Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

If its junk than its junk no matter who likes it or hates it. If it is proven 
to work as well as indicated, independently, verified, then we have questions 
to ask.


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On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 6:58 PM  wrote:


> John just remember how things were less than a year ago, even concerning 
> medical science and public practice of such. Medical scientists were banned 
> from Facebook and Twitter just for putting for research.
 Like doctor Stella Immanuel? Her "research" was given Trump's seal of approval 
in a tweet, and her "research" concluded that neither masks nor shutdowns are 
necessary to fight the pandemic, her "research" also concluded that 
hydroxychloroquine is a “cure for covid”, and gynecological issues are the 
result of having sex with witches and demons (succubi and incubi) in dreams, 
and Endometriosis, infertility, miscarriages and sexually transmitted 
infections are caused by “evil deposits from the spirit husband”. Her 
"research" indicated that DNA from space aliens is currently being used in 
medicine, and a witch who works for the illuminati has a plan to destroy the 
world with a combanation of abortion, gay marriage, and children’s toys. Trump 
called Stella Immanuel a "spectacular, well respected doctor". Stella 
Immanuel's "research" has not been peer reviewed.


 > Now we have this in the last couple of days. Study shows hydroxychloroquine 
 > and zinc treatments increased coronavirus survival rate by almost three 
 > timeshttps://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html


Spudie, that study was not peer reviewed, but there have been many reports that 
HAVE been peer reviewed and they come to the exact opposite conclusion.    

 > Thus, because of ideology and perhaps bribery, the discussion was shut down 
on the veracity, till now, till orange man sailed into the sunset. 

What the hell are you talking about? Crackpots publish their theories on 
Facebook and Twitter, but scientists publish their results in peer reviewed 
scientific journals. And Spud, this is the second lunatic conspiracy theory 
you've advanced in the last two days, the first was your idea that the leaders 
of China were mad at the Hong Kong protesters so they figured the best way to 
punish them is to engineer a new deadly virus and release it in the mainland 
Chinese city of Wuhan that had zero protesters and was 571 miles from Hong Kong 
apparently in the belief that a huge plague would foster a nationwide feeling 
of calm and contentment. 
John K Clark  See what's on my new list at   Extropolis
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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Well, said, it either works well or it doesn't, it is either truth or lying by 
exaggeration? Now, if the study gets corroborated then we start to ask, who 
would benefit from more deaths that could have been prevented? If it is all 
nonsense, then its ideology leading medicine, like eugenics, or Lysenko under 
Stalin.


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 On 6/10/2021 3:58 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
 
John just remember how things were less than a year ago, even concerning 
medical science and public practice of such.  Medical scientists were banned 
from Facebook and Twitter just for putting for research. Now we have this in 
the last couple of days.   
Study shows hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatments increased coronavirus 
survival rate by almost three times
 
https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html
  Thus, because of ideology and perhaps bribery, the discussion was shut down 
on the veracity, till now, till orange man sailed into the sunset. 

 Or because everybody knew that the orange turd just pulled that idea out 
something he heard in the hallway and had no empirical evidence.  How do we 
know this.  We know because at the same time he also suggested drinking bleach.
 
 
   
  We need to be careful to remember that even the best scientists get swayed by 
their own prejudices, allegiances, and self interests.  Consider orang man 
being correct in that he was informed by somebody medical and took this himself 
and he helped him. Consider that even a broken mechanical clock is correct 
twice a day.   
 
 And it's wrong almost all the time.
 
 Brent
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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 6:58 PM  wrote:

*> John just remember how things were less than a year ago, even concerning
> medical science and public practice of such.  *
> *Medical scientists were banned from Facebook and Twitter just for putting
> for research.*
>

Like doctor Stella Immanuel? Her "research" was given Trump's seal of
approval in a tweet, and her "research" concluded that neither masks nor
shutdowns are necessary to fight the pandemic, her "research" also
concluded that hydroxychloroquine is a “*cure for covid*”, and
gynecological issues are the result of having sex with witches and demons
(succubi and incubi) in dreams, and Endometriosis, infertility,
miscarriages and sexually transmitted infections are caused by “*evil
deposits from the spirit husband*”. Her "research" indicated that DNA from
space aliens is currently being used in medicine, and a witch who works for
the illuminati has a plan to destroy the world with a combanation of
abortion, gay marriage, and children’s toys. Trump called Stella Immanuel a
"*spectacular, well respected doctor*". Stella Immanuel's "research" has
not been peer reviewed.

> *Now we have this in the last couple of days. **Study shows
> hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatments increased coronavirus survival rate
> by almost three times*
>
> *https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html
> 
> *
>

Spudie, that study was not peer reviewed, but there have been many reports
that HAVE been peer reviewed and they come to the exact opposite
conclusion.

 > *Thus, because of ideology and perhaps bribery, the discussion was shut
> down on the veracity, till now, till orange man sailed into the sunset. *


What the hell are you talking about? Crackpots publish their theories on
Facebook and Twitter, but scientists publish their results in peer reviewed
scientific journals. And Spud, this is the second lunatic conspiracy theory
you've advanced in the last two days, the first was your idea that the
leaders of China were mad at the Hong Kong protesters so they figured the
best way to punish them is to engineer a new deadly virus and release it in
the mainland Chinese city of Wuhan that had zero protesters and was 571
miles from Hong Kong apparently in the belief that a huge plague would
foster a nationwide feeling of calm and contentment.

John K Clark  See what's on my new list at   Extropolis


lau 2

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 6/10/2021 3:58 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
John just remember how things were less than a year ago, even 
concerning medical science and public practice of such.
Medical scientists were banned from Facebook and Twitter just for 
putting for research. Now we have this in the last couple of days.



  Study shows hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatments increased
  coronavirus survival rate by almost three times

https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html
Thus, because of ideology and perhaps bribery, the discussion was shut 
down on the veracity, till now, till orange man sailed into the sunset.


Or because everybody knew that the orange turd just pulled that idea out 
something he heard in the hallway and had no empirical evidence.  How do 
we know this.  We know because at the same time he also suggested 
drinking bleach.




We need to be careful to remember that even the best scientists get 
swayed by their own prejudices, allegiances, and self interests.
Consider orang man being correct in that he was informed by somebody 
medical and took this himself and he helped him. Consider that even a 
broken mechanical clock is correct twice a day.


And it's wrong almost all the time.

Brent

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

John just remember how things were less than a year ago, even concerning 
medical science and public practice of such. Medical scientists were banned 
from Facebook and Twitter just for putting for research. Now we have this in 
the last couple of days. 
Study shows hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatments increased coronavirus 
survival rate by almost three times
https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html
Thus, because of ideology and perhaps bribery, the discussion was shut down on 
the veracity, till now, till orange man sailed into the sunset. 
We need to be careful to remember that even the best scientists get swayed by 
their own prejudices, allegiances, and self interests. Consider orang man being 
correct in that he was informed by somebody medical and took this himself and 
he helped him. Consider that even a broken mechanical clock is correct twice a 
day.
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:48 AM  wrote:


John, I could provide many examples of censorship. 

You claim you could provide "many examples" of corporate censorship, and yet 
despite my many many requests you can't provide a single one.  I remember when 
I was a kid I'd be arguing with a fellow kid and he'd say "there are a million 
reasons your idea won't work" and I'd say "name one" and he'd say "there are so 
many reasons I can't name one". It's been a while since I heard an argument 
that juvenile. 

> you're ideologically left, ahem! Not really a small l, Libertarian.

How do you figure that? I'm a firm believer in capitalism and the free market, 
but the left doesn't. That's why for most of my life I was a registered 
Republican, I was a member of the party of Lincoln, but then about 15 years ago 
the Republicans started to go stupid. The straw that broke the camel's back for 
me came in 2011 when they started openly talking about defaulting on the 
national debt (which would've been a worldwide economic Chernobyl) and they 
came within 45 minutes of actually doing so by refusing to extend the debt 
ceiling.  The very next day I changed my party affiliation from Republican to 
Democrat, and since 2011 the party has become even stupider, much much 
stupider. 
The conventional 1-D left-right distinction is insufficient to describe one's 
political beliefs, you need 2 more axis, libertarian-totalitarian, and 
smart-stupid. The political landscape cannot be put on a line, it's a 3-D 
volume.      

> I would say screw it, let all voices be heard, uncensored.

Unless one of those voices actually describes screwing. I haven't forgotten 
your affection for the decency act and your demonization of corporations for 
spending "oligarch money" to defend the first amendment from religious right 
wing nut jobs. 

> In response to your complaint, here is a Wiki list of those banned from Jack 
> Dorsey's Twitter [...] 

Thanks for the link but I already know how to use Wikipedia. And Jack Dorsey 
not wanting HIS PLATFORM used to peddle blatant lies that are killing people is 
NOT an example of corporate censorship! How many people has Jack Dorsey 
executed for saying something he doesn't like, how many people has he tortured, 
how many people has he imprisoned, how many fines has he been able to impose? 
ZERO. Only governments havethe power to do those things. You have a perfect 
right to say anything you like, but I have a perfect right not to help you do 
so in a louder voice if I don't want to.   


> Here's a Guardian article concerning FaceBook [...]

I don't want you to give me a Guardian article about Facebook, I want you did 
give me a specific example of a corporation engaging in censorship. Just one 
goddamn example! 
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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 6/10/2021 2:13 PM, John Clark wrote:



On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:28 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> wrote:


/> Here's a more comprehensive estimate in terms of jobs that will
be taken by AI./


That's why I had to modify my former strict libertarian views and why 
right wingers need to modify their total opposition to any form of 
welfare when AI destroys the link between human toil and wealth 
production that has existed since the species evolved. Any other 
position is just not tenable  because billions of unemployed and 
unemployable people are going to refuse to starve to death without 
making a fuss.


Of course part of that link was already broken by the industrial 
revolution, which greatly reduced the manual labor that went into food 
production, clothing, transportation,...  Instead of government welfare 
we created middle management and accountants.


Brent

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:28 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> Here's a more comprehensive estimate in terms of jobs that will be taken
> by AI.*


That's why I had to modify my former strict libertarian views and why right
wingers need to modify their total opposition to any form of welfare when
AI destroys the link between human toil and wealth production that has
existed since the species evolved. Any other position is just not tenable
 because billions of unemployed and unemployable people are going to refuse
to starve to death without making a fuss.

John K Clark  See what's on my new list at   Extropolis


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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:56 PM  wrote:

*> I suspect but have no means of proving that machine intelligence
> managing aspects of society, might be a upwards?Another path would
> seemingly be answering Engels and Marx's "means of production," paradigm,
> but building advanced machinery to produce everything. We may eventually
> get K. Eric Drexler's nanofabrication to achieve this, but the way forward
> seems to simply be general advances with 3D printing.  *
>

I agree with all of that, and that's why my political views have changed
somewhat. I always knew my rather strict libertarian philosophy would need
to be modified when the singularity approached, and right wingers such as
yourself would need to modify their dogma even more, but the singularity
seemed such a distant thing I didn't need to worry about it. But now it
doesn't seem quite so distant.

A recent survey was conducted by the University of Oxford of 352 prominent
AI researchers, this is the average prediction on when they think AI will
outperform humans at various tasks:

Translate languages better than humans = 2024
Write high school level essays better than human high schoolers = 2026
Drive trucks better than humans = 2027
Work in retail = 2031
Write books = 2049
Perform surgery = 2053
Be better than humans at everything = 2062

*> On the Trump attack assertion it seems unlikely, and it seems unlikely
> because way get a puny 1000 fools showing up, *
>

By the way, several months before the 2016 presidential election I publicly
predicted on another list that if Trump won in 2016 he would not leave the
presidency peacefully in 2020, or ever, regardless of what the constitution
says or how elections turn out. And my prediction was proven to be correct.
I will now publicly make another prediction, if Trump decides to run and
wins in 2024 he will be president for life, and when he dies Donald Trump
Junior will become the new fascist dictator.

> *Trump's comedic timing is one of the best I have ever seen,*
>

You and I have very different ideas about humor.

> *if you've ever listened to his opening one-liners, which I doubt you
> have.*
>

Actually I have listened to them but to me Trump's "jokes" are like
listening to chalk screeching on a blackboard and I have to restrain myself
from throwing something through my TV. It's interesting, although I've seen
Trump struggle in an attempt to produce a facsimile of a human smile I have
never once seen the man laugh.


> *> Anarcho-Capitalism seems interesting, yet you'll need to cite some
> examples for that being a success?*
>

Yes that is its weakness, nothing even close to it has ever even been tried
so there is no experimental confirmation of the whole, only  bits and
pieces of it. But I really think it would probably work if we were starting
from scratch, but we're not and that is a more serious weakness; so much
existing social infrastructure would have to be scrapped to get to
Anarcho-Capitalism it's probably impossible, or improbable, to get there
before the AI singularity. And of course nobody knows what social structure
will work after the singularity, there is no way to even know if there will
still be humans around to form social structures.
John K Clark  See what's on my new list at   Extropolis


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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

I suspect but have no means of proving that machine intelligence managing 
aspects of society, might be a upwards? Another path would seemingly be 
answering Engels and Marx's "means of production," paradigm, but building 
advanced machinery to produce everything. We may eventually get K. Eric 
Drexler's nanofabrication to achieve this, but the way forward seems to simply 
be general advances with 3D printing.  
On the Trump attack assertion it seems unlikely, and it seems unlikely because 
way get a puny 1000 fools showing up, when he could've got 10 million? He could 
have sent out the word, get em boys, and that would have been that. Trump's 
comedic timing is one of the best I have ever seen, if you've ever listened to 
his opening one-liners, which I doubt you have. Anarcho-Capitalism seems 
interesting, yet you'll need to cite some examples for that being a success?
The biggest successful economic action seems to be The Miracle of Worgl in 
Austria, where the locals printed their own money for public works. From a 
Germna point of view, who needs Adolf if you have work?A Free Money Miracle? | 
Mises Institute

Wörgl - Wikipedia



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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:12 AM  wrote: 
 > I am very good with capitalism, 

Me too.  Socialism won't work unless everybody is a saint, and that's why 
socialists in their natural environment are always observed to be in a constant 
state of righteous indignation; people just aren't behaving the way he wants 
then to behave and as they must behave for his system to function. In general I 
can only think of 3 ways to get anybody to do anything, force, love, or trade. 
I think most of us would agree that all else being equal force is the least 
desirable of the three. Love is very nice and it works for some things but any 
economic system that must rely on people loving each other is just not going to 
work. So unless somebody knows of a fourth way that I haven't thought of there 
is only one thing left. The farmer grows my food, the trucker moves my food and 
the grocer sells my food, I didn't make them do it and none of these people 
love me, yet the free market plunges them into a conspiracy to put food on my 
table. Capitalism can efficiently create wealth even if everybody is just 
looking out for themselves, I know of no other economic system that can do that.

