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e Xeno, there have been a few times when I have somehow snuck past all the *sleeping elephants* and experienced pure love or something very close to it. It is a way of being that is in perfect harmony with the world and all of its big and little details. It is all forms of human, conditional love happening at the same time so that its unconditional nature shines through. At that level of life, Being, Truth and Love form a trinity of experience, effortlessly eradicating all differences. And at the same time celebrating them! Yeah, pure love, in my experience is chock full of all kinds of paradoxes. One of them is that it is both process and state at the same time. It is both empty and full. It is darkness and light, masculine and feminine. Pure love both enslaves us and liberates us. And it lovingly laughs at my attempting to describe it in words! Pure love says yes to every no. A friend of mine said that and it fits my experience. Can an experience, no matter how sublime, be That which includes and surpasses all experience? Probably not. Maybe that experience is just the builder of another prison in my individuality, another prison which I must tear apart with my own hands. Or which life will tear down for me, out of love for me. And what about God in all this love business? I think what I experienced was the impersonal God. My experiences of personal God are conditioned by my Catholic upbringing and includes the full range from the Old Testament vengeful God to the agape of Christ, healing and forgiving and dying for my sins, Himself feeling cut off from His divinity when on the cross to the image of God as Brahman playing peek a boo with maya. Finally, maybe the last paradox: pure love isn't bothered about being pure or conditioned, directed towards self or other. It just is and is and is and is to the farthest reaches of the universe. I think you're right: we are it and have always been. All of this is just a lila rising up lovingly from all that isness. But I could be wrong. On Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:45 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't know. What is the difference between 'love' and 'pure love'? When people fall in love, they tend to be, for a while, enslaved by that feeling because ego becomes subdued. When one loves, though, there is a flow from subject to the perceived object, but I am not clear on what 'purity' means here. I do not see how loving can enslave anything. Obsession can enslave its object. But loving enslaves the subject that perceives the object. Can one love something completely abstract, like pure consciousness? There does not seem to be anything there for flow to occur. God so loved the world he killed his kid. Now on a human level that is just murder. People are always killing the object of their love, if that focus on the object is not returned by the object. One could take this metaphorically and say something like the universe itself is so in love with itself that it has provided a trap door into which an individual falls and dies becoming in their own awareness the universe itself. That trap door is whatever spiritual path one has chosen, provided it accomplishes that end. Can pure being, which has no definition be considered love? For love to occur some emptiness must exist to be filled, so it seems to me love is not a thing or a state but a process of becoming and is not therefore 'pure' in any sense. But as I do not know the answer to this I can take suggestions. I have never been into bhakti , it is totally unnatural for me, so love of guru or some supposed sacred something would never appeal and never has appealed to me. However one always experiences a flow in the direction of what one likes, so devotion is really a part of anything that appeals to one, in greater or lesser degree, so devotion is not really a path, it is what allows one to stay on whatever path is their path. To my mind, teachers that hawk devotion as a path are trying to package obedience to their wishes thwarting the natural process of flow. Students do admire and sometimes love their teachers, and as long as the teacher does not artificially try to foster that and just gives the students what they need to succeed, I think that is fine. The goal is not to venerate the teacher but to live, understand, and even improve upon what the teacher knows. This tends not to happen in religion, where the situation devolves into focusing on the character of the teacher rather than on what teacher wanted them to know. Does god love? If god is defined as wholeness, then god is complete and has no need of anything, being everything, and why would that be love? There is YHWH in the Torah, who in human terms could hardly be called loving. We throw people in prison today, for doing what YHWH does in the Bible. YHWH in the Bible is not an abstract being, but rather just a magnification of very human
[FairfieldLife] The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
I recently escaped death, again. I had a small head cold that went to bronchitis in to a pneumonia. I sat with the pneumonia for a while. I stopped going to the Dome meditation that I sounded so bad. My voice went from lyric tenor to basso profundo. I was getting real sick. I felt okay in a way enough to hobble around and keep doing my farm chores. I could still compose and edit to post on FFL. But then the disease got worst again and I capitulated and got some antibiotic; that right away knocked the lung infection back. They say I am not longer infectious but I do still sound really bad with [dramatic] effect. I am torn about going to the Dome to meditate. The Dome numbers are really so low should I go anyway? In the case of the aggregate numbers the numbers factored in group Meissner Effect meditation [ME] is more important to the particular individual. The US Marines leave no body behind. Of course when I was really infectious with the head cold and bronchitis had I gone then when I knew I was really infectious I would have brought the aggregate numbers down. But now while I sound bad but could add to the numbers. What would the group have me do now?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Neo-Vedanta, Maya, Two Vidya-s and Bhakti
Welcome to the new Americ.ass. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Newark or Trenton? I gotta know to avoid the stink. Newark. A guide book I took with me when I last visited New York said that seeing Newark was like seeing what the world would look like after a nuclear war. I decided to drive through just to take a peek and got completely lost. It was summer and the entire populace was milling about on the pot-holed streets. As night fell I hit a poverty-stricken Hispanic area and as I was a Caucasian and driving a rental car I felt like I had a neon sign on the car roof saying: Mug me. I'm a Tourist. I kept ending up on dead-end streets and having to slowly do a U-turn while being stared at by the natives who were clearly wondering who the stranger was. It's hard to get across my state of mind but I was genuinely frightened; I was literally shaking with fear. It felt like the scene from Tom Wolfe's Bonfire of the Vanities. I felt such relief when I finally saw a cop and was able to ask him how to get out and back to the Big Apple. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Newark or Trenton? I gotta know to avoid the stink. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: However, which part of the universe would be Brahman’s ass-hole? New Jersey ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: TeaParty: If you ask a traditionalist like Dayananda, he will deny that Ramana had reached the highest level, because he didn't really learn the vedantic scriptures, like the Brahma Sutras, from an authorized teacher! Ramana was at the intersection of Traditional Vedanta and Neo-Vedanta. He emphasized the importance of “experience” (neo-vedanta) along with yoga (atma-vichara). All that places him in the lineage of Yogic-Advaita (Vidyaranya, et al.) and not in Shankara’s traditional method. Both Dayananda and Swartz explain the teachings of Shankara while still maintaining a clear demarcation of them from the yoga-darshana. Shankara considered the purpose of yoga to be creating purity of heart and clarification of the intellect in preparation for âtma-jñâna. TeaParty: Kevala Advaita, mark my words, is not a philosophy, it is just a teaching device. And it is not complete in itself. To say that the world is maya, unreal, and then urge people to follow this teaching, in order to save them from this very maya, is a contradiction in itself. Maya means measuring. For Shankara, Maya connotes the veil of appearances that seem to measure the immeasurable. Maya is appearances presenting themselves as independent. What is it that Maya actually measures? It measures the distinction between appearances and reality (Brahman). In truth, the doctrine of Maya simply says that anything that seems different from Brahman (and thus stands on its own) does not do so but rather presents a distorted picture of Brahman itself. However, for your part you are simply spouting off the same old misunderstandings of Advaita (such as Ramanuja’s claim that “mayavada is a doctrine of illusion”). For Ramanuja himself, the world (jagat) is eternally existent as a part of the body (sharira) of Brahman. Such nice speculation. However, which part of the universe would be Brahman’s ass-hole? TeaParty: What Swartz misses is that in traditional Advaita, there are two types of knowledge, higher and lower. Traditionally, the lower knowledge is the Veda, the Higher is the Vedanta, the end of the Veda. Now you, and he, juxtapose yoga/meditation to Vedanta. Wrong, according to tradition you have to go through the lower knowledge, in olden times the vedic rituals, so that you are purified enough, to receive the higher knowledge, the Vedanta. Shankara’s commentary on BS I.ii.21 points out that the divisions into lower and higher knowledge (vidya) are according to the results of each particular knowledge. To give a synopsis: karma-vidya is for prosperity and felicity while jñâna-vidya is for freedom/liberation. The karma-vidya of the Rg-veda deals with the elements of the yajña along with the roles of the sacrificial officiants. Consequently, it is upon this very sacrifice that they place their faith for obtaining the bliss of the heavens. This in spite of the obvious – that all the constituents (and the sacrificers themselves) are perishable because of their fragility. This ignorantly misplaced reliance upon the hope of heavenly bliss only results in repeated old age and death. Thus, the karma-vidya can only commence the entry towards the jñâna-vidya and presents itself to eulogize the ultimacy of the higher knowledg. Those who are competent for the higher vidya are those who reject the necessity of the karma-vidya because of its transience. Examining the higher worlds acquired by this lower knowledge, they realize that everything which exists at all is a result of karma. Thus
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I recently escaped death, again. I had a small head cold that went to bronchitis in to a pneumonia. I sat with the pneumonia for a while. I stopped going to the Dome meditation that I sounded so bad. My voice went from lyric tenor to basso profundo. I was getting real sick. I felt okay in a way enough to hobble around and keep doing my farm chores. I could still compose and edit to post on FFL. But then the disease got worst again and I capitulated and got some antibiotic; that right away knocked the lung infection back. They say I am not longer infectious but I do still sound really bad with [dramatic] effect. I am torn about going to the Dome to meditate. The Dome numbers are really so low should I go anyway? In the case of the aggregate numbers the numbers factored in group Meissner Effect meditation [ME] is more important to the particular individual. The US Marines leave no body behind. Of course when I was really infectious with the head cold and bronchitis had I gone then when I knew I was really infectious I would have brought the aggregate numbers down. But now while I sound bad but could add to the numbers. What would the group have me do now?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: OMG Leipzig!
OK, that wouldn't have been Sousa's music, then. Buck wrote: Which war? Om, you know that one that freed the slaves and brought more equal rights to all those people. Yep, and brass music like http://1stbrigadeband.org/website/audio/13Cavalry.mp3 http://1stbrigadeband.org/website/audio/13Cavalry.mp3 http://www.1stbrigadeband.org/website/audio/9CruelWar.mp3 http://www.1stbrigadeband.org/website/audio/9CruelWar.mp3 Having a war horse is an amazing and special thing. Taking a horse in to war is an incredible thing to ask. Not just any horse can do it. Occasionally a horse comes along that has a head and heart for the soldiering. When you get a good horse trained up to it as a seasoned campaigner veteran is particularly special. To the point where they even know the evolution of the drill; http://www.icelandichorse.info/cavalrydrillsheet.html http://www.icelandichorse.info/cavalrydrillsheet.html Buck wrote: (snip) I always like the fife and drum of our revolutionary war and the Sousa kinds of brass and drums of the war of the rebellion. Which war of the rebellion would that be? Sousa was born in 1854. (I'm a huge Sousa fan myself. Stars and Stripes Forever just makes me swoon with its wonderful in-your-face American brashness.) I enjoyed the rest of your post. Fortunately you haven't had to kill anybody. They quicken my step and lift my heart. I spent a lot of life on picket in the cavalry on horse. Been a lot of places, ridden a lot of battle lines and been in a lot of battle lines. Slept out on the ground a lot with my feet to a fire and with my horse's reins tied to my hand. Been rained on and snowed on in the saddle a lot. I have marveled at the Swiss mountain troops with their guns at home, troops with their mountain horses kept on call at home, I've walked their tank traps across their frontiers. I flew out once over our National Cemetery at Luxembourg that Patton layed out but never got to tour much else in Europe other than finding the Michelangelo Pietas around Italy one time after an ATR course with Maharishi. Made it to the Sistine. That leaning tower. Other than that I have not been off the farm much. I have ridden my horse in the sunken lanes at both Antietem and Frederickberg. Ridden the battle line at Gettysburg. Ridden Jockey Hollow with Washington and Valley Forge too. I was in saddle at the battle line at Prairie Grove. Rode the length of the battle line that Lyon laid out at Wilson's Creek. Rode up telegraph road and the heights at Pea Ridge. Was in the charge of Elkhorn Tavern. Screened the horse drawn artillery at Carthage. Cross the river at Athens and supported the charge there. In the saddle at Perryville. Been on some bunch of long scouts in force. The retreat of the army at Brice's Cross roads. A couple of my best war horses are gone now. I got one left that has been with me everywhere. He's seen everything. Sunday evening and time now to go sing old hymns, -Buck in time of Peace right now
[FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique
Zenos the stranger: While you have that almost daemon-like entity in the Torah, you also have more abstract versions of god in Cabbalah, Jewish esoteric interpretations of scripture, which are much more in line with what people who seek enlightenment are engaged in. Don’t know where “almost” fits since YHVH is the actual daimon of the Jewish tribes. You don’t seem to conjoin the seemingly diverse facts … daimon, karma, incarnation. Think about it for a moment. 1. YHVH-daimon sets himself up as the Mafiosi of the Jews. He then orders the assault and destruction of 60 walled towns and cities and the slaughter of all the inhabitants (including the babies and children). That was just to get started. Institutes an “obey or die” rule among his followers and then orders the seizure of all remaining property (found anywhere). 2. The karma is dark and tamasic, throwing the YHVH-daimon downward among his followers in the very place they committed his murders. 3. Incarnated among them, he gets seized, judged, tortured and killed for claiming to be above the Law. Now a powerless human still claiming to be the ruler himself he get his reward – seeing what it feels like to be a slaughter innocent. 4. Gets deified by Hellenized goya and portrayed as a “Universal Godhead” just like his daimon essence was by the jews. Case closed.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I recently escaped death, again. I had a small head cold that went to bronchitis in to a pneumonia. I sat with the pneumonia for a while. I stopped going to the Dome meditation that I sounded so bad. My voice went from lyric tenor to basso profundo. I was getting real sick. I felt okay in a way enough to hobble around and keep doing my farm chores. I could still compose and edit to post on FFL. But then the disease got worst again and I capitulated and got some antibiotic; that right away knocked the lung infection back. They say I am not longer infectious but I do still sound really bad with [dramatic] effect. I am torn about going to the Dome to meditate. The Dome numbers are really so low should I go anyway? In the case of the aggregate numbers the numbers factored in group Meissner Effect meditation [ME] is more important to the particular individual. The US Marines leave no body behind. Of course when I was really infectious with the head cold and bronchitis had I gone then when I knew I was really infectious I would have brought the aggregate numbers down. But now while I sound bad but could add to the numbers. What would the group have me do now?
