RE: Haiku Friday

2001-12-27 Thread Jennifer Baker

Scaredy cat.

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


note to self: I don't care how much Roger tries to bribe me, do not hire
Jennifer

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

I had a browser opened to monster.com whenever my manager visited my office.

I created a rule that responded to every piece of email from my manager with
the subject line Groupshield Sucks.
Every time I was called in the wee hours of the morning about an Exchange
problem that was a result of Groupshield updates or scanning, I called my
manager and woke him up.

Disclaimer: These methods are not recommended and may cause undesired
results.

-Original Message-
From: Aarts, Jan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


Way to Go...
How did you do that ?

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday


Sybari will reign
In my environment soon
Groupshield, kiss my ass.

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RE: inbox repair tool

2001-12-27 Thread Couch, Nate

2GB PST = VERY BAD.

I am not aware of any other repair tool besides SCANPST.  If the PST cannot
be opened and the user does not have a backup there is not much you can do.
I have seen PSTs with far less get corrupted (and the user did not have a
backup) and the mail was unrecoverable.

The user may get mad, but the only person they can blame is themselves.  I
don't care if they are the CEO.  The mail is toast.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Sandeep Raghuraman , Gurgaon
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 23:26
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  inbox repair tool
 
 Guru's
I have a peculiar problem in repairing a PST file which got
 corrupted.Exchange server 5.5 with sp4Mails are downloaded  locally in
 personal folder for users with outlook2K.One user is having 2GB personal
 folder  which got corrupted.On running Inbox Repair tool it is giving
 error
 An unexpected error while runing scanpst...
 
 Mails in this file are very important for me.Is there any way by which
 these
 e-mails can be  retrieved or any other repair tool...
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Sandeep Raghuraman..
 
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FW: inbox repair tool..????

2001-12-27 Thread Vikas Juneja , Gurgaon

I know about pst2gb.exe which is available with Microsoft support ( not
downloadable on any internet site)
Maximum size limit for PST or OST IS 1.82GB as claimed by Microsoft..

Does anyone else aware of any third party software?? I know it is there.. I
read about it long back..

Vikas
-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: inbox repair tool


2GB PST = VERY BAD.

I am not aware of any other repair tool besides SCANPST.  If the PST cannot
be opened and the user does not have a backup there is not much you can do.
I have seen PSTs with far less get corrupted (and the user did not have a
backup) and the mail was unrecoverable.

The user may get mad, but the only person they can blame is themselves.  I
don't care if they are the CEO.  The mail is toast.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Sandeep Raghuraman , Gurgaon
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 23:26
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  inbox repair tool
 
 Guru's
I have a peculiar problem in repairing a PST file which got
 corrupted.Exchange server 5.5 with sp4Mails are downloaded  locally in
 personal folder for users with outlook2K.One user is having 2GB personal
 folder  which got corrupted.On running Inbox Repair tool it is giving
 error
 An unexpected error while runing scanpst...
 
 Mails in this file are very important for me.Is there any way by which
 these
 e-mails can be  retrieved or any other repair tool...
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Sandeep Raghuraman..
 
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Re: inbox repair tool

2001-12-27 Thread Tony Hlabse


- Original Message -
From: Couch, Nate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: inbox repair tool


 2GB PST = VERY BAD.

 I am not aware of any other repair tool besides SCANPST.  If the PST
cannot
 be opened and the user does not have a backup there is not much you can
do.
 I have seen PSTs with far less get corrupted (and the user did not have a
 backup) and the mail was unrecoverable.

 The user may get mad, but the only person they can blame is themselves.  I
 don't care if they are the CEO.  The mail is toast.

 Nate Couch
 EDS Messaging

  --
  From: Sandeep Raghuraman , Gurgaon
  Reply To: Exchange Discussions
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 23:26
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: inbox repair tool
 
  Guru's
 I have a peculiar problem in repairing a PST file which
got
  corrupted.Exchange server 5.5 with sp4Mails are downloaded  locally
in
  personal folder for users with outlook2K.One user is having 2GB personal
  folder  which got corrupted.On running Inbox Repair tool it is giving
  error
  An unexpected error while runing scanpst...
 
  Mails in this file are very important for me.Is there any way by which
  these
  e-mails can be  retrieved or any other repair tool...
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Sandeep Raghuraman..
 
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Schwartz, Jim

That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what types
of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how sensitive
your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti virus
vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across multiple
platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't think
your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but it
would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
towards antivirus.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  AV!  a full time job?
 
 
 Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
 Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.
 
 
 Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
 neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
 
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Andy David

m
someone dedicated


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what types
of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how sensitive
your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti virus
vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across multiple
platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't think
your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but it
would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
towards antivirus.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  AV!  a full time job?
 
 
 Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
 Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.
 
 
 Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
 neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
 
 e-
 
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar

Ya forgot to salute!! And stand on attention when ya speak to us...:-)

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus Role. BooYaa Sir!

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:25 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: AV!  a full time job?
 
 m
 someone dedicated
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what
 types
 of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how
sensitive
 your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti
 virus
 vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across
multiple
 platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't
 think
 your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but
it
 would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
 towards antivirus.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:AV!  a full time job?
  
  
  Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you
consider
  Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and
network/desktop.
  
  
  Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
 getting
  neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
  
  e-
  
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Garrish, Robert B.

Dear Eric,

Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of itself (updates,
scans, etc.).


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
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-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 05:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Schwartz, Jim

Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder doesn't mean I'm a
pirate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:27 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: AV!  a full time job?
 
 Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus Role. BooYaa Sir!
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:25 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: AV!  a full time job?
  
  m
  someone dedicated
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
  
  
  That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what
  types
  of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how
 sensitive
  your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti
  virus
  vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across
 multiple
  platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't
  think
  your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but
 it
  would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
  towards antivirus.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  AV!  a full time job?
   
   
   Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you
 consider
   Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and
 network/desktop.
   
   
   Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
  getting
   neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
   
   e-
   
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Drewski

I think it depends on the size of your organization, among other things.  AV
does tend to be something that, once set up, requires only Harry
PotterCONSTANT VIGILANCE!/Harry Potter and not a ton of maintenance.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Words - so innocent and powerless as they are, as standing in a dictionary, how
potent for good and evil they become in the hands of one who knows how to
combine them.  Nathaniel Hawthorne

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: Dangers/Virtues of IMAP vs OWA and HTTP

2001-12-27 Thread Drewski

I love the part where he explains how to run OWA on Apache.

-- Drew

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support of a cause we believe to be just.  Abraham Lincoln

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Dangers/Virtues of IMAP vs OWA and HTTP


OWA on IIS  ewww.  Unless of course you are lazy.

I could go on.

Yes, please go on.

William


-Original Message-
From: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Dangers/Virtues of IMAP vs OWA and HTTP


Hmmm...neither are good.  IMAP w/SSL w/b much better.

OWA on IIS, ewww. Nimda, Code Red, RDS exploits, I could go on.  Even
SSL won't save you much.

My .02

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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: Dangers/Virtues of IMAP vs OWA and HTTP


Any express opinions, on security or otherwise, on using Outlook Express
and IMAP (port 143)  vs Outlook Web Access and HTTP (port 80) to access
Exchange 2000 through the firewall?

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RE: inbox repair tool

2001-12-27 Thread Garrish, Robert B.

Dear Sandeep,

First of all, 51% or better of the members of this List Server
believe that PST files are bad.  So, you will probably receive a handful of
flame messages.  I, however, like PST files and see their purpose in
business.
I would copy the 2 GB PST file to another PC and then run SCANPST
from that PC.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Sandeep Raghuraman , Gurgaon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: inbox repair tool


Guru's
   I have a peculiar problem in repairing a PST file which got
corrupted.Exchange server 5.5 with sp4Mails are downloaded  locally in
personal folder for users with outlook2K.One user is having 2GB personal
folder  which got corrupted.On running Inbox Repair tool it is giving error
An unexpected error while runing scanpst...

Mails in this file are very important for me.Is there any way by which these
e-mails can be  retrieved or any other repair tool...

Thanks in advance,
Sandeep Raghuraman..

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RE: inbox repair tool

2001-12-27 Thread John Matteson

No Flames. Peace on Earth and all that sorta stuff.
Besides all the regular flamers are out of the office right now.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925
-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: inbox repair tool

Dear Sandeep,

First of all, 51% or better of the members of this List Server
believe that PST files are bad.  So, you will probably receive a handful of
flame messages.  I, however, like PST files and see their purpose in
business.
I would copy the 2 GB PST file to another PC and then run SCANPST
from that PC.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sandeep Raghuraman , Gurgaon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: inbox repair tool

Guru's
   I have a peculiar problem in repairing a PST file which got
corrupted.Exchange server 5.5 with sp4Mails are downloaded  locally in
personal folder for users with outlook2K.One user is having 2GB personal
folder  which got corrupted.On running Inbox Repair tool it is giving error
An unexpected error while runing scanpst...

Mails in this file are very important for me.Is there any way by which these
e-mails can be  retrieved or any other repair tool...

Thanks in advance,
Sandeep Raghuraman..

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Drewski

Are you a circus clown then?  :P

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est. (The designated hitter rule has got to
go.) -- Henry Beard

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder doesn't mean I'm a
pirate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:27 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: AV!  a full time job?

 Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus Role. BooYaa Sir!

  -Original Message-
  From:   Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:25 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: AV!  a full time job?
 
  m
  someone dedicated
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
  That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what
  types
  of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how
 sensitive
  your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti
  virus
  vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across
 multiple
  platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't
  think
  your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but
 it
  would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
  towards antivirus.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  AV!  a full time job?
  
