[FairfieldLife] The TM movement as retirement village for the senile
I've been staying out of the mock furor over one silly planted article in the NYTimes, allowing those who feel somehow invested in it one way or another to shoot their wads, and allowing at least one TB to make 38 posts in two days, either arguing about it or playing other ego games to puff up her imaginary self image. :-) But I will comment on the SADNESS of the TM movement these days, in terms of how it feels the need to market its products. First, as I commented on earlier, it has since Day One based most of its marketing appeal on the idiocy of the general public, and their tendency to believe that "If someone famous does it/wears it/drives it, I should, too." Maharishi, like many Indians, was the utter personification of celebrity-worship and using these celebrities to make people believe that he had similar celebrity. It can be honestly speculated that if he hadn't run into the Beatles, no more than a few thousand people would *ever* have started TM. ( As an aside, and to underscore that it's not just TMers who are suckers for this blatant use of celebrities to sell things, did you know that companies pay celebrities *millions* of dollars to shill for them as their "celebrity spokespersons?" Kim Kardashian -- that vapid, unattractive, talentless bimbo who made herself famous by releasing a video of herself fucking and claimed it had been "leaked" -- now gets $10,000 every time she mentions a product on one of her TWEETS? Now *that* is insane. ) But the sad part is that the TMO *still* use this technique, because the OLD PEOPLE who run the TM movement 1) are so lacking in creativity that they can't think of any way to market their products that Maharishi didn't use himself, 2) they're OLD PEOPLE, still caught up in celebrity- worship themselves, and 3) the primary target of all of their marketing efforts are OLD PEOPLE like themselves, the hangers-on to the myth of the TM movement, not new TMers at all. The TMO has done such a shitty job with its image over the years that it simply *cannot* market TM as a stand- alone product competing with better and more reasonably priced forms of meditation. So they have to use celebrities to sell it, and *primarily to existing meditators*. THAT has been their real "marketing strateqy" since the late 1970s -- "preaching to the converted," trying to get *them* to feel good about practicing TM so that they'll continue to flood the movement with donations. Fascinatingly, that is the approach that Maharishi fell back upon and that is still being used today to try to market TM to new people. It's still completely based on an appeal to OLD PEOPLE, and in particular *wealthy* OLD PEOPLE. *No one even tries* to present TM as a standalone product and sell it to the end users. Instead they pitch it as a panacea for social ills, and as a way to "help" the Victim Du Jour -- children, PTSD veterans, etc. The *entire appeal* is to rich OLD PEOPLE, to try to get them to "contribute," either with their names (if they are celebrities) or with money, or both. One can say that the use of "science" to try to sell TM is an extension of the same idea. In our era, "science" itself is a bit of a celebrity -- claim that something is "scientific" and an astounding number of people will actually believe it. So they concocted pseudo-science based on Bad Protocols to make it *look* as if TM had some scientific validation, and again a large number of people bought into this. In my opinion, this all started NOT as an attempt to market TM to new people, but as a way to "preach to the converted" and keep existing OLD PEOPLE -- the TMO "base" -- on the hook and still contrib- uting by sending in donations or paying for courses. And again, it worked, because people never seem to tire of being told, "You're so smart...you made the right decision... lookie here...even *science* thinks that TM is worth doing." And of course hoardes of OLD PEOPLE, wishing to be told that the hours they'd spent sitting on their butts (let alone bouncing on them) weren't wasted, lapped it up like dogs, and continue to. TMers *still* salivate over every celebrity mention, and every crap study presented as if it were real research. But the bottom line is that the TM movement is OLD, and dying. And so is its "base." IT CANNOT COMPETE in the "meditation marketplace" with tech- niques that present themselves more honestly, such as mindful- ness meditation or other techniques still taught cheaply or for free. So it still tries to rely on celebrity and on pseudo- science to market itself to the rich people who are anxious to work their *own* image by appearing to be benevolent donors to "good works." THERE IS NO OTHER SOURCE OF INCOME. That's ALL that the TMO has got. Pretty sad, for a technique that once had the ability to be sold as what it was, a simple, easily learned technique of relaxation to be practiced max twice a day for 20 minutes, and sold for what it was actually worth -- 35 bucks. That a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light(ness) and aakaasha?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > Why is paying "relaxed" attention to aakaasha possibly associated with > (inner?) light or prakaasha? > Perhaps, when combined with samaapatti (~ samaadhi) of some light > stuff (like "fatton coyber") > it multiplies the effect of graviphotons?? > http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8506627834/in/photostream > [:o)] > http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8506627834/in/photostream
[FairfieldLife] Light(ness) and aakaasha?
Why is paying "relaxed" attention to aakaasha possibly associated with (inner?) light or prakaasha? Perhaps, when combined the with samaapatti (~ samaadhi) of some light stuff (like "fatton coyber") it multiplies the effect of graviphotons?? http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8506627834/in/photostream [:o)]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who cares about the Oscars?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Believe it or not being a film buff I really don't care > about awards shows so won't bother with the Oscars and > haven't in a long time. Actually the favored best picture, > "Argo", I have seen. It was probably one of the last > movies I've gone out to see. Looks from the headlines as if it won. I don't watch the show, either, especially in real time from over here in Europe. The most I do is look for YouTube clips of the embarrassing speeches. :-) > BTW, some of the movies nominated will be available this > coming month to rent. This week I see "The Master" is > available for rent. Do tell us what you think of it. I was surprised at my reaction to it, finding it nigh unto unwatchable. Sure, Joaquin Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman were good in their roles, but the characters they played were so thoroughly low-vibe and horrific that I found it almost impossible to watch them. Amy Adams was tremendous, however, turning a nothing part into an Oscar nomination.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > My stepfather has dementia and a couple other people I know > had it before they died - when you have been around it as > much as I have, you recognize the signs - Marshy had it and > the bastards who were around him knew it and kept everyone > in the dark so they could keep the gravy train coming into > the station right on time Michael, you may not have dementia, but you have a disorderly mind. If you want to keep people from knowing somebody has dementia, you don't put them in front of people on live video for press conferences and celebrations and to discuss business with folks who've known them for years. I mean, you saw him, so obviously you weren't being kept in the dark. And you're hardly the only person to have remarked on his mental deterioration. It wasn't anything that *could* be kept in the dark as long as he was still communicating with people. So you can just can that particular conspiracy theory. It makes no sense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > > > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > > > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > > > > out before the cynics get find it. > > > > > > > > It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to > > > > comment *after* the cynics. > > > > > > Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at > > > the top of the list. > > > > Well, but then as you read the comments, your last > > impression is of the positive ones rather than the > > negative ones. > > > > But if there are a lot of comments, you're right, because > > folks would be unlikely to read all of them and might not > > even *get* to the positive ones. > > > > Maybe half the team should post right away, and the other > > half after the cynics are done? > > > > > Perhaps the NYT list will have some more > > > positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? > > > > How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. > > > Poor MJ. If the TMO decides to sue him for lies and slander he will loose his > trailer. Assuming he loses and owns a trailer. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past. > Smiley > > face. > > Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means > I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-: Oh, but at least you admit it when you are wrong. This is a long way from what lots of others are capable of. Being wrong and admitting it makes you endearingly human. (Barry?) > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > > > > > > > >Â > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > >> > > >> Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really "hated > > >> to say it," I wouldn't have said it. Smile. > > > > > >I'm wrong again. "Figure of speech" would have been my > > >second wild guess, though. ;-) > > > > > >> > From: Share Long > > >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM > > >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >ÃÂ > > >> >Emily, what is it you hate to say?ÃÂ And why? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > From: Emily Reyn > > >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM > > >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >ÃÂ > > >> >I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving > > >> >Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. ÃÂ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> From: Michael Jackson > > >> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM > > >> >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>ÃÂ > > >> >>Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on > > >> >>Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post > > >> >>there are. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> From: authfriend > > >> >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > >> >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>ÃÂ > > >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > >> >>> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > >> >>> not, > > >> >> > > >> >>What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > >> >>Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > >> >>case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > >> >>practice. > > >> >> > > >> >>> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > >> >>> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > >> >>> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > >> >> > > >> >>Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > > >> >>work (HTTP 404). > > >> >> > > >> >>> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > >> >>> Himalayas'. > > >> >> > > >> >>And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > >> >> > > >> >>"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > > >> >>mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > > >> >>flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > > >> >>do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > > >> >>are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > > >> >>producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > > >> >>to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > > >> >>select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > > >> >>suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > >> >>grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > >> >>life." > > >> >> > > >> >>Right? > > >> >> > > >> >>> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > >> >>> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Music
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I'm simply offering the raw material - I have lots of it unfrozen too! Splash around a bit, paddle with those big quaky duck feet of yours. You'll love it. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Very cool! I actually have this machine in my kitchen that manufactures > > > proto-ice instruments, 24x7. We call them ice "cubes". I sent an email to > > > the guy in the video offering to sell him mine at a fair price - Haven't > > > heard back yet... > > > > I'd like to see you produce something outstanding with them, other than > > iced tea. How about an ice cube sculpture with some coloured light > > generated by prismatic light? Then compose a soundtrack to go with. Please, > > please incorporate some aspect of the now famous duck walk too - that is > > still one of my favourite parts of your last video. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > > > > Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. > > > > http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Let 'em come on! From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > > > out before the cynics get find it. > > > > > > It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to > > > comment *after* the cynics. > > > > Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at > > the top of the list. > > Well, but then as you read the comments, your last > impression is of the positive ones rather than the > negative ones. > > But if there are a lot of comments, you're right, because > folks would be unlikely to read all of them and might not > even *get* to the positive ones. > > Maybe half the team should post right away, and the other > half after the cynics are done? > > > Perhaps the NYT list will have some more > > positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? > > How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. Poor MJ. If the TMO decides to sue him for lies and slander he will loose his trailer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
My stepfather has dementia and a couple other people I know had it before they died - when you have been around it as much as I have, you recognize the signs - Marshy had it and the bastards who were around him knew it and kept everyone in the dark so they could keep the gravy train coming into the station right on time From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia > > and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's > > why it was over closed circuit tv > > Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell > if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing > them via videoconference. I could tell there was something seriously wrong with him during his appearances on the Marshy channel, shaking hands, forgetfulness, repetitive speech and all his fading in and out of conciousness. Probably enough for a doctor to make a preliminary diagnosis or have him brought into hospital. It was certainly enough for me to think he should be propped up in bed with a hot water bottle at the very least, and not waffling on live television. I thought that if they cared about him at all they would make him lie down and rest, it wasn't like he was making sense at that stage. > Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* > suffering from dementia. > > > > From: salyavin808 > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > Â > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > negative. > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > out before the cynics get find it. > > > > It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the > > regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks > > were from people who joined within an hour or so of the > > article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and > > found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of > > modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- > > nically minded people I'd ever met. > > > > So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too > > as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting > > bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on > > the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction > > for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! > > Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what > > did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh > > to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. > > I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have > > given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self > > selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course > > details. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
I have never had contact with disembodied souls as I have said many times but you enjoy ignoring that bit of info From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell > if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing > them via videoconference. > > Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* > suffering from dementia. More likely severe confusion brought about by contact with too many disembodied souls.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
he became a "legend" because a lot of people like sick twisted stuff From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the > > subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with > > unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. > > Terms utterly alien to MJ. > > > So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love > and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien > baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off > and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but > highly disturbing. Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror movies. To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience something which you don't. You might find it "disturbing" and MJ calls it "trash". Perhaps this says something about your ability to perceive. Just an idea.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
idiots that would pay a mill for his darshan could have had him puke in their faces and would have considered it a blessing. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia > and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's > why it was over closed circuit tv Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing them via videoconference. Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* suffering from dementia. > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > negative. > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > out before the cynics get find it. > > It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the > regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks > were from people who joined within an hour or so of the > article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and > found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of > modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- > nically minded people I'd ever met. > > So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too > as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting > bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on > the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction > for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! > Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what > did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh > to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. > I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have > given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self > selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course > details. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
I noticed he was on the perverted side when I saw BLue Velvet, but Twins Peaks let him really explore his sick twisted side. That sob has problems that TM has never touched (not to mention the chain smoking) From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the > subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with > unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. > Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. But his explanations of how he combines meditation with psycho-sexual violence have never been very convincing, he probably never expected to get his orders to go out proselytising and didn't think he'd need to explain it. Not in a positive way anyway, if he said "I just like weird, pervy shit" and left it like that, no one would mind I'm sure. He did have a good chat up line though. When he met Isabella Rosselini he said: My God, you're so beautiful you could be Ingrid Bergman's daughter. And she replied: I am Ingrid Berman's daughter. Blue Velvet was his second best film which is interesting as he always says the TM experience takes him to greater creative heights but it seems that his career has been going downhill for a long time. Some good bits but the first few were classics, the rest like Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire are just tired and weird either for it's own sake or to detract from the fact no one could be bothered to finish the script. IMO of course.