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I recently escaped death, again. I had a small head cold that went to bronchitis in to a pneumonia. I sat with the pneumonia for a while. I stopped going to the Dome meditation that I sounded so bad. My voice went from lyric tenor to basso profundo. I was getting real sick. I felt okay in a way enough to hobble around and keep doing my farm chores. I could still compose and edit to post on FFL. But then the disease got worst again and I capitulated and got some antibiotic; that right away knocked the lung infection back. They say I am not longer infectious but I do still sound really bad with [dramatic] effect. I am torn about going to the Dome to meditate. The Dome numbers are really so low should I go anyway? In the case of the aggregate numbers the numbers factored in group Meissner Effect meditation [ME] is more important to the particular individual. The US Marines leave no body behind. Of course when I was really infectious with the head cold and bronchitis had I gone then when I knew I was really infectious I would have brought the aggregate numbers down. But now while I sound bad but could add to the numbers. What would the group have me do now? I'm not really sure a head cold then bronchitis and pneumonia are related to the flu. Having a flu shot would have not prevented you from getting sick this time because you started out with a cold virus, not the flu. Complications can arise from the flu but since flu shots only cover about 15% of the germs out there I don't get them (but we've all had this conversation at FFL before.) Go to the dome, you aren't contagious anymore and if you stay home all you'll do is fret anyway.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Yeah, you really poked the Fairfield vegie health nut cultist TMers in the eye with that story about eating the pigs and hog skins where you're from. Good work! But, everyone knows they raise lots of hogs in North Carolina and up there in Iowa. And, everyone knows they eat cow heads down in San Antonio. So what? The only question is, do you eat GM hogs? LoL! Richard, you're such a goink. You laugh at the stupidest self-made 'jokes'. Talk about a waste of band width or whatever it is you're concerned with. So far you haven't done anything but confirm my opinion of Texas and those who dwell there. On 10/19/2013 3:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: that was great Doc! and in my opinion this quote If I were forced to explain their longevity, I would have to say that I believe they remain in business primarily because of the cult school up the road is what most of the world thinks of MUM and the Movement. On Sat, 10/19/13, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 7:48 PM Mango D. - LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG, this is hilarious! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Thank you Doc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I decided to check out the FF food scene, using Yelp. This set of reviews is hilarious: Thai Deli 120 West Broadway Fairfield, IA Review from Mango D., Las Vegas, NV 9/16/2006 5.0 star rating This stuff is like crack when we come to town. Make sure you come in when it is fresh. (After dome is good) We cant get enough of the creamy coconut potato dish. And the tofu and squash dish as well. They both go great mixed with the fried rice. The noodles are good sparingly when super fresh. I cannot find anything like this in California. Sigh... Fairfield, must you taunt me so! Review from Nicholas J. San Francisco, CA 1/12/2010 1.0 star rating. The reason you'll never find a Thai restaurant like this in California is because you can usually find actual Thai people voluntarily living in the coastal regions of the country, and very few of them are likely to express an interest in consuming the watered-down Grandy's buffet slop this dismal little cafeteria tries to pass off as an exotic Asian experience. If I were forced to explain their longevity, I would have to say that I believe they remain in business primarily because of the cult school up the road--an institution which seems to supply them with a steady stream of stoned Dave Matthews fans, all of whom would be lucky to successfully locate Thailand on a map after hyperventilating through the magic levitation classes their hippie parents pay for just because John Lennon told them to in a dream. Review from Max S. Fairfield, IA 5/24/2009 2.0 star rating It's dirt cheap but man does the food blow. Review from Will M. Seattle, WA 7/23/2010 1.0 star rating They nickname this place Thai Smelly. It's small town Midwest buffet meets new age crowd. Absolutely awful food. It's dirt cheap for a reason. I mean honestly, I don't know how this place survives - I wouldn't eat here if it was free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard first mentioned the food deserts concept on Tuesday. It took you until today, Saturday, to decide that Fairfield was a food oasis? It's funny, because even though I don't live in Fairfield, it would have taken me about two seconds to figure out it was a food oasis. Share wrote: Richard, I've been thinking about this concept of food deserts since you first posted it. I think we have an oasis here in FF! I could definitely walk to our local health food store though it would take about 15 to 20 minutes. There is another one on campus just outside the women's Dome so that's also a possibility. We have a locally owned convenience store/gas station, Logli's and Iowa has a chain of them called Kum N Go. Oh and Farmers Market twice a week so people can buy fresh, buy local. Yay Fairfield!
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck
So far you haven't done anything but confirm my opinion of Texas and those who dwell there. You have to admit it's kind of fun to poke people in the eye with where they live. Good work! On 10/21/2013 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Yeah, you really poked the Fairfield vegie health nut cultist TMers in the eye with that story about eating the pigs and hog skins where you're from. Good work! But, everyone knows they raise lots of hogs in North Carolina and up there in Iowa. And, everyone knows they eat cow heads down in San Antonio. So what? The only question is, do you eat GM hogs? LoL! Richard, you're such a goink. You laugh at the stupidest self-made 'jokes'. Talk about a waste of band width or whatever it is you're concerned with. So far you haven't done anything but confirm my opinion of Texas and those who dwell there. On 10/19/2013 3:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: that was great Doc! and in my opinion this quote If I were forced to explain their longevity, I would have to say that I believe they remain in business primarily because of the cult school up the road is what most of the world thinks of MUM and the Movement. On Sat, 10/19/13, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 7:48 PM Mango D. - LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG, this is hilarious! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Thank you Doc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I decided to check out the FF food scene, using Yelp. This set of reviews is hilarious: Thai Deli 120 West Broadway Fairfield, IA Review from Mango D., Las Vegas, NV 9/16/2006 5.0 star rating This stuff is like crack when we come to town. Make sure you come in when it is fresh. (After dome is good) We cant get enough of the creamy coconut potato dish. And the tofu and squash dish as well. They both go great mixed with the fried rice. The noodles are good sparingly when super fresh. I cannot find anything like this in California. Sigh... Fairfield, must you taunt me so! Review from Nicholas J. San Francisco, CA 1/12/2010 1.0 star rating. The reason you'll never find a Thai restaurant like this in California is because you can usually find actual Thai people voluntarily living in the coastal regions of the country, and very few of them are likely to express an interest in consuming the watered-down Grandy's buffet slop this dismal little cafeteria tries to pass off as an exotic Asian experience. If I were forced to explain their longevity, I would have to say that I believe they remain in business primarily because of the cult school up the road--an institution which seems to supply them with a steady stream of stoned Dave Matthews fans, all of whom would be lucky to successfully locate Thailand on a map after hyperventilating through the magic levitation classes their hippie parents pay for just because John Lennon told them to in a dream. Review from Max S. Fairfield, IA 5/24/2009 2.0 star rating It's dirt cheap but man does the food blow. Review from Will M. Seattle, WA 7/23/2010 1.0 star rating They nickname this place Thai Smelly. It's small town Midwest buffet meets new age crowd. Absolutely awful food. It's dirt cheap for a reason. I mean honestly, I don't know how this place survives - I wouldn't eat here if it was free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard first mentioned the food deserts concept on Tuesday. It took you until today, Saturday, to decide that Fairfield was a food oasis? It's funny, because even though I don't live in Fairfield, it would have taken me about two seconds to figure out it was a food oasis. Share wrote: Richard, I've been thinking about this concept of food deserts since you first posted it. I think we have an oasis here in FF! I could definitely walk to our local health food store though it would take about 15 to 20 minutes. There is another one on campus just outside the women's Dome so that's also a possibility. We have a locally owned convenience store/gas station, Logli's and Iowa has a chain of them called Kum N Go. Oh and Farmers Market twice a week so people can buy fresh, buy local. Yay Fairfield!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: House on Obamacare!
A kind of Stalinist redistribution of wealth? Instead of grinding anyone down, why not lift up the poor? My idea is to let everyone get rich so there are no poor people - anyone should be able to earn as much money as they want to - free market enterprise. On 10/20/2013 9:37 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I think Lenin meant the elite rich when he was talking about the bourgeoisie because Russians had become so oppressed that everyone else (the proletariat) were simple laborers. We don't quite have that (yet) in the US. The class struggle in the US is the small number of the elite rich who have hoarded most of the wealth and are trying to destroy the middle class to turn them into the proletariat. Fine with me and a lot of other middle class folks if we grind the bourgeoisie (the obscenely rich) down. And you lived in the Eastern Block, correct? IOW, a failed version of socialism. On 10/20/2013 06:06 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/vladimirle125951.html Vladimir Lenin http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/vladimirle125951.html ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: It's meant to be a flop. This is just a transitional stage to a single payer health care system. Think *incremental-ism*. We're heading towards *equality for all*. We'll all have a share in mediocrity, which will constantly be defined down. If I can't have what you have, I'll make sure you can't have it either. We're not evolving, we're devolving, just like the Soviet Union did. Soon, government will dictate the *ideal* life span. If your genes take you beyond that, then that's not fair and government will have to remedy that.If your genes fail to get you to that ideal point then you'll get extra help to get you there, at other's expense. Now that's fair, isn't it? *From:* Richard J. Williams punditster@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:35 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] House on Obamacare! There is one thing we can say about Obama care - it’s a disaster. ...2½ weeks after the launch of the “exchanges” that are supposed to be ObamaCare’s operational centerpiece, it is clear to almost everyone that they are an administrative disaster. In this crisis, there is an opportunity: to recognize an impending economic and humanitarian disaster, and to act in time to avert or at least minimize it. James Tarranto: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303680404579143462696720716?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion Four Things We Think We Know About Obamacare: 1. You have until March 31 to buy health insurance. 2. The penalty for being uninsured next year is $95. 3. If the exchanges don’t work, as a last resort, we can always get people signed up through call centers. 4. The state exchanges are doing fine. Megan McArdle: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-18/four-things-we-think-we-know-about-obamacare.html On 10/20/2013 3:02 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohnson/obamacare-failures-as-told-by-dr-house
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Buck, my pneumonia came back when I stopped taking the antibiotic. But the homeopathic cough syrup totally got rid of it. Doctor told me I wasn't contagious so I went to program in the town flying hall. Sugar free lozenges kept coughing in check and if not, then I was only 3 blocks from home so could easily transfer myself. Last autumn I drank echinecea tea and that and healthier eating habits kept me from getting sick at all til the pneumonia this past August. Anyway, the flu shots have both mercury and aluminum in them and aren't necessarily helpful for the current flu happening. This is a controversial position on it. On Monday, October 21, 2013 9:07 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, I always forget that. Maybe next year I'll be less self-centered and will have gotten over my fear of needles. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Yes, I always forget that. Maybe next year I'll be less self-centered and will have gotten over my fear of needles. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: OMG Leipzig!
