date:20060907

 (snip)
  Thanks to both of you. Since reading Paul's post re Sattyanand 
and 
  Guru Dev's death, I have been thinking that the only point in a 
  discussion group with a supposed spiritual bent is to help one 
  another advance -- to share experiences, methods, teachings. 
It's 
  so easy to get sucked into sectarianism and fundamentalism and 
closed-
  minded bickering. -- I don't think it matters which/whose 
tradition 
  what comes from; it's all valuable to someone, sometime, 
somewhere. 
  
  The secrecy thing that shrouds TM is such reactionary and petty 
  separatism doesn't help anyone. It breeds jealousy, egoism, 
paranoia 
  and a general drag on evolution. 
  
  Again, thanks to you (and many others) -- there is still hope.
 
 
 Such things only matter if you worry about them. I can't even 
remember how to say my 
 mantra out loud without a lot of thought, so its not an issue for 
me.

This is a good point; 
The perfect use of the mantra: that it becomes so effortless;
That just the 'intention' to meditate begins the process...
No trying to remember anything;
Just completely in the moment;
With the mere intention, begins transcendence...
R.G.


 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
 'Mayi Amma is hundreds of years old.. She used towalk 
right
 into the sea
 and stay underwater at the sea bed years onend..

 The gospel according to t3rinity.

 Makes me wonder...when did stuff like this start being 
gospel
 and stop being fairy tales?

 My experience is that the more real, strong, vibrant
 and consistent spiritual experiences that people are
 having in a spiritual group, the *less* interest there
 is in the group with these sorts of things. And the
 fewer spiritual experiences people are having on a
 daily basis, the more interest there is in such things.

Probably true.  But I'm not interested in either one, so 
I wonder where that leaves me? :)  It's not that I'm not 
interested in the spiritual experiences (so-called) I'm 
just not interested in chattering about it--seems kind 
of pointless.

But others obviously are--so chatter away! :)
   
   Indeed, Sal. In fact, one of the distinctions made by
   some traditions between different two basic types of 
   spiritual seekers is that one type is more interested 
   in discussing/studying the experiences of others and
   and the other type is more interested/only interested 
   in having their own experiences.
   
   Within that (artificial) breakdown, I find it interesting 
   what type of experiences themselves different seekers 
   seem to be interested in and attracted to. Some seem to 
   be attracted to the more pragmatic types of experience, 
   and other seem to be more attracted to the more woo-woo, 
   very-possibly-fictional types of experience. I guess 
   it's the same distinction you see in mainstream religion; 
   some Christians feel drawn to Christ because of his 
   attitude towards the poor and the downtrodden, and 
   others can appreciate only the flashy stuff, the walking 
   on water and the miracles.
   
   Again, different strokes for different folks...
  
  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayi Amma/Maharishi Levitating?

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  on 9/5/06 11:49 AM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:
   
   Maharishi has publicly claimed that he is capable of 
 levitating.
   
  He has? I never heard that.
 
 
 
 Oh, yes. He most definitely did.
 
 It was on the Dick Cavett Show of the '70s.  He was on with Peter 
 McWilliams, Dr. Harold Blumenthal, and one other movement 
 person...maybe Charlie Donahue?  Can't remember the third person.
 
 Anyway, it was right after the flying was announced publicly and 
 Cavett didn't mince words.  He just straight-out asked him: can you 
 levitate.  And Maharishi responded yes.  Then Cavett asked him to 
 show him and Maharishi responded it's not for me to do but for you 
 to do (this is paraphrased as I am going on memory from almost 30 
 years ago).
 
 Does anyone else remember seeing this show and, if so, do you 
 remember it like I did?

Yes, I remember seeing that show; and I do remember Cavett asking him 
to demonstrate levitating for him;
But I also remember Maharishi avoiding the question,
on whether he could levitate or not;
I remember his response being more of:
I am here to teach, not to levitate myself.
Thinking back as best as I can remember:
(it would be good to get the tape, somewhere)
And Maharishi changed the subject; about levitating then and there-
But Cavett persisted, and Maharishi seemed very annoyed with him.
I remember Cavett even pulled on Maharishi's dohti, which was very 
disrespectful, or at least taken that way.
I don't think Maharishi ever appeared on any American Television 
Media, since that show..
R.G.
 

