Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest
Hi Geoff The Icom 7800 costs more than most commercial HF transceivers which are all type approved for marine radio or land mobile service. Currently radios have to be Type accepted by the FCC before being sold. I cant see how adding 2 more test criteria onto checklist will add costs when this pre-compliance has to be carried out and payed for anyhow? Anyway its nice to see that Yaesu is using decent RF FETS in their new FT-5000 design. Its also great to see that ADAT is also using advanced RF methods in their radios PA for better linearity. John --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy gm4...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy gm4...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest To: juergen piezo plebia...@yahoo.com Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 2:20 PM Hi John, While I agree with much of your argument, there could be a price to pay in the form of Equipment Type Approval.if further regulations were imposed on the Amateur Service. Without doubt Type Approval would increase the selling price of the black boxes, and put an end to the use of homebrewed equipment. As matters stand, the Amateur Service is viewed by most Authorities as a Self Regulatory Service. The standards for amateur transmitter harmonic and spurious levels are intended to protect Services other than the Amateur Service from interference caused by amateur transmitters, a fact that I am sure you already know. There is talk about reducing these levels. IMHO the problem of clicks, splatter ad nauseum must be solved somehow by us amateurs without having further regulations imposed. For example here in Europe deliberate jamming is a serious problem, but attempts have been and are being made by amateurs to find the culprits. 73, Geoff GM4ESD juergen piezo plebia...@yahoo.com wrote on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 8:35 PM: Hi Matt Most of us are black box operators. We need regulations for the amateur service that specifies how our transmitters must perform, just like every other HF spectrum user. Its amazing how the amateur service holds its head up high as some sort of technical demigod society, yet we cant even clean up our own camp. Arguments that transmitter standards interferes with technical development is a nonsense argument in my view. Its time that the ARRL lobbied the FCC for standards for amateur transmitters, and these standards should include keyclicks and SSB transmitter and amplifier IMD levels. We know keyclicks are unacceptable, why would it be so hard to specify by how much keyclicks should be suppressed by and what the maximum bandwidth should be? How does setting such standards interfere with technical development? We already have standards for harmonic and spurious levels. The FCC said a long time ago that we cant interfere with televisions or other services if our transmitters are crap. They set harmonic levels for transmitters. Its now time for them to say its also unacceptable for hams to interfere with hams using crap equipment. Its a disgrace that anyone can go buy a cheap 12 volt mobile radio and then go buy a cheap RM Italy amplifier and then get on the ham bands and call CQDX. Its equally sad that such operators think that they are legally entitled to do so without worrying about the consequences to others. Its selfish and not in the ham spirit. How is it fair that this kind of brain dead operation is classed as technical experimenting when it causes so much interference to others? Why the law stinks, is that if I decided to tune up on this individual for 1 hour I would be breaking the law because I am causing deliberate interference. Yet if I use a class C CB amplifier with a substandard transmitter it would be okay to cause interference all day and I am legal. We need to wake up to ourselves and our regulations. John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: killing RX key clicks
My take is that in the extreme cw is an AM signal modulated by a pure square wave and as such prduces infinite odd order harmonics which will appear as sidebands/clicks. Filtering reduces the extent of the sidebands and smooths the square wave shape particularly rise and fall times but you will still have sidebands equivalent to 7th or 9th harmonics..? This would represent the ideal and you would have to be very close to the signal to hear the sideband energy - a bit of work on the calculator will tell you where the 7th or 9th harmonics would appear for a string of dits depending on the keying speed etc. But I'm convinced that most bad clicks are actually a result of spurious switching spikes at the 'corners', often at the trailing edge and can produce sideband energy *way* out from the fundamental. This is nothing to do with the inherent physics of the cw signal and as such is curable. 73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: It's basic physics, Jim. A keyed signal is amplitude modulated and an amplitude modulated signal produces sidebands. .. On CW those sidebands sound like clicks. Ron AC7AC -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-killing-RX-key-clicks-tp4093607p4098722.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 construction tools:RF Pwr meter 1 mW to 5W, Sig Gen 50uV on 20m or 40m
Richard Hill-5 wrote: What cheap/accurate tools are available for K3 construction? I'm aware of the Elecraft XG2 which I think can be used as a signal generator. NorCal QRP has a NorCal S9 signal generator, but their kits are not currently available. I'm struggling to find a 1 mW to 5W capable RF power meter. I have a DL-1, but think it is not useful at 1 mW. Getting ready to build my K3/10. Why do you need to measure 1mW? I don't recall measuring anything at that level when I assembled my K3. I think perhaps it is suggested to check the transverter output if you install the KVX3. But I never bothered when I installed the KXV3 later on, due to oversight. As long as the output is sufficient to drive the transverter, you can just adjust the drive until you get the correct amount of power out. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-construction-tools-RF-Pwr-meter-1-mW-to-5W-Sig-Gen-50uV-on-20m-or-40m-tp4096257p4099186.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request
N1MM Logger and DX Lab Suite both give you the option. On N1MM Logger, open the Configuration panel, choose the Other tab and check the Use Reverse CW box in the lower right-hand corner. -- 73 -- Brian -- K1LI On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Ralph Parker ve...@dccnet.com wrote: I've tried really hard to adjust to CW on LSB, but it just doesn't work for me. To make matters worse, much software (eg. N1MM) insists on re-setting the CW mode to 'normal' (after I've set it to 'REV') at the most inopportune moments. I plead for a CONFIG option to set CW 'normal' to USB. I'd even pay money for this! VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: killing RX key clicks
Are you sure about 2.5 ms? Yes. As far as I remember I measured my K3 to about 5 ms and Elecraft also stated 5 ms. This was over a year ago... Measure it again. The rise time changed roughly around the F/W 3.00 revision. I went back to a 2.xx version and it measured ~ 6 msec. Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request
I am with you on this. Too many years tuning the band in one direction to change now. Randy, K5ZD -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ralph Parker Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:43 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request I've tried really hard to adjust to CW on LSB, but it just doesn't work for me. To make matters worse, much software (eg. N1MM) insists on re-setting the CW mode to 'normal' (after I've set it to 'REV') at the most inopportune moments. I plead for a CONFIG option to set CW 'normal' to USB. I'd even pay money for this! VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest
John wrote: Most of us are black box operators. We need regulations for the amateur service that specifies how our transmitters must perform, just like every other HF spectrum user... - That may be true for some, perhaps even most, but a great many of us are Hams because we can build and tinker with equipment on the air, including our own designs. It's not just a matter of technical advancement. It's also a matter of having fun learning by doing building and using sometimes far from the state-of-the-art equipment. It's that freedom from regulation equipment and procedure that has set Ham radio apart from other services. I'd hate to see that change in spite of the occasional clueless operator. Learning to communicate in spite of some abysmal signals also makes us better operators -- another key justification for having our Amateur frequencies even for black box operators. Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: killing RX key clicks
Paul Christensen wrote: Are you sure about 2.5 ms? Yes. As far as I remember I measured my K3 to about 5 ms and Elecraft also stated 5 ms. This was over a year ago... Measure it again. The rise time changed roughly around the F/W 3.00 revision. I went back to a 2.xx version and it measured ~ 6 msec. Paul, W9AC Ok Elecraft changed it, something I missed. It was prior to 3.00 I measured. / SM2EKM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: killing RX key clicks
