[FairfieldLife] The Federal Court Ruling SCI and TM a Religion
Initially the CWLF [ Christian World Liberation Front] kind of Christians came in to the TM case wanting to interrupt hedonisms and narcissisms of the hippie culture and new-agers but then with some bad taste in their mouths they had to come around to actually argue that TM was legitimate religion more than just hedonism and hence it should be thrown out of schools; arguing by bringing in all kinds of expert theologians and other scholars on religions to examine what religions are and thereby establish that SCI through TM was indeed a religion with a religious practice and ironically even on par with Christianity. They won the case in the extreme. The judge wrote an important opinion that stands in American jurisprudence. I was at a conference last week where a scholar presented a paper on the fragmentation of the CWLF during those 1960's-'70's years. Telling their larger story he incidentally referenced that TM court case as coming out of the CWLF. I spoke with him a little afterwards learning abou this. I remember reading the court opinion written for the TM case. It was really well written and is actually worth reading. -Buck in the Dome '68 Berkeley also the Christian World Liberation Front began as a mission to the city's radicals. CWLF going on to sue and win in New Jersey Federal Court the case defining Maharishi's Science of Creative Intelligence a religion and hence that TM should not be taught in publicly sponsored schools. It seems that the David Lynch Foundation under Roth has won that case in the end. Huzzah! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: '68 at UC Berkeley -- a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: 1968 Transcendental Meditation with the following analogy: The surface of the ocean is waves and white caps. But deeper down, the ocean is still. How TM differs from other meditations, he says, is that it doesn't attempt to still the waves, but rather allow access to the stillness.
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
Thanks Card. So at the end of the Gita when Arjuna says: I have regained memory, does he say shruti or smriti labdha? Not to make a pun, but I don't remember LOL. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:56 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: smRti (memory) is mundane knowledge, shruti (hearing) is Divine Knowledge?? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, emptybill, it's been a long time since I heard about smriti and shruti and it looks like no one else is gonna ask so: what is the difference between them? On Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:41 AM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote: Questioner: So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement? Ram: Yes. Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did. His lifestyle too, sitting in meditation in a cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic. The reason yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by the language of Yoga into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi. So when the experience is ‘on’ they are not looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state permanent, sahaja. The joke is that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent experience. Furthermore, they do not realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. On Mon, 10/14/13, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 14, 2013, 8:20 PM OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean by unsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Judy, this isn't the article I read years ago about migration from the coasts, but conveys the same idea: http://www.newgeography.com/content/002362-moving-coast On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:19 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. On Mon, 10/14/13, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 14, 2013, 8:20 PM OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean by unsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence
Thanks for posting this - I enjoyed reading it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is an excellent article! Dick http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/ The Uncarved Blog http://theuncarvedblog.com/ Ken Chawkin's articles poems: Transcendental Meditation, consciousness enlightenment « How TM helped calm and center a young woman’s busy mind—inspiring article in new Irish magazine http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/11/how-tm-helped-calm-and-center-a-young-womans-busy-mind-inspiring-article-in-new-irish-magazine/ Renowned (TM) meditation teacher Bob Roth featured on The Third Metric and HuffPost Live Huffington Post Senior Writer Ann Brenoff http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ann-brenoff profiled Bob Roth, Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/, an exemplary representative for The Third Metric http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/third-metric: Redefining Success Beyond Money and Power.huff.to/1albfF9 http://t.co/d7BlSfcr93 (10/14/2013) Meditation Teacher To The Stars: His clients include Oprah, Russell Brand, Martin Scorcese and Dr. Oz, but renowned meditation teacher Bob Roth also serves low-income and under-served communities by sharing his passion: Transcendental Meditation http://www.tm.org/. Bob Roth was also interviewed on @HuffPostLive https://twitter.com/HuffPostLive: Stress Is The New Black Plague: Meditation guru Bob Roth @meditationbob https://twitter.com/meditationbob joins host Nancy Redd @nancyredd https://twitter.com/nancyredd to explain the benefits of meditation: Bob Roth Talks Transcendental Meditation @TMmeditation https://twitter.com/TMmeditation. Watch this lively interview http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 http://t.co/jAIZ4udNgA (12:46). http://kenchawkin.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/bob-roth-large570.jpg Bob Roth: Bringing Calm To The Center Of Life’s Storm If there was a perfect year in which to discover Transcendental Meditation, it might just have been 1968. That was the year that Bob Roth was a freshman at UC Berkeley — a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. He remembers living surrounded by helicopters spewing tear gas over student war protesters and Army tanks parked outside his front door. Demonstrations. Riots. Chaos. And against this backdrop, Roth did what many college students do: He took a part-time job. He sold scoops of ice cream at Swenson’s ice cream parlor, never expecting that amid the rush of pending social changes engulfing him, it would be at the ice cream shop where he would meet a guy who would ultimately alter the course of his life forever. The college crew at Swenson’s was the usual motley collection of hippies, straights and everything in between, recalls Roth. But one guy stood out: Peter Stevens. “He was like a quiet reflection pool amid the chaos,” recalls Roth, “and I was drawn to him.” “Peter was centered, energetic, super-smart, kind to all, easy-going, never agitated, with an ineffable calm about him,” Roth told The Huffington Post. He learned that Peter “meditated,” something that Roth said was a bit of a disconnect for him. “Meditation was not in my vocabulary.” But he was intrigued and curious, and went with Stevens to a class in Transcendental Meditation, a meditative practice derived from the ancient Vedic tradition in India. After just one class, Roth was hooked. Today, Roth is the executive director of the David Lynch Foundation http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/, where he has helped bring Transcendental Meditation programs to more than 300,000 at-risk kids in 35 countries, as well as veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, and women and girls who are survivors of domestic violence. He’s also the national director of the Center for Leadership Performance, which introduces the TM program to business, industry and government organizations — and even some United Nations groups. Today, Roth’s student roster includes a lot of very recognizable names: Oprah http://www.oprah.com/health/Oprah-on-Stillness-and-Meditation-Oprah-Visits-Fairfield-Iowa, Russell Simmons, Russell Brand, Martin Scorsese, Mehmet Oz, Hugh Jackman and dozens of others. He’d be embarrassed to be called “meditation teacher to the stars,” but such a description wouldn’t be far off. For the past 40 years, he has meditated twice a day no matter where he is, in places as discombobulating as an airplane when need be. He explains Transcendental Meditation with the following analogy: The surface of the ocean is waves and white caps. But deeper down, the ocean is still. How TM differs from other meditations, he says,
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
Within the context of the discussion, shruti contains the realizations (seen/heard) of the rishi-s while smriti encompasses the recollections and ideas of the teachers of the traditions. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks Card. So at the end of the Gita when Arjuna says: I have regained memory, does he say shruti or smriti labdha? Not to make a pun, but I don't remember LOL. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:56 AM, cardemaister@... cardemaister@... wrote: smRti (memory) is mundane knowledge, shruti (hearing) is Divine Knowledge?? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, emptybill, it's been a long time since I heard about smriti and shruti and it looks like no one else is gonna ask so: what is the difference between them? On Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:41 AM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote: Questioner: So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement? Ram: Yes. Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did. His lifestyle too, sitting in meditation in a cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic. The reason yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by the language of Yoga into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi. So when the experience is ‘on’ they are not looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state permanent, sahaja. The joke is that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent experience. Furthermore, they do not realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!
So, the Obamacare PPACA looks like it may make you fill out all the personal information BEFORE you can see the insurance rates. That tells me they don't want you to see the rates because they are so high. If 50 million people are uninsured today, mainly because insurance is too expensive, why is it better to make coverage even costlier? And, you can't buy out of state insurance across state lines; and military dependents aren't covered by Tricare to age 26. And, the system just gets slower and slower every day. Go figure. People should be fired - throw the bums out! ObamaCare is one of the best reasons to vote Libertarianism in the next election. 'Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are' Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs/?partner=yahootix ' Obamacare Regs 30X Longer Than Law' http://www.cnsnews.com/http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/11588500-words-obamacare-regs-30x-long-law On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Ann Woelfle Bater awoelfleba...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Whine, whine, whine. I wish that damn US health care package would hurry up and get up and running 'cause then maybe we won't have to listen to all the fear mongering and complaining. Maybe if you stop calling it Obamacare you will start opening your mind a little and becoming more objective. So many who are against it are not fans of Obama so they label the health plan Obama such and such. Next it'll be Obamawar, Obamacrime, Obamapollution ... On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43:15 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Obanmcare was supposed to be Obama's signature legislation. He had plenty of time to get this right, but it's obvious Obama knows nothing about running a business or coding a program. He got Obamacare passed in the middle of the night, before anyone had even read it - not a single Repub voted for Obamacare. What's up with that? On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Bhairitu, about the good idea of a maximum wage, I'd like to also suggest that for actors. I would also include athletes but their shelf life is shorter and they are much more susceptible to injuries. What will it take to bring the economy more into balance? On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but it wasn't free but I didn't pay what the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone. I bought it direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS comes out (eat your heart out Alex). But I don't chatter much on phones. I mainly communicate via email. BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk. Today I pay $30 a month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a month. Go figure. The plan is a prepay too (no contract). The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I just get their SIM card and install it. And the phone acts as a remote for the Chromecast. I have Medicare Part A only. I won't pay for the B part nor for supplemental. If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW). Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW. His salary is too damn high! We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum wage too. On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and it was free. Now that's better! When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only spending a few dollars every three months on his phone! Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes. LoL! The big problem is that the rent's too damn high! The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare' News8: http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is up; the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's Burger Joint! Go figure. Now, the medical insurance bill is going up? Not to mention fixing the price - so that younger people pay more to keep the premiums down for the older folks. If we had a single payer system for medical
[FairfieldLife] Places You Can't Afford to Live
An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing//http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/ [image: Inline image 1]
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
