people would keep that in mind. It may not work for you... but it may very well work for a majority of others. Saying, as Justin did, it doesn't work for me is far less provoking than, man, Adobe WTF? What are you guys smoking?. Again, if it doesn't work for you (and by you, I mean anybody who shares your sentiment), and cfeclipse does... I'd suggest that you be grateful that a project like cfeclipse exists. It was suggested on their mailing list that those who fit into that category maybe take some fo the $ that they're -not- spending on CFBuilder and donate it to cfeclipse. Or, as was also suggested on their list, donate your time in helping out the project (doesn't have to be with actually coding the IDE, but maintaining the web site, etc). -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331991 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: On 3/22/2010 1:35 PM, Eric Nicholas Sweeney wrote: Amen Chad - - I would like to See Flex in there as well. Flash Builder is the new name of what used to be called 'Flex' Builder. Does Flash builder include Coldfusion Builder, I'm confused on that one... The premium edition does. Adobe Flash Builder 4 Premium Edition adds professional testing tools, including profilers, network monitoring, and unit testing support, and includes a license for Adobe ColdFusion® Builder software. http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/buy/ -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332025 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
You lost me, Jake :) There is no edition of FlashBuilder that I see priced at $299. There's standard ($249), which does not include CFBuilder, and Premium, which is priced at $699 and dies include CFBuilder. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: The standard edition does as well. The one priced at $299. There is one priced at $249 which does not include Coldfusion Builder On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: On 3/22/2010 1:35 PM, Eric Nicholas Sweeney wrote: Amen Chad - - I would like to See Flex in there as well. Flash Builder is the new name of what used to be called 'Flex' Builder. Does Flash builder include Coldfusion Builder, I'm confused on that one... The premium edition does. Adobe Flash Builder 4 Premium Edition adds professional testing tools, including profilers, network monitoring, and unit testing support, and includes a license for Adobe ColdFusion® Builder software. http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/buy/ -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332031 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Ah, that's the $699 Premium Edition. The $299 is upgrade pricing. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-USview=ols_prodcategory=/Applications/FlashBuilderPremiumdistributionMethod=FULLnr=0#store=OLS-USloc=en_usview=ols_prodcategory=/Applications/FlashBuilderPremium On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote: You lost me, Jake :) There is no edition of FlashBuilder that I see priced at $299. There's standard ($249), which does not include CFBuilder, and Premium, which is priced at $699 and dies include CFBuilder. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: The standard edition does as well. The one priced at $299. There is one priced at $249 which does not include Coldfusion Builder On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: On 3/22/2010 1:35 PM, Eric Nicholas Sweeney wrote: Amen Chad - - I would like to See Flex in there as well. Flash Builder is the new name of what used to be called 'Flex' Builder. Does Flash builder include Coldfusion Builder, I'm confused on that one... The premium edition does. Adobe Flash Builder 4 Premium Edition adds professional testing tools, including profilers, network monitoring, and unit testing support, and includes a license for Adobe ColdFusion® Builder software. http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/buy/ -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332036 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey mary...@cfwebstore.comwrote: The cost has to do with Adobe being a publicly traded company needing to generate revenue and hopefully post a profit. The cost would therefore more likely be based on the amount of effort (time/money) involved in developing (research, planning, developing, testing, marketing) the product. A lot of us hoped they would see that selling it a lower price point would help to increase the uptake of the language as a whole and thus ultimately sell more server licenses. For a large company like Adobe, profit is what the company makes as a whole, not what one product alone brings in. Microsoft learned this a long time ago and has used free and low-priced items to increase their revenue in other areas, and it's certainly a large reason for their success. Bundling it with FlashBuilder may be their way of trying to increase the uptake of the language as a whole and thus ultimately sell more server licenses. By doing this, they're potentially introducing CF to PHP developers, Java developers, etc. Everyone who uses Flex but doesn't use CF on the server side. I'm not exactly sure that selling it at a lower price point would have the same effect. It'd appeal to those of us who currently use ColdFusion... we'd conceivably be able to buy the product for $199 instead of $299. Ok... but I don't see where that would necessarily increase the uptake of the language as a whole. I also think their move to bundle CFBuilder with FlashBuilder -is- encouraging developers. It's encouraging me to make the foray into Flex, which is something that I've wanted to do for a while now. Not if the price discourages me from even buying the product in the first place. But you're already a ColdFusion developer. If I wanted to buy FlexBuilder 3 last year, I'd have paid $299 (i think... it was certainly in that neighborhood). So we know that Flex developers are willing to pay that amount. They're going to pay the same thing this year, and get ColdFusion Builder. Adobe is pretty much giving it away to the Flex community in hopes of doing what you say... increase the uptake of the language as a whole. We CF folk.. we pay a little bit more than the $199 we hoped it would be, and get FlashBuilder. So not only is Adobe conceivably introducing CF to other developers, but it's conceivably introducing Flex/FlashBuilder to us. I'm sorry that people think $300 is too expensive. I know that expensive is a subjective term, and while some people can whip out their credit cards and order a copy without a second thought, some of us will have to save up for it. But as has been pointed out... if you use the product for a year (and it really shouldn't even take a year), how much time are you going to save... how much more productive could you possibly be? Maybe the answer is, not enough. In which case... there are alternatives (CFEclipse and others). For me, I think it'd be enough (I'm currently using TextMate on Mac as my IDE... so I don't really have a horse in this race, so to speak). I've used the beta of CFBuilder tho, and I can see where it'd save me time. I run multiple CF8 and CF9 instances on my dev machine. Generally one at a time... not having to jump out of the IDE, into terminal, stop one service, start the next, back to the IDE... instead I can just open up the servers pane in CFBuilder, stop one service, start the other. Code insight, extensible via writing extensions in CF (-not- Java)... I think I'd make my $300 back in under a year, and probably end the year being up a few bucks. I get that it's not going to be for everybody. It's not going to work for everybody. I just wish folks could be more pragmatic about it and say, yeah, it doesn't work for me... but I can see where they're going with it. Charlie -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: And that's all well and good. If I could develop a plug-in for Eclipse, I'd try to sell it. Making money is *not* evil. Overcharging customers (which is the underlying issue driving people's comments, I believe) is... They're selling CFBuilder -and- FlashBuilder for the price they used to charge (just a year ago) for FlexBuilder (which is now FlashBuilder). They're essentially saying, here... here's the product we sold last year, at the price we sold it at. Oh, and we're throwing in ColdFusion Builder. And that would be overcharging how...? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332045 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: And, again, Adobe is free to charge whatever they like, but it would be nice to feel like Adobe wanted to help it's community thrive by contributing to its success without always charging so much to enable that success. But they're not charging so much. They're effectively giving away an IDE (you can think of it as giving FlashBuilder to CF developers or giving CFBuilder to Flex developers). In doing so they're cross-marketing and stand to grow either the CF community or the Flex community or both, which could in turn help either or both of the communities thrive. I understand that this doesn't fit in well with what -you- need specifically or what -you- want specifically. That doesn't make it wrong. I think long-term this is the more effective strategy. Releasing CFBuilder for $100 to the existing developers would make the existing developers happy (kinda... I'm sure somebody would still complain). But exactly would that help its community thrive? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332051 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Oh, and to address the complaints about how this isn't helping the community to grow or to thrive... it's free for educational purposes. I think that will go a lot further towards growing the community and helping it thrive than it would be to give it away to existing developers. Adobe may actually have given this some thought (gasp)! :) On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: And, again, Adobe is free to charge whatever they like, but it would be nice to feel like Adobe wanted to help it's community thrive by contributing to its success without always charging so much to enable that success. But they're not charging so much. They're effectively giving away an IDE (you can think of it as giving FlashBuilder to CF developers or giving CFBuilder to Flex developers). In doing so they're cross-marketing and stand to grow either the CF community or the Flex community or both, which could in turn help either or both of the communities thrive. I understand that this doesn't fit in well with what -you- need specifically or what -you- want specifically. That doesn't make it wrong. I think long-term this is the more effective strategy. Releasing CFBuilder for $100 to the existing developers would make the existing developers happy (kinda... I'm sure somebody would still complain). But exactly would that help its community thrive? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332052 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Which one was the rational one? I missed it :D On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: The overcharging customers comment was more a reflection on the feelings that the $300 cost has generated, rather than a comment on actual intent or behavior. We've all been trying to have two arguments simultaneously...one rational and one subjective. Tough to do... -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:p...@oakcitygraphics.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released! Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as overcharging customers. If you think it costs too much, you don't buy it, or you find a cheaper product. That's how the free market works. There are some exceptions to this, for example in the realm of health care, where you may need a prescription drug to stay alive. But software definitely is not one of the exceptions. -- Josh -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:50 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released! And that's all well and good. If I could develop a plug-in for Eclipse, I'd try to sell it. Making money is *not* evil. Overcharging customers (which is the underlying issue driving people's comments, I believe) is... I hope Adobe had to pay a hefty licensing fee to the Eclipse Foundation to build on the platform...that would be great, to see Adobe contributing something to the community that feeds them... -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! As just an FYI, I believe commercial products on Eclipse are part of their plan: http://www.eclipse.org/org/ A unique aspect of the Eclipse community and the role of the Eclipse Foundation is the active marketing and promotion of Eclipse projects and wider Eclipse ecosystem. A healthy vibrant ecosystem that extends beyond the Eclipse open source community to include things like commercial products based on Eclipse, other open source projects using Eclipse, training and services providers, magazines and online portals, books, etc, are all key to the success of the Eclipse community. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: By this argument it means no one could charge for Eclipse plugins. There are quite a few very decent, very well done Eclipse plugins that are not free. Shoot, by this argument no one should sell work they develop on Railo, since Railo is free. I'm sure you didn't imply that, but I think it is great the Eclipse plugin allows for this type of market. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332055 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
I'd go to another dealership and buy a different car. If the car I wanted -only- came with all the options, I'd say, Hm... ok. I can pony up for the in-dash GPS, the alpine sound system with the bose speakers, the rear camera, the massaging seats (etc), when all I really want is a car with the massaging seats or I can go buy a different car with just the massaging seats. Life's like that. You can choose to say, OK, I want this badly enough that I'll pay the price, or you say, I want it, but not that badly. Then you move on. Life ain't gonna cater to you (or to me or to anyone else). The dealership's selling that car with all the options and they're doing it for a reason... right or wrong... and their choice to do so may end up getting them a different result than what they were hoping for. But that's their choice, just as we have to make our choices. I choose to believe that Adobe put some thought into their approach. Again, I definitely see that it isn't an approach that's going to make everybody happy. No approach would. But I see that even though it may not cater to me and what I need... it could potentially serve to meet their needs (cross marketing, growing their communities, etc). Agree or disagree with it, I respect the choice and hope it works out. Because if it does, we all stand to win. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: What would you think if you went to buy a car, but the dealership refused to sell it to you unless you bought every option available? I wouldn't be too happy about being forced to buy a bundle to get the one product I wanted. -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:55 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: And that's all well and good. If I could develop a plug-in for Eclipse, I'd try to sell it. Making money is *not* evil. Overcharging customers (which is the underlying issue driving people's comments, I believe) is... They're selling CFBuilder -and- FlashBuilder for the price they used to charge (just a year ago) for FlexBuilder (which is now FlashBuilder). They're essentially saying, here... here's the product we sold last year, at the price we sold it at. Oh, and we're throwing in ColdFusion Builder. And that would be overcharging how...? -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Lets say you drive a ford and I give you a piston for a Chevy for free. Unless you happen to also have a Chevy with the engine that fits, I basically gave you a