[Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
I use two large dog crates and place them door to door (tie together with twist-ems) - one cage is the sleeping and food area, the other cage holds the litter box. Very important: Drill little hole in litter box rim, and tie to cage with a twit-em; saves a lot of cleaning up from box tipping over! I also use a water bowl that hands onto the cage - otherwise there'd be water all over the bedding. Believe me, I learned all this from experience and lots of messes to deal with. I have used several brands of dog crates - best to look online and see the best prices. I'll see if I have the info and send it to you. People also tell me that you can often get them at garage/tag sales. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood Fantastic idea!! Where do I get a double cage? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the group. I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes (anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat is safe. Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing. Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after already knowing the cats). I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are for privacy. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Introduction
That's how be introduce new cats in a room at the shelter. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 5/30/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 2:12 PM How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the group. I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes (anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat is safe. Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing. Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after already knowing the cats). I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are for privacy. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I wouldn't put Sevin Dust on my plants. There's no way I would put it on my cats. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 1:29 PM Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor
When our garage was flea-infested when I first started trapping feral cats, I couldn't treat them individually. The fleas were jumping on us in the garage, thankfully, they didn't make it into the house. I used diatomaceous earth, sprinkled it all over the floor, cracks along the wall, in the garage - a little away from the cats because you're not supposed to inhale it. The flea problem was resolved. However, I also heard many good things about the two cedar solutions below. We spray around the outside of the house with flea control from www.arbico-organics.com - these are friendly nematodes; sure works for us because I cannot individually use a product on all cats, and I don't want to continue using poisons on them. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Natural+flea+control+for+cats - a whole list of things Natural Flea and Tick Control for Dogs and Cats Get rid of fleas and ticks with our natural flea and tick control products. Our flea spray and tick spray are the ultimate in flea and tick control for dogs and cats. www.cedarbugfree.com/product_pages/pet_pages/flea_tick.htm Non Toxic DIY Flea Control Home Dogs Cats Flea Treatment Horse CedarCide's Non Toxic DIY Flea Control For Home Dogs Cats Horses. All Natural Organic Flea Treatment Products Kills Fleas and Flea Eggs on Contact. A Pet Safe Flea ... www.cedarcidestore.com/NON_TOXIC_FLEAS_CONTROL.html Brewer's Yeast and Garlic Adding a yeast supplement to your cat's diet has been shown by some studies to significantly reduce the number of fleas on your cat. However, some veterinarians claim that both Brewer's yeast and garlic treatments are ineffective, and that no controlled scientific or clinical tests have shown these two ingredients to have any effect on fleas. Dr. Pitcairn's (author of Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs Cats) experience with yeast has shown some favorable effects, particularly when the cat's health is good. Brewer's yeast tablets may act as a flea repellent (working from the inside out). You can buy Brewer's yeast tablets and give these to your cat as a treat. You can also rub the yeast directly into your cat's coat. Raw garlic is considered another natural flea control treatment that may also act as a flea repellent. It is supposed to make your cat's blood unappealing to fleas. One recommendation is to crush a little garlic in your cat's food everyday while you are fighting fleas. But please note that there is some debate as to how safe garlic is for your feline friend. You may also be able to find garlic tablets to give to your cat as treats. Brewer's yeast and garlic are supposed to be relatively harmless to your cat, so if you give yeast or garlic to your cat as a natural flea control treatment, you can safely judge for yourself whether they offer any flea protection or flea control for your cat. Combination Brewer's yeast and garlic tablets can also be given to your cat as a treat, although some cats are too finicky to consider this a treat. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I have never heard of it, but what I have just read on several sites, Sevin powder sounds very dangerous and is definitely poisonous! Diatomaceous earth is not, it's just an irritant when inhaled. One can also use the food grade diatomaceous earth to control worms in cats by mixing it into the food once in a while. How to Kill Fleas With Sevin Killing flea populations is easy with Sevin Dust. This product works on a variety of insects and is very effective in controlling fleas. The active ingredient in Sevin Dust is carbaryl, an insecticide that kills over one hundred insect species. Sevin Dust can be sprinkled in the yard on your lawn, and also on fruit and vegetable bearing trees and plants as well as shade trees, bushes and ornamental type plants. Some people put Sevin Dust on window sills to keep fleas from coming inside their homes. Sevin Dust is a highly poisonous product so care must be taken when handling it. It is not recommended that you use Sevin Dust on your pets, even though some people do. Difficulty:EasyInstructions Things You'll Need Sevin Dust Gloves Mask Goggles Shaker bottle 1 Read the instructions and warnings on the product packaging. Sevin Dust is a poison. While it has been approved for use, you do not want the dust on your skin or in your eyes. More importantly, it is easy to inhale Sevin Dust as the powder is very fine. Wear a mask while working with this product. 2 Decide what areas you want to treat. Because Sevin Dust is so versatile, you can sprinkle it anywhere in your yard. The caution is that Sevin Dust is a wide spectrum insecticide, meaning it kills many different types of insects. While you may not like fleas in your yard, other insects are beneficial. Insects are killed when they ingest it, so put Sevin only in the places where you know the fleas are, and out of places that beneficial insects such as lady bugs inhabit. 3 Sprinkle Sevin Dust on the areas you wish to treat. Put it into your shaker bottle. Now shake the Sevin Dust on the areas you want treated. If you have fleas coming into your home, treat the perimeter of your home by sprinkling Sevin Dust where your home's foundation and ground meet. Place Sevin Dust at the base of any doorways, being careful not to get it inside the door frame. Lastly, sprinkle Sevin Dust on your lawn. 4 Wash your hands thoroughly with warm water and soap when you are finished. Also discard your mask, or if it is plastic, rinse it off. Change clothes and put your used clothing into the washing machine. Tips Warnings Use a container that has a shaker on top. The product is very fine, like talcum powder, so a shaker enables you to put Sevin Dust exactly where it is needed. Sevin Dust is a poison. Use with caution and be careful not to inhale the dust. If by accident you ingest Sevin Dust or get it in your eyes, contact a physician immediately. Read more: How to Kill Fleas With Sevin | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4449090_kill-fleas-sevin.html#ixzz1Nxgaamtd -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I'm not quite sure what Advantage does - you could look up each product and see their specifications. I just sent some suggestions to group; some we have used and are using, and some that I am considering, although what we have right now really works well on all the cats and the doggie. Although our cats don't go outside, they use the outdoor enclosures, thereby possible being exposed to fleas. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armorcan look up each of the products and read their specifications. To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I've always had great luck with Revolution, if you need something new. It's not cheap, but I think it is worth the price (about $15 per cat). I only have two cats, so it isn't bad for me. I have a friend with multiple cats and she gets a dog sized dose of FrontLine and splits it weight-wise between the cats, apparently it's the same stuff. I've also heard very good things about diatomaceous earth. I'm actually about to use it on my yard because of the chiggers and mosquitos. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I wouldn't put Sevin Dust on my plants. There's no way I would put it on my cats. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 1:29 PM Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On the same sort of subject: I had a feral contract babesiosis (I think) from a tick in December. It was a budget breaker. Luckily, Red recovered. He spent a lot of time at the vets' and a lot more confined but looks wonderful. Ticks are all over the place and I am getting one or two off of me daily. The ferals can't be treated individually. Any ideas would be appreciated. On May 31, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Natalie wrote: I have never heard of it, but what I have just read on several sites, Sevin powder sounds very dangerous and is definitely poisonous! Diatomaceous earth is not, it's just an irritant when inhaled. One can also use the food grade diatomaceous earth to control worms in cats by mixing it into the food once in a while. How to Kill Fleas With Sevin Killing flea populations is easy with Sevin Dust. This product works on a variety of insects and is very effective in controlling fleas. The active ingredient in Sevin Dust is carbaryl, an insecticide that kills over one hundred insect species. Sevin Dust can be sprinkled in the yard on your lawn, and also on fruit and vegetable bearing trees and plants as well as shade trees, bushes and ornamental type plants. Some people put Sevin Dust on window sills to keep fleas from coming inside their homes. Sevin Dust is a highly poisonous product so care must be taken when handling it. It is not recommended that you use Sevin Dust on your pets, even though some people do. Difficulty:EasyInstructions Things You'll Need Sevin Dust Gloves Mask Goggles Shaker bottle 1 Read the instructions and warnings on the product packaging. Sevin Dust is a poison. While it has been approved for use, you do not want the dust on your skin or in your eyes. More importantly, it is easy to inhale Sevin Dust as the powder is very fine. Wear a mask while working with this product. 