Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Andreas Willinger]

So, is this actually active yet?

 

Von: csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Ido
Magal
Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 23:06
An: 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
Betreff: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

 

We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.

 

Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in
the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.

 

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Michael Valentine]

I don't believe so since I had servers running earlier this week without a GSLT.

I've still got one running without in now to actually know when it goes live. 

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> On 2 Dec 2015, at 22:28, Andreas Willinger <aw...@gmx.at> wrote:
> 
> So, is this actually active yet?
>  
> Von: csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Ido Magal
> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 23:06
> An: 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
> Betreff: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
>  
> We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.
>  
> Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in 
> the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>  
>  
> Cheers.
>  
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[mailing]

Apparently there is indeed an issue with the API. Several of my servers were 
empty or nearly empty during the past 2 days.

I checked each IP with 

http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=IPHERE:PORTHERE

 

and those empty/unpopulated were giving a response such as the following one:

{

"response": {

   "success": true,

   "servers": [

   ]

   

}

}

Which generally means the server is down, but the server was up!

There is a solution for this -> restart the server.

I am currently testing out also using 

sv_hibernate_when_empty 0

 

Valve should look into this and fix it as soon as possible.

 

BR,

Niko

 

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[mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Urbonas
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 17:10
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

 

if not week.

 

2015-11-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Lukas Urbonas <prefix...@gmail.com 
<mailto:prefix...@gmail.com> >:

I changed my server ip and 24 hours passed, why people don't get new ip? I used 
tokens for few days!

 

2015-11-24 12:15 GMT+02:00 Kristóf Deli <delikris...@gmail.com 
<mailto:delikris...@gmail.com> >:

I think no server will be blacklisted just non shown in the Game Master Server

On Nov 23, 2015 11:23 PM, "Anders Ekman" <andersekma...@gmail.com 
<mailto:andersekma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be transitioning 
blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?

 

2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal <i...@valvesoftware.com 
<mailto:i...@valvesoftware.com> >:

We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.

 

Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in the 
GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.

 

 

Cheers.

 

 

 


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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Mika Luhta]

It does work with the port, for example
http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=43.249.38.183:27025


2015-11-25 0:52 GMT+02:00 Don Park <dongkw...@gmail.com>:

> In the API link I believe you don't put the port there.
>
> For example, ours is:
>
>
> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=43.249.38.183
>
> You see four servers that are currently up.  I think the port number (more
> specifically, the colon) breaks the input.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:34 AM, <mail...@go-free.info> wrote:
>
>> Apparently there is indeed an issue with the API. Several of my servers
>> were empty or nearly empty during the past 2 days.
>>
>> I checked each IP with
>>
>>
>> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=IPHERE:PORTHERE
>>
>>
>>
>> and those empty/unpopulated were giving a response such as the following
>> one:
>>
>> {
>>
>> "response": {
>>
>>"success": true,
>>
>>"servers": [
>>
>>]
>>
>>
>>
>> }
>>
>> }
>>
>> Which generally means the server is down, but the server was up!
>>
>> There is a solution for this -> restart the server.
>>
>> I am currently testing out also using
>>
>> sv_hibernate_when_empty 0
>>
>>
>>
>> Valve should look into this and fix it as soon as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Niko
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>> csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Lukas Urbonas
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2015 17:10
>> *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
>> Operation
>>
>>
>>
>> if not week.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Lukas Urbonas <prefix...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I changed my server ip and 24 hours passed, why people don't get new ip?
>> I used tokens for few days!
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-24 12:15 GMT+02:00 Kristóf Deli <delikris...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I think no server will be blacklisted just non shown in the Game Master
>> Server
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2015 11:23 PM, "Anders Ekman" <andersekma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be
>> transitioning blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal <i...@valvesoftware.com>:
>>
>> We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list
>> in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Don Park]

Huh.

Fair enough then.

I haven't had that issue at all.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Mika Luhta <mika.lu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It does work with the port, for example
>
> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=43.249.38.183:27025
>
>
>
> 2015-11-25 0:52 GMT+02:00 Don Park <dongkw...@gmail.com>:
>
>> In the API link I believe you don't put the port there.
>>
>> For example, ours is:
>>
>>
>> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=43.249.38.183
>>
>> You see four servers that are currently up.  I think the port number
>> (more specifically, the colon) breaks the input.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:34 AM, <mail...@go-free.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently there is indeed an issue with the API. Several of my servers
>>> were empty or nearly empty during the past 2 days.
>>>
>>> I checked each IP with
>>>
>>>
>>> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=IPHERE:PORTHERE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and those empty/unpopulated were giving a response such as the following
>>> one:
>>>
>>> {
>>>
>>> "response": {
>>>
>>>"success": true,
>>>
>>>"servers": [
>>>
>>>]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> Which generally means the server is down, but the server was up!
>>>
>>> There is a solution for this -> restart the server.
>>>
>>> I am currently testing out also using
>>>
>>> sv_hibernate_when_empty 0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Valve should look into this and fix it as soon as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Niko
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>>> csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Lukas
>>> Urbonas
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2015 17:10
>>> *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
>>> Operation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if not week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-11-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Lukas Urbonas <prefix...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I changed my server ip and 24 hours passed, why people don't get new ip?
>>> I used tokens for few days!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-11-24 12:15 GMT+02:00 Kristóf Deli <delikris...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I think no server will be blacklisted just non shown in the Game Master
>>> Server
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2015 11:23 PM, "Anders Ekman" <andersekma...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be
>>> transitioning blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal <i...@valvesoftware.com>:
>>>
>>> We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list
>>> in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Don Park]

In the API link I believe you don't put the port there.

For example, ours is:

http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=43.249.38.183

You see four servers that are currently up.  I think the port number (more
specifically, the colon) breaks the input.


On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:34 AM, <mail...@go-free.info> wrote:

> Apparently there is indeed an issue with the API. Several of my servers
> were empty or nearly empty during the past 2 days.
>
> I checked each IP with
>
>
> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=IPHERE:PORTHERE
>
>
>
> and those empty/unpopulated were giving a response such as the following
> one:
>
> {
>
> "response": {
>
>"success": true,
>
>"servers": [
>
>]
>
>
>
> }
>
> }
>
> Which generally means the server is down, but the server was up!
>
> There is a solution for this -> restart the server.
>
> I am currently testing out also using
>
> sv_hibernate_when_empty 0
>
>
>
> Valve should look into this and fix it as soon as possible.
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Niko
>
>
>
> *From:* csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Lukas Urbonas
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2015 17:10
> *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
> Operation
>
>
>
> if not week.
>
>
>
> 2015-11-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Lukas Urbonas <prefix...@gmail.com>:
>
> I changed my server ip and 24 hours passed, why people don't get new ip? I
> used tokens for few days!
>
>
>
> 2015-11-24 12:15 GMT+02:00 Kristóf Deli <delikris...@gmail.com>:
>
> I think no server will be blacklisted just non shown in the Game Master
> Server
>
> On Nov 23, 2015 11:23 PM, "Anders Ekman" <andersekma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be
> transitioning blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?
>
>
>
> 2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal <i...@valvesoftware.com>:
>
> We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in
> the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Lukas Urbonas]

I changed my server ip and 24 hours passed, why people don't get new ip? I
used tokens for few days!

2015-11-24 12:15 GMT+02:00 Kristóf Deli :

> I think no server will be blacklisted just non shown in the Game Master
> Server
> On Nov 23, 2015 11:23 PM, "Anders Ekman"  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be
>> transitioning blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?
>>
>> 2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal :
>>
>>> We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list
>>> in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Lukas Urbonas]

if not week.

2015-11-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Lukas Urbonas :

> I changed my server ip and 24 hours passed, why people don't get new ip? I
> used tokens for few days!
>
> 2015-11-24 12:15 GMT+02:00 Kristóf Deli :
>
>> I think no server will be blacklisted just non shown in the Game Master
>> Server
>> On Nov 23, 2015 11:23 PM, "Anders Ekman"  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be
>>> transitioning blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?
>>>
>>> 2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal :
>>>
 We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.



 Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list
 in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.





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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Kristóf Deli]

I think no server will be blacklisted just non shown in the Game Master
Server
On Nov 23, 2015 11:23 PM, "Anders Ekman"  wrote:

> Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be
> transitioning blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?
>
> 2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal :
>
>> We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list
>> in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Anders Ekman]

Thanks for the info Ido. Does this also mean that you will be transitioning
blacklists to GSLTs instead of IPs starting tomorrow?

2015-11-23 23:05 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal :

> We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in
> the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Ido Magal]

We intend to transition to stage 4 tomorrow.

Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in the 
GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.


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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[raiden]

Vitaliy Genkin wrote
> Hi all,
> 
> Stage 3 is now in effect and anonymous servers no longer list in server
> browser.
> In the nearest update we will improve server status command to output
> server SteamID for operators.
> 
> If your server doesn't list in server browser currently, you can use the
> following WebAPI request to check:
> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=203.189.71.xxx
> An example output for anonymously logged in servers would contain
> "requires_gslt" reject reason:
> {
> "addr":
> "203.189.71.xxx:27016",
>
> "gmsindex": 65534,
> "reject":
> "requires_gslt",
> "appid":
> 730,
> "gamedir":
> "csgo",
> "region":
> 4,
> "secure":
> true,
> "lan":
> false,
>
> "gameport": 27016,
>
> "specport": 0
> }
> 
> Sincerely,
> -Vitaliy
> 
> 
> From: 

> csgo_servers-bounces@.valvesoftware

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> csgo_servers-bounces@.valvesoftware

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> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:53 AM
> To: '

> csgo_servers@.valvesoftware

> '
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
> Operation
> 
> As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will no
> longer list in the GMS.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
> 
> 
> 
> CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
> (GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
> migration.
> 
> 
> §  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live:
> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId
> 440).
> 
> §  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to
> log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server
> without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game
> server login token is specified. Please report back any issues with
> logging in using the game server login token or otherwise.
> 
> §  Stage 3: [NOW ACTIVE] Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login
> instead of a GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will
> still be playable.
> 
> §  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list
> in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please ask questions in this thread.
> 
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Hi,

Hi,

I have already added all my servers with the token while only 1 is not
working properly.

You may connect to this server from a lobby. While using the api web
checker, it shows only  

{
"response": {
"success": true,
"servers": [

]

}
}

While those working ones shows

{
"response": {
"success": true,
"servers": [
{
"addr": "XXX.XXX.XX.XX:2015",
"gmsindex": 65534,
"appid": 730,
"gamedir": "csgo",
"region": 4,
"secure": true,
"lan": false,
"gameport": 27015,
"specport": 0
}
]

}
}

Please advise if this is a bug. No matter what I do restarting the server
etc it won't work. It still gives that message.



