[FairfieldLife] Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-yo\ u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nagel for Salyavin
--- authfriend authfriend@... wrote: The Core of `Mind and Cosmos'By THOMAS NAGEL http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/author/thomas-nagel/ This is a brief statement of positions defended more fully in my book Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False, which was published by Oxford University Press last year. Since then the book has attracted a good deal of critical attention, which is not surprising, given the entrenchment of the world view that it attacks. It seemed useful to offer a short summary of the central argument. Read more:http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-an\ d-cosmos/ http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-and-co\ smos/ http://www.ted.com/talks/martin_hanczyc_the_line_between_life_and_not_life.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=oil-droplets-mimic-early-life Darwin's concept is naturalist and not materialist. Maintain that distinction. 'Natural Selection' itself is a form of intelligence. An abstract, rudimentary, mathematical intelligence. Even if Nature has intelligence, (as Maharishi sez), It dosen't contradict Darwin in any way. If Maharishi's infinite self-organising power of nature is a form of intelligence, it only means the earliest life self assembled itself. Again, there is nothing here that contradicts Darwin. There is still no personal god. Subjective first person ontology is not always reliable or accurate. It has to be corroborated with objective scientific data.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nagel for Salyavin
--- Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Regarding Nagel, having just read the NYTimes article. snip We are on the threshold of a robotics revolution. Can a robot be conscious? --- authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Is there something it is like to be a robot? Or would a robot that could perfectly mimic a human being (or any other creature) be a zombie, lacking inner first-person experience? It seems to me Nagel is trying to find an alternative to a theological argument without having to admit that it is simply a theological argument. --- authfriend authfriend@... wrote: It's not a theological argument. It's an alternative he says a believer might accept, but as far as he's concerned it can be understood as a naturalistic, but non-materialist, alternative. The problem with any metaphysical argument is it is simply virtual, there is no way to *demonstrate* its truth. A metaphysical argument remains out of the range of direct experience and so remains always a mere belief however vigorously held. --- authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Same with mathematics. Scientific arguments are demonstrable within our experience, but inductive arguments are always logically fallacious, --- authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Explain that, please. I don't believe that's the case. Nagel's thesis, FWIW, is that it is impossible *in principle* for the physical sciences to account for subjective, first- person experience--what it is like to be a particular human being, for example--and he makes that argument in the book (albeit not in his NYTimes article). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsH7RK1S2E http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-09/mind-reading-tech-reconstructs-videos-brain-images https://sites.google.com/site/gallantlabucb/publications/nishimoto-et-al-2011 Science is fast approaching that capability. We will be able to do it is another 15 years time. Nature doesn't think and design. Nature is more like an Umpire in a game. It throws a wide range of mutations into the envionment and lets the environment decide which survives. The process is wasteful, but works. This is why the casuality rate is so high in evolution. The extinction rate is so high that many evolutioary biologists state that extinction is a natural process of evolution. Only when species become extinct, new species evolve to fill in those ecological niches. 'Golden mean', 'fibonacci sequence', 'balance between order and chaos', 'symmetry', are all essentially mathematical abstracts and still doesn't contradict Darwin in any way. Nature functions more like an Umpire and not as a mother or dictator or santa claus etc.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Again, iranitea, you have the *wrong post* in mind. So you declare - wrongly. No, dear, I'm correcting *you*. You are way, way off track, into the wild blue yonder. As we are talking of Robins reaction on the 27 Dec, *I* was talking of his courteous reply to your challenge to his integrity that he made on December 19, and your positive response on December 20. He made that courteous response *even though he knew you were prejudiced against him* because of your hostile (yes, it was hostile) post to him of December 16. And he *saw through* your seemingly friendly response on December 20, as you went on to demonstrate in your exchange with Barry a few days later when you started talking about his mental health. Not a thing mysterious about it. Robin to Judy, December 19, 2011 (#299118): I am grateful to you for having understood me so well in my ambivalent attitude towards Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. It is a real consolation to know that someone at least on FFL has grasped the contradiction of my experience of MMY as accurately as you have. This means a lot to me. So that, when I came to this part of your post, I rejoiced in the fact that there was a human being who followed everything I have written about Maharishi and was therefore able to explain to zarzari_786 the paradox which had so perturbed and discomfited him. The paradox which, evidently, he felt constituted proof of my insincerity. So what? There is no seeing through either. I'm pointing out that he was very well aware of your hostility (proof of my insincerity). My post on the 16 is what he was referring to, Right, and what you had been saying to me in our exchange. and he obviously felt concerned about - big deal. It's simply a defense to something I had raised. I have no idea what that means. My later respectful, and grateful post of the 20th did explicitly not take any of that back, as you seem to indicate. Never suggested it did. I'm referring to the false friendliness and respect that was designed to disarm him. It didn't work. He knew it was a crock. First of all - it wasn't like this. I was genuine in my answer, I didn't take anything back, but I felt the respect I expressed. Second, where did he show this? In which post? How? You didn't answer. So I guess you are referring to the post Robin made on the 27 December, AFTER my borderline post, and AFTER you became all enraged. There is NO indication that Robin KNEW IT ALL ALONG or was right LOOKING THROUGH ME. You had no intention of engaging with him; you were just going to pronounce judgment on his mental health, as you did a few days later in your discussion with Barry. On the 20 Dec 2011, what I said was genuinely felt at the time. Neither was there any direct contradiction to anything I said before in my post on the 16th. He just narrated his story, and I was impressed by his skill in narration, but as you admit yourself, it did in no way address the more philosophical questions, or give an answer to the ontological problem, his story, his version what his enlightenment was about. Indeed that was never satisfyingly addressed. You are wrong, in your mind-reading about my motivation as well. When I expressed, with intentionally few words, respect for his experience, I had no plan about my post a few days later, on the 26. This was a spontaneous reaction, partly by your over-devotional attitude (in another thread), partly simply by my intention NOT to hide anything, to be completely open, quite the opposite of what you say. Judy, you are soo often so wrong in the way you judge people, a special situation, their supposed intentions etc. I have basically no real interest in Robin. Why I mention it, is that so much things are going on here between US, which is based on a wrong calculation on your side. Why don't you admit, when you were wrong? Why don't you admit that you were wrong, that Robin could 'look through me', neither can you? If you make a mistake, in the timeline or in your judgment, why can't you just say: I'm sorry, I was wrong? You were also wrong when you said, as you did, that I called Robin of having NPD, that was Barry, not me, and at the same time, you called me a liar? And then you get all upset, when I point out a mistaken attribution, to which you had linked. I might not have done that, and not returned here, if you wouldn't have accused me falsely in the first place! I have no
[FairfieldLife] Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing
Elmore Leonard's rules for writers Next month, the doyen of hardboiled crime writers is publishing a new book, 10 Rules of Writing. The following is a brief summary of his advice 1 Never open a book with weather. If it's only to create atmosphere, and not a character's reaction to the weather, you don't want to go on too long. The reader is apt to leaf ahead looking for people. There are exceptions. If you happen to be Barry Lopez, who has more ways than an Eskimo to describe ice and snow in his book Arctic Dreams, you can do all the weather reporting you want. 2 Avoid prologues: they can be annoying, especially a prologue following an introduction that comes after a foreword. But these are ordinarily found in non-fiction http://www.theguardian.com/books/fiction . A prologue in a novel is backstory, and you can drop it in anywhere you want. There is a prologue in John Steinbeck's Sweet Thursday, but it's OK because a character in the book makes the point of what my rules are all about. He says: I like a lot of talk in a book and I don't like to have nobody tell me what the guy that's talking looks like. I want to figure out what he looks like from the way he talks. 3 Never use a verb other than said to carry dialogue. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But said is far less intrusive than grumbled, gasped, cautioned, lied. I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with she asseverated and had to stop reading and go to the dictionary. 4 Never use an adverb to modify the verb said . . . he admonished gravely. To use an adverb this way (or almost any way) is a mortal sin. The writer is now exposing himself in earnest, using a word that distracts and can interrupt the rhythm of the exchange. I have a character in one of my books tell how she used to write historical romances full of rape and adverbs. 5 Keep your exclamation points under control. You are allowed no more than two or three per 100,000 words of prose. If you have the knack of playing with exclaimers the way Tom Wolfe does, you can throw them in by the handful. 6 Never use the words suddenly or all hell broke loose. This rule doesn't require an explanation. I have noticed that writers who use suddenly tend to exercise less control in the application of exclamation points. 7 Use regional dialect, patois, sparingly. Once you start spelling words in dialogue phonetically and loading the page with apostrophes, you won't be able to stop. Notice the way Annie Proulx captures the flavour of Wyoming voices in her book of short stories Close Range. 8 Avoid detailed descriptions of characters, which Steinbeck covered. In Ernest Hemingway's Hills Like White Elephants, what do the American and the girl with him look like? She had taken off her hat and put it on the table. That's the only reference to a physical description in the story. 9 Don't go into great detail describing places and things, unless you're Margaret Atwood and can paint scenes with language. You don't want descriptions that bring the action, the flow of the story, to a standstill. 10 Try to leave out the part that readers tend to skip. Think of what you skip reading a novel: thick paragraphs of prose you can see have too many words in them. My most important rule is one that sums up the 10: if it sounds like writing, I rewrite it. Elmore Leonard http://www.theguardian.com/books/elmoreleonard 's 10 Rules of Writing is published next month by Weidenfeld Nicolson. (But you won't need it now) http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/feb/24/elmore-leonard-rules-for-wr\ iters http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/feb/24/elmore-leonard-rules-for-w\ riters
[FairfieldLife] Re: Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing
