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Re: kernel module tulip.o - how to load on startup SOLVED

2005-06-08 Thread Hermi

Hermi wrote:
 excerpt
 This question boils down to asking how to force a kernel module to load
 on startup in the style of 'insmod -f'. I include the rationale for
 it, in case I am approaching this the wrong way
 /excerpt


I solved it by installing the package 'kernel-headers-2.2.20-idepci',
and recompiling tulip.c using those headers.

(I wasn't aware of the existence of that package until recently)


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Re: apt or aptitude on sarge

2005-06-08 Thread Steve Lamb

michael wrote:
 I note that it seems that aptitude is recommended over apt for Sarge. I
 was wondering if it's as str forward as just using aptitude from now on?

Pretty much.

 eg I do not have to rebuild anything the first time i use aptitude (ie
 it uses the same dpkg info as apt

Correct.

 - but in that case why is aptitude

Because it does a few things apt does not do or do well.  You can continue
to use apt if you like, just like you can continue to use dselect at this late
of a date.  :)


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GNOME/KDE in Sarge?

2005-06-08 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini

Hello.

I have to install Linux on one box that I will admin remotely.
A few users there will want to use GNOME (or maybe KDE, but it would be
fine if I install just GNOME). I'll have to make a short trip to install
the OS, and would like to do this as quickly as possible.

So -- since I don't have a box here to try and test installing Sarge,
my question is: how easy is it to configure X and GNOME? At least
until Woody, it didn't just work out of the box, as it happens
with Fedora, for example. Not that I think installing Fedora is a
better idea, but I'd like to know how long it will take.
Those who have installed Sarge -- what did you have to do to get X
(and GNOME) running? Does it detect the hardware without problems?
What is used to configure X? Did it work for you without need for
manually tweaking /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? And did GNOME and gdm install
nicely too?

Thanks a lot!
J.


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Re: dist-upgrade and sources.list

2005-06-08 Thread Maurits van Rees

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:55:47AM -0700, Basajaun wrote:
 My impression (correct me if I'm wrong) is that whatever sources you
 put in sources.list have nothing to do with the version of Debian you
 are running. Those lines only tell apt-get where to look for the
 packages, but apt-get will ignore the ones not matching your version.

Not true. It will download the list of updated packages from each
valid line. If you have one line with woody, one with sarge, one with
etch and one with sid then apt will download four package lists.

 Actually, while writing this post, I have read man apt_preferences,
 and I am still digesting it... anyway...

Keep digesting. It is good stuff. ;-)

 What this means is that if I put sarge or stable (both are synonyms
 now)  where I had testing, my system will continue updating
 correctly, but even if I keep testing as sources (which would be
 inappropriate for my box now), no harm will be done: apt-get will
 simply look only in the directories I provide (testing ones), and
 conclude that the stuff there corresponds to Debian 3.2 Etch, not
 Debian 3.1 Sarge, and  downright ignore it, telling me that 0
 updateable packages where found, isn't it so?

No. But I'm not sure what you mean with the directories that you
provide. I have the following line in sources.list:

deb ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free

That's a site in The Netherlands. You probably want another one.


Shouldn't there be a line for the security updates?

Oops, absolutely. Thanks for asking. ;-)

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

But all valid lines in your sources.list will lead to an update of an
available package list. What you really want to do is explicitly tell
apt which distribution you want to track. By default only packages for
that distro will get upgraded. See below.

 The second question is the use of apt-get dist-upgrade. Say I am
 running Debian 3.1 Sarge (stable), and I want to upgrade to Debian 3.2
 Etch (testing)... how does apt-get know it has to upgrade me to Etch,
 and not Sid? It always upgrades stepwise (stable - testing - etch)?

Look at the manual page of /etc/apt.conf:

man apt.conf

Actually I fail to see the info I am looking for there. Ah, it is in
the apt_preferences man page you mentioned. The point of interest here
is the Default-Release line.  Put sarge or stable there. And if you
want to track the new testing distro put etch or testing there. I
think you can either handle it in the apt.conf or in the preferences
file.  Here is my /etc/apt.conf (I have no preferences file
currently):

APT
{
Default-Release sarge;
Cache-Limit 2000;
Cache::Important Yes;
ExtractTemplates::TempDir /var/tmp;
};
DSELECT
{
Clean never;
};

BTW, I actually still had

Default-Release testing;

there, which explains some unexplained behaviour I was getting. :)

And on dist-upgrade: this is not meant just to upgrade to a new
distribution. I used to think that too. It is a more thorough (and
possibly more dangerous) method of upgrading. Say you have package-a
version 1 installed, with no dependencies. A new version 2 becomes
available, which has a new dependency on package-b, which you don't
yet have installed. An 'apt upgrade' will do nothing. An 'apt
dist-upgrade' will upgrade package-a from version 1 to version 2 and
will install package-b.