Buck, did you watch a movie Not Rated For Buck?! On Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:50 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Meru, Well, the first time I got kicked out of the Dome was for historical-period-looking facial hair like some of these guys have too. I was going to be an extra in Ride with the Devil but then I got stopped one time while renewing my Dome badge for facial hair so I then trimmed and crafted the hair down some and then lost the job. Damn. At the time the guy at the course office had a 'stash about the trim length of Adolf's and that was okay. I did point out that I had my very typed period cavalry beard and hussar's 'stash for theatrical reasons, just like Doug Henning used his long hair and facial hair look. Of course the irony did not register. Didn't do any good according to the guidelines and the nature of the movement then. My appeal apparently went clear to the top and back down again I was told, with the message coming back he should just be more simple''. http://twitchfilm.com/2010/04/ang-lee-ride-with-the-devil-blu-ray-review.html -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Meru; Respect, camaraderie, solidarity . I always like the fife and drum of our revolutionary war and the Sousa kinds of brass and drums of the war of the rebellion. They quicken my step and lift my heart. I spent a lot of life on picket in the cavalry on horse. Been a lot of places, ridden a lot of battle lines and been in a lot of battle lines. Slept out on the ground a lot with my feet to a fire and with my horse's reins tied to my hand. Been rained on and snowed on in the saddle a lot. I have marveled at the Swiss mountain troops with their guns at home, troops with their mountain horses kept on call at home, I've walked their tank traps across their frontiers. I flew out once over our National Cemetery at Luxembourg that Patton layed out but never got to tour much else in Europe other than finding the Michelangelo Pietas around Italy one time after an ATR course with Maharishi. Made it to the Sistine. That leaning tower. Other than that I have not been off the farm much. I have ridden my horse in the sunken lanes at both Antietem and Frederickberg. Ridden the battle line at Gettysburg. Ridden Jockey Hollow with Washington and Valley Forge too. I was in saddle at the battle line at Prairie Grove. Rode the length of the battle line that Lyon laid out at Wilson's Creek. Rode up telegraph road and the heights at Pea Ridge. Was in the charge of Elkhorn Tavern. Screened the horse drawn artillery at Carthage. Cross the river at Athens and supported the charge there. In the saddle at Perryville. Been on some bunch of long scouts in force. The retreat of the army at Brice's Cross roads. A couple of my best war horses are gone now. I got one left that has been with me everywhere. He's seen everything. Sunday evening and time now to go sing old hymns, -Buck in time of Peace right now ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG Napoleon enthusiasts Buck re-enact Battle of Waterloo -let's see it live.,at least the 2011 the tantamount to glorifying the carnage of war. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RpcZJArQ8 Movies enactment--- why oh why with Beethoven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORMZdp61LG4 Will you wait for the 2013 YouTube broadcast? Each year and today(yesterday=Sunday) some 6,000 history buffs dress up today in period military costume to re-enact one of Germany's bloodiest battles, the Battle of the Nations where French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte was defeated near Leipzig in October 1813 by forces from Russia, Austria, Prussia and Sweden.(A n estimated 600,000 soldiers took part in the series of battles from 16-19 October 1813 and almost 100,000 of them lost their lives.The victory of the allies - including a small British contingent - over Napoleon marked the end of his control of German territory.) Yes, organizers say their controversial re-enactment is intended to be peaceful and to bring history alive. Many of the thousands taking part have grown period-style mustaches to match their 19th Century replica uniforms. Local TV reports live from the scene while the role of Napoleon is being played by a 46-year-old Parisian lawyer, Frank Samson, who taught himself the Corsican language in an attempt to give a more authentic performance as the French emperor.-Sure will be on you-tube , soon for Buck to... whatever you feel watching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZD2SaA5aak Buck's horse charge rehearsal Battle of Waterloo slow motion reenactment including sacre bleu car Tens of thousands of spectators attend the reconstruction, described as a reconciliation. However, Church leaders object to the battle being turned into a game. An ecumenical service was
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Attagirl. FWIW, if you haven't had a shot in a while (years), my experience has been that they've gotten much better at it. Not necessarily every last shot-giver, but I'm frequently amazed at how almost imperceptible it is. Thinner needles these days, maybe. (I know it's at least partly the idea of the shot for many people; I'm fortunate that it doesn't happen to bother me unless it actually hurts.) emilymaenot wrote: Yes, I always forget that. Maybe next year I'll be less self-centered and will have gotten over my fear of needles. :) I wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Okay that is an excellent scientific reason [herd-immuniity] to help with the Fairfield meditating community and the Dome numbers. But, is there really a significant good scientific reason to not get flu shots? [Some people claim we are getting over-shot and it screws up the immune system giving rise to so many modern hyper immune system malfunctions.] Give flu shots anyway to everyone going to the Domes to help keep the aggregate Dome meditation numbers high as they can Be? -Buck, stuck at home meditating. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pope Francis technique
They wonder whether classic anti-Semitism is not back with a vengeance all over Europe, after several decades of post-Holocaust toleration. The fact that campaigns to make kosher slaughter and even circumcision illegal are gaining ground in several countries, and were even endorsed at the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, is seen as particularly ominous. 'Exodus: Migration of Jews Out of France Begins' http://pjmedia.com/blog/exodus-migration-of-jews-out-of-france-begins/ On 10/20/2013 1:40 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: (snip) Can you imagine an American President speaking like this today? Can you imagine an American President even having the balls to try? No one else can, either. That's why America is considered a joke in most thinking parts of the world. Actually, most thinking parts of the world would consider America even more of a joke, and a particularly offensive one at that, if a president were known to have had the balls to make such anti-Semitic remarks, even a decade out of office. Anyone daring to use the term anti-Semitic has already withdrawn from the company of thinking individuals on planet Earth. You're implying that one group of people's fantasies about how the universe works are more important than, more true than, and and more inviolable than, anyone else's. Me, I class ALL religious beliefs as fantasies. I think that qualifies me as an egalitarian, unlike some who get their panties in a twist when their particular fantasies are challenged. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck
Richard, so far, according to FFL, the bad places to live are Texas, New Jersey, FF, South Carolina, Paris and expensive places on the US east and west coasts. What we need is a competent location jyotishi to tell us where the good lines are for FFL (-: On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:56 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: So far you haven't done anything but confirm my opinion of Texas and those who dwell there. You have to admit it's kind of fun to poke people in the eye with where they live. Good work! On 10/21/2013 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Yeah, you really poked the Fairfield vegie health nut cultist TMers in the eye with that story about eating the pigs and hog skins where you're from. Good work! But, everyone knows they raise lots of hogs in North Carolina and up there in Iowa. And, everyone knows they eat cow heads down in San Antonio. So what? The only question is, do you eat GM hogs? LoL! Richard, you're such a goink. You laugh at the stupidest self-made 'jokes'. Talk about a waste of band width or whatever it is you're concerned with. So far you haven't done anything but confirm my opinion of Texas and those who dwell there. On 10/19/2013 3:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: that was great Doc! and in my opinion this quote If I were forced to explain their longevity, I would have to say that I believe they remain in business primarily because of the cult school up the road is what most of the world thinks of MUM and the Movement. On Sat, 10/19/13, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 7:48 PM Mango D. - LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG, this is hilarious! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Thank you Doc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I decided to check out the FF food scene, using Yelp. This set of reviews is hilarious: Thai Deli 120 West Broadway Fairfield, IA Review from Mango D., Las Vegas, NV 9/16/2006 5.0 star rating This stuff is like crack when we come to town. Make sure you come in when it is fresh. (After dome is good) We cant get enough of the creamy coconut potato dish. And the tofu and squash dish as well. They both go great mixed with the fried rice. The noodles are good sparingly when super fresh. I cannot find anything like this in California. Sigh... Fairfield, must you taunt me so! Review from Nicholas J. San Francisco, CA 1/12/2010 1.0 star rating. The reason you'll never find a Thai restaurant like this in California is because you can usually find actual Thai people voluntarily living in the coastal regions of the country, and very few of them are likely to express an interest in consuming the watered-down Grandy's buffet slop this dismal little cafeteria tries to pass off as an exotic Asian experience. If I were forced to explain their longevity, I would have to say that I believe they remain in business primarily because of the cult school up the road--an institution which seems to supply them with a steady stream of stoned Dave Matthews fans, all of whom would be lucky to successfully locate Thailand on a map after hyperventilating through the magic levitation classes their hippie parents pay for just because John Lennon told them to in a dream. Review from Max S. Fairfield, IA 5/24/2009 2.0 star rating It's dirt cheap but man does the food blow. Review from Will M. Seattle, WA 7/23/2010 1.0 star rating They nickname this place Thai Smelly. It's small town Midwest buffet meets new age crowd. Absolutely awful food. It's dirt cheap for a reason. I mean honestly, I don't know how this place survives - I wouldn't eat here if it was free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard first mentioned the food deserts concept on Tuesday. It took you until today, Saturday, to decide that Fairfield was a food oasis? It's funny, because even though I don't live in Fairfield, it would have taken me about two seconds to figure out it was a food oasis. Share wrote: Richard, I've been thinking about this concept of food deserts since you first posted it. I think we have an oasis here in FF!
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: OMG Leipzig!
Definitely not. There was no gratuitous sex or violence in the movie and animals were not abused in the filming. Ride with the Devil is as much redeeming documentary film making as anything. Local history too. I did not realize there is now a director's cut out with more footage. I'll seal my energy system up before hand and watch the new expanded version. I knew a lot of the extras and rode with them once upon a time. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, did you watch a movie Not Rated For Buck?! On Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:50 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Meru, Well, the first time I got kicked out of the Dome was for historical-period-looking facial hair like some of these guys have too. I was going to be an extra in Ride with the Devil but then I got stopped one time while renewing my Dome badge for facial hair so I then trimmed and crafted the hair down some and then lost the job. Damn. At the time the guy at the course office had a 'stash about the trim length of Adolf's and that was okay.I did point out that I had my very typed period cavalry beard and hussar's 'stash for theatrical reasons, just like Doug Henning used his long hair and facial hair look. Of course the irony did not register. Didn't do any good according to the guidelines and the nature of the movement then. My appeal apparently went clear to the top and back down again I was told, with the message coming back he should just be more simple''. http://twitchfilm.com/2010/04/ang-lee-ride-with-the-devil-blu-ray-review.html http://twitchfilm.com/2010/04/ang-lee-ride-with-the-devil-blu-ray-review.html -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Meru; Respect, camaraderie, solidarity . I always like the fife and drum of our revolutionary war and the Sousa kinds of brass and drums of the war of the rebellion. They quicken my step and lift my heart. I spent a lot of life on picket in the cavalry on horse. Been a lot of places, ridden a lot of battle lines and been in a lot of battle lines. Slept out on the ground a lot with my feet to a fire and with my horse's reins tied to my hand. Been rained on and snowed on in the saddle a lot. I have marveled at the Swiss mountain troops with their guns at home, troops with their mountain horses kept on call at home, I've walked their tank traps across their frontiers. I flew out once over our National Cemetery at Luxembourg that Patton layed out but never got to tour much else in Europe other than finding the Michelangelo Pietas around Italy one time after an ATR course with Maharishi. Made it to the Sistine. That leaning tower. Other than that I have not been off the farm much. I have ridden my horse in the sunken lanes at both Antietem and Frederickberg. Ridden the battle line at Gettysburg. Ridden Jockey Hollow with Washington and Valley Forge too. I was in saddle at the battle line at Prairie Grove. Rode the length of the battle line that Lyon laid out at Wilson's Creek. Rode up telegraph road and the heights at Pea Ridge. Was in the charge of Elkhorn Tavern. Screened the horse drawn artillery at Carthage. Cross the river at Athens and supported the charge there. In the saddle at Perryville. Been on some bunch of long scouts in force. The retreat of the army at Brice's Cross roads. A couple of my best war horses are gone now. I got one left that has been with me everywhere. He's seen everything. Sunday evening and time now to go sing old hymns, -Buck in time of Peace right now ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG Napoleon enthusiasts Buck re-enact Battle of Waterloo -let's see it live.,at least the 2011 the tantamount to glorifying the carnage of war. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RpcZJArQ8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk Movies enactment--- why oh why with Beethoven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORMZdp61LG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk Will you wait for the 2013 YouTube broadcast? Each year and today(yesterday=Sunday) some 6,000 history buffs dress up today in period military costume to re-enact one of Germany's bloodiest battles, the Battle of the Nations where French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte was defeated near Leipzig in October 1813 by forces from Russia, Austria, Prussia and Sweden.(A n estimated 600,000 soldiers took part in the series of battles from 16-19 October 1813 and almost 100,000 of them lost their lives.The victory of the allies - including a small British contingent - over Napoleon marked the end of his control of
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: OMG Leipzig!
