date:20131208

Read the thread? I started it - tell Bill to start his own thread if he 
wants to dialog about human sacrifice, if he knows how, and stop trying 
to wreck this one, which is about MMY's seven states of consciousness. 
Any intelligent seeker coming here to read would think he's an idiot 
with ADD or something. Thanks.

Basic, standard web Internet protocols:

1. Try to stay on topic.
2. If you want to change the subject, start a new thread.
3. Don't try to wreck a thread by posting off-topic speculations on one 
line.

On 12/7/2013 10:05 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Read the thread from the top down.

[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

 My reply post to this has been deleted.  The album cover was simply too 
traumatizing and gross even for me.  I had a nightmare and am up at 4:30.  My 
apologies to you all who get email.  Please forgive me.  It's Sunday - I will 
pray and do penance today.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

We don't attend many big stadium performances or many touring shows 
anymore either - bad sound, hard to find a parking spot, and expensive. 
The last big event we saw was The River Walk Blues Festival in 2006. We 
much prefer smaller clubs where we can really get into the music and 
have some fun dancing, drinking beer, yelling and stuff.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Austin

On 12/7/2013 10:29 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'll have to visit. Here in the UK I was a big fan of the pub-rock 
scene in the 70s/80s which despised big-ego stadium bands

[FairfieldLife] RE: The perfect Christmas gift for Bhairitu

These sold out in the first 30 minutes.  It was on the nightly news.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Congress Fears Out of Control Obama Could Suspend Election Laws

After a year of messy contemplation, I just purchased a used 32' RV, using my 
sense of smell - Self-contained (you can save about $80,000 by buying used, 
with lo miles).  Phase two is purchasing ~5 to 10 acres of land in the Sierra 
foothills, or south of here. Phase three is to buy, and construct a big quonset 
hut studio (1000 sq ft.) - they come in kits. I like the convenience of urban 
areas, and am keeping the house I have, but I really crave a place of solitude, 
also, where I can immerse myself in the religion of art, without the dogma - 
painting the stars at 3 AM, etc.:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Jimmy Vaughan

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The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tuff Enuff, live on Austin City Limits
http://youtu.be/gqc3jWtE2CY

Jimmie Vaughan, brother of Stevie Ray Vaughan, has played with Eric
Clapton, Robert Cray, and BB King, and many others during the 2010
Crossroads Guitar Festival. Vaughan has been awarded four Grammy Awards.
The song Tuff Enuff was a Top 40 hit, peaking at #10 on the Billboard Hot
100 in 1986. Since 1997 Fender has produced a Jimmie Vaughan Tex-Mex
Stratocaster. One of my favorite albums:  Powerful Stuff, 1989.

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_Vaughan

The Fabulous Thunderbirds:

On the evening of February 16, 2000, The Fabulous Thunderbirds made
history, becoming the first band ever to be broadcast on the Internet using
high-definition cameras. The band's first four albums, released between
1979 and 1983, are ranked among the most important 'white blues'
recordings. There have been numerous personel changes in the band; the band
started out in 1976 with Kim Wilson performing vocals and harmonica; Jimmie
Vaughan on guitar; Keith Ferguson on bass; and Mike Buck and Fran Christina
on drums.

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabulous_Thunderbirds

Jimmie Vaughan loves classic and custom cars, and is an avid car collector.
Vaughan has had many of his customs and hot rods displayed in museums, as
well as featured in rodding and custom magazines.

Read more:

Street Rodder Magazine
January 1985
p. 55

Rod  Custom Magazine
April 2000
pp. 88-91





On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh, yeah! The Elevators, with Roky Erikson and jug player Tommy Hall, who
 used to play at the old Vulcan Gas Company in Austin back in 1965 - that's
 where I met my ex-wife, Sally Mann. I also met Janis Joplin at the Vulcan
 on South Congress Street. Before I split up with Sally we saw the Elevators
 at The Fillmore West and The Avalon Ballroom when we moved out to San
 Francisco. They were a very cool band to dance to live, but like a lot of
 other guys, really hooked on ecstasy or something, probably weed. Go
 figure. Thanks for the memories!

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 13th Floor Elevators - Youre Gonna Miss Me
 http://youtu.be/47SI1FddVqY

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Floor_Elevators


 On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Talking about Austin City: did you ever see The 13th Floor Elevators?
 They intrigued me because they pioneered both the raw garage approach to
 recording and the psychedelic soundscape. They're one of those bands most
 people today won't know but who were amazingly influential over the long
 term.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPBJsdE9V14

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure. Thanks 
for the link to the punk band. LoL!


On 12/8/2013 6:52 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:


 My reply post to this has been deleted.  The album cover was simply 
too traumatizing and gross even for me.  I had a nightmare and am up 
at 4:30.  My apologies to you all who get email.  Please forgive me. 
 It's Sunday - I will pray and do penance today.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

But why the nuke subs and naval cruisers anyway?
Is there a reason they started all this taunt around the anniversary day of
infamy? Pearl Harbor?

authfriend@... wrote:

You do know the Chinese aren't going to bomb us, right?

The chinese central committee secured a really great big slab of Iowa hog with
this purchase for themselves . Big money industrial agriculturalists proly just
would say, the more Iowa hogs owned by China the safer we all are in Iowa. Is
that what free trade is all about? Making your enemy your partner in
concentrated hog feeding confinements? I sense the land grab to move more
people out of the countryside accelerating all the faster and a lot more hog
confinements in Iowa for China now as a new part of our national security
strategy. Would you rather have a missile silo or a hog confinement next to
your town as part of a defense shield?

The chinese got a good foot hold already going in Iowa. As meditators we are
proly safe in Fairfield from the destruction of LA and Seattle; the chinese
reds would proly only use low yield bombs on the West coast to preserve their
holdings in Iowa. Red china bought and owns Smithfield Hogs.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/smithfield-shareholders-approve-record-chinese-tak/?page=all

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/smithfield-shareholders-approve-record-chinese-tak/?page=all

The communist chinese over-seers are not going to nuke their own real estate
holdings in Iowa hog production. That would not make sense considering some of
the best soil in the whole world is here in Iowa to feed all their chinese
billions.

Buck, not to mention all their exchange students, etc. at MUM and in the Domes!

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:08 AM, Buck wrote:

In Fairfield, Iowa we are proly okay or safe enough from what will be a West
coast radiation fall-out plume. It would be in the red Chinese interests to not
radiate their farm land in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

I would think 2.3 billion would be a bit of a large number for the US and then
that would probably take rolling in things like yoga classes offered at
fitness centers. And if global, India would really skew the numbers. :-D

It's like their looking for a next big thing.

On 12/06/2013 10:51 AM,Buck wrote:

Yes, Bhairitu is entirely right, it clearly is not just some new-agers
consuming some spiritual trinkets. It is a much larger problem. However, we
do know from the example of the Meissner Effect [ME] that just a few of us can
change things; even the course of history.
Yep, frivolous consumerism is seriously perilous in so many ways. We
evidently all just need more Self-discipline around both our incessant
materialism and then actually taking the time for meditation. Taking quiet
time twice a day at the least to practice a transcending meditation. -Buck

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

I think that $230 billion a year is globally not the US. Otherwise there
would new age shops on every corner. Many in this area have closed up since
the 1990s. And also I think they are folding not necessarily new age in to
their count such as environmental items.

On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:

In the meanwhile, let's hold the chinese reds off by staying current on our
payments of consumer debt to them. Prudently let us tighten the belt, spend
a lot more time meditating and a lot less time and credit on frivolous
consumer goods.

I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a year on New
Age products:

http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-features/new_age_products/

And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year market in seminars
and self-improvement programs.

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/

There's a sucker reborn every minute. - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva Barnum

[FairfieldLife] RE: Congress Fears Out of Control Obama Could Suspend Election Laws

2013-12-08 Thread awoelflebater



 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 After a year of messy contemplation, I just purchased a used 32' RV, using my 
sense of smell - Self-contained (you can save about $80,000 by buying used, 
with lo miles).  Phase two is purchasing ~5 to 10 acres of land in the Sierra 
foothills, or south of here. Phase three is to buy, and construct a big quonset 
hut studio (1000 sq ft.) - they come in kits. I like the convenience of urban 
areas, and am keeping the house I have, but I really crave a place of solitude, 
also, where I can immerse myself in the religion of art, without the dogma - 
painting the stars at 3 AM, etc.:-)

 

 I simply find that the thought of ever living in the US again rather daunting. 
I have not actually lived in the States since 1984 and even then it was only 
for about 11 years (from 1973 - 1984) since I had moved away to Europe 
initially at 9 years old and lived there until I was 17. I think what really 
did it for me was 9/11 because since then I have come to realize that there is 
so much misplaced patriotism and fear. Both of these things seem to have 
created a very selfish and paranoid type of citizen that I find depressing and 
even suppressing. There is this strange feeling of narrow mindedness in many 
quarters and it sort of scares me and makes me think the US is not long for 
this world - lack of real vision and broad mindedness can lead to the demise of 
things and people. I am sure my thoughts here will piss some of you off but 
there you have it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

What can any of us individually do to avert this danger?
Meditate and act with discipline together.
That is what any of us can do to avert this danger;
Bolster our collective forces in defense,
including more meditation.
-Buck

But why the nuke subs and naval cruisers anyway?
Is there a reason they started all this taunt around the anniversary day of
infamy? Pearl Harbor?

authfriend@... wrote:

You do know the Chinese aren't going to bomb us, right?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/smithfield-shareholders-approve-record-chinese-tak/?page=all

Buck, not to mention all their exchange students, etc. at MUM and in the Domes!

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:08 AM, Buck wrote:

In Fairfield, Iowa we are proly okay or safe enough from what will be a West
coast radiation fall-out plume. It would be in the red Chinese interests to not
radiate their farm land in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

It's like their looking for a next big thing.

On 12/06/2013 10:51 AM,Buck wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:

I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a year on New
Age products:

http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-features/new_age_products/

And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year market in seminars
and self-improvement programs.

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/

There's a sucker reborn every minute. - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva Barnum

[FairfieldLife] Swami Muktananda

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Jackson

Much of this letter could easily apply to the Big M.

excerpts from

Letter From a Former Swami

by Stan Trout

I’d like to add this letter, if possible, as an appendix to the article on 
Muktananda by William Rodarmor. It is a statement of my thoughts and opinions 
of Muktananda after two years of deep deliberation following my discovery of 
his ‘secret life’.
One has only to observe the way each of us who discovered the guru’s secret 
life were treated by our former comrades to understand the power for evil 
inherent in any relationship based on the infallibility of the leader and the 
unquestioned obedience of the subjects...Out of a love for truth and for those 
who teach it and appear to embody it, we unwittingly set ourselves up for 
exploitation and betrayal. Our mistake is to deify another being and attribute 
perfection to him. From that point on everything is admissible.

About Muktananda himself I have thought a great deal. There is no doubt in my 
mind that he was an extraordinarily enlightened, learned, and articulate man 
who possessed a singular power, a dynamic personal radiance and 
charisma...Surely such a power is divine; yet there is no way to justify the 
way in which he used this power. 

...he staged a deliberate campaign of deceit to convince gentle souls that he 
had transcended the limitations of mankind, that through realizing the eternal 
Self, he had attained holy perfection...he cunningly stole from hundreds of 
trusting souls their hearts and wills, their self-trust, their very sanity, 
their very lives. No ordinary, good person could do this, no matter how he 
tried; his heart and conscience would not allow it.

Like all of us, Muktananda was only human. And, like all men who worship power, 
he was inevitably corrupted and destroyed by it. His power could not save him 
form the weakness of the flesh, nor from the wickedness and depravity that 
servitude to it brings. He ended as a feeble-minded sadistic tyrant, luring 
devout little girls to his bed every night with promises of grace and 
self-realization.

Muktananda’s claim of perfection (Siddha-hood) was based on the notion that a 
person who has become enlightened has thereby also become perfect and 
absolutely free of human weakness. This is nonsense; it is a myth perpetrated 
by dishonest men who wish to receive the reverence and adoration due God alone. 
There is no absolute assurance that enlightenment necessitates the moral virtue 
of a person. There is no guarantee against the weakness of anger, lust, and 
greed in the human soul. The enlightened are on an equal footing with the 
ignorant in the struggle against their own evil - the only difference being 
that the enlightened personknows the truth, and has no excuse for betraying it.

 God is not mocked; there is no freedom, no liberation, from His law of love, 
nor from His inescapable justice. It is indeed often those very persons who 
have thought themselves most perfect, most free and ungoverned, who have fallen 
most grievously; and their piteous fall is an occasion for great sadness, and 
should serve as a clear reminder of caution to us all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

My Yahoo Mail hasn't been down at all.
 
