[CTRL] "The Secret of Anti-Gravity": [Russian] Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons

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A Briefing on [Russian] Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons
by Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden (retd.), 1986
Copyright

Colonel Bearden is a nuclear engineer, wargames analyst, and military
tactician with over 26 years experience in air defense systems, tactics and
operations, technical intelligence, antiradiation missile countermeasures,
nuclear weapons employment, computerized wargames and military
systems requirements.

"The Secret of Anti-Gravity" or how to dematerialize or teleport a la
Philadelphia
experiment.

"They could seem to materialize and dematerialize.

"They could seem to plunge into the ocean or rise out of it.

"They could even seem to operate under the ocean or inside the earth itself.

"Such anomalous vehicle performances have been seen all over the world,
particularly since a few years after WWII."

Comments?  Alfred
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[CTRL] Quake, rattle and roll

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I don't know who this guy is, but he gives me the shakes.

earthman

Posted by Kev. on January 28, 2000 at 16:45:37:

Some very disturbing figures are coming up.
I hope I am wrong in this, but there could be a major new development
in the Pacific plate, there seems to be a shift in the ocean floor down
through the centre of the plate, it could be that the plate is about to
fracture into two plates, (an east pacific plate and a west pacific
plate), this would be disastrous for the island groups like Hawaii and
Kiribati, just to mention two.
The normal pressure release points around the edges are still showing
intense increases in activity as far as earthquake activity goes but it
will be interesting to watch for increased volcanic activity for the
Hawain group.
A lot of the "traditional" pressure release valves have closed and
become dormant, so new weak spots will rupture with the increasing
pressure, there may be enough water over the central pacific regions to
maintain enough downward force to stop a total split, but we could see
a partial split down to the region of the Cook Islands and the
remainder of the pressure release cause some major shifts on the West
coast USA and the region from Japan to Fiji.
The solar index keeps rising way beyond all predictions, and while the
eggheads tip the peak as March/April this year I am still tipping the
peak will not be reached until August/September.
The next series of three eclpises will be in JULY, and the last of the
present three will be in the begining of Feb.
Remember this set of circumstances for 2011 but look at JUNE, and watch
for the sunspots to exceed 350.



Posted by Kev. on February 01, 2000 at 12:34:22:

Hold on to your partners and get ready to rock, a big week to ten days
of activity.
Watch for shakes in Alaska, Chile/Peru, Pacific Islands and the Japan
areas (I know that's a big score but the Pacific plate is really
feeling the pinch at the moment)
The 'rubber band' effect may give those poor buggers in the nth.
eastern med. area a bit of trouble also.
Oh yes, I forgot to mention, if you live in California it could be a
good time to move ;-)

Pressure will peak on the 5th 6th but the main pull will be into the
southern part of the Indian Ocean, the antipoidal stresses should
manifest in the northern Pacific Plate, centred just below Alaska, the
rubber band effect will smash back into the upper half of the Pacific
plate from about the 8th, the pressures generated may be enough to
start the split in the Pacific plate but I am looking more toward
July/August for that, with the Sun closer to the tropic of Cancer.
All just supposition though, it depends on the area where the pressure
rise will occur, the crust is thick and solid in some places but
relatively thin and pliant in others, let's hope the coming events are
in the former regions.

We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift

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[CTRL] Tooth Traitors book online - Citizens for Mercury Relief

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Online book:
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[CTRL] 2/8/00 Webcast to feature Corvallis WTO teach-in

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please distribute widely !

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This is a release making the Corvallis Oregon WTO teach-in freely
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2/6/00

CONTACT: Mike Van Handel, (541) 752-2269 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Webcast to feature Corvallis WTO teach-in

Audio of Tuesday evening's WTO teach-in at the Majestic Theatre will be
available to anyone in the world with Web access via a "webcast", according
to Sam Ettaro of Unisun Communications, Corvallis.

Ettaro said that he was attracted to the teach-in, organized by Corvallis
Action on Globalization, as a subject for a webcast by "the potential to
educate people who may not be up to speed on just what is happening with
the WTO and the general 'globalization' of the economy: what it means,
where it's taking us, and the direct impact on our everyday lives...

"Also, it's very important to keep the momentum going after the Seattle
protest.  We need to be sure that we keep this issue in the forefront of
people's minds. It's all-encompassing  and affects every single aspect of
our lives."

Information on the webcast is available on the World Wide Web at
www.unisun.org.

Potentially, the webcast can make the teach-in available to tens of
thousands of people around the world, Ettaro said. People listening to the
event on the web will be able to participate in near real-time by e-mailing
questions or comments through the Unisun website as the event is  underway.

"Right now, due to monetary constraints  we're going to have a limited
number of feeds available," Ettaro said. "For now, I'm just telling people:
'The early surfer catches the feed!'

Ettaro founded Unisun three years ago with the intent of basing his company
on the internet. He began live webcasts in January when he covered a
performance of Kerosene Dream at the Fox and Firkin in Corvallis. A few
days later, he webcast a performance by Greg Brown.

"During the Greg Brown show," Ettaro said, "we received responses from
Quebec,
St. Paul, Colorado, AlaskaAll over the place."

The teach-in begins at 7 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 8.

[ This is Pacific Time, or 3 a.m February 9 Universal time ]

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[CTRL] FW: ABC ATTACKS ORGANIC FOOD

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check out the first three chapters of this excellent new book by
downloading...

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-Original Message-
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Dr Mae-Wan Ho and others have been pointing out the dangers of mutant
bacteria
and viruses developing from GE/GM plants.  They claim they have evidence of
dangerous mutations having already occurred.

BTW, the first three chapters of Mae-Wan Ho's book, GENETIC ENGINEERING:
DREAM
OR NIGHTMARE? The Brave New World of Bad Science and Big Business, are
available
for download at the publisher's web site at
http://www.gatewaybooks.com/alt-h/genetics/genetics.html.  This book has
been
favorably compared with Rachel Carson's SILENT SPRING.

Since this book has not been available in the USA, there's been some
question as
to whether it was effectively banned by certain corporate interests.  It's a
very powerful, very damning book.  But I've been informed that it might soon
be
available in the USA.  In any case, it is now available from the publisher
at
the above web site, payment accepted in pounds or dollars.

PS to Ken: Good work!



--
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[CTRL] ABC ATTACKS ORGANIC FOOD

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Good piece on mainstream media's professional liars & brainwashers.

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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:17:58 -0500
From: Brasscheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ABC's 20/20 John Stossel, who has raised the art of shilling
for big business to a fine art, is now at work educating the
public about the *dangers* of organic food.

In Stossel's twisted universe, the market is god,
unless of course the market is not buying what his
clients want it to buy. Then the market is misguided
and needs a multi-million dollar mass media re-education
program. ("You will buy crap and like it.")

One "expert" given a huge audience by Stossel's program
pointed out that manure has a lot of bacteria in it
and therefore crops grown organically are more
dangerous than those sprayed with pesticide. Uh huh.
Earth to expert: most farmers, regardless of their
methods, use manure when they can get it because
its cheaper and better than manufactured fertilizer.

The expert, Dennis Avery, is identified simply as a
former researcher for the Agriculture Department.
No other affiliation is given. I guess the brilliant
research team at ABC couldn't find his current day job which
is Director of the Hudson Institute's "Center for Global
Food Issues."

Call 1-800-222-1556 and you can hire him to give one of
his popular speeches "Organic Farming's Threat to People
and Wildlife" or "Saving the Planet with Pesticides and
Plastic." I kid you not.

Some other achievements his employer the Hudson Institute
crows about on its web site include:

* Taking the lead on pushing for the expansion of NATO membership
to the countries of Central Europe (I'm sure the people of
Yugoslavia appreciate that.)

* Helping transform many aspects of the criminal and law enforcement
systems in Indianapolis (Remind me to not go there.)

* Advising dozens (sic) of former communist governments on how to make
the transition to democracy and market economies, (Great work
guys, especially in Russia) and

* Designing and implementing innovative models of education reform
across the country. (Now there's a comforting thought.)

Avery's also been featured in the Wall Street Journal as well.
Here's one person's answer to his ravings in that rag:
http://www.wildoats.com/know/organics.html

Another Avery gem from the Stossel slimefest: Avery says
"organic farmers waste land and resources because they
lose so much of their crop to  weeds and insects. Avery
says it's today's conventional farmers who have performed
an environment-saving miracle by taking nitrogen to make
chemical fertilizer, using pesticides and genetically
engineered seeds to feed more people, using less land."

Stossel's informed conclusion: organic food isn't
safe, it isn't particularly nutritious, and it isn't
good for the environment at all.

We can laugh, but when's the last time you saw
a coherent rationale for organic farming on
a major news program or in a mass circulated
periodical?

Avery's doing a good job as this January '99
press release from the Hudson Institute shows:

"Sierra Club  Executive Endorses High-Yield Agriculture,
Biotech Crops:

Carl Pope, executive director of the Sierra Club, has
endorsed high-yield agriculture, including bio-engineered
crops, because high farm yields will help save wildlife
habitat and wild species."

I got that off *Monsanto's* web site by the way:
http://www.monsanto.co.uk/news/99/january99/14199_Hudson.html

You don't think companies like Monsanto actually fund the
"science" and public policy work of people like Dennis Avery
do you? Goodness! What's this world coming to?

There was supposed to be a comment board on the ABC
web site for Stossel's story, but it was either never
set up or quickly taken down. I wonder why...

Another great "investigation" John. Your Pulitzer is in the
mail.

Is it really that wrong to want to see someone hung by
his thumbs and horsewhipped?

Just asking.



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[CTRL] MASSIVE SECURITY BREACH & COVERUP by EX-CIA CHIEF

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COMMUNIQUE  #2263  http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/church
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http://www.vatican.va/library_archives/vat_secret_archives/index.htm

FREE DSL  ???   http://WWW.FREEDSL.COM   http://www.truthbeknown.com

DEICIDE - "Do you really think so ?"

"Did you go yourself and examine this, or how
do you know?"

[Socrates 469 - 399 B.C.E.].

RALPH PREDICTS NEXT PRESIDENT WILL BE ALGORE [ask why]




MASSIVE SECURITY BREACH & COVERUP by EX-CIA CHIEF
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COVERUP ALERT.

Porn sites, and Russian scientist involved...

My theory here is that the strategy here is
"accidental" massive leaks are being used so that
there is 'plausible deniablity' meanwhile the info
leaks occur and quid quo pro payoffs are still made.
Not reported below but in other reports are details of
how 17,000 pages of the top secret documents that
Duetch took home with him were then erased by him, so
we do not even know what EXACTLY he may have leaked
other than their classification.  Do you really think
this stuff is accidental ?

http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=61839

  Ex-CIA chief's computer use scrutinized

 Thursday, 3 February 2000 0:33 (ET)

 Ex-CIA chief's computer use scrutinized
 By PAMELA HESS
 WASHINGTON, Feb. 2
 (UPI)

 Unauthorized outsiders were in a position to gain
 access to state secrets that former CIA director John
 Deutch had stored on his home computers in violation
 of agency rules and possibly federal law, according
 to senior intelligence sources.

 The sources said Deutch, who was stripped of
 his security clearances in August, two years after he
 retired from the CIA, was in electronic mail contact
 with someone who identified himself as a Russian
 scientist. His computer was also used to access "high
 risk" Web sites, including pornographic sites.

 Deutch lost his access to the nation's
 top-secret information when it was revealed that he
 had regularly created top-secret documents on
 CIA-issued personal computers in his home that were
 not cleared to handle such sensitive information.

 CIA Director George Tenet said Wednesday
 there was no way of knowing whether any information
 Deutch put into his unclassified computer was
 intercepted by foreign governments or hackers.

 "We don't exclude the possibility," Tenet
 testified before the Senate Select Committee on
 Intelligence. "I can't tell you it has or has not
 occurred." "There is no evidence to suggest that it
 happened," he said.

 Tenet said Deutch put "enormously sensitive
 material" at the highest level of classification on
 his unsecured Macintosh home computer which was
 connected to the Internet.

 "He was sloppy in what he did," Tenet said of
 his friend and predecessor. "He worked around the
 clock. He didn't think about what he was doing.
 Nevertheless...as director I believe he should have
 known better."

 Computers that don't have exceptional
 security devices and are connected to the Internet
 run the risk of having their hard drives examined,
 copied, altered, or wiped out by hackers. In light of
 that vulnerability, the Defense Department and CIA
 put top-secret information on secure private networks
 inaccessible without a special computer and software.

 Deutch, who headed the CIA from May 1995 to
 December 1996, opted not to have the special system
 in his home and, instead, wrote many documents on his
 personal computers. Sources said secrets were in a
 position to be compromised because Deutch used the
 computer for e-mail and was in contact with someone
 who could have been a foreign agent.  Tenet said
 Deutch did not transfer information from the CIA's
 secure system to his home computer, but instead
 created documents that he would later put into the
 secure system.

 Ironically, Deutch was one of the first government
 officials to raise the flag about how vulnerable
 computers are to information attacks.

 "We have evidence that a number of countries
 around the world are developing the doctrine,
 strategies and tools to conduct information attacks,"
 Deutch told Congress in 1996.

 The CIA knew Deutch was using his home
 Macintosh computer to write and store highly
 classified documents, at least in 1997, after Deutch
 retired. The agency took no action -- failing to
 notify the Justice Department and Congress -- until
 August when Tenet suspended Deutch's security
 clearances.

 Tenet admitted the CIA botched the handling
 of security breaches by Deutch, but i

[CTRL] Drug agent pleads guilty in murder-for-hire plot

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Drug agent pleads guilty in murder-for-hire plot

 Mexico-based officer accused of
 revenge-killing plans

 02/05/2000

 By Tracey Eaton / The Dallas Morning News

 A U.S. drug agent has pleaded guilty to
 charges in connection with a
 murder-for-hire plot and probably will be
 sentenced to about seven years in prison,
 authorities said Friday.

 Salvador Martinez, 37, a Drug Enforcement
 Administration agent, was charged in
 December with plotting to avenge the 1995
 killing of his cousin in El Paso.

 Relatives said Mr. Martinez decided to
 plead guilty because he didn't want his
 family to have to endure a criminal trial.

 "The family wanted him to fight it, said Mr.
 Martinez's cousin, Phil Jordan, a former
 DEA agent living in Plano and brother of
 the slain man. "I feel confident that an
 American jury - or a Mexican jury - would
 have found him innocent."

 Mr. Martinez, who had been based in
 Monterrey, Mexico, was originally charged
 with violating federal murder-for-hire
 statutes and, if convicted, could have been
 sentenced to 10 years or more in prison. As
 part of a plea bargain, he pleaded guilty
 Thursday to one count of using interstate
 commerce facilities - in this case, a phone
 line - as part of the alleged plot.

 If the court accepts the agreement, Mr.
 Martinez will probably receive a sentence
 of seven years and three months.
 Sentencing is expected in March or April.

 Mervyn Mosbacker, the U.S. attorney for
 the Southern District of Texas, said Mr.
 Martinez "violated the trust of the
 American people, breaking the very laws
 he was sworn to uphold."

 The defendant's cousin, Lionel "Bruno"
 Jordan, 27, was killed during a carjacking
 in 1995. A Mexican teenager, Miguel Angel
 Flores, then 13, was convicted, but that
 decision was later overturned and he was
 freed.

 Mr. Martinez was accused of trying to hire
 a Mexican man to arrange the teenager's
 murder. The agent allegedly promised to
 pay him $10,000 and give him a
 government .38-caliber semi-automatic
 handgun, court documents show. The
 $10,000 would have evidently come from a
 DEA fund set aside for legitimate
 payments to informants, the documents
 show.

 Donnie Marshall, the DEA's acting
 administrator, said he condemns Mr.
 Martinez's actions "in the strongest terms.
 It is reprehensible when an individual
 takes the law into his own hands, made
 more egregious in this case by someone
 sworn to uphold the law."

 Mr. Martinez's relatives said they believe
 an informant - said to be a Mexican police
 commander - "set up" Mr. Martinez, taking
 advantage of his grief over his cousin's
 murder.

 "We don't want him to go to jail. We still
 believe that he is innocent," said the agent's
 cousin, Virginia Castaneda.

 "We've been praying he wouldn't accept
 the plea. But it came down to Sal's
 decision," Mr. Jordan said. "It's
 devastating."

 After his arrest, Mr. Martinez told The
 Dallas Morning News that his feelings over
 his cousin's murder "were misinterpreted
 and built into a criminal case."



 )1999 The Dallas Morning News

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[CTRL] McCain May Quit (fwd)

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Despite Lead in Polls McCain May Quit; Blames Dixville Notch

Despite his recent surge in the polls, and the fact that his
campaign is raking in thousands of dollars per hour on the
internet, BSNN has learned that John McCain is poised to drop out
of the Republican presidential primary. While most of the nation
has focused on McCain's stunning 19 point victory in the New
Hampshire primary, the McCain campaign has been in turmoil over
his 2 vote loss to George W. Bush in the tiny hamlet of Dixville
Notch, New Hampshire.

Never before has a Republican candidate lost the vote in Dixville
Notch and won the party's nomination, a fact that is not lost on
John McCain. "I think he has come to the conclusion that it just
doesn't make sense to continue raising and spending a lot of
campaign funds and trading jabs with Bush if the outcome is
already a foregone conclusion." Said a McCain aide. "I mean, New
Hampshire as a whole may have a lousy record of picking the
eventual nominee, but those people in Dixville Notch never miss.
Never."


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[CTRL] Arizona makes secession preparations

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Just in from Newshawk.

SUNDAY
FEBRUARY 6
2000
www.wnd.com

 TESTING THE FAITH
Arizona makes secession preparations
State resolution creates 'insurance policy' against martial law




By Julie Foster
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

An Arizona state legislative committee has approved a resolution calling for
the dissolution of the federal government in the event that it abolishes the
U.S. Constitution, declares martial law or confiscates firearms -- scenarios
some say are not unrealistic. Critics of the resolution, however, call the
measure a "total waste of time."
Karen Johnson, Arizona state representative

Rep. Karen Johnson, a Mesa Republican and chair of the House Committee on
Federal Mandates and States' Rights, authored the resolution which the
committee approved 3-2. Only the committee's vice-chair, Republican Rep.
Gail Griffin, abstained from voting.

Specifically, House Concurrent Resolution 2034 outlines the origin of the
United States, emphasizing the sovereignty of the states and their
constitutional right to "establish a new federal government for themselves
by following the precedent established by Article VII, Constitution of the
United States, in which nine of the existing thirteen states dissolved the
existing Union under the Articles of Confederation and automatically
superceded the Articles."

It also articulates constitutional violations committed by the federal
government as justification for the measure, saying "... the fifty current
principals, or signatories, to the [Constitution] have done well in honoring
and obeying it, yet the federal agent has, for decades, violated it in both
word and spirit. The many violations of the Constitution of the United
States by the federal government include disposing of federal property
without the approval of Congress, usurping jurisdiction from the states in
such matters as abortion and firearms rights and seeking control of public
lands within state borders," says the resolution.

By adopting HRC 2034, Arizona states its intention to dissolve the current
federal government with the approval of 34 other states and, in essence,
start over. Participating states would re-ratify and re-establish the
present Constitution "as the charter for the formation of a new federal
government, to be followed by the election of a new Congress and President
and the reorganization of a new judiciary," in keeping with the original
intent of the "founding fathers." Individual members of the military will
return to their respective states and report to the governor until a new
president is elected.

In addition, each state will assume a prorated portion of the national debt
and will own all land within its borders. After the new government is
formed, the remaining 15 states will be permitted to join the revised union
upon application, as was the case with the original union.

A three-year veteran to the Arizona Legislature, Johnson told the Sierra
Times the resolution is "insurance policy."

"If the federal government declares martial law or attempts to confiscate
guns, the states shouldn't have to put up with that," she said.

Joseph Stumph, well-known author and historian, testified in favor of the
resolution at the hearing.

"We're proposing that if things get as bad as they could get, that these
states won't allow the federal government to put us into a one-world
government," said Stumph, who is publishing a similar proposal in his home
state of Utah. "I don't expect we'll get 35 states to sign on. The American
people are not educated enough on this yet," he added.

The resolution was introduced Jan. 26, and now needs to be approved by the
Arizona House. Should HRC 2034 successfully complete the legislative
process, it will appear on the November ballot for voter approval. But one
legislator does not think the measure will be taken seriously.

Rep. Bill Brotherton, a Democrat member of Johnson's committee, called
efforts to promote the bill a "total waste of time."

"Obviously ... one of the more important issues we have is mental health in
this state," Brotherton said mockingly. "I wonder if we are going to have a
bill on the grassy knoll next to decide who shot Kennedy."

Johnson said she was asked by several Maricopa County residents to look into
preventing the federal government from asserting power not authorized by the
federal and state Constitutions. To Johnson, the resolution is a watered
down, limited version of the "Ultimatum Resolution," written and promoted by
Stump.

Johnson said HRC 2034 was introduced in response to recent actions by the
Clinton administration regarding the Grand Canyon. On a recent trip to the
landmark, President Clinton declared three new national monuments,
threatening the property and livelihood of ranchers in the region.

Fears of martial law and firearm confiscation are mere "conspiracy theories"
to

[CTRL] Fw: New Steamshovel Press Newsletter

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Hi all,

If any documentary makers are interested in making a video about Jim Keith,
please can you contact Chris Everard at Enigma TV. Thanks.
www.enigmatv.com
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Nicky


-Original Message-
From: uri dowbenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, 7 February 2000 10:11
Subject: New Steamshovel Press Newsletter


Steamshovel Press Electronic NewsletterFebruary 2k

* Steamshovel Press editor Kenn Thomas' new book, Maury Island UFO: The
Crisman
Conspiracy, just won one of the Anomalist Book Awards for 1999.
   Big smack on the lips to Patrick Huyghe, who decides these things at
http://www.anomalist.com/books/awards99.html.
   Even if his glowing assessment of the book as "weird", does not incline
you to purchase, click on through to the amazon.com page about the book
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1881532194/theanomalist/102-8786688-
0129621).
   There you will find more favorable assessment from Gary Leslie, a
long time ufologist who at one time corresponed with main character examined
by the book, Fred Crisman.

   * The new issue of Steamshovel Press is at the printer! $6 for
Steamshovel
Press #17, the Table Tapping Into The New Millennium issue. It features
never
before published interviews with William S. Burroughs, Allen Ginsberg and
Timothy Leary, plus Tom Christopher on Neal Cassady and Adam Gorightly
dissecting Jack Kerouac's only science fiction story.

Other articles include Acharya S on Rajneesh; an examination of
conspiracy in the comic book industry; more mysterious adventures of Dan
Griffith; Wayne Henderson's
stunning and speculative tribute to Jim Keith; letters from X. Sharks DeSPot
and G. J. Krupey--and a lot more! POB 23715, St. Louis, MO 63121. (Checks
payable to "Kenn Thomas"; sorry, no credit cards. Four issue subscription:
$23)

   * Jim Martin's long awaited book, Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War, has
finally arrived. A more comprehensive and relevant look at Reich, not to
mention the whole sad social fabric of 1950s America he toiled in, has not
been written. Steamshovel editor Thomas, who contributed some research,
still maintains that this book reports upon the smoking gun document that
proves the existence of the infamous secret UFO group MJ-12. That's almost
only a footnote, however, to this detailed study of Reich's world of spy
intrigue, incestuous familial relations, world power politics, law gone
wrong and science gone bad. For more info, go to
http://www.flatlandbooks.com/wrcw.html



   In the letters section of the January 13 issue of USA Today, Chicago
resident Kate Phair argues eloquently that "the First Amendment has not been
violated, as freedom of speech is still alive, in theory. However, the
information we receive is controlled and manipulated so much that our
opinions are biased and unoriginal." Ms. Phair was referring to the AOL/Time
Warner merger and the general trend of more and more media being owned by
fewer and fewer megacorporations. She concluded with a good question: "Have
we come so far in a century, or are we digressing in a circular pattern of
corporate control?"
   A story in the Entertainment issue of that same issue of USA Today
suggests an answer. It reported that CBS digitally altered images in its New
Year's Eve news coverage, replacing an NBC logo evident at Times Square with
its own. A circular pattern of corporate control, indeed.
   The story noted the controversy surrounding the previous alteration of
background in a Cokie Roberts report. (Roberts' father, Hale Boggs, was a
Warren Commission dissenter who died in a mysterious plane crash.) It failed
to mention Dan Rather's advance taping of a "news" report on a US bombing of
Iraq that never happened once the bogus report was intercepted on someone's
satellite dish in Maine. (Never mentioned, in fact, Rather's years of
manipulative reporting on the Kennedy assassination.)



NEW on the Steamshovel Press Website:

   * Feature Article: One of the last interviews with the late Malachi
Martin,
an alleged operative of the Vatican intelligence network in the US

   "Spritual Wickedness in High Places:
Malachi Martin on the End of Religion (As We Know It)"
by Uri Dowbenko

   * From the Editor: The late conspiracy writer Jim Keith is still stirring
up controversy

   "The Spectre of Jim Keith"
by Kenn Thomas

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Re: [CTRL] 'The law that never was'

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Bill Richer wrote:
>
> A: It took a full year. There is not one state -- not one -- that has
> ratified the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution. One of the
> most amazing documents I found was in the national archives in Washington
> D.C. -- a 16-page memorandum written by Ruben J. Clark, then the attorney for
> Secretary of State Philander Chase Knox


-[re-post]-

WHO WAS PHILANDER KNOX?
IS IT CREDIBLE THAT HE WOULD COMMIT FRAUD?


Understanding a crime or a misdeed involves
learning not only what was done and who did
it, but also what the motivation was. With
a clear motive, evidence of the "what" and
"who" becomes much more credible. Allegations
that Secretary of State Philander Knox was
not merely in error, but committed fraud
when he falsely declared the 16th amendment
ratified in 1913, require us to look at who
he was to understand why he would commit
such an act. The following sketch was
prepared by the We The People Foundation
For Constitutional Education and is
condensed from Bill Benson's research
report on the ratification of the 16th
Amendment, "The Law That Never Was,"
Volume II (1985), pages 122-135.
__

Philander Chase Knox was born in 1853 in western
Pennsylvania, son of a bank cashier. While attending
college in Ohio, he became closely acquainted with
William McKinley, then the local district attorney, who
was prosecuting a local tavern owner for selling
alcohol to the college students. Knox took McKinley's
advice and became a lawyer.

McKinley, having chaired the powerful House Ways and
Means Committee in Congress, was elected governor of
Ohio in 1891. Although he owed his election to support
from both business and labor, he quelled the labor
strike called by Eugene V. Debs against the Great
Northern Railroad in 1894 by summoning federal troops.