  
   Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you
 consider
   Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and
 network/desktop.
  
  
   Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
  getting
   neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
  
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Drewski

What about the eyepatch and the pegleg?  Do THOSE mean you're a pirate?

-- Drew

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It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is
the parts that I do understand. (Mark Twain, american writer and humorist,
1835-1910)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder doesn't mean I'm a
pirate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:27 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: AV!  a full time job?

 Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus Role. BooYaa Sir!

  -Original Message-
  From:   Andy David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:25 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: AV!  a full time job?
 
  m
  someone dedicated
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
  That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what
  types
  of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how
 sensitive
  your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti
  virus
  vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across
 multiple
  platforms and can provide those wonderful Dilbert reports. I wouldn't
  think
  your environment at 1300 users would require a full time position, but
 it
  would require someone that dedicated some number of hours per day/week
  towards antivirus.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
   To:   Exchange Discussions
   Subject:  AV!  a full time job?
  
  
   Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you
 consider
   Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and
 network/desktop.
  
  
   Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
  getting
   neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
  
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread John Matteson

It could be, depending on the company (someone has already hit on a number
of different elements). It would also depend on how much AV your company has
in place right now. If you're going from ZERO AV protection, yes, it should
be a full time project until you have the layers of protection in place and
running.

This could be easily rolled into a generic network/computer security
position, which should be a full time job.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Bob Sadler

I disagree.  Personally I think if you are a large organization you
should have at least 2 people solely dedicated to keeping up with AV.

It's a tough job to always be on top, and would require constant
attention.  Someone should be in place to be able to send emails and
warn others of the hazards of virii on the horizon.

If you are in such a large organization and you can afford to hire
someone, I suggest you do so.  In fact, I would gladly leave my position
to take on an AV position in your company for 65K a year, full med and
dental benefits, 5 weeks vacation, a  free to use mobile phone, and
sodas and snacks provided in office.



Thanks,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 X194
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Dear Eric,

Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of itself
(updates,
scans, etc.).


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 05:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread John Matteson

Anything to get out of Kansas, right?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I disagree.  Personally I think if you are a large organization you
should have at least 2 people solely dedicated to keeping up with AV.

It's a tough job to always be on top, and would require constant
attention.  Someone should be in place to be able to send emails and
warn others of the hazards of virii on the horizon.

If you are in such a large organization and you can afford to hire
someone, I suggest you do so.  In fact, I would gladly leave my position
to take on an AV position in your company for 65K a year, full med and
dental benefits, 5 weeks vacation, a  free to use mobile phone, and
sodas and snacks provided in office.



Thanks,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 X194
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Dear Eric,

Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of itself
(updates,
scans, etc.).


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 05:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Bob Sadler

Either that or just get a job where I sit on my butt all day and answer,
Yes, sounds like a virus, have the PC Support Group reformat your
computer and you should be ok or Nope, you don't have one, but thanks
for calling.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 X194
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Anything to get out of Kansas, right?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I disagree.  Personally I think if you are a large organization you
should have at least 2 people solely dedicated to keeping up with AV.

It's a tough job to always be on top, and would require constant
attention.  Someone should be in place to be able to send emails and
warn others of the hazards of virii on the horizon.

If you are in such a large organization and you can afford to hire
someone, I suggest you do so.  In fact, I would gladly leave my position
to take on an AV position in your company for 65K a year, full med and
dental benefits, 5 weeks vacation, a  free to use mobile phone, and
sodas and snacks provided in office.



Thanks,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 X194
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


**Please note, if you do not understand what SARCASM is, please be
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-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Dear Eric,

Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of itself
(updates,
scans, etc.).


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 05:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: A call ndr

2001-12-27 Thread Kiran, Murat

I ltry this option after chrismas

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:09 AM
Aan: Exchange Discussions
Onderwerp: RE: A call ndr


I am sure there is a tool in the bork that fixes this, and it might be
the
one known as clean sweep, but look up what's in there and look at the
help
files.

I'm also sure that it's in the archives, but those are known to be less
than
reliable.

-Original Message-
From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A call ndr


Brothers and sisters,

I still have the same problem after i tried is/ds adjustment.
To remember:
the sender of calender meeting recieves ndr voor the recipient and also
in some cases some messages.

When i study ndr messege i notice that the recipient which is mentioned
is the old (in most cases the second mailbox of the same user which has
been deleted )mailbox.

for example:
I send a message or a meeting request to murat but i recieve ndr for
murat2 after a while i recieve thatmessage has been delivered. And the
reciever has the calender meeting request.

In messages case if it goes wrong he event recieve the message but if
you send the same message again he recieves it.

This is being irritating.

Has some one has a genius idea.

Exchange 5.5 sp 3 with is, mta, ds post fixes, outlook 98,  nt sp6a.

kind regards

murat

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Changing OBJ-Container

2001-12-27 Thread Friese, Casey

Is there a way in Exchange 5.5 sp4 to change a mailbox's OBJ-Container after
it has already been applied to the generic recipients container?  Is this
possible to do without a directory export/import?


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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Garrish, Robert B.

Dear Bob,

Eric mentioned that he had 1300 users.
I am wondering, How many NT Servers, or Total Servers?.  How many
Laptops and PCs?

Wawa has one NT Server and one NT Workstation in each Store (525
Stores, and growing).
The Server Farm at HQ has just over 90 NT Servers.
We have 500 Laptop Users and 400 PC Users.

The NT Servers are running NetShield 4.5, and are updated once a
week.
The Exchange Servers are running GroupShield 4.0.4 and are also
updated once a week.  I perform manual updates during virus alerts, but
that is not a full time position.
The Client configuration is part of the standard build (both Windows
95 and Windows 2000) for a weekly update.

Once setup, what else needs to be done?  What else warrants another
full time employee?

By the way, this is not a commercial for Network Associates.  I
recognize that other anti virus software applications are just as easily
administrated.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 09:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I disagree.  Personally I think if you are a large organization you
should have at least 2 people solely dedicated to keeping up with AV.

It's a tough job to always be on top, and would require constant
attention.  Someone should be in place to be able to send emails and
warn others of the hazards of virii on the horizon.

If you are in such a large organization and you can afford to hire
someone, I suggest you do so.  In fact, I would gladly leave my position
to take on an AV position in your company for 65K a year, full med and
dental benefits, 5 weeks vacation, a  free to use mobile phone, and
sodas and snacks provided in office.



Thanks,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 X194
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Dear Eric,

Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of itself
(updates,
scans, etc.).


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 05:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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Setting Permissions on Public Folders

2001-12-27 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE)

Exchange 5.5 SP4.

We have a large number of public folders and I would like to add a user as
an owner of the folders.  I'm looking for a way to import that information
versus selecting each folder and manually doing it.  I'm familiar with
directory export and exporting mailbox and importing of such, but never had
a need to do so for public folders.   

Pete Pfefferkorn
Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
University of Cincinnati
51 Goodman Street
Cincinnati, OH  45221
Phone - (513) 556-9076
Fax - (513) 556-2042


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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Bob Sadler

Dear Robert,

Does this mean you aren't interested in hiring me for such a position?



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 X194
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Dear Bob,

Eric mentioned that he had 1300 users.
I am wondering, How many NT Servers, or Total Servers?.  How
many
Laptops and PCs?

Wawa has one NT Server and one NT Workstation in each Store (525
Stores, and growing).
The Server Farm at HQ has just over 90 NT Servers.
We have 500 Laptop Users and 400 PC Users.

The NT Servers are running NetShield 4.5, and are updated once a
week.
The Exchange Servers are running GroupShield 4.0.4 and are also
updated once a week.  I perform manual updates during virus alerts,
but
that is not a full time position.
The Client configuration is part of the standard build (both
Windows
95 and Windows 2000) for a weekly update.

Once setup, what else needs to be done?  What else warrants
another
full time employee?

By the way, this is not a commercial for Network Associates.  I
recognize that other anti virus software applications are just as easily
administrated.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 09:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I disagree.  Personally I think if you are a large organization you
should have at least 2 people solely dedicated to keeping up with AV.

It's a tough job to always be on top, and would require constant
attention.  Someone should be in place to be able to send emails and
warn others of the hazards of virii on the horizon.

If you are in such a large organization and you can afford to hire
someone, I suggest you do so.  In fact, I would gladly leave my position
to take on an AV position in your company for 65K a year, full med and
dental benefits, 5 weeks vacation, a  free to use mobile phone, and
sodas and snacks provided in office.



Thanks,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 X194
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Dear Eric,

Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of itself
(updates,
scans, etc.).


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 05:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

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RE: Setting Permissions on Public Folders

2001-12-27 Thread Garrish, Robert B.

Dear Pete,

Use System Distribution Lists for administering the permissions on
your Public Folders.
Then it is a matter of SDL membership.


Rob Garrish
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Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
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-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 09:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Setting Permissions on Public Folders


Exchange 5.5 SP4.

We have a large number of public folders and I would like to add a user as
an owner of the folders.  I'm looking for a way to import that information
versus selecting each folder and manually doing it.  I'm familiar with
directory export and exporting mailbox and importing of such, but never had
a need to do so for public folders.   

Pete Pfefferkorn
Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
University of Cincinnati
51 Goodman Street
Cincinnati, OH  45221
Phone - (513) 556-9076
Fax - (513) 556-2042


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RE: Changing OBJ-Container

2001-12-27 Thread Roger Seielstad

Its not possible even WITH a directory export/import.

Object Container is the container in which the object resides. The only way
to change that is to move the object to a new container, which means
deleting and recreating the object.

