[jira] Commented: (JELLY-177) In JellyServlet, the procedure used to determine the script's location is too simplistic

2005-01-24 Thread Marc DeXeT (JIRA)
 [ 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-177?page=comments#action_57998 ]
 
Marc DeXeT commented on JELLY-177:
--

hans Gilde said :
  Marc, could you give me an example of someting that works after this change 
 but not before? 

Sure.

It's about url mapping.
I have create a little jelly web library (remind me to ask to create a new 
subproject jelly web :)) where you can create a web page as a JSP : include, 
forward and so on.

An url is http://myhost:8082/demo/appli.jelly?page=browse.jelly

URL mapping is in WEB-INF/web.xml
...
servlet
  servlet-nameJelly/servlet-name
  
servlet-classfr.dsi.cnrs.jetty.servlet.ImprovedCachedJellyServlet/servlet-class
 
/servlet
...
servlet-mapping
servlet-nameJelly/servlet-name
url-pattern*.jelly/url-pattern
/servlet-mapping

when such url-mapping is used, the /appli.jelly part of path is not in 
javax.servlet.http.HttpServletRequest.getPathInfo() _BUT_ in 
javax.servlet.http.HttpServletRequest.getServletInfo().

So I get the script with this last (getServletInfo).

So this improvement (JELLY-177) enable real url-mapping to a jellyServlet.

Do I have answered to you ?

Waht do you think about create a jelly-web sandbox to use jelly script as an 
full web application script ? :)

 In JellyServlet, the procedure used to determine the script's location is too 
 simplistic
 

  Key: JELLY-177
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-177
  Project: jelly
 Type: Bug
   Components: core / taglib.core
 Versions: 1.0-beta-5, 1.0-RC1
  Environment: Servlet, 1.0RC1
 Reporter: Denis Robert
 Priority: Minor
  Fix For: 1.0-RC2


 In JellyServlet, the procedure used to determine the script's location is too 
 simplistic; it misses simple cases like the a *.jelly servlet-mapping.
 I suggest replacing the getScript method with something like (taken in part 
 from the Freemarker servlet):
 protected URL getScript(HttpServletRequest req)
   throws MalformedURLException {
   String scriptUrl = null;
   
   String includedPath = (String) 
 req.getAttribute(javax.servlet.include.servlet_path);
   if (includedPath != null) { //This is the result of a 
 RequestDispatcher include...
   String includedPathInfo = (String) 
 req.getAttribute(javax.servlet.include.path_info);
   if (includedPathInfo != null) {
   scriptUrl = includedPathInfo;
   } else {
   scriptUrl = includedPath;
   }
   } else {
   scriptUrl = req.getParameter(script);
   if (scriptUrl == null) {
   scriptUrl = req.getPathInfo();
   }
   if (scriptUrl == null) {
   scriptUrl = req.getServletPath();
   }
   }
   
   URL url = getServletContext().getResource(scriptUrl);
   if (url == null) {
   throw new IllegalArgumentException(Invalid script url:
   + scriptUrl);
   }
   return url;
   }

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Re: [contract] Suggestions

2005-01-24 Thread Matthijs Wensveen

Let user decides what form choose to use right? Good, I think is a very good
idea!!! If he wants a programmatic or declarative form he only need to
decide!!
 

Hi,
I've been reading this thread and I think Woody's suggestion to let the 
user decide is a really good one. It would not even be hard to parse 
some xml and turn them into Constraints objects. It'd be really great to 
see some metadata features of Java 1.5 in this project as I think that 
metadata is perfectly suited for this kind of stuff.
But to let the user decide what form to choose could never be a bad thing :)

Just my 2c,
Matthijs.
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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly maven.xml

2005-01-24 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Would be fine with that as well. I noticed java:compile isn't invoked 
if there's no modified java sources... is java:jar-resources invoked 
every time maven jar is done ? (like, I think this too much btw, test)

paul
Le 24 janv. 05, à 01:40, Brett Porter a écrit :
FYI, a postgoal on java:jar-resources is more appropriate than on 
java:compile.

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[jira] Resolved: (JELLY-145) jelly -version should answer

2005-01-24 Thread Paul Libbrecht (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-145?page=history ]
 
Paul Libbrecht resolved JELLY-145:
--

  Assign To: Paul Libbrecht
 Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version: 1.0-RC2

Now comitted a fix.
Thanks to close to confirm.
paul

 jelly -version should answer
 

  Key: JELLY-145
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-145
  Project: jelly
 Type: Improvement
   Components: core / taglib.core
 Versions: 1.0-beta-4
 Reporter: Paul Libbrecht
 Assignee: Paul Libbrecht
 Priority: Critical
  Fix For: 1.0-RC2


 Currently jelly -version responds an exception whereas every normal 
 software would like to have a current version given.
 This could be assorted to the version of each taglib (e.g. jelly 
 --tagLibVersion=swing).
 My best wish would be to output this automagically out of the project.xml... 
 I am pretty sure maven users have requested, made, or even standardized this 
 already...
 thanks
 paul

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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly maven.xml

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Would be fine with that as well. I noticed java:compile isn't invoked 
if there's no modified java sources... 
it's always invoked, it only compiles what is changed
is java:jar-resources invoked every time maven jar is done ? 
yes, but only copies what is changed (unless filtering is on)
(like, I think this too much btw, test)
I'm not sure what you mean here?
- Brett
paul
Le 24 janv. 05, à 01:40, Brett Porter a écrit :
FYI, a postgoal on java:jar-resources is more appropriate than on 
java:compile.

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[jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Hi,
I did some testing and can confirm that the current site generation 
memory leak occurs here:

   j:file name=${outFile} encoding=${outputencoding}
 omitXmlDeclaration=true outputMode=xml
 prettyPrint=no
--  j:include uri=${stylesheet.toString()}/
   /j:file
If I remove the include, nothing is leaked. So, while this is obviously 
a whole lot of additional Jelly (actually, its this: 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk/xdoc/src/plugin-resources/site.jsl); 
it is just Jelly - nothing about Maven's context creation AFAICT.

j:include does a context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), 
isInherit()); which is when the caching occurs, right?

So are there any further ideas about where the leak is? IS it the JSL 
used in site.jsl, the j:include itself, or something else? Do you need 
me to do more narrowing down within site.jsl or does someone have a hunch?

Thanks,
Brett
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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly maven.xml

2005-01-24 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Le 24 janv. 05, à 12:09, Brett Porter a écrit :
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Would be fine with that as well. I noticed java:compile isn't invoked 
if there's no modified java sources...
it's always invoked, it only compiles what is changed
The postGoal is not invoked... that's my problem.
is java:jar-resources invoked every time maven jar is done ?
yes, but only copies what is changed (unless filtering is on)
There's no copy here, I'm injecting directly into target/classes/... 
The question is about postGoal invocation.

(like, I think this too much btw, test)
I'm not sure what you mean here?
That making maven jar always runs the unit-tests where there are 
situations (e.g. when working on the website) that the project.xml, 
maven.xml, project.properties, and all source files are not changed so 
that tests have no reasons to reflect anything new.
But I fear this is close to a religious war...
I prefer tests to be thick and covering a lot than being a snap...

paul
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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly maven.xml

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter

The postGoal is not invoked... that's my problem.
It should be. If this is on jelly, I can give it a quick test now.
I'm not sure what you mean here?
(like, I think this too much btw, test)
That making maven jar always runs the unit-tests where there are 
situations (e.g. when working on the website) that the project.xml, 
maven.xml, project.properties, and all source files are not changed so 
that tests have no reasons to reflect anything new.
Right, we have definitely talked about:
- making sure tests only run once per session
- and/or only when changed.
Makes sense, but doesn't fit the current architecture well.
But I fear this is close to a religious war...
yep, that's why maven.test.skip exists
I prefer tests to be thick and covering a lot than being a snap...
Maven's encouragement is to run them often, and so keep them simple. If 
you have comprehensive, long tests like the memory leak tests, they 
should be a separate test suite, run pre-commit, through continuous 
integration, and pre-release but not necessarily for every change.

