[Elecraft] K3: FT4 & RTTY Output Power
When I change modes from FT4 (Data A) to RTTY (AFSK A), I am only able to get around 0.2w output in RTTY. I have to recycle the K3 power, to get full power (100w) in RTTY. Any idea what is causing this, and if there is a fix other than a K3 power recycle? Both modes use the same audio settings, and are keyed via VOX. I don't see the power problem when going from RTTY to FT4. - John, N0TA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 won't RTTY
Hello. My K3 won't RTTY on WARC bands. Using WinTest + MTTY All other bands are OK. But WARC no. K3 going into TX mode but no any RTTY sound. Is it K3 setting or WinTest+MTTY problem? 73! Andy LY7Z Siųsta iš „Samsung Mobile“ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY Problems
Ralph, I normally use MMTTY, with DXLabs. That is not the problem, the Mark output of the radio is at ~200hz, NOT 2Khz as normal, and can not tell if the space is there or not, due to the super low frequency offset from the dial frequency. I'm setup for SO2V operation with Writelog, that also has the problem. I did check for port conflicts and did not find any. Thanks for the suggestions! Gordon - N1MGO On 11/09/2015 08:47 AM, Ralph McClintock wrote: Gordon, How are you generating FSK and are you using MMTTY? It sounds like you are getting PTT but not FSK out of the serial port. There may have been a conflict pop up in your PC for that serial port. I have had the exact problem using MMTTY through MH Digi Keyer & Digi Keyer II. Ralph W1ZK -- Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY Problems
Hi All,
This weekend my K3 stopped working with FSK. AFSK works just
fine. I have ran many RTTY contests with the K3 in FSK mode, using
various software drivers. The problem is I get a single tone, but at
the wrong frequency, Its about 200hz, not 2125Hz. I checked the pitch
setting, its still setup for High tones, the radio keys just fine, I
have not checked the fsk input signal, but even if that was bad and not
toggling I should still have an output at the Mark frequency, not way
low at ~200hz.
I reloaded firmware, - no change. The K3 is a mid 5000 serial number
and has worked flawless for many years of RTTY contests.
This one has me baffled, any suggestions? (I switched to AFSK
setup for now).
Gordon - N1MGO ("Bambi" on RTTY)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY Problems
If you are using MMTTY make sure that you have the "EXTFSK" patch set up in both the TX setup window and the Misc window. I get tripped up on this every once in a while. If these settings are correct you probably have a physical problem with the FSK keying lead between the interface and the K3. You can check the radio by grounding pin 1 of the ACC (DB15) connector. The tone will shift when grounded. Good luck Ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY Problems
Gordon, It's not clear what you mean. The mark output from the radio is at RF, not at either 2 kHz or 200 Hz. Do you mean the audio monitor tone you hear from the K3, or are you monitoring in some other way? In FSK D (and also in AFSK A), the K3's dial displays the actual Mark frequency as transmitted. If you are monitoring via an external receiver, the two RTTY frequencies should be at the K3's dial frequency (mark) and at a frequency 170 Hz lower (space). The audio monitor tone from the K3 should be at the K3's Pitch setting. If it isn't, that would seem to point to something odd in the monitor, which does not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with the actual transmitted RF. 73, Rich VE3KI N1MGO wrote: I normally use MMTTY, with DXLabs. That is not the problem, the Mark output of the radio is at ~200hz, NOT 2Khz as normal, and can not tell if the space is there or not, due to the super low frequency offset from the dial frequency. I'm setup for SO2V operation with Writelog, that also has the problem. I did check for port conflicts and did not find any. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY Problems
Rich, Sorry, I am going by the monitor tone. I need to check the actual rf on another radio and see if the Mark is really at 200hz offset or at 2.1Khz like it should be ( I use high tones from mmtty or 2tone) the AFSK A is working normal. I did not hear any shift using FSK D. I normally use FSK D, and the "pitch" setting was still correct, is there another setting that affects the pitch? Gordon - N1MGO On 11/09/2015 11:29 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: Gordon, It's not clear what you mean. The mark output from the radio is at RF, not at either 2 kHz or 200 Hz. Do you mean the audio monitor tone you hear from the K3, or are you monitoring in some other way? In FSK D (and also in AFSK A), the K3's dial displays the actual Mark frequency as transmitted. If you are monitoring via an external receiver, the two RTTY frequencies should be at the K3's dial frequency (mark) and at a frequency 170 Hz lower (space). The audio monitor tone from the K3 should be at the K3's Pitch setting. If it isn't, that would seem to point to something odd in the monitor, which does not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with the actual transmitted RF. 73, Rich VE3KI N1MGO wrote: I normally use MMTTY, with DXLabs. That is not the problem, the Mark output of the radio is at ~200hz, NOT 2Khz as normal, and can not tell if the space is there or not, due to the super low frequency offset from the dial frequency. I'm setup for SO2V operation with Writelog, that also has the problem. I did check for port conflicts and did not find any. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gordon.lapo...@gmail.com -- Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY Problems
Rich, and others on the list, Thanks for all of the suggestions. I got the system working. The problem was the pitch setting. While in FSK D If you hold the Pitch button the K3 shows the current pitch, (2125-170) is what was showing. I changed it to low tones (915-170) and back to 2125. That fixed it! I now have working FSK-D mode again. I'm not sure what was going on, but the pitch was at some value of ~200hz, not 2125. Resetting the pitch fixed it. So for future reference, don't believe the display, change it and then set it back to what you want!! I was hearing a tone of about 200 hz when going into tx, but was hearing the 2125 when I pressed the Pitch button. Now I hear a tone of 2125 and diddles when I use the software to send something. Thanks to all for the suggestions, Gordon - N1MGO On 11/9/2015 3:28 PM, Richard Ferch wrote: Just a thought - is there any chance your K3 is not in FSK D, but in some other Data sub-mode? When I put my K3 into FSK D and press the XMIT button, I hear a sidetone in my headphones that is identical to the tone I hear when I press the PITCH button. (That's assuming I don't have the K3's MON level set to zero.) The pitch of the sidetone is affected by the PITCH setting, but nothing else I adjust, including filter settings and XIT/RIT, seems to have any effect on it. In PSK D, the sidetone is a PSK idle signal at 1000 Hz. In AFSK A and DATA A, there is no sidetone unless there is audio getting into the radio (e.g. from the Line In connector). It has been years since I used FSK. I switched to AFSK soon after I got my K3, as soon as I realized that the K3's transmitted signal was cleaner in AFSK than in FSK. However, back when I did use FSK, when there was a keying input connected to the ACC connector sending diddles to the radio I heard diddles in the monitor, the same as I would in AFSK where the input to the radio actually is a diddling audio tone. If you are hearing a 200 Hz tone (lower pitched than even the lowest possible CW sidetone) with the radio transmitting in FSK D, there is something very peculiar going on; that's not the way it is supposed to work. If you are hearing a steady tone in the monitor at the Pitch frequency with no diddling, then either the software is not generating a keying output (MMTTY set up for AFSK instead of FSK, for example), or the connection to the ACC connector is broken. You can use the K3 Utility to check some of this. Start the Utility up, choose the Terminal tab, select RTTY, put the K3 into FSK D, type something into the lower pane near the bottom of the window, press Ctrl+T or click on the Transmit button, and you should hear something that is mostly at 2295 Hz (the space tone), with diddles and text characters causing it to diddle back to 2125 Hz (the Pitch setting). If that works, then the problem is likely somewhere outside the area that the Utility tests. You can test for a problem in the K3's internal wiring to the ACC connector by shorting pin 1 to pin 5 on the ACC connector to see if that causes the sidetone to shift frequency. If that works properly but you are not getting the same frequency shift when you try to use your RTTY software, then the problem is upstream - in your cable or in the configuration of the software you are using for FSK. 73, Rich VE3KI On 2015-11-09 12:05 PM, Gordon LaPoint wrote: Rich, Sorry, I am going by the monitor tone. I need to check the actual rf on another radio and see if the Mark is really at 200hz offset or at 2.1Khz like it should be ( I use high tones from mmtty or 2tone) the AFSK A is working normal. I did not hear any shift using FSK D. I normally use FSK D, and the "pitch" setting was still correct, is there another setting that affects the pitch? Gordon - N1MGO On 11/09/2015 11:29 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: Gordon, It's not clear what you mean. The mark output from the radio is at RF, not at either 2 kHz or 200 Hz. Do you mean the audio monitor tone you hear from the K3, or are you monitoring in some other way? In FSK D (and also in AFSK A), the K3's dial displays the actual Mark frequency as transmitted. If you are monitoring via an external receiver, the two RTTY frequencies should be at the K3's dial frequency (mark) and at a frequency 170 Hz lower (space). The audio monitor tone from the K3 should be at the K3's Pitch setting. If it isn't, that would seem to point to something odd in the monitor, which does not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with the actual transmitted RF. 73, Rich VE3KI N1MGO wrote: I normally use MMTTY, with DXLabs. That is not the problem, the Mark output of the radio is at ~200hz, NOT 2Khz as normal, and can not tell if the space is there or not, due to the super low frequency offset from the dial frequency. I'm setup for SO2V operation with Writelog, that also has the problem. I did check for port conflicts and did not find any.