Now, the delete and recreate CAN be done via export/import, but there is
that crucial middle step of saving the information in the object (in the
case of mailboxes).

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Changing OBJ-Container
 
 
 Is there a way in Exchange 5.5 sp4 to change a mailbox's 
 OBJ-Container after it has already been applied to the 
 generic recipients container?  Is this possible to do without 
 a directory export/import?
 
 
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RE: Setting Permissions on Public Folders

2001-12-27 Thread kim cameron

also, use the PF tools on the resource kit to set the permissions.

k
|;)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Garrish, Robert
B.
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Setting Permissions on Public Folders


Dear Pete,

Use System Distribution Lists for administering the permissions on
your Public Folders.
Then it is a matter of SDL membership.


Rob Garrish
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RE: inbox repair tool

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

And it would still be broken2GB limit and all that.

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: inbox repair tool


Dear Sandeep,

First of all, 51% or better of the members of this List Server
believe that PST files are bad.  So, you will probably receive a handful of
flame messages.  I, however, like PST files and see their purpose in
business.
I would copy the 2 GB PST file to another PC and then run SCANPST
from that PC.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Sandeep Raghuraman , Gurgaon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: inbox repair tool


Guru's
   I have a peculiar problem in repairing a PST file which got
corrupted.Exchange server 5.5 with sp4Mails are downloaded  locally in
personal folder for users with outlook2K.One user is having 2GB personal
folder  which got corrupted.On running Inbox Repair tool it is giving error
An unexpected error while runing scanpst...

Mails in this file are very important for me.Is there any way by which these
e-mails can be  retrieved or any other repair tool...

Thanks in advance,
Sandeep Raghuraman..

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New mail notification

2001-12-27 Thread Steve Van Eck

Recently, the client machines at my WAN sites stopped receiving new mail
notifications. I have a sniffer on my exchange box and conducted two
packet captures. The first is between exchange and a local machine.  Outlook 
is open when the capture is started, and a new piece of mail is sent to the 
clients mailbox. The first two packets seen are UDP and sent from Exchange 
to the client machine, notifying it of the new mail. The second capture is 
between Exchange and a client on the WAN. Following the same procedure, it 
appears that no UDP packets are sent to that client machine. Any ideas why 
the Exchange machine is not sending these packets out?
We are using Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 2000. The sites are connected via
frame relay. There is no NAT taking place and the routers have no filters 
set on them.
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RE: GAL and Address Book Views

2001-12-27 Thread Chris Scharff

Check the E2K FAQ in the link below, most of the address list population
rules there apply to 5.5 as well. 

Chris
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MessageOne
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 -Original Message-
 From: Smith, Calvin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:59 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: GAL and Address Book Views
 
 
 In Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.  In my test environment, I have 
 created Address Book Views.  Then I set an anonymous account 
 on the DS Site Configuration. I also gave the search 
 permission to the service account for the Organization and 
 gave search permission to Domain Users for the Address Book 
 Views.  There are two views and the permission is given at 
 the root.  I did all this in an effort to control which 
 folders of addresses the users would see when they run 
 Outlook.  It all works fine except for one issue:
 
 When running Outlook and checking the Address Book the 
 entries under Global Address List only include records seen 
 in one of the Address Book Views. Both address book views are 
 listed below the Global Address List and they show the 
 addresses that would be expected.  I thought that Global 
 Address List would contain all the records that could be 
 seen in the  address folders shown below it.  Can anybody 
 tell me why Global Address List in Outlook doesn't contain 
 all the addresses shown in the Address Book Views listed below it?
 
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RE: OOOA

2001-12-27 Thread Chris Scharff

Didn't I answer this question earlier this week?

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OOOA
 
 
 I have been trying to post a message the has Out o' Off. Asst. in
 
 the body and it doesn't get posted. Is there a way to turn this on for
 
 Eudora pop clients? This is a setting at the mailbox level is it not?
 
 Could you not use an ADSI editor to flip a switch or 
 something? This is
 
 for Exchange 5.5.
 
 
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RE: OOOA

2001-12-27 Thread Chris Scharff

I'd tend to disagree.

 -Original Message-
 From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:07 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OOOA
 
 
 Using CDO does it require that a MAPI client be installed on 
 the users workstation.
 
 Darrin Carter
 CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCA
 Senior Systems Engineer
 Elegrity, Inc.
 415.821.0900 (main)
 415.826.7758 (fax)
 415.726.0413 (direct)
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.elegrity.com
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:53 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OOOA
 
 
 Easiest way would be to have them set it via OWA. Barring 
 that, I believe it can be set via CDO (www.cdolive.com).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 12/17/2001 4:53 PM
 Subject: OOOA
 
 Out of Off. Asst.  Is there a way to turn this on for
 
 Eudora pop clients? This is a setting at the mailbox level is it not?
 
 Could you not use an ADSI editor to flip a switch or 
 something? This is
 
 for Exchange 5.5.
 
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RE: OOOA

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

It is part of Outlook, not Exchange. Though I believe it works with
Exchange.

Why are you using a POP client for Exchange anyhoo??

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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OOOA


I have been trying to post a message the has Out o' Off. Asst. in

the body and it doesn't get posted. Is there a way to turn this on for

Eudora pop clients? This is a setting at the mailbox level is it not?

Could you not use an ADSI editor to flip a switch or something? This is

for Exchange 5.5.


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Re: Changing OBJ-Container

2001-12-27 Thread Daniel Chenault

FAQ

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From: Friese, Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:38 AM
Subject: Changing OBJ-Container


 Is there a way in Exchange 5.5 sp4 to change a mailbox's OBJ-Container
after
 it has already been applied to the generic recipients container?  Is this
 possible to do without a directory export/import?


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Re: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

2001-12-27 Thread Daniel Chenault

Aruplabs.com... huh. Now we know where the odd message with subject X and
body ABC1234567890DEF came from. Wasn't real ethical of ya, Eric,
masquerading as someone else.



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From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Into pathology?
 We are ARUP , P as in Pathologists.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:14 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:13 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 So THAT's what's going on over in the Pathology lab.

 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981

 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



 -Original Message-
 From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 I usually carry a network cable with me.  Which tells them I'm either a)
 fixing a network problem or b) on my way to an SM party.

 Paul Chinnery
 Network Administrator
 Mem Med Ctr


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:04 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Be sure when walking through the office to always have a piece of paper in
 your hand. Look serious and keep referring it to it as you walk.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:05 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Easily counteracted by HHCLB [1]

 [1] Here He Comes--Look Busy

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 I've mastered sleeping with my eyes open. I only wake up for the daily
lunch
 time Unreal Tournament slaughter.

 Today I'm employing my favorite manager technique, MBWA [1]

 [1] Manage By Wandering Around

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:42 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Don't jinx it. The mangers are sleeping.

 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981

 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Sure is quiet today.

 e-

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RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

2001-12-27 Thread Hansen, Eric

I wasn't aware that we were spamming nimda.  Would you happen to have a
header I could look at?

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

Aruplabs.com... huh. Now we know where the odd message with subject X and
body ABC1234567890DEF came from. Wasn't real ethical of ya, Eric,
masquerading as someone else.



- Original Message -
From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Into pathology?
 We are ARUP , P as in Pathologists.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:14 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:13 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 So THAT's what's going on over in the Pathology lab.

 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981

 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



 -Original Message-
 From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 I usually carry a network cable with me.  Which tells them I'm either a)
 fixing a network problem or b) on my way to an SM party.

 Paul Chinnery
 Network Administrator
 Mem Med Ctr


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:04 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Be sure when walking through the office to always have a piece of paper in
 your hand. Look serious and keep referring it to it as you walk.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:05 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Easily counteracted by HHCLB [1]

 [1] Here He Comes--Look Busy

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 I've mastered sleeping with my eyes open. I only wake up for the daily
lunch
 time Unreal Tournament slaughter.

 Today I'm employing my favorite manager technique, MBWA [1]

 [1] Manage By Wandering Around

 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:42 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Don't jinx it. The mangers are sleeping.

 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981

 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Sure is quiet today.

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RE: New mail notification

2001-12-27 Thread Chris Scharff

Multiple NICs in the Exchange box? Are you sniffing for the packets
somewhere where you can definitively say the Exchange server is not sending
the packets?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Van Eck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:30 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: New mail notification
 
 
 Recently, the client machines at my WAN sites stopped 
 receiving new mail notifications. I have a sniffer on my 
 exchange box and conducted two packet captures. The first is 
 between exchange and a local machine.  Outlook 
 is open when the capture is started, and a new piece of mail 
 is sent to the 
 clients mailbox. The first two packets seen are UDP and sent 
 from Exchange 
 to the client machine, notifying it of the new mail. The 
 second capture is 
 between Exchange and a client on the WAN. Following the same 
 procedure, it 
 appears that no UDP packets are sent to that client machine. 
 Any ideas why 
 the Exchange machine is not sending these packets out?
 We are using Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 2000. The sites are 
 connected via frame relay. There is no NAT taking place and 
 the routers have no filters 
 set on them.
 Thanks
 
 
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Sorry people

2001-12-27 Thread Hansen, Eric

Apparently we were spamming nimda for 3 days starting on the 22nd, it
appears to have been fixed and I don't remember addressing it.  Long story.
Anyway if you got spam from us I am sorry.

Eric Hansen
ARUP Labs 

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RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

2001-12-27 Thread Amit Hanji

yeah, U shuld no use other persons mask.

===
Amit the CyBer DooD
===

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Aruplabs.com... huh. Now we know where the odd message
with subject X and body ABC1234567890DEF came
from. Wasn't real ethical of ya, Eric, masquerading as
someone else.



