Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

[Howard R. Davis III]

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AOL User wrote:
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> Have two cents to put in re Hitler being demon possessed.
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> Joseph Carr in "The Twisted Cross" wrote that when Hitler was l2 he was
> listening to some Wagnerian opera and the devil spoke to him and Hitler
> willingly, knowingly asked the devil inside to take him over.
>

This is very interesting. Could you give more specifics, such as what
opera and where in the opera, what the "devil" said to him, and how Carr
obtained the information?

Howard Davis

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

[Bill Richer]

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In a message dated 4/17/99 10:54:40 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A,
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<< >>
 >I wondered why the Colonel didn't respond that it was irrresponsible NOT to
 >teach youngsters how to handle a firearm - "violent society we live in."
 >Learning to use a weapon is not learning to kill; it is learning to defend
 >oneself. There are statistics indicating that firearms are used more often
in
 >the prevention of violent crimes than in the commission of them.

 probably because he is a mentally ill sociopath.

 Andrew Hennessey
 > >>
The Colonel was just putting a liberal lady who was pushing her agenda in her
place!  I think he did it brilliantly!

Bill

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[CTRL] Newspaper fire logs

[Edward Britton]

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All:

Seems this discussion about junk mail fuel is catching on. This just in
from Tricities2000:
~~~
Basic Newspaper Logs

* Use 6 sections (five double sheets in each section) for each
newspaper log. * Fold double sheets to single page size. * Fold each
single page section in half width-wise. * Turn 90=B0 and fold in half
again. * Stack the sections, alternating cut with folded sides. Allow
bottom or outside section to extend out from the roll by 3-4 inches.
This make a convenient way to light the roll. * Roll papers very
tightly, securing the center and ends of the newspaper roll with a
tightly twisted piece of wire. (Bailing wire works well.)

The average daily newspaper will make 2-3 logs. The typical city
Sunday edition will make up 7 logs. Newspaper logs provide, on a
pound-for-pound basis, approximately the same heat as wood and are an
efficient energy source.

The following method provides a cleaner-burning version of the Basic
Newspaper Log by using water to help break down the paper, much like
papier mache. This log burns more effectively because the compressed
paper is now expanded. These logs are fatter and will burn more
brightly. Adding the detergent speeds the saturation rate of the
newsprint. A few crystals of copper sulfate added to the water will
create beartiful flame highlights.

Basic "Clean-Burning" Newspaper Logs

* Divide the newspaper into sections. * Fold sections to half size,
approximately 12 X 15 X 1/2 inch thick. * Fill laundry tub 3/4 full
with water and add 2 tablespoons detergent to speed saturation. Place
newspaper sections in tub and allow to soak n this mixture for
approximately 2 hours, or until newspapers have absorbed maximum
amount of water. * While wet, roll the sections individually onto a
1-inch metal or wood rod, squeezing out the excess water while
smoothing down the ends and edges. * Tie with a mettal tie-wrap near
ends and middle to hold roll intact while drying. * Slide the rolls
off the rod and stand them on end to dry, tipping the rolls slightly
to allow air to circulate through the center of the roll. The "log"
should be approximately 12 inches long and 2-4 inches in diameter.
They are ready to use when completely dry.

You can make these logs at no extra charge to you, then the price of
the newspaper delivered to your door. It's like getting fire wood
delivered to your door for free.

There are some commercial newspaper log-making machines which simplify
and speed up the process of folding and rolling.

Four newspaper logs last approximately one hour and procduce heat
equivalent to a comparably sized stick of wood. Newspaper fuel
overcomes problems of smoldering, flying ashes, and popping of wood.

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[CTRL] End Cannabis Prohibition

[David Crockett Williams]

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From: Hempman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Petition Drive due before June 16th - End Cannabis Prohibition -
Free The Medicine!
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 7:15 PM

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Please visit the web site linked below. It contains a petition to end
cannabis insanity against those who would benefit from the consumption of
it. Suffering fellow Americans, who have found a medicine that is beneficial
to them, are being persecuted by prosecution.

Their otherwise stable and law abiding life isn't being harmed by their
use of therapeutic cannabis, but by the intrusion into their lives by LEA
officers, who are frequently violent and threatening beyond what the
situation called for, they've been known to steal household valuables that
had no connection to the investigation, only for the "evidence" to
disappear.

In some horrible cases, police officers take on the roll of terroristic
torturers, as New Castle County Officer Drake (badge #2239) did to me when
paramedics were accidentally summoned to my home in a mistake report that I
was "OD'ing" The fact is, they didn't get to my house until almost an hour
and a half after the supposed incident of overdose, and when they got to my
house, I was sitting eating dinner! Drake wouldn't let the paramedics
examine the prescription bottle, in order to count the pills to see that I
hadn't taken more than my prescribed dose.

His own statements that he made while beating and torturing me show that
he knew I was the president of Delaware Cannabis Society, he'd been watching
me and that he would teach me how he treated activists in Delaware, calling
me "jewboy" (sic) as he beat my feet, hands, head and body joints with a
steel rod called a stun rod (for its capability of delivering 40,000 volts
all while beating the victim. Drake called it his "little toy" when
describing it.) in an attempt to disable me, even though I already had both
hands handcuffed to a hospital gurney.

Also a friend, who I'll call zigzag for now, who was diagnosed with HIV
has been tortured by cops bent on their rancorous, zealous, prohibitionist
frenzy of tearing his house apart looking for his medicinal cannabis. He was
left standing naked in the freezing snow by the bastards, after they'd tear
gassed him and sprayed him down with a fire hose. Finally a fireman took
pity and made the humanitarian effort to give him a coat. But zigzag still
had to be out there while they tore his house up, wet, and with no shoes,
until someone finally brought him a pair

Here's that link to the petition I promised! If anyone wants more
information about what the petition is based on, please write back to me.
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http://www.e-thepeople.com/petition.cfm?PETID=126941

Stop the madness!

PS. I had this petition once before, but bugs in the e-thepeople system
dumped it before it was sent. If you signed the last petition, it got lost,
please sign this one. I think it is a little better worded, even with the
typo, anyway.
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[CTRL] Waco and Kosovo

[David Crockett Williams]

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From: Carol Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 5:13 PM
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COMMITTEE FOR WACO JUSTICE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASEContact: Carol Moore 202/635-3739
 Alan Forschler 202/797-9877

WACO VIGILERS WARN:  CLINTON DESTROYS KOSOVO AND SERBIA
LIKE HE DID BRANCH DAVIDIANS IN 1993

  Washington, D.C.--On Sunday, April 18th from noon to 3 p.m the Committee
for Waco Justice
will erect 82 crosses in the northwest quadrant of the Ellipse, south of the
White House
for Davidians killed by the FBI on April 19, 1993.  The Committee also will
display a
banner reading “FBI Killed a Village and Its Children” and carry signs
linking Clinton’s
aggression against Davidians and in the Balkans today.
Carol Moore, coordinator of the Committee and author of the mass market
paperback The
Davidian Massacre, asserts that Clinton is “wagging the dog” with the
U.S.-led NATO
bombings on Kosovo and Serbia.  She states, “Clinton’s bombings of Iraq,
Sudan and
Afghanistan coincided with initial allegations of adultery, his admission of
adultery, the
House of Representatives’ vote on impeachment and the televising of Juanita
Broaddrick’s
credible rape allegation.  Although Clinton escaped impeachment, he
continues to face
jeopardy: leaked FBI files that he raped and assaulted other women;
reporters hounding
these women to speak out; federal investigators interrogating former Clinton
business
partners and Chinese government-linked campaign contributors; a forthcoming
Congressional
report on Clinton’s laxity in stopping Chinese government spying at U.S.
weapons
facilities; reports that Clinton allowed China to legally import nuclear
weapons
manufacture equipment.”
Similarly in 1993, after a brutal February 28 BATF attack that killed six
Davidians and a
51-day standoff due to FBI mismanagement of negotiations, Clinton was eager
to end an
embarrassing situation.  Therefore he approved a dangerous FBI plan to
assault a
multiracial church filled with 23 children, 36 women and 34 men with gas and
military
tanks.  He knew that the building was a firetrap filled with flammable fuels
and lighted
lanterns.  During the April 19, 1993 attack a tank knocked over a lantern,
causing a fire;
76 people trapped by tank debris or frightened of being shot by FBI snipers
burned to
death.  The next day President Clinton claimed “some religious fanatics
murdered
themselves.”
Former White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich revealed in an October, 1998
speech: “Bill
Clinton was embarrassed that he was not able to figure out what to do about
David Koresh
and Waco.  It was becoming his hostage situation.  He was being compared to
Jimmy Carter.
And so they wanted the Department of Justice to get rid of the mess...But
the President
told me to my face that he felt so bad about this ‘mass suicide.’”
The Academy Award nominated film “Waco: The Rules of Engagement,” details
evidence that
BATF shot from helicopters, that FBI tanks started the fire and that federal
agents shot at
Branch Davidians during the fire.  (Http://www.waco93.com)  Clinton’s
bombing of Serbia and
Kosovo has prompted Serb attacks on Kosovoan Albanians and the exodus of a
million
refugees.  NATO bombings have killed hundreds of Albanians and Serbs and may
yet lead to
accidental or intentional nuclear war between Russia and the U.S.
The Committee for Waco Justice, which has held over 20 protests in D.C. in
the last six
years, informs America that Waco was just a warning of the kind of Holocaust
that may face
the world because of Clinton’s selfishness and recklessness.  Call the
numbers above for
more information.
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[CTRL] Nexus Magazine - Mind Control and the NWO

[Don Allen]

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Source - http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/MindControlNWO.html

Mind Control Slavery and the New World Order

According to this extremely disturbing report, Monarch Program mind-control
survivors claim to have been used as high-tech slaves by certain intelligence
agencies and top-ranking politicians.


Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 6, Number 2 (February-March 1999).
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High-tech slavery is alive and well on planet Earth. Ever since World War II
when the United States Government's Project Paperclip sponsored the
resettlement
of about 2,000 high-level Nazis in the United States, the technology of
mind-control programming has advanced rapidly.
"The Germans under the Nazi government began to do serious scientific research
into trauma-based mind control," write Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler in
their book, The Illuminati Formula used to create an Undetectable Total Mind
Controlled Slave. "Under the auspices of the Kaiser Wilhelm Medical
Institute in
Berlin, Josef Mengele conducted mind-control research on thousands of twins
and
thousands of other hapless victims."
Mengele, known as "the Angel of Death", was one of the approximately 900
military scientists and medical researchers secretly exfiltrated into the
United
States, where he continued his 'research' and trained others in the black arts
of mind control. This work in behaviour manipulation was later incorporated
into
the CIA's projects Bluebird and Artichoke which, in 1953, became the notorious
MKULTRA. The CIA claims that these programs were discontinued, but there is no
credible evidence that "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate" (the title of
the definitive book by John Marks) ever ceased.
In fact, Captain John McCarthy, US Army Special Forces (Ret.), who ran CIA
assassination teams out of Saigon during the Vietnam War, told his friend,
LAPD
whistleblower Mike Ruppert, that "MKULTRA is a CIA acronym that officially
stands for 'Manufacturing Killers Utilizing Lethal Tradecraft Requiring
Assassinations'". Thus the CIA's official obsession with producing programmed
killers through the MKULTRA contained more than 149 sub-programs in fields
ranging from biology, pharmacology, psychology to laser physics and ESP.
More recently, new evidence points to the continuous use of so-called
trauma-based programming techniques to accomplish the same goal. This includes
the deliberate induction of Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) in involuntary
human subjects - in essence, human guinea pigs.
MPD has been reclassified by the American Psychiatric Association as
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). The psychiatrists' bible, the Diagnostic
and Statistical Manual (DSM-IV, p. 487), characterises it by:
A. The presence of two or more distinct personality states;
B. At least two of these identities or personality states recurrently take
control of the person's behaviour;
C. Inability to recall important personal information that is too extensive to
be explained by ordinary forgetfulness;
D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a
substance
or a general medical condition.

No matter what name is assigned to the problem, however, to create this
condition by conscious intent is an atrocity so depraved that trauma-based
mind-control programming remains the de facto Secret Holocaust of the 20th
century. Known as the Monarch Project, it has been verified and
corroborated by
numerous survivors like Cathy O'Brien, author of TranceFormation of America,
Brice Taylor, author of Starshine, and K. Sullivan, author of MK. No paper
trail
has been found which leads from the CIA's MKULTRA program to the Monarch
Project
- a catchword for mind control which involves US military, CIA, NASA and other
government agencies.
The Franklin Cover-up, attorney John W. DeCamp's groundbreaking book about
high-level pedophilia, also describes the sordid details of Monarch. "Drugs
are
not the deepest level of government-sponsored evil," he writes. "I think the
lowest level of Hell is reserved for those who conjured up and carried out the
'Monarch Project'. 'Monarch' refers to young people in America who were
victims
of mind-control experiments run either by US government agencies such as
CIA or
military intelligence agencies."
DeCamp's client, Monarch abuse survivor Paul Bonacci, has a story which
parallels the victimology of O'Brien, Taylor and Sullivan - an extensive
cross-corroboration of perpetrators and their methodology. It's simply "the
production of a horde of children in whom the soul is crushed, who would spy,
whore, kill and commit suicide", in the words of investigative reporter Anton
Chaitkin, quoted by DeCamp in his book.
Recovering Monarch victims speak 

[CTRL] Fwd: (en) Action against war - Workers at Montenegros largest commercial port

[nessie]

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Montenegran port tells
Yugoslav navy to leave
09:45 a.m. Apr 13, 1999 Eastern
By Crispian Balmer
BAR, Montenegro, April 13 (Reuters) - Workers at Montenegrois largest
commercial port demanded on Tuesday that the Yugoslav Navy pull out after a
moored military vessel opened fire on NATO warplanes.
Fearful that the action could provoke a retaliatory attack by NATO, the
portis managing director Petrasin Kasalica sent a furious letter to the
head of the small navy saying he had abused their hospitality.
``You must urgently remove your
ships from the port,ii he told Admiral
Milan Zec. ``In these circumstances,
the port of Bar does not require or
need the protection of the navy,
especially when it is acting in such a
provocative manner.ii
The open letter contained a veiled warning that if the boats did not put to
sea, dockers might storm them to halt further attacks.
Montenegro forms part of the Yugoslav Federation, but its reform-minded
government has distanced itself from Belgrade and sought to maintain ties
with the West, denouncing Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic as a
warmonger.
Several hundred dockers gathered in a cavernous waterside warehouse in Bar
on Tuesday to protest against Mondayis action, when a small naval vessel
fired anti-aircraft canons at NATO warplanes.
The managing director of port handling, Dragan Nikezic, told the men that
the canons did not have the range to hit the high-flying aircraft, which
regularly pass through Montenegrin airspace on their way to sorties in
neighbouring Serbia.
``By doing this, our port, our
dockers and the citizens of Bar have
become a potential target,ii Nikezic
said. ``You will endanger both our
lives and your own...deprive
Yugoslavia of its largest link with the
outside world and cause a
humanitarian catastropheii
The southern Adriatic port of Bar employs some 1,800 people and has carried
on operating, albeit at a reduced rate, despite the NATO air strikes on
Yugoslavia.
The Yugoslav Navy spread its ageing flotilla around Montenegrin harbours
before the start of the Westis bombardment and NATO has warned that if any
of the ships put to sea they will be destroyed.
Officials said four or five military boats were anchored in Bar. The Monday
morning salvo was the first time the navy had opened fire on NATO.
``These ships are toys compared to what NATO has,ii Nikezic said.
NATO warplanes hit military sites within Montenegro at the start of their
air campaign, but the alliance has not targeted the small coastal republic
for more than two weeks for fear of destabilising the government.
Senior government officials have accused the Yugolsav army of trying to
draw NATO fire to whip up anti-Western feeling and undermine President Milo
Djukanovic.
The dockers applauded loudly as
Kasalicis letter was read out at their
assembly. ``The workers are deeply
embittered,ii the letter said, adding
that action had to be taken to avoid
``self-organised groups of workers
from taking over your (navy)
objects.ii
Union leader Zoran Ostojic, speaking in front of a mountainous pile of
humanitarian food aid sent by the United States, condemned the NATO air
strikes, but said he was determined to save the port.
``The workers of Bar refuse to be mobile targets and the victims of the
political games of other people,ii he told the workers.
The port, which has a storage capacity of five million tonnes, had to be
completely rebuilt following an earthquake in 1979.
``We know what it means to have our port destroyed and how much effort is
needed to rebuild it,ii a port spokeswoman said.

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[CTRL] Japanese Bonds Seen Falling on Weak Demand for 10-Year Sale

[Carl Amedio]

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Japanese Bonds Seen Falling on Weak Demand for 10-Year Sale
Bloomberg News
Apr 17 1999 8:21PM ET
(Changes dateline, updates day references throughout.)

Tokyo, April 18 (Bloomberg) -- Japanese government bonds are likely to fall
this week as a sale of 10-year bonds may fail to lure investors amid concern
the government will have to increase spending to revive the economy.

The Ministry of Finance will sell 1.4 trillion yen ($11.8 billion) in 10-year
bonds, which could provide a 1.5 percent or 1.6 percent coupon at Wednesday's
monthly auction, the lowest since November.

``The big question is whether investors will buy such a coupon,'' said
Akinori Ito, chief portfolio manager at Nikko International Capital
Management Co., which oversees 2.5 trillion yen ($21.1 billion) in assets.
``We won't.''

In the week just ended, the benchmark No. 211, 10-year bond rose 0.044, or 22
yen per 50,000 yen bond, pushing the yield down 0.5 basis point to 1.605
percent. Bond futures for June delivery rose 0.30 to 133.80.

Low coupons are less attractive to Japanese bond investors because under the
nation's accounting standards, coupon payments are classified as riskless
investment and not subject to capital gains tax. Many traders said that a
coupon under 1.70 percent will not be attractive.

Additional Spending

Investors expect that the government will have to spend more in the latter
half of this year to revive the world's second-largest economy, which the
government has said contracted 2.2 percent for the year ended March 31.

That has raised concern the government may have to sell more debt than
already planned. It plans to sell a record 71.3 trillion yen in bonds in the
year started April 1, a 23 percent increase from the previous year.

The prospect of such debt sales helped to push up the yield on the 10-year
bond to its high of 2.505 percent on Feb. 3. The yield fell after the Bank of
Japan on Feb. 12 cut its target rate for overnight lending between banks.

Finance Minister Kiichi Miyazawa said last Friday there is a need to consider
tax cuts to promote investment and effective use of assets.

``We didn't expect the tax cut talk,'' said Koji Hozumi, a trader at New
Japan Securities Co. ``That could help stocks'' and lead to more debt sales,
he said.

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[CTRL] Top 10 diffs between Hitler and Klintoon

[Don Allen]

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Top Ten Differences Between Hitler and ClintonTop Ten Differences Between
Hitler and Clinton

Compiler Unknown

#1 - Hitler used drugs on prisoners.
Clinton used drugs.

#2 - Hitler had a socialized health care system.
Clinton's still working on it.

#3 - Hitler used environmental concerns to seize property.
Clinton is also using it to regulate the economy.

#4 - Hitler received more than half of the vote when elected.
Clinton didn't.

The Fact Police report that Hitler was appointed, not elected.
#5 - Hitler invaded France and installed a puppet government.
Clinton invaded Haiti and installed a Marxist tyrant.

#6 - Hitler admitted he had fought in his nation's military.
Clinton lied about committing crimes to avoid it.

#7 - Hitler slept with his mistress.
Clinton slept with his employees.

#8 - "The priveleged, wealthy Jewish race must pay..." -- Hitler
"The priveleged, wealthy white race must pay..." -- Clinton

#9 - Hitler got to power with the money of the wealthy he then oppressed.
Clinton got to power with the money of the wealthy who now control him.

#10 - "1935 will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation
has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more
efficient and the world will
follow our lead into the future!" -- Adolph Hitler

"Our police are hampered by the lack of full gun registration. We need to
follow the lead of other civilized nations in securing our streets!"  --
Bill Clinton

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Re: [CTRL] Russia Mobilizes, America Sleeps

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In a message dated 4/17/99 6:04:45 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Sheeple go "THROUGH the Looking-Glass," like Alice, into a collective
fantasy
>  world of projection, displacement, and denial.  Those who are SANE realize
>  it's only a MIRROR.

You make a good point and I, for one, appreciate the reminder.  I've been
quite concerned about NATO provoking Russia and China.  For those of us who
believe that SOME otherworldy UFO's exist, there is ample evidence that the
combined governments have been covering up this information in a cooperative
effort.  All the more reason to see the sense of your points.

Please don't tell me Timothy Goode, author of "Above Top Secret:  The
Worldwide UFO Conspiracy" is a covert agent/author.  I already have a stress
headache.  Unravelling illusions takes a lot of energy.

Samm

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[CTRL] Power firms face Y2K woes

[Don Allen]

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Source - http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/9904/16/y2k_electricity/

Report says power utilities lag in Y2K readiness - Apr. 16, 1999


Power firms face Y2K woes
GAO report says nearly half of electric utilities will miss preparation
deadline
Countdown to Y2K
April 16, 1999: 3:39 p.m. ET


Senators chide gov't on Y2K contingency plans - Apr. 14, 1999
FAA to test air-traffic control systems for Y2K - Apr. 5, 1999

General Accounting Office

NEW YORK (CNNfn) - The nation's electric power utilities have completed
only 44 percent of Year 2000-related preparedness and testing, giving rise
to concerns about the possibility of widespread power failures as the new
year approaches, according to a government report.
The General Accounting Office (GAO) also reported that 46 of the
participating organizations said they don't expect to be Y2K ready by the
industry's June target date.
