RE: 2007 Web Design Survey

2007-10-19 Thread Rick Walters
From the point of view of the small business sector and for-hire
consulting and design groups, I could see how someone might see cold
fusion and web design work as code monkey tasks.  

But, in your larger, more established IT departments, there are jobs you
can only hold with a dozen years of design experience and the ability to
work in/with large teams. For that matter, there are analyst and
architect level positions which allow companies to recognize the the
value of an experienced eye on a problem.  

Management is an entirely different job requiring minimal technical
expertise if you have the intelligence to hire and trust in the
strengths of the team you build.  Unfortuantely, former techies tend to
become poor managers for the very reason that they know too much about
the task at hand and often step in to micromanage a solution.  I don't
think it should come as a surprize that a good number of technical
people lack the interpersonal skills and patience for politics it
takes to succeed in management.  Moreover, many of these same people
know this about themselves and choose not to have direct reports.

In the end, what we all really do is provide solutions to problems.
Young developers tend to live on the bleeding edge of technology solving
every problem with an untested, new approach.  That's what I'd call a
code monkey.  

Good fortune,
Richard Walters


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2007 Web Design Survey

I happen to know some damn good programmers in their 40's and 50's who
are VERY content just being a code monkey. These guys have
degrees/experience and could get management positions, but they don't
want to. There is nothing wrong with being a worker bee all your life.

Bruce

Crow T. Robot wrote:
 I don't see it so much a goal as a natural progression in one's
career.
 Who wants to be a  50-60 year old code monkey?


   




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Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

2003-09-18 Thread Rick Walters
Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis, one on 
the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions, but I 
don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you know a good 
package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
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RE: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

2003-09-18 Thread Rick Walters
Thanks Bruce,

Corda looks like a pretty cool package.  Looking through the archives I saw references 
to ActivePDF, ReportLab, BigFaceLess, and CFXGraphicsServer.  Keep the suggestions 
coming, if for no other reason that people who research this topic later will have a 
good list to start their decision making process.  Thanks all.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/03 02:27PM 
We have been using Corda's PopCharts here at Baylor Health Care System for
quite some time, and it has proven to work out great over the enterprise. It
has a very robust engine and a fairly intuitive chart builder application.
It works with .NET, CF, Java, ASP very well. You can check it out at
www.corda.com.

HTH

Bruce

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis,
one on the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions,
but I don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you
know a good package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(800) 604-5227 x 

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RE: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

2003-09-18 Thread Rick Walters
To ammend my own post, The ActivePDF, ReportLab, BigFaceLess.. etc, are all PDF/Print 
conversion utilities.  They really don't address creating a graph.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/03 02:57PM 
Thanks Bruce,

Corda looks like a pretty cool package.  Looking through the archives I saw references 
to ActivePDF, ReportLab, BigFaceLess, and CFXGraphicsServer.  Keep the suggestions 
coming, if for no other reason that people who research this topic later will have a 
good list to start their decision making process.  Thanks all.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/03 02:27PM 
We have been using Corda's PopCharts here at Baylor Health Care System for
quite some time, and it has proven to work out great over the enterprise. It
has a very robust engine and a fairly intuitive chart builder application.
It works with .NET, CF, Java, ASP very well. You can check it out at
www.corda.com.

HTH

Bruce

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis,
one on the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions,
but I don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you
know a good package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(800) 604-5227 x 

DaVita Inc.



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RE: Re[2]: Preventing user from going back

2002-05-31 Thread Rick Walters

If the question has turned into: can you secure an application on the
client side? the answer is no.  If a user has access to the security
source code then a way can always be devised to crack it.  

In my own investigation of this same topic I have concluded that the
javascript cache clearing is an iffy solution at best.  The problem my
own group has involves multiple people with different access permissions
using the same public workstation to access patient records.  If a
medical director logs into our reporting site and views a patient and
then logs off, what is to prevent an intern from using the back button
to view the samed cached report?  Javascript can clear the cache, remove
the back button, or force a reload of the page to check permissions. 
But if javascript is off in the browser, then there is nothing to
prevent this.  

A half-way solution we have yet to implement would be to check and see
if javascipt is enabled to complete the login process and then have
javascript close the browser window on logout.  Placing an icon to the
site on the desktop would allow one click access to return to login. 
But, again, this can be sidestepped.  So ultimately the real security
will take place in training.  In training the doctors, we  stress the
importance of closing the window after they access patient records.  And
as backup to this, we keep a server side timestamp of their login
purposefully very short to ensure with reasonable accuracy that even if
they walk away from the workstation logged in, that trying to continue
will re-require login to continue.  But if they leave the browser open
and javascript is not enabled, then the history is open for back
browsing.

Unfortunately, in the end we must conclude the obvious: an internet
browser in a multi user environment is not an ideal security
arangement.  Lucky for us, we also have in house applications that
access patient records locally and which are far more secure.  Further,
the pc's themselves are in a secure environment or in clear view of
staff.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/30/02 04:01PM 
and then all someone has to do is use a program to spoof the referrer
information and their in. The only thing that you as a web programmer
can do
without beating your head against the wall is to make sure you qualify
all
variables passed to the page, check them to make sure they are of the
length
and type you want and then have error checking to test the values. If
you do
that, then it doesn't matter where the information is coming. 

Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
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-Original Message-
From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Preventing user from going back


The only way I have seen to do this, and it was mentioned by someone
earlier, is to only allow for a specific referer.  You would use the
url to
the page that the user 'should' be coming from like this:

cfif cgi.HTTP_REFERER is 'my url'
Allow the template to process
cfelse
move them somewhere else either with cflocation or a script
/cfif

Tim Heald
ACP/CCFD :)
Application Development
www.schoollink.net 

 -Original Message-
 From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Preventing user from going back


 Interesting point. I took it upon myself to test out your question
and
 found that you CAN go back.

 On Thu, 30 May 2002, Mario Martinez wrote:

  What if I view  the file source, erase all the java script code
that is
  bothering me .Save the file into my local harddisk and run the
 browser over
  it
  and try to going back??? .
  regards
  Mario
  - Original Message -
  From: Critz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:18 PM
  Subject: Re[2]: Preventing user from going back
 
 
   oi Alex!!
  
   then you could always do this
  
   noscriptmeta refresh../noscript
  
   seeing  as  how  most  of  us  develop  web  applications and
not
  websitesif
   javascript is disabled, then they don't need to be there..
  
  
   --
   Critz
   Certified Adv. ColdFusion Developer
  
   Crit[s2k] - CF_ChannelOP Network=Efnet Channel=ColdFusion
   
   Thursday, May 30, 2002, 2:07:05 PM, you wrote:
  
   A What happens if I disable javascript?
  
  
   A On Thu, 30 May 2002, Critz wrote:
  
oi Mark!!
   
SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript TYPE=text/javascript
!--
window.history.forward();
file://--
/SCRIPT
   
on the preceding page
   
--
Critz
Certified Adv. ColdFusion Developer
   
Crit[s2k] - CF_ChannelOP Network=Efnet
Channel=ColdFusion

Thursday, May 30, 2002, 1:19:09 PM, you wrote:

RE: Back button-refresh

2002-05-23 Thread Rick Walters

I have never been able to get the Meta Expire to work correctly.  Is
there a cross browser solution to successfully expire the page cache so
you can't hit the back button and return to already rendered pages?  I
especially wanted to use this to clear the cache after people logout of
the application.  I'm sure someone has spent the time needed to figure
this out.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 08:38AM 
You could try this:

cfheader name=EXPIRES value=#NOW()#

 
Thank you.
 
Steve Burcham
Webmaster - Field Support Team
RDO Equipment Co.
Phone (701) 239-8755
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-Original Message-
From: Janine Jakim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Back button-refresh


Can I force a page to refresh when a user hits the back button?  If so
How??
Thanks


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Macromedia Forums (aka FuseTalk)

2002-05-20 Thread Rick Walters

Dear MM,

Your forums blow.  I have tried to log in many times and it seems
almost random if I get in.  

Anyway, I figured I would post something here so you know why I am not
going to waste my time trying to tell you about your preview product. 
If others are having close to the same level of frustration with the
forums, you're losing a lot of potentially valuable input.  

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Apology

2002-05-20 Thread Rick Walters

I'd like to apologize for insulting the MM Forums.  I'm quite sure I'm
mad at something else and was just frustrated by the boards when I
really need the time right now.  Sorry to vent on the list.  

Good Fortune,
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Re: cfreport

2002-05-17 Thread Rick Walters

Don't know if this will help. 

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=16757Method=Full

There are undocumented properties of the CFReport Tag.