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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


 Into pathology?
 We are ARUP , P as in Pathologists.


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RE: Uninstall Groupshield (was Haiku Friday)

2001-12-27 Thread Chris Scharff

I had to write a script to uninstall the McAffe desktop AV product because
their uninstall didn't work Imagine my surprise when after first trying
the manual uninstall instructions supplied by their technical support to
the letter I wound up disabling any other NAI product installed on the
machine. Geniuses.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Uninstall Groupshield (was Haiku Friday)
 
 
 I have the 4 page version on How to uninstall Groupshield, 
 but I need the Attention deficit disorder version.

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Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Tener, Richard


Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

Do you ever read any whitepapers or manuals?  This is pretty friggin self
explanatory sh!t.

D

The road to a friend's house is never long. -Danish proverb

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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
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Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
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right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Tener, Richard

Don where all the white papers at!!

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?

If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a workstation...? -Anon

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Don where all the white papers at!!

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread John Matteson

If you are doing an Exchange aware backup Full usually means a full backup
of the database (DS/IS) only, plus flushing out the transaction logs, etc.

Anything else needs a regular file level backup.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

Tis not necessary.  You should backup the priv, pub, and log files.  Flush
the logs when complete preferably with Circular logging disabled.

D

Get all over this like a donkey on a waffle.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

Use an open file manager:)

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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Tis not necessary.  You should backup the priv, pub, and log files.  Flush
the logs when complete preferably with Circular logging disabled.

D

Get all over this like a donkey on a waffle.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

Why would you want to?

D

Revolution is a trivial shift in the emphasis of suffering. -Tom Stoppard

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Use an open file manager:)

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Tis not necessary.  You should backup the priv, pub, and log files.  Flush
the logs when complete preferably with Circular logging disabled.

D

Get all over this like a donkey on a waffle.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
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Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

Why not??? :)

Actually if it worked right it would be cool because it would be like having
an offline backup everynight.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Why would you want to?

D

Revolution is a trivial shift in the emphasis of suffering. -Tom Stoppard

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Use an open file manager:)

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Tis not necessary.  You should backup the priv, pub, and log files.  Flush
the logs when complete preferably with Circular logging disabled.

D

Get all over this like a donkey on a waffle.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Brian Ko

I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus
via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer
relationship with A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like
Technical Account Manager, TAM.  Once you have those communcation method
established, you have to have software that can distribute updates
automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

Uh huh...

Me thinks that theory is not AB approved.  ;o)

D

I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have. -Thomas
Jefferson

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Why not??? :)

Actually if it worked right it would be cool because it would be like having
an offline backup everynight.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Why would you want to?

D

Revolution is a trivial shift in the emphasis of suffering. -Tom Stoppard

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Use an open file manager:)

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Tis not necessary.  You should backup the priv, pub, and log files.  Flush
the logs when complete preferably with Circular logging disabled.

D

Get all over this like a donkey on a waffle.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

No...sadly it is not...I cant even approve my own theory

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Uh huh...

Me thinks that theory is not AB approved.  ;o)

D

I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have. -Thomas
Jefferson

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Why not??? :)

Actually if it worked right it would be cool because it would be like having
an offline backup everynight.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Why would you want to?

D

Revolution is a trivial shift in the emphasis of suffering. -Tom Stoppard

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Use an open file manager:)

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Tis not necessary.  You should backup the priv, pub, and log files.  Flush
the logs when complete preferably with Circular logging disabled.

D

Get all over this like a donkey on a waffle.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange



Hello All,

I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed on a NT Server
SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange directories
located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent installed and I
tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these directories up allready
right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the exchsrvr diectory and
still backup this IS. 

Thanks
Rich

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Drewski

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and
brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus
via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer
relationship with A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like
Technical Account Manager, TAM.  Once you have those communcation method
established, you have to have software that can distribute updates
automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

I remember in my last review my boss wrote
Martin watches over the Exchange server and the Antivirus like a hawk

That is the key. Pay attention. Even the best automated system needs to be
watched. Someone always needs to verify the latest patterns are being DL'd
and distributed, that the correct extensions are blocked, etc.
It doesn't need to be full time, just part time, done right.

-Original Message-
From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to have
software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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Outlook name not resolving

2001-12-27 Thread Mitchell Mike

Good afternoon group,

Happy Holidays

OUTLOOK 98 NT 5.5 SP4

I have a mailbox name that does not resolve when it is typed in its
completed name:  Kelli Kappus

When I key in Kell Kap or anything similar it resolves.

The problem I see is the directory name is Kelly.Kappus  We found out the
real name was Kelli so we changed it on the general tab.

Is this why the name does not resolve?

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno 

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Chris Scharff

Can I telecommute? If so, I think it might be appropriate as well.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, 
 the guy that does our AV wants a FTE created for it because 
 he feels it would be appropriate.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 How big is your company?
 
 Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?
 
 It varies from org to org.
 
 -- Drew
 
 Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
 Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in 
 the survivors and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin 
 Luther King, Jr.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
 position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person 
 since viruses
 do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
 A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when 
 there's new virus via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you 
 want to have closer relationship with A/V vendor, pay more 
 money to have someone like Technical Account Manager, TAM.  
 Once you have those communcation method established, you have 
 to have software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.
 
 My two cents...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 
 Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would 
 you consider Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both 
 email and network/desktop.
 
 
 Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems 
 to be getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
 
 e-
 
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Hansen, Eric

Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to have
software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Chris Scharff

Ah So what you really need is a highly paid consultant to administer ThE
sTiCk [tm] and provide a verbose action plan. I happen to be available for
that as well.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also 
 will be purchasing a Mcafee e500.
 
 A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and 
 several departments that are in charge of their own 
 equipment.  Just yesterday we ran into a lab that had 15 new 
 machines on our domain that we didn't know about.  All 
 without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 What are you using for your AV solution?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, 
 the guy that does our AV wants a FTE created for it because 
 he feels it would be appropriate.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 How big is your company?
 
 Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?
 
 It varies from org to org.
 
 -- Drew
 
 Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
 Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in 
 the survivors and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin 
 Luther King, Jr.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
 position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person 
 since viruses
 do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
 A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when 
 there's new virus via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you 
 want to have closer relationship with A/V vendor, pay more 
 money to have someone like Technical Account Manager, TAM.  
 Once you have those communcation method established, you have 
 to have software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.
 
 My two cents...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 
 Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would 
 you consider Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both 
 email and network/desktop.
 
 
 Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems 
 to be getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
 
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
management.
In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing departments to
manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed like a good
idea at the time, but not any longer.
There should be a central point of contact for all machines. Orders are
placed through that group and delivered to them for configuration and
delivery to the end users or departments. That way all hardware is fully
tracked and managed.
You should be using logon scripts as one method of pushing out AV installs
and DAT updates. That way for someone to login, AV software has to be
installed.

I would suggest rather than spend 50-60K a year for an AV tech, that you put
that time / money into better management. Ill bet you if you went to upper
management and said OK, we need a new hardware procedure, OR we need to
spend 60K a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to have
software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Drewski

I agree.  The idea that you could have 15 computers on your network (in your
domain?) without knowing about it is a clear indication that management ISN'T
doing its job...

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Pray that there is a god, my little flock, because only a god can stop the
eventual entropic destruction of the universe. (Schlock Mercenary -
http://www.schlockmercenary.com)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
management.
In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing departments to
manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed like a good
idea at the time, but not any longer.
There should be a central point of contact for all machines. Orders are
placed through that group and delivered to them for configuration and
delivery to the end users or departments. That way all hardware is fully
tracked and managed.
You should be using logon scripts as one method of pushing out AV installs
and DAT updates. That way for someone to login, AV software has to be
installed.

I would suggest rather than spend 50-60K a year for an AV tech, that you put
that time / money into better management. Ill bet you if you went to upper
management and said OK, we need a new hardware procedure, OR we need to
spend 60K a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to have
software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Hansen, Eric

At this point its sad to say the LAZY super is here to stay and so are the
independent departments.  So he is looking at the best way to deal with the
workload.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

I agree.  The idea that you could have 15 computers on your network (in your
domain?) without knowing about it is a clear indication that management
ISN'T
doing its job...

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Pray that there is a god, my little flock, because only a god can stop the
eventual entropic destruction of the universe. (Schlock Mercenary -
http://www.schlockmercenary.com)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
management.
In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing departments to
manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed like a good
idea at the time, but not any longer.
There should be a central point of contact for all machines. Orders are
placed through that group and delivered to them for configuration and
delivery to the end users or departments. That way all hardware is fully
tracked and managed.
You should be using logon scripts as one method of pushing out AV installs
and DAT updates. That way for someone to login, AV software has to be
installed.

I would suggest rather than spend 50-60K a year for an AV tech, that you put
that time / money into better management. Ill bet you if you went to upper
management and said OK, we need a new hardware procedure, OR we need to
spend 60K a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to have
software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be getting
neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Schwartz, Jim

No, he is looking to increase his empire. Let him hire another admin and
then use him for your own purposes when he's not working on AV. Within 6
months you'll have yourself a minion.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:18 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: AV!  a full time job?
 
 At this point its sad to say the LAZY super is here to stay and so are the
 independent departments.  So he is looking at the best way to deal with
 the
 workload.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:18 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 I agree.  The idea that you could have 15 computers on your network (in
 your
 domain?) without knowing about it is a clear indication that management
 ISN'T
 doing its job...
 