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
On 2015-01-30 6:29 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: U ... I've never understood the infatuation with FSK over AFSK, especially for someone just trying RTTY out for the first time. If the sound card produces clean audio [pure sine wave sans noise], and most newer ones do these days, the result at RF is essentially the same, with less equipment. That *ASS-U-MEs* that the person hooking up and configuring the AFSK knows what they are doing. Given the number to particularly gross AFSK signals on the air today, that assumption is not a good one. The manufacturer of one inexpensive amateur sound interface even instructs its users to run the Windows sliders at maximum (it needs that because its internal VOX is not sensitive enough otherwise) but that drives the poorly filtered and unregulated DAC into distortion. Couple that with improper grounding and overdriving mic preamps in many rigs and you have a recipe for garbage - before even considering all the windows noises, streaming audio, and open mic stuff that gets on the air ... none of which happen with FSK. While it may be true that a proper AFSK signal is cleaner than FSK in many rigs (the K3 FSK is exceptionally clean - as clean as the filtered AFSK), it takes very little to make AFSK absolute garbage - most users can't mess up FSK any more than the manufacturer's design. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-01-30 6:29 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: U ... I've never understood the infatuation with FSK over AFSK, especially for someone just trying RTTY out for the first time. If the sound card produces clean audio [pure sine wave sans noise], and most newer ones do these days, the result at RF is essentially the same, with less equipment. The K3 also has a shaping filter when running AFSK that makes AFSK cleaner than FSK, or so I've read. My radio laptop is a fairly new [1 yr] quad-core Acer running Windows 7. On the spectrum analyzer, any undesirable products other than the single tones are lost in the minuscule noise on the baseline. There can be other reasons for running FSK with the extra interface equipment which usually offers other features beside FSK, but for someone just trying out RTTY, less is definitely more. There is a steady stream of traffic on this list from people trying to get MicroHam, SignalLink, or other interfaces working, so it's definitely not a piece of cake. MMTTY is tough enough for a newbie. The K3 does have a potential gotcha which is easy to avoid if you know about it. The RF Power is controlled by a closed-loop ALC system. The power knob sets the requested power, the loop then adjusts the drive to make that power. Consequently, you cannot adjust the output power with the MIC/LINE IN front panel gain control. Adjust the MIC/LINE IN control for 4 solid ALC bars with the 5th just flickering when sending idles [diddles]. Then set the desired power with the PWR knob. There's almost no conversational RTTY anymore, it's pretty much all contesting. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 1/29/2015 5:15 PM, RIchard Williams wrote: Though AFSK will work, I think you will be a lot happier with using FSK. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: U ... I've never understood the infatuation with FSK over AFSK For those who believe that FSK has some advantage over AFSK for purity signal or some other reason, K0SM has posted a detailed web page showing the spectra of signals generated by both, using various transmitter adjustments. Check it out at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3rtty/k3rtty.html This page has many virtues. It shows how to do a nice job of research and how to document it for the reader; it offers useful info about setting up your RTTY station; and it provides hard data, which is a lot better than relying on conventional wisdom. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
This page has many virtues. It shows how to do a nice job of research and how to document it for the reader; it offers useful info about setting up your RTTY station; and it provides hard data, which is a lot better than relying on conventional wisdom. Unfortunately, K0SM's paper has flaws in its premise that render the conclusions hardly persuasive. 1) the FSK measurements were made with the *original* K3 FSK generator not the most recent shaped FSK. Even though the original K3 FSK was better than most, the current DSP implementation is much better and provides FSK indistinguishable from the filtered AFSK. 2) the AFSK measurements were made using Line In and did not include effects common to overdriving the microphone preamp as happens in many rigs. 3) in the K3, AFSK_A disables mic compression and RF clipping. That is not the case in other transceivers operated in SSB mode. The mic compression and RF clipping is one source of AFSK distortion and harmonic generation. 4) the AFSK measurements were made with the K3's AFSK TX filter in line. That filter removes substantially all the hum and distortion present in other transceivers when the ground (audio) return is open, the sound card DAC is driven into the distortion producing range (typical at output levels greater than 60%), and/or the mic preamp is being overdriven. Andy's tests with all knobs full bore proved that the K3 is capable of cleaning up signals that would be a disaster with many other rigs. 5) The K3 does not use a closed loop ALC which generates overshoot and pumping distortion. Again, these effects are common on other manufacturer's transceivers and are often responsible for a high preponderance of the clicks in both FSK and AFSK signals from those transceivers. I have off the air spectrum captures of W1AW with their top of the line Icom rigs and professional operators that show *all* of the issues of overdrive, loss of signal return and ALC effects even when driven by supposedly clean AFSK signals from fldigi. Again, AFSK requires far more operator attention to signal hygiene than does FSK if the result is to be acceptable (that is, unless one is using a K3). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-01-30 9:34 PM, Tony Estep wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: U ... I've never understood the infatuation with FSK over AFSK For those who believe that FSK has some advantage over AFSK for purity signal or some other reason, K0SM has posted a detailed web page showing the spectra of signals generated by both, using various transmitter adjustments. Check it out at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3rtty/k3rtty.html This page has many virtues. It shows how to do a nice job of research and how to document it for the reader; it offers useful info about setting up your RTTY station; and it provides hard data, which is a lot better than relying on conventional wisdom. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
Items, questions, and requests do tend to morph on this list. While I don't disagree with your reply, please keep in mind ... the original request was from someone who wanted to try RTTY for the first time, and that's where my reply was directed. I wanted to make it as easy as possible for him, and unquestionably, two steero cables and AFSK is that. With a K3, that will work, and won't clobber folks near him He may choose other methods or indeed modes, all he seemed to want was initial advice. You're not wrong, you rarely if ever are, but the information may be misplaced in this case. He just wanted to get started. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 1/30/2015 7:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: This page has many virtues. It shows how to do a nice job of research and how to document it for the reader; it offers useful info about setting up your RTTY station; and it provides hard data, which is a lot better than relying on conventional wisdom. Unfortunately, K0SM's paper has flaws in its premise that render the conclusions hardly persuasive. 1) the FSK measurements were made with the *original* K3 FSK generator not the most recent shaped FSK. Even though the original K3 FSK was better than most, the current DSP implementation is much better and provides FSK indistinguishable from the filtered AFSK. 2) the AFSK measurements were made using Line In and did not include effects common to overdriving the microphone preamp as happens in many rigs. 3) in the K3, AFSK_A disables mic compression and RF clipping. That is not the case in other transceivers operated in SSB mode. The mic compression and RF clipping is one source of AFSK distortion and harmonic generation. 4) the AFSK measurements were made with the K3's AFSK TX filter in line. That filter removes substantially all the hum and distortion present in other transceivers when the ground (audio) return is open, the sound card DAC is driven into the distortion producing range (typical at output levels greater than 60%), and/or the mic preamp is being overdriven. Andy's tests with all knobs full bore proved that the K3 is capable of cleaning up signals that would be a disaster with many other rigs. 5) The K3 does not use a closed loop ALC which generates overshoot and pumping distortion. Again, these effects are common on other manufacturer's transceivers and are often responsible for a high preponderance of the clicks in both FSK and AFSK signals from those transceivers. I have off the air spectrum captures of W1AW with their top of the line Icom rigs and professional operators that show *all* of the issues of overdrive, loss of signal return and ALC effects even when driven by supposedly clean AFSK signals from fldigi. Again, AFSK requires far more operator attention to signal hygiene than does FSK if the result is to be acceptable (that is, unless one is using a K3). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-01-30 9:34 PM, Tony Estep wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: U ... I've never understood the infatuation with FSK over AFSK For those who believe that FSK has some advantage over AFSK for purity signal or some other reason, K0SM has posted a detailed web page showing the spectra of signals generated by both, using various transmitter adjustments. Check it out at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3rtty/k3rtty.html This page has many virtues. It shows how to do a nice job of research and how to document it for the reader; it offers useful info about setting up your RTTY station; and it provides hard data, which is a lot better than relying on conventional wisdom. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6...@foothill.net - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4273/9027 - Release Date: 01/30/15 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
Well, since the subject is K3 and RTTY, isn't it fairly safe to assume that a K3 would be in this picture? If so, then AFSK is, IMHO, the simplest method and you agree that it is acceptable. Wes N7WS On 1/30/2015 8:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: This page has many virtues. It shows how to do a nice job of research and how to document it for the reader; it offers useful info about setting up your RTTY station; and it provides hard data, which is a lot better than relying on conventional wisdom. Unfortunately, K0SM's paper has flaws in its premise that render the conclusions hardly persuasive. 1) the FSK measurements were made with the *original* K3 FSK generator not the most recent shaped FSK. Even though the original K3 FSK was better than most, the current DSP implementation is much better and provides FSK indistinguishable from the filtered AFSK. 2) the AFSK measurements were made using Line In and did not include effects common to overdriving the microphone preamp as happens in many rigs. 3) in the K3, AFSK_A disables mic compression and RF clipping. That is not the case in other transceivers operated in SSB mode. The mic compression and RF clipping is one source of AFSK distortion and harmonic generation. 4) the AFSK measurements were made with the K3's AFSK TX filter in line. That filter removes substantially all the hum and distortion present in other transceivers when the ground (audio) return is open, the sound card DAC is driven into the distortion producing range (typical at output levels greater than 60%), and/or the mic preamp is being overdriven. Andy's tests with all knobs full bore proved that the K3 is capable of cleaning up signals that would be a disaster with many other rigs. 5) The K3 does not use a closed loop ALC which generates overshoot and pumping distortion. Again, these effects are common on other manufacturer's transceivers and are often responsible for a high preponderance of the clicks in both FSK and AFSK signals from those transceivers. I have off the air spectrum captures of W1AW with their top of the line Icom rigs and professional operators that show *all* of the issues of overdrive, loss of signal return and ALC effects even when driven by supposedly clean AFSK signals from fldigi. Again, AFSK requires far more operator attention to signal hygiene than does FSK if the result is to be acceptable (that is, unless one is using a K3). 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
U ... I've never understood the infatuation with FSK over AFSK, especially for someone just trying RTTY out for the first time. If the sound card produces clean audio [pure sine wave sans noise], and most newer ones do these days, the result at RF is essentially the same, with less equipment. The K3 also has a shaping filter when running AFSK that makes AFSK cleaner than FSK, or so I've read. My radio laptop is a fairly new [1 yr] quad-core Acer running Windows 7. On the spectrum analyzer, any undesirable products other than the single tones are lost in the minuscule noise on the baseline. There can be other reasons for running FSK with the extra interface equipment which usually offers other features beside FSK, but for someone just trying out RTTY, less is definitely more. There is a steady stream of traffic on this list from people trying to get MicroHam, SignalLink, or other interfaces working, so it's definitely not a piece of cake. MMTTY is tough enough for a newbie. The K3 does have a potential gotcha which is easy to avoid if you know about it. The RF Power is controlled by a closed-loop ALC system. The power knob sets the requested power, the loop then adjusts the drive to make that power. Consequently, you cannot adjust the output power with the MIC/LINE IN front panel gain control. Adjust the MIC/LINE IN control for 4 solid ALC bars with the 5th just flickering when sending idles [diddles]. Then set the desired power with the PWR knob. There's almost no conversational RTTY anymore, it's pretty much all contesting. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 1/29/2015 5:15 PM, RIchard Williams wrote: Though AFSK will work, I think you will be a lot happier with using FSK. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