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[ham5]

It used to fetch the new version when it did it checks -
sv_ugc_manager_max_new_file_check_interval_secs  something got broken
with this too at some point, you see it doing its checks, but like you said
it will only get the updated map when it is actually played.


niko

I don't know what to say if you think a couple clicks to put a map into a
workshop collection is more efforts then editing the gamemodes_server.txt
file every time you add a map.

maps show like that to lets users know your using the real workshop version!
it's up to date and they are not going to get kicked because there map
version is different. :)

you can use host_info_show 2 and it will just show id/name but then you
don't get the workshop icon in the community browser (another bug imo)

5) never trust the cloud 

very funny this term 'cloud'



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[Lukas Urbonas]

I don't use workshop I would really hate it they would remove
sv_fastdownload

2015-11-22 18:28 GMT+02:00 Niko :

> Hey,
> I don't use gamemodes_server either. New maps end up in maplist.txt which
> is hard linked to mapcycle.txt.
> Sourcemod then handles the map changes and nominations.
>
> I also don't appreciate the fact that maps never change the name, unless
> you can stop guys like me from grabbing them and using them on local, then
> not renaming the maps will hurt both parties.
>
> A clean solution would be to md5 check the map and if the version is
> different then the local one is deleted and the new one is downloaded.
> But as we say in italian, i'm probably talking to the wind (nobody will
> care)
>
> I guess I will just happily continue using my method as it works fine
> until the day that workshop will be more interesting (not going to happen
> soon i guess).
>
> Greetings
> Niko
>
> PS: by 'cloud' i funnily referred to the fact that files are hosted on
> someone's else server where i have no control.
>
>
> On 11/22/2015 15:44, ham5 wrote:
>
>> It used to fetch the new version when it did it checks -
>> sv_ugc_manager_max_new_file_check_interval_secs  something got broken
>> with this too at some point, you see it doing its checks, but like you
>> said
>> it will only get the updated map when it is actually played.
>>
>>
>> niko
>>
>> I don't know what to say if you think a couple clicks to put a map into a
>> workshop collection is more efforts then editing the gamemodes_server.txt
>> file every time you add a map.
>>
>> maps show like that to lets users know your using the real workshop
>> version!
>> it's up to date and they are not going to get kicked because there map
>> version is different. :)
>>
>> you can use host_info_show 2 and it will just show id/name but then you
>> don't get the workshop icon in the community browser (another bug imo)
>>
>> 5) never trust the cloud
>>
>> very funny this term 'cloud'
>>
>>
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[Niko]

Hey,
I don't use gamemodes_server either. New maps end up in maplist.txt 
which is hard linked to mapcycle.txt.

Sourcemod then handles the map changes and nominations.

I also don't appreciate the fact that maps never change the name, unless 
you can stop guys like me from grabbing them and using them on local, 
then not renaming the maps will hurt both parties.


A clean solution would be to md5 check the map and if the version is 
different then the local one is deleted and the new one is downloaded.
But as we say in italian, i'm probably talking to the wind (nobody will 
care)


I guess I will just happily continue using my method as it works fine 
until the day that workshop will be more interesting (not going to 
happen soon i guess).


Greetings
Niko

PS: by 'cloud' i funnily referred to the fact that files are hosted on 
someone's else server where i have no control.


On 11/22/2015 15:44, ham5 wrote:

It used to fetch the new version when it did it checks -
sv_ugc_manager_max_new_file_check_interval_secs  something got broken
with this too at some point, you see it doing its checks, but like you said
it will only get the updated map when it is actually played.


niko

I don't know what to say if you think a couple clicks to put a map into a
workshop collection is more efforts then editing the gamemodes_server.txt
file every time you add a map.

maps show like that to lets users know your using the real workshop version!
it's up to date and they are not going to get kicked because there map
version is different. :)

you can use host_info_show 2 and it will just show id/name but then you
don't get the workshop icon in the community browser (another bug imo)

5) never trust the cloud

very funny this term 'cloud'



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[Absurd Minds]

That's OK. You don't have to like it. I personally find it exceptionally
easier to use, and agree with the other poster that it would be nice if
these systems were more complementary.
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[ics]

Workshop has also a significant flaw vs the current fastdl system, which 
is maps not preloading on background. If new map(s) is added to the 
cycle, you have to cycle the server through the map(s) before it can be 
played. Otherwise it will download at the end of the current one and 
players will leave, because they have short temper.


The documentation is kind of lacking and flawed in spme parts. For 
example I as a workshop map contributor, used different name for each 
time i updated the map on workshop. This due to someone taking the map 
off from workshop and putting it to their fastdl so they didn't have to 
use the workshop. But the server operators said to me that "can you not 
change the name because they have the maplists with certain name". They 
didn't have any idea that you could simply put the workshop map id into 
the mapcycle in order to get it work the same way.


But Niko you are wrong about compression. Workshop maps are compressed, 
they eat nearly the same size of diskspace as bzip2 packed maps. There 
is only a slight difference.


There are also times when workshop has been down and was unavailable to 
download maps but these luckily have decreased.


-ics

Niko kirjoitti:

I don't support workshop maps for these reasons:
1) The documentation is messy, gameserver operators just don't get it
2) it takes a lot of extra time and efforts to get it right
2) Maps show as /workshop/blablabla/mapname instead of just mapname
3) fastDL is geolocated to where I want it to be and doesn't go down 
as often as steamcommunity and related services do
4) compression of the maps to their best size is guaranteed when self 
hosting

5) never trust the cloud

BR,
Niko

On 11/21/2015 04:48, ham5 wrote:

So now when can we ditch these webapi_authkey.txt files and simply the
things? I think you would want server operators preferring the 
workshop over
mapgroups. Why make operators go another step and get a 2nd key? 
Please make
it easy for operators to use the workshop or they wont. I can't 
believe some
big hosts still don't support workshop and instead try to maintain 
their own

fastdl!



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Niko]

I don't support workshop maps for these reasons:
1) The documentation is messy, gameserver operators just don't get it
2) it takes a lot of extra time and efforts to get it right
2) Maps show as /workshop/blablabla/mapname instead of just mapname
3) fastDL is geolocated to where I want it to be and doesn't go down as 
often as steamcommunity and related services do
4) compression of the maps to their best size is guaranteed when self 
hosting

5) never trust the cloud

BR,
Niko

On 11/21/2015 04:48, ham5 wrote:

So now when can we ditch these webapi_authkey.txt files and simply the
things? I think you would want server operators preferring the workshop over
mapgroups. Why make operators go another step and get a 2nd key? Please make
it easy for operators to use the workshop or they wont. I can't believe some
big hosts still don't support workshop and instead try to maintain their own
fastdl!



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[ham5]

So now when can we ditch these webapi_authkey.txt files and simply the
things? I think you would want server operators preferring the workshop over
mapgroups. Why make operators go another step and get a 2nd key? Please make
it easy for operators to use the workshop or they wont. I can't believe some
big hosts still don't support workshop and instead try to maintain their own
fastdl!



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[Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Vitaliy Genkin]

Hi all,

Stage 3 is now in effect and anonymous servers no longer list in server browser.
In the nearest update we will improve server status command to output server 
SteamID for operators.

If your server doesn't list in server browser currently, you can use the 
following WebAPI request to check:
http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=203.189.71.xxx
An example output for anonymously logged in servers would contain 
"requires_gslt" reject reason:
{
"addr": 
"203.189.71.xxx:27016",
"gmsindex": 
65534,
"reject": 
"requires_gslt",
"appid": 730,
"gamedir": 
"csgo",
"region": 4,
"secure": true,
"lan": false,
"gameport": 
27016,
"specport": 0
}

Sincerely,
-Vitaliy


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To: 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will no 
longer list in the GMS.

Cheers.




Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens 
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.


§  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live: 
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface and 
report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server operators can 
now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).

§  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log in 
with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT. 
Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is 
specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game server 
login token or otherwise.

§  Stage 3: [NOW ACTIVE] Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login instead of 
a GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still be playable.

§  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in 
the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.






Please ask questions in this thread.

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[Παναγιώτης Φλωρούς]

stage 3 is real :D we are waiting and for stage 4 thanks ido

2015-11-19 19:41 GMT+02:00 Vitaliy Genkin <vita...@valvesoftware.com>:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Stage 3 is now in effect and anonymous servers no longer list in server
> browser.
>
> In the nearest update we will improve server status command to output
> server SteamID for operators.
>
>
>
> If your server doesn’t list in server browser currently, you can use the
> following WebAPI request to check:
>
>
> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=203.189.71.xxx
>
> An example output for anonymously logged in servers would contain
> “requires_gslt” reject reason:
>
> {
>
> "addr":
> "203.189.71.xxx:27016",
>
>
> "gmsindex": 65534,
>
> "reject":
> "requires_gslt",
>
> "appid":
> 730,
>
> "gamedir":
> "csgo",
>
> "region":
> 4,
>
> "secure":
> true,
>
> "lan":
> false,
>
>
> "gameport": 27016,
>
>
> "specport": 0
>
>     }
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> -Vitaliy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Ido Magal
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 10:53 AM
> *To:* 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
> Operation
>
>
>
> As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will
> no longer list in the GMS.
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
> --
>
> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
> (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
> migration.
>
>
>
> §  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live:
> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
>
>
>
> §  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to
> log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server
> without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server
> login token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in
> using the game server login token or otherwise.
>
>
>
> §  Stage 3: *[NOW ACTIVE]* Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login
> instead of a GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still
> be playable.
>
>
>
> §  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer
> list in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Please ask questions in this thread.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
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[Roland Mondek]

Good question, is it live ? Because probably all servers are still listed

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Thiago Abreu 
wrote:

> It is live?
>
> 2015-11-17 21:31 GMT-02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de <
> mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de>:
>
>> Will there be an update or will it start without an update or is it
>> already started? :)
>>
>> Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:
>>
>> As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will
>> no longer list in the GMS.
>>
>>
>>
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[mailing]

It’s likely that they have not yet made it live.

 

If you query the API you’ll see a new field (gmsindex) that is always set at 
65534 (max UINT16 val-1) and I guess it will be something else when this is 
live.

http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=188.165.233.48:25115
 
<http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=188.165.233.48:25115=json>
 =json

{

"response": {

   "success": true,

   "servers": [

   {

   "addr": "188.165.233.48:25115",

   "gmsindex": 65534,

   "appid": 730,

   "gamedir": "csgo",

   "region": 3,

   "secure": true,

   "lan": false,

   "gameport": 25115,

   "specport": 0

}]}}

 

BR,

Niko

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Good question, is it live ? Because probably all servers are still listed

 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Thiago Abreu <thiagoabre...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thiagoabre...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It is live?

 

2015-11-17 21:31 GMT-02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de 
<http://gameserver-syndicate.de>  <mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de 
<mailto:mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de> >:

Will there be an update or will it start without an update or is it already 
started? :)

Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:

As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will no 
longer list in the GMS. 

 

Cheers.

 

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Thiago Abreu]

It is live?

