[FairfieldLife] Re: New rules for your Dharma name
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: From now on, everybody must abide by the two-syllable rule for Dharma names: http://www.dari-rulai-temple.org/site/Dharma%20Name%20Order.pdf After seeing the Nathan Fillion PSA (that still hasn't posted here...damn Yahoo), I'm wondering whether some folks on this forum have the dharma name Swamp Ass. :-) Two syllables, so it's OK. You might have to spell it Swampass, though. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/gamers-swamp-ass-psa_n_891280.html
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle; Milk Hill, Wiltshire. Reported 6th July
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Barry takes authenticity and honesty, or their lack, as tools for manipulating responses from others on here. That is his entire game; using his writing skills to plant emotional triggers in his posts calculated to set others off. He doesn't care if he said the exact opposite the day before, or makes stuff up. Its all about Hah - you flinched! That's it, and that's all there is. If that were true, and two of the historical criteria of being either enlightened or more highly evolved and close to enlightenment are non-attachment and the ability to have external events have as little effect on them as a line drawn on water, what in your view does flinching say about those who do it on a regular basis? You came up with the description of me. You're one of the biggest flinchers on this forum. Now explain how your characterization of me, if true, reflects positively on you and the other over-reactors.
[FairfieldLife] Is that so?
Those on this forum who have felt that they had their spiritual vibes lowered by me mentioning the Trappist beer I was drinking in some cafe while writing a few recent posts, you can relax. This is a beer-free post. Hell, it's a cafe-free post. I am sitting on a bench in a Zen garden near my house, and draw any sense of inspiration from the sound of water and the smell of trees and the landscaping, not from any beverage concocted by Catholic monks who may have strayed too far off the catechism and into the study of alchemy. That said, the subject of this Zen garden rap, inspired by its stillness -- present even when full of groups of laughing and screaming children or teens chugging energy drinks -- is the frequent absence of that stillness on spiritual Internet forums. This is a generic rap, about what I see as a generic phenomenon. I'm not rapping about Fairfield Life per se, or about any of its denizens. Except one, and I'll name him explicitly later. If anyone else feels that I'm talking about them, I'm not, except generically. They, on the other hand, are free to go batshit crazy in their responses to this post if they feel comfortable with what that might say about them. What I've noticed is that many 20-to-40-year spiritual seekers and practitioners of high spiritual arts, some of which would claim to be the highest such art, think nothing of going slightly batshit crazy and reacting angrily to someone who has done nothing more than believe something different than they believe on the Internet. About their spiritual teachers. About their paths. About their behavior or the behavior of others on their path. About some nitpick of esoteric philosophy that they or their path is right about, while everyone else is wrong. Whatever. The individual catalysts for the batshit crazy lashing-out moments don't really interest me that much. Truth be told, most of the individuals doing the lashing out don't interest me that much. The lashing out -- on a forum that describes itself as spiritual -- does. I mean, WTF? What IS it that leads some long-term spiritual seekers who would in other circumstances talk equanimity in all things and the value of non-attachment that their path creates to suddenly fail to walk their own talk, and not only act in an attached manner, but in an angrily attached manner? You see this on almost every spiritual forum I've found on the Net. In some cases I know the people writing these posts, and I know that they would never in a million years lash out at someone in the same room with them over a spiritual nitpick, but they do it on the Net. It's as if flaming really IS a Net phenomenon, as many sociologists have suggested it is. The most fascinating thing about this phenomenon, from my point of view, is that bystanders on the same forum -- themselves 20-to-40-year spiritual practitioners -- seem to feel the same way about piling on. They cheer for the flamers and congratulate them on decimating the person who wrote the heretical idea or opinion being flamed. They applaud the ad hominems and the attempts at character assassination, and add their own. And they see nothing the slightest bit off about this. Again, WTF? And what about the person whose written words provided the original catalyst to the flamefest? How do they react when someone switches into hyperdrive and tries to rip them a new asshole? Do they react in kind, and get into a long, protracted I'm-right-you're-wrong-and-besides-you-suck fest with the person whose buttons got pushed, or do they lay low and actually demonstrate some of the equanimity their path speaks about? On this forum I can think of one person who has consistently demonstrated this kind of equanimity. Its founder, Rick Archer. For years I've watched people take potshots at the things he believes in, or the spiritual teachers he considers neat, or even at him personally, and he's consistently reacted similarly to the Zen monk in the famous Is that so? story. He may correct a misstatement if he knows it to be mis-, and he may present a balancing view, but in my considered opinion he almost always does so with balance. Nothing seems to get him riled up. I say good on him. He walks the talk of his particular path. That gets me *interested* in his path, as possibly having something of worth in it. The behavior of those who get their buttons pushed and fly into attachment-fests on a regular basis, not so much. Some might call this judgmental on my part, and that it reveals terrible flaws in my character and in my integrity, or in any ideas I may rap about. Some may in fact do so in response to this post. I answer in advance: Is that so?
[FairfieldLife] Carmageddon
Yesterday I got into my car, a 20-year-old Peugeot diesel, for the first time in six months. You just don't need a car in the Netherlands. Walking, bicycles, trams, and trains do me just fine. To my surprise it started right up and worked just fine, so it's there to count on should I ever need to go somewhere that justifies getting into a car to get there. This morning I found this article. Vive la difference. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07freeway.html?_r=1 Gayley is mentioned, to give it some FFL ontopicnessitude.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversations with Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Vernon Katz has a new book out available at MUM Press. http://www.mumpress.com/books/other-authors/f06.html Aiee, $39... This is cute (from the book description): Maharishi: People will enjoy this book. They will enjoy your insight. VK: I haven't any insight. It's your wisdom they will enjoy, and they will enjoy it all the more when set against my ignorance. Maharishi: See what insight you have! Very nice ! Already placed an order.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:12 PM, sparaig wrote: When Vaj apparently attempt to score brownie points in an argument this way, and never bother to apologize (that I am aware of), it just confirms the rather nasty impression I have gotten of Vaj-as-a- person, not just just his style of arguing and such. And why would I apologize for pointing out that Mahesh had a heart attack? Unless Chopra is lying, it's quite likely to be true. Until more (medical) evidence is presented, I have to assume he's telling the truth. Please keep in mind Judy frequently misrepresents what others say, (my posts are no exception) what they mean and/or what she believes their underlying motivations are. Either she cannot see the obvious or she deliberately attempts to mislead readers because rarely gets it right. There's a long history of misrepresentation and deliberate obfuscation. Given how ingrained a pattern it is, I have to assume such dishonesty is deliberate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Carmageddon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Yesterday I got into my car, a 20-year-old Peugeot diesel, for the first time in six months. You just don't need a car in the Netherlands. Walking, bicycles, trams, and trains do me just fine. To my surprise it started right up and worked just fine, so it's there to count on should I ever need to go somewhere that justifies getting into a car to get there. This morning I found this article. Vive la difference. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07freeway.html?_r=1 Gayley is mentioned, to give it some FFL ontopicnessitude. Sorry. That was the Getty Center that was mentioned, not Gayley. There is no FFL content in this article at all, unless of course you live in L.A.
[FairfieldLife] Re: squid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: My Philippina friends gave me some squid for lunch today, so I'm posting this to memorialize the event. I wouldn't make a habit of eating the creatures. They asked me if I liked squid, and I said As long as it's dead. ... It turns out that squid, cuttlefish, and octopi are highly intelligent animals, ranking right up there with the higher primates in problem solving. That octopus that predicted sports events unfortunately died. I can feature a big tanks in the Vegas Hotels geared up to make predictions. http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/brian_mccarty_squid.jpg Unfortunately I've eaten an octopus or two in my life. Never again :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya85knuDzp8
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:01 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: Actually he's known to have had concerns about electromagnetic pollution. We had a discussion here awhile back about some new warning about electric wiring emanating from the TMO, as I recall. (That's the *warning* that emanated from the TMO, not the electrical wiring.) I was told by a Mother Divine that there was so much concern about electrical current in the TMO that many ru homes have a switch they flip which turns off all electricity in the bedroom when it's lights out time. I'm told by an electrical contractor in FF that the building codes and electrical codes are so bad in FF, that licensing in the building trades just recent came in so that a great many houses in FF don't have a true ground. This lack of true ground often results in increased complaints of those who are allergic to electricity (Remember, this is FF, where instead of TM making you stronger and more resilient, it makes you more sensitive and cringy). There's a good business rewiring or putting kill switches into houses where the ru occupants complain of an allergy to electricity. My father, the electrician, got to see just how shoddy house and appliance wiring was. In our house when an appliance was not in use he pulled the plug on it. If the electricity in a room/area was not being used he flipped off the breaker/unscrewed the fuse. I've discovered a good amount of new house construction in Austin where the wall receptacles were not grounded, not that it would matter because the house's wiring lacked a true earth ground. That in a city, county and state which has inspectors, building codes and licensing up the wazoo.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Barry takes authenticity and honesty, or their lack, as tools for manipulating responses from others on here. That is his entire game; using his writing skills to plant emotional triggers in his posts calculated to set others off. He doesn't care if he said the exact opposite the day before, or makes stuff up. Its all about Hah - you flinched! That's it, and that's all there is. Plus trying to take a shot in almost every post at the only Saint he ever briefly met, Maharishi. Very strange. The Dolly Lama must be proud of him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip In other words, on the forum, he is not typically socially engaging, and my experience with women indicates they usually require some socially engaging etiquette to feel comfortable, and Barry does not provide this. I am not saying I would know how to provide this either. I'm not sure how well these generalizations hold in any specific circumstance, especially on a forum like this. For one thing, there's a lot of variation among both women and men with regard to the need for socially engaging behavior; and for another, an electronic forum deals strictly in words, with no cues from facial expressions or tone of voice or body language. In terms of your generalizations, that would seem to favor men and frustrate women. Perhaps women who are comfortable in this setting tend to be those who require less in the way of socially engaging etiquette. Some of the men here do provide such etiquette, at least at times (Curtis, for example, and, interestingly, MaskedZebra), but in my observation, most do not. That has never bothered me (in fact, sometimes I deliberately ignore an offer of social engagement because I sense it's a tactic, deliberate or unconscious). snip But it is his stand-offishness with regard to feelings and an unwillingness to engage that drives many to distraction here I don't think that drives anybody to distraction, Xeno. As I said in another post, I think the primary annoyance is with his inauthenticity (from his propensity to tell deliberate, malicious falsehoods all the way down to his appalling lack of self-knowledge). That's certainly *my* problem with him--not that he doesn't engage, but that he's fundamentally a phony, a fraud. Authenticity and honesty are baseline values, as far as I'm concerned. For a recent example of Barry's dishonesty, see this post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/281603
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:10 AM, sparaig wrote: Allegedly MMY was poisoned. So much for TM reducing the effects of poisoning, you meant to say... No, a myocardial infarction, a heart attack. Maharishi had suffered severe abdominal pain and inflammation of the pancreas, along with kidney failure followed by a heart attack. -Deepak Chopra Man, you really have to admire the chutzpah of Vaj's dishonesty. Note the sentence below that immediately follows the recitation of MMY's medical problems that Vaj quotes: ...When I entered the makeshift ICU I saw Maharishi lying unconscious in a bed with IV tubes and a respirator just as I had foreseen. My father informed me darkly that after drinking a glass of orange juice given to him by a foreign disciple, Maharishi had suffered severe abdominal pain and inflammation of the pancreas, along with kidney failure followed by a heart attack. Poisoning was suspected IOW, they thought the suspected poisoning was responsible for the heart attack. But Vaj doesn't quote that last sentence; that's the only way he could make his flat contradiction of Lawson's remark seem even remotely plausible. He just hoped nobody would go check the actual article. When Vaj apparently attempt to score brownie points in an argument this way, and never bother to apologize (that I am aware of), it just confirms the rather nasty impression I have gotten of Vaj-as-a-person, not just just his style of arguing and such. Lawson Agreed. His beloved Dolly Lama must be proud of him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: squid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I love squid and octopus. They are like if you took the essence of shrimp, put it in some tinfoil and inhaled the vapors through a hollowed out Bic pen heated up by a lighter. (And it had eaten heroin before it died.) They are both best cooked only a little or for a long time because in between is rubber band city. Real Thai cooks have wonderful ways to cook Calamari, scoring the flesh squares on one side in a diamond pattern so it curls up like a jewel. With this texture it can hold the curry close to its milky flesh, trapped in the ridges created. It isn't hard but makes a big hit at the table. They might have some clever Ted Bundy intelligence in them. But it is all for the purposes of killing and eating their fellow marine neighbors. They would eat a mermaid's face off in a flash, without thinking of her as a divine version of fishy chastity despite her voluptuous upper deck. They would gobble her down like I eat every one of these little miscreants who falls onto my plate. With a spray of lime at the last second. Always a spray of lime to mark their passing. I don't get my hand on the tiny octopus that the Japanese eat so raw that occasionally one chokes a diner to death when swallowed in Jeffrey Dahmer (did you also think his last name had an L in it? I sure did.) fashion, their tentacles gripping the inner esophagus and choking the gourmand out of his next exotic meal. I can't say which side I fall in this kind of struggle, I mean chewing a living creature so poorly seems like such a dickish move doesn't it? I mean does it reallyaffect the flavor to scald the thing before mastication? Really? That is the most important part of the flavor, that the creature fights you while chewing? I love food but count me out for that ritual. Kill the thing, maybe RIGHT before I eat it like I do with soft shell crabs from Maryland's Chesapeake Bay. That is cool. I taste the whole bay in every bite when I do that. But for God's sake (liberal phrasing I know) kill the creature.My teeth are not so good at that as a blast in the steam tray, OK? I don't need to feel its objection to its own death in the same fleshy area I kiss my girlfriend with. That tongue is a sacred area and not meant for a sacrificial alter. It is meant for loving and for accepting all the members of the family of squid and octopi after they have been properly dispatched, and can now deliver the essence of the ocean to my palate. I love those creatures, but I don't trust them for a second. I have cleaned them of their parrot-like beaks and I know that if the tide was turned, I would be dispatched without the artistic grace of some fish sauce, lime, garlic and chili. They would eat me alive. Let's hope their spirits will leave you alone when you have left the body :-) http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/brian_mccarty_squid.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Published research from the Shamatha Project