 






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[FairfieldLife] 'Academics claim 9/11 was 'inside job'

Fury as academics claim 9/11 was 'inside job'by JAYA NARAIN Last updated at 15:47pm on 6th September 2006 The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people dead was an "inside job", according to a group of leading academics. Around 75 top professors and leading scientists believe the attacks were puppeteered by war mongers in the White House to justify the invasion and the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries.The claims have caused outrage and anger in the US which marks the fifth anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Monday. But leading scientists say the facts of their investigations cannot be ignored and say they have evidence that points to one of the biggest conspiracies
ever perpetrated. Professor Steven Jones, who lectures in physics at the Brigham Young University in Utah, says the official version of events is the biggest and most evil cover up in history. He has joined the 9/11 Scholars for Truth whose membership includes up to 75 leading scientists and experts from universities across the US. Prof Jones said: "We don't believe that 19 hijackers and a few others in a cave in Afghanistan pulled this off acting alone. "We challenge this official conspiracy theory and, by God, we're going to get to the bottom of this." In essays and journals, the scientists are giving credence to many of the conspiracy theories that have circulated on the internet in the past five years. They believe a group of US neo-conservatives called the Project for a New American Century, set on US world dominance, orchestrated the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to hit Iraq, Afghanistan and later Iran. The group says
scientific evidence over the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon is conclusive proof. Professor Jones said it was impossible for the twin towers to have collapsed in the way they did from the collision of two aeroplanes. He maintains jet fuel does not burn at temperatures high enough to melt steel beams and claims horizontal puffs of smoke seen during the collapse of the towers are indicative of controlled explosions used to bring down the towers. The group also maintains World Trade Centre 7 - a neighbouring building which caught fire and collapsed later in the day - was only partially damaged but had to be destroyed because it housed a clandestine CIA station. Professor James Fetzer, 65, a retired philosopher of science at the University of Minnesota, said: "The evidence is so overwhelming, but most Americans don't have time to take a look at this." The 9/11 Commission dismissed the numerous conspiracy theories after its
exhaustive investigation into the terror attacks. Subsequent examinations of the towers' structure have sought to prove they were significantly weakened by the impact which tore off fire retardant materials and led the steel beams bending under heat and then collapsing. Christopher Pyle, professor of constitutional law at Mt Holyoake College in Massachusetts, has dismissed the academic group. He said: "To plant bombs in three buildings with enough bomb materials and wiring? It's too huge a project and would require far too many people to keep it a secret afterwards. "After every major crisis, like the assassinations of JFK or Martin Luther King, we've had conspiracy theorists who come up with plausible scenarios for gullible people. It's a waste of time." But University of Wisconsin assistant professor, Kevin Barrett, said experts are unwilling to believe theories which don't fit into their belief systems. He said:
"People will disregard evidence it if causes their faith to be shattered. I think we were all shocked. And then, when the voice of authority told us what happened, we just believed it." As the fifth anniversary approached, the 9/11 Scholars for Truth is urging Congress to reopen the investigation claiming they have amassed a wealth of scientific evidence to prove their version of the terror attacks.
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[FairfieldLife] Plutarch on mind

2006-09-07 Thread cardemaister



The mind is not a vessel to be filled. It is a fire to be kindled.
 Plutarch

http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/minitext/anxiety/index.asp
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Plutarch on mind

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 The mind is not a vessel to be filled. It is a fire to be kindled.
  Plutarch

Excellent find, card.

So many people believe in the former, so they keep
pouring stuff into their minds, and all that happens
is bigger, fatter, more bloated mind.

If they allowed them to burn, the result would be
a blazing light, and no more silly mind thinking
that it existed.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Within the silence of meditation a blue light will appear and 
   surrounding this blue light a wider white or golden light, this 
 is the 
   light of the all-seeing spiritual eye of the soul (the third 
 eye). Upon 
   entry therein the consciousness finds itself one with God in 
 nature 
   (Prakiti) also known as Krishna consciousness or Christ 
 consciousness. 
   
  
  
  Interesting. Who says?
  
   Within this blue light there will appear a white starlike light, 
 this 
   is the doorway to transcendental pure consciousness, Savikalpa 
 Samadhi 
   of which MMY speaks. When this Savikalpa Samadhi becomes 
 permanent in 
   Cosmic Consciousness and the Krishna or Christ consciousness 
 becomes a 
   part of the meditators *Samadhi* experience this is *God 
 Consciousness* 
   as MMY speaks, the Absolute fullness and Relative fullness. 
 Purnam adah 
   and Purnam idam, as Guru Dev was purportedly in.Sahaja-
 Samadhi or 
   all time natural state of Cosmic Consciousness.
 