[FairfieldLife] How to Travel at the Speed of Light
Turn off the Higgs Boson particle in matter. If only the engineers could figure out how to do this. This could be equivalent to a warp drive from Star Trek. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MFhAoUUmQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
i "clung" not "cling"... though it might be a freudian slip, or skirt. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > Well stated. :) > > The paranoia was horrid in those last days. I thought I was going crazy...and > I probably was. My saving thought as I sat alone rocking back and forth on my > bed at 16 years old...my saving thought was, "If I was crazy, I wouldn't know > it." I cling to that thought of logic. > > I found my way down the stairs at my parents home and pulled out the local > newspaper in search for help. There was an add for TM. I made the phone call > and was soon receiving my mantra. > > I'm not sure if TM was what helped me specifically or if simply taking some > sort of action and replacing the drugs helped. Regardless, that action did > help save my mind and my sanity. (Though some may disagree. haha) > > :) > *** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote: > > > > > > I also agree with you about trips eventually taking a turn toward the > > dark side. > > I'm convinced that taking a top-end psychedelic can give one a genuine > > experience of the divine - a gnosis of the divine Mind. The trouble is, > > when you take the drugs you're also trying to escape your everyday self > > and its everyday boring routine. You want to squeeze the maximum > > pleasure from the experience and twist it to serve your own desires and > > fantasies. The divine is indifferent to our ego games and one's > > repressed fears can't be held back for long and so come to the surface > > nightmarishly magnified by the effect of the psychedelic. > > Me too: when I'd had a bellyful of taking acid then trying TM seemed > > like the next natural step. And so it proved . . . > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > > > > > Hey Doc, > > > > > > Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I > > forget the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I > > couldn't respond at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this > > past Monday, 2/18, and wasn't able to really type and now can't remember > > where you commented. Sorry bout that.) > > > > > > Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience > > when under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's > > internal state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, > > please correct me.) > > > > > > In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the > > drug/herb jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always > > been horrid hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 > > years old and can atest to its horrors.) > > > > > > As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my > > experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made > > me horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or > > whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad > > effects (bad trips) or good effects (good trips). > > > > > > I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad > > trip comes from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used > > helps determine if what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not > > pleasurable. (Hope that makes sense.) > > > > > > Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was > > probably a blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I > > turned to TM by the way. Ha. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
Someone introduced me to the Erowid Vault a couple years ago. It's an interesting site regarding psychedelics. http://www.erowid.org/ I just googled the difference between MDA & MDMA. Here's one of the links: http://www.differencebetween.net/science/health/drugs-health/difference-between-mda-and-mdma/ * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken, MDMA is an offspring of MDA. I reckon I'll go google it > and find out. ;) > > MDA was the drug of choice typically...among the circle of folks with whom I > 'expanded'. > > Microdot...was another one. And Window Pane. Oh my...I wish I could recall > the nuances of each of those tiny little pieces of paper that could cause the > entire universe to be at one and where it seemed our little tripping circle > could communicate telepathically. > > I was reading again today on jimson weed. Someone asked about the long term > effects and wondered if it would cause Alzheimers onset. It's been almost 38 > years since my jimson weed experience. I don't think I have early Alzheimers. > I hope I never develop it. > > I've written a few memoir pieces about some of my drug daze. Jimson weed is > still the most vivid memory, I think. It was decades before I overcame my > deathly fear of cock roaches. > http://parchmentanthology.blogspot.com/2008/12/datura-stramonium-to-dance-with-devil.html > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote: > > > > > > Totally agree with you about mescaline: never enjoyed myself so much as > > on the stuff. I used to find everything absurdly hilarious. For example, > > a fish-and-chip shop owner was the Platonic archetype of all other > > fish-and-chip shop owners. Every other fish-and-chip shop owner you ever > > saw was just a pale imitation of this guy. I laughed hysterically > > virtually non-stop - except when police cars cruised past! > > Pity it became so hard to find - much better than MDMA or other > > alternatives. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > > > > > Hey Doc, > > > > > > Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I > > forget the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I > > couldn't respond at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this > > past Monday, 2/18, and wasn't able to really type and now can't remember > > where you commented. Sorry bout that.) > > > > > > Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience > > when under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's > > internal state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, > > please correct me.) > > > > > > In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the > > drug/herb jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always > > been horrid hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 > > years old and can atest to its horrors.) > > > > > > As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my > > experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made > > me horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or > > whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad > > effects (bad trips) or good effects (good trips). > > > > > > I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad > > trip comes from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used > > helps determine if what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not > > pleasurable. (Hope that makes sense.) > > > > > > Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was > > probably a blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I > > turned to TM by the way. Ha. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
Well stated. :) The paranoia was horrid in those last days. I thought I was going crazy...and I probably was. My saving thought as I sat alone rocking back and forth on my bed at 16 years old...my saving thought was, "If I was crazy, I wouldn't know it." I cling to that thought of logic. I found my way down the stairs at my parents home and pulled out the local newspaper in search for help. There was an add for TM. I made the phone call and was soon receiving my mantra. I'm not sure if TM was what helped me specifically or if simply taking some sort of action and replacing the drugs helped. Regardless, that action did help save my mind and my sanity. (Though some may disagree. haha) :) *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote: > > > I also agree with you about trips eventually taking a turn toward the > dark side. > I'm convinced that taking a top-end psychedelic can give one a genuine > experience of the divine - a gnosis of the divine Mind. The trouble is, > when you take the drugs you're also trying to escape your everyday self > and its everyday boring routine. You want to squeeze the maximum > pleasure from the experience and twist it to serve your own desires and > fantasies. The divine is indifferent to our ego games and one's > repressed fears can't be held back for long and so come to the surface > nightmarishly magnified by the effect of the psychedelic. > Me too: when I'd had a bellyful of taking acid then trying TM seemed > like the next natural step. And so it proved . . . > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > > > Hey Doc, > > > > Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I > forget the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I > couldn't respond at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this > past Monday, 2/18, and wasn't able to really type and now can't remember > where you commented. Sorry bout that.) > > > > Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience > when under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's > internal state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, > please correct me.) > > > > In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the > drug/herb jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always > been horrid hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 > years old and can atest to its horrors.) > > > > As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my > experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made > me horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. > > > > I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or > whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad > effects (bad trips) or good effects (good trips). > > > > I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad > trip comes from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used > helps determine if what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not > pleasurable. (Hope that makes sense.) > > > > Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was > probably a blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I > turned to TM by the way. Ha. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to grumpy rump turq
Well, Dr. Oz is famous in certain circles - he is a TV star now. What's funny is that I read "smart, successful and wealthy." Whoops! > > From: Share Long >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:34 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to grumpy rump turq > > > >How do you reconcile presenting yourself as so together and your life as so >wonderful and yet be so grumpy most of the time? >How do you reconcile being older than me and yet idiotic enough to chose my >excerpt that doesn't even contain the word famous?! >IOW, in this excerpt of mine that you chose, I used the words smart, >successful and healthy to describe Dr. Oz. Duh! >Something about jr high and brains and nose blowing and dynamite sneezing but >I don't feel like looking up the post. >last but not least, BAH! > > > > > From: turquoiseb >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:57 PM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: >> >> Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all >> that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as >> smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM >> and endorses it? > >How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still >being idiotic enough to believe that something is >good because someone famous does it? > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
If I'm not mistaken, MDMA is an offspring of MDA. I reckon I'll go google it and find out. ;) MDA was the drug of choice typically...among the circle of folks with whom I 'expanded'. Microdot...was another one. And Window Pane. Oh my...I wish I could recall the nuances of each of those tiny little pieces of paper that could cause the entire universe to be at one and where it seemed our little tripping circle could communicate telepathically. I was reading again today on jimson weed. Someone asked about the long term effects and wondered if it would cause Alzheimers onset. It's been almost 38 years since my jimson weed experience. I don't think I have early Alzheimers. I hope I never develop it. I've written a few memoir pieces about some of my drug daze. Jimson weed is still the most vivid memory, I think. It was decades before I overcame my deathly fear of cock roaches. http://parchmentanthology.blogspot.com/2008/12/datura-stramonium-to-dance-with-devil.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote: > > > Totally agree with you about mescaline: never enjoyed myself so much as > on the stuff. I used to find everything absurdly hilarious. For example, > a fish-and-chip shop owner was the Platonic archetype of all other > fish-and-chip shop owners. Every other fish-and-chip shop owner you ever > saw was just a pale imitation of this guy. I laughed hysterically > virtually non-stop - except when police cars cruised past! > Pity it became so hard to find - much better than MDMA or other > alternatives. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > > > Hey Doc, > > > > Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I > forget the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I > couldn't respond at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this > past Monday, 2/18, and wasn't able to really type and now can't remember > where you commented. Sorry bout that.) > > > > Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience > when under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's > internal state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, > please correct me.) > > > > In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the > drug/herb jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always > been horrid hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 > years old and can atest to its horrors.) > > > > As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my > experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made > me horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. > > > > I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or > whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad > effects (bad trips) or good effects (good trips). > > > > I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad > trip comes from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used > helps determine if what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not > pleasurable. (Hope that makes sense.) > > > > Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was > probably a blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I > turned to TM by the way. Ha. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
I also agree with you about trips eventually taking a turn toward the dark side. I'm convinced that taking a top-end psychedelic can give one a genuine experience of the divine - a gnosis of the divine Mind. The trouble is, when you take the drugs you're also trying to escape your everyday self and its everyday boring routine. You want to squeeze the maximum pleasure from the experience and twist it to serve your own desires and fantasies. The divine is indifferent to our ego games and one's repressed fears can't be held back for long and so come to the surface nightmarishly magnified by the effect of the psychedelic. Me too: when I'd had a bellyful of taking acid then trying TM seemed like the next natural step. And so it proved . . . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > Hey Doc, > > Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I forget the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I couldn't respond at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this past Monday, 2/18, and wasn't able to really type and now can't remember where you commented. Sorry bout that.) > > Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience when under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's internal state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, please correct me.) > > In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the drug/herb jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always been horrid hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 years old and can atest to its horrors.) > > As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made me horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. > > I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad effects (bad trips) or good effects (good trips). > > I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad trip comes from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used helps determine if what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not pleasurable. (Hope that makes sense.) > > Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was probably a blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I turned to TM by the way. Ha. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