 -- Drew
 
 Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
 Pray that there is a god, my little flock, because only a god can stop the
 eventual entropic destruction of the universe. (Schlock Mercenary -
 http://www.schlockmercenary.com)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
 Blackstone
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:11 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
 management.
 In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing departments to
 manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed like a good
 idea at the time, but not any longer.
 There should be a central point of contact for all machines. Orders are
 placed through that group and delivered to them for configuration and
 delivery to the end users or departments. That way all hardware is fully
 tracked and managed.
 You should be using logon scripts as one method of pushing out AV installs
 and DAT updates. That way for someone to login, AV software has to be
 installed.
 
 I would suggest rather than spend 50-60K a year for an AV tech, that you
 put
 that time / money into better management. Ill bet you if you went to upper
 management and said OK, we need a new hardware procedure, OR we need to
 spend 60K a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
 purchasing a Mcafee e500.
 
 A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
 departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
 ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
 about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 What are you using for your AV solution?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
 does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
 appropriate.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 How big is your company?
 
 Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?
 
 It varies from org to org.
 
 -- Drew
 
 Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
 Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
 and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
 position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
 do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
 A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus
 via
 pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship
 with
 A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
 TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to
 have
 software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.
 
 My two cents...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
 Sent: Wednesday, December 

RE: inbox repair tool

2001-12-27 Thread Soysal, Serdar

Maybe he can open the PST in a hex editor, cut and paste half of it to a new
file and divide it in two.  Then he'll have two PST files both under 2GB.

Sandeep,
For a useful answer, please go to www.microsoft.com/technet and type My PST
is over 2 GB and click on the Search button.  You will get three articles
which tell you exactly how to solve your problem.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: inbox repair tool


And it would still be broken2GB limit and all that.

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: inbox repair tool


Dear Sandeep,

First of all, 51% or better of the members of this List Server
believe that PST files are bad.  So, you will probably receive a handful of
flame messages.  I, however, like PST files and see their purpose in
business.
I would copy the 2 GB PST file to another PC and then run SCANPST
from that PC.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Sandeep Raghuraman , Gurgaon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: inbox repair tool


Guru's
   I have a peculiar problem in repairing a PST file which got
corrupted.Exchange server 5.5 with sp4Mails are downloaded  locally in
personal folder for users with outlook2K.One user is having 2GB personal
folder  which got corrupted.On running Inbox Repair tool it is giving error
An unexpected error while runing scanpst...

Mails in this file are very important for me.Is there any way by which these
e-mails can be  retrieved or any other repair tool...

Thanks in advance,
Sandeep Raghuraman..

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RE: Monitoring email

2001-12-27 Thread Soysal, Serdar

Yeah but that won't catch everything.  What if the person sends a message,
then shift deletes it and empties his dumpster all within 30 seconds?  The
proper answer has been given by Tom and reinforced by Ed.  Don't stir the
waters now.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitoring email


I would probably set permissions to their mailboxes to allow whome ever you
want to open the mailbox so they can see what is going on in all the
folders.  That would allow constant monitoring without them knowing.

Alternatly, exmerge or export out the mailbox to a PST, to see what has
occured in the past.

Both are very simple and quick solutions that will allow you to build a
monitoring serve3r at your leasure.

Jeremy Johnston
Senior Consultant 
All Bases Covered

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RE: number of recipients

2001-12-27 Thread Soysal, Serdar

You know, make sure that the business side doesn't get pissed off when you
stop the spammers in your company.  We don't like spam, but some PHBs may
believe that it is a vital business tool.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: number of recipients


Thanks!  I'm psyched!  I can stop the spammers of my company

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Craig Manske

Any job where one is expected to be perfect is job is full time.  If you
don't think so ask all the Security personal who were sacked after I Love
You went around.  

Anti-Virus really should be included in the job description of your Security
Manager.  It also depends on the size of your environment.  Obviously if you
have 10 PCs you don't need a security manager.  But then again if you have
10 PCs you probably don't need an IT staff.  I would say that if your
environment is over 1000 PCs then it would pay to have a full time security
person.  If not, the guy who is assigned to do it should make sure he has
his manager signs a disclaimer, I will not be held responsible for any
damage caused to the network by viruii which were contracted while I was
accomplishing the task for which I was hired.  It's a bit harsh, yes, but
you need to protect yourself from those big fat corporate types in times
like these.

-cm

 -Original Message-
 From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 Dear Eric,
 
   Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
   The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
 automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of 
 itself (updates,
 scans, etc.).
 
 
 Rob Garrish
 Exchange Administrator
 Wawa Inc.
 610-558-8371
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 05:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: AV! a full time job?
 
 
 
 Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would 
 you consider
 Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and 
 network/desktop.
 
 
 Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems 
 to be getting
 neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.
 
 e-
 
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Anderson, Scott

How are they joining machines w/o your knowledge? Time to change some
passwords.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
Posted To: Exchange
Conversation: AV! a full time job?
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday
we ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't
know about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the
survivors and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus
via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer
relationship with A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like
Technical Account Manager, TAM.  Once you have those communcation method
established, you have to have software that can distribute updates
automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

e-

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Deleting Empty ABV's

2001-12-27 Thread Darren Ash


[Darren Ash]  I need to delete some emptry address book views but
when i try I am told i do not have permission. Logged in as Administrator,
NT4, SP6, Ex 5.5 (SP4). Any ideas anyone ? 



Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd 
London Road  Henley Road 
Teynham  Paddock Wood 
Kent Kent 
ME9 9PR  TN12 6DN 

Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 
Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831411 

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Craig Manske

Sorry our admin proxys out microsoft.com, he says since they're criminals he
rates their site right up there with hacking and porn sites. :)

-cm

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?
 
 If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a 
 workstation...? -Anon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Don where all the white papers at!!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 
 Hello All,
   
   I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed 
 on a NT Server
 SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange 
 directories
 located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent 
 installed and I
 tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these 
 directories up allready
 right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the 
 exchsrvr diectory and
 still backup this IS. 
 
 Thanks
 Rich
 
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RE: Deleting Empty ABV's

2001-12-27 Thread McGilligan, Sean

Darren,

The administrator may not be the administrator of the mail system!.

SMcG

-Original Message-
From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: December 27 2001 7:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Deleting Empty ABV's



[Darren Ash]  I need to delete some emptry address book views
but when i try I am told i do not have permission. Logged in as
Administrator, NT4, SP6, Ex 5.5 (SP4). Any ideas anyone ? 



Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd 
London Road  Henley Road 
Teynham  Paddock Wood 
Kent Kent 
ME9 9PR  TN12 6DN 

Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 
Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831411 

All business is conducted in accordance with the company's 
terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on 
request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated 
by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of 
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RE: Deleting Empty ABV's

2001-12-27 Thread Jasa, Ken

You should double check what rights you actually have.

-Original Message-
From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Deleting Empty ABV's



[Darren Ash]  I need to delete some emptry address book views but
when i try I am told i do not have permission. Logged in as Administrator,
NT4, SP6, Ex 5.5 (SP4). Any ideas anyone ? 



Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd 
London Road  Henley Road 
Teynham  Paddock Wood 
Kent Kent 
ME9 9PR  TN12 6DN 

Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 
Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831411 

All business is conducted in accordance with the company's 
terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on 
request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated 
by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of 
this company.

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Virus Alert - W32/Zoher@MM

2001-12-27 Thread Garrish, Robert B.

Dear DL Members,

Wawa received about six infected messages.
NAI has an extra.dat for it.

http://vil.nai.com/VIL/newly-discovered-viruses.asp

http://vil.nai.com/vil/virusSummary.asp?virus_k=99287


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Permissions necessary for public folder to receive SMTPmail

2001-12-27 Thread Soysal, Serdar

No, you can't really do it [1].  Because, the incoming SMTP messages are not
coming from your IMS, they are coming from individuals.  Also, both you and
Daniel are right.  In E2K, you need to give create rights to Anonymous as
opposed to Default.  However, in E5.5, default=create is what you need.  

S.

[1] You can always write a custom event and somehow go through the SMTP
headers to see if your IMS server is in the headers and reject the message
if it's not. [2]
[2] But why?  What on earth are you trying to accomplish?

-Original Message-
From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Permissions necessary for public folder to receive SMTP mail


Actually, if I give Default the 'create' right all is good, I've tried it.
(EX5.5) But I'm wondering if I can give the specific IMS user (if one
exists) the right.


Walden H Leverich III
President
Tech Software
(516)627-3800 x11
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.TechSoftInc.com 



-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 16:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Permissions necessary for public folder to receive SMTP mail


No. You have to give anonymous the permission.

- Original Message -
From: Walden H. Leverich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Permissions necessary for public folder to receive SMTP mail


 I have a public folder with an SMTP address. I currently have the
Default
 user permissions set to None, but with that setting I can't receive
 SMTP mail. If I give Default create rights I'm fine, but is there a 
 user I
can
 add that would only allow the IMS to create messages in there?

 -Walden

 
 Walden H Leverich III
 President
 Tech Software
 (516)627-3800 x11
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.TechSoftInc.com


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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Eric,

We are using the same AV you are and we are approximately the same size you
are.  We got the Symantec Corporate 7.6 upgrade about a week ago.  Side
Note:  With XP/NAV 7.6 installed on a workstation, you will have to turn off
your AV software before trying to burn a CD.

As Ed Crowley (ONE of my heroes among MANY on this list) is so fond of
stating, There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
problems.  Your management needs to do what our management here has done.
No server OR workstation is connected to our network, without our
permission...period.  People are going to whine and cry until they get used
to it, but both your life and theirs will be less stressful and simpler,
once this is done.

