[FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
As you can readSo basically, AP knows nothing about anything that allegedly happened somewhere and denied by everybody. What will Obama do with this new development? Bomb the journalist...
[FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
Nothing, the purpose of the US government is to excuse Israeli behaviour and keep up the pretence that there is some sort of peace process. We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements on the west bank until a Palestinian state is no longer viable - if that hasn't happened already. Israel isn't interested in peace, it wants dominion and submission in the lands that god supposedly gave it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: What will Obama do with this new development? http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html
[FairfieldLife] Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html
[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi referred to the Bhagavad Gita as the pocketbook edition of the Vedas. It contains all the wisdom necessary to take us from ignorance to enlightenment. The Gita's most important verse, Maharishi says, is verse 45 of chapter II. Here Krishna instructs Arjuna: 'Nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna' . Be without the three gunas , O Arjuna. Take your mind from the field of excitation and chaos, to the state of inner Unity, perfect orderliness. In his commentary on this verse, Maharishi says, It is difficult for a man to improve his business affairs while he himself is constantly immersed in all their details. If he leaves them for a little while, he becomes able to see the business as a whole and can then more easily decide what is needed. Similarly, transcending all mental activity results in great clarity, peace, and broadened awareness, which naturally put life in its proper perspective. Water the root, to enjoy the fruit , sums up Maharishi. Just as a strong foundation is necessary for a sturdy structure, so inner silence is the basis of successful activity. By enlivening the root of the mind, the vacuum state of consciousness, all aspects of life get nourished. Maharishi had the key for this: Transcendental Meditation (TM), a technique of effortless transcending. To understand what TM is, we need only analyse its name. Transcend means to go beyond; meditation refers to thinking. During TM, the mind goes from the surface, hectic level of thinking, to more quiet, less excited states, until one transcends thought altogether, arriving at the silent oasis of the mind. This is the state of anandam - pure consciousness - where the mind is completely calm and fully awake. For centuries scholars have said that it is very difficult to transcend thought and gain the state of perfect inner peace. Maharishi knew otherwise. Transcending is easy because the mind experiences increasing degrees of happiness at every step of the way. No effort is required. Any force or control actually prevents the mind from transcending. This technique of effortless transcending is validated by verse 40 of chapter 2: In this (Yoga) no effort is lost and no obstacle exists. Even a little of this dharma delivers from great fear. Maharishi commented, The flow of the mind towards this state is natural, for it is a state of absolute bliss, and the mind is always craving for greater happiness. Therefore, as water flows down a slope in a natural way, so the mind flows naturally in the direction of bliss. By alternating between dipping a white cloth in yellow dye, and then hanging it in the sun, eventually it becomes colourfast. Similarly, the regular alternation of TM and daily activity results in a state where pure consciousness becomes permanent. Then one enjoys inner silence even while engaged in dynamic activity. Besides the personal experience of over 60 lakh people in 140 countries practising TM, nearly 700 scientific research studies validate its effectiveness (e.g. increased alertness and focus, 87 per cent reduction in heart disease, improved memory, reduced stress). Maharishi's legacy to mankind is a remarkably simple, natural procedure, which nourishes all aspects of life: mental, physical and spiritual. He said, Life is here to enjoy and no one has the right to suffer. For over 50 years, Maharishi endeavoured to make the world aware of this. http:// spirituality.indiatimes.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
Jesus, Huffpo will print any old crap. The Princeton consciousness research was abandoned because they couldn't show a result over the random background noise of world events after many years of trying. It only survives now through private donations. It's the old coin toss delusion, you get a positive result, say five heads in a row, and think you have found a non-random pattern obviously caused by the fact there was someone meditating in a nearby city. Do it enough times however and you find that it was just a blip that happens all the time anyway, do it enough and it ends up 50/50. I wrote to them asking whether they had registered any unusual activity during the Dubrovnik peace project and a few other big courses I took part in around the time of 9/11 and the war in Iraq. They said no, but they were fascinated that there were other groups interested in this stuff. You can be as fascinated as you like but their own research disproved the Marshy effect and here they are joining hands! So I dispute the idea there is a lot of research behind it, the only other one the TMO have is the Washington study which kind of relies on them knowing what the crime rate was going to be and then saying they reduced it. A quick glance at crime figures for that city (and any others) reveals that crime rates fluctuate by that much anyway over the year. Keep tossing the coin and you see that the ME has done jack shit, how many courses have I been on that were supposedly being monitored but the results never got released? Plenty. Nuff said, this excitement over a political upheaval is more arrows drawn round targets. I'd be more impressed if the crime rate dropped to an unambiguous zero, or revolutions were carried out without petrol bombs and people getting shot in the head. Is it peace or isn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
Well, I hadn't thought of that but if the soylent green were made from the bodies of real sattvic sidhas, it would surely create bliss in those who consumed it. Now if they used governors, they could get a premium price, and of course raja soylent would be just for the ultra wealthy elite. On Tue, 2/25/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 12:46 AM Yeah, but is it *organic*? Oh wow! Maharishi vedic organic soylent green! On Monday, February 24, 2014 4:31 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Not if we start eating soylent green On Mon, 2/24/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 5:44 PM The first time I ever heard or read about this was back in the late 60s or early 70s when there were stories about chemtrails in the alternative press like the L.A. FreePress and Berkeley Barb. It is supposedly a classified program but we are getting leaks about it. I've seen airliners at the same altitude, one with a trail that didn't disperse and another when came a long a few minutes later which had a contrail that of course dissolved behind it. Same altitude, same air temperature. Yes, we may well see a horrible apocalypse if California doesn't get a good rainfall. Food prices will go through the roof and not just here but all over the US. We can only hope this rain storm which is forecast to begin on Weds continues on for quite a while. Human population should have been capped at 2 billion. That is manageable in terms of resources and livability. What we have now is the fallout from far too many people on the planet. On 02/24/2014 06:35 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Cloud seeding with silver iodide has been going on for decades, without much concern. The reason we are in a drought is due directly to global warming, probably aided by our huge population growth, and consequent (warm) pollution. We have a high pressure zone sitting on top of California, which prevents the normal Pacific current from bringing us our Winter water. I have noticed the Pacific current, which runs the length of California's coast, has been warming up for about a decade. It was only a matter of time before the land began to retain enough heat, in the Winter, to create a high pressure system, as is commonly produced here, in the Summer months. So, we are in a severe drought. I am not sure how we escape the cycle, at this point. Desalination plants are a good (very expensive) idea for the longer term, though I am not sure that even those can supply enough water for agriculture. A Chinese curse comes to mind: May you live in interesting times. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Indeed it is. It seems aluminum is the most important ingredient in the chemtrail, yet the Californians wonder why they are stricken with drought. Like the Americans say: Go figure !
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Army Times Early Bird Brief
4 Ur info its daily free to all here Col Leed USA Ret. Sidha---BeginMessage--- view email as webpage COMPILED BY THE EDITORS OF DEFENSE NEWS & MILITARY TIMES February 25, 2014 EARLY BIRD BRIEF Get the most comprehensive aggregation of defense news delivered by the world's largest independent newsroom covering military and defense. ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT TODAYS TOP 5 1. DoD budget seeks cuts in BAH, commissary, Tricare benefits (Military Times) The Pentagon on Monday proposed the deepest and most far-reaching cuts to military compensation in the 40-year history of the all-volunteer force, explaining that such cuts are necessary in order to pay for more modern gear and high-tech weaponry. 2. Soldiers survive combat, then lose their jobs (USA Today) For thousands of career-military troops who endured combat and family separations during a dozen years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the end of hostilities brings a new directive from the government your services are no longer needed. 3. Little uniformity in military health care (Walter Pincus in the Washington Post) A new series of critical reports highlights the need to speed up unification of the military services separate approaches to health care, which is one of the fastest-growing budget items but still lacks common standards for dealing with some medical issues. 4. A Conversation with the Chairman: General Martin E. Dempsey (War on the Rocks) We sat down with General Martin E. Dempsey in his office to talk, the profession of arms, military compensation reform, and professional military education. 5. Pentagon: Ground Forces Can Fight in One Theater, Support Air, Sea Forces in Another (Defense News) When it comes to the US Army and Marine Corps, there were no real surprises in Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagels peek today of the 2015 defense budget.INDUSTRY Pentagon Budget Plan Seen Boosting Contractors' Business (Wall Street Journal) The Pentagon is proposing to reverse a four-year slide in its weapons-buying and research spending, lifting prospects for higher revenue at hard-hit military contractors including Lockheed Martin Corp. and Northrop Grumman Corp. Defense Sector Won't Push GOP on Immigration Reform (Defense News) Immigration reform is a long shot in the US House, and defense firms are doing next to nothing to change that despite possibly tens of billions of dollars in business for new border-securing systems. Cracking Found in Marine Joint Strike Fighter Wont Delay Program (U.S. Naval Institute) Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) have discovered additional structural cracks on the U.S. Marine Corps version of the tri-service stealth fighter during durability testing. However, the cracks are not expected to delay the USMCs 2015 Initial Operational Capability date. Lockheed/Piasecki Team Tackles Cargo UAV (Aviation Week) What was once a Pentagon research program to demonstrate a flying jeep has been given a new name and a new direction. Formerly called Transformer, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency's (Darpa) rechristened Aerial Reconfigurable Embedded Systems (ARES) program will now fly a modular, unmanned vertical-takeoff-and-landing (VTOL) delivery system. Report: Airbus Wants Money for Germany's Scrapped Eurofighter Order (Defense News) Airbus is demanding 900 million ($1.2 billion) in compensation from Germany for canceling an order for a batch of 37 Eurofighter jets, according to a newspaper report Monday.CONGRESS US Lawmakers Push Back Against DoD Budget Plans (Defense News) Congress and others in the defense community pushed back on Pentagon plans to cut 120,000 personnel from the active and reserve Army ranks, retire entire fleets of Air Force aircraft and sideline Navy ships. Obama's Defense Budget Proposal Sets Stage for Major Battle With Congress (National Defense Magazine) Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is sending Congress a budget proposal for fiscal year 2015 with few sacred cows. He is recommending steep cuts across all branches of the armed services, he is truncating and terminating major weapon systems, and trimming popular military benefits. Ayotte: Decision To Cut A-10 'Serious Mistake' (Defense News) Calling the Air Forces decision to retire the A-10 combat jet a serious mistake, Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., is pledging to fight the retirement in Congress. GOP block votes on military sexual assault bills (The Hill) Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) objected Monday to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reids (D-Nev.) attempt to bring up two military sexual assault bills. McKeon: Finish NDAA by Oct. 1 - or Politics Will Kill It (Defense News) US House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: Army Times Early Bird Brief
What is? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@... wrote: 4 Ur info its daily free to all here Col Leed USA Ret. Sidha
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was. On Tue, 2/25/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 10:55 AM His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi referred to the Bhagavad Gita as the pocketbook edition of the Vedas. It contains all the wisdom necessary to take us from ignorance to enlightenment. The Gita's most important verse, Maharishi says, is verse 45 of chapter II. Here Krishna instructs Arjuna: 'Nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna' . Be without the three gunas , O Arjuna. Take your mind from the field of excitation and chaos, to the state of inner Unity, perfect orderliness. In his commentary on this verse, Maharishi says, It is difficult for a man to improve his business affairs while he himself is constantly immersed in all their details. If he leaves them for a little while, he becomes able to see the business as a whole and can then more easily decide what is needed. Similarly, transcending all mental activity results in great clarity, peace, and broadened awareness, which naturally put life in its proper perspective. Water the root, to enjoy the fruit , sums up Maharishi. Just as a strong foundation is necessary for a sturdy structure, so inner silence is the basis of successful activity. By enlivening the root of the mind, the vacuum state of consciousness, all aspects of life get nourished. Maharishi had the key for this: Transcendental Meditation (TM), a technique of effortless transcending. To understand what TM is, we need only analyse its name. Transcend means to go beyond; meditation refers to thinking. During TM, the mind goes from the surface, hectic level of thinking, to more quiet, less excited states, until one transcends thought altogether, arriving at the silent oasis of the mind. This is the state of anandam - pure consciousness - where the mind is completely calm and fully awake. For centuries scholars have said that it is very difficult to transcend thought and gain the state of perfect inner peace. Maharishi knew otherwise. Transcending is easy because the mind experiences increasing degrees of happiness at every step of the way. No effort is required. Any force or control actually prevents the mind from transcending. This technique of effortless transcending is validated by verse 40 of chapter 2: In this (Yoga) no effort is lost and no obstacle exists. Even a little of this dharma delivers from great fear. Maharishi commented, The flow of the mind towards this state is natural, for it is a state of absolute bliss, and the mind is always craving for greater happiness. Therefore, as water flows down a slope in a natural way, so the mind flows naturally in the direction of bliss. By alternating between dipping a white cloth in yellow dye, and then hanging it in the sun, eventually it becomes colourfast. Similarly, the regular alternation of TM and daily activity results in a state where pure consciousness becomes permanent. Then one enjoys inner silence even while engaged in dynamic activity. Besides the personal experience of over 60 lakh people in 140 countries practising TM, nearly 700 scientific research studies validate its effectiveness (e.g. increased alertness and focus, 87 per cent reduction in heart disease, improved memory, reduced stress). Maharishi's legacy to mankind is a remarkably simple, natural procedure, which nourishes all aspects of life: mental, physical and spiritual. He said, Life is here to enjoy and no one has the right to suffer. For over 50 years, Maharishi endeavoured to make the world aware of this. http:// spirituality.indiatimes.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