Well I-Went-to-Empty-the-Trash-and-I-Only-Got-As-Far-As-the-Door, you probably didn't realize my tutelage was all at the hands of Inowitall Andudont and therefore I could run circles around your supposed knowledge on all of this. Currently, my teacher (you may have heard of her, she is the one and only Celestial Moody) and she focuses primarily on the Sovlakian Gangnum Style Romoulade cooking most favoured by Gypsy fire eaters. I am happy to provide some reading material if you care to expand your horizons. You appear to have spent an inordinate amount of time perusing the bargain section in your local book store and dwelling far to deeply into the make believe world of men - so many men. I guarantee that a woman's POV might prove fascinating for you (as I know all of my posts to you have left you further enlightened) and Ms Moody is jus the woman for the job. On Monday, October 14, 2013 9:02:55 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Well Tea House ... You didn't say exactly when you were leaving but the link you provided was enough to assay the quality. Perhaps you didn't realized that I received training in Buddhism by Professor Alfonso Verdu. Under his tutelage, I received extensive teachings about Yogachara/Vijñanavada, Madhyamaka and HwaYen/Kegon. You also don't appear to realize that my current teacher is Younge Khachab Rimpoche VII, who is a Tibetan Khenpo-Geshe Rabjam and focuses particularly upon classical Mahayana, four and nine level Tantra, the Ganga Mahamudra of Tilopa/Naropa and the Dzogchen transmissions of Vimalamitra and Longchenpa. Khachab has stayed at my house and has been very generous with his personal teachings to me. I state it this way so you realize that I have been over this stuff before and don’t intend to waste time analyzing arguments by the like of Prairie Dog Willy or your blogging-friend Kevin Whatever. So sorry Ol' Tea House ... but the site only proffers old academic ideas long refuted and dismissed. Perhaps it all appeared clever to you but it only wasted my time. Glad though that you know who is and who is not enlightened. Perhaps you'll 'spanit to me because I do not find illumination in your undefined idea of 'lighten-mint' - which really only really means the Germanic Aufklärung. And don't gime more of MMY's 7 states. I was trained as a TM teacher and though it took me awhile to realize that he just made this stuff up, I certainly don’t intend to listen to it again. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Empty, I'm soon out of town, so no time now to give you a deserving answer. But since you like to pontificate with the voice of RAM aka James Swartz, I owe it to my close friend and Tiru resident Kevinanandaji, to expose you to his satirizing him. Here, take this, about your new found hero: http://chi-ting.blogspot.de/search/label/James%20Swartz%20%28Ram%29 (and don't take it too serious!) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Questioner: So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement? Ram: Yes. Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did. His lifestyle too, sitting in meditation in a cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic. The reason yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by the language of Yoga into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi. So when the experience is ‘on’ they are not looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state permanent, sahaja. The joke is that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent experience. Furthermore, they do not realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. Yes, he is subsidizing your children just as I subsidize all those children I don't have up here in Canada with my property taxes. So, it appears we both live in Socialistic countries after all. Unfortunately, my taxes are over $5000 per year for a 2900 sq foot house and a horse barn and hay barn. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
A couple of letters. On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:54:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, emptybill, it's been a long time since I heard about smriti and shruti and it looks like no one else is gonna ask so: what is the difference between them? On Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:41 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Questioner: So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement? Ram: Yes. Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did. His lifestyle too, sitting in meditation in a cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic. The reason yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by the language of Yoga into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi. So when the experience is ‘on’ they are not looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state permanent, sahaja. The joke is that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent experience. Furthermore, they do not realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence
Desperate for attention and revenue, the TMO pays yet another TM shill at the Huffington Post to trumpet the praises of grinning Bobby Roth and by extension sing the praises of the TM Movement and its core practice. In other news, a mouse ran across the toes of several TMSP'ers in the Ladies Dome during program - the shrieking and hopping about was mistakenly considered to be excellent effects of Patanjali's Golden Sutras. Even though the real cause of the commotion was eventually revealed, film and photos of the event are already being used to promote belief in yogic flying success. On Tue, 10/15/13, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 12:01 PM This is an excellent article!Dick http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The Uncarved BlogKen Chawkin's articles poems: Transcendental Meditation, consciousness enlightenment« How TM helped calm and center a young woman’s busy mind—inspiring article in new Irish magazineRenowned (TM) meditation teacher Bob Roth featured on The Third Metric and HuffPost LiveHuffington Post Senior Writer Ann Brenoff profiled Bob Roth, Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation, an exemplary representative for The Third Metric: Redefining Success Beyond Money and Power.huff.to/1albfF9 (10/14/2013)Meditation Teacher To The Stars: His clients include Oprah, Russell Brand, Martin Scorcese and Dr. Oz, but renowned meditation teacher Bob Roth also serves low-income and under-served communities by sharing his passion: Transcendental Meditation.Bob Roth was also interviewed on @HuffPostLive: Stress Is The New Black Plague: Meditation guru Bob Roth @meditationbob joins host Nancy Redd @nancyredd to explain the benefits of meditation: Bob Roth Talks Transcendental Meditation @TMmeditation. Watch this lively interview http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 (12:46).Bob Roth: Bringing Calm To The Center Of Life’s StormIf there was a perfect year in which to discover Transcendental Meditation, it might just have been 1968. That was the year that Bob Roth was a freshman at UC Berkeley — a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. He remembers living surrounded by helicopters spewing tear gas over student war protesters and Army tanks parked outside his front door. Demonstrations. Riots. Chaos.And against this backdrop, Roth did what many college students do: He took a part-time job. He sold scoops of ice cream at Swenson’s ice cream parlor, never expecting that amid the rush of pending social changes engulfing him, it would be at the ice cream shop where he would meet a guy who would ultimately alter the course of his life forever.The college crew at Swenson’s was the usual motley collection of hippies, straights and everything in between, recalls Roth. But one guy stood out: Peter Stevens. “He was like a quiet reflection pool amid the chaos,” recalls Roth, “and I was drawn to him.”“Peter was centered, energetic, super-smart, kind to all, easy-going, never agitated, with an ineffable calm about him,” Roth told The Huffington Post. He learned that Peter “meditated,” something that Roth said was a bit of a disconnect for him. “Meditation was not in my vocabulary.” But he was intrigued and curious, and went with Stevens to a class in Transcendental Meditation, a meditative practice derived from the ancient Vedic tradition in India. After just one class, Roth was hooked.Today, Roth is the executive director of the David Lynch Foundation, where he has helped bring Transcendental Meditation programs to more than 300,000 at-risk kids in 35 countries, as well as veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, and women and girls who are survivors of domestic violence. He’s also the national director of the Center for Leadership Performance, which introduces the TM program to business, industry and government organizations — and even some United Nations groups.Today, Roth’s student roster includes a lot of very recognizable names: Oprah, Russell Simmons, Russell Brand, Martin Scorsese, Mehmet Oz, Hugh Jackman and dozens of others. He’d be embarrassed to be called “meditation teacher to the stars,” but such a description wouldn’t be far off. For the past 40 years, he has meditated twice a day no matter where he is, in places as discombobulating as an airplane when need be.He explains Transcendental Meditation with the following analogy: The surface of the ocean is waves and white caps. But deeper down, the ocean is still. How TM differs from other meditations, he says, is that it doesn’t attempt to still the waves, but rather allow
Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can't Afford to Live
Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing//
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence
What exactly, were you doing inside the ladies dome? On 10/15/2013 8:57 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Desperate for attention and revenue, the TMO pays yet another TM shill at the Huffington Post to trumpet the praises of grinning Bobby Roth and by extension sing the praises of the TM Movement and its core practice. In other news, a mouse ran across the toes of several TMSP'ers in the Ladies Dome during program - the shrieking and hopping about was mistakenly considered to be excellent effects of Patanjali's Golden Sutras. Even though the real cause of the commotion was eventually revealed, film and photos of the event are already being used to promote belief in yogic flying success. On Tue, 10/15/13, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 12:01 PM This is an excellent article!Dick http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The Uncarved BlogKen Chawkin's articles poems: Transcendental Meditation, consciousness enlightenment« How TM helped calm and center a young woman’s busy mind—inspiring article in new Irish magazineRenowned (TM) meditation teacher Bob Roth featured on The Third Metric and HuffPost LiveHuffington Post Senior Writer Ann Brenoff profiled Bob Roth, Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation, an exemplary representative for The Third Metric: Redefining Success Beyond Money and Power.huff.to/1albfF9 (10/14/2013)Meditation Teacher To The Stars: His clients include Oprah, Russell Brand, Martin Scorcese and Dr. Oz, but renowned meditation teacher Bob Roth also serves low-income and under-served communities by sharing his passion: Transcendental Meditation.Bob Roth was also interviewed on @HuffPostLive: Stress Is The New Black Plague: Meditation guru Bob Roth @meditationbob joins host Nancy Redd @nancyredd to explain the benefits of meditation: Bob Roth Talks Transcendental Meditation @TMmeditation. Watch this lively interview http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 (12:46).Bob Roth: Bringing Calm To The Center Of Life’s StormIf there was a perfect year in which to discover Transcendental Meditation, it might just have been 1968. That was the year that Bob Roth was a freshman at UC Berkeley — a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. He remembers living surrounded by helicopters spewing tear gas over student war protesters and Army tanks parked outside his front door. Demonstrations. Riots. Chaos.And against this backdrop, Roth did what many college students do: He took a part-time job. He sold scoops of ice cream at Swenson’s ice cream parlor, never expecting that amid the rush of pending social changes engulfing him, it would be at the ice cream shop where he would meet a guy who would ultimately alter the course of his life forever.The college crew at Swenson’s was the usual motley collection of hippies, straights and everything in between, recalls Roth. But one guy stood out: Peter Stevens. “He was like a quiet reflection pool amid the chaos,” recalls Roth, “and I was drawn to him.”“Peter was centered, energetic, super-smart, kind to all, easy-going, never agitated, with an ineffable calm about him,” Roth told The Huffington Post. He learned that Peter “meditated,” something that Roth said was a bit of a disconnect for him. “Meditation was not in my vocabulary.” But he was intrigued and curious, and went with Stevens to a class in Transcendental Meditation, a meditative practice derived from the ancient Vedic tradition in India. After just one class, Roth was hooked.Today, Roth is the executive director of the David Lynch Foundation, where he has helped bring Transcendental Meditation programs to more than 300,000 at-risk kids in 35 countries, as well as veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, and women and girls who are survivors of domestic violence. He’s also the national director of the Center for Leadership Performance, which introduces the TM program to business, industry and government organizations — and even some United Nations groups.Today, Roth’s student roster includes a lot of very recognizable names: Oprah, Russell Simmons, Russell Brand, Martin Scorsese, Mehmet Oz, Hugh Jackman and dozens of others. He’d be embarrassed to be called “meditation teacher to the stars,” but such a description wouldn’t be far off. For the past 40 years, he has meditated twice a day no matter where he is, in places as discombobulating as an airplane when need be.He explains Transcendental Meditation with the following analogy: The surface of the ocean is waves and white caps. But deeper down, the ocean is still. How TM differs from other meditations, he says, is that it doesn’t attempt to still the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can't Afford to Live
Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing//
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!