Buck, your post reminded me of a headline I saw recently: 750,000 animals were WWII casualties. Here's the full story, very sad. http://www.care2.com/causes/remembering-the-75-animal-casualties-of-world-war-ii.html On Monday, October 21, 2013 9:35 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Definitely not. There was no gratuitous sex or violence in the movie and animals were not abused in the filming. Ride with the Devil is as much redeeming documentary film making as anything. Local history too. I did not realize there is now a director's cut out with more footage. I'll seal my energy system up before hand and watch the new expanded version. I knew a lot of the extras and rode with them once upon a time. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, did you watch a movie Not Rated For Buck?! On Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:50 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Meru, Well, the first time I got kicked out of the Dome was for historical-period-looking facial hair like some of these guys have too. I was going to be an extra in Ride with the Devil but then I got stopped one time while renewing my Dome badge for facial hair so I then trimmed and crafted the hair down some and then lost the job. Damn. At the time the guy at the course office had a 'stash about the trim length of Adolf's and that was okay. I did point out that I had my very typed period cavalry beard and hussar's 'stash for theatrical reasons, just like Doug Henning used his long hair and facial hair look. Of course the irony did not register. Didn't do any good according to the guidelines and the nature of the movement then. My appeal apparently went clear to the top and back down again I was told, with the message coming back he should just be more simple''. http://twitchfilm.com/2010/04/ang-lee-ride-with-the-devil-blu-ray-review.html -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Meru; Respect, camaraderie, solidarity . I always like the fife and drum of our revolutionary war and the Sousa kinds of brass and drums of the war of the rebellion. They quicken my step and lift my heart. I spent a lot of life on picket in the cavalry on horse. Been a lot of places, ridden a lot of battle lines and been in a lot of battle lines. Slept out on the ground a lot with my feet to a fire and with my horse's reins tied to my hand. Been rained on and snowed on in the saddle a lot. I have marveled at the Swiss mountain troops with their guns at home, troops with their mountain horses kept on call at home, I've walked their tank traps across their frontiers. I flew out once over our National Cemetery at Luxembourg that Patton layed out but never got to tour much else in Europe other than finding the Michelangelo Pietas around Italy one time after an ATR course with Maharishi. Made it to the Sistine. That leaning tower. Other than that I have not been off the farm much. I have ridden my horse in the sunken lanes at both Antietem and Frederickberg. Ridden the battle line at Gettysburg. Ridden Jockey Hollow with Washington and Valley Forge too. I was in saddle at the battle line at Prairie Grove. Rode the length of the battle line that Lyon laid out at Wilson's Creek. Rode up telegraph road and the heights at Pea Ridge. Was in the charge of Elkhorn Tavern. Screened the horse drawn artillery at Carthage. Cross the river at Athens and supported the charge there. In the saddle at Perryville. Been on some bunch of long scouts in force. The retreat of the army at Brice's Cross roads. A couple of my best war horses are gone now. I got one left that has been with me everywhere. He's seen everything. Sunday evening and time now to go sing old hymns, -Buck in time of Peace right now ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OMG Napoleon enthusiasts Buck re-enact Battle of Waterloo -let's see it live.,at least the 2011 the tantamount to glorifying the carnage of war. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_2xjx2iLk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RpcZJArQ8 Movies enactment--- why oh why with Beethoven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORMZdp61LG4 Will you wait for the 2013 YouTube broadcast? Each year and today(yesterday=Sunday) some 6,000 history buffs dress up today in period military costume to re-enact one of Germany's bloodiest battles, the Battle of the Nations where French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte was defeated near Leipzig in October 1813 by forces from Russia, Austria, Prussia and Sweden.(A n estimated 600,000 soldiers took part in the series of battles from 16-19 October 1813 and almost 100,000 of them lost their lives.The victory of the allies - including a small British contingent - over Napoleon marked the end of his control of German territory.) Yes, organizers say their controversial re-enactment is
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique
Yeah, you told off the Americans on the discussion group. Good work! Do you still have your American passport? LoL! On 10/20/2013 11:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Share wrote: 'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.' Were I this god, I would love this; you have succumbed to the propaganda of a tyrant. Thomas Jefferson, an admirer of Jesus but not of much else in the Christian Bible wrote of this god of the Torah (as the Christians inherited the scriptures of the Jews) in rather disparaging terms: 'There are, I acknowledge, passages not free from objection, which we may, with probability, ascribe to Jesus himself; but claiming indulgence from the circumstances under which he acted. His object was the reformation of some articles in the religion of the Jews, as taught by Moses. That sect had presented for the object of their worship, a being of terrific* character, cruel, vindictive, capricious and unjust. Jesus, taking for his type the best qualities of the human head and heart, wisdom, justice, goodness, and adding to them power, ascribed all of these, but in infinite perfection, to the Supreme Being, and formed him really worthy of their adoration. Moses had either not believed in a future state of existence, or had not thought it essential to be explicitly taught to his people. Jesus inculcated that doctrine with emphasis and precision. Moses had bound the Jews to many idle ceremonies, mummeries and observances, of no effect towards producing the social utilities which constitute the essence of virtue; Jesus exposed their futility and insignificance.' *meaning terror-ific - 'terrifying' in more modern language This passage (from which the part I bolded is often quoted out of context or modified) is from a letter Jefferson wrote to one William Short in 1820. ( http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_jesus.html http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_jesus.html http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_jesus.html%20http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_jesus.html ) One might accuse Jefferson of racism on the basis of the content of this letter. Jefferson was referring to the character of god in the 'Old Testament', the Torah etc. which are a part of the Christian scriptures. Jefferson himself made a version of the Bible where he cut out all the tyrannical passages and mythology including the entire Old Testament, and most of the New. He admired Jesus to the extent the character of Jesus can be extracted from these writings, but he admired not much else in the Bible. http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/62/The_Jefferson_Bible_The_Life__Morals_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth_1.html http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/62/The_Jefferson_Bible_The_Life__Morals_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth_1.html http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/62/The_Jefferson_Bible_The_Life__Morals_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth_1.html%20http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/62/The_Jefferson_Bible_The_Life__Morals_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth_1.html%20 Can you imagine an American President speaking like this today? Can you imagine an American President even having the balls to try? No one else can, either. That's why America is considered a joke in most thinking parts of the world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job in San Diego with a sign-on bonus! My grandson wants to be a computer game designer - he is learning programming at a community college in Sonoma. According to the Entertainment Software Association, which represents American video game companies, Texas is home to 24 colleges and universities that offer video-game-related courses and programs. More are on the way, including a University of Texas at Austin post-baccalaureate program that will enroll students in 2014. 'Texas Incentives Lure Video Game Companies' http://www.texastribune.org/ http://www.texastribune.org/2013/10/04/texas-incentives-lure-video-game-companies/ On 10/20/2013 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote: I did desktop publishing as a temp in 1980 for a company that did those real estate magazines. Of course there was no graphics, just entering listing on paper into the computer. The gig lasted only a few days as they just needed some extra temps for a while who were good at typing and maybe some data entry experience (got that at the EDS temp gig). EDS wanted me back but I wound up working as a temp at title insurance company. Then my old band wanted me back so that was the end of temp work. I tried again when I returned a couple years later to my home town to sign up for temp computer work but they wanted a computer science degree for that. I laughed at them. I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. There are actually fewer and fewer jobs. It is probably time to do what Bucky Fuller suggested and pay people NOT TO WORK. But Dixon won't like that. ;-) On 10/20/2013 07:17 AM, Richard Williams wrote: After I graduated from High School I attended a community college and got a degree in Graphic Design. I was offered a job in at Pacific Life so I moved out to San Francisco to get started. I rented an apartment on Sacramento street right around the corner from China Town. It was the worst job I ever had - mainly due to the boredom. It was a job that sucked - what I really wanted to do was desktop publishing, except it wasn't invented yet. So, I had to wait until 19893 to get a PC. Go figure. Graphic Artist at work: Inline image 1 http://www.smartschoolfinder.com/guide/graphic-art-design-schools My job was to produce documents and printed materials for the life insurance sales agents. I used an AM Varityper to produce the text, a T-square to align the text, and wax to stick it down. When everything got approved, I gave ithe layout to the printer. The only good thing about this job was they sent me through Varityper school which helped me get a better job two years later - Art Director of the the weekly Marin Tribune,. That was back in 1968 and it was very cool living across the Golden Gate Bridge in Marin County. Now this sucks - Rita went back to school in 2000 and graduated from a community college with a degree in Graphic Arts and then graduated from the university summa cum laude with a degree in Communication Arts. Have you ever considered becoming a chef, or getting into desktop publishing? If so, forget it. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, these occupations are on their way out, with the number of jobs being created and prospects for growth over the next few years standing at just about nil. '3 Dead-End Jobs to Avoid (Despite the Decent Pay)' http://www.fool.-dead-end-jobs-to-avoid-despite-the-decent-pay.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/19/3-dead-end-jobs-to-avoid-despite-the-decent-pay.aspx
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Share wrote: (snip) Anyway, the flu shots have both mercury and aluminum in them and aren't necessarily helpful for the current flu happening. This is a controversial position on it. Yes, anti-vax positions are highly controversial, mostly because they're based on ignorance. For example, you get far more mercury from eating a piece of fish than from getting a flu shot. The amount in a flu shot is negligible. Same with aluminum. Babies get far more aluminum in breast milk than in a flu vaccine. As to the current flu happening, note that there are many different strains of flu happening in any given season. It's very rare, however, that a seasonal flu vaccine will miss the more significant strains of flu virus circulating in that season.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique
Re The fact that campaigns to make kosher slaughter and even circumcision illegal . . . : You are correct about the worrying rise in anti-Semitic violence in Europe - often carried out by Muslims. But Muslims would also be hit by a ban on circumcision. And if kosher slaughter is outlawed so would Halal meat be banned. Can't see the politicians following up on either proposal. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: They wonder whether classic anti-Semitism is not back with a vengeance all over Europe, after several decades of post-Holocaust toleration. The fact that campaigns to make kosher slaughter and even circumcision illegal are gaining ground in several countries, and were even endorsed at the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, is seen as particularly ominous. 'Exodus: Migration of Jews Out of France Begins' http://pjmedia.com/blog/exodus-migration-of-jews-out-of-france-begins/ http://pjmedia.com/blog/exodus-migration-of-jews-out-of-france-begins/ On 10/20/2013 1:40 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: (snip) Can you imagine an American President speaking like this today? Can you imagine an American President even having the balls to try? No one else can, either. That's why America is considered a joke in most thinking parts of the world. Actually, most thinking parts of the world would consider America even more of a joke, and a particularly offensive one at that, if a president were known to have had the balls to make such anti-Semitic remarks, even a decade out of office. Anyone daring to use the term anti-Semitic has already withdrawn from the company of thinking individuals on planet Earth. You're implying that one group of people's fantasies about how the universe works are more important than, more true than, and and more inviolable than, anyone else's. Me, I class ALL religious beliefs as fantasies. I think that qualifies me as an egalitarian, unlike some who get their panties in a twist when their particular fantasies are challenged. :-)
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Resolve: The Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy www.istpp.org http://www.istpp.org/ in support of sound science and larger public policy in maximizing the ongoing Meissner Effect [ME] of the Fairfield group meditations shall commence immediately providing free seasonal flu shots to all meditator participants in the community group meditations hosted by the meditating Fairfield community. Let the shots begin. Being sick and missing the Dome is no fun, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share wrote: (snip) Anyway, the flu shots have both mercury and aluminum in them and aren't necessarily helpful for the current flu happening. This is a controversial position on it. Yes, anti-vax positions are highly controversial, mostly because they're based on ignorance. For example, you get far more mercury from eating a piece of fish than from getting a flu shot. The amount in a flu shot is negligible. Same with aluminum. Babies get far more aluminum in breast milk than in a flu vaccine. As to the current flu happening, note that there are many different strains of flu happening in any given season. It's very rare, however, that a seasonal flu vaccine will miss the more significant strains of flu virus circulating in that season.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Buck wrote: Okay that is an excellent scientific reason [herd-immuniity] to help with the Fairfield meditating community and the Dome numbers. But, is there really a significant good scientific reason to not get flu shots? [Some people claim we are getting over-shot and it screws up the immune system giving rise to so many modern hyper immune system malfunctions.] There's no good evidence for this or any other objection to getting a flu shot (unless you're allergic to eggs or there are other individual considerations--check with your doctor to make sure). There's a ridiculous amount of anti-vax hysteria going around among the credulous and ignorant. Most of it is pretty easily debunkable if you just check with reputable Web sites, like those for the CDC or NIH or Web MD. Give flu shots anyway to everyone going to the Domes to help keep the aggregate Dome meditation numbers high as they can Be? Well, to keep Fairfield residents generally as healthy as they can be, of course, since vaccinated Dome-goers will contribute to herd immunity in the larger community. But the Domes are probably excellent places to be exposed to the flu. Also crucially important, of course, is to wash the hands frequently. Might be a good idea to have folks standing at the doors to squirt folks' hands with one of the liquid hand sanitizers as they enter. Buck, stuck at home meditating. Ann was right, BTW, the flu shot wouldn't have done anything to keep you from getting the cold or bronchitis or pneumonia. You were right to stay home, though, once you'd caught the cold. Bronchitis and pneumonia both can be contagious as well. Older folk, BTW, should get the pneumonia vaccine. I think you only need it once rather than seasonally. That might have kept your bronchitis from progressing to pneumonia.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: House on Obamacare!
