Re: What happened to put -C option in ncftp?
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Mark Phillips wrote: I used to be able to continue an interrupted ftp upload in ncftp just by typing put -C filename. It would continue the upload where it left off. But since upgrading to slink, ncftp no longer seems to have this option. Does anyone know what happened to it? Mark, From the man page for ncftp: The program tries to ``resume'' downloads by default. This means that if the remote FTP server lost the connection and was only able to send 490 kilobytes of a 500 kilobyte file, you could recon nect to the FTP server and do another get on the same file name and it would get the last 10 kilo bytes, instead of retrieving the entire file again. There are some occasions where you may not want that behavior. To turn it off you can use the ``-Z'' flag. In short, IF I understand the man page, ncftp does a reget by default, if a file has been partially fetched. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because the bugs get acknowledged and fixed quickly.
Re: Y2K
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, CSR de Port-au-Prince wrote: I get a Slackware 2.0.29 Kernel of Linux. I'd like to know if it's Y2K. If not which version is Y2K. Thank you to answer me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Reynold GUERRIER Reynold: Y2K problems stem from a two digit date, done to save memory. Linux and Unix maintain the date in a 32 bit number. It will roll over in 2038, by which time, I hope, I'm running a 64 bit machine and Linux or its free successor. (That is, if I live that long. I'll be 98 then.) David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because with Linux there is no Y2K problem. Because the support is fast, correct, useful, and free. Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.
Re: K-Rad Debian?
On 25 Mar 1999, ESP wrote: I have a couple of questions, and I haven't been able to find a FAQ for debian-users so you're JUST GOING TO HAVE TO LUMP IT. :-) [snip] 4) Is anyone else interested in a K6-optimized version of Debian (which I've dubbed K-Rad Debian in my own head, just because it sounds good)? I'd think it'd be great for pre-install on low-end PCs, a lot of which use the K6. 5) Is this interesting enough to become an official port? YES! I'm an AMD fan, and use K6 processors. Please keep me posted. David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because the support is free, quick, accurate. Bugs are acknowledged and fixed quickly. The .deb packages don't break my system.
Re: The GNU thing
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote: I thought the following comment from Linus was interesting. It comes from an article he wrote at www.linuxworld.com ... The importance of compilers was one reason I chose to license Linux under the GNU Public License (GPL). The GPL was the license for the GCC compiler. I think that all the other projects from the GNU group are for Linux insignificant in comparison. GCC is the only one that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be. ...Linus Torvalds Hi George Sounds like religion to me. Religion is religion no matter who pronounces it. Emacs is a religion. Some hate it, some love it. Few are neutral. I love Emacs. I respect those who use small editors and restart the editor for each compilation error. With great respect for Linus, George B, and all the rest of those who make _MY_ operating system and its ecoutrements possible and useful, I am David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because the support is free and the best anywhere. The software is useful, free, easy to use and stable.
Re: rivatnt slink
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, tino wrote: can I get a working SVGA-server with my rivaTNT chipset on the slink release the easiest way? Do I have to uninstall xfree86-3.3.2packages and then download and compile all the xfree86-3.3.3 sources ? Are ther no packages/patches for? If you are using Slink or Potato, and if 3.3.3 supports your card, you may be OK. Go to the Xfree web site (www.xfree.org) and read the several documents, in particular the card specific README. The card specific README is what gave my local guru the information necessary to make a working config file. I have an SIS-6326 card that all I had to do was down load the SVGA16 and SVGA servers, replace these in my Slink system, then create an XF86Config file for the card. I left all the 3.3.2 packages out there. David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Use Free Software: would you drive a car with the hood welded shut?
ANSWER: Re: Boot disk swiped, how to make one?
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, David B. Teague wrote: I installed Slink on my system but had not installed LILO to make it bootable directly from the HD. Someone swiped the boot disk. Question: Is it possible, given the contents of the /etc/fstab file and a knowledge of where the kernel is located (/boot/vmlinuz-2.036) to run LILO from a boot disk -- say Tom's Unix on a floppy and make the floppy boot the kernel on the hard disk? The short answer is yes. The how is here: I asked about making a boot disk. I got one reply from Peter Berlau. The suggestion was to copy my kernel to the floppy device, run rdev on /dev/floppy to set the root and swap partitions, to set the initial file system to read only, and a few other things. This worked, and solves the immediate problem of getting back into the system. The question I really wanted answer to concerned the possibility of running LILO from a boot install or other linux floppy with the partition having the kernel mounted, to write boot tracks to the floppy. The ideas is to make the floppy boot the kernel on the hard drive. This boots faster. This lilo.conf does it: boot=/dev/fd0 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 label=Linux read-only Thanks to Carl Mummert for this, and to Peter Berlau who gave me an alternate solution. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because reboots are for kernel and hardware upgrades.
Boot disk swiped, how to make one?
Folks: I installed Slink on my system but had not installed LILO to make it bootable directly from the HD. Someone swiped the boot disk. Question: Is it possible, given the contents of the /etc/fstab file and a knowledge of where the kernel is located (/boot/vmlinuz-2.036) to run LILO from a boot disk -- say Tom's Unix on a floppy and make the floppy boot the kernel on the hard disk? If it is possible, would some kind soul please tell me how to do this feat. (Mea Culpa: I well understand the importance of duplicating the boot disk. I didn't do it this time and I have a Windows 98 only machine as retribution.) My machine has: 126 Meg RAM 100 MHz motherboard K6 2-350 512 K cache 9.? Gig ide HD 1.4 floppy Yamaha sound card SiS 6326 8M AGP video KDE 17 monitor 3Com509 net card Many thanks to all who support us in the trenches. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Becuase software crashes should not be the norm. Reboots are for hardware and kernel updates.
Where is the exim cookbook? Was Re:[exim] Custom headers
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote: On 9 Mar 1999, Frozen Rose wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mitch Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you tie a rewrite rule to a particular route? The documentation wasn't very clear on this. [snip] It's in the Exim cookbook, istr. [snip] Where is the Exim cookbook? It didn't come with a recent stock exim installation. I have a recently installed frozen/slink, where exim is the default. There is no exim cookbook, nor any file named istr, nor any file with that substring in its name. Please tell me where I can find the exim cookbook. BTW: The slink install was much easier than Hamm. Thanks, guys. --David Teague Debian GNU/Linux: Because software should be expected to be stable; reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.
Re: New
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Joe wrote: I'm trying to install Debian-Linux, and I don't know what I'm doing. I need someone I can call on the phone to walk me through the installation [snip] Hi Joe Dale Scheetz has a book published by Linux Press that is just your tcket. It costs about $40 US and comes with 3 CDs of Hamm. If you buy the book Dale provides email support for installation. See www.linuxpress.com. The book itself can be downloaded in html format from the web site, but the email hand-holding and the book to gether are easily worth the $40. I used the 1.3.1 version. It made a world of difference in the ease of installation. I have not used the 2.0 version. I installed the Frozen 2.1 (Slink) version. The Hamm (2.0) version is on www.linuxpress.com now. David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software should not be expected to crash. Rebooting should not be necesary to reboot when something changes in the system configuration. On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Joe wrote: I'm trying to install Debian-Linux, and I don't know what I'm doing. I need someone I can call on the phone to walk me through the installation and get Debian working. E-Mail me at to give me your phone # so I can call you for help -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: modem
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Pablo Cernadas wrote: I need help to choise a modem that works on debian can somebody tellme about? Avoid any modem that is a win modem These do not and can not be made to work under Linux. Primarily because the CPU does most of the work, and the specifications are kept a propriatary secret, so no drivers can be written. I use external modems with a serial port. Others will have internal modems that they like. I have heard, but cannot promise, that Multitech makes non-win modems. Wishing you luck, David David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.
Re: stop machine before fvwm2
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: [ .. how to do that .. ] Wouldn't it be nice to have a run-level that doesn't start X by default in debian? It is one of the first things I do after installing debian on a machine. Eric and Paul At the very least, the X (or xdm) package should let you get X working before activating xdm. I had a really bad turn with my new machine that has an SiS 6326, and Slink (frozen). X didn't work, but xdm did. My X now works, but not without using single user to kill xdm, and some playing with XF86Config and lots of RTFM, several of them, Readmes and HOWTOs too. flame Thanks for this. May it be plastered on the walls of the X developers. /flame David David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software stability should be expected.
Re: dselect Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Wayne Cuddy wrote: If there is one feature that I would LOVE to see in dselect it would be to save all the packages I have selected and allow my to load the selection on a new system so I don't have to do it everytime. Maybe this feature is already there and I don't know about it... Wayne From dpkg --help: dpkg --get-selections [pattern ...] get list of selections to stdout dpkg --set-selections set package selections from stdin I use it like this: dpkg --get-selections my_selections dpkg --set-selections my_selections --David Teague Debian GNU/Linux: Because software should not be expected to crash, and reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.
Re: I've removed /etc. How can I restore it?
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Conrado Badenas wrote: Please, don't laugh at me until you have read the message! I was doing some maintanance tasks, removing old files with rmold (it is an alias for rm -rf *~ .*~). I noticed (with ll /etc|less) that /etc had some old files and I did rmold /etc, unknowing of the catastrofic effects: It removed the whole directory! [...] dselect says I only have 134 packages. I remember the name of the last five or six packages installed previous week, but nomore. [...] How can I get a list of packages I really DO have installed in order to reinstall again in order dselect to know the truth? Conrado: Someone may laugh, but I share with you a screwup back in the SysVr2 days. I deleted the devices file. I had tried to test a printer with cat file /dev/lpr but that overwrote the lpr device. I noticed a file (evidently created with some attempt to write directly to device). no thought: rm /dev/* All of /dev/*. All gone. I erased, reinstalled and restored the weekly backup. This is too easy to do. :) You may be able to determine what packages you ahve installed by ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list This will give you the names of the packages. Perhaps then you can dselect these packages and install. I thought about dpkg --get-selections myselections This won't work given that dselect says you only have 134 packages. I do this periodically, against disaster, to keep a record of packages for reinstall. Lots of luck! --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because Debian developers and users CARE. Thanks guys! On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Conrado Badenas wrote: Please, don't laugh at me until you have read the message! I was doing some maintanance tasks, removing old files with rmold (it is an alias for rm -rf *~ .*~). I noticed (with ll /etc|less) that /etc had some old files and I did rmold /etc, unknowing of the catastrofic effects: It removed the whole directory! I tried to use dselect to configure all packages installed but dselect didn't executed. Then I had a panic, the system freezed and I booted. But then initd refused to go on (I had no /etc/init.d files!). Then I tried to install Debian again with the Hamm CDROM, but when installing base system some errors ocurred and I couldn't finished. I couldn't see the errors because messages were covered down with error mesages that explained that something failed but not where it failed! Then, I decided to make a SuSe boot disk in order to install the Minimal system and then trying again with Debian, but SuSe also failed. Again I tried out with Debian Hamm. Then, when mounting already initialized partitions (I didn't want to format them and loose the work of six months!) I noticed a warning message: I shouldn't mount partitions before checking them. So I unmounted and checked them. There were plenty of errors due (I suposse) to the first reset, when the system hanged and I had panic). So I e2fsck'ed them various times in order to have them right, I went on with instalation, and finally I had the base system installed. I didn't use dselect in order to install the standard packages because I had them already installed, but then, and after rebooting, I tried to use dselect in order to configure all my packages installed in these last six months. Dselect told me that I had installed almost no packages! I've lost the list of packages installed in these months! How could I restore it? Then I remembered that two months ago I tar'ed the /etc directory for a friend, searched the diskette, found it, and untar'ed it. Thus, I had the /etc of 23 december 1998. In order to obtain newer versions of /etc files for packages installed I dselect'ed and installed via ftp all packages listed (the base system). Then configured them, by choosing between the package /etc files and those already installed. Now I have a running system, but dselect says I only have 134 packages. I remember the name of the last five or six packages installed previous week, but nomore. How can I get a list of packages I really DO have installed in order to reinstall again in order dselect to know the truth? Thanks, now you can laugh! -- Conrado Badenas (Assistant Lecturer) Department of Thermodynamics. University of Valencia c/. Doctor Moliner, 50 | e-m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 46100 Burjassot (Valencia) | Phn: +34-63864350 SPAIN| Fax: +34-63983385 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: NE2000 PCI Card
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The NE2000 PCI-module is probing a number of addresses, make sure that your card is configured for one of those addresses. This can probably be done with the DOS-program (sorry) you have got with your card, Joop Is the necessary information to write code under Linux to set the card's irq, addresses etc available? I suppose one could do a (possibly illegal) disassembly of the DOS code, to find that information -- unless one can get that information from the card manufacturer. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linus: Because reboots are for hardware upgrades.