Richard wrote:

  If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Jake Clark#39;s Story: How one warrior was saved from suicide

2013-12-08 Thread nablusoss1008


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SibyiIAbKf4feature=youtu.be 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SibyiIAbKf4feature=youtu.be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese generals,
some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a couple of red
narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war room of the old Palace
playing with the controls of nuke subs and cruisers, and we got problems. This
is for real. A fleet of nuke-armed naval subs and cruisers.

But why the nuke subs and naval cruisers anyway?
Is there a reason they started all this taunt around the anniversary day of
infamy? Pearl Harbor?

authfriend@... wrote:

You do know the Chinese aren't going to bomb us, right?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/smithfield-shareholders-approve-record-chinese-tak/?page=all

Buck, not to mention all their exchange students, etc. at MUM and in the Domes!

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:08 AM, Buck wrote:

In Fairfield, Iowa we are proly okay or safe enough from what will be a West
coast radiation fall-out plume. It would be in the red Chinese interests to not
radiate their farm land in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

It's like their looking for a next big thing.

On 12/06/2013 10:51 AM,Buck wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:

I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a year on New
Age products:

http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-features/new_age_products/

And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year market in seminars
and self-improvement programs.

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/

There's a sucker reborn every minute. - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva Barnum

Re: [FairfieldLife] Honesty

Ah, turq, thanks, you gave me a good laugh this snowy morning. Plus my internet 
at home is still down. I'm actually in Argiro Student Center on MUM campus. 
Hey, I figure I'm an alumni! And there are no students queuing up for the 
computer.

Anyway, hopefully I will return... 



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:08 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Having spent some time in Human Resources interviewing people, this one has 
always tickled me. I would have hired him.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Richard, could it be yahoo and not my server?! I got a service call into my 
Internet provider, fiber optic Lisco, very fast. Anyway, keep up the good work 
(-:



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 8:30 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  
If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure. Thanks for the 
link to the punk band. LoL!

On 12/8/2013 6:52 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
 My reply post to this has been deleted.  The album cover was simply too 
traumatizing and gross even for me.  I had a nightmare and am up at 4:30.  My 
apologies to you all who get email.  Please forgive me.  It's Sunday - I will 
pray and do penance today.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chromebook Review

I've been using my Chromebook laptop with the Chromecast USB device and it
works well. The Chrome Browser provided the interface I always wanted to
manage my streaming media from Amazon, Netflix and Hulu using a Wi-Fi home
connection. I've also been using Google Mail for several years and you
can't beat Google Search. On my Chromebook, I can use Google Apps like
Google Docs and Pixeltr for editing images - they are free.

And, I get several gigabytes of free space from Google on the cloud for two
years, where I can store all my stuff. I can access my stuff from any
computer anywhere and anytime I want to. And, I don't need to buy any
expensive Microsoft software or Norton Anti-virus. My Chromebook is very
light-weight and boots up almost instantly with the SSD inside. And, with
this 4th generation Chromebook, I can work on apps even when I'm not on the
web.

What's not to like? I hate chiclet keyboards on these kinds of machines,
but I can live with it, since most laptops have them these days. I can't
stand entering data on any tablet or device using a touch screen keyboard!
(I've still got my old 15 inch IBM Thinkpad with it's great keyboard, but
it weighs a ton and takes eternity to boot up.)

Did I tell you the Acer Chromebook costs only $199.00?

It’s pretty much a brick, says Pawn Stars’ Rick Harrison as he rejects a
Samsung Chromebook brought in by an actor playing a customer. Microsoft
really does not want you buying this thing. But why? Just how big of a
threat are Chromebooks, Google’s oft-ridiculed web-only laptops, to
Microsoft’s core business?

'Why is Microsoft scared of Chromebooks?'
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/6/5181974/why-is-microsoft-scared-of-chromebooks

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

So,why is Microsoft worried about Chromebooks? Because it can see the
writing on the wall?

Microsoft wants you to believe that you can't do anything with a
Chromebook when you're offline. That's just plain wrong at this point.

'Microsoft Should Be Worried About Google’s Chromebooks'
http://techcrunch.com/about-googles-chromebookshttp://techcrunch.com/2013/12/01/microsoft-should-be-worried-about-googles-chromebooks/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0591

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

P.S. The Acer Chromebook C7 (Model 720-2802) with 2GB memory and 16GB
solid state drive, an 1.4 GHz Intel dual-core Celeron processor, with an HD
graphics chip, is a 4th generation Chromebook, NOT to be confused with the
Acer C7 Chromebook, the one with the 320 GB hard drive and 4GB of memory.

'Microsoft Hires ‘Pawn Stars’ to Bash Google Chromebooks'

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/11/26/microsoft-hires-pawn-stars-to-bash-google-chromebooks/?mod=yahoo_hs

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Richard Williams
pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

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Chromebook

The Acer Chromebook is a laptop computer which runs on the Chrome OS,
(which is based on Unix). The Chromebook does not run any Windows software,
only applications designed for the Chrome OS. There are hundreds, if not
thousands, of Google apps to choose from at the Google Store - there's even
an app for photo editing, (you can also install Linux on the Chromebook).
Google OS is open source. You don't have to buy any expensive software to
use for personal productivity tools.

It's a dual-core machine with an 11.2 inch screen and is very light
weight, almost like an Ultrabook. It has a solid-state drive inside and
boots up almost instantly. Battery life is very long because it doesn't
have a mechanical hard disk inside. So, there's hardly anything to wear out.

The Chromebook automatically updates the OS every time you boot up and
most of the software is free: the Google Chrome web browser, Google Docs,
Google Sheets, Google Play, and Google Slides come already installed.
Google owns YouTube, so that also comes with linked in the Chrome browser.
Chrome OS has a decent file manager and a neat Search function key. The
Chromebook does not have a CD-DVD device, but it has Wi-Fi built in, and
two USB ports, one a USB-3, a mini HDMI port, and and a DVI connection, as
well as an ethernet jack for networking in your home office.

Chromebooks are 'internet books' because they work on the internet. You
can save stuff locally but it is designed to work on the Google Cloud,
which is also free. When you save a doc it gets saved to the cloud. You can
then access the doc using any computer that is connected to the internet.
All you have to do is sign in to Google to get your mail, docs, music and
images or videos.

However, the Chromebook needs an internet connection in order to operate
with the cloud, (although you can do some limited work when you don't have
an internet connection). A computer is not a real computer without an
internet connection!

So, what's to like?

The Acer Chromebook is only $199 - I paid over $850 for my Toshiba

Re: [FairfieldLife] The perfect Christmas gift for Bhairitu

I think they should have a different color for guys (-:



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:36 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Just sayin'. :-)

http://foodbeast.com/2013/12/05/starbucks-unveils-450-rose-metal-gift-cards/ 

But isn't this an interesting sign of the times. People will be waiting 
online to hit the Send button and wait to see if they're among the lucky 1,000 
to get one of these cards -- either as a gift, or for themselves. So that they 
can flash a rose-pink metal cards at Starbucks, and watch people go Woo. 
:-)

Le monde est fou, fou, fou...

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Whatever

emptybill, what is the ESSSENCE of being a tantrika? IMO it's being at home 
with good and bad. I think turq has that. Of  course I could be wrong about 
that. And everything else! So what?!



On Saturday, December 7, 2013 6:02 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Since when is Turq an actual, real Tantrika?
Freddy was Mr. B.S. Guru ... so he doesn't count.

As far as represented, Turq is a TINO, Tantric in Name Only.
If a real Tantrika, I have some of the standard questions:

Who was or is his teacher/lineage?

What teachings did he receive which he still practices?
What do you know that makes you think he is a real Tantrika?

[FairfieldLife] Secessionists Grow in Rural States

2013-12-08 Thread jr_esq

This could happen as more people are moving out of rural areas of the states to 
bigger cities.  Will the new state of Jefferson be created in northern 
California?   
 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/rural-america-secessionist-sentiment-stirs-050913017.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rural-america-secessionist-sentiment-stirs-050913017.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

This is ominous as hell. I apologize for the strong language here but we should
sit up in meditation around this. This is a call to mediation in meditation.
This is a call to surround the situation with deep transcending meditation.
This is now our wake-up call to meditation to neutralize and avert the danger
before it really comes. It is time now to mobilize against this great and
destablizing threat the Chinese are pulling on us. It is time for our global
countries for world peace all to deploy a lot more meditation in special forces
to that part of the world around the Chinese people. Sincerely,
-Buck

But why the nuke subs and naval cruisers anyway?
Is there a reason they started all this taunt around the anniversary day of
infamy? Pearl Harbor?

authfriend@... wrote:

You do know the Chinese aren't going to bomb us, right?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/smithfield-shareholders-approve-record-chinese-tak/?page=all

Buck, not to mention all their exchange students, etc. at MUM and in the Domes!

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:08 AM, Buck wrote:

In Fairfield, Iowa we are proly okay or safe enough from what will be a West
coast radiation fall-out plume. It would be in the red Chinese interests to not
radiate their farm land in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

It's like their looking for a next big thing.

On 12/06/2013 10:51 AM,Buck wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Seven states of Consciousness

Ok, emptybill, all I'm saying is that men have also been involved in killing, 
maybe not ritual killing, but killing nonetheless. And what about the 
Inquisition? Wasn't that pretty male dominated?! Anyway, we've all been 
victims, perps and rescuers down through our various lives. Good time to burn 
off all that karma imho.



On Saturday, December 7, 2013 4:47 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
The Romans were horrified by the practice of human sacrifice which they found 
during their conquests. They not only banned it but also persecuted anyone 
found practicing it. 


The Roman ideal was the Spartan civilization of heroic men performing valiant 
deeds in battle. Think of the movie Gladiator where not even a trace of 
Christian sentiments intruded. 


The Minoans apparently practiced some degree of ritual human sacrifice. You 
know the type. Like what the women practice here on FFL.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Swami Muktananda

Neither Muktananda nor MMY has anything to do with your spiritual 
practice or your progress on a spiritual path. It's all up to you, 
whether or not you have a spiritual practice or not. You make your own 
decisions in life - it's not a solution just to blame others for your 
own failures. This isn't news - you are living in the past. It might be 
more helpful for you to post something that would explain the mechanics 
of consciousness - both these guys are dead and gone.


On 12/8/2013 8:52 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:


Much of this letter could easily apply to the Big M.

excerpts from

Letter From a Former Swami

by Stan Trout

I’d like to add this letter, if possible, as an appendix to the 
article on Muktananda by William Rodarmor. It is a statement of my 
thoughts and opinions of Muktananda after two years of deep 
deliberation following my discovery of his ‘secret life’.
One has only to observe the way each of us who discovered the guru’s 
secret life were treated by our former comrades to understand the 
power for evil inherent in any relationship based on the infallibility 
of the leader and the unquestioned obedience of the subjects...Out of 
a love for truth and for those who teach it and appear to embody it, 
we unwittingly set ourselves up for exploitation and betrayal. Our 
mistake is to deify another being and attribute perfection to him. 
From that point on everything is admissible.


About Muktananda himself I have thought a great deal. There is no 
doubt in my mind that he was an extraordinarily enlightened, learned, 
and articulate man who possessed a singular power, a dynamic personal 
radiance and charisma...Surely such a power is divine; yet there is no 
way to justify the way in which he used this power.


...he staged a deliberate campaign of deceit to convince gentle souls 
that he had transcended the limitations of mankind, that through 
realizing the eternal Self, he had attained holy perfection...he 
cunningly stole from hundreds of trusting souls their hearts and 
wills, their self-trust, their very sanity, their very lives. No 
ordinary, good person could do this, no matter how he tried; his heart 
and conscience would not allow it.


Like all of us, Muktananda was only human. And, like all men who 
worship power, he was inevitably corrupted and destroyed by it. His 
power could not save him form the weakness of the flesh, nor from the 
wickedness and depravity that servitude to it brings. He ended as a 
feeble-minded sadistic tyrant, luring devout little girls to his bed 
every night with promises of grace and self-realization.


Muktananda’s claim of perfection (Siddha-hood) was based on the 
notion that a person who has become enlightened has thereby also 
become perfect and absolutely free of human weakness. This is 
nonsense; it is a myth perpetrated by dishonest men who wish to 
receive the reverence and adoration due God alone. There is no 
absolute assurance that enlightenment necessitates the moral virtue of 
a person. There is no guarantee against the weakness of anger, lust, 
and greed in the human soul. The enlightened are on an equal footing 
with the ignorant in the struggle against their own evil - the only 
difference being that the enlightened personknows the truth, and has 
no excuse for betraying it.