> not what is termed Crony Capitalism, otherwise know as oligarchy. 

You have a problem with the law of conservation of energy, and that is not a 
law a parliament or even Big Brother can repeal, if you push down the power in 
one area the power just migrates to another place. If you don't like 
corporations because you think they have too much power the only thing that can 
get rid of them is something that has even more power, so instead of several 
hundred moderately powerful entities you have just one overwhelmingly powerful 
one. I don't see how that is an improvement.  You still approve of Donald Trump 
even after he organized an attack on the capital to overturn a democratic 
election so you don't believe elected officials should be in charge of that 
overwhelmingly powerful entity, so who should be? You? Donald Trump? Big 
Brother?  

> My fix for everything is technology, applied science, engineering. [...] "Tag 
> the criminal, not the citizen." If one is a violent thug, persecute them by 
> monitoring them with a chip. If they aren't acting better, to the jug they go.

You're just talking about law-enforcement and that's the easy part, what I want 
to know is who makes the laws, who decides what is legal and what is illegal?  


> So that is what I would do. 

This is what I would do if we were starting from scratch which we are not; I 
would suggest Anarcho-Capitalism, I think it would be superior to democracy, 
but unfortunately we are not starting from scratch so it would be very 
difficult to get to there from here;  but don't let the word "anarchy" scare 
you, it just means lack of government. Chaos necessarily implies anarchy but 
anarchy does not necessarily imply chaos.

Good laws are no different from anything else, if you want to maximize 
something then make it a commodity and sell it on the free market. But nobody 
does that for laws very much, that's why there are far more good cars than good 
laws. In a world with minimal or no government Privately Produced Law (PPL) 
would have Private Protection Agencies (PPA) to back them up. Disputes among 
PPA's would be settled by an independent arbitrator agreed to by both parties 
BEFORE the disagreement happened. Something like that can exist today. When 
companies sign complicated contracts they sometimes also agree on who will 
arbitrate it if a difference in in

Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:12 AM  wrote:


> > *I am very good with capitalism, *
>

Me too.  Socialism won't work unless everybody is a saint, and that's why
socialists in their natural environment are always observed to be in a
constant state of righteous indignation; people just aren't behaving the
way he wants then to behave and as they must behave for his system to
function. In general I can only think of 3 ways to get anybody to do
anything, force, love, or trade. I think most of us would agree that all
else being equal force is the least desirable of the three. Love is very
nice and it works for some things but any economic system that must rely on
people loving each other is just not going to work. So unless somebody
knows of a fourth way that I haven't thought of there is only one thing
left. The farmer grows my food, the trucker moves my food and the grocer
sells my food, I didn't make them do it and none of these people love me,
yet the free market plunges them into a conspiracy to put food on my table.
Capitalism can efficiently create wealth even if everybody is just looking
out for themselves, I know of no other economic system that can do that.

*> not what is termed Crony Capitalism, otherwise know as oligarchy. *
>

You have a problem with the law of conservation of energy, and that is not
a law a parliament or even Big Brother can repeal, if you push down the
power in one area the power just migrates to another place. If you don't
like corporations because you think they have too much power the only thing
that can get rid of them is something that has even more power, so instead
of several hundred moderately powerful entities you have just one
overwhelmingly powerful one. I don't see how that is an improvement.  You
still approve of Donald Trump even after he organized an attack on the
capital to overturn a democratic election so you don't believe elected
officials should be in charge of that overwhelmingly powerful entity, so
who should be? You? Donald Trump? Big Brother?


> *> My fix for everything is technology, applied science, engineering.*
> [...] *"Tag the criminal, not the citizen." If one is a violent thug,
> persecute them by monitoring them with a chip. If they aren't acting
> better, to the jug they go.*
>

You're just talking about law-enforcement and that's the easy part, what I
want to know is who makes the laws, who decides what is legal and what is
illegal?

*> **So that is what I would do. *
>

This is what I would do if we were starting from scratch which we are not; I
would suggest Anarcho-Capitalism, I think it would be superior to
democracy, but unfortunately we are not starting from scratch so it would
be very difficult to get to there from here;  but don't let the word
"anarchy" scare you, it just means lack of government. Chaos necessarily
implies anarchy but anarchy does not necessarily imply chaos.

Good laws are no different from anything else, if you want to maximize
something then make it a commodity and sell it on the free market. But
nobody does that for laws very much, that's why there are far more good
cars than good laws. In a world with minimal or no government Privately
Produced Law (PPL) would have Private Protection Agencies (PPA) to back
them up. Disputes among PPA's would be settled by an independent arbitrator
agreed to by both parties BEFORE the disagreement happened. Something like
that can exist today. When companies sign complicated contracts they
sometimes also agree on who will arbitrate it if a difference in
interpretation happen because nobody wants to get caught up in the slow,
expensive court system run by governments.

The arbitrator is paid by the case, and because he is picked by both sides,
it's in his interest to be as just as possible. If he favored one side
over another
or made brutal or stupid decisions he would not be picked again and would
need to look for a new line of work. Unlike present day judges and juries,
justice would have a positive survival value for the arbitrator.

All parties would have a reason to avoid violence if possible. The
disputing parties would not want to turn their front yard into a war zone,
and violence is expensive. The successful protection agencies would be more
interested in making money than in saving face. Most of the time this would
work so I expect the total level of violence to be less than in the nation
state system we have now, but I'm not such a utopian as to suggest it will
drop to zero. Even when force is not used the implicit threat is always
there, another good reason to be civilized.

Please note I'm not talking about justice only for the rich. If a rich
man's PPA makes unreasonable demands (beatings, sidewalk justice, I insist
on my mother being the arbiter if I get into trouble, etc) it's going to
need one hell of a lot of firepower to back it up. That kind of army is
expensive because of the hardware needed and because of the very high wages
it will need to pay its employees for an 

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[Philip Benjamin]

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[Philip Benjamin]
A stupefying conundrum for the WAMP? (Defined elsewhere below).
 Next time when WAMP-the-Ingrates (i.e. some scientists and academics, some 
politicians, all atheists, Marxist- Socialist-Fascists, most tycoons, some poor 
and illiterate etc.) enjoy their pleasure and leisure on the weekends of 7-Day 
Week, or paid Sabbatical Vacation Year,  thank Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) 
Elohim (uni-plural) of the Scriptures (with Patriarchal, Prophetic, Apostolic 
imprimatur). Because, Sabbath and Sabbaticals are purely and singularly 
Scriptural mandates. Nowhere else are these found!
 Is WAMP-the-Ingrate stealing beneficiary of the Augustinian Trust?  Here 
is one example: It is ingratitude at least for having 7-day weeks with 2-day 
weekends and the Sabbaticals which, unlike months and years, have no planetary, 
lunar or solar basis, but only Scriptural decrees. There is no way for Moses to 
have arbitrarily figured that out!! It has no mention in any other culture. The 
early church was100% Jewish. It will take an earthshaking event such as 
Resurrection to synagogue/gather"  on the First Day of the Week instead of the 
7- th-- (Acts 20:7) in order to " break bread".
[Philip Benjamin]

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SALON. 6-4-21. Alan D. Blotcky Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist in Birmingham, 
Alabama..https://www.salon.com/2021/06/04/one-thing-trump-destroyed-we-should-be-happy-about-the-goldwater-rule-bites-the-dust/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2F2021%2F06%2F04%2Fone-thing-trump-destroyed-we-should-be-happy-about-the-goldwater-rule-bites-the-dust%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C5901bcd70df94ca9e57b08d929a6c14f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637586618448533281%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=JvYw%2F2XK7LHrNQs6qgHmdgLVYUZk08Ti2XzIa94xrEk%3D=0>
  "The overarching purpose of the press is to keep in the spotlight every 
deliberation and decision that is made in our government. The press is the 
watchdog of our elected officials... Because a free press is indispensable to 
democracy. We depend on it to inform, to explain, to interpret and, yes, to 
warn. To a large degree, that is what separates us from authoritarian regimes 
and "managed" pseudo-democracies "
  [Philip Benjamin]
   This is WAMP-ology 101 (defined below). Marxist Paganism wants to 
condemn all dissenters as psychological abnormalities if they try to restore 
Constitutional Republicanism which is a byproduct of an "AWAKENED" culture! 
(https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine) After 24/7 
incessant pejoratives against 74+ million bona fide citizens with awakened 
(Augustinian) consciousnesses for over 4 years, WAMP-the-Ingrate ( see notes 
below) has finally discovered that "some-things may be true even if Donald 
Trump said them". If America is racist (because of the global bane of Slave 
Traffic- human traffic still in vogue), why races of all genera ALWAYS and 
still want to emigrate en masse to this once Puritan America?  There are "Life 
issues" never discussed by Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism) [WAMP]: The Marxist 
pagans with  un-awakened consciousness are forgetting William Wilberforce and 
others who for the FIRST TIME in human history abolished Slavery and Slave 
Trade by law.
   Is consciousness an ENDOWMENT or EVOLVEMENT in the physical world of 
quantum particles of fermions, quarks, dark matter and their chemistries?  If 
it is an EVOLVEMENT, what was its very first "aseitous progenitor".  Dead 
electron, proton, neutron or some combination of them? If it is an ENDOWMENT, 
who or what is the ENDOWER with aseity? The answer contributed to human 
civilizations and makes the unbridgeable difference between paganism (from the 
great pagan Egyptian to Greco Roman civilizations) & non-paganism or 
Augustinianism of Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) with 
Patriarchal, Prophetic and Apostolic imprimatur. Is there any candidate for 
science today other than 

Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:48 AM  wrote:

*John, I could provide many examples of censorship. *
>

You claim you could provide "many examples" of corporate censorship, and
yet despite my many many requests you can't provide a single one.  I
remember when I was a kid I'd be arguing with a fellow kid and he'd say
"there are a million reasons your idea won't work" and I'd say "name one"
and he'd say "there are so many reasons I can't name one". It's been a
while since I heard an argument that juvenile.

> *you're ideologically left, ahem! Not really a small l, Libertarian.*
>

How do you figure that? I'm a firm believer in capitalism and the free
market, but the left doesn't. That's why for most of my life I was a
registered Republican, I was a member of the party of Lincoln, but then
about 15 years ago the Republicans started to go stupid. The straw that
broke the camel's back for me came in 2011 when they started openly talking
about defaulting on the national debt (which would've been a worldwide
economic Chernobyl) and they came within 45 minutes of actually doing so by
refusing to extend the debt ceiling.  The very next day I changed my party
affiliation from Republican to Democrat, and since 2011 the party has
become even stupider, much much stupider.

The conventional 1-D left-right distinction is insufficient to describe
one's political beliefs, you need 2 more axis, libertarian-totalitarian,
and smart-stupid. The political landscape cannot be put on a line, it's a
3-D volume.

> *I would say screw it, let all voices be heard, uncensored*.
>

Unless one of those voices actually describes screwing. I haven't forgotten
your affection for the decency act and your demonization of corporations
for spending "oligarch money" to defend the first amendment from religious
right wing nut jobs.

> *In response to your complaint, here is a Wiki list of those banned from
> Jack Dorsey's Twitter [...] *


Thanks for the link but I already know how to use Wikipedia. And Jack
Dorsey not wanting HIS PLATFORM used to peddle blatant lies that are
killing people is NOT an example of corporate censorship! How many people
has Jack Dorsey executed for saying something he doesn't like, how many
people has he tortured, how many people has he imprisoned, how many fines
has he been able to impose? ZERO. Only governments havethe power to do
those things. You have a perfect right to say anything you like, but I have
a perfect right not to help you do so in a louder voice if I don't want to.



> > *Here's a Guardian article concerning FaceBook *[...]
>

I don't want you to give me a Guardian article about Facebook, I want you
did give me a specific example of a corporation engaging in censorship.
Just one goddamn example!

John K Clark  See what's on my new list at   Extropolis

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[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Well John as Marlon Brando once uttered in The Wild One's "what do ya got?" I 
am very good with capitalism, not what is termed Crony Capitalism, otherwise 
know as oligarchy. Wiki again...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism
Oligarchy-https://spectatorworld.com/topic/oligarchy-america-rome-athens-jeff-bezos/
My fix for everything is technology, applied science, engineering. 
Anthropogenic Global Warming? The cheapest and fastest is sun and wind, 
including wind at sea. Street crime? I don't like China's system of spying and 
conformity so I just came up with this one, "Tag the criminal, not the 
citizen." If one is a violent thug, persecute them by monitoring them with a 
chip. If they aren't acting better, to the jug they go. If they're attending 
AA, ok then, if not...  I'd try tech first before government in most cases. 
Communism, progressivism is the big mass murder of the 20th century that 
progressives (liberals who like communism) and gets a wink by these, rather 
than the nazis, who were oligarchs, but provided social services for their 
fellow aryans, and controlled their people by withholding social services in 
many cases, with, a wink and a nod from Krupp Steel. 
This is why I'd suck it up with the capitalists for a while till AI cuts in, 
perhaps quantum AI and the big Innovator of all time. Think of new places to 
live like human made (robot made) ocean islands, or space torus's? All made 
possible by AI finding shortcuts. 
So that is what I would do. But this is just one peasants' viewpoint (me) and 
so who cares what I think-thanks for asking though. Take care. 

-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: spudboy...@aol.com
Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tue, Jun 8, 2021 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo 
Dark-Matter Body

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 7:25 AM  wrote:


 > The Decency Act sounded like it was an attack on the first amendment made by 
hypocritical religious prudes who sound like they came straight  out of the 
Dark Ages, but in reality was a legal tool to protect corporate boards of 
directors from being sued by the public for censoring them.