useless piston...but it was free... So to say this bundle is beneficial to all is a misstatement. OK. Show me where I (or anyone in this or any other thread) said this bundle is beneficial to all. Take your time and look hard. They should offer other options. That would be the right thing to do. The right thing to do is highly subjective. For you, it might be the right thing to do, and as I've said (repeatedly), I understand that. This is the direction that Adobe's chosen to take. And while I get that it's not beneficial for everybody, I see where there is the potential for it to be beneficial by way of cross-promoting CF to Flex people and Flex to CF people. That, to me, doesn't seem like the wrong thing. All I'm asking people to realize is that because it's not right for them does not make it wrong. There is no scenario under which it would be right for everybody. It's the same reason why many of us stopped using Dreamweaver. While DW is a great package, it has a lot of features that are completely useless to us as developers, while Home site or Eclipse was just right as far as an environment for developers as opposed to designers. If I don't use flash or flex, what is the value of Flash builder to me? (hint: $0) I stopped using DW because I found it to be bloated, sluggish, and unresponsive. I've heard that it's gotten better, but I've not had the opportunity to try it out lately. To you, the value of FlashBuilder is $0. I can't say, I get that any more than I already have. To others, there's value. Perhaps I've been wanting to try my hand at Flex, but wasn't prepared to shell out the $ for FlexBuilder/FlashBuilder. Now I've got a reason. There's some value. So again... no value to -you- specifically != no value. Considering that as far as CF is concerned, we are the marketing team since they can't seem to have the drive to market it themselves, making us happy is a good idea. We are the ones that suggest CF to clients and employers. We are the ones that push for upgrades. Adobe makes lots money from our actions. I agree that there have been issues with marketing CF. For years I'd have loved to have seen a CF ad in a trade magazine that promoted CF to developers of other languages. But do you not see the marketing effort here? Cross promoting FlashBuilder to CF developers, and CF to Flex developers (who may be PHP or Java or Ruby people)? There's value in that effort. It may not work, but I applaud the effort. People seem to keep coming back to, Adobe needs to take care of us to grow the community. I don't get that. If they take care of us they keep the community content, but it doesn't grow. We're still going to push CF to clients and employers. You might stop doing so because you're upset about the fact that the CFBuilder pricing isn't catered to your needs... a handful of others might as well. But I'd venture to guess that it won't be a statistically significant amount of people. CF server is the product we use and love. A number of us will shell out the $300 for CFBuilder -and- FlashBuilder. A number of us will continue to use CFEclipse or TextMate or Coda or BBEdit or... I just don't think anybody's getting screwed here. If anything, people are getting something for nothing. If you don't want what they're offering for nothing, you're not getting screwed. You're no worse off than you were yesterday. -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: OK Plain and simple... Why ColdFusion builder should be FR$$! And these clients in return purchase ColdFusion. We are their Marketing in this department. It's in Adobe's best interest to allow ColdFusion Developers access to tools that assist with development on their platform, because it actually costs money to install on the server. I'm not disagreeing that there could be value there. But there could also be value in the cross-promotion efforts. The two are not mutually exclusive, but Adobe chose to go with one over the other. Doesn't make it wrong. Look at Flex, Flash, ActionScript These platforms or whatever are available on X amount of computers around the world, at no additional cost to the client or the developer. Two totally different business models. Look at how Macromedia did it... ColdFusion Report Builder is FREE! Totally separate product that can be used in conjunction with one of products you have to pay to install on a device... ColdFusion Yes, you should pay for anything that needs to interact with their FREE scripting languages, but not the paid for ones! Not sure I see the correlation. But looking back at Macromedia, if memory serves, ColdFusion Studio (when it was an IDE and not a product suite) was not free. So OK, let's look at how Macromedia did it ;) Oh, and ColdFusion Studio was $495. 