Most of the time, the thick tests tend to be integration tests rather 
than unit tests.

- Brett
paul
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Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
far-away stylesheet...

Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
(and the other call).
Maybe that'll help.
In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.

Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?

paul
Le 24 janv. 05, à 12:35, Brett Porter a écrit :
Hi,
I did some testing and can confirm that the current site generation  
memory leak occurs here:

   j:file name=${outFile} encoding=${outputencoding}
 omitXmlDeclaration=true outputMode=xml
 prettyPrint=no
--  j:include uri=${stylesheet.toString()}/
   /j:file
If I remove the include, nothing is leaked. So, while this is  
obviously a whole lot of additional Jelly (actually, its this:  
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk/xdoc/src/ 
plugin-resources/site.jsl); it is just Jelly - nothing about Maven's  
context creation AFAICT.

j:include does a context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(),  
isInherit()); which is when the caching occurs, right?

So are there any further ideas about where the leak is? IS it the JSL  
used in site.jsl, the j:include itself, or something else? Do you need  
me to do more narrowing down within site.jsl or does someone have a  
hunch?

Thanks,
Brett
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly maven.xml

2005-01-24 Thread brett
brett   2005/01/24 04:19:44

  Modified:jellymaven.xml
  Log:
  adjust generation of version/timestamp
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.93  +6 -6  jakarta-commons/jelly/maven.xml
  
  Index: maven.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-commons/jelly/maven.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.92
  retrieving revision 1.93
  diff -u -r1.92 -r1.93
  --- maven.xml 24 Jan 2005 00:34:06 -  1.92
  +++ maven.xml 24 Jan 2005 12:19:44 -  1.93
  @@ -48,13 +48,13 @@
 !-- == --
   
 !-- build the timestamp after compiling --
  -  postGoal name=java:compile
  -echo 
file=${maven.build.dest}/org/apache/commons/jelly/jelly-version.txt
  -  ${pom.currentVersion}/echo
  +  postGoal name=java:jar-resources
  +j:file 
name=${maven.build.dest}/org/apache/commons/jelly/jelly-version.txt 
omitXmlDeclaration=true
  +  ${pom.currentVersion}/j:file
   tstampformat property=now pattern=-MM-dd kk:mm:ss 
zzz//tstamp
  -echo 
file=${maven.build.dest}/org/apache/commons/jelly/jelly-build-date.txt
  -  ${now}/echo
  -/postGoal
  +j:file 
name=${maven.build.dest}/org/apache/commons/jelly/jelly-build-date.txt 
omitXmlDeclaration=true
  +  ${now}/j:file
  +  /postGoal
 
 !-- create the lib and bin directories in the binary distro --
 preGoal name=dist:build
  
  
  

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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly maven.xml

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Brett Porter wrote:

The postGoal is not invoked... that's my problem.

It should be. If this is on jelly, I can give it a quick test now.
Changed, though I think it already worked. You may have been decieved by 
the fact that nothing is output unless it outputs something, but it is 
working now. I changed it from echo file / to j:file /, being jelly 
after all :)

- Brett
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory - Imported sources

2005-01-24 Thread brett
brett   2005/01/24 04:24:06

  Log:
  import a memory tag library to help debugging leaks mid jelly script
  
  Status:
  
  Vendor Tag:   ASF
  Release Tags: INIT
  
  N jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/.cvsignore
  N jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/project.xml
  N 
jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/src/java/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/memory/FreeMemoryTag.java
  N 
jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/src/java/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/memory/GcTag.java
  N 
jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/src/java/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/memory/MemoryTagLibrary.java
  N jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/xdocs/changes.xml
  N jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/xdocs/index.xml
  N jakarta-commons/jelly/jelly-tags/memory/xdocs/navigation.xml
  
  No conflicts created by this import

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Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
far-away stylesheet...
I'll try and narrow it down first by cutting down site.jsl to the 
minimum that leaks.

Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
(and the other call).
so try with context.clear() inside IncludeTag? Ok, will try tomorrow.
Maybe that'll help.
In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.
It leaks 200k every time site.jsl is run, so should be easy to find, 
right? :)

Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?
easiest to run it against Maven's trunk really as it is compatible with 
Jelly RC2 (RC1 was broken, so it currently uses beta-4 until RC2 is 
released). RC2 won't work with Maven 1.0.x.

If you want to give it a go:
- check out Maven from SVN and build:
   svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/core/trunk 
maven-1/core/trunk
   svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk 
maven-1/plugins/trunk
- build maven inside maven-1/core/trunk (see 
http://www.apache.org/~brett/maven-stage-site/developers/building-from-source.html, 
make sure you reassign a new MAVEN_HOME!)
- run maven xdoc and watch memory go...
- twiddle xdoc plugin and run maven plugin:install to test. Use the 
memory tag lib I just added to jelly to test. memory:gc/ and 
memory:showFree /.

Hopefully I'll have more information tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. I'm 
keen to kill this before Jelly 1.0 if possible.

Thanks,
Brett
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33221] New: - null pointer exception in LogFactory.getLog

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   Summary: null pointer exception in LogFactory.getLog
   Product: Commons
   Version: 1.0.4
  Platform: Macintosh
OS/Version: Mac OS X 10.3
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: Logging
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In running the LoggingTrial example from the book Pro Jakarta Commons by Oak 
from Apress on 
MacOSX 10.3.7, java version 1.4.2_05-141.3, I get the following error:

run_example:
 [java] Exception in thread main 
org.apache.commons.logging.LogConfigurationException: 
org.apache.commons.logging.LogConfigurationException: 
java.lang.NullPointerException (Caused by 
java.lang.NullPointerException) (Caused by 
org.apache.commons.logging.LogConfigurationException: 
java.lang.NullPointerException (Caused by java.lang.NullPointerException))
 [java] at 
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.newInstance(LogFactoryImpl.java:543)
 [java] at 
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getInstance(LogFactoryImpl.java:235)
 [java] at 
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getInstance(LogFactoryImpl.java:209)
 [java] at 
org.apache.commons.logging.LogFactory.getLog(LogFactory.java:351)
 [java] at com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial.main(LoggingTrial.java:8)
 [java] Caused by: org.apache.commons.logging.LogConfigurationException: 
java.lang.NullPointerException (Caused by java.lang.NullPointerException)
 [java] at 
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getLogConstructor(LogFactoryImpl.java:397)
 [java] at 
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.newInstance(LogFactoryImpl.java:529)
 [java] ... 4 more
 [java] Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
 [java] at 
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getLogConstructor(LogFactoryImpl.java:374)
 [java] ... 5 more

Up to this point everything in the book worked. I doubt user error. MacOSX java 
implementation?

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-01-24 17:27 ---
I downloaded the example and tried it successfully on Windows XP with Java
1.4.2_06. Note that my locale is set to sv_SE. Here is the output:

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2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
INFO: INFO TEST
2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
INFO: INFO TEST
java.lang.Exception: A DUMMY EXCEPTION
at com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial.main(LoggingTrial.java:14)
2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
VARNING: WARN TEST
2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
VARNING: WARN TEST
java.lang.Exception: A DUMMY EXCEPTION
at com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial.main(LoggingTrial.java:14)
2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
ALLVARLIG: ERROR TEST
2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
ALLVARLIG: ERROR TEST
java.lang.Exception: A DUMMY EXCEPTION
at com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial.main(LoggingTrial.java:14)
2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
ALLVARLIG: FATAL TEST
2005-jan-24 17:19:46 com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial main
ALLVARLIG: FATAL TEST
java.lang.Exception: A DUMMY EXCEPTION
at com.commonsbook.chap3.LoggingTrial.main(LoggingTrial.java:14)


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Re: [logging] API - methods for logging entry and exit events