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Richard Walters,
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/02 10:02AM 
Hello all,

I am having trouble with the cfreport tag.  I'm trying to connect to
an
oracle db, and I have created a dsn using the crystal reports oracle 8
driver, which is verified as working in the cf administrator.

this is what the CF5 docs say:

cfreport report = '/reports/monthlysales.rpt'
 {Departments.Department} = 'International'
/cfreport

and then on the same page but different they say:

cfreport report = report_path
  orderBy = result_order
  username = username
  password = password
  formula = formula

/cfreport

when i try this:
cfreport report=dailytimesheets.rpt username=cf
password=fusion/cfreport
it can't find the report, even though the cfm and the rpt files are in
the
same directory.

when i do this:
cfreport report=D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt
username=cf password=fusion/cfreport
I get the error:
Error occurred while processing CFREPORT


An unexpected error occurred while using the Crystal Engine.

Error number 692 ocurred (Error in File
D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt: Invalid export DLL or
export format.).


My thinking is that the cfdocs are just plain wrong and my syntax is
right..
but I must be missing something.

All help is appreciated.

Ken Beard


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RE: cfreport

2002-05-17 Thread Rick Walters

More specifically, Crystal now has it's own webserver.  So, the best
option seems to be to set up the crystal webserver and then run it in a
frame.   I'm not fond of it because it sidesteps site security.  Unless
someone out there has a way to integrate it with existing security, I
don't think it's a good way to offer your intellectual property over the
web.  Crystal has it's own security framework that might be sufficient,
but I haven't seen a combined framework that passes parameters in a
secure manner between CF applications and CR8.  

Oh, if anyone is successfully doing this, please tell me.  I am aware
that the class can be accessed using ASP, I'm looking for a Cold Fusion
solution.  Maybe someone has a COM object for it, or maybe someone has
figured out some LDAP tricks to keep within the security framework.  And
if so, the next step is to move the crystal server to it's own machine
and preserve the security.  Crystal's web server is a resource hog.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/02 10:25AM 
nevermind... found this on the crystal reports website

Unfortunately there is currently no integration with Crystal Reports 8
and
the CF report tag. ColdFusion ships with version 5.0 of Crystal Reports
and
Macromedia has released patches to allow version 6 and version 7 to
work
with the CF report tag. As this time there is no fix for Crystal
Reports 8
to work with ColdFusion.


that sucks.

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ken Beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfreport


Hello all,

I am having trouble with the cfreport tag.  I'm trying to connect to
an
oracle db, and I have created a dsn using the crystal reports oracle 8
driver, which is verified as working in the cf administrator.

this is what the CF5 docs say:

cfreport report = '/reports/monthlysales.rpt'
 {Departments.Department} = 'International'
/cfreport

and then on the same page but different they say:

cfreport report = report_path
  orderBy = result_order
  username = username
  password = password
  formula = formula

/cfreport

when i try this:
cfreport report=dailytimesheets.rpt username=cf
password=fusion/cfreport
it can't find the report, even though the cfm and the rpt files are in
the
same directory.

when i do this:
cfreport report=D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt
username=cf password=fusion/cfreport
I get the error:
Error occurred while processing CFREPORT


An unexpected error occurred while using the Crystal Engine.

Error number 692 ocurred (Error in File
D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt: Invalid export DLL or
export format.).


My thinking is that the cfdocs are just plain wrong and my syntax is
right..
but I must be missing something.

All help is appreciated.

Ken Beard



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Re: cfreport

2002-05-17 Thread Rick Walters

CFContent.. hey.. that is a good idea.  I thought of calling an asp page
with CFHTTP the same way but it's mildly detestable to NEED to use ASP.

Good Fortune,
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/02 10:54AM 
Rick, I've done exactly this.  I created a VB com wrapper to access
the
Crystal Object.  Right now, I use the wrapper to pass username,
password,
dbname, servername, and selection formula and then export the report to
a
PDF (other formats are available, but mostly prove unusable :) ). 
After the
PDF is generated, I serve it to the user via CFContent.  It's kind of
a
convoluted way of doing things, but I didn't care for the crystal
reports
server either.

Marlon

- Original Message -
From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: cfreport


 More specifically, Crystal now has it's own webserver.  So, the best
 option seems to be to set up the crystal webserver and then run it in
a
 frame.   I'm not fond of it because it sidesteps site security. 
Unless
 someone out there has a way to integrate it with existing security,
I
 don't think it's a good way to offer your intellectual property over
the
 web.  Crystal has it's own security framework that might be
sufficient,
 but I haven't seen a combined framework that passes parameters in a
 secure manner between CF applications and CR8.

 Oh, if anyone is successfully doing this, please tell me.  I am
aware
 that the class can be accessed using ASP, I'm looking for a Cold
Fusion
 solution.  Maybe someone has a COM object for it, or maybe someone
has
 figured out some LDAP tricks to keep within the security framework. 
And
 if so, the next step is to move the crystal server to it's own
machine
 and preserve the security.  Crystal's web server is a resource hog.

 Good Fortune,
 Richard Walters,
 Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (800) 604-5227 x 3525

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/02 10:25AM 
 nevermind... found this on the crystal reports website

 Unfortunately there is currently no integration with Crystal Reports
8
 and
 the CF report tag. ColdFusion ships with version 5.0 of Crystal
Reports
 and
 Macromedia has released patches to allow version 6 and version 7 to
 work
 with the CF report tag. As this time there is no fix for Crystal
 Reports 8
 to work with ColdFusion.


 that sucks.

 Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:03 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: cfreport


 Hello all,

 I am having trouble with the cfreport tag.  I'm trying to connect to
 an
 oracle db, and I have created a dsn using the crystal reports oracle
8
 driver, which is verified as working in the cf administrator.

 this is what the CF5 docs say:

 cfreport report = '/reports/monthlysales.rpt'
  {Departments.Department} = 'International'
 /cfreport

 and then on the same page but different they say:

 cfreport report = report_path
   orderBy = result_order
   username = username
   password = password
   formula = formula

 /cfreport

 when i try this:
 cfreport report=dailytimesheets.rpt username=cf
 password=fusion/cfreport
 it can't find the report, even though the cfm and the rpt files are
in
 the
 same directory.

 when i do this:
 cfreport report=D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt
 username=cf password=fusion/cfreport
 I get the error:
 Error occurred while processing CFREPORT


 An unexpected error occurred while using the Crystal Engine.

 Error number 692 ocurred (Error in File
 D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt: Invalid export DLL
or
 export format.).


 My thinking is that the cfdocs are just plain wrong and my syntax is
 right..
 but I must be missing something.

 All help is appreciated.

 Ken Beard



 

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Re: cfreport

2002-05-17 Thread Rick Walters

I'm skeptical that list supports attachements, but if you're willing,
I'd love a copy.  Copy me. :)

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/02 11:11AM 
Sure, but I'm off work today so I can't get to the source right now,
and 
since there's no documentation, you'd probably want that too :-)
Does this list support attachments?



Ken Beard wrote:

Marlon,

Any chance you'd share that?

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfreport


Rick, I've done exactly this.  I created a VB com wrapper to access
the
Crystal Object.  Right now, I use the wrapper to pass username,
password,
dbname, servername, and selection formula and then export the report
to a
PDF (other formats are available, but mostly prove unusable :) ). 
After the
PDF is generated, I serve it to the user via CFContent.  It's kind of
a
convoluted way of doing things, but I didn't care for the crystal
reports
server either.

Marlon

- Original Message -
From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: cfreport


  

More specifically, Crystal now has it's own webserver.  So, the best
option seems to be to set up the crystal webserver and then run it in
a
frame.   I'm not fond of it because it sidesteps site security. 
Unless
someone out there has a way to integrate it with existing security,
I
don't think it's a good way to offer your intellectual property over
the
web.  Crystal has it's own security framework that might be
sufficient,
but I haven't seen a combined framework that passes parameters in a
secure manner between CF applications and CR8.

Oh, if anyone is successfully doing this, please tell me.  I am
aware
that the class can be accessed using ASP, I'm looking for a Cold
Fusion
solution.  Maybe someone has a COM object for it, or maybe someone
has
figured out some LDAP tricks to keep within the security framework. 
And
if so, the next step is to move the crystal server to it's own
machine
and preserve the security.  Crystal's web server is a resource hog.

Good Fortune,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/02 10:25AM 
  

nevermind... found this on the crystal reports website

Unfortunately there is currently no integration with Crystal Reports
8
and
the CF report tag. ColdFusion ships with version 5.0 of Crystal
Reports
and
Macromedia has released patches to allow version 6 and version 7 to
work
with the CF report tag. As this time there is no fix for Crystal
Reports 8
to work with ColdFusion.


that sucks.