Once more you're talking about corporations censoring people, and once more you 
are unable to give one single example of that actually happening. And I must 
say although I always knew you had issues I badly underestimated the intensity 
of your inanity so I was astounded to hear you defending something as silly as 
the decency act. You think it's terrible a corporation decides not to let a 
hack politician use their platform to pedal lethal lies, like autism is caused 
by vaccines, and Hydroxychloroquine and Clorox can cure COVID-19, and there 
were more than 7 million fraudulent votes in the last election so you should 
get angry and march on the capital; but anybody who wants to look at a naked 
female breast on the Internet should be prevented from doing so by censorship, 
and if they try to avoid that censorship they should go to prison.  


 > Often Law Fare as it is now called, is a merely a tool of the rich

Spud my boy I'm confused. You've made it clear you don't like Communism, but 
you don't like Capitalism either hence all your complaints about corporations 
and their "oligarch money". You don't like Democracy hence your support of 
Donald Trump even after he incited a violent attack on the capital in an 
unsuccessful coup d'état attempt to stay in power after he lost an election by 
7 million votes, and you don't like individuals being allowed to make decisions 
on their own about how they should live their lives thus your support for the 
decency act. So how should society organize itself, what DO you like? The only 
form of government I haven't heard you criticize is right wing fascist 
dictatorships. Is that in fact what you would prefer?     

> your once-vaunted ACLU is now ok with censorship, with the 1st amendment 
> being merely one, and the least of 15 new principles. 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/aclu-free-speech.html

I don't feel even the slightest obligation to defend the views of the ACLU, I 
only feel an obligation to defend my own views against yours, and if I am 
unable to do that then I will abandon them and adopt your views as my own; I 
have absolutely no loyalty towards ideas. If another person's idea is better 
than mine then my idea has got to go. It's called the scientific method.  But 
there's little chance of me needing to abandon my ideas in this case as your 
attack is pitiful, you can't even give me a single example of corporate 
censorship despite my many requests. John K Clark  See what's on my new 
list at   Extropolis
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[spudboy100 via Everything List]

John, I could provide many examples of censorship. Then once I offered these 
up, you'd dismiss them because you're ideologically left, ahem! Not really a 
small l, Libertarian. I list, you'd dismiss, and cheer on the oligarchy. For 
me, I would say screw it, let all voices be heard, uncensored. because the 
alternative is oligarchy and corporate and bribed politicians making laws. This 
is simply the condition for this day. In response to your complaint, here is a 
Wiki list of those banned from Jack Dorsey's Twitter or as I personally refer 
to it as Twit's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions
Here's a Guardian article concerning 
FaceBook.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/29/facebook-banned-me-because-i-am-leftwing-i-am-not-the-only-one
Now if you come back and state, "good," or "I don't care because its a private 
company and they can do as they like," ok. But then you have no argument even 
though information gets provided. But you cannot claim that it isn't happening 
or because you never heard of it means it doesn't exist. It is simply 
unimportant to you because it disagrees with your ideology. fine. E pur si 
muove, as the Italian guy once said. 


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Sent: Tue, Jun 8, 2021 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo 
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 7:25 AM  wrote:


 > The Decency Act sounded like it was an attack on the first amendment made by 
hypocritical religious prudes who sound like they came straight  out of the 
Dark Ages, but in reality was a legal tool to protect corporate boards of 
directors from being sued by the public for censoring them.

Once more you're talking about corporations censoring people, and once more you 
are unable to give one single example of that actually happening. And I must 
say although I always knew you had issues I badly underestimated the intensity 
of your inanity so I was astounded to hear you defending something as silly as 
the decency act. You think it's terrible a corporation decides not to let a 
hack politician use their platform to pedal lethal lies, like autism is caused 
by vaccines, and Hydroxychloroquine and Clorox can cure COVID-19, and there 
were more than 7 million fraudulent votes in the last election so you should 
get angry and march on the capital; but anybody who wants to look at a naked 
female breast on the Internet should be prevented from doing so by censorship, 
and if they try to avoid that censorship they should go to prison.  


 > Often Law Fare as it is now called, is a merely a tool of the rich

Spud my boy I'm confused. You've made it clear you don't like Communism, but 
you don't like Capitalism either hence all your complaints about corporations 
and their "oligarch money". You don't like Democracy hence your support of 
Donald Trump even after he incited a violent attack on the capital in an 
unsuccessful coup d'état attempt to stay in power after he lost an election by 
7 million votes, and you don't like individuals being allowed to make decisions 
on their own about how they should live their lives thus your support for the 
decency act. So how should society organize itself, what DO you like? The only 
form of government I haven't heard you criticize is right wing fascist 
dictatorships. Is that in fact what you would prefer?     

> your once-vaunted ACLU is now ok with censorship, with the 1st amendment 
> being merely one, and the least of 15 new principles. 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/aclu-free-speech.html

I don't feel even the slightest obligation to defend the views of the ACLU, I 
only feel an obligation to defend my own views against yours, and if I am 
unable to do that then I will abandon them and adopt your views as my own; I 
have absolutely no loyalty towards ideas. If another person's idea is better 
than mine then my idea has got to go. It's called the scientific method.  But 
there's little chance of me needing to abandon my ideas in this case as your 
attack is pitiful, you can't even give me a single example of corporate 
censorship despite my many requests. John K Clark  See what's on my new 
list at   Extropolis
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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 7:25 AM  wrote:

 > *The Decency Act sounded like it was an attack on the first amendment
> made by hypocritical religious prudes who sound like they came straight
> out of the Dark Ages, but in reality was a legal tool to protect corporate
> boards of directors from being sued by the public for censoring them.*
>

Once more you're talking about corporations censoring people, and once more
you are unable to give one single example of that actually happening. And I
must say although I always knew you had issues I badly underestimated the
intensity of your inanity so I was astounded to hear you defending
something as silly as the decency act. You think it's terrible a
corporation decides not to let a hack politician use their platform to
pedal lethal lies, like autism is caused by vaccines, and
Hydroxychloroquine and Clorox can cure COVID-19, and there were more than 7
million fraudulent votes in the last election so you should get angry and
march on the capital; but anybody who wants to look at a naked female
breast on the Internet should be prevented from doing so by censorship, and
if they try to avoid that censorship they should go to prison.

 > *Often Law Fare as it is now called, is a merely a tool of the rich*


Spud my boy I'm confused. You've made it clear you don't like Communism,
but you don't like Capitalism either hence all your complaints about
corporations and their "oligarch money". You don't like Democracy hence
your support of Donald Trump even after he incited a violent attack on the
capital in an unsuccessful coup d'état attempt to stay in power after he
lost an election by 7 million votes, and you don't like individuals being
allowed to make decisions on their own about how they should live their
lives thus your support for the decency act. So how should society organize
itself, what* DO* you like? The only form of government I haven't heard you
criticize is right wing fascist dictatorships. Is that in fact what you
would prefer?

*> your once-vaunted ACLU is now ok with censorship, with the 1st amendment
> being merely one, and the least of 15 new principles.  *
> *https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/aclu-free-speech.html*
> 
>

I don't feel even the slightest obligation to defend the views of the ACLU,
I only feel an obligation to defend my own views against yours, and if I am
unable to do that then I will abandon them and adopt your views as my own;
I have absolutely no loyalty towards ideas. If another person's idea is
better than mine then my idea has got to go. It's called the scientific
method.  But there's little chance of me needing to abandon my ideas in
this case as your attack is pitiful, you can't even give me a single
example of corporate censorship despite my many requests.
John K Clark  See what's on my new list at   Extropolis

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[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Ok, I am on vacation now, I can go digging perhaps? The Decency Act sounded 
like it was an attack on the first amendment made by hypocritical religious 
prudes who sound like they came straight  out of the Dark Ages, but in reality 
was a legal tool to protect corporate boards of directors from being sued by 
the public for censoring them. Remember, at least 98% of politicians are 
attorneys, and with nothing to stop them, they can call a pig an octopus and 
vise versa. This is where an act back in the 90's that sounded like something 
for the public's benefit, but was merely a way of setting up an income base for 
a new, ruling, class. The following is a claim by the NY Times that your 
once-vaunted ACLU is now ok with censorship, with the 1st amendment being 
merely one, and the least of 15 new principles. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/aclu-free-speech.htmlAh, attorneys! And 
so it flows. For a small L libertarian, this might give you some pause to 
consider, but what I do for a living is not salesmanship, so do as you see fit. 
Often Law Fare as it is now called, is a merely a tool of the rich of either of 
the prime ideologies, and as your fellow Texan Bob Smith once spake, regarding 
poker, "I believe in the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules." Be 
careful of what you wish for oligarchy-wise John, You make not like the result.


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On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:25 PM  wrote:

 

> On the so called Decency Act, just know that oligarch money travels far and 
> gets the job done. 

Then let's have three big cheers for oligarch money! If they really did that 
then they must be on the side of the enlightenment, unlike that of Trump and 
his fascist stooges. The decency act was an attack on the first amendment made 
by hypocritical religious prudes who seem to have come straight out of the dark 
ages, it is the duty of any honorable person to do all that they can to oppose 
that sort of totalitarianism. 

This law was been re-interpreted to enable billionaire media dogs to rule their 
platforms irrespective of the 1st amendment.

BULLSHIT.

> But you did ask for evidence after proclaiming that it was impossible for the 
> oligarchs to censor.

I asked for one example of that, just one example, and you were unable to 
provide a single one  

> Specifically, all you need to do is look up the names Dorsey and Zuckerberg 
> to know of this censorship, 

Specifically? Where are the specifics? I looked them up as you suggested and I 
was still unable to find a single example of corporate censorship. Not one. And 
obviously you couldn't find one either or you'd have mentioned it. Corporate 
censorship is a myth, like Bigfoot, or a Republican in office who is not a 
Trump supporter, or a Trump supporter that is honorable. John K Clark  See 
what's on my new list at   Extropolis 
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[John Clark]

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:25 PM  wrote:



>
> *> On the so called Decency Act, just know that oligarch money travels far
> and gets the job done. *
>

Then let's have three big cheers for oligarch money! If they really did
that then they must be on the side of the enlightenment, unlike that of
Trump and his fascist stooges. The decency act was an attack on the first
amendment made by hypocritical religious prudes who seem to have come
straight out of the dark ages, it is the duty of any honorable person to do
all that they can to oppose that sort of totalitarianism.

*This law was been re-interpreted to enable billionaire media dogs to rule
> their platforms irrespective of the 1st amendment.*
>

BULLSHIT.

*> But you did ask for evidence after proclaiming that it was impossible
> for the oligarchs to censor.*
>

I asked for one example of that, just one example, and you were unable to
provide a single one

*> Specifically, all you need to do is look up the names Dorsey and
> Zuckerberg to know of this censorship, *
>

Specifically? Where are the specifics? I looked them up as you suggested and
I was still unable to find a single example of corporate censorship. Not
one. And obviously you couldn't find one either or you'd have mentioned it.
Corporate censorship is a myth, like Bigfoot, or a Republican in office who
is not a Trump supporter, or a Trump supporter that is honorable.
John K Clark  See what's on my new list at   Extropolis

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[spudboy100 via Everything List]

The way I view this  is that the separation from Britain was a way for the 
White Aryans (using the old nazi phrasing) for their brethren in the United 
Kingdom, who treated them so viciously. (The Royals) that that had departed 
British shores, and then when British law was unfairly applied, infuriated the 
locals as well it should have. To wit, the Royals had long since treating their 
countrymen like shit warmed over.
The United States was a fix, specifically, for the Colonials, yes, specifically 
the large land owners to start with. Had the Royals, George the 3rd and his 
offspring treated the Yanks a bit better, I suspect Dr. Crowell, you'd be 
voting Labor, and for me, Farage. For the Blacks, the Asians, the Native 
Americans, doubtless for the Roman Catholics in Maryland, the Jews, well, we 
weren't even on the charts (speaking nautically). Then it becomes a question, 
how rapidly can you adapt. Losing two wars to the US in 1783 & 1816 had a 
salutary effect for the British people in 1832. It was just the losses to the 
US bringing changes to the UK, it was expanding UK middle class as 
well.https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/politics/g6/In the US, the 
trick was making the Founders and their descendants live up to their noble 
wordings. In the US, it also took a civil war 80 years later. The UK had sided 
with the South for the demand for cotton and tobacco, despite their rigorous 
pursuit of eliminating the slave trade, in the Atlantic, staring in 1838. 
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/politics/g6/

So what for now, what for today? All I can say professor, is that as citizens 
of this nation state we agree on nothing, not even violent criminal or police 
behavior. What happens next is anyone's guess. 



-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2021 11:28 am
Subject: Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo 
Dark-Matter Body

This is a flaw in the whole "original intent" argument. In the original intent. 
only large landowners could vote, certainly not women or non-Europeans, and 
blacks were only give 60% in the accounting for representatives.
LC

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 10:17:09 AM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

I would say that the original 1787 Constitution that permitted the 3/5 
compromise was the most sloppily written. This was the so-called compromise 
that implicitly allowed slavery. The second amendment basically scares the 
willies out of the modern progressive, who seeks to impose sort of a national 
oligarchy against an unwilling people at least the 75 million of us idiots who 
voted for the orange guy. Hence the huge push for things like CRT, and 
transgenders competing in women's sports and online media censorship and the 
control of banks by people who are of a progressive bent. I turn people of a 
progressive bent are really those sort of liberals who seem to be highly 
tolerant of Soviet socialism. Now this is even so, that they are funded by 
globalist China facing corporations. The issue sort of breaks down to the old 
Union tune which had a lyric that went something like that " which side are you 
on boy, which side are you on?"My point in that observation is that we still 
live in a nation-state age we still behave tribally and if we don't other 
tribes implicitly and explicitly will. Witness the CCP in XI China.  So until 
something changes in the world in which we all must live, something 
technological I suspect, AI is the first thing that jumps to my wee brain, we 
must dance like the puppets we are to the tune that is called by our collective 
nature's. Governments that don't go nationalist at this point in time yes even 
in the 21st century will see themselves kicked out of office at the very least 
witness what's happening in Europe. We must have something that replaces 
nationalism just as we must have something that replaces fossil fuels and 
switch over while we run things concurrently.On Friday, June 4, 2021 John Clark 
 wrote:
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
 wrote:


  > It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.  It's the 
obvious functional interpretation. 

I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent" 
interpretation.  

 > The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative extension of 
what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.


Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word "arms" is 
derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to manipulate things, and 
a linguist would also say the derivation of the word "calculus" comes from the 
Greek word for small stone or pebble, but I don't think having completed a 
study of pebbles will help you much on a calculus exam. 