2005-01-24 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Richard Sitze wrote on 2005-01-21 20:07:49:
The purpose of logging is to capture enough state of a system, so that
when you identify *where* the error occurs in the logs, you have
information that can help you identify the cause of the error.
Class/method 'boundries' are convenient for many reasons, not least of
which is that in a well designed [dare I say OO?] modularized software
component the methods are [typically] relatively short and functionally
defined by their parameters.  Stack traces for exceptions [if you HAVE an
exception] can identify a method, but don't capture the state of the
system in the same way that an entry log entry [eeks] would.  Entry/exit
help you identify the state of the system at the time a fault occurs, and
in many cases can identify the fault itself.
In other words, you are advocating the use of logging as a sort of
persistent debugger. Clearly, a debugger can provide a perfectly
detailed view of the system, down to the register level. However, no
one usually cares about that much detail. Not only is that level of
detail distracting, it will noticeably slow down the application and
hog megabytes of disk space. Is indiscriminate logging IBM's secret
justification for ever bigger and faster machines?
Likewise, errors can be caused by earlier eventsthe entry/exit flow
information can help identify the factors related to such.. again based on
conveniant boundries in the code.
Theoretically speaking, there is no denying that as the quantity of
information about the system increases, so does the probability of
finding the cause of a given error. But where do you stop?
I do agree that with some serious planning [thought], and effort that
there may be more helpful bits of information to log in some cases, but if
experience shows anything it is that these are typically identified from
hindsight in many components.  We don't always *have* the luxury of
hindsight.  In these cases, the more information logged the better.
Let me present this from a different angle.
Logging is about fixing the next run, not the current one. The current
one failed, rememberer? So, in some sense, you always have the luxury
of hindsight, almost by construction.
You can rely on log files with tons and tons of noise, or you can look
at less detailed logs but which still provide a view of the big
picture. Armed with the big picture you can try to reproduce the
problem on your side. Once you are able to reproduce the error, you can
fix it.
entry/exit logging is a best-practice that is *easily* understood by
developers, it provides a minimal set of information that can offer a
significant improvement over speriodic logging within the code.

Now... if you feel that such methods are not appropriate for the 'general'
case... while I disagree, I won't argue *too* strongly.. but I would point
out that we have requested these API's under the guise of 'Enterprise
Logging' services ;-).
Now that you mention it, one the reasons which got me working on log4j
and its filtering mechanisms, was the thousands of lines of garbage
generated by the logs of an IBM product, which will go unnamed
here. You seem approach logging from a different perspective
altogether:
  Dump as much information as you can, worry about sorting through
  the mess later.
Is that a fair description?
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[contract] OCL implementation

2005-01-24 Thread agodinhost
Anyone here knows this compiler?
Dresden OCL Toolkit (http://dresden-ocl.sourceforge.net)

Woody


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Re: [logging] API - methods for logging entry and exit events

2005-01-24 Thread Craig McClanahan
Ceki,

You seem oddly disparaging of a technology that you've created one of
the standard packages for :-), so let's explore a couple of your
thoughts from a different perspective.


On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:06:21 +0100, Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Richard Sitze wrote on 2005-01-21 20:07:49:
 
  The purpose of logging is to capture enough state of a system, so that
  when you identify *where* the error occurs in the logs, you have
  information that can help you identify the cause of the error.
  Class/method 'boundries' are convenient for many reasons, not least of
  which is that in a well designed [dare I say OO?] modularized software
  component the methods are [typically] relatively short and functionally
  defined by their parameters.  Stack traces for exceptions [if you HAVE an
  exception] can identify a method, but don't capture the state of the
  system in the same way that an entry log entry [eeks] would.  Entry/exit
  help you identify the state of the system at the time a fault occurs, and
  in many cases can identify the fault itself.
 
 In other words, you are advocating the use of logging as a sort of
 persistent debugger. Clearly, a debugger can provide a perfectly
 detailed view of the system, down to the register level. However, no
 one usually cares about that much detail. Not only is that level of
 detail distracting, it will noticeably slow down the application and
 hog megabytes of disk space. Is indiscriminate logging IBM's secret
 justification for ever bigger and faster machines?

I'm certainly not a universal example of how developers work, but
thinking back over 25 effort of work in this field, I have
consistently found logging more helpful (and interactive debugging
less than helpful) at understanding the behavior of complex systems. 
It's great to be able to dive in with a debugger and see aha, that
value is set to 'foo' but it should really have been 'bar' -- but
that tends not to be the kind of mistake that I make.  I usually get
the overall control flow wrong when I blow it ... and in a complex
system (especially multithreaded ones) it becomes difficult and/or
tiresome to locate these kinds of problems with debugging.  If I can
go back and tweak some logging levels, though, problems like this
become much easier to locate.

This isn't an argument for or against enter() and exit() as entry
points in a logging API (I'm not a fan yet, but not an opponent
either) -- but your arguments aren't about that either.  You're simply
arguing against logging at all, which doesn't seem to make sense to
me.

 
  Likewise, errors can be caused by earlier eventsthe entry/exit flow
  information can help identify the factors related to such.. again based on
  conveniant boundries in the code.
 
 Theoretically speaking, there is no denying that as the quantity of
 information about the system increases, so does the probability of
 finding the cause of a given error. But where do you stop?

You stop adding logging messages when you stop running into bugs :-). 
But you don't leave them enabled all the time, either.  Or, at least
*I* don't.  If someone wants to leave Digester's debugging level set
to trace all the time (which will generate quite a lot of output),
though, that's not my concern anyway -- that is the conscious choice
of the developer that is using it.

On the other hand, without those logging statements being available,
it is pretty difficult for most people to understand the dynamic
behavior of something based on a SAX parser (as Digester is), which is
pretty much backwards to the way most people write code.  The ability
to turn on those log messages on once in a while is tremendously
helpful for this purpose.

 
  I do agree that with some serious planning [thought], and effort that
  there may be more helpful bits of information to log in some cases, but if
  experience shows anything it is that these are typically identified from
  hindsight in many components.  We don't always *have* the luxury of
  hindsight.  In these cases, the more information logged the better.
 
 Let me present this from a different angle.
 
 Logging is about fixing the next run, not the current one. The current
 one failed, rememberer? So, in some sense, you always have the luxury
 of hindsight, almost by construction.
 
 You can rely on log files with tons and tons of noise, or you can look
 at less detailed logs but which still provide a view of the big
 picture. Armed with the big picture you can try to reproduce the
 problem on your side. Once you are able to reproduce the error, you can
 fix it.
 
  entry/exit logging is a best-practice that is *easily* understood by
  developers, it provides a minimal set of information that can offer a
  significant improvement over speriodic logging within the code.
  
  Now... if you feel that such methods are not appropriate for the 'general'
  case... while I disagree, I won't argue *too* strongly.. but I would point
  out that we have requested 

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-24 Thread Mark R. Diggory
+1
-Mark Diggory
Jerome Jar wrote:
+1
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and
testing.
This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN.  If this vote
passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration
time possible.
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Re: [logging] API - methods for logging entry and exit events

2005-01-24 Thread Richard Sitze
Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/24/2005 11:06:21 AM:

 Richard Sitze wrote on 2005-01-21 20:07:49:
 
  The purpose of logging is to capture enough state of a system, so that
  when you identify *where* the error occurs in the logs, you have
  information that can help you identify the cause of the error.
  Class/method 'boundries' are convenient for many reasons, not least of
  which is that in a well designed [dare I say OO?] modularized software
  component the methods are [typically] relatively short and 
functionally
  defined by their parameters.  Stack traces for exceptions [if you 
HAVE an
  exception] can identify a method, but don't capture the state of the
  system in the same way that an entry log entry [eeks] would. 
Entry/exit
  help you identify the state of the system at the time a fault occurs, 
and
  in many cases can identify the fault itself.
 
 In other words, you are advocating the use of logging as a sort of
 persistent debugger. Clearly, a debugger can provide a perfectly
 detailed view of the system, down to the register level. However, no
 one usually cares about that much detail. Not only is that level of
 detail distracting, it will noticeably slow down the application and
 hog megabytes of disk space. Is indiscriminate logging IBM's secret
 justification for ever bigger and faster machines?