Here is a good document that I found online that I used for reference when I was setting up that will help it describes using N1MM and the K3 and has a good section on using MMTTY and AFSK http://www.n3me.net follow the howto link and select N1MM software - control radio and log contests via computer and Elecraft K3 if you are willing to build the interface you can also use FSK I plan to have this built soon. but I am using AFSK just fine for now FSK just makes things a little easier as you do not have to worry about audio levels etc. http://n6mw.jimdo.com/k3-project/ I would however suggest that if you are using AFSK that you consider a good external sound card like the Tascam card often discussed on this list as the internal soundcard in most laptop including dell tendto be noisy I hope you have luck with it and if so perhaps we will meet in the CQ WPX RTTY. David Moes VE3DVY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
I would like to start RTTY operations and I really don't know where to begin to accomplish this task. I have a K3/100 with a P3 and a Dell laptop that runs Windows 7 professional. Also use N1MM when contesting Any directions would be helpful. Thanks KC5WA -- Confirmed Countries 222 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY
The easiest way is to go AFSK. It will take two stereo cables from RS or wherever. Laptop LINE OUT goes to K3 LINE IN, K3 LINE OUT goes to laptop LINE IN. If the laptop doesn't have a LINE IN, use the MIC jack. K3 line out level is in a CONFIG: setting. When LINE IN is selected in the menu the MIC gain becomes LINE IN gain. Be sure and select only line in, there is an option which leaves your mic hot too. N1MM has a digital window in the Windows menu. It has a RTTY TU but it's not the best, most folks use MMTTY or 2TONE add-ons. MMTTY is free, just download it. I think you also have to tell N1MM where MMTTY is on your computer. MMTTY is fairly complex and has lots of configuration abilities. It will work very well pretty much out of the box however. You will need to select the tone frequency in the K3 with the PITCH control. I think there are 4 choices, I recommend 915 Hz, it's a lot easier on your ears. You need to set that same tone freq in MMTTY. I use NET on, AFC off, and UOS on. HAM=off, it forces the tones to the 2+ KHz standard. In TX TEST, first adjust the MIC knob for 4 bars of ALC and the 5th flickering when MMTTY is in transmit. THEN set your desired power output with the PWR knob. You can't adjust the power out with the MIC gain control. You may need to cut the K3--computer cable and put a 1:10 divider in it if the K3 line output is too hot for the computer sound card input. There are a lot of steps but once it's set up, you don't have to mess with anything. Best to start and then ask specific questions. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 1/29/2015 3:55 PM, Robert 'RC' Conley wrote: I would like to start RTTY operations and I really don't know where to begin to accomplish this task. I have a K3/100 with a P3 and a Dell laptop that runs Windows 7 professional. Also use N1MM when contesting Any directions would be helpful. Thanks KC5WA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Paddle RTTY
Hi, Discovered the same a couple of days ago but hadn't got around to investigating it. Don't know when it started but FWIW running 04.93 family firmware. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 10/12/2014 22:46, Bert via Elecraft wrote: It's been ages since I tried sending RTTY from my K3 using paddles; I've been using a SignaLink USB for RTTY for the past couple years! Anyway, I set up the K3 for FSK D, plugged the paddle into the paddle socket on the back of the K3, and no RTTY! So I checked cabling, etc., and still no RTTY using paddles. I switched over to CW mode and CW worked just fine! Back to FSK D and no RTTY. I have my call in an M1 macro, so I pushed M1 and got RTTY (text decoded properly!). Then I tried the paddles again -- nothing! So I pressed M1 and after my call was sent and the FSK was diddling, my paddles worked! When the diddling stopped, the paddles no longer produced RTTY. What am I missing here? Bert, N4CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Paddle RTTY
VOX on? 73, Olli Contest, DX radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 11.12.2014 02:46, schrieb Bert via Elecraft: It's been ages since I tried sending RTTY from my K3 using paddles; I've been using a SignaLink USB for RTTY for the past couple years! Anyway, I set up the K3 for FSK D, plugged the paddle into the paddle socket on the back of the K3, and no RTTY! So I checked cabling, etc., and still no RTTY using paddles. I switched over to CW mode and CW worked just fine! Back to FSK D and no RTTY. I have my call in an M1 macro, so I pushed M1 and got RTTY (text decoded properly!). Then I tried the paddles again -- nothing! So I pressed M1 and after my call was sent and the FSK was diddling, my paddles worked! When the diddling stopped, the paddles no longer produced RTTY. What am I missing here? Bert, N4CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dro...@necg.de __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Paddle RTTY
It's been ages since I tried sending RTTY from my K3 using paddles; I've been using a SignaLink USB for RTTY for the past couple years! Anyway, I set up the K3 for FSK D, plugged the paddle into the paddle socket on the back of the K3, and no RTTY! So I checked cabling, etc., and still no RTTY using paddles. I switched over to CW mode and CW worked just fine! Back to FSK D and no RTTY. I have my call in an M1 macro, so I pushed M1 and got RTTY (text decoded properly!). Then I tried the paddles again -- nothing! So I pressed M1 and after my call was sent and the FSK was diddling, my paddles worked! When the diddling stopped, the paddles no longer produced RTTY. What am I missing here? Bert, N4CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
Similar to others I had major problems with FSK-D RTTY with the latest beta firmware this weekend on my K3 #1210. I often found that my K3 didn't appear to recognize on the first attempt on a band that the KPA500 was even present at all and instead put out the full 100W that I normally run when not using the KPA500. I hadn't seen this reported by others. Needless to say the KPA faulted immediately on that! I never really found a repeatable sequence that would set the power. I had seen the note that power changes in TX or RX could be different so I frantically tried either after reducing power into the teens after the KPA faulted to huge overdrives. I eventually found settings on each of 10 thru 80m that were somewhere between 400 and 500w but never felt comfortable that something wasn't going to go nuts. FWIW, I normally run 500w or a bit more on RTTY with no problems at all prior to this beta. Eagerly awaiting a fix!!! 73 jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
It is Beta. If it doesn't work, roll back to a version that does. On 2/10/2014 7:51 AM, Jim Miller wrote: [snip] Eagerly awaiting a fix!!! 73 jim ab3cv __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
Of course... Was just adding to the info. Including the bit about the K3 not honoring the internal tables for KPA500 being attached. jim ab3cv On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Wes (N7WS) w...@triconet.org wrote: It is Beta. If it doesn't work, roll back to a version that does. On 2/10/2014 7:51 AM, Jim Miller wrote: [snip] Eagerly awaiting a fix!!! 73 jim ab3cv __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
Jim, I have a newer field-test release, 4.83, that fixes the primary problem of power-setting in RTTY mode (FSK-D). While I still have little more work to do to get power to settle quickly, 9 out of 10 ops testing 4.83 said it was working well enough for their needs. (Definitely fixes the problem from 4.81, which was *also* tested by a lot of ops, but they all missed this problem somehow. That's why we do beta before production….) I'll send you a copy. 73, Wayne N6KR On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: Similar to others I had major problems with FSK-D RTTY with the latest beta firmware this weekend on my K3 #1210. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - AFSK RTTY
Joe... This is great. Thanks for the information. One frustration down in my life.a couple of million to go. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. - John W. (Kansas) Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you. From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net; k6...@foothill.net Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - AFSK RTTY In N1MM - Config - Configure Ports, Mode Control, Audi, Other - Mode Control ... make sure you have set the RTTY mode to *AFSK* and not *RTTY* if you are using AFSK. For more information read the very fine N1MM Logger on-line documentation. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/5/2014 9:26 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: Here is one thing that will cause a similar problem: If you program a memory while DATA MD is X, then every time you recall that memory you will be put back into X, regardless of the DATA MD setting prior to the memory recall. You might have set the memory years ago when using FSK D and now are using AFSK A. Use the memory, go directly to FSK D. This bit me several times this weekend. However, I don't see an obvious connection between memory recall and N1MM band map clicking. /Rick On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: What would a contest be if everything always worked like it did the last time in the contest. I use a minimalist RTTY setup: 2 stereo cables from LINE IN/OUT to LINE OUT/IN AFSK-A with PTT from VOX N1MM with one instance of MMTTY Basically, it worked fine, made over 700 Q's. At the urging of the club, I decided on the new SO Unlimited [i.e. assisted], and that worked OK too except: Every time I clicked on a band map spot, the radio went to FSK-D, and of course wouldn't key. I had the couple of usual N1MM lockouts and re-starting N1MM also caused this change to FSK-D. I'm running 4.58 FW, haven't loaded new in a long time, and N1MM is running 13.10.2, also haven't updated that in quite awhile, both have been working very well. I don't think this is a K3 problem, but wanted to check if anyone else using the minimalist configuration has seen this. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org Go SF! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AFSK RTTY problem
Hi Ron and the group I hope you got your equipment to work on RTTY yesterday but if you didn't I have been there and done that several times. I didn't see anyone else respond so I will share some of my experiences. The first thing on all Windows systems newer than XP, Right click SPEAKERS than select playback devices, then communications and make sure to check DO NOTHING This turns off the AVC functions that are used by SKYPE and other similar programs. This may be causing your variations in level to the ALC. AFSK and FSKD use lower SSB on the Elecraft rigs while PSKD and DATA A use upper SSB. Your software must be set to match. My software was designed for other rigs and I must use INVERTED for AFSK or FSKD to make it work. Another variation I have seen to match some other rigs is TX INVERTED only. You should try the TEST position to see if you have the same ALC problem with no RF. It is possible to get RF feedback and or hum if there is a cable problem. I have also seen software do you a favor by switching to USB or RTTY after you have set up your transceiver. Needless to say this can cause unexplained problems until I can figure out what happened. I used FSKD in the contest yesterday to transmit and MixW to receive along with the N3FJP logging program. I used the following commands for F1 and F2. F1 kyw W0CZ W0CZ ;rx; F2 kyw 599 ND ND ;rx; . I also did some other F keys as desired. The rx; forces the transmitter to shut down right away after the message. I used the CATCMD function in the MixW macros but I think other software might have a similar method. If I use the K3 or KX3 utility than I use the COMMAND TESTER tab as the TERMINAL tab filters out all the commands. The MixW, MTTY and other programs often demodulate better than the utility for receiviing. I worked 161 RTTY contacts in the contest yesterday, all hunt and pounce using FSKD, in about 7 hours using 10, 15, 20, 40, and 80 meters. The antenna was my Hy-Gain Hy-Tower with radials. The station was the KX3 and the KXPA100-AT at 100 watts. Someone remarked yesterday that they had a new KX3 KXPA 100 station and they missed the P3 from the K3. I had the same problem and now use the iMic USB sound card from the I/Q jack on the KX3 and ROCKY software to give me a panadaptor display. It is not as nice as the P3 but it sure does work well for finding a contact either in a contest or for rag chewing. One final comment the KXPA100 has done everything I have tried so far. One caution though is PSK31 needs to be run at 50 watts or less because on that mode linearity becomes extremely important. If I operated in the RUN mode instead of HUNT and POUNCE it would also be important to cut my power back to 50 watts or less to prevent overheating the amplifier or the KX3. I hope these comments and suggestions are helpful. 73 and happy hamming in 2014 Ken W0CZ w...@i29.net Sent from my iPad On Jan 4, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Ron W3ZV w...@verizon.net wrote: I am trying to operate AFSK on 15m in the ARRL RU contest. I have 2 contacts in the last 2 hours. I am by no means a big gun, but I am usually better than this. Lineup is K3-KPA500-KAT-500. No problems on receive. Drive is set to produce about 350 watts from the KPA-500. SWR is below 1.5. As far as I can tell, baud rate, and shift are okay. I don’t think I am reversed. I know my signal is getting out, because I get a lot of AGN AGN. What disturbs me is that my ALC indication is rapidly jumping between 2 to 5 bars. This is not the 4 solid and 5 flickering. Power out on the KPA500 jumps between 300 and 400 watts. If anyone has a suggestion to get me back in the fray, I would be most grateful. Ron W3ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - AFSK RTTY
What would a contest be if everything always worked like it did the last time in the contest. I use a minimalist RTTY setup: 2 stereo cables from LINE IN/OUT to LINE OUT/IN AFSK-A with PTT from VOX N1MM with one instance of MMTTY Basically, it worked fine, made over 700 Q's. At the urging of the club, I decided on the new SO Unlimited [i.e. assisted], and that worked OK too except: Every time I clicked on a band map spot, the radio went to FSK-D, and of course wouldn't key. I had the couple of usual N1MM lockouts and re-starting N1MM also caused this change to FSK-D. I'm running 4.58 FW, haven't loaded new in a long time, and N1MM is running 13.10.2, also haven't updated that in quite awhile, both have been working very well. I don't think this is a K3 problem, but wanted to check if anyone else using the minimalist configuration has seen this. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org Go SF! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - AFSK RTTY