See the man page for apt-get.

HTH,

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Re: apt or aptitude on sarge

2005-06-08 Thread mess-mate

Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| michael wrote:
|  I note that it seems that aptitude is recommended over apt for Sarge. I
|  was wondering if it's as str forward as just using aptitude from now on?
| 
| Pretty much.
| 
|  eg I do not have to rebuild anything the first time i use aptitude (ie
|  it uses the same dpkg info as apt
| 
| Correct.
| 
|  - but in that case why is aptitude
| 
| Because it does a few things apt does not do or do well.  You can continue
| to use apt if you like, just like you can continue to use dselect at this late
| of a date.  :)
| 
If this can help
I'm moving from sarge to etch and aptitude didn't his job seriously,
stopped before the upgrade.
So finally moved with the old good apt-get with succes.


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problem burning DVDs on LG GSA-4163B under Sarge (2.6.8-2-k7)

2005-06-08 Thread Adam Mercer

Hi

I am having problems burning DVDs on a freshly installed Sarge system,
using kernel 2.6.8-2-k7. CDs burn without issue, but I get the
following error when trying to burning DVDs

lnx5:/data/ram# growisofs -Z /dev/hdd -dvd-compat -R -J h2g2
Executing 'mkisofs -R -J h2g2 | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/hdd: Current Write Speed is 4.1x1385KBps.
:-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error
:-( write failed: Input/output error
/dev/hdd: flushing cache
:-[ SYNCHRONOUS FLUSH CACHE failed with SK=3h/ASC=A0h/ACQ=80h]:
Input/output error
lnx5:/data/ram#

as both a normal user, and as root.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Adam

kernel panic when installing 2.6.11.11

2005-06-08 Thread Frank de Brabander

Hi !

I'm running Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.8-2 on my Sony Vaio notebook
VGN-A115Z (Centrino). I've downloaded kernel 2.6.11.11 but i get
problems running it.

initrd-tools: 0.1.74
NET: Registered protocol family 1
pivot_root: no such file or directory
/sbin/init: 426: cannot open dev/console: no such file
kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!

I've tried a lot of modules from the filesystem and driver section,
but getting this error.

Does anyone know what is going wrong or in which direction i should
look (missing filesystem module, wrong ide driver... etc).

Greetings, Frank

Re: GNOME/KDE in Sarge?

2005-06-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:18:53AM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I have to install Linux on one box that I will admin remotely.
 A few users there will want to use GNOME (or maybe KDE, but it would be
 fine if I install just GNOME). I'll have to make a short trip to install
 the OS, and would like to do this as quickly as possible.
 
 So -- since I don't have a box here to try and test installing Sarge,
 my question is: how easy is it to configure X and GNOME? At least
 until Woody, it didn't just work out of the box, as it happens
 with Fedora, for example. Not that I think installing Fedora is a
 better idea, but I'd like to know how long it will take.
 Those who have installed Sarge -- what did you have to do to get X
 (and GNOME) running? Does it detect the hardware without problems?
 What is used to configure X? Did it work for you without need for
 manually tweaking /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? And did GNOME and gdm install
 nicely too?
 

It depends mostly on the hardware.  Much hardware is automatically
recognized and configured.  Much is not.  Searching the list archives
(and the archives of debian-x) will give a good idea of what hardware
has been giving problems with Sarge.

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Re: apt or aptitude on sarge

2005-06-08 Thread Frank Gevaerts

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:21:26PM +0100, michael wrote:
 I note that it seems that aptitude is recommended over apt for Sarge. I
 was wondering if it's as str forward as just using aptitude from now on?
 eg I do not have to rebuild anything the first time i use aptitude (ie
 it uses the same dpkg info as apt - but in that case why is aptitude
 recommended over and above apt?)

