Re: [CTRL] Living in corporate America.
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 6:03:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Explanation: The poorest 40 percent of Americans did not contribute as much to the lifestyle and productivity of American individuals as did Bill Gates. Unlike the poorest 40%, everyone who bought goods from Microsoft did so as a voluntary decision, whereas many of the poorest 40% were recipients of funds extorted by threat of violence from the other 60%. Hawk, you seem to live in a dark pit. On the contrary, my dear man, I live in the bright sunshine of Texas! I even ocassionally venture outside the borders of this magnificent republic. Your response is so appalling that i first passed it by because in the face of such unreality, there doesn't seem to be much to say. Why, Son, that's because there really ISN'T much to say against it, which is all you have any interest in... So, I suppose you're going to bless us with more blather But i will say this. See? I knew it! Suppose that you are perfectly right. I am. Gates wealth relative to the 40% is solely due to his superior productivity so that God Almighty and all decent right thinking citizens see the justice. I might have something to do with saving some back for a "rainy day," hiding some from the greedy and voracious govm't tax collectors, prospering due to the adage, "Help enough people get what they want, and you can have anything you want," and other factors that such as thrift and generosity.. I suspect there is more to it than "pure productivity." Suppose Gates were to increase his productivity even more in ratio to his fellows so that his wealth now exceeds 80% of the population. Would such a wealth distribution be wise even for Mr. Gates? Why not? The fact that he has more doesn't mean that I have less If I didn't have two automobiles, would one suddenly appear in front of some African's hut? As a matter of fact, my own wealth has been INCREASING during the period of time that Bre'r Gates' has been increasing... Ain't that sort of wierd in your contorted economic theory? If there is some causal relationship, I hope Gates does continue to increase his wealth. You haven't come to realize that "wet streets don't cause rain." If so, do you suppose that there might be some point at which society becomes so unstable that the game is over? Don't wish too hard for it... You seem to always get around to some veiled "people's revolution" BS... You're a lot like NUREV, both of you rave on with your Walter Middy delusions of revolutionary grandeur, but I suspect that neither of you would have any idea of what to do if you were suddenly plopped into the middle of revolution... like my Mercedes suddenly materializing in front of the African's hut. Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Norris Acoustical Hetrodyne Effect
-Caveat Lector- At 11:58 AM 1-11-1999 -0800, Wes wrote: Bill, please clarify who's speaking here: Many write me...Our system is completely psychotronic." What does the writer mean by "our system" and "psychotronic"? Please explain why we need undefined (bogus?) "psychotronics" to explain the described audio transmission system, which appears to be related to the conventional physics of beat frequencies. Wes, Here's some more claims from Amargi Hillier, but nothing specific. (I'll believe it when I hear it.) Los Angeles was perhaps chosen for a test site as it is alleged to be a primary 'earth chakra'. Could this be a Theosophical Society project ? They're the ones who 'ID' Los Angeles as such. Note the mention of Bombay, India -- location of the former? headquarters of the T.S. Maybe the Maitreya will throw the switch. --Bill Amargiland/Project Duat Update - Dec 16,1998 Project Duat's protocols have remained secret for over 12 years now, birthing originally as a continuation with upgrade of the Nikola Tesla proposed global free energy wireless communication system. Over the years, my research has led the Project down many roads into where it has come to this date. Our protocols do not involve electronics but rather the combination of hyper-dimensional physics, Telsa non- mechanical or non-electronic systems, symbolism, psychotronics, ancient power sources and more. The transmission towers do not have to be built; they have already been here for many thousands of years. The wiring does not have to be strewn; the grid network of ancient sites around the world has been in place for eons. The power source does not need to be developed, the planet and ionosphere is already a charge capacitor of stored energy. Project Duat's current member's names are not public information, so don't ask. You cannot join the Project, you are selected and invited by myself. The next phase of invitations has begun on December 10th, 1998 and will end on December 10th, 1999. The main secret body will eventually consist of thirty-three specialized individuals around the world. Project Duat will end on 2012 when the Project has been completed. And hopefully I will be around to retire in Florence, Italy or Bombay, India. Volunteers who have seeked to help do not comprise of the main team, but rather the Project's 'support team'. The support team is open to all who wish to help, but are not privy to the protocols by the main team members. Sorry. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Lloyd Miller wrote: -Caveat Lector- Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest Generation. What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI! Dispatching Nazi and Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese totalitarianism. A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure! Hey I like what you say tell us more! Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: There is primarily ONE reason for the burden of violence we experience... When a crime is committed, it is not followed SWIFTLY by CERTAIN (and appropriate) punishment. Over 95% of FELONIES in the U.S. are "unsolved," whereas in Japan, over 95% of felonies result in jail time. Hawk yea, when we use rhetoric instead of citing actual figures, we get into some pretty sticky areas. if we follow your rhetoric with the fact that there are more innocent people in jail than there are guilty ones running free; where does that get us? your grandiousity in the face of your overt and infamously obvious ignorance about so many things is truely inspiring. you make me feel smart and i know that i do not know anything, but you; you know sooo much. woow. evilly grinnin' chris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ANOTHER KIND OF DRUG PROBLEM
-Caveat Lector- RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT HEALTH WEEKLY #632 ---January 7, 1999--- ANOTHER KIND OF DRUG PROBLEM A medical report in 1998 estimated that adverse reactions to prescription drugs are killing about 106,000 Americans each year -- roughly three times as many as are killed by automobiles.[1] This makes prescription drugs the fourth leading killer in the U.S., after heart disease, cancer, and stroke. The report included only drugs that were given properly and under normal circumstances, excluding drugs that were administered in error or taken in attempted suicides. (When errors of administration are included, the death toll may be as high as 140,000 per year.[2] Such errors include prescribing the wrong drug or the wrong dosage; giving medications to the wrong person; giving medications to the right person but in the wrong quantities or the wrong frequencies, and so forth.) According to the 1998 report, which analyzed the data from 39 separate studies conducted over the last 32 years in U.S. hospitals, 3.2 out of every 1000 (or 3200 per million) hospital patients die from adverse reactions to prescription drugs. Of the 106,000 people killed each year by prescription drugs in the U.S., 41% (43,000) were admitted to the hospital because of an adverse drug reaction; the other 59% (63,000 people) were hospitalized for some other cause but developed a fatal reaction to prescription drugs they received while hospitalized. In the U.S. in 1994, there were 33,125,492 hospital admissions. The sale of prescription drugs has more than doubled in the U.S. during the past 8 years. In 1990, Americans spent $37.7 billion on prescriptions; in 1997, national spending on prescriptions reached 78.9 billion.[3] Prescription drugs are the fastest-growing portion of health-care costs, having risen at the rate of 17% per year for the past few years.[3] Urging physicians to prescribe particular drugs -- especially new drugs -- is a huge business. According to the NEW YORK TIMES, the sales force of the largest 40 drug companies has "exploded" in recent years.[3] In 1994, there were 35,000 full-time "detail people" employed by drug companies to visit doctors and describe pharmaceutical products; by 1998, the number had grown to 56,000 -- one sales person for every 11 physicians.[3] Drug companies spent $5.3 billion in the first 11 months of 1998 sending their "detail people" into doctors' offices and hospitals, plus another $1 billion putting on "marketing events" for doctors. Not all adverse reactions to new drugs can be anticipated or avoided under the present system, according to medical experts. "It is simply not possible to identify all the adverse effects of drugs before they are marketed," say three physicians writing in the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE.[4] In fact, "Overall, 51% of approved drugs have serious side effects not detected prior to approval."[5] Side effects from new drugs cannot be anticipated for 2 main reasons: (1) Individuals vary greatly in their reactions to chemical substances; and (2) drugs are tested rare side effects may not appear in such a small group but may become painfully obvious when millions of people start taking the drug. Even a few years ago, drugs reached a mass audience slowly, providing time for unexpected side effects to show up in relatively small numbers of people. But today drugs are marketed directly to consumers via TV, so a huge market for a new product can be created quickly and side effects can appear in large numbers of people. The sexual potency drug, Viagra, provides an example of this phenomenon. Within a few months of its introduction, several million people began taking Viagra, and many serious side effects, including fatalities, suddenly appeared. Despite the widespread knowledge that half of all new drugs will cause serious side effects in some people, neither the government nor the drug companies systematically collect information on adverse reactions to new drugs. "Even when it is recognized that a new drug will be given to many patients for many years, rarely are systematic post-marketing studies carried out."[4] In the U.S., there is no formal procedure for monitoring drug safety. If physicians became aware that a new drug has killed or maimed one of their patients, or caused an allergic reaction, they may report it but they also may not. As reports filter into the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in hit-or-miss fashion, FDA can revoke the approval of a drug, and sometimes does, but almost never quickly. In December, 1997, the popular nonsedating antihistamine terfenadine was withdrawn from the market because a safer alternative existed without terfenadine's danger of a potentially fatal heart arrhythmia (irregular heart beat). However, by that time terfenadine had been on the market 12 years. Last September the FDA took the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Price We Pay: The 10 Worst Corporations of 1998
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: The Price We Pay: The 10 Worst Corporations of 1998 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:47:30 -0500 From: Robert Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list CORP-FOCUS [EMAIL PROTECTED] What did we learn in 1998? Speaking of the clammoring for "documentation" and "citations" and "URL's" for everything contrary to what the brain-dead liberals believe where is the documentation for all of this? Hawk Microsoft Chairman and CEO Bill Gates' net wealth -- $51 billion -- is greater than the combined net worth of the poorest 40 percent of Americans (106 million people). Hundreds of hospitals are "dumping" patients who can't afford to pay. The feds are criminally prosecuting big tobacco companies for smuggling cigarettes into Canada. (Never mind addicting young kids to smoke and thus condemning them to a certain, albeit, slow, death -- can't criminally prosecute them for that.) There's a bull market in stock fraud. Prescription drugs may cause 100,000 deaths a year. Two Fox-TV reporters in Florida are fired for trying to report on adverse health effects associated with genetically engineered foods. The U.S. Department of Agriculture proposes that genetically engineered foods be labelled "organic." Coal companies continue to cheat on air quality tests as hundreds of coal miners continue to die each year from black lung disease. The North American Securities Administrators Association estimates that Americans lose about $1 million a hour to securities fraud. Robert Reich says that megamergers threaten democracy. Corporate crime explodes, but the academic study of corporate crime vanishes. Three hundred trade unionists around the world were killed in 1997 for defending their rights. Corporate firms lobbying to cripple the Superfund law outnumber environmental groups seeking to defend it by 30 to one. Down on Nike? Chinese political prisoners allegedly make Adidas products. Blue Cross Blue Shield Illinois is a corporate criminal. Chemical companies are testing pesticides on human beings. Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, questions whether the Pentagon's financial controls have suffered a "complete and utter breakdown." Environmental crimes prosecution are down sharply under Clinton/Gore. Bush/Quayle had a better record. Bell Atlantic buys Maurice Sendak's Where the Wild Things Are illustrations to sell telephone products. Companies that have workers die on the job continue to be met with fines. Criminal prosecutions still rare. This is the price we pay for living in Corporate America. Wealth disparity, megamergers and the resulting consolidation of corporate power, commercialism run amok, rampant corporate crime, death without justice, pollution, cancer and an unrelenting attack on democracy. The 1998 market run-up might make plugged-in America feel good about itself, but big business is eating out the democratic foundation of the country, and when the empty shell crumbles, what kind of chaos might we anticipate? If you have justice on your mind, herewith for the tenth consecutive year is Multinational Monitor's effort to pinpoint those responsible. It is, admittedly, a short list -- the Ten Worst Corporations of 1998. But it is a representative list, and as the damage becomes more apparent, as the outrage at, and contempt for, our fearless leaders grows, surely the list, too, will grow. The Ten Worst Corporations of 1998 are: * Chevron, for continuing to do business with a brutal dictatorship in Nigeria and for alleged complicity in the killing of civilian protesters. * Coca-Cola, for hooking America's kids on sugar and soda water. Today, teenage boys and girls drink twice as much soda pop as milk, whereas 20 years ago they drank nearly twice as much milk as soda. * General Motors, for becoming an integral part of the Nazi war machine, and then years later, when documented proof emerges, denying it. * Loral and its chief executive Bernard Schwartz, for dumping $2.2 million into Clinton/Gore and Democratic Party coffers. The Clinton administration responded by approving a human rights waiver to clear the way for technology transfers to China. * Mobil, for supporting the Indonesian military in crushing an indigenous uprising in Aceh province and allegedly allowing the military to use company machinery to dig mass graves. * Monsanto, for introducing genetically engineered foods into the foodstream without adequate safety testing and without labeling, thus exposing consumers to unknown risks. * Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, for pleading guilty to felony crimes for dumping oil in the Atlantic Ocean and then lying to the Coast Guard about it. * Unocal, for engaging in numerous acts of pollution and law violations, to such a degree that citizens in California petitioned the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Price We Pay: The 10 Worst Corporations of 1998
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Speaking of the clammoring for "documentation" and "citations" and "URL's" for everything contrary to what the brain-dead liberals believe where is the documentation for all of this? Hawk you would do well to look and see where you got your definition for the designate "liberal", because there you will find someone with a direct connection to think tank dittonetwork who are card carrying nazis intent on social manipulation and engineering. these are one and the same as those whose power and audacity have grown to such megaporportions that when they point a finger and call a molehill a mountain; all are to conform to their will. not that i am any particular friend to clinton but that is exactly what they are doing with him. if they got him on anything bigger than that, it would bring them all down; because they are all guilty of any attrocity they could pin on him. you must know some pretty strange people. one bad apple and all that. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] William: Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: William: He's a true champion of the 1st Amendment and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right. Cheers to Larry! Keep up the fight! Here! Here! If there's anything which pisses me off more than Clinton's illegal behavior, it's the fascist pr**ks who are out to get him. The two states of mind are NOT contradictory. It's high time that Republicans got a taste of their own vile medicine. Here's hoping that Flynt has more than what was offered last night. Edward let's have a brawl on the floors of congress. maybe we could get the National Championship Wrestling Federation to referree the the event. we could put the whole thing on pay per view an charge fitty-nine bucks just to see um. we could get russia to provide the vodka and the drug cartels could provide the cocaine and the national pageantry association could provide the broads. alan king could produce it. think of the possibilities DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Living in corporate America.
-Caveat Lector- M.A. Johnson wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: Historian Arnold Toynbee studied 21 past civilizations, looking for common factors in their demise. The two most important ones were the EXTREME CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH, and inflexibility in the face of changing conditions within and around them. Aaaah ... but were they FREE societies? Regard$, --MJ Aristotle may be regarded as the cultural barometer of Western history. Whenever his influence dominated the scene, it paved the way for one of history's brilliant eras; whenever it fell, so did mankind. -- Alyssa Rosenbaum Oswald Spengler also investigated the rise and fall of civilizatons in his great book: "The Decline of the West". He found that the growth of centralized power and the development of a welfare state also were characteristics of the end of a civilization. The expansion of the difference between highest and lowest is probably related to those two characteristics, as well. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Double Standards in the War on Drugs
-Caveat Lector- http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4885/standards.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Persinger responds to mind-control allegations
-Caveat Lector- M.A.R.K (psuedonym), following our recent private correspondence, i feel i should now bring this into the open. What are your TRUE motives for being on this list?? MARK wrote: -Caveat Lector- I just received this from Mindcontrol-l, interesting huh? -Original Message- From: Wes Thomas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 1999 20:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MC] Persinger responds to mind-control allegations Following is a response from Dr. Michael Persinger to a message I sent him. I asked him: "Some have stated on the lists that your research has been used for non-consensual mind-control experimentation and that calls into question your integrity. I'd like to offer you an opportunity to respond to that and perhaps clarify your role, if any, in mind control research." I sent this message in response to Gordon Tibbles' [EMAIL PROTECTED] post 27 Dec 1998: "I find it rather offensive that anyone of integrity would quote Persinger on anything, unless using his research to point out the inconsistencies in the man's ethics." I also copied a thread on Earth frequencies and asked Persinger to comment on their possible bioactive effects. His response: Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:54:00 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: answer to your email 6 January, 1999 Mr. Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mr. Thomas: Thank you for the e-mail of 29 December, 1998 regarding the evolving technology of electromagnetic field effects upon cognition. My students and I wonder why the myths and irresponsible speculations (e.g, Doc Hambone) [http://www.io.com/~hambone/web/persinger.html - WT] about me and our research appear to propagate so easily and without challenge. I would be happy to answer your inquiries. You may also wish to access our WEB page (Behavioral Neuroscience Research Group, Laurentian University). The address is www.laurentian.ca/www/neurosci/lindex.html. 1. I am not involved nor have I ever been involved in any "mind control" studies. All of our research involves protocols that have been approved by Ethics Committees and requires the signed consent of the participant. Our research indicates that although experiences can be affected by applied complex magnetic fields, there is no evidence that specific thoughts can be "controlled". From a quantitative context, the most powerful form of "mind control" is the limited access to data and information. The range of ideas that a person is allowed to express and the types of data that a person is allowed to view are limited significantly by the constraints of the communication media and what is considered acceptable or not acceptable by the powerful groups within the persons' culture. 2. My research has not been "funded by U.S. interests". All of the money for our human research for the last 30 years has been from my personal income as a professor. The only funding ($10,000) we ever obtained from the U.S. was from the U.S. Navy, thanks to Eldon Byrd, to evaluate the effects of 0.5 Hz rotating magnetic fields upon the degranulation of mast cells in the rat brain. The effect was small but statistically significant. Traditional sources of funding, especially the Canadian Research Agencies such as NSERC, have ignored or trivialized our requests to study these important problems. My laboratories have been graciously supplied by Laurentian University and the work has been completed by dedicated and interested graduate and undergraduate students. 3. In order to minimize the potential inappropriate application of our discoveries we publish our work within the public domain, i.e., scientific journals. The history of science has shown that protection of the public requires free access to data. 4. In principle and from the perspective of our empirical observations, derived from about 1000 subjects tested during the last 15 years, there is evidence that complex, weak magnetic fields can evoke specific experiences. The type of experience is related in general to the temporal pattern or "time signatures" of the field and the cerebral hemisphere to which it is applied. When the fields are applied to the right hemisphere (particularly the parietal/temporal regions) the most typical experience is that of a sensed presence, or entity. We hypothesize that this presence, which is extremely common historically and cross-culturally, is the awareness of the right hemispheric equivalent of the left hemispheric (linguistic) sense of self. We also suspect that the presence is the prototype to religious/mystical experiences. The details of the experience are strongly determined by the person's beliefs which are supplied by the culture. We hypothesize that UFO or extraterrestrial visitation experiences--and the many variants
Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- I've just returned from working undercover at the "Parisien Mime Expo' 99" held, oddly enough, in Lyon. It was a very quiet affair, with only a few coughs, farts and burps breaking the silence. However, the audience was held in rapture as Secretary General for the International Mime Federation - Jean Baptiste Hufflinger, demonstrated to the amusement of the gathering, how he would feel the walls if he were imprisoned in an invisible cage. The group found this hilarious. Next he showed how to walk against an imaginary strong wind - again, uproarious silent laughter from the audience. Lunch consisted of invisible sandwiches being eaten from invisible plates, whilst opening imaginary bottles to drink from. The dress code was a black and white striped top, black trousers, white gloves, white face-paint and a bowler hat with a flower sticking from it. After lunch, Presidente Henri Denieux held our interest when, as suspected, he detailed plans for Global Domination by the Mime culture. He mimed that their terrorist group - Mimists Overthrowing Rest Of Normality (M.O.R.O.N.) have already had great success with new recruits in Shopping Centres, Fairs, Street Corners, Birthday Parties and Schools. He was just about to reveal the next stage of his plan, when my white face paint began to run, and I was noticed for the undercover agent that I am. I had to make a hasty retreat, and escape from hundreds of Mimists who were all running on the spot trying to get to me. I am now back in my native UK, and beg you all to rise up and stop the menace of the Mimist and MORONs. Rise now, before it is too late. -Original Message- From: Brown, Jeremy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 January 1999 20:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Laura, You raise an interesting point. However, I must argue that the comparison of mime to x-rated movies doesn't hold much water. I admit to being a little confused by this approach. How did you reach this conclusion? If I want to see a film of that type, I have to get in my car, drive to a video store, walk behind the groovy beaded curtain and pay for my selection. It is a conscious decision on my part. However, a mime just comes up to you without your consent or invitation and assaults your senses with a barrage of cheap laughs and minimalist entertainment. As for the message, an x-rated film's is pretty simple. "Get your rocks off cheap!". A mime has no message. He or she is just a talentless hack who's foisting off a dying art form on you in hopes of procuring spare change. In addition, from a sociological point of view, mimes don't have a leg to stand on against x-rated entertainment. The reason being, is that if you lined up a group of people outside of two rooms, and behind one door was a screening room showing a "blue movie", and behind the other door was a mime, I would be willing to bet that room #2 would be stark empty! Not that I'm endorsing x-rated entertainment per say, but you and I know human nature well enough to agree that most people (men and women) would take nudity and sex over some creep on a unicycle. That is quite interesting about the Clintons. Although it doesn't really surprise me. Take care, Jeremy -- From: L. Shipton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Hey this sounds like what they pass off as Art in Washington. Hillary backs x-rated movies and they give money to the arts to make them too. Change the props " annoying props (whistles, balloons, etc.). " and the costumes or lack there if (if you do not count handcuffs or what ever they use) and I guess you have mimes. Wonder what their (the x-rated movies) message is? I will take the mimes. Laura oh yes, documentation the Clintons support of this art form is in the Archives. Personally, I like France. -Original Message- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- lol Carlene, I appreciate your interest in my take on the French "culture". I must confess, I have no hard evidence to support the statement that the buttocks of the average Frenchman are indeed physically capable of playing any bellows-driven instrument. Okay...when you find some documentation on this let me know. However, I can attest that wherever you walk on the cruddy streets of Paris, you CONSTANTLY hear that goddamn accordion music playing. Wait a second why is it god@@@ accordian music up here in Wisconsin we have that for our polkas, is