God is not mocked; there is no freedom, no liberation, from His law 
of love, nor from His inescapable justice. It is indeed often those 
very persons who have thought themselves most perfect, most free and 
ungoverned, who have fallen most grievously; and their piteous fall is 
an occasion for great sadness, and should serve as a clear reminder of 
caution to us all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Swami Muktananda

Advaitist Francis Lucille. student of Jean Klein, says that it doesn't matter 
how corrupt a teacher is. If the student is sincere, he or she will get benefit 
from the teacher. As for mechanics of consciousness, and in this context, I'd 
say what we unconsciously believe will affect what manifests in our life.



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:43 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  
Neither Muktananda nor MMY has anything to do with your spiritual practice or 
your progress on a spiritual path. It's all up to you, whether or not you have 
a spiritual practice or not. You make your own decisions in life - it's not a 
solution just to blame others for your own failures. This isn't news - you are 
living in the past. It might be more helpful for you to post something that 
would explain the mechanics of consciousness - both these guys are dead and 
gone.

On 12/8/2013 8:52 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:

  
Much of this letter could easily apply to the Big M.

excerpts from

Letter From a Former Swami

by Stan Trout

I’d like to add this letter, if possible, as an appendix
  to the article on Muktananda by William Rodarmor. It is a
  statement of my thoughts and opinions of Muktananda after
  two years of deep deliberation following my discovery of
  his ‘secret life’.
One has only to observe the way each of us who discovered
  the guru’s secret life were treated by our former comrades
  to understand the power for evil inherent in any
  relationship based on the infallibility of the leader and
  the unquestioned obedience of the subjects...Out of a love
  for truth and for those who teach it and appear to embody
  it, we unwittingly set ourselves up for exploitation and
  betrayal. Our mistake is to deify another being and
  attribute perfection to him. From that point on everything
  is admissible.

About Muktananda himself I have thought a great deal.
  There is no doubt in my mind that he was an
  extraordinarily enlightened, learned, and articulate man
  who possessed a singular power, a dynamic personal
  radiance and charisma...Surely such a power is divine; yet
  there is no way to justify the way in which he used this
  power. 

...he staged a deliberate campaign of deceit to convince
  gentle souls that he had transcended the limitations of
  mankind, that through realizing the eternal Self, he had
  attained holy perfection...he cunningly stole from
  hundreds of trusting souls their hearts and wills, their
  self-trust, their very sanity, their very lives. No
  ordinary, good person could do this, no matter how he
  tried; his heart and conscience would not allow it.

Like all of us, Muktananda was only human. And, like all
  men who worship power, he was inevitably corrupted and
  destroyed by it. His power could not save him form the
  weakness of the flesh, nor from the wickedness and
  depravity that servitude to it brings. He ended as a
  feeble-minded sadistic tyrant, luring devout little girls
  to his bed every night with promises of grace and
  self-realization.

Muktananda’s claim of perfection (Siddha-hood) was based
  on the notion that a person who has become enlightened has
  thereby also become perfect and absolutely free of human
  weakness. This is nonsense; it is a myth perpetrated by
  dishonest men who wish to receive the reverence and
  adoration due God alone. There is no absolute assurance
  that enlightenment necessitates the moral virtue of a
  person. There is no guarantee against the weakness of
  anger, lust, and greed in the human soul. The enlightened
  are on an equal footing with the ignorant in the struggle
  against their own evil - the only difference being that
  the enlightened personknows the truth, and has no excuse
  for betraying it.

God is not mocked; there is no freedom, no liberation,
  from His law of love, nor from His inescapable justice. It
  is indeed often those very persons who have thought
  themselves most perfect, most free and ungoverned, who
  have fallen most grievously; and their piteous fall is an
  occasion for great sadness, and should serve as a clear
  reminder of caution to us all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Er, Buck, Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese, not the Chinese.

Look, we know you like to hype threats to scare folks into the Domes, but this
one is so absurd it seriously damages any credibility you had.

Buck wrote:

But why the nuke subs and naval cruisers anyway?
Is there a reason they started all this taunt around the anniversary day of
infamy? Pearl Harbor?

authfriend@... wrote:

You do know the Chinese aren't going to bomb us, right?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/smithfield-shareholders-approve-record-chinese-tak/?page=all

Buck, not to mention all their exchange students, etc. at MUM and in the Domes!

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:08 AM, Buck wrote:

In Fairfield, Iowa we are proly okay or safe enough from what will be a West
coast radiation fall-out plume. It would be in the red Chinese interests to not
radiate their farm land in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

It's like their looking for a next big thing.

On 12/06/2013 10:51 AM,Buck wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:

I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a year on New
Age products:

http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-features/new_age_products/

And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year market in seminars
and self-improvement programs.

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/

There's a sucker reborn every minute. - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva Barnum

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Maybe YOUR Yahoo Mail hasn't been down at all. Go figure.

It's probably a problem with my Internet Explorer 11. So, I seem to be able
to get Yahoo Mail using the Google Chrome. At any rate, YAHOO SUCKS!

This graph displays status activity for the selected service over the past
24 hours. For example, the graph might show that there were intermittent
service issues 3 hours ago. Use these guidelines to interpret the status
history graph:

[image: Inline image 1]

http://downrightnow.com/about/faq#q11

Anyway, I just received this from a friend:

I AM SO DISGUSTED WITH THE NEW YAHOO, SOMETIMES I CAN NOT ADD YOU OR
OTHERS SO I JUST DON'T SEND ANYTHING. I WILL KEEP YOU ON MY LIST


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:



 *My Yahoo Mail hasn't been down at all.*



 *Richard wrote:*
  If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

No. No, it's not. Sorry. We have plenty of things to worry about, but China 
taking out the West Coast with nuclear bombs isn't one of them.
 
Buck wrote:
 
  This is ominous as hell.
 snip nonsense

[FairfieldLife] Creeeeeeeeeeepy

There’s a Reason They Call Them ‘Crazy Ants’
 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/magazine/crazy-ants.html 
http://http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/magazine/crazy-ants.html?hpwamp;rref=magazine

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

China would probably not instigate a nuclear attack on the U.S. - that 
would be suicidal on their part. The U.S. could hit them real hard from 
all sides and close off all their resources by air and sea in a matter 
of hours. Without fuel imports they would probably all starve in a 
matter of weeks. The real problem is the chance of accidental encounters 
between trigger-happy Reds and/or one of our allies.


'China's dispute with Japan risks an accidental conflict'
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/03/china-japan-dispute-diaoyu-senkaku-islands

 On 12/8/2013 9:11 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


*We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese 
generals, some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a 
couple of red narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war 
room of the old Palace playing with the controls of nuke subs and 
cruisers, and we got problems. This is for real. A fleet of nuke-armed 
naval subs and cruisers. *





*What can any of us individually do to avert this danger?*

*Meditate and act with discipline together.*

*That is what any of us can do to avert this danger;*

*Bolster our collective forces in defense,*

*including more meditation. *

*-Buck *


*But why the nuke subs and naval cruisers anyway?*

*Is there a reason they started all this taunt around the anniversary 
day of infamy?  Pearl Harbor? *




authfriend@... wrote:

*You do know the Chinese aren't going to bomb us, right?*




*The chinese central committee secured a really great big slab of Iowa 
hog with this purchase for themselves . Big money industrial 
agriculturalists proly just would say, the more Iowa hogs owned by 
China the safer we all are in Iowa. Is that what free trade is all 
about?  Making your enemy your partner in concentrated hog feeding 
confinements?  I sense the land grab to move more people out of the 
countryside accelerating all the faster and a lot more hog 
confinements in Iowa for China now as a new part of our national 
security strategy.  Would you rather have a missile silo or a hog 
confinement next to your town as part of a defense shield? *





*The chinese got a good foot hold already going in Iowa. As meditators 
we are proly safe in Fairfield from the destruction of LA and Seattle; 
the chinese reds would proly only use low yield bombs on the West 
coast to preserve their holdings in Iowa. Red china bought and owns 
Smithfield Hogs. 
*http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/smithfield-shareholders-approve-record-chinese-tak/?page=all 
**




*The communist chinese over-seers are not going to nuke their own real 
estate holdings in Iowa hog production. That would not make sense 
considering some of the best soil in the whole world is here in Iowa 
to feed all their chinese billions. *





Buck, not to mention all their exchange students, etc. at MUM and in 
the Domes!




On Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:08 AM, Buck wrote:
*In Fairfield, Iowa we are proly okay or safe enough from what will be 
a West coast radiation fall-out plume. It would be in the red Chinese 
interests to not radiate their farm land in Iowa. *




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

I would think 2.3 billion would be a bit of a large number for the US 
and then that would probably take rolling in things like yoga classes 
offered at fitness centers.  And if global, India would really skew 
the numbers. :-D


It's like their looking for a next big thing.

On 12/06/2013 10:51 AM,Buck wrote:

*Yes,  Bhairitu is entirely right, it clearly is not just some 
new-agers consuming some spiritual trinkets.  It is a much larger 
problem.  However, we do know from the example of the Meissner Effect 
[ME] that just a few of us can change things; even the course of 
history. *
*Yep, frivolous consumerism is seriously perilous in so many ways. 
**We evidently all just need more Self-discipline around both our 
incessant materialism and then actually taking the time for 
meditation.  Taking quiet time twice a day at the least to practice a 
transcending meditation. -Buck *



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... 
mailto:noozguru@... wrote:


I think that $230 billion a year is globally not the US. Otherwise 
there would new age shops on every corner.  Many in this area have 
closed up since the 1990s.  And also I think they are folding not 
necessarily new age in to their count such as environmental items.


On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:


 In the meanwhile, let's hold the chinese reds off by staying 
current on our payments of consumer debt to them. Prudently let us 
tighten the belt, spend a lot more time meditating and a lot less 
time and credit on frivolous consumer goods.


I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a 
year on New Age products:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Maybe. I can read my Yahoo Mail, what little there is, using the Google 
Chrome Browser, but not with Mozilla Firefox or Internet Explorer11. Go 
figure.


 On 12/8/2013 9:26 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, could it be yahoo and not my server?! I got a service call 
into my Internet provider, fiber optic Lisco, very fast. Anyway, keep 
up the good work (-:



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 8:30 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure. 
Thanks for the link to the punk band. LoL!


On 12/8/2013 6:52 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com 
mailto:emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 My reply post to this has been deleted.  The album cover was simply 
too traumatizing and gross even for me.  I had a nightmare and am up 
at 4:30.  My apologies to you all who get email.  Please forgive me. 
 It's Sunday - I will pray and do penance today.

[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Seven states of Consciousness

OK meister professor ... tell us the where MMY got the teachings about the 
seven states of consciousness.  

 

 You wanna lecture us? Here's your chance. 

 Cite the specific, traditional sources for MMY's schema. 
 However, no speculation! 

 

 MMY asserted that his teachings were the embodiment 
 of traditional Vedanta and traditional Yoga. So tell us his specific sources. 
 

 Or are you asserting that he made all up?

[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Seven states of Consciousness

Don't you realize that the Inquisition still exists? 
It is now called The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 

 Yep, it was always male-dominated, church-appointed accusers but the civil 
authorities enacted the torture and punishment. 

 

 Sorta like the current inquisitions into the possible heresies of various 
earth-hugging nun orders.  
 

 However, now they can only excommunicate them unless they repent their errors.

[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Seven states of Consciousness

Don't you realize that the Inquisition still exists? 
It is now called The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 

 Yep, it was always male-dominated, church-appointed accusers but the civil 
authorities enacted the torture and punishment. 

 

 Sorta like the current inquisitions into the possible heresies of various 
earth-hugging nun orders.  
 

 However, now they can only excommunicate them unless they repent their errors.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Nope, Richard, it's the battery of the connector gizmo for the fiber optic. My 
wonderful neighbor gave me the password to their wifi and here I am! Hopefully 
Lisco will fix or replace battery tomorrow. I had well over 100 posts this 
morning. You all keep up the good work!





On Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
Maybe. I can read my Yahoo Mail, what little there is, using the Google Chrome 
Browser, but not with Mozilla Firefox or Internet Explorer11. Go figure.

 On 12/8/2013 9:26 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
Richard, could it be yahoo and not my server?! I got a service call into my 
Internet provider, fiber optic Lisco, very fast. Anyway, keep up the good work 
(-:



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 8:30 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure. Thanks for 
the link to the punk band. LoL!

On 12/8/2013 6:52 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
 My reply post to this has been deleted.  The album cover was simply too 
traumatizing and gross even for me.  I had a nightmare and am up at 4:30.  My 
apologies to you all who get email.  Please forgive me.  It's Sunday - I will 
pray and do penance today.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Uh, yes, that's what I said. 
 
Richard wrote:

  Maybe YOUR Yahoo Mail hasn't been down at all. Go figure.
 

 

  
 

 It's probably a problem with my Internet Explorer 11. So, I seem to be able to 
get Yahoo Mail using the Google Chrome. At any rate, YAHOO SUCKS!
 