Furthermore, 16 percent of those organizations said they don't expect to
be Y2K-compliant until the fourth quarter of 1999.
The Y2K problem refers to problems computers may face during the
transition from 1999 to 2000 because many computers are programmed to
recognize only the last two digits of the year. Computers may recognize
2000 as 1900 or may cease to function altogether.
Among the concerns is that many people may face outages in key services,
such as electricity and water supply.
Noting that the U.S. electric power supply industry is comprised of about
3,200 electric utilities, the GAO expressed concern about the industry's
efforts to make their systems Y2K ready.
"While the electric power industry has reported that it has made
substantial progress in making its equipment and systems ready to continue
operations in the year 2000, significant risks remain," the report said.
Because power utilities are dependent on embedded computer control
systems -- that is, chips that are built into a computer's architecture
and can't be replaced with different chips - the industry is particularly
susceptible to Y2K-related failures.
"All phases of operations in the electric power industry, from generation
to distribution, use control systems and equipment that are subject to
Year 2000 failures," the GAO report said. "The industry's analysis of its
embedded systems has shown that the Year 2000 problem places the nation's
electric power systems at risk."
Last month, a special committee established by the Clinton administration
found that 11 of the 24 major federal agencies, including the Energy
Department, missed the government's March 31 deadline for making their
mission-critical systems Y2K compliant.


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[CTRL] Fwd: (en) The war continues and so does resistance, a message from women in londo

[nessie]

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  A - I N F O S  N E W S  S E R V I C E
http://www.ainfos.ca/
 

Exerpt from ZNet Update...[See bellow]
.I am writing again so soon because I am inundated with
people saying "I want to oppose the bombing but I don't want to be
supporting Milosevic." Of course there is much on ZNet and in many other
venues bearing on these matters and I do hope you will regularly look at
the
Kosovo pages at http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/kosovo.htm for relevant
information. Here, however, I would like to offer another source--one that
is not typically heard near so loudly nor as closely as it ought to be,
particularly during times of war--of what I hope will be useful insight and
sustenance regarding dealing with, or thinking about, or becoming sensitive
to, the many dimensions of this concern. The material is a message from a
feminist activist in London about a demonstration there and her feelings
about it, and offering as well the views of some women in Kosovo and
Belgrade in their own words. There is much to contemplate in this
communication--immediately at the very least everyone opposing the bomings
needs to realize the importance and charachter of these feelings to be able
to address them, in all their varied shapes, constructively and
effectively...

A Letter about some of the Complexities of Opposition

BEING ABLE TO SAY NEITHER / NOR By Cynthia Cockburn

A group of us in London co-ordinate occasional actions as 'Women in Black'
(footnote). Although I am actively involved I do not speak 'for' Women in
Black London. What follows is no more than a few personal thoughts. Just as
Women in Black has no formal membership or spokes-people, neither can it
really be said to have a line. But from all the occasions women have
demonstrated together under this name on the streets of many different
countries it is possible to work out what we are standing against and
standing for.

First, Women in Black is against the whole continuum of violence, from male
violence against women, to militarism and war. It is for justice and peace.
It is clearly for multi-ethnic democracy. It is for non-violent,
negotiated,
means of resolving differences. And there is an implicit analysis that a
certain kind of masculinity fuels and is fuelled by militarism and war, and
that this is harmful not only for women but also for men.

At the time of writing, as the ethnic aggression intensifies in
Kosovo/Kosova and as NATO bombing shows no signs of ending, a situation has
arisen in which there is very little space indeed for this kind of politics
by women. Even less than usual. The little space that is sometimes there
has
closed right down, not just in Yugoslavia, but in the UK too. What is
happening is polarization, a kind of 'either/or' politics.

Take, for example, the big demonstration on Sunday April 11 called by the
Committee for Peace in the Balkans, largely framed by the Socialist Worker
Party, at which the speakers included many well-known names from the
British
Left. Some of us took the Women in Black banner along. Many of the Women in
Black network in London want to oppose NATO bombing. Our opposition (I feel
safe in saying) is not to protect Serb nationalist extremism but precisely
because we would see the bombardment as strengthening not weakening it. For
that reason we have been holding vigils in London. But, on April 11, even
as
the march assembled on the Embankment, I was feeling uneasy. Because there
was this ocean of pre-planned Socialist Worker placards that simply said
'stop the NATO bombing'. Any messages opposing the ethnic aggression of the
Milosevic regime were overwhelmed by this uniform and singular demand. Then
we reached Downing Street, where the march was joined by a strong
contingent
of Serb nationalists and their supporters. We were surrounded by the Serb
national flag, the characteristic three finger salutes, and many people
wearing the new 'target' symbols that have been adopted in Belgrade since
the bombing.

At the bottom of Trafalgar Square things got very confrontational. To the
left, held back behind barriers, was a militant Kosovan
counter-demonstration supporting the bombing. And shouting back from 'our'
side of the road were angry Serb nationalists, some of them carrying a
scaffold with an effigy of Clinton. At that point I took down and folded up
the Women in Black banner. It seemed the wrong place to have it. Some of us
women decided that we wanted to go and meet people on the Kosovan
demonstration. We wanted to find out whether they were all Kosova
Liberation
Army, to see what other groups might be represented there behind the macho
front, and talk with them. We wanted at least to let them know that there
were some people on the main march who, although you wouldn't know it, not
only opposed bombing, but also opposed Milosevic and what his regime was
doing in Kosovo.

The police tri

Re: [CTRL] FW: Konformist

[Amelia Kay Edgeman]

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Das, I've been thinking about Monday being April 19 for a long time now.
Also HBO is showing new movie WACO:  RUles of Engagement.  The time
April 18-22 has bad history.  Plus the 2 yr. pattern of Waco, OKC,
_?  Let's hope there is already enough evil going on with war and
nothing domestically happens.
AKE

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

[nessie]

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>a weapon is what you make it. i do think it's very irresponsible to teach
children to kill though.

Given what a

>violent society we live in.

how responsible is it to not teach our children how to defend themselves?

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

[Andrew Hennessey]

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>>
>I wondered why the Colonel didn't respond that it was irrresponsible NOT to
>teach youngsters how to handle a firearm - "violent society we live in."
>Learning to use a weapon is not learning to kill; it is learning to defend
>oneself. There are statistics indicating that firearms are used more often in
>the prevention of violent crimes than in the commission of them.

probably because he is a mentally ill sociopath.

Andrew Hennessey
>

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Re: [CTRL] Does K = (or approximate) K?

[Andrew Hennessey]

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well  Korea fits those other disasters in the World having the
phoenetic letters of CO/KO?CHAOS in them  so KO-rea fits the model
that some mad alien playing around with global destiny is familiar with
the 'ki' / 'ko' sound from Chaos, doesn't know how to spell, but can
make shit happen 
Waco/oklahoma/tokyo/kosova/milosovich/Clinton ... koreaetc

>1) If the US-led coalition wins, the world's policeman will consolidate its
>strength and be on the lookout for human rights violations elsewhere on the
>globe to justify forceful intervention. China is too big to attack, Japan
>and ROK are allies, home to US troops. North Korea stands out on the short
>list.
>
>A victorious US might then call North Korea's bluff: let your people free or
>be bombed. The recent US agreement to pay North Korea $300 million (in food
>aid so as not to appear to be a bribe) to get one-time access to a big hole
>in the ground at the suspected nuclear site may not be as foolhardy as it
>appears. It may in fact be a cost-effective investment that permits the
>electronic infiltration of North Korea parallel to the CIA-infiltrated
>UNSCOM teams that collected vital information prior to the December 1998
>bombing in Iraq.
>
>

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

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Gotta agree with u Jim the kids here who are taught gun safety and go to the
classes-know what a gun can do and are less likely to use them in anger
liz

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[CTRL] A Conspiracy for World Domination

[Harold McCarty]

Is there a conspiracy of cults and secret 
societies that are attempting to control the world and turn it into a place that 
where freedom of thought will be a thing of the past? Here is a link that 
provides insight into the elusive answers to these perplexing questions. And 
maybe we all can come closer to understanding what is truely going on in the 
world.

http://www.technostud.com/cyberworld/wwwboard/messages/3.html
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[CTRL] Fw: Bloodlined Breeder Women Betrayed - TEST MESSAGE

[Harold McCarty]

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BLOODLINED BREEDER WOMEN BETRAYED
=

(CNNS, 04/14/99) --  An  article  by  "Judith  ABR" discloses the
strong possibility that "breeder women" are  being  exploited  by
criminal syndicates. [1]

According  to  the  author,  she  has  been routinely targeted by
unscrupulous persons who inseminate  her, then steal her recently
conceived fetus, and next implant  her developing fetus into less
fertile women.

The claim has the ring of truth.  More honest persons  have  been
widely  reported  to  be  paying  tall,  high-IQ women as much as
$50,000 for use of  their  ova.   A  black market in such greatly
coveted ova, given economic laws of supply and demand,  would  be
normally expected.

For  the less honest, just as they purchase auto parts from "chop
shops," so too they'd have no qualms about ova piracy.

The author says that she  has  learned  "that my fetuses may have
been  'transferred  into'  other  women  by   specialized   crime
syndicates  who  could  make a great deal of money farming out my
ovum, utilizing advanced technologies and drugs."

"With sterility rates skyrocketing...  harvesting women is a very
lucrative business," writes the author.

There may also be a "master race," eugenics angle:   "Some  women
appear  to  be  'marked'  as  bloodlined  breeders  by particular
eugenics  rings."   For  whatever  reason,  as  in  the  case  of
pedigreed dogs, a whole  group  of  women  may be "the chosen" of
amateur "master race" eugenicists.

---<< Notes >>---
[1] "Breeder-Bloodline Cults," by Judith ABR.  Paranoia magazine,
Spring 1999, issue 20.

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Re: [CTRL] Skolnick: Questions About Serbia (fwd)

[Sno0wl]

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On 17 Apr 99, , Brian wrote:


> SKOLNICK: QUESTIONS ABOUT SERBIA
> 
>
> (CNNS,  04/17/99)  --  Sherman  H.  Skolnick,  of  the  Citizens'
> Committee to Clean Up  the  Courts, reports as follows.  (Contact
> info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office, 773-375-5741):
>
> --
> Questions About Serbia
> By Sherman H. Skolnick
.


> Some day an international tribunal may declare the  U.S.  as  war
> criminals   and   required  to  pay  damages  to  Serbia.   Great
> grandchildren of present Americans  may  have  to pay the bill to
> reconstruct Serbia.  Is this all  a  scheme  to  wreck  the  U.S.
> Dollar in favor of the new European currency, the Euro Dollar?

The plan is that after Kosovo has been burned to the ground, the Bush boys will go
over there and rebuild it and make trillions. Whatever skullduggery takes place, we
won't have to worry about Bush Jr. having any trouble since the Office of the
Independent Counsel will by then be abolished...so he won't have any trouble on that
score.

And all you Clinton-bashers will be happy--what with Bill and Hill long gone. Those
Republicans have much more serious things to do than messing around with silly little
interns.
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[CTRL] 50 Years of Research Results in AIDS??

[Lloyd Miller]

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CHAPTER SIXTEEN: Epilogue

We have examined some of the more important leukemia/sarcoma research over
the last 50+ years and have attempted to trace the evolution of that
research as it moved from virus to virus and species to species. As we have
examined the evolutionary progress of this research we have seen a fairly
clear picture of the paradigm guiding studies of leukemia/sarcoma. At the
risk of gross simplification of that paradigm but in the interest of some
summarization, our study of the related history has shown:


1. Interest in a chicken sarcoma (Rous's sarcoma) going back to at least
1911.
2. Investigations of enzymatic/metabolic cellular process during the 1930s.
3. Interest in T-cell agents, e.g., lymphocytic choriomeningitis (LCM), as
well as mouse mammary tumor-related agents and experimentally-induced
allergic encephalomyelitis in the mid-to-late 1930s.  These studies were in
the context of discerning agents capable of neurological attack.
4. Extensive interest in Rous's sarcoma, latent progressively-infecting
viruses, e.g. progressive mouse pneumonia, as well as allergic
encephalomyelitis in the early 1940s during World War II.
5. Further study of aspects of erythroblastosis and myeloblastosis effects
of Rous's sarcoma as well as growing interest in mouse mammary tumor-related
agents in the later 1940s and early 1950s.
6. Creation/passage of mouse T-cell-related-leukemias using mammary
tumor-prone mice during the early 1950s (e.g., Gross's AKR work with
C3H-strain mammary tumor-prone mice). Other studies involved infection of
bovine and human cells with the slow-infecting sheep Maedi-Visna virus.
7. Investigations and recovery of various simian viruses, simian foamy
viruses, ECHO viruses (e.g., ECHO-10), polio virus, and measles and
understanding their interaction with cells during the mid-1950s. Many viral
agents of the myxovirus/paramyxovirus family were studied.
8. Discovery by Burkitt of jaw tumors in African children and the associated
Burkitt's B-cell-tropic/immunoglobin IgM-related lymphoma in 1958.
9. Infection of mouse and rat cells with "Prague-strain" Rous avian sarcoma
virus in the early 1960s.
10. Discovery of viral agents capable of disturbing important metabolic
enzyme processes (e.g., lactic dehydrogenase-elevating virus) and their
association with cancers in the early 1960s.
11. Discovery/creation/passage of new mouse/rat leukemia/sarcoma viruses
throughout the decade of the 1960s, e.g., the Rauscher, Moloney, Kirsten,
and Harvey retroviruses.
12. Attempts to hybridize both types of viruses and types of species' cells
using such agents as Simian Virus 40 (SV40), reoviruses (e.g., reovirus type
3), human adenoviruses (e.g., adenovirus types 2, 12, and 18), bovine
reovirus and parainfluenza type 3 throughout the decade of the 1960s.
13. Infection of human and simian cells with the "Prague-strain" of Rous
avian sarcoma in 1964.
14. Use of genes from the Moloney sarcoma virus to alter virtually any mouse
leukemia virus into its related sarcoma virus in the later 1960s; thus
hypothetically allowing for creation of an infinite number of sarcomas from
leukemias originating from viral, chemical, or radiation-related causes.
15. Passage of various Moloney sarcoma-related agents to various species'
cells, e.g. to cats, in the later 1960s and hybridization of Moloney-related
cat sarcomas with dog-related melanomas to create a transmissible
fibrosaroma virus. Also seen is the infection of human embryonic cells with
the Rauscher mouse leukemia agent.
16. Appearance of unusual numbers of Kaposi's sarcoma occurring in residents
of Tanzania, a country in east Africa in 1967.
17. Appearance of a fibrosarcoma in a pet Woolly monkey and the transmission
of that disease to a gibbon ape (also kept as a pet) causing a
T-cell-related leukemia in infected gibbons in the late 1960s. Both bovine
(cow) cells and porcine (pig) cells are infected by the ovine (sheep)
Maedi-Visna virus in 1968.
18. Appearance of patients with acute lymphocytic leukemias related to the
gibbon ape/woolly monkey retrovirus as well as Kirsten virus-related
myelogenous leukemia in the early 1970s.
19. Appearance of "new" T-cell-tropic human leukemias (later called "Human
T-cell Lymphotropic Viruses" or HTLV) in the mid-to-later 1970s. Some of
these viruses show genetic elements similar to the Rauscher mouse leukemia
virus. In 1977, human acute/chronic leukemic cells are found to be capable
of being productively infected by the "Bovine Visna Virus" (not yet called
the Bovine Immunodeficiency Virus). HIV-1 retrovirus physically resembles
the Visna virus and both are considered "lentiviruses," i.e., slow-acting
infectious agents.
20. First recognition of HIV-1 infection and "AIDS" in North Americans in
the early 1980s. Genetic elements of HIV-1 also include nucleotide sequences
similar to the Rauscher mouse leukemia virus as well as the Maedi-Visna
virus and Bovine leukemia virus.
The above very simplistic 

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

[AOL User]

 -Caveat Lector-

Have two cents to put in re Hitler being demon possessed.

Joseph Carr in "The Twisted Cross" wrote that when Hitler was l2 he was
listening to some Wagnerian opera and the devil spoke to him and Hitler
willingly, knowingly asked the devil inside to take him over.

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[CTRL] Similarity of HIV to Intensively Researched Visna Virus (Sheep)

[Lloyd Miller]

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http://home.talkcity.com/AcademyDr/robtlee/biow14.html

Both Sonigo et al. (1985) [24] and Gonda et al. (1985) [25] found
substantial genetic similarities existing between visna virus and the AIDS
virus, HIV-1. You will recall the use of visna virus and "progressive
pneumonia virus" to transform mouse cells by Takemoto and Stone (1971) [26]
and the comparison of visna, progressive pneumonia virus and Rous sarcoma
virus by Takemoto et al. (1973) [27]. Presence of both visna genetic
sequences and RSV-related mouse erythroleukemia retrovirus genetic sequences
in HIV-1, given historic investigations, appears to be indicative that the
origin of the AIDS virus may be something other than a "chance mutation" in
some remote nowhere.

Peluso et al. (1985) reported a "trojan horse mechanism" for the spread of
visna virus in mononuclear phagocytes (monocytes) [28]. Significantly,
Anderson and Yunis (1983) described the use of "trojan horse" leukocytes by
the human AIDS retrovirus to infect cells [29]. There can be little doubt
that HIV-1, the AIDS retrovirus, is substantially related to visna virus. We
will now leave the sheep sub-paradigm.

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[CTRL] FW:CORRUPTION ALERT!! alleged slush fund for the L.A. Superior Court Judges

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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(If it can happen in the City of Angels, then it more than likely is
happening in some of the many other jurisdictions throughout the Nation.)

Emotionally
>...distraught litigants are questioning whether a cozy financial
>connection between judges, attorneys and some court-appointed
>professionals in the City of Angels is affecting the outcome of their
>cases.

Bard

Visit me at:
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Federal Government defined:
a benefit/subsidy protection racket!

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Subject: Fw: Utterly Corrupt Judges
  Date:  Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:03:26 -0500
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-Original Message-
From: Jack Perrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 2:29 PM
Subject: Utterly Corrupt Judges


>
>
>Is Justice for Sale in L.A.?
>By Kelly Patricia O'Meara
>Insight
>
>
> An alleged slush fund for the L.A. Superior Court Judges
>Association is at the heart of a scandal involving possible income-
>tax evasion and gifts that may affect judges' rulings.
>
>Child-custody cases always are heart-wrenching, but a three-
>month probe by Insight has unearthed an added twist for parents
>with cases before the Superior Court in Los Angeles. Emotionally
>distraught litigants are questioning whether a cozy financial
>connection between judges, attorneys and some court-appointed
>professionals in the City of Angels is affecting the outcome of their
>cases. Friends of the court are concerned that, at the very least,
>there is a strong appearance of impropriety.
>
>. . . . Private bank accounts that benefit judges are at the heart of
>this brewing scandal -- one that state and local agencies resolutely
>have failed to investigate, adding further suspicion. Bank accounts
>funded in part by fees from local lawyers and others involved in
>the family-court system are troubling litigants. Many feel it is
>impossible to know whether they're facing a judge who has
>benefited financially from an attorney appearing before the court.
>
>. . . . Former presiding judge Robert Parkin tells Insight that an
>account critics dub a slush fund is nothing more than "coffee-and-
>flowers" cash for the Los Angeles Superior Court Judges
>Association, or LASCJA. But documents obtained by Insight show
>the bank account served a great many purposes and that the
>judges' association, a private organization, did not pay taxes on
>funds run through the account for the benefit of its members --
>who also would be subject to taxes.
>
>. . . . Law-enforcement sources are nervous and concerned about
>the LASCJA accounts. They and county officials tell Insight not
>the least of the concerns is that for years county employees, paid
>by the taxpayers, were at the same time working on the LASCJA's
>books. This is because before filing for federal tax-exempt status in
>late 1997, the LASCJA was using the federal employer-
>identification number, or EIN, of Los Angeles County, which in
>turn covered the fact that the judges were not paying taxes on the
>outside income they moved through their association.
>
>. . . . "On the face of it, there appear to have been one or several
>laws that may have been broken, but without specific information
>it is impossible to know what statutes are applicable," says Beth
>Miller, a spokeswoman for California Secretary of State Bill Jones.
>At the federal level a spokesman for the IRS who declined to be
>named said that an act of this nature "may fall under Section
>72.061 of the tax code -- fraud and false statements."
>
>. . . . How much money is involved? Plenty. Just one of the
>LASCJA Bank of America account statements shows this alleged
>"coffee-and-flowers" fund with a balance of $110,000, according
>to copies secured by Insight.
>
>. . . . Parents with business before the Superior Court say they feel
>caught in a web of judicial deceit that borders on an organized
>racket. But for years their requests for an investigation fell on deaf
>ears, as elected officials and law-enforcement agencies did
>nothing. Enter Marvin Bryer, a retired computer analyst in La
>Crescenta, Calif.
>
>. . . . Bryer became ensnared with the family-court system after his
>daughter, Karen, was faced with losing custody of her 2-year-old
>son. Having spent nearly $100,000 on attorneys and research fees,
>Bryer took matters into his own hands and has been campaigning
>for a probe of a system that he claims "purposefully profits off the
>conflict of the families in litigation." He says, "I felt violated,
>almost numb, when I learned that the judges were making money
>through the child-custody system. The ju

Re: [CTRL] Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

[Kevin]

 -Caveat Lector-

"As I pointed out in a previous post, there are a lot of inaccuracies in

> this book. I would not consider anything that Dr. Coleman says as
> confirmation of anything.
>
> Howard Davis
>

 So there are some inaccuracies in the book, do you then dismiss the ENTIRE book and
everything that author has written?  Just posting the only confirmation on the entire
net I could find about it.