10 years later we have a better product (arguably... at least in its potential) and it costs $200 less. HomeSite/HomeSite+... also not free. I think those are better correlations than CF Report Builder. Every ColdFusion license should come with 1 Builder License. Hey don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be against this :) But I'm also not going to rail against Adobe because it doesn't. Separate license that can be given out as promotional value to a new developer who is interested in CFML. They in return, start using it, love it, and tell their clients to install it on their server. $$$ Those same developers can download the 60 day trial (that's 2 months... I've downloaded trials that expired in 15 days, well before I even had the chance to give 'em a fair shake). That should be more than enough time to start loving it, telling their clients to use it, and then shelling out the $300 for it (-and- by virtue of doing so gaining exposure to FlashBuilder). Win/win. They don't need to do that with their other languages, it's a given so the fact that you need to purchase a development tool there is a given. ColdFusion, not so much so. This goes back to the ever-present debate about the cost of ColdFusion server versus the cost of other similar platforms. Yes, CF costs. PHP does not, ASP does not, etc. We make up for the cost via rapid application development and in the end, save a metric assload of money. I don't see the IDE argument factoring in here at all. You might stop doing so because you're upset about the fact that the CFBuilder pricing isn't catered to your needs... a handful of others might as well. But I'd venture to guess that it won't be a statistically significant amount of people. CF server is the product we use and love. No, I totally love CFML. Adobe lucked out when they bought Macromedia! I agree. I think most developers will agree. I don't think Adobe's going to lose a lot of existing developers over this, but they stand to gain (many?) more. A number of us will shell out the $300 for CFBuilder -and- FlashBuilder. A number of us will continue to use CFEclipse or TextMate or Coda or BBEdit or... That's misleading. It's $600 ish as you need to purchase FlashBuilder Premium, I don't have Flex Builder currently. It's not misleading. CFBuilder, which costs $299, comes with FlashBuilder standard. From http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/buy/#cfb : Additionally, easily create rich interfaces for your applications with a complimentary copy of Flash Builder 4 Standard /products/flex/buy/ included with ColdFusion Builder. So it's not $600 ish. It's $299 and you get both ColdFusion Builder and FlashBuilder. Which is pretty much saying, Buy FlashBuilder and get CFBuilder for free (or vice-versa). Much better deal than CFStudio for $500 :) -- Charlie Griefer http://charlie.griefer.com/ I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF-based picture-gallery
I guess now it's official :) On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Tony Bentley t...@tonybentley.com wrote: http://cfimagemanager.com/downloads/cfimagemanager_5.7.09.4pm.zip I never officially released it but it does everything you listed. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331803 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites
I do it like this guy does it: http://www.boyzoid.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/12/14/How-Do-You-Set-Up-Your-Development-Environment http://www.boyzoid.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/12/14/How-Do-You-Set-Up-Your-Development-EnvironmentBasically, set up a virtual host thru apache for each site, with a .dev naming convention. So if I have 2 sites that would be www.foo.com and www.bar.com in production, they're foo.dev and bar.dev locally. And yes, that would require entries into your hosts file for foo.dev and bar.dev :) On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Jeff U j...@uspokerdirectory.com wrote: Hello, I've got a new local environment setup and I've got multiple projects in folders off the root. http://localhost:8500/projectAAA/index.cfm http://localhost:8500/projectBBB/index.cfm and so forth These projects then sit production wise on: www.projectAAA.com www.projectBBB.com (note: root level, not in a sub-folder like LOCAL) Is there anyway in my local environment that I can create something like: http://local.projectAAA.com/ hitting the content in the /projectAAA/ folder. I'm hoping I can create all links RELATIVE and that way they work both locally as well as on production with no code changes what-so-ever. I hope I explained that right. I believe my HOSTS file isn't the answer as that can't forward to ports. Suggestions?? only other idea I had was to make links look like: a href=#baseURL#link.cfmlink/a. where: cfif isLocalEnv cfset baseURL = /projectAAA/ cfelse cfset baseURL = / /cfif but that seems like a ugly code solution. Appreciate any help this list can provide! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331146 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites
While I do advocate keeping your development setup as close to the production setup as possible, I've always used Apache locally, even if I was using IIS remotely. Made it easier to do things like multiple sites and setting up the .dev sites as outlined above and in the blog entry i linked above. I believe that nowadays IIS does the multiple sites thing. If that's the case, you should still be able to set up the foo.dev and bar.dev sites in IIS, which gives you the equivalent of top level domains, even though they're subdirectories within your webroot. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jeff U j...@uspokerdirectory.com wrote: Definitely should have included that. WinXP, IIS, CF9 Development Server, used built-in webserver. Prefer to keep it that way for simplicity sake. Thanks guys. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331148 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4