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
Graham Lillico +44 1785 782329 wrote: Does anyone know if XFree86 is 3.3.3.x is avaliable in deb format anywhere? Or when we will have one avaliable? As I understand it, you need to go to www.XFree.org, find the 3.3.3 server for your card, and copy it over the 3.3.2 server. I had to do that to get support for my video card, less serious than your concerns. I do hope this fixes your problem. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux powered. On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Peter Paluch wrote: Hello, == It will not be in the distribution till the maintainer of the X11 Debian packages feels comfortable about the current (3.3.2) packages. I think this is a problem because version 3.3.2.x is not ready for internationalization. I am publishing some articles in one Slovak PC magazine but I have to use M$ Windows when writing those articles for 3 reasons: 1.) There is not even one (!) word processor which is able to export the documents in MS Office97 format and is working properly with Slovak locale in XWin. 2.) I can't use TeX or similar because in that PC magazine they're using just MS products. 3.) I was unable to set up Slovak keyboard properly. I downloaded XWin 3.3.3. sources and compiled it and it worked with the same settings and same keyboard flawlessly! A friend of mine, using RedHat 5.2, laughed at me when I told him that we in Debian do not have even 3.3.3 when there is 3.3.3.1 out! I felt that time very uncomfortable. So until XWin 3.3.3.x appears in Debian distribution East-Europeans will have big problems getting their international support and locales working in XWin and I think it is a big pitty. I am, truly said, angry about it. Just explaining my feelings, please do not take it as offence. I simply can't stand the feeling that Linux can't do something that Windows can. I understand it is not so easy to administer and package such huge thing as XWindow, however, this disfunctionality should be at least treated as bug.
Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Person, Roderick wrote: I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which Kernal do I need to get the full access Roderick: Are you sure that isn't an Unformatted size? I had that happen to me just recently: My HDD was advertised as a 10.4 gig drive, (they disn't say unformatted, but that is what it was. linux fdisk sees it as 9.5 gigs. Formatted capacity. David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Gnu/Linus: Reboots are for hardware upgrades and new kernels.
Re: Mounting a floppy drive (still)
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, J K wrote: Hi again! A question: I finally mounted my floppy drive with mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy, but when I try to ls a floppy, I get this error msg about 20 times: directory sread (sector 0xd) failed What am I doing wrong? Your mount command worked on my machine. If you issued the command ls /floppy that should have worked unless some sector in the dos directory is hosed. You could try issue the Linux command sum /dev/fd0 if you get errors you know the disk is not perfect. Then I'd replace it. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because reliability is where it is at!
Re: slink base Disk Files Too Large?
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- On 13 Feb, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about slink base Disk Files Too Large? I recently tried to copy the slink base disk downloads (the ones for 1.44M floppies) to 1.44M floppies, but the floppie images were too large. ...anyone else have this problem or know what might have caused it? The files are disk images so they can not be copied to the disk. You have to use rawrite2(on dos) or dd(on linux) to put them on the disk. See the install documentation in the directory where you found the images. If you try to mcopy the file to an msdos floppy, or try to cp the file to a mounted floppy, clearly the disk image will be too large. You might try this: cp disk_image_name /dev/fd0 I have used this to create install disks in the past. Has something changed? --David Debian GNU/Linux Because reboots are for hardware upgrades.
SiS 6326
I bought a Tiger Direct PC, K6-2 350, with an SiS 6326 8MB AGP video card. However, with that video card, I cannot get X to work. We found a card specific server on the Xfree ftp site with some support for the SiS 6326. We downloaded both svga and svga16 servers, but cannot get the card to work with either. What little does happen convinces my colleague that the XF86Config file is not right. If someone has a XF86Config file for the svga server that is known to work with an SIS 6326, I'd appreciate your sharing it with me. David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because software should not be expected to crash.
RE: SiS 6326 video card
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, MacKenzie, Andrew wrote: I also have an SiS-based card and had a great deal of difficulty making it work until I used Xfree86 3.3.3. The SVGA server in this package has support for the SiS card and all works great now. What specific errors are you getting? Hi Andrew: We could get abolutely nothing until we got that XFree 3.3.3 server specifically supporting the SiS 6326 card. Nothing in 3.3.2 works. If you (or anyone else) has a XF96Config file that works with this card, please send me a copy for hacking. I have no mode lines, nor clocks. I'd also like some advice about where to look to find how to determine what these should be. You ask about the errors: I get a few pixels in the fvwm screen, can click a few times and then the machine freezes. Solid, no Ctl Alt Del reboot, nothing. Reset. If I have xdm running at boot, the system is useless, I can't get logged in at all. I do get an approximation of the xdm login screen, and it does change resolutions via Cntrl-Alt-plus and nothing works quite right from the console. I can login via telent. We booted linux single from the boot: prompt to kill xdm (rm symlinks in the rc.boot etc files). START FLAME I hate for a system to boot straight into _any_ windowing environment. If the windowing environment isn't working right you have a useless system. xdm startup at boot should _never_ be automatically installed. Not until it is CERTAIN that the X server is operating correctly. Then it should be an OPTION, certainly NOT the default. END FLAME I include below the XF86Config file and a typescript of what the server writes to the screen during the session. I wish I could omit some of it, but I know so little about this, I could easily omit important details. If you have a XF86Config file that has any hope of my using it with the 6326 card, even if it is only useful as a starting point, it will be closer than I am now. Please send it. --David David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades. ADDENDA Script started on Thu Feb 11 17:00:28 1999 frodo:~# startx XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: December 29 1998 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.0.36 i586 [ELF] Configured drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0): NV1, STG2000, RIVA128, RIVATNT, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225, sis5597, sis5598, sis6326, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200, mgag100, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_virge, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160, NM2200, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct6, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200, ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2x00, p9100, spc8110, generic (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings) (**) Mouse: type: MouseSystems, device: /dev/gpmdata, baudrate: 2400 (**) Mouse: resolution: 100, buttons: 3 (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: fsgh (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: sdf (--) SVGA: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA:
Re: 2 Emacs Questions
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: How do I search and replace 'hard-returns' or 'line-breaks'? I searched dejanews and the only thing I could find was to use C-q 'Enter' 'Enter' with Alt-Shift %, but when I try this I get 'No search patterns found'. Thanks Lance Lance You use search and replace, Meta %, and use Control Q Control j for your search string to find a hard return. Control Q escapes the line ending effect of Control j. --David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software should not be *expected* to crash.
Re: minimum X packages?
On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Daniel Martin wrote: Paul Nathan Puri [EMAIL PROTECTED]@office.law-counsellor.com writes: [...] What are the minimum packages necessary to run X under potato (or in general)? [snipped: useful answer by Daniel to the Potato X problem] I'd like to know the answer to the question: What is a minimal set of packages necessary to run X? --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software should not be *expected* to crash.
Re: dpkg, apt, ftp
John Many thanks. I'm home free now. I would have rtfm'd the man pages as is suggested by the dselect apt methond, only it is a catch 22: I don't have man pages because I can't install, because I dont have the information in the man pages This helps, thanks. All: there should be man pages in the base package -- if not full man pages, and binaries, then certainly enough information that how to specify an ftp login and password is clear. --David Debian GNU/Linux: Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades. On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, David B. Teague wrote: Would some kind soul tell me how to specify an ftp login and password when using dselect, apt-ftp access -- so I can use this access method with my local archive. Hm, it should be ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/debian Read the sources.list man page, it says exactly. Jason
dpkg, apt, ftp
Hi I want to install slink on my personal machine. I want to use dselect with apt and ftp access; however, our line to the outside is small and loaded. There is a very recent (1 or 2 days old) mirror of slink on a local server that is available only using ftp, but _not_ anonymous ftp. Would some kind soul tell me how to specify an ftp login and password when using dselect, apt-ftp access -- so I can use this access method with my local archive. I will gladly supply information reqested about the machine. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because reboots are for new kernels and hardware upgrades.
scsi tape
Hi Debian Users: The question is: can I use SCSI disk drives currently running with an Adaptec 2840 SCSI controller with Bus Logic controller? What about SCSI tapes: can a SCSI tape made on a tape drive with one controller be read with the same tape drive run with another (SCSI) controller? (Reason suggests the affirmative, but reason unfortunately does not always prevail.) Machine Details: Old machine: 486 16 MB Ram, 2840 SCSI controller, several SCSI drives and a 3080 tape for backup. The new machine has a K6-2 350; Mother Board: GBT Technology GA-5AX, INTEL Aladdin AGP chip set, 512K L2 cache, running at 100MHz; 128 MB RAM; 10G fast IDE; Mitsumi 32x FX series ide CD ROM; Yamaha ISA sound card; 8 MB AGP 3d video card (SiS 6326); and a 56kifxsp internal modem. By all guesses, it is a WIN modem. :( Anybody really know? I have another modem known not to be a WIN moedm :) I'll put Frozen on the new machine sometime this week. Questions restated: I need to move the data from the old machine to the new one. I'd like to be able to use the tape drive and some of the SCSI disks with a Bus Logic or other SCSI controller. Will I be able to use the disks unchanged on the machines with a Bus Logic SCSI controller? What about reading the tape drives? --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU LINUX: Because the best technical support comes from those who help for the joy of helping. Thanks, guys! Because software should be expected _not_ to crash. Because reboots are for hardware upgrades and new kernels. Because one should not have one's options circumscribed by a large company.
Re: scsi tape
On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, John Goerzen wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 11:23:26AM -0500, David B. Teague wrote: Questions restated: I need to move the data from the old machine to the new one. I'd like to be able to use the tape drive and some of the SCSI disks with a Bus Logic or other SCSI controller. Will I be able to use the disks unchanged on the machines with a Bus Logic SCSI controller? What about reading the tape drives? You'll be able to use them provided that the new machine uses the same type of SCSI. If, for instance, then new machine is UW SCSI and the old one is Fast SCSI, you'll need an adaptor device to hook up the old device (unless your card also has a Fast SCSI connector). There are adaptors that allow backward conpatibility all the way to SCSI I, I know I am using a SCSI II controller on a couple of SCSI devices, but when I moved from An Adaptec 1540A to eht 2840, I had to reformat all drives, and I was desperately hopoing that newer controllers were better behaved. David
manual fsck
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 01:42:25PM +0100, E.L. Meijer Eric wrote: This is an unusual checking by my machine (this is all I could cutpaste), has anything gone wrong here? [snip -- Hamish's encouraging reply ] Hi Debian Folk: I had an interesting experience with fsck I'd like someone explain to me. I am still running bo on one of my machines. The disk crashed. On reboot it found an anomaly, and wanted me to fsck manually. I did. It wanted to reset an inode I said yes, (to several such questions) and when the system came back up, Pine was seg-faulting. There was no inbound telnet, ftp, finger, nor mail. There was outbound telnet, ftp, finger, and mail. I have never before had anything like that happen, even with a manual fsck. Nothing was put in the lost+found, either. The elm mailer told me that there was an error in the smail config. Actually, that file was gone, so I fixed that, and I found that here was no in.telnetd. I reinstalled netbase and netstd, still no inbound telnet. Then my sysadmin hacked the startup script (the script wanted rpc.portmap, bo packages had portmap) and I'm up. FINALLY The question is how can I know when I shouldn't let the fsck clear an inode, and what are the consequences of doing so --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because reboots are for hardware upgrades and new kernels.