BTW. I looked for you previous post and couldn't find it. Can you send me the
inaccuracies pls.? I haven't got the time to read all relevant books and cross
reference the information in hopes of getting all the correct information. Isn't that
what this list is for?
  Kevin

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[CTRL] Fallout from LDS Library Shooting

[Das GOAT]

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 "[Salt Lake City police] want psychiatrists to be required to report to
the state Department of Public Safety the names of all people diagnosed with
any one of a list of particular mental illnesses ...
 ... so that gun dealers would be barred from selling to anyone on the
list.

 "Television coverage of the NATO attack in Kosovo, reminding [the
shooter] of his wartime youth, a might have spurred his deadly attack.".



Utah Mulls Shooting Circumstances

By HANNAH WOLFSON
.c The Associated Press

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- A mentally ill man's shooting rampage at the Mormon
Family History Library has left health officials, law enforcement and the
gunman's son arguing over whether the tragedy could have been averted.

``It's so terrible, so shocking and it could have easily been prevented,''
said Alex Babarin, 48.

His 71-year-old father, Sergei Babarin, walked into the library Thursday and
opened fire, killing two people and wounding four before police killed him.

While Alex Babarin said Friday that the mental health system should have been
more attentive, Salt Lake County mental health officials said they did
everything they legally could.

Meanwhile, Police Chief Ruben Ortega pushed for new laws to keep guns out of
the hands of certain mentally ill people.

``This is ludicrous. It's happening too much all over the country and
innocent people are dying,'' Ortega said.

The chief focused on loopholes in parts of the 1994 Brady bill, which
prohibits the sale of guns to those who have been declared mentally
incompetent. Ortega said the problem is that few of Utah's 100,000 people
diagnosed with mental illness meet a threshold required by law, which
essentially requires a person to be a clear and imminent danger to himself or
others.

Ortega wants psychiatrists to be required to report to the state Department
of Public Safety the names of people diagnosed with any one of a list of
particular mental illnesses. Gun dealers would then be barred from selling to
anyone on the list.

``That's so doable and it makes so much sense,'' Ortega said. ``We can work
out the law to give the doctors and patients protection.''

But Alex Babarin said that law wouldn't have deterred his paranoid father's
murderous impulses.

``He could just take a car and run people down,'' Babarin said

Babarin said he fought to get his father committed for nearly a year. Just
two days before the shooting, his father accused him of spying and being out
to get him -- the same charges he leveled against his wife, his neighbors,
even people passing in the street.

But his illness went untreated because he also feared doctors and refused to
take the medication prescribed to him, calling it poison.

In recent weeks Sergei Babarin had said television coverage of the NATO
attack in Kosovo reminded him of his wartime youth, and his son thinks that
might have spurred Thursday's deadly attack.

``It would have been easily prevented, just by taking him for a few days or a
few weeks at the hospital, start him taking medicine,'' Babarin said.

But Valley Mental Health center did not admit him because doctors there did
not diagnose him with schizophrenia.

Dr. Michael Stevens, Valley's clinical director, said the hospital could not
declare him incompetent for fear of violating his civil rights, which demand
an involuntary patient show an imminent threat of endangering himself or
others.

Instead, it was determined that Babarin would be admitted if he showed
further signs of danger.

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[CTRL] G6PD differences exist between blacks and whites; G6PD is elevated in persons infected with AIDS

[Lloyd Miller]

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http://home.talkcity.com/AcademyDr/robtlee/biow12.html

Study of metabolic diseases progressed [85] during the period. You will
recall that cancer is, itself, a metabolic disease that results from the
disturbance of cellular enzyme-regulating genes. Consideration of the
historic study of the glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) enzyme in the
context of what we have learned so far is rather interesting given the fact
that G6PD is elevated in persons infected with AIDS [86]. Here is a sample
of G6PD historic research in its historic context:

1. Cori and Cori (1952) examine G6PD of the liver in glycogen storage
disease [87].

2. Marks and Gross (1959) report evidence that genetically determined blood
G6PD differences exist between blacks and whites [88].

3. Boyer et al. (1962) investigate G6PD deficiencies in humans [89].

4. Beutler and Collins (1965) hybridize G6PD from rat and human blood [90].

5. Yoshida (1966) purifies G6PD from human blood and characterizes the
"normal" enzyme [91].

6. Yoshida et al. (1967) reports a "negro variant" G6PD deficiency in humans
[92].

7. Shaw (1966) discovers G6PD similarities in mice and humans [93].

8. Nicheles and Garshein (1968) report virus-caused destruction of red
G6PD-deficient red blood cells [94].

9. Nelson-Rees et al. (1974) report the presence of HeLa-like chromosomes,
now called "Philadelphia chromosomes," and a "negro-variant" G6PD in human
cells producing Mason-Pfizer monkey virus-like particles [95].

Clearly, historic investigation of G6PD which documents interest in racial
differences followed by isolation of identical enzymes from rats and mice as
well as later appearance of a viral-caused anemia in racially variant G6PD
red blood cells and the still later appearance of an immunologically active
virus in this type of cell is a rather interesting chain of developments.
That G6PD levels are raised in AIDS patients and that, in the United States,
blacks and minorities are disproportionately infected by HIV-1, given the
history of G6PD, appears to suggest that this phenomenon might be due to
more than chance. You have, no doubt, heard many reasons for AIDS’
disproportionate attack on minorities which have generally specified the
"high occurrence of immoral behavior among these groups." An alternative
hypothesis may rest in HIV's apparent ability to exploit racial genetic
differences governing production of important metabolic cellular enzymes.

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[CTRL] Monday, April 19

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Okla. City, Waco Anniversaries Loom

By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Justice Department security officials on Thursday issued
their annual security warning to employees about the April 19 anniversary of
the Oklahoma City federal building bombing and the assault on a religious
compound in Waco, Texas.

``Although the FBI does not have any specific threat information concerning
the week of April 19,'' Justice Security Officer D. Jerry Rubino issued the
annual warning ``to raise your level of security awareness.''

The FBI sends a similar alert to federal, state and local law enforcement
around the country each year at this time.

Rubino noted that April 19 is ``meaningful to self-styled patriots in the
current militia movements.''

On that date in 1995, the Oklahoma City federal building was bombed by
Timothy McVeigh, a drifter who had expressed anger over the assault by
federal agents on April 19, 1993 on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco,
Texas. McVeigh has been sentenced to death; two other men have been convicted
as accomplices.

More than 70 residents of the compound died at Waco of various causes as a
fire broke out during the assault. The Oklahoma City blast killed 168 people
and injured hundreds of others.

April 19 also is the anniversary, Rubino pointed out, of the 1775 battles
between British soldiers and American Minutemen at Lexington and Concord,
Mass.

Rubino noted the week ends with the 50th anniversary celebration here of the
North Atlantic Treaty Organization and ``the continuing conflict in the
Balkans also has the potential for initiating terrorist threats'' aimed at
NATO officials.

Rubino said all identification badges will be checked on entrances to Justice
buildings and arriving packages will be X-rayed. He advised employees with
windows on the street to close their blinds or shades.

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[CTRL] German General Leads NATO into the Millennium

[Das GOAT]

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 "Because of Kosovo, Moscow has broken relations with NATO.
 ['They'll be back,"] says NATO's General Naumann. 'To be polite, I won't
point out who needs who more desperately.' "


German General Helped Steer NATO

By JEFFREY ULBRICH
.c The Associated Press

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) -- Klaus Naumann, the four-star German general who
heads NATO's military arm, bristles a bit when asked if the attacks on
Yugoslavia are an illustration of the 19-nation alliance's future.

It's not quite that simple, says Naumann, 59, who shortly will end his tour
as NATO's top general: Military action will always be a last resort. NATO
will never be quick to take up arms, he says.

The difference between the old Cold War NATO and the emerging alliance, he
says, is that the old one was focused on a one-dimensional threat --
aggression by the Warsaw Pact. And that, ultimately, was easy to understand.

``This threat has disappeared, but what has emerged is a Europe which is full
of uncertainties and instabilities,'' said Naumann, described by some at NATO
as a superb combination of diplomat and military strategist. ``We have a new
risk pattern -- multifaceted, multidirectional.''

As NATO prepares to celebrate its 50th birthday at a summit meeting in
Washington later this month, explaining these new threats to the public is a
prime concern. Bewildered citizens are sometimes unclear what vital interests
are at stake in an obscure place like Kosovo.

``It's difficult to convey the message,'' Naumann acknowledged. ``It's
difficult to understand it because we are focused on the traditional concept
of defense as something for a national state ... more or less tied to the
defense of a nation's territory.''

Increasingly, however, risks transcend one nation and can't be fought with
national approaches.

``Even the most powerful country of the alliance, the United States of
America, became vulnerable against non-state actors,'' said Naumann,
referring to terrorists and fanatical groups that can acquire weapons of mass
destruction. ``No one can defeat the Americans militarily, but non-state
actors can pose a threat.''

Naumann is chairman of the NATO Military Committee, which approves and
oversees the plans and activities of Gen. Wesley Clark, the alliance's
supreme allied commander for Europe who is running the Kosovo operation.

In that role, Naumann sees new types of conflicts emerging, like Bosnia,
where NATO still heads nearly 30,000 peacekeeping troops, or Kosovo, where a
humanitarian tragedy threatens to destabilize the Balkans, menacing the
security of all of Europe.

Collective defense remains at the core of NATO's policy, where an attack
against one member is considered an attack against all. But the alliance also
tries to prevent conflicts and manage crises, Naumann says, which means ``we
will act at the periphery of the treaty area and beyond the treaty area on a
case-by-case basis.'' Thirdly, the alliance tries to project stability by
creating partnerships with countries like Russia and Ukraine.

There are satisfactions in a job like his, says Naumann, who also worked at
NATO as a young colonel dealing with nuclear matters. What has exasperated
him is that his fellow Europeans haven't been able to show more cohesion and
take more responsibility for Europe's security into their own hands.

``They feel like Popeye, but they have forgotten to take their can of
spinach,'' says Naumann.

In the German general's view, ``there is not much resolve to show the way, to
act as Europeans, to take a little bit of the burden on their shoulders.''

One of the greatest challenges, he said, has been establishing a meaningful
post-Cold War relationship with Russia. That was started two years ago by
creating the NATO-Russia Permanent Joint Council -- but Russia's unhappiness
with NATO's bombing Yugoslavia has put that cooperation on hold.

Through the joint council, Naumann says, the Russians had hoped to have a say
in anything NATO does.

``I think this is the point which was so disappointing for them. They had
hoped NATO would not take any decision at all without having them asked to
rubber-stamp it,'' he said.

But because of Kosovo, Moscow has broken relations with NATO and recalled its
military representative, something Naumann fears could last for some time.

``I do hope they will reconsider, since they need us and we need them,'' he
said. ``I'll leave it open, in order to be polite, who needs who more
badly.''

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[CTRL] Greece Suffers from Kosovo

[Das GOAT]

 -Caveat Lector-

 The EU is all about MONEY, of course, and NATO is the EU's "enforcer."


Kosovo Conflict Harms Greece

.c The Associated Press

ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Greece's economy has been hurt by the Kosovo crisis
but remains on track to qualify for Europe's single currency, Premier Costas
Simitis said Saturday.

Simitis told senior members of his governing Socialist Party that growth was
now expected to fall half a percentage point short of the projected 3.5
percent this year.

Greece is the only country in the 15-member European Union that has not
qualified for the euro and hopes to meet entry criteria by the end of the
year. Britain, Denmark and Sweden have opted out of the currency for now.

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[CTRL] Kurds Protest in Germany

[Das GOAT]

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80,000 Join Kurd Protest in Germany

BONN, Germany (AP) -- More than 80,000 people gathered Saturday in Bonn for a
demonstration demanding more democracy in Turkey and the release of jailed
Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan.

Organizers said participants came from around Europe to the daylong event,
held on a meadow across the Rhine River from Bonn's government quarter.

Through chants and banners, the crowd called for a political solution to
Turkey's Kurdish problem and the release of Ocalan, who was arrested in
February and faces treason charges in Turkey.

Police, who had stepped up security around the city, reported no disturbances
or arrests, although traffic was tied up considerably for a time.

More than 37,000 people have died as a result of fighting since Ocalan's
Kurdistan Workers Party took up arms in 1984 in a bid to gain autonomy.

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[CTRL] ALERT! "Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.". Thomas Paine

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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URGENT! URGENT!
PLEASE  PLEASE  PLEASE  write to Bill O'Reilly at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bard


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 6:01 PM
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->  SNETNEWS  Mailing List

Bruce Chesley wrote:
>
>  From the GSL list.  I have forwarded the Federal Anti Domestic
> Genocide Law to O'Reilly.
> Bruce Chesley,
> Truth is a terrible cross to bear.
> A Tater Tot is better than no spud at all.
> "Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.".  Thomas Paine
> I'm a bomb technician.  If you see me running, try to keep up (tshirt).
> - Begin forwarded message --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: GSL> [Fwd: VITAL E-MAIL ALERT: PLEASE READ]
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:02:11 -0600
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I cannot stress this enough. Your immediate action is necessary for this
> to
> work. If you care about the federal abuses in Waco, please continue
> reading
> this important post. If you really don't give a damn, kindly hit the
> delete
> key and go back to sleep.
>
> As you can see by the addresses in the header, I am aiming at having this
> post being spread as far and wide as is humanly possible over the next
> 24-hours. I am only asking you to write a *brief* paragraph making a
> simple
> request of a national television news host. If he is hit with *thousands*
> (that's my goal) of e-mails on the subject, we may be able to wake up a
> *lot* of sleeping Americans to a bitter reality.
>
> Earlier today (April 15, 1999) Dan Gifford, Executive Producer of the
> Academy Award Nominated documentary _Waco: The Rules of Engagement_, was
> on
> FOX News' "The O'Reilly Factor" with Bill O'Reilly. Suffice it to say,
> Dan
> comported himself brilliantly, but O'Reilly was less than convinced that
> there was anything substantive to what Dan had to say regarding the media
> lie that has been spun regarding Waco since 1993.
>
> Because the "shortened" version of the film will be airing on HBO this
> coming Monday, April 19 (the sixth anniversary of the conflagration), and
> the fact that FOX News took the time to do the story on air today, we
> have
> an amazing opportunity to do what we've been unable to achieve until
> now...
> and an extremely short time period in which to do it.
>
> Bill O'Reilly said that he had not yet seen the film, but that he
> intended
> to watch it. I am asking you now to hold his feet to the fire... no pun
> intended.
>
> PLEASE  PLEASE  PLEASE  write to Bill O'Reilly at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> and ask that he have Dan Gifford back on the show to discuss the film's
> most horrific revelation, the now infamous FLIR (Forward-Looking
> Infrared)
> footage of the government firing into the burning church in an attempt to
> make sure no one escaped the fire on Day 51.
>
> How can you do this on Monday if you didn't see "The O'Reilly Factor" on
> Thursday or haven't seen the film on HBO? Simple. Tell him you've seen
> the
> film and feel it's crucial for him to have Dan Gifford back on the show
> to
> explain some of the footage and what it could mean to the responsible
> parties in the government should the film become public on such a widely
> viewed news program as O'Reillys show.
>
> Please make your e-mail brief, make it flattering to his program and
> journalistic integrity, and make it sound like a concerned citizen rather
> than a cammo-clad nutcase writing an anti-government tirade. O'Reilly
> loves
> a heated debate, but he abhors ignorant banter.
>
> Here's an example of the tone and content approach to take:
>
> Dear Bill,
>
>   I was extremely impressed with your willingness to invite Dan Gifford
> of
> "Waco: The   Rules of Engagement" on your show. The controversy
> surrounding
> Waco demanded the  attention of investigative journalists, but there's
> been
> few to be found. After having seen it  for yourself, I sincerely hope
> that
> you will have Mr. Gifford back on your show to further explain the most
> shocking aspects of the documentary, especially the terrifying footage of
> the government firing on the Davidians as they attempted to flee their
> burning church.
>
>   Thank you for your outstanding work,
>
> Your Full Name
> Your City and State
>
> Remember, this is only an example, so please use it *only* as a guide. NO
> buzzwords. NO "insider" information-sharing. NO personal attacks. Just
> act
> like a very concerned viewer... which I hope you are. Stressing the fact
> that you expect him to have seen the film (as he promised on the air) for
> himself may well goad him into obtaining an original 136-minute copy from
> the producers so he can be better prepared in a subsequent interview.
> This
> is crucial. Why?
>
> IF WE CAN GET O'REILLY TO AIR THE FLIR FOOTAGE ON NATIONAL TELEVISION AND
> OPEN UP REAL DISCOURS

[CTRL] Japan's Surgical Assembly Line

[Das GOAT]

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Medical Errors Outrage Japan

By MARI YAMAGUCHI
.c The Associated Press

YOKOHAMA, Japan (AP) -- Instead of fixing a 74-year-old man's heart problem,
surgeons removed part of his right lung. Then they gave the 84-year-old with
the lung problem heart surgery.

But that's not all.

Eight hours later, as the misidentified patients were receiving post-op
transfusions, the hospital staff realized their error. Fortunately, the
patients both had the same type blood -- or else the transfusions might have
killed them, too.

Few cases of medical bungling in Japan have received as much publicity -- or
generated so much outrage -- as this one at the Yokohama City University
Hospital earlier this year.

Many experts, however, say there is little being done to address the
underlying problems: overworked doctors and a dangerously cavalier attitude
toward the quality of care.

``Patients are treated like machine parts on a conveyer belt. Doctors often
don't care about each patient, they don't even remember their faces,'' said
Makoto Kondo, a radiologist at Keio University Hospital, one of the best
medical facilities in Japan.

Since the botched surgeries in this city just south of Tokyo were revealed in
January, Japan's media has focused the national spotlight on similar, and at
times worse, mistakes around the country:

In February, a 58-year-old housewife died after a nurse accidentally injected
her with disinfectant instead of blood medication.

Also in February, a 61-year-old housewife went into shock after receiving
transfusions of the wrong blood type.

In March, a 7-year-old boy had to undergo an operation to remove part of a
surgical instrument mistakenly left inside his skull.

Doctors say fatigue from chronic overwork contributes to such errors. And
with advanced technology and the increasingly complex array of medications, a
simple mistake like a wrong syringe can easily kill a patient.

But critics of the medical status quo in Japan say such problems would not be
so bad if more was done to supervise the quality of doctors' performances.

Medical records, for example, are usually off-limits to patients. Doctors
need not even renew their licenses. And rarely are mistakes made public --
officials at the Yokohama hospital only acknowledged theirs after a national
newspaper reported them.

Shunya Ito, a member of Medio, a civil group investigating malpractice, said
the medical community's treatment of patients reflects its hierarchical
structure -- with patients on the lowest rung.

``We patients feel so intimidated that it's even difficult to ask doctors any
questions,'' he said.

Ito's 72-year-old father died six years ago at a hospital an hour after
beginning to receive an intravenous injection containing potassium. Ito sued,
and had medical experts saying the injection may have contributed to his
father's death.

The hospital denied any wrongdoing, and Ito lost the suit.

Some members of the medical community say hospitals are often too concerned
with protecting their own reputations -- at times resorting to illegal means.

Shigemi Oshida, professor of forensic medicine at Nihon University of
Medicine, said hospitals routinely destroy evidence of operating room
foul-ups.

``Japanese hospitals haven't tried to learn from mistakes,'' he said. ``And
by covering up, they fail to share valuable lessons.''

Because of the secrecy and difficulty in obtaining documents, victims of
hospital mistakes are rarely able to take legal action. But according to the
latest Supreme Court statistics, more are willing to try. Malpractice suits
have nearly doubled to 2,700 in 1998 from 1,508 cases 10 years ago.

Shamed into action, the government has formed an investigative panel and is
expected to announce its recommendations later this month.

``We were shocked,'' said Tatsuya Aoki, an official at the Health and Welfare
Ministry's department of health policy. ``The Yokohama case suggested this is
a universal problem.''

Staff at the Yokohama hospital, meanwhile, are taking more care to clearly
identify their patients and to double-check blood types before giving
transfusions.

``We learned an important lesson,'' said hospital spokesman Nobuo Uchida.
``Next time we make a mistake, there will be no future for our hospital.''

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[CTRL] Mr Smith, Where Are You When We Need You?

[Das GOAT]

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I'm rolling on the floor laughing ...  Here in San Francisco, the program
manager (or whoever decides on scheduling) of local TV station KGO is running
"Mr Smith Goes to Washington" -- What a counterpoint to "Wag the Dog"
buttkissing on other channels !

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[CTRL] Nuke Power India Melting-Down

[Das GOAT]

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India Businessmen Fears Instability

By RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM
.c The Associated Press

BOMBAY, India (AP) -- The defeat of India's federal government in a
confidence vote Saturday alarmed business and industry leaders who fear
long-term political instability, postponed economic reforms and worsening
investor confidence.

Minutes after the vote, the Bombay Stock Exchange index dropped 7 percent to
3,318 from Friday's close of 3,572.91. Stocks had surged 3.8 percent when the
market opened Saturday on expectations the government would win the vote.

``The market was desperately hoping for the government to scrape through,''
said K.R. Bharat, country manager of Credit Suisse First Boston, an American
investment unit. ``There will be huge uncertainty because the budget, seen as
investor-friendly, will not be passed. We will have to wait for the new
government to pass it.''

But Arjun Singh, a senior leader of the Congress Party -- which is poised to
form the next government -- said his party does not want to hold up the
finance bill. ``Congress is not interested in creating'' a financial mess,
Singh told Press Trust of India.

Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's government lost a confidence vote by
one ballot Saturday, and he submitted his resignation.

If the Congress Party fails to form a new government, new elections will be
called, four years ahead of schedule.

Industry leaders fear a minority government led by the Congress Party won't
bring stability.

Business leaders also fear that reforms of insurance and patent laws and
urban land rent ceilings will be sidelined with the possibility of the
country facing its fourth general election since 1991.

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[CTRL] Trial by Media for Yugoslavia - Is it Fair?

[Ronald Hudlin]

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Subject: "Kosovo Holocaust"...Says Larry King on CNN.

A couple of nights ago Larry King presented the prospect that the deaths
of the Kosovars in the Yugoslavian Civil War constitute a "Holocaust"
(King's wording). Now we don't want to get drawn into futile arguments of
Jewish Holocaust affirmers against deniers but let us ask the media
what the procedure is for having a historical event publicly recognized as
a "Holocaust". Surely this is vitally important in present circumstances.
   Is a "Holocaust" not a special kind of genocide in which those accused
are convicted in a "Trial by Media" such that the hearsay of accusers
(people pointing an accusing finger) and media pictures are sufficient to
obtain a conviction and the accused are not allowed a defence or an appeal
being forever branded as "evil hate mongers" if they so much as try to
defend themselves? Isn't that what happened to Germany concerning the
Jewish Holocaust? Should it happen to Yugoslavia now? I ask that also in
the context of the King, Downs, Bradlee, Greenfield, Ilic discussion. The
four US media people lauded the fairness of US media "justice" while Mr.
Ilic of Serb TV denied its fairness.
   There is another consequence to such a "Trial by Media" in that huge
amounts of compensation will go to the victimized community proportionate
to the numbers said to have been subjected to the genocide. Thus numbers
are very, very important. How are they decided upon? The US media, being
such fair minded people will not hesitate to ask Mr. Gorbachev if it is
true that he released the Death Books of Auschwitz just before stepping
down as President and that those Death Books revealed 74,000 deaths of all
ethnic groups over all time. If that is true then 4,000,000 is chopped off
the 6,000,000 figure in that holocaust. I would like to see Gorbachev and
King discussing this matter. After all, Yugoslavia needs a full expose on
what it means to be accused of a Holocaust by US Media...and the US Media
are ever so fair and just.
   While we are dealing with US Media Justice though let's roll back time
a little further and go to the Slavic Holocaust post-1917 when some
60,000,000 Slavs and their neighbours were subjected to genocide starting
in earnest when that enterprising New Yorker, Bronstein (Trotsky) set out
to lead the Red Army. Let's read "The Wolf of the Kremlin" by Kahan
(Morrow) and find out who else was responsible for the Slavic Holocaust.
And then we can expect the US Media to ask further if the US led
Yuogoslavian War is not THE FINAL SOLUTION to the Slavic problem. We will
soon know won't we, if the US undermines the kind of peace process which
Germany and Russia are now working out.
   And what HAS happened to the German-Russian peace proposal for
Yugoslavia? Is the USA too busy doing a Waco on Belgrade to consider it?
Mongo.

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[CTRL] Let's Promote Health Through AIDS! - World Health Organization

[Lloyd Miller]

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http://home.talkcity.com/AcademyDr/robtlee/biow9.html

Historical Context

To very briefly indicate the historical context of the above mentioned
research, consider the following: In 1972, the World Health Organization
published a proposal:

"An attempt should be made to ascertain whether viruses can in fact exert
selective effects on immune function, e.g., by ...affecting T cell function
as opposed to B cell function. The possibility should also be looked into
that the immune response to the virus itself may be impaired if the
infecting virus damages more or less selectively the cells responding to the
viral antigens." [160]

This is none other than a clinical description of the function of the AIDS
virus
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[CTRL] Elections in Turkey

[Das GOAT]

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Factions Vie in Turkish Elections

By LOUIS MEIXLER
.c The Associated Press

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Turkey's elections are emerging as a free-for-all
between squabbling secular parties and an Islamic movement whose leaders have
been hounded by the military and courts.

Secular Turks say the disunity could again propel the Islamic party into a
leadership position after Sunday's vote.

Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit's center-left party has been climbing in the
polls, boosted by public euphoria over the mid-February capture of Kurdish
guerrilla leader Abdullah Ocalan. But his Democratic Left Party is expected
to capture only 20 percent of the vote, about as much as the Islamic Virtue
Party, the largest in parliament.

Most of the other votes are expected to be divided between four major secular
parties. They all agree on the need for a pro-Western foreign policy and
economic privatization, but personality disputes among their leaders divide
them.

``Turkey cannot tolerate living through chaos again,'' the daily Sabah
newspaper wrote in a front-page editorial, saying that a future coalition
between Ecevit and a center-right secular party was needed for stability.

Revolving coalition governments formed by feuding secular parties combined
with a harsh crackdown by the military and courts against the Islamic
movement has created political instability in the past.

The military helped force Virtue's predecessor from government in 1997 and
the courts have jailed the charismatic ex-mayor of Istanbul on charges of
inciting religious hatred after he read a religious poem at a political
rally.

Virtue Party leader Recai Kutan told voters Saturday in the central city of
Kayseri, a stronghold of the Islamic movement, that their ballots will
``strike at those who (hurt) human rights, democracy and freedom.'' But many
analysts say he may be ignored by some voters who fear provoking the
military.

``The Virtue Party's vote will show how much political Islam is surviving in
Turkey,'' said Oral Calislar, a columnist with the Cumhuriyet newspaper. He
added that he does not expect the party to get more than the 20 percent its
predecessor received in the last elections.

The party, however, could find a place in a coalition government if the
secular parties are unable to band together.

In the largely Kurdish southeast, the pro-Kurdish People's Democracy Party,
or HADEP, appears poised to capture key mayorships, a development that would
be certain to raise the concerns of the all powerful Turkish military, which
is at war with autonomy-seeking Kurdish rebels.

Security forces broke up one of the party's rallies and have barred Kurdish
candidates from towns where they are running.

``There is so much pressure on HADEP in Turkey that they cannot compete
freely,'' Calislar said.

The vote in the southeast will be closely watched as a gauge of public
sentiment following Ocalan's capture. The war has claimed 37,000 lives.

On Saturday, Turkish soldiers killed eight Kurdish rebels, including a
commander, the Anatolia news agency reported. The fighting was touched off by
a rebel ambush on a military convoy Friday that killed six soldiers.

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[CTRL] The Enemy Eats at McDonalds, Watches CNN

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McDonald's in Belgrade Opens

By GEORGE JAHN
.c The Associated Press

BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (AP) -- In a city under NATO attack, a small event can
assume great meaning. Take, for instance, the reopening of a McDonald's
outlet vandalized last month by an anti-American mob.

Or the fact that tens of thousands ignored heavy rain and chilly winds -- not
to mention a wartime atmosphere -- to cheer runners in the annual Belgrade
marathon and an accompanying three-mile fun run.

``Let us show them (NATO) that our spirit is high and we are not afraid of
their bombs,'' a well-dressed elderly woman said, as she cheered the runners
on by waving her umbrella in the air.

In a city struggling to adjust to the NATO air campaign and the resulting
miseries -- nights in air raid shelters, gasoline shortages and fraying
nerves -- both events brought hopes of a return to normal life in the
capital.

``The main thing is that we are open,'' McDonald's employee Snezana
Atanazovic said.

Dozens of Belgraders lined up for their first fix of fries, shakes and
burgers since the seven McDonald's outlets closed in Belgrade on March 26.

That was two days after the first NATO missile struck Yugoslavia, releasing a
torrent of anti-U.S. feeling in a city of American fast-food addicts.

A mob targeted the McDonald's restaurant on downtown Terazije Square, along
with the nearby American Cultural Center and the U.S. Embassy a few miles
away, breaking windows and smearing outer walls with hateful slogans.

The center and embassy remain closed. But along with two other outlets, the
Terazije McDonald's opened Saturday despite signs that not all was right:
windows boarded over; a metal detector at the entrance; police nearby.

Belgraders came to eat -- or to stare.

``I went in just to see if it was open, because I didn't believe it when I
walked past,'' said Radomir Kratovac. ``I'm pleased but also surprised
because a lot of people in Belgrade remain resentful of America.''

Kratovac, 35, and others interpreted the reopening as a hopeful sign. ``It
means that normal life is returning somehow.''

Expressing the same sentiments in more elemental terms, Aleksandar
Simeonovic, 4, clamped down on a double-decker burger that half hid his face,
rolling his eyes when asked if it tasted good.

``Mmm, I missed this,'' he said, coming up for air.

His grandmother, Jelena Simeonovic, 53, said not all Belgraders shared the
sentiments of the mostly youthful mob that wrecked the restaurant.

``I am happy for this day, both for my grandson and because I hope it's a
sign things will get better,'' she said.

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[CTRL] Berezovsky the Bag Man

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Russian Sought on Money Laundering

MOSCOW (AP) -- A Russian billionaire who faces an investigation on money
laundering charges said he would return home from France on Sunday, news
reports said.

Boris Berezovsky, who is believed to have close ties to President Boris
Yeltsin, has vowed to fight the charges, which he says are part of a
political vendetta against him by Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov.

He had earlier said he would come back Saturday, but postponed the trip for a
day because of back pain, ITAR-Tass and Interfax both reported.

An arrest warrant was issued against him while he was in France on a business
trip. But the warrant was dropped after Berezovsky promised to return for
questioning.

Prosecutors allege Berezovsky was behind the illegal transfer of $250 million
from Russia's largest airline, Aeroflot, to the Swiss company Andava.

He denies the charges, saying they were trumped up by Primakov.

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 "In our strange age, an extremely wealthy man can BUY
himself a foreign policy.
 "Take, for example, GEORGE SOROS, the hedge-fund shaman who
has spent more than $1 billion to influence political conditions
in 31 countries around the globe: last year Mr. Soros alone
managed to outgive the U.S. in the lands of Hungary, Yugoslavia,
and Belarus. THAT's power.
 "And take the charter members of the multinational
Gulfstream-jet set, men like BILL GATES, Rupert Murdoch, Gianni
Agnelli, Jack Welch, Michael Eisner, Norio Ohga, BORIS
BEREZOVSKY, and Gustavo A. Cisneros.
 "They control the tentacles of industrial octopi so vast and
influential that heads of state must adhere to their words.
 "In some cases, in some countries, they must follow their
every whim ..."
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 from The Warsaw Voice, March 2, 1997 No 9 (436)

BEREZOVSKY CASE: An Offer Forbes Can't Refuse?

 A high-ranking Russian official is suing the magazine that
dubbed him "Godfather of the Kremlin."
 Boris Berezovsky, deputy secretary of the Russian
president's Security Council, is asking the American magazine
Forbes to pay him _100,000. This amount will just cover the fees
for the American and British lawyers hired by Berezovsky. George
Carman, reputed to be Britain's most expensive lawyer, is one of
them.
 In its Dec. 30, 1996 issue, Forbes published an extensive
article called "Godfather of the Kremlin?" in which it charged
Berezovsky with responsibility for the 1995 killing of popular
television journalist Vladimir Listev. The magazine also accused
Berezovsky of having numerous mafia connections and embezzling
$50 million collected by his company from thousands of Russians
who purchased AVVA shares-allegedly to start producing a new
passenger car.
 Berezovsky, aged 51, is one of the most interesting
personalities in the new Russia. He is a capable mathematician
and professor, and the author of more than 100 academic
publications. At the end of the 1980s, he became involved in
business. Using his contacts with the Volzhansky Car Factory, he
established the LogoVAZ company, which soon became the main
dealer for the popular Russian Lada cars.
 Berezovsky's unusual ability to acquire allies among the
highest authorities paid off when President Boris Yeltsin signed
a decree exempting LogoVAZ from customs duty on cars imported to
Russia. This allowed the company to become Russia's main dealer
in Mercedes, Volvos and other foreign makes.
 In 1993, LogoVAZ sales were estimated to be $250 million.
Berezovsky took the car market, reputed to be controlled by the
mob, by storm -- the most likely explanation for the attempt on
his life in 1994. A Mercedes with Berezovsky in it was destroyed
by a bomb planted in a nearby car. Berezovsky's chauffeur was
killed in the blast, and his bodyguard seriously injured, but he
was unhurt.
 This incident did not prevent the growth of Berezovsky's
empire. General Aleksandr Korzhakov, responsible for Yeltsin's
security at the time, was regarded as Berezovsky's main patron in
the Kremlin.
 With the help of the authorities, Berezovsky took control of
Russian television's main channel; he also holds a 30-percent
share in the Russian-American TV6 channel, the popular weekly
magazine Ogonyok and the newspaper Nezavisimaya Gazeta (read in
influential circles).
 He has set up his own bank, gains profits from Aeroflot, and
last year took over most of the shares of Sibneft, a leading oil
company.
 Berezovsky played a key role in last year's presidential
elections. He financed Yeltsin's election campaign, as well as
General Aleksandr Lebed's, to take as many votes from communist
leader Gennadi Zyuganov as possible.
 He used his "close acquaintance" with Yeltsin's favorite
daughter Tatyana Dyachenko to convince her of the need to remove
Korzhakov, whose friend he had been until recently.
 On Oct. 29, 1996 Yeltsin signed a decree appointing
Berezovsky deputy s

[CTRL] "Wag the Dog" Honored

[Das GOAT]

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Yugoslavs Honor 'Wag the Dog'

BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (AP) -- Yugoslavia's film academy announced Saturday it
awarded its top prize to ``Wag the Dog,'' a film about an American president
who fabricates a war in Albania to distract attention from a sex scandal.

The academy recognized the film's stars, director and producers, and it
invited them to travel to Belgrade to accept the award.

Belgrade TV stations aired Wag The Dog on March 26, two days after NATO began
pounding the country in air raids. The movie was also shown last summer.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Power in Y2K [Cowles & Koskinen]

[Das GOAT]

John Koskinen, George Grindley, Jr., Rick Cowles
 http://home.ica.net/~njarc/Docs/ckpower499.html

In early April, Liza called my attention to a March 3rd, 1999, message in a
thread in Ed Yourdon's Time Bomb! 2000 discussion forum:
  "Yesterday, someone posted in the Play by Play thread something about a
 Georgia representative who appeared on a radio talk show, saying that
Koskinen was telling state officials to make contingency plans for a
three-week power outage. A couple of us raised eyebrows at that, so Iinquired
who it was.
  "I took the time to call GA Rep. Grindley yesterday.  In our
conversation, he established this and divulged a bit more.  Mr. Grindley is
chair of Georgia's Task Force 2000.  In speaking with the CIO of Georgian
state systems, the CIO mentioned that Koskinen had told them to ensure their
contingency plans addressed 3 weeks without electric power."

(A "CIO" is a Chief Information Officer - the head computer person.)

I wrote to Representative George Grindley, Jr. to verify that.  Here's his
reply:

From: "george grindley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill Dale" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Electricity & Y2K
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:36:47 -0400

Dear Bill,

I did indeed make the statement that you attributed to me. John is using
three weeks as the outside possibilty, but I think things could get ugly.  I
wouldn't give you any odds that nuclear power will be working by then.  The
feds have said they must be compliant by July 1, or shut down.  It takes
about 4 months to totally shut down a plant.  Personally, I believe a serious
concern is the cyber terrorism of the power grid.  The department of defense
is really concerned that this is being planned.  This could last awhile under
these conditions.

 The truth is,...no one really knows for sure.  Prepare for the worst, hope
for the best, and weigh the risk of preparation with the risk of
non-preparation..

Yours in service,

George Grindley
State Rep. Dist. 35
Marietta Ga
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At about the same time, Cynthia Beal posted a note in the Millennium Salons
forum that pointed me toward Cory Hamasaki's DC Weather Report #113.  Along
with Rick Cowles' interesting account of events related to the Peach Bottom 2
nuclear plant losing its monitoring systems doing Y2K testing, there was this:
 "On February 26th, Rick [Cowles] spoke at Y2KWise in Maryland.  The
meeting was well attended; there were about 200 people who listened, asked
incisive and well thought out questions.

After the meeting, I spoke with Rick, got his private assessment.  Here's the
DC Y2K Weather Report confidential word from Rick:

1. Expect serious problems with power for about a month.  No guarantees one
way or the other but prepare for black outs, brown outs, rolling black outs,
voltage spikes, and other problems.

2.  For about a year, the power will be unstable.  There might be occasional
outages, dirty power, your refrigerator might blow up, more black outs but
not as frequent as in the first month.

3.  Some places will have more problems than others."
 (End quote.)

For those who've been trying to get a grip on the y2k power situation for the
past couple of years, taken seperately, these two statements (as interesting
as they are), are somehow "nothing new."  But taken together, and considering
they were made at approximately the same time in completely different
contexts, they somehow seem more "definitive" (in a world completely muddled
with, "No one knows"), and credible.  Actually, they almost seem like "the
outspoken radical" and the "ultra conservative" agreeing that it looks like
we're in for somewhere between two weeks and a month of serious power
trouble.  Rick has been at the forefront of y2k and power communications with
the general public since 1997.  John Koskinen (chairperson of the President's
Council on Year 2000 Conversion -- for anyone not familiar with him), has
been highly "low key" since taking that job in February of last year, working
hard to make sure no one panics over y2k.

So... Don't panic, but... You know.

Re: [CTRL] FW: Konformist

[Rich Zaengle]

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--- Das GOAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 99-04-17 19:44:36 EDT,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time
> to time with the blood of
> >patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure."
> >--- Thomas
> Jefferson, 1787
>
> Which reminds me:
> Monday is April 19th.  We can assume that the feds
> are on full alert again.
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Re: [CTRL] Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

[Howard R. Davis III]

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Kevin wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
>  This was confirmed by Dr. Coleman in the 92 version of THE COMMITTEE OF 300.  A
> rather curious line tucked in the end of the book, "and why don't they pursue SDI
> to protect us from Russian cosmospheres".
>

As I pointed out in a previous post, there are a lot of inaccuracies in
this book. I would not consider anything that Dr. Coleman says as
confirmation of anything.

Howard Davis

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Re: [CTRL] FW: Konformist

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In a message dated 99-04-17 19:44:36 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
>patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure."
>--- Thomas Jefferson, 1787

Which reminds me:
Monday is April 19th.  We can assume that the feds are on full alert again.

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Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

[Howard R. Davis III]

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Teo One Thousand wrote:
>

>
> It is a certainty that the music you speak of does have some effect upon the
> people who hear it.  This is why it was used, just like all of the occult
> symbology of the Nazi's.  Hitler was portrayed by some, and unfortunately
> still is portrayed, as a messiah-like figure which was the only way in which
> the Fatherland could be reborn and remade into the greatest nation ever.
> Rubbish of course, but it is NOT about whether such things are TRUE but
> whether they are believed, and many did and still do believe.  There is power
> there simply on that basis alone.  The homosexual angle is one that has
> occult overtones also, women "steal" your life essence, being with a man does
> not deplete ones "masculine nature".  Again pure rubbish, but believed by
> many.
> Teo1000
>

I agree that the power of belief may be the full explanation for the
power derived from these "potions", but I do not discount the
possibility that the power of belief does not in some way link into
other powers we do not understand.

Howard Davis

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[CTRL] SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS

[Lloyd Miller]

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http://home.talkcity.com/AcademyDr/robtlee/
http://home.talkcity.com/AcademyDr/robtlee/biow8.html

Historical Point of Reference

As an historical point of reference, consider the following discussion which
occurred during a Department of Defense appropriation hearing in 1969:






DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970



United States Senate Library



HEARINGS before a SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON

APPROPRIATIONS



HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES



Ninety-First Congress



First Session



Subcommittee on Department of Defense



George H. Mahon, Texas, Chairman

Robert L.F. Sikes, Florida, Glenard P. Lipscomb, California

Jamie D. Whitten, Mississippi William E. Minshall, Ohio

George W. Andrews, Alabama, John J. Rhodes, Arizona

Daniel J. Flood, Pennsylvania Glenn R. Davis, Wisconsin

John M. Slack, West Virginia, Joseph P. Addabbo, New York

Frank E. Evans, Colorado



Temporarily assigned H.B. 15090



PART 5



RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION



Department of the Army



Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency

Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering

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Printed for the use of the Committee on Appropriations



U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1969

UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY



129



TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969



SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS



There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to
mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology
is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe
that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a
synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for
which no natural immunity could have been acquired.



MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field?



DR. MACARTHUR. We are not.



MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest?



DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest.



MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what would be
required, what the advantages of such a program would be. The time and the
cost involved?



DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to. The information follows:



The dramatic progress being made in the field of molecular biology led us to
investigate the relevance of this field of science to biological warfare. A
small group of experts considered this matter and provided the following
observations:



1. All biological agents up to the present time are representatives of
naturally occurring disease, and are thus known by scientists throughout the
world. They are easily available to qualified scientists for research,
either for offensive or defensive purposes.


2. Within the next 5 to 10 years, it would probably be possible to make a
new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects
from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it
might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon when
we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease.



3. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed
in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.



4. It would be very difficult to establish such a program. Molecular biology
is a relatively new science. There are not many highly competent scientists
in the field., almost all are in university laboratories, and they are
generally adequately supported from sources other than DOD. However, it was
considered possible to initiate an adequate program through the National
Academy of sciences - National Research Council (NAS-NRC, and tentative
plans were made to initiate the program. However decreasing funds in CB,
growing criticism of the CB program, and our reluctance to involve the NAS
NRC in such a controversial endeavor have led us to postpone it for the past
2 years.