2015-11-17 21:31 GMT-02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de <
mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de>:

> Will there be an update or will it start without an update or is it
> already started? :)
>
> Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:
>
> As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will
> no longer list in the GMS.
>
>
>
> Cheers.
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Παναγιώτης Φλωρούς]

Shut up idiots u spam.like a shit u are annoying
Στις 18 Νοε. 2015 4:36 μ.μ., ο χρήστης "MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de" <
mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de> έγραψε:

> Thx Niko!
>
>
> Am 18.11.2015 um 13:28 schrieb mail...@go-free.info:
>
> It’s likely that they have not yet made it live.
>
>
>
> If you query the API you’ll see a new field (gmsindex) that is always set
> at 65534 (max UINT16 val-1) and I guess it will be something else when this
> is live.
>
>
> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=188.165.233.48:25115=json
>
> {
>
> "response": {
>
>"success": true,
>
>"servers": [
>
>{
>
>"addr": "188.165.233.48:25115",
>
>*"gmsindex": 65534,*
>
>"appid": 730,
>
>"gamedir": "csgo",
>
>"region": 3,
>
>"secure": true,
>
>"lan": false,
>
>"gameport": 25115,
>
>"specport": 0
>
> }]}}
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Niko
>
> *From:* csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [
> mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> <csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] *On Behalf Of *Roland
> Mondek
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:51
> *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
> Operation
>
>
>
> Good question, is it live ? Because probably all servers are still listed
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Thiago Abreu <thiagoabre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It is live?
>
>
>
> 2015-11-17 21:31 GMT-02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de <
> mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de>:
>
> Will there be an update or will it start without an update or is it
> already started? :)
>
> Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:
>
> As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will
> no longer list in the GMS.
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de]

Thx Niko!


Am 18.11.2015 um 13:28 schrieb mail...@go-free.info:


It’s likely that they have not yet made it live.

If you query the API you’ll see a new field (gmsindex) that is always 
set at 65534 (max UINT16 val-1) and I guess it will be something else 
when this is live.


http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=188.165.233.48:25115=json

{

"response": {

   "success": true,

   "servers": [

   {

"addr": "188.165.233.48:25115",

*"gmsindex": 65534,*

"appid": 730,

"gamedir": "csgo",

"region": 3,

"secure": true,

   "lan": false,

"gameport": 25115,

"specport": 0

}]}}

BR,

Niko

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*Roland Mondek

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:51
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*Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server 
Operation


Good question, is it live ? Because probably all servers are still listed

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Thiago Abreu 
<thiagoabre...@gmail.com <mailto:thiagoabre...@gmail.com>> wrote:


It is live?

2015-11-17 21:31 GMT-02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de
<http://gameserver-syndicate.de> <mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de
<mailto:mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de>>:

Will there be an update or will it start without an update or
is it already started? :)

Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:

As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT
to log in will no longer list in the GMS.

Cheers.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Patrick Layh]

 
thx priviet my frend

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. November 2015 um 15:42 Uhr
Von: "Παναγιώτης Φλωρούς" <panoslakko...@gmail.com>
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Betreff: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation


Shut up idiots u spam.like a shit u are annoying

Στις 18 Νοε. 2015 4:36 μ.μ., ο χρήστης "MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de" <mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de> έγραψε:



Thx Niko!


Am 18.11.2015 um 13:28 schrieb mail...@go-free.info:



It’s likely that they have not yet made it live.

 

If you query the API you’ll see a new field (gmsindex) that is always set at 65534 (max UINT16 val-1) and I guess it will be something else when this is live.

http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=188.165.233.48:25115=json

{

    "response": {

   "success": true,

   "servers": [

   {

   "addr": "188.165.233.48:25115",

   "gmsindex": 65534,

   "appid": 730,

       "gamedir": "csgo",

   "region": 3,

   "secure": true,

   "lan": false,

   "gameport": 25115,

   "specport": 0

}]}}

 

BR,

Niko

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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:51
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

 


Good question, is it live ? Because probably all servers are still listed



 


On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Thiago Abreu <thiagoabre...@gmail.com> wrote:



It is live?



 




2015-11-17 21:31 GMT-02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de <mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de>:








Will there be an update or will it start without an update or is it already started? :)

Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:




As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will no longer list in the GMS. 

 

Cheers.




 



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de]

Will there be an update or will it start without an update or is it 
already started? :)


Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:


As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in 
will no longer list in the GMS.


Cheers.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Asher Baker]

The new-ish backend for the server browser, replacing the old "master
server".


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On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Team Niederbayern Serveradministration <
ser...@teamniederbayern.com> wrote:

> What the heck is GMS?
>
> Sorry for the dumb question though :)
>
>
> Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:
>
> As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will
> no longer list in the GMS.
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Team Niederbayern Serveradministration]

What the heck is GMS?

Sorry for the dumb question though :)


Am 16.11.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Ido Magal:


As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in
will no longer list in the GMS.

Cheers.





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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[David Parker]

Ido, could you guys please update the CS:GO "status" command to show
whether or not the server is logged in, like TF2 does?  That's a lot easier
than simply watching for lines in the console at startup, especially if
you're running in a screen session on Linux and can't scroll back through
the lines which have left the screen.

Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Anders Ekman 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So I don't know if this has been answered yet, but at what point will bans
> start being handed out by token / steam account instead of IP? At stage 3?
>
> 2015-11-14 15:19 GMT+01:00 ch4os :
>
>> I just started a local listenserver to practise some smokes and saw this
>> in console:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *  No Steam account token was specified.   *
>> *  Logging into anonymous game server account. *
>> *  Support for anonymous logins will go away soon. *
>> *  To create a game server account go to   *
>> *  http://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> This is the same warning message you get when starting up a dedicated
>> server.
>> Will this be required for listenservers aswell? Or is this message just a
>> bug?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Alex
>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Absurd Minds]

If you're using screen, ctrl+a and then [ activates scrolling mode.
On Nov 16, 2015 11:36 AM, "David Parker"  wrote:

> Ido, could you guys please update the CS:GO "status" command to show
> whether or not the server is logged in, like TF2 does?  That's a lot easier
> than simply watching for lines in the console at startup, especially if
> you're running in a screen session on Linux and can't scroll back through
> the lines which have left the screen.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Anders Ekman 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So I don't know if this has been answered yet, but at what point will
>> bans start being handed out by token / steam account instead of IP? At
>> stage 3?
>>
>> 2015-11-14 15:19 GMT+01:00 ch4os :
>>
>>> I just started a local listenserver to practise some smokes and saw this
>>> in console:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *  No Steam account token was specified.   *
>>> *  Logging into anonymous game server account. *
>>> *  Support for anonymous logins will go away soon. *
>>> *  To create a game server account go to   *
>>> *  http://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers *
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> This is the same warning message you get when starting up a dedicated
>>> server.
>>> Will this be required for listenservers aswell? Or is this message just
>>> a bug?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Alex
>>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[mailing]

Exactly! This. 

 

and possibly a cvar that we can poll to verify that the server has logged in 
correctly. Or at least an assertion that stops the server after a minute or so 
if it hasn’t logged in (I guess this can be implemented by an extension or 
plugin)

 

BR,

Niko

 

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To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

 

Ido, could you guys please update the CS:GO "status" command to show whether or 
not the server is logged in, like TF2 does?  That's a lot easier than simply 
watching for lines in the console at startup, especially if you're running in a 
screen session on Linux and can't scroll back through the lines which have left 
the screen.

 

Thanks.

 

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Anders Ekman <andersekma...@gmail.com 
<mailto:andersekma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

So I don't know if this has been answered yet, but at what point will bans 
start being handed out by token / steam account instead of IP? At stage 3?

 

2015-11-14 15:19 GMT+01:00 ch4os <ch...@chaosmacher.de 
<mailto:ch...@chaosmacher.de> >:

I just started a local listenserver to practise some smokes and saw this in 
console:




*  No Steam account token was specified.   *
*  Logging into anonymous game server account. *
*  Support for anonymous logins will go away soon. *
*  To create a game server account go to   *
*  http://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers *




This is the same warning message you get when starting up a dedicated server.
Will this be required for listenservers aswell? Or is this message just a bug?

Thanks!
Alex

 

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Ido Magal]

As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will no 
longer list in the GMS.

Cheers.


From: Ido Magal
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:40 PM
To: 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation


Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens 
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.


§  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live: 
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface and 
report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server operators can 
now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).

§  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log in 
with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT. 
Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is 
specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game server 
login token or otherwise.

§  Stage 3: [NEXT WEEK] Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login instead of a 
GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still be playable.

§  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in 
the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.






Please ask questions in this thread.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[mailing]

Thanks for the notice!

Can't wait to see abusing servers wiped out.

 

BR,

Niko

 

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To: 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
<csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

 

As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will no
longer list in the GMS. 

 

Cheers.

 

 

From: Ido Magal 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:40 PM
To: 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

 

Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

  _  

CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.

 

*  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live:
<https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers>
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface
and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server
operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).

 

*  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log
in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a
GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login
token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the
game server login token or otherwise.

 

*  Stage 3: [NEXT WEEK] Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login instead
of a GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still be
playable.

 

*  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list
in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.

 

 

  _  

Please ask questions in this thread.

Cheers.

 

 

 

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Anders Ekman]

Thanks for the heads up Ido!

Will you be banning by tokens from tomorrow then, or still by IP until
stage 4?

2015-11-16 19:52 GMT+01:00 Ido Magal :

> As of tomorrow, dedicated servers that do not use a GSLT to log in will
> no longer list in the GMS.
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ido Magal
> *Sent:* Friday, November 13, 2015 2:40 PM
> *To:* 'csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com'
> *Subject:* Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
>
>
>
> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
> --
>
> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
> (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
> migration.
>
>
>
> §  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live:
> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
>
>
>
> §  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to
> log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server
> without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server
> login token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in
> using the game server login token or otherwise.
>
>
>
> §  Stage 3: *[NEXT WEEK]* Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login
> instead of a GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still
> be playable.
>
>
>
> §  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer
> list in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[ch4os]

I just started a local listenserver to practise some smokes and saw this 
in console:





*  No Steam account token was specified.   *
*  Logging into anonymous game server account. *
*  Support for anonymous logins will go away soon. *
*  To create a game server account go to   *
*  http://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers *




This is the same warning message you get when starting up a dedicated 
server.
Will this be required for listenservers aswell? Or is this message just 
a bug?


Thanks!
Alex

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Anders Ekman]

Hi,

So I don't know if this has been answered yet, but at what point will bans
start being handed out by token / steam account instead of IP? At stage 3?

2015-11-14 15:19 GMT+01:00 ch4os :

> I just started a local listenserver to practise some smokes and saw this
> in console:
>
> 
> 
> 
> *  No Steam account token was specified.   *
> *  Logging into anonymous game server account. *
> *  Support for anonymous logins will go away soon. *
> *  To create a game server account go to   *
> *  http://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers *
> 
> 
> 
>
> This is the same warning message you get when starting up a dedicated
> server.
> Will this be required for listenservers aswell? Or is this message just a
> bug?
>
> Thanks!
> Alex
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Ido Magal]

You should see spew like this:


Logging into Steam gameserver account with logon token 
''
GOTV[0] broadcast active.
Connection to Steam servers successful.
 Public IP is XXX.XX.XX.XXX.
Assigned persistent gameserver Steam ID [G:X:XXX].