Re: removing ^M from a text file
On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote: Dear all, I had the misfortune to be stuck with MSWrite over the vac, and although I told it to save as plain text, it didn't. I can delete most of the cruft, but there is ^M at the end of each and every line. I've tried catdoc, word2x, and sed, but none of them will remove them. Can you suggest anything, please? Thanks, Matthew Hi Matthew In emacs, you can use the search and replace function: M-% C-Q C-M retret! This cryptic bit says: M-% search and replace C-q C-M Control q allows entry of literal control M ret terminates search string ret make replacement string empty ! make all replacements (Just as ugly as the vi response I saw. grin) There are also utilities that will do this. I'm sorry I don't have them at hand. --Good Luck, David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Becuase operating systems should not be expected to crash.
Re: Any good Debian books?
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am searching for a good Debian Linux book. Since I have no connection to either Linux Press nor to Dale Sheetz, I will give a plug for a book I have found to be very useful. Dale Sheetz is one of the Debian Developers. He has written The Debian Linux User's Guide, billed as the Official Debian GNU/Linuxbook. The 2nd edition, for Debian 2.0, is published by the Linux Press, ISBN 0-9659575-0-0. It is very clear. The price is still about $38 US, and include 3 CD, 2.0 binary, source, and extras. For details see http://www.linuxpress.com. If anyone knows of any other Debian Linux books, I'd like to hear from you. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because I want to be there TODAY! Besides, reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.
Re: compiling a kernel
Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: M == MallarJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: M Is there a way to find out what options the current kernel has been M compiled with? I don't want to miss anything or add anything that M I don't already have and won't need. If you use a kernel made with kernel-package or one of the kernel-binary Debian packages, then the config is saved in /boot/ Also the .config file may be in your old source tree. Hi Martin I'm about build a new kernel for new hardware, so I won't have a .config that says anything about my hardware in my source tree. I too do not want anything superflouous nor to miss anything. How do I set the configuration here? The new machine is from Tiger. I has a K6-2 350, 512K L2 cache, 128 MB SDRAM, 10.6 Gig ide HDD, PS/2 mouse, serial/paralled, and K56 FAX/Modem, monitor, video is generic 1280x1024 AGP 8MB, not (likely) accellerated. MB is a 100 MHz gigabyte super socket 7, Yamaha wave table sound on board. So how do I determine the various configuration details? As you suggest, I intend to use my current configuration and make some guesses as to necessary changes. Please advise. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.
Re: why .deb?
On 6 Jan 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote: MH == Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Bruce once suggested a move to rpm, but the developers believe dpkg is the better system. You may be right; however, if my memory serves, Bruce suggested that either .deb and .rpm be merged or that Red Hat adopt the .deb packaging system outright, rather than the reverse. At any rate, we agree, Debian Rules! --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because I want to be there TODAY. (stolen .sig)
Re: OFFTOPIC: How to use strings with libstdc++?
On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've stated that there is no old good String class in libstdc++. Instead I've found the string header which defines the string class. Is it OK to use it in new C++ programs, or it is added only for compatibility? Why has it such nonstandard name (without .h suffix). Wojciech There is some difficulty with the string class semantics. The library with egcc provides rope class that is said to fix some of the semantics. I hope soneone can clarify this question. The ANSI C++ standard provides many new features which most compilers are more or less tracking. Among them is a full set of template container and algorithm libraries, a string class string and namespaces. The standard provides for the C++ specific headers to have no extension. These headers include a bunch of headers equivalent to ANSI C headers, such as cmath for example. The new C++ headers that are equivalent to the C headers have much the same information in them as do the originals, except (I think) they have C++ linkage, giving full type checking. The differences between the behavior of .h headers and headers without is that the .h headers dump their symbols into the global namespce, whereas those headers without dump their symbols into namespace std. Whether you have to deal with namespace depends on your compiler. In all the g++/egcc compilers I know about, namespaces vary from mostly broken to don't work terribly well. You can find out about a substantial subset of the STL and string from Tim Budd's Data Structures in C++ with the Standard Template Library, AWL, ISBN 0 201 30897 7. There are better books for experienced programmers. I'm sorry I don't have one at my finger tips right now. Authors like Musser and Saini, Brett Glass, Nelson come to mind. Ping me back and I'll look up some pointers to these sources. Hope this helps. --David Teague[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because reboots are for kernel and hardware upgrades.
Re: OFFTOPIC: How to use strings with libstdc++?
On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've stated that there is no old good String class in libstdc++. Instead I've found the string header which defines the string class. Is it OK to use it in new C++ programs, or it is added only for compatibility? [...] David Teague wrote: There is some semantic difficulty with string. Wojciech: I found the SGI URL that contains the discussion of problem with strings I mentioned in a previous post: http://www.sgi.com/Technology/STL/string_discussion.html The next level up has a bunch of interesting topics. Dinkumware, PJ Plauger's software company is another good resource. URL: http://www.dinkumware.com/ --David Teague[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux: Because I want to get there Today! Software patents remain land mines lying in wait to destroy the practice of programming.
Re: Downloading the Linux file from ftp -Help!
Can anyone can give me some advice on how to get the kernel (linux) file from a ftp site with downloading it as a .txt file? Thanks Stephen Lavelle Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd. 110 Heales Road,Lara, Geelong, Australia3212Tel:++(03)52742232Fax:++(03)52742350mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I extract a 2.6 gigabyte .tar.gz file ?
On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: [snip] | You might think that it would sit there chewing on the file for a bit | before it got to some point beyond what it could deal with. Nope. | Didn't even start -- failed to even open the file up. No, compressed files have to be read entirely before being uncompressed. Or at least that's a requirement of most compression schemes. Don't recall the exact reason though. Something about storing the keys at the end of the file? My experience with gzipped files is that if damaged, I can just zcat the file and have an initial segment which is usable. I made a test with a small tar file. It appears to me that tar files place information about where the file is to be placed along with magic numbers at the start of the file image in the tar file. With regard to the need for all of a file to be intact to ungzip it: I gzip'ed a small tar file, then destroyed the last half to see. I can tar zxvf small.tgz - it correctly extracts all but the piece of file that is damaged. It seems reasonable that these observations will extrapolate. Somebody else comment? David.
Re: HELP: Repair of tar.gz files??
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Albert Hurd wrote: I dwnloaded newsletr.tar.gz from the CTAN site. On attempting a tar xvfz, I got: icarus:~/writing/newsletter tar xvfz newsletr.tar.gz tar: Hmm, this doesn't look like a tar archive tar: Skipping to next file header Is there anything I can do to recover the file, or am I out of luck for a Tex newsletter include?? Albert: The one thing you can try is zcat newsletr.tar.gz | tar vx This will unpack as far as the error. I don't know what else you might do from that point. Can you download this again? I hope someone else has an answer for that. --David --- LINUX: because I want to get there *TODAY*(thanks Shaleh) David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software patents [EMAIL PROTECTED] | make programming a dangerous business.
Re: Format of .deb files
Eric, Are all of .deb files ar archives?I recall having tried to unpack some.deb files with ar, and that didn't work. Whether they are all ar files, what were they before they were archive files? --David On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages on a Windows box? Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities). deb files are `ar' archives, they contain gzipped tar files, one of which contains the data, and another one contains the control scripts. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ls-120 drives
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Kenneth Scharf wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 05:32 -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: Stuff deleted But dos and windows can low level format 1.44m floppies IN AN LS120. If I could get linux to do that I could 86 my floppy drive an use it's interrupt for something else. Kenneth If you find out how to do format a dos floppy in an LS 120 drives, that would settle my impending purchase on an LS 120 for the new machine in my life. It seems to me that formatting a floppy should be do-able by any drive that can write to the floppy disk. Or does the floppy drive do something that the LS 120 cannot? (and that I don't know about? ;) --David
Re: Linux and AOL
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Stephen Gore wrote: Is it possible to connect to the Internet through AOL? I'm installing Debaian v2.0 via floppy and ftp, and need internet access to complete the installation. Any alternative suggestions welcome. Thanx! Hi Stephen My son is a programmer for AOL. He says that a lot of the AOL software people are Linux users, but none access AOL through Linux. He discourages me from trying. Maybe once WINE or WILLOWS is up we can use their software. -David --- Eschew Microsoft, and eschew obsfuscation. But I repeat myself. David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programming a dangerous business.
Re: Where is Bo?
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Nathan O. Siemers wrote: I need bo (debian 1.3) binaries of grep and ar to try and revive an old system before I can upgrade to hamm. Grep and ar have been lost [...] Nathan: Here is a list of archive sites that was posted a couple of months ago. Maybe George Bonser has some more. David --- Linux: Because I want to *get there* today. (thanks to Shaleh) David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. From: IN%[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6-AUG-1998 08:03:27.33 Subj: RE: bo archive *- George Bonser wrote about bo archive | There is an archive of bo at ftp.shorelink.com in /debian/bo | | I will post a listing of other mirrors on the ftp site as I am made aware | of them. There was a discussion on this on debian-devel recently, check the list archives to see if I missed any. These sites were given as having an archive of bo. ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/debian/dists/bo/ http://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/ ftp://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/ ftp://ftp.fifi.org/pub/debian/bo http://www.fifi.org/debian/bo -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: simple password
Horacio writes: This maybe a stupid question, but i want to change my password. When putting `passwd' linux askme for the new password. I put it in, and linux said it is too simple what can i do for linux dont say me that? Currently i have NO password, so i dont understand why linux say the new i write is `simple'. Use 6 to 8 letters, mix upper and lower case, mix in digits and puncutation. Use two words together with a punctuation mark, like * or $ or _ between. Deliberately mispell one or both of the words. Make sure whatever you use isn't in the dictionary. If you use your name, leave out vowels and replace some of the other letters with their ascii encodings. Other folk will have suggestions that are perhaps better. These work for me. --David --- Linux: Because I want to *get there* today. (thanks to Shaleh) David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. --Boundary_(ID_z7zDnT1yOr8wwY46TrvLzw)--
Re: adding SCSI disks
Hi Marco On my system, I have a 2840 which I understand to be close to the same firmware as 2940. The lowest scsi id is the boot drive. You don't mention scsi ids. Look at them and mail the list, I'll answer if someone doesn't get to you before me. David --- Linux: Because I want to *get there* today. (thanks to Shaleh) David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Marco Frattola wrote: Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:14:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Marco Frattola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian linux debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: adding SCSI disks Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:24:02 + Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi all, this is not a debian problem, but probably many debianers know the answer to this question. I have an IBM netfinity 3000 with 2 SCSI adapters, one aha 2940UW and one 2940AU. the second one is supposed to drive an external box with 4x9.1GB disks, the first one drives the internal disk only. the external box can contain up to 8 disks, and in the future we'll probably use more disks. my question is: no matter how I tried, the 'finity sees the 2940au as the first adapter, so the internal disk is named after the external diskis. now it's called sde and lilo config says to boot from sde. if I add new (external) disks, the internal will be called sdf/sdg/sdh/whatever and the machine won't boot. how can I change lilo.conf before adding new disks to let the machine boot again? I know it can be done (it's done at the end of debian config, when the istall program asks: do you want to boot from hd?) I have tried with lilo -C path-to-lilo.conf -i path-to-boot.b but it complained about not finding /vmlinuz .. TIA -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED] No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
Re: adding SCSI disks
Marco Mea culpa. I missed the fact that you have TWO controllers. I didn't read carefully enough. I am curious about the bios being enabled for various drives. I don't think a drive can boot at all if the bios is not enabled for that drive in the card's firmware. So I'd look at the firmware settings and turn the bios off on the card you do not want to boot, and on for the drive on the card you do. (I get the opportunity on boot to change these settings when the firmware runs on boot). I HOPE this helps. David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software patents [EMAIL PROTECTED] | make programming a dangerous business. On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Marco Frattola wrote: On my system, I have a 2840 which I understand to be close to the same firmware as 2940. The lowest scsi id is the boot drive. my disks have the following ids: disk on 2940UW - id 0 disk on 2940AU - id 0 - id 1 - id 2 - id 3 You don't mention scsi ids. Look at them and mail the list, I'll answer if someone doesn't get to you before me. but the problem is that id 0 on the 2940AU gets called sda even if it's not the id 0 disk .. just because it's the first disk on the first SCSI chain
Re: unsuscribe
Alan, The bit of geek-speak at the bottom of the messagess in this list tell how to unsubscribe. Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null In plain language, this means send mail (any mailer will do, UNIX mail Eudora, Elm, Pine, Netscape's mailer..) to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subject line containing only unsubscribe and an empty message body. If this fails to stop messages, send another message to the list explaining the problem and ask for help. I think there is a person at debian-user-request who will mnanually unsubscribe, but I don't know how to make him/her read the message. Let me know if this fails --David On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Alan Maciel Salcedo. wrote: unsubscribe Alan Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
From: !Rider@VenomNET! rider@tricom.net, Thanks for the reply!