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 5:18:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time. Mustn't upset the right-wing freaks by exposing their hypocrisy. On the local TV news, it was stated that Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife while he was still married to his second wife. There was also some he said/she said regarding the abortion. Regarding another self righteous but unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels along the Mexican border. One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs. Let's hope, the elites are not able to continue the news block. If I'm remembering correctly, Libby Dole's marriage to Bob was also pressaged by similar behavior. No one seems to mind if you're a Republican. Pudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 8:01:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got better things to do with my time than watch that sleazeball. I believe you control the remote in your house. No one is trying to tell you who or what to watch. I'd really appreciate it if the media (and their corporate friends) would stop telling me who or what I may watch. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- #8 for the 12th -- : Subject: Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly : Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 5:43 PM : : According to the World Almanac Book of Facts for 1998, p. 378, review of : the 1990 census, it's more like 6.66 / 1 (W = 199.7 million; B = 30.0 : million)(right about in the middle of what the article and you each : maintain for your respective ratios). This is not my issue. As far as I'm : concerned, we're all "Americans" and I so indicate whenever I'm queried : about my background: i.e., I select "other" then enter "American". I'm : not in that part of the census; to clarify, I'm in probably in "Other" (the : default miscellaneous catchall category), numbering almost 9.9 million. : Yet, does one population determine another (by 'population', I mean it : statistically, indicating number of structures or humans or beans or blades : of grass)? Can we extrapolate structures from census data? I won't : automatically assume so given I'm not an expert in that area (but it would : be interesting to research). : : My issue is selectively analysing data in order to arrive at a conclusion : the data really doesn't support. This lends to skewing the issue : (whatever) using skewed data. Further, a disproportionate amount of $$$, : time, effort, whathaveyou, gets allocated to a programme at the expense of : other (similar) programmes equally deserving. The problem arises when : someone decides what policy/politics will inflate headlines, performance : reports, local business revenues, polls, whathaveyou. I would much more : favour a traveling building group that combines with local volunteers and : as Americans, build what they need to build -- kinda like "Habitat for : Humanity" (as I understand it). So, when people learn that they aren't : going to win any contests by having sufficiently raised the ire of one : group or another, the problems just may stop. Any when they catch the : perpetrators, turn 'em over to the law -- which should be augmented by : citizens (a la "Neighbourhood Watch", e.g., program). When citizens in, : of, for communities exhibit a communal sense of responsibility for EACH : OTHER, I would guess all kinds of crime would drop -- without yielding said : responsibility to uniformed paramilitary types at $25 - ? thousand a year : per pop. : : If there is any governmental support for ANY reason, it should be equitably : distributed for the affected. What I get out of the articles is a desire : to brand a certain crime as being something other (maybe the same but : narrowly focused and therefore the only thing in focus) than it really was : -- generally; there may be some specific cases where the branding is : accurate. Am I more likely to assume I was robbed because I am *moneyed* : or because I happened to be in my wrong place at the robber's right time? : Was I a *target* because of my status or because of some plain old random : circumstance (i.e., I was available)? Of course, professional crooks have : always looked for the easiest mark to hit to minimise the hassle and : maximise the return. Do I require more protection than someone else : because I look, act, whatever, like a *target*? Again, when society : becomes equally everyone's business, then I shouldn't have to worry. Take : out the weeds and leave the flowers to do their thing, the roses and the : petunias and the bulbs and the whatevers getting what they each need with : respect to their equal, noncompetitive, desirability. : : : AER : : The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking : new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust : + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + : Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed : + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + : In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material : is distributed without charge or profit to those who have : expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information : for non-profit research and educational purposes only. : : -- : : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Subject: Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly : : Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:15 PM : : : : -Caveat Lector- : : : : In a message dated 1/12/1999 5:03:45 PM, you wrote: : : : : -Caveat Lector- : : : : The report allegedly says, "'We recognize ... that white churches are : burning : : nearly five times as often as black churches.'" : : : : But white people out number Black people *8 to 1*. : : : : More Black churches are being burned, proportionately. : : : : : : : : Best, : : : : : : HA : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- We were having fun. Accent on the WERE. Now as far as Carlene getting pissed because she can not use the Bible as her citation source everytime. I can imagine what she thought when assigned a English exam. Also as far as Hawk accusing everyone of telling him he is a Liar, because evidently his version of history is the gold plated one. I personally am getting tired of you children - grow up. Laura AKA The Pied Piper -Original Message- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Thank you Jeremy for that refreshing conversation we had..maybe it made a few others smile as well. Take care and don't let anyone get you out of that good mood you are in..isn't worth it, You see if you did you would be playing right into a conspiracy of that person or parties...to make you grumpy just like them... Carlene "Brown, Jeremy" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Jerry, Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont! Who do you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't? Like you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few goofy e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking personal shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG It's people like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one of those people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some kids smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let me give you a little SAT lingo - You are to fun as water is to fire. L I G H T E N U P, you'll live longer. -- From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a different sense of perspective. Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and silly to the mature and refined. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the
[CTRL] Mark Twain and Anti-Imperialism 1898-1935
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[CTRL] NSA Bans Furbies
-Caveat Lector- Spy Agency Bans Furbys As Threat WASHINGTON (AP) -- First, they foiled thousands of weary parents, desperately scouring store shelves to buy their kids ``the'' holiday toy. Now, the five-inch plush gremlin-like creatures are wanted again, this time by the nation's supersecret spy agency: Furbys could pose the latest threat to national security interests. The National Security Agency has banned the popular pets from its Fort Meade premises in Maryland. In an internal message to workers, the NSA issued a warning about the toy, which is embedded with a computer chip that allows it to utters 200 words -- 100 in English and 100 in ``Furbish.'' ``Personally owned photographic, video and audio recording equipment are prohibited items. This includes toys, such as 'Furbys,' with built-in recorders that repeat the audio with synthesized sound to mimic the original signal,'' the Furby Alert read, according to Wednesday's editions of The Washington Post. ``We are prohibited from introducing these items into NSA spaces. Those who have should contact their Staff Security Office for guidance.'' The Furby resembles an owl, with tufts of hair between its huge pink ears. Because of its ability to repeat some of what it hears, NSA officials were worried ``that people would take them home and they'd start talking classified,'' one Capitol Hill source told the Post. AP-NY-01-12-99 2352EST Copyright © Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Home | Top of Page 01/12 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Yes, it is true, the Brokaw book, The Greatest Generation is a tribute by the Ruling Elite to the hapless generation of dupes that spilt the blood and made the sacrifices to make many of the Ruling Elite's dreams come true. While it is true that this generation has exhibited an unshakable and deplorable fatalism, especially in the last few decades, (never has so many done so little with so much!) -- and yet, there is still something admirable in the discipline and self-sacrifice of this generation. If our generation (25-50 or so) could combine an equal discipline and spirit of self-sacrifice to the greatly increased critical thinking that is now extant -- we would have something. Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hawk Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 1:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools! -Caveat Lector- Lloyd Miller wrote: -Caveat Lector- Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest Generation. What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI! Dispatching Nazi and Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese totalitarianism. A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure! Hey I like what you say tell us more! Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- I think we should all mellow out. What's with the "accent on the WERE" stuff? Personally, fun for me is NEVER in the past tense. I invite everyone to lighten up, come down off your pedestals and soapboxes and enjoy life. Truthfully, I found (and continue to find) it very gratifying that this list actually had people who were willing to respond to my silliness in kind (with certain exceptions). And it even gave rise to a rather interesting discussion! SO let's just be happy with that and move on to the next hour of the party, folks! Jeremy P.S. Mime still sucks ass. -- From: L. Shipton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- We were having fun. Accent on the WERE. Now as far as Carlene getting pissed because she can not use the Bible as her citation source everytime. I can imagine what she thought when assigned a English exam. Also as far as Hawk accusing everyone of telling him he is a Liar, because evidently his version of history is the gold plated one. I personally am getting tired of you children - grow up. Laura AKA The Pied Piper -Original Message- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Thank you Jeremy for that refreshing conversation we had..maybe it made a few others smile as well. Take care and don't let anyone get you out of that good mood you are in..isn't worth it, You see if you did you would be playing right into a conspiracy of that person or parties...to make you grumpy just like them... Carlene "Brown, Jeremy" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Jerry, Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont! Who do you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't? Like you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few goofy e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking personal shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG It's people like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one of those people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some kids smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let me give you a little SAT lingo - You are to fun as water is to fire. L I G H T E N U P, you'll live longer. -- From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a different sense of perspective. Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and silly to the mature and refined. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Lloyd, While I can apprecitate that your point of view need mot be the same as everyone's, I must disagree. Perhaps they were pawns in a greater scheme (or perhaps not), but they most certainly WERE NOT spineless. Would you have had the courage to set foor on Omaha Beach, knowing that there was an almost 100% chance that you would be cut down instantly? These men and women paid the greatest price in the interest of democracy. Don't spit on their graves by calling them spineless. JB -- From: Lloyd Miller[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 8:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools! -Caveat Lector- Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest Generation. What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI! Dispatching Nazi and Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese totalitarianism. A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure! *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Video Finder, Free Catalogs, Links, Sweepstakes, What-Not: http://www.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- Mark, I applaud your bravery in what was certainly a most dire situation. I too have been working with a fifth column group dedicated to the overthrowing of the mime culture. My contact goes by the name of Popo the Mime and has been seen walking in the winf at the fountain at Lincolin Center and riding a unicycle outside the Delacourte theater. He has detailed for me some of the inner workings of the group. A plan to overtake the world that is almost too insidious to describe. It will begin with strategically placed mimes performing for prominent members of world socitey (artists, authors, politicians). During their performance, they will ask slected members of the audience to smell the flower they have attatched to their lapels or suspenders. The flower will then release a blast of neurotoxin that will permanently freeze the vocal cords, thereby making the only possible form of communicationMIME! -- From: MARK[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- I've just returned from working undercover at the "Parisien Mime Expo' 99" held, oddly enough, in Lyon. It was a very quiet affair, with only a few coughs, farts and burps breaking the silence. However, the audience was held in rapture as Secretary General for the International Mime Federation - Jean Baptiste Hufflinger, demonstrated to the amusement of the gathering, how he would feel the walls if he were imprisoned in an invisible cage. The group found this hilarious. Next he showed how to walk against an imaginary strong wind - again, uproarious silent laughter from the audience. Lunch consisted of invisible sandwiches being eaten from invisible plates, whilst opening imaginary bottles to drink from. The dress code was a black and white striped top, black trousers, white gloves, white face-paint and a bowler hat with a flower sticking from it. After lunch, Presidente Henri Denieux held our interest when, as suspected, he detailed plans for Global Domination by the Mime culture. He mimed that their terrorist group - Mimists Overthrowing Rest Of Normality (M.O.R.O.N.) have already had great success with new recruits in Shopping Centres, Fairs, Street Corners, Birthday Parties and Schools. He was just about to reveal the next stage of his plan, when my white face paint began to run, and I was noticed for the undercover agent that I am. I had to make a hasty retreat, and escape from hundreds of Mimists who were all running on the spot trying to get to me. I am now back in my native UK, and beg you all to rise up and stop the menace of the Mimist and MORONs. Rise now, before it is too late. -Original Message- From: Brown, Jeremy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 January 1999 20:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Laura, You raise an interesting point. However, I must argue that the comparison of mime to x-rated movies doesn't hold much water. I admit to being a little confused by this approach. How did you reach this conclusion? If I want to see a film of that type, I have to get in my car, drive to a video store, walk behind the groovy beaded curtain and pay for my selection. It is a conscious decision on my part. However, a mime just comes up to you without your consent or invitation and assaults your senses with a barrage of cheap laughs and minimalist entertainment. As for the message, an x-rated film's is pretty simple. "Get your rocks off cheap!". A mime has no message. He or she is just a talentless hack who's foisting off a dying art form on you in hopes of procuring spare change. In addition, from a sociological point of view, mimes don't have a leg to stand on against x-rated entertainment. The reason being, is that if you lined up a group of people outside of two rooms, and behind one door was a screening room showing a "blue movie", and behind the other door was a mime, I would be willing to bet that room #2 would be stark empty! Not that I'm endorsing x-rated entertainment per say, but you and I know human nature well enough to agree that most people (men and women) would take nudity and sex over some creep on a unicycle. That is quite interesting about the Clintons. Although it doesn't really surprise me. Take care, Jeremy -- From: L. Shipton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Hey this sounds like what they pass off as Art in Washington. Hillary backs x-rated movies and they give money to the arts to make
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- We were having fun. Accent on the WERE. Now as far as Carlene getting pissed because she can not use the Bible as her citation source everytime. I don't quote the Bible, used to know it fairly well, but I don't quote it, you must be thinking about something else. and for references I did take it to heart, but I noticed others weren't. I was not pI@@ed ...thought it interesting that others weren't quoting sources. Sorry I offended you...just having fun. It is nice to see people on the list with a sense of humor instead of being serious all of the time. a English exam. Did quite well I am a he## of a researcher and writer. Also as far as Hawk accusing everyone of telling him he is a Liar, because evidently his version of history is the gold plated one. I think he is the one who quotes the Bible...which is good, wish I could. I personally am getting tired of you children - grow up. Huh ??? Growing up means growing old...and I don't want to get there. You see you can be young physically, but depending on your attitude you can be your age, or a lot, lot older. I know younger people going on 90just because of their attitude...sorry rather have some humor in my life. Carlene Laura AKA The Pied Piper -Original Message- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Thank you Jeremy for that refreshing conversation we had..maybe it made a few others smile as well. Take care and don't let anyone get you out of that good mood you are in..isn't worth it, You see if you did you would be playing right into a conspiracy of that person or parties...to make you grumpy just like them... Carlene "Brown, Jeremy" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Jerry, Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont! Who do you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't? Like you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few goofy e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking personal shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG It's people like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one of those people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some kids smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let me give you a little SAT lingo - You are to fun as water is to fire. L I G H T E N U P, you'll live longer. -- From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a different sense of perspective. Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and silly to the mature and refined. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Mark Twain and Anti-Imperialism 1898-1935
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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- Well said, Carlene. It gave me a warm feeling inside. The kind of feeling you get when you realize that it's your life's goal to be a celebrity lookalike of Alan Hale. -- From: Carlene M. Wojahn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- We were having fun. Accent on the WERE. Now as far as Carlene getting pissed because she can not use the Bible as her citation source everytime. I don't quote the Bible, used to know it fairly well, but I don't quote it, you must be thinking about something else. and for references I did take it to heart, but I noticed others weren't. I was not pI@@ed ...thought it interesting that others weren't quoting sources. Sorry I offended you...just having fun. It is nice to see people on the list with a sense of humor instead of being serious all of the time. a English exam. Did quite well I am a he## of a researcher and writer. Also as far as Hawk accusing everyone of telling him he is a Liar, because evidently his version of history is the gold plated one. I think he is the one who quotes the Bible...which is good, wish I could. I personally am getting tired of you children - grow up. Huh ??? Growing up means growing old...and I don't want to get there. You see you can be young physically, but depending on your attitude you can be your age, or a lot, lot older. I know younger people going on 90just because of their attitude...sorry rather have some humor in my life. Carlene Laura AKA The Pied Piper -Original Message- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Thank you Jeremy for that refreshing conversation we had..maybe it made a few others smile as well. Take care and don't let anyone get you out of that good mood you are in..isn't worth it, You see if you did you would be playing right into a conspiracy of that person or parties...to make you grumpy just like them... Carlene "Brown, Jeremy" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Jerry, Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont! Who do you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't? Like you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few goofy e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking personal shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG It's people like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one of those people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some kids smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let me give you a little SAT lingo - You are to fun as water is to fire. L I G H T E N U P, you'll live longer. -- From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a different sense of perspective. Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and silly to the mature and refined. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
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-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Spy Toys NSA Declares Furbys a Security Threat However, they fall apart under interrogation Move over, Aldrich Ames. The National Security Agency has targeted a new national security threat capable of blabbing secrets to U.S. adversaries: the Furby. As harried parents scrambled in the weeks before Christmas to get their hands on these homely, high-tech cyberpets that supposedly repeat what they hear, the supersecret spy agency put out a "Furby Alert" on its internal intranet in early December and banned the Furby from Fort Meade. "Personally owned photographic, video and audio recording equipment are prohibited items. This includes toys, such as 'Furbys,' with built-in recorders that repeat the audio with synthesized sound to mimic the original signal," the Furby Alert warned NSA workers. "We are prohibited from introducing these items into NSA spaces. Those who have should contact their Staff Security Officer for guidance." What the punishment is for having a Furby on your desk at Fort Meade or how many Furbys actually are infesting NSA could not be immediately discerned. But with all transgressors under orders to turn themselves in, former NSA general counsel Stewart Baker speculated that "getting them [the Furbys] out is going to be almost harder than getting them in." "You'd have to take them to the basement," Baker deadpanned, "and sweat them a lot." Equipped with computer chips and the same kind of infrared transmitters and receivers found in TV remote controls, these $29.99 wonders (sometimes going for much more) speak, sleep, make weird noises and supposedly interact with their environment, repeating some of what they hear. It's hard to imagine them divulging state secrets, but who knows more about pulling in what it hears than the NSA, which intercepts electronic communications around the world using satellites and other highly classified means. NSA officials were worried, said one Capitol Hill source monitoring the intelligence community, "that people would take them home and they'd start talking classified." Steven Aftergood, who directs the Federation of American Scientists' project on government secrecy, said he wasn't surprised that the NSA, which is nothing if not bureaucratic and secretive, had drawn the line on Furby. "They can't simply say, 'Be smart, don't do anything to compromise security,' " Aftergood said. "There has to be a page in the security manual that says, 'No dolls with tape recorders.' " The Washington Post, Jan. 13, 1999 Impeached POTUS Clinton Pays Paula Jones $850,000 Hillary's cash balance falls WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Clinton mailed a check for $850,000 to Paula Jones on Tuesday to settle her sexual harassment allegations, officially ending the sensational legal battle that cast his presidency into crisis. In the week his Senate impeachment trial was to resume, the president drew about $375,000 from his and Hillary Rodham Clinton's personal funds and got the rest of the settlement, about $475,000, from an insurance policy, a White House official told The Associated Press. ``This ends it. The check is being Fed-Exed'' to Bill McMillan, one of Mrs. Jones' lawyers, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The official said the personal funds were drawn from the Clintons' blind trust, which was valued in their financial disclosure statement at between $1 million and about $5 million. None of the money was drawn from his legal defense fund, which raises money from private citizens to defray his legal bills, the official said. Still unclear is how much money from the check will make it into Mrs. Jones' bank account. As the settlement was reached in November, Mrs. Jones still faced an outstanding claim by Joseph Cammarata and Gilbert Davis, the two lawyers who quit her case last year and filed an $800,000 lien against any settlement in order to collect legal fees. ``I don't think it's been decided yet'' how much Mrs. Jones will receive, said her friend and adviser, Susan Carpenter McMillan. ``We did hear they are sending out the check. We hope to receive it soon,'' Carpenter McMillan said. While the check ends the litigation, the fallout from the controversy still haunts the president. Mrs. Jones' lawsuit brought to light the president's affair with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky and set in motion a criminal investigation that resulted in a historic House vote last month to impeach Clinton. The president files his trial brief on Wednesday, and House prosecutors on Thursday will begin presenting to the Senate their case that the president obstructed justice in the Jones lawsuit and lied about it before a federal grand jury. Clinton reached a settlement with Mrs. Jones on Nov. 13 after four years of litigation. Under that settlement, Clinton didn't admit any wrongdoing or apologize and
Re: [CTRL] Democracy Spawns Conspiracy Theories
-Caveat Lector- Democracy Spawns Conspiracy Theories by Alfred Adask Snip Remember Jonestown in British Guyana? Led by Pastor Jim Jones, several hundred men, women and children voluntarily consumed cyanide-laced Koolade[sic] and died. Clearly, their faith in God was overcome by a belief in conspiracies. He's not up on his latest conspiracy info on this one. Gavin. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mark Twain and Anti-Imperialism 1898-1935