It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such
research should not be undertaken lest it lead to yet another method of
massive killing of large populations. On the other hand, without the sure
scientific knowledge that such a weapon is possible, and an understanding of
the ways it could be done. there is little that can be done to devise
defensive measures. Should an enemy develop it there is little doubt that
this is an important area of potential military technological inferiority in
which there is no adequate research program." [152]



This is the transcript of that hearing verbatim. Discussed was possibility
of creating agents refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes
upon when we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious
disease, i.e., an immunodeficiency-causing agent

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[CTRL] Yugoslavia: Eastern European Views

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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>From RussiaToday


 Updated Sat., Apr. 17, 1999 at: NY 7:51 a.m. Lon 12:51 p.m. Pra 1:51 p.m.
Mos 3:51 p.m.
Editor's Pick: An Eastern View Of Kosovo - A look at some of the media
commentary on the Balkan crisis from Russia, Central and Eastern Europe and
the Baltics.

News Headlines
RUSSIA

Duma Backs Union With Yugoslavia

MOSCOW, Apr. 17, 1999 -- (Reuters) Russia's opposition-dominated lower house
of parliament voted on Friday to allow Yugoslavia to join the loose
Russia-Belarus union.

The non-binding resolution was the latest symbolic show of solidarity
between Moscow and its traditional Slav ally, which has been bombarded by
NATO aircraft and missiles since March 24.

In a declaration passed by a vote of 293 for, 54 against and one abstention,
the State Duma expressed its support for Yugoslavia's effort to join the
union and called on the president and government to review the issue.
Yugoslavia's parliament voted on Monday to join the Russia-Belarus union.

Communist deputies said a union with Yugoslavia would help end the conflict
by forcing more caution from the West.

But Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov, a harsh critic of NATO's military
campaign, this time poured some cold water on the union as means to stop the
confrontation. "The union is a question of bilateral, multilateral
relations. It has very little to do with solving the Yugoslavia crisis," he
told reporters.

The union already commits Russia and Belarus to economic, political and
security cooperation, including joint executive and legislative structures,
while retaining their national sovereignty. However, little has been
achieved in these areas.

Russian President Boris Yeltsin said a week ago he favored bringing in
Yugoslavia, a fellow Slav and Orthodox Christian state. But on Thursday
Yeltsin's deputy chief of staff played down the possibility of linking up
with Yugoslavia.

"Of course this will not happen soon, it's not possible," Oleg Sysuyev told
Reuters. "It would be wrong to do if it would be a step drawing Russia into
the armed conflict, so I am sure that this is not a problem of one day or
one week."

Belarus leader Aleksander Lukashenko, who visited Belgrade on Wednesday,
also said Yugoslavia could not join immediately.

The short Duma declaration on Friday expressed its support for a union
including Yugoslavia, asked the government and Kremlin to look at the issue
and ordered parliamentarians in Russia and Belarus to meet to discuss the
issue.

The Duma, which has no direct say over foreign policy but can pass advisory
declarations, has backed the idea of supplying Yugoslavia with arms.

However the Russian government has said it will continue to support the
United Nations arms embargo against Yugoslavia despite Moscow's opposition
to the NATO bombing.

But Sergei Ivanenko of the Yabloko party, a liberal group that voted against
the resolution, condemned it. "It's an extremely irresponsible position," he
said. "They are on the path of isolation for Russia...it is very dangerous."

He also said the document had little legal significance.

The Duma approved another resolution on Friday, calling on European
parliaments to help stop the NATO campaign, which it said also threatened an
environmental catastrophe in Europe as NATO bombed Yugoslav oil refineries
and chemical plants.

The votes came as Yeltsin's new envoy on Yugoslavia, former premier Viktor
Chernomyrdin, met Yugoslav ambassador to Moscow Borislav Milosevic,
President Slobodan Milosevic's brother.

Chernomyrdin also met the French ambassador and was due to meet the U.S.
ambassador later in the day as part of preparations for possible visits to
European capitals next week aimed at negotiating an end to the conflict.
 (c) 1999 Reuters)




Editor's Pick: An Eastern View Of Kosovo - A look at some of the media
commentary on the Balkan crisis from Russia, Central and Eastern Europe and
the Baltics.


An Eastern View Of Kosovo - A look at some of the media commentary on the
Balkan crisis from Russia, Central and Eastern Europe and the Baltics.

The conflict in Kosovo continues to dominate selected recent commentary from
the press of nations in transition from communism:

RUSSIA

Nezavisimaya Gazeta: Kosovo could become the Cuban missile crisis of the
Balkans

Writing in Russia's Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Dmitry Gornostayev warns that
Kosovo could become the "Cuban missile crisis of the Balkans." Gornostayev
says that an announcement by President Boris Yeltsin last week that he
favored Yugoslavia's bid to join the union of Russia and Belarus constituted
a "sharp change" in Russian policy. Gornostayev says Yeltsin's comment was
greeted as "sensational news."

The Yeltsin announcement along with press reports that Russia was
considering re-targeting its nuclear missiles, Gornostayev writes, "very
much resembles the Cuban missile crisis of 1962." The writer adds: "So far
we cannot say whether the acting leaders will have enough common sense to
avoid the catastrophe 

[CTRL] FW: Konformist: The Official "IRS SUCKS!" Page & New Utopia

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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 "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots
 and tyrants. It is it's natural manure."
--- Thomas Jefferson, 1787

Bard

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The Official "IRS SUCKS!" Page
Here is a page devoted to destroying arguably the most oppressive (and most
hated) institution in the USA: The Internal Revenue Service. Reason number
one to destroy, according to many of the following sites: IT HAS NO LEGAL
AUTHORITY.
Please email us more links: this page will keep growing.

TAXPAYER'S LAMENT

Tax his cow, Tax his goat;
Tax his pants, Tax his coat;
Tax his crop, Tax his work;
Tax his ties, Tax his shirt;
Tax his chew, Tax his smoke (now ain't that the truth);
Teach him taxing is no joke.
Tax his tractor, Tax his mule;
Tell him, Taxing is the rule.
Tax his oil, Tax his gas (again ain't that the truth)
Tax his notes, Tax his cash (oh boy a pattern emerges);
Tax him good and let him know,
That after taxes, he has no dough.
If he hollers, Tax him more;
Tax him till he's good and sore.
Tax his coffin, Tax his grave,
Tax his sod in which he's laid.
Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove him to his doom."
After he's gone, we won't relax.
We'll still collect inheritance tax.

First off in enemies of the IRS: Bill Cooper, who runs the "Hour Of The
Time"
website at http://harvest-trust.org. Last year, the Feds clashed will the
Coop when he refused to file or pay income taxes, on the basis that they had
no legal authority to. So far, he remains free, which bolsters his
contention. Whether it is because the Feds know they'd lose a legal battle
or
merely want to avoid another Ruby Ridge can be debated, but either case, his
work demands to be seen. See The Konformist old coverage on the case:
Bill Cooper Fights The Man
Cooper Family Targeted by Feds
Notice to Citizens: Part 1
Notice to Citizens: Part 2
Notice to Citizens: Part 3
"Hour of the Time": Internal Revenue Service


"The Internal Revenue Service is everything the so-called tax protesters
said
it was; non-responsive, unable to withstand scrutiny, tyrannical, and
oblivious to the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution."
Joseph Banister, certified public accountant and, until this year, an
investigator for the Criminal Investigation Division of the IRS
>From WorldNetDaily:

THE POWER TO DESTROY:
IRS special agent challenges system Agency illegitimate, tax law
non-existent, he says
By Sarah Foster

THE POWER TO DESTROY:
IRS special agent is right, says CPA
'We need to take next step'
By Sarah Foster

http://www.freedomabovefortune.com/
Freedom Above Fortune
You'll notice that the name of this organization is Freedom Above Fortune,
not Freedom Without Fortune or Freedom Instead of Fortune. Rather, Freedom
Above Fortune is an organization dedicated to the concept that no amount of
real or perceived economic prosperity or fortune is worth trading for your
freedom. This is not to say that pursuing economic prosperity, in and of
itself, is bad. Rather, it is to say that those who are willing to sell
their
freedom and their children's freedom for a few pieces of silver, as Judas
did
when he betrayed Jesus Christ, are shortsighted and foolish. If you are
willing to sell your freedom for short term financial security, real or
perceived, the willingness to sell your very soul can't be far behind.
Freedom Above Fortune was founded by Joseph R. (Joe) Banister, a former IRS
Criminal Investigation Division Special Agent who learned of serious
constitutional questions relating to the federal income tax and the federal
banking and monetary systems. Mr. Banister's expertise in the fields of
accounting, finance, taxation, and law enforcement enabled him to not only
understand these issues but realize that he could play a role in bringing
the
issues into the public arena for analysis and debate.
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better
than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not
your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were
our countrymen." -Samuel Adams
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[CTRL] NoKoreana: 04-17-99

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

>From Int'l Herald Tribune

Paris, Saturday, April 17, 1999
North Korea to Lose Main Foreign Bank
Closure Will Complicate Pyongyang's Receipt of International Aid



By Thomas Crampton International Herald Tribune


North Korea will soon lose its main conduit for receiving international
funds, including millions of dollars in donor assistance used to alleviate
the country's persistent famine.
The board of the Dutch investment bank ING Barings NV voted to close within
six weeks the company's Pyongyang branch, one of just two foreign banks
operating in North Korea, according to a source involved in North Korean
finances.

ING Barings in Hong Kong confirmed Friday that a decision had been made this
week to wind down North Korean operations.

Edward Naylor, the Asia-Pacific head of corporate communications for ING
Barings, declined to comment beyond saying that the company planned to make
a full announcement Monday.

The closure will further isolate North Korea by reducing its international
financial links to a handful of small, little-known correspondent banks in
Macau and the Japanese provinces, the source involved in North Korean
finances said.

On Jan. 1, the Pyongyang branch of ING Barings stopped issuing cash for
inward remittances after branch employees became reluctant to carry bags of
hard currency across international borders to make up for the shortfall of
local deposits, the source said. The branch manager sometimes lugged a
backpack containing several million dollars from ING Barings' Tokyo office
through a Beijing airport and onto the flight to Pyongyang, the source said.

On other occasions, the source said, large quantities of cash were passed
from the Chinese side of the Yalu River to waiting representatives of the
Dutch company's North Korean partner.

Although the four-year-old venture has been highly profitable, the source
said ING Barings auditors had raised concern over the potential for money
laundering as it is impossible to verify the source of funds from North
Korean companies.

International drug enforcement officials have repeatedly raised allegations
of large-scale production of illegal narcotics in North Korea, and the
country's diplomats have frequently been caught trying to smuggle drugs and
pass off high-quality counterfeit dollar bills.

North Korea's only other licensed foreign bank, a joint venture set up with
the now defunct Hong Kong-based investment bank Peregrine Investments
Holdings Ltd., is under control of liquidators.

Pyongyang-based businessmen said international donors and businessmen would
probably prefer to hand-carry bags of cash into the country rather than send
large amounts of money via shaky financial institutions into
state-controlled banks that regard deposits as national assets and regularly
refuse to issue hard currency.

''This actually may be the final straw to drive out some aid
organizations,'' the source said.

Operational hurdles, especially regulations intended to prevent proper
monitoring of aid distribution, have prompted several aid agencies to
withdraw from North Korea over the last year, and others have threatened to
follow.

Relief agencies such as the World Food Program, Red Cross, United Nations
Development Program and Children's Aid Direct have sent roughly $1 million
per week through the Dutch company's Pyongyang branch over the last year.

Beyond funds spent on aid, North Korea's several hundred resident foreigners
must now use dollars in ash form for transactions ranging from telephone
bills and postage to meals at the handful of North Korean restaurants
intended for foreigners.

Most aid agencies, resident foreigners and the few diplomatic missions in
North Korea hold accounts at the ING Barings branch, which is run out of
Room 418 in the drab pink nine-floor Potoggang Hotel in central Pyongyang.

Since North Korea has no active foreign exchange market, exchange rates are
obtained by a foreign staff member who is permitted to watch a Japanese
financial news channel on one of the few televisions with access to foreign
programming.

The bank, with a capital of $2 million, is 70 percent owned by ING Barings
and 30 percent owned by Korea Foreign Insurance Co., a Pyongyang-controlled
business.

The Pyongyang branch frequently rejected currency notes as counterfeit after
they failed a three-machine procedure to establish authenticity.

The North Korean economy, meanwhile, continues to degrade. Despite a ban on
black market trading that is backed by the death penalty, a parallel
exchange for the North Korean won began developing in September, the source
said.

Although too small to absorb transactions of more than several hundred
dollars at one time, the black market values the dollar at double the
official rate of 2.1 won.


>From http://www.kcna.co.jp/contents/16

Re: [CTRL] Calif. blood lab patients warned in needle scare

[Howard R. Davis III]

 -Caveat Lector-

   It may be that some needles are better manufactured than others and
she was keeping the good ones for patients who had finer veins. My
mother was at one time a specialist at starting IVs. Some people have
very large veins and are easy to start IVs on. Others have finer veins
and it can be a big problem. How would you like to be stuck several
times? She probably thought she was doing them a favor. Incidentally, it
used to be that all needles were re-used. My mother had a set that she
used for giving anti-biotics to us kids for years. They got rather dull.
We were happy when she got the throw away type. However, she would
always sterilize them in boiling water. Much better than H2O2.

Howard Davis

"Hilary A. Thomas" wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> When I heard this report last night I was floored.  Why would the tech do
> this?  Her training would indicate that it can't be ignorance.  Lazy?  It's
> harder to wash a needle then to open a new package.  So, what's up with
> this?
>
> Hilary
>
> Calif. blood lab patients warned in needle scare
>
> By Greg Frost
>
> SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Thousands of patients who had blood drawn at a
> California laboratory will be warned to take AIDS and hepatitis tests after
> a
> technician at the lab admitted she sometimes reused disposable hypodermic
> needles, officials said Friday.
>
> Confirming a report in the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper, state health
> authorities and Anglo-U.S. drug maker SmithKline Beecham said they were
> mailing warnings to at least 3,600 patients in San Mateo and Santa Clara
> counties who had blood work performed at a SmithKline clinical lab in Palo
> Alto, Calif.
>
> SmithKline fired the unidentified technician, or phlebotomist, after a
> colleague saw her reuse a needle on March 22. During an investigation, the
> phlebotomist acknowledged reusing certain needles to draw blood from
> patients
> with veins that were difficult to access.
>
snip

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Re: [CTRL] War Coverage to Die For

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In a message dated 99-04-17 02:03:51 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> ... referred to [CNN's] coverage as "emotionalism now masquerading as news"

Hear, hear.  I've seen NOTHING approaching "journalism" on either the network
or cable news stations since at least the Gulf War period.  I'm repeatedly
astonished at how many hyperbolic heavily-emotion-laden value-judgment
adjectives our allegedly "unbiased" so-called "newsmen" manage to crowd into
every broadcast soundbyte.  They're using the word "evil" lavishly these
days, at least once every five minutes ...

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Re: [CTRL] Does K = (or approximate) K?

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In a message dated 99-04-17 10:30:36 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>In other words, the world's last superpower might be cocky enough to pick
>another fight.

Clinton does indeed seem to represent "the right stuff" of his generation,
already legendary for its clueless narcissism, ambition, greed, amorality,
and HYBRIS.

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[CTRL] Arabiana: 04-17-99: Turf Disputes

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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>From ArabicNews.CoM

Distribution of geographic atlas of Arab states in universities suspended
Regional, Politics, 4/17/99

Border disputes between the Arab states surfaced in an academic exercise
that publishes a map of the Arab states.

In concluding his meetings yesterday in Jordan's capital Amman, the council
of Arab universities decided to suspend the distribution of the Geographic
Atlas of Arab Nations, which was published by the union to be distributed
among different Arab universities, due to disputes that took place in the
meeting's sessions between different universities' delegations and their
objections to the geographic borders between these countries.

Also of concern was the names of some Arab states according to the point of
view of the participating delegations.

The union of Arab universities had authorized Baghdad University to set this
atlas since 10 years, at a cost of $6 million, yet Baghdad did not produce
it due to the international sanctions imposed on it, so the union printed
750 copies as an experiment after it was set and revised by specialized
professors in Arab universities to bypass the version produced by Baghdad's
University's professors.


King Hassan stresses that human rights stem from attachment to rule of law
Morocco, Politics, 4/17/99

King Hassan II expressed satisfaction over the results achieved by the
Moroccan Human Rights Advisory Council (CCDH) which managed during its
latest 13th session to close once and for all the pending human rights
cases.

"We received with great joy and satisfaction the results achieved by the
13th session of the CCDH which managed, after deep scrutiny and thorough
study, marked by a strong and spontaneous unanimity and a deep and sincere
commitment, to close once and for all the pending human rights files, in
line with the instructions we issued and the deadlines we set," said the
kind in a message he addressed to the CCDH on Friday.

The king also voiced backing to the CCDH actions and renewed Morocco's
attachment to the respect of human rights, legality and justice. The
struggle for human rights and for the supremacy of the rule of the law and
legality cannot be limited to handling the sequelae of some conjuncture
circumstances, the royal message stated adding that "this struggle
constitutes a doctrine, that must be the pillar of our internal and external
policy, and that must be based on attachment to legality and to the rule of
the law, without any interference in states' internal affairs."

Last week, King Hassan II agreed, on a proposal made by the CCDH, to grant
free pardon to all prisoners, convicted of offense to state security and to
grant compensations to the families of reported "missing" people.

The CCDH applauded the royal free-pardon and voiced pride saying that
Morocco "has the privilege of achieving with bravery, faith and resolve" the
great human rights epic, confirming thus the triumph of law and the
preeminence of right like all the deeply-rooted democracies"

The CCDH, which was set up by the King in 1990, is a national institution in
charge of protecting and promoting human rights and consolidating a human
rights culture in Morocco.

The council, which is independent from the legislative, executive and
judiciary powers, issues consultative opinions that are submitted to the
king.


Abdel Aziz Bouteflika a president-elect for Algeria
Algeria, Politics, 4/17/99

The Algerian foreign ministers Abd El-Malek Salal said yesterday that Abdel
Aziz Bouteflika, 62, won the presidential elections in Algeria after
obtaining 73,69% of the votes reaching 7.5 million voters out of 10 million.

He said during a press conference yesterday that elections took place in
"freedom" and he expressed sorrow for the behavior of some candidates whom
he said had premeditated the administration's involvement in their elections
strategy.

Some electors voted for the other 6 candidates inspite of their withdrawal
from the election process where Ahmed Taleb El-Brahim obtained 12,53% of the
votes, Abu Allah Gab Allah obtained 3,95%, Hussein Ayat Ahmed obtained
31,17%, Mawloud Hamroush obtained 3%, Mekddad Seifi obtained 2,24% and
Yousef El Khateeb obtained (1,22%).

Following declaring Bouteflika's win, he said that he "agree on assuming the
Algerian presidentship because he conditioned his consent previously on the
necessity of obtaining a great percentage in the vote."

The elected president assured his commitment to be a president for all the
Algerians fairly away from any alignment to achieve the reconciliation as
well as reunioning the Algerians.


US: Events surrounding Algerian elections disappointing, Arab League
supports election results
Algeria, Politics, 4/17/99

US State Department spokesman James Rubin said yesterday that the United
States is disappointed with the withdrawal of six of seven candidates in the
Algerian elections, won by sole remaining candidate Abdul Aziz Bouteflika,
and concerned by low voter turno

[CTRL] Minnesota Governor Defies Easy Labels, So Far "I could win..."

[Peter L. Sroufe]

For those not using a Browser:

"I could win," Ventura said, rattling off poll numbers as he jutted his
broad chin, "if I wanted it."

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Minnesota Governor Defies Easy Labels, So Far
  

By DIRK JOHNSON
ST. PAUL -- In a state Capitol reception room ornamented with marble fireplaces and 
crystal chandeliers, Gov. Jesse Ventura, wearing blue jeans and white socks and 
looking like someone who could use a shave, was talking -- roaring, actually -- about 
running for President. 

"I could win," Ventura said, rattling off poll numbers as he jutted his broad chin, 
"if I wanted it." 

In his first three months of office, Ventura, the former professional wrestler known 
for fighting in a pink boa, has managed to offend, annoy and outrage plenty of 
Minnesotans -- but win the cheers of most. 

"For as much feathers as I've ruffled in being politically incorrect," he said in an 
interview, "I get 10 to 1 letters from people saying that's why they like me." 

A recent public opinion survey showed Ventura with a 57 percent approval among voters, 
a high rating, if down from the lofty 72 percent he received just after his stunning 
triumph last November. 

In a state that prides itself on having a painfully earnest style of trying to say and 
do the right thing, Ventura has jumped at every chance to be incendiary -- and then to 
pour on gasoline. 

In the 27 appointments he has made as Governor, he has not named a single black man or 
black woman. He joked on national television -- and later offered a tepid apology -- 
that St. Paul's confusing street plan had been designed by "drunken Irishmen." 

He suggested that college athletes should not be required to attend classes. He 
called, without success, for a salary for his wife as first lady, and for bodyguards 
at his suburban horse farm. And he has crossed swords with Garrison Keillor, the 
Minnesota folklorist who is host of "A Prairie Home Companion," the National Public 
Radio program. 

Ventura is loud, profane and often seems ready to explode, thrusting a forefinger 
menacingly in the direction of anyone who poses an unpleasant question. 