Here is one thing that will cause a similar problem: If you program a memory while DATA MD is X, then every time you recall that memory you will be put back into X, regardless of the DATA MD setting prior to the memory recall. You might have set the memory years ago when using FSK D and now are using AFSK A. Use the memory, go directly to FSK D. This bit me several times this weekend. However, I don't see an obvious connection between memory recall and N1MM band map clicking. /Rick On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: What would a contest be if everything always worked like it did the last time in the contest. I use a minimalist RTTY setup: 2 stereo cables from LINE IN/OUT to LINE OUT/IN AFSK-A with PTT from VOX N1MM with one instance of MMTTY Basically, it worked fine, made over 700 Q's. At the urging of the club, I decided on the new SO Unlimited [i.e. assisted], and that worked OK too except: Every time I clicked on a band map spot, the radio went to FSK-D, and of course wouldn't key. I had the couple of usual N1MM lockouts and re-starting N1MM also caused this change to FSK-D. I'm running 4.58 FW, haven't loaded new in a long time, and N1MM is running 13.10.2, also haven't updated that in quite awhile, both have been working very well. I don't think this is a K3 problem, but wanted to check if anyone else using the minimalist configuration has seen this. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org Go SF! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Rick Tavan N6XI Truckee, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - AFSK RTTY
In N1MM - Config - Configure Ports, Mode Control, Audi, Other - Mode Control ... make sure you have set the RTTY mode to *AFSK* and not *RTTY* if you are using AFSK. For more information read the very fine N1MM Logger on-line documentation. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/5/2014 9:26 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: Here is one thing that will cause a similar problem: If you program a memory while DATA MD is X, then every time you recall that memory you will be put back into X, regardless of the DATA MD setting prior to the memory recall. You might have set the memory years ago when using FSK D and now are using AFSK A. Use the memory, go directly to FSK D. This bit me several times this weekend. However, I don't see an obvious connection between memory recall and N1MM band map clicking. /Rick On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: What would a contest be if everything always worked like it did the last time in the contest. I use a minimalist RTTY setup: 2 stereo cables from LINE IN/OUT to LINE OUT/IN AFSK-A with PTT from VOX N1MM with one instance of MMTTY Basically, it worked fine, made over 700 Q's. At the urging of the club, I decided on the new SO Unlimited [i.e. assisted], and that worked OK too except: Every time I clicked on a band map spot, the radio went to FSK-D, and of course wouldn't key. I had the couple of usual N1MM lockouts and re-starting N1MM also caused this change to FSK-D. I'm running 4.58 FW, haven't loaded new in a long time, and N1MM is running 13.10.2, also haven't updated that in quite awhile, both have been working very well. I don't think this is a K3 problem, but wanted to check if anyone else using the minimalist configuration has seen this. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org Go SF! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AFSK RTTY problem
Yes, what you describes sounds like what happened to me when I switched to 80 meters. I did have to click the 'reverse' button on Fldigi to receive properly. Then when I tried to work stations, I got a lot of 'AGN.' I noticed the bargraph displays on the W2 watt meter kept flashing. I finally checked the DATA MD button and it was on 'AFSK A' instead of 'DATA A.' After changing it back to 'DATA A' and unchecking the 'reverse' button in Fldigi, I had no more problems. Mike KI0HA On 1/4/2014 14:52, Tony Kennedy wrote: Are you in DATA A mode, or if not do you have compression turned up too far? 73 -KD0TSX On Saturday, January 4, 2014, Ron W3ZV wrote: I am trying to operate AFSK on 15m in the ARRL RU contest. I have 2 contacts in the last 2 hours. I am by no means a big gun, but I am usually better than this. Lineup is K3-KPA500-KAT-500. No problems on receive. Drive is set to produce about 350 watts from the KPA-500. SWR is below 1.5. As far as I can tell, baud rate, and shift are okay. I don’t think I am reversed. I know my signal is getting out, because I get a lot of AGN AGN. What disturbs me is that my ALC indication is rapidly jumping between 2 to 5 bars. This is not the 4 solid and 5 flickering. Power out on the KPA500 jumps between 300 and 400 watts. If anyone has a suggestion to get me back in the fray, I would be most grateful. Ron W3ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net javascript:; This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 AFSK RTTY problem
I am trying to operate AFSK on 15m in the ARRL RU contest. I have 2 contacts in the last 2 hours. I am by no means a big gun, but I am usually better than this. Lineup is K3-KPA500-KAT-500. No problems on receive. Drive is set to produce about 350 watts from the KPA-500. SWR is below 1.5. As far as I can tell, baud rate, and shift are okay. I don’t think I am reversed. I know my signal is getting out, because I get a lot of AGN AGN. What disturbs me is that my ALC indication is rapidly jumping between 2 to 5 bars. This is not the 4 solid and 5 flickering. Power out on the KPA500 jumps between 300 and 400 watts. If anyone has a suggestion to get me back in the fray, I would be most grateful. Ron W3ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AFSK RTTY problem
Are you in DATA A mode, or if not do you have compression turned up too far? 73 -KD0TSX On Saturday, January 4, 2014, Ron W3ZV wrote: I am trying to operate AFSK on 15m in the ARRL RU contest. I have 2 contacts in the last 2 hours. I am by no means a big gun, but I am usually better than this. Lineup is K3-KPA500-KAT-500. No problems on receive. Drive is set to produce about 350 watts from the KPA-500. SWR is below 1.5. As far as I can tell, baud rate, and shift are okay. I don’t think I am reversed. I know my signal is getting out, because I get a lot of AGN AGN. What disturbs me is that my ALC indication is rapidly jumping between 2 to 5 bars. This is not the 4 solid and 5 flickering. Power out on the KPA500 jumps between 300 and 400 watts. If anyone has a suggestion to get me back in the fray, I would be most grateful. Ron W3ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net javascript:; This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and RTTY hookup question
You should let N1MM Logger do rig control. Assuming you have a serial cable between COM1 and your K3's RS232 jack, set the Radio command port in MMTTY to NONE and configure N1MM Logger to use COM1 to control your K3. That way the frequencies will be tracked in the N1MM Logger contest log. If you are using AFSK, you should also let N1MM Logger control TX/RX switching (PTT). That is, you should set MMTTY's FSK/PTT port to NONE and configure a PTT method within the N1MM Logger Configurer. See the N1MM Logger documentation for details. If you want to use FSK from MMTTY, you must use separate COM ports for radio control and FSK keying. The only way MMTTY can key FSK is using a separate port connected to the K3's ACC connector through a keying circuit. 73, Rich VE3KI KM5PS wrote: I have my k3 running well with N1MM and MMTTY thru com1, but frequency will not track because mmtty uses com 1 for control of rig. What is the best way to have the K3 track the frequency and mmtty control of the k3? Is it to use the 15 pin plug on the back of the rig? Not really a big deal unless you are in SP mode and click on a multiplier from list and rig does not go to the frequency, just would be nice though. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and RTTY hookup question
http://www.w3yy.com/k3.pdf 73 Uwe DK4WW -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Richard Ferch Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and RTTY hookup question You should let N1MM Logger do rig control. Assuming you have a serial cable between COM1 and your K3's RS232 jack, set the Radio command port in MMTTY to NONE and configure N1MM Logger to use COM1 to control your K3. That way the frequencies will be tracked in the N1MM Logger contest log. If you are using AFSK, you should also let N1MM Logger control TX/RX switching (PTT). That is, you should set MMTTY's FSK/PTT port to NONE and configure a PTT method within the N1MM Logger Configurer. See the N1MM Logger documentation for details. If you want to use FSK from MMTTY, you must use separate COM ports for radio control and FSK keying. The only way MMTTY can key FSK is using a separate port connected to the K3's ACC connector through a keying circuit. 73, Rich VE3KI KM5PS wrote: I have my k3 running well with N1MM and MMTTY thru com1, but frequency will not track because mmtty uses com 1 for control of rig. What is the best way to have the K3 track the frequency and mmtty control of the k3? Is it to use the 15 pin plug on the back of the rig? Not really a big deal unless you are in SP mode and click on a multiplier from list and rig does not go to the frequency, just would be nice though. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 and RTTY hookup question
Thanks for all advice. I looked at my config. settings again checked com 1 for k3. All is working great now. I thought that I had to set tx up in the rtty engin under n1mm for com 1 to transmitt, that is what I get for thinking. Thanks again. John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 and RTTY hookup question
I have my k3 running well with N1MM and MMTTY thru com1, but frequency will not track because mmtty uses com 1 for control of rig. What is the best way to have the K3 track the frequency and mmtty control of the k3? Is it to use the 15 pin plug on the back of the rig? Not really a big deal unless you are in SP mode and click on a multiplier from list and rig does not go to the frequency, just would be nice though. TIA John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt
Hello... I asked this a bit ago, but have lost that particular email. I'm new to digital modes, and I'm trying to use the K3 cw-rtty ability to see what's out there. I know that the pro-sign im ends a transmission. I have tried sending this pro-sign with all variations of speed, spacing, etc. However, it's very hit and miss. Most of the time the transmission times out on its own. Every now and then, randomly it seems, the im works and the transmission ends immediately. Most of the time, no. Any suggestions? Thanks. ...robert -- Robert G. Strickland, PhD, ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt
Robert, Keep in mind that it IS a prosign. That is, it should be sent with NO SPACING between the I and the M So, di-di-dah-dah with NO SPACING. The K3 internal CW keyer is not very forgiving in this regard. I think many people who have reported difficulty recording the CW memories from the paddle can attest to this. GL es 73, Bruce, N1RX I have tried sending this pro-sign with all variations of speed, spacing, etc. However, it's very hit and miss. Most of the time the transmission times out on its own. Every now and then, randomly it seems, the im works and the transmission ends immediately. Most of the time, no. Any suggestions? Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt
You can put this into a CW memory with the K3 or KX3 Utility. Use the vertical bar character | where you want an IM sent. It has no effect when the memory is sent in CW. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:54 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt Robert, Keep in mind that it IS a prosign. That is, it should be sent with NO SPACING between the I and the M So, di-di-dah-dah with NO SPACING. The K3 internal CW keyer is not very forgiving in this regard. I think many people who have reported difficulty recording the CW memories from the paddle can attest to this. GL es 73, Bruce, N1RX I have tried sending this pro-sign with all variations of speed, spacing, etc. However, it's very hit and miss. Most of the time the transmission times out on its own. Every now and then, randomly it seems, the im works and the transmission ends immediately. Most of the time, no. Any suggestions? Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt
While this is absolutely true, Dick (K3/KX3 Utility author)- The whole idea of CW to RTTY is to -not- require a computer. 8-) The K3 CW keyer routines could use some tweaking in the area of spacing rigidity. (IMHO) 73 and keep up the great work, Bruce, N1RX You can put this into a CW memory with the K3 or KX3 Utility. Use the vertical bar character | where you want an IM sent. It has no effect when the memory is sent in CW. 73 de Dick, K6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt
Bruce, While what you say is true, keep in mind that if the user has difficulty, using the K3 Utility to store memory contents is still OK. After the memories are stored, no computer is required. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/24/2012 7:08 PM, Bruce Beford wrote: While this is absolutely true, Dick (K3/KX3 Utility author)- The whole idea of CW to RTTY is to -not- require a computer. 8-) The K3 CW keyer routines could use some tweaking in the area of spacing rigidity. (IMHO) 73 and keep up the great work, Bruce, N1RX You can put this into a CW memory with the K3 or KX3 Utility. Use the vertical bar character | where you want an IM sent. It has no effect when the memory is sent in CW. 73 de Dick, K6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt
Bruce: Once the memory is loaded with an IM, and the computer is disconnected, you can punch that memory button to send the IM if you're having trouble sending it with a paddle. A computer connection is required to install IM into a memory. No computer connection is required to send IM from that memory. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:08 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt While this is absolutely true, Dick (K3/KX3 Utility author)- The whole idea of CW to RTTY is to -not- require a computer. 8-) The K3 CW keyer routines could use some tweaking in the area of spacing rigidity. (IMHO) 73 and keep up the great work, Bruce, N1RX You can put this into a CW memory with the K3 or KX3 Utility. Use the vertical bar character | where you want an IM sent. It has no effect when the memory is sent in CW. 73 de Dick, K6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - help rtty pro sign IM end of xmt