*referring to signature line Under Education Helps Strange Search - http://stange.simplenet.com/search/ then use http://www.askjeeves.com/ under newest hopefuls and just in case you are referring to me - I suggest you ask how to allow someone to keep their ego. or Constructive Criticism If you are actually interested in the subject (dyslexia) these will allow you to research and I also have to Med. links on My site that I will dig out for you if asked. The site is cut and paste so that it is capable of being printed with the links showing, am in the process of doing it as a database as well. Laura AKA The Pied Piper -Original Message-From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:02 AMSubject: Re: [CTRL] Mark Twain and Anti-Imperialism 1898-1935Cool !! Love your site...didn't noticed but did you have anything on dyslexia...impressive. Carlene L. Shipton wrote: http://home.ican.net/~fjzwick/twain/ Edited by Jim Zwick Copyright 1995-1999 Jim Zwick Mark Twain on the Philippineshttp://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm 1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International 5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215 Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store. (anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartame VISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs Cases VISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business! GIF image
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- At 07:52 AM 1/13/99 -0500, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 5:18:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time. Mustn't upset the right-wing freaks by exposing their hypocrisy. On the local TV news, it was stated that Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife while he was still married to his second wife. There was also some he said/she said regarding the abortion. Regarding another self righteous but unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels along the Mexican border. One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs. Let's hope, the elites are not able to continue the news block. If I'm remembering correctly, Libby Dole's marriage to Bob was also pressaged by similar behavior. No one seems to mind if you're a Republican. Pudy Except if you're Bob Packwood. Remember the feminist Senators screaming "apologies are not enough"!!?! Barb DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mark Twain and Anti-Imperialism 1898-1935
-Caveat Lector- Yes, I am thanks, my daughter is...and I have run into quite a few students that have this problem,...however it is not noticed/diagnosed properly and they end up in ED rooms. Again...thanks. "L. Shipton" wrote: *referring to signature line"Under "Education Helps" Strange Search - http://stange.simplenet.com/search/then use http://www.askjeeves.com/ under newest hopefulsand just in case you are referring to me - I suggest you ask "how to allow someone to keep their ego." or "Constructive Criticism" If you are actually interested in the subject (dyslexia) these will allow you to research and I also have to Med. links on My site that I will dig out for you if asked. The site is cut and paste so that it is capable of being printed with the links showing, am in the process of doing it as a database as well.LauraAKA The Pied Piper -Original Message- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mark Twain and Anti-Imperialism 1898-1935 Cool !! Love your site...didn't noticed but did you have anything on dyslexia...impressive. Carlene "L. Shipton" wrote: http://home.ican.net/~fjzwick/twain/ Edited by [Anti-Imperialism in the United States, 1898-1935]Jim Zwick Copyright © 1995-1999 Jim Zwick Mark Twain on the Philippines http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm 1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International 5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store. (anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartame VISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs Cases VISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Stampeding Bison
-Caveat Lector- For readings on Blacks that owned slaves see these resources. We have a book by Gary Mills, who a professor at Univ. of Alabama, "The Forgotten People," which is about Creoles of Color in Louisiana who owned slaves. It sells for $14.95, postpaid. "Black Slave owners" about Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860. It sells for $19.95, postpaid. So check out those books, those are approximate costs for the books. Another one to check out is Virginia's Attitude Toward Slavery and Secession by Beverly B. Munford, 1915. Noby the way you said the blacks could go northI did some checking because I knew better. I have written a book about this area and blacks were not allowed in many villages/cities around here. Also I checked around with a reenacting friend of mine from Ohio This is the e-mail sent and the reply received. " Now I need to find laws that prevented the blacks from going north...some states would not allow them in...please help me with this. Carlene The most blatant was Illinois'. In 1861 they passed a law making it illegal for a black person to be in the state. In 1862 they made it a part of their state constitution. Massachusetts: No law against slavery was ever passed by her legislature, and in that sense, the right to hold slaves may be said to have existed, until it was extinguished by adoption of the "constitutional amendment" in 1866. In 1840 (U.S. census) there were 40 slaves in Pennsylvania. New Jersey had 236 slaves for life in the 1850 census. In March 1788, Massachusetts passed a law ordering every black, mulatto, or Indian who came into the state and remained two months to be publickly whipped, and this punishmentwas to be repeated "if he or she shall not depart "toties quoties." This law remained in force until 1834. (Moore, History of Slavery in Mass., p. 229) There was also discussion on the KKK, well it is alive and well up north here. Keep your eye on Wisconsin on Martin Luther King's DayI think we are in for trouble. An article appeared in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel today. "The KKK will call of its Saturday rally at the state capitol if Gov Thompson admits he was wrong to originally deny the group a permit for the demonstration a leader said Monday. But a spokesman for the governor said Thompson wouldn't go along with that request. Wanting to prevent the vilence that could occur between the Klan and the counter demonstators Mike McQueeney, the Grand Dragon for Wisconsin, called on Thompson to publicly recognize the group has free speech and assembly rights too. If the governor does, he said the group would cancel its rally. Otherwise it will go forward as scheduled. "If one person gets hurt on the Capitol steps--I don't care if it's a negro, a jew, or a homosexual or a neo-Nazi--it will be on Tommy Thompson hands" McQueenely said Monday from his home in Mercer, Wis. "We'll cancel the rally it he admits by noon Wed. that he was wrong, Otherwise we will be sure to be there on Saturday. Madison is not ready for the Klan, and we don't want anyone in the state of Wis. to get hurt. We're not into violence, we're nonviolent. I can see something like this is going to lead to a confrontation and someone has to put a stop to it. I can stop it." A federal judge last week overturned the states decision to deny the group a permit for the event. U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb ruled Thompson could not deny the Klan's right to assemble and speck just because previous rallies held elsewhere became violent. The state had argued in court that the Klan used earlier rallies in Janesville and Beloit to incite violence. In December of 1997 rally in Beloit, nine people were arrested for fighting and 400 anti-Klan protestors showed up to challenge 18 Klan members. The Klan has schedule the rally for two days before Martin lutherKing Day to protest the holiday that honors him. State officials initially denied there quest because of safety concerns. After Crabbs ruling Thompson said he would not appeal the decision and would instruct Capitol police to make security preparations for the rally. Nearly 500 law enforcement officers will be available for the rally which could draw 100 Klan members and 2000 counter demonstartors..and it goes on a bit more...but you get the jist. BTW the first KKK was disbanded, and the first one served a purpose, a purpose which is less in severity than it is today...but the Klan is in other states...northern ones...and many northern states forbade the blacks to settle in their state Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used
Re: [CTRL] Olympic$$$
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/13/99 9:06:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of the cash payments and other benefits have been confirmed by the recipients. Jean-Claude Ganga, the IOC member from the Congo Republic, admitted receiving $70,000 in direct payments, as well as free medical care and a favorable position in a Utah real estate deal, which netted him $60,000. Ganga described such arrangements as "normal." Isn't it funny? Jim Thorp was stripped of his medals for being paid about twenty bucks for playing baseball. But it is normal (and I'm sure it is) for financial payoffs for the OIC, and multi-millionaire Michael Jordan takes a little time out and plays Olympic basketball. His multi-millions came from the very sport he was playing for the Olympics. Does anyone know if Thorp was ever given his medals back? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NSA Bans Furbies
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/13/99 8:55:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, the five-inch plush gremlin-like creatures are wanted again, this time by the nation's supersecret spy agency: Furbys could pose the latest threat to national security interests. This is really sad. I think national security is threatened when only the elite have access to such things. We might as well ban parrots. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Heroes and Villains
-Caveat Lector- Heroes and villains Clinton awarded medal to the wrong man By David M. Bresnahan © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com A disabled volunteer risked his own life to save the lives of others during the terrible Midwest flooding of 1993 only to find that someone else would receive the recognition and award from President Clinton. On July 21, 1993, Merl E. Johnston, 43, was getting his small boat ready to help his brother salvage belongings from his flooded house. The Solomon River, just south of Bennington, Kansas, was far over its banks. Sheriff Ken White and the Ottawa County Rescue Squad were trying to save a young girl trapped on a telephone pole in the flood. They were unable to rescue her. Johnston was in the area and went to their aid. With no thought for his personal safety, Johnston was able to get the frightened girl in his small boat and bring her to safety. "I realized they weren't going to get her out the way they were going," explained Johnston, "so I pulled my boat sideways and let the current wedge the boat against the telephone pole. While holding the boat in position with one arm, I reached down with the other and managed to pull her into my boat." The sheriff refused to get in the boat, but Johnston made sure the rescue squad could get to him before he left with the girl. Once the girl was safe, Johnston hurried off to help his brother. The fire department had brought some sand bags to help protect the house when a call came about some men trapped in the flooded river. Johnston quickly volunteered his services again. He and a firefighter took his boat back to the same area where he had rescued the girl. "There were three men in the back of a pickup truck that had washed off the road," Johnston told WorldNetDaily. "We had a little trouble getting to them because of all of the stuff in the water and a fence." The unselfish efforts of Johnston resulted in another safe rescue. Even after he got them safely to a farm house, he stood waist deep in the water to direct a rescue crew to the proper location in the dark. Johnston was not looking for attention, nor did he consider himself a hero because of his valiant efforts. After each of the rescues he just continued finding other ways to help people in distress. The only reason he became concerned was because of the deception he perceived when he learned that Sheriff White would receive a presidential award for the rescue Johnston performed. Prior to the awarding of the medal, Johnston tried to make known to everyone involved that there was an error. He was ignored. Former Kansas Gov. Joan Finney, a Democrat, was informed of the mistake, but she ignored Johnston and provided Sheriff White, a Democrat, with her private plane to go to St. Louis for the ceremony. Shortly after the flood, President Clinton arrived in St. Louis to hand out medals. Sheriff White was held up as a hero on national television while Johnston was ignored. Johnston claims he didn't fit the political plans of the day. It was at that time that Clinton was pushing his plan for thousands of new police officers, and giving an award to a sheriff gave him an opportunity to push that plan, according to Johnston. He provided video tapes of the rescue, taken by the sheriff's men, to prove his claim. When even that was ignored he realized there was purposeful deception, not just a mistake. Johnston decided to complain. He sent several letters to Clinton asking for a correction of the error. Johnston was a civilian employee of the Army. He asked the Army to argue his case, but no one wanted a political problem. Nearly a year later, Johnston found the results of his efforts to expose the deception. "I came into work, opened the janitor's closet, and there was my medal. It was lying on a shelf with a note attached," he described. "Mr. Johnston: Here is your medal," read the note. He was given the Department of Army, Civilian Award for Humanitarian Service medal instead of the Presidential recognition award. A short time later Johnston's 15 years as a federal employee came to an end. He says he was fired because of his certified letters to Clinton. His disability prevented him from obtaining other work, and government red tape delayed his disability pension for a year while he nearly lost everything he had. "I know from personal experience that President Bill Clinton is a phony," said Johnston. David M. Bresnahan, a contributing editor for WorldNetDaily.com, is the author of "Cover Up: The Art and Science of Political Deception," and offers a monthly newsletter "Talk USA Investigative Reports." He may be reached through email and also maintains a website. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 8:48:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, lloyd@A- ALBIONIC.COM writes: What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII Wow, that mean old FDR was pretty tricky OK. Imagine how he suckered the Japanese to invade Singapore, Indonesia, Indochina, Burma etc. Did Roosevelt also trick the Japanese into invading Manchuria in 1931? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 7:24:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- An apologist for slavery and . . . You may think what you want, but do you realize your rationalzations are inhumane. No I don't... As a matter of fact, if you could read (and understand what you read), I have repeatedly said that I do not advocate the enslavement of anyone. I do not personally approve of slavery. Seems you would finally get that through your head. Gee, Hawk, thanks for your condescending attitude. I am sure you are ready to listen. 1. Oh, you don't PERSONALLY approve of slavery. Well, I guess that makes you a good person(PC) or do you have someother reason for you letting us know that you don't PERSONALLY approve of slavery. Have you ever heard of the word hypocrite? hyp-o-crite (h p2õ-kr t1) n. A person given to hypocrisy. hy-poc-ri-sy (h -pÄk2r -sT) n., pl. hy-poc-ri-sies. 1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. 2. An act or instance of such falseness. from: A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9901aL=ctrlD=0O=A P=67326"CTRL archives -- January 1999, week 1 (#625)/A Hawk sez: I do not say that "owning a human being is a humane idea" -- but neither is it an inhumane act. - in-hu-mane ( n1hyá-mEn2) adj. Lacking pity or compassion. in-hu-man-i-ty ( n1hyá-man2 -tT) n., 1. Lack of pity or compassion. 2. An inhuman or cruel act. a-pol-o-gy (õ-pÄl2õ-jT) n., 2.a. A formal justification or defense. b. An explanation or excuse. a-pol-gist n. 1. One who argues in defense of any person or cause. slav-er-y (slE2võ-rT, slEv2rT) n., 1. The state of one bound in servitude as the property of a slaveholder or household. 2.a. The practice of owning slaves. b. A mode of production in which slaves constitute the principal work force. ra-tion-al-i-za-tion (rash1õ-nõ-l -zE2shõn) n. 2. An instance of rationalizing. ra-tion-al-ize (rash2õ-nõ-lhz1) v. r 3. To devise self-satisfying but incorrect reasons for (one's behavior). from: A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9901aL=ctrlD=0O=A P=67326"CTRL archives -- January 1999, week 1 (#625)/A Hawk sez: I personally do not wish to own a slave nor be a slave. - Gosh, again, how noble. Gee, you wouldn't wish to be a slave. But by your vaunted interpretation of scribblings you give PROVIDENTIAL AUTHORITY to the actions of slaveholding. Which I will stand-up again, and again and say -you are wrong. === Your contention that owning people, because of interpretations of scripture, is a valid human endeavour is ill-founded. A "valid endeaver?" Of course its a "valid endeavor." Murder is a "valid endeavor," if it accomplishes the perpetrator's goal. That doesn't make it a "desirable" activity in which to engage one's self. So you say that owning humans is a "valid endevor" val-id (val2 d) adj. 1. Well grounded; just. 2. Producing the desired results; efficacious. 3. Having legal force; effective or binding. 4. Logic. a. Containing premises from which the conclusion may logically be derived. b. Correctly inferred or deduced from a premise. 5. Archaic. Of sound health; robust. en-deav-or (Rn-dRv2õr) n. 1. A conscientious or concerted effort toward an end; an earnest attempt. 2. Purposeful or industrious activity; enterprise. ear-nest1 (ûr2n st) adj. 1. Marked by or showing deep sincerity or seriousness. 2. Of an important or weighty nature; grave. Again, you are a hypocrite. In "desirable' to you mean worth doing, advisable or is it wrong to do? == Slavery is wrong, is known by the fact of the actions of slavery, not by any vaunted scribblings. Is it "wrong" because YOU say its wrong? Or because an amendment to the Constitution says its wrong? What makes an action "wrong?" Your bemuddled "logic" -- if such it could be called -- is "X (and action) is wrong because the action of X is wrong." I fear you'll have to improve before your "argument" is convincing to anyone who can string a group of words together and form a logical statement. == Thanks again for mocking my syntax. I am so sorry that you have a problem understanding it. I was paraprhasing some wise words from a wise man. 'By the fruits, ye shall know the tree" Slavery is wrong from the actions of slavery. Simple. Now, some words from "Hypocrite hawk" from: A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9901aL=ctrlD=0O=A P=67326"CTRL archives -- January 1999, week 1 (#625)/A That is merely your opinion, and it does not comport with the Bible. You are welcome to it, and you are certainly not alone in that opinion. But I base my criteria on "stronger stuff" than personal opinion. I would have to reject slavery,
[CTRL] King Clinton Rules by Decree
-Caveat Lector- No need to send the Treaty to the Senate for ratification or abide by the Constitution when you are an aspiring dictator-the only thing you have to do is see how much you can get away with before somebody questions the legality of a particular "law" you want to pass. It seems as if our "elected" officials have given Bill carte blanche. Gavin. http://www.devvy.com/trackside1.html#SOFC TRACKSIDE (c) by John D'Aloia Jr. The page one headline might read "Congress Fiddles While Constitution Burns;" the sports page headline might be "Clinton Scores on End-Around." Taking advantage of the natural limits on how many different topics people can keep track of at once, and of the lack of Congressional leadership, President Clinton has initiated another grab for control over society. How? On November 12, the United States signed the Kyoto Climate Control Treaty. Nothing wrong with signing a treaty - it is a presidential prerogative. What is wrong is that without sending the treaty to the Senate for ratification, the President has begun its implementation. His action contemptuously ignores the Constitution, a unanimous Senate resolution that condemned the treaty as drafted (the treaty is based on junk-science; the treaty's provisions force economic misery on this country,) and laws enacted which prohibit spending any money on implementing it. While Congress's attention is fixated on the impeachment inquiry regarding his admitted perjury, the President is usurping Congress's duties and is, in effect, ruling by decree. Meanwhile, our elected representatives go to great lengths to don blinders, refusing to consider all the ways in which President Clinton has abused the power of his office and has shredded the Constitution. I can understand the socialists in Congress not wanting to affirm that the Constitution limits the power of the President. An all-powerful presidency fits nicely into their dreams of absolute power. The Republicans, on the other hand, if they really believed their campaign rhetoric calling for a return to a constitutional government, should be yelling to the high heavens - but, with limited exceptions, they are not. Why? Could it be that they also do not want to curtail the President's actions because if they should get hold of the office, they want the same power? And how is the President implementing the Kyoto Treaty, a treaty that imposes significant costs on American society? Easy. Dollars are being handed out to the alphabet-soup agencies for projects that further the treaty's goal. Private companies can be forced to implement treaty dictates as provisions of settlement agreements in environmental lawsuits or as provisions of environmental permits. Another way is to invoke the Law of Unintended Consequences and stretch existing laws beyond the intent of the authors. The control of carbon dioxide emissions, a natural result of the burning of fossil fuels, is a central feature of the Kyoto Treaty. Carbon dioxide is not now classified as a hazardous air pollutant. Already, EPA has started talking about classifying it, and controlling it, as a hazardous air pollutant under the Clean Air Act, thus carrying out the intent of the Kyoto Treaty. By controlling carbon dioxide emissions, the statists gain control over society, the economy, and our nation's standard of living. As noted before, this line of thinking, carried to the extreme reaches of the bureaucratic mind, will result in requiring everyone to have a breathing permit, for we all, with every breath, emit carbon dioxide. And taking it even further, such permits could become the population control measure of some "1984" future society. You cannot have more than one child; two will produce too much carbon dioxide. Is the administration concerned about the laws that prohibit any dollars being spent on implementing the treaty? Of course not - the laws are blithely ignored with the firm knowledge that Congress has not the backbone to call them on it and that very few people have the resources to turn to the courts to stop the President from doing whatever he wants. And sadly, Khrushchev's words about the U.S. selling the rope to hang itself have come into play. In spite of the President's refusal to submit the treaty for ratification and the laws against funding treaty implication, Congressional leadership caved in to the President at the end of the last session and gave him $200 million of your tax dollars to fund the World Bank's Global Environmental Facility. The GEF is nothing more than a dark green slush fund which channels dollars to radical environmental groups the world over, and is used, as is so common with such organizations, to lobby government for more dollars and more power. Bribery is another use of the fund. Argentine officials report that the administration is offering them assistance from the fund in exchange for Argentina's concessions on the Kyoto Treaty. See you Trackside. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==
Re: [CTRL] Rehnquist Struts Latest Style In Judicial Robes
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 9:22:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Skolnick's recollection, a similar striped-sleeve judicial robe was worn by judges in Nazi Germany. "Is it fashion, or fascism?" he asks. I was reading when the trial began and was startled to hear some of the words on the TV such as "hear ye, hear ye" and "on pain of imprisonment." My God, it sounded like high school kids in a play. Are the HypocriticalRepublicans (one word) trying to impress us boobs with high sounding rhetoric? They should know that it is much too late for that. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Censored Australian crypto report liberated
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:52:41 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Greg Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Censored Australian crypto report liberated Declan, This may be of interest to you. Regards, Greg Taylor Electronic Frontiers Australia -- EFA has obtained access to an uncensored copy of the "Review of Policy relating to Encryption Technologies" (the Walsh Report) and this has now been released online at: http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Crypto/Walsh/index.htm The originally censored parts are highlighted in red. The report was prepared in late 1996 by Gerard Walsh, former deputy director of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO). The report had been commissioned by the Attorney-General's Department in an attempt to open up the cryptography debate in Australia. It was intended to be released publicly and was sent to the government printer early in 1997. However, distribution was stopped, allegedly at a very high (i.e. political) level. EFA got wind of this and applied for its release under FOI in March 1997. This was rejected for law enforcement, public safety and national security reasons. We persisted, and eventually obtained a censored copy in June 1997, with the allegedly sensitive portions whited out. The report was released on the EFA website, and in the subsequent media coverage the department claimed that the report was never intended to be made public, a claim that is clearly at odds with Gerard Walsh's understanding of the objectives, as is obvious from his foreword to the report. It has now come to light that the Australian Government Publishing Service, which printed the report, lodged "deposit copies" with certain major libraries. This is a standard practice with all Australian government reports that are intended for public distribution. The Walsh Report is quite possibly the first instance where a report was withdrawn after printing but before any public release. It is believed that the Attorney-General's department was unaware that not all copies had been returned to them. To this day, the report remains officially unreleased, except for the censored FOI version. Interestingly, several Australian government sites now link to the report on the EFA website. Quite possibly, this situation would have remained unchanged, except for an alert university student, Nick Ellsmore, who recently stumbled across an unexpurgated copy of the report, gathering dust in the State Library in Hobart. The uncensored version has now replaced the censored report at the original URL. The irony of this tale is that the allegedly sensitive parts of the report, which were meant to be hidden from public gaze, are now dramatically highlighted. The censored sections provide a unique insight into the bureaucratic and political paranoia about cryptography, such that censorship was deemed to be an appropriate response. The official case for strict crypto controls is conseuently weakened, because much of the censored material consists of unpalatable truths that the administration would prefer to be covered up, even though the information may already be known, or at least strongly suspected, in the crypto community. This apparent unwillingness to admit the truth is an appalling indictment on those responsible for censoring the report. It is indicative of a bureaucracy more anxious to avoid embarrassment and criticism than adhere to open government principles and encourage policy debate. Even worse, the censorship was performed under the mantra of law enforcement and national security, a chilling example of Orwellian group-think. There are also some controversial recommendations in the report that demand attention, since they could well be still on the current policy agenda, in Australia or elsewhere. Examples are proposals for legalised hacking by agencies, legalised trap-doors in proprietary software, and protection from disclosure of the methods used by agencies to obtain encrypted information, an apparent endorsement of rubber-hose code-breaking. On top of all this is the matter of allegedly sensitive material being released to public libraries. It would seem that a number of copies have been gathering dust now for at least a year. So far the sky hasn't fallen, nor has the country succumbed to rampant threats to national security. Attached is a brief summary of what seem to be the important censored items, including a few which make the Attorney-General's Department look somewhat precious, to put it mildly. The more interesting exercise is to scroll through the report until you see red ;-) Greg === Paragraphs censored for reasons of national security, defence or international relations - A statement that there are "design flaws" in US and British key recovery proposals (1.2.52 and 1.2.57) - An opinion that