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ken Beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfreport


Hello all,

I am having trouble with the cfreport tag.  I'm trying to connect to
an
oracle db, and I have created a dsn using the crystal reports oracle
8
driver, which is verified as working in the cf administrator.

this is what the CF5 docs say:

cfreport report = '/reports/monthlysales.rpt'
 {Departments.Department} = 'International'
/cfreport

and then on the same page but different they say:

cfreport report = report_path
  orderBy = result_order
  username = username
  password = password
  formula = formula

/cfreport

when i try this:
cfreport report=dailytimesheets.rpt username=cf
password=fusion/cfreport
it can't find the report, even though the cfm and the rpt files are
in
the
same directory.

when i do this:
cfreport report=D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt
username=cf password=fusion/cfreport
I get the error:
Error occurred while processing CFREPORT


An unexpected error occurred while using the Crystal Engine.

Error number 692 ocurred (Error in File
D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\kenbeard\dailytimesheets.rpt: Invalid export DLL
or
export format.).


My thinking is that the cfdocs are just plain wrong and my syntax is
right..
but I must be missing something.

All help is appreciated.

Ken Beard









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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Rick Walters

Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM 
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
consuming that gift.

Kevin

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM 
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


 Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
 get back to
 the news ha.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


 I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
 Our goal is
 $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!

 -Original Message-
 From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


 I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
 could see that
 the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
 inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
 goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
 before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
 there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
 that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
inclined to
 donate $100.

 Regards,

 Howie

 - Original Message -
 From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


  Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin)
 
  Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
  on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
  and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
  group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
 
  Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden..
And
  I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
  receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
  gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
 
  Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
afterwards, if
  anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
do
  with it.. I'm sure.
 
  Just my .02
 




 


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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Rick Walters

What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM 
No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
about
Buffalo, NY?

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? 

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM 
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
consuming that gift.

Kevin

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM 
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


 Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
 get back to
 the news ha.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


 I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
 Our goal is
 $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!

 -Original Message-
 From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


 I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
 could see that
 the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
 inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
 goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
 before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
 there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
 that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
inclined to
 donate $100.

 Regards,

 Howie

 - Original Message -
 From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


  Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin)
 
  Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
  on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
  and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
  group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
 
  Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be
hidden..
And
  I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
  receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
  gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
 
  Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
afterwards, if
  anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
do
  with it.. I'm sure.
 
  Just my .02
 




 




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RE: [admin] List status

2002-05-14 Thread Rick Walters

Being able to search the archives might even be worth a donation to many
of us.  I know it would help me out on occasion.  It would greatly
reduce the number of emails I save in my CF Archive folder.

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Wow, searching the archives would be 'the heat'! how can we help to get
the
sql box online?

Tony Gruen




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RE: Geographical redundancy?

2002-05-13 Thread Rick Walters

BoardWatch Magazine publishes a summary of country-wide backbone
providers once or twice a year.  If you look specifically for this
publication you can get a good overview of which networks connect to
which cities and NAPs (MAE-East is a NAP).  

Personally, I don't think you're really looking for a solution like
this in the end. You might want to consider pooling data locally at your
collection centers and, as someone already mentioned, replicate this
data to a central source.  Then, if you choose to use a web interface
for collection and display of this data, you can have multiple
webservers, each local to the pooled data, and a master server residing
over the central data.  With this model, the central repository's
reports could conceivably be impaired by net traffic, but the local
centers, where the data is entered, will remain up to date and
functioning regardless of disasters in other locations or loss of
connectivity.  


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/12/02 01:16PM 
Exodus is now owned by Cable  Wireless. C  W also bought Digital
Island, so they have some great technology for distribute web sites.
Global Crossing is another Enron, so you best stay away. AboveNet,
which
was always owned by Metromedia Fiber Network (MFN); has been sucked
back
into the parent company. MFN has had and continues to have one of the
best IP networks in the world. Their claim to fame is also that they
run
the MAEs. UUnet has a great network, but they are part of WorldCom,
which is having serious trouble theses days. Savvis has some really
nice
offerings and has weathered the downturn thanks to their monopoly on
finical services networks that their parent company Bridge gave them.
Level3 Communications also has some good stuff these days.

There are plenty of other ISPs and hosting providers, but they really
can't compete with the above list.

-Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 9:59 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Geographical redundancy?
 
 You'll need to rely on one of the larger ISP/hosting providers for
this,
 it
 won't be cheap. Exodus (are they still around?), is an example of a
well
 known provider that can accommodate you. Their NOC's (network
operation
 center) are notoriously renowned as being the biggest and the
baddest
 (including guards armed with AR15's back in the dot com hay days).
 You'll
 also want to do a little research on your hosting provider's
providers
-
 they should have redundant uplinks to at least two of the larger
pipes
 (abovenet, UUNet, gblX, etc). They should provide you with evidence
of
 their
 uptime (MRTG charting) - as you see downtimes for one routing
interface,
 there should be significant jumps for the others to show that
they're
in
 fact picking up the slack. This is what I believe the CCIE
certifications
 were meant to teach people - becoming conversant with the various
 protocols
 (OSPF, RIP, HSRP, insert TLA here) and how to configure them to make
the
 Beast happy.
 
 As for keeping your application/database transactions synchronized,
that
 could fill a book in it's own right. You're better off dumping the
 responsibility onto somebody that's done it before.
 
 When everything is set up, you'll want to document and test a
disaster
 recovery plan.
 
 Adam.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 1:05 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Geographical redundancy?
 
 
 I have to put together a proposal for a medical office
management
  application which will be used in an  ASP (application
  service provider -
  not the MS language:)  model..  one of the requirements is that
the
  application has to be hosted in such a way that a major
  disaster (natural
  or otherwise) in 1 location can't cause the loss of any data,
  and only a
  small (maybe an hour) downtime for the application.
  After the Sept. 11 tragedy, my websites had connectivity
  problems on
  and off for a few days.  We also had 24 hours of downtime
  when a hurricane
  knocked down a bunch of telephone poles near my ISP a few years
ago.
For this application, that wouldn't have been
acceptable.
 
  I have no idea how to approach it. Any ideas?
 
 
  Al
  a1webs.com
 
 
 
 
  At 06:08 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, Justin Greene wrote:
  I Have to agree.  Hardware based clustering for the front
  end... and either
  SQL Enterprise or Veritas on the backend to handle the
  database cluster.
  Very solid configuration.  We have been hardware clustering
  CF with Alteons
  for over 3 years.  Just need to keep sessions in the DB and
  make sure the
  web boxes keep the file systems synched.
 
 
 

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Re: can this be done?

2002-05-13 Thread Rick Walters

Yes,

Just create the two new columns and do like you suggested, find the
first space and insert the name into the firstname column and then copy
the remaining length of the string into the lastname column minus the
space.  Then run a quick output to visually inspect the contents of the
fields.  It'll be a small pain to do but lesson learned: never let the
client define the database.  :)



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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/13/02 12:04PM 
Hello cf-talk,

  I have an existing project where a form takes a field name and
  inserts in in a row name in an Access database.

  So, we have about 1000 names in the database as one name (firstname
  lastname). Now, the client changes
  his mind, and wants to be able to sort by last name, firstname.

  Yes, this was discussed prior to, and was deemed not needed.

  Is there a way, to somehow break up the full name into 2 fields, say
  by using the space as a separator?  I would only need to do this
  once as it is an event. Could I make two new fields, last_name and
  first_name, then get the fullname, break it up using the space, then
  insert first_name, then last_name?

  Is this even possible? This would have been so much easier if client
  said yes to this at the design stage!


Best regards,
 Jeff Fongemie  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: SQL Question

2002-05-10 Thread Rick Walters

I use where clause join syntax for more reasons that just portablity. 
Besides the fact that the tables involved in the query are easier to
identify and my opinion that it's easier to read, I find it easier to
write dynamic sql using this syntax.  For example:

cfset thePeopleId=

cfif getdetail is 1  
  cfset SQLfields=, b.firstname, b.lastname
  cfset SQLtable=, peopleDetail b
  cfset SQLwhere=AND a.peopleid = b.peopleid

cfelse
  cfset SQLfields=
  cfset SQLtable=
  cfset SQLwhere=

/cfif

cfquery name=myquery datasource=#dsn#
 SELECT a.idpeople#SQLfields#
 FROM people a#SQLtable#
 WHERE peopleid =#thePeopleId#
 #SQLwhere#
/cfquery



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so are you saying that even though you use ansi joins, you should
probably be using *= for portability?

~ dina


- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: SQL Question


   Is the *= universal syntax (MS SQL, Access, Oracle, MySQL
   ect..?)
 
  it's my understanding that the *= syntax is legacy syntax; i
  believe you'll want ansi syntax to effect compatibility with
a
  most dbms's:
 
  SELECT h.id, h.header,  l.link, l.link_title
  FROM headers h LEFT JOIN links l ON h.id = l.headerid

 While you're correct to point out that the *= syntax is not
ANSI SQL, I
 suspect that it's supported by more databases than the ANSI
JOIN syntax! We
 typically use ANSI joins, but I remember an unpleasant
occurance porting
 something from MS T-SQL to Sybase T-SQL, and that version of
Sybase didn't
 support ANSI join syntax.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/ 
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Re: Studio/DWMX comparisons

2002-05-07 Thread Rick Walters


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RE: Coldfusion MX

2002-05-02 Thread Rick Walters

Christine,

What about those of us who have yet to upgrade to CF5?  Will the jump
from 4.5 to MX be a larger change, should I expect more code
incompatibilites?

