Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Keyboard

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen Prior
That's good news Alan, I've been looking forward to that.  I have no room
on my desk for another monitor.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On Tuesday, 22 May 2012, Alan Bloom wrote:

 Yes, that's the plan.  Probably we'll get it working on the SVGA first
 then the P3 display later.

 Alan N1AL


 On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 20:51 -0600, Bob Cunnings wrote:
  Will the P3 get data display without the need to install the P3SVGA?
  This would be nice for those who don't need the external monitor or
  want to use a keyboard, but are happy to use paddles in PSK-D mode...
  that VFO B area is pretty cramped.
 
  Bob NW8L
 
 
  ... The P3 will also get data display,
  with or without an attached keyboard.
 
  73,
 
  Paul
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[Elecraft] Loading beta software

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gerald,

You do not point the K3 Utility to the beta site.
Point your browser at the beta site and download it.  It is typically a 
zip file.
Unzip it to a folder of your choice.
Point K3 Utility to the folder where you placed the unzipped files.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/21/2012 11:05 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote:
 OK, talked me into it also. How do you point the software to the beta
 sight?


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[Elecraft] K2 KSB2 - SSBA BAL setting doesn't seem to work

2012-05-22 Thread xraying
Hi All,

I've recently built KSB2 module (fw 1.08)  and encountered a problem with
aligment. Setting BAL option in SSBA menu doesn't seem to be doing anything
(it should feed ssb signal to receiver). My K2 is quite fresh - serial 76xx.

I've set up carrier balance using second transceiver. I've set up filter
using spectrogram and filter response seems to be very good (flat with no
holes compared to variable filter). I've made a QSO with Croatia using 1:1
then 1:4 compression (way better result) -  using max 15W. So the module
seems to be working fine.

Should I just ignore it or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Tomasz
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 KSB2 - SSBA BAL setting doesn't seem to work

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
If you were successful in obtaining a good carrier null with a second 
transceiver, then you can ignore it.

The way I adjust the SSB carrier balance is to observe the K2 RF output 
with an oscilloscope connected across a dummy load.  I do not plug in a 
microphone, but plug in paddles and close the DOT paddle since that is 
the same as PTT.
Set the oscilloscope vertical sensitivity to show the RF envelope and 
adjust for minimum deflection.
Quick and easy and will produce good results.  The second transceiver 
will also produce good results, adjust for minimum signal on the S-meter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2012 9:12 AM, xraying wrote:
 Hi All,

 I've recently built KSB2 module (fw 1.08)  and encountered a problem with
 aligment. Setting BAL option in SSBA menu doesn't seem to be doing anything
 (it should feed ssb signal to receiver). My K2 is quite fresh - serial 76xx.

 I've set up carrier balance using second transceiver. I've set up filter
 using spectrogram and filter response seems to be very good (flat with no
 holes compared to variable filter). I've made a QSO with Croatia using 1:1
 then 1:4 compression (way better result) -  using max 15W. So the module
 seems to be working fine.

 Should I just ignore it or am I doing something wrong?

 Thanks,
 Tomasz

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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?

2012-05-22 Thread Lu Romero
Some final comments while watching this thread progress:

I agree with Lyle... SDR does not mean processing by PC. 
Our K3's and KX3's are fully qualified Software Defined
Radios with processing on embedded processors.  Sort of like
what Flex is looking to build now.  It doesnt matter where
the code runs, folks, just because it doesnt run on external
Intel silicon does not mean it aint an SDR!  

The Embedded Systems approach is a safer path than trusting
your device (perhipheral?) to the vagarities of personal
computer OS and hardware progress.  At least you have SOME
control of the environment!  Professional applications have
to be more resilient to the whims of software and hardware
changes that will rear their ugly heads at the worst
possible times.  The big push for Elecraft to embrace USB
instead of serial comms comes directly to mind... RS232 is
well defined and robust.  I certainly do not want to be left
to the whims of USB driver code with my computer to radio
comms.  I get enough of this stuff at work to have to deal
with it when Im trying to relax on the radio.

$200 a year for a $8k software based product is a bit steep
for a hobby product.  Frankly, this fee is very much a
high profit margin fee.  An ex employer of mine used to
charge 20% of the undiscounted price of an entire system on
a yearly basis, and this fee was around 30% of the profit
for the entire division. They demanded this early on in the
product cycle because the product was the only one of the
many in the industry that actually worked right.  Sadly for
them, the competition got better and in about 5 years, that
profit completely vaporized.

All support costs money; but you have to be reasonable about
it. Being in that business myself, reliability is key, not
the latest fun thing from some software developer.  My new
employer (I will join them in July) still runs their
broadcast transcode processes using MS Server 2003.  Why? 
Because they know all the bugs in it, and they dont know the
bugs in Server 2010 yet.  When it has to run 24x7x365, the
devil you know is better than the devil you dont know.

Windows updates!  Larry Phipps, being a broadcast engineer,
understands this scary thing. Tell you a quick horror story
about Windows Update.  A local station in Pittsburgh
installed a new whiz-bang automated news production system
to automate their newscast production a few years ago. 
Where they would employ 15 people in the making of this
program, now with the automation, they only needed 5 to do
an even fancier show! The system ran on Windows machines. It
was installed and worked wonderfully; the customer was very
happy.  The factory installation engineer (a personal friend
of mine) personally turned off all the Windows Update
settings on the many machines that comprised this system,
and admonished the station engineering folks to leave this
feature turned off, which they did.  The system ran
perfectly for several months until one day, the entire
system collapsed, relegating the noon and 5pm newscasts to
being performed with news cameras hastily set up in the
station parking lot.  Upon investigation of the problem by
my friend after a hurried trip to the station, it was found
that a station IT guy had turned on Windows Update on one of
the newsroom computer interface machines. When this machine
decided to update itself right before the noon news, it
brought the ENTIRE automation system down with it.

Moral of the story:  Windows Updates can kill you.

Lu - w4lt-
K3 #3192

-

Message: 18
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:56:20 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 4fbad624.3000...@embarqmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

If you want an extended example of the PC implementation of
SDR, take a 
look at LP-PAN.  That is an SDR converter (for receive
only) to take 
the IF of a receiver and convert it to I/Q signals which can
be further 
processed in a panadapter display on a personal computer.

One of the things Larry Phipps emphasizes is that once you
get 
everything working, do NOT allow Windows to update.  While
supposedly, 
Windows updates are good for security  situations, it is
known that such 
updates will upset the applecart with the SDR handling
software.

I bring this example in to point out the dependency that SDR
systems 
that use a personal computer have on the operating system
which can 
change from day to day.  The embedded processor does not
have that 
exposure, and IMHO is much better because it is more stable.

The downloadable firmware for the K3 and KX3 definitely put
those radios 
into the SDR arena.  I certainly hope Elecraft does not
begin to charge 
$200 a year for firmware (and technical) support.
Yes, charging for upgrades within the software community is
not unknown, 
and I do not begrudge Carl N4PY for doing that - he has an
excellent 
product, but $200 a year 

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?

2012-05-22 Thread John Ragle
While I agree with almost all of this polemic, I disagree totally with 
the Moral of the story videre licet if one is foolish enough to let a 
functional (and therefore invaluable) collection of software be at the 
mercy of the cloud (any cloud!) by not having a local bit image backup 
at hand, then one gets what one deserves, e.g. Swiss cheese for 
feet.Even in as narrow a domain as the software for Elecraft boxes, the 
designers have made careful provision for users to have backups on hand 
(LOCAL files of operational software).

It is vitally important to practice safe sectors. A bit image backup 
takes only a few minutes, and can be made on an auxiliary hard drive or 
a jump drive. This operating philosophy has been known since dust was 
invented, and is not the last refuge of a paranoid person, only a means 
to protect oneself.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

=

On 5/22/2012 10:53 AM, Lu Romero wrote:
 SnipMoral of the story:  Windows Updates can kill you./Snip

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[Elecraft] dayton seems rto be OT

2012-05-22 Thread ussv dharma
talk about off topic posts...what about all the dayton posts.

 
If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
 
Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM
 USSV DHARMA
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[Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread John Bekema
Hello group!

I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on your P3
when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
pretty dead.

http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
installing the subrx.


Thank you for your comments!


Kind regards,

John de OH2GBA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I didn't see any while centered on 28.300 MHz.

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of John Bekema [john.bek...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:30 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

Hello group!

I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on your P3
when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
pretty dead.

http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
installing the subrx.


Thank you for your comments!


Kind regards,

John de OH2GBA
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?

2012-05-22 Thread Lu Romero
My apologies, I read the digest and was not aware that the
discussion subject was closed.  Sorry for the bandwidth.

-lu-w4lt-
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[Elecraft] Bit image backup: Safe sectors

2012-05-22 Thread James Robbins
John,

 

Could you be more specific about your process for bit image backup and
safe sectors?  Program you use?  What files you choose to backup?  Whether
Windows Restore program is or is not a suitable substitute?  Thanks.

 

73,

Jim Robbins

N1JR

 

It is vitally important to practice safe sectors. A bit image backup
takes only a few minutes, and can be made on an auxiliary hard drive or a
jump drive.

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[Elecraft] KX3 kit shipments

2012-05-22 Thread Phillip Shepard
There hasn't been any update to the shipping status of kit KX3s in the past
week, and the shipments were projected to start last Friday.  Has anybody
heard anything new or gotten their notice from Elecraft?  Thanks.

73,
Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?

2012-05-22 Thread David Gilbert


That's rather a stretch.  It's the equivalent of saying that updating 
your K3 firmware to the latest approved release in the middle of a 
contest will hurt your score.   It's the timing of the action that 
kills, not the action itself.

The moral to that anecdote isn't the one you think it is.

Dave   AB7E



On 5/22/2012 7:53 AM, Lu Romero wrote:
 When this machine
 decided to update itself right before the noon news, it
 brought the ENTIRE automation system down with it.

 Moral of the story:  Windows Updates can kill you.

 Lu - w4lt-
 K3 #3192

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello John,

Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz apart, 
leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of power 
supply.

Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of the 
10m band?

73,
Geoff
LX2AO


On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:


 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on 
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 kit shipments

2012-05-22 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
New KX3 shipping status has now been posted at:
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm

We are still waking up and recovering from Dayton. I finally got home 
after midnight Monday morning.. ;-)

73,

Eric
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www.elecraft.com


On 5/22/2012 9:59 AM, Phillip Shepard wrote:
 There hasn't been any update to the shipping status of kit KX3s in the past
 week, and the shipments were projected to start last Friday.  Has anybody
 heard anything new or gotten their notice from Elecraft?  Thanks.

 73,
 Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread John Bekema
Hello Geoff!

I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
the birdies are a bit less.

On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
subreceiver. (receivers linked)

Ideas?

John


2012/5/22 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu:
 Hello John,

 Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz apart,
 leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of power
 supply.

 Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of the
 10m band?

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:


 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA





-- 
Regards,
John Bekema
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[Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread Jim Lowman
Just a thought - I agree completely about the harm that software
updates can do.

But isn't there another problem lurking with passing time?
I refer to the obsolescence of some dedicated processors that
are no longer available from their source.

Will Elecraft be able to support these embedded processors
well into the future?  It's been mentioned that the older, tube-based
radios of 50 years ago work just fine today (as long as one can
still obtain the required tubes).  I don't expect to be around when
any of my Elecraft transceivers hit the 50-year mark, but I'd like
to think that they'll be good to go 20-30 years from now.