Gosh, I don't even remember when my tinnitus started. It was a long time ago. I don't have any hearing loss either. Not even with these new developments, the dizzyness and alleged inner ear infection. My ears aren't what I would call big. But they are long. And one day, talking with my Dad, I noticed his ears. Donkey ears! Anyway I've inherited them. Fortunately I can hide them with my hair. BTW, tomorrow's he and his ears are 85 (-: Have put pineapple on the grocery list for tomorrow. Thanks for all these great health tips. Here's another: the osha root tincture seems to have stopped whatever was gearing up in my lungs. Tingle is all gone and coughing is greatly reduced. One website called it possibly the best remedy in North America for lung and throat problems. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru I've had tinnitus since 2007. It comes and goes and not any result of loud music, etc. In fact my hearing seems to be as good as ever (tested above average while playing in a rock band). But I had never heard of pineapple as a folk cure for tinnitus until I saw it on that homeveda site. So I went to the store and bought a container of sliced pineapple since a whole one is a bit much and then the mess of slicing it up. Well, it worked! BTW, how many of you have big ears? I've been noticing more recent generations seem to have smaller ears. On 02/24/2013 05:09 AM, Share Long wrote: > thanks Bhairitu, this came at just the right time. I had purchased a > homeopathic remedy for dizzyness but am holding off taking it while I'm > taking other stuff to strengthen the immune system and deal with a chest > tickle. So it's great to have a sound. I've already tried it a few times. > I think it helped. The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than > when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed > amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and > even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. Also my > ailment, whatever it is, seems to be moving around. A friend suggested osha > root for the chest tingle. It cured her laryngitis overnight! I could > definitely do with some increased blood flow to the brain (-: > > > > > > From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru > > > > Though dizziness can be due to different reasons, for me often any dizzy > spell was often relieved by practicing a kapha reducing mantra such as > "hoong". As you know the three doshas have their centers in different > areas of the body. Vata in the groin area, pitta in the stomach and > kapha in the head. Being somewhat balanced I observed that vata > reducing mantras tended to send energy (and thus blood flow) downward > (hence grounding). Kapha reducing mantras sent energy (and blood flow) > upward to the head. My observation was that my dizziness was due to > some reduced blood flow to the brain. > > On 02/23/2013 11:07 AM, Share Long wrote: >> Yeah, thank you, very useful. I looked up dizzyness and learned a whole >> bunch of natural ways to deal with it. Will definitely visit again. And >> pass it along to friends. >> >> >> >> >> >>From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru >> >> >> >> You might enjoy this web site that has a lot of videos and info for >> simple ayurvedic home remedies. >> >> http://www.homeveda.com/ >> >> On 02/21/2013 02:42 PM, Share Long wrote: >>> Well I eat a lot of cold food so I can't claim to follow a vata pacifying >>> diet. I think they emphasize it here because the US lifestyle is so vata >>> vitiating. Of course not so much in slow paced Fairfield. >>> >>> >>> I'd say I'm definitely a mixed type. I'm doing very well avoiding high >>> carb foods like pasta, rice, bread, also dairy. And I don't eat as much >>> fish as I'd like to. Basically that means a lot of legumes. Also not vata >>> pacifying! >>> >>> Noozguru wrote: Since we're all yogis a collapse shouldn't matter much to >>> us. We can >>> live with only a bedroll and toothbrush, right? :-D >>> >>> Me: maybe you yogis can, but as a yogini, I like a little comfort (-: >>> >>> Thank you for the info about East Indian style jyotish chart which I >>> googled and found. Also for knowledge of Maran siddhis which I had not >>> known about. Always a good day when I learn something new. >>> >>> Snow began just as they predicted around 2 pm Central. A steady fall, the >>> kind that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
Totally agree with you about mescaline: never enjoyed myself so much as on the stuff. I used to find everything absurdly hilarious. For example, a fish-and-chip shop owner was the Platonic archetype of all other fish-and-chip shop owners. Every other fish-and-chip shop owner you ever saw was just a pale imitation of this guy. I laughed hysterically virtually non-stop - except when police cars cruised past! Pity it became so hard to find - much better than MDMA or other alternatives. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > Hey Doc, > > Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I forget the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I couldn't respond at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this past Monday, 2/18, and wasn't able to really type and now can't remember where you commented. Sorry bout that.) > > Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience when under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's internal state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, please correct me.) > > In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the drug/herb jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always been horrid hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 years old and can atest to its horrors.) > > As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made me horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. > > I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad effects (bad trips) or good effects (good trips). > > I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad trip comes from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used helps determine if what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not pleasurable. (Hope that makes sense.) > > Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was probably a blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I turned to TM by the way. Ha. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to grumpy rump turq
How do you reconcile presenting yourself as so together and your life as so wonderful and yet be so grumpy most of the time? How do you reconcile being older than me and yet idiotic enough to chose my excerpt that doesn't even contain the word famous?! IOW, in this excerpt of mine that you chose, I used the words smart, successful and healthy to describe Dr. Oz. Duh! Something about jr high and brains and nose blowing and dynamite sneezing but I don't feel like looking up the post. last but not least, BAH! From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all > that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as > smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM > and endorses it? How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still being idiotic enough to believe that something is good because someone famous does it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
A must read for anyone who is still not convinced by my reference to channeling and healing as delusional - a clear example here - http://www.iloveyouandforgiveyou.org/newbook.htm On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula > wrote: > >> Look MJ - you need to do better than this pathetic, retarded retort of >> yours and if its not obvious to you - unless you are a woman or my friend - >> my attention is a curse and worse for someone stunted, paranoid and/or >> delusional like you. >> >> So go again or learn from Barry and/or Share on how to avoid my attention. >> >> Anyway it's confirmed - Mark and you are pals then huh? LOL - a great >> pairing BTW - I'm not complaining. >> > > May be you are Mark yourself - now that would make lot of sense. He was > into this healing/channeling delusional bullshit and would explain your > childish stubbornness in your mention of the skin boy for every argument. > You are probably screaming in your head every time your write about the > skin boy - it's me, it's me goddammit Nice, harmless guy - but totally > stunted, tortured soul. OMG get some therapy, get some healing, go on some > medication dude. > > > >> >> >> On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan >> Ram Ravi >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Ravi Chivukula >> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out >> Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin >> with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark >> Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding >> very paranoid at this point. >> >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: >> >> ** >> >> You already answered your own question: >> >> For our practice we select only the >> > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >> > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >> > life." >> >> >> -- >> *From:* authfriend >> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM >> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: >> > >> > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the >> > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is >> > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than >> > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of >> > gods or goddesses >> >> Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote >> that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? >> >> Or did he say something a little different? >> >> (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions >> of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess >> Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's >> anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said >> before more than once, but we might as well go over it >> again.) >> >> Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal >> power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us >> happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal >> power"? >> >> > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result >> > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low >> > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, >> > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if >> > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, >> > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he >> > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash >> >> Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? >> >> > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't >> > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. >> >> Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address >> the case emptybill made. You won't even address the >> question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that >> of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. >> >> "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I >> could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. >> >> > >> > From: authfriend >> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> > >> > >> > Â >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >> > > >> > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match >> > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or >> > > not, >> > >> > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > Look MJ - you need to do better than this pathetic, retarded retort of > yours and if its not obvious to you - unless you are a woman or my friend - > my attention is a curse and worse for someone stunted, paranoid and/or > delusional like you. > > So go again or learn from Barry and/or Share on how to avoid my attention. > > Anyway it's confirmed - Mark and you are pals then huh? LOL - a great > pairing BTW - I'm not complaining. > May be you are Mark yourself - now that would make lot of sense. He was into this healing/channeling delusional bullshit and would explain your childish stubbornness in your mention of the skin boy for every argument. You are probably screaming in your head every time your write about the skin boy - it's me, it's me goddammit Nice, harmless guy - but totally stunted, tortured soul. OMG get some therapy, get some healing, go on some medication dude. > > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson > wrote: > > > > Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan > Ram Ravi > > > -- > *From:* Ravi Chivukula > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out > Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin > with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark > Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding > very paranoid at this point. > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: > > ** > > You already answered your own question: > > For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > -- > *From:* authfriend > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the > > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is > > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than > > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of > > gods or goddesses > > Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote > that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? > > Or did he say something a little different? > > (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions > of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess > Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's > anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said > before more than once, but we might as well go over it > again.) > > Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal > power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us > happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal > power"? > > > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result > > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low > > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, > > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if > > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > > > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't > > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. > > Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address > the case emptybill made. You won't even address the > question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that > of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. > > "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I > could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > > > > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > > not, > > > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > practice. > > > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anythin
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: NYC Bans 2-Liter Bottles Of Soda With Pizza Delivery
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
I've had tinnitus since 2007. It comes and goes and not any result of loud music, etc. In fact my hearing seems to be as good as ever (tested above average while playing in a rock band). But I had never heard of pineapple as a folk cure for tinnitus until I saw it on that homeveda site. So I went to the store and bought a container of sliced pineapple since a whole one is a bit much and then the mess of slicing it up. Well, it worked! BTW, how many of you have big ears? I've been noticing more recent generations seem to have smaller ears. On 02/24/2013 05:09 AM, Share Long wrote: > thanks Bhairitu, this came at just the right time. I had purchased a > homeopathic remedy for dizzyness but am holding off taking it while I'm > taking other stuff to strengthen the immune system and deal with a chest > tickle. So it's great to have a sound. I've already tried it a few times. > I think it helped. The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than > when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed > amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and > even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. Also my > ailment, whatever it is, seems to be moving around. A friend suggested osha > root for the chest tingle. It cured her laryngitis overnight! I could > definitely do with some increased blood flow to the brain (-: > > > > > > From: Bhairitu > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru > > > > Though dizziness can be due to different reasons, for me often any dizzy > spell was often relieved by practicing a kapha reducing mantra such as > "hoong". As you know the three doshas have their centers in different > areas of the body. Vata in the groin area, pitta in the stomach and > kapha in the head. Being somewhat balanced I observed that vata > reducing mantras tended to send energy (and thus blood flow) downward > (hence grounding). Kapha reducing mantras sent energy (and blood flow) > upward to the head. My observation was that my dizziness was due to > some reduced blood flow to the brain. > > On 02/23/2013 11:07 AM, Share Long wrote: >> Yeah, thank you, very useful. I looked up dizzyness and learned a whole >> bunch of natural ways to deal with it. Will definitely visit again. And >> pass it along to friends. >> >> >> >> >> >>From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru >> >> >> >> You might enjoy this web site that has a lot of videos and info for >> simple ayurvedic home remedies. >> >> http://www.homeveda.com/ >> >> On 02/21/2013 02:42 PM, Share Long wrote: >>> Well I eat a lot of cold food so I can't claim to follow a vata pacifying >>> diet. I think they emphasize it here because the US lifestyle is so vata >>> vitiating. Of course not so much in slow paced Fairfield. >>> >>> >>> I'd say I'm definitely a mixed type. I'm doing very well avoiding high >>> carb foods like pasta, rice, bread, also dairy. And I don't eat as much >>> fish as I'd like to. Basically that means a lot of legumes. Also not vata >>> pacifying! >>> >>> Noozguru wrote: Since we're all yogis a collapse shouldn't matter much to >>> us. We can >>> live with only a bedroll and toothbrush, right? :-D >>> >>> Me: maybe you yogis can, but as a yogini, I like a little comfort (-: >>> >>> Thank you for the info about East Indian style jyotish chart which I >>> googled and found. Also for knowledge of Maran siddhis which I had not >>> known about. Always a good day when I learn something new. >>> >>> Snow began just as they predicted around 2 pm Central. A steady fall, the >>> kind that accumulates stealthily. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net> >>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM >>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL >>> >>> >>> >>> Sometimes I think that MA emphasized vata imbalances so much that people >>> may have way over treated for it. I get kapha quite fast using vata >>> balancing herbs and diet. That's why I like the metabolic or nutritional >>> typing methods as they classify one as being a carbohydrate type, >>> protein type or mixed type. Also this can change just trying to adjust >>> a little for some people. >>> >>> On 02/20/2013 12:15 PM, Share Long wrote: Xeno, I bet you can appreciate this: last week my best friend and I were laughing our heads off because we both thought we were having heart attacks. On the same day! >> > >
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Feinstein To Rig Gun Control Hearings
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[FairfieldLife] Who cares about the Oscars?