>> In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms 
>> manufac

Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Lets face it John. It doesn't matter what I think, in the sense that since I am 
not an oligarch, who cares what I want? I mean if its government policies on 
what I think is best, I would have already ordered researchers, and funded 
them, to create ways of converting sea water to hydrogen to fuel civilization. 
What I want is of no concern really. 
On the so called Decency Act, just know that oligarch money travels far and 
gets the job done. This law was been re-interpreted to enable billionaire media 
dogs to rule their platforms irrespective of the 1st amendment. But you did ask 
for evidence after proclaiming that it was impossible for the oligarchs to 
censor. Specifically, all you need to do is look up the names Dorsey and 
Zuckerberg to know of this censorship, and this alone would inform you.


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2021 4:36 am
Subject: Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo 
Dark-Matter Body

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:53 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:
> On Twitter and Facebook the boards of directors paid campaign donations to 
> members of Congress to pass bills into laws that project these social media 
> platforms from being sued.
Good!  Those laws would have allowed the government to censor corporations, and 
would've allowed Big Brother to decree what you could and could not read or see 
even in the privacy of your own home.  I'm glad corporations did all they could 
to stop that from happening.  
> The most prominent of these laws is Section 230 of the Communications Decency 
> Act of 1996.

It's astonishing! You actually want the Communications Decency Act back after 
the Supreme Court unanimously ruled it was unconstitutional in 1997 because it 
infringed on freedom of speech. But of course that was before the Supreme Court 
was filled up with Trump crypto fascists. You're not complaining there's too 
much censorship, you're complaining there's two little. And if you want 
censorship, and apparently you do, it can only come from the government because 
that is the only entity that has the power to enforce censorship. 
Supreme Court Declares Communications Decency Act Unconstitutional


> You should if you get a chance to corroborate my contention. This, one is 
> constantly censored by these corporations if they disagree with your 
> statements.
You keep saying that, but you are unable to provide one single example of it 
actually happening. 
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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Lawrence Crowell]

This is a flaw in the whole "original intent" argument. In the original 
intent. only large landowners could vote, certainly not women or 
non-Europeans, and blacks were only give 60% in the accounting for 
representatives.

LC

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 10:17:09 AM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

> I would say that the original 1787 Constitution that permitted the 3/5 
> compromise was the most sloppily written. This was the so-called compromise 
> that implicitly allowed slavery. The second amendment basically scares the 
> willies out of the modern progressive, who seeks to impose sort of a 
> national oligarchy against an unwilling people at least the 75 million of 
> us idiots who voted for the orange guy. Hence the huge push for things like 
> CRT, and transgenders competing in women's sports and online media 
> censorship and the control of banks by people who are of a progressive 
> bent. I turn people of a progressive bent are really those sort of liberals 
> who seem to be highly tolerant of Soviet socialism. Now this is even so, 
> that they are funded by globalist China facing corporations. The issue sort 
> of breaks down to the old Union tune which had a lyric that went something 
> like that " which side are you on boy, which side are you on?"
>
> My point in that observation is that we still live in a nation-state age 
> we still behave tribally and if we don't other tribes implicitly and 
> explicitly will. Witness the CCP in XI China.  So until something changes 
> in the world in which we all must live, something technological I suspect, 
> AI is the first thing that jumps to my wee brain, we must dance like the 
> puppets we are to the tune that is called by our collective nature's. 
> Governments that don't go nationalist at this point in time yes even in the 
> 21st century will see themselves kicked out of office at the very least 
> witness what's happening in Europe. We must have something that replaces 
> nationalism just as we must have something that replaces fossil fuels and 
> switch over while we run things concurrently.
> --
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 John Clark  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> * > It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.  It's the 
> obvious functional interpretation. *
>
>
> I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent" 
> interpretation.  
>
>  > 
> *The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative extension of 
> what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.*
>
>
> Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word "arms" 
> is derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to manipulate 
> things, and a linguist would also say the derivation of the word 
> "calculus" comes from the Greek word for small stone or pebble, but I don't 
> think having completed a study of pebbles will help you much on a calculus 
> exam. 
>
> >> In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms 
> manufacturers and that hasn't changed. It may be absurd but that's the world 
> we live in because nuclear weapons are called "arms'', remember the SALT 
> talks from the 1970s, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? They were 
> about the reduction in the number of nuclear weapons manufactured by the US 
> and USSR.
>
>
> * > But they certainly didn't mean that in order to have well regulated 
> militia people had the right to keep and bear frigates. *
>
>
> True, it's impossible for one man to carry a frigate, but it's certainly 
> possible for one man to carry and activate a nuclear warhead, so I don't 
> see your point. I'm also surprised to hear you bring up the "well regulated 
> militia" bit because for years courts have been pretending that line didn't 
> exist in the Constitution. The only well regulated militias are state 
> national guard units, and only a tiny percentage of the population are 
> members of the national guard, but there are more privately owned guns in 
> the US than there are people in the country. And even when national guard 
> members are called to duty they don't use their personal guns, they use 
> weapons provided by the state.
>
> I think the second amendment is the most sloppily written part of the 
> constitution, and that's really saying something considering what a very 
> imperfect document it is. At least the parts about slavery are clear, 
> they're not stupid, they're just evil.  
>
> John K Clark  See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
>  
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[John Clark]

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 7:05 AM Bruno Marchal  wrote:

*> I take it as a lack of spiritual or intellectual maturity. Hardly
> avoidable when theology is out of science since so many years (1492 years
> exactly).*


Ah yes, if only we could go back to the enlightened days of 529AD when even
educated people didn't know where the sun went at night. It's amazing how
much people have to say about theology, because at least as far as this
list is concerned the study of God is exactly the same as the study of an
amorphous gray blob. And yes I know that 529 was the year Plato's academy
was shut down because it was very slightly different from the religious
franchise that was then most popular.
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[Bruno Marchal]

> On 4 Jun 2021, at 17:03, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> SALON. 6-4-21. Alan D. Blotcky Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist in 
> Birmingham, 
> Alabama..https://www.salon.com/2021/06/04/one-thing-trump-destroyed-we-should-be-happy-about-the-goldwater-rule-bites-the-dust/
>  
> <https://www.salon.com/2021/06/04/one-thing-trump-destroyed-we-should-be-happy-about-the-goldwater-rule-bites-the-dust/>
>   “The overarching purpose of the press is to keep in the spotlight every 
> deliberation and decision that is made in our government. The press is the 
> watchdog of our elected officials… Because a free press is indispensable to 
> democracy. We depend on it to inform, to explain, to interpret and, yes, to 
> warn. To a large degree, that is what separates us from authoritarian regimes 
> and "managed" pseudo-democracies…. ”
>   [Philip Benjamin]
> This is WAMP-ology 101. Marxist Paganism wants to condemn all dissenters as 
> psychological abnormalities if they try to restore Constitutional 
> Republicanism which is a byproduct of an “AWAKENED” culture! After 24/7 
> incessant pejoratives against 74+ million bona fide citizens with awakened 
> (Augustinian) consciousnesses for over 4 years, WAMP-the-Ingrate ( see notes 
> below) has finally discovered that “some-things may be true even if Donald 
> Trump said them”. The Western world is divided not between Left & Right, 
> Liberalism & Conservatism or Progressivsm & Orthodoxy, but between Paganism 
> [pan-Gaian-ism = earth-worship] with un-awakened kundalini consciousness and 
> Non-Paganism with awakened Augustinian consciousness-- with Paganism on the 
> increase everywhere, in the pulpits & pews, open politics & Deep State, 
> businesses and bureaucracies, academia and media. Paganism = 
> Creature-Worship. Non-Paganism = Creator-Worship. Augustine used Platonism to 
> identify the First Cause to be the Creator revealed as Adonai (plural) YHWH 
> (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) of the Patriarchs, Prophets and Apostles, and 
> based on the exegesis of Genesis 3:15 (protoevangelium) in Romans chapter 5 
> and the historical record of Acts chapter 17.


The problem that I see here is that “pagan” was used also for the 
neoplatonician, that inspired augustin, and for whom the material reality, 
including earth is not existing per se. Pagan was used, by christian 
materialist (Aristotelian) against the Platonician for everything that the 
christians will eventually incorporate without saying, thanks to Augustine 
indeed. 

Pagan meant simply village or country, or district, in latin. I don’t think it 
has anything with Gaia worshipping. I have used the term to mean “non 
institutionalised” religion, which means the religion of the Groucho type of 
Marxist: those who belong to the club of those who belong to no club!

When a religion or a science is mixed with politics or with a state, it is 
nothing but con-artistry. It is a manipulation tool made by bandits, and 
nothing else.

Theology is a science, by default. Only those who have dogma in ontology can 
fear reason and doubt, and the coming back of (non confessional) theology in 
Academy. 
Science is doubt, and the genuine modesty which go with (as opposed to the 
condescending attitude of those who want tolerate stupidity, when believing 
that they know better, or that they are superior).

My main point is that Mechanism and Physicalism are logically incompatible, and 
that this is testable, and that there are tuns of evidence for Mechanism, and 
none for Materialism. It is just a bad habit made into a dogma.

Bruno






>  
> Philip Benjamin
>  
> WESTERN  PAGANISM.
> https://wyrdsister.wordpress.com/2017/11/20/western-paganism-and-hermeticism/ 
> <https://wyrdsister.wordpress.com/2017/11/20/western-paganism-and-hermeticism/>
> David Myatt And The Renaissance of Western Culture.
> https://www.ncregister.com/interview/post-christendom-and-the-return-of-paganism-in-the-west
>  
> <https://www.ncregister.com/interview/post-christendom-and-the-return-of-paganism-in-the-west>
> “Return of Paganism in the West” French philosopher Chantal Delsol.
>  
> Washington Examiner. May 31, 2021.  
> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/liberal-media-scream-some-things-may-be-true-even-if-donald-trump-said-them
>  
> <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/liberal-media-scream-some-things-may-be-true-even-if-donald-trump-said-them>
>   …because Trump was saying so much else that was just out of control, and 
> because he was, you know, making a frankly racist appeal talking about 
> ‘kung-flu’ and the ‘China virus,’…”,  screamed ABC’s Jonathan Karl,
>  
>  
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:everything-lis

Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Bruno Marchal]

> On 30 May 2021, at 16:15, Lawrence Crowell  
> wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 6:27:15 AM UTC-5 Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> On 3 May 2021, at 17:09, Philip Benjamin > > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Speech by Senator Tim Scott: 
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/read-sen-tim-scott-s-speech-rnc-n1237978
>>  
>> ...
>>  “ America is not Racist…”
>> MSNBC host Tiffany Cross made it clear that she was angry with Scott's 
>> characterization of America, saying Scott — the lone black U.S. senator — 
>> has "no sense" and "sounded a stone fool" when he absolved America of being 
>> inherently racist. She misapplies “Stockholm Syndrome” to an independent, 
>> FREE critical thinker. 
>> https://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-tiffany-cross-slams-tim-134742377.html 
>> 
>> [Philip Benjamin]
>> If America is racist (because of the global bane of Slave Traffic— human 
>> traffic still vogue), why races of all genera ALWAYS and still want to 
>> emigrate en masse to this once Puritan America?  There are “Life issues” 
>> never discussed by Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism) [WAMP]:
> 
>> 1 .  Is consciousness (life) an ENDOWMENT or EVOLVEMENT in the physical 
>> world of quantum particles of fermions, quarks, dark matter and their 
>> chemistries (Note: 3 below)?  If it is an EVOLVEMENT, what was its very 
>> first “aseitousprogenitor”--- dead electron, proton, neutron or some 
>> combination of them? If it is an ENDOWMENT, who or what is the ENDOWER with 
>> aseity? The answer contributes to human civilizations and makes the 
>> unbridgeable difference between paganism (from the great pagan Egyptian to 
>> Greco Roman civilizations) & non-paganism [Augustinianism from Adonai 
>> (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) with Patriarchal, Prophetic and 
>> Apostolic imprimatur] and non-pagan Abrahamic civilizations.  
> 
>>  
>> 2. Is there any candidate for science today other than bio dark-matter of 
>> negligible mass relative to electrons with bio dark-matter chemistry 
>> (chemical bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and 
>> octets) to describe a real invisible individual “self”?   (See note 1 below) 
>>  
>> 3 . Why “Origin” is mentioned only in the Title, not once in the Text, of 
>> Darwin’s Book “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or 
>> the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life ”. 
>>  
>> 4.  Why the racism propagated by the non-evidentialist Darwin is ignored by 
>> the WAMP? Why did he “scientifically” propose to eliminate "the negro and 
>> Australian peoples [aborigines]," whom he considered as savages whose 
>> continued survival according to him was hindering the progress of 
>> civilization? 
>> (http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php
>>  
>> ).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Because it is very common that the greatest genius are the one saying the 
> greatest stupidity, especially when applying their ideas too much quickly.
> 
> It is up to us, the readers or students, to filter what is valid from what is 
> invalid. 
> 
> The human problem is that we are Darwinianly programmed, like the wolves, to 
> believe that … the boss is right. It makes sense in situation of conflict 
> when decision must be made quickly, and that tell us that humans have evolved 
> a lot through conflicts with itself. But we can learn from this, and try to 
> better behave with our pals.
> 
> Bruno
> 
> This is manifested in denial arguments seen around the world. The second 
> Amendment was drafted in order to allow militias to put down slave 
> rebellions. Most of the drafters of the US Constitution were slave holders 
> and most saw little problem with it. Americans have layers of denial on this 
> and related issues. We see this elsewhere, where the Turks refuse to admit 
> the Armenian genocide, Europeans are hesitant to admit their collaborator 
> role with Nazis in WWII, Chinese deny any mal-treatment of Uyghurs and so 
> forth. 

Indeed. I take it as a lack of spiritual or intellectual maturity. Hardly 
avoidable when theology is out of science since so many years (1492 years 
exactly).

The separation of theology from science makes both the human and the exact 
science inhuman and inexact.

The constant god/non-god debate is a trick by materialist to keep us forgetting 
that the original question of the theologian was about the ontological 
existence of the physical universe. The doubt was already between physics and 
mathematics as a fundamental science, and theology was the science susceptible 
tp pu light on this question. It is mainly the christians who will make the 
material primitive reality into a dogma. 