McKinley won the 1896 presidential race with a great
deal of support from Big Business, e.g., John D.
Rockefeller's Standard Oil contributed $250,000 to the
"front porch" campaign that defeated Bryan and his
populist platform of returning to the constitutionally
mandated monetary system and reform of McKinley's high
tariffs that had allowed domestic manufacturers to
raise their prices to a level that matched the
artificially-induced higher prices of foreign goods,
thus causing a severe depression. Knox helped in this
financial and political effort that was directed by the
wealthy Ohio industrialist Mark Hanna, who was
appointed to a vacant U.S. Senate seat the following
year by Ohio's governor. McKinley had already been
saved from personal financial ruin by help from his old
friend, Philander Knox, who had become wealthy as
counsel to the very wealthy.

Knox came to be regarded as one of the ablest lawyers
in the country, his repute due in no small measure to
his being counsel for Carnegie and Vanderbilt and their
corporate enterprises. He was instrumental in
Carnegie's big victory in a crucial patent case in
which the most important invention for the manufacture
of crude steel was at stake. In 1892, he defended Henry
Frick, Carnegie's steel plant manager, who was being
sued by the steel workers who had been beaten up by
Pinkertons brought in by Frick during the infamous
Homestead strike, a strike that was provoked by two of
Carnegie's presidents, one of whom was also an attorney
for J.P. Morgan. Knox also deflected prosecution and
civil suit against Carnegie in 1894 after it was shown
to Congress that Carnegie had defrauded the Navy with
inferior armor plate for U.S. warships. Morgan himself
had defrauded the U.S. Army in arms sales during the
Civil War. And Knox averted prosecution of Carnegie
after the president of the Morgan-controlled
Pennsylvania Railroad testified that Carnegie had
regularly received illegal kickbacks from the railroad.
Knox's other big client at the time, the Vanderbilt
family, was connected to Carnegie primarily through the
railroad industry.

President McKinley offered Knox the post of U.S.
Attorney General in 1899, but Knox had to decline,
because he was then and for two more years engaged in
arranging the merger of the railroad, oil, coal, iron
and steel interests of Carnegie, J.P. Morgan,
Rockefeller, and other robber barons into the largest
conglomerate in history - U.S. Steel. This immense
corporation encompassed the interests of nearly all the
robber barons in what Knox's new client, J.P. Morgan,
referred to as a "community of interest." One important
component of the conglomerate was Consolidated Iron
Mines in the Mesabi Range of Minnesota, which
Rockefeller had fraudulently swindled from the Merritt
family, who later successfully sued John D. for fraud,
but had to settle for a fraction of the award be

[CTRL] 'Brill's Content' March 2000 issue

[A.C. Szul Jr.]

FYI, at http://www.brillscontent.com/ under 
"Current Issue" & click the link "Letters to the Editor." The hardcopy 
copy, found in the March 2000 issue, was edited. -A
 
So 
What?Give me 
a break! Has Brill's Content resorted to attacking op-ed 
writers?
Your December/January 
2000 Notebook questions the ethics of famous Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan, 
who penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on the GOP involvement in the 
Clinton impeachment ["Working Both 
Sides Of The Street"]. Noonan may have had an existing relationship with 
some of those involved in that sad chapter of our nation's history, but so what 
if she or the paper didn't include specifics?
What Brill's Content 
really ought to have reported in the same space is how some current 
journalists who are ex-employees of Democrat politicos "report" the news—George 
Stephanopoulos, Bill Moyers, and Chris Matthews, just to name a 
few.
At least with the 
Journal's op-eds, its readers know where they're coming from. Today's 
television news viewer may not.
Andy Szul Jr., 
Alexandria, VA

Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
>
> The urban legend is that it is a COMMON occurance
>
> June


Man, you are a real a piece of work!  I think YOU are an urban
legend.


>
> >From: Foxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Just because it is rare does not make it an urban legend.  There's no
> >correlation.
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[CTRL] Europe's Big Melt Underway

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Ah, something does not add up here. I thought heat rises. More BS from the
scientists.
Earth man

Europe's Big Melt Underway
[Original headline: Bad news for the Alps . . . melting permafrost]
Researchers have discovered that Europe's permafrost, the frozen bedrock on
which the Alps rest, is melting.
Underground ice temperatures rose by more than a degree in the '90s,
threatening widespread devastation within the next two decades. Foundations
of cable car stations face collapse; mountain slopes, held together by
frozen soil, are likely to be swept down valleys; and rock faces will
disintegrate.

Already several recent Alpine disasters, including the avalanches that
killed more than 50 people at the Austrian resort of Galtur last year, are
being blamed on the melting of permafrost, scientists say.

"It is now clear that rises in atmospheric temperatures are producing
significant changes in permafrost levels," said geologist Charles Harris of
Cardiff University. "Global warming is changing the nature of weather
systems and this is having disproportionate effects on temperatures
underground."

Atmospheric temperatures round the world rose about 0.2 degrees Celsius last
decade, producing a spate of observations about the effects of warming,
including signs that Europe's glaciers are shrinking.

But now engineers and geologists have discovered a new, alarming effect: air
temperature increases are being magnified fivefold underground. A test bore
hole, dug in Murtel in southern Switzerland, has revealed that frozen
sub-surface soils warmed by 1.2 degrees since 1990.

We are getting earlier falls of snow which provide blankets of insulation
that keep the soil warm," said Harris. "Summers are also warmer and are
heating up the ground more."

To try to predict the worst effects, scientists backed by European Union
funds have launched a program, Permafrost and Climate in Europe (Pace), to
provide a continent-wide survey of threatened permafrost, which is
concentrated in Scandinavia, the Alps, the Pyrenees and the Sierra Nevada in
Spain.

A series of bore holes is being drilled in these areas, and scientists are
developing techniques for predicting the effects of permafrost loss on
slopes and valleys.

A key, and unexpected, instrument in this work will be the centrifuge.

"When you spin things round and round very quickly, you create very powerful
gravitational fields, and when you place objects in these fields the effects
of gravity are speeded up," said another Pace researcher, civil engineer
Michael Davies of Dundee University. "We are now building model valleys, and
will put them in centrifuges to study what happens when soil is warmed up
and the permafrost, which holds the ground together, is destroyed. We will
simulate landslides and avalanches."

The aim is to find out how to spot early signs of the imminent collapse of
buildings and valleys, he said. "Racks and strains, the first evidence that
cable stations and other buildings are under threat, may be easy to spot.
This gives engineers an opportunity to put things right."

On the other hand, the recent wave of avalanches in the Alps suggests it
will be a trickier job to spot valley walls and rock faces that are about to
crumble and disintegrate.

There is no doubt that there is a real danger to human life, thanks to
permafrost warming," said Harris. "We want to minimize the destruction."


[Source originally published: January 16 2000]
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Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Warmonger

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Frankly, I don't trust McCain, someone who's been part of the establishment
for decades and now says he wants to "bring govt back to the people."

Who's he fooling?

The media and Dems _wants_ McCain as the GOP candidate. Why?

Simple. Media and Dem pals are pumping up him and his presidential campaign
because they know Gore can beat McCain but _not_ Gov. Bush. So, knock out
Bush now by pumping up McCain and then simply "expose" all the crap against
GOP candidate McCain and Gore/Dems/media get the White House.

They can't do that to GWB since he's already been tested over and over, ran
tough race in TX and has a proven track record as a conservative Republican.

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> Surely you don't buy this libertarian-fascist screed, do you, A.C. ?
>
> I'm all for McCain bashing, as long as it is directed in the right way.
This
> was the man who broke ranks with the Congressional Republicans to support
> Bill Clinton's defense budget in 1998.
>
> John McCain, Scab !!
>
> Bill R.

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[CTRL] [NA] Iowa Investigation Continues

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..

>From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
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Subject: [NA] Iowa Investigation Continues
Date: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:16 AM

www.networkamerica.org

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin

February 3, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire

Iowa Investigation Continues

For new readers: if you are reading your first message below, it may
seem like “inside baseball”, but it is in fact an investigation being
conducted in a professional manner of the mechanisms being used to
perpetuate unverifiable elections in the USA.

These unverifiable elections make it possible for those FEW companies
providing the software to steal the elections, and therefore to have a
shot at stealing America. Both Ronnie Dugger’s 1988 cover article in New
Yorker Magazine, and Phil O’Halloran’s 1996 November issue of Relevance
magazine devoted to the votefraud issue, provide clear documentation
that only a handful of companies provide the secret software to the
overwhelming number of America’s 3075 counties.

We have tentatively learned that the county totals for the Iowa Caucuses
 were called into two separate locations, one location set up for the
Democrats; one for the Republicans. This was an abrupt change from 1996,
1992, 1988, 1984, and 1980 — in which years the county totals for the
Iowa Caucus was called into and tabulated by Voter News Service, the
highly secretive exit poll arm of the 4 Big TV Networks.

We are waiting for the Des Moines Register editions from the Tuesday,
Wednesday, and Thursday after the January 24, 2000 Iowa Caucuses. We
want to verify what sources the Register is citing for its published
Caucus numbers – remember, in 1996 the Register cited the AP wire (a
sponsor of Voter News Service with the Big TV Networks) as the source of
the numbers.

>From a source inside the Des Moines Register we have been told no source
is cited for this year’s numbers (!). We’ll see if that holds up. Don’t
worry, we’ll continue the investigation and keep you informed.

More will come on New Hampshire also.

Jim Condit Jr.,
Director Citizens for a Fair Vote Count

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Please forward our messages to friends and opinion molders. The year 2000 Presidential 
Campaign offers an opportunity to de-stablize the New World Order Ruling Elite and 
restore honest elections with citizens checks and balances, true Freedom and true Free 
Enterprise in America.

Let fellow citizens, opinion molders, pastors, public officials, and the newsmedia 
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[CTRL] FW: HEALTH ALERT: MSG & ASPARTIC ACID IN INFANT FORMULAS

[Dave]

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HEALTH ALERT:  TRUTHINLABELING WEBSITE: MSG & ASPARTIC ACID IN INFANT
FORMULA;  &  IN BAD TASTE: MSG Symptom Complex - Newly Revised by George R.
Schwartz, MD

Subj:Re: Aspartic Acid AND Glutamic Acid found in infant formula
Date:   2/6/00 12:53:52 AM Eastern Standard Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Betty Martini)
To:  <<>>


http://WWW.truthinlabeling.org
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/in
dex.html   = Home page

INFANT FORMULA CONTAINS HIDDEN MSG - KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUYING!!

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/formulaco
py.htm = MSG Hidden in Infant Formula
(SPREADSHEET OF ANALYSES AT THIS WEB-PAGE)

>From time to time, we are asked if infant formulas contain processed free
glutamic acid (MSG) and processed free aspartic acid – both neurotoxins.

The following are results of analyses (SEE WEB PAGE ABOVE) of five formulas
purchased and analyzed in Canada.   Brands are listed in alphabetical order.
Ingredients of products sold in the United States and other countries may
vary. The
manufacturer of Enfalac sold in Canada uses the product name Enfamil in
the United States.

TABLE 1
Test results in milligrams per 100 milliliters (mL)
  Aspartic
Glutamic
Acid
Acid
Carnation Good Start
.095
.261
Enfalac Iron Fortified
.064
1.327
Enfalac Nutramigen Hypoallergenic
18.717
100.880
Isomil Soy Formula
.132
.084
Similac Lactose Free
.021
.024

TABLE 2 - Test results converted to milligrams per ounce (oz.)
Aspartic
Glutamic
Acid
Acid
Carnation Good Start
.028
.077
Enfalac Iron Fortified
.019
.390
Enfalac Nutramigen Hypoallergenic
5.505
29.671
Isomil Soy Formula
.039
.025
Similac Lactose Free
.006
.007

In a brochure for their Enfalac formula line, Mead Johnson Nutritionals
stated that infant formula requirements are as follows:

1 week old infant -- 6 to10 bottles of 60 to120 mL (2 to 4 oz.) formula

3 month old infant -- 4 to 5 bottles of 180 to 240 mL (6 to 8 oz.) formula

Taking an average of the formula requirements given by Mead Johnson
Nutritionals we find that the average requirements would be:

1 week old infant -- 8 bottles of 90 mL (3 oz.) formula = 720 mL (24 oz.)
formula

3 month old infant -- 4.5 bottles of 210 mL (7 oz.) formula = 945 mL
(31.5 oz.) formula

Therefore, amounts of neurotoxic glutamic acid and neurotoxic aspartic
acid ingested daily by an average infant on each of the analyzed formulas
would be as follows:

TABLE 3 - Grams of aspartic acid and glutamic acid ingested daily by an
average 1
week old infant

Aspartic
Glutamic
Total
Acid
Acid
Carnation Good Start
.000684
.001879
.002563
Enfalac Iron Fortified
.000461
.009554
.010015
Enfalac Nutramigen Hypoallergenic
.134762
.726336
.861098
Isomil Soy Formula
.000950
.000605
.001555
Similac Lactose Free
.000151
.000173
.000324
Figures are based on original test results found in Table 1.

TABLE 4 - Grams of aspartic acid and glutamic acid ingested daily by an
average 3
month old infant
  Aspartic
Glutamic
Total
Acid
Acid
Carnation Good Start
.000898
.002466
.003364
Enfalac Iron Fortified
.000605
.012540
.013145
Enfalac Nutramigen Hypoallergenic
.176876
.953316
1.130192
Isomil Soy Formula
.001247
.000794
.002041
Similac Lactose Free
.000198
.000227
.000425
Figures are based on original test results found in Table 1.

SUMMARY
Ingredients that contain processed free glutamic acid (MSG) and free
aspartic acid -- known neurotoxins -- are used in baby formula. The fact
that neurotoxins are present in baby formula is of particular concern
since the blood brain barrier is not fully developed in infants, allowing
neurotoxins to be more accessible to the brain then is the case in
healthy adults.

The amounts of aspartic acid and glutamic acid found in the formulas
analyzed have been listed separately in the above schedules. However, in
studies using experimental animals, neuroscientists have found that
glutamic acid and aspartic acid load on the same receptors in the brain,
cause identical brain lesions and neuroendocrine disorders, and act in an
additive fashion.

You will note that the level of neurotoxins found in the hypoallergenic
formula was greater than the level of neurotoxins found in the other
formulas. In reviewing the literature on hypoallergenic formulas, we have
found short term studies that concluded that hypoallergenic formulas are
safe because babies tolerated them and gain weight. However, we have not
seen any long term studies on the safety of hypoallergenic formulas. We
are concerned that long term studies might reveal that infants raised on
hypoallergenic formulas, as compared to infants who are breast fed or fed
on non-hypoallergenic formulas, will exhibit more learning disabilities
at school age, and/or more endocrine disorders such as obesity, and
reproductive disorders, later in life. Long term studies on the effects
of hypoallergenic formulas need to be done.

To pu

[CTRL] Giuliani set up?: USDA & EPA TO RECLASSIFY MALATHION AS CARCINOGEN

[Dave]

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Wondering if Giuliani was set up to take some big heat over this ...
wouldn't be too surprising if Clinton & co. were behind an experimental
release/containment exercise.
The spraying seemed to have been "needed" possibly to contain an
experimental biowarfare agent which got loose from "Plum Island" -  U.S.
Department of Agriculture's Plum Island Animal Disease Center.
http://www.washlaw.edu/newyatt/msg00023.html


Dave Hartley
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see also:

http://www.washlaw.edu/newyatt/msg00018.html
http://www.washlaw.edu/newyatt/msg00019.html
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USDA and EPA Reclassify Malathion as Carcinogen
By Robert Lederman
[see USDA letter below]

Things may be quiet in Giuliani's bunker right now but a storm
is approaching that none of the "experts" in the Mayor's Office
of Emergency Management [OEM] are ready to handle.
Perhaps you'll remember how last September Giuliani, OEM
Director Jerome Hauer and NYC Health Commissioner Neal
Cohen stood before the public on a daily basis and assured us
that Malathion, the organophosphate nerve gas they were
repeatedly covering the City with was, "completely safe".

"I ask you not to create any undue or unnecessary alarm or
panic," Giuliani said at a City Hall news conference on
Thursday morning. "There's no point in not spraying, because
there's no harm in spraying. So even if we're overdoing it,
there's no risk to anyone in overdoing it...The more dead
mosquitoes," he added, "the better. I don't think the media
should try to push this out of proportion". NY Times 9/10/99

When activists began distributing scientific information to the
media and the public as soon as the spraying began which
directly challenged the Giuliani administration's claims the
Mayor ridiculed the activists claiming they were neurotics who
just wanted publicity.

"The mayor dismissed complaints from environmental
advocates about the spraying, referring to them as hysterical
"environmental terrorists" who "like to get you angry because
it gets them on television." The spraying is harmless, he
insisted." "More Mosquito War Protests greet new plan for
spraying"-Daily News 9/18/99

When the same activists distributed copies of the Malathion
labels from the product used in New York City to the media
along with copies of the Mayor's Chem-bio Handbook which
described Malathion as a potential military or terrorism-use
weapon, Hauer lied repeatedly claiming that they'd used,
"another Malathion". This was said despite the owner of the
helicopter spraying company hired by Hauer confirming on an
audio tape (also given to the media) that the labels were from
the very canisters of Malathion used in NYC. The pilot also
refuted Hauer and Giuliani's statements that the Malathion was
"very diluted" confirming that it was in fact 96 percent
unadulterated Malathion. The labels stated in no uncertain
terms that the product must never be sprayed on humans.

As recently as January 6, 2000 OEM Director Hauer said in a
public meeting, "I have nothing to hide...I'm very comfortable
with the spraying of Malathion. If we had to do it again, we
would do it the same way," 1/27/2000 Queens Tribune
Emergency Management Director Grilled On Mosquito
Control

For those who need a government agency to point out the
obvious, your moment has arrived. The Environmental
Protection Agency is about to reclassify Malathion as a human
carcinogen. The following is a letter from a USDA (United
States Department of Agriculture) official to Dr. Robert Simon,
a noted toxicologist and anti-Malathion activist, on the new
classification.

Dr. Robert K. Simon
Environmental and Toxicology International
11244 Waples Mill Road, Suite H2
Fairfax, VA 22030

Dear Dr. Simon:

Thank you for your letter of inquiry on the status of the Annual
and Plant Health Inspection Service's revision of the " Fruit Fly
Cooperative Control Program, Draft Environmental Impact
Statement- 1999." Preparation of the final environmental
impact statement (EIS) is on indefinite hold at this time
because of the United States Environmental Protection
Agency's (EPA's) ongoing review of one of the proposed
program pesticides, malathion.

Preliminary information received from the EPA indicates that
the EPA is considering changing the registration status of
malathion because of studies that suggest that it could be a
low-level human carcinogen. Such a change would result in a
change in the risk analysis, would require review of protection
and mitigation measures, would result in the need to inform
and involve the public about the change, and could require the
preparation of a supplemental draft EIS.

I regret the delay and that I cannot be more specific about the
date of the expected revision, but we believe it is in the best
interests of all concerned to wait until EPA's findings are
confirmed and made public before we continue. I am placing
your name on the distribution l

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE EU'S THREAT TOWARDAUSTRIA

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Much better than the lottery, we all win.  I'll put down 10 bucks on any CFR
member and any  appointed official working for an unconstitutionally created
federal entity.

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Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

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Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:

> The urban legend is that it is a COMMON occurance

No. A Urban Legend is a common *story* that gets retold over and over
with no basis in fact.  They are usually FOF stories (a friend of a
friend told me...

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[CTRL] Superheated water

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http://www.sci-ctr.edu.sg/ScienceNet/cat_life/cat_pha01778.html

Recent Questions

I micro-waved one cup of plain water for one minute at 100 degrees
Celsius. After taking it out of the micro-wave oven, I put one tea spoon
of instant coffee powder into the cup. Surprisingly, the water splashed
out of the cup to a height of around 4 cm and scalded my hand. Is there
any substance in the instant coffee powder that leads to such a
'reaction'? It happened only once. I have tried doing so many times but
none has such an effect.

Answer : A portion of the water in your cup was actually heated slightly
above the boiling point. In other words, the water was becoming
superheated. It would normally boil at this temperature. But, because of
the smooth surface of the cup, the boiling is hindered by the lack of
nucleation sites needed to form the bubble. Superheated liquid can boil
explosively if something is added. The addition of some instant coffee
powder sufficed to allow bubble formation.

After keeping the cup still and micro-waving for a long time, turbulence
in the superheated liquid by stirring or by moving the cup could also
provide enhanced nucleation with an explosive rate of steam production.
It could cause the liquid to splash out of the cup. This can be avoided
by leaving any liquid that has been heated in a microwave oven to stand
for at least a minute before touching it or open the door of the oven.
This allows for slight cooling and for the heat to become more evenly
distributed. It is therefore recommended that everyone does this when
heating liquids in a microwave oven, even to make a cup of tea.

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Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

[Foxter]

An urban legend is a story 
or account that many would think is true but which in fact is not 
true.  If the subject event occurs once, whether frequently or not, it 
is a true event; because it is true it cannot be legendary.  

 
The urban legend, therefore, refers 
to whether the thing does happen not that it happens once in awhile or 
frequently.  And if it in fact happens the legend is no more 
fairytale.  
 

 
Main Entry: 
leg·endPronunciation: 'le-j&ndFunction: 
nounEtymology: Middle English legende, from Middle French 
& Medieval Latin; Middle French legende, from Medieval Latin 
legenda, from Latin, feminine of legendus, gerundive of legere 
to gather, select, read; akin to Greek legein to gather, say, 
logos speech, word, reasonDate: 14th century1 a : a 
story coming down from the past; especially : one popularly 
regarded as historical although not verifiable b : a body of such 
stories legend of the frontier> c : a 
popular myth of recent origin d : a person or thing that inspires 
legends e : the subject of a legend legend even in its own time -- William Broyles Jr.>2 a 
: an inscription or title on an object (as a coin) b : CAPTION 2b c : an explanatory list of the 
symbols on a map or chart 

   -Caveat Lector-    -Cui Bono?-The urban 
  legend is that it is a COMMON occuranceJune>From: 
  Foxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>Just 
  because it is rare does not make it an urban legend.  There's 
  no>correlation.

Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

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The urban legend is that it is a COMMON occurance

June

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>Just because it is rare does not make it an urban legend.  There's no
>correlation.

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[CTRL] Week Ending: 5 February 2000 / 29 Shevat 5760

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Week Ending: 5 February 2000 / 29 Shevat 5760

For G-d will save Zion and build the cities of Judah, that they may dwell
there and possess it. And the descendants of His servants will inherit it,
and those who love His name will dwell in it." (Psalm 69.35-36)

GOVERNMENT BEGINS ABANDONMENT OF YESHA

FIVE COMMUNITIES TO BE ISOLATED: As it stands now, the next
withdrawal will  for the first time in the history of the State of Israel
leave
an Israeli town totally surrounded by non-Israeli controlled territory.
According to Maj.-Gen. Shlomo Yanai, OC IDF Planning, five Jewish
communities will find themselves isolated in areas under total
Palestinian Authority (PA/PLO) sovereignty (areas "A"). They are Ganim
in Samaria, Beit Haggai, Otniel, Pnei Haver, and Neguhot, in the
Southern Hebron Hills area. Around Beit Haggai and Otniel, only
Highway 60  the access road to the two towns  will continue to be
Israeli-controlled. The government on Wednesday approved the next
land withdrawal which is to include 6.1 percent of areas under Israeli
control throughout Yesha (Judea and Samaria). The vote passed by a 6-
2 vote with 1 abstention. The withdrawal is to be implemented no later
than 10 February, which would then leave the PA/PLO with control over
42.9 percent of Judea and Samaria (areas "A" & "B") with total control
(security and civil matters - area "A") over 18.2 percent. The 6.1 percent
land withdrawal represents 335 square kilometers (134 square miles) of
land.

SECURITY AND MEDICAL ASSISTANCE CUT-OFF: The IDF (Israel
Defense Force) has ceased providing protection to five communities in
the Jordan Valley. The decision was made as part of the new policy to
cut off all such protection in Judea and Samaria by the end of the year
2000. The towns affected are Kibbutz Gilgal, Rotem, Patzael, Kfar
Mecholah, and Shadmot Mecholah  the last of which is only 300 meters
(300 yards) away from the Jordanian border. ARUTZ-7 correspondent
Haggai Huberman reports that only last week, there were three cases of
illegal penetrations from Jordan to Israel.

Meanwhile, drastic Defense Ministry cutbacks on emergency medical
aid for citizens in Yesha went into effect Monday night at 11:00 pm. Ten
Magen David Adom ambulances stationed in Yesha were withdrawn,
and some 35 Magen David Adom medics in the area have been
reassigned or fired.

JERUSALEM NEXT? Prime Minister Barak continues to exert heavy
pressures on leaders of Agudat Yisrael to refrain from launching a public
protest against the government's intention to transfer the Jerusalem
suburb of Abu Dis to the PA/PLO. This week, Barak asked Agudat
Yisrael Honorary President Rabbi Menachem Porush to call off a
massive pro-Jerusalem rally slated for the near future. Along with Yesha
leaders, Rabbi Porush participated in a joint tour of Jerusalem Tuesday.
He was accompanied by MKs Nissim Z'ev, Shmuel Halpert (United
Torah Judaism) and Yigal Bibi (National Religious Party). Porush told
ARUTZ-7 last week that the demonstration will unite all Israelis,
religious and secular alike, who hold dear the verse, "If I forget thee
Jerusalem, may my right hand lose its cunning."

In another story, a top Israeli government official suggested Sunday that
Jerusalem could be "shared" with the Palestinians. Deputy Defense
Minister Ephraim Sneh, who often speaks for Prime Minister Ehud
Barak, said Jerusalem's municipal boundaries could be expanded to
accommodate 'Palestinian aspirations' for a presence in the city. Asked
where he would expand the borders, Sneh said eastward. Michael
Eitan, a Likud legislator, appeared on the same interview program as
Sneh. Even he was willing to concede the suburbs of Jerusalem as a
Palestinian capital  an on-the-record first for the Likud.

FIGHTING ESCALATES IN THE NORTH: Three IDF soldiers were killed
Monday in Lebanon by a Hizb'Allah-launched rocket on the eastern front
of the Security Zone. They are Maj. Tidhar Temelhoff from Netanya, First
Sgt. Leor Niv from Tel Aviv and Tsachi Malka from Metulla, KOL
YISRAEL reported. Four soldiers were wounded, one critically, in the
same attack. Col. Akel Hashem, the Deputy Commander of the
Southern Lebanese Army (SLA), was killed by a Hizb'Allah-planted
roadside explosive Sunday outside his house in southern Lebanon. The
killing of Col. Hashem was filmed and shown on Hizb'Allah TV in Beirut
Sunday night.