1. It's not indiscriminate logging.  That's why we call it tracing, and 
that's why the logging impls [such as Log4J] allow us to turn it on/off.

2. The fact of the matter is that in many corporate operational 
environments, production-level [that's *not* development] systems are 
guarded carefully.  Installing additional components [debuggers], never 
MIND running them, is not an option.  When one fails to duplicate a 
problem in a development environment, customers *expect* us to be able to 
glean information from productions system that can demonstrate the 
problems.

3. Are your pokes/jabs at me for being an IBM employee necessary?  I've 
spent 2/5 of my career at IBM.  When I exceed 1/2, you come on back and 
I'll listen to you more seriously.

My goal is to be an advocate of the technologies and techniques I see that 
can benefit the community.  I *will* argue for what I believe to be in the 
best interest of the development community.  And when the decisions are 
made, I will support them.  That's the stance I take with my employer: 
defending open-source decisions that I may not agree with.

That I am tainted by my experience, environment, etc., is a fact of life.. 
and part of the process.  It's the strength of open source development. 
It's why we have developers from many backgrounds make up our community.  
Why do you want to make that a negative?

 
  Likewise, errors can be caused by earlier eventsthe entry/exit 
flow
  information can help identify the factors related to such.. again 
based on
  conveniant boundries in the code.
 
 Theoretically speaking, there is no denying that as the quantity of
 information about the system increases, so does the probability of
 finding the cause of a given error. But where do you stop?

I claim that entry/exit at class/method is reasonable.. along with other 
best-practices I've described in other notes.

It's easily identifiable, it's convenient, it's easy to automate [AspectJ 
or other tooling], and more importantly it's *useful*.  Should it stop 
there?  No.  Is it a reasonable, and easily understood, starting point for 
instrumenting code with logging?  Yes.

  I do agree that with some serious planning [thought], and effort that
  there may be more helpful bits of information to log in some cases, 
but if
  experience shows anything it is that these are typically identified 
from
  hindsight in many components.  We don't always *have* the luxury of
  hindsight.  In these cases, the more information logged the better.
 
 Let me present this from a different angle.
 
 Logging is about fixing the next run, not the current one. The current
 one failed, rememberer? So, in some sense, you always have the luxury
 of hindsight, almost by construction.
 
 You can rely on log files with tons and tons of noise, or you can look
 at less detailed logs but which still provide a view of the big
 picture. Armed with the big picture you can try to reproduce the
 problem on your side. Once you are able to reproduce the error, you can
 fix it.

The more you understand about the macro picture, and where a problem lies, 
the more you want information on the micro picture in that area.

I've personally been in situations where the errors could not be 
duplicated in the lab.  Differences in hardware, and in the particular 
case in my mind, even to the extent of different revisions of firmware on 
otherwise similar systems introduce variable that are not always easily 
comprehended.

  entry/exit logging is a best-practice that is *easily* understood by
  developers, it provides a minimal set of information that can offer a
  significant 

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-24 Thread Don Brown
+1 - it really has proved its worth with Struts

Don


On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:14:12 -0500, Mark R. Diggory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1
 
 -Mark Diggory
 
 Jerome Jar wrote:
  +1
 
 
  On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and
 testing.
 
 This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN.  If this vote
 passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration
 time possible.
 
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LogFactoryImpl.java:543

541:if (logMethod != null) {
542:params[0] = this;
543:logMethod.invoke(instance, params);
544:}

So... not sure what version of the code you're using, but looks to me like 
your line#543 can't be the same as the most recent source.  This isn't a 
recent code change either.

Please pull a recent build, retry, and supply us with a stack-trace that 
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I would still like to ensure that you are running this with a recent nightly 
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[lang] new token for FastDateFormat

2005-01-24 Thread Henri Yandell
I just noticed that there's no way to output the milliseconds since
1970 with SimpleDateFormat (or with FastDateFormat). Any interest in
having a token for FastDateFormat that lets you do that?

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Re: [logging] API - methods for logging entry and exit events

2005-01-24 Thread Ceki Gülcü
On 2005-01-24 17:28:06 Craig McClanahan wrote:
I'm certainly not a universal example of how developers work, but
thinking back over 25 effort of work in this field, I have
consistently found logging more helpful (and interactive debugging
less than helpful) at understanding the behavior of complex systems.
It's great to be able to dive in with a debugger and see aha, that
value is set to 'foo' but it should really have been 'bar' -- but
that tends not to be the kind of mistake that I make.  I usually get
the overall control flow wrong when I blow it ... and in a complex
system (especially multithreaded ones) it becomes difficult and/or
tiresome to locate these kinds of problems with debugging.  If I can
go back and tweak some logging levels, though, problems like this
become much easier to locate.
have not looked at a debugger in the last 10 years and have no plans
switching any time soon. :-)
This isn't an argument for or against enter() and exit() as entry
points in a logging API (I'm not a fan yet, but not an opponent
either) -- but your arguments aren't about that either.  You're simply
arguing against logging at all, which doesn't seem to make sense to
me.
I am advocating against *indiscriminate* logging, not logging in
general. Since imho enter/exit methods encourage indiscriminate
logging, they should be avoided. (What indiscriminate logging means is
discussed below.)
Although log4j tries hard to reduce the computational cost of each log
statement, each log statement still has a cost. This cost can range
from just a few nanoseconds, for disabled statements, to roughly 1
millisecond when writing to a database.
On top of their computational cost, enabled log statements have a cost
related to processing by humans. These days, the costs associated with
1 second of (human) brain time is much higher than the cost associated
with 1 second of CPU time.

  Likewise, errors can be caused by earlier eventsthe entry/exit flow
  information can help identify the factors related to such.. again 
based on
  conveniant boundries in the code.

 Theoretically speaking, there is no denying that as the quantity of
 information about the system increases, so does the probability of
 finding the cause of a given error. But where do you stop?

You stop adding logging messages when you stop running into bugs :-).
But you don't leave them enabled all the time, either.  Or, at least
*I* don't.  If someone wants to leave Digester's debugging level set
to trace all the time (which will generate quite a lot of output),
though, that's not my concern anyway -- that is the conscious choice
of the developer that is using it.

On the other hand, without those logging statements being available,
it is pretty difficult for most people to understand the dynamic
behavior of something based on a SAX parser (as Digester is), which is
pretty much backwards to the way most people write code.  The ability
to turn on those log messages on once in a while is tremendously
helpful for this purpose.

Digester is a nice concrete example.
Considering that Digester is a mature package, let us assume that the
logging output is mostly intended to debug digester rule sets, not
Digester itself. In other words, logging will help clarify how
Digester interprets a given set of rules and how it applies them to a
given XML document. I call this use logging as whiteboxing a tool,
for example Digester.
When whiteboxing, the developer of the tool should ideally design the
logs to spit out enough output so that a new user can understand what
the tool is doing, without overwhelming her.
Here is a simple xml document:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
!DOCTYPE hello
hello
  world
  /world
/hello
Here is a sample test application:
import org.apache.commons.digester.*;
import org.xml.sax.Attributes;
public class Dig {
  public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {
Digester digester = new Digester();
digester.addRule(*, new HelloRule());
digester.parse(args[0]);
  }
}
class HelloRule extends Rule {
  // nothing to do
}
When I run 'java Dig hello.xml', it generates the following log
output.
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax - 
setDocumentLocator([EMAIL PROTECTED])
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax - startDocument()
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax - startElement(,,hello)
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester -   Pushing body text ''
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester -   New match='hello'
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester -   No rules found matching 'hello'.
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax - characters()
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax - characters(
)
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax - characters(  )
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax - startElement(,,world)
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester -   Pushing body text '
  '
DEBUG org.apache.commons.digester.Digester -   New match='hello/world'
DEBUG 