We have about 950 users, with about 1150 workstations and servers.  Two of
the departments in our IT org are the Help Desk and the Network
Infrastructure departments.  No workstation is allowed on the network
without the Help Desk first installing an image that contains all the basic
workstation apps, NAV for the desktop, SMS 2.0, patches, upgrades, blah blah
blah.  No server is ever put on the network without our Network
Infrastructure group building the server ourselves.  Once a server is built,
it goes into the cypher-locked server room...Nobody but the Ifrastructure
group has access to the server room.

Now...once you have all that in place, you are set to introduce the company
to SMS 2.0.  Our SMS Admin has created NAV packages, based on the
workstation type found by the login script.  The login script checks for
SMS...if not there somehow, it's logged in the SMS DB and the Help Desk is
sent out to install it.  Once that happens, the machine is assimilated,
software inventory is done, NAV is installed and the WS is virus scanned.
NAV on the WS is locked down and cannot be turned off.  The uninstall is
password protected.  If they *somehow* manage to get it uninstalled, then
the next time they logon, it's reinstalled.  NAV can be set up to download
the latest .dat files at a specific time, pushed out to distribution points
and then to the WS's and servers...much like SMS.

Not only that, but we also have a Linux 7.0 mail relayer running Qmail and
Qmail Scan that blocks attachment and subject types before ever getting to
the network.  We haven't been infected since before Melissa knock on
wood.

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188
-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like Technical Account Manager,
TAM.  Once you have those communcation method established, you have to have
software that can distribute updates automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, 

RE: Outlook name not resolving

2001-12-27 Thread Garrish, Robert B.

Dear Mike,

The name should be resolved if you use the Directory Name or the
Alias.


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook name not resolving


Good afternoon group,

Happy Holidays

OUTLOOK 98 NT 5.5 SP4

I have a mailbox name that does not resolve when it is typed in its
completed name:  Kelli Kappus

When I key in Kell Kap or anything similar it resolves.

The problem I see is the directory name is Kelly.Kappus  We found out the
real name was Kelli so we changed it on the general tab.

Is this why the name does not resolve?

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
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RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

2001-12-27 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Actually they renamed it again.  It's no longer MMS.  Now they call it
Secure Mail.  

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


You can't really blame Kmart for this one.G Just remember, it all started
going downhill with the name change from Worldsecure to Tumbleweed MMS.

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

You can't do that.  Tumbleweed doesn't plug in to Exchange.  The other way
around is feasible though.  Use Tumbleweed as your DMZ SMTP and utilize SMTP
mail scanning and use ScanMail internally.

We've been using Tumbleweed for a few years now and I'm afraid their support
has gone downhill since we purchased it [1].  Now they want to charge us an
outrageous amount for a version upgrade (more expensive than the original
purchase price) even though we have always had maintenance.  I would really
consider other products before committing yourself.  MailSweeper and Praetor
are the ones that I had liked.

S.

[1] Everything that touches Kmart seems to start having problems [2] [2]
Which explains the slow but steady decline in my mental stability.


-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


I would not dump scanmail...maybe I could leave Trend on the internet
gateway and run Tumbleweed internally in order to have dual coverage. just
an idea.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


I would stay with Scanmail. Why dump something that works perfect

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


We currently use Trend Micro Scanmail 3.52 and I couldn't be any happier
with it.  However, there is a plan in place to globally purchase the
Tumbleweed Product.  'They' want to know if we are intersted in using it if
they do purchase for the entire site.  Does anyone have any experience with
Tumbleweed?  I've never heard of it and their website is a bit vague. I
would have a very hard time scrapping scanmail, they have saved our butts
many times.  Maybe I could make a dual effort fighting  the virus attacks.
thanks...

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Doug Hampshire

I'm having a little trouble here. I wonder several things based on that
statement, including; why would you stay there, why the CIO/IT Director
would allow such idiocy, what failed dot.com did the admin that blocks
microsoft.com came from, and why would you stay there? [1]

[1] Yes Andy, I said that same thing twice.

-Original Message-
From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Sorry our admin proxys out microsoft.com, he says since they're criminals he
rates their site right up there with hacking and porn sites. :)

-cm

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?
 
 If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a
 workstation...? -Anon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Don where all the white papers at!!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 
 Hello All,
   
   I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed
 on a NT Server
 SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange 
 directories
 located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent 
 installed and I
 tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these 
 directories up allready
 right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the 
 exchsrvr diectory and
 still backup this IS. 
 
 Thanks
 Rich
 
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Ward, Stuart

Who has the ultimate responsibility for the overall functionality of the
network? If it's you, you're the boss  - change the passwords and tell them
to stick it!

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Other departments who have the rights to do it.  We have argued this to the
Nth degree, trust me its beyond all hope.  If we change passwords we get
chewed out and told to change them back.

-Original Message-
From: Anderson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How are they joining machines w/o your knowledge? Time to change some
passwords.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
Posted To: Exchange
Conversation: AV! a full time job?
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday
we ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't
know about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the
survivors and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus
via pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer
relationship with A/V vendor, pay more money to have someone like
Technical Account Manager, TAM.  Once you have those communcation method
established, you have to have software that can distribute updates
automatically and fast.

My two cents...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV! a full time job?



Just curious what some of the Exchange Admins think.  Would you consider
Antivirus a full time job?  I speak for both email and network/desktop.


Around here it isn't, although we wish it was cause it seems to be
getting neglected.  We are around 1300 users right now.

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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Hansen, Eric

Can I quote you on some of this?  I'm always looking for ammo when it comes
to changing my group to a more aggressive style.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

Eric,

We are using the same AV you are and we are approximately the same size you
are.  We got the Symantec Corporate 7.6 upgrade about a week ago.  Side
Note:  With XP/NAV 7.6 installed on a workstation, you will have to turn off
your AV software before trying to burn a CD.

As Ed Crowley (ONE of my heroes among MANY on this list) is so fond of
stating, There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
problems.  Your management needs to do what our management here has done.
No server OR workstation is connected to our network, without our
permission...period.  People are going to whine and cry until they get used
to it, but both your life and theirs will be less stressful and simpler,
once this is done.

We have about 950 users, with about 1150 workstations and servers.  Two of
the departments in our IT org are the Help Desk and the Network
Infrastructure departments.  No workstation is allowed on the network
without the Help Desk first installing an image that contains all the basic
workstation apps, NAV for the desktop, SMS 2.0, patches, upgrades, blah blah
blah.  No server is ever put on the network without our Network
Infrastructure group building the server ourselves.  Once a server is built,
it goes into the cypher-locked server room...Nobody but the Ifrastructure
group has access to the server room.

Now...once you have all that in place, you are set to introduce the company
to SMS 2.0.  Our SMS Admin has created NAV packages, based on the
workstation type found by the login script.  The login script checks for
SMS...if not there somehow, it's logged in the SMS DB and the Help Desk is
sent out to install it.  Once that happens, the machine is assimilated,
software inventory is done, NAV is installed and the WS is virus scanned.
NAV on the WS is locked down and cannot be turned off.  The uninstall is
password protected.  If they *somehow* manage to get it uninstalled, then
the next time they logon, it's reinstalled.  NAV can be set up to download
the latest .dat files at a specific time, pushed out to distribution points
and then to the WS's and servers...much like SMS.

Not only that, but we also have a Linux 7.0 mail relayer running Qmail and
Qmail Scan that blocks attachment and subject types before ever getting to
the network.  We haven't been infected since before Melissa knock on
wood.

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188
-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


I don't think this is a full time job.   If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation.   Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus via
pager, cell phone, email, etc.  If you want to have closer relationship with
A/V vendor, pay more money to have 

RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Schwartz, Jim

I say bully for him and that you feel that all the Unix/Linux sites are
devoted to hackers and people that waste their time so you're going to block
e-mails from sun.com etc. etc.

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:34 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 I'm having a little trouble here. I wonder several things based on that
 statement, including; why would you stay there, why the CIO/IT Director
 would allow such idiocy, what failed dot.com did the admin that blocks
 microsoft.com came from, and why would you stay there? [1]
 
 [1] Yes Andy, I said that same thing twice.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Sorry our admin proxys out microsoft.com, he says since they're criminals
 he
 rates their site right up there with hacking and porn sites. :)
 
 -cm
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:41 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?
  
  If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a
  workstation...? -Anon
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  Don where all the white papers at!!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  
  Hello All,
  
  I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed
  on a NT Server
  SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange 
  directories
  located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent 
  installed and I
  tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these 
  directories up allready
  right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the 
  exchsrvr diectory and
  still backup this IS. 
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
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RE: AV! a full time job?

2001-12-27 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Quote away!

You can also add in there that we were just subjected to a GOA (Gov. Office
of Accountability) audit of our network infrastructure and security
practices.  Due to about 5 people in this company that are infinitely
smarter than I am, we passed with flying colors and are now used as the
comparison standard for these audits.

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network  Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188
-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Can I quote you on some of this?  I'm always looking for ammo when it comes
to changing my group to a more aggressive style.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

Eric,

We are using the same AV you are and we are approximately the same size you
are.  We got the Symantec Corporate 7.6 upgrade about a week ago.  Side
Note:  With XP/NAV 7.6 installed on a workstation, you will have to turn off
your AV software before trying to burn a CD.

As Ed Crowley (ONE of my heroes among MANY on this list) is so fond of
stating, There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
problems.  Your management needs to do what our management here has done.
No server OR workstation is connected to our network, without our
permission...period.  People are going to whine and cry until they get used
to it, but both your life and theirs will be less stressful and simpler,
once this is done.