[CTRL] *GOOD*INFO*Devvy Kidd's People Connection
-Caveat Lector- *Very* informative website from a lady who has really researched the issues and makes a lot of sense. Devvy Kidd has been working full time for seven years to try and educate people about the U.N/ New World Order, "Federal Reserve" Vote Fraud etc using facts, not conjecture or extrapolation. Check- out her replies to the few hate e-mails she get's, almost without exception it is written by somebody who has spent less than 10 minutes reading the information on her website. Gavin. http://www.devvy.com/peoplecon.html#SOFC Good quote. Gavin. Joseph Pulitzer summed it up best when he said: "An able, disinterested, public-spirited press, with trained intelligence to know the right and courage to do it, can preserve that public virtue without which popular government is a sham and a mockery. A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." Here's a better one Our republic and its press will rise and fall together-Joseph Pulitzer One of the greatest problems freedom loving Americans face in America today is the controlled media. There is no free press in this country and those who have a problem with this are either in a state of denial, fear or they simply haven't done their homework. Joseph Pulitzer summed it up best when he said: "An able, disinterested, public-spirited press, with trained intelligence to know the right and courage to do it, can preserve that public virtue without which popular government is a sham and a mockery. A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." The government's media apparatus popularly known as the "mainstream media" is not only base, what they have done to the American people with their carefully crafted lies and black- out of the truth, is simply immoral. Over the past few months I have been deluged with e-mails from individuals all across this country who care about America, who care about what our Republic has stood for and all we will stand for in the future. The big question has been: What can I do and is there a group or organization in my area that I can join with to become part of America's army of truth in this battle to save our culture, our tradition, our way of life, our country? The pen has always been mightier than the sword and this battlefield of which I speak is Americans armed with the truth and the courage to stand up and have their voices heard and are willing to get out there and clean up the thoroughly corrupt federal government, the courts and local/state/county governments. This is a big job but it can be done if everyone gets on the same sheet of music. We can get the job done if people quit participating in pipe dream scam operations. We can get the job done if people stop spending all their time and financial resources chasing down a million conspiracy theories from individuals who are no better than the gasbags we see on TV everyday. A specific game plan, working with the truth, the law and valuable resources like recall, will bring results. I do not keep a regular mailing list. For one thing, I don't have the time or resources to do this. I do have a Rolodex of names and these are people I deal with on a regular basis. But, I think at this time and thanks to the overwhelming number of people reading this web site, we can now create a "people connection" so Americans can network with each other. This is how it's going to work: We have 50 states. There are at least 28,000 documented citizens groups, not counting any political parties. If you belong to a group or organization and you would like to be listed on this people connection, please send me via regular mail, any printed literature you have on what you're doing. Please indicate how you would like your listing to appear, i.e.: Citizens for a Better Government Attn: Joan Smith 111 Main Street Anywhere, USA 10001 Phone number you want to use, an e-mail address and a web site address if you have one Primary focus of our organization is: Repeal of unconstitutional laws by the state legislature Other locations for Citizens for a Better Government in Anywhere, USA: Then list all your statewide chapters with name, address, etc.. After I receive the information, I'll review it and then post it on the site. Please be advised in advance that I am not interested in any group or organization who are self-described white supremacists, neo-Nazi's or old Nazi's for that matter. The philosophy of these organizations in my opinion is junk and individuals who are involved in things like the KKK or other groups of a similar flavor are no more American than Senator Charles Shumer. Having said that, this section is for serious people like me who are trying to stop the destruction of our nation, not divide it. Once the list begins to grow, people reading the site will be able to click into The People Connection section and they can then find a group or organization close to where they live and hopefully join
[CTRL] Fwd: [priory-of-sion] pos fraud article notes (LONG)
From: "Ludo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notes On Part One of "The Unknown Treasure : The Priory of Sion Fraud And The Spiritual Treasure of Rennes-Le-Chateau" by Robert Richardson from The Rennes Observer Begins by recognising importance of the subject of Rennes-le- Chateau to genuine students of the Western esotoric tradition, but decries increasing trend of the publication and promotion of material that is "purely hypothetical, which is neither factual or experiential, and which, in some cases, is entirely fabricated" Posits that the story popularly known to the 30,000 annual visitors to Rennes-le-Chateau is false, that while the area has "genuine spiritual importance, the information forming the core publicity about it is was fabricated in the last several decades for deliberate ends." Claims that the fabricated evidence was fed to well-intentioned authors, and that the underlying disinformation has been re-iterated and perpetuated by later, similarly well-intentioned authors seeking to elaborate on the RLC story Breaks the elements of the RLC story down to four elements: 1) The story of Father Berenger Sauniere and his contemporaries 2) The story of what Sauniere found 3) The story of how and why a 20th century group fabricated the false history of what they pretended was an ancient esotoric society called the Priory of Sion 4) The story of how writers, publishers and readers swallowed and embellished the disinformation created by the so-called Priory of Sion Decides that in order to take a fresh look at the significance of RLC, it is necessary to investigate the Priory of Sion fraud, to see what group created it, and how Essay begins with a look at the occult revival in mid-19th century France, citing Paris as a centre for esotoric groups and the increasingly open discussion of occult subjects. Points out that many esotoric groups were founded and then just as quickly broke up into competing splinter groups, with many individuals belonging to several different esotoric orders. Claims that this background created "a confusing climate of overlapping memberships and affiliations." that continues to impact on cultural and esotoric thought today. He claims that some of the theories about reforming society that arose during the French occult revival would not become widely known until after the Russian revolution. The main thrust of these theories was to attack the errors of the "corrupt and morally bankrupt society spawned by the Second Empire of Napolean III", seeing the policies as stemming from a mistake made in the past. He agrees that such a conclusion was easy to make since France's socio-political structure had been in a state of turmoil since the Revolution. Claims that until 1905 (when the government formally separated the Catholic church and the state), 3 factions were locked into a battle "which would forever end the institutional power and priviledges of two of the combatants: 1) The Royalists (the old ruling classes and those favouring their return) 2) The Church (a Royalist ally seeking to maintain its historic power base) 3) The Repubulicans (composed in the RLC territory of the Languedoc primarily of freemasons, the working classes and influential rural citizens. During this time of chaos, there were increasing calls to reform and change society, "to return it to a spiritually focused state from which mankind could reform an increasingly dehumanised world." Places origins of "synarchy" in the 1880s with a man called Joseph Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre. Claims that forty years later, after bubbling along in esotoric circles, synarchy entered the political mainstream. Defines synarchy (or joint rule) as a combination of the esotoric and the political - select groups of initiates influencing groups which represent different aspects of society. Saint-Yves d'Alveydre's model was the Knight Templars, who he saw as secretly directing the society of their time in this way. He believed that a return of Templar principles would leads to the creation of an ideal society. Claims that the principles were seen as a threat by the Royalists, Church and far right, adding fuel to their belief that freemasonry was their natural enemy - and as such the influence of freemasonry and synarchy had to be ended, leading to the denouncing by the French far right of Jews and Freemasons "with the same breath" Says that these attitudes were further spurred on by influence of Papus and the banding together of fourteen initiatic orders (including the Traditional Martinist Order, The Order of Hermes and AMORC) into a federation called F.U.D.O.S.I - which was seen as a new power centre against the far right. The far right responded by founding a host of pseudo-esotoric groups with far-right attitudes and pro-Catholic stances in an attempt to counter- balance their influence. Identifies one group which appears to fall into this category, which was founded at the time : Alpha Galates
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 9:25:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true champion of the 1st Amendment and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right. Cheers to Larry! Keep up the fight! I agree. Flynt has apparently been addicted to sex in the past but he is now serving the national interest. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dissembling, Deception, and Lies
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:478121"Dissembling, Deception, and Lies/A - Subject: Dissembling, Deception, and Lies From: Ralph McGehee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Jan 13, 1999 9:53 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --A8E69707B1A57BDC44EFCC35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --A8E69707B1A57BDC44EFCC35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="Pubpao" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Pubpao" Dissembling, Deception and Lies The Agency's domestic propaganda operations are continuous and massive although hidden from sight -- and I assumed, illegal. However, we have a document released under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), that sets forth the operations of the Agency's Public Affairs Office (PAO). The below are partial quotes from that document. After quoted details from that document, further below is a brief examination of the CIA's clandestine use of the domestic media in the 50s' 60s' and into the seventies. It should be noted that the CIA ran massive media operations around the world to overturn other governments -- this subject is huge and also requires study. The best available example of this usage is contained in the Church Committee's report of the Agency's covert operation to overthrow the Allende government in Chile from 1963 - 1973. I posted extensive quotes from this document recently and they can be found at my web site: http://www.members.tripod.com/CIABASE/index/html Ralph McGehee CIABASE 20 December 1991 MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence (After a number of introductory remarks the document sets forth the programs of the Public Affairs Office (PAO). A. MEDIA 1) Current Program: a. PAO now has relationships with reporters from every major wire service, newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation. This has helped up turn some "intelligence failure" stories into "Intelligence success" stories...In many instances, we have persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories b. PAO spokespersons build and maintain these professional relationships with reporters by responding to daily inquiries from them over the telephone (3369 in 1991), by providing unclassified background briefings to them at Headquarters (174 in 1991), and by arranging for them to interview the DCI, DDCI and other senior Agency officials (164 in 1991). c. PAO responds to numerous requests from authors, researchers, filmmakers, and others seeking information, guidance, or cooperation from the Agency...Some responses can be handled in a one-shot telephone call. Others, such as Life Magazine's proposed photo essay, BBC's six-part series, Ron Kessler's requests for information for his Agency book, and the need for an Agency focal point in the Rochester Institute of Technology controversy drew heavily on PAO resources. d. PAO has also reviewed some film scripts about the Agency, documentary and fictional, at the request of filmmakers seeking guidance on accuracy and authenticity (sic). In a few instances, we facilitated the filming of a few scenes on Agency premises. Responding positively to these requests in a limited way has provided PAO with the opportunity to help others depict the Agency and its activities accurately and without negative distortions e. PAO coordinates the preparation of detailed background materials, usually in QA format, on major news issues for the DCI and the DDCI for their appearances before media groups, world affairs councils, universities, and business and professional groups. PAO also prepares verbatim transcripts of their interviews with reporters and their appearances before media groups. 2) Recommendations: (This section generally calls for expanding public relations efforts.) B. ACADEMIA 1) Current Program a. The Agency has a wide range of contacts with academics through recruiting, professional societies, contractual arrangements and OTE. PAO has recently been designated the focal point for all information about CIA's relations with the academic community. As such, PAO is building a database of information about Agency contacts with academia-conferences and seminars, recruiting officers and scholars-in-residence, contracts, teaching--and serves as the clearinghouse of such information for Agency employees. b. PAO officers also speak to approximately 250 academic audiences a year. Subject areas vary, but the focus on the structure and functions of the CIA, its role in the intelligence community, the intelligence process, and congressional oversight. PAO has developed a speakers' package for Agency officers and retirees who speak in public, including an annually updated QA
[CTRL] Pinochet Murder Mystery
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:478098"Pinochet Murder Mystery/A - Subject: Pinochet Murder Mystery From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ifmagazine) Date: Wed, Jan 13, 1999 9:22 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A potential witness in the human rights case against Gen. Augusto Pinochet disappeared in Uruguay a few years back. The witness had been one of Pinochet's technical experts on assassinations, a scientist who had developed the nerve gas, Sarin, for Pinochet's intelligence arm, DINA. The scientist "disappeared" after being sought for a human-rights trial in Chile. He reappeared briefly in Uruguay at a police station as he begged for protection and claimed that he was to be executed on Pinochet's order. Armed men then arrived and took the scientist away. Years later, authorities found what they believe to be the scientist's remains. This murder mystery that bears on the current legal wrangling over a possible human-rights trial for Pinochet in Spain can be found at The Consortium web site at http://www.consortiumnews.com The Consortium is a free web site but we urge those who wish to support our investigative reporting to subscribe to our bi-monthly publication, iF Magazine, which also contains new articles about the Pinochet case, the connection to former President George Bush and behind-the-scenes accounts of the Washington impeachment battles. A subscription to iF Magazine costs $25 a year and can be obtained with Visa/Mastercard either by e-mail or by calling 1-800-738-1812 or 703-920-1802, or by check to The Media Consortium, Suite 102-231, 2200 Wilson Blvd., Arlington, VA 22201. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] William: Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 10:48:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, you have every right to be. Jabba the Flynt didn't get very much for his million, did he. He did get that Bob "family values" Barr repeatedly took the 5th when asked about adultery and about his hand in his wife's abortion. Jerry PS Flynt has 8 investigations still going. He says the Republican Party will be devastated if they come to fruition. We'll see, they may not come to anything more than the charges of the 13 year old boy being Clinton's son. Has anyone at all apologized for this story being broadcast throughout the mainstream media yet? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Pirate Issue
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:478013"The Pirate Issue/A - Subject: The Pirate Issue From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mik*_ Schn*der) Date: Tue, Jan 12, 1999 11:49 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (This is why I will always be using Macs, even if Steve Jobs is a bozo.) Mac Addict #30 Feb 99 "Special Pirate Issue" ...among other featured articles: BEAT THE MAN: Set up a renegade internet radio station! (That's right, blowhard! You can take your incoherent ramblings to the web and reach more people than Rush and Howard combined. All you need is Quicktime 3.0, a Mac, and a modem.) Fake IDs: cheap, easy and illegal! (The latest round of printers and scanners makes is easier and cheaper than ever for the unscrupulous to fake an identity. Our own Robert Capps discovers just how easy it is -- and reports on what hardware to watch for.) -- What a great article! Scanners, printers software reviewed. This would be a killer combo with John Newman's "Understanding US Identity Documents" (Available through Loompanics Unlimited). * * * * And the very best reason to own a Mac: A Customs Check in the Peoples Republic Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:18:12 -0400 From: "K. N. Cukier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Searched at UK Border for Net Porn Sender: "K. N. Cukier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some days it's a bad hair day, other days you see the suite of Western values since the Enlightenment quashed in an instant by a single, soulless, civil servant. Here's what happened to me last Friday when I arrived in London from Paris on the channel tunnel train: As I walked through UK immigration, two guys pulled me aside, flashed badges, and said: "UK Customs. Come with us." They walked me behind a wall where they handed me off to one of a fleet of waiting agents. A customs officer told me to lay my computer bag on the table, and inspected my ticket and passport. After learning I was a reporter, she demanded to see my press card (issued by the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs), and asked about where I was going in London, why, and for how long. "Do you know there are things that are illegal to bring into the UK?" she asked. "Uh, yeah There are *many* things that are illegal to bring across borders -- do you have in mind any thing in particular?," I said. "Illegal drugs, fire arms, bomb making materials, lewd and obscene pornographic material" I felt a rush of relief. I was late and now was assured I could get on with my journey. "I am carrying none of that," I replied, staring directly at her, with a tone of earnest seriousness. "Is that a computer in your bag?" "Yes." "Does it have Internet on in?" Here, I confess, I really didn't know how to answer. What does one say to a question like that?? I was struck dumb. "I use the computer to access the Internet, yes," I said, rather proud of myself for my accuracy. "Is there any pornography on it?" she said, stoically. Here, I figured out what's going on. But I'm mentally paralyzed from all the synapses sparkling all at once in my head: Does she not understand that Internet content is distributed around the world? That I'm just dialing a local number, be it in France or the UK, and that whether I cross a border is moot to what I'm able to access? "There is no pornography stored on the hard drive," I stated. "Do you mind if I check." she says rather than asks, and begins to take the computer out of the bag. "I'm just going to hook it up over there and scan the hard drive..." she continues. And then her face turns dour. "Oh! It's an Apple," she says, dejectedly. "Our scanner doesn't work on Apples." [And by the time they figure that out, I'll be they wouldn't have the slightest clue how to extract porn from an encrypted Shrinkwrap archive!] At this point, it's all a little bit too much, too fast, for me to handle. From seeing my personal privacy ripped out from under me with a computer-enema to an immediate about-face and witnessing my oppressors flounder in the pap of their own incompetence was just too much to bear. Then, of course, I sort of relished the irony of it all. I swung into naive-mode: "Oh. Oh well," I said and began packing up. "Why not?" "I dunno -- it just doesn't," she said. "Is this a common thing that you do? Scan PCs?" "It happens quite often," she said. (Note: I wrote this entire dialogue immediately after the incident, but that particular quote I wrote the moment we parted, to have it exactly right.) "Do you catch a lot?" "Sometimes," she says, cautiously. What's the fine? The penalty?" I asked. She started to become uncomfortable and tried to move me along. "It depends. Every case is different. It depends what they have." "What about if I had encryption -- do you check for that too?" I said, disdaining the risk that she might want to check the computer "by hand" since I'd mentioned the dreaded C-word "Huh?! I don't
[CTRL] New World Order
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:477975"New World Order/A - Subject: New World Order From: "Muad'ib" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jan 12, 1999 8:12 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am researching for some time now the New World Order that presidents all over the world have talked about all this past century , i am interested to share views with people that possess information about it , i am not interested in theorys , that i can find for myself , i am interested in factual information about this subject in order to form enough evidence on the structure that supports the future implementation of this World Government and if possible expose it. I do not care if you are CIA or FBI or MOSSAD , i make a plea to anywone who might have information about this subject to reveal it , it concerns you all , it threatens all your families , all around the western world . I also have to make a warning to all that discuss this subject , some with fear some with no knowledge of what is it really about. The World Government is in place for some time now , it is not a theory it is reality . Those who are afraid don't be , all you have to do is to be aware , search for information and share with others , thats freedom only hope nothing else but theyre exposure can save us all , there is no place to run to. Those who do not believe i make a plea , please give the benefit of the dought and search for FACTUAL information about the illuminati , the bildberg group , the trilateral comission and all other groups like FEMA , CFR , MI5 , check their logos and symbols and compare with the old illuminati order , then read what is their ideology , you will see that we can only question their goals and expeculate who they are, because the new world order is a reality , for you to understand more i will quote a statement of 25th birthday of the trilateral commission: "We know, for sure now, that the future will involve more than the three corners of our triangle. Technology has abolished time and space as the traditional basis of governance. A new form has to emerge and with more actors. The qualities of innovation we demonstrated for the last twenty-five years are challenged again. The moment is coming when it will be clear to all, in particular to us-friends and members of the Trilateral Commission -- that the best, maybe the only, way to defend the interests, traditions, and hopes we cherish will be to place them resolutely within the context offered by the disciplines and opportunities of a genuine world order, genuine because created and recognized by all as fair and legitimate. The first global history of mankind is about to start. A new window is opening. The challenge is clear." (http://www.trilateral.org/nagp/regmtgs/25us/tributes.htm) Do you bet your sons and loved ones lives that there is really nothing to worry about , without even checking for yourself ??? If you have sensitive information to send , my public pgp key is at bottom. please send all your emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Only those who have the courage to open their eyes , are able to see" Carlos G. -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use http://www.pgpi.com mQGiBDab910RBADGLIsetSxbJz0g4056VnXr4cN+izRY36QcKQC6+xFNLzANJML2 IFHNS6kOyVeC9YLkA46YDaHXFNW8qxXap3lHhq59Lsfay5h+c4uMLCgoG34cuaDS Ryp1nfxk5txtM6Arh/ZEISo3Peb0Dr0ALLMoxS4VKyeMviPRp8aeFnqGpwCg/9An LAlj2o/+Ww+xWWM8LEvf19sD/1sFSiH4l9E6vPdsLaCWAyRQd+gGdSeujDZnOQYo FhMUbwohwoJP6QpSiaGZ0/VG4EMP1f1UAdd4UDePbpBjGZ2UfFuHLNDmZff3AKSP 5eVEvbIk8arY8/mXQpuwUBdbqT+hoZREJHW/llxsMmF+dVjZY6ps9y6wuNOj7MzZ xpVZA/4jTTQaNqaCVp404raZbyl1GqVDqKZCvjgoU3Y2/0rv28Bfj6+xKrJnylj3 nLa0pmVcMvS/J3XjAhRbvvs6eozMtH3PyUFY5T3P1eO6KE8fqYJIS3cBtgwMG7wc otSlpaI9yb36ePU5AEjmHewovugcoMOWqOTmsNrBMilIkVCs6LQ6Q2FybG9zIEFs ZXhhbmRyZSBkb3MgU2FudG9zIEdhbHZlaWFzIDxmZWRha2ltQGhvdG1haWwuY29t PokASwQQEQIACwUCNpv3XQQLAwIBAAoJEHRfJzDHE+sE4rgAnRC5CDE4QCex3NPR 7jUHALUfSBwjAJ9/crPYbi5gM7Q54or8q3p6zlSkd7kEDQQ2m/ddEBAA+RigfloG YXpDkJXcBWyHhuxh7M1FHw7Y4KN5xsncegus5D/jRpS2MEpT13wCFkiAtRXlKZmp nwd00//jocWWIE6YZbjYDe4QXau2FxxR2FDKIldDKb6V6FYrOHhcC9v4TE3V46pG zPvOF+gqnRRh44SpT9GDhKh5tu+Pp0NGCMbMHXdXJDhK4sTw6I4TZ5dOkhNh9tvr JQ4X/faY98h8ebByHTh1+/bBc8SDESYrQ2DD4+jWCv2hKCYLrqmus2UPogBTAaB8 1qujEh76DyrOH3SET8rzF/OkQOnX0ne2Qi0CNsEmy2henXyYCQqNfi3t5F159dSS T5sYjvwqp0t8MvZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65Szgg2gGnVqMU6Y9A VfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09jdvOmeFXklnN/biu dE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brwv0YAWCvl9Ij9WE5J 280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySPAQ/ClWxiNjrtVjLhdONM0/XwX V0OjHRhs3jMhLLUq/zzhsSlAGBGNfISnCnLWhsQDGcgHKXrKlQzZlp+r0ApQmwJG 0wg9ZqRdQZ+cfL2JSyIZJrqrol7DVes91hcAAgIP/jxVXuZFg98e48aYvFI6s2Bs DbatEpr8ky+y36EsTuEQCuqStcbBLj7lJBqthR1ck+yjmzcPh+9oiee4PZGv14HQ NUqkL52Zv4WwVcc594rNP97vgcN4ogIJTTGEvLrZr/83NeaMSmQ/IxmbOefKZTgc /3UxzjRBHrmLsxKfqkLW534456LJrUW2bloJhCgzDB9BcVp5nBMOJceETYdF/Mx1
Re: [CTRL] NSA Bans Furbies
-Caveat Lector- Jesus Christ people The NSA didn't ban it from the country or even stop its employees from owning one. It just stopped its employees from bringing them into the building due to the fact that classified material is discussed and could be repeated by the Furby. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Mysterious Spraying Update