Willy One Lawson, here's what's been published so far on the Shamatha Project. Publications Peer-Reviewed Journal Articles Jacobs, T.L., Epel, E.S., Lin, J., Blackburn, E.H., Wolkowitz, O.M., Bridwell, D.A., Zanesco., A.P., Aichele, S.R., Sahdra, B.K., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (Accepted for Publication). Intensive meditation training, immune cell telomerase activity, and psychological mediators. Psychoneuroendocrinology. [Download PDF] Sahdra, B.K., MacLean, K.A., Ferrer, E., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Aichele, S.R., King, B.G., Bridwell, D.A., Lavy, S., Mangun, G.R., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (2011). Enhanced response inhibition during intensive meditation training predicts improvements in self-reported adaptive socioemotional functioning. Emotion, 11(2), 299-312. [Download PDF] MacLean, K.A., Ferrer, E., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Zanesco, A.P., Jacobs, T.L., King, B.G., Rosenberg, E.L., Sahdra, B.K., Shaver, P.R., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Saron, C.D. (2010). Intensive meditation training improves perceptual discrimination and sustained attention. Psychological Science, 21(6), 829-839. [Download PDF] MacLean, K.A., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Mangun, G.R., Wojciulik, E., Saron, C.D. (2009). Interactions between endogenous and exogenous attention during vigilance. Attention, Perception, Psychophysics, 71(5), 1042-1058. [Download PDF] Shaver, P.R., Lavy, S., Saron, C.D., Mikulincer, M. (2007). Social foundations of the capacity for mindfulness: An attachment perspective. Psychological Inquiry, 18(4), 264-271. [Download PDF] Published Abstracts Saggar, M., MacLean, K.A., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Miikkulainen, R., Saron, C.D. Cortical activation changes associated with intensive meditation training are related to vigilance performance. Poster to be presented at the Society for Cognitive Neuroscience annual meeting, San Francisco, April, 2011. Sahdra, B.K., MacLean, K.A., Ferrer, E., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., King, B.G., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Mangun, G.R., Lavy, S., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (2010, August). Response Inhibition Enhanced by Meditation Training Predicts Improved Adaptive Functioning. Poster presented at the annual meeting of the American Psychological Association, San Diego, CA. Saggar, M., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Saron, C.D., Miikkulainen, R. (2010, July). A computational approach to understand the longitudinal changes in cortical activity associated with intensive meditation training. Paper presented at the annual meeting of the Organization for Computational Neuroscience, San Antonio, TX. King, B.G., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., Jacobs, T.L., Aichele, S.R., MacLean, K.A., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Sahdra, B.K., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (2010, April). Accentuate the positive: Longitudinal effects of intensive meditation training on modulation of the emotion potentiated startle reflex. Poster presented at the annual meeting of the Cognitive Neuroscience Society, Montreal, Canada. Saggar, M., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Tang, A. C., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Miikkulainen R., Saron, C.D. (2010, January). Training attention: longitudinal changes in cortical activity associated with intensive meditation. Paper presented at the SPIE Human Vision and Electronic Imaging Conference Symposium Presentation. Saggar, M., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Tang, A.C., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Miikkulainen, R., Saron, C.D. (2009, October). Longitudinal changes in brain activity associated with intensive meditation training. Poster presented at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience, Chicago, IL. MacLean, K.A., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., King, B.G., Saggar, M., Mazaheri, A., Ferrer, E,. Rosenberg, E.L., Sahdra, B.K., Shaver, P.R., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Saron, C.D. (2009, October). Effects of intensive meditation training on sustained attention: changes in visual event-related potentials, ongoing EEG and behavioral performance. Poster presented at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience, Chicago, IL. Jacobs, T.L., Epel, E.S., Lin, J., Blackburn, E.L., Wolkowitz, O.M., Bridwell, D.A.,
[FairfieldLife] Free Hugs
Juan Mann started a campaign in 2004 offering free hugs to random people on the streets of Sydney, Australia. Who needs a hug today? Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wb37k9Aitcfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Hugs_Campaign
[FairfieldLife] Re: squid
Fabulous writing, Curtis. Love your food porn. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I love squid and octopus. They are like if you took the essence of shrimp, put it in some tinfoil and inhaled the vapors through a hollowed out Bic pen heated up by a lighter. (And it had eaten heroin before it died.) They are both best cooked only a little or for a long time because in between is rubber band city. Real Thai cooks have wonderful ways to cook Calamari, scoring the flesh squares on one side in a diamond pattern so it curls up like a jewel. With this texture it can hold the curry close to its milky flesh, trapped in the ridges created. It isn't hard but makes a big hit at the table. They might have some clever Ted Bundy intelligence in them. But it is all for the purposes of killing and eating their fellow marine neighbors. They would eat a mermaid's face off in a flash, without thinking of her as a divine version of fishy chastity despite her voluptuous upper deck. They would gobble her down like I eat every one of these little miscreants who falls onto my plate. With a spray of lime at the last second. Always a spray of lime to mark their passing. I don't get my hand on the tiny octopus that the Japanese eat so raw that occasionally one chokes a diner to death when swallowed in Jeffrey Dahmer (did you also think his last name had an L in it? I sure did.) fashion, their tentacles gripping the inner esophagus and choking the gourmand out of his next exotic meal. I can't say which side I fall in this kind of struggle, I mean chewing a living creature so poorly seems like such a dickish move doesn't it? I mean does it reallyaffect the flavor to scald the thing before mastication? Really? That is the most important part of the flavor, that the creature fights you while chewing? I love food but count me out for that ritual. Kill the thing, maybe RIGHT before I eat it like I do with soft shell crabs from Maryland's Chesapeake Bay. That is cool. I taste the whole bay in every bite when I do that. But for God's sake (liberal phrasing I know) kill the creature.My teeth are not so good at that as a blast in the steam tray, OK? I don't need to feel its objection to its own death in the same fleshy area I kiss my girlfriend with. That tongue is a sacred area and not meant for a sacrificial alter. It is meant for loving and for accepting all the members of the family of squid and octopi after they have been properly dispatched, and can now deliver the essence of the ocean to my palate. I love those creatures, but I don't trust them for a second. I have cleaned them of their parrot-like beaks and I know that if the tide was turned, I would be dispatched without the artistic grace of some fish sauce, lime, garlic and chili. They would eat me alive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: My Philippina friends gave me some squid for lunch today, so I'm posting this to memorialize the event. I wouldn't make a habit of eating the creatures. They asked me if I liked squid, and I said As long as it's dead. ... It turns out that squid, cuttlefish, and octopi are highly intelligent animals, ranking right up there with the higher primates in problem solving. That octopus that predicted sports events unfortunately died. I can feature a big tanks in the Vegas Hotels geared up to make predictions. http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/brian_mccarty_squid.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
Sorry, you will have to find someone else to play with, Barry. I cannot take you seriously enough to address your question. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Barry takes authenticity and honesty, or their lack, as tools for manipulating responses from others on here. That is his entire game; using his writing skills to plant emotional triggers in his posts calculated to set others off. He doesn't care if he said the exact opposite the day before, or makes stuff up. Its all about Hah - you flinched! That's it, and that's all there is. If that were true, and two of the historical criteria of being either enlightened or more highly evolved and close to enlightenment are non-attachment and the ability to have external events have as little effect on them as a line drawn on water, what in your view does flinching say about those who do it on a regular basis? You came up with the description of me. You're one of the biggest flinchers on this forum. Now explain how your characterization of me, if true, reflects positively on you and the other over-reactors.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:12 PM, sparaig wrote: When Vaj apparently attempt to score brownie points in an argument this way, and never bother to apologize (that I am aware of), it just confirms the rather nasty impression I have gotten of Vaj-as-a-person, not just just his style of arguing and such. And why would I apologize for pointing out that Mahesh had a heart attack? Because *in context*, you were attempting to deceive: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:10 AM, sparaig wrote: Allegedly MMY was poisoned. So much for TM reducing the effects of poisoning, you meant to say... No, a myocardial infarction, a heart attack. Maharishi had suffered severe abdominal pain and inflammation of the pancreas, along with kidney failure followed by a heart attack. -Deepak Chopra As I pointed out, the sentence you quoted from Chopra's piece was followed *immediately* by the sentence, Poisoning was suspected. You did not quote that sentence, because it validates what Lawson said: the suspicion was that the heart attack was an effect of the poisoning. Unless Chopra is lying, it's quite likely to be true. Until more (medical) evidence is presented, I have to assume he's telling the truth. In context, that's a non sequitur. Nobody's questioning the heart attack. But nobody has claimed TM prevents heart attacks caused by poisoning, either. The person who was lying was you. You could not have read the sentence you quoted without also reading the following sentence, Poisoning was suspected. That's what Lawson pointed out, and you denied it, knowing your denial was false. Please keep in mind Judy frequently misrepresents what others say Judy never intentionally misrepresents anything. You got caught lying outright, on the record, which I quoted. Exactly how could I be misrepresenting what you said when I quoted it verbatim? In my experience, the last resort of liars is to claim the person who exposes and documents their lies is a liar. In Vaj's case, when I've caught him in a lie, he's typically accused me of lying without ever providing an example of what he claims is a lie from me. This instance is no exception. It's a desperate attempt to distract attention from his own lie. , (my posts are no exception) what they mean and/or what she believes their underlying motivations are. Either she cannot see the obvious or she deliberately attempts to mislead readers because rarely gets it right. There's a long history of misrepresentation and deliberate obfuscation. Given how ingrained a pattern it is, I have to assume such dishonesty is deliberate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
Its just a technique he uses. Barry loves attention, even negative attention. So if he has to run down Maharishi to get it, so be it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Barry takes authenticity and honesty, or their lack, as tools for manipulating responses from others on here. That is his entire game; using his writing skills to plant emotional triggers in his posts calculated to set others off. He doesn't care if he said the exact opposite the day before, or makes stuff up. Its all about Hah - you flinched! That's it, and that's all there is. Plus trying to take a shot in almost every post at the only Saint he ever briefly met, Maharishi. Very strange. The Dolly Lama must be proud of him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip In other words, on the forum, he is not typically socially engaging, and my experience with women indicates they usually require some socially engaging etiquette to feel comfortable, and Barry does not provide this. I am not saying I would know how to provide this either. I'm not sure how well these generalizations hold in any specific circumstance, especially on a forum like this. For one thing, there's a lot of variation among both women and men with regard to the need for socially engaging behavior; and for another, an electronic forum deals strictly in words, with no cues from facial expressions or tone of voice or body language. In terms of your generalizations, that would seem to favor men and frustrate women. Perhaps women who are comfortable in this setting tend to be those who require less in the way of socially engaging etiquette. Some of the men here do provide such etiquette, at least at times (Curtis, for example, and, interestingly, MaskedZebra), but in my observation, most do not. That has never bothered me (in fact, sometimes I deliberately ignore an offer of social engagement because I sense it's a tactic, deliberate or unconscious). snip But it is his stand-offishness with regard to feelings and an unwillingness to engage that drives many to distraction here I don't think that drives anybody to distraction, Xeno. As I said in another post, I think the primary annoyance is with his inauthenticity (from his propensity to tell deliberate, malicious falsehoods all the way down to his appalling lack of self-knowledge). That's certainly *my* problem with him--not that he doesn't engage, but that he's fundamentally a phony, a fraud. Authenticity and honesty are baseline values, as far as I'm concerned. For a recent example of Barry's dishonesty, see this post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/281603
[FairfieldLife] Re: squid
Food porn. Perfect. You should write for Bon Vivant, Curtis. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Fabulous writing, Curtis. Love your food porn. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I love squid and octopus. They are like if you took the essence of shrimp, put it in some tinfoil and inhaled the vapors through a hollowed out Bic pen heated up by a lighter. (And it had eaten heroin before it died.) They are both best cooked only a little or for a long time because in between is rubber band city. Real Thai cooks have wonderful ways to cook Calamari, scoring the flesh squares on one side in a diamond pattern so it curls up like a jewel. With this texture it can hold the curry close to its milky flesh, trapped in the ridges created. It isn't hard but makes a big hit at the table. They might have some clever Ted Bundy intelligence in them. But it is all for the purposes of killing and eating their fellow marine neighbors. They would eat a mermaid's face off in a flash, without thinking of her as a divine version of fishy chastity despite her voluptuous upper deck. They would gobble her down like I eat every one of these little miscreants who falls onto my plate. With a spray of lime at the last second. Always a spray of lime to mark their passing. I don't get my hand on the tiny octopus that the Japanese eat so raw that occasionally one chokes a diner to death when swallowed in Jeffrey Dahmer (did you also think his last name had an L in it? I sure did.) fashion, their tentacles gripping the inner esophagus and choking the gourmand out of his next exotic meal. I can't say which side I fall in this kind of struggle, I mean chewing a living creature so poorly seems like such a dickish move doesn't it? I mean does it reallyaffect the flavor to scald the thing before mastication? Really? That is the most important part of the flavor, that the creature fights you while chewing? I love food but count me out for that ritual. Kill the thing, maybe RIGHT before I eat it like I do with soft shell crabs from Maryland's Chesapeake Bay. That is cool. I taste the whole bay in every bite when I do that. But for God's sake (liberal phrasing I know) kill the creature.My teeth are not so good at that as a blast in the steam tray, OK? I don't need to feel its objection to its own death in the same fleshy area I kiss my girlfriend with. That tongue is a sacred area and not meant for a sacrificial alter. It is meant for loving and for accepting all the members of the family of squid and octopi after they have been properly dispatched, and can now deliver the essence of the ocean to my palate. I love those creatures, but I don't trust them for a second. I have cleaned them of their parrot-like beaks and I know that if the tide was turned, I would be dispatched without the artistic grace of some fish sauce, lime, garlic and chili. They would eat me alive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: My Philippina friends gave me some squid for lunch today, so I'm posting this to memorialize the event. I wouldn't make a habit of eating the creatures. They asked me if I liked squid, and I said As long as it's dead. ... It turns out that squid, cuttlefish, and octopi are highly intelligent animals, ranking right up there with the higher primates in problem solving. That octopus that predicted sports events unfortunately died. I can feature a big tanks in the Vegas Hotels geared up to make predictions. http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/brian_mccarty_squid.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dvorak: hacker attacks false flags?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Some of us geeks have been reading John C since the 1980s. Here's his column for PC Magazine where he theorizes that these recent hacker attacks could be false flags to get our gullible sheeple to accept government taking control of the Internet. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387203,00.asp All war is based on deception. Sun Tzu