 This graph displays status activity for the selected service over the past 24 
hours. For example, the graph might show that there were intermittent service 
issues 3 hours ago. Use these guidelines to interpret the status history graph:
 

 

 

 http://downrightnow.com/about/faq#q11 http://downrightnow.com/about/faq#q11 
 

 Anyway, I just received this from a friend:
 

 I AM SO DISGUSTED WITH THE NEW YAHOO, SOMETIMES I CAN NOT ADD YOU OR OTHERS 
SO I JUST DON'T SEND ANYTHING. I WILL KEEP YOU ON MY LIST
 
 

 On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
   My Yahoo Mail hasn't been down at all.
 
Richard wrote:

  If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Time Travel Machine

turq, maybe it's your older, wiser self saying: If your older, wiser self had 
thought there was anything it just *had* to 
offer you advice on, doncha think it might have done it by now?




On Saturday, December 7, 2013 4:45 PM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 As your rules don't allow one to change the future, I wouldn't want to go 
 back and meet an earlier version of myself. Not being able to offer advice or 
 change the odds behind the scenes would be cruel. 
 
  If youth only knew: if age only could. - Henri Estienne (1470 - 1520)

I replay one of the silly graphics I posted earlier. 

If your older, wiser self had thought there was anything it just *had* to offer 
you advice on, doncha think it might have done it by now?

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

noozguru, I could be wrong about some of this, but isn't electricity out west 
generated from dams?! And aren't the dams part of the reason there's a water 
shortage?!





On Friday, December 6, 2013 11:07 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
My electric bill through the summer and up until November is usually around 
$45.  California homes are built for cooling not heating.  My November bill is 
$20 more.  I'm not looking forward to the bill now that the furnace has kicked 
in.  The new roof I had added in 2007 improved cooling quite a bit so AC seldom 
needs to be run but that December was very cold so at the first of the year I 
had more insulation put in.  The old shake roof was actually better for heating 
and not so good for cooling.

On 12/06/2013 07:50 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
Richard, my electric bill was $11 last month. In summer it can be as high as 
$90, depending on how much I run the window air conditioners. 

Are you all in a drought area? I've heard that much of the
  west gets its water from the Rocky mountains and that's
  why water is so expensive. Water wars around the corner!






On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:28 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  
In September our water bill was $90; so we cut back; then in October the bill 
was $40.







We tried to use less water by:


1. Only doing full loads of wash using cold water once a week. 
2. Filling the sink with water for dish washing, instead of leaving the water 
running.
3. Taking quick showers and low tub fills for bathing.
4. Stopped watering the front lawn and half of the back yard.


Then, the November water bill came in at $110. This is just outrageous!!!


Who are you going to call? So, I called the San Antonio Water System (SAWS) to 
complain, to no avail. The water company is a monopoly! One guy's bill was 
over $500 for one month, and he was out of town for ten days. Go figure. They 
found a leak at his place - in the concrete foundation pipe!


So, I've started to monitor the water meter. Do they actually read those 
meters, or is it just a guestimate? 


The rent is too damned high!







On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

The rent is too damn high!



Now we're going to have to pay higher taxes in order to get heath insurance. 
You can't keep your plan or your doctor and you can't sign up at the 
exchange. And now I'm finding out  there's a marriage penalty.It's just 
outrageous!


The rent is too damn high!










On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:26 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
Not only has it already been passed long since, it's survived a Supreme 
Court challenge. The Republicans--a minority of the most 
conservative--aren't trying to keep it from passing, they're trying to get 
it repealed, defunded. It's just insane. That's why the government is shut 
down and why the debt limit increase is in jeopardy, threatening default. 
This small group of House members is holding the country hostage.


Once Obamacare is fully in effect, unless things go badly wrong somehow, a 
lot of people will change their tune. Folks are bellyaching, generally 
speaking, because they're either misinformed (by the Republicans) or 
uninformed.


Somebody took a poll the other day asking people if they approved of 
Obamacare; then asking them if they approved of the Affordable Care Act. A 
sizeable percentage approved of the latter but not the former. In fact, 
Obamacare IS the Affordable Care Act. Just different ways of referring to 
the same exact thing.


The new government Web site where people can find out about and apply for 
Obamacare has been mobbed the past few days. That's the good news. The bad 
news is that it wasn't prepared for such a huge onslaught and has been 
malfunctioning rather seriously. You just want to tear your hair out.


Ann wrote: 

I gotta tell you I do not, for the life of me, understand why Americans are 
belly aching about a new health care set up in the US. Nothing could be any 
more expensive and out of reach for the average American than it is now. I 
think if the damn thing ever passes all this fear-mongering and whining will 
prove unjustified. Christ, I hear some people are even afraid the US will 
become a (gasp) socialistic society as a result. I've got news for you guys, 
you already are.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Seven states of Consciousness

emptybill, I think we all have a little Inquisition judge in us. Anyway, what 
are earth hugging nuns?





On Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:36 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Don't you realize that the Inquisition still exists? 
It is now called The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 

Yep, it was always male-dominated, church-appointed accusers but the civil 
authorities enacted the torture and punishment. 


Sorta like the current inquisitions into the possible heresies of various 
earth-hugging nun orders.  

However, now they can only excommunicate them unless they repent their errors.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Whatever

2013-12-08 Thread awoelflebater



 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 emptybill, what is the ESSSENCE of being a tantrika? IMO it's being at home 
with good and bad. I think turq has that. Of  course I could be wrong about 
that. And everything else! So what?!
 

 Oh dear, let me count the ways...
 
 
 On Saturday, December 7, 2013 6:02 PM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote:
 
   Since when is Turq an actual, real Tantrika?
Freddy was Mr. B.S. Guru ... so he doesn't count.

As far as represented, Turq is a TINO, Tantric in Name Only.
If a real Tantrika, I have some of the standard questions:

Who was or is his teacher/lineage?

 What teachings did he receive which he still practices?
 What do you know that makes you think he is a real Tantrika?

Re: [FairfieldLife] The perfect Christmas gift for Bhairitu

I already have their Gold Card so I often get a free drink or food.  
Except the card is on the app on my phone.  They sneak in the deals 
sometimes so I have to check before I pay to see if I have a reward 
coming.  You have to tell them you want to use it as they start to ring 
you up and then you give them the code number.  So they get to track my 
crappy consumer spending habits. :-D


On 12/08/2013 02:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Just sayin'. :-)

http://foodbeast.com/2013/12/05/starbucks-unveils-450-rose-metal-gift-cards/ 



But isn't this an interesting sign of the times. People will be 
waiting online to hit the Send button and wait to see if they're among 
the lucky 1,000 to get one of these cards -- either as a gift, or for 
themselves. So that they can flash a rose-pink metal cards at 
Starbucks, and watch people go Woo. :-)


Le monde est fou, fou, fou...

[FairfieldLife] RE: Congress Fears Out of Control Obama Could Suspend Election Laws

I don't find what you are talking about, as being confined to here. It is more 
apparent in the US, because, one, we have very few traditions to slow us down, 
and two, the development of our technology has outpaced the development of our 
consciousness. 

I recall Maharishi referring to the US as the most creative country in the 
world, and I agree that it is. However, he never said we were the most 
intelligent country on the planet, and I would agree there, too.:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Seven states of Consciousness

I think we all have a little Inquisition judge in us...

What is his shoe size?

I am perfectly OK with making spur of the moment judgments about everything 
from how far away the door is, to my opinions on someone's hat, or politics, or 
religion, etc. 

But to imply that we are all somehow desiring any dissent, in any domain, 
conform to us, is absurd, cynical, and egotistical, in MY opinion.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Swami Muktananda

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Jackson

are you willing to apply this same bullshit mentality to the way our 
politicians work the country?

On Sun, 12/8/13, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Swami Muktananda
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, December 8, 2013, 3:43 PM

 Neither
 Muktananda nor MMY has anything
   to do with your spiritual practice or your progress on
 a spiritual
   path. It's all up to you, whether or not you have
 a spiritual
   practice or not. You make your own decisions in life -
 it's not a
   solution just to blame others for your own failures.
 This isn't
   news - you are living in the past. It might be more
 helpful for
   you to post something that would explain the mechanics
 of
   consciousness - both these guys are dead and gone.

   On 12/8/2013 8:52 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:

 Much of this letter could easily apply to the
 Big M.

   excerpts from

   Letter From a Former Swami

   by Stan Trout

   I’d like to add this letter, if possible, as
 an appendix
   to the article on Muktananda by William
 Rodarmor. It is a
   statement of my thoughts and opinions of
 Muktananda after
   two years of deep deliberation following my
 discovery of
   his ‘secret life’.

   One has only to observe the way each of us who
 discovered
   the guru’s secret life were treated by our
 former comrades
   to understand the power for evil inherent in
 any
   relationship based on the infallibility of the
 leader and
   the unquestioned obedience of the
 subjects...Out of a love
   for truth and for those who teach it and
 appear to embody
   it, we unwittingly set ourselves up for
 exploitation and
   betrayal. Our mistake is to deify another
 being and
   attribute perfection to him. From that point
 on everything
   is admissible.

   About Muktananda himself I have thought a
 great deal.
   There is no doubt in my mind that he was an
   extraordinarily enlightened, learned, and
 articulate man
   who possessed a singular power, a dynamic
 personal
   radiance and charisma...Surely such a power is
 divine; yet
   there is no way to justify the way in which he
 used this
   power. 

   ...he staged a deliberate campaign of deceit
 to convince
   gentle souls that he had transcended the
 limitations of
   mankind, that through realizing the eternal
 Self, he had
   attained holy perfection...he
 cunningly stole from
   hundreds of trusting souls their hearts and
 wills, their
   self-trust, their very sanity, their very
 lives. No
   ordinary, good person could do this, no matter
 how he
   tried; his heart and conscience would not
 allow it.

   Like all of us, Muktananda was only human.
 And, like all
   men who worship power, he was inevitably
 corrupted and
   destroyed by it. His power could not save him
 form the
   weakness of the flesh, nor from the wickedness
 and
   depravity that servitude to it brings. He
 ended as a
   feeble-minded sadistic tyrant, luring devout
 little girls
   to his bed every night with promises of grace
 and
   self-realization.

   Muktananda’s claim of perfection
 (Siddha-hood) was based
   on the notion that a person who has become
 enlightened has
   thereby also become perfect and
 absolutely free of human
   weakness. This is nonsense; it is a myth
 perpetrated by
   dishonest men who wish to receive the
 reverence and
   adoration due God alone. There is no absolute
 assurance
   that enlightenment necessitates the moral
 virtue of a
   person. There is no guarantee against the
 weakness of
   anger, lust, and greed in the human soul. The
 enlightened
   are on an equal footing with the ignorant in
 the struggle
   against their own evil - the only difference
 being that
   the enlightened personknows the truth, and has
 no excuse
   for betraying it.

   God is not mocked; there is no
 freedom, no liberation,
   from His law of love, nor from His inescapable
 justice. It

Re: [FairfieldLife] Secessionists Grow in Rural States

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Jackson

It didn't work out so well when South Carolina did it in 1861.

On Sun, 12/8/13, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Secessionists Grow in Rural States
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, December 8, 2013, 3:36 PM

   This could happen as more people are moving out of
 rural areas of the states to bigger cities.  Will the
 new state of Jefferson be created in northern California?

 http://news.yahoo.com/rural-america-secessionist-sentiment-stirs-050913017.html

[FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

And no possible chance of over-arching conflict with the North Koreans.
Everyone knows they are really just bluffing so they can get more Gucci belts 
for their consorts.

[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Seven states of Consciousness

Nuns who set up earthen altars to the great mother ... which happened here 
(back in the late '70) at a retreat center. That was before the the U.S 
Conference of Catholic Bishops was pacified by changing the center name from 
Sanskrit to English and instituting a strictly Catholic prayer and retreat 
program. Retreat for Catholics means lots of talking.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Congress Fears Out of Control Obama Could Suspend Election Laws

And lots of snow if you select the Sierra foothills.  Friends who live 
near Grass Valley sent me pictures of all the snow they got yesterday 
morning.  I thought about moving there myself in 2000 and went to Grass 
Valley on business with these friends along.  We stopped at a real 
estate office to see what was available.  That summer I also visited the 
area with a friend and determined that Grass Valley had quite a tourist 
trade and I really wasn't sure that I wanted to live in such a place.  
But my friends did buy up there a year or two later.