More than a dozen youngsters and their parents escaped death or
serious injury by a few minutes when an anti-aircraft shell fired by
terrorists in south Lebanon exploded next to a kindergarten in
Margaliyot in the Galilee panhandle early Sunday morning. There were
no casualties, although playground equipment, the kindergarten
building, and nearby moshav offices were damaged by the blast. The
community has a population of just over 400 and is situated within a few
dozen mete

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SENATORIAL OBSTRUCTION: Congressional republicans must be pretty dense. One
would think that after seven years of dealing with Bill Clinton -- seven
years which included an impeachment for lying under oath -- they would have
learned the simple lesson that Bill Clinton cannot be trusted. Yet they
continue to make deals with him, and continue to be shocked and surprised
when he blithely breaks those deals. But at least now, Senate republicans
plan to do something about the latest broken promise. At least, they say they
plan to do something about it. But true to form, we can probably expect those
Senate republicans to abandon their plan and back down as soon as Senate
democrats begin their duplicitous and mean-spirited attacks, and right after
the first Washington Post editorial labels them as obstructionists. And once
again we will witness republicans start to stand up for a principle, do so
just long enough to incur maximum damage in the public's perception, and then
cave in without having accomplished anything.

What is the latest fracas all about? It is about confirmation of Clinton's
nominees to federal judgeships. Presidential appointees to certain jobs
require confirmation by the Senate. That confirmation process can, however,
be delayed when an appointment is made during a time when the Senate is in
recess. By the plain language of the Constitution, such recess appointments
are supposed to be temporary: "The President shall have Power to fill up all
Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting
Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session." (U.S.
Constitution, Article II, Section 2). During the course of his
administration, Clinton has developed a practice of using this recess
appointment power to circumvent the confirmation process entirely. Bill Lan
Lee, for example, was nominated by Clinton in 1997 to head the Justice
Department's Civil Rights Division. Lee's appointment was not acted on by the
Senate, which expressed their intention not to confirm him because his stand
on affirmative action was unacceptable. Then the Senate adjourned, warning
Clinton not to make a recess appointment of Lee, and warning that if he did
so, relations between the White House and the Senate would be so severely
damaged that Lee would be unable to carry out his duties. On December 17,
1997, Clinton appointed Lee to that post in an "acting" capacity anyway. To
enforce the Constitutional restriction on recess appointments, in 1868 the
Congress enacted the Vacancies Act, which provides that recess appointments
can last no longer than 120 days. In 1998, even before Lee's 120 days had
expired, Senate democrat Robert Byrd warned that Lee's continuance in office
past that deadline would be in "defiance of the plain language of the
Vacancies Act." Despite all that, and with hardly a peep from the Senate, Lee
continues to serve in his post today, almost two years beyond the time that
his recess appointment should, by law, have expired. And despite the Senate's
warning, Lee has been carrying out his duties quite effectively.

Because of Clinton's practice, before going on their recent recess the Senate
made an agreement with Clinton that he would submit a list of nominees he
intended to appoint during the recess, and that he would notify the Senate of
that intent. The list he submitted did not include the name of Sarah Fox to
the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), nor of Stuart Weisberg to the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) Review Commission.
Clinton went ahead and appointed those two individuals to their respective
posts anyway. Now the Senate thinks they have been stiffed. Again. Senator
James Inhofe, along with 18 other senators, has vowed to put a hold on all of
Clinton's judicial nominees for the remainder of Clinton's term in office,
and not to allow any of them to come up for confirmation.

The agreement reached between Clinton and the Senate was identical to the
1985 agreement between President Reagan and Senator Robert Byrd, which Byrd
described as follows: "In the future, prior to any recess breaks, the White
House would inform the majority leader and (the minority leader) of any
recess appointment which might be contemplated during such recess. They would
do so in advance sufficiently to allow the leadership on both sides to
perhaps take action to fill whatever vacancies that might be imperative
during such a break." In a June 15, 1999 letter to Majority Leader Trent
Lott, Clinton stated ".my Administration has made it a practice to notify
Senate lenders in advance of our intentions in this regard [on the matter of
recess appointments], and this precedent will continue to be observed. I
share your opinion that the understanding reached in 1985 between President
Re

Re: [CTRL] [SonsofLiberty] WND's Joe Farah nails Mark Pitcavage. Go, Joe!

[Colleen Jones]

Be sure to spread this far and wide.A Watch Dog?   Bet he took down
SNET and caused an overload.  And hey, I included his little friend and
sent him a line too...God Bless Osama bin Laden and Eric
Rudolph.Allah Be With You Always and Protect You from the real
"boogey man"..Won't give you his name, but his initials are
The Lard Ass.

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**




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 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/2127_xcbtl_renos_2_mi.shtml
">Reno's $2 million 'private' spy
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/2127_xcbtl_renos_2_mi.shtml

Reno's $2 million
'private' spy

---
Your federal government funded a paranoid, conspiracy-minded activist to the
tune of $2 million last year to, among other things, spy on little old me.
This self-proclaimed "militia watchdog" is Mark Pitcavage of Columbus, Ohio.
He's a one-man clearinghouse whose work on behalf of Janet Reno's Justice
Department includes trashing those investigating the Waco massacre. He boasts
on his website of being research director for the State and Local
Anti-Terrorism Training program, funded through the Justice Department's
Bureau of Justice Assistance through the Institute for Intergovernmental
Research.

A recent e-mail from Pitcavage sent in response to an inquiry about the
ownership of WorldNetDaily illustrates that this quasi-government snoop
dispenses more opinion and innuendo than facts.

"I don't know who 'owns' them (WorldNetDaily)," he writes, "but they do have
a clear agenda. They are an ultraconservative conspiracy-oriented (and,
needless to say, anti-government) 'news agency.' I put that last in quotes
because they attempt to make themselves seem like a respectable news agency,
but their stories are generally the same old conspiracy theories and similar
dead horses (land grabs, U.N. power, military urban exercises, Bill Clinton
is evil, etc.) that have been trotted out before. The difference is money,
which allows them to have paid, full-time journalists, and of course the
Internet, which gives them a veneer of respectability."
Mark Pitcavage, self-proclaimed "militia watchdog"

There's more, but let's just dissect this distortion from a man who calls
himself a "historian."

* On our "clear agenda": WorldNetDaily has never disguised its agenda. It is
to recapture a journalistic principle once widely accepted in America - that
the principle role of a free press in a free society is to serve as a
watchdog on government. That's it. Simple, straightforward and wholly in line
with what reporters and editors routinely accepted as their mission for 200
years in America.

* On the term "ultra-conservative": I'm the editor and founder of
WorldNetDaily. I don't belong to any political movement or party. I have
publicly disavowed and rejected the label "conservative." I have repeatedly
warned that the biggest political threat facing America today is fascism. I
have brought together into the WorldNetDaily fold a broad range of political
commentators and analysts and have been pilloried for doing so by many
conservatives.

* On the term "conspiracy-oriented": I find it interesting that the targets
of WorldNetDaily's investigative reports often resort to using this
characterization as their sole line of defense. They don't pick apart our
reporting. They don't cite inaccuracies. They don't deal in specifics.
Instead, they use broad strokes to discredit the one news agency in the world
that uses responsible journalistic techniques to carry out the most
traditional, honorable and noble work being done in our profession today.
That's what Pitcavage does. And he learned the trick from his masters in this
administration - Hillary Clinton to name names.

* On our money: We made it the old-fashioned way. We earned it - in the
marketplace of ideas as a content provider in a revolutionary new medium
known as the Internet. We don't have the government funding us. Got a problem
with that, pal? Jealous?

Pitcavage continues: "WorldNet has, however, proven invaluable for the
'patriot' movement, as it has provided a news source for all sorts of patriot
newsletters and magazines to glom material from; as a result, its stories are
very widely distributed and something that WorldNet puts out can run through
the entire patriot community in really no time at all. Sometimes they even
get picked up by what one would normally consider

[CTRL] FW: BURMA The Agency and "Knights of ye olde Malta variety"?

[Dave]

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 -Cui Bono?-

forwarded from Roger - there is mention of USAID (CIA front) as well as
other company involvement in the triangle area.

My reply to Roger:
Oh, goodness...  it's that Knights of Malta feller again...
Absolutely certainly this fella would have the resources to do as he offers.
He also is mentioning specifically USAID, a known CIA proprietary/front.
It appears that he is requesting aid in obtaining a $2million tax deduction
in return for donating used (obsolete?) medical equipment, to be used, one
would imagine, in a typically Papal/western Xian cultural Imperialist manner
(origins of the U.S., smallpox infested blankets as presents to "Indians"
[Native Americans] comes immediately to mind).
Far, FAR better that these refugees be treated by AMURT or some other Org.
which would provide holistic healthcare, and PERHAPS be more respectful of
Karenni culture.
Suggest this Good Knight donate said goods without arranging transport,
liquidate goods for cash, apply cash toward refugee's needs.
Further suggest someone contact AMURT
http://www.amurt.net/
&
"Physicians without Borders" & it's subsidiary (my personal favorite)  --
Homeopaths Sans Frontieres / Homeopaths without Borders:
Dutch section: Dr. Martien Brands E-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
California, US: Nancy Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Canada:   Heather Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Forwarding Kosovo report from Homeopaths Without Borders in following
email..

kind regards,

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


-Original Message-
From: Roger Bunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 6:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BURMA The Agency and "Knights of ye olde Malta variety"?


   A Knights Research.
A selected posting. Embargoed info, not for publication.
Media : Please do not contact those involved.

>>One thing I noticed, if Dana Rohrabacher is involved you are up
to your but in the CIA. As a youngster making his bones he
was at the Ambassador Hotel the night Bobby Kennedy was
assassinated. It's in the LAPD records of that night and Dana
was involved with peculiar activities which I will not describe here.

>I will read your other message when I have time.
>
>M...

-
-Original Message-
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:56 PM
Subject: Karenni report


ROHRABACHER CODEL TO ASIA
   EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:  BURMESE KARENNI REFUGEES


The delegation visited camps for the Karenni tribal refugees
from Burma in Mae Hong Son Province of Thailand, located in
the Golden Triangle area of the mountainous Thai-Burma border
on January 15-16, 2000.  Congressman Rohrabacher, Al Santoli
and Jeff Baxter were accompanied by US State Department
Regional Refugee Officer Jeff Rock, Karenni Foreign Minister
Abel Tweed, International Rescue Committee Dr. Robin Nandy
and local Thai officials.

In Burma, the SLORC regime continues to persecuting and
forcibly relocating Karenni villagers from Karenni State. Some
Karennis forced to be porters and human mine detectors in
SLORC army. Others are forced to join "militia" to be
SLORC shock troops or cannon fodder against brother
Karennis.  There is a free fire zone by SLORC on Burma
side Salawin River near mountainous border. New arrivals
came during the dry season - December through May.
The largely Christian Karennis do not have a record of
any sort of drug trafficking and were allies of the US
during World War II.

Thailand has been generous in permitting the Karennis
to build mountainside village-type camps for temporary
asylum.  The situation in Burma remains extremely
hazardous for the Karennis.  In order to persuade the
Thai government to sustain asylum, the US Congress
should continue to appropriate earmarked funds to support
the camps. In addition, to create good will among
the Thais, US NGOs can provide support and materials
to assist local Thai villagers.

CAMPS:
Currently more than 16,750 Karennis living in four camps
in Mae Hong Son. Many others live unregistered along
border outside of camps.  During 1999, some 2,000 new
Karenni refugees entered camps in Mae Hong Song area.
An estimated 18,000 unregistered Karennis live outside
of the camps.  An additional 19,000 Karen [a separate tribe]
refugees live in two camps in Mae Hong Son.  Total registered
Burmese tribal refugees in Thai camps: 116,000. These
include: 16,630 Karennis; 88,795 Karens; and 10,622 Mons.

MEDICAL NEEDS:
In the Karenni camps, the International Rescue Committee
and the Jesuit relief Service provide medical care.  The IRC
is training Karennis to be medical assistants in camp clinics.
USAID provides some funding for camps, as does the
UNHCR.  Additional funding comes from the relief agencies
and the Thai government.

Medicines and Medical Texts:  The entry camp for
Karennis at Ban Noi Soi can always use donated medicines.
The IRC doctors and Karenni leaders said that there is a
need for medical 

[CTRL] Fw: [BCPolitics] Confederate Flag...Symbol of LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

[Franklin Wayne Poley]

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-Original Message-
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STEVE LANFORD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; The Senator
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 4:11 PM
Subject: [BCPolitics] Confederate Flag.


>From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Dear Rep. Lanford: I believe the 'balkanization' of Canada/USA is imminent
>and I will forward some information on the Blackfoot Nation to support my
>assertion. It looks like there is a news blackout to keep the Blackfoot
>Declaration of Independence from public attention. Thus the Confederate
Flag
>may fly again over a FULLY SOVEREIGN Nation vs. one under the tyranny of
the
>regime of child-murdering, sodomite-loving Christ haters  which rules
>Washington...  the scourge of the human race.
>FWP.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: STEVE LANFORD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 10:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Letters To Leaders
>
>
>>Let it fly.  My philosophy is Heritage not Hatred.You may expect to
see
>me analize each situation and listen to all beliefs and ideas;  but never
>expect to see me cave in to ultimatums or boycott threats. If the boycott
is
>removed then I may consider relocation of the flag.
>>Thank you for your concern.
>>Sincerely,
>>Steve Lanford
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] RUSSIA SELLS GUNS TO ITS CITIZENS THAT ARE ILLEGAL IN THE U.S.

[Franklin Wayne Poley]

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To win without fighting is best
-Fang Wang (not Sun Tsu)

Also from Fang Wang:

To make money without working is best

Also from Fang Wang:

What...me worry?

It is all a question of yin and yang; balance, grasshopper. Plus a little of
the Wan Hoo School of Aerospace.

FW

-Original Message-
From: Colleen Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] RUSSIA SELLS GUNS TO ITS CITIZENS THAT
ARE ILLEGAL IN THE U.S.


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 -Cui Bono?-

Franklin W Poly, PhD
CIA (Canadian Intelligence Agency)


Hi Fang Wang..Stop the world, and lets baill out.but then,
psychological key run or fight.maybe time to stop running and time
to fightfor big game afoot.

I reorganized my Mob.we once were over 1,000 strong..maybe I run
for Sheriff and deputize them all if I can find them.and then watch
our dust - famous for our dirty tricks..

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**

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[CTRL] GOP News & Views - February 6, 2000

[Bill Richer]

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**
Clinton Countdown

Today is February 6, 2000.  There are only 349 days remaining in the Clinton
presidency.

**
Maybe He’ll Get Coal in His Stocking

“Al Gore seems to be like those kids who believe everything their parents
write about them in the Christmas letter."

- NBC anchor Tom Brokaw, “Meet the Press,” 1/30/00

***
Cruising to Defeat

“Mr. Bush, in other words, has had it pretty easy. So his crushing defeat to
Senator John McCain in the New Hampshire primary, after what many Republicans
call a halfhearted campaign there, has led many political observers and
Republican officials to wonder how much they really know about the level of
determination, energy and humility that Mr. Bush can bring to this quest.
Can he reach down into his gut and find the passion, inspiration and
invention that a pivotal juncture like this one requires? Can he regroup,
retool, hone a message that apparently did not resonate and find a tone that
is more commanding, and less merrily lackadaisical, than the one he has used
so far?

"... In the days leading up to the (New Hampshire) contest, Mr. Bush clung to
a confidence about the outcome that proved entirely unwarranted, and he
followed a schedule that was sometimes curiously undemanding.  He took midday
breaks. He played in the snow for television cameras. And he gave the
impression of being tired and homesick.  ‘They mailed in the campaign,’
marveled a Republican strategist in Washington. ‘They did an endorsement a
day, and they went sledding.’

"... And even in the wake of New Hampshire, he continued the parade of
endorsements that played directly into Mr. McCain's claim that what was
happening in the Republican primary was a coronation, not an election. On
Wednesday, in Greenville, S.C., Mr. Bush trotted out former Vice President
Dan Quayle. The gesture left some political analysts scratching their heads.”

- New York Times, 2/5/00


*
McCain Strikes Internet Gold

“Victory in the New Hampshire republican primary has brought a torrent of
online donations for John McCain. The campaign website is averaging $18,000
per hour in the two days following the announcement of his victory, and the
rising tide of donations has not yet slowed. Since the online floodgates
opened on Tuesday evening, the McCain campaign has collected over $1,275,000
in online contributions.  The sudden surge in online fundraising represents a
turning point in the presidential campaign. Bill Bradley, the online
fundraising leader in 1999, took several months to reach the $1 million mark.
Now, the online focus has shifted to John McCain, whose campaign needed only
two days to collect $1 million online.”

- The Weekly Politicker, 2/4/00

***
What Republican Are (Supposed To Be) For

“Americans love tax cuts - they just don’t want to feel guilty about it.
Show the American people why tax cuts are not only to their benefit but also
to the country’s benefit and I’ll show you a winning message that people
care about.  Republicans are supposed to cut taxes and shrink government -
that's what people elect them for.  If they don't cut taxes, why have them in
office.  If we need to raise taxes we can always elect liberals to do that -
that's what they are for.”

- Rick Tyler, Max Tax News, 2/4/00

***
Hitting Below the Belt in Mississippi

A couple days ago we told you about a ridiculous proposal in Mississippi by
Republican state Sen. Tom King which would make it a crime for a man who is
sexually aroused - even though fully clothed - to appear in public.  This
ludicrous measure includes a jail sentence of up to one year and a $2,000
fine.  GOP News & Views reader Art Downs has some (tongue-in-cheek) questions
about the proposal:  “In the event of conviction, would the one year be
served as hard time, or would the convict be remanded to a country club-type
penal institution? Is such a stiff penalty needed?  What sort of evidence
would stand up in court? Might most accused of this crime hope for a hung
jury?”  Art, you “raise” some good points.

*
Anti-Gay Telegram Would Be Cheaper

“A petition designed to head off any effort to legalize gay marriage in
Nevada was filed early last month in Carson City. ... Should other states
legalize gay marriage -- as is already threatened in Vermont -- Nevada might
have to recognize such unions, warns sponsor Richard Ziser, chairman of the
Coalition for the Protection of Marriage in Nevada. Furthermore, Mr. Ziser
proclaims, ‘We need to send a clear and positive message to Neva

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] RUSSIA SELLS GUNS TO ITS CITIZENS THAT ARE ILLEGAL IN THE U.S.

[Colleen Jones]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

Franklin W Poly, PhD
CIA (Canadian Intelligence Agency)


Hi Fang Wang..Stop the world, and lets baill out.but then,
psychological key run or fight.maybe time to stop running and time
to fightfor big game afoot.

I reorganized my Mob.we once were over 1,000 strong..maybe I run
for Sheriff and deputize them all if I can find them.and then watch
our dust - famous for our dirty tricks..

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**

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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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[CTRL] 'The law that never was'

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'The law that never was'

Geoff Metcalf's interview answers
question, 'Is 16th Amendment legal?'

---
By Geoff Metcalf
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

A criminal investigator for the Illinois Department of Revenue for
approximately 10 years, William J. Benson of South Holland, Illinois has been
at the vanguard of debate and controversy surround the 16th Amendment for
almost two decades. In 1984 he embarked upon a year-long project to examine
the process of the ratification of the 16th Amendment and to determine
whether or not it had been lawfully adopted as part of the U.S. Constitution.
The culmination of Benson's work is the book, "The Law That Never Was."
Bill Benson, author of "The Law That Never Was"
Question: You have been engaged in this 16th amendment battle for almost 20
years. How did it start?

Answer: I was a former investigator for the Illinois Department of Revenue. I
discovered a great deal of corruption within that department and for that the
Director fired me. I told him if he fired me, I would sue him for violation
of First Amendment rights. Six and half years later we were in court. We had
a jury of six; it was a civil trial. They awarded me $353,000 for violation
of First Amendment rights.

I began working with my attorney, Andy Spiegal. We had a willful failure to
file case in Indiana. Red Beckman had some documentation that showed there
was some serious problem with the 16th Amendment. He got the documentation
from a man named Dean Hurst, from Cheyenne, Wyoming. I purchased that
documentation and made every attempt to have Andy get it before the court,
and the Judge said no.

The judge gave us three real good reasons why he did that: The documentation
is not notarized, it is not certified, and you do not have a witness to
testify to.

That evening I said, "Okay, the judge has given us our marching orders. The
only thing we have to do is go to all 48 states and get the documentation" to
see if the documents have any validity. The attorney said, "Bill, you're
crazy, you can't do that." I said, "Sure you can."

Q: How long did it take to do that?

A: It took a full year. There is not one state -- not one -- that has
ratified the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution. One of the
most amazing documents I found was in the national archives in Washington
D.C. -- a 16-page memorandum written by Ruben J. Clark, then the attorney for
Secretary of State Philander Chase Knox, on February 15, 1913. What he says
is that in the certified copies of the amendment passed by the legislatures
of the several states ratifying the 16th Amendment, it appears that only four
of those resolutions -- Arizona, North Dakota, Tennessee and New Mexico --
have quoted absolutely accurately and correctly what was proposed by
Congress. The other 33 resolutions contain either errors of capitalization,
spelling or wording. ...

Q: So what's the big deal? Why are errors of capitalization, spelling or
wording so significant?

A: On page 15 of the 16-page memorandum, the attorney says, "further under
the Constitution, a Legislature is prohibited from altering 'in any way' the
resolution proposed by Congress." The right of the Legislature is merely to
approve or disapprove the amendment. The last page is also interesting
because it says the department has not received the copy of the resolution
passed by the state of Minnesota, but the secretary of the governor of the
state has officially notified the department that legislators of that state
have ratified the proposed 16th amendment.

Q: Here's the obvious question that comes up all the time. Say it was a
bureaucratic oversight, a procedural glitch or something. Why are we still
saddled with this thing? The reality check is, if you don't comply you end up
in a whole world of hurt, as you know from personal experience.

A: Oh, there isn't any question about it. And that is why I continue to defy
the federal government. That is why, when we were in Washington (at the
National Press Club) I said, "I have waited 15 years to get behind these
microphones, and I challenge the United States, I challenge the Justice
Department, to come and get me. Take me, and leave these people alone." Let's
get the 16th Amendment argument on the table once and for all before a jury
and let them decide.

Q: Why don't they just drag you into court and resolve the controversy once
and for all?

A: I wish they would. This has been going on now for 18 years. They cannot
win with the 16th Amendment argument.

Q: Bill, at this event you guys had in Washington D.C. at the National Press
Club in July, it seemed like a collection of former Geoff Metcalf guests,
including Joe Bannister.

Joe Bannister is a former IRS agent -- a badge-carrying, gun-carrying agent
who after listening to my radio program wi

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 TESTING THE FAITH
Arizona makes secession preparations
State resolution creates 'insurance policy' against martial law

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By Julie Foster
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

An Arizona state legislative committee has approved a resolution calling for
the dissolution of the federal government in the event that it abolishes the
U.S. Constitution, declares martial law or confiscates firearms -- scenarios
some say are not unrealistic. Critics of the resolution, however, call the
measure a "total waste of time."
Karen Johnson, Arizona state representative
Rep. Karen Johnson, a Mesa Republican and chair of the House Committee on
Federal Mandates and States' Rights, authored the resolution which the
committee approved 3-2. Only the committee's vice-chair, Republican Rep. Gail
Griffin, abstained from voting.

Specifically, House Concurrent Resolution 2034 outlines the origin of the
United States, emphasizing the sovereignty of the states and their
constitutional right to "establish a new federal government for themselves by
following the precedent established by Article VII, Constitution of the
United States, in which nine of the existing thirteen states dissolved the
existing Union under the Articles of Confederation and automatically
superceded the Articles."

It also articulates constitutional violations committed by the federal
government as justification for the measure, saying "... the fifty current
principals, or signatories, to the [Constitution] have done well in honoring
and obeying it, yet the federal agent has, for decades, violated it in both
word and spirit. The many violations of the Constitution of the United States
by the federal government include disposing of federal property without the
approval of Congress, usurping jurisdiction from the states in such matters
as abortion and firearms rights and seeking control of public lands within
state borders," says the resolution.

By adopting HRC 2034, Arizona states its intention to dissolve the current
federal government with the approval of 34 other states and, in essence,
start over. Participating states would re-ratify and re-establish the present
Constitution "as the charter for the formation of a new federal government,
to be followed by the election of a new Congress and President and the
reorganization of a new judiciary," in keeping with the original intent of
the "founding fathers." Individual members of the military will return to
their respective states and report to the governor until a new president is
elected.

In addition, each state will assume a prorated portion of the national debt
and will own all land within its borders. After the new government is formed,
the remaining 15 states will be permitted to join the revised union upon
application, as was the case with the original union.

A three-year veteran to the Arizona Legislature, Johnson told the Sierra
Times the resolution is "insurance policy."

"If the federal government declares martial law or attempts to confiscate
guns, the states shouldn't have to put up with that," she said.

Joseph Stumph, well-known author and historian, testified in favor of the
resolution at the hearing.

"We're proposing that if things get as bad as they could get, that these
states won't allow the federal government to put us into a one-world
government," said Stumph, who is publishing a similar proposal in his home
state of Utah. "I don't expect we'll get 35 states to sign on. The American
people are not educated enough on this yet," he added.

The resolution was introduced Jan. 26, and now needs to be approved by the
Arizona House. Should HRC 2034 successfully complete the legislative process,
it will appear on the November ballot for voter approval. But one legislator
does not think the measure will be taken seriously.

Rep. Bill Brotherton, a Democrat member of Johnson's committee, called
efforts to promote the bill a "total waste of time."

"Obviously ... one of the more important issues we have is mental health in
this state," Brotherton said mockingly. "I wonder if we are going to have a
bill on the grassy knoll next to decide who shot Kennedy."

Johnson said she was asked by several Maricopa County residents to look into
preventing the federal government from asserting power not authorized by the
federal and state Constitutions. To Johnson, the resolution is a watered
down, limited version of the "Ultimatum Resolution," written and promoted by
Stump.

Johnson said HRC 2034 was introduced in response to recent actions by the
Clinton administration regarding the Grand Canyon. On a recent trip to the
landmark, President Clinton declared three new national monuments,
threatening the property and livelihood of ra

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 http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates/lat_trie000205.htm">FBI
Details Democratic Fund-Raising Abuses
 http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates/lat_trie000205.htm

 FBI Details Democratic Fund-Raising Abuses
  Probe: A 74-page report recounts numerous election-law irregularities by
businessman Charlie Trie.