[lang] StringUtil reverseSplit

2005-01-24 Thread Hasan Diwan
I noticed this method on the task list, so I've started implementing
it. I have a few questions:
1. Should it allow for nulls as the input string?
2. Is null a permissible delimiter?
3. If the string is mary had a little lamb and reverseSplit is applied to it:
a. if reverse is applied first, we get back bmal elttil a dah yram,
splitting this using   as the delimiter, the first String of the
resulting array is bmal
b. If split is applied first, {mary, had, a, little, lamb},
and reverse yields lamb
Is 3a or 3b the correct behaviour?
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Re: [logging] Context management

2005-01-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi mauro
am i right in thinking that you mean NDC (nested diagnostic context) 
rather than MDC?

as you might have noticed, there's quite a bit of debate at the moment 
about exactly where JCL should actually go.

in the beginning, it was easy. (well actually no, it wasn't easy or fun 
in many other ways but the basic concept was straightforward.) JCL 
would be a thin bridging layer for bricks presenting the bare bones 
functionality required.

even though it suffered from numerous technical imperfections, JCL 
became widely used not just as a solution to the original problem but 
also as a solution to a subtly different one: logging from what might 
loosely be termed enterprise components (large sub-systems which are 
complex enough to be regarded as applications in their own right but 
must be capable of deployment in a variety of environments as parts of 
larger applications). bricks are widely used in enterprise components 
and so this is an important use case for brick developers but 
enterprise components also have needs which bricks don't.

i suspect that a layer to abstract NDCs would be useful for enterprise 
components but not bricks. so, i'd be unlikely to commit any extension 
to JCL in this area. that's where my personal line is drawn. other may 
think differently.

i'd recommend choosing one of the following courses of action:
1. create a bug report and attach your code. join in the current debate 
and lobby for inclusion in JCL2.
2. create a project (at sourceforge, for example) aimed at extending 
JCL to solve problems common to enterprise components. i have high 
hopes that the new discovery code for JCL2 will be much more modular 
and allow others to tap into the same mechanism. if you go down this 
route, feel free to add a link to this new project to the wiki.

- robert
On 23 Jan 2005, at 17:08, Mauro Franceschini wrote:
For my needs I've developed a series of patches to the standard 1.0.4
commons-logging code base in order to make available the MDC (in the
case of log4j) or ContextMap (in the case of logkit) to
commons-logging using applications.
How can I contribute to commons-logging codebase with this new 
functions?

Mauro.
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I am using 1.0.4 version which I believe is the most recent. I have the 
commons-logging in the java 
endorsed directory as well as in a separate classpath listed lib directory. 
Removing it from classpath 
doesn't change anything, have not removed it from endorsed.

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Re: [logging] API - methods for logging entry and exit events

2005-01-24 Thread Ceki Gülcü
On 2005-01-24 19:39:06 Richard Sitze wrote:
1. It's not indiscriminate logging.  That's why we call it tracing, and
that's why the logging impls [such as Log4J] allow us to turn it on/off.

2. The fact of the matter is that in many corporate operational
environments, production-level [that's *not* development] systems are
guarded carefully.  Installing additional components [debuggers], never
MIND running them, is not an option.  When one fails to duplicate a
problem in a development environment, customers *expect* us to be able to
glean information from productions system that can demonstrate the
problems.
I was not suggesting the use of debuggers at all, not one bit. When
you attempt to log everything, then logging can be abstractly viewed
as a persistent debugger.
3. Are your pokes/jabs at me for being an IBM employee necessary?  I've
spent 2/5 of my career at IBM.  When I exceed 1/2, you come on back and
I'll listen to you more seriously.
No jabs at you personally. I am an ex-IBM employee. Some of the IBM
products we struggled with at the time generated so much log output
that I still vividly recall the frustration. The lesson from that
experience:
  Too much logging can as bad as the absence of logging.
My goal is to be an advocate of the technologies and techniques I see that
can benefit the community.  I *will* argue for what I believe to be in the
best interest of the development community.  And when the decisions are
made, I will support them.  That's the stance I take with my employer:
defending open-source decisions that I may not agree with.

That I am tainted by my experience, environment, etc., is a fact of life..
and part of the process.  It's the strength of open source development.
It's why we have developers from many backgrounds make up our community.
Why do you want to make that a negative?
Having personally experienced the negative effects of the approach
advocated by IBM, I am trying to warn to community.  However, you and
IBM have every right to advocate your point of view. I sincerely
apologize if my comments came across as disparaging IBM or you
personally, that was not my intention.
I claim that entry/exit at class/method is reasonable.. along with other
best-practices I've described in other notes.

It's easily identifiable, it's convenient, it's easy to automate [AspectJ
or other tooling], and more importantly it's *useful*.  Should it stop
there?  No.  Is it a reasonable, and easily understood, starting point for
instrumenting code with logging?  Yes.
You can go overboard with logging. Method entry/exit logs happens to
be convenient and easy way of generating tons of garbage. :-)
I've personally been in situations where the errors could not be
duplicated in the lab.  Differences in hardware, and in the particular
case in my mind, even to the extent of different revisions of firmware on
otherwise similar systems introduce variable that are not always easily
comprehended.
Instead of instrument every copy of your application, you can
instrument a special version to identify the problem on that special
environment. Once the problem is identified, you move on. There is no
need to pollute every copy of your application.
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[contract] german translate ...

2005-01-24 Thread Anaximandro (Woody)
Please, anyone with german knowledge can translate the missing parts in
exceptions.xml?

Thanx

Woody

PS: David, I know you knows german (because you write this xml) but can you
do this?


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Re: [lang] new token for FastDateFormat

2005-01-24 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Adding any token would be a backwards incompatible change, as it would 
previously have been output as text.

Why not just have a DateUtils.getMillisAsText(Date) method? (Well maybe 
because it seems like a very odd case.)

Stephen
- Original Message - 
From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just noticed that there's no way to output the milliseconds since
1970 with SimpleDateFormat (or with FastDateFormat). Any interest in
having a token for FastDateFormat that lets you do that?
Hen
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Re: [lang] new token for FastDateFormat

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Last time I checked, Long.toString(date.getTime()) did that anyway, and in less
characters :)

Cheers,
Brett

Quoting Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Adding any token would be a backwards incompatible change, as it would 
 previously have been output as text.
 
 Why not just have a DateUtils.getMillisAsText(Date) method? (Well maybe 
 because it seems like a very odd case.)
 
 Stephen
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I just noticed that there's no way to output the milliseconds since
  1970 with SimpleDateFormat (or with FastDateFormat). Any interest in
  having a token for FastDateFormat that lets you do that?
 
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[contract] german translate

2005-01-24 Thread Anaximandro (Woody)
Please, anyone with german knowledge can translate the missing parts in
exceptions.xml?

Thanx

Woody

PS: David, I know you knows german (because you write this xml) but can you
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codec : Bas64.isArrayByteBase64() issue

2005-01-24 Thread Ezra Epstein
There seem to be 2 issues.

  Only 255 byte values are used when creating 
  base64Alphabet, but there are 256 possible values
  octect (shouldn't that be octet ?) isn't shifted 
  despite the fact that Java uses unsigned bytes. It is used unchanged as 
  on offset into an array (zero based).
As a result I can produce test cases that cause 
isBase64() to throw IndexOutOfBounds exceptions.
While at it, I suggest one line be added to 
discardWhitespace() that will improve performance under some circumstances 
(i.e., when there is no whitespace in the input).
Patch file is attached.Patch file is based on latest version in CVS of Base64.java file: 
1.23
= Ezra E.
P.S., I can provide a jUnit TestCase if that's useful.
--- Base64.java.cvs.1.232005-01-24 16:59:46.211939200 -0800
+++ Base64.java.changed 2005-01-24 17:03:42.782110400 -0800
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
 /**
  * The base length.
  */
-static final int BASELENGTH = 255;
+static final int BASELENGTH = 256;
 
 /**
  * Lookup length.
@@ -162,7 +162,7 @@
 private static boolean isBase64(byte octect) {
 if (octect == PAD) {
 return true;
-} else if (octect  0 || base64Alphabet[octect] == -1) {
+} else if (octect  0 || base64Alphabet[(octect  0) ? octect : 256 + 
octect] == -1) {
 return false;
 } else {
 return true;
@@ -482,6 +482,9 @@
 }
 }
 
+   // Check if we're done and save resources if we are.
+   if (bytesCopied == data.length) return groomedData;
+   
 byte packedData[] = new byte[bytesCopied];
 
 System.arraycopy(groomedData, 0, packedData, 0, bytesCopied);
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Re: [logging] API - methods for logging entry and exit events

2005-01-24 Thread Phil Steitz
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
On 2005-01-24 19:39:06 Richard Sitze wrote:
 1. It's not indiscriminate logging.  That's why we call it tracing, and
 that's why the logging impls [such as Log4J] allow us to turn it on/off.
 