One other note on software:  I have some software for receivers
and transceivers that are currently on the shelf (example: a Ten-Tec
Pegasus) that were designed back in the days of DOS or Windows 95.
It will be interesting to see if they will still work with Windows 7.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 5/22/2012 7:53 AM, Lu Romero wrote:
 Some final comments while watching this thread progress:

 I agree with Lyle... SDR does not mean processing by PC.
 Our K3's and KX3's are fully qualified Software Defined
 Radios with processing on embedded processors.  Sort of like
 what Flex is looking to build now.  It doesnt matter where
 the code runs, folks, just because it doesnt run on external
 Intel silicon does not mean it aint an SDR!

 The Embedded Systems approach is a safer path than trusting
 your device (perhipheral?) to the vagarities of personal
 computer OS and hardware progress.  At least you have SOME
 control of the environment!  Professional applications have
 to be more resilient to the whims of software and hardware
 changes that will rear their ugly heads at the worst
 possible times.  The big push for Elecraft to embrace USB
 instead of serial comms comes directly to mind... RS232 is
 well defined and robust.  I certainly do not want to be left
 to the whims of USB driver code with my computer to radio
 comms.  I get enough of this stuff at work to have to deal
 with it when Im trying to relax on the radio.


 Lu - w4lt-
 K3 #3192


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread dmoes
do you have WiFi

my dlink router is throwing birdies big time  and its still there when 
the antenna is disconnected. havn't checked the spacing but that 
seems about correct. They are most noticable on 15-10m  havn't tried 
6m.  one birdie sits right on a local 10m net frequency so when the 
net's on the internet is off and router unplugged, much to the 
grumbling of the rest of the family.the band seems clean when the 
router is unplugged.



David Moes
VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu
 Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  1:54 PM

 Hello Geoff!

 I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
 the birdies are a bit less.

 On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
 S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
 to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
 is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

 Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
 the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
 receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
 subreceiver. (receivers linked)

 Ideas?

 John


 2012/5/22 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu:

 Hello John,

 Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz 
 apart,
 leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of 
 power
 supply.

 Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of 
 the
 10m band?

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:



 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see 
 on
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA





 --
 Regards,
 John Bekema
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Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim,

I don't think software updates are a problem, but Windows Automatic 
Updates can (and do) happen at the most inconvenient times.

I do not believe concern about obsolescence of dedicated processors is 
any great problem.  The K3 could be re-designed with a different 
processor to take care of repairs.
Loading of updated firmware into a dedicated processor is a concern 
because transmission methods tend to change from time to time - consider 
the problem the older Flex owners have bedause Flex choose to use 
Firewire - and I foresee USB going the same way.  I am very glad to see 
that the K3 and KX3 have serial interfaces.  Serial ports may be 
disappearing from consumer computers, but there are readily available 
adapters.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2012 1:54 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
 Just a thought - I agree completely about the harm that software
 updates can do.

 But isn't there another problem lurking with passing time?
 I refer to the obsolescence of some dedicated processors that
 are no longer available from their source.

 Will Elecraft be able to support these embedded processors
 well into the future?  It's been mentioned that the older, tube-based
 radios of 50 years ago work just fine today (as long as one can
 still obtain the required tubes).  I don't expect to be around when
 any of my Elecraft transceivers hit the 50-year mark, but I'd like
 to think that they'll be good to go 20-30 years from now.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Tony Estep
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:08 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:

 ...my dlink router is throwing birdies big time...

==
I have encountered this same problem with all the wifi routers I've tried.
My solution has three parts: I put the router as far away from the shack as
feasible while still getting good wifi connectivity; I shortened all the
cables and wires connecting to the router as much as possible; and I
festooned those cables and wires with ferrites. Note that if you have a
cable modem, the router may radiate junk back into your house's tv-cable
wiring, and birdies can get into the shack via that route. Anyway, once you
realize the problem and know where the birdies are, you can attack it and
with some patience, you can attenuate most or even all of them below the
level of audibility.

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Re: [Elecraft] Bit image backup: Safe sectors

2012-05-22 Thread John Ragle
Hi, Jim...

 There are several programs that make literal copies (mirror copies) 
of disk contents. This includes the OS and all program files as well as 
data...

 I happen to have been using one called Macrium Reflect 
Professional for the last few years. It produces a bit-for-bit literal 
image (a mirror copy) of the TOTAL contents of one or more hard drives, 
and can re-load such images. It does much more than copy data files. At 
present, I am using a PC with 2 inboard hard drives, each of 250 GB 
capacity. One of these is my WIN7 Ultimate OS and associated files 
(including programs, etc), and is about 80 GB in total content. The 
second is my Ubuntu 11.10 OS and a somewhat smaller collection of files 
(including programs, etc.) I back up the former almost daily onto a 1 TB 
external USB hard drive, and somewhat less frequently onto a Sandisk 64 
GB stick...the 80 GB on the C:\ drive fit nicely onto the 64 GB stick 
with the compression used by Macrium. The rate-determining step in these 
USB-based devices is the USB transfer rate itself; 80 GB takes about 25 
minutes to back or restore, and I do it last thing at night, letting 
Macrium close down the PC when finished.

 If I had a third drive bay, I would probably choose to back up onto 
a third drive...hard drives have become so inexpensive that you can 
practically use them like floppy drives. This would be significantly 
faster, about 10-12 minutes for the 80 GB contents of C:\

 A while ago, I used a Sparc 20 with a shoebox tape drive and DAT 
Tapes, but that had little to do with my ham radio operation. These 
were unsatisfactory because the error rate was significant. I also tried 
using an elderly PC as a network server at home on our LAN. That too was 
somewhat cumbersome. My wife is an active software developer (vide the 
OWL system from Cengage), and separately uses a version of Macrium 
onto a 1 TB external drive, but much of her work is stored on a 
corporate cloud, and hopefully backed up there as well.

 I do not have a high opinion of Windows Restore -- it is 
significantly more involved to use than is Macrium Reflect.

 An advantage (to me the most significant one) of doing a bit-image 
backup is that when it comes time to restore program files (i.e. .exe 
files, etc), one does not have to search out the distribution media and 
play baking cookies with those media for hours to rebuild the system.

 A disadvantage of doing a bit-image backup is that in the absence 
of good garbage collection one keeps using the same general structure 
over and over again...a case can be made for rebuilding from scratch 
(not from the bit image) on a regular basis...some have suggested once a 
year, at least.

 The Linux crowd can tell you of several useful Linux based 
utilities for total backup, restore, partitioning, etc...I won't 
enumerate them here, though many of them are very useful.

 In general, I don't favor running anything off the cloud. My ISP 
is sometimes down for 1 or more hours, and that mode of dis-operation 
would leave me in the cold. Moreover, in view of the spate of successful 
hacking attacks, I don't trust cloud security. If I disconnect from the 
internet, the only ways someone can hack me are via my WiFi or to 
physically break into my home. I have taken pains to barricade the 
former. The latter takes care of itself in the usual way.

 Hope this answers your questions

John Ragle -- W1ZI

=

On 5/22/2012 12:59 PM, James Robbins wrote:
 John,



 Could you be more specific about your process for bit image backup and
 safe sectors?  Program you use?  What files you choose to backup?  Whether
 Windows Restore program is or is not a suitable substitute?  Thanks.



 73,

 Jim Robbins

 N1JR



 It is vitally important to practice safe sectors. A bit image backup
 takes only a few minutes, and can be made on an auxiliary hard drive or a
 jump drive.

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[Elecraft] Running Windows on a MAC

2012-05-22 Thread EMD
Hello,

Recently I have had the need to run windows on my MAC.  I'm using Parallels
to run Windows 7.  I have been told that I do not need Anti Virus software
on the windows side since I already use it on the MAC side.  Does anyone
have any thoughts on this?

73, Ed
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Re: [Elecraft] Running Windows on a MAC

2012-05-22 Thread Andrew Siegel
The Mac antivirus is unlikely able to see or deal with malware on the
Windows virtual disk.  So in my opinion, yes, you will need Windows
antivirus as well.

73,
Andy, N2CN

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:23 PM, EMD edwarddo...@mac.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Recently I have had the need to run windows on my MAC.  I'm using Parallels
 to run Windows 7.  I have been told that I do not need Anti Virus software
 on the windows side since I already use it on the MAC side.  Does anyone
 have any thoughts on this?

 73, Ed
 K3ENV
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread John Bekema
I am not sure if this is related to any wifi/switching power supply

Check an other picture:
http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies2.png

The P3 is in 'Fixed tune mode' (so when you turn the dial, the green
bar will move)
You see that the 'birdies' move, quickly. At 50.024 you see a CW beacon.

When removing the antenna, the 'birdies' stay.

John

2012/5/22  dm...@nexicom.net:
 do you have WiFi

 my dlink router is throwing birdies big time  and its still there when
 the antenna is disconnected.     havn't checked the spacing but that
 seems about correct. They are most noticable on 15-10m  havn't tried
 6m.  one birdie sits right on a local 10m net frequency so when the
 net's on the internet is off and router unplugged, much to the
 grumbling of the rest of the family.    the band seems clean when the
 router is unplugged.



 David Moes
 VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu
 Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  1:54 PM

 Hello Geoff!

 I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
 the birdies are a bit less.

 On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
 S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
 to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
 is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

 Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
 the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
 receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
 subreceiver. (receivers linked)

 Ideas?

 John


 2012/5/22 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu:

 Hello John,

 Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz
 apart,
 leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of
 power
 supply.

 Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of
 the
 10m band?

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:



 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see
 on
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA





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Re: [Elecraft] Running Windows on a MAC

2012-05-22 Thread Scott Manthe
Ed,
This is incorrect. Each operating system is victimized by threats 
specific to that OS. You'll need a Windows anti-virus/anti-malware 
product if you run Windows on your Mac. Also, unless you plan to use 
both OSs simultaneously, you don't need to run Parallels. You can boot 
directly into Windows on an Intel Mac using Boot Camp.


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 5/22/12 2:23 PM, EMD wrote:
 Hello,

 Recently I have had the need to run windows on my MAC.  I'm using Parallels
 to run Windows 7.  I have been told that I do not need Anti Virus software
 on the windows side since I already use it on the MAC side.  Does anyone
 have any thoughts on this?

 73, Ed
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread dmoes
hmm  wierd another source in our home for birdies  is the 
front loading washer, its another badie   Its motor is some kind of DC 
servo or VF-AC.  With the variation that you are seeing It may be 
something with a motor. It tends to be problematic  on 80 and 40. 
and I believe they are moving, i dont have the p3 so I cant say for 
sure but it seems so when I see it in the puny view that EasyPal 
offers.



David Moes
VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com
 To: dm...@nexicom.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  2:30 PM

 I am not sure if this is related to any wifi/switching power supply

 Check an other picture:
 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies2.png

 The P3 is in 'Fixed tune mode' (so when you turn the dial, the green
 bar will move)
 You see that the 'birdies' move, quickly. At 50.024 you see a CW 
 beacon.

 When removing the antenna, the 'birdies' stay.

 John

 2012/5/22  dm...@nexicom.net:

 do you have WiFi

 my dlink router is throwing birdies big time  and its still there when
 the antenna is disconnected. havn't checked the spacing but that
 seems about correct. They are most noticable on 15-10m  havn't tried
 6m.  one birdie sits right on a local 10m net frequency so when the
 net's on the internet is off and router unplugged, much to the
 grumbling of the rest of the family.the band seems clean when the
 router is unplugged.



 David Moes
 VE3DVY




 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu
 Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  1:54 PM

 Hello Geoff!

 I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
 the birdies are a bit less.

 On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
 S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
 to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
 is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

 Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
 the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
 receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
 subreceiver. (receivers linked)

 Ideas?

 John


 2012/5/22 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu:


 Hello John,

 Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz
 apart,
 leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of
 power
 supply.

 Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of
 the
 10m band?

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:




 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see
 on
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA





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Re: [Elecraft] Bit image backup: Safe sectors

2012-05-22 Thread Dave Hachadorian
 There are several programs that make literal copies (mirror
 copies)
of disk contents. This includes the OS and all program files as
well as
data...