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/02/02 12:16PM 
Hi,
CFMX will be the upgrade path for ColdFusion 5. We're in the process 
of getting the link to the CF 5 Developer Edition back up. For now, you
can download it here:
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/coldfusion/esd/coldfusion-50-win-us_devrel.exe


Regards,
Christine Lawson
Macromedia Technical Support

-Original Message-
From: harmony jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion MX


When the CF MX going to be officially released? There is no mention of
CF 
5.0 anymore on the Macromedia site, you can't even download the CF 5.0

evaluation anymore (does anyone know where I can get that)

Is CF MX and replacement for CF 5.0 ?

I'm running 4.5.1 and was going to upgrade to CF5.0 but it seems like
CF5.0 
has been wiped off the face of MM's site so I'm thinking should I go 
straight to CF MX ? I'm guessing it's NOT very backward compatible with
CF 
4.5.1

I heard that MM was going to continue supporting CF 5.0 but they way it
is 
represented on their site makes me think otherwise...

Any suggestions here...

Thanks and have a good week.


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RE: CF MX Books

2002-04-29 Thread Rick Walters

Bold post, Jeff.  

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/29/02 03:27PM 
  At the risk of blatant self-promotion..
  My new book will be out sometime in June also (ColdFusion MX: The 
Complete Reference).

  Unlike many of the other books, which are just being updated, this
one 
was written from scratch with CFMX in mind.  I have a few contributors
on 
various topics including Simon Horwith, Chris Cortes, and Chris 
Graves.  Michael Dinowitz is doing the tech editing.

  Keep watch on this forum during the next few months when I will start

begging people to buy it so I can pay my mortgage.  (Kidding, honest).


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Re: contacting congress /

2002-04-23 Thread Rick Walters

That's not entirely true, David.

I worked on Capitol Hill for several years as a contractor and was able
to visit almost all of the offices of our elected officials.  It is true
that all of the offices will screen your mail, and that this process may
boil your comments down to a check box in the for or against column.
 It is also true that a college intern may be the one screening your
comments and your comments may not get the attention they deserve.  But,
emails or letters that raise issues that do not easily fall into column
x or column y, or issues that are targeted by specific staff members
tend to get routed to the next level.  The next level is usually a
staffmember (just out of college) who has been given an issue or area to
summarize for their representative.  Your mailing/emailing campaign
should be targeted to enlist this person to your cause.  It will be
this person who will raise the issue at the weekly/daily staff meeting. 
Your email itself will very rarely reach the desk of your
representative, it's true, but your emails and letters are not ignored.
In fact, many senators file all of your correspondance.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/23/02 10:12AM 
Another thing to keep in mind - e-mail to our elected officials is
pretty worthless.  Most don't understand the medium and never look at
them.  Just something to consider.


David Groth, Analyst/Programmer III
HSC Library  Informatics Center, University of New Mexico
505.272.8406  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/23/02 07:33AM 
Hello-

I would like to automate the process of contacting Congress a
visitor's
congress member. I've got a database (provided by client) which has
all
of
congress, but not all of the congress members have email addresses. I
guess
this is a two part question:

1. Does anyone know of a zip code - congressional district database?
2. Has anyone automated the process of contacting congress members on
a
nation wide basis? With a variety of different web based contact
forms,
I'm
wondering how to code this... I'd like to handle it on site- Instead
of
providing a link to whatever form the particular congress member is
using.
3. Last but not least- I heard a rumor that their are databases with
plain
EMAIL addresses for all of congress... IF anyone knows anything about
this,
I'd love to know!!! It would be much easier than trying to deal with
the
assortment of contact forms...

Thanks in advance!

Louis Klepner
Expressive Imaging
Web Design  Development

845-440-0086
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: CF and Business Logic

2002-04-19 Thread Rick Walters

I think I would have taken a different tact with your subcontractor.  

Beginning with the assumption that he considers himself the center of
the known universe and probably has had some dealings with asking his IT
department for something unnecessisarily complex in the past... I would
have to agree with his statement (what else would he hear?).  

But, realistically [insert subcontractor name with casual smile] i'm
sure it's not the language itself.  In fact, most business logic that
higher managment and people we hire to analyze our systems can imagine
will be difficult for most web programmers to implent (compliments his
intellectual prowess).  But in this case, our team has me to implement
whatever business logic you might need, and I'm sure that given two
rocks and a sharp stick (throw in some such senseless analogy) I'd be
able to give you what you want.  Give me a great programming language
like Cold Fusion and I might be able to get it done today!  It's just
that fast and easy to use.


-Original Message-
From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF and Business Logic


More of a philosophical question. I was meeting with a potential
subcontractor the other day and he made the remark that once you get
into
serious business logic, cold fusion is kinda hokey. Anyone care to
possibly elaborate on what he might've meant? Or is this just another
one of
those anti-CF prejudices?

Just wondering,

John Venable


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Re: OT: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Rick Walters

Union Adds the rows from a second table, Join combines the tables.  It's
conceivable that they produce the same result if you're using an outer
join, but they're different.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/02 10:18AM 
Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
tables versus a JOIN on four tables?

Thanks

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RE: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Rick Walters

If you have a single table with fields from other tables you can join
them all fairly simply.  Consider the following four tables:

cars
   carid
   cartypeid
   carcolorid
   carmodelid

carmodel
   carmodelid
   model

carcolor
   carcolorid
   color

cartype
   cartypeid
   type


You can get the data from all the tables with a join: 
(i'm using the older syntax cause it is easier, the letters are
aliases)

select a.carid, b.model, c.color, d.type
from cars a, carmodel b, carcolor c, cartype d
where a.carmodelid = b.carmodelid
and a.carcolorid = c.carmodelid
and a.cartypeid = d.cartypeid
and a.carid = 

That will get all the data for one car.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/02 11:14AM 
can you give more detail?  from just this amount, it sounds like a join
may be in the making.  are all the tables related via the relationship
table?

christopher olive
cto, vp of web development, vp it security
atnet solutions, inc.
410.931.4092
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-Original Message-
From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN


I am combining the results of three tables that are very similar in
their
setup and the fourth table holds all the relationships.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com 
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder


 they do different things, really.  what are you trying to
accomplish?

 christopher olive
 cto, vp of web development, vp it security
 atnet solutions, inc.
 410.931.4092
 http://www.atnetsolutions.com 


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN


 Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on
four
 tables versus a JOIN on four tables?

 Thanks

 Paul Giesenhagen
 QuillDesign
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Re: RE: Preventing SQL injection attacks...?

2002-04-12 Thread Rick Walters

This code would fail my own code review.  I don't allow any url. or
form. variables inside CFQUERY statements.  This, however, might
pass.

!--- Validate ID ---
cfif #isdefined(id)# is true
cfset theId=#val(htmleditformat(REreplacenocase(id,
[*,;^:?|\],  , ALL )))#
cfelse
cfset theId=0
/cfif

!--- update time of last visit for this user ---
cfquery name=queryit datasource=#dsn#
  update people
  set updated = '#dateformat(now(), MM/DD/)#'
  where peopleid = cfqueryparam value=#theid#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
/cfquery

(Note:  I am not using CFQueryParam here as a validation tool.  I
already know the variable is an integer.  This query is from a header
and will fire every page load so I want successive queries to run from
cache on the Database server.)



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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/02 01:44PM 
cfqueryparam does in fact prevent that code from running.  
cfqueryparam creates a prepared statement with parameters.  It then 
compares what you've entered as a value with the datatype you've 
specified and, if successful, binds the parameters with what you've 
entered.  So, if you entered:

select * from table where id = cfqueryparam value=#url.id# 
cfsqltype=CF_SQL_DECIMAL

and then in your url entered: id=12;drop table yourtable

It would through you an error.

As well, if you had:

select * from table where id = cfqueryparam value=#url.id# 
cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR

It would create the equivalent SQL statement of:

select * from table where id = '12;drop table yourtable'

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:00 am
Subject: RE: Preventing SQL injection attacks...?

 let's say you have a text field that is 100 characters long. you 
 can still
 get a drop table tablename appended to the sql statement or 
 write an
 entire sql statment. Cfqueryparam was meant to speed up cfquery, 
 not be to a
 cure all.
 