One plus for geeks, there's a Fry's in Roseville. ;-)

On 12/08/2013 05:20 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


After a year of messy contemplation, I just purchased a used 32' RV, 
using my sense of smell - Self-contained (you can save about $80,000 
by buying used, with lo miles). Phase two is purchasing ~5 to 10 acres 
of land in the Sierra foothills, or south of here. Phase three is to 
buy, and construct a big quonset hut studio (1000 sq ft.) - they come 
in kits. I like the convenience of urban areas, and am keeping the 
house I have, but I really crave a place of solitude, also, where I 
can immerse myself in the religion of art, without the dogma - 
painting the stars at 3 AM, etc.:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Secessionists Grow in Rural States

California has only two senators to represent a state with an economy 
that is among the top 10 in the world.  We also don't get back as much 
in federal funds as some of the red states do.  So there is a good 
argument for splitting it up.  Or wait until the US collapses.  Then 
we'll just become a separate country.


I wouldn't be moving to Redding any time soon though. :-D

On 12/08/2013 07:36 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


This could happen as more people are moving out of rural areas of the 
states to bigger cities.  Will the new state of Jefferson be created 
in northern California?



http://news.yahoo.com/rural-america-secessionist-sentiment-stirs-050913017.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Seven states of Consciousness

Well emptybill, I for one salute the nuns who built altars to the Great Mother. 
She seems more human to me than Mary does!





On Sunday, December 8, 2013 12:12 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Nuns who set up earthen altars to the great mother ... which happened here 
(back in the late '70) at a retreat center. That was before the the U.S 
Conference of Catholic Bishops was pacified by changing the center name from 
Sanskrit to English and instituting a strictly Catholic prayer and retreat 
program. Retreat for Catholics means lots of talking.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

emptybill, are you saying that it's really all about women?!





On Sunday, December 8, 2013 12:04 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
And no possible chance of over-arching conflict with the North Koreans.
Everyone knows they are really just bluffing so they can get more Gucci belts 
for their consorts.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Congress Fears Out of Control Obama Could Suspend Election Laws

A single EMP detonation along the upper West coast will turn Chanukastan into a 
dark hole after the fourth day. The hoards will roam looking for food because 
of the barren shelves and inoperable gas stations. 

 

 Think North Korean balloon launch from a submarine in prelude to an invasion 
of the South. 
 

 Of course this can never happen. We're too sophisticated. Heh Heh.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Congress Fears Out of Control Obama Could Suspend Election Laws

Thank you for the info. Good intuition - I had been looking in that area, only 
a little further down the hill. I am trying to stay around 1,000 feet, to avoid 
a lot of snow. I am not to the point of visiting sites, except through G Earth, 
since I want to get used to what I have, so far, and choose carefully. 
 

 There was a great property right next to Lake Berryessa, but after 
investigating, they have major water sourcing and runoff problems, leading to 
crazy water bills ~$800/mo. I like the Aromas area, too, but friends there say 
there is more and more fracking going on, down there, and well water 
contamination would not be an option.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

It was dark and disturbing, although the tune wasn't bad.  I was channeling 
S3raphita's seeming interest with the deviant psyche (sorry S3raphita). 
However, I'm too sensitive; I don't see horror movies either.  It all affects 
me for the worse. I'm *still* feeling the affects of my own post, so am going 
to stay quiet until it resolves. Have a joyous Christmas.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Secessionists Grow in Rural States

2013-12-08 Thread jr_esq

MJ,
 

 Just remember that Lee's surrender to Grant may be invalid.  Technically, the 
south still has a Confederacy.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp#39;s Last Tape

2013-12-08 Thread bobpriced



 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 One-act play by Samuel Beckett, performed by Harold Pinter 

 In five parts:
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKteoIGbF0Q 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGrfzhOaMkk 
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4ibYIWSss 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4ibYIWSss
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WRyORtU6A 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WRyORtU6A
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQaQM2004s 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQaQM2004s
 

 Although I don't believe a Beckett play can ever be reduced to a single 
interpretation, Spoiler Alert.
 

 Judy,
 

 Thank you for posting this, I found it compelling to watch. 
 

 It's not easy to admit that we're all Krapp (smile), and, in the end, alone.
 

 I liked the way the monologue, and silence, framed and accentuated what was 
not said. I thought Pinter's characterization---much of the time using nothing 
more than facial expressions---was transporting. 
 

 Everything in the room seemed burnt, possibly from a blaze caused by the 
narcissism of Krapp's younger years (alcohol adding fuel to the fire of his 
self absorption); even his wheelchair seemed scorched, I could almost smell the 
smoke hanging stale in the air.
 

 It's been said that Beckett's choice of structure* was influenced by 
Manichaean (Gnostic) doctrine, which teaches, among other things, that the 
world has been ruled by evil since God lost control of his creation. I think 
this could explain the choreography. 
 

 At about 42:40 of this clip there is a short piece on the Yazidis, a sect in 
Kurdistan who were influenced by the Gnostics; I was reminded of it when I 
read* about the possible influence of the Manichaeans on the structure of the 
play, the burns on the walls of the temple are reminiscent of Krapps burnt wall 
paper (i loved the wallpaper pattern underneath the smoke damage, I could see 
the flames of his life licking up the wall).
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wu0CTPeQjA 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wu0CTPeQjA  
 

 As dark as the play is, I found hope in the fact that Krapp seems to have no 
time for his intellectual insights as a younger man, but is drawn to his past 
failures in love; it seems to be dawning on him that in these previous 
experiences of love he may find some purpose to his existence. 
 

 We lay there without moving, but under us all moved and moved us gently up 
and down and side to side.
 

 I think spool is a wonderful metaphor for life and I enjoyed the way Pinter 
played with the word. I thought the choice of the word last*, which could 
mean previous or final, was brilliant.
 

 *  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krapps_Last_Tape  
 

 Here's a link to a small European film (Nothing Personal) I enjoyed watching 
recently. For me, it's about reconciling the desire to be alone with 
loneliness, and love, and the oh so human need to be with someone else.
 

 http://tinyurl.com/m5l24wu http://tinyurl.com/m5l24wu   

 

 Thanks again Judy. I try to read all your posts, but unfortunately my other 
commitments keep me from posting as often as I'd like to. Is it possible The 
Holy Spirit became a gnostic when she left the world after the bombing of Monte 
Cassino; another question to ask Robin if he ever returns. 
 

 ***I make this burnt offering to the god Neo, ruler of FFL and provider of 
crops of words without the fertility of his name; oh great Neo, I bow down to 
you---the antonym of Nemo---and beseech you to deliver this post to FFL as 
close as possible to my intentions (the fruit, flowers, hanky and donation are 
in the mail).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

The country needs to be about 90% socialist and 10% capitalist (actually 
free enterprise).  The latter would take care of the folks who want to 
work for themselves and the former the majority who don't want to worry 
about running a company.  You would need to limit the size of companies 
though.  Allowing for mega corporations has proven to be a real problem.


Government needs to be transparent and transcendental or not in your 
face.  A lot of laws on US books (including copyright) need to be 
thrown out and about the only way that will ever happen is for the US to 
collapse as the former Soviet Union did.  The problem is there will be a 
struggle as those who are so mentally imbalanced that they feel the need 
to be king  of the hill will try to grab up everything they can.


On 12/08/2013 02:22 AM, Jason wrote:



Hey Bhairitu, the first thing that needs to be done is to
de-link the 'political-system' from the economic-system.

Of course, you can't ban private donations. That would go
against the very spirit of democracy and freedom.

However, you can create a situation in which there is no
incentive for political parties to seek private donations.
Besides, you can add a law that bars corporations from
donating more that 10% percent of their profits to political
parties.

Capitalism works very well for the economic system.

Capitalism works very badly for the political system.

Capitalism works very badly for the cultural systems.

Both, political system and cultural systems need to be based
on Socialism.  Consider all the three systems as three
corners of a triangle.


---  Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 The point is Mike that the Santa Clara vs Southern Pacific Railroad 
case

 was the end of the more restrictive rules on corporations.  It was the
 first step toward corporate personhood.  What it seemed to bring were
 many states limitations on the life span of a corporation which back
 then was around 40 years.  I'm going to provide some good articles here
 analyzing it's effects for you and others who are interested.

 History of regulations on corporations:
 
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-accountability-history-corporations-us/


 Long excerpt from Thom Hartmann's book:
 http://www.thomhartmann.com/unequal-protection/excerpt-theft

 Surely you don't think that mega-corporations are good for the 
world, do

 you?  I've heard arguments that big corporations make new technologies
 possible.  But that is not true.  Big corporations buy up little
 companies who create new technologies. IBM, Microsoft, Apple and Google
 have done that for years. Android was developed by a small company that
 Google bought.

 Surely you don't think that wealth inequality is a good thing, do you?
 Shouldn't there be a cap on salaries?  It seems to me the planet is
 being raided by a bunch of mobsters masquerading as corporations.  This
 was more blatant in the former Soviet Union after it fell and oligarchs
 popped up raiding what they could.

 Wouldn't you like your dollar to go a lot farther than it does now?
 This is NOT a partisan issue.


 On 12/06/2013 10:30 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
  Share I was asking Bharitu what his point was,regarding that court
  case he was sighting.
 
 
  On Friday, December 6, 2013 7:18 AM, Share Long
  sharelong60@... wrote:
 
  Mike, my point was and is: it's all pretty funny so I hope you can
  just enjoy the humor of it all (-:
 
 
  On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:52 AM, Mike Dixon
  mdixon.6569@... wrote:
 
  So , what was your point?
 
 
  On Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:05 AM, Share Long
  sharelong60@... wrote:
  I think we got a barbell situation right here on FFL!
 
 
  On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:02 PM, Jason jedi_spock@...
  wrote:
 
  You don't understand. It's called the barbell strategy. You
  create a system which has some positives and drawbacks. You
  again create another reverse mirror image system. The two
  systems balance each other out.
 
  A 'socialistic political system' will balance out a
  'capitalistic economic system'.
 
  Political subsidies for political parties will ease the
  pressure off the parties and prevent them from playing to
  the gallery. They will stop worrying about funds and start
  focussing on real policies for growth.
 
  It also prevents crony capitalism and promotes real
  pro-market capitalism.
 
 
  --- s3raphita@ wrote:
  
   Re At least, 3% of the total budget should be allocated to
  political parties as subsidies.:
  
  
WTF! I don't want one cent of my money to go to a political party.
  Let them pay for their own propaganda.
   Extremist parties wouldn't arise if mainstream parties actually
  pursued policies that were in the interests of the voters. How hard
  can it be?
  
  
 --- s3raphita@ wrote:

 Re Capitalist governments shouldn't be bailing anybody out 
. . . If

 the government takes the risk out of the equation by offering a
  bailout,
 any fool could run a business and risk everyone's

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

I have a feeling the young North Korean dictator may be trying to figure 
out how to transition the country from a totalitarian state to a 
democracy without spinning out of control.  Schooled abroad he might 
like to see his country join the world community rather than be the 
spoiled brat in the corner.  Running a totalitarian state has to be a 
bitch too.


I suspect you don't have HBO but VICE did a really good report on their 
visit to North Korea.


On 12/08/2013 10:04 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


And no possible chance of over-arching conflict with the North Koreans.
Everyone knows they are really just bluffing so they can get more 
Gucci belts for their consorts.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Congress Fears Out of Control Obama Could Suspend Election Laws

Just call up jeezus on yur cell phone and say hey jeezus ... I'm making you a 
little manger in my heart. Jus' say ... 'I' am throwing down 'my' 'I' an' 
puttin' 'You on 'my' throne. Jeezus yur my CEO, etc.

[FairfieldLife] MMY's Karma

The sages of ancient India apparently all agreed on certain fundamental 
assumptions. It might be fruitful to understand just what it was that 
they they were all agreeing on, rather than to explore their 
differences. There is a standard philosophy used by the ancient Indian 
sages to describe the mechanics of consciousness and the evolutes of 
matter. MMY has called our attention to the fact that nature, governed 
by the three gunas, is entirely separate from the Transcendental field - 
the field of Being, termed Purusha in the Gita:

But he who knows the truth about the divisions of the gunas and their 
actions, O mighty armed, knowing that it is the gunas which act upon the 
gunas, remains unattached.

The implications of these passages indicate that the nature of the mind 
is appreciated as it is, separate from activity. The goal of TM does 
not consist in achieving anything or reaching anything or place, but 
simply in recognizing what already is the case: that the I is 
essentially uninvolved with activity. Here, the ONLY criterion is 
internal: the Self  as independent of action.

According to MMY, The authorship of action does not in reality belong 
to the I. It is a mistake to understand that I do this, I 
experience this and I know this. All action is performed by the three 
gunas born of Nature.

Everything that one has ever thought, spoken, done or caused is karma; 
as is also that which we think, speak or do this very moment. That is to 
say, a particular action now is not binding to some particular, 
pre-determined future experience or reaction; it is not a simple, 
one-to-one correspondence of reward or punishment. These tendencies are 
brought to the fore by a still present doer, with attachment still 
remaining to sense objects. Such a person would still find relative 
satisfaction from sense-objects.