I happen to have been using one called Macrium Reflect
Professional for the last few years. It produces a bit-for-bit
literal
image (a mirror copy) of the TOTAL contents of one or more hard
drives,
and can re-load such images.

I use the FREE version of Macrium Reflect, which seems to do all
of the essential things that the Pro version does.  I back up all
of the five computers in the house every now and then onto a
portable USB hard drive.  I tried doing this over the home
network, but carrying the portable hard drive around to each
individual computers turned out to be easier for me.  I haven't
had to restore a whole hard drive yet, but I have retrieved
individual files from the hard drive image, just to prove to
myself that it does work.  I have also verified that the bootable
rescue CD does bring up the appropriate menus for system or
file restoration.  This is one of those deals that you hope you
never have to use.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, Arizona 

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Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread David Gilbert


That's an interesting question, but I don't see how it is any different 
than for any other rig that has been introduced in the last 20 years.  
Microprocessors have been in use for ages to handle all sorts of tasks 
from menu functions to display.  It doesn't matter whether those 
processors are controlled from ROM or flash RAM, or whether the software 
processes signals or human interface ... when the processor quits so 
does the rig.

I suppose one way to mitigate the chance for obsolescence is to make as 
much of the rig modular as possible ... i.e., put the critical 
semiconductors (processors, flash ram, etc) on daughterboards that could 
be functionally replaced with more modern devices.  I think to a great 
extent Elecraft has done that in the K3, but let's be honest ... how 
many people would actually buy a 50 year old tube rig with the intent of 
making it their primary rig anyway?  The only reason anybody cares about 
such an old rig is nostalgia since the overall performance of a modern 
rig is much more compelling.  50 years from now that will probably be 
the case for the K3 as well, and I'm not even certain that ham radio 
will still be relevant enough then for anyone to care.

73,
Dave   AB7E




On 5/22/2012 10:54 AM, Jim Lowman wrote:
 Just a thought - I agree completely about the harm that software
 updates can do.

 But isn't there another problem lurking with passing time?
 I refer to the obsolescence of some dedicated processors that
 are no longer available from their source.

 Will Elecraft be able to support these embedded processors
 well into the future?  It's been mentioned that the older, tube-based
 radios of 50 years ago work just fine today (as long as one can
 still obtain the required tubes).  I don't expect to be around when
 any of my Elecraft transceivers hit the 50-year mark, but I'd like
 to think that they'll be good to go 20-30 years from now.

 One other note on software:  I have some software for receivers
 and transceivers that are currently on the shelf (example: a Ten-Tec
 Pegasus) that were designed back in the days of DOS or Windows 95.
 It will be interesting to see if they will still work with Windows 7.

 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-22 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Also will the tuner remember tuning values for various band segments? 
The 160m and 80m bands are, for example, rather wide, relatively speaking.

vy 73 de toby

On 21.05.2012 00:43, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Yes and yes.

 Wayne
 N6KR

 
 http://www.elecraft.com

 On May 20, 2012, at 5:00 PM, iain macdonnell - N6MLa...@dseven.org  wrote:

 Hi Dick/anyone,

 Does that mean that the KAT500 can automatically retune (based on
 memory) immediately on band-change, without any RF being transmitted?
 That'd be rather cool. If yes, can it also be told that some bands
 don't need matching, and so automatically go into bypass for those
 bands?

 73,

 ~iain
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Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread amsctalx
Redesigning an existing device to use a new microcontroller (not a PC 
microprocessor) is non-trivial; even pin-compatible parts often have changes in 
memory layout and peripheral addressing that drive software updates, compiler 
updates, etc. And if a pin-compatible part isn't available, then...it's a huge 
effort. I lived through this when last year's Tohoku (Japan) earthquake and 
tsunami caused a key Renesas plant to close, causing a huge scramble by 
automotive OEMs to change microcontrollers. There was a lot of pain and expense 
involved... 

And I strenuously disagree with the assertion that USB 2.0 will go the same 
way as FireWire. With an installed base estimated to be 15 billion devices, 
and full backwards compatibility from the successor to USB 2.0 (USB 3.0), I see 
a very long life for USB 2.0. More microprocessor and microcontroller 
architectures are including embedded USB 2.0 peripherals every day, and the 
roadmaps that I have seen show this trend continuing for the foreseeable 
future. RS-232-style ports are, on the other hand, not included in many new 
micros and are rapidly disappearing from silicon vendor roadmaps. 


Mike Alexander - N8MSA 

amsct...@comcast.net 

- Original Message -
From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com 
To: Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:15:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors 

Jim, 

I don't think software updates are a problem, but Windows Automatic 
Updates can (and do) happen at the most inconvenient times. 

I do not believe concern about obsolescence of dedicated processors is 
any great problem. The K3 could be re-designed with a different 
processor to take care of repairs. 
Loading of updated firmware into a dedicated processor is a concern 
because transmission methods tend to change from time to time - consider 
the problem the older Flex owners have bedause Flex choose to use 
Firewire - and I foresee USB going the same way. I am very glad to see 
that the K3 and KX3 have serial interfaces. Serial ports may be 
disappearing from consumer computers, but there are readily available 
adapters. 

73, 
Don W3FPR 

On 5/22/2012 1:54 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: 
 Just a thought - I agree completely about the harm that software 
 updates can do. 
 
 But isn't there another problem lurking with passing time? 
 I refer to the obsolescence of some dedicated processors that 
 are no longer available from their source. 
 
 Will Elecraft be able to support these embedded processors 
 well into the future? It's been mentioned that the older, tube-based 
 radios of 50 years ago work just fine today (as long as one can 
 still obtain the required tubes). I don't expect to be around when 
 any of my Elecraft transceivers hit the 50-year mark, but I'd like 
 to think that they'll be good to go 20-30 years from now. 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Keyboard

2012-05-22 Thread Bob
I need to issue a correction for a statement I made in an earlier post
concerning the USB Keyboard, P3, and JT65.  I incorrectly said that Joe
Taylor (the author of the protocol) had taken ill recently.  The good news
is that is not true.  The bad news is that I actually meant to say Joe
Large, the author of the JT65-HF implementation, had taken ill recently.

So my apologies to Joe Taylor, K1JT, and his many friends, for any concern
I might have caused.

And like all JT65-HF users, I continue to hope that Joe Large, W6CQZ,
continues to improve.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] Running Windows on a MAC

2012-05-22 Thread David Gilbert

I would heavily discount anything that person told you in the future 
because they clearly don't understand how that works.   When you run 
Windows on a MAC you are doing it in a separate partition of the hard 
drive and the Mac partition doesn't interface with it ... certainly not 
to the point of being able to police whatever goes on there.  Whether or 
not you need antivirus software on the Windows partition is purely a 
function of what you will be doing there.  If it never runs anything 
other than trusted software and never talks to the outside world (no 
internet access, no incoming files, etc) I doubt you would need it ... 
but for that reason, not the one your friend gave you.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 5/22/2012 11:23 AM, EMD wrote:
 Hello,

 Recently I have had the need to run windows on my MAC.  I'm using Parallels
 to run Windows 7.  I have been told that I do not need Anti Virus software
 on the windows side since I already use it on the MAC side.  Does anyone
 have any thoughts on this?

 73, Ed
 K3ENV

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Re: [Elecraft] Bit image backup: Safe sectors

2012-05-22 Thread Mike
I use Acronis True Image on the Win box. It's saved my bacon a couple of 
times.
The Mac comes with Time Machine, which takes a backup every hour.

73, Mike NF4L

On 5/22/12 12:59 PM, James Robbins wrote:
 John,



 Could you be more specific about your process for bit image backup and
 safe sectors?  Program you use?  What files you choose to backup?  Whether
 Windows Restore program is or is not a suitable substitute?  Thanks.



 73,

 Jim Robbins

 N1JR



 It is vitally important to practice safe sectors. A bit image backup
 takes only a few minutes, and can be made on an auxiliary hard drive or a
 jump drive.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread David Gilbert


I don't have a P3, but I do have a K3 and it is no secret to anyone that 
it is rife with low level birdies.  I also agree with the original post 
that the 2nd receiver compounds the problem ... the 2nd receiver is very 
well shielded (the main is not) and has almost no birdies, but my own 
experiments with cable routing showed that the 2nd receiver contributes 
to coupling of signals inside the rig.  The SIG RMV menu function added 
by Elecraft totally cured that problem for me and I now have no 
operating complaints at all, but SIG RMV doesn't make the birdies go 
away ... it just shifts each of them out of the normal receive 
passband.  I'm not surprised that they would still show up on a wideband 
spectrum display of the main receiver.

If you want to check, take the top off the K3 and move some cables 
around (the small coax ones leading to the front panel) while watching 
the P3.  If the blips change in amplitude you're watching birdies.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 5/22/2012 11:56 AM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:
 hmm  wierd another source in our home for birdies  is the
 front loading washer, its another badie   Its motor is some kind of DC
 servo or VF-AC.  With the variation that you are seeing It may be
 something with a motor. It tends to be problematic  on 80 and 40.
 and I believe they are moving, i dont have the p3 so I cant say for
 sure but it seems so when I see it in the puny view that EasyPal
 offers.



 David Moes
 VE3DVY


 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekemajohn.bek...@gmail.com
 To:dm...@nexicom.net
 Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  2:30 PM

 I am not sure if this is related to any wifi/switching power supply

 Check an other picture:
 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies2.png

 The P3 is in 'Fixed tune mode' (so when you turn the dial, the green
 bar will move)
 You see that the 'birdies' move, quickly. At 50.024 you see a CW
 beacon.

 When removing the antenna, the 'birdies' stay.

 John

 2012/5/22dm...@nexicom.net:
 do you have WiFi

 my dlink router is throwing birdies big time  and its still there when
 the antenna is disconnected. havn't checked the spacing but that
 seems about correct. They are most noticable on 15-10m  havn't tried
 6m.  one birdie sits right on a local 10m net frequency so when the
 net's on the internet is off and router unplugged, much to the
 grumbling of the rest of the family.the band seems clean when the
 router is unplugged.



 David Moes
 VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekemajohn.bek...@gmail.com
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedylx...@pt.lu
 Cc: Elecraft Discussion Listelecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  1:54 PM

 Hello Geoff!

 I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
 the birdies are a bit less.

 On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
 S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
 to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
 is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

 Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
 the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
 receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
 subreceiver. (receivers linked)

 Ideas?

 John


 2012/5/22 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedylx...@pt.lu:

 Hello John,

 Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz
 apart,
 leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of
 power
 supply.

 Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of
 the
 10m band?

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:



 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see
 on
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA



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Re: [Elecraft] Running Windows on a MAC

2012-05-22 Thread Stephen Prior
That's not exactly true.  Certainly, Windows can be installed on a separate
partition of the hard drive (I do it myself), but Parallels is a virtual
machine installed in the Mac OS and can even be run as a window on the Mac
screen like any other Mac application, resized, minimised, full screen etc.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 22 May 2012 20:33, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:


 I would heavily discount anything that person told you in the future
 because they clearly don't understand how that works.   When you run
 Windows on a MAC you are doing it in a separate partition of the hard
 drive and the Mac partition doesn't interface with it ... certainly not
 to the point of being able to police whatever goes on there.  Whether or
 not you need antivirus software on the Windows partition is purely a
 function of what you will be doing there.  If it never runs anything
 other than trusted software and never talks to the outside world (no
 internet access, no incoming files, etc) I doubt you would need it ...
 but for that reason, not the one your friend gave you.

 73,
 Dave   AB7E



 On 5/22/2012 11:23 AM, EMD wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Recently I have had the need to run windows on my MAC.  I'm using
 Parallels
  to run Windows 7.  I have been told that I do not need Anti Virus
 software
  on the windows side since I already use it on the MAC side.  Does anyone
  have any thoughts on this?
 