Believe it or not being a film buff I really don't care about awards shows so won't bother with the Oscars and haven't in a long time. Actually the favored best picture, "Argo", I have seen. It was probably one of the last movies I've gone out to see. BTW, some of the movies nominated will be available this coming month to rent. This week I see "The Master" is available for rent. Hollywood doesn't care much about art anymore just money. And they aren't even good at the latter these days.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 25-Feb-13 00:15:06 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 02/23/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 03/02/13 00:00:00 203 messages as of (UTC) 02/24/13 23:22:48 37 authfriend 23 Michael Jackson 15 Emily Reyn 14 Ann 13 nablusoss1008 12 turquoiseb 12 doctordumbass 12 Share Long 11 salyavin808 10 seventhray27 9 card 6 Ravi Chivukula 6 Buck 4 obbajeeba 4 navashok 3 Bhairitu 2 raunchydog 2 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 2 John 2 Carol 1 seekliberation 1 emptybill 1 Mike Dixon 1 Alex Stanley Posters: 24 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > > > out before the cynics get find it. > > > > > > It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to > > > comment *after* the cynics. > > > > Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at > > the top of the list. > > Well, but then as you read the comments, your last > impression is of the positive ones rather than the > negative ones. > > But if there are a lot of comments, you're right, because > folks would be unlikely to read all of them and might not > even *get* to the positive ones. > > Maybe half the team should post right away, and the other > half after the cynics are done? > > > Perhaps the NYT list will have some more > > positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? > > How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. Poor MJ. If the TMO decides to sue him for lies and slander he will loose his trailer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all > > that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as > > smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM > > and endorses it? > > How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still > being idiotic enough to believe that something is > good because someone famous does it? This is odd; Barry read "smart and successful and healthy" and thought it said "famous."
[FairfieldLife] Cults claiming persecution are not new
Nor, seemingly, is the fact that it isn't true, just something they say to make cult members seem more important: http://www.salon.com/2013/02/24/the_myth_of_persecution_early_christians_werent_persecuted/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all > that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as > smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM > and endorses it? How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still being idiotic enough to believe that something is good because someone famous does it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all > that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart > and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses > it? Oz has a large and enthusiastic following, but he's come in for some very serious criticism lately for touting unproven therapies. I wouldn't use him as a poster boy for TM. > I'm thinking that for famous people like Lynch and Paul > McCartney, Howard Stern and Seinfeld, etc. they're just > grateful to have found a technique that enables them to > not only survive but thrive in the very demanding > entertainment field.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Ahhh ha ha ha. Well, not and admit it anyway. > > From: authfriend >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:04 PM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: >> >> Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past. > Smiley >> face. > >Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means >I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-: > > >> > >> > From: authfriend >> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM >> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily >> > >> > >> > >> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: >> >> >> >> Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really "hated >> >> to say it," I wouldn't have said it. Smile. >> > >> >I'm wrong again. "Figure of speech" would have been my >> >second wild guess, though. ;-) >> > >> >> > From: Share Long >> >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com> >> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM >> >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: Emily Reyn >> >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com> >> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM >> >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving >> >> >Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Michael Jackson >> >> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com> >> >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM >> >> >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on >> >> >>Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post >> >> >>there are. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: authfriend >> >> >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >> >> >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match >> >> >>> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or >> >> >>> not, >> >> >> >> >> >>What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is >> >> >>Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the >> >> >>case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional >> >> >>practice. >> >> >> >> >> >>> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory >> >> >>> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest >> >> >>> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. >> >> >> >> >> >>Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't >> >> >>work (HTTP 404). >> >> >> >> >> >>> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the >> >> >>> Himalayas'. >> >> >> >> >> >>And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: >> >> >> >> >> >>"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the >> >> >>mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', >> >> >>flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can >> >> >>do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there >> >> >>are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of >> >> >>producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial >> >> >>to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not >> >> >>select any word at random. For our practice we select only the >> >> >>suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >> >> >>grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >> >> >>life." >> >> >> >> >> >>Right? >> >> >> >> >> >>> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a >> >> >>> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
Just for the record, as a comment. Dr. Oz bugs the crap out of me. From the beginning, I've never made it through a single show of his. > > From: Share Long >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:10 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael > > > >Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all that you believe >about TM with the fact that someone as smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it? I'm thinking that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field. > > >PS to Emily, thanks for your reply smile. > > > > > > From: salyavin808 >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:40 PM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: >> > > >> > How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. >> > >> > >> >> From NYTimes page: >> Jack Forem Boise, Idaho >> "I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the >> 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the >> process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, >> peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and >> helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's >> foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have >> practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I >> must say I was overwhelmed – and I do not use that word lightly – by the >> extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly >> improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the >> awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in >> war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are >> thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some >> misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position." >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&; > >But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work >or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after >working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed. > >But their story was somehow neglected from his research? > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: (snip) > > From NYTimes page: > > Jack Forem Boise, Idaho > > "I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the > > 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the > > process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, > > peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and > > helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's > > foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have > > practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I > > must say I was overwhelmed and I do not use that word lightly by the > > extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly > > improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the > > awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in > > war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are > > thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some > > misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good > > thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to > > investigate more deeply and re-think their position." > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&; > > But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't > work or who got fed up with the way the organisation > operated after working there for years and thus can't really > be said to be misinformed. Well, if you look at the comments on the Lynch article, most of the negative ones are not from former TMers (or current TMers, for that matter). Among TM critics generally, a significant number have never done TM. They object to the price of instruction, or assume all gurus are frauds, or all Eastern spiritual groups are cults or (among fundamentalists) tools of Satan, or are scornful of the TM-Sidhis and particularly Yogic Flying, or the TM research, etc., etc. And even former TMers can be misinformed on some topics. > But their story was somehow neglected from his research? He seems to have been researching the research on TM's benefits, not TM's public image.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it? I'm thinking that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field. PS to Emily, thanks for your reply smile. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. > > > > > > From NYTimes page: > Jack Forem Boise, Idaho > "I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. > I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of > sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed > scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs > such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me > engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since > 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was > overwhelmed – and I do not use that word lightly – by the extent and depth of > the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better > educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of > consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in > calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly > extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&; But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed. But their story was somehow neglected from his research?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past. > Smiley > face. Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-: > > > > From: authfriend > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > > > > >Â > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > >> > >> Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really "hated > >> to say it," I wouldn't have said it. Smile. > > > >I'm wrong again. "Figure of speech" would have been my > >second wild guess, though. ;-) > > > >> > From: Share Long > >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM > >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > >> > > >> > > >> >ÃÂ > >> >Emily, what is it you hate to say?ÃÂ And why? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: Emily Reyn > >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > >> > > >> > > >> >ÃÂ > >> >I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi > >> >and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. ÃÂ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> From: Michael Jackson > >> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM > >> >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>ÃÂ > >> >>Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on > >> >>Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there > >> >>are. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> From: authfriend > >> >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > >> >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>ÃÂ > >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > >> >>> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > >> >>> not, > >> >> > >> >>What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > >> >>Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > >> >>case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > >> >>practice. > >> >> > >> >>> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > >> >>> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > >> >>> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > >> >> > >> >>Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > >> >>work (HTTP 404). > >> >> > >> >>> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > >> >>> Himalayas'. > >> >> > >> >>And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > >> >> > >> >>"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > >> >>mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > >> >>flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > >> >>do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > >> >>are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > >> >>producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > >> >>to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > >> >>select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > >> >>suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > >> >>grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > >> >>life." > >> >> > >> >>Right? > >> >> > >> >>> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > >> >>> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > >> >>> > >> >>> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Look MJ - you need to do better than this pathetic, retarded retort of yours and if its not obvious to you - unless you are a woman or my friend - my attention is a curse and worse for someone stunted, paranoid and/or delusional like you. So go again or learn from Barry and/or Share on how to avoid my attention. Anyway it's confirmed - Mark and you are pals then huh? LOL - a great pairing BTW - I'm not complaining. On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan Ram > Ravi > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out > Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin > with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark > Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very > paranoid at this point. > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: > > You already answered your own question: > > For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the > > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is > > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than > > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of > > gods or goddesses > > Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote > that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? > > Or did he say something a little different? > > (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions > of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess > Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's > anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said > before more than once, but we might as well go over it > again.) > > Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal > power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us > happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal > power"? > > > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result > > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low > > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, > > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if > > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > > > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't > > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. > > Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address > the case emptybill made. You won't even address the > question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that > of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. > > "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I > could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > > > > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > > not, > > > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > practice. > > > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > > work (HTTP 404). > > > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > > Himalayas'. > > > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > > producing vibrations whose effects are found to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Music