Again to the Movement's credit they are not officially taking credit for the Ukraine situation which they can't really do officially because of the parameters they have established for seeing ME results which DO NOT include violence and deaths - the REDUCTION of such things are what the Movement looks for although very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. My understanding is that the hard core TB'ers make up all kinds of crap about the Marshy Effect. The best one I have heard of yet I was told about just the other day. Apparently last summer or two there was drought in Iowa and the TB'ers were claiming SuperRadiance was responsible because it was burning up the GMO crops. Then when the rains came as they usually do at the end of the summer the Movement claimed credit for it by having done a rain yagya. Looks like they could have done a rain yagya in the middle of the summer to bring rain then. There is no telling what manifestation group psychosis will bring forth. On Tue, 2/25/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 11:42 AM Jesus, Huffpo will print any old crap. The Princeton consciousness research was abandoned because they couldn't show a result over the random background noise of world events after many years of trying. It only survives now through private donations. It's the old coin toss delusion, you get a positive result, say five heads in a row, and think you have found a non-random pattern obviously caused by the fact there was someone meditating in a nearby city. Do it enough times however and you find that it was just a blip that happens all the time anyway, do it enough and it ends up 50/50. I wrote to them asking whether they had registered any unusual activity during the Dubrovnik peace project and a few other big courses I took part in around the time of 9/11 and the war in Iraq. They said no, but they were fascinated that there were other groups interested in this stuff. You can be as fascinated as you like but their own research disproved the Marshy effect and here they are joining hands! So I dispute the idea there is a lot of research behind it, the only other one the TMO have is the Washington study which kind of relies on them knowing what the crime rate was going to be and then saying they reduced it. A quick glance at crime figures for that city (and any others) reveals that crime rates fluctuate by that much anyway over the year. Keep tossing the coin and you see that the ME has done jack shit, how many courses have I been on that were supposedly being monitored but the results never got released? Plenty. Nuff said, this excitement over a political upheaval is more arrows drawn round targets. I'd be more impressed if the crime rate dropped to an unambiguous zero, or revolutions were carried out without petrol bombs and people getting shot in the head. Is it peace or isn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
All taken care of, we are fast running out of antibiotics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: OK, we need suicide volunteers to bring planet earth populations down under 2 billion. How are we going to do this?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
What difference will Obama's reaction make? The Movement claimed credit for his election, so we know that whatever he does HAS to be sattvic, right? On Tue, 2/25/14, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 7:00 AM What will Obama do with this new development? http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: concept of Unification in traditional RC
Yifuxero, mySelf as an old and conservative experienced meditator I do appreciate your rendition here of spiritual history that delineates there at the Cathers. Same old and same old that we see even here on FFL of the ontology of the experiential Mystics versus spiritually ignorant materialists and the cycles of generational Spiritual Knowledge revived and Knowledge lost again to the small ego of ignorance and materialism. Graphing the revival of transcendentalism of spiritual experience of the Unified Field through this history makes for a profound reading of historic time-line. Have a really nice day in meditation today. After morning meditation I am to the Lyric in Chicago for some opera with a van-load of conservative meditators today, -Buck yifuxero writes: For diehard TM TB, sorry, but you're way off the mark when stating (like Deepak Chopra), that the True version of Christianity is basically the Essence or Gnostic version. That is, that the true teachings of Jesus were essentially Gnostic (as in the Gospel of Thomas); but simply squashed out of existence with the final victory of the Papacy over any smidgeon of Gnosticism with the total defeat of the Cathars. ... Another cheap and dishonest trick of the MUM people and TM TB in general is cherry-picking certain statements from the Bible and simultaneously throwing out the offsetting commentaries. For example, the statement attributed to Jesus I and my Father are Onefrom the MUM and Chopra pov is that the One is to be equated with MMY's Unity. But as the Bible clearly states after giving that verse, the Oneness is clearly defined as being one in INTENT, (to follow the Commandments, etc), not (as Judy pointed out); an ONTOLOGICAL UNION, with Jesus, which was regarded as heretical by some of the early Church Fathers. However, as the centuries rolled by beginning with the Monastic Fathers of the Desert, there would be no way to experientially separate the traditional RC Union' with Ontological Union, and thus: the experiencer might find some conflict with the Papacy and being subject to persecution. Certainly in Islam. In the latter, saying that one is ONE with God would result in the worst of tortures. (One Sufi was skinned alive for saying that). ...But as one progresses on the Spiritual journey, (so the autobiographies say - Cf. for example that of St. John of the Cross, a frequent levitator); the interface between dualistic devotion to Jesus and one's own realization of Self becomes all-encompassing and increasingly Transcendent in the Ontological sense. But examples of such Saints seem to be rare in my assessment. (offhand, I'd say that one might find more examples of genuine inclusion (both Essense - what one IS, along with dualistic devotion to Jesus), than in RC. ... In fact, there is no provision WHATSOEVER modern (post Thomas Aquinas) RC teachings for Self-Realization (Gnosis), along with devotion in any form. However, if you read the works of St. John of the Cross, you'll see that indeed; some rare Saints accomplished the goal of ecstatic devotion to Jesus along with (perhaps in spite of their efforts, realizing the Self - perhaps MMY's Unity. ... Finally, the term Union in RC has evolved into a state recorded in the statements of the RC Saints as a relative type of union, but not Ontological (refering to what MMY calls Being). ...Sorry MZ (RWC)...but St. Thomas Aquinas attempted to theologically bridge the gap between dualistic devotion to Jesus AND Aristotle's (BEING-IN-ITSELF), but failed to do so since in the ensuing centuries, his version of Catholicism as (by now); been rejected in the official teachings. The bottom line: from the mouth of the previous Pope: there is no interface in any way, shape, or form between the official teachings of RC and the doctrine of ontological Essence. Thus, the Buddhist/Hindu concepts, along with Gnosticsm in general; are heretical and cannot be reconciled doctrinally with RC. ... Unfortunately, various isolated mystics throughout history such as St. John of the Cross and (probably) may Orthodox Saints); have given us records of their experiences describing a genuine Union of the Ontological type AND the dualistic devotion to Jesus. As described by St. John of the Cross, a point of purification (again in his Catholic sense); comes when the dualistic aspect is Transcended in genuine ontological Union, but not implying that devotion to Jesus is given up. Apparently, the dualistic part is simply transcended.. ...Recall that Ramana Maharshi was still devoted to Arunachala Shiva even after he realized the Self. But such a merging of the Self in an all encompassing state along with dualistic devotion is something I can only speculate on after reading the testimonies of the great Saints, from East and West. (but ymmv). ... Finally, the term Ecstasy in RC theology refers to a state in which the experiencer
[FairfieldLife] Refuelling Vimana?
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/ufo-near-ib-iaf-scrambles-sukhoi-30mki/articleshow/30956238.cms http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/ufo-near-ib-iaf-scrambles-sukhoi-30mki/articleshow/30956238.cms
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
I have thumbed through other versions, and talk about distortion - full of so much flowery commentary, that any scientific value is lost. Maharishi commented on the book, and I could figure out what the hell it was about. All the other translations are, from an intellectual standpoint, basically, garbage - even Yogananda's. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was. On Tue, 2/25/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 10:55 AM His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi referred to the Bhagavad Gita as the pocketbook edition of the Vedas. It contains all the wisdom necessary to take us from ignorance to enlightenment. The Gita's most important verse, Maharishi says, is verse 45 of chapter II. Here Krishna instructs Arjuna: 'Nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna' . Be without the three gunas , O Arjuna. Take your mind from the field of excitation and chaos, to the state of inner Unity, perfect orderliness. In his commentary on this verse, Maharishi says, It is difficult for a man to improve his business affairs while he himself is constantly immersed in all their details. If he leaves them for a little while, he becomes able to see the business as a whole and can then more easily decide what is needed. Similarly, transcending all mental activity results in great clarity, peace, and broadened awareness, which naturally put life in its proper perspective. Water the root, to enjoy the fruit , sums up Maharishi. Just as a strong foundation is necessary for a sturdy structure, so inner silence is the basis of successful activity. By enlivening the root of the mind, the vacuum state of consciousness, all aspects of life get nourished. Maharishi had the key for this: Transcendental Meditation (TM), a technique of effortless transcending. To understand what TM is, we need only analyse its name. Transcend means to go beyond; meditation refers to thinking. During TM, the mind goes from the surface, hectic level of thinking, to more quiet, less excited states, until one transcends thought altogether, arriving at the silent oasis of the mind. This is the state of anandam - pure consciousness - where the mind is completely calm and fully awake. For centuries scholars have said that it is very difficult to transcend thought and gain the state of perfect inner peace. Maharishi knew otherwise. Transcending is easy because the mind experiences increasing degrees of happiness at every step of the way. No effort is required. Any force or control actually prevents the mind from transcending. This technique of effortless transcending is validated by verse 40 of chapter 2: In this (Yoga) no effort is lost and no obstacle exists. Even a little of this dharma delivers from great fear. Maharishi commented, The flow of the mind towards this state is natural, for it is a state of absolute bliss, and the mind is always craving for greater happiness. Therefore, as water flows down a slope in a natural way, so the mind flows naturally in the direction of bliss. By alternating between dipping a white cloth in yellow dye, and then hanging it in the sun, eventually it becomes colourfast. Similarly, the regular alternation of TM and daily activity results in a state where pure consciousness becomes permanent. Then one enjoys inner silence even while engaged in dynamic activity. Besides the personal experience of over 60 lakh people in 140 countries practising TM, nearly 700 scientific research studies validate its effectiveness (e.g. increased alertness and focus, 87 per cent reduction in heart disease, improved memory, reduced stress). Maharishi's legacy to mankind is a remarkably simple, natural procedure, which nourishes all aspects of life: mental, physical and spiritual. He said, Life is here to enjoy and no one has the right to suffer. For over 50 years, Maharishi endeavoured to make the world aware of this. http:// spirituality.indiatimes.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
Agreed - The chosen people have carte blanche with the US, even though they are the only supposed ally of ours, that has fired upon a US naval vessel, resulting in loss of life. We give them billions in weapons every year, and allow them to act like the pit bull of the Middle East, while we are then able to appear as the reasonable, less rash older and wiser companion. What a charade. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nothing, the purpose of the US government is to excuse Israeli behaviour and keep up the pretence that there is some sort of peace process. We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements on the west bank until a Palestinian state is no longer viable - if that hasn't happened already. Israel isn't interested in peace, it wants dominion and submission in the lands that god supposedly gave it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: What will Obama do with this new development? http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
My (wild) guess is that a release-date for his commentaries 7 - 18 is set in his will, just as the commentaries to the Yoga Sutras.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
On 2/24/2014 6:14 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: I'm thinking that nature will take care of any over population and as usual, the strongest/smartest will survive. If man tries to take care of it, it will all end up being based on politics and then the human race will really be screwed. Any excuse to make the government bigger. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't handle the infinite wonder of reality. Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know what is reality? John, Barry loves to seek out in others what he deems is weakness and feeble-mindedness. If he can'f find such a thing he attributes false characteristics to others in order to make himself feel superior. He is banking on the fact that most of us here might just believe in God or other such supreme intelligence or entity. He then proceeds to try and make these people feel stupid and inadequate for doing so. Nonsense. Barry merely says generalized things about generalized idiots, and then allows *them* to self-identify *as* idiots by getting their buttons pushed and becoming totally reactive. Works every time. :-) Why bother to say much about such people, when all you have to do is push their buttons and allow them to *prove* the generalized things you would have said? Do less, accomplish more. :-) Seriously, how could anyone take someone who flies into a rage and gets all defensive about such a tiny thing as *belief in God* seriously? It's like a demonstration of feeble-mindedness, and how much the defender of God really uses the concept of God as a crutch. Insult the crutch by denying its existence, and the lame get...uh...even lamer. :-) Hint to the God defenders here -- spend a little time around *real* believers, as opposed to poseurs such as yourselves. People with real faith never get angry and reactive when someone challenges it. Only people with faux faith do that. Read some G.K. Chesterton and lighten up. P.S. for Bhairitu: If you're still following The Following, have you noticed how much like FFL it is? Emma pretty much maps to one of the cult followers here, except that she's...uh...attractive and her FFL counterpart is decidedly not, and Lily maps almost perfectly to Ann -- spoiled little rich girl who reacts to rejection by becoming a vindictive drama queen. Just sayin'... Oh nonsense, silly. You aren't interesting, original or clever enough for me to get reactive over. Most of what you say at FFL is either pure fluff or so ill thought out that it is only worthy of a passing dismissal. Because you are so out in left field somewhere picking daisies when the rest of the team is playing serious ball I only pay any attention to you because you are so fun to pick apart. You are a really irresistible target but only because you continue to stumble onto the shooting range. See you soon, you are bound to keep posting similar hilarities - I would predict you'll come up with at least two more today. Now have a lovely evening.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. It's really a no-brainer; most people believe that peaceful individuals will radiate peace throughout their surroundings. This is proved every day by large populations all over the world. This belief is based on the good-vibration principle: peace in the individual radiates peace to everyone else. This is obviously true for almost anyone with a brain. A guy sitting peacefully with his eyes closed meditating, thinking, or having no thoughts, is a more peaceful individual than a suicide bomber on a dirt bike speeding toward a public market. So, the problem is not with the ME - the problem is with the lack of a consciousness-based education.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
On 2/25/2014 6:37 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Vernon Katz I think it was. Apparently MMY was fluent in at least two languages other than English. So, he probably started reading the Hindu scriptures by the time he was in grade school. From what I've read, MMY could easly have learned to read the Gita in Sanskrit since it is very similar to Hindi. What was needed was a transliteration which was supplied by Vernon Katz, a scholar from Oxford U. in England. But, Vernon Katz's Gita transliteration sure can't be compared to yours! From what I've read, Tony Nader can read and write Sanskrit like it was his mother tongue. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
most people? What we are talking about is a group of people in a closed room affecting other minds at a distance by some sort of spooky radiance effect. Bit different than someone being say, angry and annoying people at work but suddenly finding yoga and being more happy and thus improving the atmosphere. No spookiness required for that as most people would indeed understand but the ME? No chance, it's a category error old chap and you know it. Two completely different orders of things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. It's really a no-brainer; most people believe that peaceful individuals will radiate peace throughout their surroundings. This is proved every day by large populations all over the world. This belief is based on the good-vibration principle: peace in the individual radiates peace to everyone else. This is obviously true for almost anyone with a brain. A guy sitting peacefully with his eyes closed meditating, thinking, or having no thoughts, is a more peaceful individual than a suicide bomber on a dirt bike speeding toward a public market. So, the problem is not with the ME - the problem is with the lack of a consciousness-based education.