Richard, all this is just making me so happy that I'm 65 and on Medicare! On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:30 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: So, the Obamacare PPACA looks like it may make you fill out all the personal information BEFORE you can see the insurance rates. That tells me they don't want you to see the rates because they are so high. If 50 million people are uninsured today, mainly because insurance is too expensive, why is it better to make coverage even costlier? And, you can't buy out of state insurance across state lines; and military dependents aren't covered by Tricare to age 26. And, the system just gets slower and slower every day. Go figure. People should be fired - throw the bums out! ObamaCare is one of the best reasons to vote Libertarianism in the next election. 'Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are' Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/ ' Obamacare Regs 30X Longer Than Law' http://www.cnsnews.com/ On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Ann Woelfle Bater awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Whine, whine, whine. I wish that damn US health care package would hurry up and get up and running 'cause then maybe we won't have to listen to all the fear mongering and complaining. Maybe if you stop calling it Obamacare you will start opening your mind a little and becoming more objective. So many who are against it are not fans of Obama so they label the health plan Obama such and such. Next it'll be Obamawar, Obamacrime, Obamapollution ... On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43:15 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Obanmcare was supposed to be Obama's signature legislation. He had plenty of time to get this right, but it's obvious Obama knows nothing about running a business or coding a program. He got Obamacare passed in the middle of the night, before anyone had even read it - not a single Repub voted for Obamacare. What's up with that? On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu, about the good idea of a maximum wage, I'd like to also suggest that for actors. I would also include athletes but their shelf life is shorter and they are much more susceptible to injuries. What will it take to bring the economy more into balance? On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but it wasn't free but I didn't pay what the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone. I bought it direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS comes out (eat your heart out Alex). But I don't chatter much on phones. I mainly communicate via email. BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk. Today I pay $30 a month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a month. Go figure. The plan is a prepay too (no contract). The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I just get their SIM card and install it. And the phone acts as a remote for the Chromecast. I have Medicare Part A only. I won't pay for the B part nor for supplemental. If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW). Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW. His salary is too damn high! We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum wage too. On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and it was free. Now that's better! When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only spending a few dollars every three months on his phone! Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes. LoL! The big problem is that the rent's too damn high! The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare' News8: http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is up; the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's Burger Joint! Go figure. Now, the medical insurance bill is going up? Not to mention fixing the price - so that younger people pay more to keep the premiums down for the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
Apparently Vaj and emptybill are not realizing the source of Maharishi's Seven States typology. Since emptybill is too busy gazing at his navel, let us review what we know about MMY's seven state consciousness typology: Everyone knows, Maharishi's Seven States are drawn directly from Mandukhya Upanishad. According to what I've read, the 'seven states of consciousness' have become the standard used by most gurus, teachers, and exponents of both eastern and western spiritual and wisdom teachings and consciousness expanding techniques, for example Swami Rama of the Himalayas. The Seven States typology is a well defined explanation of the different states of consciousness humans must develop in order to reach enlightenment. This Seven States typology is easy for TMers to understand - I don't know why Vaj and emptybill want to confuse you and make it seem complicated. Go figure. So, it's pretty obvious by now that neither emptybill nor Vaj can actually elucidate Maharishi's 'Seven States of Consciousness', otherwise they would have done so by now! So, for the benefit of some TMers and for the non-TMers on the forum, these are the Seven States of Consciousness enumerated by the MMY: 1. Waking State Consciousness 2. Dream State Consciousness 3. Dream State Consciousness 4. Transcendental Consciousness 5. Cosmic Consciousness 6. God Consciousness 7. Unity Consciousness On 10/14/2013 11:02 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Well Tea House ... You didn't say exactly when you were leaving but the link you provided was enough to assay the quality. Perhaps you didn't realized that I received training in Buddhism by Professor Alfonso Verdu. Under his tutelage, I received extensive teachings about Yogachara/Vijñanavada, Madhyamaka and HwaYen/Kegon. You also don't appear to realize that my current teacher is Younge Khachab Rimpoche VII, who is a Tibetan Khenpo-Geshe Rabjam and focuses particularly upon classical Mahayana, four and nine level Tantra, the Ganga Mahamudra of Tilopa/Naropa and the Dzogchen transmissions of Vimalamitra and Longchenpa. Khachab has stayed at my house and has been very generous with his personal teachings to me. I state it this way so you realize that I have been over this stuff before and don’t intend to waste time analyzing arguments by the like of Prairie Dog Willy or your blogging-friend Kevin Whatever. So sorry Ol' Tea House ... but the site only proffers old academic ideas long refuted and dismissed. Perhaps it all appeared clever to you but it only wasted my time. Glad though that you know who is and who is not enlightened. Perhaps you'll 'spanit to me because I do not find illumination in your undefined idea of 'lighten-mint' - which really only really means the /Germanic Aufklärung/. And don't gime more of MMY's 7 states. I was trained as a TM teacher and though it took me awhile to realize that he just made this stuff up, I certainly don’t intend to listen to it again. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Empty, I'm soon out of town, so no time now to give you a deserving answer. But since you like to pontificate with the voice of RAM aka James Swartz, I owe it to my close friend and Tiru resident Kevinanandaji, to expose you to his satirizing him. Here, take this, about your new found hero: http://chi-ting.blogspot.de/search/label/James%20Swartz%20%28Ram%29 (and don't take it too serious!) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Questioner:/So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement?/ Ram:Yes.Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become /jnanis/ as Ramana did.His lifestyle too, sitting in meditation in a cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic.The reason /yogis/ do not usually become /jnanis/ is because they have often been confused by the language of Yoga into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of /samadhi./So when the experience is ‘on’ they are not looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state permanent, /sahaja/.The joke is that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent experience.Furthermore, they do not realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in it … which is a dualistic state, not
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
Richard, either 2 or 3 should be sleep state of consciousness. Can't leave that out since maybe some people began TM to sleep better (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:26 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently Vaj and emptybill are not realizing the source of Maharishi's Seven States typology. Since emptybill is too busy gazing at his navel, let us review what we know about MMY's seven state consciousness typology: Everyone knows, Maharishi's Seven States are drawn directly from Mandukhya Upanishad. According to what I've read, the 'seven states of consciousness' have become the standard used by most gurus, teachers, and exponents of both eastern and western spiritual and wisdom teachings and consciousness expanding techniques, for example Swami Rama of the Himalayas. The Seven States typology is a well defined explanation of the different states of consciousness humans must develop in order to reach enlightenment. This Seven States typology is easy for TMers to understand - I don't know why Vaj and emptybill want to confuse you and make it seem complicated. Go figure. So, it's pretty obvious by now that neither emptybill nor Vaj can actually elucidate Maharishi's 'Seven States of Consciousness', otherwise they would have done so by now! So, for the benefit of some TMers and for the non-TMers on the forum, these are the Seven States of Consciousness enumerated by the MMY: 1. Waking State Consciousness 2. Dream State Consciousness 3. Dream State Consciousness 4. Transcendental Consciousness 5. Cosmic Consciousness 6. God Consciousness 7. Unity Consciousness On 10/14/2013 11:02 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Well Tea House ... You didn't say exactly when you were leaving but the link you provided was enough to assay the quality. Perhaps you didn't realized that I received training in Buddhism by Professor Alfonso Verdu. Under his tutelage, I received extensive teachings about Yogachara/Vijñanavada, Madhyamaka and HwaYen/Kegon. You also don't appear to realize that my current teacher is Younge Khachab Rimpoche VII, who is a Tibetan Khenpo-Geshe Rabjam and focuses particularly upon classical Mahayana, four and nine level Tantra, the Ganga Mahamudra of Tilopa/Naropa and the Dzogchen transmissions of Vimalamitra and Longchenpa. Khachab has stayed at my house and has been very generous with his personal teachings to me. I state it this way so you realize that I have been over this stuff before and don’t intend to waste time analyzing arguments by the like of Prairie Dog Willy or your blogging-friend Kevin Whatever. So sorry Ol' Tea House ... but the site only proffers old academic ideas long refuted and dismissed. Perhaps it all appeared clever to you but it only wasted my time. Glad though that you know who is and who is not enlightened. Perhaps you'll 'spanit to me because I do not find illumination in your undefined idea of 'lighten-mint' - which really only really means the Germanic Aufklärung. And don't gime more of MMY's 7 states. I was trained as a TM teacher and though it took me awhile to realize that he just made this stuff up, I certainly don’t intend to listen to it again. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Empty, I'm soon out of town, so no time now to give you a deserving answer. But since you like to pontificate with the voice of RAM aka James Swartz, I owe it to my close friend and Tiru resident Kevinanandaji, to expose you to his satirizing him. Here, take this, about your new found hero: http://chi-ting.blogspot.de/search/label/James%20Swartz%20%28Ram%29 (and don't take it too serious!) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Questioner: So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement? Ram: Yes. Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did. His lifestyle too, sitting in meditation in a cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic. The reason yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by the language of Yoga into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi. So when the experience is ‘on’ they are not looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state permanent, sahaja. The joke is
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
emptybill, thank you. I googled on Maharishi shruti smriti, in case you might enjoy: ‘And this invincible order—you want one more word to comprehend the invincible order? I give you one word more. And that is Smriti. “Smriti” is a word from the Vedic Literature. Smriti—we can hardly translate it, but nearest to that translation will be “memory”—memory. The administration of the universe through the Constitution of the Universe is carried out by one quality of intelligence, and that quality of intelligence is Smriti—memory, memory. ‘Where is this memory? See where is the memory. Memory will be in the point of infinity. The point has the memory of infinity; infinity has the memory of point. This memory determines the relationship of one with the other. And in this relationship is the law. The law—Shruti.Smriti gives rise to Shruti. Shruti is that which is heard; memory is that which is silent—memory. The point has the memory of infinity; infinity has the memory of point; unity has the memory of diversity; diversity has the memory of unity. This is Constitution of the Universe. ‘And on the functioning level, on the dynamic level—Smriti. What is the Sanskrit word for it? The Sanskrit word for the functioning of Smriti, the functioning of memory, is: Yatha purvam akalpayat. Yatha purvam akalpayat. Yatha purvam akalpayat This defines the functioning quality of the Constitution of the Universe: Yatha purvam akalpayat—“As it was before”. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:59 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Within the context of the discussion, shruti contains the realizations (seen/heard) of the rishi-s while smriti encompasses the recollections and ideas of the teachers of the traditions. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks Card. So at the end of the Gita when Arjuna says: I have regained memory, does he say shruti or smriti labdha? Not to make a pun, but I don't remember LOL. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:56 AM, cardemaister@... cardemaister@... wrote: smRti (memory) is mundane knowledge, shruti (hearing) is Divine Knowledge?? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, emptybill, it's been a long time since I heard about smriti and shruti and it looks like no one else is gonna ask so: what is the difference between them? On Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:41 AM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote: Questioner: So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement? Ram: Yes. Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did. His lifestyle too, sitting in meditation in a cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic. The reason yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by the language of Yoga into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi. So when the experience is ‘on’ they are not looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state permanent, sahaja. The joke is that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent experience. Furthermore, they do not realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can't Afford to Live
It's all a matter of placement and positioning. We've decided on building a pier and beam structure for our Yaqui Vastu dwelling. Now we are deciding on the location. Common sense says build in a southern climate to save on fuel bills - got to get solar and rainfall management as well. I know a guy in Hays County that collects all rainfall from the roof of his house, and then filters the rain water through activated charcoal for daily use. He's got a large tank sitting righ beside his house - works on gravity and water pressure. Sweet! So far, these are the places we've ruled out: 1. Detroit, MI 2. Deadwood, SD We are still considering building near Austin, TX, so we can walk to the grocery store at 6th and Lamar - World Headquarters for Whole Foods. So, that means our transportation needs will be greatly reduced. But, it all depends on your needs. If we are serious about the 'downshifting' we need to make some real radical changes. Go figure. On 10/15/2013 9:12 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/ Inline image 1
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Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!