 Ha, ha...says me, of course. Look, what does it matter, does it ring 
 true or not? You be the judge!.
  
 


Not to me, and not to whoever wrote/spoke the earliest mention of kundilini in 
the 
Upanishads, either. I think the TM-Sidhis administrator would term your 
statement 
beautiful unstressing:

http://www.geocities.com/advaitavedant/yogatattva.htm

7). It is impossible even for the Devas to describe that indescribable state.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Within the silence of meditation a blue light will appear 
  and surrounding this blue light a wider white or golden 
  light, this is the light of the all-seeing spiritual eye 
  of the soul (the third eye). Upon entry therein the 
  consciousness finds itself one with God in nature (Prakiti) 
  also known as Krishna consciousness or Christ consciousness. 
 
 
 Interesting. Who says?


That's the all-important question, you see.

If the source of a statement about meditation or spiritual
practice is not Maharishi personally, or some book that 
bears his official seal of approval, the knowledge cannot 
possibly be true or valuable and most likely is dangerous.

You've been infected by non-approved ideas, Billy. For
your own sake, you should go back to believing ONLY what
you have been told to believe by Maharishi. Anything
else is BAD for you. What is wrong with you...didn't 
you GET that after all those years of studying with him?  

:-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Plutarch on mind

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 The mind is not a vessel to be filled. It is a fire to be kindled.
  Plutarch
 
 http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/minitext/anxiety/index.asp



Hand-waving. Thre are known structural differnces in the female and male brains 
that lead 
to the *average* female (as though she exists) being less suited to math then 
the average 
male (see preceding parethetical).

LIkewise, some people have physical problems in their brain that bring about 
anxiety 
during tests and other high-stress, high-intellectual-demand periods. Sometmes 
that 
problem is associated with ANY testing, and sometimes with only one or two frms 
of 
testing. I suspect that math-testing is the most common form, but haven't seen  
or heard 
of any research on it. 

That's different than simple anxiety over test-taking, but the form with 
definite 
physiological problems in the brain does exist.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Within the silence of meditation a blue light will appear 
   and surrounding this blue light a wider white or golden 
   light, this is the light of the all-seeing spiritual eye 
   of the soul (the third eye). Upon entry therein the 
   consciousness finds itself one with God in nature (Prakiti) 
   also known as Krishna consciousness or Christ consciousness. 
  
  
  Interesting. Who says?
 
 
 That's the all-important question, you see.
 
 If the source of a statement about meditation or spiritual
 practice is not Maharishi personally, or some book that 
 bears his official seal of approval, the knowledge cannot 
 possibly be true or valuable and most likely is dangerous.
 
 You've been infected by non-approved ideas, Billy. For
 your own sake, you should go back to believing ONLY what
 you have been told to believe by Maharishi. Anything
 else is BAD for you. What is wrong with you...didn't 
 you GET that after all those years of studying with him?  
 
 :-)



It's an easy enough thing to dismiss. If you think that samadhi is a thing to 
be perceived, 
or that there is a consistent experience that always precedes it, you're wrong.

Period. End of story. Move along folks, nothing here to see (literally).






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Within the silence of meditation a blue light will appear and 
  surrounding this blue light a wider white or golden light, this 
is 
 the 
  light of the all-seeing spiritual eye of the soul (the third 
eye). 
 Upon 
  entry therein the consciousness finds itself one with God in 
nature 
  (Prakiti) also known as Krishna consciousness or Christ 
 consciousness.
 
 ---Refer to The Play of Consciousness by Swami Muktananda, 
and The 
 Bliss of Freedom by Master Charles (secretary to Muktananda for 12 
 years)
This seems to be Muktananda's description of his experience; but 
words, although flashy, would still fall short. Because words are 
devisive by nature, and the opening of the third eye, or spiritual 
site, or soul-realization, is by nature, an experience of unity, not 
seperateness. 
So, I could never relate to Mukatananda's description, myself.
But my would feel a closer description, might not be so flashy, but 
rather an enlivening of the 'perception' of 'oneness'.
R.G.






  Within this blue light there will appear a white starlike light, 
 this 
  is the doorway to transcendental pure consciousness, Savikalpa 
 Samadhi 
  of which MMY speaks. When this Savikalpa Samadhi becomes 
permanent 
 in 
  Cosmic Consciousness and the Krishna or Christ consciousness 
 becomes a 
  part of the meditators *Samadhi* experience this is *God 
 Consciousness* 
  as MMY speaks, the Absolute fullness and Relative fullness. 
Purnam 
 adah 
  and Purnam idam, as Guru Dev was purportedly in.Sahaja-
Samadhi 
 or 
  all time natural state of Cosmic Consciousness.
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Plutarch on mind

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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/minitext/anxiety/index.asp
 
 
 There are known structural differnces in the female 
 and male brains that lead to the *average* female 
 (as though she exists) being less suited to math 
 then the average male (see preceding parethetical).