Re: [FairfieldLife] concept of Purgatory and the RC Catechism
Michael Rood, a Messianic Jew, referrs to Catholicism and subsequent protestant religions as being a combination of the teachings of Christ, Yeshua, mixed with Babylonian Sun worship. In other words, the *purity of His teaching* was quickly lost. On Monday, February 24, 2014 7:14 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm . Lack of time doesn't allow me to go into this further but offhand, I'd say that the whole concept of sin in RC theology has serious flaws, the moe serious being limited in scope. A more inclusive concept would be bad karma. http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. According to Katz, it was an extremely close day-to-day collaboration, with Maharishi supplying the thoughts and he and Katz deciding together how to put them into words on the page. That's not to minimize Katz's contribution, which was substantial, but it's incorrect to suggest he wrote the commentary by himself. Also, it isn't established fact that Maharishi distorted the Gita. Every translation/commentary reflects the consciousness, knowledge, and understanding of the translator/commentator. There's no one definitive overall meaning that one can determine from the various versions, or even find in the original Sanskrit. Maharishi may well have tweaked his version here and there to bring out more strongly and clearly what he wanted to teach about TM, but whether that constitutes distortion is a matter of opinion. For all we know, he may have brought out what others had missed or misinterpreted. Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was. On Tue, 2/25/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 10:55 AM His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi referred to the Bhagavad Gita as the pocketbook edition of the Vedas. It contains all the wisdom necessary to take us from ignorance to enlightenment. The Gita's most important verse, Maharishi says, is verse 45 of chapter II. Here Krishna instructs Arjuna: 'Nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna' . Be without the three gunas , O Arjuna. Take your mind from the field of excitation and chaos, to the state of inner Unity, perfect orderliness. In his commentary on this verse, Maharishi says, It is difficult for a man to improve his business affairs while he himself is constantly immersed in all their details. If he leaves them for a little while, he becomes able to see the business as a whole and can then more easily decide what is needed. Similarly, transcending all mental activity results in great clarity, peace, and broadened awareness, which naturally put life in its proper perspective. Water the root, to enjoy the fruit , sums up Maharishi. Just as a strong foundation is necessary for a sturdy structure, so inner silence is the basis of successful activity. By enlivening the root of the mind, the vacuum state of consciousness, all aspects of life get nourished. Maharishi had the key for this: Transcendental Meditation (TM), a technique of effortless transcending. To understand what TM is, we need only analyse its name. Transcend means to go beyond; meditation refers to thinking. During TM, the mind goes from the surface, hectic level of thinking, to more quiet, less excited states, until one transcends thought altogether, arriving at the silent oasis of the mind. This is the state of anandam - pure consciousness - where the mind is completely calm and fully awake. For centuries scholars have said that it is very difficult to transcend thought and gain the state of perfect inner peace. Maharishi knew otherwise. Transcending is easy because the mind experiences increasing degrees of happiness at every step of the way. No effort is required. Any force or control actually prevents the mind from transcending. This technique of effortless transcending is validated by verse 40 of chapter 2: In this (Yoga) no effort is lost and no obstacle exists. Even a little of this dharma delivers from great fear. Maharishi commented, The flow of the mind towards this state is natural, for it is a state of absolute bliss, and the mind is always craving for greater happiness. Therefore, as water flows down a slope in a natural way, so the mind flows naturally in the direction of bliss. By alternating between dipping a white cloth in yellow dye, and then hanging it in the sun, eventually it becomes colourfast. Similarly, the regular alternation of TM and daily activity results in a state where pure consciousness becomes permanent. Then one enjoys inner silence even while engaged in dynamic activity. Besides the personal experience of over 60 lakh people in 140 countries practising TM, nearly 700 scientific research studies validate its effectiveness (e.g. increased alertness and focus, 87 per cent reduction in heart disease, improved memory, reduced stress). Maharishi's legacy to mankind is a remarkably
[FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
jr_esq, The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic mind. I did not mention cosmic mind. I took the position for the post that there is no such thing. The question of how things came to be seems to break down into two general scenarios. The top down scenario or the bottom up scenario. In the first the universe somehow comes into existence as the result of being formed by an intelligence. In the bottom up scenario, the universe somehow comes into being by the unfolding of a few simple autonomous rules and axioms. Both scenarios have problems. Science tends to use the second scenario, that somehow, some random fluctuation results in creation of a small number of simple relationships and everything happens automatically from there. Religious thought seems to favour the top down scenario, which seems to parallel the way we view our own human creativity. This anthropomorphic view through time gets abstracted until you eventually get conceptions like that in classic theism, conceptions like an abstract god or cosmic mind etc., and the anthropomorphic origins are forgotten. The basic fact is there is the experience of the universe (at least this is what this frail body of mine results in - perhaps you are a non-conscious robot). Why that experience happens is an interesting question, and perhaps in spite of all our pondering and experimentation on it, maybe there is no answer at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Xeno, You said: The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to explain, or at least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a god. I debate the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'. It takes a mind to conceive of space and time. A 'knower' might be conceived of as being required for experience (i.e. consciousness). But as to whether this consciousness is separate from or identical with what is experienced depends on whatever that perceptual quality of experience is. If the latter, there is no Knower, only the experience. The more integrated one's experience is, the less room there is for a knower, or something that *has* the experience, the experience simply exists, and that is that. The mind conceives space and time, the consciousness makes that an experience, in some mysterious way, but separating out these things as various facets creates problems of logical coherency. I can accept the fact that the Cosmic Mind conceives of space and time. If that is so, then you should be disagreeing with the article you attached which basically says the universe came from nothing. At this time, I don't want to debate the difference between the knower and the mind.
[FairfieldLife] Classical Atheism
What classical atheists think about the nature god:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
And by spooky I mean that it's outside what is understood to be possible in physics, not to mention biology, and psychology. To accept it you have to be prepared to throw out most of what we know about everything for the sake of, what? A few hopeful events cherry picked from the chaos of the last 13 years, and at a time when the world was supposed to be being healed by yagyas. I have yet to see any evidence that it works nor hear an explanation of how it might work. Positivity radiating through the collective consciousness isn't an explanation of anything, it raises far more questions than it answers which is the very hallmark of a poor theory. Give us an unequivocal demonstration instead of half-baked and cherry-picked proofs laden with qualifiers like The extra violence must be due to unstressing that render it untestable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: most people? What we are talking about is a group of people in a closed room affecting other minds at a distance by some sort of spooky radiance effect. Bit different than someone being say, angry and annoying people at work but suddenly finding yoga and being more happy and thus improving the atmosphere. No spookiness required for that as most people would indeed understand but the ME? No chance, it's a category error old chap and you know it. Two completely different orders of things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. It's really a no-brainer; most people believe that peaceful individuals will radiate peace throughout their surroundings. This is proved every day by large populations all over the world. This belief is based on the good-vibration principle: peace in the individual radiates peace to everyone else. This is obviously true for almost anyone with a brain. A guy sitting peacefully with his eyes closed meditating, thinking, or having no thoughts, is a more peaceful individual than a suicide bomber on a dirt bike speeding toward a public market. So, the problem is not with the ME - the problem is with the lack of a consciousness-based education.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
Transliteration is the wrong term. It means to represent or spell in the characters of another alphabet. Only the occasional Sanskrit term in the commentary of Maharishi's Gita is transliterated from the Devanagari to the Latin alphabet (e.g., niryogakshema in the commentary on II:45). Katz helped Maharishi with the translation of the Sanskrit into English, i.e., Sanskrit words and sentences to English words and sentences. Apparently MMY was fluent in at least two languages other than English. So, he probably started reading the Hindu scriptures by the time he was in grade school. From what I've read, MMY could easly have learned to read the Gita in Sanskrit since it is very similar to Hindi. What was needed was a transliteration which was supplied by Vernon Katz, a scholar from Oxford U. in England. But, Vernon Katz's Gita transliteration sure can't be compared to yours! From what I've read, Tony Nader can read and write Sanskrit like it was his mother tongue. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
Well, of course we'll have to make sure any reduction in population is done *fairly*, otherwise it wouldn't be *fair*. Every politically organized group will need to be represented equally. On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:45 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/24/2014 6:14 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: I'm thinking that nature will take care of any over population and as usual, the strongest/smartest will survive. If man tries to take care of it, it will all end up being based on politics and then the human race will really be screwed. Any excuse to make the government bigger. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
Maharishi's version does show some interesting deviations from other translations, such as rendering maha as 'subtle' rather than 'great' when in the context of meditation. I think, as far as it went, since it is incomplete, it is an insightful translation. Vernon Katz told me once he had all these tapes resulting from the work with Maharishi, and he was wondering how they could be preserved. That seemed to indicate they were in his personal possession (that was about twenty years ago). I recall telling him that the tapes needed to be digitized because analogue tape was subject to mechanical deterioration and the signal, if copied in analogue form, would also get noisier and more distorted, while digital copying, even to materials that can mechanically deteriorate, can be copied faithfully to a new substrate because error correction in digital code preserves the information in spite of minor errors cause by imperfections in the substrate. He seemed such a simple sweet guy, not much into technicalities, so I doubt what I said had much impact. That was my only conversation with the man. I saw a photograph once, of Vernon and Maharishi sitting across from each other at a table, silhouetted by a window, apparently taken at one of their work sessions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. According to Katz, it was an extremely close day-to-day collaboration, with Maharishi supplying the thoughts and he and Katz deciding together how to put them into words on the page. That's not to minimize Katz's contribution, which was substantial, but it's incorrect to suggest he wrote the commentary by himself. Also, it isn't established fact that Maharishi distorted the Gita. Every translation/commentary reflects the consciousness, knowledge, and understanding of the translator/commentator. There's no one definitive overall meaning that one can determine from the various versions, or even find in the original Sanskrit. Maharishi may well have tweaked his version here and there to bring out more strongly and clearly what he wanted to teach about TM, but whether that constitutes distortion is a matter of opinion. For all we know, he may have brought out what others had missed or misinterpreted. Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
Damn! I'd love to hear a Mother Divine song announcing that! On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:26 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I hadn't thought of that but if the soylent green were made from the bodies of real sattvic sidhas, it would surely create bliss in those who consumed it. Now if they used governors, they could get a premium price, and of course raja soylent would be just for the ultra wealthy elite. On Tue, 2/25/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 12:46 AM Yeah, but is it *organic*? Oh wow! Maharishi vedic organic soylent green! On Monday, February 24, 2014 4:31 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Not if we start eating soylent green On Mon, 2/24/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 5:44 PM The first time I ever heard or read about this was back in the late 60s or early 70s when there were stories about chemtrails in the alternative press like the L.A. FreePress and Berkeley Barb. It is supposedly a classified program but we are getting leaks about it. I've seen airliners at the same altitude, one with a trail that didn't disperse and another when came a long a few minutes later which had a contrail that of course dissolved behind it. Same altitude, same air temperature. Yes, we may well see a horrible apocalypse if California doesn't get a good rainfall. Food prices will go through the roof and not just here but all over the US. We can only hope this rain storm which is forecast to begin on Weds continues on for quite a while. Human population should have been capped at 2 billion. That is manageable in terms of resources and livability. What we have now is the fallout from far too many people on the planet. On 02/24/2014 06:35 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Cloud seeding with silver iodide has been going on for decades, without much concern. The reason we are in a drought is due directly to global warming, probably aided by our huge population growth, and consequent (warm) pollution. We have a high pressure zone sitting on top of California, which prevents the normal Pacific current from bringing us our Winter water. I have noticed the Pacific current, which runs the length of California's coast, has been warming up for about a decade. It was only a matter of time before the land began to retain enough heat, in the Winter, to create a high pressure system, as is commonly produced here, in the Summer months. So, we are in a severe drought. I am not sure how we escape the cycle, at this point. Desalination plants are a good (very expensive) idea for the longer term, though I am not sure that even those can supply enough water for agriculture. A Chinese curse comes to mind: May you live in interesting times. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Indeed it is. It seems aluminum is the most important ingredient in the chemtrail, yet the Californians wonder why they are stricken with drought. Like the Americans say: Go figure !