  73, Ed
  K3ENV
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Fred Jensen
On 5/22/2012 9:30 AM, John Bekema wrote:
 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on your 
 P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

No fast moving ones.  Very few fixed ones, mine come from the 
neighborhood wireless RAP at the top of my tower [we get free Internet 
:-)] and I know where they are.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

Your screenshot is fairly strange.  Are you sure they're coming from the 
K3?  I have an early K3 [#642], and when I calibrated the S-meter and 
P3, I had to run the transfer gain in the P3 very high, which produced a 
bunch of birdies on the P3 that I couldn't tune to [they moved with 
the receive cursor].  I think they were being generated in the P3.  I 
did the IF level mod [change one resistor in the K3] and everything is 
normal now.

Are they there with no antenna?  Does the RF Gain affect them?

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] Running Mac on Windows

2012-05-22 Thread kevinr
I have found Virtual Box is great at testing and using various OSes from 
one machine without rebooting.  I have one box running eight different 
OSes when I want them.  Linux in its many flavors, Windows of various 
generations, Mac OSes of various eras, and my latest find: Haiku.  For 
those of you familiar with BeOS Haiku will be a pleasant foray into the 
past.  After Be went out of business many programmers decided not to let 
to OS die.  So they, like Linus Torvalds, took it upon themselves to 
rewrite the code in open source form.  Haiku is their model of BeOS.  It 
works surprisingly well and mounting all of my NTFS files is automatic.  
It runs well under Virtual Box too.

Please install and try Virtual Box on your machines to allow you to use 
legacy code on each of your boxes.
 Kevin.  KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-22 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Yes.  

Dick, K6KR

On May 22, 2012, at 12:22, Toby Deinhardt dj7...@muenchen-mail.de wrote:

 Also will the tuner remember tuning values for various band segments? 
 The 160m and 80m bands are, for example, rather wide, relatively speaking.
 
 vy 73 de toby
 
 On 21.05.2012 00:43, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Yes and yes.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 http://www.elecraft.com
 
 On May 20, 2012, at 5:00 PM, iain macdonnell - N6MLa...@dseven.org  wrote:
 
 Hi Dick/anyone,
 
 Does that mean that the KAT500 can automatically retune (based on
 memory) immediately on band-change, without any RF being transmitted?
 That'd be rather cool. If yes, can it also be told that some bands
 don't need matching, and so automatically go into bypass for those
 bands?
 
 73,
 
~iain
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Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread Alan Bloom
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 10:54 -0700, Jim Lowman wrote:
...
 But isn't there another problem lurking with passing time?
 I refer to the obsolescence of some dedicated processors that
 are no longer available from their source.
 
 Will Elecraft be able to support these embedded processors
 well into the future? 

That may be one reason why Elecraft has chosen to go with mostly PIC
processors.  Microchip has been very good about continuing to make and
support their older designs.  (Have they ever obsoleted a PIC
processor?)

Alan N1AL


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Re: [Elecraft] Running Mac on Windows

2012-05-22 Thread John Ragle
I presume Kevin is referring to Oracle VirtualBox. If that is the case, 
I have to report that I was unable to run FLDIGI under Ubuntu 11.10 in 
the VM because it would not properly communicate with a PCI board 
slotted into my MoBo to provide serial I/O. I moved the Linux to a 
separate hard drive in a dual-boot configuration, and in this instance 
it runs perfectly well. I was not able to pinpoint the source of 
difficulty with Ubuntu running in the VM vis-a-vis FLDIGI, although 
otherwise it was perfectly satisfactory.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

=

On 5/22/2012 4:41 PM, kevinr wrote:
 snipI have found Virtual Box is great at testing and using various 
 OSes from one machine without rebooting./snip
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Re: [Elecraft] Running Mac on Windows

2012-05-22 Thread KQ8M
Thanks for the tip, Kevin.

Tim Herrick, KQ8M
Charter Member North Coast Contesters
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:42 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Running Mac on Windows

I have found Virtual Box is great at testing and using various OSes from 
one machine without rebooting.  I have one box running eight different 
OSes when I want them.  Linux in its many flavors, Windows of various 
generations, Mac OSes of various eras, and my latest find: Haiku.  For 
those of you familiar with BeOS Haiku will be a pleasant foray into the 
past.  After Be went out of business many programmers decided not to let 
to OS die.  So they, like Linus Torvalds, took it upon themselves to 
rewrite the code in open source form.  Haiku is their model of BeOS.  It 
works surprisingly well and mounting all of my NTFS files is automatic.  
It runs well under Virtual Box too.

Please install and try Virtual Box on your machines to allow you to use 
legacy code on each of your boxes.
 Kevin.  KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] Running Windows on a MAC

2012-05-22 Thread David Gilbert

I guess I stand corrected then.  I was thinking more of Boot Camp, which 
I've used and I'm pretty sure is always a separate partition.  Even with 
Parallels, though, the two OS's don't speak to each other if Parallels 
installs as a virtual machine.

Thanks for the correction es 73,
Dave   AB7E



On 5/22/2012 1:06 PM, Stephen Prior wrote:
 That's not exactly true.  Certainly, Windows can be installed on a 
 separate partition of the hard drive (I do it myself), but Parallels 
 is a virtual machine installed in the Mac OS and can even be run as a 
 window on the Mac screen like any other Mac application, resized, 
 minimised, full screen etc.

 73 Stephen G4SJP

 On 22 May 2012 20:33, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com 
 mailto:xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:


 I would heavily discount anything that person told you in the future
 because they clearly don't understand how that works.   When you run
 Windows on a MAC you are doing it in a separate partition of the hard
 drive and the Mac partition doesn't interface with it ...
 certainly not
 to the point of being able to police whatever goes on there.
  Whether or
 not you need antivirus software on the Windows partition is purely a
 function of what you will be doing there.  If it never runs anything
 other than trusted software and never talks to the outside world (no
 internet access, no incoming files, etc) I doubt you would need it ...
 but for that reason, not the one your friend gave you.

 73,
 Dave   AB7E



 On 5/22/2012 11:23 AM, EMD wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Recently I have had the need to run windows on my MAC.  I'm
 using Parallels
  to run Windows 7.  I have been told that I do not need Anti
 Virus software
  on the windows side since I already use it on the MAC side.
  Does anyone
  have any thoughts on this?
 
  73, Ed
  K3ENV
 
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[Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

2012-05-22 Thread Jack Colson
With all the comments about the upgraded or improved AGC is their a 
consensus as to starting values?  I realize that these can be tailored 
for specific situations but a default starting set would be helpful.

Thank you in advance,
73,
Jack, W3TMZ 

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[Elecraft] Collins

2012-05-22 Thread Phil LaMarche
Back home.  Please send the pictures and write up so I can get started.  YU
Had a great time!

 

Phil

 

Philip LaMarche

 

 

727-944-3226

727-510-5038 Cell 

  http://www.w9dvm.com/ www.w9dvm.com

 http://WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM

 

K3 # 1605

KPA500 # 029

P3 #1480

 

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CRA 1701

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[Elecraft] FW: Collins

2012-05-22 Thread Phil LaMarche
Sorry, went to the wrong addressee.

Philip LaMarche

 
727-944-3226
727-510-5038 Cell 
 www.w9dvm.com
WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM

K3 # 1605
KPA500 # 029
P3 #1480

 CCA 98-00827
CRA 1701
W9DVM
 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil LaMarche
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Collins

Back home.  Please send the pictures and write up so I can get started.  YU
Had a great time!

 

Phil

 

Philip LaMarche

 

 

727-944-3226

727-510-5038 Cell 

  http://www.w9dvm.com/ www.w9dvm.com

 http://WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM

 

K3 # 1605

KPA500 # 029

P3 #1480

 

 CCA 98-00827

CRA 1701

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-22 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
But presumably you'd have to transmit some RF for the KAT500 to know
whereabouts in the band you are assuming it's using the band-data
from the ACC port... or is there an AUXBUS way for it to get
more-granular QRG data?

~iain / N6ML


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 Yes.

 Dick, K6KR

 On May 22, 2012, at 12:22, Toby Deinhardt dj7...@muenchen-mail.de wrote:

 Also will the tuner remember tuning values for various band segments?
 The 160m and 80m bands are, for example, rather wide, relatively speaking.

 vy 73 de toby

 On 21.05.2012 00:43, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Yes and yes.

 Wayne
 N6KR

 
 http://www.elecraft.com

 On May 20, 2012, at 5:00 PM, iain macdonnell - N6MLa...@dseven.org  wrote:

 Hi Dick/anyone,

 Does that mean that the KAT500 can automatically retune (based on
 memory) immediately on band-change, without any RF being transmitted?
 That'd be rather cool. If yes, can it also be told that some bands
 don't need matching, and so automatically go into bypass for those
 bands?

 73,

    ~iain
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Re: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

2012-05-22 Thread Peter Chamalian
I have not had a sufficiently large or loud pile up to test the AGC mods
under battle conditions.  Perhaps this weekend...

I have my AGC values all set at the default levels except AGC THR which is
13.

I'll be interested to hear what others are doing.

Pete, W1RM


-Original Message-
From: Jack Colson [mailto:jcols...@tampabay.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

With all the comments about the upgraded or improved AGC is their a
consensus as to starting values?  I realize that these can be tailored for
specific situations but a default starting set would be helpful.

Thank you in advance,
73,
Jack, W3TMZ 

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Re: [Elecraft] Running Windows on a MAC

2012-05-22 Thread Jack Brindle
I run VirtualBox and WM Ware Fusion on my Mac systems when I need to  
use Windows programs. Windows runs quite well on the VMs. It gives me  
a huge advantage that I can quickly create a new VM if needed (just  
copy an old one - I keep template Windows installations for that). I  
also do not run Anti-Virus on the Windows VMs. Why? Because Windows  
does not see the internet. I'm a Mac user - I do everything I can  
there, especially email and internet access. If I need a Windows file  
I download it through the Mac and simply move it over to the Windows  
VM. Both VMware and VirtualBox provide very nice facilities for moving  
the files and data back and forth. If I were to encounter any  
problems, I simply would roll back the VM to a previous snapshot and  
keep going. After many years, I have never had to do this due to any  
malware. but then I am very careful about things like this.

So, if you are careful you don't need AV on Windows VMs. The key word  
is careful.

As for running Mac in a VM, be sure to read the Apple license  
agreements, then think again what it is you want to do. Apple allows  
very few versions of its OS to run in VMs - mostly just the server  
versions. This may be changing with Lion and Mountain Lion, but so far  
the answer has been no, don't do that.

Jack B, W6FB


On May 22, 2012, at 2:15 PM, David Gilbert wrote:


 I guess I stand corrected then.  I was thinking more of Boot Camp,  
 which
 I've used and I'm pretty sure is always a separate partition.  Even  
 with
 Parallels, though, the two OS's don't speak to each other if Parallels
 installs as a virtual machine.

 Thanks for the correction es 73,
 Dave   AB7E



 On 5/22/2012 1:06 PM, Stephen Prior wrote:
 That's not exactly true.  Certainly, Windows can be installed on a
 separate partition of the hard drive (I do it myself), but Parallels
 is a virtual machine installed in the Mac OS and can even be run as a
 window on the Mac screen like any other Mac application, resized,
 minimised, full screen etc.