Dick, So you are suggesting loading an RTTY memory with just an IM to end a CW-RTTY transmission? IOW, send your message via the paddle, the recall a memory to send the IM? -Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] PSK31 RTTY with K3 and SignaLink USB
I have a SignaLink USB external soundcard that I have used successfully for years with my former rig (FT1000MP). Got around to hooking it up to the K3 (#474) a couple weeks ago but still don't seem to have it right. I have the K3 jumper plug and the SignaLink K3 cable. There appears to be some conflict in the instructions from Tigertronics for the SignaLink device and those provided for operating Data Mode (Data A) with the K3. I understand that in using Data A, the K3's compression is turned off automatically. But the SignaLink documentation says turn the transmitter power to full output. The K3 instructions say to set output power lower on the K3 (25 or 30 watts) which is all I have ever used with data modes. Tigertronics says that the TX control pot on the front of the SignaLink becomes the output power (drive) adjustment for the transmitter. That isn't happening. And while the K3 automatically shuts down the compression mode, I'm wondering if it should also save the PO per mode and band. I have been through the K3 Data Mode section of the manual as well as Fred's (KE7X) fine expansion book and just get more confused. Any SignaLink USB - K3 veterans have any thoughts on what I'm missing in the setup? Thanks and 73, Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK31 RTTY with K3 and SignaLink USB
I run the Signalink USB to my K3. In data mode the knobs on the Signalink are around 10 o'clock. I then set the power to 25 watts on the K3. Works great. Other modes such as CW the Signalink stays the same and I just adjust the power on the K3. Compression is always off. The main issue I had was getting the ALC set. Put radio in test mode and set levels to where the 5th bar just flickers on and off. Put back in normal transmit and you should be good. You can message me off list if you need any other tips or want to attempt contact when it is set up. Mine works great. Good luck and have fun. Gerald - KC6CNN On Jul 5, 2012 10:55 AM, Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com wrote: I have a SignaLink USB external soundcard that I have used successfully for years with my former rig (FT1000MP). Got around to hooking it up to the K3 (#474) a couple weeks ago but still don't seem to have it right. I have the K3 jumper plug and the SignaLink K3 cable. There appears to be some conflict in the instructions from Tigertronics for the SignaLink device and those provided for operating Data Mode (Data A) with the K3. I understand that in using Data A, the K3's compression is turned off automatically. But the SignaLink documentation says turn the transmitter power to full output. The K3 instructions say to set output power lower on the K3 (25 or 30 watts) which is all I have ever used with data modes. Tigertronics says that the TX control pot on the front of the SignaLink becomes the output power (drive) adjustment for the transmitter. That isn't happening. And while the K3 automatically shuts down the compression mode, I'm wondering if it should also save the PO per mode and band. I have been through the K3 Data Mode section of the manual as well as Fred's (KE7X) fine expansion book and just get more confused. Any SignaLink USB - K3 veterans have any thoughts on what I'm missing in the setup? Thanks and 73, Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK31 RTTY with K3 and SignaLink USB
Yes, follow the direction of Elecraft on using the Elecraft K3, K2, or KX3. Set the audio drive to the level that produces 4 bars with the fifth one blinking. ALC does not happen until the fifth bar. The first four bars are audio level and 4 bars are required to produce proper TX signal. Now set the power to whatever setting you want via the PWR knob on the K3. You are using LINE IN on the rear of the radio for input, I hope. You also should set that port to LIN IN, not MIC. Check the manual on this as I am away from my radio and did this a long time ago. I do not use the SignaLink with my K3. I just connect two stereo cable from the LIN IN/LIN OUT to the computer sound card, and it works just fine. Never saw a need for the SL-USB with this radio. I know, it frees up the sound card in the computer, but this computer is ONLY used for ham radio so that's not an issue in my shack. YMMV. Hope this helps, good luck! ...bill nr4c On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:55:35 -0500, Terry Schieler wrote: I have a SignaLink USB external soundcard that I have used successfully for years with my former rig (FT1000MP). Got around to hooking it up to the K3 (#474) a couple weeks ago but still don't seem to have it right. I have the K3 jumper plug and the SignaLink K3 cable. There appears to be some conflict in the instructions from Tigertronics for the SignaLink device and those provided for operating Data Mode (Data A) with the K3. I understand that in using Data A, the K3's compression is turned off automatically. But the SignaLink documentation says turn the transmitter power to full output. The K3 instructions say to set output power lower on the K3 (25 or 30 watts) which is all I have ever used with data modes. Tigertronics says that the TX control pot on the front of the SignaLink becomes the output power (drive) adjustment for the transmitter. That isn't happening. And while the K3 automatically shuts down the compression mode, I'm wondering if it should also save the PO per mode and band. I have been through the K3 Data Mode section of the manual as well as Fred's (KE7X) fine expansion book and just get more confused. Any SignaLink USB - K3 veterans have any thoughts on what I'm missing in the setup? Thanks and 73, Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK31 RTTY with K3 and SignaLink USB
Oh PS : Make sure you have it set for PSK under data mode, it changes for RTTY too. On Jul 5, 2012 11:08 AM, Gerald Manthey kc6...@gmail.com wrote: I run the Signalink USB to my K3. In data mode the knobs on the Signalink are around 10 o'clock. I then set the power to 25 watts on the K3. Works great. Other modes such as CW the Signalink stays the same and I just adjust the power on the K3. Compression is always off. The main issue I had was getting the ALC set. Put radio in test mode and set levels to where the 5th bar just flickers on and off. Put back in normal transmit and you should be good. You can message me off list if you need any other tips or want to attempt contact when it is set up. Mine works great. Good luck and have fun. Gerald - KC6CNN On Jul 5, 2012 10:55 AM, Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com wrote: I have a SignaLink USB external soundcard that I have used successfully for years with my former rig (FT1000MP). Got around to hooking it up to the K3 (#474) a couple weeks ago but still don't seem to have it right. I have the K3 jumper plug and the SignaLink K3 cable. There appears to be some conflict in the instructions from Tigertronics for the SignaLink device and those provided for operating Data Mode (Data A) with the K3. I understand that in using Data A, the K3's compression is turned off automatically. But the SignaLink documentation says turn the transmitter power to full output. The K3 instructions say to set output power lower on the K3 (25 or 30 watts) which is all I have ever used with data modes. Tigertronics says that the TX control pot on the front of the SignaLink becomes the output power (drive) adjustment for the transmitter. That isn't happening. And while the K3 automatically shuts down the compression mode, I'm wondering if it should also save the PO per mode and band. I have been through the K3 Data Mode section of the manual as well as Fred's (KE7X) fine expansion book and just get more confused. Any SignaLink USB - K3 veterans have any thoughts on what I'm missing in the setup? Thanks and 73, Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK31 RTTY with K3 and SignaLink USB
Thanks Bill. Yes, I knew the outboard sound card was not necessary, but had it on hand and like the other data modes in the various software programs available. Also, I have no immediate plans to take my K3 to the field. Yes, using the line In on the rear of the radio. I am hoping that once set, the K3 needs no additional resetting when going from PSK to RTTY and the ALC setting automatically reverts back to the voice setting without further effort on the ops part. 73, Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of nr4c Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 11:06 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK31 RTTY with K3 and SignaLink USB Yes, follow the direction of Elecraft on using the Elecraft K3, K2, or KX3. Set the audio drive to the level that produces 4 bars with the fifth one blinking. ALC does not happen until the fifth bar. The first four bars are audio level and 4 bars are required to produce proper TX signal. Now set the power to whatever setting you want via the PWR knob on the K3. You are using LINE IN on the rear of the radio for input, I hope. You also should set that port to LIN IN, not MIC. Check the manual on this as I am away from my radio and did this a long time ago. I do not use the SignaLink with my K3. I just connect two stereo cable from the LIN IN/LIN OUT to the computer sound card, and it works just fine. Never saw a need for the SL-USB with this radio. I know, it frees up the sound card in the computer, but this computer is ONLY used for ham radio so that's not an issue in my shack. YMMV. Hope this helps, good luck! ...bill nr4c On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:55:35 -0500, Terry Schieler wrote: I have a SignaLink USB external soundcard that I have used successfully for years with my former rig (FT1000MP). Got around to hooking it up to the K3 (#474) a couple weeks ago but still don't seem to have it right. I have the K3 jumper plug and the SignaLink K3 cable. There appears to be some conflict in the instructions from Tigertronics for the SignaLink device and those provided for operating Data Mode (Data A) with the K3. I understand that in using Data A, the K3's compression is turned off automatically. But the SignaLink documentation says turn the transmitter power to full output. The K3 instructions say to set output power lower on the K3 (25 or 30 watts) which is all I have ever used with data modes. Tigertronics says that the TX control pot on the front of the SignaLink becomes the output power (drive) adjustment for the transmitter. That isn't happening. And while the K3 automatically shuts down the compression mode, I'm wondering if it should also save the PO per mode and band. I have been through the K3 Data Mode section of the manual as well as Fred's (KE7X) fine expansion book and just get more confused. Any SignaLink USB - K3 veterans have any thoughts on what I'm missing in the setup? Thanks and 73, Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question
Good Morning All, I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope... My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if my choice of the Signalink USP is a good choice for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3 Tnx es VY73' Steve W8CRH SEMPER FI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question
Steve... Although some argue that adjuncts like the SignaLink are not needed. I have used SignaLinks on a K2, an ICOM 910H, and now my K3/100+P3. I am very pleased with the way in which it gives me that extra little degree of control, and in particular in the way in which it enhances FLDIGI/FLRIG for both RTTYand PSK of all speeds. For $67 it has been worth every nickel of the price, especially vis-a-vis the costs of the other parts of my HF station. I run FLDIGI/FLRIG and the screen-captured P3 screen on one of my two monitors, which leaves the other one free for any other need. On the various PSK speeds, I run at 25 watts on the K3, and on RTTY I move the output up to 75-80 watts. If I want to run CW, I just shut down FLDIGI (it is not a sterling performer on CW) and run without a decoder. Even on my forays into SSB (usually on VHF or UHF, where I run 350 watts) I leave FLRIG running, as it gives very nice semi-remote access to many of the K3 parameters, but that has little to do with the issue of using a SignaLink. John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 5/3/2012 7:32 AM, Steve wrote: Good Morning All, I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope... My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if my choice of the Signalink USP is a good choice for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3 Tnx es VY73' Steve W8CRH SEMPER FI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question
Hi, Steve, \ I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an interface. But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill. I use two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works just fine. The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers (KX3 will not be). Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card. PTT can be handled via the serial CAT cable. bill nr4c On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote: Good Morning All, I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope... My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if my choice of the Signalink USP is a good choice for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3 Tnx es VY73' Steve W8CRH SEMPER FI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question