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is that so?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Those on this forum who have felt that they had their spiritual vibes lowered by me mentioning the Trappist beer I was drinking in some cafe while writing a few recent posts, you can relax. Did anyone here feel this, or is it yet another Barry-fantasy? snip That said, the subject of this Zen garden rap, inspired by its stillness -- present even when full of groups of laughing and screaming children or teens chugging energy drinks -- is the frequent absence of that stillness on spiritual Internet forums. This is a generic rap, about what I see as a generic phenomenon. I'm not rapping about Fairfield Life per se, or about any of its denizens. This is a fairly recent tactic of Barry's, to criticize FFL or its denizens but claim the criticism is generic in order to be able to engage in unfair and/or inaccurate putdowns without being accountable for what he says. snip What I've noticed is that many 20-to-40-year spiritual seekers and practitioners of high spiritual arts, some of which would claim to be the highest such art, think nothing of going slightly batshit crazy and reacting angrily to someone who has done nothing more than believe something different than they believe on the Internet. All Barry is saying here is that disagreement is expressed about beliefs. Because that's so normal and unsurprising, he has to find a way to make the disagreement seem somehow wrong, so he characterizes it as going slightly batshit crazy (whatever that could possibly mean) and reacting angrily. That's another of his tactics. It would be hard for him to mount criticism of simple disagreement about beliefs, so he describes the disagreement in terms that he *can* criticize. Except that on FFL, in my observation, those who disagree very rarely go slightly batshit crazy or even react angrily. That's not to say there aren't angry reactions, but they aren't just to somebody doing nothing more than believe something different than they believe. The angry reactions are to nasty, gratuitous putdowns, to unfair criticisms, to illogical and/or dishonest assertions, to arrogance, to sloppy, shallow thinking, to inauthenticity, to self-serving opportunism, especially from those who attempt to portray themselves as more spiritual than those they're criticizing. This too is unsurprising. But those who express their beliefs without any of the above are almost never subject to angry reactions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Hugs
Thanks! I saw the earlier version which didn't include the petition signing. What an amazing person. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Juan Mann started a campaign in 2004 offering free hugs to random people on the streets of Sydney, Australia. Who needs a hug today? Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wb37k9Aitcfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Hugs_Campaign
[FairfieldLife] Re: Published research from the Shamatha Project
Vaj: here's what's been published so far on the Shamatha Project. None of these papers are double-blind studies. But, all these papers just validate the practice of TM. The fact is, meditation can help reduce stress, one of the major contributors to heart attack, according to Dr. Wallace. Shamatha is just another variant on TM practice, similar to Tibetan Dzogchen. So, any scientific studies would probably tend to support TM research, not invalidate it. I've practice both 'TM' and 'Shamatha', so I can say from experience that they are very similar, and produce similar results for normal health. TM and Shamatha are both object based forms of deep meditation. This is true of Zen practice and most forms of Tibetan Buddhism. The historical Buddha practiced and taught a meditation that was akin to TM practice, which can lead to the the experience of the ground of our consciousness. Wallace details the movements through the meditative stages of samatha practice. Initially, one begins with an object of focus and ultimately ends up with an objectless meditative awareness, which connects one to the ground of all conscious activity... Wallace's Contemplative Science: http://tinyurl.com/6fpvdk3
[FairfieldLife] Re: squid
Thanks Yifu, Raunchy and Barry. I am thinking of submitting it to, Snuff Food Porn Magazine: For people who love their food to death! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Food porn. Perfect. You should write for Bon Vivant, Curtis. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Fabulous writing, Curtis. Love your food porn. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I love squid and octopus. They are like if you took the essence of shrimp, put it in some tinfoil and inhaled the vapors through a hollowed out Bic pen heated up by a lighter. (And it had eaten heroin before it died.) They are both best cooked only a little or for a long time because in between is rubber band city. Real Thai cooks have wonderful ways to cook Calamari, scoring the flesh squares on one side in a diamond pattern so it curls up like a jewel. With this texture it can hold the curry close to its milky flesh, trapped in the ridges created. It isn't hard but makes a big hit at the table. They might have some clever Ted Bundy intelligence in them. But it is all for the purposes of killing and eating their fellow marine neighbors. They would eat a mermaid's face off in a flash, without thinking of her as a divine version of fishy chastity despite her voluptuous upper deck. They would gobble her down like I eat every one of these little miscreants who falls onto my plate. With a spray of lime at the last second. Always a spray of lime to mark their passing. I don't get my hand on the tiny octopus that the Japanese eat so raw that occasionally one chokes a diner to death when swallowed in Jeffrey Dahmer (did you also think his last name had an L in it? I sure did.) fashion, their tentacles gripping the inner esophagus and choking the gourmand out of his next exotic meal. I can't say which side I fall in this kind of struggle, I mean chewing a living creature so poorly seems like such a dickish move doesn't it? I mean does it reallyaffect the flavor to scald the thing before mastication? Really? That is the most important part of the flavor, that the creature fights you while chewing? I love food but count me out for that ritual. Kill the thing, maybe RIGHT before I eat it like I do with soft shell crabs from Maryland's Chesapeake Bay. That is cool. I taste the whole bay in every bite when I do that. But for God's sake (liberal phrasing I know) kill the creature.My teeth are not so good at that as a blast in the steam tray, OK? I don't need to feel its objection to its own death in the same fleshy area I kiss my girlfriend with. That tongue is a sacred area and not meant for a sacrificial alter. It is meant for loving and for accepting all the members of the family of squid and octopi after they have been properly dispatched, and can now deliver the essence of the ocean to my palate. I love those creatures, but I don't trust them for a second. I have cleaned them of their parrot-like beaks and I know that if the tide was turned, I would be dispatched without the artistic grace of some fish sauce, lime, garlic and chili. They would eat me alive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: My Philippina friends gave me some squid for lunch today, so I'm posting this to memorialize the event. I wouldn't make a habit of eating the creatures. They asked me if I liked squid, and I said As long as it's dead. ... It turns out that squid, cuttlefish, and octopi are highly intelligent animals, ranking right up there with the higher primates in problem solving. That octopus that predicted sports events unfortunately died. I can feature a big tanks in the Vegas Hotels geared up to make predictions. http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/brian_mccarty_squid.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: In my experience, the last resort of liars is to claim the person who exposes and documents their lies is a liar. In Vaj's case, when I've caught him in a lie, he's typically accused me of lying without ever providing an example of what he claims is a lie from me. This instance is no exception. It's a desperate attempt to distract attention from his own lie. They may fool others but never themselves.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
I find it interesting that Catholics say Holy Ghost but Evangelicals say The Holy Spirit. I'm not exactly sure what the role of this enigmatic Entity is - perhaps to inspire people to speak in Tongues, or play Gospel music on 12-stringed guitars. Also, I've never encountered any reports of people having visions of the Holy Ghost. Maybe he/she prefers to stay out of the limelight. http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Casper-Friendly-Ghost-Mobile-Game-for-Halloween-2.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Practicing some kind of Cosmic Tantrum Yoga, He withdrew Himself (or at least the Holy Ghost part of Himself, which we all know is the cool part) from this world, for His own reasons. Cosmic Tantrum Yoga! BTW - I have never understood this Holy Ghost business. I think the Muslims have a point about Christianity: God is One: The Father, Son Holy Ghost. Er.. say, what? Can someone enlighten me - what IS the Holy Ghost? Not having been raised a Chrisschun myself, I shall leave more scholarly explanations to others. I will merely speculate that God may have had an unrequited thang for Casper the Friendly Ghost, and chose to play dress-up as him from time to time. MMY's idea of the rishi-devata-chandas relationship Little help here John please. What was that idea? PaliGap, The rishi is the principle of the unifield that pertains to the Knower. Devata pertains to the Process of Knowing. And, chandas pertains to the Known. Thanks John (mapping to the Trinity seems a bit tricky though) These three principles are in constant flux within the unified field which can be considered to be the cause and dissolution of the universe or the omniverse. Similarly, we experience this dynamic relationship within our consciousness and meditations. comes close to the Christian Trinity. Even priests in the Catholic church cannot fully explain the Trinity. But it is part of church doctrine since it was conceived by the Church Fathers during the Council of Nicea.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Barry takes authenticity and honesty, or their lack, as tools for manipulating responses from others on here. That is his entire game; using his writing skills to plant emotional triggers in his posts calculated to set others off. He doesn't care if he said the exact opposite the day before, or makes stuff up. Its all about Hah - you flinched! That's it, and that's all there is. If that were true, and two of the historical criteria of being either enlightened or more highly evolved and close to enlightenment are non-attachment and the ability to have external events have as little effect on them as a line drawn on water, what in your view does flinching say about those who do it on a regular basis? You came up with the description of me. You're one of the biggest flinchers on this forum. Now explain how your characterization of me, if true, reflects positively on you and the other over-reactors. Turq, I think this would have been a stronger post without the last paragraph. By just asking the question rather than trying to force the argument in the particular direction indicated in the last paragraph, where you have made it a command for him to respond in a particular way. The last paragraph reinforces the perceptions of those that disagree with your method of communicating. 'Close to enlightenment' is a peculiar phrase. One view is that everybody is already enlightened and just haven't gotten the fact of the matter. In this case 'close' is as close as one can get. There do seem to be some changes as a result of long-term meditative practice, in that events do not impinge as much and a person's reaction is less intense. There is also accommodation, where through practice, one's response to a situation can be trained to be less reactive or more intelligently reactive. A test pilot for example trains this way so they can react in a dangerous situation without panic. Instead they can try A, B, C, D, or something like that in order to stop the plane from falling out of the sky. Once they get through the list as far as they can before they crash, and still it doesn't work, then they can choose to bail out. Accommodation is a new habit replacing an older one, and probably does not meet the criterion for a 'line drawn on water' with regards to being non-reactive as a result of meditating. Meditating also seems to instill a habit, but it is not specific like flight school training. The phrase 'more highly evolved' is even more peculiar. 'Evolution' just means unfolding. It does not imply higher or lower, it just means something changes somehow. In the TMO there is that modifier 'more highly' which seems to imply the unfolding takes a certain tack, namely 'up' where one is better. But if everyone is already enlightened, this could not possibly be true. For some on a spiritual path, when on the path, the phrase can be significant, it is only when one gets to the end of the path, that one realises how one has been taking in by the whole spiritual trip. If one bails out of an authentic spiritual path before the end is reached, some bitterness might result from the failure to get to the goal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: I find it interesting that Catholics say Holy Ghost but Evangelicals say The Holy Spirit. I'm not exactly sure what the role of this enigmatic Entity is - perhaps to inspire people to speak in Tongues, or play Gospel music on 12-stringed guitars. Also, I've never encountered any reports of people having visions of the Holy Ghost. Maybe he/she prefers to stay out of the limelight. http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Casper-Friendly-Ghost-Mobile-Game-for-Halloween-2.jpg Definitely a he because he knocked Mary leading to the most ackward conversation in history: Old man Joseph: So you wanted to talk with me about something my darling wifey? Mary: Yeah, you know how I keep sending you off for shaved ice with honey and pickled locusts lately? OMJ: Yes, anything to make you happy, but it looks like some of it is sticking to your ribs a bit lately. M: About that, I have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is that I am having a baby out of wedlock and disgracing you in our small busy- body town. OMJ: Then what is the good news? M: In exactly 33 years your problem will get solved. OMJ: Mary, please fetch me a cane rod as thick as your thumb and while you are at it, fetch me that pool boy from next door who has been hanging around here lately. And SCENE. Cut to 30 years later at the tomb of Lazerus Jesus: Rise Lazerus, rise from the dead! Mary: Nice work son, we have one more stop on the PR tour and we can call it a day. Jesus: Not the lepers again! Hey BTW, since I have this handy trick do you want me to bring back your beloved and long-suffering husband Joseph, my earthly step-dad back from the dead? M: Tracing her hand over the scars of long healed welts...No I'm good. Wait, now that I think of it, there was this pool boy... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Practicing some kind of Cosmic Tantrum Yoga, He withdrew Himself (or at least the Holy Ghost part of Himself, which we all know is the cool part) from this world, for His own reasons. Cosmic Tantrum Yoga! BTW - I have never understood this Holy Ghost business. I think the Muslims have a point about Christianity: God is One: The Father, Son Holy Ghost. Er.. say, what? Can someone enlighten me - what IS the Holy Ghost? Not having been raised a Chrisschun myself, I shall leave more scholarly explanations to others. I will merely speculate that God may have had an unrequited thang for Casper the Friendly Ghost, and chose to play dress-up as him from time to time. MMY's idea of the rishi-devata-chandas relationship Little help here John please. What was that idea? PaliGap, The rishi is the principle of the unifield that pertains to the Knower. Devata pertains to the Process of Knowing. And, chandas pertains to the Known. Thanks John (mapping to the Trinity seems a bit tricky though) These three principles are in constant flux within the unified field which can be considered to be the cause and dissolution of the universe or the omniverse. Similarly, we experience this dynamic relationship within our consciousness and meditations. comes close to the Christian Trinity. Even priests in the Catholic church cannot fully explain the Trinity. But it is part of church doctrine since it was conceived by the Church Fathers during the Council of Nicea.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: I find it interesting that Catholics say Holy Ghost but Evangelicals say The Holy Spirit. According to Wikipedia, Ghost is an earlier usage and comes from the Old English *gast*, meaning spirit. I'm not exactly sure what the role of this enigmatic Entity is - perhaps to inspire people to speak in Tongues, or play Gospel music on 12-stringed guitars. Wikipedia has a pretty good rundown: - In Christian theology pneumatology refers to the study of the Holy Spirit. The English word comes from two Greek words: ðíåõìá (pneuma, spirit) and ëïãïò (logos, teaching about). Pneumatology would normally include study of the person of the Holy Spirit, and the works of the Holy Spirit. This latter category would normally include Christian teachings on new birth, spiritual gifts (charismata), Spirit-baptism, sanctification, the inspiration of prophets, and the indwelling of the Holy Trinity (which in itself covers many different aspects). Different Christian denominations have different theological approaches. Church history contains four critical discussions that have served to progressively define Christian pneumatology: 1. Patristic period. The early Church engaged in a debate over the divinity of the Holy Spirit, with Arius asserting that the Spirit is a creature or angel and Athanasius countering that the Spirit possesses divine attributes (such as immutability, transcendence, ability to sanctify, and involvement in creation). 2. Medieval period. In this period ensued a debate regarding the relationship between Christ and the Holy Spirit. The Eastern Church asserted that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father alone (as stated in the original Nicene Creed), while Augustine of Hippo and the medieval Catholic Church added the famed filioque clause to the Creed (the Spirit proceeeds from the Father and the Son). 3. Reformation and Counter-reformation. Here the relationship between the Spirit and the Scriptures is re-examined. Martin Luther and John Calvin hold that the Spirit has a certain interpretive authority to illuminate scripture, while Counter-reformation theologians respond that the Spirit has authorized the Church to serve as authoritative interpreter of Scripture. 4. Contemporary era. The contemporary church understands a distinctive relationship between the Spirit and the Church community. Various contemporary theologians grant the Spirit as authority to govern the church, to liberate oppressed communities, and to create experiences associated with faith. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatology Also, I've never encountered any reports of people having visions of the Holy Ghost. Maybe he/she prefers to stay out of the limelight. Far as I'm aware, the Holy Ghost/Spirit, although it's the second Person of the Trinity, is never portrayed in art as a human bean but is always represented symbolically (e.g., by a dove). Paligap observed that the mapping of rishi-devata-chhandas to the Trinity was a bit tricky, but perhaps from the above it'll be a little clearer. Rishi, the Knower, would obviously be God; and chhandas, the object of knowledge, would be Jesus Christ (the Logos). The Holy Spirit would be devata, the process of knowing, the abstract connection between Rishi/God the Father and chhandas/God the Son. Thus it's the Holy Spirit that descends (or emanates) from God to impregnate Mary, and later to proclaim the adult Jesus as God's Son at his baptism by John.