 By WILLIAM C. REMPEL and ALAN C. MILLER, Times Staff Writers

 A letter, shown in the background, seeking the president's help identifying
a mystery guest at the White House, was sent via Nicole Seligman, one of
Clinton's personal attorneys. Democratic fund-raiser Charlie Trie is pictured
in the foreground.
 latimes.com composite

  WASHINGTON--Newly obtained FBI documents show that Democratic
fund-raiser Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie smuggled a wealthy Taiwan businessman
using a false identity into the White House to meet President Clinton.
  The incident is among numerous revelations in a confidential summary of
Trie's statements to federal investigators that are certain to reverberate
during an increasingly contentious election-year debate over campaign finance
abuses.
  The bizarre episode, regarded as a serious breach of presidential
security by federal officials, occurred at a White House holiday party Dec.
13, 1996--days before Trie fled the United States to avoid authorities
investigating fund-raising improprieties.
  Trie, a former Arkansas restaurateur and friend of Clinton, was
interviewed extensively by FBI agents after he pleaded guilty in May to
election-law violations and agreed to cooperate with investigators. He also
named new sources of secret foreign funds that were funneled into the last
presidential campaign.
  A 74-page FBI report obtained by The Times offers the first detailed
account of illicit foreign fund-raising by Trie, one of the most notorious
financial supporters of Clinton's 1996 reelection effort.
  Trie, for example, revealed for the first time the role of Tomy Winata,
a Jakarta billionaire with financial ties to the Indonesian army and an aide
to the chief of Chinese military intelligence. Trie said Winata sent him
$200,000 in travelers checks to "help out" with donations, a portion of which
Trie used to make illegal contributions to the Democratic National Committee
and reimburse donors to the Clinton legal defense fund.
  Federal law prohibits campaign contributions from foreign sources as
well as hiding the true identity of donors.
  Trie's account also could further embarrass Vice President Al Gore by
shedding new light on a particularly damaging event from the Democratic
front-runner's past. Trie told the FBI that he first suggested either Clinton
or Gore visit the Hsi Lai Temple in Southern California, specifically to
raise political funds.
  Trie called Democratic fund-raiser John Huang with the proposal, he
said, adding that they shared an understanding with "Asians in general that
there was a lot of money" at the temple.
  Gore, surrounded by saffron-robed nuns and monks, attended a luncheon
at the Hacienda Heights temple that raised $140,000 for the Democratic
National Committee--a visit that came to epitomize the 1996 fund-raising
scandal. The vice president later denied that he knew the event was a
fund-raiser.
  Both Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the Republican winner in last week's
New Hampshire primary, and former New Jersey Sen. Bill Bradley, Gore's
Democratic rival, have hammered the vice president for his role in 1996
fund-raising excesses. 

 

  http://www.ardemgaz.com/search%5Fweek/sat/ark/a1xtucker5.html">Scan
dal ties turn up at Tucker's new job
 http://www.ardemgaz.com/search%5Fweek/sat/ark/a1xtucker5.html

 Scandal ties turn up at Tucker's new job

 NOEL E. OMAN
 ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

 Jim Guy Tucker may be a half a world away these days, but it's never far
enough from Whitewater.
 The former Arkansas governor is in Jakarta, Indonesia, to help run a
cable TV company -- a not-unlikely role since he and his wife, Betty, have
nearly 20 years of experience in the business.
 The cable company, however, is controlled by the family of James Riady,
the Indonesian businessman, friend of President Clinton's and prominent
figure in some of the scandals that have dogged the president.
 Riady has been linked to a fund-raising scandal concerning foreign
donations to Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign. In addition, his family's
financial conglomerate, the Lippo Group, paid longtime Clinton friend Webb
Hubbell -- a former Little Rock lawyer and associate U.S. attorney general --
a $100,000 consulting fee while Hubbell was under criminal investigation.
 Riady's family has supported Clinton's campaigns dating to his years as
Arkansas governor, when Lippo held an interest in the former Worthen Bank in
Little Rock. When 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] RUSSIA SELLS GUNS TO ITS CITIZENS THAT ARE ILLEGAL IN THE U.S.

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-Original Message-
From: Colleen Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] RUSSIA SELLS GUNS TO ITS CITIZENS THAT ARE
ILLEGAL IN THE U.S.


And remember too while they try to disarm the USA Clinton has given
communists in China and Zionists in Israel neutron bombs, airplanes,
missiles, protective devices from bombs, gas masks which hey were not
allowed to wear in Seattleetc etc etc.but they want to disarm
America, Ireland, and look at Arabs.hey a handful of people are
terrorizing the world.

You forgot the Canucks. This is a "Club Med For Terrorists" according to
your Congressional Committee. But just wait until we use CON-Federation to
throw off the shackles of US Federalism. How about a N Am-wide Civil War, NO
HOLDS BARRED? It will play out well on CNN. Who will win? The Shit-pushers
or the Shit-eaters...or those smart enough to get out? As Former Premier
Parizeau of Quebec said, I don't want to fight the system...I want to get
out. And the system is US FEDERALISM which is the scourge of mankind.
FWP.
(CIA-Canadian Intelligence Agency).

...we need a new President now.we got to get
those peple out for FBI/KGB work together now to destroy Chrisians,
Arabs, and Milita world wide.

Put Albight in that kitchen scrubbing foors, if anyone will have
her.the Butcher of the Balkans.

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
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Re: [CTRL] [Constitution-Coal] Today is President Reagan's Birthday

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His legacy is waiting to enter your Soul, but is obstructed by the
stench of the past seven years.  Be patient, Dude, and you and others
will see the Light on November 7, 2000 and restore morality to our
Nation once again and refresh your Goodness to enable you to share in
the economic powerhouse enabled by his economic policies of the early
'80s.
Essential we elect Constitutionalists to our federal government, or all
really will be lost.  Cheer Up and work for the dessimination of the
Truth.
Bard

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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] RUSSIA SELLS GUNS TO ITS CITIZENS THAT ARE ILLEGAL IN THE U.S.

[Colleen Jones]

And remember too while they try to disarm the USA Clinton has given
communists in China and Zionists in Israel neutron bombs, airplanes,
missiles, protective devices from bombs, gas masks which hey were not
allowed to wear in Seattleetc etc etc.but they want to disarm
America, Ireland, and look at Arabs.hey a handful of people are
terrorizing the worldwe need a new President now.we got to get
those peple out for FBI/KGB work together now to destroy Chrisians,
Arabs, and Milita world wide.

Put Albight in that kitchen scrubbing foors, if anyone will have
her.the Butcher of the Balkans.

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>From Ru Mills:

Check out this web page.  http://www.ycsi.net/users/gunsmith/russky_ad.htm">russky_ad
http://www.ycsi.net/users/gunsmith/russky_ad.htm

I don't know how much longer it will be up... check it out now.

You will see that it appears as if the United States and Russia have switched
scripts. As our government outlaws out guns, the Russian government starts
selling them to their citizens.

The following is from the webpage:

Russia is on the road to TOTAL freedom, and we're on the road to Lenin's and
Stalin's "dreamland". I mean, am I overeacting here?? I don't think
so...this gun pictured above is now illegal in Kalifornia,
right?? Heavily restricted everywhere else. And in Russia, if you got the
bucks, and no criminal history, it's YOURS legally!! I've been there a couple
of times and they've had SKS' in the stores, Siagas and Vepr's, but now 'our'
semi-auto "pre-ban" configured guns?? Has Colt found a new source for income?

Please people, 65,000,000 gun owners and only 3,000,000 members of the NRA??
We have GOT to do something here or it's going to be more fun to live in
Russia!!!


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Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water to Heat it Up

[earthman]

O shucks, thank you Foxter. I have been accused of being crazy, but 
never of lying.
 
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  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:03 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water to 
  Heat it Up
  
  I believe Peter would not 
  lie, that is proof enough for me.
   
  
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From: 
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Wyld 
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Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 12:41 
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water 
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-Caveat Lector-    -Cui Bono?-Show us the 
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Saturday, February 05, 2000 10:08 PMSubject: Re: [CTRL] Microwaving 
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Bono?->> June,> My niece only recently, had a 
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Lector-> >> > "Caveat Lector" indeed> 
>> > If I can dig it up, I'll post the URL which talks about 
this> > well-known urban legend...> >> > 
Suffice it to say, the chances of getting a scalding bubble> > to 
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extremely rare, indeed.  You have a better chance of having> 
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Re: [CTRL] Why did the Egyptians cancelled the most dramatic ceremony of the Millennium ?

[earthman]

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Or maybe they know that the May 5 alignment and Solar peak is the true
stargate. The timeline of the pyramid ends May 5 and I would think that this
would mean something.

Peter

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Kohl and Union Bank of Switzerland

[Kris Millegan]

From: "David Guyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>
> Any take on how they relate to the City?


Not really, Catherine.  Despite having worked there for nearly thirty years
it remains a highly secret place.  I know of no one who has publicly plumbed
it depths.  However, it is obviously a very "key" place.  For example, Calvi
was murdered and then suspended under Blackfriard bridge, located on the
peripherary of the City.  The fact that at the inquest Calvi was recorded as
a suicide when simple forensic evidence would've demonstrated a murder, must
be of significance.  Also, it is relevant that Calvi came to London to seek
a financial rescue package for his ailing Banco Ambrosiano, something that
shoud also not be overlooked.

It is also true that few people fully realise that the "City of London" is a
fully functioning "city" within the larger London city.  For example, the
"City" has its own fully independent police force (the City Police) who
answer to the City of London -- where London itself is policed by the
Metropolitan Police.  Imagine the financial district of Manhattan having a
self contained police force - not answerable to the Mayor of NY City - but
to the mayor and council of Wall Street.

Interestingly, the Metropolitan Police are only marginally less Masonic
than the City police - who have for years been members of the Brotherhood.

David

>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Guyatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 1:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Kohl and Union Bank of Switzerland
>
> From: "David Guyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> UBS have their dirty, sticky fingers all over numerous strange activities
I
> could mention.  They are far and away the number one dirty bank in
> Switzerland.
>
> I saw TV footage the other day of Kohl leaving a Catholic cathedral
> surrounded by Bishops and other "red hat" types.  This made me think.
> Philippe de Weck, former Chairman of UBS was tied in to Jean Violet's
"Pinay
> Cercle,"  an association of powerful players closely connected to OPUS DEI
> and possessing access to all major western intell outfits.
>
> Interestingly, De Weck also was one of the three wise men appointed to
> cover-up (sorry, clean-up) the Vatican's IOR mess in the wake of the Calvi
> murder (sorry, suicide) and the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano.  One of De
> Weck's board members at UBS was Dr. Arthur Wiederkehr who was responsible
> for establishing numerous shelf companies including SUPO HOLDINGS S.A.,
> Zurich.  As Robert Hutchison points out in his excellent book "Their
Kingdom
> Come," SUPO spelled backwards is OPUS.
>
> The French connection to the Kohl bribery affair (sorry, party donations)
> may also have an OPUS DEI involvement, especially if one is aware that
> Valery Giscard d'Estaing of the family banking firm Banque des Interets
> Francais (and one time French President) was 35% owned by Spain's Banco
> Popular Espanol - a 100% OPUS DEI bank.
>
> The fact is that OPUS DEI have bribed and murdered their way to great
power,
> not only in the Vatican itself - where they hold total sway - but also
> throughout European banking cirlces.
>
> I believe it probable that the Kohl affair will be shown to be yet another
> OPUS exercise in political bribery and corruption that slipped out into
the
> open.  The reference to "political parties in Spain and Portugal" is for
me,
> a dead give away.
>
> I particularly enjoyed reading the sentence below that revealed that "Much
> of the money stemmed from funds collected by German industrialists since
the
> 1950s."
>
> Could that possibly be... nah!  Bormann died in Berlin in 1945, didn't he.
>
> David
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Linda Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cia-drugs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 5:22 PM
> Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Kohl and Union Bank of Switzerland
>
>
> > From: "Linda Minor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > (Forwarded from Conspiracy Theory Research List)
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
> >  -Cui Bono?-
> >
> > Interesting to note in the article about Kohl, that the political
party's
> > money was held in an account funded by German industrialists in the
1950's
> > in the Union Bank of Switzerland.  See the connections with Dubya's
> > financing and also the Bank of Boston money laundering in the 80's.
Also
> > Pete Brewton traced proceeds from some of the looted S&Ls of the 80's
into
> > an Isle of Jersey (UK) branch of "an obscure Swiss Bank, Bank Cantrade
> > Switzerland, (C.I.), Ltd., a subsidiary of Union Bank of Switzerland.
> > [footnote--Jack Anderson, December 1986]
> >
> > "Bank Cantrade is one of the banks the CIA used to launder funds for
arms
> > purchases, according to Robert Maxwell, a former Maryland banker who
> worked
> > on moving money around for a CIA front, Associated Traders.  Maxwell,
who
> > was an officer at First National Bank of Maryland, has alleged that he
was
> > told by an

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>
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] WILL NATO BOMB VIENNA JUST LIKE THEY DID BELGRADE?

[Franklin Wayne Poley]

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 -Cui Bono?-

I sure hope so. Enough of these inferior honky mo' fo' types already.
Bohunks...all of them.
FWP.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Colleen Jones wrote:

> Note how the want to take the guns away from America?   None dare call
> this collusion and conspiracy?   The FBI/KGB now working together, and
> working against Ireland.they want the guns from the IRA?   Now
> Austria..will these people dare to bomb Austira?  If I were them I
> would think twice,  for who the hell does the Madline Albright think she
> is?
>
> Goes to the KGB and asks permission for USA to build a defensive system
> and comes home with praise for these killers?
>
> Do they disarm the Israelies?  No they run around in streets with
> submachine gunsbut they sure want to bomb the Arab world to get that
> oil.
>
> Albright and Kissinger..and Clinton - Clinton telephones tapped by
> Mossad whie he chases a little prostitute delivering pizza probably
> loaded with more than just mushrooms
>
> So Bomb Austria...they want WWIII they got it.
>
> Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
> *International Order of the Irish Mafia*
> The Clan of Dan*
> **DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**
>
>

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[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] THE OPAL FILE -Bill Gates

[Kris Millegan]

From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Good question but doesn't quite fit the pattern.

You see Daryl Gates, a NAVY veteran, who joined LAPD out of nowhere had been
the driver for LAPD's legendary Chief - Bill Parker. Parker loved James
Jesus Angleton, hated Hoover and had a speech writer named Sgt. Gene
Roddenberry. That's right, the same Gene Roddenberry who created Star Trek.
Roddenbery and used to run (and drink) with L. Ron Hubbard.

I have held in my hands, and it's a document I don't keep where I live, an
undercover report filed by a Long Beach police detective from 1961 or 1962.

It seems the LBPD guy had infiltrated the ultra right Minutemen. The
Minutemen were out in the So. Cal desert, about a hundred and fifty miles
from LA and they were shooting off small rockets, tossing grenades and
firing machine guns.

Well, up roars LAPD Captain Daryl Francis Gates (of Intelligence Division)
in his unmarked car and starts screaming at them to knock it off. The
Minutemen laughed and said, "Hey Pal you're out of your jurisdiction.
Besides that, the CIA told us it was OK to do this."

"According to the LBPD report gates then screamed, "Fuck you! I'm CIA and I
am telling you to knock this crap off right now!" Gates then (privately)
convinced the leaders that he was CIA and everyone went home - immediately.

Gates' activity reports as Chief throughout the 1980s are public documents.
He was meeting openly with CIA about once every ten days. George Morrison,
his Chief of Staff was a guy who appeared out of nowhere with the rank of
Commander. Several have confirmed that GHWB visited Parker center on several
occasions.

Consider the following quote from Phil Agee's CIA diary:

"Thousands of policemen all over the world, for instance, are shadowing
people for the CIA without knowing it. They think they're working for their
own police departments, when, in fact, their chief may be a CIA agent who's
sending them out on CIA jobs and turning their information over to his CIA
control."

This is where my life went south 22 years ago when I figured this out.

Mike Ruppert
www.copvcia.com


-Original Message-
From:   Brian Downing Quig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [CIA-DRUGS] THE OPAL FILE -Bill Gates

From: Brian Downing Quig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Wow!  Wow! Wow!

What a brilliant description of what are not really individuals but
constellations of individuals all with allegiance to an unseen (by us)
center of
power and decision.

Milken and Bush are in my opinion in a higher social circle than Daryl
Gates.
Could it be that this driver's rank in the CIA exceeded that of Gates?

Brian

Mike Ruppert wrote:

> From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Not to mention Daryl Francis gates of LAPD. Oh boy, that would be too
wild.
> BTW, Daryl Francis Gates of LAPD, whose former driver-bodyguard, John Vach
> was convicted of moonlighting for the CIA, was very close friends with
both
> Mike Miliken and George H.W. Bush.
>
> Mike Ruppert
> www.copvcia.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   Jamie Shafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   Saturday, February 05, 2000 11:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:Re: [CIA-DRUGS] THE OPAL FILE -Bill Gates
>
> From: Jamie Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Is Bill Gates related to the former (1940s?) Secy of Defense Thomas Gates?
> Thomas Gates was a descendant of Rev Gen. Horatio Gates who was a pk,
> and
> worse. The Gates family has a long history in this country.
>
> At 12:35 AM 02/05/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> >From: She Who Remembers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >At 09:02 PM 02-02-00 +0900, you wrote:
> >> I suspect Bill Gates
> >>got the nod - to set up an infrastructure tailor made to be covertly
used
> >>by the NSA and others for computerised intelligence gathering - but to
> >>this day, I doubt he knows he was 'used'.
> >>
> >>Sigh - I am raving again gotta go
> >>
> >>Duncan
> >>
> >
> >Don't be so naiive! Bill, of Harvard is son of powerful Seattle Lawyer.
> >Connected from get go.
> >
> >The guy just gave a $Billion for vaccination programs. Like the one that
> >brought us AIDS, and billions in profits to the pharmo co.'s
> >
> >He couold have given a $Billion to the CIA/Drugs abolition movement. But
he
> >didn't. He gave it to the Big Boys under the guys of helping 3rd world
> >kids. Give me a break.
> >
> >   -KEV for SWR
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] WILL NATO BOMB VIENNA JUST LIKE THEY DID BELGRADE?

[Colleen Jones]

Note how the want to take the guns away from America?   None dare call
this collusion and conspiracy?   The FBI/KGB now working together, and
working against Ireland.they want the guns from the IRA?   Now
Austria..will these people dare to bomb Austira?  If I were them I
would think twice,  for who the hell does the Madline Albright think she
is?

Goes to the KGB and asks permission for USA to build a defensive system
and comes home with praise for these killers?

Do they disarm the Israelies?  No they run around in streets with
submachine gunsbut they sure want to bomb the Arab world to get that
oil.

Albright and Kissinger..and Clinton - Clinton telephones tapped by
Mossad whie he chases a little prostitute delivering pizza probably
loaded with more than just mushrooms

So Bomb Austria...they want WWIII they got it.

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**




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WILL NATO BOMB VIENNA JUST LIKE THEY DID BELGRADE?
Posted By: RAYELAN
Date: Sunday, 6 February 2000, at 3:07 a.m.

This article is the best on Austria and the threats from the EU that I have
read. The man who wrote it really understands all the many pieces of the
puzzle. Please take the time to read the whole article. The text link is at
the bottom of this page.



February 4, 2000

HANDS OFF AUSTRIA!

In Vienna, an eerie sight: 20,000 leftists marched on the conservative
People's Party headquarters protesting the entry of Austria's Freedom Party
into the government and supporting the European Union's threat of sanctions.
According to the New York Times, "some protesters carried babies or marched
under pictures of Che Guevara. Many more carried the circle of yellow stars
that is the symbol of the European Union." The juxtaposition of Che Guevara
and the ominously dark blue field of stars that symbolizes the EU at the
Vienna demonstration dramatizes the new world political reality: the
effective merger of the old Communist and left-Social Democratic parties into
a single movement – and raises the question: who really won the cold war?

snip snip *

In the debate over the Austrian question in the European Parliament, Labor
Party member Glyn Ford rose to declare:

"Some say that it is not right for us to interfere in Austrian politics. They
are wrong. Some say we have to accept the outcome of democratic elections –
but elections do not always make democrats."

DIALECTICS AND "DEMOCRACY"

In other words, elections can and should be nullified if they don't measure
up to the proper standards of political correctness.

snip snip *

THE GLOBALIST DESIGN

As I have pointed out very recently, the EU is a key element of the globalist
design, the model of the emerging world state being constructed by Western
elites. Seeking to supplement (not supplant) NATO as the military guarantor
of regional security, the Eurocrats are planning their own armed forces,
which will police the continent for any outbreaks of forbidden "extremism,"
as in Serbia and Austria. It is not inconceivable that Austria could find
itself faced with more than the threat of mere sanctions.

Will "Allied" planes bomb Vienna, just as they devastated Belgrade?

TO READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j020400.html
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hilary, just curious if any of those 'get paid to surf the
> net' and 'get paid to read e-mail' deals you suggested back
> in October have actually paid anything yet.
>


NONE that I recommended have paid a damned DIME!

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[CTRL] Today is President Reagan's Birthday

[Bard]

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 -Cui Bono?-

.far and wide.
(after seven years of hell and one more year left
to endure, I thought you'd enjoy this:)

Pre-Presidential Biographical Sketch of Ronald W. Reagan

Feb. 6, 1911
Ronald Wilson Reagan was born in Tampico, Ill. to Nelle Wilson and John
Edward ("Jack") Reagan. The Reagan's had one previous son, Neil ("Moon")
Reagan.

1920
The Reagan's moved to a succession of rural northern Illinois towns
until they settled in Dixon, Illinois, the place Reagan considers his
hometown

1926
Beginning in 1926, Reagan was employed as a lifeguard at Lowell Park in
Dixon. He was credited with saving 77 lives during the 7 summers he
worked there.

1928
Reagan graduated from Dixon High School. He served as student body
president and participated in football, basketball, track, and school
plays.

1928-1932
Reagan attended Eureka (Illinois) College, a small liberal arts
institution, and majored in economics and sociology. During his
sophomore year, Reagan became
interested in drama. Reagan also served as student body president.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt's populist rhetoric attracted Reagan to him
and later influenced
Reagan's speaking style.

1932
Reagan received a temporary sports broadcasting job with WOC, a small
radio station in Davenport, Iowa. After WOC consolidated with WHO in Des
Moines,
"Dutch" recreated Chicago Cubs baseball games from the studio. WHO, an
NBC affiliate, gave Reagan natlonal media exposure.

1937
Reagan enlisted in the Army Reserve as a Private but was soon promoted
to 2nd Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry. An agent
for Warner
Brothers "discovered" Reagan in Los Angeles and offered him a seven year
contract. Reagan played George Gipp in his most acclaimed film, Knute
Rockne -- All
American (l940).

Jan 24, 1940
Reagan and Jane Wyman married. They met while making the movie, "Brother
Rat."

Jan 04 1941
Maureen was born

1942
The Army Air Force called Reagan to active duty and assigned Lieutenant
Reagan to the 1st Motion Picture Unit in Culver City, California, where
he made over 400
training films.

Jul 22 1943
The Army promoted Reagan to the rank of Captain

Dec 09 1945
The Army discharged Captain Reagan.

1945 - 1965
Reagan resumed his acting career after the war. Reagan made fifty-three
motion pictures and one television movie.

Mar 18 1945
Michael was born.

1948
Reagan supported Harry Truman for President

1949
Reagan and Wyman divorced.

1950
Reagan campaigned for Helen Gahagan Douglas for the Senate.

1952
Reagan campaigned as a Democrat for Eisenhower. Reagan accepted a job as
spokesman for the General Electric Company which allowed him to tour the
country
giving speeches.

Mar 4 1952
Reagan and Nancy Davis wed.

Oct 21 1952
Patricia was born.

1956
Reagan campaigned as a Democrat for Eisenhower.

May 20 1958
Ronald Prescott was born.

1960
Reagan campaigned for Richard Nixon for President.

1962
Reagan officially changed his party registration to Republican.

1964
Reagan's television address for Goldwater, "A Time for Choosing,"
launched his political career. A group of California businessmen soon
afterward supported
Reagan's candidacy for Governor.

1965
Reagan's autobiography, Where's the Rest of Me? is published.

1966
Reagan defeated incumbent governor Edmund G. ("Pat") Brown in a
landslide. His success in the election and as governor made him a
leading contender for the
Republican Presidential nomination in 1968.

1968
Reagan made a tentative run for the presidency, waiting until the
Republican National Convention to announce his candidacy. He later
joined in unanimously
supporting Richard Nixon.

1970
Reagan is re-elected governor.

1974
For several months after his gubernatorial term ended, Reagan wrote a
syndicated newspaper column and provided commentaries on radio stations
across the
country.

Nov 20, 1975
Reagan announced candidacy for the Republican nomination for president.
He lost the party's nomination, but his strong showing laid the
groundwork for the election
in 1980.

Nov 13, 1979
Reagan announced his candidacy for President. After winning the party's
nomination, he chose George Bush as his running mate. The platform
called for "a new
consensus with all those across the land who share a community of values
embodied in these words: family, work, neighborhood, peace, and
freedom."

Nov 4 1980
Reagan was elected the 40th President of the United States in a
landslide victory over the incumbent, Jimmy Carter.

Return to the Reagan Library Home Page
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/index.html

This is a man who had so much respect for the Oval Office
he thought it disrespectful to even remove his suit coat
while in that Room which has so much History.
With your help on November 7, we can restore the dignity
he manifested by his presence.

Bard

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE EU'S THREAT TOWARDAUSTRIA

[pmeares]

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Bob Stokes wrote:
>
> Are you saying that wars (upheavals) are productive?  The elites think there
> are limited resources to support life, is that the reason they want wars ...
> to leave more of these supposedly limited resources for them?  I don't think
> stirring the pot is always a good thing.  It would be more productive to stir
> the pot counter-clockwise and have the peasants kill the elites for a change,
> such is my opinion.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Stokes

Assassinations Politics?


Hmmm... I'll bid a 10 spot for any Gremlins and imps on this list:

Main Families in Skull & Bones :
(A) Whitney Family (1635, Watertown, Mass.)
(B) Perkins Family (1631, Boston, Mass.)
(C) Phelps Family (1630, Dorchester, Mass.)
(D) Bundy Family (1635, Boston, Mass.)
(E) Taft Family (1679, Braintree, Mass.)
(F) Wadsworth Family (1632, Newton, Mass.)
(G) Lord Family (1635, Cambridge, Mass.)
(H) Gilman Family (1638, Hingham, Mass.)
(I) Harriman Family (Railroads)
(J) Rockefeller Family (Standard Oil)
(K) Payne Family (Standard Oil)
(L) Davison Family (J.P. Morgan)
(M) Weyerhaeuser Family (Lumber)
(N) Pillsbury Family (Flour Milling)
(O) Sloane Family (Retail)

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Re: [CTRL] Earn a few bucks - REALLY

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Hilary, just curious if any of those 'get paid to surf the net' and 'get
paid to read e-mail' deals you suggested back in October have actually paid
anything yet.