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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

Hello Ido,
Question:
How can we check if the token works or not?
Am 13. November 2015 23:38:39 schrieb Ido Magal <i...@valvesoftware.com>:
Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens 
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.

•  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live: 
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface and 
report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server operators can 
now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).

•  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log in 
with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT. 
Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is 
specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game server 
login token or otherwise.

•  Stage 3: [NEXT WEEK] Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login instead of a 
GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still be playable.

•  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in 
the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.



Please ask questions in this thread.
Cheers.



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[Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Ido Magal]

Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens 
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.


§  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live: 
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface and 
report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server operators can 
now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).

§  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log in 
with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT. 
Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is 
specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game server 
login token or otherwise.

§  Stage 3: [NEXT WEEK] Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login instead of a 
GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still be playable.

§  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list in 
the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.






Please ask questions in this thread.

Cheers.



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Mishu]

Hello Ido,

Question:
How can we check if the token works or not?


Am 13. November 2015 23:38:39 schrieb Ido Magal :


Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens 
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.



§  Stage 1: [DONE] The GSLT creation utility is live: 
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface 
and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server 
operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).


§  Stage 2: [DONE] You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log 
in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a 
GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login 
token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the 
game server login token or otherwise.


§  Stage 3: [NEXT WEEK] Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login instead 
of a GSLT will no longer list in the GMS. Otherwise they will still be 
playable.


§  Stage 4: Dedicated Servers that use anonymous login will no longer list 
in the GMS nor be connectable by CS:GO clients.







Please ask questions in this thread.

Cheers.






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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Egner]

Is it possible VALVE to BAN the rcon sv_tags ? so we can use a key for
multiple server that we are renting out for short time renting ?



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Geo B.]

I triied to :
1°) Assign a token to an existing server
2°) restart this server (just in case)
3°) Stop this Server
4°) Transfer the token to another server
5°) My server browser isn't updated.

Did it works for someone ?

2015-11-11 9:43 GMT+01:00 Daniel Triendl :

> On 11.11.2015 07:50, Neuro Toxin wrote:
>
>> How did you enter the token?
>>
>> Config or command line?
>>
>
> I've set in on the command line as last parameter: "+sv_setsteamaccount
> My_GSLT", and I get the following in my console log file:
>
> [...]
> Logging into Steam gameserver account with logon token 'My_GSLT'
> [...]
> Connection to Steam servers successful.
>Public IP is x.x.x.x.
> Assigned persistent gameserver Steam ID [X:Y:SOMEID].
> [...]
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Imre Mamedov]

p{padding:0;margin:0;} I have asked those questions multiple times now, never 
got an answer..1) Does anything happen to actually account when your keys get 
banned ?2) Is the ban permanent ?3) If you get banned in game, what happens to 
keys ?
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Don Park]

Sorry to piss you off.  But even with reading it, it seems many people are
confusing authkey with the gsln token and steamcmd login.  Therefore i
thought asking it again was required to get a definitive yes or no.  Since
again... people (like the last guy who was asking if people were high)
confused the server login token with steamcmd login.


On Nov 11, 2015 10:42 PM, <mail...@go-free.info> wrote:
>
> Can you guys please stop asking the same questions over and over again?
>
> Read the mailing list, all these questions have been answered already
today.
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Niko
>
>
>
> From: csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Park
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 14:39
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
Operation
>
>
>
> Howdy,
>
>
>
> So to clear the air real quick.  The authkey launch parameter is no
longer needed in order to access the workshop contents correct?  Simply
setting the "sv_setsteamaccount" in the launch parameter will now allow
workshop access?
>
>
>
> All my servers are working perfectly (and updating perfectly) besides
that.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Alfons Hugenbauer <
421bomber...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how this works with LAN-Servers without internet
connection?
>>
>> Does this work? Or do I need an internet connection for the servers?
>>
>> Mfg
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-11 13:21 GMT+01:00 Louis Crossing <m...@louis.id.au>:
>>>
>>> You need to put it in autoexec.cfg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 November 2015 at 20:15, Absurd Minds <goabs...@absurdminds.net>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I
currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.
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[Don Park]

Thanks man.  Much appreciated.
On Nov 11, 2015 10:44 PM, "Absurd Minds"  wrote:

> No apparently the authkey is still needed. I'm glad I'm not the only one
> who misunderstood that!
> On Nov 11, 2015 8:41 AM, "Don Park"  wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> So to clear the air real quick.  The authkey launch parameter is no
>> longer needed in order to access the workshop contents correct?  Simply
>> setting the "sv_setsteamaccount" in the launch parameter will now allow
>> workshop access?
>>
>> All my servers are working perfectly (and updating perfectly) besides
>> that.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Alfons Hugenbauer <
>> 421bomber...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me how this works with LAN-Servers without internet
>>> connection?
>>>
>>> Does this work? Or do I need an internet connection for the servers?
>>>
>>> Mfg
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> 2015-11-11 13:21 GMT+01:00 Louis Crossing :
>>>
 You need to put it in autoexec.cfg


 On 11 November 2015 at 20:15, Absurd Minds 
 wrote:

> So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I
> currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Absurd Minds]

No apparently the authkey is still needed. I'm glad I'm not the only one
who misunderstood that!
On Nov 11, 2015 8:41 AM, "Don Park"  wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> So to clear the air real quick.  The authkey launch parameter is no longer
> needed in order to access the workshop contents correct?  Simply setting
> the "sv_setsteamaccount" in the launch parameter will now allow workshop
> access?
>
> All my servers are working perfectly (and updating perfectly) besides
> that.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Alfons Hugenbauer <
> 421bomber...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me how this works with LAN-Servers without internet
>> connection?
>>
>> Does this work? Or do I need an internet connection for the servers?
>>
>> Mfg
>> Chris
>>
>> 2015-11-11 13:21 GMT+01:00 Louis Crossing :
>>
>>> You need to put it in autoexec.cfg
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 November 2015 at 20:15, Absurd Minds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I
 currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Daniel Triendl]

On 11.11.2015 07:50, Neuro Toxin wrote:

How did you enter the token?

Config or command line?


I've set in on the command line as last parameter: "+sv_setsteamaccount 
My_GSLT", and I get the following in my console log file:


[...]
Logging into Steam gameserver account with logon token 'My_GSLT'
[...]
Connection to Steam servers successful.
   Public IP is x.x.x.x.
Assigned persistent gameserver Steam ID [X:Y:SOMEID].
[...]



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[Louis Crossing]

You need to put it in autoexec.cfg


On 11 November 2015 at 20:15, Absurd Minds  wrote:

> So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I
> currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.
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[Geo B.]

works fine in launch options, i'm still waiting some more infos about
tokens migration ;(

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> currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.
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[Alfons Hugenbauer]

Can anyone tell me how this works with LAN-Servers without internet
connection?

Does this work? Or do I need an internet connection for the servers?

Mfg
Chris

2015-11-11 13:21 GMT+01:00 Louis Crossing :

> You need to put it in autoexec.cfg
>
>
> On 11 November 2015 at 20:15, Absurd Minds 
> wrote:
>
>> So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I
>> currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.
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[Absurd Minds]

So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I
currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Don Park]

Howdy,

So to clear the air real quick.  The authkey launch parameter is no longer
needed in order to access the workshop contents correct?  Simply setting
the "sv_setsteamaccount" in the launch parameter will now allow workshop
access?

All my servers are working perfectly (and updating perfectly) besides that.


Thanks.


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Alfons Hugenbauer <
421bomber...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how this works with LAN-Servers without internet
> connection?
>
> Does this work? Or do I need an internet connection for the servers?
>
> Mfg
> Chris
>
> 2015-11-11 13:21 GMT+01:00 Louis Crossing :
>
>> You need to put it in autoexec.cfg
>>
>>
>> On 11 November 2015 at 20:15, Absurd Minds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I
>>> currently have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient.
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[mailing]

Can you guys please stop asking the same questions over and over again?

Read the mailing list, all these questions have been answered already today.

 

BR,

Niko

 

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Howdy,

 

So to clear the air real quick.  The authkey launch parameter is no longer 
needed in order to access the workshop contents correct?  Simply setting the 
"sv_setsteamaccount" in the launch parameter will now allow workshop access?  

 

All my servers are working perfectly (and updating perfectly) besides that.  

 

Thanks.

 

 

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Alfons Hugenbauer 
<421bomber...@googlemail.com <mailto:421bomber...@googlemail.com> > wrote:

Can anyone tell me how this works with LAN-Servers without internet connection?

Does this work? Or do I need an internet connection for the servers?

Mfg

Chris

 

2015-11-11 13:21 GMT+01:00 Louis Crossing <m...@louis.id.au 
<mailto:m...@louis.id.au> >:

You need to put it in autoexec.cfg

 

On 11 November 2015 at 20:15, Absurd Minds <goabs...@absurdminds.net 
<mailto:goabs...@absurdminds.net> > wrote:

So apparently the cvar is required to be set in the command line? I currently 
have it set in server.cfg and that's not sufficient. 


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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de]

to #1:
As far as i know, ido said, that all(!!) tokens of the account will be 
banned.


to #2:
as far as i know: Yes!

to #3:
im not sure, sry. you mean vac-ban in csgo, right?

Am 11.11.2015 um 18:47 schrieb Csgo:

Im looking forward to the answers of the below questions too!

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:09 AM, Imre Mamedov  wrote:


I have asked those questions multiple times now, never got an answer..

1) Does anything happen to actually account when your keys get banned ?
2) Is the ban permanent ?
3) If you get banned in game, what happens to keys ?
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de]

To all:
Anyone here who knows, how i can check if the server runs with the token 
i set it up with?


Is it this?
"Assigned persistent gameserver Steam ID [G:X:X]. "

Thx for non-drugs-flame-answers! ;)

Am 11.11.2015 um 01:27 schrieb Ido Magal:


Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



*CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login 
Tokens (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for 
Favorites migration.**


This transition will happen in three stages:

§Stage 1: The GSLT creation utility went 
live:https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the 
interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that 
TF2 server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 
(AppId 440).


§Stage 2 *[NOW]*: You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to 
log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server 
without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game 
server login token is specified. Please report back any issues with 
logging in using the game server login token or otherwise.


§Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report 
back any issues.




Please ask questions in this thread.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[mailing]

VAC = Valve Anti Cheats, I really don't think that valve goes as far as
banning you from playing on servers because you did something wrong when
hosting a specific gameserver.
Also I don't think that bans would be permanent seen the length of the bans
given to IPs during the previous months. However these are all speculations
and we have yet to hear from VALVE.