This has to be a first. I don't think I could imagine anyone else on the planet saying this. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:20:32 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, all this is just making me so happy that I'm 65 and on Medicare! On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:30 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: So, the Obamacare PPACA looks like it may make you fill out all the personal information BEFORE you can see the insurance rates. That tells me they don't want you to see the rates because they are so high. If 50 million people are uninsured today, mainly because insurance is too expensive, why is it better to make coverage even costlier? And, you can't buy out of state insurance across state lines; and military dependents aren't covered by Tricare to age 26. And, the system just gets slower and slower every day. Go figure. People should be fired - throw the bums out! ObamaCare is one of the best reasons to vote Libertarianism in the next election. 'Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are' Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/ ' Obamacare Regs 30X Longer Than Law' http://www.cnsnews.com/ On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Ann Woelfle Bater awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Whine, whine, whine. I wish that damn US health care package would hurry up and get up and running 'cause then maybe we won't have to listen to all the fear mongering and complaining. Maybe if you stop calling it Obamacare you will start opening your mind a little and becoming more objective. So many who are against it are not fans of Obama so they label the health plan Obama such and such. Next it'll be Obamawar, Obamacrime, Obamapollution ... On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43:15 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Obanmcare was supposed to be Obama's signature legislation. He had plenty of time to get this right, but it's obvious Obama knows nothing about running a business or coding a program. He got Obamacare passed in the middle of the night, before anyone had even read it - not a single Repub voted for Obamacare. What's up with that? On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu, about the good idea of a maximum wage, I'd like to also suggest that for actors. I would also include athletes but their shelf life is shorter and they are much more susceptible to injuries. What will it take to bring the economy more into balance? On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but it wasn't free but I didn't pay what the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone. I bought it direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS comes out (eat your heart out Alex). But I don't chatter much on phones. I mainly communicate via email. BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk. Today I pay $30 a month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a month. Go figure. The plan is a prepay too (no contract). The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I just get their SIM card and install it. And the phone acts as a remote for the Chromecast. I have Medicare Part A only. I won't pay for the B part nor for supplemental. If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW). Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW. His salary is too damn high! We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum wage too. On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and it was free. Now that's better! When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only spending a few dollars every three months on his phone! Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes. LoL! The big problem is that the rent's too damn high! The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare' News8: http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is up; the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's
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Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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Now I am curious about this. A high rent district is unsustainable because it takes more energy to continue than it generates? I would have thought you might have meant the high cost of living in these expensive neighborhoods that seem to be, according to you, on the East and West Coasts of the USA were unsustainable because people were not going to be able to afford them soon. If that had been what you meant (and apparently it was not based on your post above) then I only would like to add that there will always be those who can afford expensive things. There will always be rich people who can maintain a lifestyle that includes multiple houses, expensive cars, expensive horses and lavish holidays. I really don't see the final days of expensive real estate or those who can afford to live there. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:33:30 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
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Paying for learning TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
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Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
Swami Bhaktivedanta, a Vedantin, enumerates the five classical states of consciousness which are similar to M: 1. Wakefulness (jagrat) 2. Dream state (svapna) 3. Deep sleep (sushupti) 4. Superconscious state (turiya) 5. Transcendent state (turiyatita) Also see: 'OM Mantra and 7 Levels of Consciousness' by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati http://www.swamij.com/om.htm#sevenstates On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Richard, either 2 or 3 should be sleep state of consciousness. Can't leave that out since maybe some people began TM to sleep better (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:26 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently Vaj and emptybill are not realizing the source of Maharishi's Seven States typology. Since emptybill is too busy gazing at his navel, let us review what we know about MMY's seven state consciousness typology: Everyone knows, Maharishi's Seven States are drawn directly from Mandukhya Upanishad. According to what I've read, the 'seven states of consciousness' have become the standard used by most gurus, teachers, and exponents of both eastern and western spiritual and wisdom teachings and consciousness expanding techniques, for example Swami Rama of the Himalayas. The Seven States typology is a well defined explanation of the different states of consciousness humans must develop in order to reach enlightenment. This Seven States typology is easy for TMers to understand - I don't know why Vaj and emptybill want to confuse you and make it seem complicated. Go figure. So, it's pretty obvious by now that neither emptybill nor Vaj can actually elucidate Maharishi's 'Seven States of Consciousness', otherwise they would have done so by now! So, for the benefit of some TMers and for the non-TMers on the forum, these are the Seven States of Consciousness enumerated by the MMY: 1. Waking State Consciousness 2. Dream State Consciousness 3. Dream State Consciousness 4. Transcendental Consciousness 5. Cosmic Consciousness 6. God Consciousness 7. Unity Consciousness On 10/14/2013 11:02 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Well Tea House ... You didn't say exactly when you were leaving but the link you provided was enough to assay the quality. Perhaps you didn't realized that I received training in Buddhism by Professor Alfonso Verdu. Under his tutelage, I received extensive teachings about Yogachara/Vijñanavada, Madhyamaka and HwaYen/Kegon. You also don't appear to realize that my current teacher is Younge Khachab Rimpoche VII, who is a Tibetan Khenpo-Geshe Rabjam and focuses particularly upon classical Mahayana, four and nine level Tantra, the Ganga Mahamudra of Tilopa/Naropa and the Dzogchen transmissions of Vimalamitra and Longchenpa. Khachab has stayed at my house and has been very generous with his personal teachings to me. I state it this way so you realize that I have been over this stuff before and don’t intend to waste time analyzing arguments by the like of Prairie Dog Willy or your blogging-friend Kevin Whatever. So sorry Ol' Tea House ... but the site only proffers old academic ideas long refuted and dismissed. Perhaps it all appeared clever to you but it only wasted my time. Glad though that you know who is and who is not enlightened. Perhaps you'll 'spanit to me because I do not find illumination in your undefined idea of 'lighten-mint' - which really only really means the *Germanic Aufklärung*. And don't gime more of MMY's 7 states. I was trained as a TM teacher and though it took me awhile to realize that he just made this stuff up, I certainly don’t intend to listen to it again. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Empty, I'm soon out of town, so no time now to give you a deserving answer. But since you like to pontificate with the voice of RAM aka James Swartz, I owe it to my close friend and Tiru resident Kevinanandaji, to expose you to his satirizing him. Here, take this, about your new found hero: http://chi-ting.blogspot.de/search/label/James%20Swartz%20%28Ram%29(and don't take it too serious!) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comwrote: Questioner: *So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to give some sort of context to his enlightement?* Ram: Yes. Now that Ramana is getting fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life, with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana fantasies. Anyway, Ramana’s type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga, although most yogis do not become *jnanis* as
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As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Chromebook
While Chromebooks are immune to viruses and other forms of malware, you are as tracked and 'monetized' while on a Chromebook as you are when browsing from your laptop or tablet or phone. However, there are ways to disrupt and confuse the trackers and my two favorite extensions these days are Disconnect Search (or Disconnect.me) that makes it impossible for Google to log your search activities and DoNotTrackMe which does what the name implies. Worth trying. - Amazon reviewer On 10/14/2013 8:39 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Everyone knows that you can't have two people at the same time edit a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet online with multiple data entry technicians. In fact, doing anything online with Microsoft Office is not nearly as easy as using Google Docs. Most of us are already are comfortable using online tools like Yahoo and Facebook. So, if you need a device that works on the cloud then, the Google Chromebook may be for you. All you have to do is log in using the Chrome browser and get to work. Amazon review: Google Docs allows individuals to use their on-line document, spreadsheet and presentation software free of charge and, even better, you can collaborate with up to 50 people on the same document, practically in real-time. Samsung Chromebook (Wi-Fi, 11.6-Inch)
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You know, If people don't pay a lot of money to learn TM they most certainly will not appreciate it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Paying for learning TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Hi John, Demi here. I have two emails on yahoo. I use different emails for different purposes, but let this one get overrun with spam and am cleaning it up and have inadvertently posted from this email a couple of times now, by mistake. I switched to Emily over a year ago now to protect my good name smile from public exposure. So, no, I'm not a TM'er. I did look up TM Centers and there is no reference to an address that would match the location you mention, not that that means anything. Locations for TM classes are identified in North Seattle and in Kirkland, WA. There is also a Bill Currie who appears to live in the area that comes up with a search as having gone to MUM, but that is a different spelling. There is a Bill Curry affiliated with TM who is in NJ and does massage. Sincerely, Em ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: dmevans, Yeah, that picture reminds me of the days when I was there. But by December, 2008, I was already living here in San Francisco. By the way, my TM teacher in Seattle was Bill Curry. Do you know if he's still active in the Movement? I remember the Center then was located at Linden Avenue near the Aurora Bridge. It was aligned with the proper vastu since it was facing east. But the house was old. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: I was living in Seattle then. But I usually spent my Christmas in San Francisco to spend the holidays with my parents when they were still alive. It was also my way of getting away from the cold weather. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Here's why: http://www.komonews.com/home/video/36413989.html http://www.komonews.com/home/video/36413989.html The next day I booked a room at the Holiday Inn because the morning of the 20th I was to fly down to the Bay Area. So I didn't want a follow-up storm (which did happen) make me miss my flight. On 10/14/2013 07:12 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Bhairitu, When I was living in Seattle, I noticed that a thin layer of snow would just about shut down the entire city. My old boss, back then, would let us go home when it started to snow. I thought that was very reasonable. Better be safe than sorry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And when I lived in Seattle and it snowed, I and other Subaru owners were about the only ones on the road. Front wheel drive. My Forester is All Wheel Drive but that axle costs mileage due to its weight. I can only think of one time the AWD came in handy and that was turning around on a road when I had to go off into mud and the Forester cut right through it like it wasn't even there. On 10/14/2013 03:18 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Share, We technically have four seasons over here. But it doesn't snow over here during the winter--which is just fine with me. When I was in Seattle, WA, I used to live on a hilly road. During the winter, the road became frozen with ice. And, I foolishly drove my car down the hill knowing that the car won't stop even if you put the brakes on. Luckily, I never got into an accident using that maneuver. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. And I do like 4 seasons. Do you all have four seasons? On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:50 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Share, That Zone sounds pretty cool. Everyone is welcome to move over here. We already have vastu houses in San Diego. But I don't know of anyone who has built one in the northern California area. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: And he's going to build a yaqui vastu house. Maybe he and Rita will invite you over so you can sit in the Zone of Tranquility (-: On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:18 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Probably the best thing to happen is for the US to collapse into one big dung heap. It's old and broken down. It's suffering a bad hangover from an artificial boom made to steal property from the middle class. It should break up into several countries with California combined with western Washington and Oregon one of them. We don't get the money we pay to the feds back anyway. The Red states are getting our money. Watching Jerry Brown he seems to be gearing up to the first Prime Minister of Ecotopia.
RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
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shucks, I thought Dale Evans had joined FFL and was sharing our antics with her hubby Roy (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:51 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
And, Om the middle-class, they spend money on the stupidest things like new smartphones or new F-150 pickup trucks when they don't need them. Harley Davidson motorcycles. Jeezus have you looked at the price of Harley Davidson motorcycles and noticed how many middle-class middle-agers are going down the road on them dressing and trying to look like the lower working classes they are not? What a wealthy bunch of spiritually ill-disciplined narcissistic people. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, If people don't pay a lot of money to learn TM they most certainly will not appreciate it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Paying for learning TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Share, you replied to the wrong conversation here. Oh yes, you know this don't you? Sharester, in general, as an observation, your attempts to obfuscate are obvious. Check it out! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: shucks, I thought Dale Evans had joined FFL and was sharing our antics with her hubby Roy (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:51 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
It is true, as a conservative meditator I simply do not feel that people are even paying enough to learn TM at $1,500. And, their slacker kids living at home with their parents too. I feel the TM movement could squeeze at least another thousand out of the new people coming to our Peace Palaces. It is important to have commitment or you end up like some of the quitters we see here. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And, Om the middle-class, they spend money on the stupidest things like new smartphones or new F-150 pickup trucks when they don't need them. Harley Davidson motorcycles. Jeezus have you looked at the price of Harley Davidson motorcycles and noticed how many middle-class middle-agers are going down the road on them dressing and trying to look like the lower working classes they are not? What a wealthy bunch of spiritually ill-disciplined narcissistic people. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, If people don't pay a lot of money to learn TM they most certainly will not appreciate it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Paying for learning TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence
I remember after I got the flying sutra, and had six months left to work for the Movement. Out near Waverly, MO, building the A of E Capital building, and growing apples and strawberries. The ag crew would all be hopping around on the foam, and I am not making this up, we attracted a little brown and white bunny rabbit, who would come into our converted garage during program, and watch us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Desperate for attention and revenue, the TMO pays yet another TM shill at the Huffington Post to trumpet the praises of grinning Bobby Roth and by extension sing the praises of the TM Movement and its core practice. In other news, a mouse ran across the toes of several TMSP'ers in the Ladies Dome during program - the shrieking and hopping about was mistakenly considered to be excellent effects of Patanjali's Golden Sutras. Even though the real cause of the commotion was eventually revealed, film and photos of the event are already being used to promote belief in yogic flying success. On Tue, 10/15/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... mailto:dickmays@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 12:01 PM This is an excellent article!Dick http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The Uncarved BlogKen Chawkin's articles poems: Transcendental Meditation, consciousness enlightenment« How TM helped calm and center a young woman’s busy mind—inspiring article in new Irish magazineRenowned (TM) meditation teacher Bob Roth featured on The Third Metric and HuffPost LiveHuffington Post Senior Writer Ann Brenoff profiled Bob Roth, Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation, an exemplary representative for The Third Metric: Redefining Success Beyond Money and Power.huff.to/1albfF9 (10/14/2013)Meditation Teacher To The Stars: His clients include Oprah, Russell Brand, Martin Scorcese and Dr. Oz, but renowned meditation teacher Bob Roth also serves low-income and under-served communities by sharing his passion: Transcendental Meditation.Bob Roth was also interviewed on @HuffPostLive: Stress Is The New Black Plague: Meditation guru Bob Roth @meditationbob joins host Nancy Redd @nancyredd to explain the benefits of meditation: Bob Roth Talks Transcendental Meditation @TMmeditation. Watch this lively interview http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 ( http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 (12:46).Bob Roth: Bringing Calm To The Center Of Life’s StormIf there was a perfect year in which to discover Transcendental Meditation, it might just have been 1968. That was the year that Bob Roth was a freshman at UC Berkeley — a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. He remembers living surrounded by helicopters spewing tear gas over student war protesters and Army tanks parked outside his front door. Demonstrations. Riots. Chaos.And against this backdrop, Roth did what many college students do: He took a part-time job. He sold scoops of ice cream at Swenson’s ice cream parlor, never expecting that amid the rush of pending social changes engulfing him, it would be at the ice cream shop where he would meet a guy who would ultimately alter the course of his life forever.The college crew at Swenson’s was the usual motley collection of hippies, straights and everything in between, recalls Roth. But one guy stood out: Peter Stevens. “He was like a quiet reflection pool amid the chaos,” recalls Roth, “and I was drawn to him.”“Peter was centered, energetic, super-smart, kind to all, easy-going, never agitated, with an ineffable calm about him,” Roth told The Huffington Post. He learned that Peter “meditated,” something that Roth said was a bit of a disconnect for him. “Meditation was not in my vocabulary.” But he was intrigued and curious, and went with Stevens to a class in Transcendental Meditation, a meditative practice derived from the ancient Vedic tradition in India. After just one class, Roth was hooked.Today, Roth is the executive director of the David Lynch Foundation, where he has helped bring Transcendental Meditation programs to more than 300,000 at-risk kids in 35 countries, as well as veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, and women and girls who are survivors of domestic violence. He’s also the national director of the Center for Leadership Performance, which introduces the TM program to business, industry and government organizations — and even some United Nations groups.Today,
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Federal Court Ruling SCI and TM a Religion
Buck wrote: (snip) I remember reading the court opinion written for the TM case. It was really well written and is actually worth reading. Don't know which court or which opinion you're talking about, the district court or the appeals court. I recommend the concurring opinion by Judge Adams in the appeal. It's an education in constitutional reasoning. It's in the Files section, in the Miscellaneous Writings folder. The filename is Malnak v. Yogi, Judge Adams's opinion.txt. I uploaded it some years ago. I've touted it on FFL and before that on alt.meditation.transcendental. Also see this FFL post from March 2009 that discusses some of the nuances: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/212845 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/212845 Did you see the link I posted to the Kingsley Brooks memo, by the way? You had said you couldn't find it in the archives.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
Consider yourself lucky, Ann. My property taxes are about $9000 per year, for an 1800 sq. ft., 65 year old house. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. Yes, he is subsidizing your children just as I subsidize all those children I don't have up here in Canada with my property taxes. So, it appears we both live in Socialistic countries after all. Unfortunately, my taxes are over $5000 per year for a 2900 sq foot house and a horse barn and hay barn. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/
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Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Made ya look! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, you replied to the wrong conversation here. Oh yes, you know this don't you? Sharester, in general, as an observation, your attempts to obfuscate are obvious. Check it out! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: shucks, I thought Dale Evans had joined FFL and was sharing our antics with her hubby Roy (-: On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:51 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Share: Hint, try explaining what you meant in a way that could be interpreted at face value. This..[Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end, especially for an aging population] makes no sense whatsoever. You made a pretty simple statement; you don't need to try and pretend it was rooted in scientific principle. Just explain what you were thinking at face value. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
Re: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
[FairfieldLife] Americans need to know exactly how backwards they are
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RE: Re: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Nope, that's no good either. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. What is keeping you from addressing the issue here? You must know you're not convincing anybody that you're even trying to deal with it. Is it fear? Are you afraid that if you do try to deal with it, you'll fail? Are you afraid you'll never understand what we're getting at? Is that why you keep tap-dancing away from it? One more time, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. Share wrote: Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
Smartphones aren't expensive anymore nor the calling plans. I have mentioned before how many big pickups I've seen around here which are probably penis extensions because they appear too have never been used to haul anything. Same with the big SUVs bought to feel safe in but not of much use if a big MAC truck hits it. I mentioned I have a Son of Anarchy wannabee in the neighborhood who races up and down the street. But here's a question for ya: does the TMO take credit cards? If they don't that's one more dumb move. On 10/15/2013 09:10 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *And, Om the middle-class, they spend money on the stupidest things like new smartphones or new F-150 pickup trucks when they don't need them. Harley Davidson motorcycles. Jeezus have you looked at the price of Harley Davidson motorcycles and noticed how many middle-class middle-agers are going down the road on them dressing and trying to look like the lower working classes they are not? What a wealthy bunch of spiritually ill-disciplined narcissistic people.* *-Buck* * * ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *You know, If people don't pay a lot of money to learn TM they most certainly will not appreciate it.* * * ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Paying for learning TM?* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore' http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing/2013/10/where-even-middle-class-cant-afford-live-any-more/7194/ Inline image 1
Re: Re: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Judy, I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. To me my point was obvious when I referred to an aging population. I think overly expensive housing is unsustainable for those living on fixed and low incomes. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:43 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Nope, that's no good either. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. What is keeping you from addressing the issue here? You must know you're not convincing anybody that you're even trying to deal with it. Is it fear? Are you afraid that if you do try to deal with it, you'll fail? Are you afraid you'll never understand what we're getting at? Is that why you keep tap-dancing away from it? One more time, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. Share wrote: Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an East Coast example, please.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Americans need to know exactly how backwards they are
Thank you, Barry, for letting Americans in on this disgraceful secret. We here on FFL have been wondering how to get the word out, but we never thought of just putting it in a post so all Americans could read it. You're a genius. Now that they all know how backwards [sic] they are, maybe they'll all just leave America and go to one of those other countries to live. (guffaw) Barry wrote: https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1385414_10151915751529805_1134352580_n.png https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1385414_10151915751529805_1134352580_n.png
RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