Stalin invented redistribution of wealth? He was crazy dictator. What part of failed version of socialism did you not understand? Go look at some of the Scandinavian countries instead. Why can't we lift up the poor? Lack of resources. Beside Americans lived a phony dream of wealth by putting themselves excessively in debt. And aren't you contradicting yourself? You've been talking about the rent is too damn high, cutting the cable and cheap entertainment alternatives. Seems to me you are trying to simplify your life. Don't you think the Koch brothers are a bit mentally ill when they say they don't have enough money? Maybe they're testing the waters to see how stupid Americans can be. We talk about the minimum wage, how about a maximum wage. Nobody is a magic person so why do they pay company CEOs so much? Either that or you are living in a fantasy land of dukes and duchesses who peasant Willy bows down to. On 10/21/2013 07:12 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: A kind of Stalinist redistribution of wealth? Instead of grinding anyone down, why not lift up the poor? My idea is to let everyone get rich so there are no poor people - anyone should be able to earn as much money as they want to - free market enterprise. On 10/20/2013 9:37 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I think Lenin meant the elite rich when he was talking about the bourgeoisie because Russians had become so oppressed that everyone else (the proletariat) were simple laborers. We don't quite have that (yet) in the US. The class struggle in the US is the small number of the elite rich who have hoarded most of the wealth and are trying to destroy the middle class to turn them into the proletariat. Fine with me and a lot of other middle class folks if we grind the bourgeoisie (the obscenely rich) down. And you lived in the Eastern Block, correct? IOW, a failed version of socialism. On 10/20/2013 06:06 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/vladimirle125951.html Vladimir Lenin http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/vladimirle125951.html ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: It's meant to be a flop. This is just a transitional stage to a single payer health care system. Think *incremental-ism*. We're heading towards *equality for all*. We'll all have a share in mediocrity, which will constantly be defined down. If I can't have what you have, I'll make sure you can't have it either. We're not evolving, we're devolving, just like the Soviet Union did. Soon, government will dictate the *ideal* life span. If your genes take you beyond that, then that's not fair and government will have to remedy that.If your genes fail to get you to that ideal point then you'll get extra help to get you there, at other's expense. Now that's fair, isn't it? *From:* Richard J. Williams punditster@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:35 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] House on Obamacare! There is one thing we can say about Obama care - it’s a disaster. ...2½ weeks after the launch of the “exchanges” that are supposed to be ObamaCare’s operational centerpiece, it is clear to almost everyone that they are an administrative disaster. In this crisis, there is an opportunity: to recognize an impending economic and humanitarian disaster, and to act in time to avert or at least minimize it. James Tarranto: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303680404579143462696720716?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion Four Things We Think We Know About Obamacare: 1. You have until March 31 to buy health insurance. 2. The penalty for being uninsured next year is $95. 3. If the exchanges don’t work, as a last resort, we can always get people signed up through call centers. 4. The state exchanges are doing fine. Megan McArdle: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-18/four-things-we-think-we-know-about-obamacare.html On 10/20/2013 3:02 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohnson/obamacare-failures-as-told-by-dr-house
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Folks might want to check to see if there are any flu-shot clinics in the vicinity. According to Google Maps, Hy-Vee has them: Our Pharmacy is offering flu shots on most weekdays from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. during cold and flu season. For more details, contact our pharmacy at 641-472-4119. The cost of a flu shot is $25, but may be submitted to insurance for the co-pay price, or Medicare covers 100% of the cost of a flu shot. Remember it takes two weeks for the shot to become effective, so the sooner you get one, the better. Buck wrote: Resolve: The Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy www.istpp.org http://www.istpp.org/ in support of sound science and larger public policy in maximizing the ongoing Meissner Effect [ME] of the Fairfield group meditations shall commence immediately providing free seasonal flu shots to all meditator participants in the community group meditations hosted by the meditating Fairfield community. Let the shots begin. Being sick and missing the Dome is no fun, -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job in San Diego with a sign-on bonus! My grandson wants to be a computer game designer - he is learning programming at a community college in Sonoma. According to the Entertainment Software Association, which represents American video game companies, Texas is home to 24 colleges and universities that offer video-game-related courses and programs. More are on the way, including a University of Texas at Austin post-baccalaureate program that will enroll students in 2014. 'Texas Incentives Lure Video Game Companies' http://www.texastribune.org/ http://www.texastribune.org/2013/10/04/texas-incentives-lure-video-game-companies/ On 10/20/2013 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote: I did desktop publishing as a temp in 1980 for a company that did those real estate magazines. Of course there was no graphics, just entering listing on paper into the computer. The gig lasted only a few days as they just needed some extra temps for a while who were good at typing and maybe some data entry experience (got that at the EDS temp gig). EDS wanted me back but I wound up working as a temp at title insurance company. Then my old band wanted me back so that was the end of temp work. I tried again when I returned a couple years later to my home town to sign up for temp computer work but they wanted a computer science degree for that. I laughed at them. I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. There are actually fewer and fewer jobs. It is probably time to do what Bucky Fuller suggested and pay people NOT TO WORK. But Dixon won't like that. ;-) On 10/20/2013 07:17 AM, Richard Williams wrote: After I graduated from High School I attended a community college and got a degree in Graphic Design. I was offered a job in at Pacific Life so I moved out to San Francisco to get started. I rented an apartment on Sacramento street right around the corner from China Town. It was the worst job I ever had - mainly due to the boredom. It was a job that sucked - what I really wanted to do was desktop publishing, except it wasn't invented yet. So, I had to wait until 19893 to get a PC. Go figure. Graphic Artist at work: Inline image 1 http://www.smartschoolfinder.com/guide/graphic-art-design-schools My job was to produce documents and printed materials for the life insurance sales agents. I used an AM Varityper to produce the text, a T-square to align the text, and wax to stick it down. When everything got approved, I gave ithe layout to the printer. The only good thing about this job was they sent me through Varityper school which helped me get a better job two years later - Art Director of the the weekly Marin Tribune,. That was back in 1968 and it was very cool living across the Golden Gate Bridge in Marin County. Now this sucks - Rita went back to school in 2000 and graduated from a community college with a degree in Graphic Arts and then graduated from the university summa cum laude with a degree in Communication Arts. Have you ever considered becoming a chef, or getting into desktop publishing? If so, forget it. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, these occupations are on their way out, with the number of jobs being created and prospects for growth over the next few years standing at just about nil. '3 Dead-End Jobs to Avoid (Despite the Decent Pay)' http://www.fool.-dead-end-jobs-to-avoid-despite-the-decent-pay.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/19/3-dead-end-jobs-to-avoid-despite-the-decent-pay.aspx
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
This public service announcement was brought to you by the American Pharmaceutical Industry where living is better through chemisty. On 10/21/2013 06:47 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
I was referring here to Fairfield specifically, but anybody can type flu shots followed by their city and state in the Google Maps search box (or just on Google.com) and get a list of flu shot clinics in their area. I wrote: Folks might want to check to see if there are any flu-shot clinics in the vicinity. According to Google Maps, Hy-Vee has them: Our Pharmacy is offering flu shots on most weekdays from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. during cold and flu season. For more details, contact our pharmacy at 641-472-4119. The cost of a flu shot is $25, but may be submitted to insurance for the co-pay price, or Medicare covers 100% of the cost of a flu shot. Remember it takes two weeks for the shot to become effective, so the sooner you get one, the better.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Buck, one other thing, IMHO, the town flying hall has better air filters and therefore better air quality than the Dome does. On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:57 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This public service announcement was brought to you by the American Pharmaceutical Industry where living is better through chemisty. On 10/21/2013 06:47 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: House on Obamacare!
When someone who is super rich says that they don't have enough money, that doesn't seem just mentally ill to me, that seems criminally insane! On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:51 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Stalin invented redistribution of wealth? He was crazy dictator. What part of failed version of socialism did you not understand? Go look at some of the Scandinavian countries instead. Why can't we lift up the poor? Lack of resources. Beside Americans lived a phony dream of wealth by putting themselves excessively in debt. And aren't you contradicting yourself? You've been talking about the rent is too damn high, cutting the cable and cheap entertainment alternatives. Seems to me you are trying to simplify your life. Don't you think the Koch brothers are a bit mentally ill when they say they don't have enough money? Maybe they're testing the waters to see how stupid Americans can be. We talk about the minimum wage, how about a maximum wage. Nobody is a magic person so why do they pay company CEOs so much? Either that or you are living in a fantasy land of dukes and duchesses who peasant Willy bows down to. On 10/21/2013 07:12 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: A kind of Stalinist redistribution of wealth? Instead of grinding anyone down, why not lift up the poor? My idea is to let everyone get rich so there are no poor people - anyone should be able to earn as much money as they want to - free market enterprise. On 10/20/2013 9:37 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I think Lenin meant the elite rich when he was talking about the bourgeoisie because Russians had become so oppressed that everyone else (the proletariat) were simple laborers. We don't quite have that (yet) in the US. The class struggle in the US is the small number of the elite rich who have hoarded most of the wealth and are trying to destroy the middle class to turn them into the proletariat. Fine with me and a lot of other middle class folks if we grind the bourgeoisie (the obscenely rich) down. And you lived in the Eastern Block, correct? IOW, a failed version of socialism. On 10/20/2013 06:06 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. Vladimir Lenin ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: It's meant to be a flop. This is just a transitional stage to a single payer health care system. Think *incremental-ism*. We're heading towards *equality for all*. We'll all have a share in mediocrity, which will constantly be defined down. If I can't have what you have, I'll make sure you can't have it either. We're not evolving, we're devolving, just like the Soviet Union did. Soon, government will dictate the *ideal* life span. If your genes take you beyond that, then that's not fair and government will have to remedy that.If your genes fail to get you to that ideal point then you'll get extra help to get you there, at other's expense. Now that's fair, isn't it? From: Richard J. Williams punditster@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] House on Obamacare! There is one thing we can say about Obama care - it’s a disaster. ...2½ weeks after the launch of the “exchanges” that are supposed to be ObamaCare’s operational centerpiece, it is clear to almost everyone that they are an administrative disaster. In this crisis, there is an opportunity: to recognize an impending economic and humanitarian disaster, and to act in time to avert or at least minimize it. James Tarranto: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303680404579143462696720716?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion Four Things We Think We Know About Obamacare: 1. You have until March 31 to buy health insurance. 2. The penalty for being uninsured next year is $95. 3. If the exchanges don’t work, as a last resort, we can always get people signed up through call centers. 4. The state exchanges are doing fine. Megan McArdle: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-18/four-things-we-think-we-know-about-obamacare.html On 10/20/2013 3:02 AM, cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohnson/obamacare-failures-as-told-by-dr-house
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Paranoid much? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This public service announcement was brought to you by the American Pharmaceutical Industry where living is better through chemisty. On 10/21/2013 06:47 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Fw: Darwin The Survival of the Kindest
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
There aren't just pair of noids around here but quite a few noids around this area. There are a bunch of companies that like to hire noids but only young ones. Do you have a lot noids in your neigbhorhood? On 10/21/2013 09:13 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Paranoid much?* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This public service announcement was brought to you by the American Pharmaceutical Industry where living is better through chemisty. On 10/21/2013 06:47 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Flu shots are as much use as tits on a bo' hog. Meaning a boar hog, a male, who does not suckle the young, meaning of no use whatsoever. The strains of flu in the shot are almost never the strains that are actually going around - it is however one big ass scam on the part of Big Pharma, who additionally says its the people who have compromised immune systems who really really need the shots - which is a god damn lie. I have known a number of people including siddhas who had problems like lyme disease who got the flu shot at their doctors insistence and their health went downhill like a rocket. So if you wanna keep the pharmaceutical companies going and waste your money, go ahead. Its ok to be a bo' hog with tits. On Mon, 10/21/13, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 21, 2013, 2:07 PM Yes, I always forget that. Maybe next year I'll be less self-centered and will have gotten over my fear of needles. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not justto protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots?-Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
To those concerned about the role of govt corruption w regards to vaccines: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/how-government%E2%80%99s-vaccine-policy-infected-corruption-1?utm_source=GreenMedInfo+Weeklyutm_campaign=6912a2a8c6-Greenmedinfoutm_medium=emailutm_term=0_62bb7ef31e-6912a2a8c6-87060845 On Monday, October 21, 2013 12:51 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Flu shots are as much use as tits on a bo' hog. Meaning a boar hog, a male, who does not suckle the young, meaning of no use whatsoever. The strains of flu in the shot are almost never the strains that are actually going around - it is however one big ass scam on the part of Big Pharma, who additionally says its the people who have compromised immune systems who really really need the shots - which is a god damn lie. I have known a number of people including siddhas who had problems like lyme disease who got the flu shot at their doctors insistence and their health went downhill like a rocket. So if you wanna keep the pharmaceutical companies going and waste your money, go ahead. Its ok to be a bo' hog with tits. On Mon, 10/21/13, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 21, 2013, 2:07 PM Yes, I always forget that. Maybe next year I'll be less self-centered and will have gotten over my fear of needles. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not justto protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots?-Buck
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/efficacy-of-current-flu-vaccines-questioned-1.1273974 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/efficacy-of-current-flu-vaccines-questioned-1.1273974 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: To those concerned about the role of govt corruption w regards to vaccines: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/how-government%E2%80%99s-vaccine-policy-infected-corruption-1?utm_source=GreenMedInfo+Weeklyutm_campaign=6912a2a8c6-Greenmedinfoutm_medium=emailutm_term=0_62bb7ef31e-6912a2a8c6-87060845 http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/how-government%E2%80%99s-vaccine-policy-infected-corruption-1?utm_source=GreenMedInfo+Weeklyutm_campaign=6912a2a8c6-Greenmedinfoutm_medium=emailutm_term=0_62bb7ef31e-6912a2a8c6-87060845 On Monday, October 21, 2013 12:51 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Flu shots are as much use as tits on a bo' hog. Meaning a boar hog, a male, who does not suckle the young, meaning of no use whatsoever. The strains of flu in the shot are almost never the strains that are actually going around - it is however one big ass scam on the part of Big Pharma, who additionally says its the people who have compromised immune systems who really really need the shots - which is a god damn lie. I have known a number of people including siddhas who had problems like lyme disease who got the flu shot at their doctors insistence and their health went downhill like a rocket. So if you wanna keep the pharmaceutical companies going and waste your money, go ahead. Its ok to be a bo' hog with tits. On Mon, 10/21/13, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 21, 2013, 2:07 PM Yes, I always forget that. Maybe next year I'll be less self-centered and will have gotten over my fear of needles. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not justto protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity emilymaenot wrote: Nothing. Get one if you like, from an accredited place. I worked for a company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was *really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up on it. Came to find out, that the guy was a huckster and that was his Christmas con. He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us employees found out. I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must have been safe. I haven't had a flu shot since :). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, what is wrong with getting flu shots?-Buck
[FairfieldLife] Patrick Bosold for Fairfield City Council
Who's fabulous? It is Pat Bosold. He would make a GREAT addition to the city council. Pass this email onto Fairfield friends.