11. Violate any of these rules if you're a good enough -- or funny enough -- writer to get away with it. I mention this rule because I've finally got the time to finish reading Christopher Moore's Sacre Bleu and my sides ache from laughing. If some editor who'd never written a publishable word in his or her life but who considered himself/herself an expert anyway had convinced him to kill his darlings, the book would be one-third the length it is, and one-twentieth as funny. Chris definitely knows the truth of If you're not having fun [writing], you're doing it wrong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Elmore Leonard's rules for writers Next month, the doyen of hardboiled crime writers is publishing a new book, 10 Rules of Writing. The following is a brief summary of his advice 1 Never open a book with weather. If it's only to create atmosphere, and not a character's reaction to the weather, you don't want to go on too long. The reader is apt to leaf ahead looking for people. There are exceptions. If you happen to be Barry Lopez, who has more ways than an Eskimo to describe ice and snow in his book Arctic Dreams, you can do all the weather reporting you want. 2 Avoid prologues: they can be annoying, especially a prologue following an introduction that comes after a foreword. But these are ordinarily found in non-fiction . A prologue in a novel is backstory, and you can drop it in anywhere you want. There is a prologue in John Steinbeck's Sweet Thursday, but it's OK because a character in the book makes the point of what my rules are all about. He says: I like a lot of talk in a book and I don't like to have nobody tell me what the guy that's talking looks like. I want to figure out what he looks like from the way he talks. 3 Never use a verb other than said to carry dialogue. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But said is far less intrusive than grumbled, gasped, cautioned, lied. I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with she asseverated and had to stop reading and go to the dictionary. 4 Never use an adverb to modify the verb said . . . he admonished gravely. To use an adverb this way (or almost any way) is a mortal sin. The writer is now exposing himself in earnest, using a word that distracts and can interrupt the rhythm of the exchange. I have a character in one of my books tell how she used to write historical romances full of rape and adverbs. 5 Keep your exclamation points under control. You are allowed no more than two or three per 100,000 words of prose. If you have the knack of playing with exclaimers the way Tom Wolfe does, you can throw them in by the handful. 6 Never use the words suddenly or all hell broke loose. This rule doesn't require an explanation. I have noticed that writers who use suddenly tend to exercise less control in the application of exclamation points. 7 Use regional dialect, patois, sparingly. Once you start spelling words in dialogue phonetically and loading the page with apostrophes, you won't be able to stop. Notice the way Annie Proulx captures the flavour of Wyoming voices in her book of short stories Close Range. 8 Avoid detailed descriptions of characters, which Steinbeck covered. In Ernest Hemingway's Hills Like White Elephants, what do the American and the girl with him look like? She had taken off her hat and put it on the table. That's the only reference to a physical description in the story. 9 Don't go into great detail describing places and things, unless you're Margaret Atwood and can paint scenes with language. You don't want descriptions that bring the action, the flow of the story, to a standstill. 10 Try to leave out the part that readers tend to skip. Think of what you skip reading a novel: thick paragraphs of prose you can see have too many words in them. My most important rule is one that sums up the 10: if it sounds like writing, I rewrite it. Elmore Leonard 's 10 Rules of Writing is published next month by Weidenfeld Nicolson. (But you won't need it now) http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/feb/24/elmore-leonard-rules-for-wr\ iters http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/feb/24/elmore-leonard-rules-for-w\ riters
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing
Even though it's cool and muggy this morning, salyavin, thank you for posting these from one who will never be a doyenne of hardboiled crime (-: From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing Elmore Leonard's rules for writers Next month, the doyen of hardboiled crime writers is publishing a new book, 10 Rules of Writing. The following is a brief summary of his advice 1 Never open a book with weather. If it's only to create atmosphere, and not a character's reaction to the weather, you don't want to go on too long. The reader is apt to leaf ahead looking for people. There are exceptions. If you happen to be Barry Lopez, who has more ways than an Eskimo to describe ice and snow in his book Arctic Dreams, you can do all the weather reporting you want. 2 Avoid prologues: they can be annoying, especially a prologue following an introduction that comes after a foreword. But these are ordinarily found in non-fiction. A prologue in a novel is backstory, and you can drop it in anywhere you want. There is a prologue in John Steinbeck's Sweet Thursday, but it's OK because a character in the book makes the point of what my rules are all about. He says: I like a lot of talk in a book and I don't like to have nobody tell me what the guy that's talking looks like. I want to figure out what he looks like from the way he talks. 3 Never use a verb other than said to carry dialogue. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But said is far less intrusive than grumbled, gasped, cautioned, lied. I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with she asseverated and had to stop reading and go to the dictionary. 4 Never use an adverb to modify the verb said . . . he admonished gravely. To use an adverb this way (or almost any way) is a mortal sin. The writer is now exposing himself in earnest, using a word that distracts and can interrupt the rhythm of the exchange. I have a character in one of my books tell how she used to write historical romances full of rape and adverbs. 5 Keep your exclamation points under control. You are allowed no more than two or three per 100,000 words of prose. If you have the knack of playing with exclaimers the way Tom Wolfe does, you can throw them in by the handful. 6 Never use the words suddenly or all hell broke loose. This rule doesn't require an explanation. I have noticed that writers who use suddenly tend to exercise less control in the application of exclamation points. 7 Use regional dialect, patois, sparingly. Once you start spelling words in dialogue phonetically and loading the page with apostrophes, you won't be able to stop. Notice the way Annie Proulx captures the flavour of Wyoming voices in her book of short stories Close Range. 8 Avoid detailed descriptions of characters, which Steinbeck covered. In Ernest Hemingway's Hills Like White Elephants, what do the American and the girl with him look like? She had taken off her hat and put it on the table. That's the only reference to a physical description in the story. 9 Don't go into great detail describing places and things, unless you're Margaret Atwood and can paint scenes with language. You don't want descriptions that bring the action, the flow of the story, to a standstill. 10 Try to leave out the part that readers tend to skip. Think of what you skip reading a novel: thick paragraphs of prose you can see have too many words in them. My most important rule is one that sums up the 10: if it sounds like writing, I rewrite it. Elmore Leonard's 10 Rules of Writing is published next month by Weidenfeld Nicolson. (But you won't need it now) http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/feb/24/elmore-leonard-rules-for-writers
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing
Nor even a doyenne or hardboiled crime writing (-: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing Even though it's cool and muggy this morning, salyavin, thank you for posting these from one who will never be a doyenne of hardboiled crime (-: From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing Elmore Leonard's rules for writers Next month, the doyen of hardboiled crime writers is publishing a new book, 10 Rules of Writing. The following is a brief summary of his advice 1 Never open a book with weather. If it's only to create atmosphere, and not a character's reaction to the weather, you don't want to go on too long. The reader is apt to leaf ahead looking for people. There are exceptions. If you happen to be Barry Lopez, who has more ways than an Eskimo to describe ice and snow in his book Arctic Dreams, you can do all the weather reporting you want. 2 Avoid prologues: they can be annoying, especially a prologue following an introduction that comes after a foreword. But these are ordinarily found in non-fiction. A prologue in a novel is backstory, and you can drop it in anywhere you want. There is a prologue in John Steinbeck's Sweet Thursday, but it's OK because a character in the book makes the point of what my rules are all about. He says: I like a lot of talk in a book and I don't like to have nobody tell me what the guy that's talking looks like. I want to figure out what he looks like from the way he talks. 3 Never use a verb other than said to carry dialogue. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But said is far less intrusive than grumbled, gasped, cautioned, lied. I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with she asseverated and had to stop reading and go to the dictionary. 4 Never use an adverb to modify the verb said . . . he admonished gravely. To use an adverb this way (or almost any way) is a mortal sin. The writer is now exposing himself in earnest, using a word that distracts and can interrupt the rhythm of the exchange. I have a character in one of my books tell how she used to write historical romances full of rape and adverbs. 5 Keep your exclamation points under control. You are allowed no more than two or three per 100,000 words of prose. If you have the knack of playing with exclaimers the way Tom Wolfe does, you can throw them in by the handful. 6 Never use the words suddenly or all hell broke loose. This rule doesn't require an explanation. I have noticed that writers who use suddenly tend to exercise less control in the application of exclamation points. 7 Use regional dialect, patois, sparingly. Once you start spelling words in dialogue phonetically and loading the page with apostrophes, you won't be able to stop. Notice the way Annie Proulx captures the flavour of Wyoming voices in her book of short stories Close Range. 8 Avoid detailed descriptions of characters, which Steinbeck covered. In Ernest Hemingway's Hills Like White Elephants, what do the American and the girl with him look like? She had taken off her hat and put it on the table. That's the only reference to a physical description in the story. 9 Don't go into great detail describing places and things, unless you're Margaret Atwood and can paint scenes with language. You don't want descriptions that bring the action, the flow of the story, to a standstill. 10 Try to leave out the part that readers tend to skip. Think of what you skip reading a novel: thick paragraphs of prose you can see have too many words in them. My most important rule is one that sums up the 10: if it sounds like writing, I rewrite it. Elmore Leonard's 10 Rules of Writing is published next month by Weidenfeld Nicolson. (But you won't need it now) http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/feb/24/elmore-leonard-rules-for-writers
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert — it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing
Ah, another day in paradise. My hand creeps upon my near shaven jaw this morning. All of my admirers and (haters), make myself laugh in stitches I do. Laugh (Haha), I look in the mirror this morning, feels like a Henley day in May, even with it being close to the end of summer, probably closer to autumn depending on the logistics of my daily routine in this south of France, silkroad habitat. Darn caterpillar's dropping on my tent and the weave of my comb over. Yawn,and stretch is what I feel this afternoon clutching my keyboard looking at a quiet start of a day on FFL in the country I once called home. But not anymore. I live in a place where free sex reigns as the most modern of degree. Who would have thought, the most sophisticated culture in the world, also known as the, Old World, would be right in tune with the ways things are supposed to be, the real reason I left my home and love to collect on its thriving SS check, for which I worked hard to earn to use it as I choose. Ah, the Old world http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23777246 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23777246 as I sip desire the Darjeeling French style, about to be set on my mosaic table, here at the outside cafe, pigeon fluff flows over me as the pink Vespa glides by seeming to kick those sill birds out of way of my view of the most beautiful French woman who handles the bars better than Clint Eastwood in a Western. Oh, my non attachment to the beauty as she and she and she passes by. They notice me, as my distinguished face is noticeable, my reflection on a window does not need any second check, for I have my web cam open as a back program running just behind my most glorious typing to you all on FFL. How I love to write on FFL for all to see, but I do find it a bit annoying to read many of the posts here, because there are people who love to carry negative messages about people they do not even know and lord knows if they misspell in these days of spell check and online thesaurus avail, not worth my time to read such imbeciles. http://www.france24.com/en/20130820-french-animators-universal-despicabl\ e-me-2-profits http://www.france24.com/en/20130820-french-animators-universal-despicab\ le-me-2-profits If only this keeps up, my worth for the trade may help me become the likes, like moving from Mountain View to Palo Alto, but it is all the same here, so no worries. C'est la vie BON APPETIT *Lawd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: 11. Violate any of these rules if you're a good enough -- or funny enough -- writer to get away with it. I mention this rule because I've finally got the time to finish reading Christopher Moore's Sacre Bleu and my sides ache from laughing. If some editor who'd never written a publishable word in his or her life but who considered himself/herself an expert anyway had convinced him to kill his darlings, the book would be one-third the length it is, and one-twentieth as funny. Chris definitely knows the truth of If you're not having fun [writing], you're doing it wrong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Elmore Leonard's rules for writers Next month, the doyen of hardboiled crime writers is publishing a new book, 10 Rules of Writing. The following is a brief summary of his advice 1 Never open a book with weather. If it's only to create atmosphere, and not a character's reaction to the weather, you don't want to go on too long. The reader is apt to leaf ahead looking for people. There are exceptions. If you happen to be Barry Lopez, who has more ways than an Eskimo to describe ice and snow in his book Arctic Dreams, you can do all the weather reporting you want. 2 Avoid prologues: they can be annoying, especially a prologue following an introduction that comes after a foreword. But these are ordinarily found in non-fiction . A prologue in a novel is backstory, and you can drop it in anywhere you want. There is a prologue in John Steinbeck's Sweet Thursday, but it's OK because a character in the book makes the point of what my rules are all about. He says: I like a lot of talk in a book and I don't like to have nobody tell me what the guy that's talking looks like. I want to figure out what he looks like from the way he talks. 3 Never use a verb other than said to carry dialogue. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But said is far less intrusive than grumbled, gasped, cautioned, lied. I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with she asseverated and had to stop reading and go to the dictionary. 4 Never use an adverb to modify the verb said . . . he admonished gravely. To use an adverb this way (or almost any way) is a mortal sin. The writer is now exposing himself in earnest, using a word that distracts and can interrupt the rhythm of the exchange. I have a character in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious hardware problems, TM is practically useless. Other schools have already acknowledged this. http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece --- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. --- Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:
*sigh*
Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal,
abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag.
But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never
fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have
played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he
certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail once
I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed
because that bitter, sullen old man loves me.
Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said bone a babe. I
have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it opened my eyes
a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his unquotable quotes.
Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some tragic nerve and all
Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:48 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
**
Xeno Exustio Offensio Vulnus Anorexias, Bone a babe? Come on! Really?
You need social skills! Here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIuuktFTn0
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
âââ‰â¬Â¹You trying to start a debate with reality Grandpa
Xeno?
You are one of the most hopelessly deluded persons on FFL BTW. The
man of
the Universal, abstract constructs aka platitudes :-)
You really need to bone a babe Ravi. You are stuck, you gotta break
out of
that mold. Do you have a standardised form you fill out when you post?
'You are { insult #1 }, { insult #2 }, { insult #3 }, etc., {
categorisation remark #1 }, { categorisation remark #2 }, etc.
You write and post some nice things from time to time. You need some
social skills not related to reading Judy's and Barry's posts.
ââ¬â¹Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold,
heartless
zombie
like you? LOL..I am a natural charmer, I easily charm and entertain and
captivate an audience. It shows how alienated from reality and how
hopelessly deluded you are, you idiot.
Did you read Bob Price from last night, that I make insults sing and
dance?
I spend lot of intelligence in my insults - whereas you SPEND ZERO
INTELLIGENCE AND ZERO CREATIVITY in your Universal, abstract constructs.
My insults are highly customized for each individual you ignorant fool -
show me where I reuse my insults - who else have I accused of using
Universal, abstract constructs other than you?
I only use generic insults when I'm still in the bait, provoke mode,
still
collecting some information on an individual, building my dossier.
ââ¬â¹
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: snip My later respectful, and grateful post of the 20th did explicitly not take any of that back, as you seem to indicate. Never suggested it did. I'm referring to the false friendliness and respect that was designed to disarm him. It didn't work. He knew it was a crock. First of all - it wasn't like this. I was genuine in my answer, I didn't take anything back, but I felt the respect I expressed. Second, where did he show this? In which post? How? You didn't answer. So I guess you are referring to the post Robin made on the 27 December, AFTER my borderline post, and AFTER you became all enraged. There is NO indication that Robin KNEW IT ALL ALONG or was right LOOKING THROUGH ME. Iranitea, you are SUCH a bore. I didn't answer because I was hoping you'd give up on this stupid argument. First of all, I don't believe you ever respected Robin. Second, yes, his post of December 27 is where he told you explicitly that he had known you were prejudiced against him from the start. Contrary to what you seem to think, this was not hard to discern from your posts (including the one in which you parodied his writing style). You had no intention of engaging with him; you were just going to pronounce judgment on his mental health, as you did a few days later in your discussion with Barry. On the 20 Dec 2011, what I said was genuinely felt at the time. As I say, I don't believe you. Neither was there any direct contradiction to anything I said before in my post on the 16th. Of course not. You didn't *say* anything in your post of December 20 except for the insincere compliments. He just narrated his story, and I was impressed by his skill in narration, but as you admit yourself, The word here is assert, not admit. it did in no way address the more philosophical questions, or give an answer to the ontological problem, his story, his version what his enlightenment was about. Indeed that was never satisfyingly addressed. To *your* satisfaction, you mean. As I said earlier, he told you what he thought you needed to know about him. He wasn't giving a lecture on Hinduism or Advaita. You are wrong, in your mind-reading about my motivation as well. When I expressed, with intentionally few words, respect for his experience, I had no plan about my post a few days later, on the 26. This was a spontaneous reaction, partly by your over-devotional attitude (in another thread), This is astonishing, that you would question his mental health in public because you didn't like something I had said about him. Of course I have never had a devotional attitude toward Robin. As I recall, you had earlier made a fool of yourself by suggesting I had such an attitude toward Ravi. You even gave a little lecture about how women tend to fall in love with their gurus. That was hilarious. partly simply by my intention NOT to hide anything, to be completely open, quite the opposite of what you say. You waited until you saw you had some support from Barry to be open about your opinion of Robin. Judy, you are soo often so wrong in the way you judge people, a special situation, their supposed intentions etc. Hand-waving. I have basically no real interest in Robin. Bullshit. You are obsessed with him, and your many posts about him prove it. Why I mention it, is that so much things are going on here between US, which is based on a wrong calculation on your side. Only someone with a deeply warped mentality would try to punish a person they were having a dispute with by attacking another person for whom the first person had respect and admiration. Why don't you admit, when you were wrong? I always admit it when I'm wrong, unlike you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong, that Robin could 'look through me', neither can you? If you make a mistake, in the timeline or in your judgment, why can't you just say: I'm sorry, I was wrong? I would not be telling the truth if I did. You were also wrong when you said, as you did, that I called Robin of having NPD, that was Barry, not me, and at the same time, you called me a liar? And you *agreed* with Barry about Robin having NPD, remember? I didn't call you a liar in the post commenting on your agreement with Barry, BTW. I've certainly had other occasions to do so, however. And then you get all upset, when I point out a mistaken attribution, to which you had linked. I didn't get all upset, I thought it was hilarious. I might not have done that, and not returned here, if you wouldn't have accused me falsely in the first place! Oh, that's even funnier. I didn't accuse you falsely. But you're letting something I said over a year and a half
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Elmore Leonard's 10 rules of writing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: 11. Violate any of these rules if you're a good enough -- or funny enough -- writer to get away with it. I mention this rule because I've finally got the time to finish reading Christopher Moore's Sacre Bleu and my sides ache from laughing. If some editor who'd never written a publishable word in his or her life but who considered himself/herself an expert anyway had convinced him to kill his darlings, the book would be one-third the length it is, and one-twentieth as funny. A good editor, of course, wouldn't tell a writer to murder any of his or her darlings that made the book better; and a good writer would never go along with a bad editor's telling him or her to do so. BTW, an editor can be an expert on writing without being a writer him- or herself. It's really only hack writers with excessively inflated egos who don't understand this. Chris definitely knows the truth of If you're not having fun [writing], you're doing it wrong. Sure are a lot of first-class writers doing it wrong, then.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI Wow, we really scare the bejesus out of you, don't we?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nagel for Salyavin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: The Core of `Mind and Cosmos'By THOMAS NAGEL http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/author/thomas-nagel/ This is a brief statement of positions defended more fully in my book Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False, which was published by Oxford University Press last year. Since then the book has attracted a good deal of critical attention, which is not surprising, given the entrenchment of the world view that it attacks. It seemed useful to offer a short summary of the central argument. Read more:http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-an\ d-cosmos/ http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-and-co\ smos/ http://www.ted.com/talks/martin_hanczyc_the_line_between_life_and_not_life.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=oil-droplets-mimic-early-life Probably be a good idea to read at least the article in the NYTimes, Jason. Then you'd realize your assertions don't challenge Nagel's thesis the way you thought they did, because he isn't saying what you thought he was. Darwin's concept is naturalist and not materialist. Maintain that distinction. 'Natural Selection' itself is a form of intelligence. An abstract, rudimentary, mathematical intelligence. Even if Nature has intelligence, (as Maharishi sez), It dosen't contradict Darwin in any way. If Maharishi's infinite self-organising power of nature is a form of intelligence, it only means the earliest life self assembled itself. Again, there is nothing here that contradicts Darwin. There is still no personal god. Subjective first person ontology is not always reliable or accurate. It has to be corroborated with objective scientific data.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove useful here. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI Wow, we really scare the bejesus out of you, don't we? Nope, you don't. Just having a little fun here. :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