You must have meant more than that, Share. Overly expensive housing is unsustainable for anyone who doesn't have an overly high income. And of course it doesn't matter how old you are. Nobody needs to be convinced of that, nor does anyone even need to have the point made. It's a truism. Come on, now, you can do it. Give it another try. Share wrote: Judy, I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. To me my point was obvious when I referred to an aging population. I think overly expensive housing is unsustainable for those living on fixed and low incomes. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:43 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Nope, that's no good either. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. What is keeping you from addressing the issue here? You must know you're not convincing anybody that you're even trying to deal with it. Is it fear? Are you afraid that if you do try to deal with it, you'll fail? Are you afraid you'll never understand what we're getting at? Is that why you keep tap-dancing away from it? One more time, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. Share wrote: Judy, unsustainable as in reliance on fossil fuels because we're running out of them and they pollute horribly and they're expensive. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share, no, you're still just pulling crap out of your ass instead of dealing with what Emily, Ann, and I have been pointing out to you. You do not make yourself look clever when you do that, to the contrary. As Emily says, your attempts to obfuscate (including this one) are obvious. You aren't fooling anybody. And this isn't that hard to figure out. What will continue (or not)? If you can force yourself to think about that question, you may begin to see where the problem lies. Ann and Emily and I all gave you good hints. Share wrote: Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will continue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? Share wrote: Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet applied way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end. Share wrote: Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to continue than it generates. No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, you were making a prediction of some sort. Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, and hoping they make sense. Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't anything we need to be told. Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with: I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term. And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years ago). So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken literally. I wrote: OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high rent, it's high housing costs in general. Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? Share wrote: I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
so you are saying the folks who paid 35 to about 65 bucks in the 60's and 70's and still do TM don't appreciate what they got??? On Tue, 10/15/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 4:10 PM And, Om the middle-class, they spend money on the stupidest things like new smartphones or new F-150 pickup trucks when they don't need them. Harley Davidson motorcycles. Jeezus have you looked at the price of Harley Davidson motorcycles and noticed how many middle-class middle-agers are going down the road on them dressing and trying to look like the lower working classes they are not? What a wealthy bunch of spiritually ill-disciplined narcissistic people.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, If people don't pay a lot of money to learn TM they most certainly will not appreciate it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Paying for learning TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore'http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing//
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis
Hey, Emily Your research is excellent. Come to think of it, the correct spelling of his surname is Currie. I'm glad he's still living in the area. But I am aware that the TM center has moved several times in the city. Since I'm not living there anymore, I cannot attend any of their meetings or activities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi John, Demi here. I have two emails on yahoo. I use different emails for different purposes, but let this one get overrun with spam and am cleaning it up and have inadvertently posted from this email a couple of times now, by mistake. I switched to Emily over a year ago now to protect my good name smile from public exposure. So, no, I'm not a TM'er. I did look up TM Centers and there is no reference to an address that would match the location you mention, not that that means anything. Locations for TM classes are identified in North Seattle and in Kirkland, WA. There is also a Bill Currie who appears to live in the area that comes up with a search as having gone to MUM, but that is a different spelling. There is a Bill Curry affiliated with TM who is in NJ and does massage. Sincerely, Em ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: dmevans, Yeah, that picture reminds me of the days when I was there. But by December, 2008, I was already living here in San Francisco. By the way, my TM teacher in Seattle was Bill Curry. Do you know if he's still active in the Movement? I remember the Center then was located at Linden Avenue near the Aurora Bridge. It was aligned with the proper vastu since it was facing east. But the house was old. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: I was living in Seattle then. But I usually spent my Christmas in San Francisco to spend the holidays with my parents when they were still alive. It was also my way of getting away from the cold weather. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Here's why: http://www.komonews.com/home/video/36413989.html http://www.komonews.com/home/video/36413989.html The next day I booked a room at the Holiday Inn because the morning of the 20th I was to fly down to the Bay Area. So I didn't want a follow-up storm (which did happen) make me miss my flight. On 10/14/2013 07:12 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Bhairitu, When I was living in Seattle, I noticed that a thin layer of snow would just about shut down the entire city. My old boss, back then, would let us go home when it started to snow. I thought that was very reasonable. Better be safe than sorry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And when I lived in Seattle and it snowed, I and other Subaru owners were about the only ones on the road. Front wheel drive. My Forester is All Wheel Drive but that axle costs mileage due to its weight. I can only think of one time the AWD came in handy and that was turning around on a road when I had to go off into mud and the Forester cut right through it like it wasn't even there. On 10/14/2013 03:18 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Share, We technically have four seasons over here. But it doesn't snow over here during the winter--which is just fine with me. When I was in Seattle, WA, I used to live on a hilly road. During the winter, the road became frozen with ice. And, I foolishly drove my car down the hill knowing that the car won't stop even if you put the brakes on. Luckily, I never got into an accident using that maneuver. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly inexpensive place like FF. I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being unsustainable, especially for an aging population. And I do like 4 seasons. Do you all have four seasons? On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:50 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Share, That Zone sounds pretty cool. Everyone is welcome to move over here. We already have vastu houses in San Diego. But I don't know of anyone who has built one in the northern California area. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: And he's going to build a yaqui vastu house. Maybe he and Rita will invite you over so you can sit in the Zone of Tranquility (-: On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:18 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Probably the best thing to happen is for the US to collapse into one big dung heap. It's old and broken down. It's
[FairfieldLife] 48,000 TM teachers working for the public school system in Brazil?
It hasn't happened yet, and maybe it never will, but what if Raja Louis manages to pull it off? What will happen to Brazil once TM becomes a fully-supported elective in the public school system in every school in Brazil with at least one full-time TM teacher working at each public school? By fully supported, I mean that kids are given time during the school day to practice TM. L
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence
are you saying they let you take the sidhi program BEFORE you completed your work requirement to get it? If so that was mighty unusual. On Tue, 10/15/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 4:41 PM I remember after I got the flying sutra, and had six months left to work for the Movement. Out near Waverly, MO, building the A of E Capital building, and growing apples and strawberries. The ag crew would all be hopping around on the foam, and I am not making this up, we attracted a little brown and white bunny rabbit, who would come into our converted garage during program, and watch us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Desperate for attention and revenue, the TMO pays yet another TM shill at the Huffington Post to trumpet the praises of grinning Bobby Roth and by extension sing the praises of the TM Movement and its core practice. In other news, a mouse ran across the toes of several TMSP'ers in the Ladies Dome during program - the shrieking and hopping about was mistakenly considered to be excellent effects of Patanjali's Golden Sutras. Even though the real cause of the commotion was eventually revealed, film and photos of the event are already being used to promote belief in yogic flying success. On Tue, 10/15/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 12:01 PM This is an excellent article!Dick http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The Uncarved BlogKen Chawkin's articles poems: Transcendental Meditation, consciousness enlightenment« How TM helped calm and center a young woman’s busy mind—inspiring article in new Irish magazineRenowned (TM) meditation teacher Bob Roth featured on The Third Metric and HuffPost LiveHuffington Post Senior Writer Ann Brenoff profiled Bob Roth, Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation, an exemplary representative for The Third Metric: Redefining Success Beyond Money and Power.huff.to/1albfF9 (10/14/2013)Meditation Teacher To The Stars: His clients include Oprah, Russell Brand, Martin Scorcese and Dr. Oz, but renowned meditation teacher Bob Roth also serves low-income and under-served communities by sharing his passion: Transcendental Meditation.Bob Roth was also interviewed on @HuffPostLive: Stress Is The New Black Plague: Meditation guru Bob Roth @meditationbob joins host Nancy Redd @nancyredd to explain the benefits of meditation: Bob Roth Talks Transcendental Meditation @TMmeditation. Watch this lively interview http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 (12:46).Bob Roth: Bringing Calm To The Center Of Life’s StormIf there was a perfect year in which to discover Transcendental Meditation, it might just have been 1968. That was the year that Bob Roth was a freshman at UC Berkeley — a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. He remembers living surrounded by helicopters spewing tear gas over student war protesters and Army tanks parked outside his front door. Demonstrations. Riots. Chaos.And against this backdrop, Roth did what many college students do: He took a part-time job. He sold scoops of ice cream at Swenson’s ice cream parlor, never expecting that amid the rush of pending social changes engulfing him, it would be at the ice cream shop where he would meet a guy who would ultimately alter the course of his life forever.The college crew at Swenson’s was the usual motley collection of hippies, straights and everything in between, recalls Roth. But one guy stood out: Peter Stevens. “He was like a quiet reflection pool amid the chaos,” recalls Roth, “and I was drawn to him.”“Peter was centered, energetic, super-smart, kind to all, easy-going, never agitated, with an ineffable calm about him,” Roth told The Huffington Post. He learned that Peter “meditated,” something that Roth said was a bit of a disconnect for him. “Meditation was not in my vocabulary.” But he was intrigued and curious, and went with Stevens to a class in Transcendental Meditation, a meditative practice derived from the ancient Vedic tradition in India. After
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yaqui Vastu