 Anthony Petruzzi
 Webmaster
 954-321-4703
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 http://www.sheriff.org 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Zac Spitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Preventing SQL injection attacks...?
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 you can't forget that form fields also play a part in this. after 
 readingthe informaiton provided in jeff's link, it did shine a 
 light. although i
 have been taught from the beginning to always use val() around 
 numbericvalues (thank Adam) and to use regex to validate text 
 input (props
 Raymond).
 if your anal and take the time to make sure that the information
that
 people
 are passing you is in the extact fomrat you want, you shouldn't 
 have a
 problem. also, don't rely on javascript, i always do server-side 
 validationeven after client side, just to make certain. i even go 
 as far as putting
 as
 much validation as i can into my stored procedures and triggers. 
 althoughSQL server doesn't support regular expressions , which 
 sucks! anyone know a
 way it could?
 
 why not just use cfqueryparam, it validates and it makes your sql 
 code 
 run faster???
 
 
 

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RE: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes

2002-04-12 Thread Rick Walters

If you're trying to perserve the quotes so that SQL will recognize them
and end or begin a string, then you use perservesinglequotes().  If you
are trying to escape a single quote but keep it in your database, then
you need to use htmleditformat().

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  What is the full query?
  I really think that Preserve Single Quotes is supposed to handle 
this.   I know you said that it wasn't working, but do you get the same

error if you do this:

,SIZE = '#PreserveSingleQuotes(FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i])#'


At 01:59 PM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
This is the offending line:
,SIZE = '#FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i]#'


and the cfoutput of that line:

,SIZE = 'Teacher's Solo'



Here is the error:

ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation)


[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntax error (missing
operator) in query expression ''Teacher's Solo' ,TYPE = 'Competitive'
where id = 1'.


If I remove the line where Teacher's Solo occurs then it works great.

- Matt Small



-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes

   What error are you getting?  What database are you using?  Have
you
tried
outputting the data after you submit it to see what you are getting?


At 01:38 PM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
  From the CF4.5 Language Reference -
  PreserveSingleQuotes -
  Prevents ColdFusion from automatically escaping
single
 quotes  contained in variable.
 
 What is going on is I have a CFGRID that I have to manually update
 because it throws an error if I use CFGRIDUPDATE.  My own code
which
 does the update and insert works perfect except when it encounters
the
 string Teacher's.   For some reason that I don't know, the single
 quote does not get escaped when I pull it from the variable
 FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i].  I can't figure out what to do.  I want the
 single quote to be escaped so that it will insert into the database
 without error.  I've already tried the function
 #Replace(FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i], ', '', all)# but it doesn't
work
 for me.  Anybody got any ideas what's going on?
 
 Thanks,
 
 - Matt Small
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes
 
I am either confused about the functionality you want, or the
 functionality PreserveSingleQuotes provides.
 
PreserveSingleQuotes preserves single quotes for database inserts
by
 automatically escaping them.  It needs a variable as the value, not
a
 string.  I'm assuming you already have Teacher's Group in a
variable?
 
 cfoutput
   cfset temp = Teacher's Group
   #PreserveSingleQuotes(temp)#
 /cfoutput
 
You could probably try to do something more using replace:
 
#Replace(Teacher's Group, ', '', all)#
 
will return:
 Teacher''s Group
 
 
 At 11:55 AM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
  No, that preserves single quotes.  I want to escape single
quotes.
  
  Thanks,
  Matt Small
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:32 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes
  
 Isn't there a function (PreserveSingleQuotes) that does this?
  
  At 11:38 AM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
   Hi everybody,
I'm having a problem with an update to a table - the
problem
  is
   when I want to update or insert the string Teacher's Group. 
CF
  throws
   an error at me when I try this.  I know that CF usually escapes
the
   single quote, but it's not in this case.  I know I saw a post
with
on
   this list or CFDJList about there being a bug with escaping
single
   quotes
   in CF4.5.  Anybody know how can I make CF escape the single
quote
for
   insertion into my table?  Thanks
   
   Matt Small
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
 
 



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RE: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes

2002-04-12 Thread Rick Walters

Rats.. that won't work.. so much for code humor.

Good Fortune,
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/02 03:53PM 
cfset theVariable = #evaluate(chr(39)  Smith's shorts  chr(39))#

cfquery name=queryit datasource=#dsn#
 update items
 set itemname =
#preservesinglequotes(htmleditformat(theVariable))#
/cfquery

How's that for an explanation?  It must be Friday!



Good Fortune,
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/02 03:36PM 
  Well, that isn't a database error, at least.  It seems to be
spitting
up 
on the '[' character.  It is a fairly complicated variable structure
(Is it 
structures of structures or just variable names with dots in them? )

  Maybe you need to play around with pound signs?

   '#PreserveSingleQuotes(FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[#i#])#'

  I'm stuck and without database / code to attempt to debug against, I

don't think there is much other help I could offer.
  Did you try HTMLEditFormat as someone else had suggested?

At 03:27 PM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Well, Jeffrey, I hadn't actually tried the function so I figured I
might
as well give it a shot. It didn't work.


Just in time compilation error

Invalid parser construct found on line 48 at position 55. ColdFusion
was
looking at the following text:

[
Invalid expression format. The usual cause is an error in the
expression
structure.

This is line 48

,SIZE = '#PreserveSingleQuotes(FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i])#'


Thanks,
Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes

   What is the full query?
   I really think that Preserve Single Quotes is supposed to handle
this.   I know you said that it wasn't working, but do you get the
same
error if you do this:

,SIZE = '#PreserveSingleQuotes(FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i])#'


At 01:59 PM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
 This is the offending line:
 ,SIZE = '#FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i]#'
 
 
 and the cfoutput of that line:
 
 ,SIZE = 'Teacher's Solo'
 
 
 
 Here is the error:
 
 ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation)
 
 
 [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntax error (missing
 operator) in query expression ''Teacher's Solo' ,TYPE =
'Competitive'
 where id = 1'.
 
 
 If I remove the line where Teacher's Solo occurs then it works
great.
 
 - Matt Small
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes
 
What error are you getting?  What database are you using?  Have
you
 tried
 outputting the data after you submit it to see what you are
getting?
 
 
 At 01:38 PM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
   From the CF4.5 Language Reference -
   PreserveSingleQuotes -
   Prevents ColdFusion from automatically
escaping
 single
  quotes  contained in variable.
  
  What is going on is I have a CFGRID that I have to manually
update
  because it throws an error if I use CFGRIDUPDATE.  My own code
which
  does the update and insert works perfect except when it
encounters
the
  string Teacher's.   For some reason that I don't know, the
single
  quote does not get escaped when I pull it from the variable
  FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i].  I can't figure out what to do.  I want
the
  single quote to be escaped so that it will insert into the
database
  without error.  I've already tried the function
  #Replace(FORM.EDITTABLE.SIZE[i], ', '', all)# but it
doesn't
work
  for me.  Anybody got any ideas what's going on?
  
  Thanks,
  
  - Matt Small
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:49 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes
  
 I am either confused about the functionality you want, or the
  functionality PreserveSingleQuotes provides.
  
 PreserveSingleQuotes preserves single quotes for database
inserts
by
  automatically escaping them.  It needs a variable as the value,
not a
  string.  I'm assuming you already have Teacher's Group in a
variable?
  
  cfoutput
cfset temp = Teacher's Group
#PreserveSingleQuotes(temp)#
  /cfoutput
  
 You could probably try to do something more using replace:
  
 #Replace(Teacher's Group, ', '', all)#
  
 will return:
  Teacher''s Group
  
  
  At 11:55 AM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
   No, that preserves single quotes.  I want to escape single
quotes.
   
   Thanks,
   Matt Small
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:32 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Crosspost: Escaping single quotes
   
  Isn't there a function (PreserveSingleQuotes) that does
this?
   
   At 11:38 AM 

SQL Server 2000 and @@Identity

2002-04-11 Thread Rick Walters

Hi List,

I recently upgraded from SQLServer7 to 2k and the @@identity in the
code below now returns a null string.  Anyone know why this might be
happening?  

code block~~
!--- insert user info ---
cfquery name=insertPeople datasource=#dsn#
set nocount on
insert into people 
(password, username)
values
('something', 'testuser123456')
SELECT lastid = @@identity
set nocount off
/cfquery

!--- capture the peopleid from the previous query ---
cfset thepeopleid=#insertPeople.lastid#

!--- insert associated user detail ---
cfquery name=insertDetail datasource=#dsn#
insert into people_detail
(peopleid, firstname, lastname)
values
(#thepeopleid#, 'firstname', 'lastname')
/cfquery
end code block~~~

Thanks for the help.

Good Fortune,
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RE: SQL Server 2000 and @@Identity

2002-04-11 Thread Rick Walters

Checking on the MDAC upgrade idea.. @lastid would assume lastid is a
declared variable, it's just part of my select statement.  I could have
named it anything.  Thanks for the MDAC idea.  It's a new server and I
forgot about that.