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they're yours.  -- Richard Bach







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


snip
  Interesting. Who says?
 
 
 That's the all-important question, you see.
 
 If the source of a statement about meditation or spiritual
 practice is not Maharishi personally, or some book that 
 bears his official seal of approval, the knowledge cannot 
 possibly be true or valuable and most likely is dangerous.
 
 You've been infected by non-approved ideas, Billy. For
 your own sake, you should go back to believing ONLY what
 you have been told to believe by Maharishi. Anything
 else is BAD for you. What is wrong with you...didn't 
 you GET that after all those years of studying with him?  
 
 :-)

I appreciate your tounge in cheek response, and of course there will 
be those who cannot think, 'out of the box'. The mystery remains as 
to why MMY has chosen NOT to address this particular Yogic principle, 
as for me, I do not know why and can only speculate.

I do know by his 
current approach he has given me the great gift of knowledge and 
direct experience, perhaps this issue is deemed, 'too controversial', 
and so be it, if more people begin to experience higher 
consciousness. :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77

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snip
 It's an easy enough thing to dismiss. If you think that samadhi is a 
thing to be perceived, 
 or that there is a consistent experience that always precedes it, 
you're wrong.
 
 Period. End of story. Move along folks, nothing here to see 
(literally).

It's easy for you to dismiss 5000+ years of Indian religious history, 
not for me, though I have never experienced the opening of the third 
eye surely the principle, (like I have stated) is universal in Yoga and 
even in the Bible. (If thine eye be single, thy body will be full of 
light) What do you think Jesus was talking about? 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

2006-09-07 Thread wmurphy77

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wrote:

snip
 This seems to be Muktananda's description of his experience; but 
 words, although flashy, would still fall short. Because words are 
 devisive by nature, and the opening of the third eye, or spiritual 
 site, or soul-realization, is by nature, an experience of unity, not 
 seperateness. 
 So, I could never relate to Mukatananda's description, myself.
 But my would feel a closer description, might not be so flashy, but 
 rather an enlivening of the 'perception' of 'oneness'.
 R.G.

This was not Muktananda's description,nice try, close but no cigar! At 
any rate, the 'spinal highway' is the pathway of *decent* of the Spirit 
(soul) INTO matter and the *only*, yes I repeat, *only* way BACK to 
Spirit, thru awakening the kundalini up thru the Chakras to the 
Sahasrara the uppermost Chakra.this is Yoga 101. It's embarrassing 
most TM'ers don't know this stuff. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayi Amma/Maharishi Levitating?


  (snip)
   on 9/5/06 11:49 AM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:

Maharishi has publicly claimed that he is capable of 
  levitating.

   He has? I never heard that.
  
 
  Oh, yes. He most definitely did.
  
  It was on the Dick Cavett Show of the '70s. and he said  can 
you 
  levitate.  And Maharishi responded yes.  Then Cavett asked him 
to 
  show him and Maharishi responded it's not for me to do but for 
you 
  to do (this is paraphrased as I am going on memory from almost 
30 
  years ago).
  
  Does anyone else remember seeing this show and, if so, do you 
  remember it like I did?

(Detail, details, details...)
In thinking back more, I recall that Cavett said to Maharishi, after 
asking him to levitate for him, and Maharishi refused, he said:
You mean you can't levitate, or you won't meditate, which is it?.
Whereas, Maharishi responded by saying he was here to teach the 
thing, not to levitate himself...
Then Cavett asked again: Does that mean you can't levitate, 
yourself?
Whereas Maharishi avoided the question, and Cavett was remarking how 
rested Maharishi appeared having just flown in to New York, from 
Japan, and began adjusting the mic which was clipped to Maharishi's 
Dhoti, and it became rather annoying to see Cavett manhandling 
Maharishi, with his mic and everything.
 I don't think MMY appeared again on any American TV show...after the 
Cavett experience...
R.G.