AFAIK It has a somewhat different dependency reolution engine, which seems
to be better at large dist-upgrades than apt in most cases.

Frank

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3.1_r0a ?

2005-06-08 Thread Hans du Plooy

Hi guys,

What's the difference between 3.1_r0 and 3.1_r0a?

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Re: 3.1_r0a ?

2005-06-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:26:07PM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 What's the difference between 3.1_r0 and 3.1_r0a?
 

3.1r0a fixes a minor bug in the originally mastered CD/DVD images that
caused the installer to insert `testing' instead of sarge into the
sources.list of a newly installed system.  You really only need it if
you are going to install more systems from the CDs.

-Roberto

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Re: apt or aptitude on sarge

2005-06-08 Thread Jonathan Kaye


En/La michael ha escrit, a 08/06/05 13:21:

I note that it seems that aptitude is recommended over apt for Sarge. I
was wondering if it's as str forward as just using aptitude from now on?

Yup.

eg I do not have to rebuild anything the first time i use aptitude (ie
it uses the same dpkg info as apt - but in that case why is aptitude
recommended over and above apt?)

There's been a number of interesting threads on this list on that topic. 
why not have a look in the archives.

thanks

Cheers,
Jonathan



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Re: apt or aptitude on sarge

2005-06-08 Thread Clinton V. Weiss


michael wrote:

I note that it seems that aptitude is recommended over apt for Sarge. I
was wondering if it's as str forward as just using aptitude from now on?
eg I do not have to rebuild anything the first time i use aptitude (ie
it uses the same dpkg info as apt - but in that case why is aptitude
recommended over and above apt?)

thanks


Aptitude is merely a front end for apt.  A couple of advantages are that 
aptitude will keep a record of what packages it has installed when you 
install one package, and so when you remove a package with aptitude, the 
dependencies get removed right along with it.  Another that I like, when 
installing a package it will automatically pull in the recommended 
packages, which can save you the hassle of trying to figure out why your 
program is missing that particular plugin you wanted, etc.


There are many more, which I'm sure others will list.  Also, I've never 
experienced anything negative with aptitude, although I'm sure others have.


Clinton


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nonwiping netinstall

2005-06-08 Thread Hendrik Boom

Is there any way to use the new net-installer *without*
wiping clean the partition being installed to?

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Woody to Sarge breaking LILO?

2005-06-08 Thread Clinton V. Weiss

To my frustration, upgrading a server over 200 miles from me remotely 
has failed.  The dist-upgrade worked just fine, and then I decided to 
reboot it.  A few minutes later attempts to contact the machine failed, 
ping timeouts, ssh timeouts, etc etc.


I contacted someone who is at the location to tell me what they see on 
the computer's console, all they see is LI_ with the _ blinking.  This 
tells me that LILO started, and never finished.


Has anyone else had any problems related to this?  And what did you do? 
 I understand I will more than likely have to go to the location.  What 
gets me is I tested this on a mirror machine, and this problem didn't 
happen...


Looking for suggestins,
Clinton


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On 6/8/05, Jeronimo Pellegrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello.I have to install Linux on one box that I will admin remotely.A few users there will want to use GNOME (or maybe KDE, but it would befine if I install just GNOME). I'll have to make a short trip to install
the OS, and would like to do this as quickly as possible.So -- since I don't have a box here to try and test installing Sarge,my question is: how easy is it to configure X and GNOME? At leastuntil Woody, it didn't just work out of the box, as it happens
with Fedora, for example. Not that I think installing Fedora is abetter idea, but I'd like to know how long it will take.Those who have installed Sarge -- what did you have to do to get X(and GNOME) running? Does it detect the hardware without problems?
What is used to configure X? Did it work for you without need formanually tweaking /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? And did GNOME and gdm installnicely too?Thanks a lot!J.

Hey

Just installed sarge, the installer is great. Tthere is an option to
autodetect your video hardware, so it'll work right away for some
harware.
If you know your monitor's H-sync and V-sync rates, the resolution you
need and what driver your videocard needs, you're probably in the
clear.
You can enter those values during the install. Also tell the
installer to install the Desktop Environment, it'll install
gdm/gnome/kde/lots of other desktop soft you'd excpect and default to
Gnome/GDM.

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