This review of Guinn's book was in the paper: http://seattletimes.com/html/books/2021627178_charlesmansonbiographyxml.\ html http://seattletimes.com/html/books/2021627178_charlesmansonbiographyxml\ .html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove useful here. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: snip My later respectful, and grateful post of the 20th did explicitly not take any of that back, as you seem to indicate. Never suggested it did. I'm referring to the false friendliness and respect that was designed to disarm him. It didn't work. He knew it was a crock. First of all - it wasn't like this. I was genuine in my answer, I didn't take anything back, but I felt the respect I expressed. Second, where did he show this? In which post? How? You didn't answer. So I guess you are referring to the post Robin made on the 27 December, AFTER my borderline post, and AFTER you became all enraged. There is NO indication that Robin KNEW IT ALL ALONG or was right LOOKING THROUGH ME. Iranitea, you are SUCH a bore. I didn't answer because I was hoping you'd give up on this stupid argument. First of all, I don't believe you ever respected Robin. Second, yes, his post of December 27 is where he told you explicitly that he had known you were prejudiced against him from the start. Contrary to what you seem to think, this was not hard to discern from your posts (including the one in which you parodied his writing style). You had no intention of engaging with him; you were just going to pronounce judgment on his mental health, as you did a few days later in your discussion with Barry. On the 20 Dec 2011, what I said was genuinely felt at the time. As I say, I don't believe you. Neither was there any direct contradiction to anything I said before in my post on the 16th. Of course not. You didn't *say* anything in your post of December 20 except for the insincere compliments. He just narrated his story, and I was impressed by his skill in narration, but as you admit yourself, The word here is assert, not admit. it did in no way address the more philosophical questions, or give an answer to the ontological problem, his story, his version what his enlightenment was about. Indeed that was never satisfyingly addressed. To *your* satisfaction, you mean. As I said earlier, he told you what he thought you needed to know about him. He wasn't giving a lecture on Hinduism or Advaita. You are wrong, in your mind-reading about my motivation as well. When I expressed, with intentionally few words, respect for his experience, I had no plan about my post a few days later, on the 26. This was a spontaneous reaction, partly by your over-devotional attitude (in another thread), This is astonishing, that you would question his mental health in public because you didn't like something I had said about him. Of course I have never had a devotional attitude toward Robin. As I recall, you had earlier made a fool of yourself by suggesting I had such an attitude toward Ravi. You even gave a little lecture about how women tend to fall in love with their gurus. That was hilarious. partly simply by my intention NOT to hide anything, to be completely open, quite the opposite of what you say. You waited until you saw you had some support from Barry to be open about your opinion of Robin. Judy, you are soo often so wrong in the way you judge people, a special situation, their supposed intentions etc. Hand-waving. I have basically no real interest in Robin. Bullshit. You are obsessed with him, and your many posts about him prove it. Why I mention it, is that so much things are going on here between US, which is based on a wrong calculation on your side. Only someone with a deeply warped mentality would try to punish a person they were having a dispute with by attacking another person for whom the first person had respect and admiration. I wasn't trying to 'punish' you. LOL I was trying to make things clear, I said a thousand times. I must be a bore, because you don't understand and twist everything. Why don't you admit, when you were wrong? I always admit it when I'm wrong, unlike you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong, that Robin could 'look through me', neither can you? If you make a mistake, in the timeline or in your judgment, why can't you just say: I'm sorry, I was wrong? I would not be telling the truth if I did. Did you take a politicians course or how to be a lawyer? You were also wrong when you said, as you did, that I called Robin of having NPD, that was Barry, not me, and at the same time, you called me a liar? And you *agreed* with Barry about Robin having NPD, remember? That's a downright lie. Your reading ability must be seriously impaired. I clearly
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? No, I was lucky not to have this experience. Sorry to evoke some bad memories and stuff. Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: *sigh* Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal, abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag. But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail once I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed because that bitter, sullen old man loves me. Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said bone a babe. I have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it opened my eyes a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his unquotable quotes. Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some tragic nerve and all Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments. Yes, I was unpleasantly surprised by that expression, too. Sounds so clinical, like de-boning a fish or a chicken. Definitely some social integration needed for Zee-no. Hope he doesn't meet any babes in the meantime.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid
In the Turq's cafe of choice as he visits the south of France. or more realistically when Samuel Adams realized he could make more profits with beer in the next couple of centuries than tea. HO HO, just kidding. Share are you talking about the Ron Paul Tea Party, or the time after being hijacked which included Sarah Palin and the likes of er cronies? Two different Tea parties. Kind of like when the Black Panthers were going to be set up for the murders Charlie Manson was to be part of orgy thing ordeal. A Tea Party is better off turning to beer when one realizes the same as enlightenment is not done by ritual, but by experience. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Great chart, Jason, where would you put the Tea Party? From: Jason jedi_spock@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid  All attempts to strike a balance between Meritocracy and Egalitarianism has failed. While American capitalism veered towards Meritocracy, The Soviet communism veered towards Egalitarianism. Nature itself is perfectly balanced between 'order and chaos', 'individual and collective', 'competition and cooperation', and so on. http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/ideomap.html The diagram above gives a fair idea. The point is Nature's balance is razor sharp. 300 years of industrial civilisation (second wave), is over. As we are moving into the post-industrial era (third wave), new ideologies can emerge. --- Bhairitu wrote: Texas is like another planet. Must be a horrible place to live. ;-) Good article on Willy's neighbor though: http://www.esquire.com/features/alex-jones-interview-0913 On 08/20/2013 09:40 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/texas-swat-team-conducts-_n_376\ 4951.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my time around potentially harmful people: Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point. Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
I think the term shared by Xeno to Ravi, Bone a babe, was giving good elderly advice. Xeno, having had many experiences is wondering why a young fit hunk like Ravi would be spending his days posting on boards, when in Xeno's mind, that is the LAST thing Xeno would be doing if he had his chance to do it over, and those three words as blunt as they are, are to the point as in, No time to waste cuz life creeps up on you fast, better go use it before you loose it, type of wisdom. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: *sigh* Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal, abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag. But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail once I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed because that bitter, sullen old man loves me. Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said bone a babe. I have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it opened my eyes a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his unquotable quotes. Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some tragic nerve and all Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments. Yes, I was unpleasantly surprised by that expression, too. Sounds so clinical, like de-boning a fish or a chicken. Definitely some social integration needed for Zee-no. Hope he doesn't meet any babes in the meantime.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Just lessons learned, Iranitea. I'm not holding onto anything negative associated with my run-ins or experiences. Have a nice day. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? No, I was lucky not to have this experience. Sorry to evoke some bad memories and stuff. Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see through - no mystery at all. Scum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove useful here. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid
Share, given your enthusiasm for this chart, where would *you* put the Tea Party? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Great chart, Jason, where would you put the Tea Party? From: Jason jedi_spock@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid  All attempts to strike a balance between Meritocracy and Egalitarianism has failed. While American capitalism veered towards Meritocracy, The Soviet communism veered towards Egalitarianism. Nature itself is perfectly balanced between 'order and chaos', 'individual and collective', 'competition and cooperation', and so on. http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/ideomap.html The diagram above gives a fair idea. The point is Nature's balance is razor sharp. 300 years of industrial civilisation (second wave), is over. As we are moving into the post-industrial era (third wave), new ideologies can emerge. --- Bhairitu wrote: Texas is like another planet. Must be a horrible place to live. ;-) Good article on Willy's neighbor though: http://www.esquire.com/features/alex-jones-interview-0913 On 08/20/2013 09:40 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/texas-swat-team-conducts-_n_376\ 4951.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's what I say. Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my time around potentially harmful people: Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point. Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Someone who makes that claim doesn't seem to understand TM at all?? ROFLOL! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious hardware problems, TM is practically useless. Other schools have already acknowledged this. http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece --- Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. --- Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the person's behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one case, when the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had found a piece of glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that it was meant for them specifically. Also had someone literally push their laptop onto the floor and smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's what I say. Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my time around potentially harmful people: Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point. Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcijAiOdjk The Black Dog Institute. Only in Australia: http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Doc, of course keep him locked up and probably in solitary confinement too. But is that it?! Are you saying that nothing should be done to try to fix his brain? From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see through - no mystery at all. Scum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove useful here. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert †it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