 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
 wrote:
 
 snip
  This seems to be Muktananda's description of his experience; but 
  words, although flashy, would still fall short. Because words are 
  devisive by nature, and the opening of the third eye, or 
spiritual 
  site, or soul-realization, is by nature, an experience of unity, 
not 
  seperateness. 
  So, I could never relate to Mukatananda's description, myself.
  But my would feel a closer description, might not be so flashy, 
but 
  rather an enlivening of the 'perception' of 'oneness'.
  R.G.
 
 This was not Muktananda's description,nice try, close but no cigar! 
At 
 any rate, the 'spinal highway' is the pathway of *decent* of the 
Spirit 
 (soul) INTO matter and the *only*, yes I repeat, *only* way BACK to 
 Spirit, thru awakening the kundalini up thru the Chakras to the 
 Sahasrara the uppermost Chakra.this is Yoga 101. It's 
embarrassing 
 most TM'ers don't know this stuff.

Sorry, but I think I used to see that description on the incense 
which the Muktananda Organization sells; like blue star incense or 
somthing like that...
Just thought Mukti made it up?
Anyway, someone must have made it up? 
R.G.







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[FairfieldLife] The big WHY

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 snip
   Interesting. Who says?
  
  
  That's the all-important question, you see.
  
  If the source of a statement about meditation or spiritual
  practice is not Maharishi personally, or some book that 
  bears his official seal of approval, the knowledge cannot 
  possibly be true or valuable and most likely is dangerous.
  
  You've been infected by non-approved ideas, Billy. For
  your own sake, you should go back to believing ONLY what
  you have been told to believe by Maharishi. Anything
  else is BAD for you. What is wrong with you...didn't 
  you GET that after all those years of studying with him?  
  
  :-)
 
 I appreciate your tounge in cheek response, and of course 
 there will be those who cannot think, 'out of the box'. 

I'm personally fascinated by why there was such a
concerted effort to KEEP people from thinking
out of the box.

I mean, if you look at it, it's really WEIRD. From
Day One of one's instruction in TM, you get imprinted
with the dogma that it's the BEST technique of medi-
tation in the world, and that you'll never again have
any need for anything more. ( Even though you'll be
sold as many additional unneeded techniques as you
can afford :-) Then in successive lectures you learn 
that *all* other spiritual philosophies are inferior 
to Maharishi's and that only *he* has rediscovered 
the truths about spirituality that all of the others 
(think of the hubris of that -- ALL of the others) 
have missed.

If you buy this stuff, and spend even more money to 
buy your way to being a TM teacher, on that course you
get told how dangerous it is to read anything from
these lesser traditions, and how doing this could
possibly confuse you, and lead you off the program.
After you become a TM teacher, you learn that this
don't stray off the path policy is ENFORCED, and
that if you disregard it you will be sent away in
shame, and denied access to any future participation
in things TM. All of these teachings and procedures
are designed to KEEP people from thinking out of 
the box, and to punish them if they do.

The obvious question is WHY?

WHY is Maharishi so threatened by the idea of his
students being exposed to the knowledge of other
spiritual traditions, or to its teachers? ( And, 
as Paul has pointed out, even the knowledge spoken
by his *own* teacher? )

THAT seems to me to be an issue worthy of explor-
ing. There seems to be no question that Maharishi
has created an entire belief system that is designed
to teach his students to avoid and even be fearful
of knowledge that comes from anyone but him. 

But WHY?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Plutarch on mind

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
  
   
   http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/minitext/anxiety/index.asp
  
  
  There are known structural differnces in the female 
  and male brains that lead to the *average* female 
  (as though she exists) being less suited to math 
  then the average male (see preceding parethetical).
 
 
 Argue for your limitations, and sure enough,
 they're yours.  -- Richard Bach


Hmmm... am I female?

I was merely pointing out that there is an average level of performance 
associated with 
math that has a gender bias. There are exceptions, and more power to them. Lady 
Lovelace, for instance...

And, for another example of how physical limitations can make for an average 
requirement, look at basketball: the *average* player is very tall, but there 
have been 
professional male basketball players as short as five foot 3 inches and one 
champion-level 
slam dunker claims that he first starting slam dunking when he was 4 foot 11 
inches. 
Hieght is an extremely mportant factor in basketball, but there are there 
factors as well.

Likewise, the structure of the female brain makes women, in general, less 
likely to do well 
in math, but there are plenty of very good, even outstanding, female 
mathematicians and 
scientists. WHY they are so good, is a question that I can't answer. Perhaps 
they don't have 
as feminite a brain as average, or perhaps they were exposed to math at a 
very early age 
in a way that allowed them to excel (most math teachers don't know how to 
communicate 
well with non-math-whiz students, I've noticed).