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try upgrading your mdac. also why aren't you delcare lastid and making
your
statement

SELECT @lastid = @@identity

Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL Server 2000 and @@Identity


Hi List,

I recently upgraded from SQLServer7 to 2k and the @@identity in the
code below now returns a null string.  Anyone know why this might be
happening?  

code block~~
!--- insert user info ---
cfquery name=insertPeople datasource=#dsn#
set nocount on
insert into people 
(password, username)
values
('something', 'testuser123456')
SELECT lastid = @@identity
set nocount off
/cfquery

!--- capture the peopleid from the previous query ---
cfset thepeopleid=#insertPeople.lastid#

!--- insert associated user detail ---
cfquery name=insertDetail datasource=#dsn#
insert into people_detail
(peopleid, firstname, lastname)
values
(#thepeopleid#, 'firstname', 'lastname')
/cfquery
end code block~~~

Thanks for the help.

Good Fortune,
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Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: An IMG instead of a form SUBMIT button ?

2002-04-10 Thread Rick Walters

Go check out www.htmlgoodies.com. There's lots of info about simple html
stuff and Joe Burns makes it very easy to understand.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/02 11:38AM 
How can I have the user click on a image of my own design to effect
the
'action' page on a form rather than the standard INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT
VALUE=button text ?

Simpler is better and, if given the choice, I'd rather avoid Java

Thanks for your help!


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RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being

2002-04-03 Thread Rick Walters

Honestly,

If he's willing to pay you to cross train in ASP, why complain?  I'm
assuming that you have already written a score of reports and tools that
will all need to be translated into ASP and who would know the reports
better than their author.  ASP isn't that different from Cold Fusion. 
Cold Fusion takes care of quite a few loose ends and takes far less time
to produce quick apps.  So, if your new boss is dead-set on using ASP
pick up a few kill weight manuals on ASP coding and rewrite one of
your tools.  

Remeber, coders survive on being able to code.  Managers survive on
making good business decisions.  You may well see a new manager in the
not so distant future.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:36PM 
But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not
staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager
that
seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF
even
though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but
I
think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he
should
really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am
living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always
pick
the best product.



-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being

and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of
CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)

Bryan Stevenson
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com 
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder  Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com 

- Original Message -
From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being


 Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
 really like the information to share with my current employer who
wants
 to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do
at
 all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not
 like it.

 Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being

 gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines

 Anthony Petruzzi
 Webmaster
 954-321-4703
 http://www.sheriff.org 


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF VS ASP


 OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the
pros
 and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I
do
 not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this?
Pretty
 much looking for development time differences, execution speed,
security
 and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find
this?

 Rob





 


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RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being

2002-04-03 Thread Rick Walters

Agreed, it's a bitter pill to take.  But, it's arguably still a
recession. 

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Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 03:03PM 
Yes, I agree with you, but killing all of our CF is what is making me
a
little sour on the subject, would have no problem learning more of it,
but to ask me to abandon CF totally gets to me since I am very fond of
using CF

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being

Honestly,

If he's willing to pay you to cross train in ASP, why complain?  I'm
assuming that you have already written a score of reports and tools
that
will all need to be translated into ASP and who would know the reports
better than their author.  ASP isn't that different from Cold Fusion.

Cold Fusion takes care of quite a few loose ends and takes far less
time
to produce quick apps.  So, if your new boss is dead-set on using ASP
pick up a few kill weight manuals on ASP coding and rewrite one of
your tools.  

Remeber, coders survive on being able to code.  Managers survive on
making good business decisions.  You may well see a new manager in the
not so distant future.

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Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:36PM 
But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not
staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager
that
seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF
even
though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but
I
think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he
should
really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am
living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always
pick
the best product.



-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being

and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of
CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)

Bryan Stevenson
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com 
-
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Founder  Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com 

- Original Message -
From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being


 Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
 really like the information to share with my current employer who
wants
 to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do
at
 all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not
 like it.

 Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being

 gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines

 Anthony Petruzzi
 Webmaster
 954-321-4703
 http://www.sheriff.org 


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF VS ASP


 OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the
pros
 and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I
do
 not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this?
Pretty
 much looking for development time differences, execution speed,
security
 and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find
this?

 Rob





 




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Re: CFREPORT and Error 500

2002-04-02 Thread Rick Walters

In the CF Forums you can find a lot about using CFReport.  Last I
checked the tag was depreciated since version 5 of Crystal Reports. 
Crystal has it's own webserver product now.  Crystal seems to have spent
a good deal of time integrating their product with ASP.  I also remember
some undocumented features to the CFReport tag you must use to pass
parameters to the newer versions.  Check the Forums.  I hope the info is
still there.  If not, send me a direct email and I'll dig about my own
archives for some of the examples I downloaded.  Keep in mind that
Crystal is on version 8 now.  CFReport is meant to work with Version 5.

Hope that helps.


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I am trying to pass a variable to CFREPORT and I continue to receive
the
following. There is very little on the Allaire discussion forums about
this.
I am running CF 5 and CR 8.5. I thought the previous problems
regarding
CFREPORT has been fixed in CF 5. Anyone have an idea on this?

Error Diagnostic Information
Error occurred while processing CFREPORT


An unexpected error occurred while using the Crystal Engine.

Error number 500 ocurred (Not enough memory for operation.).

Crystal Library = C:\WINNT\system32\CRPE32.DLL (2/10/2001 1:43) 
DLL Version = 8.80, Engine Version = 8.80


The error occurred while processing an element with a general
identifier of
(CFREPORT), occupying document position (9:1) to (9:59).


Date/Time: 04/02/02 11:02:09
Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; T312461)
Remote Address: 129.43.39.167

Alan L. Wolf
MCSE, MCP, MCP + I
SAIC Frederick
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MSSQL 2K Transaction Error

2002-04-01 Thread Rick Walters

Hi,

Anyone seen this error before? (I'm using SQL Server 2000)

[[

ODBC Error Code = 01000 (General warning)

[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server][OLE/DB provider
returned message: New transaction cannot enlist in the specified
transaction coordinator. ]

SQL = update secure.website.dbo.people set token = 'IUIHIOYNTKI',
updated = getdate() where peopleid = 111

]]

I have just moved to a new database server and my existing code is
bombing on the transaciton tags I have surrounding my update statements.
 When I remove the CFTRANSATION tags I don't get the errors and the
update statement executes without errors.  


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Re: What is MX

2002-04-01 Thread Rick Walters

Wow that article was negative. Maybe we should just go back to using
smoke signals to communicate.

One day a few years from now when the HTML web as we know now seems as
archaic a presentation medium as ASCII graphics of the war games era,
the person who wrote that article will likely shrug and take another
bitter sip of some generic coffee.

The vector concept of web presentation is doubtlessly the wave of the
future and Flash is the defacto player of choice.  If the current search
engine paradigm is holding back the development in this medium should we
hold back development in Flash or should we reward the engine that gets
with the program and finds a way to index flash content. 

Good Fortune,
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/02 12:39PM 
Interesting article today on News.com.  Looks like it's going take
some
serious marketing to sell the concept.

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-872136.html 

Jim



- Original Message -
From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: What is MX


 In other words, it sounds cool!!!



 Success is a journey, not a destination!!



 Doug Brown
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:15 AM
 Subject: RE: What is MX


  -Original Message-
  From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:53 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: What is MX
  
  
 Not that 'branding everything under one banner' is a bad idea,
but..
 MX seems like a random 'name' to choose for branding if it
doesn't
  mean
  anything.
  
 
  Go to this article by MM's John Dowdell and scroll down to the
second
  question under the Q  A section.
 
  http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ 
 
  That should give you an official answer.
 
  Regards,
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Re: What is MX

2002-04-01 Thread Rick Walters

We'll see.  One day it may be just as easy to flow text into Flash
reports.  We'll see.  I'm sure someone at Macromedia has been scratching
their chin trying to figure out how to get their hands on the business
application development money.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/02 01:20PM 
I agree that flash is far superior to HTML for multimedia rich content.
 But when it comes to posting documents and information, HTML/XHTML/XML
is far superior to flash.

Different tasks require different tools.  

 Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/02 01:13PM 
Wow that article was negative. Maybe we should just go back to using
smoke signals to communicate.

One day a few years from now when the HTML web as we know now seems as
archaic a presentation medium as ASCII graphics of the war games
era,
the person who wrote that article will likely shrug and take another
bitter sip of some generic coffee.

The vector concept of web presentation is doubtlessly the wave of the
future and Flash is the defacto player of choice.  If the current
search
engine paradigm is holding back the development in this medium should
we
hold back development in Flash or should we reward the engine that
gets
with the program and finds a way to index flash content. 

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/02 12:39PM 
Interesting article today on News.com.  Looks like it's going take
some
serious marketing to sell the concept.

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-872136.html 

Jim



- Original Message -
From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: What is MX


 In other words, it sounds cool!!!



 Success is a journey, not a destination!!



 Doug Brown
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:15 AM
 Subject: RE: What is MX


  -Original Message-
  From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:53 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: What is MX
  
  
 Not that 'branding everything under one banner' is a bad idea,
but..
 MX seems like a random 'name' to choose for branding if it
doesn't
  mean
  anything.
  