Arcosanti is an experimental town and molten bronze bell casting community that has been developed by the Italian-American architect, Paolo Soleri, who began construction in 1970 in central Arizona... [image: Inline image 1] Using a concept he called arcology, he started the town to demonstrate how urban conditions could be improved while minimizing the destructive impact on the earth. He taught and influenced generations of architects and urban designers who studied and worked with him there to build the town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcosanti When it comes to building Green, it’s not just a matter of personal choice – it’s about a responsibility to our health and that of our children and to the planet itself in selecting sustainable materials and reducing energy and water demand. [image: Inline image 2] 'Why Historic vs. Contemporary?' eco+historical: http://ecohistorical.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/why-historic-vs-contemporary/ On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Years ago I was very impressed with the home designs of Buckminiter Fuller. I once visited Colorado to see solar, self sufficient homes. http://www.livingearthconstruction.com/ There's a nice house in San Antonio designed by the famous architect O'neil Ford: [image: Inline image 1] http://www.mysanantonio.com/outside-in-in-an-O-Neil-Ford-1369441.phphttp://www.mysanantonio.com/real_estate/article/Spaces-Bringing-the-outside-in-in-an-O-Neil-Ford-1369441.php Several years ago we drove up to Fairfield to look at some of the vastu designed homes. I've also looked at homes that employ Asian Feng Shui designs and we drove to New Mexico and Arizona to look around at places that have a Southwest design. According to what I've read, there's a lady down in Brazil that is building her house out of concrete. Has anybody ever wondered how much their home weighs? Go figure. Most people don't get to design their own dwelling - they buy or rent already built homes or apartments. I know a guy up in Austin that lives in a daub and wattle shack out on the road to erewhon - ever since his wife left him he does't even care about where he throws his dirty socks. LoL! So, Rita and I are designing our own house. It's going to be based on Yaqui Vastu principles. It's not complicated. The first thing you have to do is find a suituable place to build and then follow the natural flow of the physical terrain, so that you find a good balance of man-made and the natural landscape. The second thing you have to do is decide on pier and beam, or slab foundation. It's all about placement and positioning. So, what is Yaqui Vastu? Yaqui Vastu teaches alignment, placement, and the relationship of physical space in relation to man and nature. How we build our homes and how we set up the interior of our shelters has a dramatic impact on our way of living. An essential part of any vastu living home is a zone of tranquility.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence
It was a big project. We had maybe thirty guys getting the sidhis (citizens), and ten guvs, there. We were all into it - hard work, but actually watching it take shape was very cool. The citizens lived separately from the guvs, and we had a lot of freedom, because we were on a lot of open land. The citizens all did six months work, got the TMSP and completed another six months. Its not like we were all going to hoard our $25/mo. stipends together, and one night, hijack the one decent pickup truck on the farm, into Kansas City. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: are you saying they let you take the sidhi program BEFORE you completed your work requirement to get it? If so that was mighty unusual. On Tue, 10/15/13, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 4:41 PM I remember after I got the flying sutra, and had six months left to work for the Movement. Out near Waverly, MO, building the A of E Capital building, and growing apples and strawberries. The ag crew would all be hopping around on the foam, and I am not making this up, we attracted a little brown and white bunny rabbit, who would come into our converted garage during program, and watch us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Desperate for attention and revenue, the TMO pays yet another TM shill at the Huffington Post to trumpet the praises of grinning Bobby Roth and by extension sing the praises of the TM Movement and its core practice. In other news, a mouse ran across the toes of several TMSP'ers in the Ladies Dome during program - the shrieking and hopping about was mistakenly considered to be excellent effects of Patanjali's Golden Sutras. Even though the real cause of the commotion was eventually revealed, film and photos of the event are already being used to promote belief in yogic flying success. On Tue, 10/15/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 12:01 PM This is an excellent article!Dick http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The Uncarved BlogKen Chawkin's articles poems: Transcendental Meditation, consciousness enlightenment« How TM helped calm and center a young woman’s busy mind—inspiring article in new Irish magazineRenowned (TM) meditation teacher Bob Roth featured on The Third Metric and HuffPost LiveHuffington Post Senior Writer Ann Brenoff profiled Bob Roth, Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation, an exemplary representative for The Third Metric: Redefining Success Beyond Money and Power.huff.to/1albfF9 (10/14/2013)Meditation Teacher To The Stars: His clients include Oprah, Russell Brand, Martin Scorcese and Dr. Oz, but renowned meditation teacher Bob Roth also serves low-income and under-served communities by sharing his passion: Transcendental Meditation.Bob Roth was also interviewed on @HuffPostLive: Stress Is The New Black Plague: Meditation guru Bob Roth @meditationbob joins host Nancy Redd @nancyredd to explain the benefits of meditation: Bob Roth Talks Transcendental Meditation @TMmeditation. Watch this lively interview http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 ( http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 (12:46).Bob Roth: Bringing Calm To The Center Of Life’s StormIf there was a perfect year in which to discover Transcendental Meditation, it might just have been 1968. That was the year that Bob Roth was a freshman at UC Berkeley — a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. He remembers living surrounded by helicopters spewing tear gas over student war protesters and Army tanks parked outside his front door. Demonstrations. Riots. Chaos.And against this backdrop, Roth did what many college students do: He took a part-time job. He sold scoops of ice cream at Swenson’s ice cream parlor, never expecting that amid the rush of pending social changes engulfing him, it would be at the
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence
when I did that kind of gig at MIU, it was work the full period THEN get whatever course or technique you were going for - same when we were working for credit for the Sidhi Prep courses and even then the guvs were not going to give us our courses. On Tue, 10/15/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 7:09 PM It was a big project. We had maybe thirty guys getting the sidhis (citizens), and ten guvs, there. We were all into it - hard work, but actually watching it take shape was very cool. The citizens lived separately from the guvs, and we had a lot of freedom, because we were on a lot of open land. The citizens all did six months work, got the TMSP and completed another six months. Its not like we were all going to hoard our $25/mo. stipends together, and one night, hijack the one decent pickup truck on the farm, into Kansas City. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: are you saying they let you take the sidhi program BEFORE you completed your work requirement to get it? If so that was mighty unusual. On Tue, 10/15/13, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 4:41 PM I remember after I got the flying sutra, and had six months left to work for the Movement. Out near Waverly, MO, building the A of E Capital building, and growing apples and strawberries. The ag crew would all be hopping around on the foam, and I am not making this up, we attracted a little brown and white bunny rabbit, who would come into our converted garage during program, and watch us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Desperate for attention and revenue, the TMO pays yet another TM shill at the Huffington Post to trumpet the praises of grinning Bobby Roth and by extension sing the praises of the TM Movement and its core practice. In other news, a mouse ran across the toes of several TMSP'ers in the Ladies Dome during program - the shrieking and hopping about was mistakenly considered to be excellent effects of Patanjali's Golden Sutras. Even though the real cause of the commotion was eventually revealed, film and photos of the event are already being used to promote belief in yogic flying success. On Tue, 10/15/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM helps poor children, veterans with PTSD, and victims of domestic violence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 12:01 PM This is an excellent article!Dick http://theuncarvedblog.com/2013/10/14/renowned-tm-meditation-teacher-bob-roth-featured-on-the-third-metric-and-huffpost-live/The Uncarved BlogKen Chawkin's articles poems: Transcendental Meditation, consciousness enlightenment« How TM helped calm and center a young woman’s busy mind—inspiring article in new Irish magazineRenowned (TM) meditation teacher Bob Roth featured on The Third Metric and HuffPost LiveHuffington Post Senior Writer Ann Brenoff profiled Bob Roth, Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation, an exemplary representative for The Third Metric: Redefining Success Beyond Money and Power.huff.to/1albfF9 (10/14/2013)Meditation Teacher To The Stars: His clients include Oprah, Russell Brand, Martin Scorcese and Dr. Oz, but renowned meditation teacher Bob Roth also serves low-income and under-served communities by sharing his passion: Transcendental Meditation.Bob Roth was also interviewed on @HuffPostLive: Stress Is The New Black Plague: Meditation guru Bob Roth @meditationbob joins host Nancy Redd @nancyredd to explain the benefits of meditation: Bob Roth Talks Transcendental Meditation @TMmeditation. Watch this lively interview http://huff.lv/GZQpn9 (12:46).Bob Roth:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck
Another place to live that sucks is in a food desert. It's all a matter of placement and positioning. You live in a food desert, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, if the closest grocery store is at least one mile away — it's 10 miles in rural areas — and 20 percent of the residents in your census tract live at or below the federal poverty line, which is $22,350 for a family of four. A food desert is an area where affordable healthy food is difficult to obtain, except by a automobile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert [image: Inline image 1] Grocery Stores in Redmond Neighborhoods? http://redmondcity.blogspot.com/2011/06/grocery-stores-in-neighborhoods.html On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: ** You ain't seen nothing kid. Where I was born and brought up was voted the worst town in Britain! (Middlesbrough in the north-east of England.) Funny thing is, I don't resent the place and have quite fond memories of the people (friendly and bullshit-free), but I can't see me ever leaving London for anywhere except maybe New York, Berlin, Paris, Tokyo, . . . some metropolis. Perhaps I've just been corrupted. http://tinyurl.com/mywrn4 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Being a military brat, I've lived in some great places, and some places that sucked. One time I got stuck for a year in Valdosta, Georgia; another time I got stuck up in Lubbock, Texas. So, when we recently visited this place it reminded me of one of the towns I've lived in that sucked - back when I was seventeen. In this town there is a store called Dan's and a cafe called Pancho's. Go figure. When Rita and I were at Pancho's last weekend, we saw four guys sitting at a table, three dressed in plaid shirts, one wearing a cowboy hat, eating Tex-mex food and drinking beer from bottles. Now that's classy! Can't even get a date on Saturday night! That's because in places that suck, there are no unmarried women to date, and if there were, there's no place to go. LoL! [image: Inline image 1]
[FairfieldLife] Ritam
I had a ritam today - I saw myself in the Mother Divine and Purusha kitchens, putting about a pound and a half of streak o'lean in their mung dhal - I saw then all eat the dhal, with basmati rice of course and then every one of them got enlightened, thanks to me and streak o'lean.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Americans need to know exactly how backwards they are
According to the chart, Germany began, Universal Health Care, in 1941, under Hitler. I think I would've insisted on home treatment for any illnesses of mine, if that was OK with them... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thank you, Barry, for letting Americans in on this disgraceful secret. We here on FFL have been wondering how to get the word out, but we never thought of just putting it in a post so all Americans could read it. You're a genius. Now that they all know how backwards [sic] they are, maybe they'll all just leave America and go to one of those other countries to live. (guffaw) Barry wrote: https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1385414_10151915751529805_1134352580_n.png https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1385414_10151915751529805_1134352580_n.png
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[FairfieldLife] RE: The Federal Court Ruling SCI and TM a Religion