> 
> Darwin was a product of his time, 

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[John Clark]

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:53 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> *> On Twitter and Facebook the boards of directors paid campaign donations
> to members of Congress to pass bills into laws that project these social
> media platforms from being sued.*
>
Good!  Those laws would have allowed the government to censor corporations,
and would've allowed Big Brother to decree what you could and could not
read or see even in the privacy of your own home.  I'm glad corporations
did all they could to stop that from happening.

> > *The most prominent of these laws is Section 230 of the Communications
> Decency Act of 1996.*
>

It's astonishing! You actually want the Communications Decency Act back
after the Supreme Court unanimously ruled it was unconstitutional in 1997
because it infringed on freedom of speech. But of course that was before
the Supreme Court was filled up with Trump crypto fascists. You're not
complaining there's too much censorship, you're complaining there's two
little. And if you want censorship, and apparently you do, it can only come
from the government because that is the only entity that has the power to
enforce censorship.

Supreme Court Declares Communications Decency Act Unconstitutional


*> You should if you get a chance to corroborate my contention. This, one
> is constantly censored by these corporations if they disagree with your
> statements.*
>
You keep saying that, but you are unable to provide one single example of it
actually happening.

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[spudboy100 via Everything List]

On Twitter and Facebook the boards of directors paid campaign donations to 
members of Congress to pass bills into laws that project these social media 
platforms from being sued. The most prominent of these laws is Section 230 of 
the Communications Decency Act of 1996. You should if you get a chance to 
corroborate my contention. This, one is constantly censored by these 
corporations if they disagree with your statements. Try searching censorship + 
section 230 and see if this makes sense?

On Saturday, June 5, 2021 John Clark  wrote:

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 8:00 PM  wrote:


>John, CRT, Cathode Ray Tubing has been all over the news and here is a Real 
>Clear article about it.

I thought you said the movement to abandon flat screens and go back to bulky 21 
inch Cathode Ray Tubes had been censored, so how the hell could it be all over 
the news?  It's like saying "that restaurant is always so crowded nobody goes 
there anymore". 

> Here, at least is The Washington Post acknowledging for once, that the 
> Corporate Censorship exists

Please explain to me how on earth it could be possible even in theory for a 
corporation to engage in censorship. If an editor decides not to print 
something that may or may not be an example of bad journalism depending on 
circumstances, but it is most certainly not censorship, he may want to censor 
but he can't because only governments have the power to engage in censorship.   
> This does not bode well for this nation John

You voted for Trump and even after January 6 you're still proud of it for god's 
sake! With judgment that abysmal you're in no position to tell anybody what 
does not bode well for this nation and expect to be taken seriously. 
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[John Clark]

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 8:00 PM  wrote:

* >John, CRT, Cathode Ray Tubing has been all over the news and here is a
> Real Clear article about it.*
>

I thought you said the movement to abandon flat screens and go back to
bulky 21 inch Cathode Ray Tubes had been censored, so how the hell could it
be all over the news?  It's like saying "*that restaurant is always so
crowded nobody goes there anymore*".

> *Here, at least is The Washington Post acknowledging for once, that the
> Corporate Censorship exists*
>

Please explain to me how on earth it could be possible even in theory for a
corporation to engage in censorship. If an editor decides not to print
something that may or may not be an example of bad journalism depending on
circumstances, but it is most certainly not censorship, he may want to
censor but he can't because only governments have the power to engage in
censorship.


> > This does not bode well for this nation John
>

You voted for Trump and even after January 6 you're still proud of it for
god's sake! With judgment that abysmal you're in no position to tell
anybody what does not bode well for this nation and expect to be taken
seriously.

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Brent, understood. No, there is currently nobody on either party involved in 
the benefit of specifically the US middle class. The Republicans involved in 
taking cash donations from the Boards of Directors, are now call RINO's. Which 
has evolved from merely not following the scripts of conservative policy, to 
basically taking bribes from mostly, China-facing corporations. How this 
damages the US as a society may be evidenced in the 2022 election. The dems, 
including the President, his brother, his son Hunter are, (China)  like most 
democrats reliant on funds for which a campaign nowadays cannot be successful. 
The Bidens are far from alone in this. The Bern, back in 2016 and again in 2019 
was taking cash and advice from Ebay founder, Pierre Omidyar. I conclude that 
all the government is an unofficial oligarchy, but so what? A peasant such as 
myself see's behind the curtain that Toto has pulled aside and yeah, the world 
is not changed, The Truth has not set us free, nor, is always turning the other 
cheek, such a workable idea either. 
So what will cause a "correction," in the rule of oligarchs? My suspicion is 
that it will be economic and perhaps China troubles shaking the globalist tree. 
So what do we do? Well, things like AI, Machine Intelligence, 3D Printing, are 
advancing almost daily, a little bit at a time. Thus, we may have an 
opportunity to be able to pull back a bit from centralized authority which as 
of today, appears like it will fail us via a surge of inflation, etc. 
Replacement for the globalist giants may occur because we get forced to do 
without these people and their supply chain. Well will see!


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 On 6/4/2021 8:17 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
 
I would say that the original 1787 Constitution that permitted the 3/5 
compromise was the most sloppily written. This was the so-called compromise 
that implicitly allowed slavery. The second amendment basically scares the 
willies out of the modern progressive, who seeks to impose sort of a national 
oligarchy  The left is pushing an oligarchy??  Rule by the super-rich, like 
Musk and Koch and Bezos?  I don't think "oligarchy" means what you think it 
means.
 
 Brent
 
 
 against an unwilling people at least the 75 million of us idiots who voted for 
the orange guy. Hence the huge push for things like CRT, and transgenders 
competing in women's sports and online media censorship and the control of 
banks by people who are of a progressive bent. I turn people of a progressive 
bent are really those sort of liberals who seem to be highly tolerant of Soviet 
socialism. Now this is even so, that they are funded by globalist China facing 
corporations. The issue sort of breaks down to the old Union tune which had a 
lyric that went something like that " which side are you on boy, which side are 
you on?" My point in that observation is that we still live in a nation-state 
age we still behave tribally and if we don't other tribes implicitly and 
explicitly will. Witness the CCP in XI China.  So until something changes in 
the world in which we all must live, something technological I suspect, AI is 
the first thing that jumps to my wee brain, we must dance like the puppets we 
are to the tune that is called by our collective nature's. Governments that 
don't go nationalist at this point in time yes even in the 21st century will 
see themselves kicked out of office at the very least witness what's happening 
in Europe. We must have something that replaces nationalism just as we must 
have something that replaces fossil fuels and switch over while we run things 
concurrently. 
 
 On Friday, June 4, 2021 John Clark  wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
 wrote:

  
  > It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.  It's the 
obvious functional interpretation.  
 
  I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent" 
interpretation.   
 
  > The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative extension of 
what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.
  
 
  Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word "arms" is 
derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to manipulate things, and 
a linguist would also say the derivation of the word "calculus" comes from the 
Greek word for small stone or pebble, but I don't think having completed a 
study of pebbles will help you much on a calculus exam.  
   
 
>> In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms 
>> manufacturers and that hasn't changed. It may be absurd but that's the world 
>> we live in because nucle

Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

John, CRT, Cathode Ray Tubing has been all over the news and here is a Real 
Clear article about it. Stop off at Real Clear Science and see if there is 
anything interesting there, as well! It seems to be the ideological programming 
of children, for their own damn 
good!https://www.realclearpublicaffairs.com/articles/2020/07/16/critical_race_theory_in_k-12_education_498969.html#!
Here is Law professor Jonathan Turley 
explaining...https://jonathanturley.org/2020/10/20/the-rise-of-the-corporate-censors-how-america-is-drifting-toward-the-chinese-model-of-media/

Here is The Hill article with some examinations. 
https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/495788-the-dangerous-liberal-ideas-for-censorship-in-the-united-states

Here, at least is The Washington Post acknowledging for once, that the 
Corporate Censorship exists, and their modest proposal.  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/01/want-fight-corporate-censorship-buy-physical-media/

So yes, a system attempt to teach kids about whiteness bad, rather, than, say, 
algebra.Yes, to Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram censoring people the have an 
ideological hatred for, ideologically-driven. 
This does not bode well for this nation John, not if we cannot even agree on 
some basic concepts. Aside from censorship. 
The study and practice of science has also been attacked as being white 
supremacist. Instead of quantum supremacy there is manufactured indignation 
over successful white, Now Asian behavior scholarship. My thought is that this 
is envy, driven by an expectation of obedience, call it my suspicion.  In any 
case we are on a ride and this ride is unlike what Frank Fukuyama wrote back 20 
years ago, about "waking up from history." 

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:20 PM  wrote:


> Allow me to differ on corporations, John. They do on a daily basis perform 
> censorship, be it what they term false information, which which, for example 
> has reversed itself on what was pondered by many, included the orange haired 
> real estate guy las year. 

That's nice, but where is the example of corporate censorship that you promised 
to give? 

> That the Wuhan lab juiced up the Bat flu, probably, my guess, to wipe out 
> rebellious Hong Kong? This view is now the reverse of the 2020 view, for some 
> reason?

 That's nice, but where is the example of corporate censorship that you 
promised to give?  
> On CRT, yes not the tube but rather a way of promoting one race over another, 
> and indoctrinating children that Caucasian thinking [...]

Caucasian thinking? What the hell is that? 
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:20 PM  wrote:

*> Allow me to differ on corporations, John. They do on a daily basis
> perform censorship, be it what they term false information, which which,
> for example has reversed itself on what was pondered by many, included the
> orange haired real estate guy las year. *
>

That's nice, but where is the example of corporate censorship that you
promised to give?

*> That the Wuhan lab juiced up the Bat flu, probably, my guess, to wipe
> out rebellious Hong Kong? This view is now the reverse of the 2020 view,
> for some reason?*
>

 That's nice, but where is the example of corporate censorship that you
promised to give?


> *> On CRT, yes not the tube but rather a way of promoting one race over
> another, and indoctrinating children that Caucasian thinking* [...]
>

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['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 6/4/2021 8:17 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:


I would say that the original 1787 Constitution that permitted the 3/5 
compromise was the most sloppily written. This was the so-called 
compromise that implicitly allowed slavery. The second amendment 
basically scares the willies out of the modern progressive, who seeks 
to impose sort of a national oligarchy


The left is pushing an /oligarchy/??  Rule by the super-rich, like Musk 
and Koch and Bezos?  I don't think "oligarchy" means what you think it 
means.


Brent

against an unwilling people at least the 75 million of us idiots who 
voted for the orange guy. Hence the huge push for things like CRT, and 
transgenders competing in women's sports and online media censorship 
and the control of banks by people who are of a progressive bent. I 
turn people of a progressive bent are really those sort of liberals 
who seem to be highly tolerant of Soviet socialism. Now this is even 
so, that they are funded by globalist China facing corporations. The 
issue sort of breaks down to the old Union tune which had a lyric that 
went something like that " which side are you on boy, which side are 
you on?"


My point in that observation is that we still live in a nation-state 
age we still behave tribally and if we don't other tribes implicitly 
and explicitly will. Witness the CCP in XI China.  So until something 
changes in the world in which we all must live, something 
technological I suspect, AI is the first thing that jumps to my wee 
brain, we must dance like the puppets we are to the tune that is 
called by our collective nature's. Governments that don't go 
nationalist at this point in time yes even in the 21st century will 
see themselves kicked out of office at the very least witness what's 
happening in Europe. We must have something that replaces nationalism 
just as we must have something that replaces fossil fuels and switch 
over while we run things concurrently.





On Friday, June 4, 2021 John Clark  
wrote:


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> wrote:


/> It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket. 
It's the obvious functional interpretation. /


I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent" 
interpretation.


> /The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative
extension of what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.
/


Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word 
"arms" is derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to 
manipulate things, and a linguist would also say the derivation of the 
word "calculus" comes from the Greek word for small stone or pebble, 
but I don't think having completed a study of pebbles will help you 
much on a calculus exam.


>> In 1787 the people that made cannons andwarships were called
arms manufacturers and that hasn't changed.It may be absurd
but that's the world we live in because nuclear weapons are
called "arms'', remember the SALT talks from the 1970s, the
Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? They were about the reduction
in the number of nuclear weapons manufactured by the US and USSR.


/> But they certainly didn't mean that in order to have well
regulated militia people had the right to keep and bear frigates. /


True, it's impossible for one man to carry a frigate, but it's 
certainly possible for one man to carry and activate a nuclear 
warhead, so I don't see your point. I'm also surprised to hear you 
bring up the "well regulated militia" bit because for years courts 
have been pretending that line didn't exist in the Constitution. The 
only well regulated militias are state national guard units, and only 
a tiny percentage of the population are members of the national guard, 
but there are more privately owned guns in the US than there are 
people in the country. And even when national guard members are called 
to duty they don't use their personal guns, they use weapons provided 
by the state.


I think the second amendment is the most sloppily written part of the 
constitution, and that's really saying something considering what a 
very imperfect document it is. At least the parts about slavery are 
clear, they're not stupid, they're just evil.


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Allow me to differ on corporations, John. They do on a daily basis perform 
censorship, be it what they term false information, which which, for example 
has reversed itself on what was pondered by many, included the orange haired 
real estate guy las year. That the Wuhan lab juiced up the Bat flu, probably, 
my guess, to wipe out rebellious Hong Kong? This view is now the reverse of the 
2020 view, for some reason? On CRT, yes not the tube but rather a way of 
promoting one race over another, and indoctrinating children that Caucasian 
thinking, social norms and goals, political practice, and yes, the practice of 
science must be done away with. From my opinion, whatever that is worth, not 
good. 
My view is that whatever seems to work in a utilitarian sense of the word, in a 
John Hobbes manner, needs to take the forefront while ideology needs to shut 
the hell up and sit in the back sit and let the cause and effect people, do the 
driving.  