What we know for sure is that if you have 20 tokens and 1 gets banned, the
other 19 will also be banned.

BR,
Niko

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Let me rephrase question #1. What we r trying to find out is that if your
tokens get banned does your account get a vac ban too?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 3:45 PM, MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de
<mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de> wrote:
> 
> to #1:
> As far as i know, ido said, that all(!!) tokens of the account will be
banned.
> 
> to #2:
> as far as i know: Yes!
> 
> to #3:
> im not sure, sry. you mean vac-ban in csgo, right?
> 
>> Am 11.11.2015 um 18:47 schrieb Csgo:
>> Im looking forward to the answers of the below questions too!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:09 AM, Imre Mamedov <imremame...@hot.ee> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have asked those questions multiple times now, never got an answer..
>>> 
>>> 1) Does anything happen to actually account when your keys get banned ?
>>> 2) Is the ban permanent ?
>>> 3) If you get banned in game, what happens to keys ?
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Ido Magal]

Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens 
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.



This transition will happen in three stages:
§  Stage 1: The GSLT creation utility went live: 
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface and 
report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server operators can 
now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
§  Stage 2 [NOW]: You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log in 
with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT. 
Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is 
specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game server 
login token or otherwise.
§  Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report back any 
issues.





Please ask questions in this thread.

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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Absurd Minds]

Does this mean I need to remove my authkey from my server startup command
now?
On Nov 10, 2015 7:28 PM, "Ido Magal"  wrote:

> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
> --
>
> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
> (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
> migration.
>
>
>
> This transition will happen in three stages:
>
> §  Stage 1: The GSLT creation utility went live:
> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
>
> §  Stage 2 *[NOW]*: You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to
> log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server
> without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server
> login token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in
> using the game server login token or otherwise.
>
> §  Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report
> back any issues.
>
>
> --
>
> Please ask questions in this thread.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
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[Absurd Minds]

Ohhh ok.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Ido Magal <i...@valvesoftware.com> wrote:

> No. This does not eliminate the need for an authkey for workshop maps.
>
>
>
> The authkey you no longer need is the one necessary to generate the GSLT
> prior to the web interface.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Absurd Minds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2015 4:29 PM
> *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
> Operation
>
>
>
> Does this mean I need to remove my authkey from my server startup command
> now?
>
> On Nov 10, 2015 7:28 PM, "Ido Magal" <i...@valvesoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
> --
>
> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
> (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
> migration.
>
>
>
> This transition will happen in three stages:
>
> §  Stage 1: The GSLT creation utility went live:
> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
>
> §  Stage 2 * [NOW]*: You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to
> log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server
> without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server
> login token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in
> using the game server login token or otherwise.
>
> §  Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report
> back any issues.
>
>
> --
>
> Please ask questions in this thread.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[ham5]

> Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will we
need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
> A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating a
> GSLT. It is no longer necessary. 


ok.., so step3 then?



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Daniel Barreiro]

They're all banned. Tokens are linked to SteamID so all tokens on that
SteamID are banned.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Thiago Abreu 
wrote:

> Ido, for me it is not clear for GSPs.
>
> I can generate an token for every client.
> If one token get banned what happens with the remaining tokens?
>
> 2015-11-10 22:27 GMT-02:00 Ido Magal :
>
>> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
>> --
>>
>> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
>> (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
>> migration.
>>
>>
>>
>> This transition will happen in three stages:
>>
>> §  Stage 1: The GSLT creation utility went live:
>> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
>> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
>> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
>>
>> §  Stage 2 *[NOW]*: You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to
>> log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server
>> without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server
>> login token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in
>> using the game server login token or otherwise.
>>
>> §  Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report
>> back any issues.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Please ask questions in this thread.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Ilyas]

+sv_setsteamaccount /*Login Token*/ - in a launch parameter string
but when i type "sv_setsteamaccount" to the server console, i get this:
Warning: Game server already logged into steam.  You need to use the 
sv_setsteamaccount command earlier.




it's okay?

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[Thiago Abreu]

Ido, for me it is not clear for GSPs.

I can generate an token for every client.
If one token get banned what happens with the remaining tokens?

2015-11-10 22:27 GMT-02:00 Ido Magal :

> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
> --
>
> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens
> (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
> migration.
>
>
>
> This transition will happen in three stages:
>
> §  Stage 1: The GSLT creation utility went live:
> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
>
> §  Stage 2 *[NOW]*: You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to
> log in with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server
> without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server
> login token is specified. Please report back any issues with logging in
> using the game server login token or otherwise.
>
> §  Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report
> back any issues.
>
>
> --
>
> Please ask questions in this thread.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Ido Magal]

No. This does not eliminate the need for an authkey for workshop maps.

The authkey you no longer need is the one necessary to generate the GSLT prior 
to the web interface.


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Does this mean I need to remove my authkey from my server startup command now?
On Nov 10, 2015 7:28 PM, "Ido Magal" 
<i...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:i...@valvesoftware.com>> wrote:

Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login Tokens 
(GSLTs). This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.



This transition will happen in three stages:
•  Stage 1: The GSLT creation utility went live: 
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the interface and 
report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server operators can 
now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).
•  Stage 2 [NOW]: You can now use the sv_setsteamaccount concommand to log in 
with your GSLT. it is still possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT. 
Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is 
specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game server 
login token or otherwise.
•  Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report back any 
issues.





Please ask questions in this thread.

Cheers.




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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Nomaan Ahmad]

You can also use autoexec.cfg for setting sv_setsteamaccount earlier during
server startup.

On 11 November 2015 at 01:25, Ilyas  wrote:

> +sv_setsteamaccount /*Login Token*/ - in a launch parameter string
> but when i type "sv_setsteamaccount" to the server console, i get this:
> Warning: Game server already logged into steam.  You need to use the
> sv_setsteamaccount command earlier.
>
>
>
> it's okay?
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[ics]

I was also confused few weeks back but i'll say this to make it clear:

Anonymous login during server update/install will not be disabled.

Anonymous logging in (that servers did automatically before) with server 
will be disabled when server is started.


Everyone just needs to set up their servers to log in per Valve 
instructions. This means that you need to put sv_setsteamaccount 
"idkeyhere" into autoexec.cfg in order to get server log in. See Ido's 
messages for more info.


-ics

wazer kirjoitti:

Are you stoned? This is what I'm telling, YOU cannot update any servers
without being logged in as anonymous on windows steamcmd at least!

IF i did add "login anonymous" again to my script it would let me update.
But this action gets disabled so why the h... should i add BOTH commands and
test with them? it makes no sense at all.

Thats why I'm saying, add the new cvar to first of all valid AND allowed to
be able to login with via steamcmd.exe for windows.

What part of not being able to update or retrieve server files while not
being logged in?

This works pretty


This does not.



Go lookup valve readme for server providers I just followed their own
instruktions and have been working great so far.




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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de]

I found this in console:

   Assigned persistent gameserver Steam ID [G:X:X].
   VAC secure mode is activated.

So i think the server connected via token succesfullly
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[lay295]

I honestly don't think you understand this update. "login anonymous" for
steamcmd is not going to be deprecated, you will always be able to update
the server anonymously even after stage 3. You just can't log into the
gameservers anonymously. This update has NOTHING to do with steamcmd and how
you update your servers.

"YES I have to use login anonymous which gets deprecated soon" 

I honestly have no idea where you heard logining in anonymously on steamcmd
would get removed, mine quoting or linking me something? If i'm wrong i'll
admit it, but first i've heard of that. You also really need to get off your
high horse and re-read what this update actually does.



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[Neuro Toxin]

Someone must be stoned, and it's not us!

Hopefully the quoted post makes sense to the person having hissy fits
because they failed to understand the changes which are occuring.



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Neuro Toxin]

:D

How did you enter the token?

Config or command line?



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Neuro Toxin]

Where you get the console output after the server launchs.

The assigned anonymous id should be something like, assigned persistant...

Others already posted today with an error if it wasnt assigned correctly if
you have a look at the previous posts today.



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[wazer]

Is this proof enough for you?

You need it period



 



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[lay295]

Not enough proof for me, since we're not even in stage 3 yet so you shouldn't
have to log in. And I don't see you typing "login anonymous" in that cmd
prompt so you're not even logged into anonymously from what I can tell.

Updated all my servers today just fine.



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[Neuro Toxin]

Thats not proof at all.

The error states your not online or not logged into steam.

I dont see a login anonymous request before app_update.

If what your saying was really the case. Valve wouldnt have confirmed its
not required!

And my servers wouldnt have updated today.



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[wazer]

Are you stoned? This is what I'm telling, YOU cannot update any servers
without being logged in as anonymous on windows steamcmd at least!

IF i did add "login anonymous" again to my script it would let me update.
But this action gets disabled so why the h... should i add BOTH commands and
test with them? it makes no sense at all.

Thats why I'm saying, add the new cvar to first of all valid AND allowed to
be able to login with via steamcmd.exe for windows.

What part of not being able to update or retrieve server files while not
being logged in?

This works pretty
 

This does not.
 


Go lookup valve readme for server providers I just followed their own
instruktions and have been working great so far.




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[wazer]

You 2 must be sitting in the same room smoking.

Go read what I wrote to the other guy ;)

"You cannot update server files without being logged into steamcmd as anon
or any other account"

So why should we test the new cvar when login function gets disabled
anyways?? Why even bother tell me..

We wont be able to get updates with steamcmd as long 

1)
login function gets disabled

2)
Not allowing to use tokens ID to login with and retrieve updates!

So until that part is working why should i test the new cvar command?? for
what purpose it does nothing...

+

Read it all again and you might understand.



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de]

Is there a way to check if the sv_setsteamaccount was set successful?

Am 11.11.2015 um 02:25 schrieb Ilyas:

+sv_setsteamaccount /*Login Token*/ - in a launch parameter string
but when i type "sv_setsteamaccount" to the server console, i get this:
Warning: Game server already logged into steam.  You need to use the 
sv_setsteamaccount command earlier.




it's okay?

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[Dennis B]

Ehh?? How the "h..." do you expect us to download updates and download the
actually game files from scratch if we cannot use "login anonymous"..

To be able to get updates and get them from scratch you actually NEED to
have login anonymous first, i just tested with token generated and it
wanted password, so fair enough i added the password from the account that
generated it, and it did not work.

Ido I dont think you guys thought about this issue..

We need 1 string login cmd to be able to get updates no matter what.

How can you expect people to test +sv_setsteamaccount TOKEN ID in
launch options if we cannot skip login anonymous. If we delete or
clear login string we wont get any updates in startup.

Not very clever..



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> need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
> > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating a
> > GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
>
>
> ok.., so step3 then?
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[wazer]

Ehh?? How the "h..." do you expect us to download updates and download the
actually game files from scratch if we cannot use "login anonymous"..

To be able to get updates and get them from scratch you actually NEED to
have login anonymous first, i just tested with token generated and it wanted
password, so fair enough i added the password from the account that
generated it, and it did not work.