I'm simply offering the raw material - I have lots of it unfrozen too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Very cool! I actually have this machine in my kitchen that manufactures > > proto-ice instruments, 24x7. We call them ice "cubes". I sent an email to > > the guy in the video offering to sell him mine at a fair price - Haven't > > heard back yet... > > I'd like to see you produce something outstanding with them, other than iced > tea. How about an ice cube sculpture with some coloured light generated by > prismatic light? Then compose a soundtrack to go with. Please, please > incorporate some aspect of the now famous duck walk too - that is still one > of my favourite parts of your last video. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > > Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. > > > http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past. Smiley face. > > From: authfriend >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: >> >> Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really "hated >> to say it," I wouldn't have said it. Smile. > >I'm wrong again. "Figure of speech" would have been my >second wild guess, though. ;-) > >> > From: Share Long >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily >> > >> > >> > >> >Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Emily Reyn >> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> > >> > >> > >> >I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi >> >and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> From: Michael Jackson >> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM >> >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on >> >>Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there >> >>are. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: authfriend >> >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >> >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match >> >>> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or >> >>> not, >> >> >> >>What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is >> >>Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the >> >>case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional >> >>practice. >> >> >> >>> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory >> >>> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest >> >>> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. >> >> >> >>Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't >> >>work (HTTP 404). >> >> >> >>> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the >> >>> Himalayas'. >> >> >> >>And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: >> >> >> >>"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the >> >>mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', >> >>flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can >> >>do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there >> >>are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of >> >>producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial >> >>to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not >> >>select any word at random. For our practice we select only the >> >>suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >> >>grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >> >>life." >> >> >> >>Right? >> >> >> >>> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a >> >>> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. >> >>> >> >>> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. > > > > > > From NYTimes page: > Jack Forem Boise, Idaho > "I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. > I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of > sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed > scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs > such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me > engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since > 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was > overwhelmed and I do not use that word lightly by the extent and depth of > the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better > educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of > consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in > calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly > extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find > it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so > many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their > position." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&; But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed. But their story was somehow neglected from his research?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. > > >From NYTimes page: Jack Forem Boise, Idaho "I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was overwhelmed and I do not use that word lightly by the extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position." http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&;
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the > > subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with > > unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. > > Terms utterly alien to MJ. > > > So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love > and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien > baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off > and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but > highly disturbing. OMG, you have me laughing - uncontrollably. Love this synopsis and your timing was perfect. > > But his explanations of how he combines meditation with psycho-sexual > violence have never been very convincing, he probably never expected > to get his orders to go out proselytising and didn't think he'd need > to explain it. Not in a positive way anyway, if he said "I just like > weird, pervy shit" and left it like that, no one would mind I'm sure. > > He did have a good chat up line though. When he met Isabella Rosselini > he said: My God, you're so beautiful you could be Ingrid Bergman's daughter. > > And she replied: I am Ingrid Berman's daughter. > > Blue Velvet was his second best film which is interesting as he > always says the TM experience takes him to greater creative heights > but it seems that his career has been going downhill for a long time. > Some good bits but the first few were classics, the rest like Lost Highway, > Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire are just tired and weird > either for it's own sake or to detract from the fact no one could be bothered > to finish the script. IMO of course. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > WOW! That was like chapter two from the original - always wanted to see the > car in the first one - Great!!! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > I recently listened to the very same song. Â Love this video too. Â Live, > > Wembley, 1982Â > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRILLqV0l58 Great music, great group and some major kundalini animating Mr Byrne there at the beginning, or at least the kind of energy I can relate to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "doctordumbass@" > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:29 AM > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime > > > > > > > > >Â > > >Ooops - wrong URL in previous - corrected below: > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > >> > > >> Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. > > >> before - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: > > >> > > >> Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime > > >> > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3c-22lL_s > > >> > > >> Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before > > >> boogey-boarding in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. > > >> > > >> PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of > > >> course) are from another planet. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Snow Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > The kids had a snow day Friday, no school, plenty of time to shovel the walk > and play in the snow. I heaped up a pile of snow with granddaughter and took > some photos of our snow witch. The green teeth are left over brussel sprouts. > Enjoy. > > https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/SnowDayInFairfieldIowa?authuser=0&feat=directlink Very fun. It's good to see kids doing things outside in the elements, having a wonderful time. These kinds of things are what I remember as a child: snow, snow suits, making things and coming in feeling tuckered out and satisfied. Thanks for sharing those. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Music
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Very cool! I actually have this machine in my kitchen that manufactures > proto-ice instruments, 24x7. We call them ice "cubes". I sent an email to the > guy in the video offering to sell him mine at a fair price - Haven't heard > back yet... I'd like to see you produce something outstanding with them, other than iced tea. How about an ice cube sculpture with some coloured light generated by prismatic light? Then compose a soundtrack to go with. Please, please incorporate some aspect of the now famous duck walk too - that is still one of my favourite parts of your last video. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. > > http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > > negative. > > > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > > out before the cynics get find it. > > > > It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to > > comment *after* the cynics. > > Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at > the top of the list. Well, but then as you read the comments, your last impression is of the positive ones rather than the negative ones. But if there are a lot of comments, you're right, because folks would be unlikely to read all of them and might not even *get* to the positive ones. Maybe half the team should post right away, and the other half after the cynics are done? > Perhaps the NYT list will have some more > positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. (The NYT lets you choose, BTW, whether you want to read from oldest to newest or newest to oldest. The Grauniad should give its readers that choice as well.) poor PR job if it > doesn't. Might offer them my services again. If the price is right. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM > > > > with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > > > > > > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > > > > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and > > > > Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. > > > > > > > > > So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, > > > love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien > > > baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off > > > and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but > > > highly disturbing. > > > > > > Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also > > acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can > > be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't > > become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be > > horror movies. > > > > To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you > > or it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience > > something which you don't. > > You might find it "disturbing" and MJ calls it "trash". Perhaps this says > > something about your ability to perceive. > > Just an idea. > > > Ill wager that if Lynch didn't do TM, you'd think it was trash too. > Not just an idea. Your ideas are rather uninteresting, IMO. As if you are able to value my understanding of art, or any other understanding for that matter. As many others I had no idea he was doing TM before he started the DLF, never saw him in Vlodrop or anywhere else in the Movement. I happened to love his films about 20 years before I knew he was doing TM.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM > > > with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > > > > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > > > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and > > > Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. > > > > > > So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love > > and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien > > baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off > > and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but > > highly disturbing. > > > Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also > acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can > be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't > become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror > movies. > > To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or > it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience > something which you don't. > You might find it "disturbing" and MJ calls it "trash". Perhaps this says > something about your ability to perceive. > Just an idea. > I must say I really enjoyed Mulholland Drive, and thought there were many spiritual clues in it, but none of my friends whom I forced to see it shared my enthusiasm. I saw Eraserhead only on youtube, I found it interesting, but couldn't make so much out of it. Generally I like mysterious and surreal movies. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lynchian 1. lynchian adj. - having the same balance between the macabre and the mundane found in the works of filmmaker David Lynch. a lynchian juxtaposition of perversion with americana. by cygnet74 Sep 29, 2004 share this add a video 2. lynchian Referring to a certain quality of the works of film director David Lynch. You have no fucking clue what's going on, but you know it's genius. Did Dennis Hopper just fucking whip out an oxygen mask right before he started talking to that chick's pussy? What the fuck is happening? This is fucking genius. LYNCHIAN. genius fucked up wtf david lynch blue velvet by imlynchian Sep 2, 2012 share this add a video 3. lynchian 1.Any fan of David Lynch, An odd ball film director who directed such films as, Mulholland drive, Blue velvet, eraser.. etc.. 2.The specific style that David Lynch, which is usually odd or weird, but original. The fishheaded midget running around the oval room backwards while constantly changing color then finally turning into water was really lynchian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia > > and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's > > why it was over closed circuit tv > > Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell > if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing > them via videoconference. I could tell there was something seriously wrong with him during his appearances on the Marshy channel, shaking hands, forgetfulness, repetitive speech and all his fading in and out of conciousness. Probably enough for a doctor to make a preliminary diagnosis or have him brought into hospital. It was certainly enough for me to think he should be propped up in bed with a hot water bottle at the very least, and not waffling on live television. I thought that if they cared about him at all they would make him lie down and rest, it wasn't like he was making sense at that stage. > Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* > suffering from dementia. > > > > From: salyavin808 > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > Â > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > negative. > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > out before the cynics get find it. > > > > It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the > > regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks > > were from people who joined within an hour or so of the > > article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and > > found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of > > modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- > > nically minded people I'd ever met. > > > > So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too > > as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting > > bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on > > the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction > > for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! > > Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what > > did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh > > to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. > > I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have > > given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self > > selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course > > details. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM > > > with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > > > > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > > > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and > > > Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. > > > > > > So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love > > and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien > > baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off > > and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but > > highly disturbing. > > > Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also > acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can > be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't > become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror > movies. > > To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or > it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience > something which you don't. > You might find it "disturbing" and MJ calls it "trash". Perhaps this says > something about your ability to perceive. > Just an idea. Ill wager that if Lynch didn't do TM, you'd think it was trash too. Not just an idea. PS To me, disturbing is good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > negative. > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > out before the cynics get find it. > > It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to > comment *after* the cynics. Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at the top of the list. Perhaps the NYT list will have some more positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? poor PR job if it doesn't. Might offer them my services again. If the price is right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell > if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing > them via videoconference. > > Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* > suffering from dementia. More likely severe confusion brought about by contact with too many disembodied souls.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Thanks for bringing up a traditional use of the mantra as pure sound value. > > I am hardly knowledgeable about the Veda, but it IS all about the > > transformation and manifestation of vibration (sound). > > > > Aside from doing my 9th grade science project on what sound waves at > > various frequencies look like, when iron filings on an aluminum sheet are > > laid atop a speaker, and later, all the TM stuff, that's about as far as it > > goes for me. > > > > Nowadays, its either my tinnitus, or everything sings, or both.:-) > > > > Doc, I really appreciate your writings about enlightenment. Spot on in my > experience too. For a while I was thinking of saving your quips about this > as aphorisms but I ain't got the time to edit that now. > -Buck "Nowadays, its either my tinnitus, or everything sings, or both.:-)" I must say I love that quote too :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the > > subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with > > unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. > > Terms utterly alien to MJ. > > > So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love > and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien > baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off > and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but > highly disturbing. Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror movies. To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience something which you don't. You might find it "disturbing" and MJ calls it "trash". Perhaps this says something about your ability to perceive. Just an idea.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Thanks for bringing up a traditional use of the mantra as pure sound value. I > am hardly knowledgeable about the Veda, but it IS all about the > transformation and manifestation of vibration (sound). > > Aside from doing my 9th grade science project on what sound waves at various > frequencies look like, when iron filings on an aluminum sheet are laid atop a > speaker, and later, all the TM stuff, that's about as far as it goes for me. > > Nowadays, its either my tinnitus, or everything sings, or both.:-) > Doc, I really appreciate your writings about enlightenment. Spot on in my experience too. For a while I was thinking of saving your quips about this as aphorisms but I ain't got the time to edit that now. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. > > They did? I knew about it long ago. I'd have been very > surprised, in any case, if he had appeared in person. > From everything I'd heard, he didn't see more than a > small handful of people personally in his last years > living at Vlodrop, and they were the folks who took > care of his personal needs. Everything else was via > videoconference. This is a well known fact and no secret at all. It seems Sal is rather uninformed as usual :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > > negative. > > > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > > out before the cynics get find it. > > It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to > comment *after* the cynics. > > > > So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too > > as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting > > bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on > > the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction > > for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! > > Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. > > They did? I knew about it long ago. I'd have been very > surprised, in any case, if he had appeared in person. > From everything I'd heard, he didn't see more than a > small handful of people personally in his last years > living at Vlodrop, and they were the folks who took > care of his personal needs. Everything else was via > videoconference. OK, but they kept it quiet from me and I knew someone on the first one and he didn't say: We got personal instruction daily, but only via TV. No one did, and as that is the strangest bit of the whole thing I'm sure someone would have mentioned it? I knew he never came out of his room but assumed he might have granted a meeting to a bunch of devotees who'd coughed up 1000 big ones. There ya go
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy > told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation > of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat > the names of gods or goddesses so they will give us good stuff - either way, > the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to > mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a > goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic > value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid > me cuz I don't believe it. Period. > > > > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > not, > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > practice. > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > work (HTTP 404). > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > Himalayas'. > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > life." > > Right? That is correct. The abbreviated URL failed for some reason, it worked when I tested it before I put it in my post. The PDF file is located under FFL 'Files' in the folder 'Theory Spiritual Development', it is an excerpt of one day's lecture from 1955, plus a handwritten note by MMY at the beginning. Sorry the link I put in failed. > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia > and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's > why it was over closed circuit tv Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing them via videoconference. Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* suffering from dementia. > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > negative. > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > out before the cynics get find it. > > It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the > regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks > were from people who joined within an hour or so of the > article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and > found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of > modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- > nically minded people I'd ever met. > > So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too > as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting > bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on > the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction > for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! > Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what > did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh > to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. > I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have > given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self > selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course > details. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > > negative. > > Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK > if someone gets an article published it goes out on the > gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put > out before the cynics get find it. It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to comment *after* the cynics. > So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too > as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting > bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on > the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction > for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! > Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. They did? I knew about it long ago. I'd have been very surprised, in any case, if he had appeared in person. >From everything I'd heard, he didn't see more than a small handful of people personally in his last years living at Vlodrop, and they were the folks who took care of his personal needs. Everything else was via videoconference.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan Ram Ravi From: Ravi Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very paranoid at this point. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: > >You already answered your own question: > >For our practice we select only the >> suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >> grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >> life." > > > > > > > > From: authfriend >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: >> >> that is a good quote - and it points out something else the >> former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is >> all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than >> being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of >> gods or goddesses > >Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote >that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? > >Or did he say something a little different? > >(Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions >of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess >Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's >anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said >before more than once, but we might as well go over it >again.) > >Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal >power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us >happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal >power"? > >> so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result >> is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low >> to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, >> arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if >> you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, >> the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he >> credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > >Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > >> And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't >> cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. > >Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address >the case emptybill made. You won't even address the >question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that >of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. > >"The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I >could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > >> >> From: authfriend >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> Â >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >> > >> > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match >> > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or >> > not, >> >> What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is >> Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the >> case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional >> practice. >> >> > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory >> > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest >> > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. >> >> Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't >> work (HTTP 404). >> >> > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the >> > Himalayas'. >> >> And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: >> >> "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the >> mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', >> flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can >> do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there >> are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of >> producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial >> to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not >> select any word at random. For our practice we select only the >> suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >> grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >> life." >> >> Right? >> >> > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a >> > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. >> > >> > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >> > >> > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's why it was over closed circuit tv From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks were from people who joined within an hour or so of the article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- nically minded people I'd ever met. So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course details.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the > subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with > unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. > The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. > Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. But his explanations of how he combines meditation with psycho-sexual violence have never been very convincing, he probably never expected to get his orders to go out proselytising and didn't think he'd need to explain it. Not in a positive way anyway, if he said "I just like weird, pervy shit" and left it like that, no one would mind I'm sure. He did have a good chat up line though. When he met Isabella Rosselini he said: My God, you're so beautiful you could be Ingrid Bergman's daughter. And she replied: I am Ingrid Berman's daughter. Blue Velvet was his second best film which is interesting as he always says the TM experience takes him to greater creative heights but it seems that his career has been going downhill for a long time. Some good bits but the first few were classics, the rest like Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire are just tired and weird either for it's own sake or to detract from the fact no one could be bothered to finish the script. IMO of course.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very paranoid at this point. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: > ** > > > You already answered your own question: > > For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > -- > *From:* authfriend > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the > > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is > > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than > > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of > > gods or goddesses > > Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote > that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? > > Or did he say something a little different? > > (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions > of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess > Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's > anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said > before more than once, but we might as well go over it > again.) > > Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal > power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us > happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal > power"? > > > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result > > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low > > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, > > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if > > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > > > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't > > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. > > Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address > the case emptybill made. You won't even address the > question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that > of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. > > "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I > could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > > > > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > > not, > > > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > practice. > > > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > > work (HTTP 404). > > > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > > Himalayas'. > > > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > > Right? > > > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
no surprise there since the TMO alerted all their pretend regular people like Tom Ball and Tammy Harshaw to huurry up and post a bunch of I love TM comments before real people see the article and tell the world what most people think of Marshy and TM From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine > > article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and > > see how many post there are. > > Yes, they put up another batch. There are 39 comments now; > quite a few of the new ones are critical of TM, the TMO, > and/or Lynch himself; a number of others are from > practitioners of other techniques touting meditation-in- > general (some pointing out that TM is not the only > worthwhile technique). > > You seem to think the new comments somehow rebut something > I've said, but I have no idea what it might be. I predicted > that there would be more than the original seven, and that > they would include negative ones. The only thing I was > wrong about was my prediction that they wouldn't publish > yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > > not, > > > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > practice. > > > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > > work (HTTP 404). > > > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > > Himalayas'. > > > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > > Right? > > > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, > but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are > negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks were from people who joined within an hour or so of the article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- nically minded people I'd ever met. So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course details.