 
  Go to this article by MM's John Dowdell and scroll down to the
second
  question under the Q  A section.
 
  http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ 
 
  That should give you an official answer.
 
  Regards,
  Dave.




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DHTML Layers

2002-03-29 Thread Rick Walters

Hi Everyone,

While this is not a Cold Fusion question, someone out there might have
run into this problem before.  

I am creating dynamic javascript to control a set of drop down menus. 
My problem arises when I have a page with form input fields.  Whenever
there are form input fields on the page the layers containing the
menuitems display behind the form input elements.  Naturally I want the
drop down layers to appear above the form elements but I don't really
know how.  Any ideas?



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RE: DHTML Layers

2002-03-29 Thread Rick Walters

The layering problem is happening in IE.  

Thanks for the suggestions guys.  

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You need to set the z-index property on your layers.

Sounds like you're using Netscape for this, as in IE the select boxes
are
system object and thus override everything else on the screen.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: DHTML Layers


Hi Everyone,

While this is not a Cold Fusion question, someone out there might have
run into this problem before.

I am creating dynamic javascript to control a set of drop down menus.
My problem arises when I have a page with form input fields.  Whenever
there are form input fields on the page the layers containing the
menuitems display behind the form input elements.  Naturally I want
the
drop down layers to appear above the form elements but I don't really
know how.  Any ideas?



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RE: DHTML Layers + Flash!

2002-03-29 Thread Rick Walters

I would love to do the dynamic menus in flash.  I never thought to put
the flash into a layer.  Interesting idea.  See though drop down menus
could create some very cool effects, especially since you can animate of
the menu.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/02 11:07AM 
This is not possible with regular DHTML layers but, I have come up with
a
solution, but I don't have an example for you. Try putting a flash
movie in
the layer. It will go over the form fields. It will even (in IE) allow
transparency. You can even see the webpage behind/through the menu.
Now, to
do it right, you'll need a full dhtml/flash/cf solution for menus. I
haven't
seen one yet. Currently, I'm waiting on my new employer to buy Flash
MX.
When I get, it I plan on developing one. If anyone has beat me to this,
let
me know. I would like to see what you came up with.

Justin Hansen
--
Uhlig Communications
Web Developer / Programmer
--
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: DHTML Layers


Hi Everyone,

While this is not a Cold Fusion question, someone out there might have
run into this problem before.

I am creating dynamic javascript to control a set of drop down menus.
My problem arises when I have a page with form input fields.  Whenever
there are form input fields on the page the layers containing the
menuitems display behind the form input elements.  Naturally I want
the
drop down layers to appear above the form elements but I don't really
know how.  Any ideas?



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Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: Creating update statements on the fly

2002-03-29 Thread Rick Walters

There's always the ASP way...

!--- build the query ---
cfset sql=update tablename set  
cfif condition1...
  cfset sql=#sql#   columname=value
/cfif
cfif condition2...
  cfset sql=#sql#   where columname = 1
/cfif

cfquery name=myquery datasource=#dsn#
   #sql#
/cfquery


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HI,

  I wanted to create a Update statement on the fly. For creating a
Select
statement on the fly  I have used 
 
  Select * from tablename 
  Where 0=0
   cfif isDefined(attributes.String1)
 and String1 = attributes.String1
   /cfif
  

   How can I achieve this for update statement as I couldn't figure
out
where to put Set statement and the last line with out coma(',')  in my
statement.

  Thanks in advance.

Sudheer Chakka.
  



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RE: Anyone from Orlando not in the CFUG?

2002-03-27 Thread Rick Walters

No really,

Orlando's CFUG really is quite good.  I have moved about quite a lot as
a contractor and have seen more than a few alternatives.  It is pleasant
to report that Orlando's group remains more interested in coding than
marketing.  

While it is important that CFUG's help promote CF as the solution of
choice for local business, I think that having a knowegeable and
talented pool of local developers is the best way to increase the use of
Cold Fusion in area businesses.  Orlando's group is all about answering
questions and not selling services (like some others I've seen and won't
spotlight).  

Oh, don't get me wrong, there are other good groups out there.  I just
wanted to chime in and further encourage Orlando Developers to come to
the meetings.  

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/02 09:30AM 
  : whine, whine, whine:   All three Connecticut ones went DOA in the
past 
year.

  A quick search of the link below, Connecticut isn't even listed (
usually 
it is between Colorado and Delaware )

  It also looks like there are no Macromedia user groups in Idaho,
Maine, 
Mississippi, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, and West
Virginia.

At 09:26 AM 3/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
As a general follow up to this - anyone NOT in a CFUG is _really_
missing out on a wonderful exprerience. I encourage everyone not
attending a CFUG to go to http://www.macromedia.com/v1/usergroups/
and
see if a UG is in your area.

===
Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Yahoo IM : morpheus

My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:19 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Anyone from Orlando not in the CFUG?
 
 
I am co chair for our ColdFusion User Group here in
  Orlando, FL and
  I just want to make sure that I have everyone in the Orlando
  area signed up
  for our User Group. I am trying to get more user
  participation so that we
  can network and get to know each other. If you're interested
  in joining us
  go to www.cforlando.com and sign up as a member. We have
  monthly meetings
  and we will be starting something new called CF_Beer. We will
  all meet up
  once every couple of weeks for drinks, talking, and getting
  to know each
  other without having to have a formal meeting or speaker.
  Email me off list
  if you have any questions.
 



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Re: Closing window

2002-03-27 Thread Rick Walters

Without using Javascript or another client side language?  You can't. 
You could manually close the window or have a client event trigger some
other process.



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How can I close a window using javascript without having to click on a
link 
or button?

After my CF code runs I want the window to close.





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Re: Closing window

2002-03-27 Thread Rick Walters

Disregard this.. I read your question incorrectly.

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Without using Javascript or another client side language?  You can't. 
You could manually close the window or have a client event trigger
some
other process.



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Richard Walters,
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How can I close a window using javascript without having to click on a
link 
or button?

After my CF code runs I want the window to close.





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Re: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)

2002-03-13 Thread Rick Walters

I don't think anyone doubted there would be patch releases to Spectra. 
If I have been reading this thread correctly, those of us who do not
already have Spectra don't plan to buy a copy anytime soon.  However, if
it were handed out to developers, we would certainly help support it. 
:)


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Hi Guys and Gals.,

Contrary to popular belief, Macromedia Spectra will be having one more
release in the future - 1.5.2.  This will allow it to run on the next
release of ColdFusion - ColdFusion MX(Neo).Neo will allow you to
still
use the core features of the Spectra model via ColdFusion Components.  
I
can only tell you what I know and what is not under NDA anymore
(Raymond
Campden is your man to ask, but I think he is neck deep in Neo
development!)

But remember you can get a development copy of Spectra for single user
use
off your ColdFusion Studio CD (it is on the 4.5 disk, I will have to
check
the 5 disk) So if you want to help improve the model, you still can
via
http://spectrasource.macromedia.com 

Laters

Neil



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ArrayAvg()

2002-02-26 Thread Rick Walters

Has anyone ever used the ArrayAvg Function with a multi-dimensional array?  

I have a two dimensional array[questionnumber][answer].  The answers are all
values 1-5 and I need the average for each question.


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RE: Joining Tables from Different Datasources... Possible?

2002-02-23 Thread Rick Walters

If you're using SQL Server, AND the databases are on separate machines, 
you
need to LINK the databases from within enterprise manager.  Then, when 
you
reference database.dbo.tablename, SQL Server will do the rest.  If I 
recall
correctly, it is not enough to simply register the server, they must 
also be
Linked.  To link a server in SQL Server 2000, choose new linked 
server
under the security tab for a registered server.  I believe you need 
to
make the link on both servers, but if you don't, then the DSN that you 
use
for the datasource property in your CFQUERY tag will need to refer to 
the
server that defined the active link.  Oh, while I have no direct proof 
of
this, I believe it is best to weigh the size of the tables and activity 
of
the server when choosing which server initiates the join in your 
CFQUERY
tag.  Especially when servers are separated by thousands of miles (as 
mine
are) it seems to make a difference to let the server with the largest
portion of the data crunch the join.  Also, for security reasons, I 
have
been told it may not be practical to Link a server that is behind a 
firewall
to a server outside the firewall.  Rather, a one-way link from inside 
to out
would make better sense.  This might apply if your webserver runs SQL 
Server
locally in a DMZ.

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-Original Message-
From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Joining Tables from Different Datasources... Possible?

How would I do a join of tables from two different datasources?

Thanks,

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RE: CF-Talk-list V1 #141

2002-02-20 Thread Rick Walters

No no, thanks for the clarification.  I didn't set up the sequences when I
was working with Oracle.  I'm always happy to know more.  