Hi Bill, For my K3 I do just as you say. A serial cable plus two audio cables connected to the line in/out of my computer sound card and my K3. Tossed my homebrew interface I used with my FT-1000 in the parts box. However my laptop does not have line in/out and so far the KX3 does not have line in/out. I get odd noise that looks like hum plus some scruff when I connect my KX3 directly to my laptop. It works but do not want to transmit the noise. So some sort of isolation and level adjusting is needed beyond just the computer sliders and KX3 mike gain and speaker level adjustment. Seems to me that is. So for my KX3 I just picked up the TRRS and TRS right angle connectors and plan to hook up one of my unterminated SL-USB cables ( short Ethernet cut in half) to play. Given the SL-USB is in my go kit anyway with my laptop. May use one of the inexpensive interface boards I found on eBay with a couple transformers and transistor switch. Or just grab some resistors and audio isolation transformers out of my parts boxes, i.e. dust off my old interface board. So yes, with the KX3 seems an interface is needed. Was very happy to read that in the future a firmware update might include having the speaker out and microphone in be switched to line out and in for the data modes. What do you use with your KX3??? 73, tom n4zpt On 5/3/2012 9:32 AM, nr4c wrote: Hi, Steve, \ I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an interface. But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill. I use two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works just fine. The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers (KX3 will not be). Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card. PTT can be handled via the serial CAT cable. bill nr4c On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote: Good Morning All, I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope... My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if my choice of the Signalink USP is a good choice for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3 Tnx es VY73' Steve W8CRH SEMPER FI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question
Welll My KX3 is on the list, I'm near the top of Dec 28 (00:23:59) so I am not sure at this point. I have a circuit board that has holes for a couple of iso transformers, and a pot. Will prob put something together using it when it gets here. Anxious in Williamsburg, bill nr4c -Original Message- From: Tom Azlin N4ZPT [mailto:t...@n4zpt.org] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:49 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question Hi Bill, For my K3 I do just as you say. A serial cable plus two audio cables connected to the line in/out of my computer sound card and my K3. Tossed my homebrew interface I used with my FT-1000 in the parts box. However my laptop does not have line in/out and so far the KX3 does not have line in/out. I get odd noise that looks like hum plus some scruff when I connect my KX3 directly to my laptop. It works but do not want to transmit the noise. So some sort of isolation and level adjusting is needed beyond just the computer sliders and KX3 mike gain and speaker level adjustment. Seems to me that is. So for my KX3 I just picked up the TRRS and TRS right angle connectors and plan to hook up one of my unterminated SL-USB cables ( short Ethernet cut in half) to play. Given the SL-USB is in my go kit anyway with my laptop. May use one of the inexpensive interface boards I found on eBay with a couple transformers and transistor switch. Or just grab some resistors and audio isolation transformers out of my parts boxes, i.e. dust off my old interface board. So yes, with the KX3 seems an interface is needed. Was very happy to read that in the future a firmware update might include having the speaker out and microphone in be switched to line out and in for the data modes. What do you use with your KX3??? 73, tom n4zpt On 5/3/2012 9:32 AM, nr4c wrote: Hi, Steve, \ I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an interface. But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill. I use two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works just fine. The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers (KX3 will not be). Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card. PTT can be handled via the serial CAT cable. bill nr4c On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote: Good Morning All, I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope... My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if my choice of the Signalink USP is a good choice for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3 Tnx es VY73' Steve W8CRH SEMPER FI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question
Hi Bill, Good deal on the order in! As soon as they get past midnight then you should be close. I have a whole handful of small transformers both from digikey and radio shack we got for club interface project. And bunches of optical coupled Darlingtons. And perfboard I used in the past. Also have a breadboard that just has three transformers ( for dual receive) with pairs of RCA connectors. I first just connected the cables directly to my laptop but the hum/noise was not acceptable. Even pulled the AC cord on the laptop and ran on batteries. But then I expected that based on early interfaces for my other pre-K3 radios. and back to the start of this thread. yes, the SignaLin-USB should be fine also. Especially if you happen to have one handy. 73, tom n4zpt On 5/3/2012 3:35 PM, Bill Conkling wrote: Welll My KX3 is on the list, I'm near the top of Dec 28 (00:23:59) so I am not sure at this point. I have a circuit board that has holes for a couple of iso transformers, and a pot. Will prob put something together using it when it gets here. Anxious in Williamsburg, bill nr4c -Original Message- From: Tom Azlin N4ZPT [mailto:t...@n4zpt.org] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:49 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question Hi Bill, For my K3 I do just as you say. A serial cable plus two audio cables connected to the line in/out of my computer sound card and my K3. Tossed my homebrew interface I used with my FT-1000 in the parts box. However my laptop does not have line in/out and so far the KX3 does not have line in/out. I get odd noise that looks like hum plus some scruff when I connect my KX3 directly to my laptop. It works but do not want to transmit the noise. So some sort of isolation and level adjusting is needed beyond just the computer sliders and KX3 mike gain and speaker level adjustment. Seems to me that is. So for my KX3 I just picked up the TRRS and TRS right angle connectors and plan to hook up one of my unterminated SL-USB cables ( short Ethernet cut in half) to play. Given the SL-USB is in my go kit anyway with my laptop. May use one of the inexpensive interface boards I found on eBay with a couple transformers and transistor switch. Or just grab some resistors and audio isolation transformers out of my parts boxes, i.e. dust off my old interface board. So yes, with the KX3 seems an interface is needed. Was very happy to read that in the future a firmware update might include having the speaker out and microphone in be switched to line out and in for the data modes. What do you use with your KX3??? 73, tom n4zpt On 5/3/2012 9:32 AM, nr4c wrote: Hi, Steve, \ I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an interface. But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill. I use two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works just fine. The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers (KX3 will not be). Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card. PTT can be handled via the serial CAT cable. bill nr4c On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote: Good Morning All, I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope... My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if my choice of the Signalink USP is a good choice for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3 Tnx es VY73' Steve W8CRH SEMPER FI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate
What am I doing wrong? I use FSK D and it seems like the default baud rate is 75 bps when I check the setting in MD DATA. How can I set the K3 up so 45 bps is the default? 73, Paul K9NU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate
Change it to 45 bps and it should remember. What am I doing wrong? I use FSK D and it seems like the default baud rate is 75 bps when I check the setting in MD DATA. How can I set the K3 up so 45 bps is the default? 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate
Do you change bands or modes using quick memories or M1-M4? Maybe you accidentally saved 75 baud in memory, and that's why it keeps coming back. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Paul A DeFelice Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:37 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate What am I doing wrong? I use FSK D and it seems like the default baud rate is 75 bps when I check the setting in MD DATA. How can I set the K3 up so 45 bps is the default? 73, Paul K9NU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate
Hmm this is interesting. I set (saved) all my quick memories long ago (before the introduction of the 75 baud choice). I just checked all the RTTY memories and they are now set for 75 baud. I didn't change anything to make this happen (except upgrade firmware). K3 #3223 FW 4.12. Is 75 baud now default? I would hope not. Earl N5ZM.. On 10/22/2010 1:34 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: Do you change bands or modes using quick memories or M1-M4? Maybe you accidentally saved 75 baud in memory, and that's why it keeps coming back. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Paul A DeFelice Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:37 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate What am I doing wrong? I use FSK D and it seems like the default baud rate is 75 bps when I check the setting in MD DATA. How can I set the K3 up so 45 bps is the default? 73, Paul K9NU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate
New K3s all have 45 baud as the default for all memories. K3s that were built before the associated firmware change may come up at 75 baud, requiring a one-time, per-memory or per-band change back to 45 (using the TEXT DEC switch). If copy is poor, the baud rate is probably wrong. Sorry for the inconvenience-- Wayne N6KR On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Earl wrote: Hmm this is interesting. I set (saved) all my quick memories long ago (before the introduction of the 75 baud choice). I just checked all the RTTY memories and they are now set for 75 baud. I didn't change anything to make this happen (except upgrade firmware). K3 #3223 FW 4.12. Is 75 baud now default? I would hope not. Earl N5ZM.. On 10/22/2010 1:34 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: Do you change bands or modes using quick memories or M1-M4? Maybe you accidentally saved 75 baud in memory, and that's why it keeps coming back. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Paul A DeFelice Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:37 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate What am I doing wrong? I use FSK D and it seems like the default baud rate is 75 bps when I check the setting in MD DATA. How can I set the K3 up so 45 bps is the default? 73, Paul K9NU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate
Got it! - Done!! Thanks Wayne.. Earl N5ZM.. On 10/22/2010 9:10 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: New K3s all have 45 baud as the default for all memories. K3s that were built before the associated firmware change may come up at 75 baud, requiring a one-time, per-memory or per-band change back to 45 (using the TEXT DEC switch). If copy is poor, the baud rate is probably wrong. Sorry for the inconvenience-- Wayne N6KR On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Earl wrote: Hmm this is interesting. I set (saved) all my quick memories long ago (before the introduction of the 75 baud choice). I just checked all the RTTY memories and they are now set for 75 baud. I didn't change anything to make this happen (except upgrade firmware). K3 #3223 FW 4.12. Is 75 baud now default? I would hope not. Earl N5ZM.. On 10/22/2010 1:34 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: Do you change bands or modes using quick memories or M1-M4? Maybe you accidentally saved 75 baud in memory, and that's why it keeps coming back. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Paul A DeFelice Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:37 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 default RTTY baud rate What am I doing wrong? I use FSK D and it seems like the default baud rate is 75 bps when I check the setting in MD DATA. How can I set the K3 up so 45 bps is the default? 73, Paul K9NU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- In every walk with nature, one receives far more than he seeks. John Muir.. Earl F. Smith - N5ZM PO Box 20065 White Hall, AR 71612-0065 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 NATIVE rtty AND N1MM LOGGER
N1MM LOGGER GOES INTO RTTY MODE WHEN I select PSK D, understandably. However, it means that my cw messages don't work. Neither do the N1MM digital messages work because the K3 is expecting cw input. So, do I have to hand key all of my transmissions??? Help please ... eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 NATIVE rtty AND N1MM LOGGER
Eric,
First, you cannot use PSK D for PSK31 with a computer unless you are
using the K3 Utility. All PSK31 software that I know of, other than the
K3 Utility, works by creating the PSK signal in a sound card and sending
that to the radio. In PSK D the radio does not accept audio input. It
can accept ASCII text input through the computer interface, but apart
from the K3 Utility, as far as I know there is no other software that
uses this method. To send PSK31 from a computer using standard PSK
software, put the radio into DATA A mode, which accepts audio input from
a sound card.
Second, to use CW input for either FSK D or PSK D, you have to use a
paddle connected to the K3's internal CW keyer. The radio does not
accept CW from the key jack for this purpose, and therefore you cannot
an external keyer or CW software.
In FSK D, the way software such as MMTTY keys the radio is by commanding
a serial port to key the TxD line with the Baudot code at the chosen
speed. This line must be connected to pin 1 of the ACC connector through
a keying circuit.
In AFSK A and DATA A, an audio signal is fed from the computer's sound
card to the K3's LINE IN jack.
Third, while N1MM Logger does not support PSK D, it does support the
other three data modes. It calls FSK D RTTY, AFSK A AFSK, and DATA A
PSK. Open the N1MM Logger's Configurer and select the Mode Control
tab. On the right side of the window is a pane for Mode sent to radio.
Beside RTTY, select RTTY if you want to use FSK D, or AFSK if you want
to use AFSK A. When the Logger is placed in RTTY mode (either because
the contest is an RTTY-only contest or because you type RTTY into the
Entry window), the radio will be put into FSK D or AFSK A depending on
how you have set up this panel. Beside PSK, select PSK, which will set
the data mode to DATA A whenever the program is in PSK mode. You can
also set the mode by clicking on the mode at the top right of the
Bandmap. Each time you click on the mode, the program will step one step
through its list of modes.
Fourth, if the function keys in the Entry window are displaying CW
messages, the program is in the wrong mode. Assuming you are in a
contest module that permits digital modes, type RTTY or PSK into the
call sign box and press Enter. The program should now select the digital
message set. The messages should start with {TX} and end with {RX}.