But for all his bluster, the Governor has shown little inclination to push for big 
policy changes. Borrowing from approaches from both the Democratic and Republican 
Party, he has been described as "a centrist with an attitude." 

Barbara Carlson, a radio talk-show host and former Minneapolis 
mayoral candidate, has had Ventura on her program, where time after time she has 
corrected what she called his "atrocious grammar." 

"Either we are the envy of the nation or the laughingstock," said Mrs. Carlson, the 
former wife of former Gov. Arne Carlson. "I haven't decided." 

Among ordinary Minnesotans, Ventura's antics continue to amuse. But it is uncertain 
whether voters will ultimately want more in a Governor than an often delightfully 
outrageous showman. 

"Do I like Jesse?" said Gary Fursetzer, a 45-year-old Minneapolis limousine driver. 
"Sure I like him. Do I think he'll be a good Governor? Well, that's another question." 

For all the attention and, often, affection he has received, the mountainous hulk of a 
Governor has yet to show much political muscle. 

Steve Schier, a political science professor at Carleton College, said Ventura, as a 
third-party candidate, had no real base of power in the Legislature. 

"He can huff and he can puff, but he can't blow their house down," Professor Schier 
said. "Jesse is a man without a political base. This guy has no votes in the State 
Senate or House that will, forgive the pun, go to the mat for him." 

Governor Ventura has not pressed hard for any agenda. Indeed, some politicians have 
scoffed that Ventura, a boat owner, has made regulations on watercraft one of his 
chief concerns. Moreover, some legislators have complained that Ventura does not 
always make himself accessible or engage in the nitty-gritty of government. 

The departing Democratic Party chairman, Dick Senese, predicted that Ventura's 
outrageous style "will wear thin," especially if the state's robust economy falters. 
Senese said the Governor's perceived contempt for negotiation and compromise would 
ultimately hinder his ability to govern. 

"He's fond of saying he's not going to play the games politicians' play," Senese said. 
"But it's not only the game of politics, it's the game of life. You and your friends 
can't decide what restaurant to go to without discussion and compromise." 

Professor Schier said the Governor had staked his ground as "a centrist with an 
attitude." 

"His style is fire engine red," he added, "but his policies are beige." 

That moderation, Professor Schier said, makes the Governor appealing to many 
Minnesotans who are weary of the very liberal character of the state's Democratic 
Far

Re: [CTRL] MARINES TAKE OVER SCHOOL

[Das GOAT]

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Martial law with a happy face.  Mr Rogers' voice: "Little Johnny, the heavily
armed man in the Ninja outfit is your friend and mine."  "Starship Troopers"
isn't satire anymore ...

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[CTRL] Russell's Paradox

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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>From http://www.philosophers.co.uk/current/paradox2.htm

Russell's Paradox
by Francis Moorcroft

The British Library sends out instructions that every library in the country
has to make a catalogue of all its books. Each librarian makes their
catalogue and are then faced with a choice: the catalogue is, after all, a
book in their library; should the title of the catalogue be included in the
catalogue itself or not? Some librarians decide to include it, others not
to.

In the course of time the catalogues are sent to the British Library and the
chief librarian there has the job of making a catalogue of these catalogues.
But they find that they have two different sorts of catalogues to deal with:
those that mention themselves inside the catalogue and those that don't.
That is, they have catalogues that contain their own titles and catalogues
that don't. So the chief librarian decides to make two different catalogues
corresponding to these two different kinds. With the catalogue of all those
catalogues that include themselves the librarian has the choice to include
the title of the catalogue in itself or not. No problem there. But with the
catalogue of catalogues that don't include themselves the librarian is faced
with a dilemma: should they include the title of the catalogue in the
catalogue or not? if they do then it is not a catalogue that does not
contain its own title and so it shouldn't be included; if they don't put it
in then it is a catalogue that doesn't contains its own title and so should
be included. Either way, it should contain itself if it doesn't and
shouldn't contain itself if it does!

This paradox is a version of Russell's Paradox. It came about from Bertrand
Russell thinking about the notion of a set, or class, or collection of
things, and whether a set can be a member of itself or not. For example,
think about the totality of cats in the world: this is the set of cats. Is
this set a member of itself or not. Clearly not - it's a set, an abstract
object, not a cat. But now think about all of the things in the world that
are not cats - dogs, chairs, books, violin sonatas, . . . and sets. This set
is a member of itself. Now it is far more usual for a set not to be a member
of itself than for it to be a member of itself. Let's call sets that don't
belong to themselves normal. Now Russell's problem is: is the set of all
normal sets a member of itself or not? If it is then it isn't. But if it
isn't then it is...

Russell's own solution to the problem is his Theory of Types. This can be
explained as follows. Imagine that five people get together to form a
five-a-side football team. This team then joins a local league, and the
league in turn is part of a regional association. Clearly, an individual can
only be member of a team and cannot be a member of a league or an
association: it is the wrong type of thing, as only teams can be members of
leagues and leagues members of associations. Similarly Russell thought that
individuals, type C, were members of sets or classes of type 1. These sets
could only be members of sets of type 2, and sets of type 2 could only be
members of the higher type 3, and so on. Specifically, a set could not
belong to another set of the same type, as it has to belong to a set of the
next highest type, and so a set can never be a member of itself.

While the Theory of Types does work as a solution to the Paradox many
logicians feel that it has an ad hoc air about it, and isn't as intuitively
obvious as is required for the foundations of mathematics: after all,
Russell's solution may seem plausible for football teams but mathematics
does consider sets that are formed from individuals, sets of individuals,
sets of sets of individuals and so on, and counting out such sets seems to
be a high price to pay for avoiding the Paradox.

Readers may wonder whether Russell's Paradox is a problem only in the
foundations of mathematics or if it actually occurs in real life. I recently
saw a policy concerning disability which contained a number of clauses
naming specific disabilities which were included under the policy. The last
clause, however, contained the statement 'Other disabilities not on this is
list'. Now consider a specific disability not named in the list: if it was
not on this list then this clause includes it in the list so it is on the
list; if it is on the list then the clause says it is not on the list.
Without care, paradoxes can occur where we least expect them.



Francis Moorcroft, Department of Philosophy, University of Hull.

Read about another paradox in Issue 3 of The Philosophers' Magazine.








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[CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] Does PBS stand for "Promoting Biased Stories"

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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A<>E<>R

The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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the absolute rejection of authority. -Thomas Huxley
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- Original Message -
From: FAIR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 12:42 PM
Subject: [FAIR-L] Does PBS stand for "Promoting Biased Stories"


:
:  FAIR-L
: Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting
:Media analysis, critiques and news reports
:
:
:
:
: ACTION ALERT:
: WHERE  GENDER ISSUES ARE CONCERNED, DOES PBS STAND FOR "PROMOTING BIASED
: STORIES"?
:
: April 16, 1999
:
: It might as well.  Throughout April, the PBS program "National Desk" is
: presenting a three-part series on "the gender wars," in which they aim
: to address "whether the advancement of women in virtually all areas of
: society can be achieved without a retreat, in some way, on the part of
: men."
:
: This manipulative framing of gender politics is clear throughout the
: first installment of the series, "The War on Boys," which opens with the
: following quote: "If we don't start changing how we treat our boys, we
: are going to be heading toward Gender Armageddon." Hosted by omnipresent
: right-wing pundit Fred Barnes and underwritten by the right-wing John M.
: Olin, Lynde and Harry Bradley, and Sarah Scaife Foundations, the program
: showcases undocumented conservative commentary by right-wing ideologues
: and pundits.
:
: Worse, many of these critics are on the payroll of the same foundations
: bankrolling this slanted series - for example, "The War on Boys" relies
: heavily on the opinions of conservative author Christina Hoff Sommers,
: who was paid six figures by the Olin and Bradley Foundations to publish
: the antifeminist tract, Who Stole Feminism?: How Women Have Betrayed
: Women.
:
: The second part of the series, on "Politics and Warriors: Women in the
: Military," due to air on April 16th, will be hosted by arch-conservative
: pundit Laura Ingraham, who already has her own program on cable channel
: MSNBC.
:
: And the title of the third segment, which will air on April 23rd,
: illustrates the bias inherent in the series: it's called "Title IX and
: Women in Sports: What's Wrong With This Picture?"  Hosted by another
: conservative - talk show host and columnist Larry Elder - this episode
: attacks the federal law designed to ensure equal access to education and
: extracurricular activities.  Among the dubious assertions of the series
: (as well as in the National Desk's publicity materials) is the idea that
: "despite all good intentions" by larger society to solve sexist
: injustice, "some things have gone terribly wrong" - and feminism is now
: leading our culture down a "dangerous path" to female dominance and male
: subordination.
:
: National Desk's "gender wars" series is based upon a seriously deficient
: definition of human rights: one in which there aren't enough human
: rights to go around, and if women want their fair share, men naturally
: have to buckle under.  The American Association of University Women
: (AAUW), much maligned in the series, dispute this zero-sum game
: understanding of gender issues.  According to AAUW Association Director
: Amy Swauger, "We don't think pitting boys against girls to determine who
: is the biggest loser is the way to help children get a good education.
: This is not a war anyone wants to win."
:
: No one, that is, except the conservatives funding a massive campaign to
: roll back gender equity laws and retract the gains that women and girls
: have achieved in the last thirty years.  Want to know why a group of
: right-wing foundations are allowed to not only buy airtime for this
: series but also supply "experts" already on their payroll?  How about
: why the so-called "alternative" public broadcasting network refused to
: find a single host who does not already have a regular media platform?
: Interested in finding out if or when PBS plans to offer a series about
: gender issues hosted by feminists?
:
: ***
: ACTION: One person who should have those answers is Ervin Duggan,
: president and CEO of PBS.  You can call him at 703-739-5015, and fax
: letters to 703-739-0775.  Let Duggan know that it is not feminism, but
: PBS programming, that has "gone terribly wrong."
:
: You can find email contacts, phone numbers, and mailing addresses for
: your local PBS s

[CTRL] "I could win," Ventura said, "if I wanted it."

[Peter L. Sroufe]

 -Caveat Lector-

By DIRK JOHNSON
ST. PAUL -- In a state Capitol reception room ornamented with marble
fireplaces and crystal chandeliers, Gov. Jesse Ventura, wearing blue jeans
and white socks and looking like someone who could use a shave, was
talking -- roaring, actually -- about running for President.

Don't miss the details, at:

http://www.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/041799gov-minn-ventura.html

--

"From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's
revolutionary force."
Edward Britton
Bard

Visit me at:
The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government
http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm

Federal Government defined:
a benefit/subsidy protection racket!

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Re: [CTRL] The Interview

[Jim Yester]

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In a message dated 4/17/99 6:13:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>
>  a weapon is what you make it. i do think it's very irresponsible to teach
>  children to kill though.
>
>  violent society we live in.
>
I wondered why the Colonel didn't respond that it was irrresponsible NOT to
teach youngsters how to handle a firearm - "violent society we live in."
Learning to use a weapon is not learning to kill; it is learning to defend
oneself. There are statistics indicating that firearms are used more often in
the prevention of violent crimes than in the commission of them.

Jim

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Re: [CTRL] Russia Mobilizes, America Sleeps

[Das GOAT]

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Just a reminder: The LAST time there was a "Communist threat" involving
Russia (USSR) and China, the PRIMARY benefit of that "virtual" state of war
--an advantage seized upon by OUR one-party (i.e. CFR+Trilats+ Bilderbergers)
ruling class as well as by THEIRS-- was the limitless amount of governmental
control --"virtual" martial law-- over the domestic citizenry, which such a
condition justified, hence made possible -- a "blank check" for
totalitarianism AT HOME, to "defend" against the same ABROAD.
During the first Cold War, unhypnotized minds as early as 1948 (e.g., George
Orwell in "1984"), long before the prosaic "Report from Iron Mountain,"
recognized that there was no more ideal system for COOPERATION between the
superpowers publicly appearing to be "at war."  Optimum conditions for the
GLOBAL military-industrial-multinational corporate state, through bargaining
divided into Western and Eastern gang-turfs, the two secretly ALLIED
economically and politically to maintain this single, only PUBLICALLY dual,
system for half a century in a "steady-state" form -- attesting to its
STABILITY as a system of rule, offering minimum bloodshed abroad, maximum
social control at home.

Behind the scenes of the present publically broadcast "suspense story" of
Russia and China re-aligning in a NEW Cold War against the more tightly
integrated "Free World"
of financial hegemony, there lies nearly two decades of economic negotiations
with the "enemy" by the same "Free World" -- ample time to secretly
accomplish by now THEIR integration as well into the "new and improved,"
mostly re-costumed LARGER global system -- the Same Old System that worked so
well for both sides during the last half century -- revived at exactly that
time when the productive bourgeoisie of all its sub-unit "nations" cannot
remember how things were at the beginning, and are therefore less likely to
recognize how the larger system REALLY functions, and WHY it exists ...  .

To make slaves more obedient as well as more productive, you need to instill
FEAR --
fear not of their OWN masters (which might lead to mass rebellion) but fear
of the caricature-like archetypal Masters of some OTHER race of people,
ELSEWHERE -- "they" who "like robots" (!) blindly do the bidding of "their"
evil system of enslavement ...

Sheeple go "THROUGH the Looking-Glass," like Alice, into a collective fantasy
world of projection, displacement, and denial.  Those who are SANE realize
it's only a MIRROR.

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[CTRL] Council on Foreign Relations and Weapons of War

[Lloyd Miller]

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-Original Message-
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Subject: The CFR and Weapons of War


The Council on Foreign Relations and Weapons of War

On Tuesday April 13, 1999 Council on Foreign Relations member President BJ
Clinton announced his intention to nominate Council on Foreign Relations
member Robert J. Einhorn to be Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation at
the Department of State.

If the purpose of an Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation is to
increase weapons proliferation  then Einhorn is a good choice. America's
Council on Foreign Relations, Britain's Royal Institute of International
Affairs, and their branch organizations in other nations including the
Bilderberg Group, have done more to cause the proliferation of weapons of
war then any other organization in history.

Ever hear of the Psychological Strategy Board? I learned of it when
researching Council on Foreign Relations member Henry Kissinger. The
architect of the Psychological Strategy Board was a Council on Foreign
Relations member Gordon Gray.Gray's consultant was Henry Kissinger, paid
political consultant to the Rockefeller family. Gray was heir to the R. J.
Reynolds tobacco fortune, a lawyer, a politician, a veteran of World War
Two, a publishing executive, a broadcasting executive, an advertising
executive, President of the University of North Carolina, and an intimate
part of the intelligence community during the terms of Truman, Eisenhower,
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and Ford.

"Gray board" became a common phrase in Washington. The Psychological
Strategy Board, established by Harry S. Truman on 20 June 1951, was the
first "Gray Board. " Another "Gray Board" was the  Psychological Warfare
Board. Their purpose was to gear psychological dimensions into foreign
policy considerations. The Psychological Strategy and Warfare boards
coordinated carefully planned psycho-political operations to control public
opinion at home and abroad. The aim was to obtain the cooperation of
Congress and the public to achieve Council on Foreign Relations foreign
policy goals. Council on Foreign Relations policy goals were designed to
achieve the largest military industrial complex in history.

Often the foreign policy goals were not in the best interest of the
American people. In 1954, a "Gray Board" recommended nuclear scientist Dr.
J. Robert Oppenheimer be denied reinstatement as a government consultant on
atomic energy. Oppenheimer, the "father of the atom bomb", was an opponent
of the routine operation of nuclear generating plants and dared to point
out that such plants produce a much more deadly pollution than either heat
or air pollution.

The Council on Foreign Relations wanted a world in which "conventional"
technology was nuclear technology. By spreading "peaceful" uses of atomic
energy across the globe, most nations would possess the wherewithal to
manufacture nuclear weapons. Foreign Policy would be framed within a
tension filled environment of Mutually Assured Destruction resulting in a
state of perpetual warfare. Maintaining a state of perpetual warfare would
allow Council on Foreign Relations medicine, munitions, media, energy,
banking and food industries to maximize their profits.

The board held, by a vote of 2 to 1, with Mr. Gray in the majority, that
reinstatement of Oppenheimer's clearance would not be in the interest of
national security. Revoking Oppenheimer's clearance damaged his credibility
as a nuclear expert and effectively robbed Americans of an alternative view
of the dangers of nuclear proliferation and nuclear power. Revoking
Oppenheimer's clearance sent a warning to other anti-nuclear scientists
that the same thing could happen to them. Silencing men like Robert
Oppenheimer gave the Russians time to develop a nuclear capability creating
the tension filled environment the Council on Foreign Relations hoped to
achieve.

J. Robert Oppenheimer had directed the Institute for Advanced Study for 7
years when the "Gray Board" stripped him of his security clearance. The
"Gray Board" wanted Oppenheimer fired from the Institute. The Institute
trustees and faculty refused to do this. Oppenheimer would continue on as
director for the next 12 years. Oppenheimer was a big drinker. After his
public humiliation the drinking got worse and much of Oppenheimer's time
from then on was spent in an alcoholic daze.

The Institute for Advanced Study is a fish-bowl where virtually all the
great figures of twentieth-century physics and mathematics are housed,
observed, and influenced by Council on Foreign Relations members.The
Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton is a small part of a power
structure established between America's Council on Foreign Relations and
Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs.

In 1928 Council on Foreign Relations member Abraham Flexner organized The
Institute for Advanced Study using money put up b

[CTRL] Fwd: Serbia

[Teo One Thousand]

[please distribute and share for list discussion]

Joel Skousen, who was interviewed on the Art Bell show not long ago,
has concluded that the bungled diplomacy in the Balkans goes hand in
hand with the bungled defense policy of the U.S. for several years.
See link: http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/3/24/190515

In his opinion, these actions are part of an overall design which does
not bode well for the U.S.

According to Skousen:   "I have made the claim in all earnestness
because I feel it is the only rational explanation of continued
disarmament, covering up for Russian cheating, dangerous technology
transfers to both Russia and China, etc.  Naturally, none of this can
be proven because we are dealing with highly secret conspiracy of
power.  But the facts when put all together over many years, combined
with numerous articles and statements admitting to a future globalist
agenda and destroying national sovereignty, point to the fact that
their objectives cannot be brought to pass without taking out the US
military--that will force the world to join in a New World Order army
to defeat Russia.  Just as the US is carrying 90% of the misguide
battle into the Balkans, the world will do nothing to defend itself as
long as the US is policeman of the world.

"That will all change, I predict, after the next war.  Sorry, there is
no  proof--just a long list of growing evidence."

Re: [CTRL] The Interview

[Andrew Kieran]

 -Caveat Lector-

a weapon is what you make it. i do think it's very irresponsible to teach
children to kill though.

violent society we live in.


At 13:26 17/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>This is an extract of an National Public Radio (NPR) interview
>between a female broadcaster and US Army Lieutenant General
>Reinwald about sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop on his military
>installation.
>
>Interviewer: "So, LTG Reinwald, what are you going to do with these
>young boys on their adventure holiday?"
>
>LTG Reinwald: "We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing,
>archery, and shooting."
>
>Interviewer: "Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?"
>
>LTG Reinwald: "I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on
>the range."
>
>Interviewer: "Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous
>activity to be teaching children?"
>
>LTG Reinwald: "I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper
>range discipline before they even touch a firearm."
>
>Interviewer: "But you're equipping them to become violent killers."
>
>LTG Reinwald: "Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're
>not one, are you?"
>
>End of the interview
>
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Re: [CTRL] Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

[Kevin]

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 This was confirmed by Dr. Coleman in the 92 version of THE COMMITTEE OF 300.  A
rather curious line tucked in the end of the book, "and why don't they pursue SDI
to protect us from Russian cosmospheres".



Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> http://www.pufori.org/starwars1.htm
>--
>
> Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System
>
>By Robert E. McElwaine
>
>--
>
>   Word from Jeroen Wierda:
>
>This article is about a possible
>Russian "starwars like" defense system.
>ANY more information regarding this
>subject is more then welcome!  Send to
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
>The copyright remains with Robert E. McElwaine
>--
>
>  [This piece sent by someone on the "In-Search-Of" discussion list]
>
>  RUSSIA'S OPERATIONAL STARWARS DEFENSE SYSTEM
>  -
>
>  In February 1992, Russian President Boris Yeltsin proposed to the
>  United States and the United Nations a global defense shield (with
>  "Star Wars"-type weapons) BASED ON RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGY.
>
>  Some people might wonder what the "backward" Russians could
>  possibly have that would be of value for the S.D.I. research and
>  development program.
>
>  The little-known TRUTH is that the Russians started deploying an
>  OPERATIONAL "Star Wars" defense system in September 1977, and it
>  has greatly grown and improved since that time.  It is a
>  SPACE TRIAD built around CHARGED-PARTICLE BEAM and NEUTRON
>  PARTICLE BEAM WEAPONS.
>
>  In this article I will describe the Russian system as it developed
>  from 1977 to 1983, and give several examples of how it was used
>  during that period.  But first I will try to convince readers of
>  the credibility of my main source of information about it.
>
>  My main source is articles published in a weekly legislative
>  newspaper, WISCONSIN REPORT (WR), of Brookfield, Wisconsin, (P.O.
>  Box 45, zip 53005), written by the late Dr. Peter David Beter, a
>  well-respected Washington, DC attorney, Doctor of Jurisprudence,
>  and expert and consultant in international law, finance, and
>  intelligence, who received much of his information from associates
>  in the CIA and other intelligence groups of other countries who
>  disapproved of many of the things happening or being planned behind
>  the scenes.  They believed that at least limited public exposure
>  might delay and ultimately prevent the worst of those things, such
>  as NUCLEAR WAR and NATIONAL DICTATORSHIP, from taking place.