Ido I dont think you guys thought about this issue..

We need 1 string login cmd to be able to get updates no matter what.

How can you expect people to test +sv_setsteamaccount TOKEN ID in launch
options if we cannot skip login anonymous. If we delete or clear login
string we wont get any updates in startup.

Not very clever..



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[Dennis B]

For us at windows hosting, you need to implement  sv_setsteamaccount "id"
as a valid command for and steamcmd.exe and let it accept it like "login
anonymous" else we have no chance of getting updates or downloading
game/server files from scratch.

2015-11-11 4:13 GMT+01:00 wazer :

> Ehh?? How the "h..." do you expect us to download updates and download the
> actually game files from scratch if we cannot use "login anonymous"..
>
> To be able to get updates and get them from scratch you actually NEED to
> have login anonymous first, i just tested with token generated and it
> wanted
> password, so fair enough i added the password from the account that
> generated it, and it did not work.
>
> Ido I dont think you guys thought about this issue..
>
> We need 1 string login cmd to be able to get updates no matter what.
>
> How can you expect people to test +sv_setsteamaccount TOKEN ID in launch
> options if we cannot skip login anonymous. If we delete or clear login
> string we wont get any updates in startup.
>
> Not very clever..
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Neuro Toxin]

Dont jump the gun to early.

As previously advised in this thread. 

SteamCmd doesn't require a key to install/update servers.

I just updated all my servers with no issue at all!



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[Geo B.]

Any idea of stage 2 release date ? Seems like im not alone waiting this
update to migrate servers
Le 24 oct. 2015 13:50, "ics"  a écrit :

> I was aware of this, just saying in advance if someone has the cvar
> somewhere else than autoexec.cfg.
>
> -ics
>
> Michael Loveless kirjoitti:
>
>> CSGO Servers have not been updated with the cvar as far as I know since
>> we have not reached Stage 2 of the rollout process. All you can do now is
>> create tokens for each of your servers in preparation for the change.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:03 AM, ics  i...@ics-base.net>> wrote:
>>
>> You might want to put that command into autoexec.cfg, because if
>> you leave it to server.cfg or too late on the command line, your
>> server won't log in properly or at all. I've had TF2 servers on
>> the autoexec.cfg and they function fine with it.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Usman Khan kirjoitti:
>>
>> in console "sv_setsteamaccount" returns Unknown Command?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Zaretti Steve
>> 
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> Can't we update stored memo or retreive information about
>> server?
>> last ip/port seen.
>>
>> I'm kind of lost:
>> https://i.gyazo.com/64095453f5cfd63728f20e599cfa8a78.png
>>
>> 2015-10-14 22:49 GMT+02:00 Mike > 
>> >>:
>>
>> Thousands of servers will abuse this, finding a way to
>> exploit
>> the EXP system, and at that point the damage is done;
>> EXP no
>> longer has any value.  Not to mention EXP farm servers
>> remove
>> the point of having a level 3 limit for competitive.
>>
>> What you're pondering will do more harm than good.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Kevin C
>> >  > >> wrote:
>>
>> It would be really nice if we could get some of the
>> benefits that valve server has as a result of this
>> change.
>> Most notably XP gain. There is already a weekly
>> cap on XP,
>> why shouldn't I be able to earn it playing my servers?
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2015 1:03 AM, ics wrote:
>>
>> Some questions:
>>
>> 1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server
>> updates - why
>> wouldn't CSGO?
>> 2. Does this help to get anymore benefits than
>> having
>> server logged in, things like actually having
>> people
>> to get operation drops from servers and gather xp
>> instead of going to Valve servers?
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Ido Magal kirjoitti:
>>
>>
>> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
>> Operation
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require
>> Steam
>> Game Server Login Tokens (GSLTs). *This is the
>> existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
>> migration.**
>>
>> This transition will happen in three stages:
>>
>> §Stage 1 *[NOW]* : The GSLT creation
>> utility goes
>>live:
>> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers.
>> Please test the interface and report back any
>> issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
>> server
>> operators can now use this form to create
>> GSLTs
>> for TF2 (AppId 440).
>>
>> §Stage 2: An update to CS:GO's dedicated
>> server
>> will include the sv_setsteamaccount convar
>> that
>> allows you to log in with your GSLT. In
>> this stage
>> it will still be possible to run a dedicated
>> server without a GSLT. Anonymous login
>> will happen
>> automatically if no game server login token is
>> specified. Please report back any issues with
>> logging in using the game server login
>> 

Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Michael Loveless]

CSGO Servers have not been updated with the cvar as far as I know since we
have not reached Stage 2 of the rollout process. All you can do now is
create tokens for each of your servers in preparation for the change.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:03 AM, ics  wrote:

> You might want to put that command into autoexec.cfg, because if you leave
> it to server.cfg or too late on the command line, your server won't log in
> properly or at all. I've had TF2 servers on the autoexec.cfg and they
> function fine with it.
>
> -ics
>
> Usman Khan kirjoitti:
>
>> in console "sv_setsteamaccount" returns Unknown Command?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Zaretti Steve > > wrote:
>>
>> Can't we update stored memo or retreive information about server?
>> last ip/port seen.
>>
>> I'm kind of lost:
>> https://i.gyazo.com/64095453f5cfd63728f20e599cfa8a78.png
>>
>> 2015-10-14 22:49 GMT+02:00 Mike > >:
>>
>> Thousands of servers will abuse this, finding a way to exploit
>> the EXP system, and at that point the damage is done; EXP no
>> longer has any value.  Not to mention EXP farm servers remove
>> the point of having a level 3 limit for competitive.
>>
>> What you're pondering will do more harm than good.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Kevin C
>> > wrote:
>>
>> It would be really nice if we could get some of the
>> benefits that valve server has as a result of this change.
>> Most notably XP gain. There is already a weekly cap on XP,
>> why shouldn't I be able to earn it playing my servers?
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2015 1:03 AM, ics wrote:
>>
>> Some questions:
>>
>> 1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server updates - why
>> wouldn't CSGO?
>> 2. Does this help to get anymore benefits than having
>> server logged in, things like actually having people
>> to get operation drops from servers and gather xp
>> instead of going to Valve servers?
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Ido Magal kirjoitti:
>>
>>
>> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam
>> Game Server Login Tokens (GSLTs). *This is the
>> existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
>> migration.**
>>
>> This transition will happen in three stages:
>>
>> §Stage 1 *[NOW]* : The GSLT creation utility goes
>> live:https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers
>> .
>> Please test the interface and report back any
>> issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server
>> operators can now use this form to create GSLTs
>> for TF2 (AppId 440).
>>
>> §Stage 2: An update to CS:GO's dedicated server
>> will include the sv_setsteamaccount convar that
>> allows you to log in with your GSLT. In this stage
>> it will still be possible to run a dedicated
>> server without a GSLT. Anonymous login will happen
>> automatically if no game server login token is
>> specified. Please report back any issues with
>> logging in using the game server login token or
>> otherwise.
>>
>> §Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in
>> CS:GO. Please report back any issues.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Please ask questions in this thread.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
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[ics]

I was aware of this, just saying in advance if someone has the cvar 
somewhere else than autoexec.cfg.


-ics

Michael Loveless kirjoitti:
CSGO Servers have not been updated with the cvar as far as I know 
since we have not reached Stage 2 of the rollout process. All you can 
do now is create tokens for each of your servers in preparation for 
the change.


On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:03 AM, ics > wrote:


You might want to put that command into autoexec.cfg, because if
you leave it to server.cfg or too late on the command line, your
server won't log in properly or at all. I've had TF2 servers on
the autoexec.cfg and they function fine with it.

-ics

Usman Khan kirjoitti:

in console "sv_setsteamaccount" returns Unknown Command?

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Zaretti Steve

>> wrote:

Can't we update stored memo or retreive information about
server?
last ip/port seen.

I'm kind of lost:
https://i.gyazo.com/64095453f5cfd63728f20e599cfa8a78.png

2015-10-14 22:49 GMT+02:00 Mike 
>>:

Thousands of servers will abuse this, finding a way to
exploit
the EXP system, and at that point the damage is done;
EXP no
longer has any value.  Not to mention EXP farm servers
remove
the point of having a level 3 limit for competitive.

What you're pondering will do more harm than good.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Kevin C
 >> wrote:

It would be really nice if we could get some of the
benefits that valve server has as a result of this
change.
Most notably XP gain. There is already a weekly
cap on XP,
why shouldn't I be able to earn it playing my servers?


On 10/14/2015 1:03 AM, ics wrote:

Some questions:

1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server
updates - why
wouldn't CSGO?
2. Does this help to get anymore benefits than
having
server logged in, things like actually having
people
to get operation drops from servers and gather xp
instead of going to Valve servers?

-ics

Ido Magal kirjoitti:


Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server
Operation



*CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require
Steam
Game Server Login Tokens (GSLTs). *This is the
existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
migration.**

This transition will happen in three stages:

§Stage 1 *[NOW]* : The GSLT creation
utility goes
   
live:https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers.

Please test the interface and report back any
issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
server
operators can now use this form to create
GSLTs
for TF2 (AppId 440).

§Stage 2: An update to CS:GO's dedicated
server
will include the sv_setsteamaccount convar
that
allows you to log in with your GSLT. In
this stage
it will still be possible to run a dedicated
server without a GSLT. Anonymous login
will happen
automatically if no game server login token is
specified. Please report back any issues with
logging in using the game server login
token or
otherwise.

§Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in
CS:GO. Please report back any issues.



Please ask questions in this thread.

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On 24 October 2015 at 12:25, Usman Khan  wrote:

> in console "sv_setsteamaccount" returns Unknown Command?


Because we're still in Stage One.
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[Usman Khan]

in console "sv_setsteamaccount" returns Unknown Command?

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Zaretti Steve  wrote:

> Can't we update stored memo or retreive information about server? last
> ip/port seen.
>
> I'm kind of lost: https://i.gyazo.com/64095453f5cfd63728f20e599cfa8a78.png
>
> 2015-10-14 22:49 GMT+02:00 Mike :
>
>> Thousands of servers will abuse this, finding a way to exploit the EXP
>> system, and at that point the damage is done; EXP no longer has any value.
>> Not to mention EXP farm servers remove the point of having a level 3 limit
>> for competitive.
>>
>> What you're pondering will do more harm than good.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Kevin C  wrote:
>>
>>> It would be really nice if we could get some of the benefits that valve
>>> server has as a result of this change. Most notably XP gain. There is
>>> already a weekly cap on XP, why shouldn't I be able to earn it playing my
>>> servers?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2015 1:03 AM, ics wrote:
>>>
 Some questions:

 1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server updates - why wouldn't CSGO?
 2. Does this help to get anymore benefits than having server logged in,
 things like actually having people to get operation drops from servers and
 gather xp instead of going to Valve servers?