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Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2021 12:24 pm
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 11:17 AM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:


 > the huge push for things like CRT

Huge push? I think I'm better read than most people but I had to use Google to 
know what the hell you were even talking about when you mentioned "CRT", all I 
could think of was Cathode Ray Tube but that didn't seem quite right.  Like the 
anti-vaccination movement, the anti-mask movement, the anti-Darwin movement, 
and the mythical caravan of aliens about to invade the southern border, this is 
an example of Trump pushing right wing people's buttons to inflame the idiotic 
culture wars.
> and transgenders competing in women's sports
I am a libertarian (small l, I'm not a member of the Libertarian party and 
never will be), and the first rule of libertarianism is mind your own business, 
and given that I am not a woman or a transgender or an athlete and I can't 
think of any way that issue could affect me positively or negatively so its 
none of my business, or yours.
>and online media censorship
Corporations can't do that, only governments can impose censorship, only 
governments can put you in prison for saying something they don't like. If I 
own a newspaper I can decide not to print your views but I can't put you in 
prison because I don't like your ideas. You have a right to say anything you 
like, but I have rights too, I have the right not to hand you my megaphone. And 
if you don't like my decision then buy your own megaphone.  
 > people of a progressive bent are really those sort of liberals who seem to 
be highly tolerant of Soviet socialism. 
BULLSHIT. Maybe there was some truth to that in the early 1950s but not today. 
Soviet style communism is as dead as a doornail and has been for over 30 years, 
these days being an anti-communist is about as meaningful as being an 
anti-viking. 
> The second amendment basically scares the willies out of the modern 
>progressive, who seeks to impose sort of a national oligarchy against an 
>unwilling people at least the 75 million of us idiots who voted for the orange 
>guy.  [...] My point in that observation is that we still live in a 
>nation-state age we still behave tribally
You rightly vilify tribalism and nationalism and yet you admit to being a 
member in good standing of the most sinister tribe of them all, the fascist 
Trump cult of personality. Something does not compute. I just don't get it, 
after January 6 if I had voted for Trump I'd be ashamed to admit it, but you 
seem almost proud of it. But I do agree with your description of Trump 
supporters as "idiots". 
 > which side are you on boy, which side are you on?
You can be damn sure I'm not on the side of the personality cult, especially 
when the personality in question is that of a dishonest TV game show host with 
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['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 6/4/2021 3:15 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> wrote:


/> It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.
It's the obvious functional interpretation. /


I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent" 
interpretation.


I'm certainly not wedded to that, but my point is that "original intent" 
could most reasonably interpret "arms" as whatever soldiers are issued 
to be in a militia.  It would have swords and shields in 1200ce and 
assualt rifles in 2021.  In other words interpret it in terms function 
in the world, not in terms of hardware at the time.




> /The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative
extension of what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.
/


Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word 
"arms" is derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to 
manipulate things, and a linguist would also say the derivation of the 
word "calculus" comes from the Greek word for small stone or pebble, 
but I don't think having completed a study of pebbles will help you 
much on a calculus exam.


>> In 1787 the people that made cannons andwarships were called
arms manufacturers and that hasn't changed.It may be absurd
but that's the world we live in because nuclear weapons are
called "arms'', remember the SALT talks from the 1970s, the
Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? They were about the reduction
in the number of nuclear weapons manufactured by the US and USSR.


/> But they certainly didn't mean that in order to have well
regulated militia people had the right to keep and bear frigates. /


True, it's impossible for one man to carry a frigate, but it's 
certainly possible for one man to carry and activate a nuclear 
warhead, so I don't see your point. I'm also surprised to hear you 
bring up the "well regulated militia" bit because for years courts 
have been pretending that line didn't exist in the Constitution. The 
only well regulated militias are state national guard units, and only 
a tiny percentage of the population are members of the national guard, 
but there are more privately owned guns in the US than there are 
people in the country. And even when national guard members are called 
to duty they don't use their personal guns, they use weapons provided 
by the state.


It's unclear in the text, but I think the founders were thinking of 
individuals being called up to form a militia.  That's what happened in 
putting down the Whisky Rebellion and Shay's Rebellion.  I've proposed 
that one resolution of the gun control controversy would be for states 
to charter private militias who would keep track of members guns (say 
keep them in an armory at a shooting range the way Brits do) and have 
liability insurance covering their usage.  The state would require that 
they maintain certain standards of membership.  To make this more 
attractive to gun nuts, they, thru the militia, could own full-auto and 
other prohibited individual arms.


Brent



I think the second amendment is the most sloppily written part of the 
constitution, and that's really saying something considering what a 
very imperfect document it is. At least the parts about slavery are 
clear, they're not stupid, they're just evil.


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[John Clark]

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 11:17 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

* > the huge push for things like CRT*


Huge push? I think I'm better read than most people but I had to use Google
to know what the hell you were even talking about when you mentioned "CRT",
all I could think of was Cathode Ray Tube but that didn't seem quite
right.  Like the anti-vaccination movement, the anti-mask movement, the
anti-Darwin movement, and the mythical caravan of aliens about to invade
the southern border, this is an example of Trump pushing right wing
people's buttons to inflame the idiotic culture wars.

> *> and transgenders competing in women's sports*
>
I am a libertarian (small l, I'm not a member of the Libertarian party and
never will be), and the first rule of libertarianism is mind your own
business, and given that I am not a woman or a transgender or an athlete
and I can't think of any way that issue could affect me positively or
negatively so its none of my business, or yours.
>
> >*and online media censorship*
>
Corporations can't do that, only governments can impose censorship, only
governments can put you in prison for saying something they don't like. If
I own a newspaper I can decide not to print your views but I can't put you
in prison because I don't like your ideas. You have a right to say anything
you like, but I have rights too, I have the right not to hand you my
megaphone. And if you don't like my decision then buy your own megaphone.

>  > *people of a progressive bent are really those sort of liberals who
> seem to be highly tolerant of Soviet socialism. *
>
BULLSHIT. Maybe there was some truth to that in the early 1950s but not
today. Soviet style communism is as dead as a doornail and has been for
over 30 years, these days being an anti-communist is about as meaningful as
being an anti-viking.

> > *T**he second amendment basically scares the willies out of the modern
> progressive, who seeks to impose sort of a national oligarchy against an
> unwilling people at least the 75 million of us idiots who voted for the
> orange guy.  [...] My point in that observation is that we still live in a
> nation-state age we still behave tribally*
>
You rightly vilify tribalism and nationalism and yet you admit to being a
member in good standing of the most sinister tribe of them all, the fascist
Trump cult of personality. Something does not compute. I just don't get it,
after January 6 if I had voted for Trump I'd be ashamed to admit it, but
you seem almost proud of it. But I do agree with your description of Trump
supporters as "idiots".

>  > *which side are you on boy, which side are you on?*
>
You can be damn sure I'm not on the side of the personality cult,
especially when the personality in question is that of a dishonest TV game
show host with a room temperature IQ.
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I would say that the original 1787 Constitution that permitted the 3/5 
compromise was the most sloppily written. This was the so-called compromise 
that implicitly allowed slavery. The second amendment basically scares the 
willies out of the modern progressive, who seeks to impose sort of a national 
oligarchy against an unwilling people at least the 75 million of us idiots who 
voted for the orange guy. Hence the huge push for things like CRT, and 
transgenders competing in women's sports and online media censorship and the 
control of banks by people who are of a progressive bent. I turn people of a 
progressive bent are really those sort of liberals who seem to be highly 
tolerant of Soviet socialism. Now this is even so, that they are funded by 
globalist China facing corporations. The issue sort of breaks down to the old 
Union tune which had a lyric that went something like that " which side are you 
on boy, which side are you on?"

My point in that observation is that we still live in a nation-state age we 
still behave tribally and if we don't other tribes implicitly and explicitly 
will. Witness the CCP in XI China.  So until something changes in the world in 
which we all must live, something technological I suspect, AI is the first 
thing that jumps to my wee brain, we must dance like the puppets we are to the 
tune that is called by our collective nature's. Governments that don't go 
nationalist at this point in time yes even in the 21st century will see 
themselves kicked out of office at the very least witness what's happening in 
Europe. We must have something that replaces nationalism just as we must have 
something that replaces fossil fuels and switch over while we run things 
concurrently.
On Friday, June 4, 2021 John Clark  wrote:
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
 wrote:


  > It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.  It's the 
obvious functional interpretation. 

I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent" 
interpretation.  

 > The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative extension of 
what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.


Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word "arms" is 
derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to manipulate things, and 
a linguist would also say the derivation of the word "calculus" comes from the 
Greek word for small stone or pebble, but I don't think having completed a 
study of pebbles will help you much on a calculus exam. 


>> In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms 
>> manufacturers and that hasn't changed. It may be absurd but that's the world 
>> we live in because nuclear weapons are called "arms'', remember the SALT 
>> talks from the 1970s, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? They were about 
>> the reduction in the number of nuclear weapons manufactured by the US and 
>> USSR.





 > But they certainly didn't mean that in order to have well regulated militia 
 > people had the right to keep and bear frigates. 

True, it's impossible for one man to carry a frigate, but it's certainly 
possible for one man to carry and activate a nuclear warhead, so I don't see 
your point. I'm also surprised to hear you bring up the "well regulated 
militia" bit because for years courts have been pretending that line didn't 
exist in the Constitution. The only well regulated militias are state national 
guard units, and only a tiny percentage of the population are members of the 
national guard, but there are more privately owned guns in the US than there 
are people in the country. And even when national guard members are called to 
duty they don't use their personal guns, they use weapons provided by the state.

I think the second amendment is the most sloppily written part of the 
constitution, and that's really saying something considering what a very 
imperfect document it is. At least the parts about slavery are clear, they're 
not stupid, they're just evil.  
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RE: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Philip Benjamin]

SALON. 6-4-21. Alan D. Blotcky Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist in Birmingham, 
Alabama.. 
https://www.salon.com/2021/06/04/one-thing-trump-destroyed-we-should-be-happy-about-the-goldwater-rule-bites-the-dust/
   "The overarching purpose of the press is to keep in the spotlight every 
deliberation and decision that is made in our government. The press is the 
watchdog of our elected officials... Because a free press is indispensable to 
democracy. We depend on it to inform, to explain, to interpret and, yes, to 
warn. To a large degree, that is what separates us from authoritarian regimes 
and "managed" pseudo-democracies "
  [Philip Benjamin]
This is WAMP-ology 101. Marxist Paganism wants to condemn all dissenters as 
psychological abnormalities if they try to restore Constitutional Republicanism 
which is a byproduct of an "AWAKENED" culture! After 24/7 incessant pejoratives 
against 74+ million bona fide citizens with awakened (Augustinian) 
consciousnesses for over 4 years, WAMP-the-Ingrate ( see notes below) has 
finally discovered that "some-things may be true even if Donald Trump said 
them". The Western world is divided not between Left & Right, Liberalism & 
Conservatism or Progressivsm & Orthodoxy, but between Paganism [pan-Gaian-ism = 
earth-worship] with un-awakened kundalini consciousness and Non-Paganism with 
awakened Augustinian consciousness-- with Paganism on the increase everywhere, 
in the pulpits & pews, open politics & Deep State, businesses and 
bureaucracies, academia and media. Paganism = Creature-Worship. Non-Paganism = 
Creator-Worship. Augustine used Platonism to identify the First Cause to be the 
Creator revealed as Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) of the 
Patriarchs, Prophets and Apostles, and based on the exegesis of Genesis 3:15 
(protoevangelium) in Romans chapter 5 and the historical record of Acts chapter 
17.

Philip Benjamin

WESTERN  PAGANISM.
https://wyrdsister.wordpress.com/2017/11/20/western-paganism-and-hermeticism/
David Myatt And The Renaissance of Western Culture.
https://www.ncregister.com/interview/post-christendom-and-the-return-of-paganism-in-the-west
"Return of Paganism in the West" French philosopher Chantal Delsol.

Washington Examiner. May 31, 2021.  
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/liberal-media-scream-some-things-may-be-true-even-if-donald-trump-said-them
  ...because Trump was saying so much else that was just out of control, and 
because he was, you know, making a frankly racist appeal talking about 
'kung-flu' and the 'China virus,'...",  screamed ABC's Jonathan Karl,


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Right wingers love talking about the "original intent'' of the founders of the 
constitution, so what  did they mean by the word ''arms"? Usually it's 
difficult to know what was going through somebody else's mind, especially if 
they've been dead for 200 years, but in this case it's easy; when they used the 
word "arms" they were thinking of muzzle loading muskets and single shot 
flintlock pistols, they most certainly were NOT thinking about AK-47s and Glock 
 automatics with 17 round magazines. So the Second Amendment says anybody can 
buy a muzzle loading musket or a flintlock pistol, but if you want something a 
little more powerful you're going to need a license and to get a licence you're 
going to have to have a need for such a devastating weapon and demonstrate some 
degree of competence and responsibility in its use.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  
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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:29 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

* > It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.  It's the
> obvious functional interpretation. *
>

I interpret that to mean you don't believe in the "original intent"
interpretation.

 >
> *The use of "arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative extension of
> what a combatant originally wielded with his arm.*
>

Well, I admit a linguist would say the weapon meaning of the word "arms" is
derived from the word for the limbs human beings used to manipulate things,
and a linguist would also say the derivation of the word "calculus" comes
from the Greek word for small stone or pebble, but I don't think having
completed a study of pebbles will help you much on a calculus exam.

>> In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms
>> manufacturers and that hasn't changed. It may be absurd but that's the world
>> we live in because nuclear weapons are called "arms'', remember the SALT
>> talks from the 1970s, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? They were
>> about the reduction in the number of nuclear weapons manufactured by the US
>> and USSR.
>
>
> * > But they certainly didn't mean that in order to have well regulated
> militia people had the right to keep and bear frigates. *
>

True, it's impossible for one man to carry a frigate, but it's certainly
possible for one man to carry and activate a nuclear warhead, so I don't
see your point. I'm also surprised to hear you bring up the "well regulated
militia" bit because for years courts have been pretending that line didn't
exist in the Constitution. The only well regulated militias are state
national guard units, and only a tiny percentage of the population are
members of the national guard, but there are more privately owned guns in
the US than there are people in the country. And even when national guard
members are called to duty they don't use their personal guns, they use
weapons provided by the state.

I think the second amendment is the most sloppily written part of the
constitution, and that's really saying something considering what a very
imperfect document it is. At least the parts about slavery are clear,
they're not stupid, they're just evil.

John K Clark  See what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 6/3/2021 2:38 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 5:04 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> wrote:


>> It doesn't say that anywherein the constitution,and these
days a soldier can have weapons other than assault rifles.


/> He can have a grenade.  He can't have a machine gun...a machine
gun is assigned to a two man crew; same with a sniper rifle./


I don't know where you got that "/one man must carry it not //2 /" 
definition of "/arms/", you seem to have pulled it out of thin air, it 
certainly doesn't say anything like that in the constitution.