[FairfieldLife] For Curtis Others
A friend sent me this. Not exactly your kind of music, but you may enjoy it. i highly recommend viewing this episode of austin city limits starring allen toussaint, an american icon of the new orleans music sound. he is a big big favorite of mine! some months ago i was lucky enough to catch this show--every minute of it is pure high quality musical entertainment. it runs about an hour--for those of you who don't have that kind of time i strongly urge you to forward to the 38:38 mark and relax and let allen tell you a little story. this intro has got to be one of my all time favorites--along with bruce springteen's phenomenal story telling days! this is a little gentler and nostalgic, this TRANSPORTED me to a time in my life when i ALWAYS felt safe, back when i was little jerry. while it was the south side of chicago and not the country of louisiana that allen reminisces about, it was the same kind of feeling--mother is at home. this is beautiful, his voice is so calming to listen to, along with the accompanying piano which is SO in sync with his words. i got so lost in the intro i that i was surprised when i realize what the song he was going into was... it forever changed the way i hear this song. this intro for me was like a masterpiece painting, so vivid that i felt as if i were there back in time with him. i hope this is as beautiful for you as it is for me. http://video.klru.tv/video/1378867539/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
Somewhere in the New Testament, in Greek, there are three words listed in order of their progression: 'pneuma' (wind or spirit), 'psyche' (usually translated as soul), and 'soma' (body). There is another word 'nous' variously translated as mind, intellect or something like intuitive understanding, but where that fits in this scheme I do not know. The word 'pneuma' is the word translated variously as Ghost or Spirit. The word 'hagios' which means veneration or religious awe is the word translated as Holy. The New Testament documents are presumed to have been originally written in Greek, which was a common language at the time, used by Jews, Romans and the Greeks, and not written in Aramaic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: I find it interesting that Catholics say Holy Ghost but Evangelicals say The Holy Spirit. I'm not exactly sure what the role of this enigmatic Entity is - perhaps to inspire people to speak in Tongues, or play Gospel music on 12-stringed guitars. Also, I've never encountered any reports of people having visions of the Holy Ghost. Maybe he/she prefers to stay out of the limelight. http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Casper-Friendly-Ghost-Mobile-Game-for-Halloween-2.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Practicing some kind of Cosmic Tantrum Yoga, He withdrew Himself (or at least the Holy Ghost part of Himself, which we all know is the cool part) from this world, for His own reasons. Cosmic Tantrum Yoga! BTW - I have never understood this Holy Ghost business. I think the Muslims have a point about Christianity: God is One: The Father, Son Holy Ghost. Er.. say, what? Can someone enlighten me - what IS the Holy Ghost? Not having been raised a Chrisschun myself, I shall leave more scholarly explanations to others. I will merely speculate that God may have had an unrequited thang for Casper the Friendly Ghost, and chose to play dress-up as him from time to time. MMY's idea of the rishi-devata-chandas relationship Little help here John please. What was that idea? PaliGap, The rishi is the principle of the unifield that pertains to the Knower. Devata pertains to the Process of Knowing. And, chandas pertains to the Known. Thanks John (mapping to the Trinity seems a bit tricky though) These three principles are in constant flux within the unified field which can be considered to be the cause and dissolution of the universe or the omniverse. Similarly, we experience this dynamic relationship within our consciousness and meditations. comes close to the Christian Trinity. Even priests in the Catholic church cannot fully explain the Trinity. But it is part of church doctrine since it was conceived by the Church Fathers during the Council of Nicea.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip There do seem to be some changes as a result of long-term meditative practice, in that events do not impinge as much and a person's reaction is less intense. I would add, less intense *subjectively* for the person reacting. IOW, one person can't tell how much impinging is taking place in another person by observing their reaction. The reaction might appear furious or even batshit crazy, but internally the person could be perfectly calm and undisturbed, nonattached.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Published research from the Shamatha Project
On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:52 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: Vaj: here's what's been published so far on the Shamatha Project. None of these papers are double-blind studies. But, all these papers just validate the practice of TM. The fact is, meditation can help reduce stress, one of the major contributors to heart attack, according to Dr. Wallace. Shamatha is just another variant on TM practice, similar to Tibetan Dzogchen. So, any scientific studies would probably tend to support TM research, not invalidate it. The more accurate way to state it is that TM is a variety of shamatha, just not a very efficient one. TM bears no similarity to any Dzogchen practice that I am aware of.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Barry takes authenticity and honesty, or their lack, as tools for manipulating responses from others on here. That is his entire game; using his writing skills to plant emotional triggers in his posts calculated to set others off. He doesn't care if he said the exact opposite the day before, or makes stuff up. Its all about Hah - you flinched! That's it, and that's all there is. If that were true, and two of the historical criteria of being either enlightened or more highly evolved and close to enlightenment are non-attachment and the ability to have external events have as little effect on them as a line drawn on water, what in your view does flinching say about those who do it on a regular basis? You came up with the description of me. You're one of the biggest flinchers on this forum. Now explain how your characterization of me, if true, reflects positively on you and the other over-reactors. From an old post: There has been a lot written and there are numerous on-going investigations into what the Buddhist taxonomy of consciousness would call afflictive emotions. The first major work was by Daniel Goleman, Ph.D. and entitled Destructive Emotions. Goleman was group leader in the Mind Life conference, where HH the 14th Dalai Lama meets with leading scientists. The meeting Goleman was at was actually the 3rd Mind Life conference held in 1990. Since that time researchers have continued to look into this topic. I am actually just reading a more recent work on the topic of emotional awareness, a conversation between the Dalai Lama and Paul Ekman, Ph.D. entitled Emotional Awareness: Overcoming the Obstacles to Psychological Balance and Compassion. Of course there are afflictive and non-afflictive emotions. If one truly expands consciousness one should expand consciousness to include automatic mechanisms--knee-jerk reactions--which can include the afflictive emotions. As awareness expands, unconscious afflictive emotions are diminished. Some meditation forms may not work at this level and so destructive emotions continue to flourish, which means such people can afflict others with their afflictive emotions. But someone who is free from afflictive emotion and able to discriminate instinctively, can also use afflictive emotions constructively. It's usually pretty easy to tell who is who in person, if one spends enough time around them. Similarly, although with less precision, you can also get a good idea by reading someone's writing across time. One primary characteristic of afflictive emotions is that they are out of tune with reality. There is a distorted perception of reality. It is as if the perception of reality is poisoned or negatively colored by an instinctual negative reaction. Whether one can turn that afflictive emotion into something constructive depends on the skill of the individual. Certain meditative training can help one develop that skillfulness. In general meditative forms that use a form of top-down control of attention tend to favor a more egocentric neural functioning, and thus aren't as good at transforming instinctual negativity. Bottom- up, more open presence style of meditative practice, either alone or in conjunction with egocentric attentional forms, seem to favor a more allocentric, other, out there awareness and are better at integrating and transforming negativity. Transcend and include rather than transcend into. All healthy humans have various instinctual reactions or reflexes that originate from the very old, reptilian part of the brain. For example, in all humans, if they are startled by a loud sound, there is a reflexive and measurable response that always occurs at exactly 250 milliseconds after the stimulus and always lasts for exactly 250 milliseconds, always ending 500 milliseconds after the stimulus. Never longer, never shorter, in the entire species. However in advanced meditators we now know they can transcend and include to the point where that reptilian startle is no longer measurable or just barely detectable. It's this level of meditation practice and proficiency that allows a person to conquer--and master--even the most instinctual negative emotions. This non-startle presence is very obvious once one has recognized it, around certain meditative adepts. It has a kind of ripple effect through the various levels of the person. And like the afflictive emotions of a person who can spread this affliction to others (and cause them to produce negative emotions), people with the non- startle, non-afflictive style are able to pass that presence on to others, but in a more positive manner.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES
But Curtis, What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I'm with Sal on this one Dan. This request is not reasonable. And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the book came out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo routine now. What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as well as the currently whatever. Not too shabby IMO. Although we have come down in different places concerning spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that lead him to his own different conclusions. And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts. Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years. And, like most other people without badges, has no way of getting in. And do you really think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd let someone take pictures? You ask for evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody can supply. Therefore, for you the situation doesn't exist. If that works for you, great. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip There do seem to be some changes as a result of long-term meditative practice, in that events do not impinge as much and a person's reaction is less intense. I would add, less intense *subjectively* for the person reacting. IOW, one person can't tell how much impinging is taking place in another person by observing their reaction. The reaction might appear furious or even batshit crazy, but internally the person could be perfectly calm and undisturbed, nonattached. It might be the reverse too. A person might be seething inside, but manage to suppress the outward manifestation. I was really referring to my own experience, and observation of some others. I am the only one for whom I can observe the outer reaction simultaneously with the inner experience. For others, I have to ask about the internal state. There must be some physiological correlate to this however.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: I was told by a Mother Divine that there was so much concern about electrical current in the TMO that many ru homes have a switch they flip which turns off all electricity in the bedroom when it's lights out time. I'm told by an electrical contractor in FF that the building codes and electrical codes are so bad in FF, that licensing in the building trades just recent came in so that a great many houses in FF don't have a true ground. This lack of true ground often results in increased complaints of those who are allergic to electricity (Remember, this is FF, where instead of TM making you stronger and more resilient, it makes you more sensitive and cringy). There's a good business rewiring or putting kill switches into houses where the ru occupants complain of an allergy to electricity. My father, the electrician, got to see just how shoddy house and appliance wiring was. In our house when an appliance was not in use he pulled the plug on it. If the electricity in a room/area was not being used he flipped off the breaker/unscrewed the fuse. I've discovered a good amount of new house construction in Austin where the wall receptacles were not grounded, not that it would matter because the house's wiring lacked a true earth ground. That in a city, county and state which has inspectors, building codes and licensing up the wazoo. Most older dwellings don't have grounds anyway and have been fine, being sensitive to 'electricity' strikes me as being a psychosis rather than a real event, perhaps paranoia? I guess the TM hasn't *kicked-in* yet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: snip Far as I'm aware, the Holy Ghost/Spirit, although it's the second Person of the Trinity, is never portrayed in art as a human bean but is always represented symbolically (e.g., by a dove). Paligap observed that the mapping of rishi-devata-chhandas to the Trinity was a bit tricky, but perhaps from the above it'll be a little clearer. Rishi, the Knower, would obviously be God; and chhandas, the object of knowledge, would be Jesus Christ (the Logos). The Holy Spirit would be devata, the process of knowing, the abstract connection between Rishi/God the Father and chhandas/God the Son. Thus it's the Holy Spirit that descends (or emanates) from God to impregnate Mary, and later to proclaim the adult Jesus as God's Son at his baptism by John. An interesting take on it... AFAIK, though, the Holy Ghost is always the third Person of the Trinity, and Jesus is the second Person -- as in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit... which might make the Father our Rishi or the Knower, the Son our Devata, the process of knowing, and the Holy Spirit our Chhandas, the object of knowledge, the Body of Christ, the divine Church or Temple or Vedic Choir. This might tie in nicely with Father as the Spirit of God (Pneuma), Son as the Soul of God (Psyche), and Holy Spirit as the Body of God (Soma). These in turn easily map onto our uppermost three chakras: Father as Spirit of Spirit in the Crown (the Transcendent); Son as Soul of Spirit in the Third Eye (the Witness), and Holy Spirit as Body of Spirit in our Throat (Akasha). If the energy is moving down through these chakras, we might say that the Father is Love of Love (Sat of Sat), the Son is Light of Love (Chit of Sat), and the Spirit is the Laughter of Love (Ananda of Sat)...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
Curtis, if you don't know it you SO have to read Christopher Moore's brilliant Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal. You'd like Biff, and identify with him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: I find it interesting that Catholics say Holy Ghost but Evangelicals say The Holy Spirit. I'm not exactly sure what the role of this enigmatic Entity is - perhaps to inspire people to speak in Tongues, or play Gospel music on 12-stringed guitars. Also, I've never encountered any reports of people having visions of the Holy Ghost. Maybe he/she prefers to stay out of the limelight. http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Casper-Friendly-Ghost-Mobile-Game-for-Halloween-2.jpg Definitely a he because he knocked Mary leading to the most ackward conversation in history: Old man Joseph: So you wanted to talk with me about something my darling wifey? Mary: Yeah, you know how I keep sending you off for shaved ice with honey and pickled locusts lately? OMJ: Yes, anything to make you happy, but it looks like some of it is sticking to your ribs a bit lately. M: About that, I have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is that I am having a baby out of wedlock and disgracing you in our small busy- body town. OMJ: Then what is the good news? M: In exactly 33 years your problem will get solved. OMJ: Mary, please fetch me a cane rod as thick as your thumb and while you are at it, fetch me that pool boy from next door who has been hanging around here lately. And SCENE. Cut to 30 years later at the tomb of Lazerus Jesus: Rise Lazerus, rise from the dead! Mary: Nice work son, we have one more stop on the PR tour and we can call it a day. Jesus: Not the lepers again! Hey BTW, since I have this handy trick do you want me to bring back your beloved and long-suffering husband Joseph, my earthly step-dad back from the dead? M: Tracing her hand over the scars of long healed welts... No I'm good. Wait, now that I think of it, there was this pool boy...