MYSTERIOUS SPAYING SAID TO BE SECRET-MILITARY OPERATION The Environmental News Service (http://www.ens.lycos.com) has a follow-up to their report about multiple sightings around the U.S. of massive grid-work patterns in the sky being created by fleets of jets that fly back and forth and spray down a material that seems to make people ill. (see http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html) In their follow-up [1], ENS interviews Thomas Farmer, an ex-Raytheon Missile Systems engineer who's been tracking the mysterious spraying incidents for over a year. Farmer has confirmed that jets used to spray are Air Force jets, and he's made several collections of the cobweb-like, or "angel hair," material the jets are spraying out, which made him, just like many others, sick after contact. It appears to be a substance used to seed (build) clouds. ENS reports that Farmer is "fairly certain the contrail phenomena is one part of a military weather modification weapons system." The ENS report then observes that a sub- set of the military plan to use weather as a weapon and create a "Weather Force," is massive cloud-seeding that will work in with the HAARP antenna in Alaska, which is the U.S. military's primary weather-weapons system, which can exert effects on locations across the earth. The openly-stated goal for the U.S. military is to "own the weather" [2] by year 2025 and to thereby be able to bring target populations to their knees by "storm enhancement," "storm modification," and being able to "induce drought." [1] So rather than natural laws of solar-heating and earth-rotation directing the weather, the weather will be determined by who is pleasing or displeasing our military masters, or then again, perhaps power does not really corrupt. A U.S. military webpage [3] states that weather modification by the military is intended to allow for "storm triggering/enhancement using airborne cloud seeding." That military webpage also says: "A global network of sensors provides 'weather warriors' with the means to monitor and accurately predict weather activities and their effects on military operations. A diverse set of weather modification tools allows manipulation of small- to-medium scale weather phenomena to enhance friendly force capabilities and degrade those of the adversary. Many of the sensors required for this system are assumed to be...part of the global information management system (GIMS)..." Apart from allowing for an Orwellian-weather tyranny, military-weather control could lead to environmental catastrophe, since the desire to exert control will conflict with and overpower rational environment con- siderations, particularly if control is directed under the cover of military secrecy. Deliberate large-scale modification of the weather must be the most dangerous thing we could do to our planet, and it appears that military-weather-control planning is being done in secret, outside the realm of democratic oversight, just where it needs to be for the worst outcomes! __ [1] Read The Full Environmental News Service Report "Mystery Contrails May Be Modifying Weather" (1/12/99): http://www.ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-12-01.html [2] Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025: http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/acsc/96-025ag.htm [3] Military Weather Analysis and Modification System: http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume4/chap03/b9_2.htm After my first message on this topic one person replied saying the grid pattern of contrails appeared in their area in Idaho and 13 people (mostly old) died shortly there after. Another person responded saying they've seen unique grid-work contrail patterns in Georgia. _ Web Pages On The HAARP Weather-Weapon System: NEXUS article on HAARP: "Vandalism in the Sky" http://www.earthpulse.com/haarp/vandalism.html And at: http://www.icom.net/~nexus/HAARP.html . http://www.haarp.com http://www.xyz.net/~nohaarp/pandora.htm http://www.relaypoint.net/~patriot/haarp1.htm Cloud Seeding Weather Modification Pages: http://www.tecom.army.mil/tts/1997/proceed/abarnes/sld004.htm http://rams.atmos.colostate.edu/gkss.html http://ae.atmos.uah.edu/AE/ams_97a.html http://www.atmos-inc.com/weamod.html http://www.dri.edu/ASC/WxMod/HomePage.html http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/saas/coble_bb.htm http://www.wmi.cban.com http://earth.agu.org/revgeophys/czys01/czys01.html ___ IAN GODDARD'S ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN JOURNAL --- http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm - the critics are raving - "Shouldn't this be expunged?...[since] it is spreading fear and suspicion of the government." Lesley Stahl (CBS - 60 Minutes) Call the police! Newsday reports that "another site linked to Goddard's" is linked to
[CTRL] 11 myths about Iraq situation
THE SANCTIONS "From previous trips, we knew exactly where to find overwhelming evidence of a weapon of mass destruction. Inspectors have only to enter the wards of any hospital in Iraq to see that the sanctions themselves are a lethal weapon, destroying the lives of Iraq's most vulnerable people. In children's wards, tiny victims writhe in pain, on blood-stained mats, bereft of anesthetics and antibiotics. Thousands of children, poisoned by contaminated water, die from dysentery, cholera, and diarrhea. Others succumb to respiratory infections that become fatal full body infections. Five thousand children, under age five, perish each month." - Kathy Kelly, March 9, 1998 --- In the five years since the Persian Gulf War, "as many as 576,000 children have died as a result of sanctions imposed against Iraq by the United Nations Security Council, according to a report by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)." (New York Times, 12/1/95) If the blockade continues, UNICEF tells us, 1.5 million more children will eventually suffer malnutrition or a variety of unchecked illnesses because the sanctions make antibiotics and other standard medicines impossible to get. Yet the U.N. Security Council and the U.S. government continues to defend a blockade whose highest casualty rate is among those under 5 years old. We can no longer remain party to this slaughter in the desert. Myths and Realities In numerous presentations, Voices in the Wilderness members have heard the following myths. We think the discussion below will help clarify our perspective on several important issues. Myth 1 - The sanctions have produced temporary hardship for the Iraqi people but are an effective, nonviolent way to pressure the Iraqi government. Surveys by UNICEF, the United Nations Children's Fund, have found that almost one-third of Iraqi children are suffering chronic malnutrition. An April, 1997 UNICEF report says that 4,500 children continue to die each month for lack of adequate food or medicine. The UN Department of Humanitarian Affairs reports that "public health services are near total collapse - basic medicines, life-saving drugs and essential medical supplies are lacking throughout the country. 50% of rural people have no access to potable water and waste water treatment facilities have stopped functioning in most urban areas." The sanctions are an insidious form of warfare that have claimed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian lives. Myth 2 - The US government wants to enforce UN Resolutions and uphold the rule of law. The US has consistently employed a double standard when it comes to UN Resolutions and international law. For decades, the US has vetoed UN resolutions condemning Israel's occupation of Arab territories. It is also relevant to the current situation that the US is in technical violation of a global treaty to dismantle chemical weapons (AP, 2/27/98). A Senate bill passed in 1997 allows the president to deny international inspections of US weapons sites "on grounds of national security." UN sanctions against Iraq, which continue to be imposed at the insistence of the US (with the UK following suit) are a gross violation of the Geneva Protocol 1, Article 54; Starvation of Civilians as a Method of Warfare is Prohibited. It's significant that the US, which has yet to ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, considered using nuclear weapons against Iraq in February, 1998. Myth 3 - The US Government is concerned about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. The US and other western European countries were the major suppliers of chemical and biological weapons to Iraq in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war. A report from the US Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs states that 9 out of 10 biological materials used in Iraq's weapon components were bought from US companies. The Los Angeles Times (2/19/98) reported that the US supplied satellite intelligence to the Iraqis when they used chemical weapons against Iran in 1988. During the Gulf War, the US military used depleted uranium tipped shells, rockets and missiles, spreading tons of highly toxic uranium oxide particles into the air. A dramatic rise in congenital diseases and fetal deformities has been found amongst both the children of Gulf War veterans and Iraqi children under age five. The US imposes genocidal sanctions which are themselves a weapon of mass destruction, yet the US sells billions of dollars of weapons of mass destruction to other Gulf states. Israel possesses over 200 thermonuclear weapons and has violated 69 UN mandates, yet the US uses its veto power in the UN Security Council to prevent the UN from
Re: [CTRL] NSA Bans Furbies
-Caveat Lector- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Caveat Lector- Jesus Christ people The NSA didn't ban it from the country or even stop its employees from owning one. It just stopped its employees from bringing them into the building due to the fact that classified material is discussed and could be repeated by the Furby. Assuming you're right(and that is not meant to dispute it), that is not at all how it was put in the tv story I saw today in Detroit. More irresponsible reporting? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] History of the Net url
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Re: [CTRL] King Clinton Rules by Decree
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-13 13:20:47 EST, you write: As noted before, this line of thinking, carried to the extreme reaches of the bureaucratic mind, will result in requiring everyone to have a breathing permit, for we all, with every breath, emit carbon dioxide. And taking it even further, such permits could become the population control measure of some "1984" future society. You cannot have more than one child; two will produce too much carbon dioxide. RED China, Clinton's buddies that provide money for the DNC already have the one child rule. I think Clinton stated (or his aides) that he was going to use his power (abuse) of Executive Orders if he didn't get his way... the sooner he is impeached, the better, but citizens, even a large portion of members subscribing to this list... still support him. Welcome to the C.S.A. (Communist States of America). I think it was Claire Wolfe who said "America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." I'm thinking it might be like Jefferson stated that it takes the blood of tyrants and patriots to cleanse the system and start anew. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US Military Detention Camp Photos
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:09:23 + (GMT) From: David Tilbury GNET 822 5435 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: U.N. Prisons in the U.S? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Managed to get back after about 9 months away! Hope you're all well, anyone seen this? Dave US Military Detention Camp Photos From: John Hammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that the barbed wire is configured to keep people "in", not "out", and also note in the middle of the guard towers, a platform for the mounting of a machine gun. This site is on the Michigan National Guard base in Grayling, Michigan View #1 http://www.eagleflt.com/PRIS1.JPG View #2 http://www.eagleflt.com/PRIS2.JPG View #3 http://www.eagleflt.com/PRIS3.JPG Photos of an "Ememy Prisoner of War" camp at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Is there going to be a war here? Prisoner of War Camp http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/powpict/powpict1.htm Watch Tower http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/powpict/powpict2.htm Barb Wire Towers http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/powpict/powpict3.htm Close-up of Barb Wire http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/powpict/powpict4.htm Portable Jails on a Truck http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/powpict/powpict5.htm Close-up of Portable Jails http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/powpict/powpict6.htm Alleged Internment Camps List http://38.156.255.194/colombo/colombo/american/camps/cam_orig.htm CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS UP FOR REVIEW http://www.thewinds.org/archive/government/camp9-97.html ___ United Nations Vehicles On U.S. Soil These photos are of actual United Nations vehicles on the soil of America. These vehicles are coming into our ports -- namely Port Beaumont, Texas--at a staggering rate. Why? UN Vehicles Just Off The Port http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh1.htm Rear View of the Vehicles http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh2.htm Close-up http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh3.htm Another close-up http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh4.htm Transport through City http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh5.htm Convoy of Trucks http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh6.htm UN Ambulance 1 http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unambul1.htm UN Ambulance 2 http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unambul2.htm UN Bus http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unbus.htm Missle Launcher Truck http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/missltr.htm German Vehicles http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/germveh.htm - Send "subscribe iufo " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: David Tilbury GNET 822 5435 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's Midi http://www.anomalous-images.com/jimi_hendrix-third_stone_from_the_sun.mid New Phobos Update Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Snitch
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[CTRL] Causes of many deadly diseases found to be ASPARTAME
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Subject:[Illusions] Causes of many deadly diseases found to be
ASPARTAME
READ The Deadly Truth
About Aspartame ('NutraSweet'-'Equal'-'Spoonful', etc) "...when they
remove brain tumors, they have found high levels of aspartame in
them".
By Nancy Markle
12-12-98
I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL
CONFERENCE on "ASPARTAME marketed as 'NutraSweet', 'Equal', and
'Spoonful"'. In the keynote address by the EPA, they announced that there
was an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus, and they did not
understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant across the United
States. I explained that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood
alcohol in ASPARTAME coverts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid,
which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. (Formic acid is the poison found
in the sting of fire ants). The methanol toxicity mimics multiple sclerosis;
thus people were being diagnosed with having multiple sclerosis in error.
The multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, where methanol toxicity is. In
the case of systemic lupus, we are finding it has become almost as
rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi
drinkers. Also, with methanol toxicity, the victims usually drink three to four
12 oz. Cans of them per day, some even more. In the cases of systemic
lupus, which is triggered by ASPARTAME, the victim usually does not know
that the aspartame is the culprit The victim continues its use aggravating
the lupus to such a degree, that sometimes it becomes life threatening.
When we get people off the aspartame, those with systemic lupus usually
become asymptomatic.
Unfortunately, we can not reverse this disease. On the other hand, in the
case of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, (when in reality, the
disease is methanol toxicity), most of the symptoms disappear.
We have seen cases where their vision has returned and even their hearing
has returned. This also applies to cases of tinnitus. During a lecture I said
"If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc.) and you
suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting pains, numbness in
your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, joint pain,
depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss
-- you probably have ASPARTAME DISEASE!" People were jumping up
during the lecture saying, "I've got this, is it reversible?"
It is rampant. Some of the speakers at my lecture even were suffering from
these symptoms. In one lecture attended by the Ambassador of Uganda,
he told us that their sugar industry is adding aspartame! He continued by
saying that one of the industry leader's son could no longer walk - due in
part by product usage! We have a very serious problem.
Even a stranger came up to Dr. Espisto (one of my speakers) and myself
and said, '1Could you tell me why so many people seem to be coming
down with MS?11 During a visit to a hospice, a nurse said that six of her
friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with
MS. This is beyond coincidence. Here is the problem. There were
Congressional Hearings when aspartame was included in 100 different
products.
Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, but to
no avail. Nothing as been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very
deep pockets. Now there are over 5,000 products containing this chemical,
and the PATENT HAS EXPIRED! At the time of this first hearing,
people were going blind. The methanol in the aspartame converts to
formaldehyde in the retina of the eye.
Formaldehyde is grouped in the same class of dmgs as cyanide and
arsenic-- DEADLY POISONS!!! Unfortunately, it just takes longer to quietly
kill, but it is killing people and causing all kinds of neurological problems.
Aspartame changes the brain's chemistry. It is the reason for severe
seizures. This drug changes the dopamine level in the brain. Imagine what
this drug does to patients suffering from Parkinson's Disease. This drug
also causes Birth Defects. There is absolutely no reason to take this
product.
It is NOT A DIET PRODUCT!!! The Congressional record said, "It makes
you crave carbohydrates and will make you FAT". Dr. Roberts stated that
when he got patients off aspartame, their average weight loss was 19
pounds per person. The formaldehyde stores in the fat cells, particularly in
the hips and thighs.
Aspartame is especially deadly for diabetics. All physicians know what
wood alcohol will do to a
Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Jim Condit Jr. wrote: -Caveat Lector- Yes, it is true, the Brokaw book, The Greatest Generation is a tribute by the Ruling Elite to the hapless generation of dupes that spilt the blood and made the sacrifices to make many of the Ruling Elite's dreams come true. While it is true that this generation has exhibited an unshakable and deplorable fatalism, especially in the last few decades, (never has so many done so little with so much!) -- and yet, there is still something admirable in the discipline and self-sacrifice of this generation. If our generation (25-50 or so) could combine an equal discipline and spirit of self-sacrifice to the greatly increased critical thinking that is now extant -- we would have something. Jim Condit Jr. I agree. My parents generation were certainly hard workers and put up with a lot more then we would. Even at 73, my mother is still busy helping others by running an english as a second language course at her church and helping a woman on a regular basis who has lost her ability to speak. And my father is still out helping record musicicians, design sound systems and help people out in various ways. I have a lot of respect for them. However, they really didn't and still don't have a clue as to what is going on in the world. (Which may be a particial explanation for their unquestioning enthusiasm for much which I find questionable). What if our generation made the real sacrifices their did with our greater understanding of the way the world works and was able to actually change it? Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Olympic$$$
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/13/99 9:06:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of the cash payments and other benefits have been confirmed by the recipients. Jean-Claude Ganga, the IOC member from the Congo Republic, admitted receiving $70,000 in direct payments, as well as free medical care and a favorable position in a Utah real estate deal, which netted him $60,000. Ganga described such arrangements as "normal." Isn't it funny? Jim Thorp was stripped of his medals for being paid about twenty bucks for playing baseball. But it is normal (and I'm sure it is) for financial payoffs for the OIC, and multi-millionaire Michael Jordan takes a little time out and plays Olympic basketball. His multi-millions came from the very sport he was playing for the Olympics. Does anyone know if Thorp was ever given his medals back? Prudy I believe that they were returned to his family after he died. Seems like it was in the 70s. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] King Clinton Rules by Decree
World Banks Environmental Facility. This is a fallacy. They want to make the environment that we live to include our houses and our daily lives. This is not by the definition of Environment that GreenPeace has. The World Bank may call it environment by in reality it is control. Clinton (a few months ago) took control of the largest clean coal deposit in the US maybe in the world. Laura AKA The Pied Piper http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215 Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store.(anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartameVISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs CasesVISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business!
Re: [CTRL] Joshua2 and Joshua Reports.
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 7:44:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My husband's name is appropriate: Michael is the Chief Archangel of God, who "contends with the devil"] Please. PLEASE don't get us confused. I am Joshua2. I have nothing to do with Joshua Report. I come from a long line of 2s, and can trace my bloodline back to Lucy. I don't know nothin' about no Reports. You can always tell the difference. Take a whiff. If it smells at all spiritual or supernatural, it's not the real thing. Don't be fooled, don't buy substitutes. The real, Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Living in corporate America.
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: Historian Arnold Toynbee studied 21 past civilizations, looking for common factors in their demise. The two most important ones were the EXTREME CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH, and inflexibility in the face of changing conditions within and around them. Aaaah ... but were they FREE societies? Regard$, --MJ Ooh ... no they were slave societies ruled by a free elite class. Just like today. Eeh ... but it's the act of wealth concentration itself that is the problem. And it is the power that wealth brings that corrupts the freedom of everyone. Yiieeeah ... that's why there must be limits on the amount of wealth individuals can accumulate. YIKES!!! The best way to do that is with a progressive income tax up to 100% when anyone approaches that limit. No tax shelters. No foolin'. 100% tax on income over $2,000,000 per year. If you can't live on that, take a second job in another country. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CTRL(1)The Maximum Wage
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Maximum Wage by Sam Pizzigati The Apex Press (C) 1992 777 United Nations Plaza New York, NY 10017 212/953-6920 ISBN 0-945257-45-7 - A very intersting and well researched book. I found it to be very informative. Personally, I would like the 'Fed' gone and non-usurious notes issued by the government. MHO Om K - pp. 37-59 2. The Wars Against Wealth Nobody gave Hattie Caraway much of a chance. In the 1932 Arkansas election for United States senator, Caraway, a caretaker incumbent appointed to the seat held by her late husband, faced six other candidates. A week before the election, no one in Arkansas politics considered her a viable contender.(1) But Hattie Caraway had, in her brief stint as senator, made one very astute move. She had earned the gratitude of the junior senator from Louisiana, Huey P. Long, by supporting his proposed Senate resolution to limit the wealth and incomes of America's richest people. In the closing weeks of Hattie Caraway's campaign, Long repaid the favor. He brought his tax-the-rich and share-the-wealth message to the Depression- ravaged farmers of Arkansas, all the time singing Hattie Caraway's praises. "Think of it, my friends!" Long told one cheering rally. "In 1930 there were 540 men in Wall Street who made $100,000,000 more than all the wheat farmers and all the cotton farmers and all the cane farmers of this country put together." "And you people," the homespun Long added, "wonder why your belly's flat up against; your backbone!"(2) On Election Day, Hattie Caraway pulled a political miracle. She won her Senate bid, receiving more votes than the other six candidates combined. In 1932, such was the power and the reach of Huey P. Long. Today, we remember Huey Long, if we remember him at all, as a rustic eccentric, the root of a Louisiana political dynasty, a colorful political clown who never missed a parade, a dark, evil force whose strong-arm tactics as governor helped earned him the label as "the most dangerous man in America." What's been forgotten is what Huey Long had to say and the political significance of his immense popularity. For a brief few years, Long led the most popular campaign against rich people in American history. Huey Long, a critical biographer noted years ago, "dared put his fingers into the real ulcer of social evil in American life," the inequitable distribution of wealth.(3) And he spoke a political language Depression America could understand. "Unless you redistribute the wealth of a country into the hands of the people every fifty years, your country's got to go to ruination," Long warned. "Too many men running things that think they're smarter than the Lord."(4) Most Americans found Long's analysis of the Depression eminently sensible. "There's too much concentration of wealth among a few people," Long noted in one 1932 interview.(5) "Now as long as the government permits the pilin' up of huge individual fortunes, which is expressly forbidden in Leviticus, we are goin' to have crime and spoilin' and trouble," he added in another.(6) In 1932, on the floor of the United States Senate, Long proposed that the tax laws "be so revamped that no one man should be allowed to have an income of more than one million dollars a year" and that "no one person should inherit in a lifetime more than five million dollars withoutworking for it."(7) "What is a man going to do with more than $1,000,000?" Long asked his Senate colleagues.(8) "If we could distribute this surplus wealth, while leaving these rich people all the luxuries they can possibly use, what a different world this would be."(9) Long's resolution received only a handful of Senate votes, but people-and politicians-took notice. In the 1932 Presidential campaign, Franklin Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover both echoed Long's egalitarian message. FDR, accepting the Democratic nomination, announced that Americans "look to us for guidance and for a more equitable opportunity to share in the distribution of the national wealth."(10) Hoover told a campaign rally in New York's Madison Square Garden that he longed for an America "where wealth is not concentrated in the hands of a few, but diffused among the lives of all" (11) One month after FDR's election, Long reintroduced his Senate resolution. This time, his proposal to cap wealth and income received 20 yeas.(12) The "Long Plan" that the senator from Louisiana put before the Senate and the American people was to go through several variations. But the basics always remained (constant: a ceiling on the income and wealth of the very rich that would create a floor of decency for everyone else. One early version of the plan proposed a 1 percent tax on all individual wealth between $1 million and $2 million, with that tax rate progressively increasing until it reached 100 percent on all fortunes over $100 million. The effect, said Long, would limit "the size of any one
[CTRL] TC's 25th aniversary.