It's not nearly as thin as the air that says it's a musket.  It's the 
obvious functional interpretation.


And besides, the SADM nuclear landmine was specifically designed to be 
carried and activated by just one man.


>> Anuclearbomb had been developed in the1950s that was small
enough to be carried by one man, it was called the W54 warhead
and weighed 56 pounds and had the explosive force of 1000 tons
of TNT. It was supposed to be deployed as a sort of nuclear
landmine. So does the second amendment allow Walmarts to sell
nuclear bombs next to the shotguns in its stores?

Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM)



/> See what you did there.  You tried for a reductio ad absurdum,
by missing the point ''Functionally, "arms" meant *what a soldier
carried*''  They had cannon and warships in 1787 too..but they
weren't called "arms".
/


In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms 
manufacturers and that hasn't changed.It may be absurd but that's the 
world we live in because nuclear weapons are called "arms'', remember 
the SALT talks from the 1970s, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? 
They were about the reduction in the number of nuclear weapons 
manufactured by the US and USSR.


But they certainly didn't mean that in order to have well regulated 
militia people had the right to keep and bear frigates.  The use of 
"arms" to mean any weapon is clearly a derivative extension of what a 
combatant originally wielded with his arm.


Brent

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 5:04 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>> It doesn't say that anywhere in the constitution, and these days a
>> soldier can have weapons other than assault rifles.
>
>
> * > He can have a grenade.  He can't have a machine gun...a machine gun is
> assigned to a two man crew; same with a sniper rifle.*
>

I don't know where you got that "*one man must carry it not **2 *"
definition of "*arms*", you seem to have pulled it out of thin air, it
certainly doesn't say anything like that in the constitution.  And besides,
the SADM nuclear landmine was specifically designed to be carried and
activated by just one man.

>> A nuclear bomb had been developed in the 1950s that was small enough to
>> be carried by one man, it was called the W54 warhead and weighed 56 pounds
>> and had the explosive force of 1000 tons of TNT. It was supposed to be
>> deployed as a sort of nuclear landmine. So does the second amendment
>> allow Walmarts to sell nuclear bombs next to the shotguns in its stores?
>>
>> Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM)
>> 
>
>
>
> * > See what you did there.  You tried for a reductio ad absurdum, by
> missing the point ''Functionally, "arms" meant what a soldier carried''
> They had cannon and warships in 1787 too...but they weren't called "arms".*
>

In 1787 the people that made cannons and warships were called arms
manufacturers and that hasn't changed. It may be absurd but that's the world
we live in because nuclear weapons are called "arms'', remember the SALT
talks from the 1970s, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks? They were about
the reduction in the number of nuclear weapons manufactured by the US and
USSR.

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 6/3/2021 1:07 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:01 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> wrote:


/> It's much more sensible to define "arms" in terms of function
than mechanical design.  After all "arms" meant swords and pikes
and bows and arrows too. /


The function of arms is to kill people, a sword can do that, so can a 
musket, and so can an H bomb.


/> Functionally, "arms" meant what a soldier carried...these days
an assault rifle. /


It doesn't say that anywherein the constitution,and these days a 
soldier can have weapons other than assault rifles.


He can have a grenade.  He can't have a machine gun...a machine gun is 
assigned to a two man crew; same with a sniper rifle.


Anuclearbomb had been developed in the1950s that was small enough to 
be carried by one man, it was called the W54 warhead and weighed 56 
pounds and had the explosive force of 1000 tons of TNT. It was 
supposed to be deployed as a sort of nuclear landmine. So does the 
second amendment allow Walmarts to sell nuclear bombs next to the 
shotguns in its stores?


Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM) 



See what you did there.  You tried for a reductio ad absurdum, by 
missing the point ''Functionally, "arms" meant *what a soldier 
carried*''  They had cannon and warships in 1787 too...but they weren't 
called "arms".



/>The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was as a substitute for a
standing army the government would be able to call up men with
arms to form a militia.  Being very suspicious of centralized
power, the founders wanted to make sure the government could not
forbid private arms.
/


After considering the events of January 6 it seems to me that the 
founders would've been wiser to be suspicious of private armies.


I agree with that.  But historically their attitude is understandable.

The militias were not defending the capital on that day they were 
attacking it, and were part of the mindless fascist mob that beat 
police with flag poles and defecated in the rotunda of that historic 
building as Senators and Representatives feared for their lives while 
they officially declared Joe Biden would be the next president. 
Fortunately the mob's coup d'état attempt failed, no thanks to the 
Second Amendment or to militias.


You can't have expected them to foresee that.  And note that being armed 
in that case meant clubs and bear spray.


Brent

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:01 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

* > It's much more sensible to define "arms" in terms of function than
> mechanical design.  After all "arms" meant swords and pikes and bows and
> arrows too. *
>

The function of arms is to kill people, a sword can do that, so can a
musket, and so can an H bomb.


> *> Functionally, "arms" meant what a soldier carried...these days an
> assault rifle. *
>

It doesn't say that anywhere in the constitution, and these days a soldier
can have weapons other than assault rifles. A nuclear bomb had been
developed in the 1950s that was small enough to be carried by one man, it
was called the W54 warhead and weighed 56 pounds and had the explosive
force of 1000 tons of TNT. It was supposed to be deployed as a sort of nuclear
landmine. So does the second amendment allow Walmarts to sell nuclear bombs
next to the shotguns in its stores?

Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM)



>
> * >The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was as a substitute for a standing
> army the government would be able to call up men with arms to form a
> militia.  Being very suspicious of centralized power, the founders wanted
> to make sure the government could not forbid private arms.*
>

After considering the events of January 6 it seems to me that the founders
would've been wiser to be suspicious of private armies. The militias were
not defending the capital on that day they were attacking it, and were part
of the mindless fascist mob that beat police with flag poles and defecated
in the rotunda of that historic building as Senators and Representatives
feared for their lives while they officially declared Joe Biden would be
the next president. Fortunately the mob's coup d'état attempt failed, no
thanks to the Second Amendment or to militias.
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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

It's much more sensible to define "arms" in terms of function than 
mechanical design.  After all "arms" meant swords and pikes and bows and 
arrows too.  Functionally, "arms" meant what a soldier carried...these 
days an assault rifle.  The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was as a 
substitute for a standing army the government would be able to call up 
men with arms to form a militia.  Being very suspicious of centralized 
power, the founders wanted to make sure the government could not forbid 
private arms.


I think the best idea for gun control, suggested by a lawyer friend, is 
to the treat them like cars.  Require registration and liability 
insurance.  Let the insurance companies figure out who's a risk.


Brent

On 6/3/2021 7:08 AM, John Clark wrote:
Right wingers love talking about the "original intent'' of the 
founders of the constitution, so what  did they mean by the word 
''arms"? Usually it's difficult to know what was going through 
somebody else's mind, especially if they've been dead for 200 years, 
but in this case it's easy; when they used the word "arms" they were 
thinking of muzzle loading muskets and single shot flintlock pistols, 
they most certainly were NOT thinking about AK-47s and Glock  
automatics with 17 round magazines. So the Second Amendment says 
anybody can buy a muzzle loading musket or a flintlock pistol, but if 
you want something a little more powerful you're going to need a 
license and to get a licence you're going to have to have a need for 
such a devastating weapon and demonstrate some degree of competence 
and responsibility in its use.


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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 6/3/2021 4:32 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:



On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote:


On 5/30/2021 7:15 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:

This is manifested in denial arguments seen around the world. The
second Amendment was drafted in order to allow militias to put
down slave rebellions.



I think that's nonsense.  The U.S. had just been formed by taking
up arms, without an army, to revolt against the British Empire. 
They didn't want the expense and difficulty of maintaining a
standing army. So it is perfectly rational, slaves or not, that
they would have written the 2nd Amendment as a personal freedom
and as an alternative to a national army.  Without it there would
still have been no obstacle to putting down slave rebellions.  It
did nothing to enhance states and local governments power to do
so.  And note that the two times that national militias were
actually formed to put down rebellions, The Whisky Rebellion and
Shays Rebellion, they had nothing to do with slavery.

Brent


Letters by Patrick Henry  and Hamilton suggest otherwise. Besides the 
militia was only a nuisance to the British and the start of the 
revolution. It was the Continental Army Washington formed, a 
professional army, that won the war. The Shays Rebellion was put down 
by Washington by the army he formed.


But in the absence of a standing army, having armed citizens is what 
allowed Washington to just "form an army".


And you didn't respond at all to my point that there was no need for 
anything in the federal constitution to permit states to form militias, 
arm citizens, or take any action to put down slave rebellions.  Slave 
rebellions were illegal. A state had an obvious right to enforce laws.  
So the 2nd Amendment could not have any effect of enhancing the ability 
to put down slave rebellions.  It's just revisionist history of gun 
control advocates who want to tie gun ownership to slavery.


Brent


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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[John Clark]

Right wingers love talking about the "original intent'' of the founders of
the constitution, so what  did they mean by the word ''arms"? Usually it's
difficult to know what was going through somebody else's mind, especially
if they've been dead for 200 years, but in this case it's easy; when they
used the word "arms" they were thinking of muzzle loading muskets and
single shot flintlock pistols, they most certainly were NOT thinking about
AK-47s and Glock  automatics with 17 round magazines. So the Second
Amendment says anybody can buy a muzzle loading musket or a flintlock
pistol, but if you want something a little more powerful you're going to
need a license and to get a licence you're going to have to have a need for
such a devastating weapon and demonstrate some degree of competence and
responsibility in its use.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote:

>
> On 5/30/2021 7:15 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
>
> This is manifested in denial arguments seen around the world. The second 
> Amendment was drafted in order to allow militias to put down slave 
> rebellions.
>
>
> I think that's nonsense.  The U.S. had just been formed by taking up arms, 
> without an army, to revolt against the British Empire.  They didn't want 
> the expense and difficulty of maintaining a standing army. So it is 
> perfectly rational, slaves or not, that they would have written the 2nd 
> Amendment as a personal freedom and as an alternative to a national army.  
> Without it there would still have been no obstacle to putting down slave 
> rebellions.  It did nothing to enhance states and local governments power 
> to do so.  And note that the two times that national militias were actually 
> formed to put down rebellions, The Whisky Rebellion and Shays Rebellion, 
> they had nothing to do with slavery.
>
> Brent
>

Letters by Patrick Henry  and Hamilton suggest otherwise. Besides the 
militia was only a nuisance to the British and the start of the revolution. 
It was the Continental Army Washington formed, a professional army, that 
won the war. The Shays Rebellion was put down by Washington by the army he 
formed.

LC  

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 5/30/2021 7:15 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
This is manifested in denial arguments seen around the world. The 
second Amendment was drafted in order to allow militias to put down 
slave rebellions.



I think that's nonsense.  The U.S. had just been formed by taking up 
arms, without an army, to revolt against the British Empire.  They 
didn't want the expense and difficulty of maintaining a standing army. 
So it is perfectly rational, slaves or not, that they would have written 
the 2nd Amendment as a personal freedom and as an alternative to a 
national army.  Without it there would still have been no obstacle to 
putting down slave rebellions.  It did nothing to enhance states and 
local governments power to do so.  And note that the two times that 
national militias were actually formed to put down rebellions, The 
Whisky Rebellion and Shays Rebellion, they had nothing to do with slavery.


Brent

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 6:27:15 AM UTC-5 Bruno Marchal wrote:

> On 3 May 2021, at 17:09, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
>
> Speech by *Senator Tim Scott*: 
> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/read-sen-tim-scott-s-speech-rnc-n1237978...
>  
> “ America is not Racist…”
> MSNBC host *Tiffany **Cross* made it clear that she was angry with 
> Scott's characterization of America, saying Scott — the lone black U.S. 
> senator — has "no sense" and "sounded a stone fool" when he absolved 
> America of being inherently racist. She misapplies “Stockholm Syndrome” to 
> an independent, FREE critical thinker. 
> https://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-tiffany-cross-slams-tim-134742377.html
> [*Philip Benjamin*]
> If America is racist (because of the global bane of Slave Traffic— 
> human traffic still vogue), why races of all genera ALWAYS and still want 
> to emigrate en masse to this once Puritan America?  There are “Life issues” 
> never discussed by Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism) [WAMP]:
>
> 1 .  Is consciousness (life) an ENDOWMENT or EVOLVEMENT in the physical 
> world of quantum particles of fermions, quarks, dark matter and their 
> chemistries (Note: 3 below)?  If it is an EVOLVEMENT, what was its very 
> first “*aseitous*progenitor”--- dead electron, proton, neutron or some 
> combination of them? If it is an ENDOWMENT, who or what is the ENDOWER with 
> aseity? The answer contributes to human civilizations and makes the 
> unbridgeable difference between paganism (from the great pagan Egyptian to 
> Greco Roman civilizations) & non-paganism [Augustinianism from Adonai 
> (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) with Patriarchal, Prophetic 
> and Apostolic imprimatur] and non-pagan Abrahamic civilizations.  
>
>  
> 2. Is there any candidate for science today other than bio dark-matter of 
> negligible mass relative to electrons with bio dark-matter chemistry 
> (chemical bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets 
> and octets) to describe a real invisible individual “self”?   (*See note 
> 1 below*) 
>  
> 3 . Why “Origin” is mentioned only in the Title, not once in the Text, of 
> Darwin’s Book “On the *Origin* of Species by Means of Natural Selection, 
> or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life ”. 
>  
> 4.  Why the racism propagated by the non-evidentialist Darwin is ignored 
> by the WAMP? Why did he “scientifically” propose to eliminate "the negro 
> and Australian peoples [*aborigines*]," whom he considered as savages 
> whose continued survival according to him was hindering the progress of 
> civilization? (
> http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php
> ).
>
>
>
>
> Because it is very common that the greatest genius are the one saying the 
> greatest stupidity, especially when applying their ideas too much quickly.
>
> It is up to us, the readers or students, to filter what is valid from what 
> is invalid. 
>
> The human problem is that we are Darwinianly programmed, like the wolves, 
> to believe that … the boss is right. It makes sense in situation of 
> conflict when decision must be made quickly, and that tell us that humans 
> have evolved a lot through conflicts with itself. But we can learn from 
> this, and try to better behave with our pals.
>
> Bruno
>

This is manifested in denial arguments seen around the world. The second 
Amendment was drafted in order to allow militias to put down slave 
rebellions. Most of the drafters of the US Constitution were slave holders 
and most saw little problem with it. Americans have layers of denial on 
this and related issues. We see this elsewhere, where the Turks refuse to 
admit the Armenian genocide, Europeans are hesitant to admit their 
collaborator role with Nazis in WWII, Chinese deny any mal-treatment of 
Uyghurs and so forth. 