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-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF-Talk-list V1 #141

 --
 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:47:47 -0500
 From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[snip]

 Oracle has a nifty little table called DUAL.  It's a system table that
will
 always have only one row.  So, if you Select nextval from Dual you will
 have a unique id you can then store in a variable and use for inserts.  If
 you use this for all your tables, then your ID values will be different in
 all of your tables, an interesting thing to play with in joins or table
 merges.  No record will ever have the same ID.  Beware, I have heard of
 resetting the Dual Table.  Never had it happen to me.

This is completely off-base.  Instead of using the Identity feature which
SQL Server has (which is a counter attached to a particular column on a
table in the DB), Oracle has separate objects called Sequences.  These are
basically counter objects with extreme flexibility. Someone (usually a DBA,
but it's trivial to do so) must set up a sequence for you to use before you
can actually do something like: SELECT thisSq.NEXTVAL FROM SYS.DUAL.
These sequences do not magically appear.

Having the new row-ids selected explicitly from a separate table avoids the
potential ID contention issue which SQL Server has due to the fact the IDs
are implicit, and a long data insert sometimes causes SQL Server to give two
requests the same ID. (One way to avoid that is insert a NULL row first, get
the ID, and then do an update on that row).

There is nothing special about the so-called DUAL table. It's simply a dummy
table.  You could just as easily select the next value in a sequence from
any table (or the sysdate for that matter, as in SELECT sysdate FROM
SYS.DUAL).  Doing it from DUAL makes more sense since it is ever-present
(and locks you into using Oracle, hahaha :).

No offense Rick.  I just wanted to ensure people knew what exactly the deal
was with Sequences in Oracle.

Cheers,

Kreig


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FTP vs HTTP

2002-02-20 Thread Rick Walters

Hi Everyone,
 
I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is
better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server
environment.  Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant
number of people must download monthly.  The question is: What advantage
could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link?  Opening an anonymous
FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint.  But, we
are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free
up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm
requests.  
 
Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in.  Or, if you know where I
could find more information on this topic, send me a note.  Thanks.
 
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RE: FTP vs HTTP

2002-02-20 Thread Rick Walters

Good Suggestions, I agree that FTP is a better way to push large files.
Problem is, I need to justify opening an anonymous access.  The idea 
that it
might boost performance would be a plus, but I'm having trouble finding
comparisons.  

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP

Ditto to howie - http servers and processes are also usually configured 
to
timeout long running request in order to enhance server performance 
and
overall user experience.  FTP is a better choice.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP


For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is 
for.
Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for
one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web
clients support it).  And, although there may or may not be a
risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of 
a
security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO.

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message -
From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM
Subject: FTP vs HTTP


 Hi Everyone,

 I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest 
when it
is
 better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web 
server
 environment.  Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a 
significant
 number of people must download monthly.  The question is: What 
advantage
 could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link?  Opening an 
anonymous
 FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint.  
But, we
 are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would 
possibly
free
 up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of 
*.cfm
 requests.

 Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in.  Or, if you know 
where I
 could find more information on this topic, send me a note.  Thanks.

 Good Fortune,
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RE: Inserting and CFTransaction

2002-02-15 Thread Rick Walters

It seems that many problems I see in this list revolve around determining
the next record for an insert and methods to use cftransaction as a form of
database locking to achieve this purpose.  So, I figured I would add two
cents that might help some of you.  

First, what you can do is determined by what product you are using.

Oracle has a nifty little table called DUAL.  It's a system table that will
always have only one row.  So, if you Select nextval from Dual you will
have a unique id you can then store in a variable and use for inserts.  If
you use this for all your tables, then your ID values will be different in
all of your tables, an interesting thing to play with in joins or table
merges.  No record will ever have the same ID.  Beware, I have heard of
resetting the Dual Table.  Never had it happen to me.

Access doesn't have any good way to prevent the multiple simultaneous insert
problem.  So, by using CFCatch, and CFTransaction you can catch the error of
the second insert, rollback the changes and try again with a new value.
CFTransaction seems to suggest that your set of queries will all run
sequentially and then allow others to access the instance.  But, in truth, I
don't think the tables are locked.  Surrounding the code with CFLock will
supposedly single thread your server's requests, and if your server has
exclusive access to the datasource, that's great.  If others also access
your datasource, then even that won't help you.  But, let's get realistic.
If you're using Access, you can achieve a more than reasonable level of
success using CFLock, CFCatch and CFTransaction.  (does CFTransaction roll
back in Access, I can't remember)

SQL Server is a bit different.  You could use the Access method above with
reasonable success.  However, you would be better off to use something like
the following code.

cfquery name=insertPeople datasource=#dsn1#
set nocount on
insert into people 
values
('#thepassword#', '#theusername#'')
SELECT lastid = @@identity
set nocount off
/cfquery

Surround this query with CFLock, CFCatch, and CFTransaction to make it
almost bulletproof.  Simply refer to #insertPeople.lastid# in the subsequent
queries wherever you want to sync the new id.

Of course, the very best way to make 100% certain that you are preserving
the ID in SQL server or Oracle is to use a Stored Procedure and lock the
tables while executing the methods above.  

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RE: Inserting and CFTransaction (correction)

2002-02-15 Thread Rick Walters

cfquery name=insertPeople datasource=#dsn1#
set nocount on
insert into people 
(password, username)
values
('#thepassword#', '#theusername#'')
SELECT lastid = @@identity
set nocount off
/cfquery

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Inserting and CFTransaction

It seems that many problems I see in this list revolve around 
determining
the next record for an insert and methods to use cftransaction as a 
form of
database locking to achieve this purpose.  So, I figured I would add 
two
cents that might help some of you. 

First, what you can do is determined by what product you are using.

Oracle has a nifty little table called DUAL.  It's a system table that 
will
always have only one row.  So, if you Select nextval from Dual you 
will
have a unique id you can then store in a variable and use for inserts.  
If
you use this for all your tables, then your ID values will be different 
in
all of your tables, an interesting thing to play with in joins or table
merges.  No record will ever have the same ID.  Beware, I have heard of
resetting the Dual Table.  Never had it happen to me.

Access doesn't have any good way to prevent the multiple simultaneous 
insert
problem.  So, by using CFCatch, and CFTransaction you can catch the 
error of
the second insert, rollback the changes and try again with a new value.
CFTransaction seems to suggest that your set of queries will all run
sequentially and then allow others to access the instance.  But, in 
truth, I
don't think the tables are locked.  Surrounding the code with CFLock 
will
supposedly single thread your server's requests, and if your server has
exclusive access to the datasource, that's great.  If others also 
access
your datasource, then even that won't help you.  But, let's get 
realistic.
If you're using Access, you can achieve a more than reasonable level of
success using CFLock, CFCatch and CFTransaction.  (does CFTransaction 
roll
back in Access, I can't remember)

SQL Server is a bit different.  You could use the Access method above 
with
reasonable success.  However, you would be better off to use something 
like
the following code.

cfquery name=insertPeople datasource=#dsn1#
set nocount on
insert into people
values
('#thepassword#', '#theusername#'')
SELECT lastid = @@identity
set nocount off
/cfquery

Surround this query with CFLock, CFCatch, and CFTransaction to make it
almost bulletproof.  Simply refer to #insertPeople.lastid# in the 
subsequent
queries wherever you want to sync the new id.

Of course, the very best way to make 100% certain that you are 
preserving
the ID in SQL server or Oracle is to use a Stored Procedure and lock 
the
tables while executing the methods above. 

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RE: Inserting and CFTransaction

2002-02-15 Thread Rick Walters

Thanks for the clarification on Access, I believe you're right since 
it's
not a truly relational product.  However, I always use CFTry and 
CFCatch
with Inserts and Update queries.  The majority of errors occur when
modifying the data.  So, even if I roll back the change, I want to 
catch the
error and redirect the user as well as send myself a note along with 
the
malformed query to troubleshoot the code.  CFTry and CFCatch were the 
tags I
hated the most when I first started using them since they made it 
harder to
debug.  But after I made up my own tags to handle the errors, they 
became my
best friends.  I will admit, however, that they clutter the code a bit.

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Inserting and CFTransaction

 Access doesn't have any good way to prevent the multiple
 simultaneous insert problem. So, by using CFCatch, and
 CFTransaction you can catch the error of the second insert,
 rollback the changes and try again with a new value.
 CFTransaction seems to suggest that your set of queries
 will all run sequentially and then allow others to access
 the instance. But, in truth, I don't think the tables are
 locked.

In Access, whenever a record within a table is modified, the entire 
table is
exclusively locked. So, with CFTRANSACTION around both the query that
modifies a record, and the query that retrieves the autonumber value, 
no one
else will be able to access the table and insert another record until 
the
transaction has completed.

With other platforms, however, such as SQL Server, the entire table 
won't be
locked.

Note that there's no need to use CFTRY/CFCATCH in the above example, 
unless
your intent is to check a unique index or something along those lines.

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