We have about 950 users, with about 1150 workstations and servers.  Two of
the departments in our IT org are the Help Desk and the Network
Infrastructure departments.  No workstation is allowed on the network
without the Help Desk first installing an image that contains all the basic
workstation apps, NAV for the desktop, SMS 2.0, patches, upgrades, blah blah
blah.  No server is ever put on the network without our Network
Infrastructure group building the server ourselves.  Once a server is built,
it goes into the cypher-locked server room...Nobody but the Ifrastructure
group has access to the server room.

Now...once you have all that in place, you are set to introduce the company
to SMS 2.0.  Our SMS Admin has created NAV packages, based on the
workstation type found by the login script.  The login script checks for
SMS...if not there somehow, it's logged in the SMS DB and the Help Desk is
sent out to install it.  Once that happens, the machine is assimilated,
software inventory is done, NAV is installed and the WS is virus scanned.
NAV on the WS is locked down and cannot be turned off.  The uninstall is
password protected.  If they *somehow* manage to get it uninstalled, then
the next time they logon, it's reinstalled.  NAV can be set up to download
the latest .dat files at a specific time, pushed out to distribution points
and then to the WS's and servers...much like SMS.

Not only that, but we also have a Linux 7.0 mail relayer running Qmail and
Qmail Scan that blocks attachment and subject types before ever getting to
the network.  We haven't been infected since before Melissa knock on
wood.

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188
-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


Symantec Corporate, 7.5.  Waiting for 7.6 to arrive.  We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.

A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own equipment.  Just yesterday we
ran into a lab that had 15 new machines on our domain that we didn't know
about.  All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

What are you using for your AV solution?

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?


At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having, the guy that
does our AV wants a FTE created for it because he feels it would be
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?

How big is your company?

Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job?  100,000 users?

It varies from org to org.

-- Drew

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Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors
and brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther 

Re: E5.5 connections same as E2K?

2001-12-27 Thread John Q

I am attempting to design a Exchnage solution that inculdes firewall rules.
I found a paper on E2K but no 5.5. Any help?
Can I use this?

-John Q

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RE: E5.5 connections same as E2K?

2001-12-27 Thread Andy David

Before you go any farther:
OWA or VPN.
There, your solution is complete.


-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 4:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: E5.5 connections same as E2K?


I am attempting to design a Exchnage solution that inculdes firewall rules.
I found a paper on E2K but no 5.5. Any help?
Can I use this?

-John Q

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RE: Exchange and Intranet

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

www.cdolive.com

Oh, and what version of Exchange are we talking about here?

D

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personality over character. -W. Somerset Maugham

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and Intranet


I'm helping to build the intranet for our company and I'm looking to have
the personnel Data (Phone Numbers, Direct Reports, Etc..) pulled from
Exchange. Does anyone have any recommendations or examples they may be able
to forward on?

 
 
 
 
Joshua Morgan
PROFITLAB
Network Engineer
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RE: Exchange and Intranet

2001-12-27 Thread Kevin Miller

5.5 or 2k: with 2kl that is all built into AD for you.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Morgan, Joshua
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and Intranet


I'm helping to build the intranet for our company and I'm looking to
have the personnel Data (Phone Numbers, Direct Reports, Etc..) pulled
from Exchange. Does anyone have any recommendations or examples they may
be able to forward on?

 
 
 
 
Joshua Morgan
PROFITLAB
Network Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Exchange and Intranet

2001-12-27 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Gentlemen  Ladies:

Setup:  One IMS, One Bridgehead, Three mailbox servers, One OWA Server.  All
servers are Windows 2000 Sp2. IMS, mailbox servers and bridgehead are
Exchange 5.5 SP4+3, OWA is Exchange 5.5 SP4+2.  

Problem:  I think I have my first major problem with the Event Store.  Got
the following messages in my Event Log:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcProcessSearchMessageEvent
Error: 0x8004011b

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcCreateLink
Error: 0x8004011b

I have searched the MS Exchange KB, but come up blank.  Everything
references EcGenerate, EcGet or EcDo functions.  Nothing matches exactly.

I figured I would run the isinteg.exe with the following switches:  ISInteg
-pri -fix -test alltests

Suggestions?

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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Information Store Problems???

2001-12-27 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Sorry...forgot to change the subject before sending last time...my
apologies.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:55 PM
To: 'Exchange Discussions'
Subject: RE: Exchange and Intranet

Gentlemen  Ladies:

Setup:  One IMS, One Bridgehead, Three mailbox servers, One OWA Server.  All
servers are Windows 2000 Sp2. IMS, mailbox servers and bridgehead are
Exchange 5.5 SP4+3, OWA is Exchange 5.5 SP4+2.  

Problem:  I think I have my first major problem with the Event Store.  Got
the following messages in my Event Log:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcProcessSearchMessageEvent
Error: 0x8004011b

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcCreateLink
Error: 0x8004011b

I have searched the MS Exchange KB, but come up blank.  Everything
references EcGenerate, EcGet or EcDo functions.  Nothing matches exactly.

I figured I would run the isinteg.exe with the following switches:  ISInteg
-pri -fix -test alltests

Suggestions?

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: Exchange and Intranet

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

Then check out CDOLive...  Otherwise, you may want to wait until to finish
your AD upgrade, upgrade to E2K and then use the AD features Kevin speaks
of.

D

When you choose your friends, don't be short-changed by choosing
personality over character. -W. Somerset Maugham

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and Intranet


5.5 for now I'm in the middle of moving to AD

 
 
 
 
PROFITLAB
Network Engineer
PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and Intranet


5.5 or 2k: with 2kl that is all built into AD for you.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Morgan, Joshua
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and Intranet


I'm helping to build the intranet for our company and I'm looking to have
the personnel Data (Phone Numbers, Direct Reports, Etc..) pulled from
Exchange. Does anyone have any recommendations or examples they may be able
to forward on?

 
 
 
 
Joshua Morgan
PROFITLAB
Network Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

2001-12-27 Thread Craig Manske

Come on people, do you see the :) at the end of the sentence?  It was
sarcasm...  I was trying to be humorous, I figured no one would believe such
an outlandish story, obviously I was wrong...

Sorry...

-cm

 -Original Message-
 From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 I had a #$%#$% step dad that was like that.  One time, the combustive
 properties of helium came up in our conversation (don't ask 
 me why).  He
 insisted that helium was a combustible gas.  I told him he 
 was wrong and
 eventually had to break out the Funk  Wagnall's to prove it. 
  The very
 first sentence under Helium stated, of course, that it was, in fact, a
 non-combustible gas.  His response was (I'll never forget), 
 How old is that
 encyclopedia?
 
 What a moron!
 
 Joseph Smith
 
 Network Administrator
 Perlos, Inc.
 5201 Alliance Gateway
 Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
 Work: 817-224-9012
 Cell: 817-999-7703
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
 
 
 Sorry our admin proxys out microsoft.com, he says since 
 they're criminals he
 rates their site right up there with hacking and porn sites. :)
 
 -cm
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:41 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?
  
  If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a 
  workstation...? -Anon
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  Don where all the white papers at!!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
  
  
  
  Hello All,
  
  I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed 
  on a NT Server
  SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange 
  directories
  located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent 
  installed and I
  tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these 
  directories up allready
  right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the 
  exchsrvr diectory and
  still backup this IS. 
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
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Re: E5.5 connections same as E2K?

2001-12-27 Thread John Q

I hear you, . . . but before you preach the gospel to me let me just tell
you, it's not what you think.
I need it for a client connection over a WAN. I know a bad idea, but I
really have no say, it's a done deal and they are paying $.
I just need to know what is used for Outlook clients to connect and OWA.
Setup:
2 exchange servers
200 users over a WAN (Frame)
OLK2K  98.
I need to separate the traffic, OLK and inbound mail traffic.

Thanks,
-John Q


- Original Message -
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: E5.5 connections same as E2K?


Before you go any farther:
OWA or VPN.
There, your solution is complete.


-Original Message-
From: John Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 4:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: E5.5 connections same as E2K?


I am attempting to design a Exchnage solution that inculdes firewall rules.
I found a paper on E2K but no 5.5. Any help?
Can I use this?

-John Q

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RE: Information Store Problems???

2001-12-27 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Don,

I did exactly that, and got seven hits on my query.  However, like I said at
the bottom of my message, none of them fit the description of my error
message.  I have checked the disk space on the server like Q196217
suggested, but it's fine.  I also checked to make sure that I hadn't turned
up the logging on something to maximum by accident and forgotten about it.

Jim B.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Information Store Problems???


Go here http://search.support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx and query on
Event ID 1025.  Looks like you need to run ISINTEG...

D

Hazards: There is an Island of Opportunity in the middle of every
difficulty, miss that, though, and you're pretty much doomed. -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Information Store Problems???


Sorry...forgot to change the subject before sending last time...my
apologies.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:55 PM
To: 'Exchange Discussions'
Subject: RE: Exchange and Intranet

Gentlemen  Ladies:

Setup:  One IMS, One Bridgehead, Three mailbox servers, One OWA Server.  All
servers are Windows 2000 Sp2. IMS, mailbox servers and bridgehead are
Exchange 5.5 SP4+3, OWA is Exchange 5.5 SP4+2.  

Problem:  I think I have my first major problem with the Event Store.  Got
the following messages in my Event Log:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcProcessSearchMessageEvent
Error: 0x8004011b

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcCreateLink
Error: 0x8004011b

I have searched the MS Exchange KB, but come up blank.  Everything
references EcGenerate, EcGet or EcDo functions.  Nothing matches exactly.