His mom is a TM teacher, I believe. She may or may not have taught him. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Lawson, years ago Rolling Stones magazine interviewed Howard Stern and asked him if there was anyone or anything he would not mock. He immediately replied Maharishi and TM. But he didn't mention his Mom in that context only that he had benefited from TM. From: sparaig LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  He IS the master of the shock-jock style of interview. When he interviewed MMY, he was ultra-respectful, I believe (if nothing else, his mom would have killed him). L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Actually, in the Howard Stern interview, Howard kept on encouraging him to say something bad about Katey Perry. Say something bad about her vagina. Hmmm, Stern sounds like he's developed some empathy and quality values from his 40 years of meditating. Brand's response was my wife was perfect from top to bottom. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I read the article with amusement and disgust - whether you think him vile and disgusting or merely graceless, his TM-ing is running true to form - the Movement goes to asses to do PR for them - just look at their behavior and see if its a good advertisement for TM From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . àWhen PR fails, they may try to send him on Purusha, byàpressing bad press??? LOL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2384829/Russell-Brand-jokes-think-women-love-Katy-Perry.html Hey Russy baby, don't listen to all those brainless boobs. Justàphuck em like a harem.àOf course some of them just lay there ( Don't want to mess up the hair, or the makeup or the nails.) àNo need to move to Uttar Kashi and give up your bank account to save your soul, either.àààààààààààààààMr. Brand, please do these exceptional yagyas for this and that.àààThis $$. and That $. I don't care what the Maharishi Pandits have said. I know. Been there, done that.ààKeep trying. Don't give up. Don't give it all away. It will not make your life any better. You will get that special one, some day, that darn Rahu/Shukra thing gives a rough ride sometimes, but don't give up. Just find someone with the Rahu/Shukra too, then you too can sit and hold hands by that television on the couch,( for 5 minutes)àas per more media crap says you say, where did you find your handlers ààhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/russell-brand_n_3491697.html There, Nabby, I posted this to give you something else to think about beyond crop circles...your other most favorite topic; People who are famous who have done TM or do TM or continue TM. :) ...this is also to help Mr. Brand know he can keep his chin up because, just because posting this was something to do, to fill a day of fasting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Wonder how much Lynch paid him to tout TM - as we all know, if you visit OTHER SAINTS you can't git in the Domes - what a bunch of disingenuous saps the TM leaders and PR people are. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . ÃâàHmm. Come on Russell, who's yer real Daddy?ÃâàlolÃâàJust sayin.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/comedian-russell-brand-pictured-exploring-2179780Ãâà--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten 1 year ago dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curryÃÆ'ïÃâûÃâÿ conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Ah yes, fun timesI'll spare you my horror stories as I'm in a good mood this morning. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the person's behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one case, when the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had found a piece of glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that it was meant for them specifically. Also had someone literally push their laptop onto the floor and smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's what I say. Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my time around potentially harmful people: Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point. Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
What would *you* suggest Share? Please support your ideas with research on the efficacy of whatever you propose. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, of course keep him locked up and probably in solitary confinement too. But is that it?! Are you saying that nothing should be done to try to fix his brain? From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see through - no mystery at all. Scum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove useful here. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â⬠it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Having to deal with a Mutiny on the Bounty, once, and wow, that was not easy having to listen to a plan of a stupid man and his real suggestions of aim to a team. The man not realizing my position of stand and of authority to the particular project, I almost had an ass whooping by an overly macho guy as I prepared to kick his ass, the team reserved their stance by standing or sitting quietly. We must have looked like we were doing a square dance in the middle of the room. I was shaking from the adrenalin rush. It was almost a scene from Fight Club. It didn't end up that way. I pulled back and used his mule meat till the project was over. Sounds like a power trip? Not on my end. I was protecting the whole project and the client and succeeded until it ended. The man thought I was enemy to the person who organized the event, which was further from the truth. He based his findings on gossip. One thing about gossip, it bears no facts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the person's behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one case, when the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had found a piece of glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that it was meant for them specifically. Also had someone literally push their laptop onto the floor and smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's what I say. Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my time around potentially harmful people: Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point. Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
Are you a cat by any chance? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I've heard one doc say that one shouldn't eat tuna, which I love, more than 2 or 3 times a year! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Most so-called Atlantic Salmon is farmed - fish packed in pens, pumped full of steroids and antibiotics, so they can grow to adult size in a fraction of the time. I am anything but a foodie, though I wanted to share that tidbit with you. The dangers of eating farmed fish is becoming obvious. Authorities in Russia and Norway now advice to eat that fish maximum twice a week and warns it should not being eaten by pregnant women and children. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week àMike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Jason, thanks so much for great article by Dr. Ramachandran, a man who seems to be bridging the chasm between the philosophers and the scientists. I find his communication style very accessible and in amazon there are reviews that indicate this gift carries over into the book. Here's an old TED talk of his: http://www.ted.com/talks/vilayanur_ramachandran_on_your_mind.html From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious hardware problems, TM is practically useless. Other schools have already acknowledged this. http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece --- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. --- Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert †it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia
Thanks, Lawson, Fred is amazing and I look forward to watching this. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcijAiOdjk The Black Dog Institute. Only in Australia: http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
He doesn't appear to mention TM at all And why would people be unable to do TM because of face blindness or any of the other issues mentioned? Dementia to the point that they can't remember instructions would prevent someone from learning/practicing TM, and no doubt specific brain injuries can cause problems that TM teachers don't know how to workaround, but that's different than generic brain damage preventing you from learning TM. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious hardware problems, TM is practically useless. Other schools have already acknowledged this. http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/article406720.ece --- Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. --- Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert �� it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia
Don't forget the spiritual solutions Share. :) :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: L, the focus on neuroscience brings to mind something which I think of as one of Maharishi's wisest utterances. He said: save the psychology. It's a funny but sweet paradox to me that neuroscience can lead to more compassion not less. By focusing on physical and practical solutions to mental problems, the psychology is saved from mucking about in labels and theories that are neither proven nor helpful. IMHO! From: sparaig LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcijAiOdjk The Black Dog Institute. Only in Australia: http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia
L, the focus on neuroscience brings to mind something which I think of as one of Maharishi's wisest utterances. He said: save the psychology. It's a funny but sweet paradox to me that neuroscience can lead to more compassion not less. By focusing on physical and practical solutions to mental problems, the psychology is saved from mucking about in labels and theories that are neither proven nor helpful. IMHO! From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcijAiOdjk The Black Dog Institute. Only in Australia: http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia
In my worldview Emily, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual exist on the same continuum of life. Under the influence of the previous paradigm, both physical and psychological doctors isolated aspects of being human, to the detriment, IMO, of all concerned. I think we're fortunate to be living in an era when those separative analyses are being questioned and more holistic approaches are being sought and studied fervently. From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia Don't forget the spiritual solutions Share. :) :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: L, the focus on neuroscience brings to mind something which I think of as one of Maharishi's wisest utterances. He said: save the psychology. It's a funny but sweet paradox to me that neuroscience can lead to more compassion not less. By focusing on physical and practical solutions to mental problems, the psychology is saved from mucking about in labels and theories that are neither proven nor helpful. IMHO! From: sparaig LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcijAiOdjk The Black Dog Institute. Only in Australia: http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia
Nice Share. Have a great day. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: In my worldview Emily, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual exist on the same continuum of life. Under the influence of the previous paradigm, both physical and psychological doctors isolated aspects of being human, to the detriment, IMO, of all concerned. I think we're fortunate to be living in an era when those separative analyses are being questioned and more holistic approaches are being sought and studied fervently. From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia  Don't forget the spiritual solutions Share. :) :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: L, the focus on neuroscience brings to mind something which I think of as one of Maharishi's wisest utterances. He said: save the psychology. It's a funny but sweet paradox to me that neuroscience can lead to more compassion not less. By focusing on physical and practical solutions to mental problems, the psychology is saved from mucking about in labels and theories that are neither proven nor helpful. IMHO! From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fred Travis gives lecture on TM to doctors and researchers in Australia àhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LcijAiOdjk The Black Dog Institute. Only in Australia: http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip Only someone with a deeply warped mentality would try to punish a person they were having a dispute with by attacking another person for whom the first person had respect and admiration. I wasn't trying to 'punish' you. Sure you were: This [questioning Robin's mental health] was a spontaneous reaction, partly by your over-devotional attitude (in another thread)... I think you may have actually been *jealous* of my admiration of Robin. You thought I should be admiring *you*. Remember all your love-bombing? So you figured you needed to tear him down to correct my opinion of him. LOL I was trying to make things clear, I said a thousand times. I must be a bore, because you don't understand and twist everything. Mind-reading, iranitea. I understand perfectly what you are trying to convey. It's just that I don't believe you. Furthermore, that's not the only instance in which you've let your anti-Robin behavior be dictated by something I've said. You've acknowledged you made that ridiculous fuss over the misattributions because of what I had said to you back in December 2011; and you posted that long quote from something Robin had written 30-some years ago awhile back because you didn't like something complimentary I had said about him. That's just *insane*, iranitea. Why don't you admit, when you were wrong? I always admit it when I'm wrong, unlike you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong, that Robin could 'look through me', neither can you? If you make a mistake, in the timeline or in your judgment, why can't you just say: I'm sorry, I was wrong? I would not be telling the truth if I did. Did you take a politicians course or how to be a lawyer? Uh, no. Does it seem particularly learned or scholarly to you? Seems like basic common sense to me. You were also wrong when you said, as you did, that I called Robin of having NPD, that was Barry, not me, and at the same time, you called me a liar? And you *agreed* with Barry about Robin having NPD, remember? That's a downright lie. Your reading ability must be seriously impaired. I clearly stated that I did NOT think he had NPD. You did not. Barry pronounced his NPD/hypomania diagnosis, and you replied: Of course. He is smart enough, he makes everyone either follower (or admirer) or opponent. (black and white, ask Curtis) In reality he is a poor and old guy, who's illusions were shattered. I don't really find any mystery about him, I rather find the fascination mysterious, he has for some people, intelligent people at that. (Of course indicates agreement in English.) Just extraordinarily ugly and deliberately hurtful. And clearly aimed at me as well. Now, earlier in that same post, Barry said Robin was a classic case of NPD/hypmania [sic] augmented by moodmaking and a desire to become the focus of other people's attention. And you responded: Barry, I am with you on this. Not to the exact type of diagnosis, I am not a psychiatrist. I would call it a borderline personality, these people can be very intelligent. I don't like it to be blunt like this, especially, since the person is here on the board. it is also not meant to be a put-down, these persons can't help it. That is why I said, there is no use discussing with someone, who will be unable to change his mind, no matter how smart he argues. From the very first reading of RWC I got this impression, and expressed it to somebody here. Whatever I read, hear about the whole case confirms my opinion. According to occam's razor, it is more likely he had a mental disturbance, which is known to have similar symptoms than enlightened states, than a fall from a real enlightened state. There are too many congruences, like all this demon/false devas stuff that permeates his whole history. It's all throughout, pre- and post supposed unity. All the channeling stuff, like obviously 1945, it's really all rather typical for some schizophrenic disorder. That's my opinion. I cannot know everything, and if I am wrong, who cares? It wouldn't have mattered who you were talking about, those two paragraphs were *inexcusable*. But Not to the exact type of diagnosis was the *closest you came* to not subscribing to everything Barry said. (In fact, you went well beyond it.) Barry's diagnosis was not just NPD; it was hypomania and moodmaking and attention seeking. Who knew what part(s) of that you were disagreeing with, or to what degree? Highly ambiguous. Then you went on to *confirm* Barry's NPD/hypomania diagnosis with Of course. You never said, No, I don't think it was NPD. It wouldn't have mattered even if you had; the rest of what you wrote made it crystal clear you thought (or wanted readers to think) that Robin was seriously mentally unbalanced. This was all *on a public forum* while Robin was present to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Sure, a forceful injection of the element lead, into his brain, would cure him.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, of course keep him locked up and probably in solitary confinement too. But is that it?! Are you saying that nothing should be done to try to fix his brain? From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  I have read a lot about him, and watched his interviews in the past. He is simply a con artist. He grew up in the prison system, and I wouldn't believe the guy if he told me the sun would rise tomorrow. He is very easy to see through - no mystery at all. Scum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, when Manson says about the coyote: He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. That's the big tip off right there IMHO. The guy, and probably the coyote too, are running on reptilian brain. Which of course is preternaturally powerful, ancient, all about survival and unconscious drives. We all got one. Good to acknowledge yet know that's not the whole story. Any attempt to analyze Manson and what motivates him is not only frivolous but probably dangerous. Reptilian brains aside, a thinking cap might prove useful here. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Hilarious Grandpa, I need some social skills from a cold, heartless zombie like you? Absolutely not. That you would even think of such a thing in passing shows you are hopelessly deranged. I would suggest another source. I suggest Charles Manson: 'We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free?' 'Will of God.. whatever you wanna call it.. you call it Jesus, call it Mohammed, call it goobybob, call it nuclear mind, call it blow the world up, call it your heart. Whatever you wanna call it, it's still music to me. It's there. It's the will of life.' 'As long as there's hate in your heart, there'll be hate in the world. You can't fight for peace and you cannot capture freedom.' 'Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert â⬠it's the same thing, man. The coyote is beautiful. He moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness.' 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.'
[FairfieldLife] Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
yep, though I ask myself what else I would have done for work, and can't come up with a good answer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Ah yes, fun timesI'll spare you my horror stories as I'm in a good mood this morning. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: The most difficult thing about it, is having to track and document the person's behavior meticulously. Fortunately I was helped out greatly in one case, when the person on a performance plan confided in me that they had found a piece of glass in a cookie served during a large meeting, and that it was meant for them specifically. Also had someone literally push their laptop onto the floor and smash it to avoid a milestone date. Fun times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: It's preferable to be in charge of hiring and not afraid to fire - that's what I say. Unfortunately, firing can be a difficult thing. Smile. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: A couple of guidelines I developed over the years, to spot, and minimize my time around potentially harmful people: Everyone gets a second chance, but no one gets a third. I use this to spot weirdos, and it is amazingly accurate. Aside from something criminal or violent, I will tolerate almost anything when I first meet someone. I don't wear my opinions on my sleeve, and I just interact, engage, and observe. If they have manipulative tendencies, the second time I meet them, they are assuming a green light, based on our first interaction, and reveal much more of themselves. Easy enough to graciously sidestep at that point. Tied into the above, the micro is the macro. I developed this one when interviewing candidates for teams I was building. I can guarantee that if someone demonstrates a hint of something during that initial interview, it will manifest more strongly later, once their guard is down. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Just choosing to combat evil this morning, Iranitea. I always take sociopaths/psychopaths seriously - ever been on the other end of one? Not something to play with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Well, Emily, that's nice. If I inspired you to pray, I am actually quite happy about it. Next time, don't take it too serious, okay ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Iranitea, I feel forced to counter this with: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: 'There's nothing wrong with being incompetent... It just means you don't have to do as much.' Now that's classic - love it! Is it really by Manson originally? The Mean Girls Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMXJwuqeI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Judy, Of all the stances you've taken, this one condemns you as a broken personality. How could anything about this be good news? BAH! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
below From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:06:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? Barry, As a cockroach and member *under consideration* of the MGC, I hope you noticed the kiss I blew you as I scampered across your laptop screen recently; I was a little concerned to see you attempting those martial art moves as if your laptop was attacking you; as I believe Ann (Grand Poobah of the MGC) has mentioned: its only the Internet, and we're not actually real; at least in the sense that having a girl with you---in Provence in August---would be considered real; just between you and me (and the floorboards), your laptop is not the same thing as a lap dancer---or a blow up doll for that matter---no matter how much you squint at it. Share loved your Bee Gees link and asked me to pass this on to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3091MHksLM4 Personally, I think she might be getting close to suggesting the two of you curl up in front of the fire channel together; I hear you can do that over SKYPE. can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own behavior. :-) How often does Barry admit to being embarrassed by his own behavior? Gee, I can't think of a single instance. Anybody? Anyway, that's my theory, which is mine. You may agree with it, or disagree with it, and -- either way -- I don't really give a fuck. As much as it may pain those who
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
below From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:06:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? Barry, As a cockroach and member *under consideration* of the MGC, I hope you noticed the kiss I blew you as I scampered across your laptop screen recently; I was a little concerned to see you attempting those martial art moves as if your laptop was attacking you; as I believe Ann (Grand Poobah of the MGC) has mentioned: its only the Internet, and we're not actually real; at least in the sense that having a girl with you---in Provence in August---would be considered real; just between you and me (and the floorboards), your laptop is not the same thing as a lap dancer---or a blow up doll for that matter---no matter how much you squint at it. Share loved your Bee Gees link and asked me to pass this on to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3091MHksLM4 Personally, I think she might be getting close to suggesting the two of you curl up in front of the fire channel together; I hear you can do that over SKYPE. can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own behavior. :-) How often does Barry admit to being embarrassed by his own behavior? Gee, I can't think of a single instance. Anybody? Anyway, that's my theory, which is mine. You may agree with it, or disagree with it, and -- either way -- I don't really give a fuck. As much as it may pain those who focus