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: concept of Unification in traditional RC
Buck, I think at least one of those opera buffs in the van does not think of herself as a conservative meditator. Go figure! And have fun too (-: On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:04 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Yifuxero, mySelf as an old and conservative experienced meditator I do appreciate your rendition here of spiritual history that delineates there at the Cathers. Same old and same old that we see even here on FFL of the ontology of the experiential Mystics versus spiritually ignorant materialists and the cycles of generational Spiritual Knowledge revived and Knowledge lost again to the small ego of ignorance and materialism. Graphing the revival of transcendentalism of spiritual experience of the Unified Field through this history makes for a profound reading of historic time-line. Have a really nice day in meditation today. After morning meditation I am to the Lyric in Chicago for some opera with a van-load of conservative meditators today, -Buck yifuxero writes: For diehard TM TB, sorry, but you're way off the mark when stating (like Deepak Chopra), that the True version of Christianity is basically the Essence or Gnostic version. That is, that the true teachings of Jesus were essentially Gnostic (as in the Gospel of Thomas); but simply squashed out of existence with the final victory of the Papacy over any smidgeon of Gnosticism with the total defeat of the Cathars. ... Another cheap and dishonest trick of the MUM people and TM TB in general is cherry-picking certain statements from the Bible and simultaneously throwing out the offsetting commentaries. For example, the statement attributed to Jesus I and my Father are Onefrom the MUM and Chopra pov is that the One is to be equated with MMY's Unity. But as the Bible clearly states after giving that verse, the Oneness is clearly defined as being one in INTENT, (to follow the Commandments, etc), not (as Judy pointed out); an ONTOLOGICAL UNION, with Jesus, which was regarded as heretical by some of the early Church Fathers. However, as the centuries rolled by beginning with the Monastic Fathers of the Desert, there would be no way to experientially separate the traditional RC Union' with Ontological Union, and thus: the experiencer might find some conflict with the Papacy and being subject to persecution. Certainly in Islam. In the latter, saying that one is ONE with God would result in the worst of tortures. (One Sufi was skinned alive for saying that). ...But as one progresses on the Spiritual journey, (so the autobiographies say - Cf. for example that of St. John of the Cross, a frequent levitator); the interface between dualistic devotion to Jesus and one's own realization of Self becomes all-encompassing and increasingly Transcendent in the Ontological sense. But examples of such Saints seem to be rare in my assessment. (offhand, I'd say that one might find more examples of genuine inclusion (both Essense - what one IS, along with dualistic devotion to Jesus), than in RC. ... In fact, there is no provision WHATSOEVER modern (post Thomas Aquinas) RC teachings for Self-Realization (Gnosis), along with devotion in any form. However, if you read the works of St. John of the Cross, you'll see that indeed; some rare Saints accomplished the goal of ecstatic devotion to Jesus along with (perhaps in spite of their efforts, realizing the Self - perhaps MMY's Unity. ... Finally, the term Union in RC has evolved into a state recorded in the statements of the RC Saints as a relative type of union, but not Ontological (refering to what MMY calls Being). ...Sorry MZ (RWC)...but St. Thomas Aquinas attempted to theologically bridge the gap between dualistic devotion to Jesus AND Aristotle's (BEING-IN-ITSELF), but failed to do so since in the ensuing centuries, his version of Catholicism as (by now); been rejected in the official teachings. The bottom line: from the mouth of the previous Pope: there is no interface in any way, shape, or form between the official teachings of RC and the doctrine of ontological Essence. Thus, the Buddhist/Hindu concepts, along with Gnosticsm in general; are heretical and cannot be reconciled doctrinally with RC. ... Unfortunately, various isolated mystics throughout history such as St. John of the Cross and (probably) may Orthodox Saints); have given us records of their experiences describing a genuine Union of the Ontological type AND the dualistic devotion to Jesus. As described by St. John of the Cross, a point of purification (again in his Catholic sense); comes when the dualistic aspect is Transcended in genuine ontological Union, but not implying that devotion to Jesus is given up. Apparently, the dualistic part is simply transcended.. ...Recall that Ramana Maharshi was still devoted to Arunachala Shiva even after he realized the Self. But such a merging of the Self in an all encompassing state along with
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails Damn! I'd love to hear a Mother Divine song announcing that! Me, too. Instead of insipid, sexless women pretending to be prepubescents singing Eat Maharishi Vedic honey, we could enjoy the same Mahablissninnies singing, Eat Maharishi Vedic HOMEYs. Only the best for the 'best of the best.' :-) :-) :-) On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:26 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I hadn't thought of that but if the soylent green were made from the bodies of real sattvic sidhas, it would surely create bliss in those who consumed it. Now if they used governors, they could get a premium price, and of course raja soylent would be just for the ultra wealthy elite. On Tue, 2/25/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 12:46 AM Yeah, but is it *organic*? Oh wow! Maharishi vedic organic soylent green!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Deification and the Uncreated Engergies of God
On 2/24/2014 5:50 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Our members driving this very thread are the sheer eh-pee-tomee-s of deification. You've lost them, so now we will have to go back and start this thread over again. Lett's review what we know: Absolute monists see one unity with all personal forms of God as different aspects of one Supreme Being, like a single beam of light separated into colors by a prism. Thus Smartas consider all personal forms of God as equal including Devi, Vishnu, Siva, Ganesh and Skanda but generally limit the recognized forms to be six. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. Maharishi needed Vernon for his masterly English.
Re: [FairfieldLife] concept of Purgatory and the RC Catechism
Don't know how seriously I'd take what Rood has to say. His credentials don't seem to be of the highest quality: http://www.apologeticsindex.org/687-michael-rood http://www.apologeticsindex.org/687-michael-rood I wouldn't argue with the idea that the purity of Jesus' teaching has been lost, but I wouldn't look to Rood for the details. Michael Rood, a Messianic Jew, referrs to Catholicism and subsequent protestant religions as being a combination of the teachings of Christ, Yeshua, mixed with Babylonian Sun worship. In other words, the *purity of His teaching* was quickly lost. On Monday, February 24, 2014 7:14 PM, yifuxero@... yifuxero@... wrote: http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm . Lack of time doesn't allow me to go into this further but offhand, I'd say that the whole concept of sin in RC theology has serious flaws, the moe serious being limited in scope. A more inclusive concept would be bad karma. http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
On 2/25/2014 6:47 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: we know that whatever he does HAS to be sattvic, right? You do realize that Barack Obama is black, right?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
On 2/25/2014 4:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements on the west bank So, why shouldn't a Jew in Judah be able to build a house in Jerusalem or anywhere in Judah or Jordan that he wants to build one? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
In Vernon's book Conversations With Maharishi, Vol 1, it's clear that Vernon also plays a vital role in asking insightful questions that help bring out finer and finer details of an amazing body of knowledge. As well, Vernon has a sense of humor that complements Maharishi's own. Even in written form, their exchanges sound delightful. On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:12 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. Maharishi needed Vernon for his masterly English.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
On 2/25/2014 4:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements Translation: Zionistst - anyone who actively supports the continued existence of Israel as a Jewish nation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
On 2/25/2014 7:20 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: The chosen people have carte blanche with the US Translation: chosen people - Jews.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: There is no telling what manifestation group psychosis will bring forth. Just look at the settled science of global warming or GMO crops to see some manifestations of group psychosis coming forth. Next you'll be saying it's getting so cold up there because the earth is getting so warm. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
Yes, why shouldn't the original inhabitants not be allowed to live in peace without their land being stolen by immigrants? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/25/2014 4:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements on the west bank So, why shouldn't a Jew in Judah be able to build a house in Jerusalem or anywhere in Judah or Jordan that he wants to build one? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was. On 2/25/2014 9:47 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Transliteration is the wrong term.* Do you have any comments to make concerning MMY's version of the Gita or if it was distorted or written by Vernon Katz? The original script is of the Gita was Devangiri which was transliterated into the Latin script. Transliteration is the conversion of a text from one script to another. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
On 2/25/2014 10:11 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Maharishi needed Vernon for his masterly English. From what I've read, Vernon Katz and Tony Nader can both read, write and speak Sanskrit like it was their mother tongue. I wouldn't be surprised if MMY could read all the Hindu scriptures in Sanskrit, since it is very similar to Hindi, Gujarati, Oriya, Marathi, and Nepali. There are numerous translations of the Gita - most of them seem to agree on the main points of the scripture - it's all about Yoga.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
And Katz's scholarly knowledge of Sanskrit. He wouldn't have been much help on the translation otherwise. Years ago I read a piece by--or an interview with, can't remember--Katz talking about working with Maharishi on the Gita. It was beautiful; I wish I could find it again. Their interactions were apparently a deeply blissful experience for Katz. At one point, also some years ago, Katz was featured at a MUM WPA talking about his work with MMY and, as I recall, about the next six (?) Gita chapters they had translated. I don't think they've ever been published, but photocopies were circulating for a while. Someone sent me one, but I have no idea where it's got to. There must be videos of Katz's presentation; I'd give a lot to see them. MUM Press has Conversations with Maharishi by Katz describing his work with Maharishi on Maharishi's commentary on the Brahma-Sutra: http://www.mumpress.com/books/other-authors/f06.html http://www.mumpress.com/books/other-authors/f06.html Costs $39. I'll probably break down and shell out for it at some point. I wonder if the commentary itself will ever be published. (Me) Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. (Nabby) Maharishi needed Vernon for his masterly English.