-Caveat Lector- TOASTS TO TRILATERAL COMMISSION FOUNDER AND HONORARY CHAIRMAN DAVID ROCKEFELLER on the occasion of the U.S. Group's 25th Anniversary Evening December 1, 1998 GEORGES BERTHOIN Former European Chairman, The Trilateral Commission So, happy birthday, Trilateral Commission! Thank you, David, for having been such a thoughtful and vigilant father. To both, I want to convey the good wishes, congratulations, and gratitude of your European colleagues. Twenty-five years ago, David, you gathered around your avant-garde idea, with Zbig Brzezinski and George Franklin, a group of creative thinkers, open-minded business and trade-union leaders, and forward-looking politicians. Before it became, as it is today, an accepted, even if more and more complex, fact of international life, all of them -- all of us -- recognized the importance of creating between Japan, North America, and Europe a joint awareness of our responsibilities for the well-being of the world. This recognition went beyond mere statistics to the affirmation, illustration, and spreading of democratic principles. We Europeans, in spite of our extreme internal diversities or, maybe, because of them, felt quite comfortable within this trilateral relationship. We found again, after so many tragic events, the way to renew our traditional contacts with Japan without weakening our respective bilateral relations with the United States of America. We learned how to place our historical and special links with Canada in the modern context of the North American concept while being made aware of the specificities of its components. As we enlarged our European Community, we were challenged and encouraged to find a new legitimacy in becoming, through our new common institutions, a responsible world actor, but this time, after the curse of two world wars, without nationalistic and imperial undertones. Finally, all of us found, in a practical way, how to create a partnership of equals between our different and respective strengths and weaknesses. In fact, we tried to create a trilateral harmony between the roots of our cultural identities, the dynamic creativity of the profit motive, and the democratic representation of the common good. All of us, we made a difference, a huge difference. We did not look for the kind of glamour which excites television commentators. But, through our reports, discussions, and meetings and through our patient and constant recognition of what is desirable for all and possible for each, we were able to exert some influence without trespassing on the power of those duly elected to govern. So, in our own independent way, we, among others, made a contribution to the end of the Cold War, and to the preparation of the new world which is cracking its way through routines, conservatisms, and fears. We know, for sure now, that the future will involve more than the three corners of our triangle. Technology has abolished time and space as the traditional basis of governance. A new form has to emerge and with more actors. The qualities of innovation we demonstrated for the last twenty-five years are challenged again. The moment is coming when it will be clear to all, in particular to us-friends and members of the Trilateral Commission -- that the best, maybe the only, way to defend the interests, traditions, and hopes we cherish will be to place them resolutely within the context offered by the disciplines and opportunities of a genuine world order, genuine because created and recognized by all as fair and legitimate. The first global history of mankind is about to start. A new window is opening. The challenge is clear. In 1973, David, with your sense of vision, your determination and all your friends, the challenge was understood and met with success. Today, under the leadership of our successors as Co-Chairmen, Paul Volcker, Yotaro Kobayashi, and Otto Lambsdorff, the Trilateral Commission shows the will to play its usual role as reasonable and perspicacious avant-garde. So I would like to include in the toast I am about to propose to you, a toast to the Trilateral Commission's role for the next twenty-five years. In this spirit, Ladies and Gentlemen, I would be grateful if you would join me in raising your glass to the gentleman-pioneer of the trilateral world, David Rockefeller. SHIJURO OGATA Japanese Deputy Chairman, The Trilateral Commission On behalf of the Japanese group of the Trilateral Commission I would like to express our sincere gratitude to David Rockefeller for his farsightedness and leadership without which Japan could not have been brought into the international community easily. More than twenty-five years ago David had considered already Japan as a natural partner in the developed world with democracy and a market economy. As he
[CTRL] IMF Team To Visit Moscow Next Week
-Caveat Lector- IMF Team To Visit Moscow Next Week MOSCOW (AP) -- An International Monetary Fund mission will arrive in Moscow next week for extended talks about Russia's economic woes and the possibility of resuming aid. The delegation is expected to arrive next Wednesday and stay until Feb. 5 or Feb. 8, the Interfax news agency reported. The IMF's chief representative in Moscow couldn't immediately be reached for comment. The visit will be longer than usual because the group will also be preparing its annual report on Russia's economic performance, Interfax said. Russia desperately wants IMF loans, but at the same time accuses the fund of doling out bad financial advice along with its money. Russian officials blame the IMF for the nation's economic turmoil. Russia's Finance Minister Mikhail Zadornov refused to speculate Wednesday on when Russia may get more IMF money, but said the government wanted it ``the sooner the better.'' A $22.6 billion aid package for Russia put together by the IMF this summer was frozen after the government defaulted on some of its debts and devalued the currency in August. Since then, the IMF has been demanding a sound economic recovery program as a condition for resuming aid. Russia's coffers are so bare that the national budget for this year is only $26 billion -- less than what the U.S. government spends in a typical week. Meanwhile, Russia faces $17.5 billion in foreign debt payments this year. The government said Tuesday that it planned to pay just $4.6 billion of the total. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Machine' Crafted Out of DNA
-Caveat Lector- 'Machine' Crafted Out of DNA By RICK CALLAHAN Associated Press Writer Scientists have made a moving part out of a few strands of DNA, a step toward building incredibly tiny "machines" that could someday perform intricate jobs like building computer circuits and clearing clogged blood vessels in the brain. The hinge-like part, which bends on cue, is just four-ten-thousandths of the width of a human hair. The new work isn't the first time scientists have turned chemical compounds into moving parts. But previous examples have been hampered by their floppy nature. The DNA device, however, is particularly rigid and executes motions 10 times bigger, lead researcher Nadrian C. Seeman said. The device was made by joining two double-stranded DNA spirals with a bridge of DNA. When it's exposed to a particular chemical solution, part of the structure bends. The findings were reported in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature by Seeman and colleagues at New York University. The team hopes to eventually build other moving parts using DNA, including "arms" and "fingers" that someday could be mounted on a micro-robot. The work is the latest twist in the fledgling field of nanotechnology, or technology at an atomic scale. "This is a very beautiful demonstration of construction at that scale of a device that's actually functioning," said Daniel T. Colbert of Rice University's Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology. However, Colbert said scientists are still decades away from creating any useful machines in nanotechnology. "We're kind of in the children's playtime toddler era of doing this. We've been thrown some blocks and Legos and Tinker Toys," he said. "We're just kind of picking them up and trying to assemble things out of them that can perform something useful." K. Eric Drexler of the Institute for Molecular Manufacturing in Los Altos, Calif., agreed that Seeman's device is too cumbersome to be useful. But he said further development may lead to a practical device. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Rehnquist Struts Latest Style In Judicial Robes]
-Caveat Lector- Robert Tatman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Why has Judge Rehnquist changed the style of his judicial robes? You tell me. My understanding is that Rehnquist is a devout Gilbert-and-Sullivan fan. A friend of his recently appeared in a production of "Trial by Jury" wearing robes with cute gold stripes on the shoulders, and the Chief Justice was struck by a bad case of sartorial envy... Well, it makes as much sense as anything else in this through-the-looking-glass year... Bob There has been some discussion among law researchers that indicates that the gold fringe on the US flag indicates martial law rule. If you recall the old westerns when the US cavalry showed up they all had gold braids on the trumpet, flag, and on the shoulders. We know for certain that they were under martial law, for the federal government was governing the territories directly previous to them entering as states. I don't know what kind of robe Rehnquist is wearing. Could someone describe it and the diffences between it and his normal robe? It may be that the robes they normally wear signify a different venue then what is taking place now. Venue is very important. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mysterious Spraying Update
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:14:07 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Cox) Subject:IUFO: Fwd: Mysterious Spraying Update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - IUFO Mailing List Begin Forwarded Message From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mysterious Spraying Update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MYSTERIOUS SPAYING SAID TO BE SECRET-MILITARY OPERATION The Environmental News Service (http://www.ens.lycos.com) has a follow-up to their report about multiple sightings around the U.S. of massive grid-work patterns in the sky being created by fleets of jets that fly back and forth and spray down a material that seems to make people ill. (see http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html) In their follow-up [1], ENS interviews Thomas Farmer, an ex-Raytheon Missile Systems engineer who's been tracking the mysterious spraying incidents for over a year. Farmer has confirmed that jets used to spray are Air Force jets, and he's made several collections of the cobweb-like, or "angel hair," material the jets are spraying out, which made him, just like many others, sick after contact. It appears to be a substance used to seed (build) clouds. ENS reports that Farmer is "fairly certain the contrail phenomena is one part of a military weather modification weapons system." The ENS report then observes that a sub- set of the military plan to use weather as a weapon and create a "Weather Force," is massive cloud-seeding that will work in with the HAARP antenna in Alaska, which is the U.S. military's primary weather-weapons system, which can exert effects on locations across the earth. The openly-stated goal for the U.S. military is to "own the weather" [2] by year 2025 and to thereby be able to bring target populations to their knees by "storm enhancement," "storm modification," and being able to "induce drought." [1] So rather than natural laws of solar-heating and earth-rotation directing the weather, the weather will be determined by who is pleasing or displeasing our military masters, or then again, perhaps power does not really corrupt. A U.S. military webpage [3] states that weather modification by the military is intended to allow for "storm triggering/enhancement using airborne cloud seeding." That military webpage also says: "A global network of sensors provides 'weather warriors' with the means to monitor and accurately predict weather activities and their effects on military operations. A diverse set of weather modification tools allows manipulation of small- to-medium scale weather phenomena to enhance friendly force capabilities and degrade those of the adversary. Many of the sensors required for this system are assumed to be...part of the global information management system (GIMS)..." Apart from allowing for an Orwellian-weather tyranny, military-weather control could lead to environmental catastrophe, since the desire to exert control will conflict with and overpower rational environment con- siderations, particularly if control is directed under the cover of military secrecy. Deliberate large-scale modification of the weather must be the most dangerous thing we could do to our planet, and it appears that military-weather-control planning is being done in secret, outside the realm of democratic oversight, just where it needs to be for the worst outcomes! __ [1] Read The Full Environmental News Service Report "Mystery Contrails May Be Modifying Weather" (1/12/99): http://www.ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-12-01.html [2] Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025: http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/acsc/96-025ag.htm [3] Military Weather Analysis and Modification System: http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume4/chap03/b9_2.htm After my first message on this topic one person replied saying the grid pattern of contrails appeared in their area in Idaho and 13 people (mostly old) died shortly there after. Another person responded saying they've seen unique grid-work contrail patterns in Georgia. _ Web Pages On The HAARP Weather-Weapon System: NEXUS article on HAARP: "Vandalism in the Sky" http://www.earthpulse.com/haarp/vandalism.html And at: http://www.icom.net/~nexus/HAARP.html . http://www.haarp.com http://www.xyz.net/~nohaarp/pandora.htm http://www.relaypoint.net/~patriot/haarp1.htm Cloud Seeding Weather Modification Pages: http://www.tecom.army.mil/tts/1997/proceed/abarnes/sld004.htm http://rams.atmos.colostate.edu/gkss.html http://ae.atmos.uah.edu/AE/ams_97a.html http://www.atmos-inc.com/weamod.html http://www.dri.edu/ASC/WxMod/HomePage.html http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/saas/coble_bb.htm http://www.wmi.cban.com
[CTRL] Elizabeth Is Complicated
-Caveat Lector- "ELIZABETH" IS COMPLICATED == (CNNS, 01/13/99) -- Viewed in a complicated town, at a simple theater, the movie "Elizabeth" is complex and simple -- both -- at the same time. The complicated town where this editor saw the film is Champaign, Illinois. The simple theater which presented the film is The Art Theater, a refreshingly non-corporate venue. Like the town and the venue, the film "Elizabeth" operates at more than one level. On one level it is meat-and-potatoes feminist propaganda. On another level, it is heart-wrenching art, a powerful story of how one woman sacrifices herself for her country. The Art Theater did not show Macaroni Cheese advertisements just before showing the film itself. They did show a preview of a coming attraction. The venue thereby enforced the theme: both simplicity and complexity. On the simple level, the film indoctrinates its viewers with feminist propaganda, by means of SUBTEXT. We see young Elizabeth, newly crowned queen of a tottering empire, additionally handicapped by the (yawn) "evil males" and "evil patriarchy" which surround her. (As Glaucon stated in a recent CNNS press release, "Look to where no eyes look." All eyes look for SUBLIMINALS but no eyes look for SUBTEXT.) The laconic form of this editor could be seen stretched out in the theater, absorbing the subtextual onslaught of feminist propaganda. But after the first hour the film moved into much deeper territory and achieved greatness in mythology, if not greatness in fact. The character of Queen Elizabeth I becomes powerfully heroic in the final hour of the film, "Elizabeth." The only question is one of historical accuracy; the myth created by the film is potent, but is it factual? Young Elizabeth begins as a merry maid, expressing the best instincts of the human heart. She is Heart, elevated to queenship, and refusing to surrender at first to the dirty realities of politics. But ongoing conspiracies against her slowly loom in the film, and become the catharsis which propels her, in the end, to sacrifice her personal humanity to "national security." She surrenders and subsumes her humanity into an identification with the State. Elizabeth, in the end, is the State; and the State, in the end, is Elizabeth. Elizabeth symbolically gives her life for the good of the People whom she loves. The film reverts back to the simple when it contrasts the lovable, innocent, young Elizabeth with her arch-enemy, the Pope. Elizabeth is young (subtext: good); the Pope is old (subtext: bad.) But in the exact same frames a complexity exists: we see how the Pope implements the Catholic machinery of assassination; the Holy Father does not exactly order that Elizabeth be assassinated, rather, he lets it be known that any Catholic who happens to murder her will be rewarded in Heaven. "Oh, by the way, the Pope has determined that any Catholic who murders Elizabeth will be sanctified in Heaven."This Papal assassination machinery occurs later in history, when Pope Pius IX tacitly approved any assassination of Abraham Lincoln. (See hard-to-find books: "Fifty Years In The Church Of Rome," by Rev. Charles Chiniquy; "Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln," by Burke McCarty.) P.D. Ouspensky, the great Russian philosopher, said that "art is the language of the 4th-dimension." The nature of true art does not allow 3-dimensional analysis. Art speaks to something higher than intellectual pigeon-holes, which is why academics never succeed when they try to systematize it. (But they keep trying.) The Beatniks had an apt term -- "Squares" -- which suggests the vain attempts of 3-dimensional thought to comprehend something beyond its domain. "Yes. But is it Art?" The movie "Elizabeth," despite its propagandizing and its doubted historical authenticity, manages to connect with the higher realms. It is powerful, ultimately beyond analysis, and so yes, it is Art. And of course, that's obvious: it was shown at The Art Theater. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. Brian Redman |
[CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
-Caveat Lector- .Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true a) champion of the 1st Amendment b) and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right. === There are 3 functions Natural functions like taking a ... Instincts that all animals have Thought... which only humans have. Speech is the exchange of thoughts between humans. Visual, audio, smell ... sex stimulates have nothing with speech or the thought process, they are raw animal instincts. If sexual stimulation is speech, then when can we expect dogs and pigs have the right to vote? a) Flint is not a champion of free speech, he is a fat bitter old man who got rich giving men errections. He is a pathetic grease ball with all that wealth and all those women around him, he is paralized from the waist down ... ah, true justice. b) As for hypocricy, Flint is the king of hypocrites while he pushes to expose evil hypocrite politician, he does not expose the democrat hypocrites. While he strikes out against the hypocrite christians, his purpose of attack is to protect the "christian" hypocrite clinton. All he says about republicans and more may well be true, but there is nothing he exposes about republicans that is not true about democrats. For all democratic stooges who ralley for Flint, bring your own mothers and daughters, Flint has a pop bottle you can use to stick up them as his photographers zoom in on the shot. Anyone who finds any merit in Flynt is indeed a sleazeball themselves. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Newsweek Plugs Ruddy!
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: newsmax [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a post-only mailing. Please DO NOT respond to this message. *** http://www.newsmax.com For Immediate ReleaseJanuary 13, 1999 Contact: Sandy 516-326-0337 http://www.newsmax.com News Alert from NewsMax.com Newsweek Names Ruddy a "Star of the New News" Newsweek's cover story this week -- "20 Stars of the New News" -- names NewsMax.com founder and editor Christopher Ruddy as one of America's top 20 media personalities who "are changing how Americans get their news." Newsweek calls Ruddy one of the "titans of 'tude" who are "breaking the old media mold." Newsweek columnist Jonathan Alter says the new media people are creating "a new information order." "'News,'"Alter writes, "now comes from a thousand mouths - from Meredith Vieira or Chris Ruddy or some caller on the line named Mike. The old media food chain has been shattered." Newsweek excerpt follows: Christopher Ruddy Best known for "exposes" on Vince Foster's death and the supposed murder of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, Ruddy is a favorite of conservative financier Richard Mellon Scaife - and a charter member of Hillary's famous "vast right wing conspiracy." The dirt-digger has also expanded his network, conveying skullduggery updates to Clinton haters everywhere via Web site newsmax.com and his own newsletter. -30- *** If you do not wish to be placed on the NewsMax email list, reply to this message with email and type the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the first line of BODY copy, or send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the NewsMax email list, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more information, address your inquiries to the list manager at the email address show below: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Video Finder, Free Catalogs, Links, Sweepstakes, What-Not: http://www.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Torture in Israel - MER FlashBack
-Caveat Lector- Any credibility here? AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. -- From: MER FlashBack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Torture in Israel - MER FlashBack Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:53 PM - ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ F L A S H B A C K http://www.MiddleEast.Org T O R T U R E I N I S R A E L ___ TO RECEIVE MER REGULARLY EMAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know. ___ MER FLASHBACK - 3rd Week January 1997: ISRAELI TORTURE IS SYSTEMATIC AND "LEGAL" [MER - Torture of Palestinians is not only routine and systematic, in it actually sanctioned by the Israeli legal system that has been twisted to serve Israeli policies. Going back to the Shinbet scandal of the early 1980's, even more sadistic forms of torture have given way to the kinds of 'legalized' torture methods outlined in this important article from one of the few independent and courageous media sources in Israel, The Alternative Information Center (AIC). Among the reasons the Israelis get away with such systematic torture of Palestinians is that hardly anyone is willing to protest. The so- called "Palestinian Authority" practices similar and even worse torture techniques, as do nearly all of the Arab governments in the region -- so they are hardly in a position to protest. And the "liberal" American Jewish community has been morally bankrupt about such issues for so long now that to speak up at this point would be to condemn themselves for permitting, and even encouraging in many cases, such Nazi-like behavior by the Israelis for decades.] ISRAELI JUSTICE ON TORTURE A Shining Light Unto Nations? "The entire Israeli establishment countenances torture..." First, his head is covered with a thick rancid sack. Its difficult to breathe. Handcuffed, he is bound in a twisted position to a kindergarten chair with hardly any back support and held there for four days straight. Every time his head falls when sleep overcomes him, he is slapped on his face to wake up. Maybe on the fifth day the handcuffs are removed and he is allowed to sleep in a tiny windowless cell. Music is blaring in the cell around the clock. It is difficult to sleep with noise and the constant glare of the shining fluorescent light. On the sixth or seventh day, his head is covered again with the rancid sack, but this time, he is chained to a pole in the corridor and made to stand there for four more days. Or perhaps, he is handcuffed to a hook a meter from the ground and is forced to squat for three days; three days continuously that is. Or he is undressed and made to sit in front of a blasting air-conditioner for hours. There is no sleep. His hands are swollen from the tight handcuffs; he is vomiting from the prolonged contorted position he is held in. He smells, unshaven, he wants to sleep. This is moderate physical pressure under Israeli law and it is legal. Under international law this is torture and is completely prohibited at all times. This moderate physical pressure is routinely used by the Israeli secret police (GSS) to extract confessions from Palestinian detainees under interrogation. The UN Convention Against Torture, of which Israel is a signatory, states that the use of any physical or psychological pressure which causes pain or humiliation is absolutely prohibited at all times. What constitutes torture and degrading treatment is subjective -- determined by the victims sensation of the physical and mental pain caused to him. Sitting in front of cold air may not on its face compare to torture methods like electric shock, but after two weeks of little sleep and sitting in contorted positions, undressed in the middle of the rainy winter, 12 hours of the air conditioner feels like hell. One detainee described it as putting the air in a state of war with me.