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Well first thing Grandpa Xeno needs to understand is I do not approach matters of heart like him, like some cold, psychopathic, bone-a-babe clinical experiments. I'm a real sensitive, compassionate, vulnerable lover. As it is I find it hard to fall in love and I was apparently cursed and the existence played a cruel, twisted joke by making me fall in love with a woman who is currently fantasizing on Amma. So yeah you all have to deal with my sexually frustrated insults in the interim :-) On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** I think the term shared by Xeno to Ravi, Bone a babe, was giving good elderly advice. Xeno, having had many experiences is wondering why a young fit hunk like Ravi would be spending his days posting on boards, when in Xeno's mind, that is the LAST thing Xeno would be doing if he had his chance to do it over, and those three words as blunt as they are, are to the point as in, No time to waste cuz life creeps up on you fast, better go use it before you loose it, type of wisdom. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: *sigh* Yeah you figured out my Grandpa Xeno - in the absence of his Universal, abstract constructs he turns into a graceless, tactless douche-bag. But you know what that creepy, cold, heartless bastard may have never fallen in love, may have never sung a song in joy or pain, may never have played an instrument, written poetry, loved any children or pets, but he certainly loves me !!! Because his Universal, abstract constructs fail once I start messing with his big head and so he will be always be redeemed because that bitter, sullen old man loves me. Xeno will forever be remembered in my mind as the man who said bone a babe. I have never quite heard it said like this and coming from him it opened my eyes a little bit. Now all this talk about Charlie M with his unquotable quotes. Ravi, you have finally gotten to the Xenon, you hit some tragic nerve and all Spock-like control has left him, for a few moments. Yes, I was unpleasantly surprised by that expression, too. Sounds so clinical, like de-boning a fish or a chicken. Definitely some social integration needed for Zee-no. Hope he doesn't meet any babes in the meantime.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
I'm seriously impressed. In future, when the neighbours upstairs start hoovering while I'm meditating I shall know to grin and bear it. Sounds like you were on duty though: snoozing on the job could get you the Bradley Manning treatment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: A quieter place is a more restful place, so sure, but that doesn't mean you can't meditate in some pretty noisy places. I've meditated in places where literally, had I not been wearing earplugs, my hearing would have been permanently damaged or even destroyed (if an F-111 is so close to you that the backwash from its engine knocks your army helmet off your head and 30 feet through the air before it hits the ground, you're too damn close the F-111 -fortunately I was wearing full chemical warfare gear and barely felt the heat the the tunic or smelled the exhaust through the gas-mask... just a faint whiff of fuel was all).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
The Turq asked me to pass this on to Share http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMG3VR5PP4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMG3VR5PP4 Turq says he is sorry, Share. He knows he fucked up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: below From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:06:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? Barry, As a cockroach and member *under consideration* of the MGC, I hope you noticed the kiss I blew you as I scampered across your laptop screen recently; I was a little concerned to see you attempting those martial art moves as if your laptop was attacking you; as I believe Ann (Grand Poobah of the MGC) has mentioned: its only the Internet, and we're not actually real; at least in the sense that having a girl with you---in Provence in August---would be considered real; just between you and me (and the floorboards), your laptop is not the same thing as a lap dancer---or a blow up doll for that matter---no matter how much you squint at it. Share loved your Bee Gees link and asked me to pass this on to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3091MHksLM4 Personally, I think she might be getting close to suggesting the two of you curl up in front of the fire channel together; I hear you can do that over SKYPE. can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own
[FairfieldLife] Ex-Pope Told by God to Resign
Apparently, Pope Benedict had a mystical experience which prompted him to resign as pontiff of the Catholic Church. As we have speculated earlier this year, this was the likely reason due to the alignment of the planets in his birth chart. http://news.yahoo.com/ex-pope-benedict-says-god-told-resign-report-104959018.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ravi Chivukula Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Thanks for that clarification Rick. I understand your constraints, if at all I was disappointed that my respect for you as someone who enables and supports free speech faltered as you handed over the moderator ship to an Amma fanatic. Anyway sanity's restored, Jim's back as the onwer/moderator - as usual people accuse of me of bullying, verbal abuse, dominating but he is able to see and appreciate the larger context of mine - thank god. I didn’t have time to do justice to it. I wasn’t reading the posts and couldn’t fairly make the value judgments required. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ravi Chivukula Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:42 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group - Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week and I'm having a lot of fun. Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's devotees indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the owner/moderator Jim was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to June this year). I was also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed over the moderatorship to some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). I didn’t want to do it any more.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
Obbaaa, don't you dare make me all mushy about my turqish delight! It's only been a week and I want to plot some more cackle cackle (-: PS Like this one, lots of posts aren't being delivered to inbox but I found it in archives. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: The Turq asked me to pass this on to Share http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMG3VR5PP4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMG3VR5PP4 Turq says he is sorry, Share. He knows he fucked up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: below From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:06:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? Barry, As a cockroach and member *under consideration* of the MGC, I hope you noticed the kiss I blew you as I scampered across your laptop screen recently; I was a little concerned to see you attempting those martial art moves as if your laptop was attacking you; as I believe Ann (Grand Poobah of the MGC) has mentioned: its only the Internet, and we're not actually real; at least in the sense that having a girl with you---in Provence in August---would be considered real; just between you and me (and the floorboards), your laptop is not the same thing as a lap dancer---or a blow up doll for that matter---no matter how much you squint at it. Share loved your Bee Gees link and asked me to pass this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
Shhare, S. It's okay. Quietly hit replay on it and grab the box of tissue. Turq really meant it. When it is done, replay a few more times. Your beauty and quietness will humble his angst...then that spanx will not needed for some. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Obbaaa, don't you dare make me all mushy about my turqish delight! It's only been a week and I want to plot some more cackle cackle (-: PS Like this one, lots of posts aren't being delivered to inbox but I found it in archives. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: The Turq asked me to pass this on to Share http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMG3VR5PP4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMG3VR5PP4 Turq says he is sorry, Share. He knows he fucked up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: below From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:06:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? Barry, As a cockroach and member *under consideration* of the MGC, I hope you noticed the kiss I blew you as I scampered across your laptop screen recently; I was a little concerned to see you attempting those martial art moves as if your laptop was
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Judy, Of all the stances you've taken, this one condemns you as a broken personality. How could anything about this be good news? Well, if you're thinking it's bad news because they should have strung him up or thrown him in the Hole for life, we have nothing to discuss. On the other hand, if you're thinking he shouldn't have gotten *any* prison time, we are in perfect agreement. Given that he was going to get prison time no matter what, though--that being the circumstances I referred to--I'm very glad he got the lighter sentence. BAH! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Judy, Of all the stances you've taken, this one condemns you as a broken personality. How could anything about this be good news? Well, if you're thinking it's bad news because they should have strung him up or thrown him in the Hole for life, we have nothing to discuss. On the other hand, if you're thinking he shouldn't have gotten *any* prison time, we are in perfect agreement. Given that he was going to get prison time no matter what, though--that being the circumstances I referred to--I'm very glad he got the lighter sentence. I think he misunderstood what you were saying but this post of yours has made it crystal clear. BAH! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ex-Pope Told by God to Resign
What a contrast in outcome http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/0\ 6/bush.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/\ 06/bush.shtml --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: Apparently, Pope Benedict had a mystical experience which prompted him to resign as pontiff of the Catholic Church. As we have speculated earlier this year, this was the likely reason due to the alignment of the planets in his birth chart. http://news.yahoo.com/ex-pope-benedict-says-god-told-resign-report-10495\ 9018.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ex-Pope Told by God to Resign
What a (Rat)zinger of a shot. [;)] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: Apparently, Pope Benedict had a mystical experience which prompted him to resign as pontiff of the Catholic Church. As we have speculated earlier this year, this was the likely reason due to the alignment of the planets in his birth chart. http://news.yahoo.com/ex-pope-benedict-says-god-told-resign-report-10495\ 9018.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Okay, I misunderstood. GAWD I walked right into that one. Ha! Gotta just gotta hone my reading skills. Yep, on 2nd reading, your text was communicative enough that I should've picked up on your meaning. But small choice in rotten apples has me grouchy. Let's face it: they'll torture this guy forever, and add too he will never leave prison except as a shambling wreck -- not that he isn't one already. I could not believe you were saying what I thought you were saying, so that should have prompted me to do a second read. So there's two confessed bads. The list grows as the attention dwells! I'm outta heah. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Judy, Of all the stances you've taken, this one condemns you as a broken personality. How could anything about this be good news? Well, if you're thinking it's bad news because they should have strung him up or thrown him in the Hole for life, we have nothing to discuss. On the other hand, if you're thinking he shouldn't have gotten *any* prison time, we are in perfect agreement. Given that he was going to get prison time no matter what, though--that being the circumstances I referred to--I'm very glad he got the lighter sentence. BAH! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Please ignore Bob dear, clearly Mrs. Price is mad at him and not letting him conduct any bone-a-babe clinical experiments and he is expressing his frustration. He will eventually wise up to your and Xeno's awesomeness. On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:41 PM, sharelong60 sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Heh heh. It happens, we all do it now and then, no problem. Thanks for following up. The only way what you said would have made any sense is if you were out for Manning's blood, and that clearly ain't you, babe, so I figured something had gone awry somewhere. Know what you mean about small choice in rotten apples (good phrase; is that yours?). The whole Manning story has been so depressing that this was actually a pleasant surprise, because it could have been so much worse. I do have the sense that there was such a scandale about his horrendously inhumane treatment that they may not try that again. (God only knows how he'll fare at the hands of the other inmates, but maybe he'll get adequate protection.) And I was surprised to learn he'll be eligible for parole after eight or so years. Of course they can deny him that just out of spite, but again if he behaves himself and doesn't give them any reason to deny parole, that'll also create a big fuss. He has a *constituency* of sorts now. I mean, who knows? But I think there's a good chance he'll be relatively OK, or at least not too much worse than when he goes in. I kept reading that he would likely be imprisoned for the rest of his life, and my heart just sank. So, modified rapture at this news. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Okay, I misunderstood. GAWD I walked right into that one. Ha! Gotta just gotta hone my reading skills. Yep, on 2nd reading, your text was communicative enough that I should've picked up on your meaning. But small choice in rotten apples has me grouchy. Let's face it: they'll torture this guy forever, and add too he will never leave prison except as a shambling wreck -- not that he isn't one already. I could not believe you were saying what I thought you were saying, so that should have prompted me to do a second read. So there's two confessed bads. The list grows as the attention dwells! I'm outta heah. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Judy, Of all the stances you've taken, this one condemns you as a broken personality. How could anything about this be good news? Well, if you're thinking it's bad news because they should have strung him up or thrown him in the Hole for life, we have nothing to discuss. On the other hand, if you're thinking he shouldn't have gotten *any* prison time, we are in perfect agreement. Given that he was going to get prison time no matter what, though--that being the circumstances I referred to--I'm very glad he got the lighter sentence. BAH! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him. (BTW, I think by old embalming fluid salesmen, he was referring to Xeno.) , pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ex-Pope Told by God to Resign