[FairfieldLife] Check out Dalai Lama Trots Past White House Trash - FoxNews.com#slide=1
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[FairfieldLife] Re: For Curtis Others
Rick, please accept my thanks, and pass them along to your friend for sharing this, and so evocatively. As he/she said, this is a masterpiece of storytelling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend sent me this. Not exactly your kind of music, but you may enjoy it. i highly recommend viewing this episode of austin city limits starring allen toussaint, an american icon of the new orleans music sound. he is a big big favorite of mine! some months ago i was lucky enough to catch this show--every minute of it is pure high quality musical entertainment. it runs about an hour-- for those of you who don't have that kind of time i strongly urge you to forward to the 38:38 mark and relax and let allen tell you a little story. this intro has got to be one of my all time favorites--along with bruce springteen's phenomenal story telling days! this is a little gentler and nostalgic, this TRANSPORTED me to a time in my life when i ALWAYS felt safe, back when i was little jerry. while it was the south side of chicago and not the country of louisiana that allen reminisces about, it was the same kind of feeling-- mother is at home. this is beautiful, his voice is so calming to listen to, along with the accompanying piano which is SO in sync with his words. i got so lost in the intro i that i was surprised when i realize what the song he was going into was... it forever changed the way i hear this song. this intro for me was like a masterpiece painting, so vivid that i felt as if i were there back in time with him. i hope this is as beautiful for you as it is for me. http://video.klru.tv/video/1378867539/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Far as I'm aware, the Holy Ghost/Spirit, although it's the second Person of the Trinity, is never portrayed in art as a human bean but is always represented symbolically (e.g., by a dove). Paligap observed that the mapping of rishi-devata-chhandas to the Trinity was a bit tricky, but perhaps from the above it'll be a little clearer. Rishi, the Knower, would obviously be God; and chhandas, the object of knowledge, would be Jesus Christ (the Logos). The Holy Spirit would be devata, the process of knowing, the abstract connection between Rishi/God the Father and chhandas/God the Son. Thus it's the Holy Spirit that descends (or emanates) from God to impregnate Mary, and later to proclaim the adult Jesus as God's Son at his baptism by John. An interesting take on it... AFAIK, though, the Holy Ghost is always the third Person of the Trinity, and Jesus is the second Person -- as in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit... which might make the Father our Rishi or the Knower, the Son our Devata, the process of knowing, and the Holy Spirit our Chhandas, the object of knowledge, the Body of Christ, the divine Church or Temple or Vedic Choir. This might tie in nicely with Father as the Spirit of God (Pneuma), Son as the Soul of God (Psyche), and Holy Spirit as the Body of God (Soma). These in turn easily map onto our uppermost three chakras: Father as Spirit of Spirit in the Crown (the Transcendent); Son as Soul of Spirit in the Third Eye (the Witness), and Holy Spirit as Body of Spirit in our Throat (Akasha). If the energy is moving down through these chakras, we might say that the Father is Love of Love (Sat of Sat), the Son is Light of Love (Chit of Sat), and the Spirit is the Laughter of Love (Ananda of Sat)... ... and the next three chakras are the tripartite Soul or Mind or Consciousness or Light -- the Heart being the Love of Light (Sat of Chit) or Higher Mind, Nous, Intuitive Intellect or Buddhi; the Solar Plexus being the Light of Light (Chit of Chit), Ahamkara, or I AM; and the Navel being the Laughter of Light (Ananda of Chit), Manas, or Animal Mind. And the bottom-most three chakras are the tripartite Body or Matter or Laughter -- the Sex being the Love of Laughter (Sat of Ananda) or Senses or Subtle (Astral) Body; the Base being the Light of Laughter (Chit of Ananda) or Middle (Physical) Body; and the Feet being the Laughter of Laughter (Ananda of Ananda) or Dense (Elemental) Body, Prakriti. But that's if the energy is moving down through the Chakras (as in the Christos, the Anointing Dew of Immortality, the Soma-shower) -- if the energy is moving up through the chakras (as in Kundalini, the Fiery Serpent, the Magdalene), it would probably start with Sat of Sat in the Feet (Prakriti, the Mother), and move up finally into Ananda of Ananda in the Crown (Purusha, the Father).
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Curtis Others
Done. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Curtis Others Rick, please accept my thanks, and pass them along to your friend for sharing this, and so evocatively. As he/she said, this is a masterpiece of storytelling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend sent me this. Not exactly your kind of music, but you may enjoy it. i highly recommend viewing this episode of austin city limits starring allen toussaint, an american icon of the new orleans music sound. he is a big big favorite of mine! some months ago i was lucky enough to catch this show--every minute of it is pure high quality musical entertainment. it runs about an hour-- for those of you who don't have that kind of time i strongly urge you to forward to the 38:38 mark and relax and let allen tell you a little story. this intro has got to be one of my all time favorites--along with bruce springteen's phenomenal story telling days! this is a little gentler and nostalgic, this TRANSPORTED me to a time in my life when i ALWAYS felt safe, back when i was little jerry. while it was the south side of chicago and not the country of louisiana that allen reminisces about, it was the same kind of feeling-- mother is at home. this is beautiful, his voice is so calming to listen to, along with the accompanying piano which is SO in sync with his words. i got so lost in the intro i that i was surprised when i realize what the song he was going into was... it forever changed the way i hear this song. this intro for me was like a masterpiece painting, so vivid that i felt as if i were there back in time with him. i hope this is as beautiful for you as it is for me. http://video.klru.tv/video/1378867539/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
Very interesting Vaj, from your older post about two years ago. It is interesting how instinctive reactions peel off with time. Maybe certain reactions, say a bat flies close to your face will not disappear, but non-threatening sounds etc., do seem to diminish with time, as well as reactions to situations that previously set one off emotionally. There was a Dutchman, Herrigal, Herrigle, or some name like that, who went to Japan sometime in the earlier part of the 20th century, and he experienced an earthquake, and everyone fled except an old man. When he inquired of this fellow, he found the old man was a practitioner of Zen. Herrigle wanted in after experiencing the man's calmness, but was told as a Westerner he probably could not at that time attend a monastery. The old man sent him to a Zen archer, who taught him the art of Zen archery for a number of years. Herrigle wrote a book about that experience. He said he practiced several years without ever being told to shoot at a target, and finally one day the teacher said, observing him, 'it shot the arrow'. After that he was allowed to shoot at a target. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Barry takes authenticity and honesty, or their lack, as tools for manipulating responses from others on here. That is his entire game; using his writing skills to plant emotional triggers in his posts calculated to set others off. He doesn't care if he said the exact opposite the day before, or makes stuff up. Its all about Hah - you flinched! That's it, and that's all there is. If that were true, and two of the historical criteria of being either enlightened or more highly evolved and close to enlightenment are non-attachment and the ability to have external events have as little effect on them as a line drawn on water, what in your view does flinching say about those who do it on a regular basis? You came up with the description of me. You're one of the biggest flinchers on this forum. Now explain how your characterization of me, if true, reflects positively on you and the other over-reactors. From an old post: There has been a lot written and there are numerous on-going investigations into what the Buddhist taxonomy of consciousness would call afflictive emotions. The first major work was by Daniel Goleman, Ph.D. and entitled Destructive Emotions. Goleman was group leader in the Mind Life conference, where HH the 14th Dalai Lama meets with leading scientists. The meeting Goleman was at was actually the 3rd Mind Life conference held in 1990. Since that time researchers have continued to look into this topic. I am actually just reading a more recent work on the topic of emotional awareness, a conversation between the Dalai Lama and Paul Ekman, Ph.D. entitled Emotional Awareness: Overcoming the Obstacles to Psychological Balance and Compassion. Of course there are afflictive and non-afflictive emotions. If one truly expands consciousness one should expand consciousness to include automatic mechanisms--knee-jerk reactions--which can include the afflictive emotions. As awareness expands, unconscious afflictive emotions are diminished. Some meditation forms may not work at this level and so destructive emotions continue to flourish, which means such people can afflict others with their afflictive emotions. But someone who is free from afflictive emotion and able to discriminate instinctively, can also use afflictive emotions constructively. It's usually pretty easy to tell who is who in person, if one spends enough time around them. Similarly, although with less precision, you can also get a good idea by reading someone's writing across time. One primary characteristic of afflictive emotions is that they are out of tune with reality. There is a distorted perception of reality. It is as if the perception of reality is poisoned or negatively colored by an instinctual negative reaction. Whether one can turn that afflictive emotion into something constructive depends on the skill of the individual. Certain meditative training can help one develop that skillfulness. In general meditative forms that use a form of top-down control of attention tend to favor a more egocentric neural functioning, and thus aren't as good at transforming instinctual negativity. Bottom- up, more open presence style of meditative practice, either alone or in conjunction with egocentric attentional forms, seem to favor a more allocentric, other, out there awareness and are better at integrating and transforming negativity. Transcend and include rather than transcend into. All healthy humans have various instinctual reactions or reflexes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger with the Stones~ Angie!'...
On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: Very interesting Vaj, from your older post about two years ago. It is interesting how instinctive reactions peel off with time. Maybe certain reactions, say a bat flies close to your face will not disappear, but non-threatening sounds etc., do seem to diminish with time, as well as reactions to situations that previously set one off emotionally. There was a Dutchman, Herrigal, Herrigle, or some name like that, who went to Japan sometime in the earlier part of the 20th century, and he experienced an earthquake, and everyone fled except an old man. When he inquired of this fellow, he found the old man was a practitioner of Zen. Herrigle wanted in after experiencing the man's calmness, but was told as a Westerner he probably could not at that time attend a monastery. The old man sent him to a Zen archer, who taught him the art of Zen archery for a number of years. Herrigle wrote a book about that experience. He said he practiced several years without ever being told to shoot at a target, and finally one day the teacher said, observing him, 'it shot the arrow'. After that he was allowed to shoot at a target. Yes, Eugen Herrigel: Zen and the Art of Archery. It was required reading my Freshman year of college.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Far as I'm aware, the Holy Ghost/Spirit, although it's the second Person of the Trinity, is never portrayed in art as a human bean but is always represented symbolically (e.g., by a dove). Paligap observed that the mapping of rishi-devata-chhandas to the Trinity was a bit tricky, but perhaps from the above it'll be a little clearer. Rishi, the Knower, would obviously be God; and chhandas, the object of knowledge, would be Jesus Christ (the Logos). The Holy Spirit would be devata, the process of knowing, the abstract connection between Rishi/God the Father and chhandas/God the Son. Thus it's the Holy Spirit that descends (or emanates) from God to impregnate Mary, and later to proclaim the adult Jesus as God's Son at his baptism by John. An interesting take on it... AFAIK, though, the Holy Ghost is always the third Person of the Trinity, and Jesus is the second Person -- as in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit... Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which makes more sense to me, the order being less important than the similarity of function, at least as I perceive it. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess. That may be what Paligap meant by saying the mapping is a bit tricky. which might make the Father our Rishi or the Knower, the Son our Devata, the process of knowing, and the Holy Spirit our Chhandas, the object of knowledge, the Body of Christ, the divine Church or Temple or Vedic Choir. This might tie in nicely with Father as the Spirit of God (Pneuma), Son as the Soul of God (Psyche), and Holy Spirit as the Body of God (Soma). These in turn easily map onto our uppermost three chakras: Father as Spirit of Spirit in the Crown (the Transcendent); Son as Soul of Spirit in the Third Eye (the Witness), and Holy Spirit as Body of Spirit in our Throat (Akasha). If the energy is moving down through these chakras, we might say that the Father is Love of Love (Sat of Sat), the Son is Light of Love (Chit of Sat), and the Spirit is the Laughter of Love (Ananda of Sat)...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Published research from the Shamatha Project
That's an impressive number of citations, but most don't show up in the pubmed database... Lawson --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Willy One Lawson, here's what's been published so far on the Shamatha Project. Publications Peer-Reviewed Journal Articles Jacobs, T.L., Epel, E.S., Lin, J., Blackburn, E.H., Wolkowitz, O.M., Bridwell, D.A., Zanesco., A.P., Aichele, S.R., Sahdra, B.K., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (Accepted for Publication). Intensive meditation training, immune cell telomerase activity, and psychological mediators. Psychoneuroendocrinology. [Download PDF] Sahdra, B.K., MacLean, K.A., Ferrer, E., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Aichele, S.R., King, B.G., Bridwell, D.A., Lavy, S., Mangun, G.R., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (2011). Enhanced response inhibition during intensive meditation training predicts improvements in self-reported adaptive socioemotional functioning. Emotion, 11(2), 299-312. [Download PDF] MacLean, K.A., Ferrer, E., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Zanesco, A.P., Jacobs, T.L., King, B.G., Rosenberg, E.L., Sahdra, B.K., Shaver, P.R., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Saron, C.D. (2010). Intensive meditation training improves perceptual discrimination and sustained attention. Psychological Science, 21(6), 829-839. [Download PDF] MacLean, K.A., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Mangun, G.R., Wojciulik, E., Saron, C.D. (2009). Interactions between endogenous and exogenous attention during vigilance. Attention, Perception, Psychophysics, 71(5), 1042-1058. [Download PDF] Shaver, P.R., Lavy, S., Saron, C.D., Mikulincer, M. (2007). Social foundations of the capacity for mindfulness: An attachment perspective. Psychological Inquiry, 18(4), 264-271. [Download PDF] Published Abstracts Saggar, M., MacLean, K.A., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Miikkulainen, R., Saron, C.D. Cortical activation changes associated with intensive meditation training are related to vigilance performance. Poster to be presented at the Society for Cognitive Neuroscience annual meeting, San Francisco, April, 2011. Sahdra, B.K., MacLean, K.A., Ferrer, E., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., King, B.G., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Mangun, G.R., Lavy, S., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (2010, August). Response Inhibition Enhanced by Meditation Training Predicts Improved Adaptive Functioning. Poster presented at the annual meeting of the American Psychological Association, San Diego, CA. Saggar, M., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Saron, C.D., Miikkulainen, R. (2010, July). A computational approach to understand the longitudinal changes in cortical activity associated with intensive meditation training. Paper presented at the annual meeting of the Organization for Computational Neuroscience, San Antonio, TX. King, B.G., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., Jacobs, T.L., Aichele, S.R., MacLean, K.A., Shaver, P.R., Rosenberg, E.L., Sahdra, B.K., Ferrer, E., Wallace, B.A., Saron, C.D. (2010, April). Accentuate the positive: Longitudinal effects of intensive meditation training on modulation of the emotion potentiated startle reflex. Poster presented at the annual meeting of the Cognitive Neuroscience Society, Montreal, Canada. Saggar, M., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Tang, A. C., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Miikkulainen R., Saron, C.D. (2010, January). Training attention: longitudinal changes in cortical activity associated with intensive meditation. Paper presented at the SPIE Human Vision and Electronic Imaging Conference Symposium Presentation. Saggar, M., Aichele, S.R., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., Bridwell, D.A., MacLean, K.A., King, B.G., Sahdra, B.K., Rosenberg, E.L., Shaver, P.R., Ferrer, E., Tang, A.C., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Miikkulainen, R., Saron, C.D. (2009, October). Longitudinal changes in brain activity associated with intensive meditation training. Poster presented at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience, Chicago, IL. MacLean, K.A., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Jacobs, T.L., Zanesco, A.P., King, B.G., Saggar, M., Mazaheri, A., Ferrer, E,. Rosenberg, E.L., Sahdra, B.K., Shaver, P.R., Wallace, B.A., Mangun, G.R., Saron, C.D. (2009, October). Effects of intensive meditation training on sustained attention: changes in visual
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: But Curtis, What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke. So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then how do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as gossip? Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging it based on gossip you heard about what was in the book. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'm with Sal on this one Dan. This request is not reasonable. And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the book came out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo routine now. What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as well as the currently whatever. Not too shabby IMO. Although we have come down in different places concerning spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that lead him to his own different conclusions. And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts. Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years. And, like most other people without badges, has no way of getting in. And do you really think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd let someone take pictures? You ask for evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody can supply. Therefore, for you the situation doesn't exist. If that works for you, great. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
Thanks I'll check it out! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Curtis, if you don't know it you SO have to read Christopher Moore's brilliant Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal. You'd like Biff, and identify with him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: I find it interesting that Catholics say Holy Ghost but Evangelicals say The Holy Spirit. I'm not exactly sure what the role of this enigmatic Entity is - perhaps to inspire people to speak in Tongues, or play Gospel music on 12-stringed guitars. Also, I've never encountered any reports of people having visions of the Holy Ghost. Maybe he/she prefers to stay out of the limelight. http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Casper-Friendly-Ghost-Mobile-Game-for-Halloween-2.jpg Definitely a he because he knocked Mary leading to the most ackward conversation in history: Old man Joseph: So you wanted to talk with me about something my darling wifey? Mary: Yeah, you know how I keep sending you off for shaved ice with honey and pickled locusts lately? OMJ: Yes, anything to make you happy, but it looks like some of it is sticking to your ribs a bit lately. M: About that, I have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is that I am having a baby out of wedlock and disgracing you in our small busy- body town. OMJ: Then what is the good news? M: In exactly 33 years your problem will get solved. OMJ: Mary, please fetch me a cane rod as thick as your thumb and while you are at it, fetch me that pool boy from next door who has been hanging around here lately. And SCENE. Cut to 30 years later at the tomb of Lazerus Jesus: Rise Lazerus, rise from the dead! Mary: Nice work son, we have one more stop on the PR tour and we can call it a day. Jesus: Not the lepers again! Hey BTW, since I have this handy trick do you want me to bring back your beloved and long-suffering husband Joseph, my earthly step-dad back from the dead? M: Tracing her hand over the scars of long healed welts... No I'm good. Wait, now that I think of it, there was this pool boy...