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:40:20 +0100, Jan Erik Holm wrote: Ok Elecraft changed it, something I missed. One of the (many) benefits of Elecraft's use of DSP is the ability to shape keying in the more sophisticated ways that W4TV has described. This allows clicks to be minimized without excessively softening the CW. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest
You tell them, Ron. --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest To: 'juergen piezo' plebia...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 8:38 AM John wrote: Most of us are black box operators. We need regulations for the amateur service that specifies how our transmitters must perform, just like every other HF spectrum user... - That may be true for some, perhaps even most, but a great many of us are Hams because we can build and tinker with equipment on the air, including our own designs. It's not just a matter of technical advancement. It's also a matter of having fun learning by doing building and using sometimes far from the state-of-the-art equipment. It's that freedom from regulation equipment and procedure that has set Ham radio apart from other services. I'd hate to see that change in spite of the occasional clueless operator. Learning to communicate in spite of some abysmal signals also makes us better operators -- another key justification for having our Amateur frequencies even for black box operators. Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M operation
G'day, 6M configuration: 5el Yagi at 50 feet, approx 150 feet of Ecoflex 10 coax 1.5-2dB loss. K3 with PR6. Antenna pointing north over the harbour and open country, no S-meter reading but upon removal the antenna RX noise fell by 8-9dB as displayed by the K3 dBV. (PRE and PR6 on, 400Hz bandwidth). It is not always so quiet. Monitoring beacon LU5EGY in Buenos Aires, approx 1900km distant. In order of improving copy: PrePR6 Copy N N Nil Y N ESP Copied call with difficulty N Y ESP+ Copied call easily Y Y Easy copy I tried the effect of NR with a setting of F1-2 and it was very interesting. If the signal is very week then enabling NR extinguished the CWT marker and nothing was heard. Only when the CWT marker remained did NR have any noticeable effect on the signal. In the above cascade of tests enabling NR resulted in a significant improvement in ease of copy (quiet background) when both PRE and PR6 were on. Further it was interesting to note that for me 400Hz BW was not the best copy. Reducing BW to 50-150Hz (500Hz roofing) or increasing to 600-700Hz (2k7 roofing) was certainly much easier to listen to. With the wider BW the residual noise was certainly less harsh/granular, more smooth/rounded sounding. Sidetone frequency 600Hz. Tuesday evening I had a QSL with a station in BA who was running 1W to a simple wire antenna and was S9. I reduced output to 1W and was also copied OK. I hope this is of some use. Regards, Mike VP8NO - Original Message - From: Mike n...@nf4l.com To: rfenab...@gmail.com Cc: Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M operation I've got the preamp, but my antennae have been on the ground since I got the K3. Going back up this weekend, and I'd definitely like to hear what people have to say about it, so I'd appreciate the discussion being held on the reflector. 73, Mike NF4L rfenab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Well I just completed my first 6M contest this past weekend and found it quite good. There was some time ago a lot of comments on the K3's sensitivity on 6M. The result was Elecraft produced a pre-amp and not much comment has been seen since. If anyone on the list is a 6m operator with a pre-amp it would be good if they could contact me off list and let me know what they think of running with or without the pre-amp... I don't wish to clog the reflector with this topic. Regards Gary VK4WT Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Sale...Ranbow Tuner Kit
It's a cool kit, I have one in an Altoids. Fun to play with. Is a great one to learn on before tackling some more involved kits. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KEN Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:43 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Sale...Ranbow Tuner Kit Original NJQRP/AMQRP kit in original packaging. Description: Resistive-type SWR bridge displays the relative SWR by illuminating combinations of colorful LEDs. Handles up to 5W RF power and includes a tunable parallel resonant circuit (ATU) using a tapped inductor that readily tunes an end-fed half wave antenna to cover 7.0-10.16 MHz. When assembled, pc board mounts nicely in an Altoids mint tin, included in the kit! $15.00 + 3.00 shipping. Check or Money Order ok. Thanks, Ken, W2GIW __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 construction tools:RF Pwr meter 1 mW to 5W, Sig Gen 50uV on 20m or 40m
I would like an accurate meter that would be that range but not to build anything, I like operating at times in the 100 mw range and I want accuracy. Perhaps the new power meter could have a module in that range? 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:44 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 construction tools:RF Pwr meter 1 mW to 5W, Sig Gen 50uV on 20m or 40m Richard Hill-5 wrote: What cheap/accurate tools are available for K3 construction? I'm aware of the Elecraft XG2 which I think can be used as a signal generator. NorCal QRP has a NorCal S9 signal generator, but their kits are not currently available. I'm struggling to find a 1 mW to 5W capable RF power meter. I have a DL-1, but think it is not useful at 1 mW. Getting ready to build my K3/10. Why do you need to measure 1mW? I don't recall measuring anything at that level when I assembled my K3. I think perhaps it is suggested to check the transverter output if you install the KVX3. But I never bothered when I installed the KXV3 later on, due to oversight. As long as the output is sufficient to drive the transverter, you can just adjust the drive until you get the correct amount of power out. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M operation
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:58:39 -0300, Mike Harris mike.har...@cwimail.fk wrote: G'day, 6M configuration: 5el Yagi at 50 feet, approx 150 feet of Ecoflex 10 coax 1.5-2dB loss. K3 with PR6. 5 ele M2 Yagi at 50 ft, 70 ft of LMR600 coax 0.38 db loss. K3 with PR6. Antenna pointing north over the harbour and open country, no S-meter reading but upon removal the antenna RX noise fell by 8-9dB as displayed by the K3 dBV. (PRE and PR6 on, 400Hz bandwidth). It is not always so quiet. Monitoring beacon LU5EGY in Buenos Aires, approx 1900km distant. In order of improving copy: PrePR6 Copy N N Nil Y N ESP Copied call with difficulty N Y ESP+ Copied call easily Y Y Easy copy [snip] Mike, I haven't done the extensive testing you did, but your findings parallel my experiences with the PR6. I wish my 2m and 70cm preamp's were as good as the PR6. 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806 with SUB RX, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1, 2 W2's and other small kits 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest [ END of Thread]
List posting level limit has now been reached for this thread on key clicks, regulation etc. ;-) this thread is ENDED for now in the interest of lowering the ambient list noise level and improving overall propagation.. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft Moderator Wes Stewart wrote: You tell them, Ron. --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest To: 'juergen piezo' plebia...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 8:38 AM John wrote: Most of us are black box operators. We need regulations for the amateur service that specifies how our transmitters must perform, just like every other HF spectrum user... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 other CQWW contest issues
It came as a surprise when a 40m pile up in the recent contest resulted in distorted audio on my K3, this only occurred when I was in the thick of it, multiple S9+ signals in the passband, with a 250 Hz filter and DSP bandwidth around 100 Hz. This happened on 3 or 4 occasions, no NR, no NB. A query to Wayne and Lyle resulted in a reminder to use SOFT AGC which isn't the default setting. It wasn't a big issue and another K3 owner noted the same with his K3, so perhaps the default needs changing to SOFT? Not only is the K3 quite good with regard to key clicks, the synthesizer noise level is much less than most of the competition, look at the ARRL reviews for the Spectral display of the K3/100 transmitter during keying sideband testing or the equivalent for the other transceivers. When you are 2 miles from a non K3 using running 1.5 KW on 80m CW, the resultant bandwidth of that transmitter can reach +/- 50 KHz, if it was 10 or more dB lower life would be much more pleasant. Many stations here in the UK, and perhaps elsewhere, ignore the power limits (400 Watts in the case of the UK)... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K-3 Dual Passband filter width
What is the filter width using Dual Passband? I think I heard somewhere that it is 200hz and preset. The wider filter can be adjusted, according to the manual. When selecting this option, which roofing filter is utilized? Art KZ5D __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 other CQWW contest issues - SOFT AGC