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Re: [CTRL] MANNA FROM HEAVEN

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Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
>
> Hey, I'm on your side...I hardly think that whatever manna was, it was any
> form of mushroom.

I'm not surprised, June. In the year and a half I've been subscribed to
CTRL our opinions have rarely agreed on any subject (beginning with
your 'Sons of Liberty' fallacies).

Further, this mushroom/manna info I've been posting is not based on *my*
personal opinions, but the scholarly research of other, much more competent
and reputable individuals. Consider that John Marco Allegro, one of the
worlds leading philologists, put his neck on the line as one of a team of
researchers hired by the State of Israel and the British government to
decipher the "Dead Sea Scrolls" after they were discovered in the 1950's.
Allegro was hired because he was a biblical scholar and familiar with
nearly every major ancient language (Sumerian, Egyptian, Hebrew, Cuneiform,
etc.). His ultimate *objective*, linguistic conclusions caused him to be
kicked off the research team. Allegro had linguistically found a link of
synonyms and wordplay for the hidden identity of the mushroom throughout
the "Dead Sea Scrolls" and Bible (in Sumerian Manna = Mushroom). After
being kicked off the team he wrote, "The Sacred Mushroom And The Cross",
and fearlessly attempted to expose the reality of the mushroom symbolism
throughout the Bible, Apocryphal writings, and The Dead Sea Scrolls. The
current research of James Arthur reveals
:

  Even though it was the linguistic links that first brought this to light,
it was the understanding of the symbolism that drove it home. Once you know
where to look, and that was well revealed in the writings of Allegro,
deciphering the mythologies unfolds into a whole new level of
comprehension.

  The Manna the Israelites ate in the desert is presently defined as a
question. It is not ordinary for a word describing bread to be thought of
in this context. Manna is defined in this way: (Manna="What is it?") a
Biblical description of this mystical substance will toss the reader some
clues.

  1) Manna was a small round thing that appeared on the ground after the
dew had fallen.

  2) If it was left to the warmth of day it would breed worms and stink.

  3) Manna was thought of as being produced miraculously (IE: birth without
seed). This is a perfect botanical description of a mushroom. Birth without
seed (miraculous) is due to spores being microscopic and not visible to the
naked eye.

  The Mannas are described in detail by Jesus in the book of John. In this
story Jesus attempts to make clear; of manna, there are two different
ones/kinds. He describes the manna that he is giving the deciples (last
supper) as the Manna that bestows immortality. His statement, unless you
have eaten his flesh/body (Soma/Manna), and drink of his blood (Soma
Juice), you have no life in you, takes on a whole new meaning in light of
this discovery.

  The Manna is directly associated with the fruit of the Tree of Life in
the 2nd chapter of the book of Revelation. It is the reward for those who
overcome (the lies of the world). The "Fruit of the Tree", the "Hidden
Manna" and the "Small White Stone" are spoken of separately, but in the
same context

[...]

  Many questions should be asked about this cosmopolitan idea of the
"Sacramental Substance". Unfortunately, the religious experts shun the
notion, insisting that the entire idea is nothing more than symbolic. A
symbol points at something else, not usually at another symbology. The
Catholic church, in the early 1100's, decided to have the final word on
this subject by establishing (under Emperor/Pope Innocent III) the
"Doctrine of Trans-Substantiation". This it whereby, the Priests, by their
assumed holy power, claim to be able to say some magical words, and turn
ordinary bread into the literal "Body of God". This event is one of the
biggest evil deceptions of all time, is an undermining of the basic
esoteric aspects of the religion, and is, arguably, the most horrible and
damning event to ever happen to Christendom, and as such the entire human
race. Jesus clearly describes the Manna that he calls his body in the book
of John. Repeatedly describing the "Thing/Manna" as a substance hidden from
the world, but revealed to his disciples. Understanding the last supper
story becomes as simplistic as it gets, if you know how to decipher the
event. Adamantly; Jesus says, "Take and eat, This is my Body". This is the
TRANSFORMATIONAL and MAGNIFICENT event. By intentional misrepresentation
(by self appointed or politically correct AUTHORITIES) it has been stripped
down to rhetorical run around and ridiculous dogmatic interpretation by
enthusiastic religious stumbling-block-throwers.

  The Bible, as we have it today, should not be regarded as a historical
document. This is not to say that it is not very interesting, but it must
be read keeping in mind that it is a re-translati

[CTRL] "The Most Dangerous Woman in America," Hulda Regehr Clark

[Dave]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Anyone interested in helping to "OUT" the scumbags hiding behind
NCAHF should contact Tim & Jan Bolen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I would personally be willing to donate at least $100 toward a
competent private investigator to scrutinize NCAHF.
It is long past time that the NCAHF and it's RICO
(Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization) tactics
be terminated!

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


 THE MOST DANGEROUS WOMAN IN THE WORLD--HULDA
  CLARK
Contact
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 (949) 728-0838
 cell phone: (949) 433-6292
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 PRESS RELEASE
 for Immediate Release

 About two hundred people, from all over the world,
 came to meet conventional medicine's idea of "The
 Most Dangerous Woman in America," Hulda Regehr Clark,
 Phd, Nd., in Louisville, Kentucky, January 29, 30,
 2000.

 World renowned Clark is the controversial author of
 the top-selling books "The Cure For All Cancers, "The
 Cure For All Diseases." The Cure For HIV/AIDS," The
 Cure For Advanced Cancers."

 Clark, an award winning research scientist, found the
 markers, and the methods, to get rid of the causes of
 diseases such as cancer, HIV, and others. She has
 written four books on the subject and has disseminated
 her knowledge on the internet to allow people to help
 themselves.

 The Libertarian party held this seminar and Health
 Freedom Rally, introducing Dr. Clark, and explaining
 her methods, to show their support for her, and to
 defend the cause of medical freedom.

 Clark is under attack by what alternative health
 professionals call "the minions of the medical
 establishment," the National Council Against Health
 Fraud (NCAHF), which appears to be an operation run by
 a de-licensed MD out of a basement in Allentown,
 Pennsylvania.

 NCAHF henchmen have long lashed out at innovative
 health professionals without repercussion. But,
 alternative medicine advocates, have shifted focus,
 and are now pointing the finger at the NCAHF, and its
 supporters, claiming that the NCAHF activities have
 deprived millions of Americans of first-rate health
 care, causing unnecessary suffering and death.

 Alternative health professionals, all around America,
 are searching for the funding sources for NCAHF
 activities.



 Story Summary

 THE MOST DANGEROUS WOMAN IN AMERICA (to the medical
 establishment)

 Opinion by Tim Bolen

 Hulda Clark Ph.D., a medical researcher for 51 years,
 is challenging the basis of American conventional
 medicine. If she's right, and wins her battles,
 she'll change American medicine forever. If she's
 right, planet earth can go into the new millennium
 without cancer, HIV/AIDS and other killers.

 World-wide supporters say she is. And, no matter how
 hard minions of the medical establishment attack
 Clark, she just keeps picking up more, and more,
 support.

 Both the American Libertarian Party and the American
 Reform Party have made the attack on Clark in Indiana
 part of their "Election 2000" platform. They use it as
 an example of what's wrong with health in America.

 On the 29th and 30th of this month the Kentucky branch
 of the Libertarian party sponsored a two-day event on
 behalf of the Clark Defense campaign in Louisville,
 Kentucky.

 Clark, the author of "The Cure for All Cancers," etc.,
 was arrested September 20, 1999, by the FBI in San
 Diego, CA on a so-called fugitive warrant from
 Indiana. Brown County, Indiana Prosecutor James
 Oliver claimed Clark had been "Practicing Medicine
 without a License," seven years earlier when she was a
 resident of that county, and a researcher at the
 University of Indiana.

 71 year-old researcher Dr. Clark had been held for
 sixteen days in a holding cell, then driven 2,200
 miles in 37 hours in the back seat of a Indiana patrol
 car to Brown County, where she was immediately
 released on bail. Those legal issues have not yet been
 resolved.

 Prosecutor Oliver resigned from the case after it was
 made public that he had recently married Amy Hoffman,
 the original Investigator in the Clark case.

 Enraged supporters, after the arrest, organized a
 world-wide campaign on her behalf. And, the campaign,
 in full swing is no longer just a defense through
 raising money and public awareness. It is a
 full-fledged offense. Clark supporters are actively
 searching out the people they believe are behind the
 Clark attack, gathering information for prosecution.
 They believe that what is happening to Clark was
 "arranged" by minions of the medical establishment,
 and is a violation of federal RICO statutes. They
 believe that what is being done to Clark has happened
 time and time again to alternative health
 practitioners in America. They believe that the
 orchestration to stop innovation in health has caused
 the suffering and deaths of millions of American.
 They characterize this attack as just one more effort
 to discredit, and discourage, non-conventional health
 prac

[CTRL] U.S. Soldier Fights Discharge (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Friday February 4 3:21 PM ET


U.S. Soldier Fights Discharge

By BRIGITTE GREENBERG Associated Press Writer



WASHINGTON (AP) - A U.S. soldier's bad-conduct discharge for
refusing to serve on a U.N. peacekeeping mission should be
overturned because the jury was not allowed to decide whether
President Clinton's order to deploy was legal, the soldier's
lawyer argued Friday.

Attorney Henry L. Hamilton, representing Army medic Michael New,
told five judges of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed
Forces that Clinton's order to deploy troops to Macedonia in 1995
was illegal because he did not have congressional approval.

``Superiors may not compel subordinates to obey illegal orders,''
said Hamilton, a retired Army judge advocate general. ``The
government must prove lawfulness. ... If it's not a legal order,
there's no duty to obey it.''

Capt. Kelly Haywood, representing the government, argued that the
order's legitimacy was never for the seven-member military jury
to decide, and New had a duty to obey the commander in chief.

``The mission lives and dies by the soldier following an order,''
Haywood said.

New was among a few hundred mainly support troops that Clinton
sent in 1992 to Macedonia, one of six republics of former
Yugoslavia, to guard against the spread of unrest from other
areas torn by ethnic turmoil because of Yugoslavia's
dismemberment. They served in a a peacekeeping force dispatched
by the United Nations, and New refused to wear U.N. insignia on
his U.S. Army uniform.

The appeals court judges must decide whether Army Judge Lt. Col.
Gary Jewell, who oversaw court-martial proceedings against New in
January 1996, erred by essentially telling the jury that
Clinton's order was constitutional. If so, the case would be sent
back down for new court-martial proceedings.

The judges' decision is expected within two to three months.

At New's court-martial four years ago, the jury took only 20
minutes to convict him of disobeying an order. He was sentenced
to be given a bad-conduct discharge, but the discharge is being
held in abeyance during his appeals.

``What's at stake here is whether or not it's illegal for a
soldier to wear the uniform of foreign nations, of foreign
commanders,'' New said later, outside the courthouse.

While stationed in Germany in 1995, the native of Conroe, Texas,
refused to remove his American military uniform patch in favor of
the insignia and blue beret of the United Nations, saying he
would not serve a foreign power. Hamilton described his client as
a patriot.

``President Clinton lied to Congress to effect the deployment in
Macedonia,'' Hamilton said outside the courthouse. ``It all
stemmed from his duplicity in failing to inform Congress.''

New joined the Army in 1993. He served with U.S. units in Kuwait
since the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

While awaiting the outcome of his case, New is on involuntary
leave. The 26-year-old medical specialist has been working for a
Texas manufacturing firm and studying computers at a local
college.

He was arrested last July on drug charges for allegedly phoning
in a phony prescription to a pharmacy for a drug commonly
prescribed for people suffering anxiety. If convicted on that
charge, he could be sentenced to as much as 10 years in prison.

He was convicted in January 1998 of forging prescriptions and was
fined $500 and sentenced to seven years probation.

In March, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear New's military
case. The justices said he must exhaust all avenues of military
appeals before seeking relief from federal civilian courts.



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Re: [CTRL] Microsoft Java bug threatens IE Users

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  From: 
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  Subject: [CTRL] Microsoft Java bug 
  threatens IE Users
  
  More Microsoft woes:
  http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,2431555,00.html
   
  >>>
  Microsoft Java bug threatens IE UsersBy David Raikow, 
  Sm@rt Reseller February 2, 
  2000 10:47 AM ET
  As it continues its battle with Sun 
  Microsystems Inc. over the future of Java, Microsoft Corp. is finding itself 
  facing an entirely different type of obstacle: a newly uncovered security 
  glitch in its Java Virtual Machine. 
  According to a report 
  by Dr. Hiromitsu Takagi of the Japanese Ministry of International Trade and 
  Industry, the bug may allow an attacker to steal files from Web surfers who 
  are using versions 4, 5 and 5.01 of Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser that 
  include Microsoft's JVM. (Microsoft makes the JVM an optional, user-selectable 
  component of IE.) 
  As described in Takagi's report, the hole can be exploited by inserting a 
  single line of code into a Java applet and embedding that applet in a Web 
  page. An IE browser accessing the page will download and execute the applet 
  automatically, which will then read specific files on the user's machine. The 
  applet may then transmit the files back to a Web server or forward them as an 
  e-mail attachment. 
  Takagi says he believes the problem is "very serious. ... Attacking applets 
  can be implemented too much easily." 
  He recommends that IE users disable Java until Microsoft releases a patch; 
  alternatively, he suggests users download Sun's Java plug-in 
  or switch to Netscape Navigator. 
  A Microsoft official said this Java VM hole "was reported into 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] a little while ago. Currently, Microsoft is looking into 
  this issue." 
  This isn't the first JVM problem Microsoft has had. The company last year 
  issued patches for more than one Java VM 
bug.

[CTRL] Clinton to Consider Suspending Capital Punishment for Federal Crimes

[Eagle 1]

 
 
 
>>>


  
  

  


  Senator: Halt Federal 
ExecutionsClinton to Consider Suspending Capital Punishment for 
Federal Crimes 

  Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., sent President Clinton a 
letter requesting that he suspend federal executions. (Joe 
Marquette/AP Photo)
    
 
  
The Associated PressW A S H I N G T O N, Feb. 
  4 — President Clinton will consider a request that 
  he suspend federal executions, the White House said today. A spokesman 
  said Clinton is “certainly concerned” about Illinois’ decision to halt 
  executions and evaluate how that state handles the death 
  penalty. The suspension 
  request, made in a letter from Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., is being 
  reviewed by White House counsel, spokesman Joe Lockhart said. But he said 
  that does not guarantee that Clinton would act on the matter 
  soon. “The president was certainly concerned 
  by the issues raised by the governor of Illinois,” Lockhart said. “If 
  there are legitimate concerns that are brought to us, we will look at the 
  concerns. But I can’t predict anything beyond that until we’ve had a 
  chance to study the issue.” Feingold based his 
  request on Gov. George Ryan’s halt of executions in Illinois until 
  authorities determine whether the death penalty is administered fairly. 
  Since 1976, Illinois has executed 12 prisoners. But 13 death-row inmates 
  have been exonerated since 1987 through appeals, DNA evidence or, in a few 
  cases, persistent investigation by college journalism students. 
  Federal Courts 
  Issued 21 Death Sentences In a letter dated Wednesday, 
  Feingold asked that Clinton suspend federal executions and have Attorney 
  General Janet Reno thoroughly review how the federal death penalty has 
  been used, “in light of the serious questions raised in Illinois and 
  elsewhere.” “Before the federal government 
  executes anyone, the Justice Department should be absolutely certain that 
  innocents have not been condemned to death,” Feingold wrote. “It must 
  ensure that the federal death penalty is applied in a fair and just 
  manner.” According to Feingold, sponsor of a 
  bill to abolish the federal death penalty, federal courts have sentenced 
  21 people to die, three-quarters of whom are 
  minorities. Among the condemned is Oklahoma 
  City bomber Timothy McVeigh. Another, Juan 
  Raul Garza, has exhausted his appeals and could become the first federally 
  executed prisoner since 1963. Garza, head of a marijuana-trafficking ring 
  in Brownsville, Texas, was sentenced to die for the murders of three men 
  he suspected of being police informants. 
  Nationally, 85 people have been freed from death row since 1973, according 
  to the Death Penalty Information Center.  
  Copyright 2000 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
   
   
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[CTRL] Microsoft Java bug threatens IE Users

[Eagle 1]

More Microsoft woes:
http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,2431555,00.html
 
>>>
Microsoft Java bug threatens IE UsersBy David Raikow, 
Sm@rt Reseller February 2, 2000 
10:47 AM ET
As it continues its battle with Sun 
Microsystems Inc. over the future of Java, Microsoft Corp. is finding itself 
facing an entirely different type of obstacle: a newly uncovered security glitch 
in its Java Virtual Machine. 
According to a report by 
Dr. Hiromitsu Takagi of the Japanese Ministry of International Trade and 
Industry, the bug may allow an attacker to steal files from Web surfers who are 
using versions 4, 5 and 5.01 of Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser that 
include Microsoft's JVM. (Microsoft makes the JVM an optional, user-selectable 
component of IE.) 
As described in Takagi's report, the hole can be exploited by inserting a 
single line of code into a Java applet and embedding that applet in a Web page. 
An IE browser accessing the page will download and execute the applet 
automatically, which will then read specific files on the user's machine. The 
applet may then transmit the files back to a Web server or forward them as an 
e-mail attachment. 
Takagi says he believes the problem is "very serious. ... Attacking applets 
can be implemented too much easily." 
He recommends that IE users disable Java until Microsoft releases a patch; 
alternatively, he suggests users download Sun's Java plug-in or 
switch to Netscape Navigator. 
A Microsoft official said this Java VM hole "was reported into 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a little while ago. Currently, Microsoft is looking into 
this issue." 
This isn't the first JVM problem Microsoft has had. The company last year 
issued patches for more than one Java VM 
bug.

[CTRL] Addenda: Abidjan/Mugu

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...The victims of the Abidjan Airbus crash were mostly Nigerians en
route to Lagos (lakes, i.e., "LL"s). The Mugu crash victims were returning
from vacation in Puerto Vallarta ("LL").
...The astrologically inclined will notice in the Abidjan crash that
the Moon is conjunct Pluto conjunct Antares ("Mars' Deputy," the giant red
star symbolic of war and violent conflict). In addition, Mars in the chart is
conjunct the Descendant. This is ominous. The "LL"s have employed horoscopic
signatures as an integral part of their communication system since the 1895
advent of radioactivity.
(Their operation during the U.S. Civil War is almost impossible to identify
and may be entirely lacking. Their presence has been increasingly obvious
since human tinkering with the atom began.)
..See previous prj list postings UFOs PEEKING and UFOs CORRECTED.

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[CTRL] Abidjan / Pt Mugu crashes

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Another example of the mysterious operations of the "LL" forces seems to be
apparent in the recent jetliner crashes near Abidjan and Point Mugu. One clue
is revealed by the place name Taza, Morocco, east of Pt. Mugu and north of
Abidjan. Mugu: a mug is a form of cup while in Spanish "taza" means a cup as
in a cup of coffee, if I recall correctly. This is not likely to be
fortuitous. It is subtle and not likely to induce a widespread panic except
amongst government criminals.
..The next omen was the stabilizer problem at Phoenix, AZ.
Here we see east of Mugu and north of Phoenix (one of the "L"s)
the place names Rock Springs, Arizona, on the Agua Fria River. The
Mugu/Phoenix midpoint is near the place name Desert Center in eastern
Riverside Co., Calif. In conjunction with Morocco this seems to suggest
earthquakes and water problems.
How this relates to secret U.S. government criminal activity is a
complex and highly detailed matter which is difficult to summarize in a few
words.
American Airlines (AMR $56) and Delta Airlines (DNT $22) haven't
moved much price-wise per share since these events.
Abidjan crash: 01.30.2000, 9:08pm zone 0, approx. 3W40,
5N00. ASC 23 Virgo.
Mugu crash: 01.31.2000,  4:22pm (impact), zone +8h. W.,
approx. 119W05, 34N03. ASC 30 Cancer.

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[CTRL] A Canadian Agenda...Which Some Would Call A Conspiracy Against US-Federalist Tyranny.

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Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] The Dreams of Kings

From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   Joseph interpreted the king's dreams but Daniel went one better and
also dreamt the dreams of kings. Today we can dream "out loud" and conduct
ongoing dream analysis to bring our dreams into conjunction with reality.
As Prime Minister Chretien and Foreign Affairs Minister Axworthy (see
letter below) will remember, Professor Morton, the Manitoba historian
wrote that the Fathers of Confederation first thought of calling the new
country the "Kingdom of Canada". Then they settled on the "Confederation
of Canada".
   It is not Canada's allegiance to NATO which is my concern,
Mssrs. Chretien and Axworthy, so much as Canada's new role as lackey of US
federalism. Can you tell us how and when the Canadian CON-Federation
became (US-styled) Federalism? Why is that word used today by Ottawa
Parliamentarians? What Constitutional amendment established the change?
   Now that the balkanization of Canada is imminent and the Blackfoot
Nation is about to take a seat in the UN General Assembly, perhaps the
people of Yugoslavia can give some advice on how to stave off US invasion
with the help of NATO. (By the way, can you explain why there was a news
blackout on the series of Blackfoot declarations including the Declaration
of Independence?). During the 1995 Quebec Independence vote Canada was
invaded by the best of the US fleet on east and west coasts. Here at
Vancouver's Harbour Centre we got the USS Constellation, the "flag
ship" no less, which blew half of Vietnam to hell a few decades ago. But
then, US Federalism cannot possibly comprehend "Liberty and Justice".
   One important role of Official Opposition leader Preston Manning has
been to delay EDD (Electronic Direct Democracy) which would upset the
anti-democratic US Federalist system. As Diane Francis said a few years
back on national tv, we don't have a democracy here...they run
dictatorships in five year shifts. Demokratisatsya-Glasnost-Perestroika.
All this causes US federalists to quake in their boots. So much more the
reason to enlist the help of Yugoslavia on how best to balkanize Canada.
   But why not go all the way with this and start talking about what a
"Kingdom of Canada" would be like? Why would Conrad-The-Magnificent want
to be the underling to an English fruit with big ears when he could
establish his own KINGDOM right here in Canada? So that takes care of the
question of aristocratic titles for Canadians and the Black-Chretien law
suit. Those who dream of such things can tell all of us what their Kingdom
of Canada would be like.
   Churchocrats dream of heaven. "Pursue ye first the Kingdom of
Heaven" said Jesus Christ. I take it they have some idea as to what
this Kingdom is like? How can they describe it? "Thy will be done on earth
as it is in heaven" What would the Kingdom of Heaven be like if
established on earth? Can churchocrats even give us an approximation to
it? The BC Human Rights Commission is ma

Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

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Yes it can happen expressly if there was any
thing left in the dish like a little fat.
Anyone think of the minerals in different
water supplies?
All water is not created equal

is the spoon that you are putting into
the water completely clean?

Yes, I would warn about the potential of
this happening!
The Pied Piper

Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
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> Okay, here's the segment of the Tourbus newsletter I got a few weeks ago,
> explaining how the exploding microwaved water phenomenon is extremely
> rare...
>
> June
> --
>
> URBAN LEGEND #2: water heated in a microwave oven could possibly
> 'explode' into a steam bubble, causing a scald burn.
>
> Ding-ding-ding.  We have a winner!  It turns out that this urban
> legend is true ... sort of.  It is theoretically possible that water
> heated in a microwave oven could reach temperatures above 100 C
> without turning into steam.  When something is added to this
> superheated water (a tea bag, a spoon, or whatever), the water would
> rapidly change states from water to steam.
>
> Fortunately, this is pretty rare.  So rare, in fact, that you need not
> warn your friends about it.  According to our friend David Emery,
>
>   A search of the medical literature on microwave injuries ...
>   [shows] references to trauma caused by everything from overheated
>   pizza to exploding eggs, but no mentions I could find of serious
>   injury due to surges or explosions of boiling water.
>
> Anyway, if you want to learn more about turbulence and nucleation in
> superheated liquids (whee!), take a look at either
>
> http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/microwav.htm">
> http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/microwav.htm 

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Atrocities happen when the people about you -
 start considering you surplus.

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Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

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MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

> Again, it IS common!  And it has happened in front of me at least
> 10 times!

I've seen this happen several times too - it certainly is not a UL! -
and probably not all that rare, since I've heard friends and family
speak of it too.

Kelly

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[CTRL] Political Stability of the Czech republic?

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When you take a look at this page remember that ITT based its
planning on what any other company look for, but if the Czech
Republic is stable what are they comparing it to?

Why are some of these wars happening now?

I seem to have ties to Austria and I was brought up
to NOT believe in blackmail. The person (idea) is dead,
long live their memory - the mindset of the person.

The ones that wanted control called the Hapsburgs
"Jailers of the Serbs" in the 1900's
yet if that was true why did technology go at such a fast pace?
What was wealth? The people and their ideas - EDUCATION
What is the difference in the Royal Families? Because they
are pushed from birth, they and their alegences are choosen
not from fads or because of chasing some skirt or pair of pants
but by what will help their country. Arraged marrages (allegences)
are a fact since you have to find someone that can help keep the
coolaboration of your people in balance.  Rule by birth? Trained,
pushed because of being born in a royal house! Trained to be
President by birth? But anyone can do it, yes anyone can learn,
can be educationed but does everyone want the obligations that
go with leading? If you are pushed by other ideas do you want to
allow the people to have a

foundation - a national identity

or

are you going to try to take out all of their foundations and
history and national identities to be able to replace those
with a monoploy?

To circumvent all foundations, ALL Honor with altamations that
think your way.

Princess(s) or Prince(s) are a dime a dozen
Example: think of the Arabian harems
Just because you are the first born
does not mean that you will carry the ideas of the
family name to the next generation. It can be true the
only way out is to fall or should I say fail - to abicate
is not a option since the impirial WE is a reality and
the WE, the collaboration will still follow to find out
why one idea (person) failed to be able to keep the
next one from failing.

So, taking a person hostage (or a country) does not
count as control!

Now to tie this into the Thesis that I am developing
What is there in a
"Center of Education that would lead to it's down fall?
any time a major center of education was amassed, compiled, or
   put together is was destroyed, why? The educational center was
   pushed by other cultures, the children tested by the rules and morals
   of that culture to see how the other culture might be able to
   integrate the ideas or to control the desirable education.
   Killing the Goose that laid the golden egg.