As Judy likes to say, your throwaway comment above  is a thoguht-stopper.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
 wrote:
 
 snip
  This seems to be Muktananda's description of his experience; but 
  words, although flashy, would still fall short. Because words are 
  devisive by nature, and the opening of the third eye, or spiritual 
  site, or soul-realization, is by nature, an experience of unity, not 
  seperateness. 
  So, I could never relate to Mukatananda's description, myself.
  But my would feel a closer description, might not be so flashy, but 
  rather an enlivening of the 'perception' of 'oneness'.
  R.G.
 
 This was not Muktananda's description,nice try, close but no cigar! At 
 any rate, the 'spinal highway' is the pathway of *decent* of the Spirit 
 (soul) INTO matter and the *only*, yes I repeat, *only* way BACK to 
 Spirit, thru awakening the kundalini up thru the Chakras to the 
 Sahasrara the uppermost Chakra.this is Yoga 101. It's embarrassing 
 most TM'ers don't know this stuff.


It's embarassing that you can't read and understand the roots of your own 
(kundilini) 
tradition. There is NO way to describe samadhi.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
 snip
  It's an easy enough thing to dismiss. If you think that samadhi is a 
 thing to be perceived, 
  or that there is a consistent experience that always precedes it, 
 you're wrong.
  
  Period. End of story. Move along folks, nothing here to see 
 (literally).
 
 It's easy for you to dismiss 5000+ years of Indian religious history, 
 not for me, though I have never experienced the opening of the third 
 eye surely the principle, (like I have stated) is universal in Yoga and 
 even in the Bible. (If thine eye be single, thy body will be full of 
 light) What do you think Jesus was talking about?



Are  you simply incapable of reading and understanding?

There is NO valid description of samadhi. Not even the gods themselves can 
describe it.

Period.

THAT is the 5000+ history of Indian religious history. People who say otherwise 
are nuts, 
pure and simple.

We can even explain why this is so, on a physiological level: when the activity 
of the 
thalamus is reduced, the ability of the brain to describe inner states is 
reduced as well, 
since perception, even subtle perception, is based on the recycling of 
sensory input 
through the thalamus. When there is no perception, yet the brain remains alert, 
this is 
smadhi.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayi Amma/Maharishi Levitating?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   (snip)
on 9/5/06 11:49 AM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
 Maharishi has publicly claimed that he is capable of 
   levitating.
 
He has? I never heard that.
   
  
   Oh, yes. He most definitely did.
   
   It was on the Dick Cavett Show of the '70s. and he said  can 
 you 
   levitate.  And Maharishi responded yes.  Then Cavett asked him 
 to 
   show him and Maharishi responded it's not for me to do but for 
 you 
   to do (this is paraphrased as I am going on memory from almost 
 30 
   years ago).
   
   Does anyone else remember seeing this show and, if so, do you 
   remember it like I did?
 
 (Detail, details, details...)
 In thinking back more, I recall that Cavett said to Maharishi, after 
 asking him to levitate for him, and Maharishi refused, he said:
 You mean you can't levitate, or you won't meditate, which is it?.
 Whereas, Maharishi responded by saying he was here to teach the 
 thing, not to levitate himself...
 Then Cavett asked again: Does that mean you can't levitate, 
 yourself?
 Whereas Maharishi avoided the question, and Cavett was remarking how 
 rested Maharishi appeared having just flown in to New York, from 
 Japan, and began adjusting the mic which was clipped to Maharishi's 
 Dhoti, and it became rather annoying to see Cavett manhandling 
 Maharishi, with his mic and everything.
  I don't think MMY appeared again on any American TV show...after the 
 Cavett experience...
 R.G.



One thing to keep in mind about this and all other appearances of MMY on TV:

 He was there to advertise a product. Specifically Yogic FLying, but more 
generally, the 
spiritual regeneration of the planet. What matter a little hedging of the 
language in THAT 
context?

He had and has a blief about these things, and is quite willing to stretch the 
facts in order 
to attract attention to his cause, especially since he believes that eventually 
what he says 
WILL be reality, even if currently, levitation only means bouncing on one's 
buttocks.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Plutarch on mind

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 as feminite a brain as average, 

Feminite???

Gotta lay off the caffine late at night. It makes me too sleepy to type well...

ADHD. it's not all that much of a joke...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has anyone here 'perceived' the Ajna chakra?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
  snip
   It's an easy enough thing to dismiss. If you think that samadhi 
is a 
  thing to be perceived, 
   or that there is a consistent experience that always precedes 
it, 
  you're wrong.
   