 2. The fact of the matter is that in many corporate operational
 environments, production-level [that's *not* development] systems are
 guarded carefully.  Installing additional components [debuggers], never
 MIND running them, is not an option.  When one fails to duplicate a
 problem in a development environment, customers *expect* us to be able to
 glean information from productions system that can demonstrate the
 problems.
I was not suggesting the use of debuggers at all, not one bit. When
you attempt to log everything, then logging can be abstractly viewed
as a persistent debugger.
 3. Are your pokes/jabs at me for being an IBM employee necessary?  I've
 spent 2/5 of my career at IBM.  When I exceed 1/2, you come on back and
 I'll listen to you more seriously.
No jabs at you personally. I am an ex-IBM employee. Some of the IBM
products we struggled with at the time generated so much log output
that I still vividly recall the frustration. The lesson from that
experience:
  Too much logging can as bad as the absence of logging.
 My goal is to be an advocate of the technologies and techniques I see 
that
 can benefit the community.  I *will* argue for what I believe to be in 
the
 best interest of the development community.  And when the decisions are
 made, I will support them.  That's the stance I take with my employer:
 defending open-source decisions that I may not agree with.
 
 That I am tainted by my experience, environment, etc., is a fact of 
life..
 and part of the process.  It's the strength of open source development.
 It's why we have developers from many backgrounds make up our community.
 Why do you want to make that a negative?

Having personally experienced the negative effects of the approach
advocated by IBM, I am trying to warn to community.  However, you and
IBM have every right to advocate your point of view. I sincerely
apologize if my comments came across as disparaging IBM or you
personally, that was not my intention.
 I claim that entry/exit at class/method is reasonable.. along with other
 best-practices I've described in other notes.
 
 It's easily identifiable, it's convenient, it's easy to automate [AspectJ
 or other tooling], and more importantly it's *useful*.  Should it stop
 there?  No.  Is it a reasonable, and easily understood, starting point 
for
 instrumenting code with logging?  Yes.

You can go overboard with logging. Method entry/exit logs happens to
be convenient and easy way of generating tons of garbage. :-)
 I've personally been in situations where the errors could not be
 duplicated in the lab.  Differences in hardware, and in the particular
 case in my mind, even to the extent of different revisions of firmware on
 otherwise similar systems introduce variable that are not always easily
 comprehended.
Instead of instrument every copy of your application, you can
instrument a special version to identify the problem on that special
environment. Once the problem is identified, you move on. There is no
need to pollute every copy of your application.
While I agree with everything that you have said about indiscriminate 
logging, I think you are missing Richard's point here.  In some 
environments, this sort of ad hoc change is not allowed or cannot be 
executed quickly enough to help resolve a production problem.  The 
relevant information simply needs to be available in the logs.

I agree with you that entry/exit logging and other forms of automatic 
instrumentation can create more problems than they solve.  The challenge 
is to get the right info into the logs without, as you put it, 
polluting them with junk that strains the infrastructure and makes it 
hard to find the relevant info. Sadly, success here depends much less on 
what the logging framework provides than what the developer is thinking 
when deciding when and what to log.

Phil


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RE: codec : Bas64.isArrayByteBase64() issue

2005-01-24 Thread Ezra Epstein



Oooops. Wrong patch 
file. Correct one is attached.

= Ezra E.


From: Ezra Epstein 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Mon 1/24/2005 5:22 PMTo: 
commons-dev@jakarta.apache.orgSubject: codec : 
Bas64.isArrayByteBase64() issue

There seem to be 2 
issues.

  Only 255 byte values are used when creating 
  base64Alphabet, but there are 256 possible values 
  octect (shouldn't that be octet ?) isn't shifted 
  despite the fact that Java uses unsigned bytes. It is used unchanged as 
  on offset into an array (zero based).
As a result I can produce test cases that cause 
isBase64() to throw IndexOutOfBounds exceptions.
While at it, I suggest one line be added to 
discardWhitespace() that will improve performance under some circumstances 
(i.e., when there is no whitespace in the input).
Patch file is attached.Patch file is based on latest version in CVS of Base64.java file: 
1.23
= Ezra E.
P.S., I can provide a jUnit TestCase if that's useful.
--- Base64.java.cvs.1.232005-01-24 16:59:46.211939200 -0800
+++ Base64.java.changed 2005-01-24 17:03:42.782110400 -0800
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
 /**
  * The base length.
  */
-static final int BASELENGTH = 255;
+static final int BASELENGTH = 256;
 
 /**
  * Lookup length.
@@ -162,7 +162,7 @@
 private static boolean isBase64(byte octect) {
 if (octect == PAD) {
 return true;
-} else if (octect  0 || base64Alphabet[octect] == -1) {
+} else if (octect  0 || base64Alphabet[(octect  0) ? 256 + octect : 
octect] == -1) {
 return false;
 } else {
 return true;
@@ -482,6 +482,9 @@
 }
 }
 
+   // Check if we're done and save resources if we are.
+   if (bytesCopied == data.length) return groomedData;
+   
 byte packedData[] = new byte[bytesCopied];
 
 System.arraycopy(groomedData, 0, packedData, 0, bytesCopied);
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RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Hans Gilde
Why won't RC2 work with maven 1.0.x?

-Original Message-
From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:30 AM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

Paul Libbrecht wrote:

 Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
 far-away stylesheet...

I'll try and narrow it down first by cutting down site.jsl to the 
minimum that leaks.


 Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
 context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
 (and the other call).

so try with context.clear() inside IncludeTag? Ok, will try tomorrow.


 Maybe that'll help.
 In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
 see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.

It leaks 200k every time site.jsl is run, so should be easy to find, 
right? :)


 Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
 this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
 maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?

easiest to run it against Maven's trunk really as it is compatible with 
Jelly RC2 (RC1 was broken, so it currently uses beta-4 until RC2 is 
released). RC2 won't work with Maven 1.0.x.

If you want to give it a go:
- check out Maven from SVN and build:
svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/core/trunk 
maven-1/core/trunk
svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk 
maven-1/plugins/trunk
- build maven inside maven-1/core/trunk (see 
http://www.apache.org/~brett/maven-stage-site/developers/building-from-sourc
e.html, 
make sure you reassign a new MAVEN_HOME!)
- run maven xdoc and watch memory go...
- twiddle xdoc plugin and run maven plugin:install to test. Use the 
memory tag lib I just added to jelly to test. memory:gc/ and 
memory:showFree /.

Hopefully I'll have more information tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. I'm 
keen to kill this before Jelly 1.0 if possible.

Thanks,
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RE: [codec] Base64.isArrayByteBase64() issue (WAS: codec : Bas64.isArrayByteBase64() issue)

2005-01-24 Thread Gary Gregory
Hello Ezra:

 

Yes, it would be great if you could provide a unit test patch when you
submit a bug report. This is more effective than me or another codec
volunteer recreating the issue from scratch.

 

It would be best to for you to create a Bugzilla issue when you want to
report an issue in order to make sure it does not get lost.

 

Thank you,

Gary

 



From: Ezra Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:27 PM
To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: codec : Bas64.isArrayByteBase64() issue

 

Oooops.  Wrong patch file.  Correct one is attached.

 

= Ezra E.

 



From: Ezra Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 1/24/2005 5:22 PM
To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: codec : Bas64.isArrayByteBase64() issue

There seem to be 2 issues. 