Re: [FairfieldLife] concept of Purgatory and the RC Catechism
Michael Rood's lack of credentials would be natural since he criticizes the authority of traditional Christianity and being a Messianic Jew, could never have authority among traditional Jews. I think Jesus was faced with similar criticism, no credentials as a rabbi yet he was referred to as Rabbi. Both lacked authority from the religious elite of their time but at least one of them has it from on High. Michael Rood's teaching is very interesting, may or may not be 100% accurate but worth giving a listen to. On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:13 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't know how seriously I'd take what Rood has to say. His credentials don't seem to be of the highest quality: http://www.apologeticsindex.org/687-michael-rood I wouldn't argue with the idea that the purity of Jesus' teaching has been lost, but I wouldn't look to Rood for the details. Michael Rood, a Messianic Jew, referrs to Catholicism and subsequent protestant religions as being a combination of the teachings of Christ, Yeshua, mixed with Babylonian Sun worship. In other words, the *purity of His teaching* was quickly lost. On Monday, February 24, 2014 7:14 PM, yifuxero@... yifuxero@... wrote: http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm . Lack of time doesn't allow me to go into this further but offhand, I'd say that the whole concept of sin in RC theology has serious flaws, the moe serious being limited in scope. A more inclusive concept would be bad karma. http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
On 02/25/2014 06:52 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: *From:* awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:40 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't handle the infinite wonder of reality. Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know what is reality? John, Barry loves to seek out in others what he deems is weakness and feeble-mindedness. If he can'f find such a thing he attributes false characteristics to others in order to make himself feel superior. He is banking on the fact that most of us here might just believe in God or other such supreme intelligence or entity. He then proceeds to try and make these people feel stupid and inadequate for doing so. Nonsense. Barry merely says generalized things about generalized idiots, and then allows *them* to self-identify *as* idiots by getting their buttons pushed and becoming totally reactive. Works every time. :-) Why bother to say much about such people, when all you have to do is push their buttons and allow them to *prove* the generalized things you would have said? Do less, accomplish more. :-) Seriously, how could anyone take someone who flies into a rage and gets all defensive about such a tiny thing as *belief in God* seriously? It's like a demonstration of feeble-mindedness, and how much the defender of God really uses the concept of God as a crutch. Insult the crutch by denying its existence, and the lame get...uh...even lamer. :-) Hint to the God defenders here -- spend a little time around *real* believers, as opposed to poseurs such as yourselves. People with real faith never get angry and reactive when someone challenges it. Only people with faux faith do that. Read some G.K. Chesterton and lighten up. P.S. for Bhairitu: If you're still following The Following, have you noticed how much like FFL it is? Emma pretty much maps to one of the cult followers here, except that she's...uh...attractive and her FFL counterpart is decidedly not, and Lily maps almost perfectly to Ann -- spoiled little rich girl who reacts to rejection by becoming a vindictive drama queen. Just sayin'... */ /* /Oh nonsense, silly. You aren't interesting, original or clever enough for me to get reactive over. Most of what you say at FFL is either pure fluff or so ill thought out that it is only worthy of a passing dismissal. Because you are so out in left field somewhere picking daisies when the rest of the team is playing serious ball I only pay any attention to you because you are so fun to pick apart. You are a really irresistible target but only because you continue to stumble onto the shooting range. See you soon, you are bound to keep posting similar hilarities - I would predict you'll come up with at least two more today. Now have a lovely evening. / / /What is really hilarious is /the rest of the team is playing serious ball. /The coven takes itself way too seriously/. /:-D / ///
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
Which they did along side their neighbors before a bunch of right wing wackos decided to move in there. On 02/25/2014 08:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Yes, why shouldn't the original inhabitants not be allowed to live in peace without their land being stolen by immigrants? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/25/2014 4:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements on the west bank So, why shouldn't a Jew in Judah be able to build a house in Jerusalem or anywhere in Judah or Jordan that he wants to build one? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
Obviously you have no clue who Zionists are. They are right wing wackos. Not all Israelis support them either. On 02/25/2014 08:32 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 2/25/2014 4:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements Translation: Zionistst - anyone who actively supports the continued existence of Israel as a Jewish nation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Refuelling Vimana?
Vimanas. :-) Believe it or not there is a sci-fi movie about a team of US military going into Afghanistan to investigate some unusual energy patterns and discover that a Taliban like group have resurrected the technology of Vimanas. I watched in on Netflix. On 02/25/2014 05:10 AM, salyavin808 wrote: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/ufo-near-ib-iaf-scrambles-sukhoi-30mki/articleshow/30956238.cms
[FairfieldLife] Shrooms With A View
http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/02/25/the-last-mushroom-farms-of-the-paris-catacombs/ http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/02/25/the-last-mushroom-farms-of-the-paris-catacombs/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
If you read the post you quote, you know I did have such comments. As I also pointed out, there are only occasional transliterations of Sanskrit terms here and there in the commentary of Maharishi's Gita version. It provides the text of the Gita in Devanagari and then in English translation, not transliteration. Maharishi didn't need Katz to supply a transliteration of the Gita, as you incorrectly claimed. Transliteration is the wrong term. Do you have any comments to make concerning MMY's version of the Gita or if it was distorted or written by Vernon Katz? The original script is of the Gita was Devangiri which was transliterated into the Latin script. Transliteration is the conversion of a text from one script to another. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2014 06:52 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: From: awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't handle the infinite wonder of reality. Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know what is reality? John, Barry loves to seek out in others what he deems is weakness and feeble-mindedness. If he can'f find such a thing he attributes false characteristics to others in order to make himself feel superior. He is banking on the fact that most of us here might just believe in God or other such supreme intelligence or entity. He then proceeds to try and make these people feel stupid and inadequate for doing so. Nonsense. Barry merely says generalized things about generalized idiots, and then allows *them* to self-identify *as* idiots by getting their buttons pushed and becoming totally reactive. Works every time. :-) Why bother to say much about such people, when all you have to do is push their buttons and allow them to *prove* the generalized things you would have said? Do less, accomplish more. :-) Seriously, how could anyone take someone who flies into a rage and gets all defensive about such a tiny thing as *belief in God* seriously? It's like a demonstration of feeble-mindedness, and how much the defender of God really uses the concept of God as a crutch. Insult the crutch by denying its existence, and the lame get...uh...even lamer. :-) Hint to the God defenders here -- spend a little time around *real* believers, as opposed to poseurs such as yourselves. People with real faith never get angry and reactive when someone challenges it. Only people with faux faith do that. Read some G.K. Chesterton and lighten up. P.S. for Bhairitu: If you're still following The Following, have you noticed how much like FFL it is? Emma pretty much maps to one of the cult followers here, except that she's...uh...attractive and her FFL counterpart is decidedly not, and Lily maps almost perfectly to Ann -- spoiled little rich girl who reacts to rejection by becoming a vindictive drama queen. Just sayin'... Oh nonsense, silly. You aren't interesting, original or clever enough for me to get reactive over. Most of what you say at FFL is either pure fluff or so ill thought out that it is only worthy of a passing dismissal. Because you are so out in left field somewhere picking daisies when the rest of the team is playing serious ball I only pay any attention to you because you are so fun to pick apart. You are a really irresistible target but only because you continue to stumble onto the shooting range. See you soon, you are bound to keep posting similar hilarities - I would predict you'll come up with at least two more today. Now have a lovely evening. What is really hilarious is the rest of the team is playing serious ball. The coven takes itself way too seriously. :-D Serious ball is an extremely relative term. Let's just say Barry is Daffy Duck serious and you are Gomer Pyle serious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAA2Unb0B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAA2Unb0B4
[FairfieldLife] Any Cyber Magicians on FFL?
Kinda be a waste of time here but the tactics do sound familiar. :-D Western spy agencies build ‘cyber magicians’ to manipulate online discourse: http://rt.com/news/five-eyes-online-manipulation-deception-564/ To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
On 02/25/2014 09:36 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2014 06:52 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: *From:* awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:40 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't handle the infinite wonder of reality. Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know what is reality? John, Barry loves to seek out in others what he deems is weakness and feeble-mindedness. If he can'f find such a thing he attributes false characteristics to others in order to make himself feel superior. He is banking on the fact that most of us here might just believe in God or other such supreme intelligence or entity. He then proceeds to try and make these people feel stupid and inadequate for doing so. Nonsense. Barry merely says generalized things about generalized idiots, and then allows *them* to self-identify *as* idiots by getting their buttons pushed and becoming totally reactive. Works every time. :-) Why bother to say much about such people, when all you have to do is push their buttons and allow them to *prove* the generalized things you would have said? Do less, accomplish more. :-) Seriously, how could anyone take someone who flies into a rage and gets all defensive about such a tiny thing as *belief in God* seriously? It's like a demonstration of feeble-mindedness, and how much the defender of God really uses the concept of God as a crutch. Insult the crutch by denying its existence, and the lame get...uh...even lamer. :-) Hint to the God defenders here -- spend a little time around *real* believers, as opposed to poseurs such as yourselves. People with real faith never get angry and reactive when someone challenges it. Only people with faux faith do that. Read some G.K. Chesterton and lighten up. P.S. for Bhairitu: If you're still following The Following, have you noticed how much like FFL it is? Emma pretty much maps to one of the cult followers here, except that she's...uh...attractive and her FFL counterpart is decidedly not, and Lily maps almost perfectly to Ann -- spoiled little rich girl who reacts to rejection by becoming a vindictive drama queen. Just sayin'... */ /* /Oh nonsense, silly. You aren't interesting, original or clever enough for me to get reactive over. Most of what you say at FFL is either pure fluff or so ill thought out that it is only worthy of a passing dismissal. Because you are so out in left field somewhere picking daisies when the rest of the team is playing serious ball I only pay any attention to you because you are so fun to pick apart. You are a really irresistible target but only because you continue to stumble onto the shooting range. See you soon, you are bound to keep posting similar hilarities - I would predict you'll come up with at least two more today. Now have a lovely evening. / / /What is really hilarious is /the rest of the team is playing serious ball. /The coven takes itself way too seriously/. /:-D Serious ball is an extremely relative term. Let's just say Barry is Daffy Duck serious and you are Gomer Pyle serious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAA2Unb0B4 Guess that makes Ann Roseanne Roseanna Danna serious. :-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd_ooIClNoQ / ///
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2014 09:36 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: On 02/25/2014 06:52 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: From: awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't handle the infinite wonder of reality. Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know what is reality? John, Barry loves to seek out in others what he deems is weakness and feeble-mindedness. If he can'f find such a thing he attributes false characteristics to others in order to make himself feel superior. He is banking on the fact that most of us here might just believe in God or other such supreme intelligence or entity. He then proceeds to try and make these people feel stupid and inadequate for doing so. Nonsense. Barry merely says generalized things about generalized idiots, and then allows *them* to self-identify *as* idiots by getting their buttons pushed and becoming totally reactive. Works every time. :-) Why bother to say much about such people, when all you have to do is push their buttons and allow them to *prove* the generalized things you would have said? Do less, accomplish more. :-) Seriously, how could anyone take someone who flies into a rage and gets all defensive about such a tiny thing as *belief in God* seriously? It's like a demonstration of feeble-mindedness, and how much the defender of God really uses the concept of God as a crutch. Insult the crutch by denying its existence, and the lame get...uh...even lamer. :-) Hint to the God defenders here -- spend a little time around *real* believers, as opposed to poseurs such as yourselves. People with real faith never get angry and reactive when someone challenges it. Only people with faux faith do that. Read some G.K. Chesterton and lighten up. P.S. for Bhairitu: If you're still following The Following, have you noticed how much like FFL it is? Emma pretty much maps to one of the cult followers here, except that she's...uh...attractive and her FFL counterpart is decidedly not, and Lily maps almost perfectly to Ann -- spoiled little rich girl who reacts to rejection by becoming a vindictive drama queen. Just sayin'... Oh nonsense, silly. You aren't interesting, original or clever enough for me to get reactive over. Most of what you say at FFL is either pure fluff or so ill thought out that it is only worthy of a passing dismissal. Because you are so out in left field somewhere picking daisies when the rest of the team is playing serious ball I only pay any attention to you because you are so fun to pick apart. You are a really irresistible target but only because you continue to stumble onto the shooting range. See you soon, you are bound to keep posting similar hilarities - I would predict you'll come up with at least two more today. Now have a lovely evening. What is really hilarious is the rest of the team is playing serious ball. The coven takes itself way too seriously. :-D Serious ball is an extremely relative term. Let's just say Barry is Daffy Duck serious and you are Gomer Pyle serious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAA2Unb0B4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAA2Unb0B4 Guess that makes Ann Roseanne Roseanna Danna serious. :-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd_ooIClNoQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd_ooIClNoQ I'm cool with that.