 73 Stephen G4SJP

 On 22 May 2012 20:33, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com
 mailto:xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:


I would heavily discount anything that person told you in the  
 future
because they clearly don't understand how that works.   When you  
 run
Windows on a MAC you are doing it in a separate partition of the  
 hard
drive and the Mac partition doesn't interface with it ...
certainly not
to the point of being able to police whatever goes on there.
 Whether or
not you need antivirus software on the Windows partition is  
 purely a
function of what you will be doing there.  If it never runs  
 anything
other than trusted software and never talks to the outside world  
 (no
internet access, no incoming files, etc) I doubt you would need  
 it ...
but for that reason, not the one your friend gave you.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 5/22/2012 11:23 AM, EMD wrote:
 Hello,

 Recently I have had the need to run windows on my MAC.  I'm
using Parallels
 to run Windows 7.  I have been told that I do not need Anti
Virus software
 on the windows side since I already use it on the MAC side.
 Does anyone
 have any thoughts on this?

 73, Ed
 K3ENV

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Re: [Elecraft] Bit image backup: Safe sectors

2012-05-22 Thread Jack Brindle
John;

Be very careful with a sector-by-sector backup utility if you decide  
to use an SSD. Solid State Drives constantly are moving sector  
locations around in order to avoid writing to the same flash location  
too many times. This occurs whenever a file needs to be updated or  
rewritten, and is especially true of the directory sectors. Because of  
this a backup may catch a file relocation in mid move, or more often  
catch a directory update while it is being moved, The result will be a  
completely useless backup. We discovered this recently when a friend  
needed to restore his system from a backup.

The answer is to use a normal file-oriented backup instead of a sector- 
by-sector backup. Those backups are very much useful when needed. With  
the trend to replace disks with SSDs, especially in laptops, this will  
become very important.

For those wondering, TIme Machine is indeed a file backup and not  
sector-by-sector. I recommend it whole heartedly!

Jack Brindle, W6FB


On May 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, John Ragle wrote:

 Hi, Jim...

 There are several programs that make literal copies (mirror  
 copies)
 of disk contents. This includes the OS and all program files as well  
 as
 data...

 I happen to have been using one called Macrium Reflect
 Professional for the last few years. It produces a bit-for-bit  
 literal
 image (a mirror copy) of the TOTAL contents of one or more hard  
 drives,
 and can re-load such images. It does much more than copy data files.  
 At
 present, I am using a PC with 2 inboard hard drives, each of 250 GB
 capacity. One of these is my WIN7 Ultimate OS and associated files
 (including programs, etc), and is about 80 GB in total content. The
 second is my Ubuntu 11.10 OS and a somewhat smaller collection of  
 files
 (including programs, etc.) I back up the former almost daily onto a  
 1 TB
 external USB hard drive, and somewhat less frequently onto a Sandisk  
 64
 GB stick...the 80 GB on the C:\ drive fit nicely onto the 64 GB stick
 with the compression used by Macrium. The rate-determining step in  
 these
 USB-based devices is the USB transfer rate itself; 80 GB takes about  
 25
 minutes to back or restore, and I do it last thing at night, letting
 Macrium close down the PC when finished.

 If I had a third drive bay, I would probably choose to back up  
 onto
 a third drive...hard drives have become so inexpensive that you can
 practically use them like floppy drives. This would be significantly
 faster, about 10-12 minutes for the 80 GB contents of C:\

 A while ago, I used a Sparc 20 with a shoebox tape drive and DAT
 Tapes, but that had little to do with my ham radio operation. These
 were unsatisfactory because the error rate was significant. I also  
 tried
 using an elderly PC as a network server at home on our LAN. That too  
 was
 somewhat cumbersome. My wife is an active software developer (vide the
 OWL system from Cengage), and separately uses a version of Macrium
 onto a 1 TB external drive, but much of her work is stored on a
 corporate cloud, and hopefully backed up there as well.

 I do not have a high opinion of Windows Restore -- it is
 significantly more involved to use than is Macrium Reflect.

 An advantage (to me the most significant one) of doing a bit-image
 backup is that when it comes time to restore program files (i.e. .exe
 files, etc), one does not have to search out the distribution media  
 and
 play baking cookies with those media for hours to rebuild the  
 system.

 A disadvantage of doing a bit-image backup is that in the absence
 of good garbage collection one keeps using the same general  
 structure
 over and over again...a case can be made for rebuilding from scratch
 (not from the bit image) on a regular basis...some have suggested  
 once a
 year, at least.

 The Linux crowd can tell you of several useful Linux based
 utilities for total backup, restore, partitioning, etc...I won't
 enumerate them here, though many of them are very useful.

 In general, I don't favor running anything off the cloud. My ISP
 is sometimes down for 1 or more hours, and that mode of dis-operation
 would leave me in the cold. Moreover, in view of the spate of  
 successful
 hacking attacks, I don't trust cloud security. If I disconnect from  
 the
 internet, the only ways someone can hack me are via my WiFi or to
 physically break into my home. I have taken pains to barricade the
 former. The latter takes care of itself in the usual way.

 Hope this answers your questions

 John Ragle -- W1ZI

 =

 On 5/22/2012 12:59 PM, James Robbins wrote:
 John,



 Could you be more specific about your process for bit image  
 backup and
 safe sectors?  Program you use?  What files you choose to  
 backup?  Whether
 Windows Restore program is or is not a suitable substitute?  Thanks.



 73,

 Jim Robbins

 N1JR



 It is vitally important to practice safe sectors. A bit image  
 backup
 takes only a few 

Re: [Elecraft] Bit image backup: Safe sectors

2012-05-22 Thread Jessie Oberreuter

  Whenever I truly need a sector by sector backup, I boot a 
stand-alone linux image and use 'dd' to copy the data directly from the 
raw device.  -kb7psg


On Tue, 22 May 2012, Jack Brindle wrote:

 John;

 Be very careful with a sector-by-sector backup utility if you decide
 to use an SSD. Solid State Drives constantly are moving sector
 locations around in order to avoid writing to the same flash location
 too many times. This occurs whenever a file needs to be updated or
 rewritten, and is especially true of the directory sectors. Because of
 this a backup may catch a file relocation in mid move, or more often
 catch a directory update while it is being moved, The result will be a
 completely useless backup. We discovered this recently when a friend
 needed to restore his system from a backup.

 The answer is to use a normal file-oriented backup instead of a sector-
 by-sector backup. Those backups are very much useful when needed. With
 the trend to replace disks with SSDs, especially in laptops, this will
 become very important.

 For those wondering, TIme Machine is indeed a file backup and not
 sector-by-sector. I recommend it whole heartedly!

 Jack Brindle, W6FB


 On May 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, John Ragle wrote:

 Hi, Jim...

 There are several programs that make literal copies (mirror
 copies)
 of disk contents. This includes the OS and all program files as well
 as
 data...

 I happen to have been using one called Macrium Reflect
 Professional for the last few years. It produces a bit-for-bit
 literal
 image (a mirror copy) of the TOTAL contents of one or more hard
 drives,
 and can re-load such images. It does much more than copy data files.
 At
 present, I am using a PC with 2 inboard hard drives, each of 250 GB
 capacity. One of these is my WIN7 Ultimate OS and associated files
 (including programs, etc), and is about 80 GB in total content. The
 second is my Ubuntu 11.10 OS and a somewhat smaller collection of
 files
 (including programs, etc.) I back up the former almost daily onto a
 1 TB
 external USB hard drive, and somewhat less frequently onto a Sandisk
 64
 GB stick...the 80 GB on the C:\ drive fit nicely onto the 64 GB stick
 with the compression used by Macrium. The rate-determining step in
 these
 USB-based devices is the USB transfer rate itself; 80 GB takes about
 25
 minutes to back or restore, and I do it last thing at night, letting
 Macrium close down the PC when finished.

 If I had a third drive bay, I would probably choose to back up
 onto
 a third drive...hard drives have become so inexpensive that you can
 practically use them like floppy drives. This would be significantly
 faster, about 10-12 minutes for the 80 GB contents of C:\

 A while ago, I used a Sparc 20 with a shoebox tape drive and DAT
 Tapes, but that had little to do with my ham radio operation. These
 were unsatisfactory because the error rate was significant. I also
 tried
 using an elderly PC as a network server at home on our LAN. That too
 was
 somewhat cumbersome. My wife is an active software developer (vide the
 OWL system from Cengage), and separately uses a version of Macrium
 onto a 1 TB external drive, but much of her work is stored on a
 corporate cloud, and hopefully backed up there as well.

 I do not have a high opinion of Windows Restore -- it is
 significantly more involved to use than is Macrium Reflect.

 An advantage (to me the most significant one) of doing a bit-image
 backup is that when it comes time to restore program files (i.e. .exe
 files, etc), one does not have to search out the distribution media
 and
 play baking cookies with those media for hours to rebuild the
 system.

 A disadvantage of doing a bit-image backup is that in the absence
 of good garbage collection one keeps using the same general
 structure
 over and over again...a case can be made for rebuilding from scratch
 (not from the bit image) on a regular basis...some have suggested
 once a
 year, at least.

 The Linux crowd can tell you of several useful Linux based
 utilities for total backup, restore, partitioning, etc...I won't
 enumerate them here, though many of them are very useful.

 In general, I don't favor running anything off the cloud. My ISP
 is sometimes down for 1 or more hours, and that mode of dis-operation
 would leave me in the cold. Moreover, in view of the spate of
 successful
 hacking attacks, I don't trust cloud security. If I disconnect from
 the
 internet, the only ways someone can hack me are via my WiFi or to
 physically break into my home. I have taken pains to barricade the
 former. The latter takes care of itself in the usual way.

 Hope this answers your questions

 John Ragle -- W1ZI

 =

 On 5/22/2012 12:59 PM, James Robbins wrote:
 John,



 Could you be more specific about your process for bit image
 backup and
 safe sectors?  Program you use?  What files you choose to
 backup?  Whether
 Windows Restore program is or is not a 

Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-22 Thread Rick Bates
It will be on the same 'bus' as the K3/KPA500, so it'll get the info that
way and adapt.  For a NON-Elecraft product, YMMV.

Trust them, how many mistakes have they made so far?  (Heck they make it
firefighter proof, which is magnitudes harder than idiot proof.)

Now shh, after their Dayton recovery nap, let's let them work so we can play
with the tuner sooner.  ;o)

Rick wa6nhc

-Original Message-
From: iain macdonnell - N6ML

But presumably you'd have to transmit some RF for the KAT500 to know
whereabouts in the band you are assuming it's using the band-data
from the ACC port... or is there an AUXBUS way for it to get
more-granular QRG data?

~iain / N6ML

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Re: [Elecraft] Bit image backup: Safe sectors

2012-05-22 Thread Brendan Minish
dd or dd_rescue copies of SSD's are fine and no problem. 
The controllers hide all the fancy wear levelling stuff from the
computer and present a disk that to the OS looks just line any other
sata hard disk. 

dd_rescue is a variant of the linux dd utility which can deal with disks
that ate not 100% healthy 
see 
http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/

you will find dd and dd_rescue along with a bunch of other useful tools
for copying partitions/disks on the knoppix distribution which is a
bootable 'live cd' or can be used from a USB stick 


http://knoppix.net/

Trinity rescue kit is supposed to be very good too 

http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?wpid=1front_id=12



On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 15:03 -0700, Jack Brindle wrote:
 John;
 
 Be very careful with a sector-by-sector backup utility if you decide  
 to use an SSD. Solid State Drives constantly are moving sector  
 locations around in order to avoid writing to the same flash location  
 too many times. This occurs whenever a file needs to be updated or  
 rewritten, and is especially true of the directory sectors. Because of  
 this a backup may catch a file relocation in mid move, or more often  
 catch a directory update while it is being moved, The result will be a  
 completely useless backup. We discovered this recently when a friend  
 needed to restore his system from a backup.
 
 The answer is to use a normal file-oriented backup instead of a sector- 
 by-sector backup. Those backups are very much useful when needed. With  
 the trend to replace disks with SSDs, especially in laptops, this will  
 become very important.
 