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Or, maybe I said it that way because I was responding to Michael who has been critical - I was more acknowledging the benefits that seem apparent from the practice itself, separate from the org or guru who spearheaded the movement. I could have said"I will say," that the benefits of TM come across... > > From: Emily Reyn >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:37 AM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > > >Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really "hated to say it," I >wouldn't have said it. Smile. > > > >> >> From: Share Long >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily >> >> >> >>Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Emily Reyn >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> >>I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and >>the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. >> >> >> >>> >>> From: Michael Jackson >>>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >>>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >>> >>> >>> >>>Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja >>>David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: authfriend >>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >>> >>> >>> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, >>> >>>What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is >>>Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the >>>case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional >>>practice. >>> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. >>> >>>Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't >>>work (HTTP 404). >>> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. >>> >>>And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: >>> >>>"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the >>>mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', >>>flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can >>>do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there >>>are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of >>>producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial >>>to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not >>>select any word at random. For our practice we select only the >>>suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >>>grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >>>life." >>> >>>Right? >>> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really "hated > to say it," I wouldn't have said it. Smile. I'm wrong again. "Figure of speech" would have been my second wild guess, though. ;-) > > From: Share Long > >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > > > > > > >Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Emily Reyn > >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > > >I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi > >and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  > > > > > > > >> > >> From: Michael Jackson > >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM > >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > >> > >> > >> > >>Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja > >>David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: authfriend > >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > >> > >> > >> > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > >>> > >>> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > >>> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > >>> not, > >> > >>What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > >>Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > >>case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > >>practice. > >> > >>> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > >>> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > >>> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > >> > >>Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > >>work (HTTP 404). > >> > >>> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > >>> Himalayas'. > >> > >>And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > >> > >>"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > >>mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > >>flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > >>do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > >>are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > >>producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > >>to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > >>select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > >>suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > >>grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > >>life." > >> > >>Right? > >> > >>> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > >>> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > >>> > >>> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Emily, what is it you hate to say? "Leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across." I wonder why that part of her post didn't show up for you. > And why? Just a wild guess: Because the TM critics on FFL are likely to find her observation annoying. I'm sure she'll correct me if I'm wrong. > From: Emily Reyn > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving > Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. Â > > > From: Michael Jackson > >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > >Â > >Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja > >David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > >Â > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > >> > >> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > >> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > >> not, > > > >What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > >Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > >case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > >practice. > > > >> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > >> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > >> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > >Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > >work (HTTP 404). > > > >> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > >> Himalayas'. > > > >And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > > >"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > >mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > >flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > >do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > >are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > >producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > >to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > >select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > >suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > >grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > >life." > > > >Right? > > > >> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > >> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > >> > >> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really "hated to say it," I wouldn't have said it. Smile. > > From: Share Long >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily > > > >Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? > > > > > > > > From: Emily Reyn >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > >I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and >the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. > > > >> >> From: Michael Jackson >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> >>Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja >>David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: authfriend >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back >> >> >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >>> >>> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match >>> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or >>> not, >> >>What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is >>Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the >>case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional >>practice. >> >>> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory >>> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest >>> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. >> >>Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't >>work (HTTP 404). >> >>> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the >>> Himalayas'. >> >>And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: >> >>"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the >>mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', >>flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can >>do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there >>are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of >>producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial >>to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not >>select any word at random. For our practice we select only the >>suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >>grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >>life." >> >>Right? >> >>> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a >>> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. >>> >>> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine > > article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and > > see how many post there are. > > Yes, they put up another batch. There are 39 comments now; > quite a few of the new ones are critical of TM, the TMO, > and/or Lynch himself; a number of others are from > practitioners of other techniques touting meditation-in- > general (some pointing out that TM is not the only > worthwhile technique). > > You seem to think the new comments somehow rebut something > I've said, but I have no idea what it might be. I predicted > that there would be more than the original seven, and that > they would include negative ones. The only thing I was > wrong about was my prediction that they wouldn't publish > yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > > not, > > > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > practice. > > > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > > work (HTTP 404). > > > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > > Himalayas'. > > > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > > Right? > > > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? From: Emily Reyn To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. > > From: Michael Jackson >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > >Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja >David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. > > > > > > > > From: authfriend >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >> >> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match >> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or >> not, > >What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is >Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the >case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional >practice. > >> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory >> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest >> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > >Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't >work (HTTP 404). > >> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the >> Himalayas'. > >And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > >"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the >mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', >flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can >do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there >are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of >producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial >to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not >select any word at random. For our practice we select only the >suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >life." > >Right? > >> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a >> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. >> >> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >> > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine > article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and > see how many post there are. Yes, they put up another batch. There are 39 comments now; quite a few of the new ones are critical of TM, the TMO, and/or Lynch himself; a number of others are from practitioners of other techniques touting meditation-in- general (some pointing out that TM is not the only worthwhile technique). You seem to think the new comments somehow rebut something I've said, but I have no idea what it might be. I predicted that there would be more than the original seven, and that they would include negative ones. The only thing I was wrong about was my prediction that they wouldn't publish yours. > > > > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > not, > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > practice. > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > work (HTTP 404). > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > Himalayas'. > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > life." > > Right? > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. > > From: Michael Jackson >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > >Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja >David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. > > > > > > > > From: authfriend >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >> >> While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match >> between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or >> not, > >What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is >Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the >case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional >practice. > >> the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory >> of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest >> document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > >Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't >work (HTTP 404). > >> This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the >> Himalayas'. > >And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > >"...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the >mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', >flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can >do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there >are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of >producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial >to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not >select any word at random. For our practice we select only the >suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the >grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of >life." > >Right? > >> Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a >> copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. >> >> http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >> > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
Dr. Dumbass, did you respond to this? I missed it. > > From: Carol >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:18 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey DocRegarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug >experiences - > > > >Hey Doc, > >Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I forget >the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I couldn't respond >at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this past Monday, 2/18, and >wasn't able to really type and now can't remember where you commented. Sorry >bout that.) > >Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience when >under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's internal >state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, please correct me.) > >In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the drug/herb >jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always been horrid >hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 years old and can >atest to its horrors.) > >As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my >experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made me >horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. > >I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or >whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad effects >(bad trips) or good effects (good trips). > >I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad trip comes >from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used helps determine if >what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not pleasurable. (Hope that >makes sense.) > >Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was probably a >blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I turned to TM by >the way. Ha. > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > not, What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life." Right? > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
WOW! That was like chapter two from the original - always wanted to see the car in the first one - Great!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > I recently listened to the very same song. Â Love this video too. Â Live, > Wembley, 1982Â > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRILLqV0l58 > > > > > > > > From: "doctordumbass@..." > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:29 AM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime > > > > > >Â > >Ooops - wrong URL in previous - corrected below: > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > >> > >> Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. > >> before - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: > >> > >> Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3c-22lL_s > >> > >> Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before boogey-boarding > >> in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. > >> > >> PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of > >> course) are from another planet. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Snow Day
Thank you raunchy; this warms my heart. These events are internalized in children's memories. We lived in wisconsin for a year before I was four, but I still remember the feeling of sledding down the hill in the backyard with my dad holding on to me. > > From: raunchydog >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:26 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Snow Day > > > >The kids had a snow day Friday, no school, plenty of time to shovel the walk >and play in the snow. I heaped up a pile of snow with granddaughter and took >some photos of our snow witch. The green teeth are left over brussel sprouts. >Enjoy. > >https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/SnowDayInFairfieldIowa?authuser=0&feat=directlink > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > You already answered your own question: > > For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Right. My question was, "Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different?" The answer is that he said something a little different: "mantras of personal gods," not "names of personal gods." This is one of the things that emptybill pointed out. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the > > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is > > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than > > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of > > gods or goddesses > > Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote > that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? > > Or did he say something a little different? > > (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions > of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess > Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's > anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said > before more than once, but we might as well go over it > again.) > > Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal > power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us > happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal > power"? > > > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result > > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low > > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, > > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if > > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > > > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't > > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. > > Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address > the case emptybill made. You won't even address the > question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that > of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. > > "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I > could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > > > > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > ÃÂ > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > > not, > > > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > practice. > > > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > > work (HTTP 404). > > > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > > Himalayas'. > > > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > > Right? > > > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Snow Day