[FairfieldLife] Re: squid
Squid - marinated in it's own black ink sauce nothing compares!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: But Curtis, What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke. Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims. Several other women have as well. Read the book and then let us know what you think. So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then how do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as gossip? Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging it based on gossip you heard about what was in the book. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'm with Sal on this one Dan. This request is not reasonable. And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the book came out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo routine now. What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as well as the currently whatever. Not too shabby IMO. Although we have come down in different places concerning spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that lead him to his own different conclusions. And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts. Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years. And, like most other people without badges, has no way of getting in. And do you really think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd let someone take pictures? You ask for evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody can supply. Therefore, for you the situation doesn't exist. If that works for you, great. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Curtis Others
Thanks Rick. loved it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Done. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Curtis Others Rick, please accept my thanks, and pass them along to your friend for sharing this, and so evocatively. As he/she said, this is a masterpiece of storytelling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend sent me this. Not exactly your kind of music, but you may enjoy it. i highly recommend viewing this episode of austin city limits starring allen toussaint, an american icon of the new orleans music sound. he is a big big favorite of mine! some months ago i was lucky enough to catch this show--every minute of it is pure high quality musical entertainment. it runs about an hour-- for those of you who don't have that kind of time i strongly urge you to forward to the 38:38 mark and relax and let allen tell you a little story. this intro has got to be one of my all time favorites--along with bruce springteen's phenomenal story telling days! this is a little gentler and nostalgic, this TRANSPORTED me to a time in my life when i ALWAYS felt safe, back when i was little jerry. while it was the south side of chicago and not the country of louisiana that allen reminisces about, it was the same kind of feeling-- mother is at home. this is beautiful, his voice is so calming to listen to, along with the accompanying piano which is SO in sync with his words. i got so lost in the intro i that i was surprised when i realize what the song he was going into was... it forever changed the way i hear this song. this intro for me was like a masterpiece painting, so vivid that i felt as if i were there back in time with him. i hope this is as beautiful for you as it is for me. http://video.klru.tv/video/1378867539/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Far as I'm aware, the Holy Ghost/Spirit, although it's the second Person of the Trinity, is never portrayed in art as a human bean but is always represented symbolically (e.g., by a dove). Paligap observed that the mapping of rishi-devata-chhandas to the Trinity was a bit tricky, but perhaps from the above it'll be a little clearer. Rishi, the Knower, would obviously be God; and chhandas, the object of knowledge, would be Jesus Christ (the Logos). The Holy Spirit would be devata, the process of knowing, the abstract connection between Rishi/God the Father and chhandas/God the Son. Thus it's the Holy Spirit that descends (or emanates) from God to impregnate Mary, and later to proclaim the adult Jesus as God's Son at his baptism by John. An interesting take on it... AFAIK, though, the Holy Ghost is always the third Person of the Trinity, and Jesus is the second Person -- as in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit... which might make the Father our Rishi or the Knower, the Son our Devata, the process of knowing, and the Holy Spirit our Chhandas, the object of knowledge, the Body of Christ, the divine Church or Temple or Vedic Choir. This might tie in nicely with Father as the Spirit of God (Pneuma), Son as the Soul of God (Psyche), and Holy Spirit as the Body of God (Soma). These in turn easily map onto our uppermost three chakras: Father as Spirit of Spirit in the Crown (the Transcendent); Son as Soul of Spirit in the Third Eye (the Witness), and Holy Spirit as Body of Spirit in our Throat (Akasha). If the energy is moving down through these chakras, we might say that the Father is Love of Love (Sat of Sat), the Son is Light of Love (Chit of Sat), and the Spirit is the Laughter of Love (Ananda of Sat)... We need to understand that the words used for the transcendent are more concrete and understandable in context with the Hebrew culture. Thus, the words Father, Son and Holy Ghost were used by the Christian Church Fathers to describe the phenomenon of the unified field, the transcendent. MMY's idea of the rishi-devata-chandas relationship is fine for analytical purposes. But it lacks the personal message to human beings who can only understand concrete words such as father, mother and son to get a glimpse of the mechanics of the unified field. IMO, it could very well be in the end, that heaven or the higher lokas described in the Bible and the vedic literature may be the perfect version of what we see here on earth. That is, there could be trees, forests, oceans, animals and people (those who are deserving) in heaven.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: But Curtis, What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke. So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then how do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as gossip? Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging it based on gossip you heard about what was in the book. Sometimes I think that in some alternative universe Oscar Wilde and Mark Twain got together, had a some- what improbable (but not impossible) love affair, and even more improbably (but not impossibly), fathered a love child together. Yet more improbably (but not impossibly), the birth of that love child was delayed for several decades, while the soul took advantage of the delay to kick back and mature and think up more good one-liners. The result was Curtis Delta Blues. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Movie: Electra Luxx
Not for the right hand path yogis here but those who watched the free YouTube movie A Girl Walks into a Bar might find this comedy fun. It was also written and directed by Sebastian Gutierrez whose girlfriend is Carla Gugino who stars in the film. It also stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Timothy Olyphant and Kathleen Quinlan. It's not available Netflix streaming at the moment so I got the DVD sent instead. It's on Vudu and probably a few other streaming services. But I recommend the DVD because the deleted scenes are worth the watch. Also be sure if you stream it to catch the trailer after the end credits. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1340773/ Sex wise though it is tamer than a David Lynch movie. My Acer a500 was updated last night to 3.1 which now means I can rent movies from the Android Market (and using the HDMI output playing them on a TV). Unfortunately the Netflix app doesn't stream yet because Netflix uses Microsoft's Silverlight which has to be compiled for each device.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which makes more sense to me, the order being less important than the similarity of function, at least as I perceive it. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess. That may be what Paligap meant by saying the mapping is a bit tricky. Yes! Rather like language itself, where words may convey quite different tonalities to different people, or even the same people, in different contexts at different times. None of it is carved in stone, as far as I can see, anyhow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: In my experience, the last resort of liars is to claim the person who exposes and documents their lies is a liar. In Vaj's case, when I've caught him in a lie, he's typically accused me of lying without ever providing an example of what he claims is a lie from me. This instance is no exception. It's a desperate attempt to distract attention from his own lie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES
A Milky Way's distance from worthy, but thanks for the tip of the hat man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: But Curtis, What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke. So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then how do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as gossip? Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging it based on gossip you heard about what was in the book. Sometimes I think that in some alternative universe Oscar Wilde and Mark Twain got together, had a some- what improbable (but not impossible) love affair, and even more improbably (but not impossibly), fathered a love child together. Yet more improbably (but not impossibly), the birth of that love child was delayed for several decades, while the soul took advantage of the delay to kick back and mature and think up more good one-liners. The result was Curtis Delta Blues. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Published research from the Shamatha Project
On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:56 PM, sparaig wrote: That's an impressive number of citations, but most don't show up in the pubmed database... Lawson It's not clear to how many, if any more, papers are in the pipeline still. The project has been extended with an endorsement by HHDL and is now international, the International Shamatha Project. These actually pale in comparison to overall Mindfulness research, which is already over 700 studies and growing at a logarithmic rate. The summer camp for scientists at the Garrison, north of NYC, which caters esp. to new researchers, has consistently sold out. This means the future looks quite bright for meditation research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
Bob, No need for additional writing practice; I may be the only one who didn´t see the joke, lacking enough experience with your posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: If my post to Ravi is thought of as anything more than a joke I need more writing practise. From: danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 6:13:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam Are these tricks commonplace on FFL? Just need to know what I'm getting in to. Alternatively, are these accusations commonplace on FFL. Just need to know what I'm getting in to. A Reader beware posting might help clarify. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Ravi, I apologize in advance for this and please correct me if I'm wrong, I hate to be thought of as a fink. But I was just looking at the Post Count and I would swear you are listed twice. I don't think this is the same as MZ, Turq and myself being the same poster. From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 2:12:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam Thanks Bob for humorous musings, welcome and apologies. Trust me no offense taken, what you say makes sense since I sat on your message for a while and didn't even feel like responding anything. Surely I'm the first one to deserve these cheapshots since I constantly indulge in it as well though I'm pretty shameless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Ravi, I was wondering when you would get around to me. Actually I was hoping you missed it because I've been feeling a bit ashamed of myself. The Golden Rule is about all I have left and I completely blew it with what can only be viewed as a cheap shot. Sorry for that, sincerely, and thank you for not forgetting me. Oh and I almost forgot. Thank you for figuring out my real name. Bobby, as in up and down. I'm guessing that you've probably considered the possibility that MZ and I could be the same poster. Although if we head down that road possibly MZ is an invention of Turq, which he may have done out of shear boredom. Isn't there a vedic creation myth that says thats what all the creation is? The big guy got bored? Well one thing we know for sure is that I can't write nearly as well as those other two manifestations, or at least punctuate. Anyway I love you man and I'm glad you're here both on the post and in this crazy old creation of MZ's. Om Shanti bro.