 For those wondering, TIme Machine is indeed a file backup and not  
 sector-by-sector. I recommend it whole heartedly!
 
 Jack Brindle, W6FB
 
 
 On May 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, John Ragle wrote:
 
  Hi, Jim...
 
  There are several programs that make literal copies (mirror  
  copies)
  of disk contents. This includes the OS and all program files as well  
  as
  data...
 
  I happen to have been using one called Macrium Reflect
  Professional for the last few years. It produces a bit-for-bit  
  literal
  image (a mirror copy) of the TOTAL contents of one or more hard  
  drives,
  and can re-load such images. It does much more than copy data files.  
  At
  present, I am using a PC with 2 inboard hard drives, each of 250 GB
  capacity. One of these is my WIN7 Ultimate OS and associated files
  (including programs, etc), and is about 80 GB in total content. The
  second is my Ubuntu 11.10 OS and a somewhat smaller collection of  
  files
  (including programs, etc.) I back up the former almost daily onto a  
  1 TB
  external USB hard drive, and somewhat less frequently onto a Sandisk  
  64
  GB stick...the 80 GB on the C:\ drive fit nicely onto the 64 GB stick
  with the compression used by Macrium. The rate-determining step in  
  these
  USB-based devices is the USB transfer rate itself; 80 GB takes about  
  25
  minutes to back or restore, and I do it last thing at night, letting
  Macrium close down the PC when finished.
 
  If I had a third drive bay, I would probably choose to back up  
  onto
  a third drive...hard drives have become so inexpensive that you can
  practically use them like floppy drives. This would be significantly
  faster, about 10-12 minutes for the 80 GB contents of C:\
 
  A while ago, I used a Sparc 20 with a shoebox tape drive and DAT
  Tapes, but that had little to do with my ham radio operation. These
  were unsatisfactory because the error rate was significant. I also  
  tried
  using an elderly PC as a network server at home on our LAN. That too  
  was
  somewhat cumbersome. My wife is an active software developer (vide the
  OWL system from Cengage), and separately uses a version of Macrium
  onto a 1 TB external drive, but much of her work is stored on a
  corporate cloud, and hopefully backed up there as well.
 
  I do not have a high opinion of Windows Restore -- it is
  significantly more involved to use than is Macrium Reflect.
 
  An advantage (to me the most significant one) of doing a bit-image
  backup is that when it comes time to restore program files (i.e. .exe
  files, etc), one does not have to search out the distribution media  
  and
  play baking cookies with those media for hours to rebuild the  
  system.
 
  A disadvantage of doing a bit-image backup is that in the absence
  of good garbage collection one keeps using the same general  
  structure
  over and over again...a case can be made for rebuilding from scratch
  (not from the bit image) on a regular basis...some have suggested  
  once a
  year, at least.
 
  The Linux crowd can tell you of several useful Linux based
  utilities for total backup, restore, partitioning, etc...I won't
  enumerate them here, though many of them are very useful.
 
  In general, I don't favor running anything off the cloud. My ISP
  is sometimes down for 1 or more hours, and that mode of 

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread alan geller
That looks a lot like an electric motor (washing machine) to me eg 
amplitude and distibution..just my experience. Better to look 
for horses instead of Zebras :-)

Alan/K6ADG
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Re: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

2012-05-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I moved my AGC values around some to check it out, and then finally put
them back where they were, because I STILL like them there.  My intercept
value was worked out when I first got my K3, which was not at the extreme.
 4.51 has not changed the AGC behavior if your previously picked AGC was
within range to start with.  For some they were at the extreme of the old
value limits and wanted more numbers.  Those folks now have something to
play with.

What I got out of 4.51 is a remarkable change in clarity and a coincident
improvement in DSP NB (no change in IF NB).  This has been explained as
using numbers with more places after the decimal in logarithm functions,
which would have removed a kind of distortion at AGC threshold.  This
distortion had already been reported as being eliminated by moving the
threshold higher, or by adding attenuation to the RF, which effectively
raises the threshold.

Many of us for other reasons had made these changes ourselves some time
ago, and simply were not affected by the complaints from others, making
this problem perversely one of those A hears it, B does not, kind of things

I note that for a long time,  it was being blamed on the hardware AGC.  If
there WAS something still left there, I don't know what it would be.  Maybe
all of us need to apologize to the hardware AGC genie in our K3.  False
accusations may have cause hard feelings and reduced mojo.

At some point after I got the K3, I quit using fast AGC at all, and set the
slow AGC to its fastest value, used that all the time  just because I
liked it better (lack of technical specificity noted :)).  Also I like
the fast AGC again (lack of technical specificity still noted).  I'm sure
it's obvious to all, the slow AGC punches high, and takes its fat time
coming back down, which puts the majority of signals under what is a
rolling threshold where only a yet stronger signal would push it higher.

So the combination of slow AGC and managing the RF input had the effect of
minimizing transaction in the area fixed by the log function improvements,
and the statement Guy just is not having this problem was both true AND
covering up the problem.   It also explains why I could never come up with
anything to ID problems reported on the reflector using steady state
signals  :)   If ever there was one, this was one of those
self-disguising problems that confounds solution.

The clarity improvements in 4.51 occur for me because, even with my coping
adjustments to AGC and RF attenuation, the **slice of time where the AGC
was moving from not invoked to set-at-value-by-signal** produced a
distortion on the signal that happens only on the edge of signals.  This
also explains why the NB DSP t1-7 and t2-7 are better than before on key
clicks (turn off IF blanking).

Way to go, guys.   This one's really a winner.

73, Guy.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Peter Chamalian w...@arrl.net wrote:

 I have not had a sufficiently large or loud pile up to test the AGC mods
 under battle conditions.  Perhaps this weekend...

 I have my AGC values all set at the default levels except AGC THR which is
 13.

 I'll be interested to hear what others are doing.

 Pete, W1RM


 -Original Message-
 From: Jack Colson [mailto:jcols...@tampabay.rr.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:19 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

 With all the comments about the upgraded or improved AGC is their a
 consensus as to starting values?  I realize that these can be tailored for
 specific situations but a default starting set would be helpful.

 Thank you in advance,
 73,
 Jack, W3TMZ

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[Elecraft] K3, etc. Question.

2012-05-22 Thread K2GN
Theoretically, using the K3_EZ utility's SWR plotter and a KAT-500 attached,
would the SWR Tune points be set for the entire selected band?

 

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com http://k2gn.com/ 

 


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Re: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

2012-05-22 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Try 10 for threshold and 10-12 for slope.

73,

Eric
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On 5/22/2012 2:18 PM, Jack Colson wrote:
 With all the comments about the upgraded or improved AGC is their a
 consensus as to starting values?  I realize that these can be tailored
 for specific situations but a default starting set would be helpful.

 Thank you in advance,
 73,
 Jack, W3TMZ
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Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread Wayne Burdick
Alan Bloom wrote:

 Microchip has been very good about continuing to make and
 support their older designs.  (Have they ever obsoleted a PIC
 processor?)

Not that I know of.

I first used a PIC MCU around 1995, in a NorCal 40A add-on (KC1 keyer/ 
counter). It was a PIC16F84, which is still stocked in several package  
styles, in the thousands each, by Digikey.

If I'm not mistaken you can still get the KC1, too--from Wilderness  
Radio.

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello John,

Thank you for your reply, and my apology for not being able to return 
sooner.

I am inclined to think that the source of these birdies is external to 
your K3, and getting into the receiver via some connecting cable(s).

The reason why the birdies are less noticeable on the sub-receiver is 
probably because it is in a shielded module, whereas the main receiver is 
open plan.  However if there any coax cables or wires entering  the sub- 
receiver's enclosure through holes in the shield, then whatever is causing 
the birdies will get into the sub- receiver.  The dimensions of the 
sub-receiver's shielded enclosure might also affect the strength of the 
sub-receiver's birdies on different bands, especially the higher frequency 
bands (the Waveguide effect).

Will look again at your screen capture, because I think that there is 
evidence that the birdies have discrete sidebands, which might help to 
identify their source.

73,

Geoff
LX2AO



On May 22, 2012 at 7:53 PM, John Bekema wrote:


 Hello Geoff!

 I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
 the birdies are a bit less.

 On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
 S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
 to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
 is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

 Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
 the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
 receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
 subreceiver. (receivers linked)

 Ideas?

 John

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[Elecraft] K3 HRD control of features

2012-05-22 Thread Bill
I have used HRD in the past with several rigs - all quite successfully. 
Now I am using it with the K3.

It seems to me that there are very few of the K3's many features that 
can be controlled via HRD. I would consider HRD version 6 for purchase - 
if it is to become K3 feature rich. I posed the question to HRD support 
and received the following: We support whatever Eric has in the cat 
commands, if it's in there, we support it.

Currently I am also testing N4PY's software for rig control. I know 
little about this software - only used it a couple times today. I have 9 
more days on the free trial.

Perhaps neither is suitable and I should continue twisting knobs. 
Comments regarding both programs would be greatly appreciated.

Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] K3 remote keypad option

2012-05-22 Thread Linda and Bob
Has anyone suggested that Wayne and Eric develope a remote keypad for the 
K3.  The keypad would be used as a direct entry band switch for each band 
from 160 through 2 meters (if 2 meter module is installed in the K3). It 
would also be nice to have a couple of buttons that could be programed for 
other functions. Perhaps it could plug in to one of jacks on the rear panel 
of the K3.

I mentioned this to someone this year at the Elecraft booth at Dayton (K8GG, 
George). He mentioned that some other K3 users may have suggested such an 
option before to Eric and Wayne. George was there to answer any questions 
about the K3 and the KX-3. I may have also mentioned this to Lyle.

Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
dlrwi...@verizon.net


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Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread Jim Lowman
Yes, Don, Windows automatic updates can be a problem, but I have all of 
the computers at home set to check for updates at 3 AM daily.
That way they won't interrupt anything that we may be doing.

I've learned quite a bit about the PIC processors from Wayne and others, 
and I thank everyone for the information.
Makes it easier to sleep at night!  :-)

73 de Jim

On 5/22/2012 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Jim,

 I don't think software updates are a problem, but Windows Automatic 
 Updates can (and do) happen at the most inconvenient times.

 I do not believe concern about obsolescence of dedicated processors is 
 any great problem.  The K3 could be re-designed with a different 
 processor to take care of repairs.
 Loading of updated firmware into a dedicated processor is a concern 
 because transmission methods tend to change from time to time - 
 consider the problem the older Flex owners have bedause Flex choose to 
 use Firewire - and I foresee USB going the same way.  I am very glad 
 to see that the K3 and KX3 have serial interfaces.  Serial ports may 
 be disappearing from consumer computers, but there are readily 
 available adapters.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3, etc. Question.

2012-05-22 Thread vk4tux
The K3_EZ swr plotter points will be of the KAT-500 input over the tested
frequency range.

I am not sure why that would be useful, unless a high swr is observed on the
k3.

What swr tune points do you mean? It is an autotuner in anycase yes?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3, etc. Question.

2012-05-22 Thread K2GN
I mean the memorized tune point so the tuner wouldn't have to tune, just
recall previous setting from memory.

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com

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The K3_EZ swr plotter points will be of the KAT-500 input over the tested
frequency range.

I am not sure why that would be useful, unless a high swr is observed on the
k3.

What swr tune points do you mean? It is an autotuner in anycase yes?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 remote keypad option

2012-05-22 Thread Bill
I would purchase a properly configured direct frequency keypad for the 
K3.  Something along the lines of what Stone Mountain Engineering used 
to make.

I am not a programmer, but I would venture that the development of such 
would not be difficult.

Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD control of features

2012-05-22 Thread goldtr8
I use HRD for my station.

I dont do much rig control except for digital modes where the macro 
function and switching and it works great.  I also like the integrated 
logger.