 -ics

 Ido Magal kirjoitti:

>
> Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation
>
>
> 
>
> *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login
> Tokens (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
> migration.**
>
> This transition will happen in three stages:
>
> §Stage 1 *[NOW]* : The GSLT creation utility goes live:
> https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
> interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
> server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 
> 440).
>
> §Stage 2: An update to CS:GO's dedicated server will include the
> sv_setsteamaccount convar that allows you to log in with your GSLT. In 
> this
> stage it will still be possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT.
> Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is
> specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game
> server login token or otherwise.
>
> §Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report
> back any issues.
>
>
> 
>
> Please ask questions in this thread.
>
> Cheers.
>
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[Roland Mondek]

Hello,

I've got a few questions to be correct. So the servers won't be listed by
IP in the favorites in the future ? If someone got banned and create new
IDs & run server on same IP it won't work ?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Absurd Minds 
wrote:

> If your customer has enough access to the server that they can get it
> banned, then I'm not sure why you wouldn't be expecting them to set the
> token themselves in the config.
> On Oct 19, 2015 7:44 AM, "Thiago Abreu"  wrote:
>
>> So, for an GSP.
>> If an customer get the server banned I will loose this unique TOKEN or
>> all remaining tokens (999) will be banned?
>>
>> 2015-10-15 17:00 GMT-03:00 Maxwell Cody :
>>
>>> This, and the ability to see what IP and port is associated with which
>>> token would be *really *great.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Nomaan Ahmad 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can you please add the ability to edit memo for generated tokens?
 Thanks.

 On 15 October 2015 at 20:47, Ido Magal  wrote:

> The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.
>
> Cheers.
>
> > On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal  wrote:
> >
> > Q. What is the purpose of this update?
> > A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some
> time now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the
> current IP banning method has on their operation has made this more urgent
> since with this feature we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad actors.
> >
> > Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this
> occurs will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
> > A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User will
> result in the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.
> >
> > Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
> > A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.
> >
> > Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
> > A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a
> qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently 
> non-qualifying.
> >
> > Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after
> stage three?
> > A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will
> not be able to connect.
> >
> > Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will
> we need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
> > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to
> creating a GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
> >
> > Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total
> lifetime, correct?
> > A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones. We're
> reevaluating the 50 token limit.
> >
> > Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
> > A. Fixed.
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[Absurd Minds]

If your customer has enough access to the server that they can get it
banned, then I'm not sure why you wouldn't be expecting them to set the
token themselves in the config.
On Oct 19, 2015 7:44 AM, "Thiago Abreu"  wrote:

> So, for an GSP.
> If an customer get the server banned I will loose this unique TOKEN or
> all remaining tokens (999) will be banned?
>
> 2015-10-15 17:00 GMT-03:00 Maxwell Cody :
>
>> This, and the ability to see what IP and port is associated with which
>> token would be *really *great.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Nomaan Ahmad 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you please add the ability to edit memo for generated tokens? Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 15 October 2015 at 20:47, Ido Magal  wrote:
>>>
 The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.

 Cheers.

 > On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal  wrote:
 >
 > Q. What is the purpose of this update?
 > A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some
 time now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the
 current IP banning method has on their operation has made this more urgent
 since with this feature we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad actors.
 >
 > Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this
 occurs will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
 > A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User will
 result in the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.
 >
 > Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
 > A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.
 >
 > Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
 > A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a
 qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently 
 non-qualifying.
 >
 > Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after
 stage three?
 > A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will
 not be able to connect.
 >
 > Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will
 we need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
 > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating
 a GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
 >
 > Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total
 lifetime, correct?
 > A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones. We're
 reevaluating the 50 token limit.
 >
 > Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
 > A. Fixed.
 >
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Thiago Abreu]

So, for an GSP.
If an customer get the server banned I will loose this unique TOKEN or
all remaining tokens (999) will be banned?

2015-10-15 17:00 GMT-03:00 Maxwell Cody :

> This, and the ability to see what IP and port is associated with which
> token would be *really *great.
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Nomaan Ahmad  wrote:
>
>> Can you please add the ability to edit memo for generated tokens? Thanks.
>>
>> On 15 October 2015 at 20:47, Ido Magal  wrote:
>>
>>> The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> > On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Q. What is the purpose of this update?
>>> > A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some time
>>> now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the current IP
>>> banning method has on their operation has made this more urgent since with
>>> this feature we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad actors.
>>> >
>>> > Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this
>>> occurs will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
>>> > A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User will
>>> result in the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.
>>> >
>>> > Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
>>> > A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.
>>> >
>>> > Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
>>> > A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a
>>> qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently non-qualifying.
>>> >
>>> > Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after
>>> stage three?
>>> > A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will
>>> not be able to connect.
>>> >
>>> > Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will
>>> we need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
>>> > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating
>>> a GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
>>> >
>>> > Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total
>>> lifetime, correct?
>>> > A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones. We're
>>> reevaluating the 50 token limit.
>>> >
>>> > Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
>>> > A. Fixed.
>>> >
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Nomaan Ahmad]

Right, this procedure only makes your server viewable on server browser
even if you changed your IP.

example:
You decided to move your server to another GSP and so you get newer IP.
This means you will lose all your traffic you had on your older IP.

But if you have this token setup on your server and your IP changes, you
wont lose your traffic and steam will update your older IP with your newer
IP so players who had your server in fav list etc will see the new IP
automatically. This was the sole purpose of this feature initially.

Now Valve will start using this for a new purpose too which is delisting
servers that are in violation. So your server wont appear on your player's
steam browser anymore if your server is in violation.

The servers will still be using IP:Port!

This feature isn't for GSPs to use but it's for their customers. When their
customer's server are in violation, Valve will delist their server and it
wont affect other servers on the same IP/machine. Simple.

On 19 October 2015 at 13:14, Roland Mondek  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've got a few questions to be correct. So the servers won't be listed by
> IP in the favorites in the future ? If someone got banned and create new
> IDs & run server on same IP it won't work ?
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Absurd Minds 
> wrote:
>
>> If your customer has enough access to the server that they can get it
>> banned, then I'm not sure why you wouldn't be expecting them to set the
>> token themselves in the config.
>> On Oct 19, 2015 7:44 AM, "Thiago Abreu"  wrote:
>>
>>> So, for an GSP.
>>> If an customer get the server banned I will loose this unique TOKEN or
>>> all remaining tokens (999) will be banned?
>>>
>>> 2015-10-15 17:00 GMT-03:00 Maxwell Cody :
>>>
 This, and the ability to see what IP and port is associated with which
 token would be *really *great.

 On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Nomaan Ahmad 
 wrote:

> Can you please add the ability to edit memo for generated tokens?
> Thanks.
>
> On 15 October 2015 at 20:47, Ido Magal  wrote:
>
>> The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> > On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal  wrote:
>> >
>> > Q. What is the purpose of this update?
>> > A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some
>> time now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the
>> current IP banning method has on their operation has made this more 
>> urgent
>> since with this feature we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad 
>> actors.
>> >
>> > Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this
>> occurs will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
>> > A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User
>> will result in the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.
>> >
>> > Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
>> > A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.
>> >
>> > Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
>> > A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a
>> qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently 
>> non-qualifying.
>> >
>> > Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after
>> stage three?
>> > A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will
>> not be able to connect.
>> >
>> > Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ?
>> will we need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
>> > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to
>> creating a GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
>> >
>> > Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total
>> lifetime, correct?
>> > A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones.
>> We're reevaluating the 50 token limit.
>> >
>> > Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
>> > A. Fixed.
>> >
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Niko]

Hello,
are there any dates for stage2?
Any updates regarding the issues discussed on this list?
I'm looking forward in issuing the tokens to my servers.

BR,
Niko


Ido Magal kirjoitti:


Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation




*CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game
Server Login Tokens (GSLTs). *This is the existing
system that TF2 uses for Favorites migration.**

This transition will happen in three stages:

§Stage 1 *[NOW]* : The GSLT creation utility goes
live:https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers.
Please test the interface and report back any issues
in creating accounts. Note that TF2 server operators
can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).

§Stage 2: An update to CS:GO's dedicated server will
include the sv_setsteamaccount convar that allows you
to log in with your GSLT. In this stage it will still
be possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT.
Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game
server login token is specified. Please report back
any issues with logging in using the game server login
token or otherwise.

§Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO.
Please report back any issues.




Please ask questions in this thread.

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[Alexander Corn]

Thanks, Ido! That's great news.

Can you please address the ability to login anonymously? Specifically it
would be desirable for servers to continue logging in anonymously, but
without being listed on the GMS. This way direct IP connections would still
work.

This would be preferable for those who run matchmaking and temporary server
rental services.

Besides that, I think the remaining restrictions are reasonable. The phone
number requirement is not ideal (and can be easily bypassed), but it can be
lived with

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ido Magal  wrote:

> The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.
>
> Cheers.
>
> > On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal  wrote:
> >
> > Q. What is the purpose of this update?
> > A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some time
> now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the current IP
> banning method has on their operation has made this more urgent since with
> this feature we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad actors.
> >
> > Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this occurs
> will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
> > A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User will
> result in the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.
> >
> > Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
> > A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.
> >
> > Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
> > A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a
> qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently non-qualifying.
> >
> > Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after
> stage three?
> > A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will not
> be able to connect.
> >
> > Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will we
> need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
> > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating a
> GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
> >
> > Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total lifetime,
> correct?
> > A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones. We're
> reevaluating the 50 token limit.
> >
> > Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
> > A. Fixed.
> >
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Usman Khan]

Why multiple tokens if one could run on all servers, if ur idea was to ban
an actual user, like its v easy to paste same in multiple cfgs then just to
copy paste different tokens especially with large number of servers
On 16 Oct 2015 23:31, "Alexander Corn"  wrote:

> Thanks, Ido! That's great news.
>
> Can you please address the ability to login anonymously? Specifically it
> would be desirable for servers to continue logging in anonymously, but
> without being listed on the GMS. This way direct IP connections would still
> work.
>
> This would be preferable for those who run matchmaking and temporary
> server rental services.
>
> Besides that, I think the remaining restrictions are reasonable. The phone
> number requirement is not ideal (and can be easily bypassed), but it can be
> lived with
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ido Magal  wrote:
>
>> The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> > On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal  wrote:
>> >
>> > Q. What is the purpose of this update?
>> > A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some time
>> now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the current IP
>> banning method has on their operation has made this more urgent since with
>> this feature we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad actors.
>> >
>> > Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this occurs
>> will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
>> > A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User will
>> result in the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.
>> >
>> > Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
>> > A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.
>> >
>> > Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
>> > A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a
>> qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently non-qualifying.
>> >
>> > Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after
>> stage three?
>> > A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will not
>> be able to connect.
>> >
>> > Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will we
>> need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
>> > A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating a
>> GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
>> >
>> > Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total
>> lifetime, correct?
>> > A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones. We're
>> reevaluating the 50 token limit.
>> >
>> > Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
>> > A. Fixed.
>> >
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Kevin]

Do you even know what your talking about?