Darwin was a product of his time, where he was a citizen and upper class to 
boot in the dominant nation and empire of the world. This was Victorian 
British Empire period. The default assumption was that Europeans were 
superior, particularly northern Europeaners and more in England that would 
be Anglo-Saxon, plus Normans I presume. This does not make his theory 
wrong. Teichmuller did brilliant work on moduli space of hyperbolic 
geometries, which I have employed, and the man was an ardent Nazi and even 
enlisted in the Wehrmacht and died in combat. This does not make his 
mathematics false, but it does illustrate how he was an asshole.

LC

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Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

To beat, 'follow the leader,' we have to replace it with something else. 
To ensure cooperation with one another on group projects like saving the earth 
(highly subjective but usable example), most of our species need agreed upon 
goals and rewards. Also methods to get from here to there? I would argue that 
as good as Darwin was, he was probably a bit below B.F. Skinner and Abe Maslow 
in contribution to knowledge, and not that Darwin wasn't and is not, profound! 
Species compete, chemicals compete, algorithms compete, in order to best 
propagate and produce traits. Yet Skinner, Maslow, Pavlov speak to human 
behavior. 

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From: Bruno Marchal 
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Sent: Wed, May 19, 2021 7:27 am
Subject: Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo 
Dark-Matter Body



On 3 May 2021, at 17:09, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
Speech by Senator Tim Scott: 
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/read-sen-tim-scott-s-speech-rnc-n1237978...
 “ America is not Racist…”MSNBC host Tiffany Cross made it clear that she was 
angry with Scott's characterization of America, saying Scott — the lone black 
U.S. senator — has "no sense" and "sounded a stone fool" when he absolved 
America of being inherently racist. She misapplies “Stockholm Syndrome” to an 
independent, FREE critical thinker. 
https://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-tiffany-cross-slams-tim-134742377.html[Philip 
Benjamin]    If America is racist (because of the global bane of Slave Traffic— 
human traffic still vogue), why races of all genera ALWAYS and still want to 
emigrate en masse to this once Puritan America?  There are “Life issues” never 
discussed by Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism) [WAMP]:1 .  Is consciousness (life) 
an ENDOWMENT or EVOLVEMENT in the physical world of quantum particles of 
fermions, quarks, dark matter and their chemistries (Note: 3 below)?  If it is 
an EVOLVEMENT, what was its very first “aseitousprogenitor”--- dead electron, 
proton, neutron or some combination of them? If it is an ENDOWMENT, who or what 
is the ENDOWER with aseity? The answer contributes to human civilizations and 
makes the unbridgeable difference between paganism (from the great pagan 
Egyptian to Greco Roman civilizations) & non-paganism [Augustinianism from 
Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) with Patriarchal, Prophetic 
and Apostolic imprimatur] and non-pagan Abrahamic civilizations.    2. 
Is there any candidate for science today other than bio dark-matter of 
negligible mass relative to electrons with bio dark-matter chemistry (chemical 
bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets) to 
describe a real invisible individual “self”?   (See note 1 below)   3 . Why 
“Origin” is mentioned only in the Title, not once in the Text, of Darwin’s Book 
“On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of 
Favored Races in the Struggle for Life ”.   4.  Why the racism propagated by 
the non-evidentialist Darwin is ignored by the WAMP? Why did he 
“scientifically” propose to eliminate "the negro and Australian peoples 
[aborigines]," whom he considered as savages whose continued survival according 
to him was hindering the progress of civilization? 
(http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php).



Because it is very common that the greatest genius are the one saying the 
greatest stupidity, especially when applying their ideas too much quickly.
It is up to us, the readers or students, to filter what is valid from what is 
invalid. 
The human problem is that we are Darwinianly programmed, like the wolves, to 
believe that … the boss is right. It makes sense in situation of conflict when 
decision must be made quickly, and that tell us that humans have evolved a lot 
through conflicts with itself. But we can learn from this, and try to better 
behave with our pals.
Bruno





  5. Why in “The Descent of Man” (1871), Darwin ranked races in terms of their 
nearness and likeness to gorillas? Why he proposed the extermination of 
"scientifically" inferior races?. Why he claimed that “inferior races” with 
much higher birthrates than "superior" races, would drain the resources needed 
for the survival of better people, eventually dragging down all civilization? 
Why Darwin even argued that the mentally ill, or those with birth defects are 
unfit members of our species who ought not to survive? 
http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php
  6. Why the WAMP in their curricula never mentions that Socialist, 
evolutionist pagan Hitler and Marxist evolutionist pagans Stalin and Mao and 
Fascist evolutionist dictator Mussolini consented by silence or active 
participation in the murder of millions of innocent people labelled as 
inferior?  7. What is the one thing in comm

Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Bruno Marchal]

> On 3 May 2021, at 17:09, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> Speech by Senator Tim Scott: 
> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/read-sen-tim-scott-s-speech-rnc-n1237978
>  
> ...
>  “ America is not Racist…”
> MSNBC host Tiffany Cross made it clear that she was angry with Scott's 
> characterization of America, saying Scott — the lone black U.S. senator — has 
> "no sense" and "sounded a stone fool" when he absolved America of being 
> inherently racist. She misapplies “Stockholm Syndrome” to an independent, 
> FREE critical thinker. 
> https://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-tiffany-cross-slams-tim-134742377.html 
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
> If America is racist (because of the global bane of Slave Traffic— human 
> traffic still vogue), why races of all genera ALWAYS and still want to 
> emigrate en masse to this once Puritan America?  There are “Life issues” 
> never discussed by Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism) [WAMP]:
> 1 .  Is consciousness (life) an ENDOWMENT or EVOLVEMENT in the physical world 
> of quantum particles of fermions, quarks, dark matter and their chemistries 
> (Note: 3 below)?  If it is an EVOLVEMENT, what was its very first 
> “aseitousprogenitor”--- dead electron, proton, neutron or some combination of 
> them? If it is an ENDOWMENT, who or what is the ENDOWER with aseity? The 
> answer contributes to human civilizations and makes the unbridgeable 
> difference between paganism (from the great pagan Egyptian to Greco Roman 
> civilizations) & non-paganism [Augustinianism from Adonai (plural) YHWH 
> (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) with Patriarchal, Prophetic and Apostolic 
> imprimatur] and non-pagan Abrahamic civilizations.  
>  
> 2. Is there any candidate for science today other than bio dark-matter of 
> negligible mass relative to electrons with bio dark-matter chemistry 
> (chemical bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and 
> octets) to describe a real invisible individual “self”?   (See note 1 below) 
>  
> 3 . Why “Origin” is mentioned only in the Title, not once in the Text, of 
> Darwin’s Book “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the 
> Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life ”. 
>  
> 4.  Why the racism propagated by the non-evidentialist Darwin is ignored by 
> the WAMP? Why did he “scientifically” propose to eliminate "the negro and 
> Australian peoples [aborigines]," whom he considered as savages whose 
> continued survival according to him was hindering the progress of 
> civilization? 
> (http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php
>  
> ).



Because it is very common that the greatest genius are the one saying the 
greatest stupidity, especially when applying their ideas too much quickly.

It is up to us, the readers or students, to filter what is valid from what is 
invalid. 

The human problem is that we are Darwinianly programmed, like the wolves, to 
believe that … the boss is right. It makes sense in situation of conflict when 
decision must be made quickly, and that tell us that humans have evolved a lot 
through conflicts with itself. But we can learn from this, and try to better 
behave with our pals.

Bruno





>  
> 5. Why in “The Descent of Man” (1871), Darwin ranked races in terms of their 
> nearness and likeness to gorillas? Why he proposed the extermination of 
> "scientifically" inferior races?. Why he claimed that “inferior races” with 
> much higher birthrates than "superior" races, would drain the resources 
> needed for the survival of better people, eventually dragging down all 
> civilization? Why Darwin even argued that the mentally ill, or those with 
> birth defects are unfit members of our species who ought not to survive? 
> http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php
>  
> 
>  
> 6. Why the WAMP in their curricula never mentions that Socialist, 
> evolutionist pagan Hitler and Marxist evolutionist pagans Stalin and Mao and 
> Fascist evolutionist dictator Mussolini consented by silence or active 
> participation in the murder of millions of innocent people labelled as 
> inferior?
>  
> 7. What is the one thing in common between these dictators with un-awakened 
> pagan consciousness, if not a staunch belief in un-evidential Darwinism?
>  
> 8. When and where was Slave Trade legally abolished for the FIRST TIME in 
> human history followed by USA, about 6 decades later? 
>  
> 9.  What is the one thing in common between the British MP William 
> Wilberforce (protege of John Newton), Neo-Platonist Augustine of Hippo, 
> 

Re: Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Lawrence Crowell]

>
> 10.  Why doesn’t the WAMP admit and propagate cheerfully the truth that 
> America is not a product of Tao, TM, Mantra, Yoga, New Age, occult, Jungian 
> sorcery, or Socialist-Marxist-Fascist dictatorship, but rather it is a 
> result of the “Two Great Awakenings” with roots to Puritan/Wesleyan 
> Revivals, Reformation, Augustinianism, Mars Hill discourse of Rabbi Saul of 
> Tarsus (*Acts 17*), the Apostles, the Prophets and the Patriarchs? (*See 
> note 2 below*)
>

It is really not the product of Christianity either. The basis of the 
United States of America is the intellectual enlightenment that 
corresponded with the scientific revolution. It is not based on either 
pagan darkness or Christian ignorance and superstition.

LC 

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Senator's "My American Story" Is a Result of Awakened-Bo Dark-Matter Body

[Philip Benjamin]

Speech by Senator Tim Scott: 
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/read-sen-tim-scott-s-speech-rnc-n1237978...
 " America is not Racist..."
MSNBC host Tiffany Cross made it clear that she was angry with Scott's 
characterization of America, saying Scott - the lone black U.S. senator - has 
"no sense" and "sounded a stone fool" when he absolved America of being 
inherently racist. She misapplies "Stockholm Syndrome" to an independent, FREE 
critical thinker. 
https://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-tiffany-cross-slams-tim-134742377.html
[Philip Benjamin]
If America is racist (because of the global bane of Slave Traffic- human 
traffic still vogue), why races of all genera ALWAYS and still want to emigrate 
en masse to this once Puritan America?  There are "Life issues" never discussed 
by Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism) [WAMP]:
1 .  Is consciousness (life) an ENDOWMENT or EVOLVEMENT in the physical world 
of quantum particles of fermions, quarks, dark matter and their chemistries 
(Note: 3 below)?  If it is an EVOLVEMENT, what was its very first "aseitous 
progenitor"--- dead electron, proton, neutron or some combination of them? If 
it is an ENDOWMENT, who or what is the ENDOWER with aseity? The answer 
contributes to human civilizations and makes the unbridgeable difference 
between paganism (from the great pagan Egyptian to Greco Roman civilizations) & 
non-paganism [Augustinianism from Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim 
(uni-plural) with Patriarchal, Prophetic and Apostolic imprimatur] and 
non-pagan Abrahamic civilizations.

2. Is there any candidate for science today other than bio dark-matter of 
negligible mass relative to electrons with bio dark-matter chemistry (chemical 
bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets) to 
describe a real invisible individual "self"?   (See note 1 below)

3 . Why "Origin" is mentioned only in the Title, not once in the Text, of 
Darwin's Book "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the 
Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life ".

4.  Why the racism propagated by the non-evidentialist Darwin is ignored by the 
WAMP? Why did he "scientifically" propose to eliminate "the negro and 
Australian peoples [aborigines]," whom he considered as savages whose continued 
survival according to him was hindering the progress of civilization? 
(http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php).

5. Why in "The Descent of Man" (1871), Darwin ranked races in terms of their 
nearness and likeness to gorillas? Why he proposed the extermination of 
"scientifically" inferior races?. Why he claimed that "inferior races" with 
much higher birthrates than "superior" races, would drain the resources needed 
for the survival of better people, eventually dragging down all civilization? 
Why Darwin even argued that the mentally ill, or those with birth defects are 
unfit members of our species who ought not to survive? 
http://mwilliams.info/archive/2008/02/the-full-title-of-darwins-on-the-origin-of-species.php

6. Why the WAMP in their curricula never mentions that Socialist, evolutionist 
pagan Hitler and Marxist evolutionist pagans Stalin and Mao and Fascist 
evolutionist dictator Mussolini consented by silence or active participation in 
the murder of millions of innocent people labelled as inferior?

7. What is the one thing in common between these dictators with un-awakened 
pagan consciousness, if not a staunch belief in un-evidential Darwinism?

8. When and where was Slave Trade legally abolished for the FIRST TIME in human 
history followed by USA, about 6 decades later?

9.  What is the one thing in common between the British MP William Wilberforce 
(protege of John Newton), Neo-Platonist Augustine of Hippo, Neo-Aristotelian 
Thomas Aquinas, Augustinian Monk Martin Luther the Reformer, Puritan scientist 
Michel Faraday, Puritan Pilgrims, if it is not an awakened non-pagan 
consciousness?

10.  Why doesn't the WAMP admit and propagate cheerfully the truth that America 
is not a product of Tao, TM, Mantra, Yoga, New Age, occult, Jungian sorcery, or 
Socialist-Marxist-Fascist dictatorship, but rather it is a result of the "Two 
Great Awakenings" with roots to Puritan/Wesleyan Revivals, Reformation, 
Augustinianism, Mars Hill discourse of Rabbi Saul of Tarsus (Acts 17), the 
Apostles, the Prophets and the Patriarchs? (See note 2 below)

  NOTE  1.  From the very moment of conception, the resonant  "dark" & 
"light" twins are formed recognizing each other-the basis for at least 
self-awareness. Resonance is rudimentary recognition. Light matter bodies are 
electric, entropic and decaying. Dark-matter bodies are non-electric, 
nonentropic and undying. The chasm between death and life is obviously abysmal 
and beyond the scope of science. When a light matter twin dies, the dark twin 
will be left at a negative energy state of at least -E = - mC^2 where m is the 
mass of the