While looking up more information on this issue in the latest online version of the K3 User Manual (version D5 dated 20 Sep 2009) I read something that puzzled me a bit: on page 54 the description of CONFIG:AGC HOLD reads SLOW AGC hold time. Specifies the number of *seconds* that the SLOW AGC level is held after the signal drops. This can be used to reduce IMD caused by traditional AGC. Having some background in pro audio I guessed that the word seconds must be in error. Sure enough older versions of the User Manual mention *milliseconds* which sounds more logical to me. Something to put in the errata sheet? 73 Glenn ON4WIX / OR4W - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 other CQWW contest issues It came as a surprise when a 40m pile up in the recent contest resulted in distorted audio on my K3, this only occurred when I was in the thick of it, multiple S9+ signals in the passband, with a 250 Hz filter and DSP bandwidth around 100 Hz. This happened on 3 or 4 occasions, no NR, no NB. A query to Wayne and Lyle resulted in a reminder to use SOFT AGC which isn't the default setting. It wasn't a big issue and another K3 owner noted the same with his K3, so perhaps the default needs changing to SOFT? Not only is the K3 quite good with regard to key clicks, the synthesizer noise level is much less than most of the competition, look at the ARRL reviews for the Spectral display of the K3/100 transmitter during keying sideband testing or the equivalent for the other transceivers. When you are 2 miles from a non K3 using running 1.5 KW on 80m CW, the resultant bandwidth of that transmitter can reach +/- 50 KHz, if it was 10 or more dB lower life would be much more pleasant. Many stations here in the UK, and perhaps elsewhere, ignore the power limits (400 Watts in the case of the UK)... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Dual Passband filter width
What is the filter width using Dual Passband? The narrow filter is 150Hz. When selecting this option, which roofing filter is utilized? The one corresponding to the adjustable width. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 other CQWW contest issues - SOFT AGC
ON4WIX wrote: While looking up more information on this issue in the latest online version of the K3 User Manual (version D5 dated 20 Sep 2009) I read something that puzzled me a bit: on page 54 the description of CONFIG:AGC HOLD reads SLOW AGC hold time. Specifies the number of *seconds* that the SLOW AGC level is held after the signal drops. This can be used to reduce IMD caused by traditional AGC. The K3 display shows seconds, such as 0.30. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 other CQWW contest issues - SOFT AGC
Hi Lyle, you're absolutely right. Sorry, my mistake. Comment withdrawn. 73 Glenn ON4WIX / OR4W - Original Message - From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com To: ON4WIX on4...@skynet.be Cc: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; k3supp...@elecraft.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 other CQWW contest issues - SOFT AGC ON4WIX wrote: While looking up more information on this issue in the latest online version of the K3 User Manual (version D5 dated 20 Sep 2009) I read something that puzzled me a bit: on page 54 the description of CONFIG:AGC HOLD reads SLOW AGC hold time. Specifies the number of *seconds* that the SLOW AGC level is held after the signal drops. This can be used to reduce IMD caused by traditional AGC. The K3 display shows seconds, such as 0.30. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 construction tools:RF Pwr meter 1 mW to 5W, Sig Gen 50uV on 20m or 40m
Our W2 Wattmeter can display down to 100 mW on its LED display on its 2W scale, and down to 20 mW when power is read via the W2s serial port. (200w coupler) http://www.elecraft.com/W2/W2.htm 73, Eric WA6HHQ Bill K9YEQ wrote: I would like an accurate meter that would be that range but not to build anything, I like operating at times in the 100 mw range and I want accuracy. Perhaps the new power meter could have a module in that range? 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 static electricity
Problem fixedEncoder shaft was not grounded. I removed VFO A knob, nuts and washer. All metal was totally painted black. I scraped off some paint, replaced washer and nuts and no more static zaps. Thanks! Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com To: a...@cablespeed.com; KM5Q k...@mac.com; 'e...@mailman.qth.net; swa...@mailman.qth.net; -...@mailman.qth.net; wa6...@mailman.qth.net; Elecraft' e...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 static electricity I'll get the ohmmeter after it tomorrow and find out if the vfo shaft is actually grounded. Serial #410 but the FP is almost new. I didn't have this problem last winter so the new FP must need some attention. 73 Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Greg - AB7R a...@cablespeed.com To: KM5Q k...@mac.com; 'e...@mailman.qth.net; swa...@mailman.qth.net; -...@mailman.qth.net; wa6...@mailman.qth.net; Elecraft' e...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 static electricity I email'd him when he first posted to check for good bare metal contact with the inside tooth washer on the encoder shaft behind the FP. Never heard back. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Dec 1 15:00 , Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft sent: I've asked our support guys to contact him. This usually only is a problem on very earlyK3s where the inside area of the front panel sheet metal was not masked off when powder coated. That resulted in leaving the VFO encoder shaft un-grounded. Its possible one of the newer FP sheet metal pieces slipped through our QC inspection with this. 73, Eric KM5Q wrote: Hold on a moment Steve. Before you buy a humidifier, let me suggest that something appears to be ungrounded internally as you suggest. My shack is in an unhumidified work space in New Mexico. I can generate a good bit of static if I wear a fleece sweater and slide just so on my office chair. I've zapped against my K3 many times (it's grounded of course) and it's never once caused a reaction. You might want to ask the factory. I think you have a problem. Windy KM5Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.88/2538 - Release Date: 12/01/09 02:59:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release Date: 12/01/09 14:32:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Retaining NR settings
Now that the K3 firmware is mature and the DSP noise reduction feature works extremely well, isn’t it time for the firmware to retain NR after power cycling? I’m not asking for memory of per band/mode NR settings (although that would be wonderful!), but NR users should not have to turn this feature on every time they power up the rig. I know this was on the list in the past, but it seems like time to move it to the top. Thanks. Steve N9SZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 in the CQWW contest
ARRL160 is the true test of just how close folks can get in the US contests ;o) Sounds like you had similar experiences, I had been running about an hour when an EU slide within 300 Hz of me and tried to start something, I slide down caught the multiplier, slide back up and kept running... well until 3V3S started CQ right on top of me (less than 100Hz), maybe they were running a K3 too, slide up and worked them, but decided the fight wouldn't work out in my favor so went SP, picked up 8 new multipliers inside of 20 minutes. Losing a run freq isn't always bad ;o) I did run tighter than normal, 400Hz and lower. 20 was packed to around 14.145 Sunday morning, so very narrow was worth it. 73, Julius n2wn Guy, K2AV wrote: Are you recommending in a CW contest that one not engage in running if one cannot find a space with an open kHz above and an open kHz below? :) Common contest practice in recent decades is 500 kHz between signals regardless of folks without filters. And that seems to be squeezing down to 400 and narrower, which some folks derisively have called the K3 effect. Last weekend I spent nearly 3 hours 350 Hz below HG1-, who had bad clicks, and managed it with the K3's extraordinary DSP NB. He parked up 350 after I had been running on the frequency for nearly an hour. I didn't move and made many Q's on the frequency with him up there. I'm sure he thought I would go away, and I probably didn't bother him at all because my K3's transmitted signal is devoid of key clicks. For casual operation I agree with you, but in the contests, it's just p**ing in the wind. 73, Guy. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: Even with a lesser receiver, I allow plenty of frequency spacing between myself and another station on CW, recognizing that the other station may not have superb selectivity. Around the CW QRP frequencies, I often allow a full kHz and several hundred Hz on other frequencies. When getting ready to transmit on new frequency I always open up the selectivity before sending QRL? so I can hear if anyone nearby responds who I would never hear with less selectivity. Besides, as others observed, other stations are often not quite on frequency and the CQing station using narrow selectivity may just keep heating the aether while others are trying to respond just outside of his bandpass. Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-in-the-CQWW-contest-tp4088913p4101674.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 in the CQWW contest