Hi Please excuse posting this to the list, but There were no return address that my mailer likes in the message Rider posted to me. If Rider will email me with a usable return address in the body of the message, I'll forward the information he requests. --David -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 06:27:15 -0300 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David B. Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thanks for the reply! Hi, I am really grateful for your reply and for your offer to help me. [snip] Please do send me the material you promised me in your e-mail. Only God knows how grateful I will be. Thank You.
Linux question, not specifically debian
Hi All: With VMS VAXen the virtual memory architecture is paging, with executables for a process always loaded at 0x200. I understand that Linux is also paged. Does Linux start executables at any particular virtual address? What does Linux do in this regard? The answer may have something to do with Linux's idea of process vs VMS's idea of a process. I realize I should go read the kernel source, but I hope someone can tell me off the top of the head. Or point me to a document or book somewhere. --David Teague MS Windows: Like putting lipstick on a chicken. --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business.
Re: *H*E*L*P* (fwd)
Rider I congratulate you on having successfully installed the Debian GNU/Linux system. You need to read an introductory Unix book, such as O'reilly's Learning the UNIX Operating System or one of Sobel's books such as Hands On Linux series books from AWL. YOu need to learn a basic text command line set for getting around UNIX or Linux. Write me directly, not on the list, and I will send you some of the material I give my students. There are Linux web pages that are tutorial in nature, I'm sure that someone on this list will mention the URLs. A remark or two: Linux is just a free re implementation of the ideas and ideals of the Unix(tm) operating system by a bunch of wonderful people. It is better than Lose 95 or Lose NT in part because it is free, in part because it is very much more robust than M$ operating systems. It is not nearly as satisfactory from the point of view of Ms Average user because it requires some technical knowledge to use, and there really are no killer (desktop) applications yet. But for software development, web hosting, or teaching computer science, there is no better enviroment. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Igor Grobman wrote: You really should post to Debian-user with questions like this. I am sorry I don't have time to answer questions such as this most of the time. I took the liberty of forwarding your message to the list. Igor. --- Forwarded Message Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Sun Aug 30 23:15:58 1998 Reply-To: ID #35375-x , [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *H*E*L*P* I am not writting because I want to write a FAQ. I am writting to you because I can't find anyone else to write to! Please, you have to help me!!! I bought 4 CD's of Debian from CheapBytes. I installed the CD's everything was very confusing but I somehow managed to install Debian and get it working with Windows 95 on the same computer. I have a Pentium 150 with 32 Mb ram and a 1 Gb hard drive. I have a PnP Modem (33.6Kpbs) and a PnP sound card (AWE64 Gold). Now, I tried my level best to learn a few commands of Linux. But I think it is simply impossible. I have downloaded the Debian Manual. I am still searching for a way to access my drives. I don't even know how to copy files in this Operating System. It seems that this operating system is very cAsE-SeNsEtIvE! I read many FAQ's but all the FAQ's tell you is that Linus Para... made Linux with a bunch of Hackers! Then it tells you how good Linux is and how bad windows 95 is. But I haven't come across a single Help file or a FAQ that actually tells you how to use this Operating System. Please send me some info on the basic commands and on how I can connect to internet using Linux. I know there is a isapnp utility and it is supposed to configure my PnP Hardware using the isapnp.conf file (which is a dump from the isapnpdump file). Anyhow, the problem is the diald or the pppd. I don't know. What to do. I am at a stage at which I am pulling out my hair in frustation. Please Help Me. !! Any Help Will Be Highly Appreciated - Thank You-- --- End of Forwarded Message -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: shutdown not unnmounting
Hi I have a 1.1 system (yes, I know that is almost prehistory) but I make money with it almost continuously, it serves the purpose, so I havent messed with it since installation. The problem is that SOMETIMES, not frequently, shutdown -h now will stop before unmounting drives The correct answer is to upgrade, but is there anything I could do in the interim? I have a draconian set of deadlines, and I don't want to do anything that could result in this machine going down for any length of time. --David On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:32:14 +0100 (BST) From: M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Fahnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: shutdown not unnmounting Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:32:23 + Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi, I have a debian system, :) always a good start... and when I do a shutdown* the filesystems won't be automatically unmounted which causes a lot of problems. Anybody know how to fix this problem? * That is either: shutdown -r now or shutdown -y -i0 -g0 You want shutdown -h now hth, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. National Security Council nuclear explosion Treasury destabilize Pakistan Delta Force atomic bomb India data encryption data encryption munitions counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet clipper terrorist hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit spy
Re: modprobe
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Tony Crawford wrote: On 18 Aug 98 at 23:10, count zero wrote: when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10 Me too! Can you please forward any personal replies you get that don't go through the list? Hi Please, either cc: me any replies, or perhaps post a summary. Many thanks David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business.
RE: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Hank Fay and others wrote: Well you could also try typing setfont default8x16 This is the only thing that would sort out an old Avance card that I have when i exitted from X to a VC. But I'm not optimistic, as my problem affected *all* VCs. [..] Yup; it affects all vc's, just as you say. It looks like I need to reset the video card to another mode; the question is how. s My current approach is to nuke the partitions and start over. g Does the setfont command clear the console for anyone? I think part of this may have already been said, but I've been off for several days and cleaned my mail instead of reading it. Sorry. I have not found that this problem affects all virtual consoles. If so, I have been lucky. Such a situation suggests a mode on the video card itself that is hard to get out of, and that any solution will require a program to reset the card to some reasonable mode. Such a program will, of course, require carnal knowledge of the cards internal codes etc. At risk of being superfluous, this solution fixes systems that use a TVG 9400, an ATI Wonder, and another that uses a diamond speed star card. On neither machine does the problem affect affect more than one console. Typing directly control O to the console doesn't work for me, even preceeded by a control V. I get 04:53:53:~/projects/fix-console$^O bash: : command not found both for control o attempts and for the escape c solution below. My fix, from someone who told me about this: Linux consoles behave as a superset of vt100. My experience is that the vt100 reset codes sent raw to the console will reset a scrambled console. You can cat a file containing the character control O: With emacs, I create a new file called controlO and type control Q control O, exit and save. Any editor that allows entry of binary works. I have a short script, fixit, that does nothing but cat the file: #!/bin/sh cat controO This fixes the scrambled console for me. An alternative is to put the escape character followed by 'c' in the file that is cat'ed to the screen. This clears the screen and restores the console. This also works for me. I have not needed this since 1.1 where the reset command invariably fixes the problem. Even cat'ing an executable does not give problems. I can only scramble a console now by cat'ing a dvi file. Please forgive repetition, and I hope this helps. Some one helped me in the past with this problem. Linux, because, Reboots are for hardware upgrades. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. National Security Council nuclear explosion Linda Tripp destabilize Kenneth Starr Delta Force atomic bomb India Monica Lewinski data Ghanna encryption munitions counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion
Re: Windows95 programs and X-Windows
Rolando Manchado wrote: Can Windows95 programs run on X-Windows? On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Shaleh wrote: The easy answer is no. Different binaries, libraries, Operating Sytems, etc. HOWEVER there is a project called WINE. This is a project to allow WinOS apps to on X. It is both an emulator for the binaries and a re-write of the M$ libs. Some things work, many things don't. Give it a shot. Seems to work best if you install the apps from withing Windows, then reboot and run them with WINE. Can you tell me how much of Office 97 works with WINE? What of Lose 3.1 applications? I hope MS Windows 6, but I suspect that is a forlorn hope. It has been a while since I heard anything about WINE. There is also the Willow project. Different philosophy from WINE, as I understand. There may have been changes since I looked (it has been a while.) I recall that Willow had more success with Lose 95, whereas WINE works primarily with Lose 3.1. Non-free WABI may still be available from Caldera for their version of Linux. It is possible that it works with Debian through Alien. I recall that it works will with Lose 3.1 Office applications, and others. Maybe someone else will add to this and perhaps correct my errors. --David -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. National Security Council nuclear explosion Treasury destabilize Pakistan Delta Force atomic bomb India data encryption data encryption munitions counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet clipper terrorist hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit spy
Real Player (was: Re: Star Office)
On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is also how other 'commercial' package files work, i.e. netscape, realplayer, etc. From Real Audio? What package do I down load from Real Audio? I got the Red Hat one, but there is another for ELF Linux. David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business.
Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)
On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Havoc Pennington wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: Where is the documentation for C ? i.e. language help? I have a hard time remembering syntax and stuff.. :) You're best off just buying The C Programming Language (ANSI edition). It isn't very expensive and the hardcopy is handy. There may be some free stuff on the web though, try www.infoseek.com. Please get the companion book to KR ANSI C, namely the C AnswerBook by Tondo and Gimpel. It provides annotated solutions to all the problems in KR. Worth every cent in my book. Look on the publishers web page - they sometimes have useful stuff about their books there -- sometime erata and source code. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business.
Re: Dselect script
On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, Cristov Russell wrote: From: Cristov Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dselect script Recently I read somewhere (possibly on this list) that there is a way to capture what was done during dselect using something like /.../script but they did not go into much detail. Could someone explain to me how to do this? Cristov If you have script on your system, you can make a transcript file of all that goes to the screen during execution of any program. The default file name is 'typescript' and you can name the file on the command line. From the man page for script: Script makes a typescript of everything printed on your terminal. It is useful for students who need a hardcopy record of an interactive session as proof of an assignment, as the typescript file can be printed out later with lpr(1). I have also wished I had kept a record of what happens, particularly when i upgraded from 1.3 to Hamm, when I got a bad Perl package due to an ugly line and bad luck. Hope this helps. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business.
Re: another good book
On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, David Parmet wrote: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:07:27 -0400 (EDT) From: David Parmet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: another good book Can anyone recommend some good reading on basic programming? I have no knowledge aside from knowing a bash shell from a hole in the ground and I'd like to learn some basic skill so I can figure out how this thing works? Hi David Which book I would recommend depends on what language you want or need to program in. If C++ and you have limited programming skills, then I'd say buy Walt Savitch, Problem Solving with C++, AWL. Caveat: I ghost authored the recent revision with Walt's close supervision, so that really isn't blowing my own horn too much - we do use it in our course here at WCU. It has an annotated bibliography of books in programming in C++ that is pretty good. If you are already understand problem solving and need to learn C, this can be learned from the Kernighan and Ritchie, ANSI C language, from Prentice Hall, or one of the plethora of other C++ beginning programming books. Beware of books that deal with the synatx of a language without dealing with much programming. KR does not suffer from that problem. Frankly, for Debian or any Linux distribution, shell programming, Perl, and Java Script might be better places to put your effort. C and C++ will take a couple of years of part time effort to get really good at. Perl etc. perhaps less time. The hard part of learning to program well is problem solving, not learning the syntax of the language. Write me back and I'll send some recommendations on Perl. I'm sure the others on this list will have some further, excellent recommendations. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business.
Re: Where's bo?