"When ITT was planning to build a new plant to
manufacture passenger car brake boosters in the region, the
Czech Republic was considered along with Poland.
Hungary and Slovakia. CzechInvest provided ITT with
information ranging from macro-economic conditions to the
labour situation that influenced ITT to select the Czech
Republic.

The decisive factors affecting ITT's decision were the country's
economic and political stability."

On to the web page
The Pied Piper
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Projects in detail
  A brief description of some of the CzechInvest's projects.
http://www.czechinvest.com/news/projects/projects-in-detail.html

Projects in detail
  A brief description of some of the CzechInvest's projects.
Index:
Cottex
Arrow
  Matsushita
  Schade KG
 Nike
 ITT



Cottex, Hualon

The Joint Venture Department assisted in the successful
acquisition of the Czech Company Cottex Hronov by
Textonnia, the Malaysian subsidiary of the Hualon Group
of Taiwan. Cottex Hronov had been undergoing
bankruptcy proceedings for two years at the time of the
acquisition. The new company, Textonnia Czech Ltd., will
be completely restructured and modernised to produce
textile fabrics of the highest quality. Total investment
should reach $ 23 million and create 1000 jobs.



  Arrow

In the case of Arrow International. a manufacturer of
medical equipment. CzechInvest provided extensive
support in dealing with local legal procedures involved in
establishing a new greenfield production facility of
advanced technological equipment.

Arrow selected the historical city of Hradec Králové in
which to invest $15 million. The city was selected due to
the need to locate the manufacturing operation close to the
most capable and highly developed cardiology surgical
facility in Central-Eastern Europe, found in the city's
Faculty of Medicin

Re: [CTRL] Hitler-ism or (NWO) New World Order is Suicidal #2

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Snob? What Snob? I don't see Snob?
(Ref: movie "Short Circuit" with robot #5)

At the risk of seeming to be a dense,
thick skull -
May I paraphrase and add to the essay?

or should I just say
THANK YOU

Will add, but may have to wait
until quarter break, I have another
essay (about Austria) in the works.
Will post (Austria essay) soon.
The Pied Piper

PS the reference about fat, think
about "Let them eat cake"
and the amount of fat in cake.
The rats of the Pied Piper
to have that problem can mean
a problem with food (fat) in the
country side. It has been said that
rabies goes in cycles of 7 years
(in the wild)
6 years of prosperity and then a year
when there are too many grazing animals
for the land to support if the predators
are taken out?

year #1  almost control but for the Jews
which will not follow fads because
their religion will not allow it.
year #2 1400's witch hunts because naturalist
will not normally follow fads
year #3 almost have control of the church
year #4 you have "back to nature, out with
Church"
year #5 you have "off with the Royal head"
year #6 you have "off with Maximilien Robespierre head"
year #7 almost control but rulers advocate all
skills and will not go for a fad that is
detrimental to their country.
year #8 redefined separation of church and state
when that phrase came in it was because
that at one time the church owned more
land than the ruling family or the people.
year #9 almost control of technology
year #10 almost control when TV comes in
year #11 almost control when satellites comes in
year #12 almost control when the internet comes in
year #13 the Empire is dead since the continent will
not go for fads that might be suicidal.

The theme, many advocate technology, since it is what
you can sell when everything else fails but
education, educated people
will not consume or go for fads fast enough to be
taken over.
So, out with the ruling families since they believe
in stability, history, and national identity.

This will lead into the essay on Austria,
and the fact that taking Austria hostage
will not avail them anything since the only
new ideas they have had come from taking over the
patent office of the countries that they get control of.
Interesting that Einstein worked for the Swiss patent
office - if I told you how to do fractions what could
you do with it. I am not saying that he plagiarized, but
that since he might have expanded on "another line" of
thought that some might have gotten the idea of just
taking the original thinker's ideas at the start.
Wonder what ideas Clinton has slapped a national
security tag on and then sold to someone else?
Could it be that the military has had matter transmission
out for years and is being kept from implementing it
until the dye, horse, pharasudical, auto monopoly can
control it - since the military does not require the sort
of patent that they will?

year #? you have ?
long year we are having, isn't it?

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Black Death - leaves France with a population of 2000.

1558-1603
Elizabeth I. Anglican church still used vestments, candles, incense, and
music in church services. Catholics thought it was too little and
Protestants thought it was too much ritual.
1580-1631
John Smith and
1607
Pocahontas
1611
King James version of the Bible

1720
innoculation for smallpox which has just hit Boston
1775-1783
the revolutionary war
1776
Declairation of Independance
1783
First Hot Air Balloon Flight with human pilot
1787
Constitution
1789
June The liberal bourgeois phase of the French revolution came to a
climax
1789
9 out of 10 Americans are engaged in farming and food production
1790
Report on Public Credit - aims to expand financial reach of federal
government and reduce power of the states
1792
France "...the love of nature which had become so closely entwined with
the revolution." "A more formidable undertaking was to replace
Christianity by a religion of nature."p.296
1792
July La patrie en danger. Ils nous ont trahis.
1792
Sept The Austrian and Prussian advance was halted at Valmy, Paris (1)
1793
France "The king must die," said the lawyer Maximilien Robespierre, "so
that the state may live." (1)
1794
July France The last of the ones that advocated the ruling house should
be guillotined - were guillotined themselves. The last one to go was
Robespierre. (1)
1798
French General Napoleon Bonaparte

1810
An electro-chemical telegraph is constructed in Germany. (3)
1819
Indian Civilization Act




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> At the risk of seeming like an intellectual snob, I have to say that knowing
> at least a little Latin helps greatly... Aspirin is "AcetylSALICylic Acid".
> The emphasized part of the word, "SALIC", comes from Latin *salix*,
> "willow". If you're ever out on a camping t

[CTRL] INTERNET ALREADY SIGNED SEALED DELIVERED

[lloyd]

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..

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Subject: INTERNET ALREADY SIGNED SEALED DELIVERED
Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 1:56 PM

In a message dated 2/1/2000 8:08:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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<< THE THREAT TO THE NET
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 >By Pat Aufderheide
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 >Who owns the Internet? If you think the answer is "nobody," you're
 >right--for now. That's why it has been such an astonishing innovation that
 >has flourished so vibrantly at the grassroots. >>

   Its not an "innovation". It was conceived and designed with all the back
doors, side doors and keyword scanning capability that the designers thought
would be necessary to monitor the "traffic" and watch for "offenders". And
who do you think that was?
The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. It used to be called
DARPAnet. It is in effect a "trojan horse". All this talk about
"registration" and "taxing" is sabre rattling to divert the internet users
into aimless talking about things that don't matter. They (darpa) do not have
to "take it back" like indian givers, they already OWN IT. They are the
MASTER BUILDERS of the internet.

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Re: [CTRL] Leonard Peltier - anniversary of his arrest/Star Wars

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Interesting item..this man should be released and what about the
money and proposed spending for Sioux Nation?  And the thief Jacobs, the
treasurer..does Clinton get his kick backs here too?

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
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[CTRL] Experimental Ufology: A New Trail to Blaze

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#5. Experimental Ufology: A New Trail to Blazeby Andrea Pérez Simondinj
http://www.inexplicata.com/issue5/experimental_ufology.htm

(Excert taken from: INEXPLICATA http://www.inexplicata.com/   © 1999 by Scott
Corrales Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

Numerous theories have been promoted throughout the world by the most famous
researchers in their efforts to find a conclusive answer to the "UFO
phenomenon". Essays are seldom accompanied of investigative research that
substantiates these theories, and it is for this very reason that UFO
investigators are castigated almost daily by members of the scientific
community.

A group of Argentinean ufologists have begun pursuing a different path,
believing that they have an "important ceiling" as a result of the absence of
technological and financial resources, but basically due to the lack of
knowledge that they must face in every investigation.

Science has the elements and knowledge necessary to generate the conditions
that bring us close to an answer, if not to find conclusive answers about the
nature of the UFO phenomenon. Belief that the phenomenon is real and does
exist, in the words of nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman, led a scientific
commission in December 1997 to conclude that there was a indeed a possibility
of studying the phenomenon and moreover, that commissions of the world's air
forces were concerned about finding an explanation to this enigma. Mind you,
at no time are we discussing extraterrestrials, infraterrestrials, or
dimensional phenomena. We are talking about reality.

Argentinean researcher Silvia Pérez Simondini is working earnestly on
technology integration based on experimental ufology. Silvia has designed
equipment able to detect field variations (magnetic, thermal, frequencies,
etc.) in order to produce a topographic survey in one of the areas with the
highest concentration of UFO sightings in the Republic of Argentina:
Victoria, province of Entre Rios. The parameters obtained are analyzed in
detail to create a series of statistics which will ultimately enable us to
make the first conclusions in these fields.

This project was first implemented in the city of Victoria on the 12th and
13th of March, 1999. A number of researchers took part in this symposium:
Pablo Warncroukt, Carlos Iurchuk, the Visión OVNI Group, Nestor Gaioli, Pablo
Pouchet, Christian Pérez Simondini, Raul Benítez and Andrea Pérez Simondini.
Given that this was the initial test, many aspects must still be perfected,
since the basic measurements were not taken into consideration.

It is worth noting that on the night of March 12, the experiment undertaken
on the summit of Cerro La Matanza twice recorded significant alterations of
the magnetic field. On the 13th, experiments took place in a field near
Victoria which brought about constant activations of the equipment.

There is still much to be done. It is imperative to incorporate new equipment
that will establish measurements from other fields so that as this research
is being undertaken, we may annotate the normal conditions of the terrain and
the sites where they are made. These studies shall continue to take place,
and surely followers of the El Dragón Invisible website
(www.geocities.com/area51/3184)   will find out with due notice in order to
take part in them.

It is also worth noting that we have manage to gain the support of the Paraná
Air Base in the form of technical assistance (radar readings) and computer
services. This enables us to quickly determine the nature of heavenly objects
and artifacts of a terrestrial provenance. We have also enlisted the services
of Prof. Massimo Teodorani, who places his skills at the disposal of this
humble research team.

I will take advantage of this opportunity to encourage all specialists and
technicians who may provide data, information and suggestions regarding this
research work to please contact us at the address which appears at the foot
of this page.

Information on Iridium Satellites

Over the past five years, the development of satellite technology has
unleashed a significant communications war, not only based on the financial
investment involved, but the technological developments involved in providing
better service to the consumer.

The ideal cellular phone is the one that seeks to keep a customer in touch in
and with any part of the world, and without any interference or
interruptions. This seemed like a pipe dream up until only a few years ago,
but it is part of today's reality. Even if the system does not operate as
advertised, it nonetheless exists and has produced improvements in satellite
technology. This is what I would like to elaborate upon. UFO researchers now
find ourselves faced with a new type of satellite --Iridium--which moves
through space with completely different characteristics.

During the month of January [1999] there were sightings in the communities of
Vict

[CTRL] suppressed Waco photos and files ...

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http://home.maine.rr.com/waco/autopsy.html

The files you are about to view are shocking.

Bard

Your Vote will determine if we have another WACO.
The traitorous socialist demo/repub thugs must
be crushed into oblivion on 11/7/2000;
at all levels of government.
Only you can remove the insidious influence of
the Tyranny waged by the CFR/TC.

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[CTRL] Leonard Peltier - anniversary of his arrest/Star Wars

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Re: http://www.nonviolence.org/noflyby

February 6, 2000


The following is a press release from the Leonard Peltier Support
Group of Greater New England. The ongoing imprisonment of Leonard Peltier
and the eviction of Dineh (Navajo) people from their homeland in Arizona for
coal strip mining are the same evidences of human rights violations that are
related with the U.S. dishonoring treaties with other nations to develop
missile defense ("star wars") that jeopardizes the well being for all people.

It is ironic that Hillary Clinton has chosen the anniversary date of
Leonard Peltier's arrest to formally announce her candidacy for the New York
Senate race. After six years of refusing to respond to Leonard Peltier's
petition for executive clemency, the U.S. media continues to hide the fact
of actions of U.S. ethnic cleansing for greed and corruption. Please read
Leonard Peltier's book, Prison Writings: My Life Is My Sun Dance to learn
more and visit websites at end of the following press release. It is not too
late to right the many wrongs of U.S. racist policies that threaten everyone.


**

For Immediate Release

February 6, 2000 marks the 24th year of the imprisonment of Leonard
Peltier. Amnesty International has called for his immediate and
unconditional release. Leonard Peltier is an Anishinabe-Lakota Indian and a
leading member of the American Indian Movement (AIM), who is serving two
consecutive life sentences for "aiding and abetting" the murders of FBI
agents' Jack Coler and Ronald Williams on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation
in 1975. Considering the facts of this case, that they hold Leonard Peltier
responsible for their deaths is simply preposterous.

Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General, wrote in the forward of
Leonard
Peltier's book, Prison Writings: My Life Is My Sun Dance: "With government
complicity, a rogue paramilitary group that proudly called itself the GOONS
-- Guardian of the Oglala Nation -- were provided with weapons, training and
motivation to create a wave of violence, still remembered as "the reign of
terror," against traditional Indian people and their supporters, including
the American Indian Movement. In March of 1975 alone seven Indians were
killed, their deaths going virtually uninvestigated despite the presence of
that army of FBI agents and other federal, state, and tribal lawmen. And
that's why the traditional people, the Elders of the Lakota (Sioux) people,
asked AIM, as they had two years before at Wounded Knee, to send some people
to help protect them. And I say, thank God AIM did."

What is behind these ruthless endeavors to control the Indian population?
Could it be related to the fact that on the day of the shootout at the
Jumping Bull Ranch in 1975, 1/8 of the Pine Ridge Reservation was
transferred for U.S. uranium and gold mining interests? These events are
still happening today. By legal maneuvering the U.S. Government has given a
notice of eviction to thousands of Dineh (Navajo) people to move from their
homeland in Big Mountain, Arizona for coal strip mining by Peabody Coal
Company, a subsidiary of Lehman Brothers. The U.S. government and Senator of
Arizona, John McCain, claim that they are working according to the law of
the land. It is outrageous that sacred land is slated to be strip-mined for
coal, with its dislocated people to be sent downstream from America's worst
nuclear waste accident. The outcome, if the plan becomes reality, would be
yet more suffering, continued human rights abuses, and the consequences of
increased global warming and the raping of Mother Earth.

The world needs justice to survive the greed and control of a few. The
peoples' voice must be heard. Please join the campaign to support Leonard
Peltier's parole this March, support his petition for Presidential Executive
Clemency, call for Congressional Hearings to investigate documented FBI
abuses and help save Big Mountain. We can restore justice and honor treaties
with sovereign nations. We have a chance, if we unite and act soon, to make
a real difference for all our relations.

Leonard Peltier Defense Committee,
Box 583, Lawrence, KS 66044 (785)842-5774
www.freepeltier.org  /  www.wisdomkeepers.com /
www.LISN.net /  www.visionquests.com
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Call the White House Comments Line -  202-456- ext. O
Demand Justice for Leonard Peltier, the Dineh
and for all by honoring the ABM and
Peaceful Use of Space treaties.

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1

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SkeptiNews 000206a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* No lame hippopotami were harmed during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ What's New, Pussycat? http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/ha/alcmk/Page/neko.gif
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SOHO Solar Observatory Back Up After Mysterious Failure. Two days after a
  key subsystem mysteriously shut down, the sun-pointing SOHO spacecraft is
  back on the job after a quick repair by project scientists. Just in time
  too: http://www.space.com/science/solarsystem/soho_restarted_991130.html

# STARGATE II: awesome event seen on SOHO. "The great Rod of Power of the
  Logos himself is hidden in the sun." http://cbjd.net/orbit/sun/strgt2.html

: Have you watched the Sun lately? Have you observed ominous solar flares?
When will a solar flare destroy Earth? Are you ready to flee? Who is trying
to keep humans from watching the Sun by sabotaging SOHO? What do they gain?

# Stratosphere Alert. UPPER STRATOSPHERIC ANALYSES SHOW THE CENTRE OF THE
  ELONGATED VORTEX BETWEEN GREENLAND AND NORWAY AND THE COLDEST AIR TILTED
  FROM THE NORTH ATLANTIC AT 5 HPA TO CANADA/ALASKA/EAST ASIA IN THE LEVELS
  ABOVE. A LARGE WARM AREA, CENTRED OVER EASTERN EUROPE, CONTINUES OVER
  EUROPE, WEST AND NORTH SIBERIA AND THE WHOLE POLAR REGION, LEADING TO
  A REVERSED TEMPERATURE GRADIENT BETWEEN 60N AND THE POLE IN THE UPPER
  STRATOSPHERE. http://strat-www.met.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/stratalert?1
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Court: Park's Jesus statue is unconstitutional -- even on private land.
  MARSHFIELD, Wisconsin (AP) -- An appeals court ruled that a statue of
  Jesus Christ that stands on privately owned land within a city park
  violates the law because people could assume the city government
  endorses a religion. http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/02/06/jesus.statue.ap/

# Jesus-like roaming preacher is no phony, says priest - In rural Pennsyl-
  vania, a humble man brightens people's lives. Roving preacher finds a
  haven. Carl J. Joseph, known only as “What’s your name?” until recently,
  preaches at a fire hall in Mahanoy City in Schuylkill County. Birds flock
  around him: http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/2000/Feb/06/city/HOLY06.htm

# NUN BUN. Coffee Shop Owner Vows to Continue Exhibit of Miracle
 'Nun Bun'. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/news/archiv3.html#nunbun

: What's your favorite holy image? D'ya prefer life/dead Jesus/Elvis/Buddha
impersonators? Should they be govt-supported, or wholly within the private
sector? When holy personages die, should they be stuffed & mounted & exhibi-
ted in public parks? Should they be reproduced as statues, pastries, dildos?
Should they be cloned so they can continue their good work into the future?

@ D'ya love a pet so much you'd do anything to keep that pet one day exiting
  your life? The folks at Missyplicity are planning to, uh, clone their dog,
  Missy  before she leaves
  this world. These people 
  aren't kidding. And see http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Pets/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SELLING OUT FREEDOM OF THE PRESS FOR WAR ON DRUGS. Demagogues coerce the
  media to propagandize: http://politicslive.com/2000/02/06/drugs.asp
# BOB MARLEY LEGACY GROWS AS JAMAICANS CELEBRATE HIS 55TH BIRTHDAY. In
  Trench Town, it's as if Bob Marley never died. The ganja poured like
  rain: http://CNN.com/2000/WORLD/americas/02/05/rememberingmarley.ap/
@ DrugSense Weekly: http://www.drugsense.org/current.htm

: Is drug self-administration an inalienable right? Why do conspirators deny
you this right? Do they fear you controlling your own thoughts, emotions,
destiny? Have you codified your rights? Do you fight to preserve them?

# Teens busted for writing porn version of U.S. Constitution. The middle-
  schoolers' 18-page manifesto -- drafted with a preamble & articles in the
  style of the U.S. Constitution -- included sexual references and racial
  slurs. http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/lonw/quin02052000.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# UFOs ARE NOT BLIMPS. Based on witness testimony, this rules out the so-
  called stealth blimp. Blimps do not accelerate to speeds faster than jets
  or jump around. Unknown to those not involved in the investigations, two
  of the large objects in the Phoenix Lights also made incredibly rapid
  accelerations.  http://www.sightings.com/ufo6/notblimps.htm

# UFO Shoots Beam At Four Boys: http://www.ufobc.org/yukon/4boys.html

: Have any UFOs recently fired beams at you, accelerated incredibly, moved
silently, dumped frozen material on you, crashed in your pasture, harvested
your family, mutilated your cattle? Why not? Don't they want

[CTRL] Tank action at '93 siege draws criticism (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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Tank action at '93 siege draws criticism

   Branch Davidians contend it was planned part of attack

   02/06/2000

   By Lee Hancock / The Dallas Morning News

   Even in grainy black and white, the snippet of video is riveting: A 
60-ton
   tank lumbers again and again over the back of the Branch Davidian
   compound, shredding a 60-square-foot swath of wall and roof like sodden
   paper.

   Is it a demolition or a mercy mission? Part of the approved plan for 
forcing
   the sect's surrender or a deadly deviation?

   Attorneys representing the Branch Davidians in a federal wrongful-death
   lawsuit argued last week that sending in tanks less than five hours 
after
   agents began tear-gassing the building violated operational orders set 
at the
   highest levels in Washington.

   They told a federal judge that the two FBI commanders who ordered the
   tanks in during the final hours of the 1993 siege near Waco should be
   stripped of normal federal protections and subjected to civil trial by 
jury.
   Such actions are allowed under U.S. law only when officials violate
   government policy or constitutional rights.

   If successful, the motion would set the stage for a full, public review 
of the
   decisions that led to the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound.
   The motion would bring FBI commanders Jeffrey Jamar and Richard
   Rogers into a courtroom for the first time to defend their handling of 
the
   siege.

   Both men have declined repeated requests for interviews.

   It also could bring Attorney General Janet Reno to the center of the 
trial in
   Waco, set to begin in mid-May. Attorneys for the sect say they will
   question her in a videotaped deposition late next month in Washington 
and
   plan to use that testimony at length if U.S. District Judge Walter Smith
   grants their bid to bring the two FBI commanders to trial.

   "She managed to bob and weave in most of the congressional hearings and
   issued some wonderful platitudes, like 'the buck stops here,' " said 
Mike
   Caddell, lead attorney for the sect. "But she never provided any real, 
hard

   answers. I do think that deposition will be an opportunity for 
everybody to
   get some hard answers to tough questions from Janet Reno."

   A spokesman for Ms. Reno and the Justice Department declined to
   comment.

   Questions about straying from the Waco plan could be painful for the FBI
   and for Mr. Rogers, former head of its Hostage Rescue Team, because of
   parallels to another recent deadly situation.

   The bureau drew intense criticism for Mr. Rogers' decision to alter key
   FBI operational rules during the August 1992 standoff with white 
separatist
   Randy Weaver and his family at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. That decision,
   loosening the bureau's policy on use of deadly force, led to the fatal
   shooting of Mr. Weaver's wife, Vicki, by an FBI sniper.

   The government ultimately paid more than $3 million in damages to the
   family, and Mr. Rogers and other senior FBI officials were formally
   reprimanded. One official, Michael Kahoe, went to jail after pleading 
guilty
   to lying about destroying evidence that would have shown that he and
   others - including some of the FBI's decision-makers in the Branch
   Davidian siege - knew of or allowed revised rules of engagement.

   The sniper, FBI Agent Lon Horiuchi, is now a defendant in the Waco
   case, accused of shooting at the Branch Davidian compound, Mount
   Carmel, during the FBI tank-and-tear gas assault. Agent Horiuchi has
   denied that and recently sought to be dropped from the case for what he
   said was a lack of evidence.

   "The message that comes through loud and clear from their actions and
   their testimony is that these people think they're above the law. These
   people believe that they are the law," Mr. Caddell said.

   "What happened both at Ruby Ridge and at Mount Carmel is they decided
   they didn't like the policy formulated by their superiors. So they 
decided to
   change it," said Mr. Caddell, who has raised the issue of FBI lying 
about
   Ruby Ridge at every deposition of FBI agents in the Waco case. "And
   what happened as 

Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Again, it IS common!  And it has happened in front of me at least
10 times!

So, screw what ever is said below cuz I FRICKIN KNOW!



On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Okay, here's the segment of the Tourbus newsletter I got a few weeks ago,
> explaining how the exploding microwaved water phenomenon is extremely
> rare...
>
>
> June
> --
>
> URBAN LEGEND #2: water heated in a microwave oven could possibly
> 'explode' into a steam bubble, causing a scald burn.
>
> Ding-ding-ding.  We have a winner!  It turns out that this urban
> legend is true ... sort of.  It is theoretically possible that water
> heated in a microwave oven could reach temperatures above 100 C
> without turning into steam.  When something is added to this
> superheated water (a tea bag, a spoon, or whatever), the water would
> rapidly change states from water to steam.
>
> Fortunately, this is pretty rare.  So rare, in fact, that you need not
> warn your friends about it.  According to our friend David Emery,
>
>   A search of the medical literature on microwave injuries ...
>   [shows] references to trauma caused by everything from overheated
>   pizza to exploding eggs, but no mentions I could find of serious
>   injury due to surges or explosions of boiling water.
>
> Anyway, if you want to learn more about turbulence and nucleation in
> superheated liquids (whee!), take a look at either
>
> http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/microwav.htm">
> http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/microwav.htm 
>
> or
>
> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/mcurrent.htm">
> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/mcurrent.htm .
>
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[CTRL] Anthrax Vaccine: 60 Minutes Tonight

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On 6 Feb 2000 at 7 pm. Eastern time on CBS, the TV show 60 Minutes will be
airing a piece on the
ill from the anthrax vaccine at Dover AFB; Major Sonnie Bates, who has
stood against the vaccine and refuses to take it; there will 1 person from
each of the 4 flying squadrons at Dover AFB on screen to talk about
their illness and the absolute living hell they have been through
while being treated with contempt and immoral care from the medical monsters
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Re: [CTRL] Hitler-ism or (NWO) New World Order is Suicidal #2

[Robert Tatman]

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At the risk of seeming like an intellectual snob, I have to say that knowing
at least a little Latin helps greatly... Aspirin is "AcetylSALICylic Acid".
The emphasized part of the word, "SALIC", comes from Latin *salix*,
"willow". If you're ever out on a camping trip and find yourself with a
headache, you can chew on willow twigs to relieve it; and a poultice made of
willow bark is very good for injuries such as sprained ankles.

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>
> On 5 Feb 00, at 15:08, ThePiedPiper wrote:
>
> >  think it is from the aspen tree that aspirin is
> > derived.
>
> No, I think it's willow--white willow.
>
>
> sno0wl
>

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[CTRL] Radiation: a health risk to fliers?

[Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard]

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Radiation: a health risk to fliers?

Experts warn of possible link between air travel and cancer

REUTERS

NEW YORK, Feb. 2 — For years, airline passengers have been calling ahead to
check on weather delays. Soon they may also be calling to find out about
radiation levels. “Radiation levels are significantly elevated and you
should seriously consider postponing your trip” is one recording on the
(877) SUNFLARE hotline established by Dr. Robert Barish, founder of
In-Flight Radiation Protection Services Inc.