Hi Bjorn, The only band I had my preamp on was 15, and only for select stations. On 160 and 80, I generally run with the attenuator selected and RF around the 11 o'clock position (what will we do when there are no longer clocks with hands?) I think when I hear about noise issues with the K3, the rig most often noted was the FT1K. I suspect folks are used to different AF/RF settings. I thought the Yaesu rig was noisier than my K2 the one time I used it. Too, thought I could pick signals much quicker with the K2. I've not used a Yaesu since then, so can't compare. The 1K has been a contesting standard for a lot of years. It will take a bit of adjustment moving to another radio. Same as from a K2 to K3 IMHO... I have to say I didn't feel CW stress after CQWW, but suspect I will after this weekend on 160. I don't tend to use NR all that often either... 73, Julius n2wn Bjorn wrote: On 1 dec 2009, at 00.14, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Operators were mixed when it came to receiving a single signal on a quiet band - those who preferred other radios felt the K3 was too noisy. The K3 can feel a little over charged with full RF Gain and preamp inline... like driving a race car in rush hour traffic. As an experiment I used NR throughout the CQ WW CW contest and it worked great, especially when bands where a little quiet it made static and hiss a little less fatiguing. Anyone else tried this? 73 de Björn, SM0MDG SE0X __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-in-the-CQWW-contest-tp4088913p4101817.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 6M operation
I will add my voice to the unanimous use a preamp crowd. I also run the PR6 on 6M, and agree it's an excellent preamp. It also integrates seamlessly with the K3, which isn't the case with a third party preamp. More often than not I also run the internal preamp as well. The internal preamp by itself typically isn't sufficient to make weaker signals copyable. When the e-skip signals are pounding in at 20 or more over 9, then I will back off the preamps as they're not needed and the extra gain overwhelms the front end. 73, Lou, W0FK rfenabled wrote: Hi, Well I just completed my first 6M contest this past weekend and found it quite good. There was some time ago a lot of comments on the K3's sensitivity on 6M. The result was Elecraft produced a pre-amp and not much comment has been seen since. If anyone on the list is a 6m operator with a pre-amp it would be good if they could contact me off list and let me know what they think of running with or without the pre-amp... I don't wish to clog the reflector with this topic. Regards Gary VK4WT Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - St. Louis, MO K3 #2513 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-6M-operation-tp4095258p4101884.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 in the CQWW contest
While I agree with much of your argument, there could be a price to pay in the form of Equipment Type Approval.if further regulations were imposed on the Amateur Service. Without doubt Type Approval would increase the selling price of the black boxes, and put an end to the use of homebrewed equipment. *** Aren't there already standards in effect? At least for commercially marketed radios? As matters stand, the Amateur Service is viewed by most Authorities as a Self Regulatory Service. The standards for amateur transmitter harmonic and spurious levels are intended to protect Services other than the Amateur Service from interference caused by amateur transmitters, a fact that I am sure you already know. There is talk about reducing these levels. IMHO the problem of clicks, splatter ad nauseum must be solved somehow by us amateurs without having further regulations imposed. For example here in Europe deliberate jamming is a serious problem, but attempts have been and are being made by amateurs to find the culprits. *** Indeed Geoff, the big problem is not due to a lack of regulations, it's due to a number of folks who are very deliberate in their actions. Particularly when it comes to DXing and Contesting. Enforcement is a problem. Many have been getting away with it for years, and why not, there is little in the way of getting caught or getting punished. In the RadioSport world, it appears more and more contest sponsors are taking harder looks at various violations and beginning to take what some may consider draconian action. The sad part is that a very very very very small group has taken advantage of the goodwill and trust of the entire community. CQ WW DX has taken a pretty large first step with the potential of on-site inspectors. Sadly, there is much on the secondary market and new technologies that do keep some of these folks one step ahead some of the time... Honor and goodwill are commonplace. Sadly, so are rotten apples... 73, Julius - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-in-the-CQWW-contest-tp4088913p4101921.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 static electricity
Steve, I own K3/100 serial number 409 and I note yours is number 410. I have never had a static electricity problem with my encoder knob or any part of the rig. Mine sits on a wooden desk which is sitting on wall to wall carpeting and the rig is grounded via the house wiring Your 2nd. front panel must be the culprit. 73, Bob VE3XM. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K144XV now shipping
Bruce Beford-2 wrote: David, G4DMP wrote: According to the Shipping Status I see that the K144XV started shipping last Saturday (11/21 US). Would someone please point me to the on-line Manual? That shipping status update on the Web page you refer to was as of October 27th. It assumed that the LO crystals would be received on 11/17, and that integration into prebuit boards would go smoothly. AND that they would start shipping on Saturday. Five days ago, someone asked for a copy of the manual, and Eric stated that it was not ready for posting yet. I suggest patience. I ordered mine the day the web orders were activated. I am sure I'll hear when it's ready. I am also sure I will have instructions to use once the unit arrives. 73, Bruce N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K144XV-now-shipping-tp4049514p4102448.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest [ END of Thread]
One more time.. List posting level limit has now been reached for this thread on key clicks, regulation etc. ;-) this thread is ENDED for now in the interest of lowering the ambient list noise level and improving overall propagation.. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft Moderator __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K144XV now shipping
Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: I also ordered minutes after the web orders were activated. It is about time we can have access to the users guide and installation manual for the unit. If these documents are not ready for release I doubt that the product is not beeing industrialized with other problems than component shortage. Jan SM6TUW Bruce Beford-2 wrote: David, G4DMP wrote: According to the Shipping Status I see that the K144XV started shipping last Saturday (11/21 US). Would someone please point me to the on-line Manual? That shipping status update on the Web page you refer to was as of October 27th. It assumed that the LO crystals would be received on 11/17, and that integration into prebuit boards would go smoothly. AND that they would start shipping on Saturday. Five days ago, someone asked for a copy of the manual, and Eric stated that it was not ready for posting yet. I suggest patience. I ordered mine the day the web orders were activated. I am sure I'll hear when it's ready. I am also sure I will have instructions to use once the unit arrives. 73, Bruce N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K144XV-now-shipping-tp4049514p4102554.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K144XV now shipping
A request to everyone - not associated with the subject - I could not make out who was saying what in this post below, nor could I find the new content readily. PLEASE - Use Top Posting - that way your response is at the top where everyone can take notice. IMHO, in-line comments should be reserved for special occasions where nothing else makes sense. I scrolled down through this post quickly and saw the blue vertical lines on all the text lines, so I would have to read the entire content over carefully to see what had been added. If you do not like top posting, then please edit the previous post to only a few relevant lines and add your thought/comments/etc. With the volume of traffic on this reflector, one should be able to find your comments quickly and decide whether to post a response or just let it pass. I know top posting is not correct 'netiquette' in some circles, but this is the Elecraft reflector, and Eric has approved both top posting and bottom posting, although I wish he would encourage top posting more - it helps a lot when I am scanning the latest postings. 73, Don W3FPR Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: Bruce Beford-2 wrote: David, G4DMP wrote: According to the Shipping Status I see that the K144XV started shipping last Saturday (11/21 US). Would someone please point me to the on-line Manual? That shipping status update on the Web page you refer to was as of October 27th. It assumed that the LO crystals would be received on 11/17, and that integration into prebuit boards would go smoothly. AND that they would start shipping on Saturday. Five days ago, someone asked for a copy of the manual, and Eric stated that it was not ready for posting yet. I suggest patience. I ordered mine the day the web orders were activated. I am sure I'll hear when it's ready. I am also sure I will have instructions to use once the unit arrives. 73, Bruce N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.90/2540 - Release Date: 12/02/09 02:33:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 specs?