The first task of the aspirant is to reduce the karmic influx, which can 
be achieved by experiencing finer states of thought, experiencing the 
finest state of thought, producing a gradual reduction in metabolism and 
mental participation; and the second task, when the aspirant has closed 
his eyes, is to burn out the karmic matter already present, through the 
use of a non-ideational device, such as a sound, a mental object, or a 
phrase, which naturally produces a mystic warmth.

The Sanskrit term for this discipline is tapas, a word meaning 
mystical heat. The yogi, through his own interior heat, burns out 
karmic matter and thus lightens his monad, to the point that, rising up, 
he experiences a bubbling bliss born of peace in isolation, that is, 
kaivalyam, isolation. A yogi then ascends so to speak, to the 
Transcendent field, where the individual life-monad, perfectly clear, 
light as cotton fiber, will shine forever in its own translucent, 
crystalline, pure Being.

Karma yoga is based on karma, obviously, but also on the theory of 
reincarnation. According to Karma Yoga, humans are born with and develop 
sanskaras, which can be positive or negative,
from previous lives. Sanskaras (volitions) are what drive people to 
perform actions in their present life. The process of accruing karma 
will continue as samsara in a never-ending cycle of rebirth.

According to the enlightenment tradition, this endless round of becoming 
can be abolished through Yoga, that is, in addition to normal aging, an 
adept of Yoga can burn up his karma through the practice of tapas, until 
the sum total of sankaras is zero. When that happens, the yogin is 
liberated from samsara.

According to Mircea Eliade, Now, cosmogony and anthropogeny through 
sweating are mythical motifs also found elsewhere, for example, in North 
America. They are very probably connected with a shamanistic ideology; 
we know that the North American shamans make use of sweating cabinets to 
stimulate violent perspiration.

Moreover, the custom is only one aspect of a larger ideological complex 
that is earlier than shamanism, strictly speaking; we refer to magical 
heat and the mastery of fire. Magically increasing the heat of the 
body, and mastering fire to the point of not feeling the heat of 
burning coals, are two marvels universally attested among medicine men, 
shamans, and fakirs.

Now, as we shall see later, one of the most typical yogico-tantric 
techniques consists precisely in producing inner heat (mystical heat). 
The continuity between the oldest known magical technique and tantric 
Yoga is, in this particular, undeniable.

There is Purusha, which stands alone, eternal and unchanging, and there 
is prakriti, governed by three gunas, and thirty-two constituents, 
comprising the whole in one easily comprehended matrix of change. The 
two are totally separate - one being an object of knowledge and the 
other being the witnessing subject, the Transcendental Person.

In commenting on Bhagavad Gita, MMY has brought our attention to the 
existence of the gunas, whose concern is action, which, in every case, 
is the result of

Re: [FairfieldLife] The perfect Christmas gift for Bhairitu

Just got back from chilly downtown where I skipped my walk on the 
waterfront.  Checking my Starbucks app I noticed I had a free drink 
coming.  Yesterday it was a breakfast sandwich BOGO.  Starbucks also is 
selling their own kups machine called the Verismo and for a decent price.


On 12/08/2013 09:37 AM, Bhairitu wrote:


I already have their Gold Card so I often get a free drink or food.  
Except the card is on the app on my phone.  They sneak in the deals 
sometimes so I have to check before I pay to see if I have a reward 
coming.  You have to tell them you want to use it as they start to 
ring you up and then you give them the code number.  So they get to 
track my crappy consumer spending habits. :-D


On 12/08/2013 02:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Just sayin'. :-)

http://foodbeast.com/2013/12/05/starbucks-unveils-450-rose-metal-gift-cards/ 



But isn't this an interesting sign of the times. People will be 
waiting online to hit the Send button and wait to see if they're 
among the lucky 1,000 to get one of these cards -- either as a gift, 
or for themselves. So that they can flash a rose-pink metal cards at 
Starbucks, and watch people go Woo. :-)


Le monde est fou, fou, fou...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Secessionists Grow in Rural States

2013-12-08 Thread jr_esq

Bhairitu,
 

 In January, 1993, my car died out near Redding, CA on my way back to the 
Northwest.  Then, the snow fell at the Siskiyou Mountain pass.  So, I gave up 
my car at the gas station and flew back on an airplane to Seattle.  Other than 
that, Redding is supposedly considered one of the hubs, along with Chico, CA, 
in Northern, CA.
 

 If the state of Jefferson is ever created, I would think a few counties in 
southern Oregon would join in as well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Whatever

Indeed, in the Bay Area we have folks who are really nothing more than 
would-be sex therapists claiming to be tantrics.  I have a feeling that  
Turq would probably like to be of that order. :-D



On 12/07/2013 04:02 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


Since when is Turq an actual, real Tantrika?
Freddy was Mr. B.S. Guru ... so he doesn't count.

As far as represented, Turq is a TINO, Tantric in Name Only.
If a real Tantrika, I have some of the standard questions:

Who was or is his teacher/lineage?

What teachings did he receive which he still practices?

What do you know that makes you think he is a real Tantrika?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

I saw a fascinating interview on France 24, recently -- the equivalent of BBC 
world service. It was with President Goodluck Jonathan, of Nigeria. 
 

 He was explaining how Nelson Mandela changed African politics, by having a 
broader vision for South Africa, and the ability to carry it out, than the 
traditional nepotism that had been the standard, and still is, in much of 
Africa. 
 

 He also spoke with an intelligence, and clear understanding of his country's 
challenges, and global position, without all of the rhetoric, sloganeering, and 
vague promises, aka bullshit, that underpins politics in the US. An impressive 
leader - makes us look like a bunch of ADD kids - lol.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Buck, off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please 
define communism.


On 12/08/2013 12:57 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:



*We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese 
generals, some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a 
couple of red narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war 
room of the old Palace playing with the controls of nuke subs and 
cruisers, and we got problems. This is for real. A fleet of nuke-armed 
naval subs and cruisers. *

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Seven states of Consciousness

On 12/8/2013 10:14 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Cite the specific, traditional sources for MMY's schema.

It has already been established that MMY's first four states of 
consciousness are drawn directly from Mandukya Upanishad, which was 
commented on by Gaudapadacharya, the first exponent of Advaita Vedanta 
in India, and by the Adi Shankaracharya in the 8th century. What has not 
been determined is whether Gauda composed the Kariak AND the Upanishad. 
Go figure.

Obviously there must have been an active dialog between proponents of 
Advaita and Vajrayana Buddhism because the nomenclature in Mandukya is 
very similar to the work of Asanga Maitreyanatha in his Mahayana Sutra 
Lankara.

According to Sharma, these are twelve verses expounding the mystic 
syllable Aum, the three psychological states of waking, dreaming and 
sleeping, and the transcendent fourth state of illumination. This one 
Upanishad consisting ot twelve verses, is sufficient to insure 
realization of the transcendent by reason alone, even without the 
benefit of a yoga praxis. The Adi Shankara agrees with this.

Excerpt from mANDUkya kArikA IV by gauDapAda:

Duality is only an appearance; non-duality is
the real truth. The object exists as an object
for the knowing subject; but it does not exist
outside of consciousness because the distinction
of subject and object is within consciousness.

According to the translation my Professor, Dr. Patrick Olivelle, 
Chairman, Department of Asian Studies, and Director, The Center for 
Asian Studies, at the University of Texas at Austin:

Anyone who knows this is sure to construct this whole world and to 
become also its destruction.

Swami Bhaktivedanta Saraswati, a Vedantin, enumerates the five classical 
states of consciousness which are similar to MMY:

1. Wakefulness (jagrat)
2. Dream state (svapna)
3. Deep sleep (sushupti)
4. Superconscious state (turiya)
5. Transcendent state (turiyatita)

The Seven States is a well defined explanation of the different states 
of consciousness humans must develop in order to reach enlightenment. 
This Seven States typology is easy for TMers to understand - I don't 
know why you want to confuse anyone by interjecting human sacrifice into 
the dialog. Are you just attempting to distract and and make it seem 
complicated? Go figure.

So, for the benefit of some TMers and for the non-TMers on the forum, 
these are the Seven States of Consciousness enumerated by MMY. It's not 
complicated.

1. Waking State Consciousness
2. Dream State Consciousness
3. Dream State Consciousness
4. Transcendental Consciousness
5. Cosmic Consciousness
6. God Consciousness
7. Unity Consciousness

Work cited:

Mandukya Upanishad, Sanskrit:
http://fiindolo.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/1_sanskr/1_veda/4_upa/agsas_1u.htm

Mandukya Upanishad (with Gaudapada Karikas), Charles Johnston translation:
http://www.bharatadesam.com/spiritual/upanishads/mandukya_upanishad.php

'A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy'
by Chandrahar Sharma, Shastri, M.A., D.Phil., D.Litt., LL.B.,
Dept. of Phil., Benares Hindu U.
Rider, 1960
p. 239; 245-246

'The Upanishads'
Translated by Patrick Olivelle, Ph.D.
Oxford World's Classics
pp. 288-289

Also see:

'OM Mantra and 7 Levels of Consciousness'
by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati
http://www.swamij.com/om.htm#sevenstates

[FairfieldLife] Re: MyFace

My face updated:
:

[image: Inline image 2]

Vvisit MyFace:

http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/ http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/index.htm






On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 MyFace, updated:

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Visit my face:

 http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/ http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/index.htm


 On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 MyFace, updated.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Visit MyFace:
 http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/index.htm


 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 You've heard of 'My Space'. And, you've heard of 'Facebook'. My new
 social networking site will be called 'My Face'.

 Just post pictures of your face, nothing else, and then post comments
 about each others face.  Everyone loves to make comments about other
 people's face.  Don't know HTML? Send me a photo of your face along with
 your real name and I'll put up it  up on the web for you. It will be fun
 and I'll be a millionaire in a year or two. Don't be shy just because
 you've got no hair or teeth left. LoL!

 [image: Inline image 1]

 http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/

[FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

Yesterday, we went to this place - San Antonio Public Library:

[image: Inline image 1]


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Today, I went to this place to see Manny, Moe, and Jack about an oil
 change for one of my cars.

 [image: Inline image 1]


 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Last night we went to this place for a beer:

 [image: Inline image 1]




 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I had
 to go here::

 [image: Inline image 1]

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

We went to a friend's wedding yesterday and I wore a suit from Botany,
black; a Van Heusen dress shirt, white; a Penny's tie, red and blue
stripes; and Nunn Bush shoes, black. Val wore a velvet pants suit from
SAKS, black; and boots from Sketchers, black.


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Richard, we're twins as I'm wearing brown cords too! But with a pink hoody
 because it's fleece and my warmest. You probably shouldn't wear pink to the
 Roadhouse imho! I'm also wearing 2 pairs of socks, wool on the outside. My
 toes are still cold. Poor circulation!

 When I went to the Dome I wore my long, blue, hooded down coat which makes
 me look like a blue elongated marshmallow. But who cares?! It was 12
 degrees when I left the Dome and 11 when I got home! Vanity flies out the
 window!




   On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:48 AM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

  Today I am wearing a Hanes sweat suit, shirt and pants, grey; with Nike
 running shoes, white. If I go out to the Roadhouse, I may wear some brown
 corduroy pants, a red and black checkered flannel shirt, and a black
 leather jacket and a wooly cap, pulled down over my ears.


 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:


  People in Annapolis dress nautically, even in the winter, dockers,
 windbreakers, etc. It's a watery place featuring the Chesapeake Bay, the
 Severn and South Rivers, Weems Creek. It's a haven for boating people, home
 of US Naval Academy. I'm not a boating person. If I'm near the water, I
 want to be in it not on it!  But on this blustery, rainy day I found myself
 reveling in the elements, sailing on land, leaving my umbrella in the car.
 The power of the group consciousness of the town.




   On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:53 PM, Richard J. Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

   Today at the mall, I saw a teenager gal wearing a pair of Converse
 All-Star lace-up knee-high boots, lime green tennis shoes. Do those
 things have a zipper in back? Otherwise, you'd have to add at least fifteen
 minutes onto your dressing time just to get your feet ready to go out. Go
 figure.


 On 11/26/2013 11:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

 Denims are durable - you can wash them hundreds of times and they just get
 more and more comfy. But, you're right about wearing them in the heat and
 the cold. There's nothing like soft cords for comfort and warmth! I used to
 have a nice brown cord sports coat with leather on the elbows, but I wore
 it out and so I left it in a Goodwill donation box back in 1995.

 Another thing that is real popular around here are Wrangler denim shirts
 with snaps instead of buttons, available at Shepler's Western Store.