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
Rory, I agree that we are all One, but different. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: Are these tricks commonplace on FFL? Just need to know what I'm getting in to. Alternatively, are these accusations commonplace on FFL. Just need to know what I'm getting in to. A Reader beware posting might help clarify. Yes, these tricks are very commonplace. An easy rule of thumb or Cliff Notes to sort out the Dramatis Personae might be, Whatever and whoever I encounter on FFL* -- that too is essentially Only Me, as it arises out of and is made of nothing but a perturbation of My own awareness... *or anywhere else, for that matter (And for Curtis, Turq et al., that's *pertur-*, though verily many a *Master* has also baited or been baited by his- or her own reflection, before remembering that it is all, after all, only the Self playing with itSelf.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
Ravi, Thanks for the coaching. I guess you, for one, are providing the ¨Reader Beware¨caution, on request. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Looks like it Bob :-), anyway thanks to Alex for the explanation. Dan - anyone can start playing tricks and making wild accusations here - that's the nature of this list which provides for anonymous posting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: If my post to Ravi is thought of as anything more than a joke I need more writing practise. From: danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 6:13:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam Are these tricks commonplace on FFL? Just need to know what I'm getting in to. Alternatively, are these accusations commonplace on FFL. Just need to know what I'm getting in to. A Reader beware posting might help clarify. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Ravi, I apologize in advance for this and please correct me if I'm wrong, I hate to be thought of as a fink. But I was just looking at the Post Count and I would swear you are listed twice. I don't think this is the same as MZ, Turq and myself being the same poster. From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 2:12:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam Thanks Bob for humorous musings, welcome and apologies. Trust me no offense taken, what you say makes sense since I sat on your message for a while and didn't even feel like responding anything. Surely I'm the first one to deserve these cheapshots since I constantly indulge in it as well though I'm pretty shameless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Ravi, I was wondering when you would get around to me. Actually I was hoping you missed it because I've been feeling a bit ashamed of myself. The Golden Rule is about all I have left and I completely blew it with what can only be viewed as a cheap shot. Sorry for that, sincerely, and thank you for not forgetting me. Oh and I almost forgot. Thank you for figuring out my real name. Bobby, as in up and down. I'm guessing that you've probably considered the possibility that MZ and I could be the same poster. Although if we head down that road possibly MZ is an invention of Turq, which he may have done out of shear boredom. Isn't there a vedic creation myth that says thats what all the creation is? The big guy got bored? Well one thing we know for sure is that I can't write nearly as well as those other two manifestations, or at least punctuate. Anyway I love you man and I'm glad you're here both on the post and in this crazy old creation of MZ's. Om Shanti bro.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: We need to understand that the words used for the transcendent are more concrete and understandable in context with the Hebrew culture. Thus, the words Father, Son and Holy Ghost were used by the Christian Church Fathers to describe the phenomenon of the unified field, the transcendent. MMY's idea of the rishi-devata-chandas relationship is fine for analytical purposes. But it lacks the personal message to human beings who can only understand concrete words such as father, mother and son to get a glimpse of the mechanics of the unified field. RG: Agreed... J: IMO, it could very well be in the end, that heaven or the higher lokas described in the Bible and the vedic literature may be the perfect version of what we see here on earth. That is, there could be trees, forests, oceans, animals and people (those who are deserving) in heaven. RG: An interesting take on it, John; you may well be right. IMO, all of those lokas are essentially states of consciousness, and all available here and now for those who are open to themSo, yes, there would be trees, forests, oceans, animals, and people -- all of whom are devotees of the divine...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Rory, I agree that we are all One, but different. Ha! Yes, Dan, can't argue with that! I was just trying to point out that if someone out there disturbs us, it's really not out there at all, but our own thoughts in here that are doing the disturbing :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
(Duplicate response; the other may have been eaten by Yahoo, like several others lately) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which makes more sense to me, the order being less important than the similarity of function, at least as I perceive it. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess. That may be what Paligap meant by saying the mapping is a bit tricky. Yes! Rather like language itself, where words may convey quite different tonalities to different people, or even the same people, in different contexts at different times. None of it is carved in stone, as far as I can see, anyhow. Perhaps I am a fan of the Latin Rite's filioque tenet -- saying that the Holy Ghost (as Chhandas) proceeds from the Father (Rishi) *and from the Son* (Devata) -- whereas seeing the HG as Devata may be more of a Greek-Rite idea, as the Greeks see the HG (Devata) proceeding only from the Father (Rishi) and not the Son (Chhandas).
[FairfieldLife] The way of the future
The way of the future by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 8 May 2011 In a very few years time, the present period of stress and hardship will be much allayed. Behind the scenes, much is changing. Many of the forces which have brought about the conflict and struggle of today are weakening, and are being replaced by forces altogether more favourable to men. So many different energies, and direction of these energies, are simultaneously involved at the present moment that it is difficult to ascertain precisely when this change will begin, but it should not be much more than about two years before the first clear signs of change are discernable. There will follow a period of change which few would conceive possible in so short a period of time: the present upsurge of demands for freedom and involvement in their own destiny which has been manifested so strongly by the people of the Middle East will sweep across the world and involve country after country, large and small. Thus will the Voice of the People grow ever stronger and more eloquent. More and more, men and women everywhere will begin to understand clearly their needs and their invincible strength to claim their birthright. Inevitably, some countries will find the changes easier to achieve than will others. Some will find that the groups who, for centuries, have wielded power and built their citadels of wealth will be loath to relinquish that supremacy, but the forces for change will become so insistent and unstoppable that they, too, will have to alter their direction and adjust to the demands of their people. New society Thus a new society will evolve with remarkable speed, one that holds sacred the right of all people to self-determination, the democratic right to involvement in their society and their future; their right to adequate living standards, healthcare and education. Above all, men will claim the right to live in peace. Maitreya will sustain men in their demands for justice and freedom and will magnetise their every effort. As He did in Cairo, He will be with all who make their demands in peace, respecting all groups and all religions, without rancour and competition. Thus will men come to understand the way of the future, the only way which will guarantee that future, a future shared by all, without division. (Read more articles by the Master) http://share-international.org/master/master.htm http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-06.htm#Mest\ ari http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-06.htm#Mes\ tari
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which makes more sense to me, the order being less important than the similarity of function, at least as I perceive it. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess. That may be what Paligap meant by saying the mapping is a bit tricky. Yes! Rather like language itself, where words may convey quite different tonalities to different people, or even the same people, in different contexts at different times. None of it is carved in stone, as far as I can see, anyhow. Perhaps some of form of this disagreement was behind the quoque controversy? If so, I guess I'd go with the Latin rite, saying the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father and from the Son, while those who ascribe the devata-value to the HG might say it proceeds from the Father alone...
[FairfieldLife] Questions and Answers a selection - Benjamin Creme
http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-06.htm#top\ Questions and Answers a selection Q. How many interviews has Maitreya given to date in the USA? A. 29. Q. How many interviews has Maitreya given to date in Mexico? A. Seven. Q. Has Maitreya started giving interviews now on His own, that is to say, not as a member of a panel? A. Yes. Q. (1) Sathya Sai Baba has shed His body today [24 April 2011] and my heart is truly aching with pain for the physical loss. It came sooner than expected. In my mind I know He is always with us. Can you please give some solace if possible. (2) Will Maitreya's Day of Declaration be in any way more `sped' up for us now? A. (1) Sai Baba has died so His influence in the world will not be equal to what it was formerly, but it should be remembered that Sathya Sai Baba has predicted a third manifestation, when He will return in a few years as Prema Sai. (2) Not necessarily. The Day of Declaration has its own rhythm. Q. I would like to ask a question about the recent death of Sathya Sai Baba. Regarding your Master's information, Sai Baba embodies the energy of the Cosmic Christ, and Maitreya is the Planetary Christ. (1) Does the recent death of Sai Baba mean that his work as the Cosmic Christ to prepare humanity for the work of Maitreya, the Planetary Christ, had been finished, so humanity is ready now for Maitreya? (2) Does this also mean that Maitreya is getting closer to working completely openly with humanity so there is no need for the Cosmic Christ and the Planetary Christ to be simultaneously in the world? Thank you for your insights? A. (1) No. The question shows a misunderstanding of the purpose for Sai Baba's manifestation. Sai Baba did not come as the Cosmic Christ to prepare humanity for the work of Maitreya but for His own purposes as an Avatar. So this question does not arise. (2) Again this question does not arise. The death of Sai Baba has nothing to do with the readiness or otherwise of Maitreya to work openly in the world. Q. Sai Baba is thought to have said that He would live to be 96 years old, but he died recently aged 84 years. Was His prediction not correct? A. The following accurate explanation, from Sai Baba devotee Sri Philip M. Prasad, was published in the Malayalam Daily, in Kerala, India, on 25 April 2011: What Baba has foretold was indeed correct. According to the Roman calendar he has completed 84 years. But one can note that generally in all of Baba's discourses Baba had been referring to the star (lunar) basis in calculations. In Indian astrology there are 27 stars in a month starting with Aswathy and ending with Revathy. Accordingly a year of 12 months is composed of 324 days. Sai Baba was born on 23 November 1926. From that day till 24 April 2011 there were a total of 30,834 days. If this is divided with 324, we get 95 years and 54 days. Accordingly, under the star basis of calculation he was in his 96th year having completed 54 days when he left his physical body. Q. Will Sai Baba continue to be present in consciousness and to oversee his life's work, to inspire and guide his devotees? A. Yes. Q. Will Sai Baba continue to overshadow Benjamin Creme at the end of his public lectures, as he has done for many years? A. Yes. Q. Is it accurate to say that Sai Baba sacrificed himself taking on the karma and illness of many of his followers and thus shortened his own life? A. He did not shorten His own life but He did take on the karma of devotees on several occasions for short periods, but that was not the cause of His death. Q. The killing of Osama bin Laden by an American special attack force in Pakistan has just been announced. He is said to have been shot in the eye and killed (though unarmed) and the body to have been buried at sea, that is, not retrievable for inspection. Can you say if this is indeed the end of Bin Laden? A. I do believe that Osama bin Laden is no longer alive, but this report from the US administration does not tally with my information, which is that Osama bin Laden died peacefully, after a long struggle with illness, in 2006. Before he died he wished to maintain his call for `justice' (as he understood the term) and arranged for one of his many younger brothers to maintain the myth of his presence. Q. In 2007 Benazir Bhutto said in an interview that Osama bin Laden was dead. (1) Was she right? (2) How did he die? (3) Where is his body buried? (4) If this scenario is accurate, why was his death kept secret? (5) Supposing these are the facts, how long have the Americans known of Osama bin Laden's demise? A. (1) Yes. (2) He died after a long struggle with cancer and kidney disease. (3) It was not buried but burned. (4) He wanted to maintain the myth as a rallying call for the young. (5) They probably believed he was still alive. Q. Why was Osama bin Laden shot? Why was he not captured and brought to justice? A. Ask the Americans. Q. Why was his body buried at sea? A. Ask the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Don't know about the rest of you but I'm concerned we have not heard from the Zebra for almost two days. If you're honest, you have to admit its not the same without him. If I'm honest, I hadn't noticed he was missing. But then I'm not a fan of either his ideas or his writing style, so I didn't notice that there were fewer posts to click Next on than usual. FFL has seemed pretty much the same old same old to me, with him present or without him present. That is, a forum on which most of the standard topics have been discussed to death years ago, and on which the only excitement is some newbie bringing them all up again as if they *hadn't* been done to death years ago. Could that possibly be because instead of reading his posts and the discussions he was having, you clicked Next? I'm wondering because what you go on to describe of your impression of his participation here doesn't appear to match the reality. It seems to be a habit of yours to engage in lengthy analyses of posts you haven't read, to similar effect. It's almost as if instead of reading the posts, you imagine what's in them and then spend considerable time analyzing what you've imagined.
[FairfieldLife] A tribute to Sai Baba
http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-06.htm#top\ A tribute Sri Sathya Sai Baba, 23 November 1926 24 April 2011 It was with deep sadness that Share International learned of the death of Sai Baba, who died on 24 April. His death has been reported in the everyday media worldwide. Benjamin Creme said of Him: I would say that Sai Baba is the most fully Divine Being to grace this planet with His presence. He is an Avatar, not out of the Earth evolution, but a cosmic visitor, so to speak. Sri Sathya Sai Baba is a Spiritual Regent, a representative of Divinity on our planet, and embodies the energy of Cosmic Love, or the Christ Principle at the cosmic level. That energy flowed and continues to flow from Him into the world. Asked about Sai Baba's life and death, Benjamin Creme said: It is a great loss but Sai Baba has not gone away; although He has left His physical body He will continue His work. Sai Baba was the second of three incarnational manifestations on Earth of a great Spiritual Being: the first incarnation was as Sai Baba of Shirdi, the second life was as Sathya Sai Baba, and He Himself predicted that the third and final incarnation would be early in the 21st century as Prema Baba, and that he would be born in the state of Karnataka. Sai Baba's life was a life of service; and it is key in all His teachings. Among other legacies, ultra-modern free hospitals, schools and universities were established in India and other countries under His guidance, and He ensured a free water supply to millions of people. This great Avatar also has a role in stimulating the love nature of humanity in general, which opens the heart centre in those nearing the first initiation. As readers of Share International will know, Sai Baba and Maitreya work together for the regeneration of the world, both embodying the same energy: Sai Baba, the Christ Principle on a Cosmic level, Maitreya, the same principle on a Planetary level. At Mr Creme's public talks Sai Baba and Maitreya both overshadowed Mr Creme, showing the connection between these two great Avatars. Benjamin Creme has described how Sai Baba began this process for the first time at a lecture in the amphitheatre of an American college in 1982. When answering a question on the relationship between Maitreya and Sai Baba, Mr Creme suddenly felt a tremendous energy, which he described as coming at him like an express train, faster and faster. When he asked his Master what it was, the Master replied: Sai Baba has added His Blessing to the audience. This process has continued ever since and we understand will still continue. In more recent years there has been from some quarters denigration of Sai Baba's person, activities and worth, accusing him of `trickery', deception and misuse of powers. Benjamin Creme has always defended the veracity of Sai Baba's work and of His miracles for the millions of His devotees worldwide. As Creme says, the tallest trees bear the best fruits and also therefore attract the most stones. Over the years, Share International magazine has often carried articles and reports about Sai Baba. We would like to express our sympathies to His co-workers and devotees all over the world. [Sathya Sai Baba] http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/images/201106_s\ ai_baba.jpg Sri Sathya Sai Baba http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-06.htm#Mest\ ari http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-06.htm#Mes\ tari
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gestapo Amerikana's new fear tactic
On 07/06/2011 07:31 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: WASHINGTON (AP) — Airlines are being warned by the government that terrorists are considering surgically hiding bombs inside humans to evade airport security. And as a result, travelers may find themselves subjected to more scrutiny when flying in the heart of summer vacation season, especially to the U.S. from abroad. http://news.yahoo.com/alert-terrorists-look-implant-bombs-humans-205903789.html More scrutiny, eh? I guess the TSA perverts haven't gotten their fill. They want more. So be afraid, very afraid and hope that Abdul doesn't stumble in the airport parking lot. That could be a gory mess. Thanks to Osama bin Laden's treasure trove of intelligence, perverts at Homeland Security now have an excuse to classify women's breasts as potential weapons of mass destruction. A pair of boobs powerful enough to blow up an airplane, kinda puts a man's fear of vagina dentata in perspective, IMO. In order for [the explosive] to work, there would need to be a detonation device, and it's conceivable that if the explosive was implanted in a woman's breast, the detonator could be underneath the breast so that all the operative would have to do is press downward. The banks have done more damage to the American public than Bin Laden ever dreamed of. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: (Duplicate response; the other may have been eaten by Yahoo, like several others lately) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which makes more sense to me, the order being less important than the similarity of function, at least as I perceive it. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess. That may be what Paligap meant by saying the mapping is a bit tricky. Yes! Rather like language itself, where words may convey quite different tonalities to different people, or even the same people, in different contexts at different times. None of it is carved in stone, as far as I can see, anyhow. Perhaps I am a fan of the Latin Rite's filioque tenet -- saying that the Holy Ghost (as Chhandas) proceeds from the Father (Rishi) *and from the Son* (Devata) -- whereas seeing the HG as Devata may be more of a Greek-Rite idea, as the Greeks see the HG (Devata) proceeding only from the Father (Rishi) and not the Son (Chhandas). I could well be wrong, but I don't have the impression that there's a proceeding from question with rishi- devata-chhandas. MMY spoke of the Samhita of rishi-devata- chhandas, rather than suggesting that there's a sequence. I suspect the sequence idea is strictly Western, making it linear rather than self-referential. So at least in that sense the two trinities may not be comparable. But I'm not knowledgeable enough either about Christian Trinitarian theology or the metaphysics of Samhita to do anything but guess.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I could well be wrong, but I don't have the impression that there's a proceeding from question with rishi- devata-chhandas. MMY spoke of the Samhita of rishi-devata- chhandas, rather than suggesting that there's a sequence. I suspect the sequence idea is strictly Western, making it linear rather than self-referential. So at least in that sense the two trinities may not be comparable. But I'm not knowledgeable enough either about Christian Trinitarian theology or the metaphysics of Samhita to do anything but guess. Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27 states of being, soncsiousness, and bliss), and thus in that sense sequential, it is after all just another model and you know I don't really hold with sequential milestones being de rigeur anyhow :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I could well be wrong, but I don't have the impression that there's a proceeding from question with rishi- devata-chhandas. MMY spoke of the Samhita of rishi-devata- chhandas, rather than suggesting that there's a sequence. I suspect the sequence idea is strictly Western, making it linear rather than self-referential. So at least in that sense the two trinities may not be comparable. But I'm not knowledgeable enough either about Christian Trinitarian theology or the metaphysics of Samhita to do anything but guess. Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27 states of being, consciousness, and bliss), and thus in that sense sequential, it is after all just another model and you know I don't really hold with sequential milestones being de rigeur anyhow :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Deepak Chopra on Maharishi's Poisoning...'