Hello group, I may have missed this but were any preliminary specifications published on the P3? Such as maximum bandwidth and dynamic range. What is the exact injection point in K3's frontend? Great to see btw that power consumption is so low! Looking forward to its release! 73' Paul PD0PSB -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/P3-specs-tp4102606p4102606.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] FW: K3 static electricity
_ From: abell [mailto:abellve...@bell.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:05 PM To: N4LQ mailto:n...@carolina.rr.com @carolina.rr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: K3 static electricity Steve, I own K3/100 serial number 409 and I note yours is number 410. I have never had a static electricity problem with my encoder knob or any part of the rig. Mine sits on a wooden desk which is sitting on wall to wall carpeting and the rig is grounded via the house wiring Your 2nd. front panel must be the culprit. 73, Bob VE3XM. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 construction tools:RF Pwr meter 1 mW to 5W, Sig Gen 50uV on 20m or 40m
Thanks, Eric, I knew that but I would like to not use the serial port. Has the shipment status on the W2 changed to current? I am about to order one and have called a couple of times to find out. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:39 PM To: Bill K9YEQ Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 construction tools:RF Pwr meter 1 mW to 5W, Sig Gen 50uV on 20m or 40m Our W2 Wattmeter can display down to 100 mW on its LED display on its 2W scale, and down to 20 mW when power is read via the W2s serial port. (200w coupler) http://www.elecraft.com/W2/W2.htm 73, Eric WA6HHQ Bill K9YEQ wrote: I would like an accurate meter that would be that range but not to build anything, I like operating at times in the 100 mw range and I want accuracy. Perhaps the new power meter could have a module in that range? 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design
I totally agree. When you have an issue or problem, no one, NO other company comes close to Elecraft. Wayne, Eric and Co are fabulous. I hope to meet them someday. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Miguel Mayorga Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K144XV now shipping
Jan, The manual is being completed as we speak. It will certainly be made available as soon as possible. We had a number of supply-chain delays on this product, as well as a second prototyping phase. But things are now flowing smoothly, and I expect to see production units soon. I'm on the hook for some final firmware on the K3 side, putting me in the critical path, as usual. All I can say (other than to apologize for the delays) is that this unit rocks, and it will be worth the wait :) 73, Wayne N6KR Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: I also ordered minutes after the web orders were activated. It is about time we can have access to the users guide and installation manual for the unit. If these documents are not ready for release I doubt that the product is not beeing industrialized with other problems than component shortage. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K144XV now shipping
How about a little patience. What difference does it make? The installation manual won't help much until we have it in our hot little hands anyway, and you can't use it 'till you have it. The internet has turned us all into a bunch of impatient mean-spirited people who love to complain and hypothesize conspiracy -- me included :-) The website shows the estimated ship date as 12/9. Sounds like it will arrive about the time that Santa does ... Grant/NQ5T On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: I also ordered minutes after the web orders were activated. It is about time we can have access to the users guide and installation manual for the unit. If these documents are not ready for release I doubt that the product is not beeing industrialized with other problems than component shortage. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K144XV now shipping
Among other items, the manual requires pictures for installation of the K144XV components in the K3. Its not just an operating manual. We go through a step by step installation process as we document the K11XV, and that requires all of the parts to be here before the manual is completed. Rather than use an early prototype, we want our manual pictures to match the production version. We've been shipping the needed items over to Ron as fast as possible as they have arrived here. Manual release is also dependent on what other projects the manual writer is working on. Its getting close and we'll post the manual as fast as we can. 73, Eric Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: Jan Holmer SM6TUW wrote: I also ordered minutes after the web orders were activated. It is about time we can have access to the users guide and installation manual for the unit. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K144XV now shipping
Top posting is the official standard for this list, and its especially important for those of us who also read our email on PDA phones. (I'm using the new Motorola Droid..) Reading the response first, at the top, is a hige time saver. 73, Eric WA6HHQ elecraft List Moderator Don Wilhelm wrote: A request to everyone - not associated with the subject - I could not make out who was saying what in this post below, nor could I find the new content readily. PLEASE - Use Top Posting - that way your response is at the top where everyone can take notice. IMHO, in-line comments should be reserved for special occasions where nothing else makes sense. .html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 construction tools:RF Pwr meter 1 mW to 5W, Sig Gen 50uV on 20m or 40m
W2 shipping is going current as of this week. I think we have 1-2 days more to catch up with the backlog. 73, Eric Bill K9YEQ wrote: Thanks, Eric, I knew that but I would like to not use the serial port. Has the shipment status on the W2 changed to current? I am about to order one and have called a couple of times to find out. 73, Bill K9YEQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Top Posting is the official standard for the Elecraft list
[re-post with more accurate subject line] Top posting is the official standard for this list, and its especially important for those of us who also read our email on PDA phones. (I'm using the new Motorola Droid..) Reading the response first, at the top, is a huge time saver, especially when you have to read hundreds of emails daily as we do here. 73, Eric WA6HHQ elecraft List Moderator __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Vol 68, Issue 3
Commercial amateur equipment does need to be certified. In the UK the certification is to Interface Requirement 2028 and the EMC directives etc apply with rigs CE marked to show compliance. The Foundation licence permits commercially available kits to be used on-air that will be IR2028 compliant if built to the supplied spec. Your 'black boxes' have to be type approved anyway - although the traditional test house type approval has been superseded. Self certification with a technical construction file or test house results as back up evidence is now the norm. Ragards 73 Alan --- On Wed, 2/12/09, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:20:16 - From: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy gm4...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest . While I agree with much of your argument, there could be a price to pay in the form of Equipment Type Approval.if further regulations were imposed on the Amateur Service. Without doubt Type Approval would increase the selling price of the black boxes, and put an end to the use of homebrewed equipment. As matters stand, the Amateur Service is viewed by most Authorities as a Self Regulatory Service. The standards for amateur transmitter harmonic and spurious levels are intended to protect Services other than the Amateur Service from interference caused by amateur transmitters, a fact that I am sure you already know. There is talk about reducing these levels. .. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Retaining NR settings
In addition to power up memory, I'd really like Mode memory. I find my CW DSP settings to be considerably different than my SSB DSP setting (and a real PITA to change them). - 73, John Steven.Zabarnick wrote: Now that the K3 firmware is mature and the DSP noise reduction feature works extremely well, isn’t it time for the firmware to retain NR after power cycling? I’m not asking for memory of per band/mode NR settings (although that would be wonderful!), but NR users should not have to turn this feature on every time they power up the rig. I know this was on the list in the past, but it seems like time to move it to the top. Thanks. Steve N9SZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Retaining-NR-settings-tp4101660p4103042.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: killing RX key clicks
Paul Christensen wrote: The 'RC rise/decay' wave shape that was in the handbooks for many years is actually a *bad* shape because it has a very sharp corner on key-up. Ian, *bad* may be a bit too harsh. The League's optimized envelope was described during a time when only simple R/C values were used to develop a keyed envelope. I'm not sure how one would have produced an economical Blackman-Harris or raised cosine function until say...the early to mid '90s. How would you have done it? Probably the only solution at the time was to set leading and trailing edges produced by the R/C network so soft that they're painful to copy. My criticism was that because R/C shaping was judged to be the only available technology, it was wrongly promoted as being the optimum that designers should aim for. Given better information, I believe designers could have produced analog circuits to approximate the true optimum shape... but that didn't happen. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Home and hopefully OK now
Just got home from the hospital where I had a heart pacemaker implanted. Had been feeling weak and had a very slow heartbeat for a bit over a week when I finally decided that discretion being the better part of valor, I'd get myself into the Emergency Room last Friday night. Less than 10 minutes after I arrived there, I found myself admitted to the Cardiac Care Unit where they kept me under observation for a couple days, finally deciding a permanent pacemaker was needed. After all the tests they did, they determined much to my pleasant surprise that I had NOT had a heart attack and there was no evidence of ever having had one. The cardiologist said they were going to do the operation on Monday at 8:00 a.m. but he was able to get an operating suite earlier and they did the implant at 6:33 that morning. Judy had been told they were going at 8 and they forgot to notify her about the earlier time, so I was already back in the room by the time she got there. Let me tell you that was the best medical fix I've ever been through. Heart is back on track with a nice steady 80 bpm beat now, blood pressure is back to normal and I can walk more than 100 feet without becoming exhausted. Real wake-up call, let me tell you. My cardiologist is an Indian gentleman by the name of Ravi Bajaj and according to all the doctors and nurses I know in Wichita, he's the best of the best around here. He even speaks better English than I do. I'm home, feeling really well, but I'm grounded for at least a week. Can't drive until my initial follow-up with Bajaj next Thursday. This hospital has gone through some very nice changes since the terrible care Judy had back in January. Almost lost her to some serious indifference and incompetence. The level of care I received was absolutely outstanding. Had a number of different nurses and they were all very competent and pleasant to have around. Got chewed out royally by the Charge Nurse in the CCU the night I was admitted when I told them I drove myself to the ER. Hey, I had no idea I was that close to losing it and even with the slow heartbeat I was awake, had good motor skills and my reaction time (they tested it) was as good as it had ever been. Nurse kept yelling at me -- NEXT TIME 911, NEXT TIME 911! -- Gonna take me a few years to live that one down - LOL. Anyway, for those who knew I was in the hospital and why, I'm home now and doing a heck of a lot better. For those who didn't know, I apologize for not letting you know but there simply wasn't time to get emails out and even less time for phone calls. Thanks all, Jim Sheldon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] For Sale