Tres, and all: I find myself in the boat with Tres as well. We are trying to find a CD of snapshot of what 1.3.1r-most recent was. There are sites who still have bo, but for how long? Would that something could be done. What do redhat and suse do about upgrades and recent distributions? --David On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Tres Hofmeister wrote: Subject: Where's bo? [...] Where can I find the bo distribution? It seems to have been removed from ftp.debian.org and its mirrors. I'm definitely heading toward hamm; I've been running it on my desktop for a couple of months. [...] If Debian would like to see wide use in institutions like ours, we need support for the previous release(s) until upgrades are possible. I think it's a great fit, otherwise! Sorry if I sound cranky! ;) Any info. would be appreciated. Thanks... --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. National Security Council nuclear explosion Treasury destabilize Pakistan Delta Force atomic bomb India data encryption data encryption munitions counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet clipper terrorist hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit spy -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Where's bo?
George Thanks for the URLs for Bo. Seriously though, how long will this distribution be out there? 6 months would be more than enough for our needs. David On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote: Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 14:30:42 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: Where's bo? ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/debian/dists/bo/ ftp://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/ http://debian.midco.net/debian/Archive/ ftp://ftp.fifi.org/pub/debian/bo/ http://www.fifi.org/debian/bo/ ftp://ftp.shorelink.com/debian/bo is yet another. George Bonser Given enough time and money, Microsoft will invent Linux. --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Source Navigator (lite)
All Please post if you have that. Ed: If you get it, either post or send me private mail, if you will please. --David On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Young, Ed wrote: Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 12:34:48 -0600 From: Young, Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Source Navigator (lite) Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:35:02 + Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; Has anyone used the Cygnus Solutions Source Navigator? I understand that there was an eval version around called Source Navigator Lite that only limited the size of projects it could handle, but had all the functionality of the full version. It's not available from Cygnus anymore. It loaded right into bo. Does anyone still have the tar ball for this lite version? I'd like to try it out. Thanx, Ed * Ed Young(303)706-5425 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: More Urgent HAMM Install help needed
On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More Urgent HAMM Install help needed In a reply to an installation question you said (in part) With Debian you With Debian you only have to keep a minimum of configuration data stored on a couple of floppies to completely rebuild a working system from scratch. Is there a list somewhere of what those configuration data are? Hi Chuck, I didn't see a reply to this, and I would very much like to know the files that contain the configuration for everything that makes the system mine. I know most all of it is in /etc, but some of that is not needed, and some more is likely needed. I would like to know which is which, and where :) --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: lexmark printers
On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, G. Crimp wrote: There are some pretty good deals on Lexmark printers at my University. They use PCL5 and PS emulation. Anybody have any experience with Lexmark's emulation and Linux ? I've heard that the emulation isn't perfect. Since they don't support Linux, they are not likely to offer any solutions. Any one come across any notable problems with the printer output ? We use a Lexmark Optra RX+ networked. I have direct net access from my Linux box, works good in either postscript mode or sending PCL or ascii files to it. It also works well with direct parallel port connection. I'll send the print cap and the other setings for the network connection if you want. --David -- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. countefeit atomic bomb India data encryption data encryption munitions counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet clipper terrorist National Security Council nuclear explosion Treasury destabilize Pakistan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Time is still not right.
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: 'man tzconfig' should explain it for you. I have the same problem as Keith, my hardware clock doesn't report the same thing as date. I have been following the discourse with interest. I have a Hamm system, and two Bo systems, neither of which has a tzconfig, (locate tzconfig reports nothing) nor a man page for tzconfig. I have read the scripts in rc*, and have tried to follow the boot up that activate these scripts by following inittab etc. I still need help. Please advise what package(s) may need to be installed, and how to fix this problem. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet clipper terrorist National Security Council nuclear explosion Treasury destabilize Pakistan Delta Force atomic bomb India data encryption data encryption munitions -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: giving dos/win3.1/win95 access to a linux partition
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Micha Feigin wrote: can i give my dos (win 3.1 right now) or win95 access to my linux partition, at list for reading? If so, how is it done? Micha There is an program called ext2tool that allows dos and (I think) Lose 3.1 read access to your ext2 file systems, if the drive is controlled by the bios. If I understand ide drives, they are all controlled by the bios, that is not an issue for most folk. SCSI is different, I had to turn on the bios on the drives I wanted dos to be able to read, since the bios only needs to control the boot drive. The README doesn't say it works under Lose 95, but if the code will run, I can't see why it wouldn't work. It depends only on bios access to the drive. I have attached the README from the Version 1.1, dated 9 January 1996. The zip file should be on sunsite. I have not looked for a Debian package. I wish you luck. --David EXT2 TOOLS == Version 1.1 - 9 January 1996 CHANGES SINCE VERSION 1.0 - E2LS now supports wildcards. A bug relating to handling disks with more than 2 partitions within an extended partion has been corrected. The need to customize E2CD for 4DOS has been removed. INTRODUCTION The ext2 tools are a set of programs that enable you to read a Linux ext2 file system under DOS. The ext2 tools consist of the following programs: E2CAT analogous to the Linux cat command E2CD analogous to the Linux cd command E2CP analogous to the Linux cp command E2LS analogous to the Linux ls command E2PARTlists hard disk partitions E2PWD analogous to the Linux pwd command All these programs have been compiled with GCC and require the GO32 DOS extender in order to execute. There are currently no programs for writing to an ext2 file system and probably never will be unless someone else would care to make them. The programs are distributed in both binary and source code form. COPYRIGHT - The ext2 tools are copyright (C) 1995 Claus Tondering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Note: The ext2fs routines are copyright (C) 1993, 1994 Theodore Ts'o. For further copyrights, see the source code files. The ext2 tools may be redistributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, which is included in the file called COPYING. For your convenience the GO32 program has been included in this distribution. It is part of the DJGPP distribution, which can be obtained by anonymous FTP from oak.oakland.edu in the directory /SimTel/vendors/djgpp. DISCLAIMER -- This is free software. Use it at your own risk. If it doesn't work, it's your problem, not mine. BASIC PRINCIPLES Before you use the ext2 tools, you must set the environment variable E2CWD using a statement similar to the following: SET E2CWD=129:5 or SET E2CWD=129:5:234 The three numbers after the equals sign are interpreted thus: The first number (129 in the above example) identifies the physical disk on which the ext2 file system is located. The number is used as the second parameter to the DOS biosdisk() routine (BIOS interrupt 0x13). Typical values are: 0 for A: disk 1 for B: disk 128 for first hard disk 129 for second hard disk (See the 'BUGS' section at the end of this document for information about using a third hard disk.) The second number (5 in the above example) is the number of the disk partition on which the ext2 file system is located. This number is typically part of the Linux file name for the disk device. If, for example, you are used to referring to the disk as /dev/hdb5 under Linux, the partition number is 5. The E2PART program can help you identify the partitions. The third number is the inode number of the directory that is to be your current working directory. If this number is omitted, 2 (the root inode number) is used. If you don't know what an inode is, don't worry. Just omit the final number from E2CWD. Note: File names starting with / will be interpreted relative to the root directory on the particular disk identified by the E2CWD environment variable. Only E2LS supports wildcards. Be sure to have the GO32.EXE program somewhere in your PATH. E2CAT - SYNOPSIS E2CAT [-bt] pathname DESCTIPTION The E2CAT program will copy the contents of the file identified by ext2 pathname to the standard output. The following options are available: -b Binary mode. No translation performed. -t Text mode (default). LF translated to CR/LF. E2CD SYNOPSIS E2CD pathname DESCRIPTION The pathname must identify an ext2 directory. That directory is made the current working directory. NOTE E2CD is a .BAT file that creates another .BAT file (called
RE: Syquest
'Erik Mathisen' [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: I am new to this list and to Debian. I have a computer with a Syquest SparQ drive on it. Each cartridge holds 1GB. I was wondering if any one could tell or point me to detail instructions on how to install Debian onto this disk. Thanks Erik If it is a scsi disk, on a scsi controller, you treat is like any scsi disk... /dev/sd* I have a smaller syquest, works that waay. Someone else addresssed the parallel port and ide cases. Luck to you, Eric. --DAvid -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: AFIO usage...
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Jay Barbee wrote: I was wondering how I would use AFIO to replace they way I use tar. Here is a sample: tar c -X /root/backup/exclude -f /mnt/scratch/linux/backup.tar / What I do not know how to do is exclude several file which are listed in the file exclude which looks like: --- /cdrom /home/public/old-system-backup/* cache* core --- The TAR command works, but I cannot figure out how to use AFIO in the same manner. Thanks, --Jay Jay, I didn't see anyone answer your question, so I dug out of my files this extract from the man pages that I give to students who are beginnning with Linux. Maybe with this and the man page you can figure a solution to your problem. I see no really good way to provide an exclude file. Exclude patterns work pretty well though. Maybe someone will someone will tell both of us how, if there is a way to do that. All standard disclaimers apply :) --David Man page says: ... | afio -o [ options ] archive : write archive afio -i [ options ] archive : install archive afio -t [ options ] archive : list table-of-contents of archive afio -r [ options ] archive : verify archive against filesystem afio -p [ options ] directory [ ... ] : copy files Frequently used options: -v -Z -F -K -n -s volsize -b blocksize -y pattern -Y pattern Simplest case first: Unlike tar which traverses the directory structure in accord with the pattern you provide, afio takes a stream of paths to the files from the standard input. To generate your file list, you might do this: cd root of the directory tree you want archived find . -print filelist This produces your file list. You can edit it, if the files you want to save do not change backup to backup you can just do this: cat filelist | afio -o archive-name.afio This will save all the files in filelist to the archive named archive-name.afio. Use -Y pattern (see below) to exclude things. To get a listing of the files in the archive, afio -t archive-name.afio To get an ls -l like listing, afio -tv archive-name.afio To verify afio -r archive-name.afio This will complain about missing files, and if a file is different from the archive version, afio complains about a corrupt archive. And to install the archive, afio -i archive-name.afio You can install just one file with afio -i -y path-to-file archive-name.afio Continuting the man page: -o, reads pathnames from the standard input and writes an archive. With -t, reads an archive and writes a table-of-contents to the standard output. With -i, installs the contents of an archive relative to the working directory. With -p, reads pathnames from the standard input and copies the files to each directory. With -r, reads archive and verifies it against the filesystem. This is useful for verifying tape archives. Creates missing directories as necessary, with permissions to match their parents. Generates sparse filesystem blocks (with lseek(2)) when possible. Removes leading slashes from pathnames when reading, writ- ing, and cataloging an archive, unless instructed not to. Supports multi-volume archives during interactive opera- tion (i.e., when /dev/tty is accessible and SIGINT is not being ignored). Frequently used options: -v -Z -F -K -n -s volsize -b blocksize -y pattern -Y pattern -vverbose. -ZPass archive through gzip on archive, and through gunzip when unarchiving.j -Fsays, this is a floppy disk. causes O_SYNC mode with Linux. with later kernels, detects floppy errors -Kverify output against what is in the memory copy of the disk (a -F is required as well) READ THE MAN PAGE -nprotect newer existing files (by file mod time) -s volsizelimits the size of a multi-volume archive - say you are backing to floppies of 1.9 MByte size (one of the larg formats) or multiple small tapes. requires -f, see man page. -b blocksize read or write blocks of this size. You need to know the block size for the tape device. For floppies you can use block size of a disk block, or a multiple (say a track, or cylender size). The following patterns are shell regular expresssions: -y pattern save ONLY file with name that match this pattern -Y pattern EXCLUDE files with names matching this pattern -w filenametreats each line in filename as a -y pattern, a way to get an include list. --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL
Re: emacs *very slow* to launch
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Nick Moffitt wrote: On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Eric House wrote: [...] I launch emacs by typing 'emacs' at the cmd line, and it takes *at least* five minutes to come up. Once up, it works just fine. And other apps don't seem to have this problem: they launch as quickly as ever. This is the behavior I've come to expect from emacs. Eighteen Megs And Constantly Swapping. It's a huge app! What sort of hardware do you have? What version of Emacs? I wouldn't run it on anything sub-pentium, myself. Nick, At risk of starting/continuing an editor war thread, I point out that Emacs is indeed very large, but a 5 minute load time suggests you have a problem. I run Emacs all the time on a 486-33 ISA machine with 16 Megs of RAM and an ide hd. I just timed Emacs loading in less than 9 seconds on that system, a far cry from 5 minutes. A heavily loaded disk i/o subsystem will contribute to slow loading of any large program, not just emacs. What about gcc? Does it load slowly under similar circumstances? (It is hard to tell the difference between runs slowly and loads slowly for a non-interactive program. All suggestions appreciated.) I hope someone will help further. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Learning C
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote: I guess I could probably RTFM, but there you are. I know basic C, and I'd like to get used to using libraries. Debian (Linux, generally) being what it is, I'm pretty sure there are some packages in the devel section that will come with docs that tell me how to take my C further (I'd like ultimatly to do .debs :) ). Can someone point me in the right direction? Matthew Much of Linux programming is essentially UNIX programming. Rich Stevens has a book I like, Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment. You could look at the recent Linux Application Development by Eric Troan and Michael Johnson. If you can find it, look at this in a book store before you buy. Or maybe someone will remark on it. I like it, but it is not for a beginner in any sense of the word. There are two older books that I recall fondly: The Unix Programming Environment by Kernighan and Pike, and Advanced UNix Programming, by Marc Rochkind. I had a student recently to steal a copy of Rochkind, it must be useful;) You will have to convert the KLR C from these books to ANSI C, and look up some of the system call details in the man pages to make things work as advertised. These books are good enough to make this worth while. The problems are very good. I'm sure others will add better books to this list. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. National Security Council nuclear explosion Treasury destabilize Pakistan Delta Force atomic bomb India data encryption data encryption munitions counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet clipper terrorist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Bernt T. Hansen wrote: Johann asks: How do you clean the heads? [...] Bernt responds: I have an internal SCSI tape drive (1/4). All I do is open the system up to expose the tape heads and use stereo casette tape cleaning fluid on Qtips on the heads. I have 2 bottles of cleaning fluid (Aiwa: Head Cleaner, and Pinch Roller Cleaner) Standard cassette tape head cleaning stuff. It works great. [...] I have heard that it is better to use the lint-free head cleaning swabs that can be bought at Radio Shack and other places, rather than Qtips. Does anyone know if lint-free is enough better to worry about it? --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. National Security Council nuclear explosion Treasury destabilize Pakistan hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit spy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Less in color?