Meru, He was the pontiff. We'll have to take his word for it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: What a (Rat)zinger of a shot. [;)] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: Apparently, Pope Benedict had a mystical experience which prompted him to resign as pontiff of the Catholic Church. As we have speculated earlier this year, this was the likely reason due to the alignment of the planets in his birth chart. http://news.yahoo.com/ex-pope-benedict-says-god-told-resign-report-10495\ 9018.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him. (BTW, I think by old embalming fluid salesmen, he was referring to Xeno.) , pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him. (BTW, I think by old embalming fluid salesmen, he was referring to Xeno.) , pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
I found a copy of the ruling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EKndHBy7U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EKndHBy7U --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Can someone please help my aunt understand the difference between stupidity and irony? Emily? Am I asking too much? On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:32 PM, sharelong60 sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance Yep, Stumblin' Bob, we call him. (BTW, I think by old embalming fluid salesmen, he was referring to Xeno.) , pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Re The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. : never heard of them; did they take up TM? Wonder how wholesome: Wiki tells me that they had an album called Cocaine Drain.And take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the energizerbunny after he just got hit by lightening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg From: sharelong60 sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
OMG - can you please stop ganging up on my poor old aunt. Can't you see how gentle I am with her? On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:02 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a copy of the rulinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EKndHBy7U --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board. Yes, although I hear there might be a wrinkle or two in getting a decision. The board is known to consist of starched shirt types who can really build up a head of steam when pressed for this type of unanimous ruling.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Warning: adult content! I see that Hefner-link TV show was sponsored by TWA. It reminds me of that gag we all knew but can no longer use since Trans World Airlines went belly-up in 2001:- A TWA stewardess attending to a male passenger asks, Would you like to try our TWA coffee? No thanks, the male passenger responds, but I'd sure like to have some of your TWA tea (i.e., T-W-A-T). (The dirty joke has been known since 1941!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Re The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. : never heard of them; did they take up TM? Wonder how wholesome: Wiki tells me that they had an album called Cocaine Drain.And take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ \ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
The Chairman of the board, and Ravi---before there was a Ravi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_V9RT8aR8 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:45:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board. Yes, although I hear there might be a wrinkle or two in getting a decision. The board is known to consist of starched shirt types who can really build up a head of steam when pressed for this type of unanimous ruling. LOL..that really cracked me up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
Seriously, Edg? A broken personality? Between you and iranitea, I am beginning to think it is a full moon, or something :-) (And as always, Judy, re the latter you astonish me with your patience, accuracy and fortitude...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Judy, Of all the stances you've taken, this one condemns you as a broken personality. How could anything about this be good news? BAH! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: I think you may have actually been *jealous* of my admiration of Robin. You thought I should be admiring *you*. Remember all your love-bombing? So you figured you needed to tear him down to correct my opinion of him. Oh, you really believe this? my god, Judy, you gave me the laugh of the day. You really descend into the rabbit hole, don't you? Any more similar insights? I am starting to enjoy it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
Haha. Well, here is a family who had remarkable principles and kept on going after being belly up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ifkDgcypE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ifkDgcypE Above is rated G. Below, the Aristocrats, family version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS1T4qYtOj0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS1T4qYtOj0 I have no idea why I went this way with this subject. Anyways, I am sure, the Cowsills were not pro Cocaine, with Cocaine Drain, and neither were they Hanging out, with Heffner, if you know what I mean, wink, wink. Good wholesome family stuff. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Warning: adult content! I see that Hefner-link TV show was sponsored by TWA. It reminds me of that gag we all knew but can no longer use since Trans World Airlines went belly-up in 2001:- A TWA stewardess attending to a male passenger asks, Would you like to try our TWA coffee? No thanks, the male passenger responds, but I'd sure like to have some of your TWA tea (i.e., T-W-A-T). (The dirty joke has been known since 1941!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Re The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. : never heard of them; did they take up TM? Wonder how wholesome: Wiki tells me that they had an album called Cocaine Drain.And take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ \ \ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
I meant it as a joke, Ravi. Share can iron as well as Edith. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: OMG - can you please stop ganging up on my poor old aunt. Can't you see how gentle I am with her? On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:02 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a copy of the rulinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EKndHBy7U --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ah, the *real* reason for the 15-day waiting period
LOL - After missing a flight to somewhere, my family always referred to them as Take-off Without Announcing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Warning: adult content! I see that Hefner-link TV show was sponsored by TWA. It reminds me of that gag we all knew but can no longer use since Trans World Airlines went belly-up in 2001:- A TWA stewardess attending to a male passenger asks, Would you like to try our TWA coffee? No thanks, the male passenger responds, but I'd sure like to have some of your TWA tea (i.e., T-W-A-T). (The dirty joke has been known since 1941!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Re The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. : never heard of them; did they take up TM? Wonder how wholesome: Wiki tells me that they had an album called Cocaine Drain.And take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlML0HvpPU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Darn it! Now no one will be able to say the Cowsills should have been made the poster children for TM instead of the beatles [:-s] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdT3tn1lWZo The Cowsills would have been so awesome and wholesome. Geez. Oh wait, they still are?! This article better have their facts straight. I know there are a lot of young people doing that shit now. I know people who bragged they did them and they were/are fucked up now years later. The were, are dead. I wonder if Donovan did any of these regularly? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It was to give people whose mental health had been improved by psychedelics long enough to turn back into crazy cult fodder. :-) http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/psychedelics-dont-give-you\ \ \ \ -mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw u-mental-health-problems-study-says?src=SOCdom=tw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ex-Pope Told by God to Resign
I think his mystical experience, was something along the lines of, Screw this! I am the Pope, Goddamnit, and I can quit if I want to!...Right God? Right! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Apparently, Pope Benedict had a mystical experience which prompted him to resign as pontiff of the Catholic Church. As we have speculated earlier this year, this was the likely reason due to the alignment of the planets in his birth chart. http://news.yahoo.com/ex-pope-benedict-says-god-told-resign-report-104959018.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
My apologies, Edg; I didn't realize I had lagged so far behind the conversational front when I wrote this. I have been trying to delete it, unsuccessfully, ever since... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Seriously, Edg? A broken personality? Between you and iranitea, I am beginning to think it is a full moon, or something :-) (And as always, Judy, re the latter you astonish me with your patience, accuracy and fortitude...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Judy, Of all the stances you've taken, this one condemns you as a broken personality. How could anything about this be good news? BAH! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: The prosecution had asked for *60 years*. He'll have 3 years knocked off the 35 for time in custody and for mistreatment he received during his pretrial confinement. He'll be eligible for parole in a little over 8 years. Everything I've been reading suggested he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, so this seems to me to be very good news under the circumstances.
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[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the energizer bunny after he just got hit by lightening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg From: sharelong60 sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Pardon the interruption to these lovely posts to ask a technical question directed to anyone reading: I am noticing posts being posted more than once on the FFL Message Board (signed in and out) and in my email box too, messages are being sent more than once. I do believe there is a glitch somewhere, at first I thought Mr. Price was http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ass-call http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ass-call giving us a little, as he was giving Mrs. Price a little, but (butt, ass-call, heh) I think some of you more tech savvy geeks may know what is happening as to why these posts are cloning? Anyone have an answer or if is it yahoo jerking off again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote:  So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; donât get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the energizer bunny after he just got hit by lightening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg From: sharelong60 sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc   From: Bob Price To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess àShare, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend wrote: à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't