>
>  Dr. Beter started appearing on local radio and TV talk shows, but
>  soon found himself being BANNED from them, as a result of
>  government THREATS to cancel broadcast licenses.  So he started
>  producing monthly one-hour cassette tapes and sending them to a
>  growing list of subscribers.  From June 21, 1975 until November 3,
>  1982 he recorded eighty (80) "Dr. Beter Audio Letters", plus eight
>  "Audio Books", and three special topic tapes.  On September 1, 1977
>  Wisconsin Report started publishing transcripts of those Audio
>  Letters.
>
>  Based on information from his sources, Dr. Beter PREDICTED the
>  bombing of the Marines in Beirut A FULL YEAR BEFORE IT HAPPENED,
>  WARNING that the U.S. Pentagon and the Israeli Mossad were
>  CONSPIRING TO DELIBERATELY ARRANGE IT in order to try to get
>  Americans angry at the Arabs and generate public support for
>  PLANNED military action against them.  He reported the impending
>  assassination of Anwar Saddat of Egypt SIX DAYS BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
>  And Dr. Beter predicted what he called the "retirement" of Leonid
>  Brezhnev one week before Brezhnev officially "died", [note that the
>  word "retirement" was used for the TERMINATION OF REPLICANTS in the
>  1982 movie "Blade Runner"], and his quick replacement with Andropov
>  which occurred only three days after the "death" of Brezhnev, to
>  the surprise of all government and media analysts.  Subscription
>  application and renewal forms for Dr. Beter's tapes would usually
>  say, "Subscribe to the Dr. Beter Audio Letter and watch the news
>  start making sense."
>
>  RUSSIA'S SPACE TRIAD OF STAR WARS WEAPONS
>
>  In September 1977 the Russians started launching MANNED killer
>  satellites, called "COSMOS INTERCEPTORS", armed with
>  CHARGED-PARTICLE BEAM weapons, into earth orbit, (12-15-77 WR; and
>  Dr. Beter Audio Letter (AL) #27, Topic 1).  By April 1978 there
>  were about THREE DOZEN of them, and they had FINISHED DESTROYING
>  all American spy and early warning satellites, (5-18-78 WR, and AL
>  #33, Topic 2).
>
>  On September 27, 1977, in what Dr. Beter called "THE BATTLE OF THE
>  HARVEST MOON", a Cosmos Interceptor in Earth orbit used a
> 

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

[Teo One Thousand]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 4/16/99 12:21:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< As for the occult. I too have read those books. I did an extensive study
 of the Holocaust and in arguing with some of the Holocaust deniers I
 finally came to the realization that they were not merely arguing over
 facts and interpretation, but rather that they were coming from a deep
 spiritual attachment to Hitler. This was evidenced to me by one who
 finally admitted that the Holocaust may have happened, but that Hitler
 did not know about it. This, of course, is ridiculous. But it did seem
 to indicate a strong belief in Hitler going far beyond anything
 explainable from a rational point. After reading the connections between
 Hitler and the occult, I began to think that this whole thing was more
 explainable on a spiritual level. I had never believed much in demon
 possession, but it began to be more understandable to me after these studies.
  >>

It is a certainty that the music you speak of does have some effect upon the
people who hear it.  This is why it was used, just like all of the occult
symbology of the Nazi's.  Hitler was portrayed by some, and unfortunately
still is portrayed, as a messiah-like figure which was the only way in which
the Fatherland could be reborn and remade into the greatest nation ever.
Rubbish of course, but it is NOT about whether such things are TRUE but
whether they are believed, and many did and still do believe.  There is power
there simply on that basis alone.  The homosexual angle is one that has
occult overtones also, women "steal" your life essence, being with a man does
not deplete ones "masculine nature".  Again pure rubbish, but believed by
many.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/17/98

[Amelia Kay Edgeman]

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Remember the Gulf War on tv?  Remember all those films of the bombs on
impact?  Why doesn't NATO?CLINTON just show us the films from the
cockpit of the planes that accidentally hit the convoy.  Then we could
see for ourselves how it was all an accident.
Amelia

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Re: [CTRL] Turkey's Kurdish Time Bomb

[Das GOAT]

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In a message dated 99-04-16 07:03:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

> the Turkish government is actually a democratically-elected
>centre-right coalition

Apologies for any inaccuracy.  I must not be up to date.  This time last year
there were a lot of news items describing the Turkish military's program for
exterminating Kurdish "terrorists," supervised by the same bloodthirsty
rightists (overlapping with the Grey Wolves, themselves "terorists") that the
CIA had funded and the NATO/P2 clique was associated with in the '80s.  I do
remember reading awhile back that elections were due in Turkey, but I haven't
checked to see if any such "political theatre" (more international PR for the
new "kinder, gentler" NATO ) even mattered to the local Powers That Be.

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[CTRL] Human Experiments

[Rich Zaengle]

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Thought some of you might find this interesting.

Type address: angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf/anid.html

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Re: [CTRL] TWA 800 WRONG TARGET

[Rich Zaengle]

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The other day I was really intrigued by the one of the
list's posting on a theory the flight was "lasered"
mistakenly for the flight to Tel Aviv.  My only two
questions are these:
1.  Why lock up Saunders for missile residue?
2.  No one has yet to tell me what the hell happened
to the air traffic controller who was on duty at the
time of the crash who reported seeing a blip circle
Flight 800, turn into Flight 800, and then both blips
disappear?



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[CTRL] OEN 4/17/98

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe
-
Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia

Clinton Appeals to Serbian-Americans for Help

Promises to send them Jesse Jackson

by Bob Djurdjevic

BELGRADE, Apr. 16 - While your editor was traveling to Serbia, an
extraordinary turn of events was taking place in Washington, DC. At the
initiative of the NSC (National Security Council), a group of
Serbian-Americans, mostly Democratic party supporters, was invited to
meet with some Clinton administration officials at the White House. The
meeting was convened at 1:00PM EDT on Apr. 14.
Taken at its face value, the reason for the meeting was that NSC
officials wanted to solicit the Serbian-Americans' help with respect to
feeding and taking care of Albanian refugees, displaced by NATO's war on
Serbia. But when the Serb participants demanded some reciprocity, given
the 600,000+ Serbian refugees which the Clinton administration's
policies had helped drive from their ancestral homes in Croatia and
Bosnia, the NSC hosts and their guests started to lock horns.

It is at this point that an "unexpected" guest "dropped in" on the
meeting - the U.S. president, Bill Clinton. The surprise, of course, was
all on the Serbian side of the table. Clinton's entry was evidently
highly PREMEDITATED by the losing side in NATO's war against Serbia.

Right off the bat, in his usual, inimitable ,"I feel your pain"-style,
this murderer of innocent civilians, both Serb and Albanians, not to
mention the commander-in-chief of American soldiers whom he had sent to
their needless deaths, proceeded to try to charm the members of the Serb
delegation. Never mind that this was the same American president who
used extreme profanities regarding the Serbs, according to his erstwhile
trusted aide, George Stephanopoulos. On Wednesday, Apr. 14, Clinton was
all sugar and spice and everything nice when it came to Serbs.

For example, Clinton lamented the expulsions, i.e., "ethnic cleansing,"
of all those hundreds of thousands of Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia,
claiming he had not heard about that before (implying that Sam Berger,
the NSC head, and Madeleine Albright, the secretary of state) were the
"bad guys" who had kept the president in the dark. And ignoring the fact
that he was the one who appointed these two, along with scores of other
incompetent U.S. foreign policy officials. And forgetting the key motto
of a Democratic President, Harry Truman was: "The buck stops here."

Clinton also lamented that the Rambouillet agreement, which his
secretary of state tried to shove down the Serbs' throats, was flawed.
In particular, Clinton said that the part about the referendum should
not have been included (meaning that the Kosovo Albanian could secede
from Serbia eventually because of their current demographic plurality in
the province).

Clinton also pledged that America would help rebuild Serbia once the war
ended. (Any of TiM's long-time readers recall the "perpetual war for
perpetual commerce"-motto of the New World Order? That you first knock
them down; then you rebuilt them? If not, search our Web site for
appropriate keywords, as there are a number of articles which elaborate
on this).

Clinton also said that he would like to see Serbia a part of the
European Union, after a transitional phase in which all former
Yugoslavia's entities were treated as a "mini-EU."

Finally, he said that the peacekeeping troops which may be needed in
Kosovo after the current war ends do not need to be NATO, but rather an
international peacekeeping troops.

As a result of this new-found Washington "flexibility" toward the Serbs,
the Clinton administration proposed to send to Belgrade Jesse Jackson,
on condition he would be allowed to see the three captured American
soldiers.

But when the Serb delegation suggested that he must first stop the
bombing, Clinton replied that he could not do that, as the very
existence of NATO was at stake.

[TiM Ed.: In other words, the American president had painted himself
into a corner, and was hoping that the Serbian-Americans, whose
relatives and friends he was killing, would bail him out. Maybe that's
the way the likes of Lewinsky, Albright or Berger would react to threats
and bombs. But Clinton's got another thing coming if he thinks he can
get the Serbs to kow-tow by promising reparations, or membership in the
new "socialist states of Europe" (the EU) New World Order "red light"
district. Especially coming on the heels of NWO's betrayal of its
favorite Balkan terrorists - the KLA, a group invented and financed by
the West (see Day 10, Update 2, Items 2 and 3, Apr. 2).]

"Well, it sure sounds as if the new Adolf has shit his pants," we summed
our reaction from Belgrade to our Washington source, a participant in
this Clinton/NSC meeting (with apologies to our lady-readers; but for
the sake of authenticity, we bring you the quote exactly as spoken). We
also reminded our source o

[CTRL] Calif. blood lab patients warned in needle scare

[Hilary A. Thomas]

 -Caveat Lector-

When I heard this report last night I was floored.  Why would the tech do
this?  Her training would indicate that it can't be ignorance.  Lazy?  It's
harder to wash a needle then to open a new package.  So, what's up with
this?

Hilary


Calif. blood lab patients warned in needle scare

By Greg Frost

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Thousands of patients who had blood drawn at a
California laboratory will be warned to take AIDS and hepatitis tests after
a
technician at the lab admitted she sometimes reused disposable hypodermic
needles, officials said Friday.

Confirming a report in the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper, state health
authorities and Anglo-U.S. drug maker SmithKline Beecham said they were
mailing warnings to at least 3,600 patients in San Mateo and Santa Clara
counties who had blood work performed at a SmithKline clinical lab in Palo
Alto, Calif.

SmithKline fired the unidentified technician, or phlebotomist, after a
colleague saw her reuse a needle on March 22. During an investigation, the
phlebotomist acknowledged reusing certain needles to draw blood from
patients
with veins that were difficult to access.

The phlebotomist, who worked at the lab since June 1, 1997, said she would
wash some used needles with water and hydrogen peroxide -- a mixture that
health officials said could kill some, but not all, blood-borne pathogens.

The state department of health, which was investigating the incident along
with federal and local health authorities, said the risk to patients of
possible infection was ``low'' but not nonexistent.

``Although the risk of infection to anyone who had blood drawn by this
phlebotomist is low, reusing needles in any way is unsafe and a breach of
standard medical practices,'' California Health Officer James Stratton said

in a statement.

State health officials would not discuss the phlebotomist's background but
did say she had worked at between five and 10 other sites before she began
work at the Palo Alto lab. It was not known when the woman began reusing
needles, how often she reused them or if she reused them at any of the
other
facilities, the officials said.

``In some cases she worked under close supervision, which makes it unlikely

she was reusing needles,'' said Lea Brooks, a spokeswoman for the state
health department. ``In other cases she wasn't in the direct line of vision

of a supervisor.''

SmithKline said the technician's safety lapse was ''shocking,'' and added
the
company would pay the costs of running blood tests on patients who had work

done at the lab.

``As a company whose overriding objective is to improve the health of
people
everywhere, we are shocked by this apparent disregard for company
procedures,'' John Okkerse, president of Philadelphia-based SmithKline
Beecham Clinical Laboratories, said in a statement.

``Our first concern is for the health of the patients,'' he said. ``We are
working to determine the risk, if any, the patients face and we will do
whatever is medically appropriate to support them.''

Okkerse said SmithKline had intended to notify patients and their
physicians
in advance of ``a public notification,'' but noted that the story had been
broken by the media before the company could do so.

SmithKline said letters would be sent to all individuals and their
physicians
who had blood drawn at the site, and that free follow-up blood tests would
be
offered to them. The company also said it was establishing a telephone call

center to answer patient inquiries.

SmithKline spokesman Jeremy Heymsfeld described the technician as a ``fully

certified phlebotomist'' and said there was no acceptable explanation for
what she did. ``It was a totally inappropriate action against medical
procedure,'' he said.

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Re: [CTRL] World Bank to Bribe Russia

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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How many times do with have to give money to Russia to see it disappear
into someone's personal account before we realize that this money WILL NOT
be used to aid Russia and her people?  This is an out-and-out bribe to
officials NOT to shoot at NATO units over the Korsovo mess.  America has
been asleep way too long not to see these TRANSPARENT maneuvers.  Ugh!
Rant! Spew!

Hilary


--
> From: Das GOAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CTRL] World Bank to Bribe Russia
> Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 3:20 AM
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
>  Gee, only weeks ago --before Russia's outrage at Kosovo-- the IMF
was
> balking at offering Russia even HALF that amount ...
>
>
> Russia Promised $2.3B in Loans
>
> By ANNA DOLGOV
> .c The Associated Press

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[CTRL] The Interview

[Bill Richer]

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This is an extract of an National Public Radio (NPR) interview
between a female broadcaster and US Army Lieutenant General
Reinwald about sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop on his military
installation.

Interviewer: "So, LTG Reinwald, what are you going to do with these
young boys on their adventure holiday?"

LTG Reinwald: "We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing,
archery, and shooting."

Interviewer: "Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?"

LTG Reinwald: "I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on
the range."

Interviewer: "Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous
activity to be teaching children?"

LTG Reinwald: "I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper
range discipline before they even touch a firearm."

Interviewer: "But you're equipping them to become violent killers."

LTG Reinwald: "Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're
not one, are you?"

End of the interview

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[CTRL] MARINES TAKE OVER SCHOOL

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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From: "Hilary A. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Evidently our military believes our middle schools harbor dangerous
terrorists.

Hilary


http://www.infowars.com/pensacola.html
-
MARINES TAKE OVER SCHOOL
By Jenny LaCoste

News Journal staff writer

The sleepy atmosphere that precedes first period was broken at Hobbs
Middle School on Thursday morning by the sound of Marines, Navy and
Coast Guard pilots marching through the school's halls.

While sixth-graders in Lynnette Whitfield's geography class were
watching CNN reports on NATO airstrikes against Yugoslavia, they heard a
voice bark over the intercom: "Military personnel, take your
classrooms."

The mock "takeover" of Hobbs Middle School by pilots and flight students
from Whiting Field was a way to illustrate what martial law is all
about, said Lt. Troy Beshears, a Coast Guard pilot assigned to Whiting
Field Naval Air Station.

But once the sailors and Marines were in the classrooms, their mission
was to teach for a day subjects such as math, science, history, and
geography and give teachers a break.

"We're going for shock value initially," said Navy Lt. Dan Deutermann,
29.  "but in the classrooms we're showing the students practical
applications of what they're learning."

Some students brought up questions about the Kosovo situation.

Seventh-grader Cory Keelan selected Yugoslavia when a Navy ensign
teaching geography asked students to name their favorite European
country.

"I just like the name of it.  It sounds cool," said Cory, 13.  "I've
been hearing it a lot lately."

Whitfield said her class knows more about Yugoslavia than just the
name.  Her students have been learning geography of the area, the
history of the ethnic groups involved in the fighting that has killed
more than 2,000 people in the Yugoslav province of Kosovo and keeping
tabs on the current NATO air assault on Yugoslavia.

"Some of my students still don't really have a grasp on the situation,
but others do because they talk about it with their parents," she said.

One of Whitfield's students, Julie McCool, said the presence of the
military personel in her school made the news she had been watching from
Yugoslavia seem a little more real.

"I just don't want it to get much worse," said Julie, 12.

Navy Ensign Kelly Robbins taught a class on geography, charting a
Pacific cruise he took on an aircraft carrier and talking about his
ports of call.

While an enlisted sailor working in intelligence, Robbins said he had to
brief admirals, senators and Secratary of State Madeleine Albright, but
middle schoolers made him nervous.

"At least with them, I knew what questions to anticipate," said Robbins,
27.  "With kids, you're not sure what they might ask."

Besides giving students insight into places like Taiwan, Thailand and
Singapore, Robbins gave the kids an idea of what it's like to be in the
military.

He spent his first Christmas as a sailor in Hong Kong.

"You don't get to come home for Christmas?'  Cory Keelan asked Robbins.

"No' not when you're on a ship," Robbins said.

"Did you get Christmas dinner?" Corey, 13, pressed.

Besides geography, flight students taught physiology, explaining how
night goggles work with the human eye, aerodynamics and geometry.

"Kids don't realize that there are freeways in the sky and we have to
use geometry to figure out our couse when we fly," said Beshears.
"We're just showing them that the skills they're learning now are
applicable in life."

The visit is part of the Whiting Field Adopt-A-School program
coordinated by Beshears.  Every instructor and flight student
paricipating volunteered to take part.

Last year, students from Hobbs and another school communicated via
e-mail with a Coast Guard lieutenant on a cruise bound for the South
Pole and had a video teleconference with their frind once she got there.

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[CTRL] CLINTON INSIDERS CONFIRM HIS WICKED NATURE

[Hilary A. Thomas]

 -Caveat Lector-

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Goodheart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 6:00 PM
Subject: CLINTON INSIDERS CONFIRM HIS WICKED NATURE


>CLINTONS WICKED NATURE
>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: CLINTON INSIDERS CONFIRM HIS WICKED NATURE
>Cc:
>
>PLEASE copy, edit, improve and forward this post to as many people as you
can.
>The only hope of stopping the tyranny, death and hell planned by deadly
and
>angry/mad leaders on the world stage is to alert the grass-roots people of
>Light worldwide who will invoke the intercession of Almighty God to bind
the
>wolves/tares among us and mitigate the woes that are coming to Earth... as
the
>Great 25,800 year Cycle of mankinds returning karma (KaliYuga) brings the
>judgment of Light and Darkness to an archetypal "cross-roads" of
cross-purposes
>that is virtually the crucifixion on the cross of Christic/Aquarian
>Light-Life-Love as it ascends/descends (vertical bar) into the
dark-dense-dregs
>of disintegration spirals... as the old paradigm/momentums of
>materialist/worldly ownership and control-at-any-price (horizontal bar)
choses
>to destroy it all if it can not control it all.  It is the eternal law of
cause
>and effect, action and reaction, stimulus and response (karma) whereby the
>people of earth are about to reap what we've sown. Yet man has free will
so
>anything is possible, including a revolution in higher consciousness at
the
>heart of a global "come-into-unity" (community) movement.
>
>ASTROLOGY AS KARMA:
>Realize that the three wise men were no dummies; they were astrologers who
had
>the spiritual discernment to find the Christ where others saw only a star,
barn
>and baby.  To understand the astrology of the hour (1999) that defines the
most
>significant grand-cross/grand square of planets/energies in modern history
>whereby "cross-fixion" (judgment) is nigh".. go to  .
To
>understand the "2nd coming" of Christ as the awakening of Christic
compassion
>and LOVE-in-action in the hearts, head and hands of the masses worldwide
via a
>global grass-roots TeLeCom revolution that raises consciousness and builds
>community... go to .  And to support these
information
>services while preparing for the "Grand Cross", "Great Initiation" and
"Test
>that's Best" for mankind, go to  that now includes an
>automated shopping cart for custom orders.
>
>Work smart, move fast, and keep in touch with that holy of holy's.
>
>Note:
>
>Read the following article and ask yourself:
>
>Would our Commander-in-chief lead U.S. into WWIII for altruistic reasons?
>Or is this the way a habitual sexual predator gets even with moralist
fanatics
>of a "right wing conspiracy" against him?
>
>Is it possible that Clinton is the 3rd anti-Christ under David Rockefeller
and
>his power elite minions...
>just like Hitler was the 2nd anti-Christ under John D. Rockefeller and his
I.G.
>Farben partners/minions?
>
>Few people know the history of John D. and his merger with the
drug/chemical
>cartel of Europe (I.G. Farber) right before WWII, supplying Hitler
throughout
>the war with oil and technology to keep the war machine going.
>
>Even fewer know that ALL of Hitler's top officers were top officers from
I.G.
>Farben who supplied the poison gas for the death camps and carried out the
>orders of the 3rd Reich... to enforce the new cartel agreements being
forged by
>war throughout Europe.
>
>And how many know that half of Hitlers war gold went to Rockefeller's
>pharmaceutical companies through which they planned to build a powerbase
for
>the 4rth Reich". (Dr. Horowitz documents this well in his tape album, THE
>ROCKEFELLER, KISSINGER, BUSH CONNECTION AND RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH at
>www.tetrahedron.org)
>
>Dr. Horowitz gives the history on Operation PaperClick whereby "Nazi
hunter"
>Kissinger brought over Hitler top virologist with tens of thousands of
>retroviruses into U.S. biowar labs like Fort Deitrick... and documents the
>paper trail on insider government/corporate contracts that created and
deployed
>AIDS and other cancer retroviruses into the U.S. population and central
Africa
>via vaccination campaigns.  Not only were millions of baby boomers
inoculated
>with these biological time bombs, now killing one of three Americans
(polio
>vaccines), but so was the gay community (Hepatitis B vaccines), the
elderly
>(flu shots), and active military (Gulf War vaccines causing Gulf War
>Syndrome).  Horowitz also clearly documents that mandatory vaccines at
birth
>are the real cause of crib death of thousand of infants in the U.S.