[FairfieldLife] Fab 4 frustrated...
...as almost nobody listens to their playing and singing, girls are just wetting their knickers (panties) and screeming like maniacs?? http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/ringoshea1.html http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/ringoshea1.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
I spent about a half an hour looking through this site and found over a dozen red flags as to its reliability, including the qualifications of its founder (no medical qualifications), the questionable legitimacy of an organization on whose board he sits, cherry-picking of research, misleading summaries of research abstracts, etc., etc., etc. I don't have time today to itemize the red flags, but I'll see if I can get to it tomorrow. I wouldn't trust this Web site any further than I could throw it. Take the first sentence of the article on the site that Share links to: Annually we receive warnings from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) of an impending influenza epidemic. Ooo, scary! But what this refers to are the standard announcements about the regular seasonal outbreak of flu. Technically it's an epidemic, but it happens every year and is expected. I didn't have the time to look into the site's sponsors, but at the top of the list is Joseph Mercola's Web site, Mercola.com. That in itself is enough to sound a loud warning siren: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola More tomorrow if I can get to it. Share wrote: To those concerned about the role of govt corruption w regards to vaccines: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/how-government%E2%80%99s-vaccine-policy-infected-corruption-1?utm_source=GreenMedInfo+Weeklyutm_campaign=6912a2a8c6-Greenmedinfoutm_medium=emailutm_term=0_62bb7ef31e-6912a2a8c6-87060845 http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/how-government%E2%80%99s-vaccine-policy-infected-corruption-1?utm_source=GreenMedInfo+Weeklyutm_campaign=6912a2a8c6-Greenmedinfoutm_medium=emailutm_term=0_62bb7ef31e-6912a2a8c6-87060845
[FairfieldLife] RE: Hebrew vs. Sanskrit!
The source of the Sanskrit language is fascinating; The ancient seers correlated the vibrations (bija) of the cerebral forces (Sahasrara Chakra 7th)with their respective centers (chakras) in the spine. From the seed sounds emitted by the action of these vibrations, the rishis evolved the phonetically perfect Sanskrit alphabet. In a highly simplified description, it may be said that the fifty letters or sounds of the Sanskrit alphabet are on the petals of the sahasrara and that each alphabetical vibration in turn is connected with a specific petal on the lotuses (chakras) in the spinal centers... Source, the Bhagavad Gita by Swami Yogananda Ch1vs21. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: At this point I'd say that Hebrew is a more mystical language whereas Sanskrit is a more logical and scientific one!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fab 4 frustrated...
Wow. Great footage. I almost fainted 48 years later. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ...as almost nobody listens to their playing and singing, girls are just wetting their knickers (panties) and screeming like maniacs?? http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/ringoshea1.html http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/ringoshea1.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fw: Darwin The Survival of the Kindest
Share,
I heard that stimulation of the vagus nerve can lead to hallucinations similar
to an LSD experience. Also, those who were tortured, through waterboarding,
were experiencing hallucinations as well due to stimulation of the vagus
nerves.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Fascinating article which also includes insights about the vagus nerve and the
role of teasing...
http://www.dailygood.org/story/579/kindness-emotions-david-disalvo/
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Headline of article at Ann's link: Efficacy of current flu vaccines questioned Until new vaccines are developed, researchers say people should keep getting shots Also see: http://immunizebc.ca/healthcare-professionals/influenza-myths-and-realities http://immunizebc.ca/healthcare-professionals/influenza-myths-and-realities Ann wrote: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/efficacy-of-current-flu-vaccines-questioned-1.1273974 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/efficacy-of-current-flu-vaccines-questioned-1.1273974
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fw: Darwin The Survival of the Kindest
That's interesting, John. This article says something different. Maybe it has
something to do with the amount of stimulation.
On Monday, October 21, 2013 3:59 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Share,
I heard that stimulation of the vagus nerve can lead to hallucinations similar
to an LSD experience. Also, those who were tortured, through waterboarding,
were experiencing hallucinations as well due to stimulation of the vagus
nerves.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Fascinating article which also includes insights about the vagus nerve and the
role of teasing...
http://www.dailygood.org/story/579/kindness-emotions-david-disalvo/
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Darwin The Survival of the Kindest
Dacher Keltner, director of the Berkeley Social Interaction Laboratory,
investigates what it means to live a good and meaningful life from the
fascinating perspectives of neurobiology, emotion science, and evolutionary
science. Contrary to the idea that Darwin saw human beings as competitive and
self-interested, Keltner argues that Darwin saw the human species as profoundly
social and caring. He explains that humans have developed remarkable tendencies
toward kindness, play, generosity, reverence, and self-sacrifice that are vital
to our survival as a species and are experienced through emotions such as
compassion, gratitude, awe, embarrassment, and mirth. He discusses findings
from the science of happiness that uncover familiar ways in which such goodness
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation
Dear Friends and Members of FFL; for those who were not paying attention below here is the condensed minute of the recent FFL record of debate. The discussion on the FFL resolution to inoculate the Fairfield meditating community against the flu for the large reasons of larger public health: Resolve: The Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy www.istpp.org in support of sound science and larger public policy in maximizing the ongoing Meissner Effect [ME] of the Fairfield group meditations shall commence immediately providing free seasonal flu shots to all meditator participants in the community group meditations hosted by the meditating Fairfield community. Let the shots begin. Being sick and missing the Dome group meditation is no fun, -Buck So, what is wrong with getting flu shots? -Buck [Some people claim we are getting over-shot and it screws up the immune system giving rise to so many modern hyper immune system malfunctions.] There's no good evidence for this or any other objection to getting a flu shot (unless you're allergic to eggs or there are other individual considerations--check with your doctor to make sure). There's a ridiculous amount of anti-vax hysteria going around among the credulous and ignorant. Most of it is pretty easily debunkable if you just check with reputable Web sites, like those for the CDC or NIH or Web MD. Yes, anti-vax positions are highly controversial, mostly because they're based on ignorance. For example, you get far more mercury from eating a piece of fish than from getting a flu shot. The amount in a flu shot is negligible. Same with aluminum. Babies get far more aluminum in breast milk than in a flu vaccine. As to the current flu happening, note that there are many different strains of flu happening in any given season. It's very rare, however, that a seasonal flu vaccine will miss the more significant strains of flu virus circulating in that season. But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity Give flu shots anyway to everyone going to the Domes to help keep the aggregate Dome meditation numbers high as they can Be? Well, to keep Fairfield residents generally as healthy as they can be, of course, since vaccinated Dome-goers will contribute to herd immunity in the larger community. But the Domes are probably excellent places to be exposed to the flu. Also crucially important, of course, is to wash the hands frequently. BTW, the flu shot wouldn't have done anything to keep you from getting the cold or bronchitis or pneumonia. You were right to stay home, though, once you'd caught the cold. Bronchitis and pneumonia both can be contagious as well. Older folk, BTW, should get the pneumonia vaccine. I think you only need it once rather than seasonally. That might have kept your bronchitis from progressing to pneumonia. Folks might want to check to see if there are any flu-shot clinics in the vicinity. According to Google Maps, Hy-Vee has them: Our Pharmacy is offering flu shots on most weekdays from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. during cold and flu season. For more details, contact our pharmacy at 641-472-4119. The cost of a flu shot is $25, but may be submitted to insurance for the co-pay price, or Medicare covers 100% of the cost of a flu shot. Remember it takes two weeks for the shot to become effective, so the sooner you get one, the better. Until new [flu] vaccines are developed, researchers say people should keep getting shots A report released today suggests the current vaccines offer moderate protection some years and less in others. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/efficacy-of-current-flu-vaccines-questioned-1.1273974 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/efficacy-of-current-flu-vaccines-questioned-1.1273974 But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity This public service announcement was brought to you by the American Pharmaceutical Industry where living is better through chemisty. Paranoid much? Flu shots are as much use as tits on a bo' hog. Meaning a boar hog, a male, who does not suckle the young, meaning of no use whatsoever. The strains of flu in the shot are almost never the strains that are actually going around - it is however one big ass scam on the part of Big Pharma, who additionally says its the people who have compromised immune systems who really really need the shots - which is a god damn lie. I have known a number of people including siddhas who had problems like lyme disease who got the flu shot at their doctors insistence and their health went downhill
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fw: Darwin The Survival of the Kindest
Share,
A member of another forum stated that the vagus nerve stimulation is a secret
practice by the senior members of the Masonic lodges. The revelation of this
secret had made him a target of threats and harassment from the Masonic
organization.
Also, he stated that Adam and Eve practiced vagus nerve stimulation which was
supposedly the real reason why they were banished from the Garden of Eden. I
personally have not heard of this interpretation of the Bible story. But it's
worth researching if any one here is interested.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
That's interesting, John. This article says something different. Maybe it has
something to do with the amount of stimulation.
On Monday, October 21, 2013 3:59 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote:
Share,
I heard that stimulation of the vagus nerve can lead to hallucinations similar
to an LSD experience. Also, those who were tortured, through waterboarding,
were experiencing hallucinations as well due to stimulation of the vagus
nerves.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Fascinating article which also includes insights about the vagus nerve and the
role of teasing...
http://www.dailygood.org/story/579/kindness-emotions-david-disalvo/
http://www.dailygood.org/story/579/kindness-emotions-david-disalvo/
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that Darwin saw human beings as competitive and self-interested, Keltner argues
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that humans have developed remarkable tendencies toward kindness, play,
generosity, reverence, and self-sacrifice that are vital to our survival as a
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Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fw: Darwin The Survival of the Kindest
John, I simply googled on Masonic vagus nerve and indeed found articles
supporting both your points either directly or indirectly. Some connection
between the vagus nerve and the knowledge of good and evil. And yes, something
about a Masonic practice. Also something about a mudra which involves the
tongue!
Anyway, on another front, I received a newsletter today from jyotishi Sam G
expressing concern for the eclipse on Nov 3. He predicts that there will be a
significant event at Fukushimo at that time.
On Monday, October 21, 2013 7:14 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Share,
A member of another forum stated that the vagus nerve stimulation is a secret
practice by the senior members of the Masonic lodges. The revelation of this
secret had made him a target of threats and harassment from the Masonic
organization.
Also, he stated that Adam and Eve practiced vagus nerve stimulation which was
supposedly the real reason why they were banished from the Garden of Eden. I
personally have not heard of this interpretation of the Bible story. But it's
worth researching if any one here is interested.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
That's interesting, John. This article says something different. Maybe it has
something to do with the amount of stimulation.
On Monday, October 21, 2013 3:59 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote:
Share,
I heard that stimulation of the vagus nerve can lead to hallucinations similar
to an LSD experience. Also, those who were tortured, through waterboarding,
were experiencing hallucinations as well due to stimulation of the vagus
nerves.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Fascinating article which also includes insights about the vagus nerve and the
role of teasing...
http://www.dailygood.org/story/579/kindness-emotions-david-disalvo/
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- Washington Irving -
Darwin The Survival of the Kindest
Dacher Keltner, director of the Berkeley Social Interaction Laboratory,
investigates what it means to live a good and meaningful life from the
fascinating perspectives of neurobiology, emotion science, and evolutionary
science. Contrary to the idea that Darwin saw human beings as competitive and
self-interested, Keltner argues that Darwin saw the human species as profoundly
social and caring. He explains that humans have developed remarkable tendencies
toward kindness, play, generosity, reverence, and self-sacrifice that are vital
to our survival as a species and are experienced through emotions such as
compassion, gratitude, awe, embarrassment, and mirth. He discusses findings
from the science of happiness that uncover familiar ways in which such goodness
can be cultivated in oneself and in others. { read more }
Be The Change
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[FairfieldLife] RE: A hole in the head - the solution to your problems?