2 Decide what areas you want to treat. Because Sevin Dust is so versatile, you can sprinkle it anywhere in your yard. The caution is that Sevin Dust is a wide spectrum insecticide, meaning it kills many different types of insects. While you may not like fleas in your yard, other insects are beneficial. Insects are killed when they ingest it, so put Sevin only in the places where you know the fleas are, and out of places that beneficial insects such as lady bugs inhabit. 3 Sprinkle Sevin Dust on the areas you wish to treat. Put it into your shaker bottle. Now shake the Sevin Dust on the areas you want treated. If you have fleas coming into your home, treat the perimeter of your home by sprinkling Sevin Dust where your home's foundation and ground meet. Place Sevin Dust at the base of any doorways, being careful not to get it inside the door frame. Lastly, sprinkle Sevin Dust on your lawn. 4 Wash your hands thoroughly with warm water and soap when you are finished. Also discard your mask, or if it is plastic, rinse it off. Change clothes and put your used clothing into the washing machine. Tips Warnings Use a container that has a shaker on top. The product is very fine, like talcum powder, so a shaker enables you to put Sevin Dust exactly where it is needed. Sevin Dust is a poison. Use with caution and be careful not to inhale the dust. If by accident you ingest Sevin Dust or get it in your eyes, contact a physician immediately. Read more: How to Kill Fleas With Sevin | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4449090_kill-fleas-sevin.html#ixzz1Nxgaamtd -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Ticks have been horrible this year, I'll do a little research to see if there are any solutions. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:21 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: On the same sort of subject: I had a feral contract babesiosis (I think) from a tick in December. It was a budget breaker. Luckily, Red recovered. He spent a lot of time at the vets' and a lot more confined but looks wonderful. Ticks are all over the place and I am getting one or two off of me daily. The ferals can't be treated individually. Any ideas would be appreciated. On May 31, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Natalie wrote: I have never heard of it, but what I have just read on several sites, Sevin powder sounds very dangerous and is definitely poisonous! Diatomaceous earth is not, it's just an irritant when inhaled. One can also use the food grade diatomaceous earth to control worms in cats by mixing it into the food once in a while. How to Kill Fleas With Sevin Killing flea populations is easy with Sevin Dust. This product works on a variety of insects and is very effective in controlling fleas. The active ingredient in Sevin Dust is carbaryl, an insecticide that kills over one hundred insect species. Sevin Dust can be sprinkled in the yard on your lawn, and also on fruit and vegetable bearing trees and plants as well as shade trees, bushes and ornamental type plants. Some people put Sevin Dust on window sills to keep fleas from coming inside their homes. Sevin Dust is a highly poisonous product so care must be taken when handling it. It is not recommended that you use Sevin Dust on your pets, even though some people do. Difficulty:EasyInstructions Things You'll Need Sevin Dust Gloves Mask Goggles Shaker bottle 1 Read the instructions and warnings on the product packaging. Sevin Dust is a poison. While it has been approved for use, you do not want the dust on your skin or in your eyes. More importantly, it is easy to inhale Sevin Dust as the powder is very fine. Wear a mask while working with this product. 2 Decide what areas you want to treat. Because Sevin Dust is so versatile, you can sprinkle it anywhere in your yard. The caution is that Sevin Dust is a wide spectrum insecticide, meaning it kills many different types of insects. While you may not like fleas in your yard, other insects are beneficial. Insects are killed when they ingest it, so put Sevin only in the places where you know the fleas are, and out of places that beneficial insects such as lady bugs inhabit. 3 Sprinkle Sevin Dust on the areas you wish to treat. Put it into your shaker bottle. Now shake the Sevin Dust on the areas you want treated. If you have fleas coming into your home, treat the perimeter of your home by sprinkling Sevin Dust where your home's foundation and ground meet. Place Sevin Dust at the base of any doorways, being careful not to get it inside the door frame. Lastly, sprinkle Sevin Dust on your lawn. 4 Wash your hands thoroughly with warm water and soap when you are finished. Also discard your mask, or if it is plastic, rinse it off. Change clothes and put your used clothing into the washing machine. Tips Warnings Use a container that has a shaker on top. The product is very fine, like talcum powder, so a shaker enables you to put Sevin Dust exactly where it is needed. Sevin Dust is a poison. Use with caution and be careful not to inhale the dust. If by accident you ingest Sevin Dust or get it in your eyes, contact a physician immediately. Read more: How to Kill Fleas With Sevin | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4449090_kill-fleas-sevin.html#ixzz1Nxgaamtd -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have