It's time to upgrade the 'ol K2 to a K2/100! With that in mind...the following items are for sale: 1. Elecraft XV50 6m transverter - less than 1 yr old. $350.00 2. Elecraft K60XV 60m + transverter interface board. $50.00 3. Elecraft KIO2 Serial interface board. $50.00 4. Elecraft T1-FT817C 18 shielded cable for auto band switching, FT-817 to Elecraft T1 autotuner. $40.00 5. Heil Proset with HC4 element. Comes with adapter for Yaesu transceivers with RJ type mic connector. (I have replaced the original 1/4 headphone plug with a 1/8 plug) $100.00 Prices are in U.S. dollars. I can be flexible, please enquire. I will ship anywhere in Canada or continental U.S. at my expense. Please contact me off-list. Thank you 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Quick Manual in Chinese
Hello Eric and the Group, Throughout the years, I have tried to promote both K2 and K3 to hams in Hong Kong and Mainland China (come on, I am NOT paid to do so). I have recently sent my K3 to Shanghai, China to one of the radio clubs. I immediately got into hot water. As all you are awared, our K3 is quite a complicated radio and needs a learning curve. Thorough reading and understanding of the 80 pages operational manual is nearly a must so as to fully appreciate the various fantastic functions of K3. Although there are some well educated Chinese ham with English up to native speaker standard, major portion of the ham population in China has limited ability in understanding English. Reading the K3's operation manual could be beyond their ability. Upon arrival of my K3 in Shanghai, I have been receiving daily emails from the radio club members asking all sorts of questions about how to use K3. I have no complaint in answering all these daily emails though I am not a member of the Elecraft team. However, I wonder whether there will be at least some sort of quick manual or brief manual in Chinese so that I can pass to the interested parties in China. While ham population is declining in most part of the world, the number of ham in China is growing rapidly. Any advice or assistance from the group and Elecraft will be appreciated. 73 Johnny Siu VR2XMC Yahoo!香港提供網上安全攻略，教你如何防範黑客! 請前往 http://hk.promo.yahoo.com/security/ 了解更多! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Apologies to the list over the home again email
Apologies to the list - I forgot I had changed e-mail programs and that the lists were all in the main address book so when I did a blanket send to what I thought was a select few, I got everybody! Anyway, many thanks for all the well wishes. BTW, in the instructions for the pacemaker it definitely states that ham radio equipment will NOT interfere with it's operation. I do, however have to stay away from arc welders and power generators. That gets me off the hook for tending the field day generator - LOL. Jim Sheldon - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Quick Manual in Chinese
Johnny, Thanks for your efforts to bring the K3 to the attention of the Chinese-speaking world. The more DX the better (hi). I wonder if Bernie of Nifty! manuals fame would like to take this on? He wrote a very nice short-form operating manual for the K3, and even if he doesn't speak Chinese, he might know of a way to get it translated. We could also supply the .doc version of the manual to a willing translator/ham. But it would be a huge job. We could make it worthwhile by exchanging a K3 discount (or a smaller kit) for a manual translation. 73, Wayne N6KR On Dec 2, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: Hello Eric and the Group, Throughout the years, I have tried to promote both K2 and K3 to hams in Hong Kong and Mainland China (come on, I am NOT paid to do so). I have recently sent my K3 to Shanghai, China to one of the radio clubs. I immediately got into hot water. As all you are awared, our K3 is quite a complicated radio and needs a learning curve. Thorough reading and understanding of the 80 pages operational manual is nearly a must so as to fully appreciate the various fantastic functions of K3.. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request
I am with you on this. Too many years tuning the band in one direction to change now. Me, too. I'm getting used to the way the K3 tunes, but for ergonomic reasons it would really be nice to have a way to make both of my radios tune the same direction. Since my second radio is an old FT-1000D that doesn't have the CW Reverse functionality, I suppose it's up to the K3 to do the changing -- just because it can (or will be able to someday). 73... Randy, W8FN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Going to pull the trigger - Suggestions?
I have been on and off of this reflector several times over the past couple of years and have decided to put in an order for the K3. Other than the fact that is is a terrific radio that will indulge my love of playing with tech devices I am also very impressed with the sense of community and with the participation by the owners and designers on the reflector. Also, I paid them a visit in Aptos a year or so ago and was very impressed with the reception and by the commitment and dedication of the members of the team. On short notice they made every effort to make me feel welcome and to allow me to play with a K3 with the assistance of a tech. Tomorrow I am going to order one and decided that while I will scrimp a bit for now I want the items that will help set the K3 apart from my current transceiver. I would like to ask the group's suggestions on my order. But first, a little background to help those that want to jump in to guide me. I have been licensed since '58 but have never been a big gun. I enjoy working what DX I can and casual contesting. Not a rag chewer and in fact don't use SSB that much. My current location dictates not much more than a vertical and a 102' ladder line fed doublet at 35 feet. I enjoy digital modes and RTTY contesting. I probably wind up on CW for most of my DX chasing. I would like to trick out the K3 as much as economically feasible for my operating. Over the years I think I have wound up taking out my frustrations of not having big antennas by buying as good of a transceiver as I could mainly because I like to play with different modes and the latest technology. Here is the order I am playing with tonight in preparation for ordering it tomorrow: K3/100 Kit KAT 3 I don't use an amp and if the ATU as good as expected I will sell my LDG. Also I want the 2nd Antenna input KRX3Having the second Rcvr is one of the big differentiators from my current Xcvr. KBPF3 Hardly ever use general coverage but would like to have it on the Sub. KXV3A Would like to have the Rx Ant and I assume the IF out will be needed for the P3 - also may want to do some Xverters later KFL3A-400 x2 Suggestions? TIA, Rick K6LE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Droid
I am also looking at the Droid. I am planning on buying 4 of them for Christmas For the family. What do you think of it so far? Thanks Dan N0DT Top posting is the official standard for this list, and its especially important for those of us who also read our email on PDA phones. (I'm using the new Motorola Droid..) Reading the response first, at the top, is a hige time saver. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request
LSB on the lower bands and USB on the higher bands is an artifact of the mixing scheme, from the early days of SSB, of a 9 Mc IF mixed with a 5.0 - 5.5 Mc VFO. (Yes, it was Mc in those days, not MHz.) Add and you get 20m. Subtract and you get 80m. The subtraction results in sideband reversal and so LSB became the standard for 80m. There is really no reason now to not to just operate USB on all bands other than tradition. On CW, the standard among CW DXers has always been USB CW because it means that the higher the tone, the higher the frequency. Intuitively useful when tuning a split pile up. Just as clockwise rotation of the VFO knob means higher frequency. I operate USB on RTTY for that same reason, even though the standard is LSB. The stations I work on RTTY don't know that I'm USB. It is curious that normal CW for the K3 is LSB. I'm sure Elecraft had their reasons. My K3 is always in CW REV mode. 73! Steve WB6RSE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request
On the other hand, maybe you'd want to use someone else's K3 and they might object to having their settings changed. At one time, I was a fairly big gun contester; I'm not now but I might operate multi-op which I've done before. My old rig is a very modified FT-101E with good dynamic range as a result of mixer, blanker, and IF changes, great selectivity owing to adding the speech clipper to the IF, plus other changes and the same opposite tuning plus the orignal finals lasted34 years. For an analog rig, it still does pretty much what I want. That said, it hasn't been turned on since I got my K3. I've considered using it as a second IF for second receiver purposes and for noise clipper/blanker experiments but that priority is declining steadily. It's not worth selling and the mods would frighten almost all potential buyers. I hand made a board to follow the speech processor that Yaesu didn't include until later and it's UGLY. I can still repair it, it still works. I'm sure Yaesu wouldn't touch it; will they still repair the 1000; I've heard some discouraging things about part availability. I've offered it to a semi-interested grand-daughter but she's too busy with school, soccer, bicycle racing, drama, etc.. Let it be a beloved spare or maybe just.tune it with the other hand (saith the left hand person who was forced to be right handed in elementary school, the consequence of living in the third world). I currently have the 101 in it's usual spot on my left and the K3 in a new spot on my right. Both work; dyslexia isn't all bad. Maybe I should run coax to the 101 and use both simultaneously. If only I was schizophrenic. The question that Wayne and crew are perhaps asking is what's the priority and how much work is it. I'm happy; it's taken me to months to adjust. ;-)) Dunc, W5DC Randy Farmer wrote: I am with you on this. Too many years tuning the band in one direction to change now. Me, too. I'm getting used to the way the K3 tunes, but for ergonomic reasons it would really be nice to have a way to make both of my radios tune the same direction. Since my second radio is an old FT-1000D that doesn't have the CW Reverse functionality, I suppose it's up to the K3 to do the changing -- just because it can (or will be able to someday). 73... Randy, W8FN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Going to pull the trigger - Suggestions?