For trepanation psuchophants ... http://www.gloje.org/en/phowa_dharma_auspicious_signs http://www.gloje.org/en/phowa_dharma_auspicious_signs Photos about a third way down the page. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Re noozguru/jr_esq: neither ayurveda nor astrology seem amenable to scientific evaluation. Don't know much about ayurveda? It's just biochemistry. On 10/20/2013 04:08 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: All of us are born with holes in our skulls. For most of us the hole space is sealed up by growing tissue by our first birthday. For some, however, the holes are never permanently sealed and so they are naturally treppaned. A medieval burial ground was recently investigated and researchers discovered something very intriguing. Almost all the remains of lower-caste people (peasants, labourers, etc) had normal skulls; almost all the skulls of the high caste (magistrates, church dignitaries, etc) had unsealed holes in their skulls. The link between high achievers and trepanation (naturally occurring in this case) is worth following up. I wonder if someone could investigate if high achievers today show a similar bias towards the holes. Shouldn't be too difficult to find out. The hole in the head thing isn't just for psychedelic druggies who want to stay high permanently but could be a way of enhancing creativity. As holes can be re-sealed later I wonder if an experiment involving volunteers and a control group might be feasible. Re noozguru/jr_esq: neither ayurveda nor astrology seem amenable to scientific evaluation. By the way, Countess Amanda Feilding I mention (the one who wanted free trepanning operations for everyone in the UK) actually performed her own trepanation on herself with a power drill! There's footage in the DVD. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, There's no need for this operation. Why? Because there is already a subtle and astrological connection between the top of the head to the star Polaris, the source of cosmic manifestation here on earth. Please, see my earlier post regarding Prisca Theologia for details of the lecture by Santos Bonacci regarding syncretism. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Seems a bit extreme. You can manipulate the metabolism to increase blood flow to the brain. That's something that ayurveda is good at. On 10/19/2013 07:30 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: A Hole in the Head is an hour-long documentary about trepanation - the process of boring a hole in the skull. It examines the development of modern trepanation as used by people in the UK, the USA, and the Netherlands for the purpose of attaining a higher level of consciousness. This procedure, used by the ancient Egyptians, Incas, and others, is believed by the voluntarily trepanned to allow for renewed brain pulsations that increase brain blood volume and thereby improve brain function. Interviews regarding the history and efficacy of the procedure are also held with some of the world's most respected neurosurgeons and anthropologists. There's an appearance by Countess Amanda Feilding. Twice Amanda stood for Parliament in Chelsea, London, as an independent on a manifesto with a singular topic - trepanning for free to everyone on the National Health Service! In 1979 she polled 40 votes, and in 1983 she managed 139. John Lennon tried (unsuccessfully) to persuade the other Beatles to undergo the procedure. If he'd succeeded maybe all those who followed the Fab Four from LSD to TM would now be treppaned! Ye gods! How boring and conformist modern society seems in comparison to those heady sixties. Does the procedure do what it is claimed? How about some enterprising FFLifers volunteering to undergo the operation and then reporting back to the forum on the benefits? I've seen the film and one of the sadder interviewees is a young woman who, following an accident, had a hole in her skull . She was very chirpy and upbeat when first seen. Her doctors advised her to have the hole sealed with surgery. An interview at the end of the film shows her after the operation and she is strikingly depressed! Is trepanation a fast-track to enlightenment? A newspaper article about the countess is here: http://tinyurl.com/y38drfk http://tinyurl.com/y38drfk The trailer for the DVD is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoU_-ru8yEc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoU_-ru8yEc; style=font-family:garamond, 'new york', times, serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:bold;
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: A hole in the head - the solution to your problems?
Excellent! That brings me right back to my childhood when, here in the UK, a series of books appeared - and were very popular - supposedly written by Lobsang Rampa. The first book was called The Third Eye and purported to relate his experiences while growing up in Tibet. The title of the book is derived from an operation, similar to trepanation, that Rampa claimed he had, in which a small hole was drilled into his forehead to arouse the third eye and allow stronger powers of clairvoyance. The author of the book was, in real life, a man named Cyril Henry Hoskin, who had been born in Plympton, Devon, in 1910 and was the son of a plumber. Hoskin had never been to Tibet and spoke no Tibetan. How curious that his fantasies actually had a correspondence in actual Tibetan beliefs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: For trepanation psuchophants ... http://www.gloje.org/en/phowa_dharma_auspicious_signs http://www.gloje.org/en/phowa_dharma_auspicious_signs Photos about a third way down the page. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Re noozguru/jr_esq: neither ayurveda nor astrology seem amenable to scientific evaluation. Don't know much about ayurveda? It's just biochemistry. On 10/20/2013 04:08 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: All of us are born with holes in our skulls. For most of us the hole space is sealed up by growing tissue by our first birthday. For some, however, the holes are never permanently sealed and so they are naturally treppaned. A medieval burial ground was recently investigated and researchers discovered something very intriguing. Almost all the remains of lower-caste people (peasants, labourers, etc) had normal skulls; almost all the skulls of the high caste (magistrates, church dignitaries, etc) had unsealed holes in their skulls. The link between high achievers and trepanation (naturally occurring in this case) is worth following up. I wonder if someone could investigate if high achievers today show a similar bias towards the holes. Shouldn't be too difficult to find out. The hole in the head thing isn't just for psychedelic druggies who want to stay high permanently but could be a way of enhancing creativity. As holes can be re-sealed later I wonder if an experiment involving volunteers and a control group might be feasible. Re noozguru/jr_esq: neither ayurveda nor astrology seem amenable to scientific evaluation. By the way, Countess Amanda Feilding I mention (the one who wanted free trepanning operations for everyone in the UK) actually performed her own trepanation on herself with a power drill! There's footage in the DVD. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, There's no need for this operation. Why? Because there is already a subtle and astrological connection between the top of the head to the star Polaris, the source of cosmic manifestation here on earth. Please, see my earlier post regarding Prisca Theologia for details of the lecture by Santos Bonacci regarding syncretism. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Seems a bit extreme. You can manipulate the metabolism to increase blood flow to the brain. That's something that ayurveda is good at. On 10/19/2013 07:30 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: A Hole in the Head is an hour-long documentary about trepanation - the process of boring a hole in the skull. It examines the development of modern trepanation as used by people in the UK, the USA, and the Netherlands for the purpose of attaining a higher level of consciousness. This procedure, used by the ancient Egyptians, Incas, and others, is believed by the voluntarily trepanned to allow for renewed brain pulsations that increase brain blood volume and thereby improve brain function. Interviews regarding the history and efficacy of the procedure are also held with some of the world's most respected neurosurgeons and anthropologists. There's an appearance by Countess Amanda Feilding. Twice Amanda stood for Parliament in Chelsea, London, as an independent on a manifesto with a singular topic - trepanning for free to everyone on the National Health Service! In 1979 she polled 40 votes, and in 1983 she managed 139. John Lennon tried (unsuccessfully) to persuade the other Beatles to undergo the procedure. If he'd succeeded maybe all those who followed the Fab Four from LSD to TM would now be treppaned! Ye gods! How boring and conformist modern society seems in comparison to those heady sixties. Does the procedure do what it is claimed? How about some enterprising FFLifers volunteering to undergo the operation and then reporting back to the forum on the benefits? I've seen the film and
[FairfieldLife] Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita
Seraphita, you may enjoy this article: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defence-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defence-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu (Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.) It's by Francis Spufford, a countryman of yours--you may even know of him. His book Unapologetic was just released in the U.S. From several excerpts I've read various places on the Web and this piece in the Guardian, it looks to be an informal, highly personal defense of Christianity (Anglican flavor). I'm tempted to buy it. See what you think.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: MUM and the Tree of Knowledge
Anybody have an image of the Wish-yielding Tree from the brochure to look at? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the wish-yielding tree that symbolizes the effortless ability to fulfill desires from the level of Natural Law. On the cover of a textbook for the Ideal Girls School: The cover, designed by Heather Hartnett, depicts the Kalp Vriksha, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One lapel pin I'd like to have is the Global Country of World Peace pin, the one with the graphic of the rising sun with its Golden rays. A little bit before LB Shriver passed away he gave me his SRM lapel pin, the intricate one with the face of Guru Dev Brahmananda Saraswati embossed on it and the words “In God Consciousness Peace Energy Happiness Jai Guru Dev SRM . I wear it along with my National Network to Freedom pin on my Quaker vest lapel. I'd add the Global Country pin if I had one. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Zoar [Ohio] prospered for 80 years. A seven pointed star of Bethlehem was chosen as the emblem and the acorn from which the mighty oak grows was their symbol of strength. The emblem of the separatists, a huge star in red, white and yellow. Members wore similar emblems on their shoulders to distinguish themselves from strangers visiting the village. [The emblem was really cool and obviously had a lot of symbolism in it. I looked all around the gift shop and bookstore to try to buy one or get a picture or postcard and there was none to be had as I recently visited Zoar.] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: SHAKER TREE OF LIFE This Shaker drawing, known as the Tree of Life, is the most famous of the all Shaker gift drawings. To the Shakers, fruit-bearing trees represented the unspoiled loveliness of the Garden of Eden. It was painted at Hancock Shaker Village in 1854. This is a limited edition serigraph (silk screen print) of the original. It is framed under glass in a solid cherry wood frame. Frame is finished with hand-rubbed oil and wax. Framed size is 26 wide x 21 high. Ready to hang. Made in USA. City of Peace Monday July, 3rd 1854. I received a draft of a beautiful Tree pencil'd on a large sheet of paper bearing ripe fruit. I saw it plainly; it looked very singular and curious to me. I have since learned that this tree grows in the Spirit Land. Afterwards the spirit shew'd me plainly the branches, leaves and fruit, painted or drawn upon paper. The leaves were check'd or cross'd and the same colors you see here. I entreated Mother Ann to tell me the name of this tree: which she did Oct. 1st 4th hour P.M. by moving the hand of a medium to write twice over Your Tree is the Tree of Life. Seen and painted by, Hannah Cohoon. This Shaker drawing is known as the Tree of Life. Each Shaker spirit drawing was preceded by a heavenly vision which was transferred to paper in meticulous detail. The Tree of Life was seen and painted by Sister Hanna Cohoon at the Hancock community in the summer of 1854. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The center piece of Zoar is the 3 acre religiously significant formal garden featuring the center tree of life. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: “And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.” ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: What connection, if any, does the story of the three wise men presenting gifts to the infant Jesus, have to do with the fact that even today we decorate trees during our most Holy Day of the year, just like it was the same Asian Tree of Plenty? A cargo cult? Also, is it a coincidence that the emblem for MUM is the Tree of Knowledge which is akin to the Bodhi Tree of the historical Buddha? Three motifs loom large on the stage of world mythology; the dying and rising tree spirit, the tree of life, the waxing and waning of the moon, and the cast-skin. The myth of immortality can be traced back to Neolithic times and had it's origin in Southeast Asia well over 5000 years ago. These myths through a process of diffusion and human migration have spread out in more complex combinations in Western mythology. In Asian mythology the fruit of the Tree of Plenty was discovered by children through experimentation. Their parents decided to cut the tree down to get the fruit. In this myth, the cutting down and destruction of the sacred tree acts as a trigger, or is necessary to the general distribution of its product
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: MUM and the Tree of Knowledge
Vedamerlin? I see in the FFL photos section the artwork for the Global Country emblem and flag. Also the tree of agriculture. Vedamerlin posted both. I'd like to be able to share them with some folks studying this kind of artwork but can't copy them out of the FFL photos section and people have to be FFL members to peek. Veda, can you send them in the body of an e-mail post to FFL so they can be seen by everyone? I would appreciate that and I think they would be appreciated by others if they could be seen. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Anybody have an image of the Wish-yielding Tree from the brochure to look at? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the wish-yielding tree that symbolizes the effortless ability to fulfill desires from the level of Natural Law. On the cover of a textbook for the Ideal Girls School: The cover, designed by Heather Hartnett, depicts the Kalp Vriksha, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One lapel pin I'd like to have is the Global Country of World Peace pin, the one with the graphic of the rising sun with its Golden rays. A little bit before LB Shriver passed away he gave me his SRM lapel pin, the intricate one with the face of Guru Dev Brahmananda Saraswati embossed on it and the words “In God Consciousness Peace Energy Happiness Jai Guru Dev SRM . I wear it along with my National Network to Freedom pin on my Quaker vest lapel. I'd add the Global Country pin if I had one. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Zoar [Ohio] prospered for 80 years. A seven pointed star of Bethlehem was chosen as the emblem and the acorn from which the mighty oak grows was their symbol of strength. The emblem of the separatists, a huge star in red, white and yellow. Members wore similar emblems on their shoulders to distinguish themselves from strangers visiting the village. [The emblem was really cool and obviously had a lot of symbolism in it. I looked all around the gift shop and bookstore to try to buy one or get a picture or postcard and there was none to be had as I recently visited Zoar.] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: SHAKER TREE OF LIFE This Shaker drawing, known as the Tree of Life, is the most famous of the all Shaker gift drawings. To the Shakers, fruit-bearing trees represented the unspoiled loveliness of the Garden of Eden. It was painted at Hancock Shaker Village in 1854. This is a limited edition serigraph (silk screen print) of the original. It is framed under glass in a solid cherry wood frame. Frame is finished with hand-rubbed oil and wax. Framed size is 26 wide x 21 high. Ready to hang. Made in USA. City of Peace Monday July, 3rd 1854. I received a draft of a beautiful Tree pencil'd on a large sheet of paper bearing ripe fruit. I saw it plainly; it looked very singular and curious to me. I have since learned that this tree grows in the Spirit Land. Afterwards the spirit shew'd me plainly the branches, leaves and fruit, painted or drawn upon paper. The leaves were check'd or cross'd and the same colors you see here. I entreated Mother Ann to tell me the name of this tree: which she did Oct. 1st 4th hour P.M. by moving the hand of a medium to write twice over Your Tree is the Tree of Life. Seen and painted by, Hannah Cohoon. This Shaker drawing is known as the Tree of Life. Each Shaker spirit drawing was preceded by a heavenly vision which was transferred to paper in meticulous detail. The Tree of Life was seen and painted by Sister Hanna Cohoon at the Hancock community in the summer of 1854. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The center piece of Zoar is the 3 acre religiously significant formal garden featuring the center tree of life. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: “And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.” ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: What connection, if any, does the story of the three wise men presenting gifts to the infant Jesus, have to do with the fact that even today we decorate trees during our most Holy Day of the year, just like it was the same Asian Tree of Plenty? A cargo cult? Also, is it a coincidence that the emblem for MUM is the Tree of Knowledge which is akin to the Bodhi Tree of the historical Buddha? Three motifs loom large on the stage of world mythology; the dying and rising tree spirit, the tree of life, the waxing