THE HOTLINE informs callers about possible health risks and at what
times solar storms cause radiation peaks. The call costs $3 and can be
billed to your credit card.
   Radiation from sun exposure is a usually harmless fact of life for
people on the ground, but it can be harmful for people who fly at high
altitudes during solar storm peaks. The storms occur on an irregular basis,
but their frequency is expected to reach a peak this year. They can cause
radiation levels to reach the equivalent of 100-200 chest X-rays an hour at
some times of the year and may pose a health risk even to occasional fliers,
particularly pregnant women, Barish says.
   Dr. Donald Hudson, an aviation medicine adviser for the Air Line
Pilots Association (ALPA), agrees that heightened radiation from solar
storms can pose health risks.
   “Most airlines are aware of that, and many who fly polar routes
rather than continental routes make flight adjustments,” he said. “But it is
difficult to predict the peak times. The science is just not where we would
like it to be.”


HEALTH RISKS TO FREQUENT FLIERS

For frequent business fliers or airline flight crews who fly more
than 75,000 miles a year, regular radiation exposure may pose greater
long-term health risks, Barish says.
   “If you fly a minimum of 75,000 miles a year, that brings you to a
level where radiation exceeds the legal permissible radiation dose to a
non-occupational person (a person who is not officially classified as a
radiation worker).”
   Even under normal conditions, radiation levels on an airplane at high
altitudes are higher than on the ground. The atmosphere absorbs cosmic
radiation, but six or seven miles of protective air are below a plane, not
above it.
   The FAA estimates that the risks of a birth defect in the fetus of a
pregnant woman who flies range from 1 in 680 to 1 in 20,000, depending on
frequency and routes flown. This is a 0.5 percent increase over the
nonfliers’ rate of birth defects, a statement from ALPA associate
aeromedical adviser Hudson says.
   “The risk for cancer from low-dose radiation is very low except for
female crew members in childbearing age. But unfortunately that risk to the
fetus is most severe in the first trimester, when women often don’t know yet
that they are pregnant,” he said.
   This information has often not been communicated to airline crews,
who fly far more than 75,000 miles a year and who are most frequently
exposed to the harmful rays at high altitudes.
   “I was angry and frustrated,” said a flight attendant at a major
U.S.-based airline who did not want to be named. She saw an informational
pamphlet about in-flight radiation at a crew room in an airport last year.
“I never knew about this issue. We were never informed about radiation and
health risks,” she said, adding, “We need to be able to make informed
decisions.”
   Occupational radiation exposure allowed by law, such as for nuclear
power plant workers or employees in medical fields who work with X-ray
machines, is 50 times greater than the normal exposure on the ground — 50
milisievert in the United States and 20 milisievert in Europe.
   Airline crew members and frequent-flier business travelers are
usually not exposed to more than the occupational limit, but their bodies
certainly have to handle more than the ground limit exposure for the general
public, Barish said.
   Hudson says the risk of radiation-related illnesses, particularly
cancer, is very low for airline crews, but he believes concerns about
in-flight radiation-related illness will be a more publicized issue in 10 to
20 years when aircraft are expected to travel at much higher altitudes.
   “I think most pilots are aware of radiation exposure, but this is
just not a front-burner-type topic for today’s commercial airlines. It is
more of an issue for the Concorde and corporate Lear Jets who fly higher
than today’s commercial airlines,” Hudson said. “But exposure to low-dose
radiation will definitely become an issue when commercial aircraft will fly
in higher altitudes in 10, 20 years.”

RADIATION TRAINING
   But Barish has been fighting for more information flow among airlines
and the business community so people can make an informed choice about their
health and safety.
   “Even though the FAA has issued advisories to airline officials in
which they requested air

Re: [CTRL] IT'S STILL THE REAGAN BOOM (fwd)

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It's a boom for the Oligarchy, the fatcats at the top of the heap, and a
bust for everyone else. We have been fed a large helping of bullshit about
the "long economic expansion in the U.S. history." The "expansion" has been
largely on paper. It's a sham. It's no more real than the "increase in
wealth" generated by stock market manipulations. All those people who have
invested their retirement funds in 401(k) accounts, and who drool over the
"increase in value" of their stocks, will be in for a nasty surprise when
they take a look at how much those stocks are *earning*. Price/earning
ratios are out of control, and sooner rather than later the whole house of
cards is going to come crashing down on all of our heads.

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>
> > New York Post-February 4, 2000
> >
> > IT'S STILL THE REAGAN BOOM
> >
> > By LAWRENCE KUDLOW and STEPHEN MOORE
> >
> > THIS week America crosses one of its great economic milestones,
> > breaking the record for the longest expansion in U.S. history.
> > But this isn't exactly sweet vindication for Clintonomics: The
> > politician most responsible for laying the groundwork for this
> > prosperous era is Ronald Reagan.
>
> Yeah, tell all the victims of 'downsizing', and all those people
> working two and three jobs to make up for the one that moved to
> Mexico, that we're in such an economic 'boom'
>
>
> June
>

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[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] Did the U.S. Government Actually Create Programmed Assassins?

[Kris Millegan]

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Project MKULTRA:

Did the U.S. Government Actually Create Programmed Assassins?

By Curt Rowlett






(All Rights Reserved; this article may not be reproduced in whole or in part
without the express permission of the author).






Call Waiting

One of my favorite movies is the 1970's spy thriller Telefon. In this film,
the KGB has hypnotized Russian agents to carry out assassinations and acts
of terrorism, prior to committing suicide on completion of their programmed
mission. All of this takes place without the programmed subjects having any
knowledge that they are mind-controlled. These individuals have been
programmed to react when the lines of a Robert Frost poem are recited to
them over the telephone. Placed all over America as "sleepers," these
robot-assassins live out their lives believing they are ordinary Americans,
until the fateful moment when the telephone rings and a voice begins to
recite, "The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep
and miles to go before I sleep. Remember, comrade, miles to go before you
sleep".

Pure Hollywood fantasy about a paranoid conspiracy theory, right?

Yes. No. Maybe.

I admit that I am split on whether or not I really believe in such a thing
as a mind controlled, programmed assassin. A part of me refuses to accept
that this concept is anything more than an irrational fear and a good, but
slightly paranoid, Cold War-type plot for a movie like Telefon.

Then there is another part of me that looks at the information about Project
MKULTRA pried out of the CIA via the Freedom of Information Act and I
somehow can't quite bring myself to dismiss the idea as just mere concept.

We now have substantiated proof that the CIA was working on projects to
control human behavior. And given the history of the agency as revealed in
once classified documents, it is safe to say that the CIA would have had a
great interest in creating the perfect agent: one who didn't know he/she was
an agent. One who was mind-controlled. (In The Control of Candy Jones,
author Donald Bain tells of Candy Jones, a leading New York fashion model
whose story is perhaps one of the best documented cases of successful
mind-control by the CIA via drugs, hypnosis and intensive programming; Ms.
Jones underwent hypnotic regression therapy after exhibiting disturbing
personality shifts and eventually what had happened to her emerged. The
story that unfolded told how Ms. Jones had been programmed by hypnosis to
act as a spy and courier for the CIA in the Far East, all the while in a
deep hypnotic trance. Once the CIA was through with her, she returned to her
former life with absolutely no memory of what had happened to her).

Such a scenario would be plausible denial at it's finest, producing the
ultimate patsy. Consider the following extract from the "Real Story Series"
booklet entitled "Who Killed Robert Kennedy?" by Philip Melanson:

"Since World War II, the US military and the CIA have conducted extensive
research into mind control and its relation to national security...Fearing
that the Russians might produce a "sleeper killer" as a weapon against the
West, the CIA began to pursue research on their own programmed assassin. An
agency memo in January 1954 discussed a "hypothetical problem": "Can an
individual...be made to perform an act of attempted assassination
involuntarily?" Can someone be turned into a "trigger mechanism" that can be
"induced to perform the act of attempted assassination at a later date"? The
target of the attempted assassination was to be "a prominent politician [of
the foreign country] or if necessary, an American official."
Melanson writes further that it would be much easier to create a "patsy"
than to program an assassin and also wrote that hypnosis expert Milton
Kline, a CIA consultant, estimated that he could create such a patsy in as
little as three months.

During their investigation and research into the history of LSD, authors
Martin A. Lee and Bruce Shlain were allowed access to a special reading room
at the Hyatt Regency in Rosslyn, Virginia. Documents pertinent to the CIA's
MKULTRA program were being opened to the public as the result of a Senate
subcommittee led by chairman Senator Ted Kennedy. In the prologue to their
book, Acid Dreams, they write:

In the course of our inquiry we uncovered CIA documents describing
experiments in sensory deprivation, sleep teaching, ESP, subliminal
projection, electronic brain stimulation, and many other methods that might
have applications for behavior modification. One project was designed to
turn people into programmed assassins who would kill on automatic command.
(1)
Most conspiracy researchers are familiar with the CIA's mind control program
MKULTRA. It was led by creepy scientist-spook Dr. Sidney 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Drug Warriors and Their Prey

[Kris Millegan]

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FROM:
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Click Here: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/media/rlmiller.htm">R
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  Drug Warriors and Their Prey
From Police Power to Police State


Richard Lawrence Miller
  Praeger Publishers 1996, ISBN 0-275-95042-5


A Review by Peter Webster





There is a certain difficulty in writing a review of Richard Lawrence
Miller's Drug Warriors and Their Prey, but not because it is a difficult book
in any usual sense. On the contrary, it is disarmingly easy to understand the
author's every implication. Yet the theme of Mr. Miller's essay, a point by
point comparison of the reality of Drug Prohibition in the United States
today with exactly analogous situations leading up to Hitler's Third Reich
and the attempted destruction of the Jewish people, is certain to repulse the
very readers who need most to understand that, indeed, it can happen again.
Thus the book, and any honest review of it, might achieve little more than
preaching to the converted: those who can readily accept its main thesis must
already be active in resisting not just the "worst excesses" of the War on
Drugs, but the entire and historically-proven futility of the very concept of
Prohibition as a means to advantageous ends.

Not that Hitler and the Reich's atrocities are too distasteful for public
examination and discourse, far from it! Americans, and to a lesser degree,
Europeans, continue to watch with relish and fascination each new television
episode depicting Hitler and his cohorts, continue to make best-sellers of
both fiction and non-fiction tomes about the Reich, and we see many educators
and intellectuals insisting that the morbid details of Hitlerism be widely
taught in the schools so that we may "never again" fall into the trap which
ensnared the post World-War-One German nation. Equally atrocious episodes as
the Nazi reign (at least with respect to relative population size), which
have more recently occurred in Vietnam and Cambodia, or in East Timor,
Rwanda, Yugoslavia, to mention but a few, are given short shrift by producers
of documentaries and consumers of such "entertainment," and ignored in
classrooms as potential "never again" object lessons. Even more glaringly,
America continues to largely ignore the implications of an even more
successful genocide which American Policy, assisted by American Congresses
and Politicians of the highest stature, committed over a period far longer
than the Reich's brief existence: the eradication of Native American
populations. A recent book which rightly dared to call that eradication a
holocaust, was indignantly denounced by many "intellectuals."

Hitler and his image have clearly become a modern scapegoat through which
we attempt to psychologically expunge collective guilt for our own
atrocities, past and present, as well as for those other atrocities which we
do nothing, or very little, to prevent or stop. There is plenty of
evil-reeking film footage of Hitler's life and times which when watched, with
their pompous and cymbal-crashing military tunes, and their images of "the
bad guys" far surpassing anything that Hollywood can invent, become the
perfect medium for our unfortunate proclivity to hate. And to do so
collectively in a way which seems correct and proper. The evil image of
Hitler and his deeds provides catharsis for the sins we care not to
recognize, dare not recognize, and allows a continuation of a status quo
which is fertile ground for allowing hate to produce once again the very
situation from which inevitably rise the most glaringly evil aspects of our
modern world.

If we can see from these observations why many a reader will close his
mind to Mr. Miller's thesis, or perhaps merely look at the dust jacket and
replace Drug Warriors on its bookstore shelf, it is nevertheless quite
necessary and effective to compare the American-led War on Drugs with events
in 1930's Germany. As Mr. Miller readily shows, it is not with the
after-the-fact evil image of "The Great Dictator" that current parallels
correspond, but rather with the actions of individual and ordinary Germans,
their daily life, the ease with which they fell into that horrible trap, and
the actions of police, mayors, governors and administrators, the deeds and
"researches" of doctors and scientists, the judgments of the courts, the
facile way in which the Jewish people were ensnared in "The Chain of
Destruction : Identification, Ostracism, Confiscation, Concentration, and
Annihilation." Before 1939, when it became painfully obvious to every person
on earth what the Führer was up to, it was equally as difficult as now to see
the inevitable course of events which follows from the first principles of
fascism. Many in the United States and England praised

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE EU'S THREAT TOWARD AUSTRIA

[Bob Stokes]

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In a message dated 00-02-05 19:07:42 EST, Sno0wl write:

<< She also seems to suggest that immigration is a dangerous policy
 and that only homogenous communities within nations support
 social order. (Which is facist thinking to me-- Hitler would certainly
 agree with her).>>

Immigration has been used in this nation to create upheaval.  Seems to me our
government imports problems.  They talk about terrorism although the only
terrorism I see is from the government, or at least government sponsored.  If
they were really worried about terrorism from Arab-type people, why would
they import so many.  I also get the feeling they do not care how many
illegal aliens come across the border from central and South America and how
unwilling they are to learn even small amounts of English ... the language of
the U.S.  I even wonder about those "boat people" (criminals) from Cuba
somany years ago ... was this planned with Castro?

<< Is she also saying that when nations and their economies are
 destroyed by war or natural catastrophe, making it impossible for
 people to live and survive there, people must stay where they were
 born, even if means death?>>

Aren't those people ultimately responsible for "wars" in their country?  When
it comes down to it, aren't we responsible for all the meddling of our
country in the affairs of other sovereign countries.  We will be held
accountable for it because we supposedly elect our politicians.  Will we be
able to immigrate to another country?  I doubt it.

 <>

Could you name some of these great societies?

 << However, this charming area seems to hide a
 hotbed of contention under a deceivingly smooth surface since two
 world wars have been ignited from that region.>>

Actually WWI was started by a terrorist act and then things got out of hand
in a big way.  WWII was a continuation of the same war ... if England,
France, the U.S. had stopped Hitler when he started to re-arm Germany ...
WWII may not have happened, but that would require leaders who work for the
people, not a collection of elites who hold the purse strings to nations.

<< The movement of populations has altered civilization throughout the
 known history of the world and is essentially unstoppable. And
 some would say that periods of greater movement are tied to
 periods of significant seismic upheaval--a part of our organic
 evolution and development, as it were, for better or for worse.
 sno0wl >>

Are you saying that wars (upheavals) are productive?  The elites think there
are limited resources to support life, is that the reason they want wars ...
to leave more of these supposedly limited resources for them?  I don't think
stirring the pot is always a good thing.  It would be more productive to stir
the pot counter-clockwise and have the peasants kill the elites for a change,
such is my opinion.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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[CTRL] (Fwd) SFTT/VOTG Special Mailing

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*
** VOICE OF THE GRUNT
**
**  "ANTHRAX SPECIAL"
**
"When we assumed the Soldier, we did not lay aside the Citizen."
   General George Washington, New York Legislature, 17751

   Soldiers For The Truth, PO Box 63840, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-3840

04 February 2000
***
TABLE OF CONTENTS  ARTICLES

Anthrax Vaccine Is A Force Protection Facade 1
Anthrax, a Force Protection Requirement 2
Another Anthrax Prisoner.   3
===
WHY THIS "SPECIAL?"
~
The Anthrax crisis continues.  Every day more troops are refusing the
shots.  Every Day SFTT receives more mail from concerned parents that their
children have become political prisoners for an ill-conceived force protection
policy.

As a former commander, I must admit that I received some calls where
service members had misrepresented their own situations to their relatives
and claimed that the Army was "railroading" them.  Surprisingly enough
however, once I explained the situation honestly and openly, 99% of all the
people I talked to accepted my explanations, even if it meant admitting the
soldier's fault.

What it took was openness and honesty!  Maybe that's where the Defense
Department is failing miserably. When is the public going to get some
straight answers?

Young Americans join the Forces to defend our nation and not to be
lab-rats. While The Pentagon and our politicians struggle over the truth
with a more concerned public, many troops are becoming political prisoners
of an overzealous chain of command.

Maybe the best solution would be to freeze the Anthrax craze and provide
scientifically researched honest answers as soon as possible.  Also, a
determined National policy that declares the United States willing to use
appropriate retaliatory means, including limited nuclear strikes, could
prevent an impending bio-warfare race that will only benefit an
ever-growing pharmaceutical industry.
===
ARTICLE 1
~~~
 Anthrax Vaccine Is A Force Protection Facade
~~~
Ed.:  A Special To The Hartford Courant, on 20 Jan 00. The article
questions if the Pentagon is hyping up the possibility of an impending
bio-warfare race.

By Thomas L. Rempfer and Russell E. Dingle

January 20, 2000

Two years ago, Secretary of Defense William Cohen announced the Anthrax
Vaccine Immunization Program for all service members. The policy was an
effort to protect our nation's armed forces from the threat of inhaled
anthrax produced by a biological weapon.

The vaccine was approved in 1970 for limited use to protect veterinarians
and animal industry workers. The approval of this vaccine was based on a
study of a different anthrax formulation found to be protective for topical or
skin exposure to the disease.

The FDA has consistently found that no meaningful assessment has been made
of the vaccine's effectiveness in humans against inhalation anthrax.
Additionally, the General Accounting Office reported that the long-term
safety of the vaccine has not yet been studied.

To date, only about 15 percent of the military has received vaccinations,
while hundreds have been discharged, punished or court-martialed for
refusing.

The Defense Department's anthrax vaccination policy started as our troops
deployed once again to draw a line in the sand when Saddam Hussein ejected
U.N. weapons inspectors from Iraq in late 1997. Simultaneously, senior
Department of Defense officials were challenged as to how they would
protect the troops from Saddam's arsenal of weapons of mass destruction.

On Dec. 15, 1997, the Pentagon responded by holding a press briefing using
an anonymous spokesman to herald the decades-old anthrax vaccine as a
lifesaver for U.S. troops. The spokesman was asked if this was a step
toward a worldwide biological arms race? His answer was: ``I don't know. It
could be, but I'm not prepared to answer that.''

Needless to say, this dubious doctrinal shift signals a troubling tacit
acceptance of weapons outlawed by international treaties. Coupled with an
apparent lack of a coherent deterrence strategy, this trend could undermine
decades of inter

[CTRL] [NA] CNN's Greenfield, Others Hedge on Polls

[lloyd]

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..

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Subject: [NA] CNN's Greenfield, Others Hedge on Polls
Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:01 AM

www.networkamerica.org

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin

January 31, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire

CNN's Greenfield, Others Hedge on Polls one Day before 2000 NH Primary

Very short message today. On Monday night, January 31, 2000 Jeff
Greenfield, Bill Schneider and other commentators were making a big deal
out of how volatile the New Hampshire electorate is and how we would
just have to wait for the voters to speak in the New Hampshire Primary.
In other words, as we noted yesterday, they were hedging their bets on
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Re: [CTRL] [MC] Mind Control & Abduction Reports?

[TenebrousT]

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In a message dated 2/5/00 3:08:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

>
>   3. Vallee school - A variation holds the beings are friendly, eg a
>   recent book by a former LA Times editor. Vallee school holds that an
>   inter-dimensional Intelligence is mind-contolling humanity by
>   phenomena including abductions.
>
>   My own feelings are that Alien abduction reports are largely human Mind
>   Control artefacts.  What do researchers on this list feel about Mind
>   Control and reports of Alien Abductions?  Do you have any theories,
>   research, thoughts you's like to share? Please don't hold back; I know
>   you are out there.;)
>
>   Thanks, Alfred

I belong to the "MILAB school", as you have classified it.  SOME alien
abduction and recovered memories associated with this are the result of
illegal, and immoral mind control programs being run by all too human
perpetrators against unwitting people.  However there is also something else
at work as well, and could be said to be an underlying "Jungian view" of
archetypes and societal evolution or evolution of the collective unconscious.
 This is where the views in popular culture are assimilated into the
collective unconscious and become new archetypes or transform old ones to new
forms thus becoming part of our perceived reality.  Simplified it could be
said that since this phenomenon has become such a big part of accepted
reality it has been assimilated into our unconscious minds and has a life of
its own that enables people to project unexplainable events onto a "known"
source, thus they are psychological artifacts.

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vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
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Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water to Heat it Up

[Foxter]

I believe Peter would not 
lie, that is proof enough for me.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ynr Chyldz 
  Wyld 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 12:41 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water to 
  Heat it Up
  -Caveat Lector-    -Cui Bono?-Show us the 
  proof that this happened.June- Original Message 
  -From: "earthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: 
  Saturday, February 05, 2000 10:08 PMSubject: Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water 
  to Heat it Up> -Caveat Lector-   >  -Cui Bono?->> 
  June,> My niece only recently, had a microwaved coffee blow up on her. 
  She was> lucky that asteroid missed.>> 
  Peter>> We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard> http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift> 
  - Original Message -> From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
  Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 6:56 AM> Subject: Re: [CTRL] 
  Microwaving Water to Heat it Up>>> > -Caveat 
  Lector-   > > 
   -Cui Bono?-> >> > From: "Bill Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > -Caveat 
  Lector-> >> > "Caveat Lector" indeed> 
  >> > If I can dig it up, I'll post the URL which talks about 
  this> > well-known urban legend...> >> > Suffice 
  it to say, the chances of getting a scalding bubble> > to burst in 
  your face after microwaving a mug of water, are> > extremely rare, 
  indeed.  You have a better chance of having> > an asteroid land 
  on you> >> >> > June  ;-)> 
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[CTRL] Bush Family Drug Money

[William Shannon]

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 -Cui Bono?-

THE REPUTED COCAINE BANK MONEY LAUNDRY WIZARD FOR GEORGE BUSH FAMILY ARRESTED
IN CHICAGO

by Sherman H. Skolnick


--
--

The reputed cocaine bank money laundry wizard for former President George
Herbert Walker Bush and two of his sons has been arrested in Chicago. The
matter is tied as well reportedly to corrupt top IRS Officials, Chicago
Region Office fingered by our work.

Giorgio Pelossi, a prominent Swiss accountant, was arrested January 20, 2000,
at O'Hare International Airport, after officials of the U.S. Immigration and
Naturalization Service, INS,found he was wanted on an international arrest
warrant issued in Milan, Italy, about a year previous. Pelossi, 61, was
somehow actually traveling under his own name. His name showed up on a
passenger manifest in a routine check provided to officials of the INS.[Savvy
sources, however, dispute that it was so "routine" but was rather a follow up
of matters outlined in our TV documentary, 11/29/99.]

In his appearance before a Federal Magistrate in Chicago, Pelossi agreed not
to oppose being sent back to Italy by extradition. Pelossi signed papers in
Chicago's Federal District Court waiving his right to a hearing in Chicago.

Pelossi is reportedly the cocaine bank money laundry expert for the former
president and two of his sons, Texas Governor George W. Bush and Florida
Governor Jeb Bush. Some claim that the matter also reportedly implicates the
other son, Neil Bush, who escaped federal prison through a reputedly corrupt
arrangement upon the downfall of Denver-based Silverado Savings & Loan
Association, an apparent CIA proprietary operation of which Neil Bush was an
official. Some contend Silverado, at the hands of Neil Bush, was likewise a
money laundry for illicit funds including reportedly narcotics trafficking.
For a year or more now, journalists and commentators in Spain have been
writing and talking about the Elder Bush and two of his sons, George W. and
Jeb, being reportedly implicated in billions of dollars of dope money
laundered through banks in Spain, Italy, Mexico, and the United States. The
cocaine banking cartel, for which Pelossi reportedly was the kingpin and
brains, was centered in Milan and Barcelona. According to stories, some
date-lined Rome, in December, 1995, by Reuters, United Press International,
and other news and law enforcement personnel, Italian authorities contended
they had proof leading them to assert that the Archbishop of Barcelona was
implicated with the Vatican Bank and others in a vast money laundry ring
reportedly involving, among others:

[1] FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF CICERO (a Chicago suburb, Al Capone Land, a
long-known mafia enclave). Later it became the flagship of PINNACLE BANC
GROUP. Still later, to confuse matters, the bank was called Old Kent Bank, a
unit whose head office is Grand Rapids, Michigan. Pinnacle was the successor
and alter ego to the mysterious, scandal-wrecked, BANK OF CREDIT AND COMMERCE
INTERNATIONAL, which supposedly (although not actually) went under in 1991.
BCCI was a reputed assassination and espionage funding apparatus for various
intelligence agencies, including the American CIA, the French CIA, and
Israel's The Mossad (The Institute).

Bishop Paul Marcinkus, head of the VATICAN BANK until 1991, was also the
dominant force controlling First National Bank of Cicero. Marcinkus was
originally from Cicero and ran a church there. Marcinkus fled the Vatican,
sheltering himself with his Vatican passport, when Italian authorities sought
to grill him and possibly prosecute him for various criminal offenses he
reportedly committed as Vatican Bank chief. He returned to the U.S. and lives
in Sun City, Arizona.

[2] Roger D'Onofrio, an American CIA official, with dual citizenship, U.S.
and Italy, living near Naples, Italy. Italian authorities, in the wire
service and other stories of December, 1995, described him as the CIA's
secret paymaster in Italy, to fund political assassinations of those not
liked by the American CIA, and to pay-off or destroy opposition parties in
the Italian government.

The Pelossi-Marcinkus-D'Onofrio ring reportedly, through Vatican Bank and
other financial institutions, trafficked in smuggled gold, osmium nuclear
bomb triggers, high quality counterfeit foreign currencies, and other illicit
goods and services. With the corrupt connivance of top officials of the
INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, Chicago Region office, Pelossi reportedly arranged
the laundering of billions of dollars through concealed and dummy accounts,
reportedly in the following banks, among others; and for and on behalf
reportedly of George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, and the Elder Bush, their father:

HARRIS BANK OF CHICAGO, and their Foreign Exchange section, called ForEx, a
unit of BANK OF MONTREAL owned principally by the whiskey-soaked BRONFMAN
FAMILY [SEAGRAMS booze, Cineplex Odeon movie the

Re: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

[Foxter]

Just because it is rare does 
not make it an urban legend.  There's no correlation.
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ynr Chyldz 
  Wyld 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 12:48 
  PM
  Subject: [CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban 
  Legend
  -Caveat Lector-    -Cui Bono?-Okay, here's 
  the segment of the Tourbus newsletter I got a few weeks ago,explaining how 
  the exploding microwaved water phenomenon is 
  extremelyrare...June--URBAN 
  LEGEND #2: water heated in a microwave oven could possibly'explode' into a 
  steam bubble, causing a scald burn.Ding-ding-ding.  We have a 
  winner!  It turns out that this urbanlegend is true ... sort 
  of.  It is theoretically possible that waterheated in a microwave 
  oven could reach temperatures above 100 Cwithout turning into steam.  
  When something is added to thissuperheated water (a tea bag, a spoon, or 
  whatever), the water wouldrapidly change states from water to 
  steam.Fortunately, this is pretty rare.  So rare, in fact, that 
  you need notwarn your friends about it.  According to our friend 
  David Emery,  A search of the medical 
  literature on microwave injuries ...  [shows] 
  references to trauma caused by everything from 
  overheated  pizza to exploding eggs, but no 
  mentions I could find of serious  injury due 
  to surges or explosions of boiling water.Anyway, if you want to learn 
  more about turbulence and nucleation insuperheated liquids (whee!), take a 
  look at eitherhttp://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/microwav.htm 
  orhttp://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/mcurrent.htm 
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Re: [CTRL] A Gal Needs A Gun by Ed Parker

[Foxter]

This raises a point that a 
Texas woman with a gun is not an aberration but one from the Bronx would 
be.  There should be no difference.
 