   Period. End of story. Move along folks, nothing here to see 
  (literally).
  
  It's easy for you to dismiss 5000+ years of Indian religious 
history, 
  not for me, though I have never experienced the opening of the 
third 
  eye surely the principle, (like I have stated) is universal in 
Yoga and 
  even in the Bible. (If thine eye be single, thy body will be full 
of 
  light) What do you think Jesus was talking about?
 
 
 
 Are  you simply incapable of reading and understanding?
 
 There is NO valid description of samadhi. Not even the gods 
themselves can describe it.
 
 Period.
 
 THAT is the 5000+ history of Indian religious history. People who 
say otherwise are nuts, 
 pure and simple.
 
 We can even explain why this is so, on a physiological level: when 
the activity of the 
 thalamus is reduced, the ability of the brain to describe inner 
states is reduced as well, 
 since perception, even subtle perception, is based on the 
recycling of sensory input 
 through the thalamus. When there is no perception, yet the brain 
remains alert, this is 
 smadhi.

I thought someone like Buddha or someone said:
It's not this, and it's not that, to describe samadhi...
R.G.








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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "JagGY,Julono 3, Your Personal Corporate Healer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:FUCHSIA CLOUDS - FUCHSIA MIRRORS - FUCHSIA COCOONS - FUCHSIA MASKSIn the fast paced hectic world we live in today we are subject tostress, negative energy and third world thinking.We need simple and easy techniques to make life easy for us.I believe that NO ONE CONSCIOUSLY seeks to harm another unlesssomething has happened to program their inherent goodness we are allborn with out of them.This article shares some techniques that are designed to encouragethe Inherent Goodness of all to manifest in every situation.THE FUCHSIA CLOUDCan you close you eyes and imagine a Cloud. Now imagine the colour ofthe Cloud
 as FUCHSIANow when you go into a room (at home or work) for any reason Imaginethe room is filled with FUCHSIA CLOUDS.When you start a meeting, imagine the room is filled with FUCHSIAClouds.When tempers are rising in a Meeting imagine a FUCHSIA CLOUD abovethe head of everyone in the room.When someone is angry at you imagine a FUCHSIA CLOUD above them.If they are really really angry image a soft FUCHSIA RAIN falling onthem from the FUCHSIA CLOUDWhen your Boss is going to an important meeting, press conference etcimagine a FUCHSIA CLOUD covers them and everyone in the meeting iscovered by FUCHSIA CLOUDS.Before going to a meeting to do a presentation or submit a proposal.Send a bank of FUCHSIA CLOUDS ahead of you.When you submit a TENDER or PROPOSAL cover it with FUCHSIA CLOUDS sothat when it is OPENED the person opening it feels your lovingpositive vibrations and they will look
 kindly at your proposal.The same holds good for all communications via letter, fax or E Mail.If someone you care about is sick or going through a hard time,imagine them surrounded in a blanket of Soft FUCHSIA CLOUDS.When you go to bed at night imaging you are wrapped in a blanket ofSOFT FUCHSIA CLOUDS and you will sleep fully relaxedWe use CLOUDS, as clouds are what first forms from the moistureabsorbed from the earth. They are light and airy and everything canpass through them. The allow themselves to be blown by the wind towherever they are needed.When we utilise the Cloud we are creating the soft flexibleenvironment that is synonymous with ALL CLOUDS. While the cloudremains FUCHSIA it cannot absorb any heavy energy. Covering a personwith FUCHSIA CLOUDS helps the person stay LIGHT and BREEZY even whenthey do not know the CLOUD is there.Clouds are where LIGHTENING originates and LIGHTENING
 produces thegreatest number of NEGATIVE IONS (the good ones) possible to cleanseand purify anything that is harmful in our environment. The rain fromclouds gives us the Water we drink. CLOUDS are Natures way ofrecycling and returning to us all we need to LIVE on this PLANET.THE FUCHSIA MIRRORThose of us who live in Asia know all about BLACK MAGIC and more.To keep yourself protected against the negative vibrations directedto you by others, imagine yourself surrounded by a circular wall ofFUCHSIA MIRRORS with the mirror facing outward and the back of themirror coloured FUCHSIA facing toward you. A simple way is to image aDISCO BALL and place yourself inside it (the inside coloured FUCHSIA)before you leave your home every morning and just before you go tosleep. To keep your Family safe image them inside the Ball as well.If you know who is sending the negative energy to you also use
 theFUCHSIA MIRROR / Disco Ball but have the mirror facing towards theperson and the FUCHSIA outside facing outwards.The purpose of this is to REFLECT BACK to the person seeking to harmyou whatever they are doing to you. I do not believe in HARMINGOTHERS but I do believe we have the right to speed up the applicationof UNIVERSAL JUSTICE. Anyone who hurts another will get what theygive. We are only accelerating it.THE FUCHSIA COCOONCaterpillars transform into Butterflies by entering a cocoon. In thecocoon they transform into a butterfly by dissolving theircaterpillar self and transforming themselves into a Butterfly. In theprocess they struggle to LET GO of the Past and as they struggle toescape the cocoon the struggle forces the liquid that strengthentheir wings to fill out and then they FLY as they are transformed.We all need to transform TODAY in 2006. The time for Change is behindus.
 We need to totally transform ourselves just as the caterpillartransforms into a totally different and beautiful creation.The FUCHSIA COCOON, gifted through me from The Divine is based inBrazil.If you want to place someone you care about into the cocoon completethe form below and send it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] As long as yourmotive is based on the desire for the person to Transform for thehighest motive I will place your request in the FUCHSIA COCOON andask the DIVINE to TRANSFORM the person you request into the PERSONTHEY ARE MEANT TO BE.You may also request that you yourself are placed in the FUCHSIACocoon.Place the person in the FUCHSIA TRANSFORMATIONAL COCOON with thesewords(