 Maybe I should get a new hat to wear - one of the most popular places to
 get hats of all kinds is at 'Paris Hatters' in downtown San Antonio -
 Stetson, Panama, and Resitol, (family owned and operated since 1917).

 http://www.yelp.com/biz/paris-hatters-san-antonio

 I'm thinking about getting a hat like Jack Hannah wears at the Columbus
 Zoo and on TV - an Indy Jones type hat and some khaki cargo pants and
 shirts (with the shoulder flaps for carrying a camera) at Banana Republic.


  On 11/26/2013 11:21 AM, Share Long wrote:


 My Mom bought me a real stretchy pair of jeans to wear during my sojourn
 in the big bad city of Annapolis (-:
 I tend to cords in Fairfield. IMH experience jeans are NOT at all warm in
 winter. And in the summer they're too hot! How the heck are they so
 popular?! Asking the important questions LOL.



   On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:44 AM, Richard J. Williams
 pundits...@gmail.com pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

   One of the most talked about subjects in conversation is fashion, or
 lack of it. It's taken some adjustment for me to dress down every day,
 not that I used to really dress up, much anyway. But, compared to some
 others, I'm usually over-dressed, even at Starbucks.

 One of the geeks I worked with used to have a pocket protector in his
 shirt pocket filled with assorted cheap ball-point pens he bought at the
 Dollar Store or Walmart. But, I like to have just one pen in my pocket -
 maybe a Cross felt-tip or a fake Mont Blanc fountain pen.

 One time the Director of my department threw a Christmas party at her
 mansion up in the hills. Naturally she was dressed up in a stunning outfit,
 and most of the others looked real fine too. But one geek guy showed up
 dressed in cut-offs and a tank-top with rubber thongs on his feet. Go
 figure.

 These days, I'm fond of wearing Levi's and T-shirts or a sweat shirt and
 Nike running shoes. Some of the denims I bought were kinda baggy looking,
 so I got me a pair of Levi's skinny jeans at Cavender's Boot City. They
 look pretty good, but I can hardly get my hands in the pockets to fetch my
 cell phone! So, I went to the Gap and bought some pocket T-shirts. Sweet!

 But, I passed on buying the new faded Wrangler jeans with the ragged

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists


Let me re-phrase what I said: YAHOO MAIL SUCKS!

On 12/8/2013 10:59 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


Uh, yes, that's what I said.


Richard wrote:

 Maybe YOUR Yahoo Mail hasn't been down at all. Go figure.

It's probably a problem with my Internet Explorer 11. So, I seem to be 
able to get Yahoo Mail using the Google Chrome. At any rate, YAHOO SUCKS!


This graph displays status activity for the selected service over the 
past 24 hours. For example, the graph might show that there were 
intermittent service issues 3 hours ago. Use these guidelines to 
interpret the status history graph:


Inline image 1

http://downrightnow.com/about/faq#q11

Anyway, I just received this from a friend:

I AM SO DISGUSTED WITH THE NEW YAHOO, SOMETIMES I CAN NOT ADD YOU OR 
OTHERS SO I JUST DON'T SEND ANYTHING. I WILL KEEP YOU ON MY LIST



On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, authfriend@...
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

*My Yahoo Mail hasn't been down at all.*

*
Richard wrote:

*
 If you are using Yahoo Mail, it's been down for days. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] OMG: Govinda Bhagvatpaada = RIC of Patañjali??

2013-12-08 Thread cardemaister

Shankaracharya's guru had told Shankaracharya that Patanjali was reincarnated 
as Govinda Bhagavatpada and was meditating in a cave somewhere in the state of 
samadhi.[12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patanjali#cite_note-12 
 

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patanjali#Transcendental_Meditation_program_and_Patanjali

[FairfieldLife] RE: OMG: Govinda Bhagvatpaada = RIC of Patañjali??

Typical hindoo apocrypha

[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Re It was dark and disturbing, although the tune wasn't bad.  I was channeling 
S3raphita's seeming interest with the deviant psyche (sorry S3raphita). 
However, I'm too sensitive; I don't see horror movies either.:
 

 Horror is one of my favourite genres. However, it's the atmospheric stuff I 
watch - Nicolas Roeg's Don't Look Now is perfection. 

 

 Yes, Wayne County was disturbing (he is now a she so calls herself Jayne 
County). But that's what genuine punk was supposed to be about. 
 

 I also linked above to The Ozark Mountain Daredevils performing You Made It 
Right. It's really a beautiful hymn. It should calm you down. Lyrics:
 
 I've got a moon out my window in the night
and I've got a sun out my doorway when it gets light
I've got stones on the mountain and a clear, blue, wind-swept sky
thank you, Lord
you made it right, you made it right

and I've got a woman to love me when I'm gone
and I've got stars to find me the way back home
I've got rain in the morning when I'm stranded all alone
thank you, Lord
you made it right, you made it right

I've been standin' on a hillside in the night
and I've been singin' 'bout the good things and the light
there's a new star on the horizon and it nearly fills the sky
thank you, Lord
you made it right, you made it right

[FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Re Off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please define 
communism:

 

 You keep posting this challenge. We all know what Communist states were like - 
and we all know we sure as hell wouldn't want to live there. If you mean cuddly 
communism with a small c it boils down to holding goods in common and 
everyone looking out for each other. That's all fine and dandy (and even noble) 
but it only works in small groups - monastic communities; utopian settlements; 
artistic communes. It can't be established in a nation state without bringing 
into play the nasty totalitarian urge to control all aspects of life. Ie, no 
freedom for the individual.

[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

Thank you S3raphita; balance is always achieved one way or another.  I am stuck 
in the psychology of my illusionary self in the moment and the sensitivity of 
my feeling self, so do plan to retreat for awhile and allow my mind to quiet 
and my heart to heal; my reactivity is paining me. No advice needed.  A lurker 
I will be and I do always enjoy your posts, despite what a few I tagged 
together might set off within me.  No worries, really, except perhaps that 
emergency preparedness is still on the list of things to do. Sincerely, Em

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

I post the challenge because most people throw the word around applying 
it to things like totalitarian and authoritarian states.  Those can also 
be right wing.  They also confuse communism and socialism.


Most of the arguments I hear are emotional and not intellectual. IOW, 
just knew jerk reactions.  Nobody wants a big brother at their back 
telling them what to do but you can get that too in a plutocracy.  I 
don't expect folks to be poli-sci students (I wasn't either but it was a 
popular major back in the day) but I *do *expect some nuance in the 
discussion.


BTW, gangs are also collectivist.

The role of the state is to keep the commons open and free.  It also 
should restrict any tyranny by those who feel they were born to rule or 
doing God's work (like Jamie Dimon claims).


On 12/08/2013 03:20 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Re Off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please 
define communism:



You keep posting this challenge. We all know what Communist states 
were like - and we all know we sure as hell wouldn't want to live 
there. If you mean cuddly communism with a small c it boils down to 
holding goods in common and everyone looking out for each other. 
That's all fine and dandy (and even noble) but it only works in small 
groups - monastic communities; utopian settlements; artistic communes. 
It can't be established in a nation state without bringing into play 
the nasty totalitarian urge to control all aspects of life. Ie, no 
freedom for the individual.

[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

When I say Wayne County was disturbing I should have added he was also 
hilarious. It's the darkest of black humour but his performances in the punk 
venues in London were always packed out.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Communalism? Son, you got a mental picture of the Standing Committee of the 
Chinese Communist Politburo. They are the ones who bought out Smithfield hogs, 
lock, stock and all for cash. You know it (Red chinese commune-ism in this 
case) when you see it. Communism.  Communists. That picture is worth a thousand 
defining words. The nuke-armed subs and cruisers are theirs. Pointed at us, is 
what they are saying in these press-releases. 
 -Buck
 
 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

 Buck, off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please define 
communism.
 

 

 Buck wrote:
 

 We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese generals, 
some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a couple of red 
narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war room of the old Palace 
playing with the controls of nuke subs and cruisers, and we got problems. This 
is for real. A fleet of nuke-armed naval subs and cruisers.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Seven states of Consciousness

Concise and thoughtful. Helpful too as a checking to read it.RJ, Thanks for 
posting this short scholarly piece here on FFL. It was a pleasure to read it 
and then go in to meditate. 
 
 -Buck
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 On 12/8/2013 10:14 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
  Cite the specific, traditional sources for MMY's schema.
 
 It has already been established that MMY's first four states of 
 consciousness are drawn directly from Mandukya Upanishad, which was 
 commented on by Gaudapadacharya, the first exponent of Advaita Vedanta 
 in India, and by the Adi Shankaracharya in the 8th century. What has not 
 been determined is whether Gauda composed the Kariak AND the Upanishad. 
 Go figure.
 
 Obviously there must have been an active dialog between proponents of 
 Advaita and Vajrayana Buddhism because the nomenclature in Mandukya is 
 very similar to the work of Asanga Maitreyanatha in his Mahayana Sutra 
 Lankara.
 
 According to Sharma, these are twelve verses expounding the mystic 
 syllable Aum, the three psychological states of waking, dreaming and 
 sleeping, and the transcendent fourth state of illumination. This one 
 Upanishad consisting ot twelve verses, is sufficient to insure 
 realization of the transcendent by reason alone, even without the 
 benefit of a yoga praxis. The Adi Shankara agrees with this.
 
 Excerpt from mANDUkya kArikA IV by gauDapAda:
 
 Duality is only an appearance; non-duality is
 the real truth. The object exists as an object
 for the knowing subject; but it does not exist
 outside of consciousness because the distinction
 of subject and object is within consciousness.
 
 According to the translation my Professor, Dr. Patrick Olivelle, 
 Chairman, Department of Asian Studies, and Director, The Center for 
 Asian Studies, at the University of Texas at Austin:
 
 Anyone who knows this is sure to construct this whole world and to 
 become also its destruction.
 
 Swami Bhaktivedanta Saraswati, a Vedantin, enumerates the five classical 
 states of consciousness which are similar to MMY:
 
 1. Wakefulness (jagrat)
 2. Dream state (svapna)
 3. Deep sleep (sushupti)
 4. Superconscious state (turiya)
 5. Transcendent state (turiyatita)
 
 The Seven States is a well defined explanation of the different states 
 of consciousness humans must develop in order to reach enlightenment. 
 This Seven States typology is easy for TMers to understand - I don't 
 know why you want to confuse anyone by interjecting human sacrifice into 
 the dialog. Are you just attempting to distract and and make it seem 
 complicated? Go figure.
 
 So, for the benefit of some TMers and for the non-TMers on the forum, 
 these are the Seven States of Consciousness enumerated by MMY. It's not 
 complicated.
 
 1. Waking State Consciousness
 2. Dream State Consciousness
 3. Dream State Consciousness
 4. Transcendental Consciousness
 5. Cosmic Consciousness
 6. God Consciousness
 7. Unity Consciousness
 
 Work cited:
 
 Mandukya Upanishad, Sanskrit:
 
http://fiindolo.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/1_sanskr/1_veda/4_upa/agsas_1u.htm 
http://fiindolo.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/1_sanskr/1_veda/4_upa/agsas_1u.htm
 
 Mandukya Upanishad (with Gaudapada Karikas), Charles Johnston translation:
 http://www.bharatadesam.com/spiritual/upanishads/mandukya_upanishad.php 
http://www.bharatadesam.com/spiritual/upanishads/mandukya_upanishad.php
 
 'A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy'
 by Chandrahar Sharma, Shastri, M.A., D.Phil., D.Litt., LL.B.,
 Dept. of Phil., Benares Hindu U.
 Rider, 1960
 p. 239; 245-246
 
 'The Upanishads'
 Translated by Patrick Olivelle, Ph.D.
 Oxford World's Classics
 pp. 288-289
 
 Also see:
 
 'OM Mantra and 7 Levels of Consciousness'
 by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati
 http://www.swamij.com/om.htm#sevenstates 
http://www.swamij.com/om.htm#sevenstates

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

The Chinese Communist Politburo bought Smithfield?  Maybe you better let 
NBC News know because they say it was bought by Shuanghui, a Chinese 
company based in Hong Kong and not by the Chinese government.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/chinese-get-ok-buy-american-pork-producer-4B11243408

On 12/08/2013 03:58 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Communalism? Son, you got a mental picture of the Standing Committee 
of the Chinese Communist Politburo. They are the ones who bought out 
Smithfield hogs, lock, stock and all for cash. You know it (Red 
chinese commune-ism in this case) when you see it. Communism. 
 Communists. That picture is worth a thousand defining words. The 
nuke-armed subs and cruisers are theirs. Pointed at us, is what they 
are saying in these press-releases. *


*-Buck*




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

Buck, off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) 
please define communism.