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Asher Haig wrote: Is there a version of Less that will support color ls? Asher My settings are as follows. I have no trouble with ls |less. 09:49:54:~$alias ls alias ls='/usr/bin/color-ls $LS_OPTIONS ' 09:49:58:~$echo $LS_OPTIONS --8bit --color=tty -F --David David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. clipper National Security nuclear explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb India Mossad data encryption munitions Pakistan hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word for Linux
Hi Kevin I think there are better programs that this, but I have a short program called catdoc. If you are willing to edit a little, strings is better, particularly if you have a bunch of frames you want the text out of. I'll send it if anyone wants it. --David On Thu, 28 May 1998, Kevin wrote: Is there a *.doc (MS Word) viewer / converter for linux is it a deb pkg? -- -- mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux -- Use the source!! http://users.townsqr.com/gnol/ Power is as unix does -- L I N U X 2.0 -- What do you want to connect to today? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File-system on tape
Hi Ted There was a paper, I forget the locateion or details, but it concerned a log structured file system that would be made to order for tape file system. writes at the end, maitains a log of space allocation, Dang! I wish I'd paid more attention to the paper. The Sprite operating (now defunct) was associated with log structured file systems. Not just for tapes, either.Log structured file systems work good for disks. Maybe you can chase the details down. I'll keep on the look out and send you a note If I find it. --David On Wed, 27 May 1998, Ted Harding wrote: On 27-May-98 Stephen Carpenter wrote: On Tue, May 26, 1998 at 10:15:58PM -0600, Lazar Fleysher wrote: Is it possible to create a file system on a tape drive ( like on mainframes) and use it as a disk? I know it is very slow, but is it possible? That is really very sick and twisted to even think of such a thing... hmm I wonder why I never thought of it :) Of course it CAN be done (and when tape was the main storage medium for larger archives it often was done). But only dire necessity would justify setting up a fullly functional file system on tape, because of the sequential access. For instance, you can't readily recycle freed-up space on a tape after deleting a file: OK if the next file to go in is shorter than the freed space, but if it's longer then either it all goes at the end (if there's room) or part goes in the gap and the rest at the end/next gap, which might mean several minutes to reposition for the next chunk of the file; and collating the logic required to simultaneously retrieve several files stored fragmentally in this way is likely to lead to mental dysfunction of the programmer (sick and twisted indeed). If not, is it possible to have several files on one tape and how to access them? As Steve says, tar + mt provide the basic tape resources for reading, writing and positioning. You could reserve a fixed size block at the beginning to store a file as a pseudo directory, say with space for 1024 entries each with 256 bytes, so you get filename, size, date and sequential position[s] on tape. You read this off first and use it to plan the rest of the operations. When you've changed the tape contents you update this directory and write it back to its old position. You could even organise fragmented storage this way ... Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 27-May-98 Time: 21:37:37 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment vs Beginning Linux Programming
Hi folks Stevens' books are first rate. Not a cull in the lot. Dont alwasy ahve all the details I want though. While it is NOT beginning Linux programming, the book by Eric Troan and Michael Johnsons, Linux Application Development from Addison Wesley Longman deserves a look. AWL usually has lots of stuff on their books on their web site, www2.awl.com. Use the search engine to look for Linux Application Development. BTW If you go there, please complain that the web site is distinctly text mode browser unfriendly, dang near unusable by Lynx. David LInux: the free Un*x for i[3456]86, MIPS SPARC ALPHA available NOW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's first knowing of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus Torvalds. Would anyone have any idea if this is available, or even if it was saved? Or even where I could start to look for it? Sheesh.. I ask TOO much.. :) I have a file I got somewhere that may have what you need in it. I'm including the first 100 lines or so, if anyone wants it all please mail me. It runs about 500 lines. I'll send it sometime next week. --David To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Subject: Birthday (was Re: Uptime found. Thanks to all) Date: 31 Jul 92 22:15:20 GMT In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duperval Laurent) writes: P.S. BTW, noone answered yet: when is Linux's birthday? Let's have a party! I couldn't for the life of me remember when it all happened, and I don't keep a diary, so I can't give you any exact dates for when linux was born. But I did start to wonder, so I started ftp'ing around for archives of the comp.os.minix group (where I announced it), and this is what I came up with (with some editing). This is just a sentimental journey into some of the first posts concerning linux, so you can happily press 'n' now if you actually thought you'd get anything technical. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT Hello netlanders, Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably) machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be nice. The project was obviously linux, so by July 3rd I had started to think about actual user-level things: some of the device drivers were ready, and the harddisk actually worked. Not too much else. As an aside for all using gcc on minix - [ deleted ] Just a success-report on porting gcc-1.40 to minix using the 1.37 version made by Alan W Black co. Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Could someone please try to finger me from overseas, as I've installed a changing .plan (made by your's truly), and I'm not certain it works from outside? It should report a new .plan every time. So I was clueless - had just learned about named pipes. Sue me. This part of the post got a lot more response than the actual POSIX query, but the query did lure out arl from the woodwork, and we mailed around for a bit, resulting in the Linux subdirectory on nic.funet.fi. Then, almost two months later, I actually had something working: I made sources for version 0.01 available on nic sometimes around this time. 0.01 sources weren't actually runnable: they were just a token gesture to arl who had probably started to despair about ever getting anything. This next post must have been from just a couple of weeks before that release. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: What would you like to see most in minix? Summary: small poll for my new operating system Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons) among other things). I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-) Linus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PS. Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs. It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(. Judging from the post, 0.01 wasn't actually out yet, but it's close. I'd guess the first version went out in the middle of September -91. I got some responses to this (most by mail, which I haven't saved), and I even got a few mails asking to be beta-testers for linux. After that just a few general answers to quesions on the net: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: text mode IDE?
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Dave Elliot wrote: I was wondering if there's a decent text mode IDE for debian/linux. Something similar to RHIDE or Borland's DOS IDE. I would use something for X, but I can't get that working yet. Hopefully someday. Anyways, anything would be great. Thanks for the info. Peace, -dave Dave Emacs in all its glory is almost a text mode ide. Once you realize that you can invoke the compile command directly, using Mx compile, you get the default compile command make -k, which, if you have makefile or Makefile will compile your program. Otherwise, use command line editing commands ( C-a C-k to kill the line, and enter g++ [options] file.cc or g++ file1.cc file2.cc ... The editor will run the compiler in an inferior process, split the screen into two, leave the source in one window, put the compile command in the capture the error messages, if any, in the window with the compile command. Then C-x ` (C-x backtick, the unshifted key with the ~ on it) will scroll both the code screen and the error messages so that the place the compiler detected the error is centered in one window, the error message corresponding is at the top of the compile window. You can fix the error and repeat the C-x ` sequence until the error messages become ones caused by the compiler attempting to fix earlier errors. You can run the debugger in text mode from eamcs as well. I hope there is something that is better than this, but I think this is really neat, for text mode, that is. (Actually, this is writted by an avowed text-mode biggot.) If you will use xemacs in X-window environment, you almost already have an ide. Try it, you will like it. --David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is multitasking.
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 04:43:41PM +0200, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: I happen to have some very valuable information on how to play the classical guitar. Would you like me to post that to debian-user? YES! Seriously, I play guitar and double bass. Another point is that the debian-user list is a list for debian user, and therefore the topics vary from technical discussion to rants about windows. I learned a lot on the list that is not necessarily bound to Debian. But I should stop, as you don't want to hear this... HEAR HEAR! This is not inappropriate discussion for the Deb User list. I too play double bass myself (or bass violin as Professor Murray Grodner called it, and the folk who succeeded Professor Grodner and his wife at Lemur Music call it as well.) Marcus, I share your classic guitar interest, as well, though I certainly wouldn't say I _play_ classical guitar. I have attempted to play it, and would not find a word or two about either topic inappropriate. If you want to talk double bass, instruments, music, etc, I'll be delighted to talk to you about it. Is this is maybe more border line than Windows 95 crud software? David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux the choice of a GNU generation. FREE UN*X NOW for the i[3456...]86, alpha, sparc, mips -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP LaserJet 6Lse and Linux???
HI Does nay one know if anHP LaserJet 6Lse will talk with Linux? Or better, do you know a a way to make it print postscript (in software) from Linux? It understands Enhanced PCL 5 printer control language. My printer died, and I have a short deadline. M$Word 6 format is required by my publisher. So I bought the HP LaserJet 6Lse, which is known to work with Win3.1/95 amd M$Word6. It appeared to be the only printer in the store that did not say something horrible such as WinPrinter or Windows ONLY. Hope someone has an answer --David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Summary: YES. Re: HP LaserJet 6Lse and Linux???
Thanks to: Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] And maybe others, I sent the message, ate lunch and here are the answers! I asked: Does nay one know if an HP LaserJet 6Lse will talk with Linux? Or better, do you know a a way to make it print postscript (in software) from Linux? It understands Enhanced PCL 5 printer control language. Summary: Yes, use Ghostscript, it translates PostScript = PCL quite well. It should work with ghostscript, using one or more of the following drivers which exist in gs-aladdin 5.0: ljjet4 lj4dith lj5mono lj5gray I you want to use magicfilter, set it up as an hp 4 or 4L. Apparently the 4 is better with resolution, but I haven't gotten around to changing mine. --David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is multitasking.