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Robert babajii...@yahoo.com wrote: I wonder why no one was ever charged in this crime...? Who was the foriegnor in India, in 1991? Anyone want to make a guess? I could guess about a billion people. They're all foreigners. Very few Americans there. This would explain why Maharishi retreated to Holland for all of the rest of his years... You mean to avoid arrest? So the first thing Maharishi does when he gets to Vlodrup is to talk about destroying the monastery. He sure knew how to make himself welcome wherever he went. And also why he disliked the USA and Britain, politiically in his later years... He was an old, bitter, hateful man. Something you're not supposed to turn into if you do TM and the TMSP. But Maharishi did neither. This would also explain, his forming of the World Government, as he felt that the CIA was trying to infultrate the movement for years before that... No, being delusional would explain the first time we had to trek to a city or state capital to get tomorrow proclaimed TM/Maharishi day. After that came those ghastly seasonal celebrations where we had to try, with a straight fact, to invite notables to pitch them on TM, have them watch our nonsense and give them bizarre awards. And he was still somewhat in touch with reality in those days.Just because you talk the talk of enlightenment doesn't mean you're not as mad as a hatter. Good one. Hatters became mad from working with mercury. As innocent as he was, I think he was shocked that someone would attempt to kiss him, and probably an agent of a government, who may have felt threatened by someone bringing peace to the world... The Godfather tried to kiss him? He always did dislike the Bush's to put it mildly... Yeah. Bush got attention. He was somebody who once was. and of course, Bush's poodle, Tony Blair... this whole incident would explain a lot, in that Maharishi would not have been the same person after a trauma like this one.. Yes indeed. By then even delusional he would have started to understand that you can fool some of the people all of the time...
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Curtis Others
Really enjoyed this. I listened to some of the beginning and then skipped to the 38:38 mark for the little story. I was not disappointed! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend sent me this. Not exactly your kind of music, but you may enjoy it. i highly recommend viewing this episode of austin city limits starring allen toussaint, an american icon of the new orleans music sound. he is a big big favorite of mine! some months ago i was lucky enough to catch this show--every minute of it is pure high quality musical entertainment. it runs about an hour--for those of you who don't have that kind of time i strongly urge you to forward to the 38:38 mark and relax and let allen tell you a little story. this intro has got to be one of my all time favorites--along with bruce springteen's phenomenal story telling days! this is a little gentler and nostalgic, this TRANSPORTED me to a time in my life when i ALWAYS felt safe, back when i was little jerry. while it was the south side of chicago and not the country of louisiana that allen reminisces about, it was the same kind of feeling--mother is at home. this is beautiful, his voice is so calming to listen to, along with the accompanying piano which is SO in sync with his words. i got so lost in the intro i that i was surprised when i realize what the song he was going into was... it forever changed the way i hear this song. this intro for me was like a masterpiece painting, so vivid that i felt as if i were there back in time with him. i hope this is as beautiful for you as it is for me. http://video.klru.tv/video/1378867539/
[FairfieldLife] Re: âMeditation promoted for soldiers suffering from PTSDâ â CNN
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@... wrote:    http://www.tm.org/blog/news/cnn/     âI am a great supporter of Transcendental Meditation. I have been using it for almost 40 years. I think that it is a great tool for anyone to utilize as tool for stressâ¦. But itâs especially important considering the stress that our men and women of our armed forces go through. I think that it is a great system to use in life in generalâotherwise why would I have been doing it all these years!â The event is here: http://tinyurl.com/6l4hhch
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Sometimes I think that in some alternative universe Oscar Wilde and Mark Twain got together, had a some- what improbable (but not impossible) love affair, and even more improbably (but not impossibly), fathered a love child together. Yet more improbably (but not impossibly), the birth of that love child was delayed for several decades, while the soul took advantage of the delay to kick back and mature and think up more good one-liners. The result was Curtis Delta Blues. That is pretty funny
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
Judy, You would be spinning your wheels like the other speculators here. There is no relationship, whether actual or imagined between the various strata of the Vedic system and any form of Christian theology. Christian theology developed as various layers of Hellenic polytheism were grafted onto Semitic monotheism. This shotgun wedding was recently called a bastard union of the inherited conglomerate and rightly so. It only became de rigueur in the parlors after being made de jure by Constantine. Such is the history of this Godly illumination made popular by privileging the faithful (City people) over the pagans (country folk). Perhaps it could be intelligible to talk about Latin horizontal hypostases versus Orthodox vertical hypostases as two different ways to think while considering Trinitarian speculations. But what's the point? I think the key here is to recognize just how speculative all this is. It is even more vacant of meaning than trying to stitch Blavatsky's Theosophy onto Vedic/Puranic/Tantric cosmology. .. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: (Duplicate response; the other may have been eaten by Yahoo, like several others lately) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which makes more sense to me, the order being less important than the similarity of function, at least as I perceive it. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess. That may be what Paligap meant by saying the mapping is a bit tricky. Yes! Rather like language itself, where words may convey quite different tonalities to different people, or even the same people, in different contexts at different times. None of it is carved in stone, as far as I can see, anyhow. Perhaps I am a fan of the Latin Rite's filioque tenet -- saying that the Holy Ghost (as Chhandas) proceeds from the Father (Rishi) *and from the Son* (Devata) -- whereas seeing the HG as Devata may be more of a Greek-Rite idea, as the Greeks see the HG (Devata) proceeding only from the Father (Rishi) and not the Son (Chhandas). I could well be wrong, but I don't have the impression that there's a proceeding from question with rishi- devata-chhandas. MMY spoke of the Samhita of rishi-devata- chhandas, rather than suggesting that there's a sequence. I suspect the sequence idea is strictly Western, making it linear rather than self-referential. So at least in that sense the two trinities may not be comparable. But I'm not knowledgeable enough either about Christian Trinitarian theology or the metaphysics of Samhita to do anything but guess.
[FairfieldLife] Do you suffer from FFL SA?
Given the way some seem to go batshit crazy on a regular basis around here, I'm thinking that the affliction of SA affects more than gamers. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/gamers-swamp-ass-psa_n_891280.html Put down the keyboard. Stand up. Take a walk outside. Use a hair dryer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
On a slightly different note, I remember enjoying Rene Guenon's The Great Triad quite a bit. Did you read it, and if so, what did you think of it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Judy, You would be spinning your wheels like the other speculators here. There is no relationship, whether actual or imagined between the various strata of the Vedic system and any form of Christian theology. Christian theology developed as various layers of Hellenic polytheism were grafted onto Semitic monotheism. This shotgun wedding was recently called a bastard union of the inherited conglomerate and rightly so. It only became de rigueur in the parlors after being made de jure by Constantine. Such is the history of this Godly illumination made popular by privileging the faithful (City people) over the pagans (country folk). Perhaps it could be intelligible to talk about Latin horizontal hypostases versus Orthodox vertical hypostases as two different ways to think while considering Trinitarian speculations. But what's the point? I think the key here is to recognize just how speculative all this is. It is even more vacant of meaning than trying to stitch Blavatsky's Theosophy onto Vedic/Puranic/Tantric cosmology. .. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: (Duplicate response; the other may have been eaten by Yahoo, like several others lately) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which makes more sense to me, the order being less important than the similarity of function, at least as I perceive it. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice, I guess. That may be what Paligap meant by saying the mapping is a bit tricky. Yes! Rather like language itself, where words may convey quite different tonalities to different people, or even the same people, in different contexts at different times. None of it is carved in stone, as far as I can see, anyhow. Perhaps I am a fan of the Latin Rite's filioque tenet -- saying that the Holy Ghost (as Chhandas) proceeds from the Father (Rishi) *and from the Son* (Devata) -- whereas seeing the HG as Devata may be more of a Greek-Rite idea, as the Greeks see the HG (Devata) proceeding only from the Father (Rishi) and not the Son (Chhandas). I could well be wrong, but I don't have the impression that there's a proceeding from question with rishi- devata-chhandas. MMY spoke of the Samhita of rishi-devata- chhandas, rather than suggesting that there's a sequence. I suspect the sequence idea is strictly Western, making it linear rather than self-referential. So at least in that sense the two trinities may not be comparable. But I'm not knowledgeable enough either about Christian Trinitarian theology or the metaphysics of Samhita to do anything but guess.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Published research from the Shamatha Project
Shamatha is just another variant on TM practice, similar to Tibetan Dzogchen... TM bears no similarity to any Dzogchen practice that I am aware of. The key words here are 'samatha' and samadhi; samatha (calm abiding) is a subset of the broader family of samadhi or meditation practices, according to Alan Wallace, (page 6). Buddhist meditation is called object oriented meditation - mental objects such as as bija mantras, breathing, a certain scriptural passage such as the Hridaya Sutra, etc. Buddhist shamatha meditation is cognate with Patanjali's sixth limb: dharana. In Tibetan Buddhism, the samatha instructions are presented in the Kagyu tradition by sGampopa. You should recognize the TM practice if you had studied under a Tibetan master. So, I can only conclude that you have neither training in TM or in Tibetan Buddhism. Go figure. From the Mahamudra point of view, we should not desire meditative equipoise nor have an aversion to discursive thoughts and conflicting emotions but view both of these states with equanimity. Again, the significant point is not whether meditative equipoise is present but whether we are able to maintain awareness of our mental states. If disturbing thoughts do arise, as they certainly will, we should simply recognize these thoughts and emotions as transient phenomena... - Traleg Kyabgon (pages 149-152). Work cited: 'The Attention Revolution' By Alan Wallace Wisdom Publications, 2006, p.6 'Mind at Ease' by Traleg Kyabgon Shambhala, 2004
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
Apparently, most of the Greeks understood very well the message of Christ through St. Paul since they abandoned their beliefs in the Olympian gods. Perhaps, the switchover was a natural progression of human consciousnes given the background of the mythical and anthromorphic--albeit fickle--dieties in their early culture. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Somewhere in the New Testament, in Greek, there are three words listed in order of their progression: 'pneuma' (wind or spirit), 'psyche' (usually translated as soul), and 'soma' (body). There is another word 'nous' variously translated as mind, intellect or something like intuitive understanding, but where that fits in this scheme I do not know. The word 'pneuma' is the word translated variously as Ghost or Spirit. The word 'hagios' which means veneration or religious awe is the word translated as Holy. The New Testament documents are presumed to have been originally written in Greek, which was a common language at the time, used by Jews, Romans and the Greeks, and not written in Aramaic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: I find it interesting that Catholics say Holy Ghost but Evangelicals say The Holy Spirit. I'm not exactly sure what the role of this enigmatic Entity is - perhaps to inspire people to speak in Tongues, or play Gospel music on 12-stringed guitars. Also, I've never encountered any reports of people having visions of the Holy Ghost. Maybe he/she prefers to stay out of the limelight. http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Casper-Friendly-Ghost-Mobile-Game-for-Halloween-2.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Practicing some kind of Cosmic Tantrum Yoga, He withdrew Himself (or at least the Holy Ghost part of Himself, which we all know is the cool part) from this world, for His own reasons. Cosmic Tantrum Yoga! BTW - I have never understood this Holy Ghost business. I think the Muslims have a point about Christianity: God is One: The Father, Son Holy Ghost. Er.. say, what? Can someone enlighten me - what IS the Holy Ghost? Not having been raised a Chrisschun myself, I shall leave more scholarly explanations to others. I will merely speculate that God may have had an unrequited thang for Casper the Friendly Ghost, and chose to play dress-up as him from time to time. MMY's idea of the rishi-devata-chandas relationship Little help here John please. What was that idea? PaliGap, The rishi is the principle of the unifield that pertains to the Knower. Devata pertains to the Process of Knowing. And, chandas pertains to the Known. Thanks John (mapping to the Trinity seems a bit tricky though) These three principles are in constant flux within the unified field which can be considered to be the cause and dissolution of the universe or the omniverse. Similarly, we experience this dynamic relationship within our consciousness and meditations. comes close to the Christian Trinity. Even priests in the Catholic church cannot fully explain the Trinity. But it is part of church doctrine since it was conceived by the Church Fathers during the Council of Nicea.