This is identical to the configuration I have. With this option set, you'll have everything you need for truly exceptional performance, especially on CW and the digital modes. You can always add more filters later on. I'd recommend you install the KBPF3 in the Main receiver rather than in the Sub -- it's far easier to make use of the many QRM-fighting features available in the Main receiver channel for general listening. 73... Randy, W8FN I have been on and off of this reflector several times over the past couple of years and have decided to put in an order for the K3. Other than the fact that is is a terrific radio that will indulge my love of playing with tech devices I am also very impressed with the sense of community and with the participation by the owners and designers on the reflector. Also, I paid them a visit in Aptos a year or so ago and was very impressed with the reception and by the commitment and dedication of the members of the team. On short notice they made every effort to make me feel welcome and to allow me to play with a K3 with the assistance of a tech. Tomorrow I am going to order one and decided that while I will scrimp a bit for now I want the items that will help set the K3 apart from my current transceiver. I would like to ask the group's suggestions on my order. But first, a little background to help those that want to jump in to guide me. I have been licensed since '58 but have never been a big gun. I enjoy working what DX I can and casual contesting. Not a rag chewer and in fact don't use SSB that much. My current location dictates not much more than a vertical and a 102' ladder line fed doublet at 35 feet. I enjoy digital modes and RTTY contesting. I probably wind up on CW for most of my DX chasing. I would like to trick out the K3 as much as economically feasible for my operating. Over the years I think I have wound up taking out my frustrations of not having big antennas by buying as good of a transceiver as I could mainly because I like to play with different modes and the latest technology. Here is the order I am playing with tonight in preparation for ordering it tomorrow: K3/100 Kit KAT 3 I don't use an amp and if the ATU as good as expected I will sell my LDG. Also I want the 2nd Antenna input KRX3Having the second Rcvr is one of the big differentiators from my current Xcvr. KBPF3 Hardly ever use general coverage but would like to have it on the Sub. KXV3A Would like to have the Rx Ant and I assume the IF out will be needed for the P3 - also may want to do some Xverters later KFL3A-400 x2 Suggestions? TIA, Rick K6LE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Going to pull the trigger - Suggestions?
Hi Rick ... You will love the K3, and I think you are right on target with your selection of the ATU, KBPF3 and KXV3A. I also enjoy some contesting and DX chasing on CW and have a no antennas restriction, so strictly low profile stealth wires. I consider the KXV3A a Must due to the RX antenna input. I use a stealth K9AY with this input which makes world of difference for ham band receiving as well as MW and shortwave. I don't yet have the KRX3 and am glad I set the priorities I did. Given the choice of one or the other, I'd much rather have the Rx antenna along with the two antenna selection with the ATU. The KBPF3 is a good bang for the minimal buck it costs and will give you general coverage and allow you to use your K3 as a calibrated tuned RF voltmeter over a wide frequency range for test purposes. I will someday get the KRX3, but you indicated that you want to keep the cost reasonable for the time being. And the KRX3 is relatively costly, especially when you consider filters for it, which you didn't mention. Adding the KRX3 with a reasonable selection of roofing filters for the sub can easily add $1K to the cost of your purchase. Instead, I'd recommend getting at least two additional roofing filters now for the main RX, given that your main interests are CW and digital. I have the 15K, 1K, 500 Hz and 200 Hz in addition to the stock 2.7 K and am quite pleased. My migration plan is to first get the P3 next year and then later on the KRX3. Given your situation, you may want to consider something similar. Have fun! 73 ... Craig AC0DS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Going to pull the trigger - Suggestions?
Rick: Looks to me like you're making good choices. If you're planning on ever using diversity, you may wish to match the 2.7 kHz 5-pole filters in main and sub, or, for a little more than the matching cost, start with 2.8 kHz 8-pole filters in main and sub. The time to decide on a 2.7 vs 2.8 kHz filter is at the time of the initial order. The stock K3 and KRX3 come with a 2.7 kHz 5-pole filter. If you want to change to 2.8 kHz filter at the time of initial order, the cost is less than doing it later. I chose the pair of 2.8 kHz filters, YMMV. The KXV3A gives you IF output for a panadapter (the P3 and others, for example, N8LP's LP-PAN and RfSpace SDR-IQ), an Rx antenna input and transverter in and out connectors. You can get that on day one, or you can upgrade it later. The next thing on list (if this were mine...) would be a 1.8 kHz filter on the main receiver. This can help when you get into that nasty SSB pileup or find there's someone right next to the guy you want to work. You don't need the same filter inventory in main and sub receivers. Some people prefer it, but it isn't a hard requirement. This is all very subjective. Ask 5 people and you'll get 8 opinions. I do strongly recommend building it from a kit unless you're really time-constrained. It's not hard to assemble, takes maybe 10 hours, and no special tools except an ESD mat from the local Radio Shack and a DVM. Investments in improving your antenna situation will pay off even more. Any chance of getting a small beam up? Maybe one of those newfangled Hex beams on a 30 or 40 foot telescoping mast? It's a great community, Rick. Sorta the way it ought to be... Welcome aboard! 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K6LE Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:29 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Going to pull the trigger - Suggestions? I have been on and off of this reflector several times over the past couple of years and have decided to put in an order for the K3. Other than the fact that is is a terrific radio that will indulge my love of playing with tech devices I am also very impressed with the sense of community and with the participation by the owners and designers on the reflector. Also, I paid them a visit in Aptos a year or so ago and was very impressed with the reception and by the commitment and dedication of the members of the team. On short notice they made every effort to make me feel welcome and to allow me to play with a K3 with the assistance of a tech. Tomorrow I am going to order one and decided that while I will scrimp a bit for now I want the items that will help set the K3 apart from my current transceiver. I would like to ask the group's suggestions on my order. But first, a little background to help those that want to jump in to guide me. I have been licensed since '58 but have never been a big gun. I enjoy working what DX I can and casual contesting. Not a rag chewer and in fact don't use SSB that much. My current location dictates not much more than a vertical and a 102' ladder line fed doublet at 35 feet. I enjoy digital modes and RTTY contesting. I probably wind up on CW for most of my DX chasing. I would like to trick out the K3 as much as economically feasible for my operating. Over the years I think I have wound up taking out my frustrations of not having big antennas by buying as good of a transceiver as I could mainly because I like to play with different modes and the latest technology. Here is the order I am playing with tonight in preparation for ordering it tomorrow: K3/100 Kit KAT 3 I don't use an amp and if the ATU as good as expected I will sell my LDG. Also I want the 2nd Antenna input KRX3Having the second Rcvr is one of the big differentiators from my current Xcvr. KBPF3 Hardly ever use general coverage but would like to have it on the Sub. KXV3A Would like to have the Rx Ant and I assume the IF out will be needed for the P3 - also may want to do some Xverters later KFL3A-400 x2 Suggestions? TIA, Rick K6LE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Regulations
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Elecraft Reflector: Please be careful what you wish for and/or petition for. How great of a service the Amateur Radio hobby would be if we all had type approved radios, requiring a yearly checkout at a licensed measurement office ($500 per radio, per band, per mode), channelized frequencies so we would all be within 50Hz of a designated center of channel, a single mode of approved operation, radios so simple no one would need to have any knowledge of how to operate the thing, etc., etc. Wow! Thats like living in an HOA dwelling! And, the greatest thing of allsince no one would need to know how to make his radio meet all spectral purity and emissions tests, WE WOULDN'T NEED ANY LICENSES! Frequencies waiting to be used by ANYONE! CB everywhere (gasp). Please! Be vewwy vewwy careful for what you wish. 73 Ted W8IXY K3 #1717 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design