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, shaul wrote: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is multitasking. Can you prove that Win95 is just pretending to be multitasking ? What about Win98 ? Any damned operating system that has to STOP me from entering data to reunumber or print a file may be multitasking, but most certainly that application does NOT take advantage of the OS. Beyond that, I can't prove anything. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Mike wrote: Hope I got the right e-mail address, Just heard about Linux and was wanting to try it out but do not know where to get it. Thanks, Mike Mike, please set your Netscape mailer to send only text. Many of these guys will just grab the delete key if you send html, which is Netscape's default. In fact I am guilty of that as well. Linux is free, the easiest way is buy a $3 CD from www.cheapbytes.com or to download the 6 boot disks from www.debian.org, or sunsite.unc.edu, and install from the net -- IF you ahve a fast net connection. If not, then a CD is likey best. You have to do a bit of searching on sunsite, but debian.org cd to 'bo' aka 'stable' is fairly straightforwd. I just connected to www.debian.org to look. Prowl around. Read. Then click at Getting Debian ... The distribution is not small, and you will need to decide what you need. If you can run Windows 95 you can run Debian quite satisfactorily. But you will need to repartition you disk Lots of luck. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize
Re: clean shutdown
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, David B Wilson wrote: Is there a way to do a clean shutdown without becoming root? (Preferably still restricting access to those who can push the power button.) David, You can do a clean shutdown as a non-root user if you have planned for it as root. You can set Control-Alt-Del up to do a shutdown. My Debian system came up that way when I installed. I think they all do. However, my system at work has this in /etc/inittab: # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. #ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -r now Some administrator here is paranoid. So look in /etc/inittab and if that line is commented, uncomment it, then you can have a reasonably safe shutdown as non-root. David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Server(s) Needed=DO NOT SPAM THIS LIST
WHOEVR YOU ARE: DO NOT SEND BULK MAIL TO THIS LIST. THE MAIL SERVERS THIS LIST USES ARE DONATED FREE, GRATIS, SO THE MEMBERS CAN DEVELOP FREE SOFTWARE. YOU COST THIS PROJECT MONEY, REAL MONEY BY SENDING SPAM TO THIS MAILING LIST DO NOT SEND BULK MAIL TO THIS LIST. YOU HAVE GONE TO A GOATS HOUSE FOR WOOL. ASKING THIS MAILING LIST FOR A BULK MAIL SERVER IS LIKE ASKING A MUGGING VICTIM IF HE WANTS SLAPPED. STOP IT. We have legal recourse and will take all measures available to us under law. DO NOT SEND BULK MAIL TO THIS LIST. I am not a developer, but I have great respect for those who do, and am a beneficiary of their gift of free software. PLEASE STOP GETTING IN THE WAY!!! DO NOT SEND BULK MAIL TO THIS LIST. --David Teague On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, If you or someone you know has an available email server we are interested in renting it by the month. The server must be located outside of the United States and must strip all incoming headers. The server will be used for Bulk Emailing Purposes. We will pay $500 United States Dollars per month of use per server. We must be assured that the server will not be shut down for any reason. Additionally, we must have full telnet access to setting up accounts on the server. If you do not have such a server yourself please let us know of someone who does. We will pay a finders fee to you if we use a system that you refer us to. Please email us back at:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Email us back today with your information. Thank you, - max2001bulkisp.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP DAT drives
On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: Does anyone out there have experience with Hewlett-Packard SCSI DAT drives, specifically the 12/24 GB models? I'm thinking about getting a backup system for my computer (which has 12 GB of HDDs), and this seems to be the best deal out there. Do they cooperate nicely with other devices (HDDs) on a SCSI bus? Does `dump' work okay with them? How loud is one of them; would it wake up me or my roommate when it kicks in for a backup at 3:00 a.m.? Ben, I have one of the smaller HP DAT drives. It is dead. HP wants $25/hour to merely discuss the repair. Unless you have some compelling reason to use HP, or DAT, you might consider an alternative to HP. I have used Travan4 drives, though this may not have the capacity you require. Just a piqued ex- HP dat drive user's comment. To try to answer part of your question: I have used SCSI drives of several varieties and manufacturers. I have never had an incompatibilty to occur -- except when I put two devices on the bus with the same scsi ID ;) or had a bad cable (obviously my responsibility.) That is the one great thing about SCSI devices. If anyone knows where I might get my drive repaired - without giving up blood or body parts prior to the repair, I'd appreciate a note. Ben, I wish you luck in your search. --David Thanks in advance, Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Create Special Boot Disks??
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jay Barbee wrote: If the stock 1.3.1 Rescue disk will not boot up a system with an Adaptec SCSI controller, do I have any other options for getting this to work? Are there special rescue disks out there for this sort of thing? Jay I see this is your second request. Nobody has answered this, so I'll hazard a response. If I'm in error, I know someone will correct me ;) The boot (rescue) disks use syslinux to boot the kernel. The instructions on the disk say you can put any kernel on the disk and name it linux. Then you can use the disk to boot. I had trouble with the modules, so you should put all the modules you are going to need for install (in my case, I had to have SCSI CD rom support). Then ask on this list, they KNOW and WILL help. Please look at the rescue disk on an msdos machine and confirm this. I had to do this when I booted my system at home with AHA 1542, then later AHA 2840 SCSI controllers, but that was back in the Deb 0.93 and 1.1 days. Lots of luck. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is this the end of debian?
On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, ' ALLAN W. BART wrote: is this the end of debian as we know it. i am wondering about this- any thoughts. Allan Well, Bruce is leaving, but Ian is still out there. I think Dale Scheetz is immersed in his book and the support for it. I don't see his posts much any more. There are many developers. Who are the Debian officers? I don't think one person is vital, but with many who don't want to market Debian. ... We _are_ going to miss Bruce. Face it, Red Hat has a bunch of Marketroids who are really good at getting the name out. (Even if they do have the reputation of pushing a product with broken packages out the door (before it is ready.)) We could use a couple of marketroids ourselves who push a fairly slickly packaged product - frozen at some point. The profits (and I stronly believe that there could be some significant funds generated like this) would be plowed back into funding developers. RE: Stability: I have been using 1.1 for a year, for exactly what Microsoft promises but fails to provide: a *_stable_* platform (the only crashes I have had that were not attributable to hardware were from Netscape) and a large number of really nice applications. We have been using Debian at school with the upgrades done by my system administrator instead of me, so that system stayed up to date. And it stayed STABLE in spite of use by some of folk whose intent seems to be to take it down:) I think Debian is healthy, but if the young turks drive more leaders off, it may not stay that way. The one constant is change, so the old saw sings. Bruce feels bruised, and I'll bet he is. I'm personally sorry he is going. He was a wise voice among rabble rousers. --david --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup howto needed!
On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: I just received a sony dds tape drive for our linux server and now I would like to do backups of some data. I have tried with tar but with little success; I can do a tar cvf /dev/st0 /home and it seems to do the job. But I wasn't able to recover a single file from the tape with tar xf /dev/st0 file_to_extract. Could somebody help me with basics steps to backup? A howto would be fine, if there is some! Maybe there is a better way to do! Someone here? Mario I'm going through that wih my SCSI QIC-3080 tape drive. I have been able to backup a small colletion of files and restore them using the commands I will list here. I am using afio. My commands are mt -f /dev/st0 erase (otherwise you don't get reliable results) find . filelist Edit or otherwise adjust filelist Create archive on tape: cat filelist | afio -ovZ /dev/st0 To get a directory of the tape archvie, afio -tvZ /dev/st0 Note that this accepts some defaults you may not find desirable. Please read the man page. Your mileage may vary. To extract the whole archive afio -ivnZ /dev/st0 to extract files matching a pattern, afio -ivnZ -y include-pattern -Y exclude-pattern /dev/st0 These patterns are shell regular expressions. There are many free packages that do backups, some excellent, some so-so. There are some commercial packages for Linux (Bru, which I don't use. I only recall the name, and that some commercial Linux distributes Bru with Linux.) I found some scripts in /usr/doc/examples/afio/* I may use, or perhaps I wlll use them for suggestions for my own scripts. I hope this this helps. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize
Re: I am leaving Debian
On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Bruce Perens wrote: There was some question on this list yesterday regarding whether I would leave Debian. It is indeed true. I will remain as president of SPI and will redirect SPI's mission to be for all free software rather than just for Debian. I'm sorry it had to be this way, but I feel that my mission to bring free software to the masses really isn't compatible with Debian any longer, and that I should be working with one of the more mainstream Linux distributions. Bruce I am one of the users in the trences who appreciates your work for Debian. You have provided decisions when decisions needed to be made. Your decisions have appeared to me to be thoughtful and wise. Your departure causes me pause. I appeal to you not to leave Debian. If you do leave, I wish you the very best that life has to offer. --David Teague --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the cheapest SCSI board supported?
On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Glenn Tenney KOTJ wrote: 2. What's the cheapest SCSI board I can add that will work for this purpose... and ideally maybe allow some other devices in the future? I found an Adaptec AVA 1505 at Fry's for about $64. There was some clone cheaper, but would have cost more because I'd have need a special cable. Is this Adaptec card going to work? Glenn Tenney KOTJ The email address has been changed since spam is not allowed here, but you can figure it out... Glenn Email address: :) thanks for mentioning it - saved me a bounce, I hope. Adaptec AVA 1505? I can't help there. I'm still using 2.027 and 2.029 kernels. Those sources don't mention a 1505. The AVA refers to the BIOS on the card, unless I am badly mistaken. I grep'ed for 1505 in the kernel source directory, in /usr/src/kernel-source-/drivers/scsi/* Your card should be mentioned there if the driver supports your card. Hope this helps. Now MY quesion: How can I get Frye's mail address or web page. Web searches on obvious strings don't yield a web page nor an email address. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cannot find map file
Hi For some time my system gives me this error mesage on boot up. Cannot find map file My messages log files only go back to Feb of this year. Each of these have have this error message at each boot. I think the error goes all the way back to installation of Debian 1.1 over a year ago. This message occurs the following context: Mar 15 12:16:11 frodo syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Mar 15 12:16:11 frodo kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Mar 15 12:16:12 frodo syslogd 1.3--0#6: restart. Mar 15 12:16:12 frodo kernel: Cannot find map file. [] I am (still) running Debian 1.1 on a 486/66 with 16 MB Ram and a AHA2840 SCSI controller and several disks. While I am not aware of any problems, I want to know whether this is inoccuous. Do I need to fix this? I'm about to upgrade to Hamm. I don't really want to do anything about this unless it will give me grief in the upgrade. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SEUL: Anybody home
Hi David: You write: From: IN%[EMAIL PROTECTED] David Cary 16-MAR-1998 01:55:25.72 To: IN%[EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith Dart, IN%[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subj: RE: SEUL: Anybody home I just installed Debian on a fresh system last week just for the experience. (Anyone want to see my ~8 KB stream-of-consiousness notetaking as I was installing it ?) Would you please post the file, mail me an attached copy or (perhaps best) post a URL? The most obvious flaw was that once the standard text-mode UNIX was up and running, there wasn't any hint as to what to do next to get graphics going. (run deselect, pick X Windows, let dselect install it, run the XConfigurator, run startx). That is true. I'm still (after years using LInux, unfortunately) a newbie on a whole lot, and configuring X still gives me grief --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux
All: I send a mesages of frustration which got there, and one that had a reasonable tone that did not make it. The wrong message got thru. Please accept my apology. Several have sent 'corrective' messages, whose flame termperature was lower than perhaps it should or could have been. Thanks, esp to the person who pointed out ot me that the mail machine at debian.org had crashed. --David. On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: I cannot get a message to this [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Everything I send to debian-user@lists.debian.org bounces. No it doesn't. This message appeared on the list. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off Subject: Mother board inquiry
Hi I hope someone can send or point me to specs on a motherboard. I want to install this in my wife's machine. We plan to run a dual boot Linux/ Lose95. It is a 486 Dx2/100 PCI mother board having the designation PVI-486SP3 Rev 1.21 stenciled on it. If you know who makes this board or have a manual (or can point me to this information) please let me know. The bios is marked Award Software INC (c)1995, ISA/PCI 486 S/N: 818932326 V_ The support chips (all 2 of them) are marked SiS 85C496 and SiS 85C497. There are 3 PCI, 3 ISA, and 1 PCI/ISA combination peripheral slots. Thanks for any light you can shed on this. ==David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux
Joel I cannot get a message to this [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Everything I send to debian-user@lists.debian.org bounces. Please tell me what address you mail postings to to get them accepted, and please mail me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks, David Teague On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Joel Mason wrote: Hello, My name is Joel and I am 16 years old. I am emailing you because I need help downloading, installing, and useing Linux. So could you please send me step by step on how to do those things. I would really appriciate it. Thank you. PS- Could you also tell me where I can download Linux for free, and what to download. Thanks. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All my posts to debian-user bounce
Shaul, You are a frequent poster to this list. Everything I have sent to the address debian-user@lists.debian.org or [EMAIL PROTECTED] has bounced the last few days. I chose one of your messages to r(eply to in hopes that you would look at my mail headers and tell me what is wrong. I have mailed the majordomo server, asking for instructions, but that did not help me. I think I am using the addresses it suggests. If this is a transient problem, and this actually get posted, then I hope all your folk on the list will please accept my apology for adding to mailing list noise. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on an 8086
Hi: The inquiry below may well be better answered with Minix. There was a project porting Linux to the 8086. As I recall, this was intended to develop code for embedded projects. Would someone post the name, please? --David On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Tonetti.doc, R Tonetti wrote: : Hi everibody! : : I have got an Olivetti 8086, 1MB RAM, 100MB harddisk, 3.5 floppy. Do you : know of a BASIC version of Linux, RedHat or another U*ix dialect that I can : install on it? : Of course, I do not pretend super graphics, 64 virtual consoles c... : : Please reply in English, French, German, Italian or Spanish (pick only one : choice ;-)) ). : : Cheers from N Italy! : : Roberto Hmm, I used to have an Olivetti almost exactly like that. Unfortuntely, Linux (and most any other UNIX) requires at least a 386 class processor (yes, I know Linux runs on non-Intel platforms too :). So, your 8086 isn't going to run Linux at all. However, it may run Minix, which is quite basic. There was a version available via ftp - I'll have to scrounge around to see if I still have the ftp site. You could try a net search. -- Nathan Norman --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems w/ppp dialup and sending mail: SOLVED!