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: MUM and the Tree of Knowledge
Buck, with the photo you want on your screen, you should see an icon in the lower right-hand corner that looks like an arrow pointing downward into a box. It stands for Download, I assume. Anyway, click the icon, and you should be prompted to save it to your hard disk. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Vedamerlin? I see in the FFL photos section the artwork for the Global Country emblem and flag. Also the tree of agriculture. Vedamerlin posted both. I'd like to be able to share them with some folks studying this kind of artwork but can't copy them out of the FFL photos section and people have to be FFL members to peek. Veda, can you send them in the body of an e-mail post to FFL so they can be seen by everyone? I would appreciate that and I think they would be appreciated by others if they could be seen. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] RE: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita
Re Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.: Indeed - but only after a reader's comment alerted the sub editor to the error! Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of course, part of the problem Christians have with the New Atheists is that they - the Christians - have insisted on a literal interpretation for so long that it seems evasive when they now back-pedal to a more existential defence of the Faith. You've read GK Chesterton's essay The Ethics of Elfland haven't you? If not, please do. It's short and sweet and I'm sure would drive Dawkins completely bonkers. His view of Christianity is very much this-world centred (rather than other-worldly) but is very far from being pessimistic. It's actually rather cheerful, which is what Gospel (Good News) should be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, you may enjoy this article: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defence-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defence-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu (Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.) It's by Francis Spufford, a countryman of yours--you may even know of him. His book Unapologetic was just released in the U.S. From several excerpts I've read various places on the Web and this piece in the Guardian, it looks to be an informal, highly personal defense of Christianity (Anglican flavor). I'm tempted to buy it. See what you think.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita
Seraphita wrote: Re Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.: Indeed - but only after a reader's comment alerted the sub editor to the error! Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of course, part of the problem Christians have with the New Atheists is that they - the Christians - have insisted on a literal interpretation for so long that it seems evasive when they now back-pedal to a more existential defence of the Faith. Well, he addresses this very problem, but then goes on to make an awfully good point: I am a fairly orthodox Christian. Every Sunday I say and do my best to mean the whole of the Creed, which is a series of propositions. But it is still a mistake to suppose that it is assent to the propositions that makes you a believer. It is the feelings that are primary. I assent to the ideas because I have the feelings; I don't have the feelings because I've assented to the ideas. You've read GK Chesterton's essay The Ethics of Elfland haven't you? If not, please do. It's short and sweet and I'm sure would drive Dawkins completely bonkers. His view of Christianity is very much this-world centred (rather than other-worldly) but is very far from being pessimistic. It's actually rather cheerful, which is what Gospel (Good News) should be. Haven't read any Chesterton. I recently downloaded a collection of his essays, which I hadn't yet gotten around to reading, but hat one isn't among them. I just found it on the Web, however, and will have a look when I get the chance, thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, you may enjoy this article: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defence-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defence-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu (Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.) It's by Francis Spufford, a countryman of yours--you may even know of him. His book Unapologetic was just released in the U.S. From several excerpts I've read various places on the Web and this piece in the Guardian, it looks to be an informal, highly personal defense of Christianity (Anglican flavor). I'm tempted to buy it. See what you think.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita
What I don't understand -- on either the believers' side or the atheists' side -- is this compulsion to defend their faith, or their lack thereof. It seems *completely* ego-driven to me, almost as insane as someone declaring that their view -- and only their view -- of vaccination is RIGHT, and anyone disagreeing with it is WRONG. And there are actually a few facts in the case of vaccination; there are none with regard to the existence or non-existence of a God. It's a BELIEF, people. Or the lack of one. Get over it. There is no need to argue for one's point of view, or to try to convert someone to believe it. That is the very stuff of ego, and of a *lack* of comfort with one's beliefs. Evangelism is a sign of weakness, not strength. I roll my eyes at the in-your-face atheists as much as I do at the in-your-face believers. BOTH are just acting out a seemingly eternal ME, ME, ME...*I* am RIGHT, and if you disagree, you're WRONG soap opera. And I, for one, just don't get it. What ever happened to -- if someone asks -- explaining what you believe or don't believe, and then LEAVING IT THERE? No need for argument (especially about something that can never be proved one way or another), no need to assert dominance or superiority, no need to try to bolster one's shaky faith by trying to convert someone to share it. All of that stuff is so PETTY in my opinion. If you feel compelled to *declare* your faith or lack thereof, why not just do so, in a single article or post, and then STFU? If others dispute it or disagree with it, they are free to respond with a single article or post or comment themselves. This would be the way that sane people would address issues that *can never be resolved*. But to ARGUE? I'm tempted to repeat a story I've probably (being an old fart who occasionally repeats himself) told before, how the first arrival of Europeans was seen by the Japanese. Their history books refer to this period as the Arrival of the Barbarians. And WHY? Primarily because of this issue of attempting to argue or force one's faith on other people. That was an extreme No-No in feudal Japan. One believed what one believed, mainly kept it to oneself, and allowed others to do the same. It was *unthinkable* to try to convert someone to your set of beliefs or lack thereof. Then the barbarians arrived, with their European (and Catholic) sensibilities, and tried (often using violence and torture) to convert the people they considered heathens to believe the same things they did. Suffice it to say that the Japanese were unimpressed, and after a short trial period of dealing with these barbarians, banned them from their shores for some centuries, until a fleet of gunships made them (again, using force) to reconsider. I know that this complaint about arguing is a recurring theme with me, but hey!, it's a recurring theme on this forum. There are some here who are SO addicted to arguing and trying to assert their dominance that they like to pretend that argumentation is the *only* way that people can or should interact. I suggest they have it wrong, and that it's the *only* way that THEY can interact with other people. For them, everything's always gotta be about ME, and what *I* believe or assert, and any deviation with that is viewed as a slap in the face, a challenge to participate in a duel. I think it's silly, and juvenile, and based on overblown ego and addiction to one's attachments. I wish they'd fuckin' grow up and get over it, already. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.: Indeed - but only after a reader's comment alerted the sub editor to the error! Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of course, part of the problem Christians have with the New Atheists is that they - the Christians - have insisted on a literal interpretation for so long that it seems evasive when they now back-pedal to a more existential defence of the Faith. You've read GK Chesterton's essay The Ethics of Elfland haven't you? If not, please do. It's short and sweet and I'm sure would drive Dawkins completely bonkers. His view of Christianity is very much this-world centred (rather than other-worldly) but is very far from being pessimistic. It's actually rather cheerful, which is what Gospel (Good News) should be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita, you may enjoy this article: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defen\ ce-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/31/trouble-with-athiests-defen\ ce-of-faith?CMP=twt_gu (Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.) It's by Francis Spufford, a countryman of yours--you may even know of him. His book Unapologetic was just released in the U.S. From several excerpts I've read various places on the Web and this piece in the
[FairfieldLife] Arabs descendants of Ishmael??
Are all Arabs descendants of Ishmael, the son of Abraham and Sara's Egyptian slave Hagar (uncertain)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites Maqrizi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maqrizi says that Moses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses wiped out almost all non-Ishmaelite Arabs such as Amaleq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaleq and Midianites http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midianites,[14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites#cite_note-14 and by the time of Muhammad all Arabs were descendents of Ishmael according to historians Hisham Ibn Al-Kalbi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hisham_Ibn_Al-Kalbi and al-Sharqi who believed that all Arabs were descendents of Ishmael including the Qahtanites.[15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites#cite_note-15
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita
Second thought: Seraphita wrote: (snip) Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of course, part of the problem Christians have with the New Atheists is that they - the Christians - have insisted on a literal interpretation for so long that it seems evasive when they now back-pedal to a more existential defence of the Faith. I don't know if literal interpretation is quite the right phrase, if you mean biblical literalism; that's really the province of fundamentalists, and they're a fairly recent development. Plus which, they're only one segment of Christianity (even in the U.S.). Spufford refers to Christians making truth claims, which I think is closer to the mark. One can make truth claims aplenty without being a biblical literalist.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Trouble with Atheists for Seraphita
Nobody's doing that here, Barry. You don't actually read the posts, so you have no idea what it is we've been discussing. And you didn't read the article Seraphita and I were talking about. Your little rant is being made in a vacuum; it's irrelevant to anything currently going on. And not for the first time, either. Barry wrote: What I don't understand -- on either the believers' side or the atheists' side -- is this compulsion to defend their faith, or their lack thereof. It seems *completely* ego-driven to me, almost as insane as someone declaring that their view -- and only their view -- of vaccination is RIGHT, and anyone disagreeing with it is WRONG. And there are actually a few facts in the case of vaccination; there are none with regard to the existence or non-existence of a God. It's a BELIEF, people. Or the lack of one. Get over it. There is no need to argue for one's point of view, or to try to convert someone to believe it. That is the very stuff of ego, and of a *lack* of comfort with one's beliefs. Evangelism is a sign of weakness, not strength. I roll my eyes at the in-your-face atheists as much as I do at the in-your-face believers. BOTH are just acting out a seemingly eternal ME, ME, ME...*I* am RIGHT, and if you disagree, you're WRONG soap opera. And I, for one, just don't get it. What ever happened to -- if someone asks -- explaining what you believe or don't believe, and then LEAVING IT THERE? No need for argument (especially about something that can never be proved one way or another), no need to assert dominance or superiority, no need to try to bolster one's shaky faith by trying to convert someone to share it. All of that stuff is so PETTY in my opinion. If you feel compelled to *declare* your faith or lack thereof, why not just do so, in a single article or post, and then STFU? If others dispute it or disagree with it, they are free to respond with a single article or post or comment themselves. This would be the way that sane people would address issues that *can never be resolved*. But to ARGUE? I'm tempted to repeat a story I've probably (being an old fart who occasionally repeats himself) told before, how the first arrival of Europeans was seen by the Japanese. Their history books refer to this period as the Arrival of the Barbarians. And WHY? Primarily because of this issue of attempting to argue or force one's faith on other people. That was an extreme No-No in feudal Japan. One believed what one believed, mainly kept it to oneself, and allowed others to do the same. It was *unthinkable* to try to convert someone to your set of beliefs or lack thereof. Then the barbarians arrived, with their European (and Catholic) sensibilities, and tried (often using violence and torture) to convert the people they considered heathens to believe the same things they did. Suffice it to say that the Japanese were unimpressed, and after a short trial period of dealing with these barbarians, banned them from their shores for some centuries, until a fleet of gunships made them (again, using force) to reconsider. I know that this complaint about arguing is a recurring theme with me, but hey!, it's a recurring theme on this forum. There are some here who are SO addicted to arguing and trying to assert their dominance that they like to pretend that argumentation is the *only* way that people can or should interact. I suggest they have it wrong, and that it's the *only* way that THEY can interact with other people. For them, everything's always gotta be about ME, and what *I* believe or assert, and any deviation with that is viewed as a slap in the face, a challenge to participate in a duel. I think it's silly, and juvenile, and based on overblown ego and addiction to one's attachments. I wish they'd fuckin' grow up and get over it, already. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.: Indeed - but only after a reader's comment alerted the sub editor to the error! Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of course, part of the problem Christians have with the New Atheists is that they - the Christians - have insisted on a literal interpretation for so long that it seems evasive when they now back-pedal to a more existential defence of the Faith. You've read GK Chesterton's essay The Ethics of Elfland haven't you? If not, please do. It's short and sweet and I'm sure would drive Dawkins completely bonkers. His view of Christianity is very much this-world centred (rather than other-worldly) but is very far from being pessimistic. It's actually rather cheerful, which is what Gospel (Good News) should be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