1.  Only 255 byte values are used when creating base64Alphabet, but
there are 256 possible values 
2.  octect (shouldn't that be octet ?) isn't shifted despite the
fact that Java uses unsigned bytes.  It is used unchanged as on offset
into an array (zero based).

As a result I can produce test cases that cause isBase64() to throw
IndexOutOfBounds exceptions.

While at it, I suggest one line be added to discardWhitespace() that
will improve performance under some circumstances (i.e., when there is
no whitespace in the input).

Patch file is attached.Patch file is based on latest version in CVS of
Base64.java file: 1.23

= Ezra E.

P.S., I can provide a jUnit TestCase if that's useful.

 



RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Because I'd have to backport the fixes to the 1.0.x branch of Maven, which is
closed for development now.

- Brett

Quoting Hans Gilde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Why won't RC2 work with maven 1.0.x?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:30 AM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
 Subject: Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly
 
 Paul Libbrecht wrote:
 
  Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
  far-away stylesheet...
 
 I'll try and narrow it down first by cutting down site.jsl to the 
 minimum that leaks.
 
 
  Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
  context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
  (and the other call).
 
 so try with context.clear() inside IncludeTag? Ok, will try tomorrow.
 
 
  Maybe that'll help.
  In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
  see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.
 
 It leaks 200k every time site.jsl is run, so should be easy to find, 
 right? :)
 
 
  Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
  this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
  maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?
 
 easiest to run it against Maven's trunk really as it is compatible with 
 Jelly RC2 (RC1 was broken, so it currently uses beta-4 until RC2 is 
 released). RC2 won't work with Maven 1.0.x.
 
 If you want to give it a go:
 - check out Maven from SVN and build:
 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/core/trunk 
 maven-1/core/trunk
 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk 
 maven-1/plugins/trunk
 - build maven inside maven-1/core/trunk (see 
 http://www.apache.org/~brett/maven-stage-site/developers/building-from-sourc
 e.html, 
 make sure you reassign a new MAVEN_HOME!)
 - run maven xdoc and watch memory go...
 - twiddle xdoc plugin and run maven plugin:install to test. Use the 
 memory tag lib I just added to jelly to test. memory:gc/ and 
 memory:showFree /.
 
 Hopefully I'll have more information tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. I'm 
 keen to kill this before Jelly 1.0 if possible.
 
 Thanks,
 Brett
 
 
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RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Hans Gilde
There's definitely a leak in the include tag. 

Brett, I'm guessing that this leak also exists pre-RC2, right?

-Original Message-
From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:30 AM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

Paul Libbrecht wrote:

 Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
 far-away stylesheet...

I'll try and narrow it down first by cutting down site.jsl to the 
minimum that leaks.


 Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
 context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
 (and the other call).

so try with context.clear() inside IncludeTag? Ok, will try tomorrow.


 Maybe that'll help.
 In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
 see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.

It leaks 200k every time site.jsl is run, so should be easy to find, 
right? :)


 Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
 this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
 maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?

easiest to run it against Maven's trunk really as it is compatible with 
Jelly RC2 (RC1 was broken, so it currently uses beta-4 until RC2 is 
released). RC2 won't work with Maven 1.0.x.

If you want to give it a go:
- check out Maven from SVN and build:
svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/core/trunk 
maven-1/core/trunk
svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk 
maven-1/plugins/trunk
- build maven inside maven-1/core/trunk (see 
http://www.apache.org/~brett/maven-stage-site/developers/building-from-sourc
e.html, 
make sure you reassign a new MAVEN_HOME!)
- run maven xdoc and watch memory go...
- twiddle xdoc plugin and run maven plugin:install to test. Use the 
memory tag lib I just added to jelly to test. memory:gc/ and 
memory:showFree /.

Hopefully I'll have more information tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. I'm 
keen to kill this before Jelly 1.0 if possible.

Thanks,
Brett


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RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Yup. AFAICT, it's been there since it's creation.

Do you need some additional info from me? I'm happy to try to make a smaller
test case and/or test with Maven later if required.

- Brett

Quoting Hans Gilde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There's definitely a leak in the include tag. 
 
 Brett, I'm guessing that this leak also exists pre-RC2, right?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:30 AM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
 Subject: Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly
 
 Paul Libbrecht wrote:
 
  Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
  far-away stylesheet...
 
 I'll try and narrow it down first by cutting down site.jsl to the 
 minimum that leaks.
 
 
  Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
  context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
  (and the other call).
 
 so try with context.clear() inside IncludeTag? Ok, will try tomorrow.
 
 
  Maybe that'll help.
  In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
  see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.
 
 It leaks 200k every time site.jsl is run, so should be easy to find, 
 right? :)
 
 
  Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
  this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
  maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?
 
 easiest to run it against Maven's trunk really as it is compatible with 
 Jelly RC2 (RC1 was broken, so it currently uses beta-4 until RC2 is 
 released). RC2 won't work with Maven 1.0.x.
 
 If you want to give it a go:
 - check out Maven from SVN and build:
 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/core/trunk 
 maven-1/core/trunk
 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk 
 maven-1/plugins/trunk
 - build maven inside maven-1/core/trunk (see 
 http://www.apache.org/~brett/maven-stage-site/developers/building-from-sourc
 e.html, 
 make sure you reassign a new MAVEN_HOME!)
 - run maven xdoc and watch memory go...
 - twiddle xdoc plugin and run maven plugin:install to test. Use the 
 memory tag lib I just added to jelly to test. memory:gc/ and 
 memory:showFree /.
 
 Hopefully I'll have more information tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. I'm 
 keen to kill this before Jelly 1.0 if possible.
 
 Thanks,
 Brett
 
 
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/core TestCoreMemoryLeak.java

2005-01-24 Thread hgilde
hgilde  2005/01/24 18:53:56

  Modified:jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/core
TestCoreMemoryLeak.java
  Log:
  added a test for a leak in IncludeTag
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.2   +5 -1  
jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/core/TestCoreMemoryLeak.java
  
  Index: TestCoreMemoryLeak.java
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/core/TestCoreMemoryLeak.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.1
  retrieving revision 1.2
  diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
  --- TestCoreMemoryLeak.java   28 Dec 2004 01:39:23 -  1.1
  +++ TestCoreMemoryLeak.java   25 Jan 2005 02:53:56 -  1.2
  @@ -29,7 +29,11 @@
   }
   
   public void testBasicScriptForLeak() throws Exception {
  -assertTrue(runScriptManyTimes(c.jelly, 1)  20);
  +assertTrue(Leak in core library, runScriptManyTimes(c.jelly, 
1)  20);
  +}
  +
  +public void testIncludeTagForLeak() throws Exception {
  +assertTrue(Leak in include tag, runScriptManyTimes(a.jelly, 
1)  20);
   }
   
   }
  
  
  

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RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Hans Gilde
I just added a super-simple test case for the include tag to the core test
suite. Include is a special kind of tag, so hopefully it's the only one
leaking. Once we fix this problem, a retest will definitely be in order.

-Original Message-
From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:47 PM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

Yup. AFAICT, it's been there since it's creation.

Do you need some additional info from me? I'm happy to try to make a smaller
test case and/or test with Maven later if required.

- Brett

Quoting Hans Gilde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There's definitely a leak in the include tag. 
 
 Brett, I'm guessing that this leak also exists pre-RC2, right?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:30 AM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
 Subject: Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly
 
 Paul Libbrecht wrote:
 
  Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
  far-away stylesheet...
 
 I'll try and narrow it down first by cutting down site.jsl to the 
 minimum that leaks.
 
 
  Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
  context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
  (and the other call).
 
 so try with context.clear() inside IncludeTag? Ok, will try tomorrow.
 
 
  Maybe that'll help.
  In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
  see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.
 
 It leaks 200k every time site.jsl is run, so should be easy to find, 
 right? :)
 
 
  Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
  this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
  maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?
 
 easiest to run it against Maven's trunk really as it is compatible with 
 Jelly RC2 (RC1 was broken, so it currently uses beta-4 until RC2 is 
 released). RC2 won't work with Maven 1.0.x.
 