[CTRL] Mysterious Spraying Update (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:22:14 -0500 From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mysterious Spraying Update MYSTERIOUS SPAYING SAID TO BE SECRET-MILITARY OPERATION The Environmental News Service (http://www.ens.lycos.com) has a follow-up to their report about multiple sightings around the U.S. of massive grid-work patterns in the sky being created by fleets of jets that fly back and forth and spray down a material that seems to make people ill. (see http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html) In their follow-up [1], ENS interviews Thomas Farmer, an ex-Raytheon Missile Systems engineer who's been tracking the mysterious spraying incidents for over a year. Farmer has confirmed that jets used to spray are Air Force jets, and he's made several collections of the cobweb-like, or "angel hair," material the jets are spraying out, which made him, just like many others, sick after contact. It appears to be a substance used to seed (build) clouds. ENS reports that Farmer is "fairly certain the contrail phenomena is one part of a military weather modification weapons system." The ENS report then observes that a sub- set of the military plan to use weather as a weapon and create a "Weather Force," is massive cloud-seeding that will work in with the HAARP antenna in Alaska, which is the U.S. military's primary weather-weapons system, which can exert effects on locations across the earth. The openly-stated goal for the U.S. military is to "own the weather" [2] by year 2025 and to thereby be able to bring target populations to their knees by "storm enhancement," "storm modification," and being able to "induce drought." [1] So rather than natural laws of solar-heating and earth-rotation directing the weather, the weather will be determined by who is pleasing or displeasing our military masters, or then again, perhaps power does not really corrupt. A U.S. military webpage [3] states that weather modification by the military is intended to allow for "storm triggering/enhancement using airborne cloud seeding." That military webpage also says: "A global network of sensors provides 'weather warriors' with the means to monitor and accurately predict weather activities and their effects on military operations. A diverse set of weather modification tools allows manipulation of small- to-medium scale weather phenomena to enhance friendly force capabilities and degrade those of the adversary. Many of the sensors required for this system are assumed to be...part of the global information management system (GIMS)..." Apart from allowing for an Orwellian-weather tyranny, military-weather control could lead to environmental catastrophe, since the desire to exert control will conflict with and overpower rational environment con- siderations, particularly if control is directed under the cover of military secrecy. Deliberate large-scale modification of the weather must be the most dangerous thing we could do to our planet, and it appears that military-weather-control planning is being done in secret, outside the realm of democratic oversight, just where it needs to be for the worst outcomes! __ [1] Read The Full Environmental News Service Report "Mystery Contrails May Be Modifying Weather" (1/12/99): http://www.ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-12-01.html [2] Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025: http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/acsc/96-025ag.htm [3] Military Weather Analysis and Modification System: http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume4/chap03/b9_2.htm After my first message on this topic one person replied saying the grid pattern of contrails appeared in their area in Idaho and 13 people (mostly old) died shortly there after. Another person responded saying they've seen unique grid-work contrail patterns in Georgia. _ Web Pages On The HAARP Weather-Weapon System: NEXUS article on HAARP: "Vandalism in the Sky" http://www.earthpulse.com/haarp/vandalism.html And at: http://www.icom.net/~nexus/HAARP.html . http://www.haarp.com http://www.xyz.net/~nohaarp/pandora.htm http://www.relaypoint.net/~patriot/haarp1.htm Cloud Seeding Weather Modification Pages: http://www.tecom.army.mil/tts/1997/proceed/abarnes/sld004.htm http://rams.atmos.colostate.edu/gkss.html http://ae.atmos.uah.edu/AE/ams_97a.html http://www.atmos-inc.com/weamod.html http://www.dri.edu/ASC/WxMod/HomePage.html http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/saas/coble_bb.htm http://www.wmi.cban.com http://earth.agu.org/revgeophys/czys01/czys01.html ___ IAN GODDARD'S ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN JOURNAL --- http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm - the critics are raving - "Shouldn't this be expunged?...[since] it is spreading
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- At 09:13 PM 1/12/99 EST, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- ...Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true champion of the 1st Amendment and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right. Cheers to Larry! Keep up the fight! Alright, close yer rain coat back up. Larry Flint doesn't give a rat's ass about the first amendment. What? Freedom of speech? Of the Press? Freedom of Religion? Freedom to assemble? This is nothing more than a radical left-wing extremist's plot to apply pressure to subvert free political speech by extortion, and to undermine the Constitutional process. A weak plot at that. Flynt is nothing more than a friggin' crippled pervert. But then again so is Klinton. :) Larry Flynt is a Prime example of hypocrisy on the left. How could he possibly be a "true champion" of anything? Amazing all the pondscum friends Klinton has ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NSA Bans Furbies
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Jesus Christ people The NSA didn't ban it from the country or even stop its employees from owning one. It just stopped its employees from bringing them into the building due to the fact that classified material is discussed and could be repeated by the Furby. Ah, but, my friend: Are you aware that the Furby is manufactured in RED CHINA!? Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Flynt: Lefties Hero and Child Porno King
-Caveat Lector- Have you ever really seen Hustler? By Judith Reisman © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Until the current Flynt media-hype, few Americans had ever seen the Flynt flagship publication in which he vents his barbaric brand of graphic violence-and-sex. Who is the man who now "terrorizes" Congress? I have really seen Flynt and his sadistic imagery and fantasy having been charged by the U.S. Department of Justice (DoJ) Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, to direct a two-year content analysis of Images of Children, Crime and Violence in Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler (1953-1984).1 Our study documented each issue of Hustler averaging 14.1 children and pseudo-children alongside 47 images of crime and violence; 52 percent of child photos were sexually explicit and most cartooned children were sexually violated. Flynt regularly presents a volatile co-mingling of images of sex, violence, scatological degradation, fear and horror. Seen routinely are blood-dripping-mutilated hands, arms, heads, breasts and penises, often gutted, decapitated, castrated and satanically murdered and cannibalized, racist and occult images dominate the "magazine." December 1978, Hustler published photographs of naked children as young as three-years of age in sex scenes alongside an article, "Children, Sex and Society," advocating an end to age of consent, calling for acceptance of adult-child sex, and legalization of incest. Hustler is not for those challenged by human compassion. For example, in: February 1975 in an article entitled "Adolescent Fantasy" an uncle is photographed sexually with his niece; October 1976 a naked girl scout is photographed soliciting sex in August 1981, a nude young girl, photographed with her dollies, saying to the viewer; "You would be surprised what a 'little girl can do. ..." Recurrent cartoon and composite photo themes picturing blood-soaked castration are seen in the reality of child rape and mutilation. In October 26, 1990 a nine-year-old boy in Norman, Oklahoma was raped, his penis cut off and eye gouged out causing Hustler to be removed from local stores -- where a current Hustler depicted a young boy similarly tortured. Flynt's "Chester the Molester" cartoon character in March 1977, lay in wait under a playground slide for a child to sexually assault. In October 1977 the kidnapping and torturing three girls about 4-years old is depicted; while in February 1979, a car, with "Just Married" is shown driving away, with blood-drenched, aborted babies tied to the bumper. So much for fantasy! The May 1984 Hustler cartoon of a father sexually abusing his daughter helped convict Hustler editorial cartoon director, Dwaine Tinsely, in real life, of felony child sexual abuse of his own daughter in 1989. He gave her birth control pills at age thirteen, drugged her and sexually abused her until age eighteen, when she became a suicidal drug addict. Tinsley alone had contributed 145 Hustler cartoons of violent child kidnapping and rape. The FBI Uniform Crime Rate from 1972-1991 found a 128% increase in reported rapes,2 with both offenders and victims increasingly younger. The Reader's Digest commented on the troubling FBI data, saying, "It could be concluded that some force impelling toward sex crime has been operating on younger males in the United States." In reality, the abusive Hustler cartoons commonly exhibit the coarse "humor" which defines the present White House scandal. To this trained eye, the predatory "force impelling" the president toward a powerless White House intern is reminiscent of Hustler's ongoing themes of deceit, manipulation, degradation and fantasy. 1.The peer-approved study required researchers to examine each page of every magazine (126) from Hustler's 1974 inception to 1984 which, in 1983, reached over four million consumers, numerically on a par with Psychology Today readership. 2.See Emilie Buchwald, et al., Transforming A Rape Culture, (1993) Milkweed, Minneapolis, MN., p. 7. and Judith Reisman, "SoftPorn" Plays Hardball (1991). Huntington House, Lafayette, LA., (1991) p. 15. Dr. Judith Reisman is author of 'Kinsey: Crimes Consequences.' --- "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any public official, save exactly to the degree he himself stands by the country." -Theodore Roosevelt ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of
[CTRL] Texas - psych exams for teens who listen to - (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- URGENT ACTION NEEDED! Texas "Crime Prevention" Group Calls for HOSPITALIZATION of Fans of Marilyn Manson, Gothic Music, and Death Metal Music by Todd Wiese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research by John Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember all that old black and white stock film footage from the fifties of rabid law makers and religious leaders screaming about the evils of rock music? "Rock and Roll has GOT to go!!" And, SMASH goes the record as he slams it on the desk. Remember that? Remember how we all thought that type of idiotic behavior could never happen in America again? Well, guess again. "What some are calling a flash-back to Nazi Germany is happening right now in Fort Worth, Texas. A group receiving taxpayer money in the form of grants and calling itself the Crime Prevention Resource Center CPRC, a spin off of the Fort Worth Chamber of Commerce's "Code Blue Crime Prevention Project", is on a campaign to get school officials and teachers to closely monitor students who happen to be fans of Marilyn Manson or other "gothic" or "death-metal" music. According to a pamphlet handed out at the meetings called, "What A Parent Can Do", this "monitoring" includes searching students' lockers, interrogating fellow students about Manson fans' activities, researching what information the Manson "followers" look up on the Internet, examining their art work, and even finding out what books they check out from the library! When a student is confirmed to be a Manson or gothic fan, the group urges parents to "consider hospitalization for evaluation." Oh and yes, the group also recommends that parents, "never underestimate the power of prayer." The seminars were held during the weekend of December 4th and 5th at the CPRC's Fort Worth offices. About 70 participants paid $35.00 per person to atttend and represented a number of local police departments, Tarrant County School Districts, representatives from a nearby orphange, the Tarrant County Council on Drug and Alcohol Abuse and the Forth Worth Boys and Girls Club. However, NO PRESS REPRESENTATIVES were invited, and those that did show up on their own were not allowed to take photographs, nor were they permitted to take copies of pamphlets and other materials being made available to the other participants. H! What's wrong with this picture??? The meetings are run much like anti-Communist witch-hunting lynch mobs standing ready with pitchforks and torches in hand. The organizers rant and rave about the evils of Satanism and how just listening to Marilyn Manson "predisposes" your children to become violent. This according to De Lano Gilkey, one of the speakers, who is NOT a police officer, but who has a "counseling and law enforcement background" with an "emphasis on religion." Says, De Lano Gilkey, "I can sit there and listen to that music all day long and it's not going to affect me at all. But these kids, when they couple that with drug involvement, this just gives them the impetus they need to lead them to violence. You have to look where they're coming from. They have a belief system that isn't always straight like it should be." [Ed. note--Just how this man arrives at the arrogance to define what beliefs others must subscribe to is amazing.] Officer Buddy Evans, an Arlington Police Department school resource officer and speaker at the seminar said, "Most of these kids are on medication, most are mentally unstable and most are drug users." [Ed. note--The reference to medication in this statement is the pinnacle of hypocrisy as school administrations are the ones getting kids put on ritalin and other behavior modifying medications for the slightest hint of "behavioral problems", that often are merely kids expressing themselves or acting somewhat aggressively.] The CPRC even equates gothic rock fans and Marilyn Manson fans with gangs such as Bloods and Crips. "I'd rather my kid go to a school that has Crips and Bloods than one that has occultic gang members. The philosophy is anti-society, anti-police and anti-Christ," proclaims Ramon Jacquez, the CPRC's director. "There is no difference between [such a fan] and a Crips gang member." Note that by making this statement, Mr. Jacquez is basically saying that subscribing to a philosophy that is rebellious against the establishment is no different from committing the criminal acts of violence associated with organized gangs--quite a drastic stretch in logic, in our opinion, and one with serious ramifications for freedom of thought for individuals. The organizers of the two-day seminars even suggest that school officials "consider the possibility of parental involvement in the occult." And if those parents continue to let their kids wear Manson t-shirts or black clothes and let them keep listening to "occult" music, they then suggest that the school contact Child Protective Services. A Spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union, Don Jackson, reacted to one of the meetings by calling it "disturbing".
[CTRL] NEA and AFT
-Caveat Lector- AMERICA's TEACHER UNIONS Molding Our Children into World Citizens for the New World Order "Among the elementary measures the American Soviet government will adopt to further the cultural revolution are...[a] National Department of Education...the studies will be revolutionized, being cleansed of religious, patriotic, and other features of the bourgeois ideology. The students will be taught the basis of Marxian dialectical materialism, internationalism and the general ethics of the new Socialist society." - William Z. Foster, Toward Soviet America, 1932 National Chairman of the American Communist Party (1933-44, 1945-57) "Children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming where everyone is interdependent." -John Dewey, 1899, our "father" of education -- Many non-governmental organizations have been influential in the orgy of spending tax money to corrupt education, for their selfish interests, while claiming the pure motive of helping our children acquire quality education. The two most powerful of these are the American Federation of Teachers(AFT) and the National Education Association(NEA). The American Federation of Teachers was organized in 1916. From the beginning it has been a militant, Marxist organization, using force, politics, pressure, and propaganda to gain control over teachers and thus build power for itself. The AFT never did achieve a large national membership. Its strength has always been concentrated in a few eastern cities - mainly, New York City. But the AFT influence on public education in the U.S. has been enormous, for two political reasons: first, during the critical period of the 1930s, such people as John Dewey and Norman Thomas were members of the AFT; and second, rivalry between the AFT and the NEA helped induce the NEA to adopt the socialist tactics of the AFT. The National Education Association was organized in 1862. In 1906, Congress conferred upon it a federal charter, to work as a professional organization in the field of education. For a long time, the NEA did operate as a professional group, publishing information helpful to classroom teachers, trying to improve the quality of teachers and of teaching in public schools. But by the mid-1930s, the NEA - like its rival, the AFT - was militant and Marxist. The NEA became the foremost leader of the drive that was begun by John Dewey educationists in the American Federation of Teachers - the drive to create "an educational program for a socialist America," which would be governed by an elite of professional educator-politicians. By the 1960s the NEA had a stranglehold on American public education. Today, NEA officials hold so many key positions in the Department of Education that the NEA practically runs that federal agency, which dispenses billions of tax dollars. NEA influence on Congress, the Supreme Court, and local state senators and assemblymen is also powerful. The NEA works with monopolistic unions, huge tax-exempt foundations, racial-agitation organizations, the National Council of Churches, and similar groups, lobbying for court decisions and big-spending federal and state programs. For years, the NEA pretended that it was not a union, and claimed to be opposed to teacher strikes. The NEA's malign influence and political pressures on elected officials can never be fully measured, but can be indicated by the words of its own spokesmen. In 1970, NEA President George Fischer said: "We will put the fear of God in politicians all over the country. We plan to make it political suicide to vote against kids and educations." And so it came to be. One irony in all this is that the NEA's political lobbying is an open and direct violation of the federal tax law which gives it tax exemption. The Internal Revenue Service has never revoked that tax exemption. Today, we have created the most extensive and expensive educational system that has ever existed in the history of the world. Yet, it graduates thousands of young people who cannot spell, write a correct sentence, work a simple arithmetic problem, or read with understanding. They have no worthwhile skills. They do not even know the alphabet well enough to work effectively as file clerks. The present American educational system has left a generation of Americans largely ignorant of the moral, economic, political, and spiritual principles on which the greatness of our nation is founded. It has brainwashed a generation of Americans into accepting the illegal conversion of our Constitutional Republic into a tyrannical, inefficient socialist-welfare state. It scorns individual excellence and extols mass mediocrity. Can you really be sure your children won't come out any different? Many a person has supported federal aid to education because he thought that getting "federal money" to help pay for schools in his district would ease his local tax burden. The opposite has happened. As federal and
Re: [CTRL] DISPATCH # 114 -- the weekly newsletter of ParaScope
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 10:40:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I'm not degrading anyone, but where in the hell did you all (both North South) get your education? The slave issue was the tip of the iceburg. The war dealt with the south's hardships of the plantations economics compared to the rich North Industries. I'm glad the south has it's attitude which it got from the large amounts of Anglo-Saxon cultures/farmers primarly from Irl/ Scot lands. But no matter what, it was a lost war, simply due to the massive Industries resources the North had. As to these people who believe so strongly in a man who had "chronic acute syphilis" came up with the idea of a pure race, no lower intelligence and for "ONLY GERMANS"... Many do not know for example, His hate for Jews simply came from them picking on him when he was studing art. I just told a good friend of mine who has a baby on the way, "Each new born child carries within them the power to save our world or destroy it". So, perhaps people when it come to picking on others, becareful on what you say. It may destroy your race. Now with the pure race ideas. That was one hell of a lost cause... Why you may ask? It's called gene purity rule... When a species has within pure genes with no random sequences happening, nature takes over and forces that probability to occur. You are going to have lower intelligence like it or not. Mutations occure to advance a species. Oh yea, Hitler had stolen large amounts of philosophy from Existentialism which was sold to him from Neitz's Sister. In truth, what did the world expect from Germany? The country was dying because of sanctions from WW1... The people needed a leader, they didn't care if it was a madman. They wanted to survrive. Back in the 20's Our Government believed in a man named Goddard whom had the idea of a pure intelligent race... The exportation rate of newcomers into this country rose 300 percent! He used an IQ test in english on those who did not know english... All in all... How much of reality has been slandered and misconceived. How many consciences disturbed. How many Gods sacrificed?" -- Wasn't this originally a post to CTRL? I'm almost certain that I remember it. Just can't recall the author DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SECRET MILITARY Weather Mod OPERATION??!!
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 2:48 PM Subject: Mysterious Spraying Update MYSTERIOUS SPAYING SAID TO BE SECRET-MILITARY OPERATION The Environmental News Service (http://www.ens.lycos.com) has a follow-up to their report about multiple sightings around the U.S. of massive grid-work patterns in the sky being created by fleets of jets that fly back and forth and spray down a material that seems to make people ill. (see http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html) In their follow-up [1], ENS interviews Thomas Farmer, an ex-Raytheon Missile Systems engineer who's been tracking the mysterious spraying incidents for over a year. Farmer has confirmed that jets used to spray are Air Force jets, and he's made several collections of the cobweb-like, or "angel hair," material the jets are spraying out, which made him, just like many others, sick after contact. It appears to be a substance used to seed (build) clouds. ENS reports that Farmer is "fairly certain the contrail phenomena is one part of a military weather modification weapons system." The ENS report then observes that a sub- set of the military plan to use weather as a weapon and create a "Weather Force," is massive cloud-seeding that will work in with the HAARP antenna in Alaska, which is the U.S. military's primary weather-weapons system, which can exert effects on locations across the earth. The openly-stated goal for the U.S. military is to "own the weather" [2] by year 2025 and to thereby be able to bring target populations to their knees by "storm enhancement," "storm modification," and being able to "induce drought." [1] So rather than natural laws of solar-heating and earth-rotation directing the weather, the weather will be determined by who is pleasing or displeasing our military masters, or then again, perhaps power does not really corrupt. A U.S. military webpage [3] states that weather modification by the military is intended to allow for "storm triggering/enhancement using airborne cloud seeding." That military webpage also says: "A global network of sensors provides 'weather warriors' with the means to monitor and accurately predict weather activities and their effects on military operations. A diverse set of weather modification tools allows manipulation of small- to-medium scale weather phenomena to enhance friendly force capabilities and degrade those of the adversary. Many of the sensors required for this system are assumed to be...part of the global information management system (GIMS)..." Apart from allowing for an Orwellian-weather tyranny, military-weather control could lead to environmental catastrophe, since the desire to exert control will conflict with and overpower rational environment con- siderations, particularly if control is directed under the cover of military secrecy. Deliberate large-scale modification of the weather must be the most dangerous thing we could do to our planet, and it appears that military-weather-control planning is being done in secret, outside the realm of democratic oversight, just where it needs to be for the worst outcomes! __ [1] Read The Full Environmental News Service Report "Mystery Contrails May Be Modifying Weather" (1/12/99): http://www.ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-12-01.html [2] Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025: http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/acsc/96-025ag.htm [3] Military Weather Analysis and Modification System: http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume4/chap03/b9_2.htm After my first message on this topic one person replied saying the grid pattern of contrails appeared in their area in Idaho and 13 people (mostly old) died shortly there after. Another person responded saying they've seen unique grid-work contrail patterns in Georgia. _ Web Pages On The HAARP Weather-Weapon System: NEXUS article on HAARP: "Vandalism in the Sky" http://www.earthpulse.com/haarp/vandalism.html And at: http://www.icom.net/~nexus/HAARP.html . http://www.haarp.com http://www.xyz.net/~nohaarp/pandora.htm http://www.relaypoint.net/~patriot/haarp1.htm Cloud Seeding Weather Modification Pages: http://www.tecom.army.mil/tts/1997/proceed/abarnes/sld004.htm http://rams.atmos.colostate.edu/gkss.html http://ae.atmos.uah.edu/AE/ams_97a.html http://www.atmos-inc.com/weamod.html http://www.dri.edu/ASC/WxMod/HomePage.html http://www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/saas/coble_bb.htm http://www.wmi.cban.com http://earth.agu.org/revgeophys/czys01/czys01.html ___ IAN GODDARD'S ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN JOURNAL --- http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm - the critics are raving - "Shouldn't this be
[CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- From Reuters/Variety Tuesday January 12 7:30 PM ET Linda Tripp named year's worst-dressed woman By Arthur Spiegelman LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Calling her a ``sheepdog in drag,'' fashion gadfly Mr. Blackwell named tape-and-tell troublemaker Linda Tripp the worst dressed woman of 1998 Tuesday. The award adds a new wrinkle to the bad publicity Tripp has endured since giving Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr tapes she made of erstwhile best friend Monica Lewinsky talking about her affair with President Bill Clinton. But Mr. Blackwell, the no-first-name fashion designer whose annual worst-dressed list has become a Hollywood tradition, insisted at a news conference that his naming Tripp as poorly-clad public enemy number one was not political. ``This is not anything more than a fashion statement. Linda Tripp is a shaggy sheepdog in drag, the 'Starr' of her own 'Stylegate','' the fashion expert said as he unveiled his 39th annual list. Tripp, who has become the butt of talk show hosts and TV skits, ranked as a fashion disaster ahead of second placed Madonna, whom Blackwell dismissed as a ``glitzy gargoyle'' and a ''neo-Gothic fright,'' and third-placed Titanic movie star Kate Winslet, who Blackwell said should have sent her wardrobe down with the doomed ocean liner. Carmen Electra, the on-again, off-again wife of basketball ''bad boy'' Dennis Rodman, was fourth on the list, called ''fashion Viagra in heels'' by Mr Blackwell, whose own giant pinky ring and glittery diamond stick pin saying ``Big Mouth'' might not, themselves, rank as fashion classics. Singers Courtney Love and Mariah Carey were fifth and sixth on the list, respectively, with Love described as looking more like ``cold cuts and Spam'' than the ``Goddess of Glam.'' Blackwell dismissed Carey as ``shrinkwrapped cheesecake.'' Seventh and eighth were actresses Marisa Tomei and Sigourney Weaver. Of the latter, Blackwell said she was ``the high priestess of fashion pretense.'' He added, ``If you are looking for an 'Alien' call Sigourney.'' In ninth place was actress Sandra Bullock whom Blackwell dismissed as a ``Victorian lamp shade on the loose.'' In last place was ``ER'' star Alex Kingston. ``She mixed, she matched...she missed,'' Blackwell said. Blackwell said he did not put Monica Lewinsky on his list because ``I liked the way she looked at the beginning of all this -- with the large hats and that French look. But now she is slipping. She is beginning to look like a 'Valley Girl'.'' He praised first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton as having her own unique look and put her on his best-dressed list along with actresses Gwyneth Paltrow, Minnie Driver, Kim Basinger, Gloria Stuart, Roma Downey and Julia Roberts, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Sweden's Crown Princess Victoria and talk show queen Oprah Winfrey. Blackwell said picking his worst-dressed list this year was not easy. ``Trust me, it is not a pretty sight. It was a year that has seen an endless stream of couture catastrophes and fashion blasphemies...If I want to watch out-of-control dinosaurs, I'll check out Congress.'' Reuters/Variety AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [CTRL] Understanding Republicans was something else]
-Caveat Lector- Michael: Sorry, I missed this earlier: MJ: Criminalization of drugs, prostitution, gambling, sodomy ... encouragement of prayer in the government schools, the government schools themselves ... "Criminalization of drugs (a wasted effort, apart from filling the coffers of criminals and politicians), prostitution, gambling, sodomy..." fall under the rubric of punishment of/for criminals. How is encouragement of prayer in schools considered social intervention? I'll need more here to continue in the vein of social intervention. MJ: How exactly does one who disapproves of the Government forcibly taking an arbitrary amount of earnings from an arbitrarily defined group and redistributing this plunder to another arbitrary group fall within the confines of 'social Darwinism'? Because those who proffer such an argument imply (by the use of emotives like "theft" and "plunder") that there is no need for a collection of just revenues for the maintenance of a society in which "a few (to be arbitrarily determined :-))" benefit disproportionately. Such arguments negate the need for a basic provision of services to those within a society who are incapable of fending for themselves. Such arguments, therefore, promote, by default, the social equivalent of the "natural laws" of survival of the fittest. The social extension of such an argument/philosophy is social Darwinism or naturalism. What you describe (haphazardly) as a Republican is NOT a Libertarian -- grouping them together is dishonest. Hardly: according to my experience (subjective at best, but never claimed to have been more than that), there is no practical difference between the philosophies of Republicans and Libertarians--apart from the stated possibility that Libertarians lean more in the direction of anarchy than fascism. In either case, to make such an assertion is not dishonest. Read their (Ls) web page (www.lp.org) and explain what it is that places them in the confines you attempt. My reading of the Ls is their desire to end ALL of the Government waste by restoring this Constitutional Republic to its plainly written restrictions. I am thoroughly aware of the ideological differences between the two, and were Libertarian philosophies congruent "in-practice" with their ideology, I would more than likely be Libertarian. As it is, however, I still contend that there is no practical difference between Republicans and Libertarians. What exactly does one have when an attempt is made to equate the abolition of theft ... with 'Social Darwinism'? The same that one has when one uses emotives like "theft" to describe the just collection, distribution and application of a portion of society's resources in order to maintain vital social infrastructure. If the left uses psychopolitics, they learned it from the right :-) Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector-
Okay, I'll bite. Biblical documentation (courtesy NIV) at
Matt 6 (esp 6:5) {long, I won't reproduce -- especially because of the
written word}
John 8:31ff: "To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold
to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth,
and the truth will set you free." They answered him, "We are Abraham's
descendants and have never been slaves on anyone. How can you say we shall
be set free?"
Acts 7:6ff: "G*d spoke to him {Abraham} in this way: 'Your descendants
will be strangers in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and
mistreated four hundred years. But I will punish the nation they serve as
slaves,' G*d said, 'and afterward they will come out of that country and
worship me in this place.' Then he gave Abraham the convenant of
circumcision. And Abraham became the father of Isaac and circumcised him
eight days after his birth. Later Isaac became the father of Jacob, and
Jacob became the father of the twelve patriarchs."
I stumbled onto the above after looking through my Strong's Exhaustive
Concordance of the Bible. There's not a bunch on "slave" or "slavery" but
more on "bondage" which translates back to "slavery" in the NIV. The
Matthew part was what I originally intended to offer but the rest just came
along.
I really lean more toward Celtic Buddhism so these forays into Xtian
theological texts is rather illuminating.
AER
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new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
: Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:16 PM
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: -Caveat Lector-
:
: In a message dated 1/12/99 7:24:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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: -Caveat Lector-
:
: An apologist for slavery and . . . You may think what you want, but do
you
: realize your rationalzations are inhumane.