[FairfieldLife] The Argument from Evil
This argument originated with Epicurus (341–271 BCE), and the exposition below is a more modern form of it. (P1) If God exists, then only God, necessary things, and things necessarily coexisting with God exist prior to an initial creation event. (P2) There are no necessary things, or things necessarily coexisting with God, that are evil. (P3) If God exists, then the world consists of the highest level of goodness prior to an initial creation event. (from P1 P2) (P4) If the world consists of the highest level of goodness prior to an initial creation event, then nothing that comes about from an initial creation event can make the world better. (P5) If nothing that comes about from an initial creation event can make the world better, then there is no initially created evil or initially created thing that could produce evil that can make the world better. (P6) If there is no initially created evil or initially created thing that could produce evil that can make the world better, then God will not initially create any evil or anything that could produce evil. (P7) If God exists, then he will not initially create any evil or anything that could produce evil. (from P3-P6) (P8) If (a) God exists, (b) the world consists of the highest level of goodness prior to an initial creation event, and (c) God will not initially create any evil or anything that could produce evil, then God will never create any evil or anything that could produce evil. (P9) If God exists, then he will never create any evil or anything that could produce evil. (from P3, P7, P8) (P10) If God exists, then there is no evil in the world. (from P1, P2, P9) (P11) There is evil in the world. (C) Therefore, God does not exist. (from P10 P11)
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Army Times Early Bird Brief
Russian Nuke cheating been going on 4 now some 5 + years finically it may be brought to more light thanks to some senators, a partial story is found below in the readings---BeginMessage--- view email as webpage COMPILED BY THE EDITORS OF DEFENSE NEWS & MILITARY TIMES February 25, 2014 EARLY BIRD BRIEF Get the most comprehensive aggregation of defense news delivered by the world's largest independent newsroom covering military and defense. ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT TODAYS TOP 5 1. DoD budget seeks cuts in BAH, commissary, Tricare benefits (Military Times) The Pentagon on Monday proposed the deepest and most far-reaching cuts to military compensation in the 40-year history of the all-volunteer force, explaining that such cuts are necessary in order to pay for more modern gear and high-tech weaponry. 2. Soldiers survive combat, then lose their jobs (USA Today) For thousands of career-military troops who endured combat and family separations during a dozen years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the end of hostilities brings a new directive from the government your services are no longer needed. 3. Little uniformity in military health care (Walter Pincus in the Washington Post) A new series of critical reports highlights the need to speed up unification of the military services separate approaches to health care, which is one of the fastest-growing budget items but still lacks common standards for dealing with some medical issues. 4. A Conversation with the Chairman: General Martin E. Dempsey (War on the Rocks) We sat down with General Martin E. Dempsey in his office to talk, the profession of arms, military compensation reform, and professional military education. 5. Pentagon: Ground Forces Can Fight in One Theater, Support Air, Sea Forces in Another (Defense News) When it comes to the US Army and Marine Corps, there were no real surprises in Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagels peek today of the 2015 defense budget.INDUSTRY Pentagon Budget Plan Seen Boosting Contractors' Business (Wall Street Journal) The Pentagon is proposing to reverse a four-year slide in its weapons-buying and research spending, lifting prospects for higher revenue at hard-hit military contractors including Lockheed Martin Corp. and Northrop Grumman Corp. Defense Sector Won't Push GOP on Immigration Reform (Defense News) Immigration reform is a long shot in the US House, and defense firms are doing next to nothing to change that despite possibly tens of billions of dollars in business for new border-securing systems. Cracking Found in Marine Joint Strike Fighter Wont Delay Program (U.S. Naval Institute) Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) have discovered additional structural cracks on the U.S. Marine Corps version of the tri-service stealth fighter during durability testing. However, the cracks are not expected to delay the USMCs 2015 Initial Operational Capability date. Lockheed/Piasecki Team Tackles Cargo UAV (Aviation Week) What was once a Pentagon research program to demonstrate a flying jeep has been given a new name and a new direction. Formerly called Transformer, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency's (Darpa) rechristened Aerial Reconfigurable Embedded Systems (ARES) program will now fly a modular, unmanned vertical-takeoff-and-landing (VTOL) delivery system. Report: Airbus Wants Money for Germany's Scrapped Eurofighter Order (Defense News) Airbus is demanding 900 million ($1.2 billion) in compensation from Germany for canceling an order for a batch of 37 Eurofighter jets, according to a newspaper report Monday.CONGRESS US Lawmakers Push Back Against DoD Budget Plans (Defense News) Congress and others in the defense community pushed back on Pentagon plans to cut 120,000 personnel from the active and reserve Army ranks, retire entire fleets of Air Force aircraft and sideline Navy ships. Obama's Defense Budget Proposal Sets Stage for Major Battle With Congress (National Defense Magazine) Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is sending Congress a budget proposal for fiscal year 2015 with few sacred cows. He is recommending steep cuts across all branches of the armed services, he is truncating and terminating major weapon systems, and trimming popular military benefits. Ayotte: Decision To Cut A-10 'Serious Mistake' (Defense News) Calling the Air Forces decision to retire the A-10 combat jet a serious mistake, Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., is pledging to fight the retirement in Congress. GOP block votes on military sexual assault bills (The Hill) Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) objected Monday to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reids (D-Nev.) attempt to bring up two military sexual assault bills. McKeon: Finish NDAA by
Re: [FairfieldLife] Any Cyber Magicians on FFL?
But noozguru, how do we know that this document itself isn't a ploy to manipulate online discourse?! On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:42 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Kinda be a waste of time here but the tactics do sound familiar. :-D Western spy agencies build ‘cyber magicians’ to manipulate online discourse: http://rt.com/news/five-eyes-online-manipulation-deception-564/ To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo Groups Links https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: Army Times Early Bird Brief
Bill, if you are trying to attach links it isn't working. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@... wrote: Russian Nuke cheating been going on 4 now some 5 + years finically it may be brought to more light thanks to some senators, a partial story is found below in the readings
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Earths Could be Weird
There is no such thing as 'cosmic mind', cause there is no one to think of any thoughts. If 'beingness' or consciousness is like electricity, then 'beings' or entities are like light bulbs. I think Ramana gave that analogy. The rules that govern the universe seems more like a computer code, which is more of an impersonal intelligence. Theists are basicaly of two types, impersonalistic theists and personalistic theists. If one goes by what Judy says, classical theism is a more ambiguous category. --- anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: jr_esq, The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic mind. I did not mention cosmic mind. I took the position for the post that there is no such thing. The question of how things came to be seems to break down into two general scenarios. The top down scenario or the bottom up scenario. In the first the universe somehow comes into existence as the result of being formed by an intelligence. In the bottom up scenario, the universe somehow comes into being by the unfolding of a few simple autonomous rules and axioms. Both scenarios have problems. Science tends to use the second scenario, that somehow, some random fluctuation results in creation of a small number of simple relationships and everything happens automatically from there. Religious thought seems to favour the top down scenario, which seems to parallel the way we view our own human creativity. This anthropomorphic view through time gets abstracted until you eventually get conceptions like that in classic theism, conceptions like an abstract god or cosmic mind etc., and the anthropomorphic origins are forgotten. The basic fact is there is the experience of the universe (at least this is what this frail body of mine results in - perhaps you are a non-conscious robot). Why that experience happens is an interesting question, and perhaps in spite of all our pondering and experimentation on it, maybe there is no answer at all. --- John jr_esq@... wrote: Xeno, You said: The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to explain, or at least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a god. I debate the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'. It takes a mind to conceive of space and time. A 'knower' might be conceived of as being required for experience (i.e. consciousness). But as to whether this consciousness is separate from or identical with what is experienced depends on whatever that perceptual quality of experience is. If the latter, there is no Knower, only the experience. The more integrated one's experience is, the less room there is for a knower, or something that *has* the experience, the experience simply exists, and that is that. The mind conceives space and time, the consciousness makes that an experience, in some mysterious way, but separating out these things as various facets creates problems of logical coherency. I can accept the fact that the Cosmic Mind conceives of space and time. If that is so, then you should be disagreeing with the article you attached which basically says the universe came from nothing. At this time, I don't want to debate the difference between the knower and the mind.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
thank Vernon Katz for that, and you understand it because it corroborates your TM is God mind set On Tue, 2/25/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 1:14 PM I have thumbed through other versions, and talk about distortion - full of so much flowery commentary, that any scientific value is lost. Maharishi commented on the book, and I could figure out what the hell it was about. All the other translations are, from an intellectual standpoint, basically, garbage - even Yogananda's. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was. On Tue, 2/25/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 10:55 AM His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi referred to the Bhagavad Gita as the pocketbook edition of the Vedas. It contains all the wisdom necessary to take us from ignorance to enlightenment. The Gita's most important verse, Maharishi says, is verse 45 of chapter II. Here Krishna instructs Arjuna: 'Nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna' . Be without the three gunas , O Arjuna. Take your mind from the field of excitation and chaos, to the state of inner Unity, perfect orderliness. In his commentary on this verse, Maharishi says, It is difficult for a man to improve his business affairs while he himself is constantly immersed in all their details. If he leaves them for a little while, he becomes able to see the business as a whole and can then more easily decide what is needed. Similarly, transcending all mental activity results in great clarity, peace, and broadened awareness, which naturally put life in its proper perspective. Water the root, to enjoy the fruit , sums up Maharishi. Just as a strong foundation is necessary for a sturdy structure, so inner silence is the basis of successful activity. By enlivening the root of the mind, the vacuum state of consciousness, all aspects of life get nourished. Maharishi had the key for this: Transcendental Meditation (TM), a technique of effortless transcending. To understand what TM is, we need only analyse its name. Transcend means to go beyond; meditation refers to thinking. During TM, the mind goes from the surface, hectic level of thinking, to more quiet, less excited states, until one transcends thought altogether, arriving at the silent oasis of the mind. This is the state of anandam - pure consciousness - where the mind is completely calm and fully awake. For centuries scholars have said that it is very difficult to transcend thought and gain the state of perfect inner peace. Maharishi knew otherwise. Transcending is easy because the mind experiences increasing degrees of happiness at every step of the way. No effort is required. Any force or control actually prevents the mind from transcending. This technique of effortless transcending is validated by verse 40 of chapter 2: In this (Yoga) no effort is lost and no obstacle exists. Even a little of this dharma delivers from great fear. Maharishi commented, The flow of the mind towards this state is natural, for it is a state of absolute bliss, and the mind is always craving for greater happiness. Therefore, as water flows down a slope in a natural way, so the mind flows naturally in the direction of bliss. By alternating between dipping a white cloth in yellow dye, and then hanging it in the sun, eventually it becomes colourfast. Similarly, the regular alternation of TM and daily activity results in a state where pure consciousness becomes permanent. Then one enjoys inner silence even while engaged in dynamic activity. Besides the personal experience of over 60 lakh people in 140 countries practising TM, nearly 700 scientific research studies validate its effectiveness (e.g. increased alertness and focus, 87 per cent reduction in heart disease, improved memory, reduced stress). Maharishi's legacy to mankind is a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
Jerry Jarvis has a copy - he has quoted from it to my friend Bill over the phone On Tue, 2/25/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 2:40 PM My (wild) guess is that a release-date for his commentaries 7 - 18 is set in his will, just as the commentaries to the Yoga Sutras.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
I didn't say he wrote it by himself On Tue, 2/25/14, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 3:31 PM Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. According to Katz, it was an extremely close day-to-day collaboration, with Maharishi supplying the thoughts and he and Katz deciding together how to put them into words on the page. That's not to minimize Katz's contribution, which was substantial, but it's incorrect to suggest he wrote the commentary by himself. Also, it isn't established fact that Maharishi distorted the Gita. Every translation/commentary reflects the consciousness, knowledge, and understanding of the translator/commentator. There's no one definitive overall meaning that one can determine from the various versions, or even find in the original Sanskrit. Maharishi may well have tweaked his version here and there to bring out more strongly and clearly what he wanted to teach about TM, but whether that constitutes distortion is a matter of opinion. For all we know, he may have brought out what others had missed or misinterpreted. Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was. On Tue, 2/25/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 10:55 AM His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi referred to the Bhagavad Gita as the pocketbook edition of the Vedas. It contains all the wisdom necessary to take us from ignorance to enlightenment. The Gita's most important verse, Maharishi says, is verse 45 of chapter II. Here Krishna instructs Arjuna: 'Nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna' . Be without the three gunas , O Arjuna. Take your mind from the field of excitation and chaos, to the state of inner Unity, perfect orderliness. In his commentary on this verse, Maharishi says, It is difficult for a man to improve his business affairs while he himself is constantly immersed in all their details. If he leaves them for a little while, he becomes able to see the business as a whole and can then more easily decide what is needed. Similarly, transcending all mental activity results in great clarity, peace, and broadened awareness, which naturally put life in its proper perspective. Water the root, to enjoy the fruit , sums up Maharishi. Just as a strong foundation is necessary for a sturdy structure, so inner silence is the basis of successful activity. By enlivening the root of the mind, the vacuum state of consciousness, all aspects of life get nourished. Maharishi had the key for this: Transcendental Meditation (TM), a technique of effortless transcending. To understand what TM is, we need only analyse its name. Transcend means to go beyond; meditation refers to thinking. During TM, the mind goes from the surface, hectic level of thinking, to more quiet, less excited states, until one transcends thought altogether, arriving at the silent oasis of the mind. This is the state of anandam - pure consciousness - where the mind is completely calm and fully awake. For centuries scholars have said that it is very difficult to transcend thought and gain the state of perfect inner peace. Maharishi knew otherwise. Transcending is easy because the mind experiences increasing degrees of happiness at every step of the way. No effort is required. Any force or control actually prevents the mind from transcending. This technique of effortless transcending is validated by verse 40 of chapter 2: In this (Yoga) no effort is lost and no obstacle exists. Even a little of this dharma delivers from great fear. Maharishi commented, The flow of the mind towards this state is natural, for it is a state of absolute bliss, and the mind is always craving for greater happiness. Therefore, as water flows down a slope in a natural way, so the mind flows naturally in the direction of bliss. By alternating between dipping a white cloth in yellow dye, and then hanging it in the sun, eventually it becomes
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
If the Movement could make a buck on it, they would and on the song too. On Tue, 2/25/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 3:56 PM Damn! I'd love to hear a Mother Divine song announcing that! On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:26 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I hadn't thought of that but if the soylent green were made from the bodies of real sattvic sidhas, it would surely create bliss in those who consumed it. Now if they used governors, they could get a premium price, and of course raja soylent would be just for the ultra wealthy elite. On Tue, 2/25/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 12:46 AM Yeah, but is it *organic*? Oh wow! Maharishi vedic organic soylent green! On Monday, February 24, 2014 4:31 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Not if we start eating soylent green On Mon, 2/24/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 5:44 PM The first time I ever heard or read about this was back in the late 60s or early 70s when there were stories about chemtrails in the alternative press like the L.A. FreePress and Berkeley Barb. It is supposedly a classified program but we are getting leaks about it. I've seen airliners at the same altitude, one with a trail that didn't disperse and another when came a long a few minutes later which had a contrail that of course dissolved behind it. Same altitude, same air temperature. Yes, we may well see a horrible apocalypse if California doesn't get a good rainfall. Food prices will go through the roof and not just here but all over the US. We can only hope this rain storm which is forecast to begin on Weds continues on for quite a while. Human population should have been capped at 2 billion. That is manageable in terms of resources and livability. What we have now is the fallout from far too many people on the planet. On 02/24/2014 06:35 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Cloud seeding with silver iodide has been going on for decades, without much concern. The reason we are in a drought is due directly to global warming, probably aided by our huge population growth, and consequent (warm) pollution. We have a high pressure zone sitting on top of California, which prevents the normal Pacific current from bringing us our Winter water. I have noticed the Pacific current, which runs the length of California's coast, has been warming up for about a decade. It was only a matter of time before the land began to retain enough heat, in
[FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
Xeno, My reply is highlighted in red below: anartaxius@... wrote: The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic mind. I did not mention cosmic mind. I took the position for the post that there is no such thing. The question of how things came to be seems to break down into two general scenarios. The top down scenario or the bottom up scenario. In the first the universe somehow comes into existence as the result of being formed by an intelligence. I tend to agree with this scenario. That's how Aquinas thought the universe was created. Al-Ghazali had similar ideas when he proposed the Kalam Cosmological Argument. It appears logical to me. What's wrong with their rationale? In the bottom up scenario, the universe somehow comes into being by the unfolding of a few simple autonomous rules and axioms. Both scenarios have problems. Science tends to use the second scenario, that somehow, some random fluctuation results in creation of a small number of simple relationships and everything happens automatically from there. I have problems with this rationale as mentioned earlier. The scientists who proposed these theories probably should have taken the basic philosophy courses in college, particularly logic and metaphysics. Religious thought seems to favour the top down scenario, which seems to parallel the way we view our own human creativity. This anthropomorphic view through time gets abstracted until you eventually get conceptions like that in classic theism, conceptions like an abstract god or cosmic mind etc., and the anthropomorphic origins are forgotten. We are human beings and, as such, we can't help thinking of the universe in terms of the human experience. What's wrong with that? If some of the anthropomorphic ideas can be proved wrong, then it should be corrected when a more logical and true answer is found. The basic fact is there is the experience of the universe (at least this is what this frail body of mine results in - perhaps you are a non-conscious robot). Why that experience happens is an interesting question, and perhaps in spite of all our pondering and experimentation on it, maybe there is no answer at all. The reason why you experience is because you have the capacity to reflect on that experience. This implies that you know that you know. IOW, you can understand that you are the experiencer, the process of experiencing and the experienced. But if that's not enough for you, perhaps Thomas Merton's idea could apply. He said: God is everything that you can think of and at the same time It is NOT. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Xeno, You said: The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to explain, or at least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a god. I debate the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'. It takes a mind to conceive of space and time. A 'knower' might be conceived of as being required for experience (i.e. consciousness). But as to whether this consciousness is separate from or identical with what is experienced depends on whatever that perceptual quality of experience is. If the latter, there is no Knower, only the experience. The more integrated one's experience is, the less room there is for a knower, or something that *has* the experience, the experience simply exists, and that is that. The mind conceives space and time, the consciousness makes that an experience, in some mysterious way, but separating out these things as various facets creates problems of logical coherency. I can accept the fact that the Cosmic Mind conceives of space and time. If that is so, then you should be disagreeing with the article you attached which basically says the universe came from nothing. At this time, I don't want to debate the difference between the knower and the mind.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: Remembering the legacy
C'mon--Marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him sure doesn't convey the idea of a collaboration. It sure does sound as if you're saying Katz wrote it by himself, whether you used those exact words or not. I didn't say he wrote it by himself Maharishi didn't just sort of send Vernon Katz off on his own to write the commentary from scratch. According to Katz, it was an extremely close day-to-day collaboration, with Maharishi supplying the thoughts and he and Katz deciding together how to put them into words on the page. That's not to minimize Katz's contribution, which was substantial, but it's incorrect to suggest he wrote the commentary by himself. Also, it isn't established fact that Maharishi distorted the Gita. Every translation/commentary reflects the consciousness, knowledge, and understanding of the translator/commentator. There's no one definitive overall meaning that one can determine from the various versions, or even find in the original Sanskrit. Maharishi may well have tweaked his version here and there to bring out more strongly and clearly what he wanted to teach about TM, but whether that constitutes distortion is a matter of opinion. For all we know, he may have brought out what others had missed or misinterpreted. Anyone who reads versions of the Gita other than the Marshy version will know that Marshy distorted a good deal of it to funnel people's awareness to believe that it was all about TM. That's not what the Gita says. And marshy didn't write his commentary - he had a TM'er write it for him, Vernon Katz I think it was.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
John, I really like the Thomas Merton quote. I think it's a tidy and yet almost poetic way to get around the problem of anthropomorphism. Which btw, I think the atheists have too (-: On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:28 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Xeno, My reply is highlighted in red below: anartaxius@... wrote: The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic mind. I did not mention cosmic mind. I took the position for the post that there is no such thing. The question of how things came to be seems to break down into two general scenarios. The top down scenario or the bottom up scenario. In the first the universe somehow comes into existence as the result of being formed by an intelligence. Itend to agree with this scenario. That's how Aquinas thought the universe was created. Al-Ghazali had similar ideas when he proposed the Kalam Cosmological Argument. It appears logical to me. What's wrong with their rationale? In the bottom up scenario, the universe somehow comes into being by the unfolding of a few simple autonomous rules and axioms. Both scenarios have problems. Science tends to use the second scenario, that somehow, some random fluctuation results in creation of a small number of simple relationships and everything happens automatically from there. I have problems with this rationale as mentioned earlier. The scientists who proposed these theories probably should have taken the basic philosophy courses in college, particularly logic and metaphysics. Religious thought seems to favour the top down scenario, which seems to parallel the way we view our own human creativity. This anthropomorphic view through time gets abstracted until you eventually get conceptions like that in classic theism, conceptions like an abstract god or cosmic mind etc., and the anthropomorphic origins are forgotten. We are human beings and, as such, we can't help thinking of the universe in terms of the human experience. What's wrong with that? If some of the anthropomorphic ideas can be proved wrong, then it should be corrected when a more logical and true answer is found. The basic fact is there is the experience of the universe (at least this is what this frail body of mine results in - perhaps you are a non-conscious robot). Why that experience happens is an interesting question, and perhaps in spite of all our pondering and experimentation on it, maybe there is no answer at all. The reason why you experience is because you have the capacity to reflect on that experience. This implies that you know that you know. IOW, you can understand that you are the experiencer, the process of experiencing and the experienced. But if that's not enough for you, perhaps Thomas Merton's idea could apply. He said: God is everything that you can think of and at the same time It is NOT. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Xeno, You said: The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to explain, or at least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a god. I debate the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'. It takes a mind to conceive of space and time. A 'knower' might be conceived of as being required for experience (i.e. consciousness). But as to whether this consciousness is separate from or identical with what is experienced depends on whatever that perceptual quality of experience is. If the latter, there is no Knower, only the experience. The more integrated one's experience is, the less room there is for a knower, or something that *has* the experience, the experience simply exists, and that is that. The mind conceives space and time, the consciousness makes that an experience, in some mysterious way, but separating out these things as various facets creates problems of logical coherency. I can accept the fact that the Cosmic Mind conceives of space and time. If that is so, then you should be disagreeing with the article you attached which basically says the universe came from nothing. At this time, I don't want to debate the difference between the knower and the mind.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: In the bottom up scenario, the universe somehow comes into being by the unfolding of a few simple autonomous rules and axioms. Both scenarios have problems. Science tends to use the second scenario, that somehow, some random fluctuation results in creation of a small number of simple relationships and everything happens automatically from there. I have problems with this rationale as mentioned earlier. The scientists who proposed these theories probably should have taken the basic philosophy courses in college, particularly logic and metaphysics. I don't see how logic would improve or refute the maths of quantum tunnelling, are you disagreeing with it because you don't like it? The whole idea of science is to create an explanation of reality independent of what we think of it. If you have a working model of known feasibility that could have created the observed result then you have to accept it as more likely than one you want to be true because it fits in with the way you want things to be.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
It's important to note, once again, that the anthropomorphic view through time refers to the time before Aristotle. From then on the abstract views of classical theism prevailed among theologians up until very recent times, when some theologians have begun to propose more anthropomorphic concepts, such as theistic personalism. It's simply not correct to think of the abstract view as a recent one that has replaced anthropomorphism. I have problems with this rationale as mentioned earlier. The scientists who proposed these theories probably should have taken the basic philosophy courses in college, particularly logic and metaphysics. Religious thought seems to favour the top down scenario, which seems to parallel the way we view our own human creativity. This anthropomorphic view through time gets abstracted until you eventually get conceptions like that in classic theism, conceptions like an abstract god or cosmic mind etc., and the anthropomorphic origins are forgotten. We are human beings and, as such, we can't help thinking of the universe in terms of the human experience. What's wrong with that? If some of the anthropomorphic ideas can be proved wrong, then it should be corrected when a more logical and true answer is found.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nothing, the purpose of the US government is to excuse Israeli behaviour and keep up the pretence that there is some sort of peace process. We all know the purpose of this is to allow the Zionists to keep building settlements on the west bank until a Palestinian state is no longer viable - if that hasn't happened already. Israel isn't interested in peace, it wants dominion and submission in the lands that god supposedly gave it. Salyavin, That's a good logical answer. But the person in the White House doesn't necessarily think that way. He is influenced by lobbyists and other politicians who have a stake in the situation in the Middle East. Ex-president Jimmy Carter has voiced his experience while he was in office. He has also supported the rights of the Palestinian people which most Americans are not aware of. But it appears that the current American media has not publicized the fact that Palestine is a sovereign country and should be respected as such. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: What will Obama do with this new development? http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html
[FairfieldLife] A of E Techniques
Can someone explain to me what the Age of Enlightenment Techniques were and who taught them?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years of my life . Ouch. I think she may have been a little off, and, unfortunately, also had a genius IQ (member of MENSA) - A really, really, really, *bad* combination! Both brilliant AND crazy. Talk about being under fire - Thankfully, I had a lot of great experiences in my life, too, though the onslaught on my being, from a parent, of all people, was very difficult to uncover, and work through. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Deification and the Uncreated Engergies of God
Message 16 of this thread pointed out - Wiki is a soph-moronic source - full of generalities and misunderstandings. This article misrepresents the smarta sampradaya. Supreme Being is not the meaning of Brahman nor is Hinduism a form of monotheism. The terms monotheism/polytheism ... etc are all categories used to describe Western philosophy and Semitic theology. It's all so 19th Century.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Deification and the Uncreated Engergies of God
emptybill, if you're responding to a post (rather than starting a new thread), please click Show message history before you send it so we can see what you're replying to. It's not difficult, just one click. Message 16 of this thread pointed out - Wiki is a soph-moronic source - full of generalities and misunderstandings. This article misrepresents the smarta sampradaya. Supreme Being is not the meaning of Brahman nor is Hinduism a form of monotheism. The terms monotheism/polytheism ... etc are all categories used to describe Western philosophy and Semitic theology. It's all so 19th Century.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
On 2/25/2014 2:59 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Palestine is a sovereign country and should be respected as such. Egypt, Jordan and Syria lost the 1967 war in just six days so they don't have any territory or standing left. Jordon lost the West Bank including East Jerusalem; the Egyptians lost the Gaza strip as well as the Sinai; and Syria lost the Golan Heights in a fair fight. Obviously neither Egypt, Jordan or Syria is going to be managing anything these days - least of all downtown Jerusalem. That's what I think.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Deification and the Uncreated Engergies of God
OK - no prob. I was commenting upon the wiki link that Willy posted in message #374571. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: emptybill, if you're responding to a post (rather than starting a new thread), please click Show message history before you send it so we can see what you're replying to. It's not difficult, just one click. Message 16 of this thread pointed out - Wiki is a soph-moronic source - full of generalities and misunderstandings. This article misrepresents the smarta sampradaya. Supreme Being is not the meaning of Brahman nor is Hinduism a form of monotheism. The terms monotheism/polytheism ... etc are all categories used to describe Western philosophy and Semitic theology. It's all so 19th Century.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
Share, You said: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I really like the Thomas Merton quote. I think it's a tidy and yet almost poetic way to get around the problem of anthropomorphism. Which btw, I think the atheists have too (-: It also keeps some human beings humble for thinking they may know it all. On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:28 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Xeno, My reply is highlighted in red below: anartaxius@... wrote: The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic mind. I did not mention cosmic mind. I took the position for the post that there is no such thing. The question of how things came to be seems to break down into two general scenarios. The top down scenario or the bottom up scenario. In the first the universe somehow comes into existence as the result of being formed by an intelligence. I tend to agree with this scenario. That's how Aquinas thought the universe was created. Al-Ghazali had similar ideas when he proposed the Kalam Cosmological Argument. It appears logical to me. What's wrong with their rationale? In the bottom up scenario, the universe somehow comes into being by the unfolding of a few simple autonomous rules and axioms. Both scenarios have problems. Science tends to use the second scenario, that somehow, some random fluctuation results in creation of a small number of simple relationships and everything happens automatically from there. I have problems with this rationale as mentioned earlier. The scientists who proposed these theories probably should have taken the basic philosophy courses in college, particularly logic and metaphysics. Religious thought seems to favour the top down scenario, which seems to parallel the way we view our own human creativity. This anthropomorphic view through time gets abstracted until you eventually get conceptions like that in classic theism, conceptions like an abstract god or cosmic mind etc., and the anthropomorphic origins are forgotten. We are human beings and, as such, we can't help thinking of the universe in terms of the human experience. What's wrong with that? If some of the anthropomorphic ideas can be proved wrong, then it should be corrected when a more logical and true answer is found. The basic fact is there is the experience of the universe (at least this is what this frail body of mine results in - perhaps you are a non-conscious robot). Why that experience happens is an interesting question, and perhaps in spite of all our pondering and experimentation on it, maybe there is no answer at all. The reason why you experience is because you have the capacity to reflect on that experience. This implies that you know that you know. IOW, you can understand that you are the experiencer, the process of experiencing and the experienced. But if that's not enough for you, perhaps Thomas Merton's idea could apply. He said: God is everything that you can think of and at the same time It is NOT. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Xeno, You said: The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to explain, or at least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a god. I debate the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'. It takes a mind to conceive of space and time. A 'knower' might be conceived of as being required for experience (i.e. consciousness). But as to whether this consciousness is separate from or identical with what is experienced depends on whatever that perceptual quality of experience is. If the latter, there is no Knower, only the experience. The more integrated one's experience is, the less room there is for a knower, or something that *has* the experience, the experience simply exists, and that is that. The mind conceives space and time, the consciousness makes that an experience, in some mysterious way, but separating out these things as various facets creates problems of logical coherency. I can accept the fact that the Cosmic Mind conceives of space and time. If that is so, then you should be disagreeing with the article you attached which basically says the universe came from nothing. At this time, I don't want to debate the difference between the knower and the mind.