Who are you to tell server owners whether or not they can or can't force
players to watch motd ads? 

It's our server, and in order to play on it you have to obey our rules and
requirements. Valve isn't ever gonna change this, because it does not
violate their TOS. Server owners can prevent anyone from playing on their
servers for any reason, whether thats due to high ping, the country they're
from, what language they speak, or what cvars they are use. 



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Egner]

VAVLE this is somthing that will kill the CSGO scene. This is for sure! Do
something about the plugins problem instead of giving us in the community
problems like this.

SHAME ON YOU VALVE!

YOU ARE KILLING THE SCENE!

CONGRATULATIONS!



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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Asher Baker]

You can re-use a token on multiple servers - you just can't have multiple
logged in using the same token. You only need as many tokens as you are
running concurrent instances.


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On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Daniel Saewitz 
wrote:

> Thanks for raising the limit to 1000.
>
> Would you consider the ability to reuse a single token for multiple
> servers?
>
> I run a large number of instances that are ephemeral and therefore do
> not necessitate long-lasting “favorites”. Assuming there is an API to
> create and delete tokens, this new restriction on servers would add a
> single point of failure if Steam’s API goes down.
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Ido Magal wrote:
>
> We do not intend to ban IPs once we can hold Steam users (not the GSLT)
> accountable for their servers.
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 14:35, Michael Loveless 
> wrote:
>
> I would also like to pose the same question as Mishu but in
> reverse...let's say I have all my community servers assigned to my personal
> account and I get overwatch or VAC banned...can I just make a new account,
> new tokens, reassign them to my servers and be good to go? or will my IP
> get a permanent blacklist? I'm assuming new tokens would fix it up but it's
> worth asking since Ido hasn't done another follow up on the questions yet.
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:24 PM, MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de <
> mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de> wrote:
>
> Hey Ido, hey Vitaly,
>
> what will happen if someone of your friends/customers do anything
> forbidden with the server with a token of for example me?  Will i get
> 'personal punishment' or is just the token 'banned/blacklisted'?
>
> thx!
>
>
>
> Am 15.10.2015 um 21:47 schrieb Ido Magal:
>
> The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal  wrote:
>
> Q. What is the purpose of this update?
> A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some time
> now. Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the current IP
> banning method has on their operation has made this more urgent since with
> this feature we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad actors.
>
> Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this occurs
> will the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
> A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User will
> result in the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.
>
> Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
> A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.
>
> Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
> A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a
> qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently non-qualifying.
>
> Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after stage
> three?
> A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will not be
> able to connect.
>
> Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will we
> need BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
> A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating a
> GSLT. It is no longer necessary.
>
> Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total lifetime,
> correct?
> A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones. We're
> reevaluating the 50 token limit.
>
> Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
> A. Fixed.
>
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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[mailing]

Careful though!

Each time a server logs in with a token, the favorites of your clients update 
to that specific ip:port.

That means that if you have 10 servers cycling, only one will ever show up in 
the favorites, and that will be the last one you started. (depending on how 
fast valve updates that list).



You probably would want to avoid that.

BR,

Niko



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[mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Asher Baker
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:20
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation



You can re-use a token on multiple servers - you just can't have multiple 
logged in using the same token. You only need as many tokens as you are running 
concurrent instances.





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  And they went to sea in a Sieve." - Edward Lear



On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Daniel Saewitz <dan...@popflash.site 
<mailto:dan...@popflash.site> > wrote:

Thanks for raising the limit to 1000.



Would you consider the ability to reuse a single token for multiple servers?



I run a large number of instances that are ephemeral and therefore do not 
necessitate long-lasting “favorites”. Assuming there is an API to create and 
delete tokens, this new restriction on servers would add a single point of 
failure if Steam’s API goes down.

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Ido Magal wrote:

We do not intend to ban IPs once we can hold Steam users (not the GSLT) 
accountable for their servers.






On Oct 15, 2015, at 14:35, Michael Loveless <mloveless1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mloveless1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I would also like to pose the same question as Mishu but in reverse...let's say 
I have all my community servers assigned to my personal account and I get 
overwatch or VAC banned...can I just make a new account, new tokens, reassign 
them to my servers and be good to go? or will my IP get a permanent blacklist? 
I'm assuming new tokens would fix it up but it's worth asking since Ido hasn't 
done another follow up on the questions yet.



On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:24 PM, MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de 
<http://gameserver-syndicate.de>  <mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de 
<mailto:mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de> > wrote:



Hey Ido, hey Vitaly,

what will happen if someone of your friends/customers do anything forbidden 
with the server with a token of for example me?  Will i get 'personal 
punishment' or is just the token 'banned/blacklisted'?

thx!




Am 15.10.2015 um 21:47 schrieb Ido Magal:



The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.

Cheers.




On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal <i...@valvesoftware.com 
<mailto:i...@valvesoftware.com> > wrote:

Q. What is the purpose of this update?
A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from TF2 for some time now. 
Game Server Providers' complaint about the impact that the current IP banning 
method has on their operation has made this more urgent since with this feature 
we'll also be able to shield GSPs from bad actors.

Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the token, or if this occurs will 
the tokens become invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning Steam User will result in 
the disabling of all of that user's GSLTs.

Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server unless I own CS:GO?
A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.

Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what constitutes a qualifying 
phone number. VOIP / burner numbers are currently non-qualifying.

Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into an account after stage three?
A. The result will be identical to the current IP ban: players will not be able 
to connect.

Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the webapi_authkey ? will we need 
BOTH keys now to use the workshop?
A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate step to creating a GSLT. 
It is no longer necessary.

Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time, not 50 total lifetime, 
correct?
A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate new ones. We're 
reevaluating the 50 token limit.

Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
A. Fixed.


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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de]

Hello Ido, hello Vitaly,

thank you for your answers.

Cause all token will be banned if there was something on (just) one 
server, we really need a absolutely short but detailed and very clear 
list of what is completely forbidden and will cause a ban. Not everyone 
hosting or renting a server is in the list and need such a list to 
prevent a ban.


Thx!


Am 16.10.2015 um 00:23 schrieb Ido Magal:



On Oct 15, 2015, at 15:21, Daniel Barreiro 
> wrote:


So just to be 100% clear, if a single token gets banned all tokens 
from that user are invalidated? So GSPs should NOT generate tokens 
for their clients?


Correct.




Also, will this change include more options to report community 
servers? It's fairly limited at the moment and ways to report 
community servers for abuse would be very helpful.


We'll consider that.




On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Ido Magal > wrote:


We do not intend to ban IPs once we can hold Steam users (not the
GSLT) accountable for their servers.



On Oct 15, 2015, at 14:35, Michael Loveless
> wrote:


I would also like to pose the same question as Mishu but in
reverse...let's say I have all my community servers assigned to
my personal account and I get overwatch or VAC banned...can I
just make a new account, new tokens, reassign them to my servers
and be good to go? or will my IP get a permanent blacklist? I'm
assuming new tokens would fix it up but it's worth asking since
Ido hasn't done another follow up on the questions yet.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:24 PM, MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de
 > wrote:

Hey Ido, hey Vitaly,

what will happen if someone of your friends/customers do
anything forbidden with the server with a token of for
example me?  Will i get 'personal punishment' or is just the
token 'banned/blacklisted'?

thx!



Am 15.10.2015 um 21:47 schrieb Ido Magal:

The token limit has been increased from 50 to 1000.

Cheers.

On Oct 13, 2015, at 18:38, Ido Magal
> wrote:

Q. What is the purpose of this update?
A. We had intended to adopt Favorites migration from
TF2 for some time now. Game Server Providers'
complaint about the impact that the current IP
banning method has on their operation has made this
more urgent since with this feature we'll also be
able to shield GSPs from bad actors.

Q. Is this [ new method ] just to generate the
token, or if this occurs will the tokens become
invalid while that ban/lock is in place?
A. Any such or similar infraction by the GSLT owning
Steam User will result in the disabling of all of
that user's GSLTs.

Q. So does this mean I can't run a CS:GO server
unless I own CS:GO?
A. That will be correct as of Stage 3.

Q. So people need to have landlines to run servers now?
A. No. But there are currently restrictions on what
constitutes a qualifying phone number. VOIP / burner
numbers are currently non-qualifying.

Q. What specifically happens if you don't log into
an account after stage three?
A. The result will be identical to the current IP
ban: players will not be able to connect.

Q. So can these tokens be used in place of the
webapi_authkey ? will we need BOTH keys now to use
the workshop?
A. The webapi authkey was previously an intermediate
step to creating a GSLT. It is no longer necessary.

Q. And just to be clear, it's 50 at any one time,
not 50 total lifetime, correct?
A. Correct. You can delete unused GSLTs and generate
new ones. We're reevaluating the 50 token limit.

Q. Why don't my previously registered servers show up?
A. Fixed.


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Re: [Csgo_servers] Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

[Tom Devonport]

Community servers won't have XP? Isn't that a thing to keep people on valve
servers?
I am curious how this will affect server hosting in the long run, it just
seems like an extra hoop to jump through.

On 14 October 2015 at 21:49, Mike  wrote:

> Thousands of servers will abuse this, finding a way to exploit the EXP
> system, and at that point the damage is done; EXP no longer has any value.
> Not to mention EXP farm servers remove the point of having a level 3 limit
> for competitive.
>
> What you're pondering will do more harm than good.
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Kevin C  wrote:
>
>> It would be really nice if we could get some of the benefits that valve
>> server has as a result of this change. Most notably XP gain. There is
>> already a weekly cap on XP, why shouldn't I be able to earn it playing my
>> servers?
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2015 1:03 AM, ics wrote:
>>
>>> Some questions:
>>>
>>> 1. TF2 allows anonymous logins on server updates - why wouldn't CSGO?
>>> 2. Does this help to get anymore benefits than having server logged in,
>>> things like actually having people to get operation drops from servers and
>>> gather xp instead of going to Valve servers?
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> Ido Magal kirjoitti:
>>>

 Notice of changes to CS:GO Game Server Operation

 

 *CS:GO dedicated servers will soon require Steam Game Server Login
 Tokens (GSLTs). *This is the existing system that TF2 uses for Favorites
 migration.**

 This transition will happen in three stages:

 §Stage 1 *[NOW]* : The GSLT creation utility goes live:
 https://steamcommunity.com/dev/managegameservers. Please test the
 interface and report back any issues in creating accounts. Note that TF2
 server operators can now use this form to create GSLTs for TF2 (AppId 440).

 §Stage 2: An update to CS:GO's dedicated server will include the
 sv_setsteamaccount convar that allows you to log in with your GSLT. In this
 stage it will still be possible to run a dedicated server without a GSLT.
 Anonymous login will happen automatically if no game server login token is
 specified. Please report back any issues with logging in using the game
 server login token or otherwise.

 §Stage 3: Anonymous logins will be disabled in CS:GO. Please report
 back any issues.

 

 Please ask questions in this thread.

 Cheers.



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