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until recently, that is, when my ISP (campus.mci.net) began bouncing outgoing mail that has an unrecognized domain of origin. [snip] They are trying to look up frodo.cs.wcu.edu as a domain, and failing. Try setting visible_name to their domain: visible_name=cs.wcu.edu Smail will stick your login name in front of this and use it in the SMTP transaction. It won't end up in your headers, but it might suffice to fool your isp. Worked for me when mine did the same thing last year (that is, upgraded sendmail). -- John Hasler John, Bingo! That single change Works like a charm. In .pinerc I set visible_name=cs.wcu.edu, which actually generates an address of a real account, as I have an a login there. The combination creates a name that resolves, and campus.mci takes it. Is it significant to the success of this that the login generated by my longin name here and the domain at wcu is a legitimate account? Many thanks also to Daniel Gross and James Thomas who replied to this question. --David [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problems w/ppp dialup and sending mail
Hi Guys I installed Debian 1.1 and for a year things worked quite well. I could send mail, receive mail via popmail, and use ppp for web access, fpt and telnet. Except for some problems getting logged in last Christmas, which seem to have been resolved all has been well. Until recently, that is, when my ISP (campus.mci.net) began bouncing outgoing mail that has an unrecognized domain of origin. How in the blazes do i get a valid 'domain' I am assigned an ip number each time I log in? I include typical mail message and error that I get when attempting to send from home: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 22 15:22:30 1998 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 98 15:23 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mail failed, returning to sender |- Failed addresses follow: -| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... transport smtp: 551 Unrecognized domain 'frodo.cs.wcu.edu' |- Message text follows: | Received: by frodo.cs.wcu.edu id m0y1E3q-000hZ9C (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.37); Sat, 7 Feb 98 12:29 EST Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: dbt (David B. Teague) Subject: Ch5,6,7 notes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:29:02 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 10874 I include exerpts (I hope appropriate exerpts, I hope you will tell me if you need more): hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost 152.30.5.51 frodo.cs.wcu.edufrodo The 152.30.5.51 is bogus at home, as is the cs.wcu.edu. It is set this way so I can take the machine to work to connect to the net for serious upgrades. 33K is to durned slow. Any of this except 'frodo' is mutable. 'frodo' is my machine's name, I'd very much like to keep that. /etc/smail/config # This is the main Smail configuration file. visible_name=frodo.cs.wcu.edu -domains hostnames=frodo.cs.wcu.edu:frodo:frodo.cs The rest of the conf file is 'out of the box'. I tried changing the host name, the mailer still picks up the visible name here or some other place, and mci bounces the mail. For example hostnames=wcu.campus.mci.net gets me nothing. I tried several variations on settings of hosts and host naes in config files, but I do not seem to be able to get mci to allow me to send mail with any domain name I can guess. I have appended the headers from an earlier successful mail message sent from home to a machine at work in hope that some knowledgable person can see what this ISP requires. Help, please! --David ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Appendix: Full headers from an ealier message successfully sent 2 Dec 1997: Received: from aus-e.mp.campus.mci.net (aus-e.mp.campus.mci.net [208.140.84.25]) by elentari.cs.wcu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23910 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:32:05 -0500 Received: from frodo.cs.wcu.edu ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [208.140.81.233]) by aus-e.mp.campus.mci.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11107; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by frodo.cs.wcu.edu id m0xcv26-000hZ9C (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.37); Tue, 2 Dec 97 11:18 EST Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David B. Teague) Subject: Exercises on subsitution and Translation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:18:46 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: True Type fonts for X11?
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Christopher Barry wrote: [...] Where can I get more fonts, most importantly True Type fonts? Hi Chris I just saw a C.O.L.A. posting of a release of a trutype font program. I include the post verbaim, below, and hope it helps. Is there a Debian package for this? --David Teague Ask me how user interface copyrights and software patents make programming a dangerous business. Reinvigorate the League for Programming Freedom. Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mikko Rauhala) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:11:39 GMT From: Robert Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FreeType 1.0 --- The FREE TrueType Font Engine Old-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:26:25 +0100 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Organization: none Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc X-No-Archive: yes X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP comp.os.linux.announce iQCVAgUBNNcXjVrUI/eHXJZ5AQGz7gQAqpYeoP0XZ2/Nu/dy0Q/ssU5E082hDOjx xlMIF0lGojrEJi4hzFwQe/WnJXMt8m0d0BheUMXeoFMqp487ylMLdT4t2jcovIZP 6vFXrzByl9cFJ+ExvUlf2OtI3UIXZQj+QS5JWBfFFCxgiDsLBtq6aix2y6qpPK3C 9A0QLUCUKVc= =EsAB -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Announcing F R E E T Y P E1 . 0 The Final Release! The FREE TrueType Font Engine Copyright (C) 1996-1998 The FreeType Development Team The FreeType engine is a free and portable TrueType font rendering engine, available in ANSI C and Pascal source code. It has been developed to provide TT support to a great variety of platforms and environments. Notice that FreeType is a *library*. It is *not* a font server for your preferred environment, even though it has been designed to be the basis of many high-level libraries, tools and font servers. It's a clean-room implementation that is not derived from the original TT engine developed by Apple and Microsoft, though it matches it regarding rendering quality. To our knowledge, it's the only royalty-free complete TrueType engine available. For more information, please visit the freetype web site at: http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~robert/freetype.html Begin3 Title: freetype Version:1.0 Entered-date: 28JAN98 Description:truetype font rasterizer Keywords: font truetype rasterizer Author: David Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED], Werner Lemberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maintained-by: Robert Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Primary-site: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/fonts/ Alternate-site: Original-site: ftp://ftp.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/pub/freetype Platforms: Linux, OS/2, MSDOS, Amiga OS, Unix Copying-policy: BSD End - -- This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP. http://www.iki.fi/mjr/cola-public-key.asc has PGP key for validating signature. Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. This group is archived at http://www.iki.fi/liw/linux/cola.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNNcXjFrUI/eHXJZ5AQHoTAP/bAAkunO8tZf96ai4LRU6NKmb3wuV5oP1 kQMire7TMfW0mHrNRnN2yHJ4bGD0sqv426yGHHl8YOw1xNv7QCXfS9OUWtLZrVmh 0jv8WcwKDvYHXKKWPufyCExszqMD6el0eoZuKGJ7SR7B2DAMmsDvLerYO3UUQVox WcUCADTWMZ0= =ftEo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: KING INK
All I called their number, 1-888-248-0837, and left the debian-user mailing list as a 'to be removed' address. I hope I was not the only one to call them. I hate SPAM. --David Teague On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Header: SAVE up to 90% on your PRINTING NEEDS! IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR PLEASE CALL US AT 1-888-248-0837 THIS IS NOT A REPLY ADDRESS --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Somewhat off topic...
On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote: DAVID B. TEAGUE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... Is there a way to program the ppp chat script or otherwise programm a dial loop that will allow me to repeatedly try to connect and start ppp? My pppd tries repeatedly (at least 5 times) to connect; it probably has to do with the fact that I have the presist option in /etc/ppp.options_out. However, a better idea would be to find out why your pppd isn't connecting - what's near the end of your /var/log/ppp.log after an unsuccessful connect attempt? From what you describe, it almost sounds like some of the machines you're dialing into use one connect sequence, and some use another. In this case you need to figure out both types of login sequences and probably need to write an expect script - chap isn't good at deciding between alternatives. I know that chat scripts are written with send:expect pairs, mine is written that way. But there are no decision verbs available that I know about. Would you tell me where to find out how to write the expect script you mention? It isn't in the man pages nor the HOWTO for ppp. The problem is not a connect sequence problem: When I cannot connect, the modems fail to negotiate a connection, so the connect (chat) sequence is not the issue. It is never sent. Hence the redial need. When I try with Kermit, if things are working I get a menu, if not the modems never come to agreement. This is true using Kermit on either of two different machines. These machines use the same telephone line, alternately, of course. The other (non-Linux) machine uses the software provided by the ISP, and it will connect exactly when Linux pppd and my chat script connect. When things are not working, the ISP's software, MS DOS Kermit on that machine, UNIX Kermit on my machine and pppd each fail to have the respective modems connect, until I have tried many times. I know how to program the kermit command language to repeatedly dial until success, I just didn't know how to do that with Linux pppd. Your 'persist' suggestion works nicely for this. BTW I think they fixed the problem at the ISP end, as I have had no instances of this problem in a week or so. With regard to the ISP's equipment, I would guess that the ISP has some good modems/lines and others that are no @[EMAIL PROTECTED] good, and when I try many times, quickly, call is passed to a differnt modem each call, until a modem that will connect is found. At any rate, you intrigue me about the 'expect' script. How do I do that? Thanks! --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: GCC2.8.0
Hi Folks: On January 16, 1998, E.L. Meijer writes: From: IN%[EMAIL PROTECTED] E.L. Meijer (Eric) Subj: gcc 2.8.0 and friends A miracle has happened. For some inexplicable reason the FSF decided to release gcc 2.8.0 and libg++2.8.0, which I had been expecting for ages. Anyone know if it will be included in hamm before it freezes? Could some one tell us the status of the Debian package for gcc 2.8.0? I saw this message middle of January, but have heard other than some 'expectation' that the Debian package might be out before the freeze so gcc 2.8.0 gets into Hamm. David Teague --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Somewhat off topic...
Hi My ISP one of the *.campus.mci.net ISPs. They claim only to support Windoze and refuse to help when I have problems, since I don't use the M$ os. When things work they work very, very well. I have had about a year of consecutive days of connecting the first try any time I try, with only an occasional disconnect. About a month ago, trouble began. Now, sometimes my system connects easily, (today for example) other times the modem does about 3 negotiations, trying to connect at 28.8, then the script quits. Sometimes 20 - 30 attempts with pppd will get a connection. Using kermit, I can program a loop to retry until it conects. I can't start ppp that way. Is there a way to program the ppp chat script or otherwise programm a dial loop that will allow me to repeatedly try to connect and start ppp? Systgem: I'm running Debian 1.3.1 on a 486dx2/66 16 MB RAM 16550 serial ports and an external USR 33.6 voice fax modem (that HAS been repaired by the factory). SCSI disks, trident SVGA and a KFC monitor. --David --- LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [3456]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | Ask me how user interface copyrights software [EMAIL PROTECTED] | patents make programing a dangerous business. spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia ammonium nitrate fuel oil cocaine assassinate counterfeit destabilize -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