:
: No I don't... As a matter of fact, if you could read (and understand
what you
:
: read), I have repeatedly said that I do not advocate the enslavement of
: anyone.
: I
:
: do not personally approve of slavery. Seems you would finally get that
: through
:
: your head.
:
:
: Gee, Hawk, thanks for your condescending attitude. I am sure you are
ready to
: listen.
:
: 1. Oh, you don't PERSONALLY approve of slavery. Well, I guess that makes
you a
: good person(PC) or do you have someother reason for you letting us know
that
: you don't PERSONALLY approve of slavery.
:
: Have you ever heard of the word hypocrite?
:
: hyp-o-crite (h p2õ-kr t1) n.
: A person given to hypocrisy.
:
: hy-poc-ri-sy (h -pÄk2r -sT) n., pl. hy-poc-ri-sies.
: 1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does
not
: hold or possess; falseness.
: 2. An act or instance of such falseness.
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[CTRL] Land Grab Trust Fund!
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Charles S Cushman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 010 (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 7:16 PM Subject: Trust Fund *** URGENT ACTION REQUIRED *** LAND RIGHTS NETWORK ALERT American Land Rights Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.landrights.org $1.5 BILLION PER YEAR LAND ACQUISITION TRUST FUND PROPOSED - NO BIGGER THREAT TO PRIVATE LAND OWNERS - ALL OUT EFFORT TO DEFEAT IT REQUIRED House Resources Chairman Don Young (R-AK) introduced a bill before Congress adjourned that would make the present Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) into a $1.5 billion land acquisition trust fund restarting the massive private land acquisition offensive that occurred in the 70's and 80's. A major target of the existing Clinton/Gore managed LWCF is removing ranchers and other owners of private land in rural areas. The Young bill is a huge threat to private property ownership. The Young Land Acquisition bill was introduced as a trial balloon at the end of the 105th Congress. It would create an off-budget, unappropriated land acquisition trust fund that would guarantee Federal agencies the money to attack landowners year after year. You will never be free of harassment by Federal land agents. The new trust fund would support huge land trusts such as the Nature Conservancy. These land trusts often operate in secret to buy private land with Federal tax dollars. Because it would be off budget, the new land acquisition trust fund would not have to go through the normal appropriations process. Land acquisition funding would not have to compete with other priorities for Federal dollars. It would become a new entitlement for the Nature Conservancy and other green groups. You would lose the opportunity you now have to head off land acquisition by testifying before the appropriations committees of Congress. The Young Trust Fund bill has 20 co-sponsors. Among them are Representatives Baker (R-LA), Tauzin (R-LA), Schaffer (R-CO), Gibbons (R-NV), and Radanovich (R-CA). These are all generally friendly to private property owners. The rest of the co-sponsors do not support property rights. Why are our supposed friends introducing such a dangerous bill? To please what we call the "hook and bullet" crowd, the fishermen and hunters. They want to buy more land for more wildlife refuges. American Land Rights has always supported the fishermen and hunters. But this huge trust fund is your enemy. A companion bill was introduced in the Senate by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and supported by Sen. Frank Murkowski (R-AK). The Murkowski-Landrieu bill was co-sponsored by Senators Cochran (D-MS), Sessions (R-AL), and Lott (R-MS). Again, because of space we only listed those who are usually friendly to private property owners. The hunters and fishermen carry a lot of weight in Congress. The sponsors generally represent states on the ocean and are affected by offshore oil and gas development that supplies most of the money for the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF). These bills are designed to give a lot of money to key coastal states like Mississippi, Louisiana and Alaska to compensate them for the impacts of oil drilling and encourage their support. But landowners (you) will be the ultimate victims. A third bill may be the most dangerous. It is the Gephardt Land Acquisition Trust, another LWCF trust fund bill just introduced by Rep. Richard Gephardt (D-MO). It guarantees nearly all the money to the LWCF with none for hunters and fishermen. The Gephardt Land Acquisition Trust (our name for it) is likely to be pushed by the environmental groups, plus Vice-President Gore and Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt are supportive. It would supply $900 million per year in guaranteed funds. $900 million equals the largest land acquisition year that ever occurred - 1979. That was the year landowners faced the worst attack of all. If it passes, the Gephardt Trust Fund will make every year as dangerous as 1979 for landowners. President Clinton and VP Gore will announce today (January 12th) a $1 billion per year program for land acquisition. It is called the "Lands Legacy Initiative" and will ultimately help convert the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) into an unappropriated trust fund. In addition Gore just announced a massive $10 billion "Better America Bonds" program that would could force Congress to pay bond costs for additional billions over a 15 year period for land acquisition, local parks, rapid transit and other goals. This supports Gore's "Partnership for America's Resources" (PAR). It will likely use the LWCF as the funding vehicle. Gore is pandering to urban dwellers promising to improve their quality of life. Bottom line. Don't let the snake out of the box. Call and write both your Senators and your Congressman today urging them to oppose these bills when they are
[CTRL] TERRORIST ALERT:
-Caveat Lector- TERRORIST ALERT: There is a northeast terrorist group operating in North America. They are stockpiling the most advanced weaponry known to man, and are highly DANGEROUS! They have committed high treason against the lawful government, refused to comply with current arms legislation, and have refused to pay lawful taxes. This paramilitary group is highly proficient in guerilla warfare, and is currently being led by a man who held the rank of lieutenant in the military, but is now referred to by his cult followers as General. This hate crazed group of anti-government extremists may be linked to a separatist movement. Anyone having any knowledge of the whereabouts of this so-called 'General' George Washington, please contact his Majesty's representatives as soon as possible! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The 10 Worst Corporations of 1998
What did we learn in 1998? Microsoft Chairman and CEO Bill Gates' net wealth -- $51 billion -- is greater than the combined net worth of the poorest 40 percent of Americans (106 million people). Hundreds of hospitals are "dumping" patients who can't afford to pay. The feds are criminally prosecuting big tobacco companies for smuggling cigarettes into Canada. (Never mind addicting young kids to smoke and thus condemning them to a certain, albeit, slow, death -- can't criminally prosecute them for that.) There's a bull market in stock fraud. Prescription drugs may cause 100,000 deaths a year. Two Fox-TV reporters in Florida are fired for trying to report on adverse health effects associated with genetically engineered foods. The U.S. Department of Agriculture proposes that genetically engineered foods be labelled "organic." Coal companies continue to cheat on air quality tests as hundreds of coal miners continue to die each year from black lung disease. The North American Securities Administrators Association estimates that Americans lose about $1 million a hour to securities fraud. Robert Reich says that megamergers threaten democracy. Corporate crime explodes, but the academic study of corporate crime vanishes. Three hundred trade unionists around the world were killed in 1997 for defending their rights. Corporate firms lobbying to cripple the Superfund law outnumber environmental groups seeking to defend it by 30 to one. Down on Nike? Chinese political prisoners allegedly make Adidas products. Blue Cross Blue Shield Illinois is a corporate criminal. Chemical companies are testing pesticides on human beings. Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, questions whether the Pentagon's financial controls have suffered a "complete and utter breakdown." Environmental crimes prosecution are down sharply under Clinton/Gore. Bush/Quayle had a better record. Bell Atlantic buys Maurice Sendak's Where the Wild Things Are illustrations to sell telephone products. Companies that have workers die on the job continue to be met with fines. Criminal prosecutions still rare. This is the price we pay for living in Corporate America. Wealth disparity, megamergers and the resulting consolidation of corporate power, commercialism run amok, rampant corporate crime, death without justice, pollution, cancer and an unrelenting attack on democracy. The 1998 market run-up might make plugged-in America feel good about itself, but big business is eating out the democratic foundation of the country, and when the empty shell crumbles, what kind of chaos might we anticipate? If you have justice on your mind, herewith for the tenth consecutive year is Multinational Monitor's effort to pinpoint those responsible. It is, admittedly, a short list -- the Ten Worst Corporations of 1998. But it is a representative list, and as the damage becomes more apparent, as the outrage at, and contempt for, our fearless leaders grows, surely the list, too, will grow. The Ten Worst Corporations of 1998 are: * Chevron, for continuing to do business with a brutal dictatorship in Nigeria and for alleged complicity in the killing of civilian protesters. * Coca-Cola, for hooking America's kids on sugar and soda water. Today, teenage boys and girls drink twice as much soda pop as milk, whereas 20 years ago they drank nearly twice as much milk as soda. * General Motors, for becoming an integral part of the Nazi war machine, and then years later, when documented proof emerges, denying it. * Loral and its chief executive Bernard Schwartz, for dumping $2.2 million into Clinton/Gore and Democratic Party coffers. The Clinton administration responded by approving a human rights waiver to clear the way for technology transfers to China. * Mobil, for supporting the Indonesian military in crushing an indigenous uprising in Aceh province and allegedly allowing the military to use company machinery to dig mass graves. * Monsanto, for introducing genetically engineered foods into the foodstream without adequate safety testing and without labeling, thus exposing consumers to unknown risks. * Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, for pleading guilty to felony crimes for dumping oil in the Atlantic Ocean and then lying to the Coast Guard about it. * Unocal, for engaging in numerous acts of pollution and law violations, to such a degree that citizens in California petitioned the state's attorney general to revoke the company's charter. * Wal-Mart, for crushing small town America, for paying low, low wages (a huge percentage of Wal-Mart workers are eligible for food stamps), for using Asian child labor and for homogenizing the population; and last, but not least, * Warner-Lambert, for marketing a hazardous diabetes drug, Rezulin, which has been linked to at least 33 deaths due to liver injuries. As
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/13/99 5:53:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/12/99 5:18:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time. Mustn't upset the right- wing freaks by exposing their hypocrisy. On the local TV news, it was stated that Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife while he was still married to his second wife. There was also some he said/she said regarding the abortion. Regarding another self righteous but unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels along the Mexican border. One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs. Let's hope, the elites are not able to continue the news block. If I'm remembering correctly, Libby Dole's marriage to Bob was also pressaged by similar behavior. No one seems to mind if you're a Republican. Pudy Gang, Couple of things that have been conviently forgotten. What was actually reported is that Barr and the other woman refused to answer questions on the stand during a divorce proceeding. So Barr and this other woman never lied under oath because they never actually answered the question put to them...apparently he claimed the 5th or something like that. But claiming the 5th must be ok because notable Democrats such as Carville, Lanny Davis and others have done it during various "under oath" sessions during lawsuits and grand jury. The difference between Barr and Clinton is Clinton answered the question(s) and lied under oath. Had Clinton fessed up to getting oral sex from Monica in and around the oval office in January of 1998 when the scandel first blew up, it would have never led to impeachment...although the Paula Jones case may have still been on going..which is why Clinton lied in the first place. Which brings me to the next point. The liberals/Democrats et all define morality as 'being true (supporting) to the political issues' i.e. abortion, welfare, and such, with your private life not being a factor in your morals. Under the Democrat/Liberal principle and definition being advanced a dedicated member of the militia/KKK/NAZI's or whom ever would be defined as "moral men" as long as they remained true to their political issues during the day. After all what they do at night or after hours doesn't matter under that definition. Likewise if a loyal Democrat (or any party) person was true to the issues during the day, but molested children at night, then he too would be considered a moral man. Under the liberal/Democrat definition of morality it would be ok to fool around on your husband or wife...as long as you were 'true to the political issues' while you were serving. So if Liberals and Democrats are true to the principles and definitions advanced by their leaders nothing Bob Barr/Livingston or any other Republican did could even be remotely considered to be immoral. The proof of this principle is what the head of the Democratic party and the President of the US did when Livingston resigned over his philandering. The President called for Bob Livingston to NOT resign over sex issues. Interestingly it was all the Democrats who were calling for Livingston not to resign while the Republicans said nothing. It is because of the above mentioned point (about the Democrat/Liberal definition of morality) is the exact reason why the White House/Democrats/Liberals/Feminists are now embracing Larry Flynt. Even to the point of White House press secretary calling Hustler a "news magazine." We see that even though Larry Flynt has exploited women and promoted child molesting, what he does is OK because Flynt is true to the politcal issues. I am curious. Do you think the liberal left would mind some conservative dude said he would put up 1 million dollars for information about the Democrats and their sex lives? The answer is a resounding YES. The liberals and the left would squall their heads off. We would hear weeks of tales and stories about how the right has gone off the deep end blah blah blah. Naturally the liberal left doesn't mind when its pointed to the right. As for "family values" we should remember that Clinton/Gore who got on the "family values" platform in 1992 and 1996 when they were reelected. If you sincerely believe the notion is that *anybody* that claims family values, but yet goes out and has sex out of marriage, is a hyprocrit, then you must also believe that besides the Republicans, the leader of your party and the President of the US falls in that catagory. I suspect that the liberals/democrats/left will continue to support anything connected to "their man" just like some foolish people in the Republican party/Conservatives supported Richard Nixon in 1974...because he was "their man." Remember one final thought. IF Clinton gets removed from office (I don't think he will) it will be
[CTRL] Secret plan for spies to bug PCs
-Caveat Lector- Secret plan for spies to bug PCs By DAN TEBBUTT 13jan99 PERSONAL computers would become police spy stations under secret proposals put to the Federal Government by a former deputy director of ASIO. The Australian Federal Police, ASIO and the National Crime Authority would be empowered to alter software to turn PCs into covert listening devices, according to the 1996 report by one-time spy chief Gerald Walsh. The report also recommends changes to the Commonwealth Crimes Act to allow police and government investigators to hack into computer systems for evidence. While Mr Walsh called for public discussion of his proposals, the report was withdrawn by the Attorney-General's Department. But a copy of the 96-page document was obtained last week by Internet privacy campaigners Electronic Frontiers Australia and released to The Australian. A spokesman for Attorney-General Daryl Williams confirmed last night that Mr Walsh's recommendations were under discussion but the report was "just one element" of policy being considered. He would not say whether the controversial recommendations would be acted on through legislation. Mr Walsh warns that widespread use of PC-based data scrambling is a big concern for law enforcement. Criminals were already using computer encryption programs that encode data so it cannot be intercepted to prevent police from monitoring phone calls and e-mail. Widespread encryption to scramble sensitive data would make crimes harder to prove in court, Mr Walsh warns. "The principle of non self-incrimination may well represent the polite end of the possible range of responses," the report says. Mr Walsh's plan would clear the way for police to eavesdrop on computer conversations at the source. A "target computer may be converted into a listening device" that could seek out passwords and other private communications without the PC owner's knowledge. EFA spokesman Greg Taylor said authorities might set up Trojan horse software that would record all PC activity, including passwords and e-mail, before encryption. "If you have access to someone's PC and you change their software you can do anything you want," said Mr Taylor. "If it's connected to a network such as the Internet the PC could transmit data to another site." Australian Council for Civil Liberties president Terry O'Gorman said the proposals would be a worrying extension to police wiretap powers which were already over-used. "We are concerned about the low level of protection in relation to current judicial warrants for telephone eavesdropping," Mr O'Gorman said. Labor information technology spokeswoman Senator Kate Lundy said "the whole issue of encryption is being used as a lever to justify further invasions of privacy". - "Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities" -Zbigniew Brezinsky, Advisor to Jimmy Carter ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [CTRL] Understanding Republicans was something else]
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Criminalization of drugs, prostitution, gambling, sodomy ... encouragement of prayer in the government schools, the government schools themselves ... Edward Britton wrote: "Criminalization of drugs (a wasted effort, apart from filling the coffers of criminals and politicians), prostitution, gambling, sodomy..." fall under the rubric of punishment of/for criminals. MJ: It is an effort to CONTROL behaviors based NOT upon freedom and liberty. [ALL non-property 'crimes' are revenue generators :) ] Edward Britton wrote: How is encouragement of prayer in schools considered social intervention? I'll need more here to continue in the vein of social intervention. MJ: How does a school prevent a 'religious' person's child from praying? It is NOT their child they are concerned with, but everyone else's. MJ: How exactly does one who disapproves of the Government forcibly taking an arbitrary amount of earnings from an arbitrarily defined group and redistributing this plunder to another arbitrary group fall within the confines of 'social Darwinism'? Edward Britton wrote: Because those who proffer such an argument imply (by the use of emotives like "theft" and "plunder") that there is no need for a collection of just revenues for the maintenance of a society in which "a few (to be arbitrarily determined :-))" benefit disproportionately. Such arguments negate the need for a basic provision of services to those within a society who are incapable of fending for themselves. Such arguments, therefore, promote, by default, the social equivalent of the "natural laws" of survival of the fittest. The social extension of such an argument/philosophy is social Darwinism or naturalism. MJ: You are committing a myriad of logical fallacy here not limited to strawman. There is nothing in my statement above which relates no need to fund 'society'. The 'theft and plunder' relate to unconstitutional efforts of our government which is operating beyond their mandate (to the tune of at least 85% of what they do fitting this category). I certainly believe everyone -- man, woman and child -- should pay the SAME for services which cannot otherwise be separated into 'use' categories. Roads/highways (though certainly a good private ownership candidate) should be paid entirely by gasoline taxes -- which are managed at the most local level possible. National Defense on the other hand should be funded equally by determining the budget and dividing by the population. What better way to eliminate the 'fluff' and keep the costs to a minimum? I also believe in charity -- the REAL kind. Now, with this additional information, how are my comments in the gendre you associate them? MJ: What you describe (haphazardly) as a Republican is NOT a Libertarian -- grouping them together is dishonest. Edward Britton wrote: Hardly: according to my experience (subjective at best, but never claimed to have been more than that), there is no practical difference between the philosophies of Republicans and Libertarians--apart from the stated possibility that Libertarians lean more in the direction of anarchy than fascism. In either case, to make such an assertion is not dishonest. from www.lp.org We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual. We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose. Governments throughout history have regularly operated on the opposite principle, that the State has the right to dispose of the lives of individuals and the fruits of their labor. Even within the United States, all political parties other than our own grant to government the right to regulate the lives of individuals and seize the fruits of their labor without their consent. We, on the contrary, deny the right of any government to do these things, and hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual: namely, (1) the right to life -- accordingly we support the prohibition of the initiation of physical force against others; (2) the right to liberty of speech and action -- accordingly we oppose all attempts by government to abridge the freedom of speech and press, as well as government censorship in any form; and (3) the right to property -- accordingly we oppose all government interference with private property, such as confiscation, nationalization, and eminent domain, and support
[CTRL] Michael Levine - The DEA's Exiled Dissident
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: High Times, January 1999, No. 281 Trans-High Corporation©1999 235 Park Avenue South, 5th Floor New York, NY 10013 ISSN #0362-630X 12 issues/$29.95US 12 issues/$37.45Foreign http://www.hightimes.com - Michael Levine - The DEA's Exiled Dissident the high times interview By BILL WEINBERG Michael Levine is a veteran of 25 years of undercover work with four federal agencies an three continents. He is now the Drug Enforcement Administration's most prominent and outspoken critic. From the Golden Triangle to the Andes, he claims his efforts to snare the dope trade's biggest bosses were sabotaged by the DEA "suits"and CIA pressure. The story of his operations against the Bolivian coke mafia is detailed in his books DEEP COVER (Delacorte, 19901 and THE BIG WHITE LIE (Thunder's Mouth Press, 19931. His newest book, TRIANGLE OF DEATH (Dell, 19961, coauthored with his wife, Laura Kavanau, is a thriller based on his real-life experiences. He also hosts the weekly EXPERT WITNESS radio show an New York's WBAI-FM, in whose studios this interview took place. HT: So why is an ex-DEA agent doing talk radio? Michael Levine: Because we're seeing the complete abdication of the media from any role whatsoever as a watchdog. I was the senior US law-enforcement officer in the Southern Cone, and you can't imagine a greater betrayal of the trust of the American people than what I observed. And that is the support by CIA and their assets of the takeover of Bolivia by drug dealers and escaped Nazis. The "Cocaine Coup" of 1980, which turned the South American drug trade into a major industry. Right. I mean, it happened right under the nose of the media. Newsweek wrote an article that was so far off-base on the Bolivian revolution that I did what was probably one of the dumbest things of my life. I wrote a letter to them on embassy letterhead saying, "You missed the whole story, the story was the CIA betrayed us." Why was it a mistake? They never called me, and I was put under investigation. And, lo and behold, who seized that something was really wrong with the Bolivia coverage? HIGH TIMES. Dean Latimer. I'm gonna paraphrase his article [August 1981]: He said, "The government did this incredible, giant sting operation, and they don't want any credit for it. Something is wrong." And that was a reference to... The Roberto Suarez case, which was sabotaged all around me. And HIGH IMES was actually the only member of the media that was on the right track. I should have written HIGH TIMES instead of Newsweek' It would've got out! Let's start at the beginning. How did you become a DEA agent? A guy stuck a gun in my stomach when I was in the military police and pulled the trigger over a three-dollar hat. It misfired. I was amazingly lucky. The event inspired a profound change in me. I was in a rush to live. I thought I could become this James Bond type of undercover agent. I was very good at undercover. I could speak fluent Spanish. I knew the streetsI was a bad kid, I had been arrested twice before I was sixteen. I was getting paid to hang out in the Bronx like when I was a kid. With IRS intelligence, in '65, I was one of the few guys who could go down in the street and get bolita, Spanish numbers. I could pass as anything. But it was a meaningless game to me, it was just a lot of thrills. And then I found out that my brother David was a heroin addict. Suddenly, the whole thing seemed to come home. I believed all the rhetoric, you know? I believed that the drug dealer was the lowest. And I decided I was saved for a reason, and that was to get into narcotics enforcement. So you were with the DEA from the inception of the agency? Yeah. In '70, I transferred from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms into the hard-narcotics-smuggling unit of Customs. And that was my first run- in with the CIA. It was US v. Liang-Sae Tiw, et al. It began with a July 4, 1971 heroin arrest at JFK airport. He became my informer. He made heroin runs from Bangkok, Thailand. We busted his pick-ups, who were distributing nationwide, in a Florida swamp. I go undercover to meet their connection in Bangkok. These guys loved me, they wanted to take me up to Chiang Mai. But the case started coming apart. I wasn't getting operational fundsI'm this Mafia guy and I'm lying like hell and they're getting ready to kill me. So I started really screaming to my superiors, and I was brought into the American Embassy at midnight. I meet the boss of Customs there, Joe Jenkins, and a bald guy in a guayabera shirt who tells me, "You're not going to Chiang Mai." When we left, Jenkins turns to me and says [sotto voce], "That guy is CIA." So I followed my orders to bust the guy I was dealing with, and close the case. I was given a special Treasury Department award. But I didn't go to Chiang Mai and get the suppliers. Years later, I was put on the DEA desk tracking tribal factions in the Golden Triangle, and learned that the