I am proud as punch that the 
Phoenix lady (l) knew her rights and (2) had the estrogen to protect them.  
I agree she should be exalted as a role model for us.
 
I am a Christian, I believe in 
"Jesus AND", for I need Jesus AND a job, I need Jesus AND a parking space 
...   If I was in a third world country I would need Jesus AND other 
things, perhaps food and shelter.
 
Peace to 
all.

Re: [CTRL] IT'S STILL THE REAGAN BOOM (fwd)

[TenebrousT]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 2/5/00 10:00:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> > New York Post-February 4, 2000
>  >
>  > IT'S STILL THE REAGAN BOOM
>  >
>  > By LAWRENCE KUDLOW and STEPHEN MOORE
>  >
>  > THIS week America crosses one of its great economic milestones,
>  > breaking the record for the longest expansion in U.S. history.
>  > But this isn't exactly sweet vindication for Clintonomics: The
>  > politician most responsible for laying the groundwork for this
>  > prosperous era is Ronald Reagan.
>
>  Yeah, tell all the victims of 'downsizing', and all those people
>  working two and three jobs to make up for the one that moved to
>  Mexico, that we're in such an economic 'boom'
>
>
>  June
>

This has to be the GREATEST Urban Legend of recent years.  The "economic
boom" is something that we are always being told about but like the Loch Ness
Monster it fails to register on my radar or in my experience even though I
make a thorough search for it.  I guess we could say that we are experiencing
a new "trickle up" economy where all benefits are accrued by the already rich
and powerful at the expence of those who actually do the grunt work.  But
that is something I am not equipped to investigate having to work overtime to
pay the bills. . . .

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***
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"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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Re: [CTRL] FLASH - Drudge on Bush Payroll? (fwd)

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 02/05/2000 10:14:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< "The problem is that they are
 so silly and over the top that the one who ends up being
 discredited is Drudge himself. This is real college prankster
 stuff and I don't think that Bush is getting his monies worth if
 in fact investigators do turn up a financial connection." >>


It's probably a promise that if Bush is elected, he'll invite Drudge for a
weekend in the Lincoln Bedroom.  After all, his father rewarded Rush Limbaugh
in that way.  I don't believe any money changed hands, but Rush was sure
elated.  One way or another that Lincoln Bedroom is for rent.  Clinton needs
money, but the millionnaire Bush family just needs media connections.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] FBI Details Democratic Fund-Raising Abuses--LATimes (fwd)

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In a message dated 02/05/2000 9:58:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< Investigators were so concerned that a major fund-raiser, with
 such apparent ease, could circumvent presidential security that
 LaBella briefed Atty. Gen. Janet Reno. "She took it very
 seriously, too," he recalled.

 The Times could not confirm whether the Secret Service was ever
 informed that its officers had admitted a White House visitor
 with false identification.

 Secret Service spokesman Jim Mackin said: "We're not going to
 comment on what information may or may not have been passed to
 us." Kennedy said the White House does not comment on any
 security matters. >>

For a long time I wondered why Haley Barbour held those fund raisers in the
Far East.  Now I know why.  Obviously if you let them give money while in the
United States, it is illegal, but if you get it on foreign shores, it's okay.
 The rules in this engagement are very difficult to understand.  Maybe it's
just that you keep them where the FBI isn't supposed to be investigating.
It's all so weird.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE EU'S THREAT TOWARD AUSTRIA

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The choice she gives us neo-Naziism OR NWO. Is there really a
> difference between them? Seems like a matter of heads I win, tails
> you lose.

The CHOICE is in accepting what any group of people decide to elect
as their own choice of government in a democratically held election...
irregardless of how distasteful such a government may be to us...


> Through history it has been demonstrated that great societies and
> civilizations arise where multi-ethnicity and multi-nationalism thrive.

Like Japan?  ;-)


June

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[CTRL] WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD?

[William Shannon]

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WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD?
by David Icke
Official history is merely a veil to hide the truth of what really happened.
When the veil is lifted, again and again we see that not only is the official
version not true, it is often 100% wrong.

Take the Rothschilds, the bloodline formerly known, among other names, as the
Bauers, one of the most notorious black occult bloodlines of Middle Ages
Germany. It became known as Rothschild (red-shield or rotes-schild in German)
in the 18th century when a financial dynasty was founded in Frankfurt by
Mayer Amschel Rothschild working in league with the Illuminati House of Hesse
and others. They took their name from the red shield or hexagram/Star of
David on the front of their house in Frankfurt. The Star of David or Seal of
Solomon is an ancient esoteric symbol and only became associated with Jewish
people after the Rothschilds adopted it for themselves. It has absolutely no
connection to "David" or "Solomon", as Jewish historical sources confirm. The
Rothschilds are one of the top Illuminati bloodlines on the planet and they
are shape-shifting reptilians (see The Biggest Secret).

Guy de Rothschild, of the French House, heads this bloodline dynasty today.
He is one of the most grotesque exponents of trauma-based mind control,
indeed the top man according to many of those who have suffered mercilessly
under his torture. I am always loath to use the world evil, but if evil is
the reverse of live, Guy de Rothschild is thoroughly evil. He stands for the
opposite of life. He has been personally responsible for the torture and
death of millions of children and adults, either directly or through those he
controls. He conducts satanic rituals, as all these bloodlines have always
done, and goodness knows how many human sacrifices he has been involved in.

If what I am saying is wrong, Guy de Rothschild, then take me to court and
lets reveal the evidence. You are a multi-billionaire and you control the
courts and the media. I have next to nothing. I should, therefore, be a
pushover. So come on, Mr. Rothschild, lets have you. Lets take these claims
into the public arena and have you and me in the witness box. Make my day.

Already I can hear the clamor gathering to condemn me as "anti-semitic"
because the Rothschilds claim to be "Jewish." Organisations like the
Anti-Defamation League and B'nai B'rith have already made strenuous efforts
to label me in this way for exposing the Rothschilds and to stop me speaking
in public. (See elsewhere on this website) How funny then that both
organisations were created by, and continue to be bankrolled by, the
Rothschilds. Just a co-incidence, nothing to worry about. B'nai Brith means,
appropriately, "Sons of the Alliance" and was established by the Rothschilds
in 1843 as an intelligence arm and to defame and destroy legitimate
researchers with the label "anti semitic." Many of their speakers openly
supported slavery during the American Civil War and today they seek to
condemn some black leaders as "anti-semitic" or "racist! Every year, the Anti
Defamation League award their "Torch of Liberty" (the classic Illuminati
symbol) to the person they believe has served their cause the most. One year
they gave it to Morris Dalitz, an intimate of the notorious Meyer Lansky
crime syndicate which terrorised America. Perfect choice.

Of course, the strength of feeling that fans the flames of condemnation
against anyone dubbed "anti-semitic" today is the sickening persecution of
Jewish people by the Nazis of Adolf Hitler. To expose or question the actions
of the Rothschilds or any other Jewish person or organisation is to be called
a "nazi" and "anti-semitic", that all-encompassing label which has
discredited so many researchers and stopped them having the opportunity to
speak in public because of protest by unthinking robot radicals and the
refusal of venues to host their meetings. I have had this from time to time,
not least in eastern Canada thanks to a campaign by B'nai B'rith and the
Anti-Defamation League (which spends it's entire time trying to defame
people). Both organisations, I repeat, are Rothschild created and controlled.

How strange then, that as I have documented in And The Truth Shall Set You
Free and The Biggest Secret, along with endless other researchers and
scholars, Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were created and funded by…the
Rothschilds. It was they who arranged for Hitler to come to power through the
Illuminati secret societies in Germany like the Thule Society and the Vril
Society which they created through their German networks; it was the
Rothschilds who funded Hitler through the Bank of England and other British
and American sources like the Rothschild's Kuhn, Loeb, bank which also funded
the Russian Revolution.

The very heart of Hitler's war machine was the chemical giant, I.G. Farben,
which had an American arm that was controlled by the Rothschilds through
their lackeys, the War

Re: [CTRL] Why did the Egyptians cancelled the most dramatic ceremony of the Millennium ?

[Alamaine]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Maybe because they realised the 'millennium' doesn't really start for another
329 days?  Or, so say the Naval Observatory and some other time experts.
A<>E<>R

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Re: [CTRL] Hitler-ism or (NWO) New World Order is Suicidal #2

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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Yes, aspirin was derived from the bark of the white willow tree.

I still prefer natural white willow for pain relief than aspirin...white
willow doesn't aggravate the stomach like aspirin does...

June


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> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> On 5 Feb 00, at 15:08, ThePiedPiper wrote:
>
> >  think it is from the aspen tree that aspirin is
> > derived.
>
> No, I think it's willow--white willow.
>
>
> sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] MANNA FROM HEAVEN

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Hey, I'm on your side...I hardly think that whatever manna was, it was any
form of mushroom.

Remember, the Bible also says this stuff went bad if the Israelites tried to
save it, and it disappeared once the sun got fairly high in the sky...

June

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
> >
> >Nope.
>
>
> OK, let's take a poll. Has anybody here ever picked 'shrooms in the
> desert? What kind?
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[CTRL] Microwaved Water Urban Legend

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Okay, here's the segment of the Tourbus newsletter I got a few weeks ago,
explaining how the exploding microwaved water phenomenon is extremely
rare...


June
--

URBAN LEGEND #2: water heated in a microwave oven could possibly
'explode' into a steam bubble, causing a scald burn.

Ding-ding-ding.  We have a winner!  It turns out that this urban
legend is true ... sort of.  It is theoretically possible that water
heated in a microwave oven could reach temperatures above 100 C
without turning into steam.  When something is added to this
superheated water (a tea bag, a spoon, or whatever), the water would
rapidly change states from water to steam.

Fortunately, this is pretty rare.  So rare, in fact, that you need not
warn your friends about it.  According to our friend David Emery,

  A search of the medical literature on microwave injuries ...
  [shows] references to trauma caused by everything from overheated
  pizza to exploding eggs, but no mentions I could find of serious
  injury due to surges or explosions of boiling water.

Anyway, if you want to learn more about turbulence and nucleation in
superheated liquids (whee!), take a look at either

http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/microwav.htm">
http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/microwav.htm 

or

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/mcurrent.htm">
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/mcurrent.htm .

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Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water to Heat it Up

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> What in the world would make you think this phenomenon is rare?

Because it's been covered on any number of urban legend sites...


> THE ONLY reason I can think is that you, and most, are in a
> hurry, i.e., "watching the pot for it to boil," and often stop
> the oven to see if what ever it is that you are heating is
> warm/hot enough yet, thus NOT ALLOWING WHAT EVER IT IS TO
> SUPERHEAT.

Actually, I rarely boil water in the microwave...and the rare times I have,
the window in the door gave me an adequate view of what was happening to the
water.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Microwaving Water to Heat it Up

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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Show us the proof that this happened.

June

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> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
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>
> June,
> My niece only recently, had a microwaved coffee blow up on her. She was
> lucky that asteroid missed.
>
> Peter
>
> We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
> http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> >
> > From: "Bill Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > "Caveat Lector" indeed
> >
> > If I can dig it up, I'll post the URL which talks about this
> > well-known urban legend...
> >
> > Suffice it to say, the chances of getting a scalding bubble
> > to burst in your face after microwaving a mug of water, are
> > extremely rare, indeed.  You have a better chance of having
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> > June  ;-)
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Re: [CTRL] Why did the Egyptians cancelled the most dramatic ceremony of the Millennium ?

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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 -Cui Bono?-

From: "Colleen Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well the biggest mystery to me is this; what is the pyramid but a big
> heap of rocks.falling apart,

Hardly falling apart.

And it's a heap of rocks that's identifiable from the moon.  It's a heap of
rocks built along exacting geometrical and astronomical alignments.


>and during WWII someone shot the nose off the Sphinx

Nope.  The Sphinx was pretty well vandalized over the centuries by various
Moslem
tribes, who felt it (and the Great Pyramid, which they also vandalized) came
from
the time of the infidels, and so didn't deserve to be respected and
preserved...

When Napoleon arrived in the early 19th century, only the head of the Sphinx
was
visable above the sands of the desert, and his soldiers utilized it for
target
practice, and are the ones credited for giving it it's final definitive nose
job...

Not to say that it wasn't used for target practice in WWII (also in WWI),
but the
nose was long gone by then...

Once again, you display your shabby knowledge of history...


> I hope I contributed my share at the pyramids..for if it is not safe
> for me to party in Seattle or in New York,

Well, New York's New Year's party went on, without a hitch, didn't it?


> Well I remember the Shah of Iran had a John made of solid gold.

And Tammy Faye Baker and her husband built million dollar doghouses complete
with solid gold plumbing fixtures...so what's your point?


June

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[CTRL] "..four Bible verses, ..violates homosexuals' human rights."

[Bard]

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2206_xex_bible_trial.shtml
  SUNDAY
FEBRUARY 6
  2000


  TESTING THE FAITH
  Bible on trial
  Rebellion brewing against
  Canada's pro-'gay' ruling


  By Julie Foster
  © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

  A decision is months overdue on a complaint
  brought against a Saskatchewan newspaper and
  one of its advertisers by the province's Human
  Rights Commission for printing an ad,
  consisting of four Bible verses, which the
  commission says violates homosexuals' human
  rights.

  Though a decision is expected any day,
  defenders of the ad say the case will surely
  make its way to the Canadian Supreme Court.

  The case originated from complaints made by
  three homosexual men who saw the ad in the
  Saskatoon StarPhoenix. Paid for by Hugh
  Owens, the ad displayed citations of four Bible
  verses on the left, an equal sign and a picture of
  two male stick figures holding hands inside the
  international symbol for "no" on the right. It ran
  June 30, 1997.

  Each complaint letter asserted Owens'
  advertisement "tends to restrict the enjoyment of
  rights which I am entitled to under the law, and
  exposes me to hatred and otherwise affronts my
  dignity because of my sexual orientation,
  contrary to Section 14 of the Saskatchewan
  Human Rights Code."

  That code prohibits publication and radio and
  television broadcasts of "any statement or other
  representation" that offends any individual or
  group based on "race, creed, religion, color, sex,
  sexual orientation, family status, marital status,
  disability, age, nationality, place of origin or
  receipt of public assistance."

  Two years later, in August 1999, a board of
  inquiry heard the case with witnesses from both
  sides of the debate -- the StarPhoenix and
  Owens saying the ad is an expression of free
  speech, and the plaintiffs along with
  government-procured witnesses claiming the ad
  incited hatred and violence against
  homosexuals.

  Canadian law outlines a complaint system for
  human rights violations from within the
  government's administration that is intended to
  lighten the load of the courts. Complaints filed
  with the Human Rights Commission follow one
  of two paths: An early settlement may be
  pursued in which the two parties -- the
  complainant and the accused -- undergo
  mediated discussion, or the commission may
  investigate a complaint to determine its
  validity. If the complaint is not valid, it is
  discarded.

  Once an investigation is completed and the
  commission determines a violation of the
  nation's Human Rights Code occurred, the case
  goes before a one-person tribunal, called a
  board of inquiry, who is required to have a
  "legal background." A government attorney
  pleads the case of the complainant while the
  accused is left to find his own counsel.

  The commission has asked that both the
  StarPhoenix and Owens pay $2,000 in damages
  to each of the three complainants and that the
  defendants share the $4,500 cost for two of the
  province's expert witnesses.

  One of those witnesses was Dr. Didi Khayatt, an
  education professor currently in the middle of a
  six-year study on how "lesbian" desire is
  expressed in Egypt. Khayatt testified that sexual
  identity is an integral part of one's personality
  and is constantly developing throughout a
  person's lifetime. She also said homosexuals
  face "misunderstanding and hostility ... in a
  heterosexist society."

  The Bible quotes chosen by Owens promote that
  hostility, according to the commission.
  StarPhoen

[CTRL] Prince Albert (Gore) and the King Maker by Jim Peron

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Subject:  Prince Albert (Gore) and the King Maker by Jim Peron
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:24 AM

 far and wide!
Prince Albert (Gore) and the King
Maker

by Jim Peron

 For decades the shadowy Armand Hammer
slipped comfortably between the halls of
 high finance and the Soviet Politburo.
Using his close connections with the Soviets,
 Hammer built a fortune pretending to be an
advocate of capitalism while helping sustain
 and spread Soviet Communism. Masquerading
as a capitalist was quite lucrative.

 The FBI was certainly aware that Hammer was
used to launder money from Soviet
 sources. Edward Jay Epstein, in his exposé
Dossier: The Secret History of Armand
 Hammer says that by tracing Soviet money
through Hammer they “had been able to
 determine from the serial numbers on the
bills that much of the money was disbursed to
 the Soviet underground in America.” Hammer
took direct orders from the Lenin and
 Stalin regimes. He helped recruit and place
Soviet spies within the US government Yet
 there was something which prevented the
fervently anti-communist J. Edgar Hoover from
 moving on Hammer in spite of his role in
financing the communist movement in America.

 What prevented such a move was that Hammer
was already entangled with top members
 of the Senate and US Congress. Clearly in
the Hammer camp was then Congressman
 Albert Gore, Sr. of Tennessee — the father
of the current vice president. Also closely
 connected to Hammer was pro-Soviet
Congressman Emmanuel Celler and Congressman
 James Roosevelt, son of FDR. Hammer was in
fact a secret business partner with
 Roosevelt—channeling business and funds
into Roosevelt’s coffers via an insurance
 company they both owned. As we shall see,
this was a ploy which Hammer also used
 successfully with Al Gore, Sr. As Bob
Zelnick, biographer of Al Gore Jr., in his Gore: A
 Political Life said: “Through the 1950s and
well into the following decade, Hammer
 counted on Gore as his principal link to
the Democratic congressional leadership, and to
 defend his economic interests.”

 Epstein says that Hoover “had survived in
Washington for three decades because he
 understood the reality of power, had no
interest in challenging this congressional phalanx.
 He decided to take no action. Hammer had
effectively stalemated him.”

 Hammer had built up a close relationship
with Al Gore Sr., which he used to his ultimate
 advantage. But this is not to say that Gore
didn’t benefit either. Much of the modern Gore
 fortune is built on the sweetheart deals
that Hammer gave to his congressional
 mouth-piece. Like he did with Roosevelt,
Hammer actually became business partners
 with Gore in a cattle-breeding project
which, according to Epstein “made a substantial
 profit” for Gore. Insiders have been highly
suspicious of the Gore/Hammer cattle alliance.
 Major Wall Street players would suddenly
appear on the Gore property bidding to buy
 cattle at highly inflated prices. Ned
McWherter, former Governor of Tennessee said:
 “I’ve sold some Angus [cattle] in my time
too, but I never got the kind of prices for my
 cattle that the Gores got for theirs.”
Zelnick wrote that neighbors of the Gores would “tell
 the inquiring visitors of how lobbyists and
others with an interest in Gore’s work would
 parade to Carthage [Gore’s home town]
during the fall auction period, bid outrageously
 high prices for Gore’s stock, and sometimes
not even bother to pick up what they had
 purchased.”

  

[CTRL] Fwd: [BRIGADE] Jewish Head of NJ-RP Defends Buchanan's Policies

[Colleen Jones]

Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**




Dear Brigade,

"[T]he state party chair defended Buchanan and denied that the
presidential hopeful was antisemitic or a Holocaust revisionist. Most of
the statements Buchanan made that seemed to take such stands were
misconstrued, he said ...  "He's very well read and well educated," Goodman
said. "What I find distasteful is when the media takes things out of context.
It's done to tear apart somebody who is not part of the establishment..."

GO PAT GO!!!
Linda



The Jerusalem Post - January 24, 2000

Jewish head of NJ Reform Party defends Buchanan's policies
by Enid Weiss, New Jersey Jewish News

WHIPPANY, NJ - While Pat Buchanan is making national headlines as he
seeks the Reform Party nomination for president, New Jersey's Reform Party
chairman - a Jew from Mahwah - is trying to strengthen the local party
organization.

As head of the state party, Ira Goodman isn't endorsing candidates. Instead
he's trying to publicize his party and fill New Jersey ballots with Reform
candidates.

He won't say who they might be, only that he plans to field contenders for
the Senate and the House of Representatives and New Jersey Senate and
Assembly seats. He's even talking to some people about entering municipal
elections.

During the party's first few years, voters adopted a wait and see approach,
Goodman said.

"Now people are starting to see who we are and they'll come along," he
asserted. "In 2000 you'll see a flood of candidates."

Ross Perot ran nationally for the presidency on an independent ticket in
1992 and garnered 19 million votes. That led to the formation of the Reform
Party in 1996 - but Perot won only 8.5 million votes as he ran again for
president on the party's ticket that year.

In New Jersey, Perot got about nine percent of the vote in 1996. That was
down from the 16 percent that had been cast for him in the state in '92.

Declining to say how many people belong to the Reform Party, Goodman
blames state Democrats and Republicans for "setting up major barriers,"
such as ballot petition challenges, that limit his party's success rate.

Goodman, a market research consultant, says that although Minnesota
Governor Jesse Ventura and Buchanan, the Reform Party's most politically
prominent members, may not be politically correct in their speech and
writing, they have attracted a lot of attention.

"It's gotten people to think," Goodman said. "As a result, we've seen our
membership grow, probably double."

Attention can be a key factor in a close race, said Ingrid Reed, director of the
Eagleton New Jersey project at the Eagleton Institute of Politics at Rutgers
University, New Brunswick.

Reed added that although there are not many third- party candidates in
local contests, "Statewide our elections have been close. Three percent
can be a significant percentage in a close election."

To run on a Reform Party ticket in New Jersey, a potential candidate must
talk to Goodman, submit to an interview and then be approved by a
three-person committee.

According to Goodman, a lack of supporters may cost Pat Buchanan a line
on the ballot in New Jersey.

But the state party chair defended Buchanan and denied that the
presidential hopeful was antisemitic or a Holocaust revisionist. Most of
the statements Buchanan made that seemed to take such stands were
misconstrued, he said.

"He's very well read and well educated," Goodman said. "What I find
distasteful is when the media takes things out of context. It's done to
tear apart somebody who is not part of the establishment. Do I agree with
everything he says? No."

Buchanan does talk about a Jewish lobby in his books, Goodman said, "but
he talks about all lobby groups. If we're one nation we can't keep
splitting into separate groups."

BUT many people do see Buchanan as antisemitic. Abraham H. Foxman,
national director of the Anti-Defamation League, is one of them.

Foxman has said that Buchanan "promotes views that are decidedly racist,
antisemitic, isolationist and nativist. He is an outspoken Holocaust
revisionist. As an Israel- basher he seeks to undermine America's
longstanding ties to Israel, a strategic ally."

For example, Buchanan's book, The Great Betrayal, includes Holocaust
revisionist ideas, Foxman said.

Kidder defended Buchanan against charges of antisemitism, and she
defended the book as well.

"Pat Buchanan was giving a different historical perspective," Kidder said,
adding that Buchanan's perspective "was not antisemitic." If Germany and
the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics had begun fighting earlier, Kidder
said, then, as Buchanan indicated in his book, "the death camps probably
wouldn't have happened."

Kidder explained how she would appeal to a Jewish voter who was concerned
about the antisemitic views that Buchanan or other Reform Party candidates
seem likely to sh

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE EU'S THREAT TOWARD AUSTRIA

[Colleen Jones]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Snow Owl.Your letter appears as though I wrote itthis is
just to say the letter attached herewith is your writing and not mine.

I agree with RuMills as she has been around inteligence
factions..you look to Austria and see Albright and Kissinger wanting
to rule the world with their particular brand of democracy, like Waco
and Ruby Ridge and the Balkans, rule the world using the business end of
the gun.

Look how they try to get the guns from the IRA; they will NEVER succeed
in bending Ireland to its knees..ever met a Prussian Prince, or an
Arabian Prince or wondered by King Faisal in 1968 was murdered, and John
John and Princess Diana were murdered.

You see they did not fit into the New World Order, nor did John F.
Kenned Sr. and George Wallace and Ronald Reagan.you see what
happened to them?

So judge RuMills as you will; that is your opinion, and I have
mine..Henry Kissinger KGB Agent Code Name Bor; Madeline Albright
just came back from seeing KGB Putin and asked permission for USA to set
up defense system?

And Austriathis beautiful country of a culture they refuse to
relinquishthey do not want a melting pot or a New York Citythey
want to stay as they are and have a right to so do.

So what is Kissinger and UN and Albright's idea with regard to
democracy?

Wel massive genocide - look at Africa and buy the book Who Murdered
Angola, and look into the AIDS problem.you think Austria wants to be
Americanized.

Tales From Vienna Woods...and Madeline Albright wants to make it a
ghetto while Kissinger still works at cornering the market on food as a
weapon?>

Hey, get those people out of our government... Albright should be
sent  to the Balkans for trial as a war criminal.

Along with Clinton . and Kissinger is sitting on an Indonesian Board
involved with gold?   $500,000 a year for a few meetings?

KGB/Mossad/FBI/CIA..meet murder incorported..where they getting
their traing these days, and do you think Sadaam Hussein or anyone in
Austria that is Austrian is about to get down on all fours before that
old bat who belongs washing pots or pans in someone's kitchen?

These people are evil; they destroy Churches, always nice targets; they
promote through New World Order homosexuality for our children as form
of genocide, for then they will be punished by a One God Fits All

Austria is first to take stand..WWII is over, and remember 55
million people died in WWII...the Pope reminded people of that and
within a few months someone tried to assassinate him.


Colleen Jones, Chairman of the Board
*International Order of the Irish Mafia*
The Clan of Dan*
**DON'T TREAD ON ME YOU SOB**

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