Otherwise I tend to turn knobs on the radio.

Just my experience.

~73
Don
KD8NNU


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Bill wrote:

 I have used HRD in the past with several rigs - all quite 
 successfully. Now I am using it with the K3.

 It seems to me that there are very few of the K3's many features that 
 can be controlled via HRD. I would consider HRD version 6 for purchase 
 - if it is to become K3 feature rich. I posed the question to HRD 
 support and received the following: We support whatever Eric has in 
 the cat commands, if it's in there, we support it.

 Currently I am also testing N4PY's software for rig control. I know 
 little about this software - only used it a couple times today. I have 
 9 more days on the free trial.

 Perhaps neither is suitable and I should continue twisting knobs. 
 Comments regarding both programs would be greatly appreciated.

 Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] SDRs and embedded processors

2012-05-22 Thread Bill K9YEQ
It is still for sale!

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-


Alan Bloom wrote:

 Microchip has been very good about continuing to make and support 
 their Not that I know of.

I first used a PIC MCU around 1995, in a NorCal 40A add-on (KC1 keyer/
counter). It was a PIC16F84, which is still stocked in several package
styles, in the thousands each, by Digikey.older designs.  (Have they ever
obsoleted a PIC
 processor?)


If I'm not mistaken you can still get the KC1, too--from Wilderness Radio.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

2012-05-22 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I'll be in the WPX CW this weekend, using the rare prefix call 
sign KZ7X.  I'm hoping for some good pileups to test things out!

I'll be using these settings:
agc dcy soft
hld 0.2
pls nor
slp 0
thr 20
f 200
s 020
af lim nor 030
front panel  agc fast
Use min preamp, max attenuator, and min rf gain to keep weak 
signals just clearly readable.

My idea behind those settings is to keep dynamic range as high as 
possible before agc even begins to actuate.

If agc compression becomes a big issue, I will try turning agc 
off, and setting rf and af gain to keep signals in the range 
where they need to be (weak signals readable, and loud signals 
below the AF Limiter).  I have a new sensitive headphone setup, 
and new sound deadening in the amplifier that may help in this 
regard.  Thanks to K3NA for this idea:
http://wiki.contesting.com/index.php/Setting_receiver_gain_controls

That's my plan, and I'm stickin' to it!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, Arizona




-Original Message- 
From: Peter Chamalian
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:48 PM
To: 'Jack Colson' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

I have not had a sufficiently large or loud pile up to test the 
AGC mods
under battle conditions.  Perhaps this weekend...

I have my AGC values all set at the default levels except AGC THR 
which is
13.

I'll be interested to hear what others are doing.

Pete, W1RM


-Original Message-
From: Jack Colson [mailto:jcols...@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Starting values for AGC with MCU 4.51 ???

With all the comments about the upgraded or improved AGC is their 
a
consensus as to starting values?  I realize that these can be 
tailored for
specific situations but a default starting set would be helpful.

Thank you in advance,
73,
Jack, W3TMZ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 remote keypad option

2012-05-22 Thread Arthur Burke
I have a similar keypad arrangement that I purchased for use with some
microHAM products. A great addition to the radio and programming.

Art - N4PJ



On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Linda and Bob dlrwi...@verizon.net wrote:

 Has anyone suggested that Wayne and Eric develope a remote keypad for the
 K3.  The keypad would be used as a direct entry band switch for each band
 from 160 through 2 meters (if 2 meter module is installed in the K3). It
 would also be nice to have a couple of buttons that could be programed for
 other functions. Perhaps it could plug in to one of jacks on the rear panel
 of the K3.

 I mentioned this to someone this year at the Elecraft booth at Dayton
 (K8GG,
 George). He mentioned that some other K3 users may have suggested such an
 option before to Eric and Wayne. George was there to answer any questions
 about the K3 and the KX-3. I may have also mentioned this to Lyle.

 Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
 dlrwi...@verizon.net


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD control of features

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

As alternatives to HRD, many are using a logging program to provide some 
element of rig control - N1MM logger is a good example, and seems to be 
more directed at contests.  DXLab Suite includes a number of rig control 
(and other information and control functions).  For Data modes, there is 
Fldigi which integrates with several logging applications or can be used 
standalone with RigCAT which provides frequency display and several 
other functions.

Just how much rig control you wish to have will dictate your choice.  
N4PY's software is quite good and can be kept up to date (with his 
update subscription plan).

I cannot speak for the level of K3 support you will see in HRD 6.0, you 
will have to ask that in th3 HRD forums.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2012 7:43 PM, Bill wrote:
 I have used HRD in the past with several rigs - all quite successfully.
 Now I am using it with the K3.

 It seems to me that there are very few of the K3's many features that
 can be controlled via HRD. I would consider HRD version 6 for purchase -
 if it is to become K3 feature rich. I posed the question to HRD support
 and received the following: We support whatever Eric has in the cat
 commands, if it's in there, we support it.

 Currently I am also testing N4PY's software for rig control. I know
 little about this software - only used it a couple times today. I have 9
 more days on the free trial.

 Perhaps neither is suitable and I should continue twisting knobs.
 Comments regarding both programs would be greatly appreciated.

 Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] KBT2 Instructions for the K2 Internal Battery

2012-05-22 Thread Keith Hamilton
The KBT2 Internal Battery Installation Instructions need to be 
updated or have a errata attached. The instructions on page 8 
refer to a S1 switch on the control board. I searched the 
archives and found out that the switch was changed to 3 pin header 
P7 after about serial number 3000 or so.

So to prevent others from this confusion the instructions need 
changed or added to.

73
Keith Hamilton N8CEP

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[Elecraft] cables for digital/dayton

2012-05-22 Thread Robert Galambos
so just came back from Dayton and found out a couple of things.

1) neither west mountain nor signallink external sound cards have cables 
for the new KX3

2) so given that i will try to set up the radio with using the internal 
IMAC stereo line in for digital But the manual is light on the set up. I 
assume that the output of the radio (read phone jack) goes into the in 
line of the mac? but i figure there is another cable needed to transmit 
the digital, i hope to create/write. so where does that cable go from  
(from mac head phone to mic of the radio?

I also have a USB cable to the ACC1 jack of the radio that should be 
able to control it (CAT commands)


any help would be appreciated

73

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Re: [Elecraft] KBT2 Instructions for the K2 Internal Battery

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Keith,

You are correct.  I will *try* to see who is owner of the document and 
see if it can be corrected.
I am glad to see that you did enough research to realize that the switch 
had been changed to a 3 pin header.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2012 9:31 PM, Keith Hamilton wrote:
 The KBT2 Internal Battery Installation Instructions need to be
 updated or have a errata attached. The instructions on page 8
 refer to a S1 switch on the control board. I searched the
 archives and found out that the switch was changed to 3 pin header
 P7 after about serial number 3000 or so.

 So to prevent others from this confusion the instructions need
 changed or added to.

 73
 Keith Hamilton N8CEP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD control of features

2012-05-22 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
I have actually seen an increase in the HRD controls for the K3 since 
the new ownership took over.  Many of the front panel functions can now 
be activated/deactivated by simply clicking buttons in the HRD rig 
control interface.  Personally, I like HRD/DM780 better than DXLabs for 
rig control and digital modes.  The log books to me are a toss-up.  Much 
of the same information, just presented in different lay-outs.  As to 
some functionality, such as label printing, that is coming in HRD v6.0 
later this summer.

I will admit, I alpha/beta tested some of the HRD 5.2x releases prior to 
some family/job situations taking over much of my time.  However, I 
think that, with time, the new ownership will improve HRD's 
compatibility interface with the K3.

Just my two cents' worth.

73,

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team


On 5/22/2012 8:22 PM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
 I use HRD for my station.

 I dont do much rig control except for digital modes where the macro
 function and switching and it works great.  I also like the integrated
 logger.

 Otherwise I tend to turn knobs on the radio.

 Just my experience.

 ~73
 Don
 KD8NNU


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Bill wrote:

 I have used HRD in the past with several rigs - all quite
 successfully. Now I am using it with the K3.

 It seems to me that there are very few of the K3's many features that
 can be controlled via HRD. I would consider HRD version 6 for purchase
 - if it is to become K3 feature rich. I posed the question to HRD
 support and received the following: We support whatever Eric has in
 the cat commands, if it's in there, we support it.

 Currently I am also testing N4PY's software for rig control. I know
 little about this software - only used it a couple times today. I have
 9 more days on the free trial.

 Perhaps neither is suitable and I should continue twisting knobs.
 Comments regarding both programs would be greatly appreciated.

 Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] I will be on vacation

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Just FYI -- if you send any email directed toward me, and I do not 
respond, do not be offended.  I am going to get on an airplane tomorrow 
and travel to Juneau, Alaska to visit with family and do some fishing.  
We will not be back until the afternoon on May 31.  I am not taking the 
laptop, so this will be a vacation from email as well as a general vacation.

Anyway, I will be in-incommunicado until June 1 -- it will be 
interesting to see what email has passed during my absence - give me 
until noon EDST to respond to any questions, and I plan a lot of 
exercise for the delete key.

73,
Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] cables for digital/dayton

2012-05-22 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
I just use an unterminated SignaLink cable ( half an Ethernet jumper) 
and put on the right connectors that I purchased on-line.

I also used an iMic with a couple jumper cables of the right 
terminations but got funny noise so that is what led me to the SignaLink 
since I had one. Got the isolation I needed and works fine. 73

I did not connect the PTT inside the SignaLink, or rather I have a added 
in switch to connect or disconnect that line. I use the USB to KX3 
control cable with flrig to control the KX3 using the K3 setting.

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/22/2012 9:44 PM, Robert Galambos wrote:
 so just came back from Dayton and found out a couple of things.

 1) neither west mountain nor signallink external sound cards have cables
 for the new KX3

 2) so given that i will try to set up the radio with using the internal
 IMAC stereo line in for digital But the manual is light on the set up. I
 assume that the output of the radio (read phone jack) goes into the in
 line of the mac? but i figure there is another cable needed to transmit
 the digital, i hope to create/write. so where does that cable go from
 (from mac head phone to mic of the radio?

 I also have a USB cable to the ACC1 jack of the radio that should be
 able to control it (CAT commands)


 any help would be appreciated

 73

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 cables for digital/dayton

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Womble
An email this week from Tigertronics said KX3 cables should be available by 
mid June.

Paul K4FB

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Re: [Elecraft] cables for digital/dayton

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Robert,

The USB cable to ACC1 will indeed provide you with CAT control of the KX3.

I do not understand IMAC stereo line in - I only discuss in acronyms 
that are defined in the KX3 manual, and IMAC is not one of them.

Yes, you will have to build your own cables.  There may be KX3 specific 
cables offered further down the road, but that is not today's situation. 
  A cable from the interface audio output to the KX3 microphone input 
and a cable from the KX3 headphone output to the interface Audio input 
should be all that is required.  If you have a cable from the computer 
usb or serial port, that cable can provide keying of the KX3, but 
without that cable, VOX is a viable solution, so use it unless you have 
other considerations.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2012 9:44 PM, Robert Galambos wrote:
 so just came back from Dayton and found out a couple of things.

 1) neither west mountain nor signallink external sound cards have cables
 for the new KX3

 2) so given that i will try to set up the radio with using the internal
 IMAC stereo line in for digital But the manual is light on the set up. I
 assume that the output of the radio (read phone jack) goes into the in
 line of the mac? but i figure there is another cable needed to transmit
 the digital, i hope to create/write. so where does that cable go from
 (from mac head phone to mic of the radio?

 I also have a USB cable to the ACC1 jack of the radio that should be
 able to control it (CAT commands)


 any help would be appreciated

 73

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Re: [Elecraft] cables for digital/dayton

2012-05-22 Thread Robert Galambos


Sorry

I have an Apple IMAC running fusion win 7 64 bit



On 12-05-22 10:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Robert,

 The USB cable to ACC1 will indeed provide you with CAT control of the 
 KX3.