Buck wrote:


*We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese 
generals, some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a 
couple of red narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war 
room of the old Palace playing with the controls of nuke subs and 
cruisers, and we got problems. This is for real. A fleet of 
nuke-armed naval subs and cruisers. *

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Follow the money.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

 The Chinese Communist Politburo bought Smithfield?  Maybe you better let NBC 
News know because they say it was bought by Shuanghui, a Chinese company based 
in Hong Kong and not by the Chinese government.
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/chinese-get-ok-buy-american-pork-producer-4B11243408
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/chinese-get-ok-buy-american-pork-producer-4B11243408
 
 
   Communalism? Son, you got a mental picture of the Standing Committee of the 
Chinese Communist Politburo. They are the ones who bought out Smithfield hogs, 
lock, stock and all for cash. You know it (Red chinese commune-ism in this 
case) when you see it. Communism.  Communists. That picture is worth a thousand 
defining words. The nuke-armed subs and cruisers are theirs. Pointed at us, is 
what they are saying in these press-releases. 
 -Buck
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:
 
 Buck, off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please define 
communism.
 
 
 
 
 Buck wrote:
 
 
 We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese generals, 
some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a couple of red 
narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war room of the old Palace 
playing with the controls of nuke subs and cruisers, and we got problems. This 
is for real. A fleet of nuke-armed naval subs and cruisers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Every country that has nukes has 'em pointed at every other country that has 
nukes. You sound as though it would be news to you to learn that we have nukes 
pointed at China.
 
I'm beginning to think you're having us on.
 

 Buck wrote:

 Communalism? Son, you got a mental picture of the Standing Committee of the 
Chinese Communist Politburo. They are the ones who bought out Smithfield hogs, 
lock, stock and all for cash. You know it (Red chinese commune-ism in this 
case) when you see it. Communism.  Communists. That picture is worth a thousand 
defining words. The nuke-armed subs and cruisers are theirs. Pointed at us, is 
what they are saying in these press-releases. 
 -Buck
 
 
 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

 Buck, off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please define 
communism.
 

 

 Buck wrote:
 

 We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese generals, 
some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a couple of red 
narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war room of the old Palace 
playing with the controls of nuke subs and cruisers, and we got problems. This 
is for real. A fleet of nuke-armed naval subs and cruisers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Actually there is a remarkable similarity with the TM movement in these 
business things. Like the Chinese there is a small group at the top and then a 
flow-chart that gets really wide right away and then real deep under that with 
individuals and a flow of committees. Yes, you won't be able to see it but you 
can be certain that the Standing Committee ultimately bought Smithfield Hogs 
for that kind of cash. It is a brilliant strategic move on their part towards 
the problem of feeding their people in the future by using up some of their 
vast dollar reserves now that way to claim a portion of world food production 
for them.A fat slice of Iowa just got bought by the communist chinese.  
 
 

 Follow the money.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

 The Chinese Communist Politburo bought Smithfield?  Maybe you better let NBC 
News know because they say it was bought by Shuanghui, a Chinese company based 
in Hong Kong and not by the Chinese government.
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/chinese-get-ok-buy-american-pork-producer-4B11243408
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/chinese-get-ok-buy-american-pork-producer-4B11243408
 
 
   Communalism? Son, you got a mental picture of the Standing Committee of the 
Chinese Communist Politburo. They are the ones who bought out Smithfield hogs, 
lock, stock and all for cash. You know it (Red chinese commune-ism in this 
case) when you see it. Communism.  Communists. That picture is worth a thousand 
defining words. The nuke-armed subs and cruisers are theirs. Pointed at us, is 
what they are saying in these press-releases. 
 -Buck
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:
 
 Buck, off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please define 
communism.
 
 
 
 
 Buck wrote:
 
 
 We don''t know the intention of these communists. Get some Chinese generals, 
some high rank party tru-believer communists, throw in a couple of red 
narcissists and a megalomaniac all together in the war room of the old Palace 
playing with the controls of nuke subs and cruisers, and we got problems. This 
is for real. A fleet of nuke-armed naval subs and cruisers.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Life After An EMP Attack: No Power, No Food, No Transportation, No Banking And No Internet

Try...Thinking...Less. It is not denial - it is peace, and it transcends any 
violence. :-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Life After An EMP Attack: No Power, No Food, No Transportation, No Banking And No Internet

Do less. Think less. Understand less. Be less. 

Don't worry - be happy. Smoke another one.

Hmmm ...

[FairfieldLife] Excellent spiritual advice from Ian Anderson, of Jethro Tull

Wind-Up
 
 When I was young and they packed me off to school
 and taught me how not to play the game,
 I didn't mind if they groomed me for success,
 or if they said that I was a fool.

 So I left there in the morning
 with their God tucked underneath my arm --
 their half-assed smiles and the book of rules.

 So I asked this God a question
 and by way of firm reply,
 He said -- I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays.

 So to my old headmaster (and to anyone who cares):
 before I'm through I'd like to say my prayers --
 
I don't believe you:
 you had the whole damn thing all wrong --
 He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays.
 
Well you can excomunicate me on my way to Sunday school
 and have all the bishops harmonize these lines --

 How do you dare tell me that I'm my Father's son
 when that was just an accident of Birth.
 I'd rather look around me -- compose a better song
 `cos that's the honest measure of my worth.

 In your pomp and all your glory you're a poorer man than me,
 as you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

 I don't believe you:
 you had the whole damn thing all wrong --
 He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays.

==
Here is the song, on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMMcQ6nPyjM 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMMcQ6nPyjM

[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp#39;s Last Tape

 Although I don't believe a Beckett play can  
  ever be reduced to a single interpretation,  
  Spoiler Alert.
 

  Judy, 
 
  Thank you for posting this, I found it 
  compelling to watch. 
 
  It's not easy to admit that we're all Krapp 
  (smile), and, in the end, alone.
 

 I must confess my intention in posting it was fairly literalist. Don't know 
when you tuned in to FFL this time around, but there was a discussion of time 
travel to the past: When in history would you most like to go back to?
 

 Seraphita pondered:
 

 As your rules don't allow one to change the future, I wouldn't want to go 
back and meet an earlier version of myself. Not being able to offer advice or 
change the odds behind the scenes would be cruel.
 

 'If youth only knew: if age only could.' - Henri Estienne (1470 - 1520)
 

 I thought there was a resonance there with Krapp.
 

  I liked the way the monologue, and silence, 
  framed and accentuated what was not said. I 
  thought Pinter's characterization---much of 
  the time using nothing more than facial 
  expressions---was transporting.
 

 Definitive, IMHO. And much of the time you couldn't even see his eyes. I had 
no idea he did any acting. Sure gives you a new perspective on Pinter and his 
own plays. His Krapp was deeply felt.
 

  Everything in the room seemed burnt, 
  possibly from a blaze caused by the 
  narcissism of Krapp's younger years (alcohol 
  adding fuel to the fire of his self 
  absorption); even his wheelchair seemed 
  scorched, I could almost smell the smoke 
  hanging stale in the air.
 

 Ah, that must have been what I was smelling. I wasn't sure...
 

  It's been said that Beckett's choice of 
  structure* was influenced by Manichaean 
  (Gnostic) doctrine, which teaches, among 
  other things, that the world has been ruled 
  by evil since God lost control of his 
  creation. I think this could explain the 
  choreography.
 

 Could well be, but I'm a little skeptical. Light vs. dark, and the three seals 
cited by Cronin as evidence, seem to me too nonspecific.
 

  At about 42:40 of this clip there is a short 
  piece on the Yazidis, a sect in Kurdistan 
  who were influenced by the Gnostics;
 

 I watched all of this video, then wished I hadn't. So depressing.
 

  I was 
  reminded of it when I read* about the 
  possible influence of the Manichaeans on the 
  structure of the play, the burns on the 
  walls of the temple are reminiscent of 
  Krapps burnt wall paper (i loved the 
  wallpaper pattern underneath the smoke 
  damage, I could see the flames of his life 
  licking up the wall).
 

 Wow. I didn't pay all that much attention to the visuals, to be honest, but 
that's quite an observation.
 

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wu0CTPeQjA  
  
  As dark as the play is, I found hope in the 
  fact that Krapp seems to have no time for 
  his intellectual insights as a younger man, 
  but is drawn to his past failures in love; 
  it seems to be dawning on him that in these 
  previous experiences of love he may find 
  some purpose to his existence. 
 
  We lay there without moving, but under us 
  all moved and moved us gently up and down 
  and side to side.
 

 The images of the various women are so vivid because everything else is so 
drab. As you say, you can't pin down a single interpretation of the play, but I 
have to think it was intended to put an intense focus on those images and what 
they mean to Krapp. In any case, I'm pretty sure that was what Pinter and the 
director had in mind.
 

 The second-most vivid image, I thought, was in the play's present: his 
drinking.
 

 Terrific Beckett quote from the Wikipedia page on the play:
 

 I realised that Joyce had gone as far as one could in the direction of 
knowing more, [being] in control of one’s material. He was always adding to it; 
you only have to look at his proofs to see that. I realised that my own way was 
in impoverishment, in lack of knowledge and in taking away, in subtracting 
rather than in adding.
 

  I think spool is a wonderful metaphor for 
  life
 

 Be again...be again. All that old misery. Once wasn't enough for you.
 

  and I enjoyed the way Pinter played 
  with the word. I thought the choice of the 
  word last*, which could mean previous or 
  final, was brilliant.
 

 You *are* an optimist, aren't you? It could mean either, but I think it means 
final. I don't think Krapp has anywhere to go in this life. And at the end he's 
just sitting there listening to the blank tape at the end of the spol.
 

 * 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krapps_Last_Tape 
 
  Here's a link to a small European film 
  (Nothing Personal) I enjoyed watching 
  recently. For me, it's about reconciling the 
  desire to be alone with loneliness, and love, 
  and the oh so human need to be with someone 
  else.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/m5l24wu
 

 I watched this too. Just beautifully done, and a good complement to the 
Beckett.
 

  Thanks again Judy. I try to read all

[FairfieldLife] RE: Life After An EMP Attack: No Power, No Food, No Transportation, No Banking And No Internet

Yep, from the outside, it may look like, do less, is part of the equation. 

 No worries, nearly empty bill, and doobie bro'; necessary thought always 
survives 

 (as the only mechanism available, for fulfillment of desires).

[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

When I was in Watkins booksellers today (which specialises in new age, occult 
and eastern religions) an old geezer walked in, took one look around, and 
announced loudly to we customers: Too many words! Far too many words! and 
then took his leave.
 

 Paying my respects to this awakened one I give you one of the all-time great 
whistling tracks (ie, one of my favourites)  . . . I Was Kaiser Bill's 
Batman. (Working title Too Much Birdseed.)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fRS5nxYxoo 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fRS5nxYxoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.


David Simon (The Wire, Treme) with a rap on capitalism:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/08/david-simon-there-are-now-two-americas-my-country-is-a-horror-show/

On 12/08/2013 03:20 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Re Off the top of your head (without looking at the Internet) please 
define communism:



You keep posting this challenge. We all know what Communist states 
were like - and we all know we sure as hell wouldn't want to live 
there. If you mean cuddly communism with a small c it boils down to 
holding goods in common and everyone looking out for each other. 
That's all fine and dandy (and even noble) but it only works in small 
groups - monastic communities; utopian settlements; artistic communes. 
It can't be established in a nation state without bringing into play 
the nasty totalitarian urge to control all aspects of life. Ie, no 
freedom for the individual.

[FairfieldLife] RE: MyFace

2013-12-08 Thread awoelflebater



 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 My face updated: :
 
 

 

 Vvisit MyFace:
 

 http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/ http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/index.htm
 

 I love the fact that you post photos of yourself. Did you know that your hands 
appear younger than your face?
 

 
 

 






 

 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 MyFace, updated: 

 
 

 Visit my face:
 

 http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/ http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/index.htm
 


 

 On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 MyFace, updated. 
 

 
 
 

 Visit MyFace:
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 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 You've heard of 'My Space'. And, you've heard of 'Facebook'. My new social 
networking site will be called 'My Face'.
 
 Just post pictures of your face, nothing else, and then post comments about 
each others face.  Everyone loves to make comments about other people's face.  
Don't know HTML? Send me a photo of your face along with your real name and 
I'll put up it  up on the web for you. It will be fun and I'll be a millionaire 
in a year or two. Don't be shy just because you've got no hair or teeth left. 
LoL!
 

   
 
 http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/ http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/

[FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

“Mediation in Meditation” It worked before with the Soviets to drop the Iron 
Curtain and bring down the Wall. 

 

 What worked was that the USSR became bankrupt trying to compete with US 
military muscle. Their ballistic submarines were the biggest drain on the 
public purse. 
 

 If you want peace, prepare for war

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.