I think the mayority of us Elecrafters are loyal to the company as we are loyal to our family,I don't pictureanyone here buying a FTDX-5000 when we all know that it won't be better than this K3 we own. AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Miguel Mayorga kc7...@arrl.net wrote: From: Miguel Mayorga kc7...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:59 PM The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Yaesu-copies-K3-s-design-tp4049475p4101955.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design
As an ex-Dealer for Yaesu...I won't be throwing my money at any radio designed by Yaesu with Motorola Fiscal Controls plus all but one seat on the Board...and dumped onto the market in a rush to woo our dollars off us so the Motorola controlled Board will keep them employed...(:-)) I still own an FT-60 HH...any offers? I'll just keep old #679 going! 73's Gary Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra -Original Message- From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:43:59 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design I think the mayority of us Elecrafters are loyal to the company as we are loyal to our family,I don't pictureanyone here buying a FTDX-5000 when we all know that it won't be better than this K3 we own. AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Miguel Mayorga kc7...@arrl.net wrote: From: Miguel Mayorga kc7...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:59 PM The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Yaesu-copies-K3-s-design-tp4049475p4101955.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft team
When you had the great pleasure to meet them both as I have had here in Orlando,FL at the hamfest as well as at Dayton,OH for same event,you will realize that they are not only brilliant in knoledge but also wonderful persons who only show decency,honesty and loyalty to all their customers and I am very glad to be one of the thousand Elecrafters in the world.They make a hell of a couple. AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com wrote: From: Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design To: 'Miguel Mayorga' kc7...@arrl.net, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:53 PM I totally agree. When you have an issue or problem, no one, NO other company comes close to Elecraft. Wayne, Eric and Co are fabulous. I hope to meet them someday. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Miguel Mayorga Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft team
And, when you have had an opportunity to work WITH Wayne and Eric (and the rest of the Elecraft team), I believe you will have the same impression. A very nice team to deal with. Yes, they do have their business objectives, but they are human beings too, with compassion and consideration for all - employees as well as all Elecraft builders/owners. They are listening to YOU. 73, Don W3FPR Hector Padron wrote: When you had the great pleasure to meet them both as I have had here in Orlando,FL at the hamfest as well as at Dayton,OH for same event,you will realize that they are not only brilliant in knoledge but also wonderful persons who only show decency,honesty and loyalty to all their customers and I am very glad to be one of the thousand Elecrafters in the world.They make a hell of a couple. AD4C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft team
I just completed a cw qso with another happy K3er. He recently tried to update the firmware on his FT-2000. Something went wrong and now it's dead. He had to ship it to Yazu for service. I remember holding my breath while updating the IC-7800. You get one chance to get it right OR ELSE! My point is. Elecraft did good on FW update methodology and continues to make customers happy. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft team And, when you have had an opportunity to work WITH Wayne and Eric (and the rest of the Elecraft team), I believe you will have the same impression. A very nice team to deal with. Yes, they do have their business objectives, but they are human beings too, with compassion and consideration for all - employees as well as all Elecraft builders/owners. They are listening to YOU. 73, Don W3FPR Hector Padron wrote: When you had the great pleasure to meet them both as I have had here in Orlando,FL at the hamfest as well as at Dayton,OH for same event,you will realize that they are not only brilliant in knoledge but also wonderful persons who only show decency,honesty and loyalty to all their customers and I am very glad to be one of the thousand Elecrafters in the world.They make a hell of a couple. AD4C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: 12/02/09 14:43:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 18:36 -0800, wb6r...@mac.com wrote: LSB on the lower bands and USB on the higher bands is an artifact of the mixing scheme, from the early days of SSB, of a 9 Mc IF mixed with a 5.0 - 5.5 Mc VFO. (Yes, it was Mc in those days, not MHz.) Add and you get 20m. Subtract and you get 80m. The subtraction results in sideband reversal and so LSB became the standard for 80m. There is really no reason now to not to just operate USB on all bands other than tradition. I've heard people say that many times over the years but clearly it's not true. A 9 MHz IF set up for (let's say) USB will still be USB no matter whether you add or subtract the 5-5.5 MHz VFO. What DOES result in opposite sidebands is to swap the IF and VFO frequencies, that is, using an IF in the 5 MHz range and a VFO in the 9 MHz range to get 80 and 20 meters without having to band-switch the VFO. I believe some early SSB rigs used that scheme, so that may be the origin of the current standard. Al N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Resistor Packs Question
What wattage are the resistor packs in the K2. Are they 1/8 or 1/4 watt. Thanks Mike __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] 3.63 firmware anomaly
Since upgrading to 3.63, I've noticed that the bandwidth graphic at the lower left of the dispaly doesn't indicate the bandwidth properly while stepping through the filters using XFIL. I have 4 filters installed: 2.8, 2.1, 1.0, __, .250. (The .400 is awaiting installation.) Pressing XFIL to get to the 2.8 filter gives me the correct graphic. Stepping through 2.1 and 1.0, I can hear the bandwidth changing, but the graphic doesn't change until I get to the .250 filter, where it is correct. Hmmm Using the WIDTH control doesn't change the graphic properly either, but the bandwidth itself seems to change correctly. I've been through the CONFIG menu, and the settings seem to be the same as my previous 2.73. I finally got used to the WIDTH control turning the opposite direction that the XFIL indicators move (FL1, FL2, etc.). VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW feature request
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 21:06 -0800, Alan Bloom wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 18:36 -0800, wb6r...@mac.com wrote: LSB on the lower bands and USB on the higher bands is an artifact of the mixing scheme, from the early days of SSB, of a 9 Mc IF mixed with a 5.0 - 5.5 Mc VFO. (Yes, it was Mc in those days, not MHz.) Add and you get 20m. Subtract and you get 80m. The subtraction results in sideband reversal and so LSB became the standard for 80m. There is really no reason now to not to just operate USB on all bands other than tradition. I've heard people say that many times over the years but clearly it's not true. A 9 MHz IF set up for (let's say) USB will still be USB no matter whether you add or subtract the 5-5.5 MHz VFO. I just did a little Googling on the Internet (AC6V.com and elsewhere) and discovered to my astonishment that this is an actual bona-fide controversial subject among radio amateurs. Despite the fact that a simple 2-minute back-of-the-envelope calculation is all it takes to disprove the myth. For the record: Intermediate frequency: Carrier 9.000 MHz Sideband 9.001 MHz == USB Add 5 MHz VFO: Carrier 9.000 + 5.000 = 14.000 MHz Sideband 9.001 + 5.000 = 14.001 MHz == USB Subtract 5 MHz VFO: Carrier 9.000 - 5.000 = 4.000 MHz Sideband 9.001 - 5.000 = 4.001 MHz == USB I can't believe people are actually arguing about this! Al N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Regulations [END of thread]
Let's end the thread on regulations (under this heading and the others (CQWW etc.) We're getting way OT. 73, Eric Elecraft List Manager amf...@aol.com wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Elecraft Reflector: Please be careful what you wish for and/or petition for. How great of a service the Amateur Radio hobby would be if we all had type approved radios, requiring a yearly checkout at a licensed measurement office ($500 per radio, per band, per mode), channelized frequencies so we would all be within 50Hz of a designated center of channel, a single mode of approved operation, radios so simple no one would need to have any knowledge of how to operate the thing, etc., etc. Wow! Thats like living in an HOA dwelling! And, the greatest thing of allsince no one would need to know how to make his radio meet all spectral purity and emissions tests, WE WOULDN'T NEED ANY LICENSES! Frequencies waiting to be used by ANYONE! CB everywhere (gasp). Please! Be vewwy vewwy careful for what you wish. 73 Ted W8IXY K3 #1717 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] FS: XG2 Unbuilt Kit
For reasons I no longer recall, I have a spare, unbuilt XG2. The kit is compete and unmolested. $45, mailed to your (US) door. Please reply privately and not to the whole reflector. Thanks .. Grant/NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