[FairfieldLife] Re: Salary Cut for Recertified Governors

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 Recertified Governors will now be paid on a commission only basis--
25% 
 of initiation and other fees.
 
 Why don't you guys all quit, instead of taking this abuse.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Salary Cut for Recertified Governors

A demise of financial anemia of yet another MMY/TM program?  Silver 
lining might be that it may bring back to FF scores of souls who 
went out to the world to do the 're-certified' work in that last 
effort to gather more real estate, if those souls have enough money 
to make it back to FF.

-Doug in FF 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Academics claim 9/11 was 'inside job'

2006-09-07 Thread authfriend

As Roger Cressey, a terrorism expert, said
to Keith Olbermann on MSNBC last night:

You know my view on conspiracies, Keith.
They give the government too much credit.

Especially *this* government!

Cressey was speaking about a far less spectacular
conspiracy theory that Olbermann had wondered
about, but the principle applies even more to 9/11.
How could the same administration that so
horrendously bungled Iraq and Katrina possibly
plan and execute something requiring as much
precision and secrecy as 9/11 and have it go
off exactly as planned?

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 Fury as academics claim 9/11 was 'inside job'by JAYA NARAIN
 Last updated at 15:47pm on 6th September 2006  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Plutarch on mind

2006-09-07 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
   http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/minitext/anxiety/index.asp
  
  There are known structural differnces in the female 
  and male brains that lead to the *average* female 
  (as though she exists) being less suited to math 
  then the average male (see preceding parethetical).
 
 Argue for your limitations, and sure enough,
 they're yours.  -- Richard Bach

That would be Richard Bach, author of Jonathan
Livingston Seagull, right?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Current Dome Numbers

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 About 950 in the mornings, 1,200+ in the evenings.
 

1,700 was the important number?  The Maharishi Effect?
What say the TB'ers to this that MMY puts the call out and he can not 
get it up?  Has thia become his legacy, that his troops will not rally 
in the end?  What do they think amongst themselves could be done to 
really get the numbers now?  Do they ask the old-testiment cry, oh God 
why hath thou forsaken us?  Do they get any answers worth repeating?  
Just curious about their take on the situation and how they might see 
it remedied? 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Plutarch on mind

2006-09-07 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
   wrote:

http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/minitext/anxiety/index.asp
   
   There are known structural differnces in the female 
   and male brains that lead to the *average* female 
   (as though she exists) being less suited to math 
   then the average male (see preceding parethetical).
  
  Argue for your limitations, and sure enough,
  they're yours.  -- Richard Bach
 
 Hmmm... am I female?
 
 I was merely pointing out that there is an average level of 
 performance associated with math that has a gender bias.
 There are exceptions, and more power to them. Lady Lovelace,
 for instance...

Just to emphasize the point, Barry didn't bother to
read what Lawsonu actually said, or was completely unable
to understand it.  In his eagerness to put Lawson down,
he came up with not only a thought-stopper but a thought-
stopper that would be a complete non sequitur *even if it
were true*, and *even if Lawson were female*.

Talk about *shallow*...






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