 I do not understand IMAC stereo line in - I only discuss in acronyms 
 that are defined in the KX3 manual, and IMAC is not one of them.

 Yes, you will have to build your own cables.  There may be KX3 
 specific cables offered further down the road, but that is not today's 
 situation.  A cable from the interface audio output to the KX3 
 microphone input and a cable from the KX3 headphone output to the 
 interface Audio input should be all that is required.  If you have a 
 cable from the computer usb or serial port, that cable can provide 
 keying of the KX3, but without that cable, VOX is a viable solution, 
 so use it unless you have other considerations.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 5/22/2012 9:44 PM, Robert Galambos wrote:
 so just came back from Dayton and found out a couple of things.

 1) neither west mountain nor signallink external sound cards have cables
 for the new KX3

 2) so given that i will try to set up the radio with using the internal
 IMAC stereo line in for digital But the manual is light on the set up. I
 assume that the output of the radio (read phone jack) goes into the in
 line of the mac? but i figure there is another cable needed to transmit
 the digital, i hope to create/write. so where does that cable go from
 (from mac head phone to mic of the radio?

 I also have a USB cable to the ACC1 jack of the radio that should be
 able to control it (CAT commands)


 any help would be appreciated

 73

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Re: [Elecraft] KBT2 Instructions for the K2 Internal Battery

2012-05-22 Thread Tom McCulloch
That switch!!

That switch has caused more problems that it was worth -- it seemed that 
every time I would take the cover off of my K2, for whatever reason, and 
then replace it, I'd turn on the rig and get the infamous Lo batt 
message because my fat fingers accidentally pushed That Switch to the 
wrong position.  Off came the cover, the switch was set properly, back 
on went the cover and everything was fine --- until the next time.

Glad to see it's gone...hi  (althiugh as Keith points out, even though 
it's gone, it's still causing problems...hi)

(what was it for, anyway?
Tom, WB2QDG

K2 # 1103

On 5/22/2012 9:31 PM, Keith Hamilton wrote:
 The KBT2 Internal Battery Installation Instructions need to be
 updated or have a errata attached. The instructions on page 8
 refer to a S1 switch on the control board. I searched the
 archives and found out that the switch was changed to 3 pin header
 P7 after about serial number 3000 or so.

 So to prevent others from this confusion the instructions need
 changed or added to.

 73
 Keith Hamilton N8CEP

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Re: [Elecraft] I will be on vacation

2012-05-22 Thread Gary Gregory
*Don,

Enjoy the vacation and I like my Salmon lightly cooked, juicy and tender.

Oh, and leave some for me!

regards,
Gary
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 Just FYI -- if you send any email directed toward me, and I do not
 respond, do not be offended.  I am going to get on an airplane tomorrow
 and travel to Juneau, Alaska to visit with family and do some fishing.
 We will not be back until the afternoon on May 31.  I am not taking the
 laptop, so this will be a vacation from email as well as a general
 vacation.

 Anyway, I will be in-incommunicado until June 1 -- it will be
 interesting to see what email has passed during my absence - give me
 until noon EDST to respond to any questions, and I plan a lot of
 exercise for the delete key.

 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] I will be on vacation

2012-05-22 Thread Gerald Manthey
Gary, maybe Don will get us some smoked salmon. Had some up there and it
was great.
Don enjoy the family and fishing. Oh pan for some gold too.
 On May 22, 2012 9:54 PM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Don,

 Enjoy the vacation and I like my Salmon lightly cooked, juicy and tender.

 Oh, and leave some for me!

 regards,
 Gary
 *
 On 23 May 2012 12:15, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

  Just FYI -- if you send any email directed toward me, and I do not
  respond, do not be offended.  I am going to get on an airplane tomorrow
  and travel to Juneau, Alaska to visit with family and do some fishing.
  We will not be back until the afternoon on May 31.  I am not taking the
  laptop, so this will be a vacation from email as well as a general
  vacation.
 
  Anyway, I will be in-incommunicado until June 1 -- it will be
  interesting to see what email has passed during my absence - give me
  until noon EDST to respond to any questions, and I plan a lot of
  exercise for the delete key.
 
  73,
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[Elecraft] I am so over the KX3 list for shipping

2012-05-22 Thread ATT Yahoo

What's the point of posting order numbers which don't change for weeks when it 
talks about shipping in the next 7 days.  What a crock. Its been 6 months since 
it was ordered and there's  no chance of seeing the radio for several more 
months at the rate they are being shipped. 

Simply a travesty and What a waste of time. 
 
Tell the people who ordered your projected ship times based on # units shipped 
per day would be meaningful. We could come back In 6 months and maybe see 
progress.

This order number range is garbage. 

IMHO

John K3GO

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Re: [Elecraft] KBT2 Instructions for the K2 Internal Battery

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
That Switch!!!

Well, that switch had good intentions for those who did not have a DMM 
and had trouble with their K2 that measuring the DC voltages might 
provide some clue to the problem.

With the switch in the EXT position, the K2 would display the voltage 
applied to the probe described in page 44 of the manual - no DMM required.

Most K2 builders/owners do have access to a DMM, so this capability is 
not often used.

Keep the switch on the INT position, or replace the switch with the 3 
pin header and a jumper.  The KBT2 instructions are being addressed 
separately.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2012 10:52 PM, Tom McCulloch wrote:
 That switch!!

 That switch has caused more problems that it was worth -- it seemed that
 every time I would take the cover off of my K2, for whatever reason, and
 then replace it, I'd turn on the rig and get the infamous Lo batt
 message because my fat fingers accidentally pushed That Switch to the
 wrong position.  Off came the cover, the switch was set properly, back
 on went the cover and everything was fine --- until the next time.

 Glad to see it's gone...hi  (althiugh as Keith points out, even though
 it's gone, it's still causing problems...hi)

 (what was it for, anyway?
 Tom, WB2QDG

 K2 # 1103

 On 5/22/2012 9:31 PM, Keith Hamilton wrote:
 The KBT2 Internal Battery Installation Instructions need to be
 updated or have a errata attached. The instructions on page 8
 refer to a S1 switch on the control board. I searched the
 archives and found out that the switch was changed to 3 pin header
 P7 after about serial number 3000 or so.

 So to prevent others from this confusion the instructions need
 changed or added to.

 73
 Keith Hamilton N8CEP

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[Elecraft] I am so over the KX3 list for shipping

2012-05-22 Thread Don Putnick
Don's rule for buying new ham radio products: don't buy it until QST reviews 
it. The bugs will have been shaken out and the waiting list will have 
disappeared. Just bought my KPA-500 in fact. 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] I am so over the KX3 list for shipping

2012-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Don,

Great advice, but you are missing out on a lot of the fun from the early 
adopters.  You may not want to join in on the array of those who buy 
early, but take heart that Elecraft does provide fixes for the problems 
that are identified by the early adopters, so do not be afraid to join 
in with the latest and greatest.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2012 11:30 PM, Don Putnick wrote:
 Don's rule for buying new ham radio products: don't buy it until QST reviews 
 it. The bugs will have been shaken out and the waiting list will have 
 disappeared. Just bought my KPA-500 in fact. 73 Don NA6Z

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Re: [Elecraft] I am so over the KX3 list for shipping

2012-05-22 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I have no issues being 1st in line with Elecraft.  Sure they might have 
an issue here or there but they stand behind their products.  I had an 
early FT-DX9000 and I couldn't give it back to them fast enough.  They 
even screwed me on the shipping.  Everyone of the 9000's had to go back 
to Yaesu to get FIXED.   Elecraft will just send parts, boards etc.

By the way someone has to find the issues and that is not always the 
beta testers.

I have two K3's, P3, KPA-500 and the KAT-500 on order.

Elecraft does not ship products that are not ready and are not pressured 
to ship prior to having all the bugs worked out.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com
Http://www.w0mu.com


On 5/22/2012 9:40 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Don,

 Great advice, but you are missing out on a lot of the fun from the early
 adopters.  You may not want to join in on the array of those who buy
 early, but take heart that Elecraft does provide fixes for the problems
 that are identified by the early adopters, so do not be afraid to join
 in with the latest and greatest.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 5/22/2012 11:30 PM, Don Putnick wrote:
 Don's rule for buying new ham radio products: don't buy it until QST reviews 
 it. The bugs will have been shaken out and the waiting list will have 
 disappeared. Just bought my KPA-500 in fact. 73 Don NA6Z

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[Elecraft] Windows4P3 Remote Edition

2012-05-22 Thread tomb18
I have now got a working version of Windows4P3 that allows displaying the
video and controlling the P3 via the internet.  The performance is
acceptable with configurable bandwidth.  You can read about it here:
http://va2fsq.com/?page_id=130
I will be looking for beta testers but of course you will need a video
capture board connected to your SVGA P3 adapter.
73's VA2FSQ

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[Elecraft] Early oderers

2012-05-22 Thread Gary Gregory
*patience is a virtue...found in a woman, seldom in a man..

'Author Unknown'

Gary
I'm in charge, my wife told me.

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Re: [Elecraft] I am so over the KX3 list for shipping

2012-05-22 Thread Keith Heimbold
It is a bit depressing for me having to travel with the super large FT450AT 
with its crappy auto tuner and pretty lame receiver.  If my K3 is any 
indication of what I am waiting on with the KX3 it will be well worth the wait. 
 However, I do wish there was transparency in terms of when i could expect my 
Dec 31st order.

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On May 22, 2012, at 8:11 PM, ATT Yahoo k...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 
 What's the point of posting order numbers which don't change for weeks when 
 it talks about shipping in the next 7 days.  What a crock. Its been 6 months 
 since it was ordered and there's  no chance of seeing the radio for several 
 more months at the rate they are being shipped. 
 
 Simply a travesty and What a waste of time. 
 
 Tell the people who ordered your projected ship times based on # units 
 shipped per day would be meaningful. We could come back In 6 months and maybe 
 see progress.
 
 This order number range is garbage. 
 
 IMHO
 
 John K3GO
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet

2012-05-22 Thread tomb18
The epiphzn does not do a very good job getting the svga from the p3 to the
displzy.  Low fps as well s dropped frames.  On the other hand, if you have
a PC with a spare PCIex4slot, the Avermedia HD will capture the P3 display
flawlessly. It also comes with a tutorial on how to stream his video via
flash to a web page.  You can also check out Windows4P3Remote which has a
good description of the process.
73's, VA2FSQ, Tom

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Re: [Elecraft] I am so over the KX3 list for shipping

2012-05-22 Thread Gary Gregory
*Soon?

:-)

Gary
*
On 23 May 2012 14:31, Keith Heimbold ag...@hotmail.com wrote:

 It is a bit depressing for me having to travel with the super large
 FT450AT with its crappy auto tuner and pretty lame receiver.  If my K3 is
 any indication of what I am waiting on with the KX3 it will be well worth
 the wait.  However, I do wish there was transparency in terms of when i
 could expect my Dec 31st order.

 Keith
 AG6AZ

 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

 On May 22, 2012, at 8:11 PM, ATT Yahoo k...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 
  What's the point of posting order numbers which don't change for weeks
 when it talks about shipping in the next 7 days.  What a crock. Its been 6
 months since it was ordered and there's  no chance of seeing the radio for
 several more months at the rate they are being shipped.
 
  Simply a travesty and What a waste of time.
 
  Tell the people who ordered your projected ship times based on # units
 shipped per day would be meaningful. We could come back In 6 months and
 maybe see progress.
 
  This order number range is garbage.
 
  IMHO
 
  John K3GO
 
  Sent from my iPad
  John Smith
 
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