These messages will be sent to MMTTY or MMVARI or Fldigi, which in turn
will send them to the radio in the appropriate format (audio for AFSK A
and DATA A, on-off keying in FSK D).
73,
Rich VE3KI
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[Elecraft] K3 in RTTY is great
I have a modest station with 3 ground mounted verticals, no beams or towers. I just completed the CQ WPX RTTY contest. My score improved by about 35% over last year. The only change at my station during the past year was the K3. It decodes weak RTTY signals like a champ. Kudos to the K3 it is just a fantastic rig. You gotta love this radio! Rich __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 in RTTY is great
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 5:34 PM, K3RWN rwnewbo...@comcast.net wrote: I have a modest station with 3 ground mounted verticals, no beams or towers. I just completed the CQ WPX RTTY contest. My score improved by about 35% over last year. The only change at my station during the past year was the K3. It decodes weak RTTY signals like a champ. Good going. Don't want to rain on the K3 parade, but conditions were at least 35% better this year than last. 73, Hank, W6SX Mammoth Lakes, California Elevation 8083 feet in John Muir's Range of Light __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 on RTTY FSK
Hello Group I am a new owner of a K3. I was testing RTTY FSK before WPX and found that it will only transmit on 10, 20 and 80m. On other bands only have the red led... Is there anything I should program? Thanks Claude VE2FK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 on RTTY FSK
Claude, The mode (as well as the separate Data Mode) are 'per band' settings. Have you assured yourself that the mode was set to DATA on each band and the Data Mode (hold DATA MD button) was set to FSK D - I assume that is what you are using from your statement - you must use the ACC connector input pin for FSK, if you are using soundcard generated RTTY, then select AFSK and check that the mark frequency in your software is the same as the setting on the K3. 73, Don W3FPR Claude Du Berger wrote: Hello Group I am a new owner of a K3. I was testing RTTY FSK before WPX and found that it will only transmit on 10, 20 and 80m. On other bands only have the red led... Is there anything I should program? Thanks Claude VE2FK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 on RTTY FSK
Thanks Don and all the group. Yes I am using FSK with a MK-II. I had not FSK-D setted on all band. Will remember. All is working nicely now. Thanks, 73 Claude VE2FK ve...@arrl.net K3 #3889 - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm To: Claude Du Berger Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 on RTTY FSK Claude, The mode (as well as the separate Data Mode) are 'per band' settings. Have you assured yourself that the mode was set to DATA on each band and the Data Mode (hold DATA MD button) was set to FSK D - I assume that is what you are using from your statement - you must use the ACC connector input pin for FSK, if you are using soundcard generated RTTY, then select AFSK and check that the mark frequency in your software is the same as the setting on the K3. 73, Don W3FPR Claude Du Berger wrote: Hello Group I am a new owner of a K3. I was testing RTTY FSK before WPX and found that it will only transmit on 10, 20 and 80m. On other bands only have the red led... Is there anything I should program? Thanks Claude VE2FK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - N1MM - RTTY
Jim, This is not a mode question, it's a matter of how you set your filters. What you see in the MMTTY waterfall/spectrum display is controlled by how you have set the Shift and Width controls on the K3 (and the dual tone filter, if you are using it), not by what mode the radio is in. I'd suggest you try turning the dual tone filter off while you are SPing, and opening up the width control if you want to see what is on either side of you. MMTTY's X-Y display can be very useful for tuning in signals accurately. You can set it to reverse rotation in MMTTY, which I find easier to use than the default. On receive, FSK D and AFSK A are basically the same. The difference is in how you key the transmitter. For RTTY, AFSK A and FSK D both have tuning, filtering and decoding aids that aren't available in DATA A. Also, DATA A is on the opposite sideband to AFSK A, so you have to set MMTTY to Rev when using DATA A. 73, Rich VE3KI I'm just trying to figure this out for the first time. What mode (best) does one use \ for Search and Pounce on the K3 for RTTY when using N1MM with MMTTY viewer (No \ panadapter(yet)) ??? HRD/DM780 works great in DataA mode for general contacts but doesn't have the log \ entry panel set up for the needed exchanges for the individual contests so not able \ to upload the log file to the contest site. Can upload ADIF to LOTW just fine. On N1MM it is hard to tune with Data mode FSK with the RTTY filter because you can't \ see much when going to the next station. I was having trouble using Data A mode. TIA ex 73, de JIm KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - N1MM - RTTY
I'm just trying to figure this out for the first time. What mode (best) does one use for Search and Pounce on the K3 for RTTY when using N1MM with MMTTY viewer (No panadapter(yet)) ??? HRD/DM780 works great in DataA mode for general contacts but doesn't have the log entry panel set up for the needed exchanges for the individual contests so not able to upload the log file to the contest site. Can upload ADIF to LOTW just fine. On N1MM it is hard to tune with Data mode FSK with the RTTY filter because you can't see much when going to the next station. I was having trouble using Data A mode. TIA ex 73, de JIm KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 FW3.51 RTTY
Was switching between various digital modes and shot myself in the foot. Turns out that AFX was set on by mistake and it destroyed the dual peak passband function. I was unable to decode RTTY with an external TNC connected to line out. Spectrogram showed why. Turning AFX off fixed it. Note: I do have left and right channels mixed here but was operating with the main RX only. So this shouldn't matter. I was under the impression that all special signal processing was turned off when going to digital modes. It appears AFX should be one of them. 73 de Brian/K3KO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.40/2471 - Release Date: 10/31/09 07:53:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW3.51 RTTY
Hi Brian. I wanted to test this so I have been working some rtty this afternoon. I don't see any difference in the dual peak traces with AFX either off or on. I tried with AFX set to BIN and also with some of the delay settings. In all cases the traces looked the same and did not change decoding. Do you maybe have Line Out set to = phones and maybe that is doing something? 73 Greg AB7R - Original Message - From: Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FW3.51 RTTY Was switching between various digital modes and shot myself in the foot. Turns out that AFX was set on by mistake and it destroyed the dual peak passband function. I was unable to decode RTTY with an external TNC connected to line out. Spectrogram showed why. Turning AFX off fixed it. Note: I do have left and right channels mixed here but was operating with the main RX only. So this shouldn't matter. I was under the impression that all special signal processing was turned off when going to digital modes. It appears AFX should be one of them. 73 de Brian/K3KO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.40/2471 - Release Date: 10/31/09 07:53:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY
There are a couple of choices. I chose to use a 15-pin Y connector and plug a microHAM cable on one side of the Y and a Top Ten Devices Band Decoder on the other. Another choice is a little breakout board with connectors for leads. And of course you can make up your own cable. All of these have been discussed on this forum. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote: Hi Folks, I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup. But, not complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to contest using FSK RTTY. Looks like the only way to get the FSK from the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the radio. Looks like there are several other functions that go through the connector. The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all the data from apparently several locations and get it into the connector. Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing. I applaud the built in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among several pieces of hardware. Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need to start contemplating building a breakout cable? Thanks for any help. Have a good day and 73. Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY
Welcome to the K3 world Jim. I have used the one transistor interface from the MMTTY help files built into a D plug. It uses 1 x NPN transistor (any small signal one will do), 2 x resistors and 2 x diodes. I no longer use the MMTTY program but recall not needing a PTT connection, only the FSK one (from memory the PTT can be done via serial cable, the normal one used for used for programming and logging between the PC and the K3). I have a multi serial card in my PC so there is no shortage of proper serial connections. I no longer use MMTTY, but use Ham Radio Deluxe for sound card data modes and that program only needs the serial cable and 2 x 3.5mm stereo cables between sound card and K3 (the audio input on the K3 is mono but the stereo cables work just fine). Above all else, there is no need to rush out buying interfaces... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 - I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup. But, not complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to contest using FSK RTTY. Looks like the only way to get the FSK from the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the radio. Looks like there are several other functions that go through the connector. The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all the data from apparently several locations and get it into the connector. Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing. I applaud the built in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among several pieces of hardware. Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need to start contemplating building a breakout cable? Thanks for any help. Have a good day and 73. Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY
Hi Folks, I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup. But, not complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to contest using FSK RTTY. Looks like the only way to get the FSK from the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the radio. Looks like there are several other functions that go through the connector. The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all the data from apparently several locations and get it into the connector. Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing. I applaud the built in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among several pieces of hardware. Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need to start contemplating building a breakout cable? Thanks for any help. Have a good day and 73. Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY
There are a couple of choices. I chose to use a 15-pin Y connector and plug a microHAM cable on one side of the Y and a Top Ten Devices Band Decoder on the other. Another choice is a little breakout board with connectors for leads. And of course you can make up your own cable. All of these have been discussed on this forum. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote: Hi Folks, I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup. But, not complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to contest using FSK RTTY. Looks like the only way to get the FSK from the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the radio. Looks like there are several other functions that go through the connector. The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all the data from apparently several locations and get it into the connector. Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing. I applaud the built in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among several pieces of hardware. Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need to start contemplating building a breakout cable? Thanks for any help. Have a good day and 73. Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY
Jim Harris schreef: Hi Folks, I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup. But, not complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to contest using FSK RTTY. Looks like the only way to get the FSK from the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the radio. Looks like there are several other functions that go through the connector. The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all the data from apparently several locations and get it into the connector. Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing. I applaud the built in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among several pieces of hardware. Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need to start contemplating building a breakout cable? Thanks for any help. Have a good day and 73. Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Hi An example of a rtty cable can be found at http://www.pi4cc.nl/personal/pc2a/k3/ Peter __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: send RTTY using KEY IN?
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: OK...so we can send RTTY using the paddle in. What about sending RTTY using the KEY IN (as in, use an outboard contest program to send CW and have the K3 convert it to RY). I know that this was supposed to be on the list but was this ever implemented? It was never implemented and I doubt if it has ever been on the list. In order for this to work, the K3 would have to decode your manual sending. When sending with a paddle, it generates the text itself from paddle closures so no decoding is necessary. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.g4ilo.com/blog.html G4ILO's Bloghttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%3A-send-RTTY-using-KEY-IN--tp2328715p2329236.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: send RTTY using KEY IN?
It was never implemented and I doubt if it has ever been on the list. In order for this to work, the K3 would have to decode your manual sending. When sending with a paddle, it generates the text itself from paddle closures so no decoding is necessary. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. Julian, the paddle generates only dots and dashes, so the decoding is necessary anyway. But this is not a problem, after K3 has decoding capability. 73 Val, LZ1VB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: send RTTY using KEY IN?
Val-12 wrote: Julian, the paddle generates only dots and dashes, so the decoding is necessary anyway. But this is not a problem, after K3 has decoding capability. Yes, but it can quickly work out what the character is from the dots and dashes. With hand-sent morse it has to figure out what is a dot and what is a dash. This is the hard part, the reason why decoders don't work so well on hand sent morse. Yes, the K3 has decoding capability that works on audio from the receiver. Wiring that up (or the software equivalent) so it works from input from the key socket as well is not as trivial as it may seem to someone who is not the rig designer. Believe me. I asked pretty much the same question a while ago when I wondered why the K3 decoder could not display the code I was sending from the straight key, as it does with the paddle, and that was what I was told. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.g4ilo.com/blog.html G4ILO's Bloghttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%3A-send-RTTY-using-KEY-IN--tp2328715p2329639.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: send RTTY using KEY IN?