Thank you muchly. I was going to ask if anyone knew where to get that Malnak v. Yogi opinion. And yes, thanks also for that Kingsley Brooks memo about re-cert teachers lifestyle. I was thinking there was an earlier rougher file version that had more specifics to do with the Raja lifestyle. We are indebted to your facility to quick research things with depth. The scholar that delivered the paper on the CWLF was more interested in their shared-goods communal living arrangement in those years of the hippie communes in and outside of Berkeley. The hippies of course were hedonistic and the CWLF was emulating the early Christian community in commune then in 1960-70's trying to evangelize the hippies. It was an interesting paper that followed their Christian fragmentation through time. The TM court case they waged was parenthetical to the larger paper about the CWLF. I ran in to the scholar before his talk and in asking what he was presenting and he finding I am from communal TM Fairfield he brought up the thing about the lawsuit. I pointed out the importance of the jurisprudence of the opinion to him such that I bet he goes back and really looks at that court case now some more too. He knows about the TM case from the standpoint POV of the CWLF waging it. I should bet that the TM religion law suit will be subject of further scholarly study. It should be. -Buck Authfriend writes: Don't know which court or which opinion you're talking about, the district court or the appeals court. I recommend the concurring opinion by Judge Adams in the appeal. It's an education in constitutional reasoning. It's in the Files section, in the Miscellaneous Writings folder. The filename is Malnak v. Yogi, Judge Adams's opinion.txt. I uploaded it some years ago. I've touted it on FFL and before that on alt.meditation.transcendental. Also see this FFL post from March 2009 that discusses some of the nuances: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/212845 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/212845 Did you see the link I posted to the Kingsley Brooks memo, by the way? You had said you couldn't find it in the archives. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Initially the CWLF [ Christian World Liberation Front] kind of Christians came in to the TM case wanting to interrupt hedonisms and narcissisms of the hippie culture and new-agers but then with some bad taste in their mouths they had to come around to actually argue that TM was legitimate religion more than just hedonism and hence it should be thrown out of schools; arguing by bringing in all kinds of expert theologians and other scholars on religions to examine what religions are and thereby establish that SCI through TM was indeed a religion with a religious practice and ironically even on par with Christianity. They won the case in the extreme. The judge wrote an important opinion that stands in American jurisprudence. I was at a conference last week where a scholar presented a paper on the fragmentation of the CWLF during those 1960's-'70's years. Telling their larger story he incidentally referenced that TM court case as coming out of the CWLF. I spoke with him a little afterwards learning abou this. I remember reading the court opinion written for the TM case. It was really well written and is actually worth reading. -Buck in the Dome '68 Berkeley also the Christian World Liberation Front began as a mission to the city's radicals. CWLF going on to sue and win in New Jersey Federal Court the case defining Maharishi's Science of Creative Intelligence a religion and hence that TM should not be taught in publicly sponsored schools. It seems that the David Lynch Foundation under Roth has won that case in the end. Huzzah! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: '68 at UC Berkeley -- a campus considered Ground Zero for the anti-war movement and the cultural changes sweeping through the country at the time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: 1968 Transcendental Meditation with the following analogy: The surface of the ocean is waves and white caps. But deeper down, the ocean is still. How TM differs from other meditations, he says, is that it doesn't attempt to still the waves, but rather allow access to the stillness.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can#39;t Afford to Live
Dear MJ; Yes, working people back in that day of $3.35 an hour wages got a great deal then. However it is true the conservative meditator I here speak for feels deeply that people are not paying anywhere close to enough to learn TM at $1,500. And, the slacker kids living at home with their parents neither too. The TM movement could squeeze at least another thousand out of the new people coming to our Peace Palaces. It is extremely important to have commitment from new people as they start or you end up like some of the quitters we see here. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: so you are saying the folks who paid 35 to about 65 bucks in the 60's and 70's and still do TM don't appreciate what they got??? On Tue, 10/15/13, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Places You Can't Afford to Live To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 4:10 PM And, Om the middle-class, they spend money on the stupidest things like new smartphones or new F-150 pickup trucks when they don't need them. Harley Davidson motorcycles. Jeezus have you looked at the price of Harley Davidson motorcycles and noticed how many middle-class middle-agers are going down the road on them dressing and trying to look like the lower working classes they are not? What a wealthy bunch of spiritually ill-disciplined narcissistic people.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, If people don't pay a lot of money to learn TM they most certainly will not appreciate it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Paying for learning TM? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Housing 31 percent. Utilities on average? Groceries? Transportation. Payroll taxes about 30 percent, medical, clothing, raising kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Trulia ran these numbers based on the assumption that a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing (and that it must pay local property taxes and insurance). This data also assumes that a family makes a 20 percent down payment on a home – a daunting feat even on a six-figure income in somewhere like Los Angeles or New York. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, look how similar FF and San Antonio are: http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/fairfield_ia/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, using Sperling's to compare San Antonio, TX to Brewster, NY http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/san_antonio_tx/brewster_ny/costofliving On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure. According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of its pre-tax income on housing. Using those calculations, these 10 metros are the least affordable: 'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore'http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing// http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing//
[FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
See ya one and raise ya one ... Ann Woelfle Bater Today at 8:45 AM Well I-Went-to-Empty-the-Trash-and-I-Only-Got-As-Far-As-the-Door, you probably didn't realize my tutelage was all at the hands of Inowitall Andudont and therefore I could run circles around your supposed knowledge on all of this. Currently, my teacher (you may have heard of her, she is the one and only Celestial Moody) and she focuses primarily on the Sovlakian Gangnum Style Romoulade cooking most favoured by Gypsy fire eaters. I am happy to provide some reading material if you care to expand your horizons. You appear to have spent an inordinate amount of time perusing the bargain section in your local book store and dwelling far to deeply into the make believe world of men - so many men. I guarantee that a woman's POV might prove fascinating for you (as I know all of my posts to you have left you further enlightened) and Ms Moody is jus the woman for the job.
[FairfieldLife] RE: 48,000 TM teachers working for the public school system in Brazil?
A consciousness gap! An ensuing consciousness race! I don't think we can afford to let a bunch of Brazilians over take us in the area of development of consciousness and its corollary, the [ME] Meissner Effect. !Meditators Unite! Our North American Rajas need to do something immediately about this evolution of things. Like drop immediately the price of learning TM in all of North America now to be in range of all working class people. $75 for working adults, $35 for students, and grants to the disabled living in poverty. It is time now for all peoples and all meditators of North America to come forward and Be in group meditations to avert the danger before it comes. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It hasn't happened yet, and maybe it never will, but what if Raja Louis manages to pull it off? What will happen to Brazil once TM becomes a fully-supported elective in the public school system in every school in Brazil with at least one full-time TM teacher working at each public school? By fully supported, I mean that kids are given time during the school day to practice TM. L
[FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: See ya one and raise ya one ... Ann Woelfle Bater Today at 8:45 AM Well I-Went-to-Empty-the-Trash-and-I-Only-Got-As-Far-As-the-Door, you probably didn't realize my tutelage was all at the hands of Inowitall Andudont and therefore I could run circles around your supposed knowledge on all of this. Currently, my teacher (you may have heard of her, she is the one and only Celestial Moody) and she focuses primarily on the Sovlakian Gangnum Style Romoulade cooking most favoured by Gypsy fire eaters. I am happy to provide some reading material if you care to expand your horizons. You appear to have spent an inordinate amount of time perusing the bargain section in your local book store and dwelling far to deeply into the make believe world of men - so many men. I guarantee that a woman's POV might prove fascinating for you (as I know all of my posts to you have left you further enlightened) and Ms Moody is jus the woman for the job.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Dear MJ; Yes, working people back in that day of $3.35 an hour wages got a great deal then. However it is true the conservative meditator I here speak for feels deeply that people are not paying anywhere close to enough to learn TM at $1,500. And, the slacker kids living at home with their parents neither too. The TM movement could squeeze at least another thousand out of the new people coming to our Peace Palaces. It is extremely important to have commitment from new people as they start or you end up like some of the quitters we see here. -Buck I think you may be missing something Buck. I am meditating in my fifth decade. Even after adjusting for inflation by current U.S. Government measures, the price I paid for TM was less than US$500 in current value. To continue with meditation, you have to have some kind of deep desire beyond simply thinking that some mental technique is going to solve all your problems, because it does not work out that way. Something has to motivate beyond feeling better because some situations may arise where you simply do not feel well at all, and one can go through periods where it really does not seem to be doing anything at all. When somebody is taught a technique I would say there is a 10 to 20 percent chance they will continue. This happened in my family, and in the family of friends, and in the few research papers that mentioned such data. It is not that people are slackers. For one thing our culture does not support meditation that well in spite of its being more in common awareness than previously. Another factor is the illusions the mind has. It affects groups and groups that teach meditation inevitably become weird in some way, particularly if religiosity is a part of the philosophy of the group. TM has always tried to hide its religiosity, but it oozes through the cracks so much you can almost drown in it. People have very strong religious delusions and when faced with a religiosity that is contrary to what they are emotionally programmed with, they may quit just for that reason alone. Basically you have to be kind of crazy to continue with meditation, there has to be something that pushes you forward, something you sense behind the bizarre character of the whatever system of 'enlightenment' you have fallen into that seems somehow 'true'. It is not something that can be quantified. There is a curiosity that one needs about this, not an entrenched belief that one is on a royal path to a nirvana. No belief can stand in the face of this curiosity if one is to 'succeed'; all beliefs will eventually be blown away. As Maharishi said, words of ignorance to remove ignorance. All the verbal knowledge in the movement are words of ignorance. Rightly applied they may work for you up to a point, but at some point they have to go, and it is up to the individual how they handle or fail to handle the transition. Most of the people that want to help you along on the path are going to help you fail because they failed to make that transition. I believe M said at least CC was possible for everyone with TM, but CC is not enlightenment. That means a lot of people are going to fail, and they will not help you along your way; they will become an active force against your progress unless you know how to brush them aside and stay on purpose. You are one of those sorts that needs to be brushed aside. Maybe in years to come that will not longer be true, but right now you are an anachronism. People may stop short of 'enlightenment', short of awakening simply because it seems progress is no longer happening - they may be right on the cusp. As one Zen master said, you may not be aware of your own enlightenment. You may not sense how close you are because everything seems flat, or simply have become so saturated with the spiritual environment you can't stand it anymore and need a hiatus for a while so what has occurred can sink in and gestate for a while before you can again move on. Remember Buck, the Meissner effect is electromagnetic; it is just a verbal analogy that ties it with the supposed Maharishi Effect, the latter which has no scientific standing outside of the TM movement's proclamations. Pushing pseudoscience as fact does no service to meditation except in the minds of idiots and the uniformed. It is not the money that keeps people meditating. For the wealthy $1500 is pocket change, and they can discard meditation as easily as a pair of shoes that do not fit. The movement has an elitist mentality, and if it cannot appeal to the masses as it did in the 1960s and 1970s, it will simply become yesterday's news, and some other system will for a time, perhaps, find itself in the spotlight.
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