The kids had a snow day Friday, no school, plenty of time to shovel the walk and play in the snow. I heaped up a pile of snow with granddaughter and took some photos of our snow witch. The green teeth are left over brussel sprouts. Enjoy. https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/SnowDayInFairfieldIowa?authuser=0&feat=directlink
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Music
Very cool! I actually have this machine in my kitchen that manufactures proto-ice instruments, 24x7. We call them ice "cubes". I sent an email to the guy in the video offering to sell him mine at a fair price - Haven't heard back yet... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. > http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
Ah, "selfless" does sound like a compatible quality. I think Xeno was exhibiting "acceptance of whatever." Smile. > > From: Ann >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:48 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: >> >> Barry?  Barry who? > >Look for the guy with the big callous on his right index finger. All that >button pushing takes its toll. > >> Dear Ann, I'll have you know, I find you far more interesting and I've been >>laughing my ass off at you.  I particularly enjoy your exchanges with Share. >> I can see that the two of you are moving closer and closer to >>"compatibility." > >I do believe you may be correct here, dear Em, especially if by 'compatibl'e >you mean more tolerant and willing to let a lot of things slide by unremarked >upon. Although, now that Share and I both know how much Barry enjoys following >our posts we may just have to keep pumping out the "crap", for his sake you >understand. Share and I are selfless like that. > >> The very nice "thank you for your reply" sounds like you are making good >>progress.  You are a hard case and a tough nut to crack, Ann, but someone is >>finally here to put you in your place and teach you a few manners. > >It's been tried before, with limited success. Hence, the lash marks. > >>  You've been far too independent in your thought process; your sense of >> humor is much too irreverent.  Your insights lack both content and clarity >> and your manners, my dear, your manners. > >My mother, in all truthfulness, would be devastated to hear it (about the >manners). > >> From where I sit, it is clear that the best descriptors around for your >>behavior include "gratuitous," "nasty", and overall -  "negative."  Ann, >>there is a smidgen of hope for you, thanks be to God, but you must stop >>taking things so personally.  I'm not sure who here knows how to do that. > >Maybe Xeno could help me. Anyone who can listen to a potential terminal >diagnosis and not take it personally can surely help me with my problems. > >> I think maybe Bob did, but I hear he is off traipsing through the Himalayas >>these days.  I'm rootin' for you Ann, I really am.  I hope you find the >>perfect prom dress that sets of your beautiful blue eyes with the perfect >>shade of lipstick to match and that you dance the night away in wild abandon. > >I would love to, I really would Emily but I am having a dickens of a time >finding abalone shoes to match the dress. > > Love, Emily >> >> >> >> > >> > From: Ann >> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> >Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:08 PM >> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: >> >> >> >> Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you >> >> find this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a "wee dram" of >> >> compatibility exists between the two of you?   >> > >> >A word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry >> >regards as high school "crap" and if you aren't careful you may not be able >> >to blow your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take >> >the top of your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose >> >and brains come out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean >> >right. You'll have to ask him what he said - I've got to go and figure out >> >what I'm going to wear to the prom. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > From: Ravi Chivukula >> >> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> >> >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM >> >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >"And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any >> >> >coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary" >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He >> >> >represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on >> >> >razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable >> >> >and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me >> >> >how he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety >> >> >in numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is >> >> >stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and >> >> >will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never. >> >> > >> >> >On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: >> >> > >> >> >Dear Share, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very >> >> >>prejudiced and hold
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > life." From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of > gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal power"? > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > not, > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > practice. > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > work (HTTP 404). > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > Himalayas'. > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > life." > > Right? > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of > gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal power"? > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > not, > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > practice. > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > work (HTTP 404). > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > Himalayas'. > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > life." > > Right? > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Barry? Â Barry who? Look for the guy with the big callous on his right index finger. All that button pushing takes its toll. >Â Dear Ann, I'll have you know, I find you far more interesting and I've been >laughing my ass off at you. Â I particularly enjoy your exchanges with Share. >Â I can see that the two of you are moving closer and closer to >"compatibility." I do believe you may be correct here, dear Em, especially if by 'compatibl'e you mean more tolerant and willing to let a lot of things slide by unremarked upon. Although, now that Share and I both know how much Barry enjoys following our posts we may just have to keep pumping out the "crap", for his sake you understand. Share and I are selfless like that. >Â The very nice "thank you for your reply" sounds like you are making good >progress. Â You are a hard case and a tough nut to crack, Ann, but someone is >finally here to put you in your place and teach you a few manners. It's been tried before, with limited success. Hence, the lash marks. > Â You've been far too independent in your thought process; your sense of > humor is much too irreverent. Â Your insights lack both content and clarity > and your manners, my dear, your manners. My mother, in all truthfulness, would be devastated to hear it (about the manners). >Â From where I sit, it is clear that the best descriptors around for your >behavior include "gratuitous," "nasty", and overall - Â "negative." Â Ann, >there is a smidgen of hope for you, thanks be to God, but you must stop >taking things so personally. Â I'm not sure who here knows how to do that. Maybe Xeno could help me. Anyone who can listen to a potential terminal diagnosis and not take it personally can surely help me with my problems. >Â I think maybe Bob did, but I hear he is off traipsing through the Himalayas >these days. Â I'm rootin' for you Ann, I really am. Â I hope you find the >perfect prom dress that sets of your beautiful blue eyes with the perfect >shade of lipstick to match and that you dance the night away in wild abandon. I would love to, I really would Emily but I am having a dickens of a time finding abalone shoes to match the dress. Â Love, Emily > > > > > > > From: Ann > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:08 PM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi > > > > > >Â > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > >> > >> Ravi, you just made my evening. ÃÂ So funny, you are. ÃÂ Share, did you > >> find this funny? ÃÂ Is there hope that the equivalent of a "wee dram" of > >> compatibility exists between the two of you? ÃÂ ÃÂ > > > >A word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry > >regards as high school "crap" and if you aren't careful you may not be able > >to blow your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take > >the top of your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose > >and brains come out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean > >right. You'll have to ask him what he said - I've got to go and figure out > >what I'm going to wear to the prom. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > From: Ravi Chivukula > >> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi > >> > > >> > > >> >ÃÂ > >> >"And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any > >> >coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary" > >> > > >> > > >> >Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He > >> >represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on > >> >razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable > >> >and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how > >> >he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in > >> >numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is > >> >stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and > >> >will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never. > >> > > >> >On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > >> > > >> >Dear Share, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very > >> >>prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of > >> >>snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my > >> >>aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, > >> >>reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil > >> >>Rakshasaas. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for > >> >>the ascended masters
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
I recently listened to the very same song. Love this video too. Live, Wembley, 1982 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRILLqV0l58 > > From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:29 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime > > > >Ooops - wrong URL in previous - corrected below: > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: >> >> Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. before >> - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: >> >> Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3c-22lL_s >> >> Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before boogey-boarding >> in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. >> >> PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of course) >> are from another planet. >> > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) > The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when > it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed > amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. BTW, I'll bet a buck CDC also says you should always take the full amount of antibiotic prescribed, even if you're feeling better. That's because you want to kill off *all* the bacteria. If you only kill some of them, it can mean that the ones that survive are more resistant to the antibiotic, and when they revive the infection, you may have to take a stronger antibiotic, or more of it, or for a longer period, to get rid of the resistant ones too.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > not, What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life." Right? > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. *Even* CDC? Wow. I guess it must really be true, then, huh? I mean, that's what just about every MD in world says-- you know, because antibiotics kill bacteria and not viruses. But all those MDs could be wrong, so we can never really be sure unless CDC agrees, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > not, What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life." Right? > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Music
beyond cool (-: From: Ann To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ice Music Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Ice Music
Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back barnacles
Okay, Ann's sense of humor,which was always good has now been upgraded to top tier. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ > wrote: > > > > I read them all too. But it took longer than the 2 minutes it > took Judy. And I skimmed! Very bad! As my karmic > retribution I missed the barnacle comment. I LOVE barnacle > comments. I think we need more barnacle comments on FFL. Well > technically use of the word more is not completely accurate. I mean > we need more DIRECT barnacle comments not simply all this referring to > another source. We need our very own FFL barnacle comments. > Like: turq! very creative to give Ann a barnacle as a prom > corsage. But I'm not 100% sure it will match her dress. > I do believe you could be right, it will certainly match my hat. > > > > > > > > oy, comedian still in training, have mercy, don't throw barnacles, > thank you > > > > > > > > > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:24 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > >  > > Talk about devotion. To which cause, I don't know. But > reading all the comments? Is barnacle a derogatory word? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ > wrote: > > > > > > and if you have read all of the comments, you will see the TM people > are bitching about the article not being positive enough! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend authfriend@ > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:32 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > > > > à> > > Hah! Was I ever wrong! > > > > > > They just posted another eight comments, seven of which > > > were positive, and the eighth of which was...Michael's. > > > > > > (Don Sosin made one too, BTW--positive, obviously.) > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-me\ \ > ditation.html#commentsContainer > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/atqaxgx > > > > > > --- In > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So since they aren't posting my comment - here it is: > > > > > > > > FWIW, no new comments have been posted since the seven > > > > positive ones that were up last night. I'd guess that > > > > there will be another batch up soon (checking the > > > > comments for this piece is most likely not that high on > > > > the Times's priority list). > > > > > > > > I further predict that when the new comments go up, > > > > there will be a number of negative ones, but they will > > > > not include Michael's. > > > > > > > > Michael, just for the heck of it, I've edited your > > > > comment to reflect what I think they would be a lot > > > > more likely to publish: > > > > > > > > "I began TM in 1974 and > > enjoyed it enough to become a real TM > > > > cheerleader. But as the years went by, I left the TM Movement > > > > due to what I perceived as the huge disconnect between the > > > > promises of TM and what it actually delivered. > > > > > > > > "Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort > > > > to restore TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. TM is not a > > > > simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It > > > > is in fact a Hindu devotional practice of chanting (silently) > > > > the names of Hindu goddesses. And that would be all right as > > > > long as the organization was upfront about it." > > > > > > > > In my observation, the Times likes its Comments sections to > > > > reflect many different points of view, but it avoids > > > > comments that are likely to start fights or, goodness knows, > > > > invite legal problems. Your comment as > > submitted had a good > > > > chance of doing both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I began TM in 1974 and enjoyed it enough to become a real TM > fanatic and cheerleader. As the years went by, I left the TM Movement > due to the huge disconnect between the promises of TM and what it > actually delivered, especially the awful, arrogant deceitful behavior of > even the low to mid level managers of the TM organization, much less the > leaders of the Movement. > > > > > > > > > Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort to > sanitize the TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. 1976 was the year their > Maharishi announced the TM Sidhi program to the world. The TM Movement > can honestly be characterized as a decades long flow of dishonesty and > deceit, taking money under false pretenses and very unpleasant behavior > on the part of those who administrate the Movement. > > > > > > > > > I had the pleasure > > of speaking at some length with someone who spent years as > Maharishi's personal secretary and for all