 If you want to give it a go:
 - check out Maven from SVN and build:
 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/core/trunk 
 maven-1/core/trunk
 svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk 
 maven-1/plugins/trunk
 - build maven inside maven-1/core/trunk (see 

http://www.apache.org/~brett/maven-stage-site/developers/building-from-sourc
 e.html, 
 make sure you reassign a new MAVEN_HOME!)
 - run maven xdoc and watch memory go...
 - twiddle xdoc plugin and run maven plugin:install to test. Use the 
 memory tag lib I just added to jelly to test. memory:gc/ and 
 memory:showFree /.
 
 Hopefully I'll have more information tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. I'm 
 keen to kill this before Jelly 1.0 if possible.
 
 Thanks,
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RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly

2005-01-24 Thread Brett Porter
Thanks Hans!

That's what I was thinking of doing, so I'm glad you've got it under control.

When I was testing, the size of the included JSL affected the amount of memory
leaked, so I guess it is tag caching again?

I tried a context.clear[Thread]ScriptData after the execution of runScript in
include, but that didn't help. Unfortunately that's all I had time for this
morning before work.

Good luck...

Cheers,
Brett

Quoting Hans Gilde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I just added a super-simple test case for the include tag to the core test
 suite. Include is a special kind of tag, so hopefully it's the only one
 leaking. Once we fix this problem, a retest will definitely be in order.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:47 PM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
 Subject: RE: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly
 
 Yup. AFAICT, it's been there since it's creation.
 
 Do you need some additional info from me? I'm happy to try to make a smaller
 test case and/or test with Maven later if required.
 
 - Brett
 
 Quoting Hans Gilde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  There's definitely a leak in the include tag. 
  
  Brett, I'm guessing that this leak also exists pre-RC2, right?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:30 AM
  To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
  Subject: Re: [jelly] Maven JSL memory leak and Jelly
  
  Paul Libbrecht wrote:
  
   Ideally, a test-case would be awesome, even if it refers to some  
   far-away stylesheet...
  
  I'll try and narrow it down first by cutting down site.jsl to the 
  minimum that leaks.
  
  
   Can you try calling .clear() on the result of this
   context.runScript(uri, output, isExport(), isInherit())
   (and the other call).
  
  so try with context.clear() inside IncludeTag? Ok, will try tomorrow.
  
  
   Maybe that'll help.
   In all cases, this context is gc-ed shortly after, I believe... so I  
   see no reasons for big leaks at the tag-cache level.
  
  It leaks 200k every time site.jsl is run, so should be easy to find, 
  right? :)
  
  
   Also, maybe it would help to give more details where to go... I think  
   this was reported about very long ago so maybe a distribution  
   maven-1.0.2 or such should have this bug ?
  
  easiest to run it against Maven's trunk really as it is compatible with 
  Jelly RC2 (RC1 was broken, so it currently uses beta-4 until RC2 is 
  released). RC2 won't work with Maven 1.0.x.
  
  If you want to give it a go:
  - check out Maven from SVN and build:
  svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/core/trunk 
  maven-1/core/trunk
  svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-1/plugins/trunk 
  maven-1/plugins/trunk
  - build maven inside maven-1/core/trunk (see 
 
 http://www.apache.org/~brett/maven-stage-site/developers/building-from-sourc
  e.html, 
  make sure you reassign a new MAVEN_HOME!)
  - run maven xdoc and watch memory go...
  - twiddle xdoc plugin and run maven plugin:install to test. Use the 
  memory tag lib I just added to jelly to test. memory:gc/ and 
  memory:showFree /.
  
  Hopefully I'll have more information tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. I'm 
  keen to kill this before Jelly 1.0 if possible.
  
  Thanks,
  Brett
  
  
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[jira] Created: (JELLY-199) Leak in IncludeTag or JellyContext.runScript

2005-01-24 Thread Hans Gilde (JIRA)
Leak in IncludeTag or JellyContext.runScript


 Key: JELLY-199
 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-199
 Project: jelly
Type: Bug
  Components: core / taglib.core  
Versions: 1.0-RC1
Reporter: Hans Gilde
Priority: Critical


Now that the new tag caching has solved some problems, we have a leak in the 
IncludeTag. This leak probably comes from some interaction between 
JellyContext.runScript an the tag cache.

I marked this one critical because it's (hopefully) the last leak affecting 
Maven.

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[i18n] changes

2005-01-24 Thread Anaximandro (Woody)
How can I send some changes I have made in i18n? David?

I see some guys putting cvs dif here. This is the normal process?

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33228] New: - Can't access mapped property in some case

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   Summary: Can't access mapped property in some case
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In the following case, access to mapped property fails by 
IllegalAccessException.

Assume that 'bean' is an instance of package scoped class
which implements public interface 'I', and interface 'I' has 
a method 'getValue(String key)'.
In the case PropertyUtils.getProperty(bean, value(key)) is called,
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This is sample codes to see the issue. After Compiling, please
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[jira] Commented: (JELLY-199) Leak in IncludeTag or JellyContext.runScript

2005-01-24 Thread Hans Gilde (JIRA)
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http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-199?page=comments#action_58027 ]
 
Hans Gilde commented on JELLY-199:
--

It's definitely something to do with JellyContext.runScript

 Leak in IncludeTag or JellyContext.runScript
 

  Key: JELLY-199
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-199
  Project: jelly
 Type: Bug
   Components: core / taglib.core
 Versions: 1.0-RC1
 Reporter: Hans Gilde
 Priority: Critical


 Now that the new tag caching has solved some problems, we have a leak in the 
 IncludeTag. This leak probably comes from some interaction between 
 JellyContext.runScript an the tag cache.
 I marked this one critical because it's (hopefully) the last leak affecting 
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28358] - [beanutils] Problems on indexed property with JDK 1.4

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Additional test for BeanUtilsBean to show problem with indexed property

(In reply to comment #10)
 The only observation I have on this is that you are naming your property and 

 indexed property methods with the same name. If you modify one of the method 

 names does it then work properly?

This came up again on the struts user list:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-userm=110660079112504w=2

Having four accessor methods for an indexed property is legal according to 7.2
and 8.3.3 of the JavaBeans specification.

I'm attaching a patch to BeanUtilsTestCase and a bean with a single indexed
property to illustrate the problem.

This test fails with the same error noted in the struts-user message:
 [java] There was 1 error:
 [java] 1)
testIndexedProperty(org.apache.commons.beanutils.BeanUtilsTestCas
e)java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot invoke
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[DBCP] Management of transactions...

2005-01-24 Thread ksv
Hello ,
Interests everything, that is connected to managements of transactions at use 
DBCP...
Who Can will share experience or links? The database is not essential.
The principle of work with transactions through DBCP is necessary...

  

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-01-25 08:24 ---
Hi Gilles,

Sorry it took so long to get around to having a look at this bugzilla entry.

A lot of work has clearly gone into the attached code. However I don't really
understand what the purpose of it is. Could you please subscribe to the
commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org email list, and send a summary of what this code
achieves, so that we can all discuss this patch? Note that when posting to
commons-dev, the email subject should start with [digester]. If you can't
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I am concerned about the significant complexity of the code (as will other
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Thanks for your offer of this code, and hope to see your email soon.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21903] - [digester] Include filename or uri if Digester.parse(File file or String uri throws a SAXException

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I don't understand this request. Under what circumstances would the user code
that called digester.parse and caught the exception not know the filename/uri of
the xml input it was parsing?

In other words, why is this not acceptable?

String filename=foo.xml;
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If you check the BeanUtils API
(http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/beanutils/commons-beanutils-1.6.1/docs/api/):

the required characteristics of JavaBeans that are important for most
development scenarios are listed here:

* The class must be public, and provide a public constructor that accepts no
arguments. This allows tools and applications to dynamically create new
instances of your bean, without necessarily knowing what Java class name will be
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Class S was not public. If you make S public, your code works.

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cvs commit: jakarta-commons-sandbox/feedparser/src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/network - New directory

2005-01-24 Thread burton
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