>
>Is not Rockefeller's medical-industrial complex (allopathic disease care
system
>called "health care") the last major industry monopoly to be deregulated?
Was
>not the health care power grab/takeover of 1/5th of the economy the first
major
>policy thrust of Clinton when first elected? (After 1st proclaiming the
value
>of sodomy and child sacrifice as homosexual and abortion "rights")
>
>Caps

[CTRL] THE STORY OF TAPS

[Bill Richer]

 -Caveat Lector-

THE STORY OF TAPS

 It all began in 1862 during the Civil War, when Union Army Captain Robert
 Ellicombe was with his men near Harrison's Landing in Virginia.  The
 Confederate Army was on the other side of the narrow strip of land. During
 the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moan of a soldier who lay mortally
 wounded on the field.  Not knowing if it was a Union or Confederate soldier,
 the captain decided to risk his life and bring the stricken man back for
 medical attention.  Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the captain
 reached the stricken soldier and began pulling him toward his encampment.
 When the captain finally reached his own lines, he discovered it was
 actually a Confederate soldier, but the soldier was dead.  The captain lit a
 lantern.  Suddenly he caught his breath and went numb with shock.  In the
 dim light, he saw the face of the soldier.  It was his own son. The boy had
 been studying music in the South when the war broke out.  Without telling
 his father, he enlisted in the Confederate Army.  The following morning,
 heartbroken, the father asked permission of his superiors to give his son a
 full military burial despite his enemy status. His request was partially
 granted.  The captain had asked if he could have a group of Army band
 members play a funeral dirge of the son at the funeral.  That request was
 turned down since the soldier was a Confederate.  Out of respect for the
 father, they did say they could give him only one musician.  The captain
 chose a bugler.  He asked the bugler to play a series of musical notes he
 found on a piece of paper in the pocket of the dead youth's uniform.  This
 wish was granted.  This music was the haunting melody we now know as "Taps"
 used at military funerals.

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[CTRL] Air Force 2025

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/index.html

Air Force 2025.  An interesting site.  I was told that Volume 5 is
classified.  If so, there it is curious that it is up on the Net.

Hilary

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[CTRL] Where is the COX REPORT? (God Bless America!)

[Peter L. Sroufe]

 -Caveat Lector-

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for
he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the
traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers
rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to
his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to
the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of
a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the
pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer
resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."
--Cicero in a speech to the Roman Senate, as recorded by Sallust
--
"If our culture is going to be conserved, we need to dethrone the dominant
authorities that threaten it."
Samuel Francis

Bard

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[CTRL] APACHE HELICOPTER DUSTS BURNET COUNTY

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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APACHE HELICOPTER DUSTS
BURNET COUNTY
Part I

Part II next week
This is the clip from the Burnet Newspaper after the spraying in early
March.
You havent heard anything yet

http://www.alltexas.net/news/txburnet.html

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[CTRL] Rapist asks for more Kosovo funds; $6 billion

[Peter L. Sroufe]

"If each shot (the Serb troops) fire kills at least
every third enemy, that will be the price which the aggressor will have
to pay for setting foot on our land. We are ready to wage a nationwide war."

Bard

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 World News.url

[CTRL] Homosexuals, DNA Source Code, Bush, CIA and more

[1lls0081]

 -Caveat Lector-

Rough Outline 1

a) Year(s) Bush caught as a pedophile
b) year Marc Dutreoux “the pedophile and serial killer”
was in action (ref. 10 and 11)
c) Coors connections with  Regan, Bush, Gore, Dole or
   their families. (ref 8)
d) year(s) Clinton was governor of Arkansas – When the
plasma was sold, that had STD’s in it.
e) the fact that AIDS has not been proved to be
cause by a virus.

Canada and other countries low on plasma because
of AIDS.

Africa losing one of it’s ways of making money
(it can not sell plasma because of AIDS).

More turning to pedophilia in the belief that children do
not have AIDS, yet.

France not planting as many flowers for perfumes
and fragrances (losing land) these are being based
on petro chemicals or just chemicals instead.
Rising rate of allergies.

CIA (Bush) “connected” to getting many welfare
recipients hooked on drugs.  Convicted Felons in
prisons in the news over their receiving food stamps.
Students with rich parents receiving food stamps when
they do not need them.  In cutting these people out they
cut out many legitimate families that need food stamps.

Willie Nelson in trouble with the IRS – but could it
have been because of “Farm Aid” and the fact that
he helped the farmers – instead of just because of
back taxes.

Belgium having problems, some countries see
pedophilia as normal.  Some places in the Soviet Union
allow sex as low as 14, too.

A Ruler (King or Queen) could not control all the
subjects personally, previously.  But with Data Bases
what government needs that autonomity of the states,
or even to have banks or any kind of professional or
education.  America’s “Rulers” are promising the
world because they do not see that they will have to
deliver.  With cloning and the potential that they might
be around hundreds of years, they want complete
control.  W.W.II was a dry run on how to do it to the
USA.  Why has it been slow?  They want to undermine
the constitutional ideas completely – world wide.  To
have complete control of the world.  Many see it as
Something that  “1984” by George Orwell or “Brave
New World” Aldous Huxley, it will be more like
Germany written by Adolph Hitler and Comp.  These
people are just putting out propaganda leading you to
these ideas.

AARP one of the largest special interest groups,
think what would happen it these people were
around hundreds of years because of cloning.
We are polluting their world.  Why do they need
so many people, they would think of us as a surplus.

Take America off the gold standard, inflate the prices
so that the land has little value to agriculture, put
individual farmers out of business by creating
catastrophes, all land being paid for with loans from
banks, declare a emergency take over banks,
“government” owns all land.  Take us off animal
products because animal breeders would see the
effects of what “they” are putting out as food faster
– more generations of animals.  Fur breeders would
see it the fastest.

They have attempted to put together a psychological
climate that justifies what they are doing.

Now I say that they are insane!  Why?  If we replicate,
where will we get the source code?  Take a look
at the wilderness – it is a DNA source code.  Where
are they documenting it?  They are destroying our value.
If there were an intergalactic stock market, what would
they trade in?  Gold and Diamonds seem to be in
many meteorites, probably common in space.  How
about in DNA source codes?  If you think about the
diversity of color and body styles in Africa you can
understand why the Dye companies that became
Pharmicudical companies would want to control
that knowledge and have it where many of us do
not think of Africa on those terms.  The different
hormones, steroids, minerals, vitamins ECT that
have contributed to Africa’s diversity.

Think of Deer or any other grazing animal, they
will overgraze their territory without predators.
They are not self sustainable, they go to the limit
of the advisable food supply, and the ones that
lead them do so mainly on the basis of brute strength.
When you take out the natural predators you better
have hunters.  They are putting us on the basis of
food animals and ruling by the basis of brute strength,
by not giving us all the knowledge we need to make
informed decisions.

Getting back to that “potential” intergalactic stock market,
when the Earth can not be traded as a source of
“DNA source codes” I guess it will be traded as a
source of food animals.  Consider they have shown
that Humans are non sustainable, have been shown
to be relatively brainless but we could take care of
ourselves until harvested.  With the amount of
chemicals doing us in, it seems as if we are suppose to
bury ourselves.  If that happens and they do decrease
the world like that, and we do go on the basis of
food animals – take heart in the knowledge that
they will be the first ones culled out!  Why?  Because
they would get rid of the very breeders that 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Troubling Questions About Rambouillet

[Colleen Jones]

 -Caveat Lector-

Was it Huxley who said:

You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you mad?

Have you noticed, Clinton says over and over, it is a free country, that
is Americahe does not care what people say, and that is the secret
of Kings and Queens who could care less what anybody says or thinks.

However, after the death of Princess Diana, the Queen did look a little
nervous and tried to do the right thing.

So say what you want - Clinton does not care; but there are two poor
kids in jail now who got into a lot of trouble with the FBI, who does
care..and who sits over that bunch, the Mad Butcher of WACOJanet
Reno.and in the other corner, we have the Mad Butcher of the Balkans
and behind their skirts, smiling and acting boyish is our President, the
Coward of the Country, taking bows for his humanitarian efforts in the
Balkans.

You shall now the truth, and the truth shall make you sick.

Colleen

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[CTRL] Does K = (or approximate) K?

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

R>>


>From wsws.org

 WSWS : News & Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis

Korea: the next Kosovo?
By Philip Cunningham
17 April 1999

The following article expresses the views of Philip Cunningham, a 1998
Nieman Fellow at Harvard University. In submitting his article Cunningham
noted that the "pro-war capitalist advertising vehicle known as the New York
Times" declined to publish this commentary.

The World Socialist Web Site encourages serious contributions from readers,
academics, historians and others on the historical and political questions
raised by the Balkan war. For the information of our readers, the WSWS will
publish submissions of political and intellectual merit even if they do not
fully correspond to the views of the WSWS Editorial Board.

The lavish 1999 Academy Awards ceremony, reigned over by the delightful
Gwyneth Paltrow, replete with song, dance and celebration, may one day be
regarded as the last hurrah of America's near-universal appeal to the world
community, the last gasp of peacetime America before the hostilities
started.

War was something far away and imaginary, like Saving Private Ryan and The
Thin Red Line, when all eyes were on Hollywood. Yet a few days later,
Clinton, Berger, Albright and Cohen were on TV telling a disbelieving nation
that American credibility was on the line in an isolated mountainous place
called Kosovo. Increasingly sober bulletins upped the tension, with talk of
punitive bombing strikes during a last minute bout of self-conscious summit
diplomacy by the Nobel Prize-seeking Richard Holbrooke. The war was about to
be televised, but before it was, a credibility-challenged President Clinton
asked his fellow Americans to take time out to look up Kosovo on the map.

Imbibing the arrogance Clinton's foreign policy team, NATO offered Serb
President Milosevic a flawed peace deal and then took him to war for not
signing it. From then on in it was bombs, bombs and bombs, mixed with
draconian actions by the Serb government, the forced relocation of Albanian
Kosovars and then a flood of refugees that a surprised and unprepared NATO
claimed they had been expected all along.

Rhetoric hardened on both sides and the high-tech bombing campaign
escalated, though at 19 nations to one, it was a bit surprising to see
little Serbia bouncing back after attack. NATO appeared to be both bully and
weakling, causing one to wonder how it might have fared had it fallen into
battle with the Soviet Union in its prime.

US contempt for the insignificance of Yugoslavia was initially demonstrated
in an air campaign designed to inflict a maximum of terror without easy
retribution, sort of like shooting at a crowd below a well-defended tower.
It was a classic Clintonian attack, like the bombing of Sudan, Afghanistan
and Iraq in past last ten months, except that post-impeachment Clinton
didn't want to feel the Serbs' pain. The key of using so many
television-guided cruise missiles was to wage war that isn't war, to hurt
without being hurt, the ultimate yuppie indulgence, making a video game of
death from the air.

Now daily briefings at the White House, Pentagon and NATO to tell us that
the fight, however ill-conceived and costly, will take time and must go on
for the sake of NATO credibility, even if it is a bloody war in an
"unimportant" place. The unstated assumption is that "important" places are
the real target.

So what's in store for an important place like Korea, north and south?

If, as many US politicians are now saying, Kosovo is not vital to US
interests, but credibility is at stake and an example must be set, North
Korea comes to mind as the nation for whom the lesson is intended. Iraq has
been battered by US bombs on and off for seven years, so if there are
lessons to be learned from being bombed, the Iraqis know all about that.

The sudden, unexpected descent into a punitive war by the US and its NATO
allies is of shocking relevance to parties on both sides of the 35th
parallel, for if there ever was a country that has been a constant thorn in
the side of the US over the last five decades it's North Korea. Peace today,
war tomorrow. It happened just last month.

If the US were to attack the North, one can hazard a guess that in addition
to fierce fighting and millions of war refugees, all sorts of unexpected
terrible things would happen. More than anything else the unfolding battle
in Yugoslavia demonstrates the unpredictability of war.

Three possible outcomes of NATO's war with Serbia give pause for thought on
the balance of power in Northeast Asia.

1) If the US-led coalition wins, the world's policeman will consolidate its
strength and be on the lookout for human rights violations elsewhere on the
globe to justify forceful intervention. China is too big to attack, Japan
and ROK are allies, home to US troops. North Korea stands out on the short
list.

A victorious US might then call North Korea's bluff: let your people free or
be bombed. The recent

[CTRL] Fw: Troubling Questions About Rambouillet

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 
 
 
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landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + 
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- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 5:23 PM
Subject: Troubling Questions About Rambouillet
Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, 
Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
For Release 5 
P.M. Eastern Time -- Friday, April 16, 1999TROUBLING QUESTIONS ABOUT 
RAMBOUILLETThe Clinton administration has repeatedly claimed that 
bombing is necessary because Milosevic would not agree to negotiations, 
citing his refusal to accept the Rambouillet text. But did Rambouillet 
represent real negotiations or an ultimatum?Some have said that the 
Serbian parliament "voted to be bombed" because it refused NATO troops as 
outlined in Rambouillet. But The New York Times has reported (April 8) that 
"just before the bombing, when [the Serbian parliament] rejected NATO troops 
in Kosovo, it also supported the idea of a United Nations force to monitor a 
political settlement there." Did the administration start bombing because it 
rejected the idea of a UN force and insisted on a NATO one? Has that 
insistence blocked the recent German peace plan?The Rambouillet text 
of Feb. 23, a month before NATO began bombing, contains provisions that seem 
to have provided for NATO to occupy the entire Federal Republic of 
Yugoslavia, not just Kosovo. Excerpts from Appendix (B):7. NATO 
personnel shall be immune from any form of arrest, investigation, or 
detention by the authorities in the FRY.8. NATO personnel shall enjoy... 
free and unrestricted passage and unimpeded access throughout the FRY 
including associated airspace and territorial waters.11. NATO is granted 
the use of airports, roads, rails and ports without payment... 15. [NATO 
shall have] the right to use all of the electromagnetic 
spectrum...Analysts available to discuss this key matter 
include:ROBERT HAYDEN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director of the Center for 
Russian and East European Studies at the University of 
PittsburghSETH ACKERMAN, http://www.fair.org A 
media analyst with Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting who monitors the 
European pressJAN OBERG, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.transnational.org/pressinf/index.html 
Director of the Transnational Foundation (TFF) in SwedenSAM 
HUSSEINI, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.accuracy.org/press.htm 
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SMITH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.basicint.org 
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484-9167

Re: [CTRL] Skolnick: Questions About Serbia (fwd)

[Colleen Jones]

 -Caveat Lector-

This whole "war" is unconstitutional, and we do not belong to the UN
because we do not pay duesas for NATO - they have become the NAZI
Stormtroopers, right on target.Russia has always been a big brother
to Serbia...but face it Yeltsin, is nothing but a wax dummy if that is
really him...

Now here is somethingI am wondering about.   Madame Albright it was
found out, was of Jewish descent - when they escaped to Yugoslavia was
it, and hid out, they were still Jewish.  She maintains she did not know
this - big surprise, why?  After what the Nazi's did to the Jewis people
you think she would have been proud of this heritage and would have
battled against Nazi type conduct; yet this meddesome, obnoxious woman,
reflects everything, a jew is supposed to hate.

Now - who was the gunman who shot up the library at the Mormon Temple
sitewhere people were researching their family trees.where Mrs.
Albrights lineage would have been carefully recorded.  For instance when
George Bush ran they announced he was of royal descent (well, so am I
and I cana prove my pedigree), that Ronald Reagan descended from Brian
Boru, as I recall..and Jerry Falwell states the Messiah who will be
here soon, will be of royal descent.and Jesus was, heir to the
throne of King Davida deposed King.

So, from where did this information come as to Mrs. Albright's Jewish
background; could this information have been stored in the archives of
the mormon church caves, etc., and believe me..they got me traced
back to the monkeys too if they ever want to look because they said I,
descended from Satan because the line went to the Plantagenet
line.so much for witches, warlocks, and hoke pokey.

However, why would a gunman shoot up the library where family records
are researched...of all the places in the world, why - well, this is
the archive which holds the key to the DNA of the world..
was someone trying to deliver a message to someone, to keep their
background checks to themselves.

How did Albright get the job as secretary of State where she would be in
line for President of the US, if 3 other people would meet with an
accidentbut then, she could not take the post because just recently
I believe, she was first naturalized.wonder if the Mormons keep a
record of that.

Now to add to the mystery.years ago the John Birch Society got into
the Mornon Church - it is a free country, but believe me that group has
the Blue Book of Who's Who, and they never let you forget it.

Now these are what you call real family secrets, the skeleton in the
closet; Madam Albright did not know her parents were jewishI doubt
that very much.

What did happen at the Mormon Family Tree Center that date.as a
message delivered and did someone get the picture?

Remember too, there are those who believe the Mormon Church, which was
Chartered by the USA.will be like the Church of Englandwell, no
thanksthe thought of that, makes me shudder.

In essense, this is a conspiracy list; and I toss my thoughts out about
the incident at the Mormon Church, because well face it, those archives
are the stuff spies are made of.


Colleen

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Re: [CTRL] Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

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In a message dated 4/16/99 4:18:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

> In this article I will describe the Russian system as it developed
>   from 1977 to 1983, and give several examples of how it was used
>   during that period.  But first I will try to convince readers of
>   the credibility of my main source of information about it.
>
>   My main source is articles published in a weekly legislative
>   newspaper, WISCONSIN REPORT (WR), of Brookfield, Wisconsin, (P.O.
>   Box 45, zip 53005), written by the late Dr. Peter David Beter, a
>   well-respected Washington, DC attorney, Doctor of Jurisprudence,
>   and expert and consultant in international law, finance, and
>   intelligence

This is the same Dr. Beter who claimed that there were several Jimmy Carter
clones and that the real Jimmy Carter (and family) had been kidnapped or
eliminated.  I believe he also made similar claims about other world leaders.

as always, Caveat Lector

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[CTRL] Skolnick: Questions About Serbia (fwd)

[Brian Redman]

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SKOLNICK: QUESTIONS ABOUT SERBIA


(CNNS,  04/17/99)  --  Sherman  H.  Skolnick,  of  the  Citizens'
Committee to Clean Up  the  Courts, reports as follows.  (Contact
info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office, 773-375-5741):

--
Questions About Serbia
By Sherman H. Skolnick

A large number of Serbians, citizens and resident aliens, live in
the Chicago area.   The  Immigration  and Naturalization Service,
INS, has joined with the FBI and CIA to do dirty  tricks  against
them, just like the bad old days of the Civil Rights and Anti-War
Movements.   Are  the  FBI  and  INS  grabbing  and detaining, or
deporting some of them?   Are Serbian-Americans being required to
quickly show their proof of citizenship?

Albania and ethnic Albanians in Kosovo  have  become  major  drug
traffickers  for  Red  China.   The  Clinton White House, soft on
drugs, is protecting the Kosova Liberation Army, KLA, the biggest
druglords in Europe.  Why?

The Geneva Convention provides  for humane treatment of PRISONERS
OF WAR.  With no declaration of war by  either  side,  does  this
International  Law  apply?   Are  the  United  Nations  and  NATO
signatories and part of the Geneva Convention?  If our pilots and
ground  troops  are  captured,  are  THEY  covered  by the Geneva
Convention?

Some day an international tribunal may declare the  U.S.  as  war
criminals   and   required  to  pay  damages  to  Serbia.   Great
grandchildren of present Americans  may  have  to pay the bill to
reconstruct Serbia.  Is this all  a  scheme  to  wreck  the  U.S.
Dollar in favor of the new European currency, the Euro Dollar?

Kosovo  has  one  of  the  most  lucrative  mining  operations in
Europe---lead, zinc,  cadmium,  silver,  and  gold.   Is  the war
designed so big dealers can steal this?  And what about the  huge
offshore  oil  deposits  in  the Adriatic?  The Rockefellers, the
British, the Pope, and the Italians as well as Croatia and Serbia
all claim  ownership.   Do  the  Rockefellers  and their cronies,
British Petroleum Co., want  to  keep  this  off  the  market  to
support the worldwide price of oil?

The  monopoly press as war-mongers and oil pirates do not give us
the details.  If they  could  get  away  with it, they would shut
down or censor Internet, currently the only free press around.

Is the following order by President Clinton unconstitutional?

  THE  WHITE  HOUSE,  Office  of  the  Press  Secretary,  For
  immediate release, April 13, 1999

  EXECUTIVE  ORDERDESIGNATION  OF  FEDERAL  REPUBLIC   OF
  YUGOSLAVIA   (SERBIA/MONTENEGRO),   ALBANIA,  THE  AIRSPACE
  ABOVE, AND ADJACENT WATERS AS A COMBAT ZONE

  Pursuant to the authority vested in me as President by  the
  Constitution  and  laws  of  the  United States of America,
  including  section  112  of  the  Internal  Revenue Code of
  1986{26  U.S.C.112}  I  designate, for the purposes of that
  section, the following locations,  including  the  airspace
  above  such  locations, as an area in which Armed Forces of
  the United States are and have been engaged in combat:

  --The Federal Republic of Yugoslavia(Serbia/Montenegro);
  --Albania;
  --the Adriatic Sea;
  --the Ionian Sea north of the 39th
parallel.

  For the purposes of this order, I designate March 24, 1999,
  as the date of the commencement of combatant activities  in
  such zone.

  WILLIAM J. CLINTON   THE WHITE HOUSE, April 13, 1999


Is this order proper under  the  Constitution!?  AND THE IRS CODE
AUTHORIZES THIS!?  WOW!  Really?  Stay tuned.

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