I figured I would run the isinteg.exe with the following switches:  ISInteg
-pri -fix -test alltests

Suggestions?

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: Information Store Problems???

2001-12-27 Thread Don Ely

I would still run ISINTEG and see if it finds any problems.  Don't have it
do any fixes, just run it and see what the IS looks like.

D

BSD Skunks the Penguin - Roger Seielstad

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Information Store Problems???


Don,

I did exactly that, and got seven hits on my query.  However, like I said at
the bottom of my message, none of them fit the description of my error
message.  I have checked the disk space on the server like Q196217
suggested, but it's fine.  I also checked to make sure that I hadn't turned
up the logging on something to maximum by accident and forgotten about it.

Jim B.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Information Store Problems???


Go here http://search.support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx and query on
Event ID 1025.  Looks like you need to run ISINTEG...

D

Hazards: There is an Island of Opportunity in the middle of every
difficulty, miss that, though, and you're pretty much doomed. -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Information Store Problems???


Sorry...forgot to change the subject before sending last time...my
apologies.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:55 PM
To: 'Exchange Discussions'
Subject: RE: Exchange and Intranet

Gentlemen  Ladies:

Setup:  One IMS, One Bridgehead, Three mailbox servers, One OWA Server.  All
servers are Windows 2000 Sp2. IMS, mailbox servers and bridgehead are
Exchange 5.5 SP4+3, OWA is Exchange 5.5 SP4+2.  

Problem:  I think I have my first major problem with the Event Store.  Got
the following messages in my Event Log:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcProcessSearchMessageEvent
Error: 0x8004011b

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   1025
Date:   12/27/2001
Time:   2:06:23 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   ERCEX06
Description:
An error occurred.
Function name or description of problem: EcCreateLink
Error: 0x8004011b

I have searched the MS Exchange KB, but come up blank.  Everything
references EcGenerate, EcGet or EcDo functions.  Nothing matches exactly.

I figured I would run the isinteg.exe with the following switches:  ISInteg
-pri -fix -test alltests

Suggestions?

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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Exchange Uninstall

2001-12-27 Thread mannjo

I am looking for a way to remove completely all files and all registry
entrees from a failed exchange 5.5 install on a 2000 machine that is in an
active directory environment.

What happens is the install goes fine, but just as it starts to replicate,
it fails.  

The error is the System Attendant can't find the file specified.  But no
listing as to what the file is. I don't want to rebuild this server just
because it is a pain.

What happen, is a tech had a bad Exchange CD.  She borrowed mine, and didn't
throw her's away.  Guess which CD she gave me back and thought was mine.

Her bad one.

So I am looking for documentation on all regentries, locations of all files
so I can manually remove this thing.  

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RE: Exchange Uninstall

2001-12-27 Thread Thomas Di Nardo

Why aren't you just re-burning the box? You didn't do this to a DC, did
you?

Did you try using the remove all option? What result?

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Uninstall

I am looking for a way to remove completely all files and all registry
entrees from a failed exchange 5.5 install on a 2000 machine that is in
an
active directory environment.

What happens is the install goes fine, but just as it starts to
replicate,
it fails.  

The error is the System Attendant can't find the file specified.  But no
listing as to what the file is. I don't want to rebuild this server just
because it is a pain.

What happen, is a tech had a bad Exchange CD.  She borrowed mine, and
didn't
throw her's away.  Guess which CD she gave me back and thought was mine.

Her bad one.

So I am looking for documentation on all regentries, locations of all
files
so I can manually remove this thing.  

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RE: Information Store Problems???

2001-12-27 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Don,

Here are the results:

Microsoft Exchange Information Store Integrity Checker v5.5.2654.62
Copyright (c) 1986-1997 Microsoft Corp.All rights reserved.
Started:12/27/01 16:31:35
Server name: ercex06.erc.rl.gov
Store path: F:\exchsrvr\MDBDATA\PRIV.EDB
Store size: 7952408576 bytes
Output log: isinteg.pri
Check mode: check only
Options: -pri -verbose -test alltests 

Starting test 1 of 20, 'Search Folder Links'
Finished Search Folder Links. Time: 0h:0m:11s
Starting test 2 of 20, 'Global'
Finished Global, number of rows = 1. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 3 of 20, 'Delivered To'
Finished Delivered To, number of rows = 274. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 4 of 20, 'Search Queue'
Finished Search Queue. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 5 of 20, 'Timed Events'
Timed event are : Expiration = 22, 
Finished Timed Events, number of rows = 22. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 6 of 20, 'reference table construction'
Finished reference table construction. Time: 1h:33m:33s
Starting test 7 of 20, 'Folder'
Warning: MsgFolder 323 (Fid=0001-00DB2E4E, Mid=0001-00DB73AE,
Inid=0001-00DA3CCA): PR_READ_RECEIPT_REQUESTED(0029000B) prop in
Messages table and MsgFolder table do not match.
Warning: MsgFolder 324 (Fid=0001-00DB2E4E, Mid=0001-00DB73AF,
Inid=0001-00D9F53D): PR_READ_RECEIPT_REQUESTED(0029000B) prop in
Messages table and MsgFolder table do not match.
Warning: MsgFolder 325 (Fid=0001-00DB2E4E, Mid=0001-00DB73B0,
Inid=0001-00D73AE4): PR_READ_RECEIPT_REQUESTED(0029000B) prop in
Messages table and MsgFolder table do not match.
Error: MsgFolder 36 (Fid=0005-00B9E188, Mid=0001-00083F8B,
Inid=0001-0119BF24): GetProp of 80010003 from MsgFolder Table returned
ecNotFound-MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND .
Warning: MsgFolder 36 (Fid=0005-00B9E188, Mid=0001-00083F8B,
Inid=0001-0119BF24): 80010003 prop in Messages table and MsgFolder table
do not match.
Finished Folder, number of rows = 11793. Time: 0h:34m:56s, number of errors
= 1, number of warnings = 4
Starting test 8 of 20, 'Deleted Folders'
Finished Deleted Folders. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 9 of 20, 'Message'
Warning: Message 434359 (Inid=002B-00A00912): Magic value missing from
PR_RTF_Compressed Header
Warning: Message 434359 (Inid=002B-00A00912): This message contains
incorrect RTF
Finished Message, number of rows = 449465. Time: 0h:8m:17s, number of
warnings = 2
Starting test 10 of 20, 'Attachment'
Finished Attachment, number of rows = 216656. Time: 0h:2m:4s
Starting test 11 of 20, 'Mailbox'
Finished Mailbox, number of rows = 401. Time: 0h:0m:4s
Starting test 12 of 20, 'Receive Folder'
Finished Receive Folder, number of rows = 1604. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 13 of 20, 'ACL Member'
Finished ACL Member, number of rows = 167. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 14 of 20, 'ACL List'
Finished ACL List, number of rows = 447. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 15 of 20, 'Oof History'
Finished Oof History, number of rows = 421. Time: 0h:0m:1s
Starting test 16 of 20, 'Per-User Read'
Finished Per-User Read, number of rows = 639. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 17 of 20, 'special folders'
Finished special folders. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 18 of 20, 'Message Tombstone'
Finished Message Tombstone, number of rows = 2550. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 19 of 20, 'Folder Tombstone'
Finished Folder Tombstone. Time: 0h:0m:0s
Starting test 20 of 20, 'reference count verification'
Finished reference count verification. Time: 0h:10m:52s
The Information Store has been shut down clean.
Hence disabling the Row Count/Dumpster Count test.
Specify -test rowcounts (or) -test dumpsterref explicitly to run this test

. . . . . SUMMARY . . . . .
Total number of tests : 20
Total number of warnings : 6
Total number of errors : 1
Total number of fixes : 0
Total time : 2h:30m:2s

I think Test #6 took so long because I bumped the keyboard.  I left it for
the amount of time that it took, and finally hit CTRL-C and forced it to the
next test.  I'll rerun the individual test in the morning.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Information Store Problems???


I would still run ISINTEG and see if it finds any problems.  Don't have it
do any fixes, just run it and see what the IS looks like.

D

BSD Skunks the Penguin - Roger Seielstad

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Information Store Problems???


Don,

I did exactly that, and got seven hits on my query.  However, like I said at
the bottom of my message, none of them fit the description of my error
message.  I have checked the disk space on the server like Q196217
suggested, but it's fine.  I also checked to make sure that I hadn't turned
up the logging on something to maximum by accident and forgotten about it.

Jim B.


RE: Deleting Empty ABV's

2001-12-27 Thread Darren Ash

I have tried logging on as the service account but that didnt work either.
(Is that what you meant ?) As a strange side effect, i have built a test
server without Ex SP4 and restored from our live system and it worked. As
soon as i done the SP upgrade it stopped working !

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:04 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Deleting Empty ABV's
 
 Logged on as Administrator, or an Exchange administrator? You need to be
 the
 later.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Deleting Empty ABV's
 
 
 
   [Darren Ash]  I need to delete some emptry address book views but
 when i try I am told i do not have permission. Logged in as Administrator,
 NT4, SP6, Ex 5.5 (SP4). Any ideas anyone ? 
 
 
 
 Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd 
 London Road  Henley Road 
 Teynham  Paddock Wood 
 Kent Kent 
 ME9 9PR  TN12 6DN 
 
 Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 
 Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831411 
 
 All business is conducted in accordance with the company's 
 terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on 
 request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated 
 by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of 
 this company.
 
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Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd 
London Road  Henley Road 
Teynham  Paddock Wood 
Kent Kent 
ME9 9PR  TN12 6DN 

Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 
Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831411 

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