While such a capability would be nice to have in an emergency, there are much better tools to allow one to operate RTTY... like MMTTY which is free to download. I would suggest a review of AA5AU's excellent RTTY tutorial web site for details: http://www.aa5au.com/rtty.html 73, Bob W5OV (NJ5DX in WPX RTTY) -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: send RTTY using KEY IN? Val-12 wrote: Julian, the paddle generates only dots and dashes, so the decoding is necessary anyway. But this is not a problem, after K3 has decoding capability. Yes, but it can quickly work out what the character is from the dots and dashes. With hand-sent morse it has to figure out what is a dot and what is a dash. This is the hard part, the reason why decoders don't work so well on hand sent morse. Yes, the K3 has decoding capability that works on audio from the receiver. Wiring that up (or the software equivalent) so it works from input from the key socket as well is not as trivial as it may seem to someone who is not the rig designer. Believe me. I asked pretty much the same question a while ago when I wondered why the K3 decoder could not display the code I was sending from the straight key, as it does with the paddle, and that was what I was told. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.g4ilo.com/blog.html G4ILO's Bloghttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%3A-send-RTTY-using-KEY-IN--tp2328715p2329639.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: send RTTY using KEY IN?
OK...so we can send RTTY using the paddle in. What about sending RTTY using the KEY IN (as in, use an outboard contest program to send CW and have the K3 convert it to RY). I know that this was supposed to be on the list but was this ever implemented? Tnx Doug __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Sending RTTY from the paddle
I haven't tried this myself but have seen somebody else do it. Does anyone know if it is possible to send CW from say a laptop and to be transmitted as RTTY.. Couple of weeks ago I was on vacation in EA8 and ran my microham unit with a laptop running win-test in expedition mode into my K3. I would liked to have worked the TS7C who were loud with me on rtty, after all I could copy them on the LCD readout of the K3. I did not have a paddle with me but sent CW from the laptop keyboard. I tried to get it to send RTTY but only got a tone I assume if one is using the internal keyer of the K3 you may only input CW via a paddle? Tom GM4FDM For anybody interested my EA8/GM4FDM log is on LOTW --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090127-0, 27/01/2009 Tested on: 27/01/2009 22:25:17 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Sending RTTY from the paddle
I haven't tried this myself but have seen somebody else do it. Does anyone know if it is possible to send CW from say a laptop and to be transmitted as RTTY.. Currently, you must use the paddle inputs on the K3 to use the CW - RTTY feature. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Sending RTTY from the paddle
I haven't tried this myself but have seen somebody else do it. Does anyone know if it is possible to send CW from say a laptop and to be transmitted as RTTY.. Currently, you must use the paddle inputs on the K3 to use the CW - RTTY feature. However, K3 Utility has a terminal function which can be used for RTTY (and PSK31 as well as CW) if you have a computer attached to your K3. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Sending RTTY from the paddle
Lyle Johnson wrote: However, K3 Utility has a terminal function which can be used for RTTY (and PSK31 as well as CW) if you have a computer attached to your K3. My program KComm can also send PSK31 and RTTY (and CW) from the keyboard using the same method. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-Eham.net-K3-review-by-QRPNEW-tp2218086p2228848.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Sending RTTY from the paddle
Tom Wylie wrote: I haven't tried this myself but have seen somebody else do it. Does anyone know if it is possible to send CW from say a laptop and to be transmitted as RTTY.. Couple of weeks ago I was on vacation in EA8 and ran my microham unit with a laptop running win-test in expedition mode into my K3. I would liked to have worked the TS7C who were loud with me on rtty, after all I could copy them on the LCD readout of the K3. I did not have a paddle with me but sent CW from the laptop keyboard. I tried to get it to send RTTY but only got a tone Win-Test integrates (to some degree, at least) with MMTTY. I don't know if it works in DXpedition mode, but it'd be worth a try... ~Iain ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operation-RTTY RU and 160M contest
My result? Probably #2 World, #1 USA, and a new USA SOHP record. Put me down as another greatly satisfied K3 user. Dennis W1UE I highly enjoyed the K3 as well. Looks like K3's are in #1 World SOHP (P49X), #1 USA SOHP (W1UE), and #1 USA SOLP (WE9V). (All claimed.) Chad WE9V ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operation-RTTY RU and 160M contest
Put me down as another satisfied K3 user and soon to be owner. I used a K3 in the ARRL 160M contest. I had S9+ stations 200Hz up and 200Hz down, and the only way I knew they were there was when someone occasionally called them off frequency. I didn't play much with the controls- first major contest using a K3 as the Xcvr, so I kept it simple. For the ARRL RU, I used a pair of K3s in FSK D mode. Again, performance was superb- there were many signals decoded and worked that could not be heard. I experimented a little more, changing passband and using the RTTY filters off an on. I found that the RTTY filter sometimes narrowed the bandpass too much- turning it off actually improved copy on some signals. My only complaint was that the RIT seemed to be turned off from time to time without me doing it; I was never able to figure out how it was being done, but it happened enough on the two radios that it wasn't my imagination. This was using two K3s, MK2R+, N1MM, and MMTTY plug-in. My result? Probably #2 World, #1 USA, and a new USA SOHP record. Put me down as another greatly satisfied K3 user. I ordered my K3 this morning. Dennis W1UE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operation-RTTY RU and 160M contest
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 operation-RTTY RU and 160M contest My result? Probably #2 World, #1 USA, and a new USA SOHP record. Good thing you're closer to Europe then Louisiana. ;-) Charlie KI5XP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 UTILITY RTTY
I have been working RTTY for the first time using the K3 Utility and boy is it ever easy! Almost too easy! Takes the challenge out! Anyway, my question is In RTTY mode, FSK D I am seeing K3 commands in the TEXT RECEIVED window when I send. For example: ;AE6GKY0;C AEKY0;6GCKY0 I also see commands when I tune showing VFO A and B's frequency. Is this normal? It is kind of distracting! Jack AE6GC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 UTILITY RTTY
Try setting Auto Info (AI) off. From the command tester window, type AI0; (don't forget the semicolon)You may have AI1 for something like a SteppIR controller or perhaps another logging program left the rig in AI2 or AI1 mode. In auto info mode, the K3 sends data to the connected program whenever you change frequency. The insertion of the commands is because somehow you've managed to trigger my diagnostic spew. Try pressing CTRL-W to see if that stops it. Dick, K6KR From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jack Regan Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:10 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 UTILITY RTTY I have been working RTTY for the first time using the K3 Utility and boy is it ever easy! Almost too easy! Takes the challenge out! Anyway, my question is In RTTY mode, FSK D I am seeing K3 commands in the TEXT RECEIVED window when I send. For example: ;AE6GKY0;C AEKY0;6GCKY0 I also see commands when I tune showing VFO A and B's frequency. Is this normal? It is kind of distracting! Jack AE6GC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 UTILITY RTTY
Dick Thanks for the tips. Sending AI0 from the COMMAND TESTER panel stopped the K3 commands from echoing. CTRL W turns on and off the KY debug display. At least it sez so, in red on the screen. It does not seem to stop the K3 command echo by itself. Thanks again to ... Dick, K6KR _ From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jack Regan Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:10 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 UTILITY RTTY I have been working RTTY for the first time using the K3 Utility and boy is it ever easy! Almost too easy! Takes the challenge out! Anyway, my question is In RTTY mode, FSK D I am seeing K3 commands in the TEXT RECEIVED window when I send. For example: ;AE6GKY0;C AEKY0;6GCKY0 I also see commands when I tune showing VFO A and B's frequency. Is this normal? It is kind of distracting! Jack AE6GC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops?
Today, PZ5TT was on 17 RTTY working split...I set up to accomodate 3 up but when trying to send with my paddle, it would not key the rig nor transmit. My 'workaround' was to use the A/B switch and work my timing so he would see my 'print'have I missed something? When using VFO B, I cant use the paddle to send RTTY? I have also found that after finishing keying with the paddle, the diddle continues for about 3 sec unless I tap XMIT to immediately stop... 73 Tom CX7TT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops with paddle?
Today, PZ5TT was on 17 RTTY working split...I set up to accomodate 3 up but when trying to send with my paddle, it would not key the rig nor transmit. My 'workaround' was to use the A/B switch and work my timing so he would see my 'print'have I missed something? When using VFO B, I cant use the paddle to send RTTY? I have also found that after finishing keying with the paddle, the diddle continues for about 3 sec unless I tap XMIT to immediately stop... 73 Tom CX7TT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops with paddle?
Today, PZ5TT was on 17 RTTY working split...I set up to accomodate 3 up but when trying to send with my paddle, it would not key the rig nor transmit. My 'workaround' was to use the A/B switch and work my timing so he would see my 'print'have I missed something? When using VFO B, I cant use the paddle to send RTTY? I have also found that after finishing keying with the paddle, the diddle continues for about 3 sec unless I tap XMIT to immediately stop... 73 Tom CX7TT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops?
Split FSK-D from the paddles is a bug that Wayne has on the list to fix. The diddle prior to crossing over to RX is 4 seconds. If using your paddle you send IM as a prosign just like you would send SK it will stop TX. Also, if you save CW messages and end them with the IM prosign they will not send the prosign in CW but it will switch to RX at the end without the 4 second delay. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Wed Nov 26 14:59 , TMorton sent: Today, PZ5TT was on 17 RTTY working split...I set up to accomodate 3 up but when trying to send with my paddle, it would not key the rig nor transmit. My 'workaround' was to use the A/B switch and work my timing so he would see my 'print'have I missed something? When using VFO B, I cant use the paddle to send RTTY? I have also found that after finishing keying with the paddle, the diddle continues for about 3 sec unless I tap XMIT to immediately stop... 73 Tom CX7TT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops with paddle?
...I have also found that after finishing keying with the paddle, the diddle continues for about 3 sec unless I tap XMIT to immediately stop... Send the prosign 'IM' to immediately end the transmission. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops with paddle?
...I have also found that after finishing keying with the paddle, the diddle continues for about 3 sec unless I tap XMIT to immediately stop... Send the prosign 'IM' to immediately end the transmission. Yes, and another tip is to use the K3 memories to store messages for your call sign and exchange (with 'IM' at the end) which is easier than trying to send CW at 60 wpm to keep up with the RTTY output! Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops?
Today, PZ5TT was on 17 RTTY working split...I set up to accomodate 3 up but when trying to send with my paddle, it would not key the rig nor transmit. My 'workaround' was to use the A/B switch and work my timing so he would see my 'print'have I missed something? When using VFO B, I cant use the paddle to send RTTY? This was fixed in MCU 2.60. Here is an excerpt from the release notes document: MCU 2.60 / DSP 1.94, 10-29-2008 * SPLIT operation is now allowed in FSK-D, PSK-D, and CW-in-SSB modes. Ed ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops?
Ed, This was fixed in MCU 2.60. Here is an excerpt from the release notes document: MCU 2.60 / DSP 1.94, 10-29-2008 That's not in the public code line and does not work with the public beta (MCU 2.67 / DSP 1.96, 1118-2008). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Muns Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:35 PM To: 'TMorton' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Split Rtty ops? Today, PZ5TT was on 17 RTTY working split...I set up to accomodate 3 up but when trying to send with my paddle, it would not key the rig nor transmit. My 'workaround' was to use the A/B switch and work my timing so he would see my 'print'have I missed something? When using VFO B, I cant use the paddle to send RTTY? This was fixed in MCU 2.60. Here is an excerpt from the release notes document: MCU 2.60 / DSP 1.94, 10-29-2008 * SPLIT operation is now allowed in FSK-D, PSK-D, and CW-in-SSB modes. Ed ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