[FairfieldLife] Proven Strategy to Prevent Turmoil in Ukraine
why oh why sounds this at least better than asking for yagya donation but IMHO why oh why are not politician and representative of the the demonstrators included ? http://www.eveninglugansk.com/society/1/5282.htm http://www.eveninglugansk.com/society/1/5282.htm (just in case you do not recognize:it is the EU flag) Wednesday, 26 February, 2014 [ Invincible Defense Technology ]Proven Strategy to Prevent Turmoil in Ukraine By Dr. Mykola Didukh and Dr. David Leffler (For EveningLugansk.com which was also published in Russian and Ukrainian.) ... The military of Ukraine is responsible for defending its citizens. As with other militaries, it can now succeed in its mission simply by creating a Prevention Wing - a group of IDT experts. The size of this Prevention Wing would be small - approximately the square root of 1% of the population of Ukraine. Only a small number of military personnel would be needed to staff this Prevention Wing. Dr David Leffler Executive Director Center for Advanced Military Science (CAMS) Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy recently co wrote on op ed titled Proven Strategy to Prevent Turmoil in Ukraine. South African host Shafiq Morton interviewed American Dr. David Leffler this week, Wednesday, Feb. 19, 2014, on a unique solution to the growing violence in Kiev. you may download his interview at listen online http://iono.fm/e/74837?autoplay=1 http://iono.fm/e/74837?autoplay=1
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[FairfieldLife] Venezuela
Today Global Family Chat- a plan to improve the situation
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years of my life . Ouch. I think she may have been a little off, and, unfortunately, also had a genius IQ (member of MENSA) - A really, really, really, *bad* combination! Both brilliant AND crazy. Talk about being under fire - Thankfully, I had a lot of great experiences in my life, too, though the onslaught on my being, from a parent, of all people, was very difficult to uncover, and work through. I think many of us hit brick walls as we grow up and these are often walls made of crazy, hatred, addiction, ignorance as displayed by others towards us. But life is not easy; I don't care who you are or how much money you have or what side of the tracks you come from. This is how we learn, this is how we grow, this is how we either become beautiful and strong or how we end up bitter and angry. I don't know what determines who becomes what in the end, is it grace, is it character, is it luck? But one thing I do know, the more I know a person has suffered and who still emerges generous and giving and strong - I have bottomless respect and admiration for. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
[FairfieldLife] Netflix's new disc delivery method
;-) http://youtu.be/ucz3JpvDQjk
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
Thanks, again, Ann - Agreed, life *can* be tough. ...and a picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a recent selfie. I hope, sincerely, that it reassures anyone reading my recent postings: https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years of my life . Ouch. I think she may have been a little off, and, unfortunately, also had a genius IQ (member of MENSA) - A really, really, really, *bad* combination! Both brilliant AND crazy. Talk about being under fire - Thankfully, I had a lot of great experiences in my life, too, though the onslaught on my being, from a parent, of all people, was very difficult to uncover, and work through. I think many of us hit brick walls as we grow up and these are often walls made of crazy, hatred, addiction, ignorance as displayed by others towards us. But life is not easy; I don't care who you are or how much money you have or what side of the tracks you come from. This is how we learn, this is how we grow, this is how we either become beautiful and strong or how we end up bitter and angry. I don't know what determines who becomes what in the end, is it grace, is it character, is it luck? But one thing I do know, the more I know a person has suffered and who still emerges generous and giving and strong - I have bottomless respect and admiration for. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
Also, does anyone have the 1-800 number, for the, 'Hair In A Can' folks, please? I checked Amazon, but all I could find was this crap: https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5 https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5 and the other option I found, scrounging around, in the back of my closet, is NOT going to do it - It worked once, but no more: https://app.box.com/s/qfpdo6mcpc9ry9koh9f1 https://app.box.com/s/qfpdo6mcpc9ry9koh9f1 Last, I guess I could try compensating, in other ways: https://app.box.com/s/r81xgy88x5uc68h3qsp5 https://app.box.com/s/r81xgy88x5uc68h3qsp5 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, again, Ann - Agreed, life *can* be tough. ...and a picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a recent selfie. I hope, sincerely, that it reassures anyone reading my recent postings: https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years of my life . Ouch. I think she may have been a little off, and, unfortunately, also had a genius IQ (member of MENSA) - A really, really, really, *bad* combination! Both brilliant AND crazy. Talk about being under fire - Thankfully, I had a lot of great experiences in my life, too, though the onslaught on my being, from a parent, of all people, was very difficult to uncover, and work through. I think many of us hit brick walls as we grow up and these are often walls made of crazy, hatred, addiction, ignorance as displayed by others towards us. But life is not easy; I don't care who you are or how much money you have or what side of the tracks you come from. This is how we learn, this is how we grow, this is how we either become beautiful and strong or how we end up bitter and angry. I don't know what determines who becomes what in the end, is it grace, is it character, is it luck? But one thing I do know, the more I know a person has suffered and who still emerges generous and giving and strong - I have bottomless respect and admiration for. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, again, Ann - Agreed, life *can* be tough. ...and a picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a recent selfie. I hope, sincerely, that it reassures anyone reading my recent postings: https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r Hee, hee. You look like a demented Jack-O-Lantern in some of them. The top left looks like Jack Nicholson. All in all, veritable visions from some kind of hell. Thanks for posting. I have a few for you! I'll post them later. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years of my life . Ouch. I think she may have been a little off, and, unfortunately, also had a genius IQ (member of MENSA) - A really, really, really, *bad* combination! Both brilliant AND crazy. Talk about being under fire - Thankfully, I had a lot of great experiences in my life, too, though the onslaught on my being, from a parent, of all people, was very difficult to uncover, and work through. I think many of us hit brick walls as we grow up and these are often walls made of crazy, hatred, addiction, ignorance as displayed by others towards us. But life is not easy; I don't care who you are or how much money you have or what side of the tracks you come from. This is how we learn, this is how we grow, this is how we either become beautiful and strong or how we end up bitter and angry. I don't know what determines who becomes what in the end, is it grace, is it character, is it luck? But one thing I do know, the more I know a person has suffered and who still emerges generous and giving and strong - I have bottomless respect and admiration for. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Also, does anyone have the 1-800 number, for the, 'Hair In A Can' folks, please? I checked Amazon, but all I could find was this crap: https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5 https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5 and the other option I found, scrounging around, in the back of my closet, is NOT going to do it - It worked once, but no more: https://app.box.com/s/qfpdo6mcpc9ry9koh9f1 https://app.box.com/s/qfpdo6mcpc9ry9koh9f1 Here, try these on for size: Last, I guess I could try compensating, in other ways: https://app.box.com/s/r81xgy88x5uc68h3qsp5 https://app.box.com/s/r81xgy88x5uc68h3qsp5 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, again, Ann - Agreed, life *can* be tough. ...and a picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a recent selfie. I hope, sincerely, that it reassures anyone reading my recent postings: https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years of my life . Ouch. I think she may have been a little off, and, unfortunately, also had a genius IQ (member of MENSA) - A really, really, really, *bad* combination! Both brilliant AND crazy. Talk about being under fire - Thankfully, I had a lot of great experiences in my life, too, though the onslaught on my being, from a parent, of all people, was very difficult to uncover, and work through. I think many of us hit brick walls as we grow up and these are often walls made of crazy, hatred, addiction, ignorance as displayed by others towards us. But life is not easy; I don't care who you are or how much money you have or what side of the tracks you come from. This is how we learn, this is how we grow, this is how we either become beautiful and strong or how we end up bitter and angry. I don't know what determines who becomes what in the end, is it grace, is it character, is it luck? But one thing I do know, the more I know a person has suffered and who still emerges generous and giving and strong - I have bottomless respect and admiration for. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
...damn...*such* a selection! YOU choose...though I *am* drawn to the Liz number (or is that Katy?), much more than either, 'Raggedy Annie', or, 'The Newt'...But, if I was still working in an office, it'd be, 'The Newt', fer sure - though I might try for the wig, AND hair in a can, to achieve more of a 'Jack Lord' presence - 'Book 'em, Dan-o'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Also, does anyone have the 1-800 number, for the, 'Hair In A Can' folks, please? I checked Amazon, but all I could find was this crap: https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5 https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5 and the other option I found, scrounging around, in the back of my closet, is NOT going to do it - It worked once, but no more: https://app.box.com/s/qfpdo6mcpc9ry9koh9f1 https://app.box.com/s/qfpdo6mcpc9ry9koh9f1 Here, try these on for size: Last, I guess I could try compensating, in other ways: https://app.box.com/s/r81xgy88x5uc68h3qsp5 https://app.box.com/s/r81xgy88x5uc68h3qsp5 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, again, Ann - Agreed, life *can* be tough. ...and a picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a recent selfie. I hope, sincerely, that it reassures anyone reading my recent postings: https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years of my life . Ouch. I think she may have been a little off, and, unfortunately, also had a genius IQ (member of MENSA) - A really, really, really, *bad* combination! Both brilliant AND crazy. Talk about being under fire - Thankfully, I had a lot of great experiences in my life, too, though the onslaught on my being, from a parent, of all people, was very difficult to uncover, and work through. I think many of us hit brick walls as we grow up and these are often walls made of crazy, hatred, addiction, ignorance as displayed by others towards us. But life is not easy; I don't care who you are or how much money you have or what side of the tracks you come from. This is how we learn, this is how we grow, this is how we either become beautiful and strong or how we end up bitter and angry. I don't know what determines who becomes what in the end, is it grace, is it character, is it luck? But one thing I do know, the more I know a person has suffered and who still emerges generous and giving and strong - I have bottomless respect and admiration for. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them. Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole all the time. That still holds, I am sure. And thanks for your analysis of Barry earlier. I, fortunately, wouldn't know about abuse as I have had an incredibly blessed life filled with loving, caring people. But if you are any example of someone who has moved past their past, moved beyond the pain of their upbringing, then Barry needs to pay attention. You seem like one of the most balanced, interesting and kind people here at FFL. Well done, Doc. Barry needs to take notes and inspiration from your very full and happy and diverse life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Israel Airstrikes in Lebanon-Syria Border
So, stealing people's land is your idea of world peace? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/25/2014 2:59 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Palestine is a sovereign country and should be respected as such. Egypt, Jordan and Syria lost the 1967 war in just six days so they don't have any territory or standing left. Jordon lost the West Bank including East Jerusalem; the Egyptians lost the Gaza strip as well as the Sinai; and Syria lost the Golan Heights in a fair fight. Obviously neither Egypt, Jordan or Syria is going to be managing anything these days - least of all downtown Jerusalem. That's what I think.