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Here are some testimonials on Diatomaceous Earth: *http://www.earthworkshealth.com/organic-pest-control-testimonials.php* ** Apparently, it works on any crawling insect, including ticks. I can't wait to use it in my yard!!! On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote: Ticks have been horrible this year, I'll do a little research to see if there are any solutions. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:21 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: On the same sort of subject: I had a feral contract babesiosis (I think) from a tick in December. It was a budget breaker. Luckily, Red recovered. He spent a lot of time at the vets' and a lot more confined but looks wonderful. Ticks are all over the place and I am getting one or two off of me daily. The ferals can't be treated individually. Any ideas would be appreciated. On May 31, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Natalie wrote: I have never heard of it, but what I have just read on several sites, Sevin powder sounds very dangerous and is definitely poisonous! Diatomaceous earth is not, it's just an irritant when inhaled. One can also use the food grade diatomaceous earth to control worms in cats by mixing it into the food once in a while. How to Kill Fleas With Sevin Killing flea populations is easy with Sevin Dust. This product works on a variety of insects and is very effective in controlling fleas. The active ingredient in Sevin Dust is carbaryl, an insecticide that kills over one hundred insect species. Sevin Dust can be sprinkled in the yard on your lawn, and also on fruit and vegetable bearing trees and plants as well as shade trees, bushes and ornamental type plants. Some people put Sevin Dust on window sills to keep fleas from coming inside their homes. Sevin Dust is a highly poisonous product so care must be taken when handling it. It is not recommended that you use Sevin Dust on your pets, even though some people do. Difficulty:EasyInstructions Things You'll Need Sevin Dust Gloves Mask Goggles Shaker bottle 1 Read the instructions and warnings on the product packaging. Sevin Dust is a poison. While it has been approved for use, you do not want the dust on your skin or in your eyes. More importantly, it is easy to inhale Sevin Dust as the powder is very fine. Wear a mask while working with this product. 2 Decide what areas you want to treat. Because Sevin Dust is so versatile, you can sprinkle it anywhere in your yard. The caution is that Sevin Dust is a wide spectrum insecticide, meaning it kills many different types of insects. While you may not like fleas in your yard, other insects are beneficial. Insects are killed when they ingest it, so put Sevin only in the places where you know the fleas are, and out of places that beneficial insects such as lady bugs inhabit. 3 Sprinkle Sevin Dust on the areas you wish to treat. Put it into your shaker bottle. Now shake the Sevin Dust on the areas you want treated. If you have fleas coming into your home, treat the perimeter of your home by sprinkling Sevin Dust where your home's foundation and ground meet. Place Sevin Dust at the base of any doorways, being careful not to get it inside the door frame. Lastly, sprinkle Sevin Dust on your lawn. 4 Wash your hands thoroughly with warm water and soap when you are finished. Also discard your mask, or if it is plastic, rinse it off. Change clothes and put your used clothing into the washing machine. Tips Warnings Use a container that has a shaker on top. The product is very fine, like talcum powder, so a shaker enables you to put Sevin Dust exactly where it is needed. Sevin Dust is a poison. Use with caution and be careful not to inhale the dust. If by accident you ingest Sevin Dust or get it in your eyes, contact a physician immediately. Read more: How to Kill Fleas With Sevin | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4449090_kill-fleas-sevin.html#ixzz1Nxgaamtd -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May
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I get the Large dog size Advantage split it for my cats. I have done this for years it's worked great, but doesn't seem to work any more. I will try the revolution. I do have 2 cats of my own, 4 foster cats, one 65 lb dog, so it gets expensive. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote: From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 4:17 PM I've always had great luck with Revolution, if you need something new. It's not cheap, but I think it is worth the price (about $15 per cat). I only have two cats, so it isn't bad for me. I have a friend with multiple cats and she gets a dog sized dose of FrontLine and splits it weight-wise between the cats, apparently it's the same stuff. I've also heard very good things about diatomaceous earth. I'm actually about to use it on my yard because of the chiggers and mosquitos. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Are you sure it's the same stuff for cats and dogs? I have never heard of splitting it - could be bad! Have you compared the ingredients and their amounts? My vet refuses to do revolution - he says it's dangerous because there have been many incidents of cats convulsing - too many things in it all at one time! Too bad, it's a Pfizer product! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor I've always had great luck with Revolution, if you need something new. It's not cheap, but I think it is worth the price (about $15 per cat). I only have two cats, so it isn't bad for me. I have a friend with multiple cats and she gets a dog sized dose of FrontLine and splits it weight-wise between the cats, apparently it's the same stuff. I've also heard very good things about diatomaceous earth. I'm actually about to use it on my yard because of the chiggers and mosquitos. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I wouldn't put Sevin Dust on my plants. There's no way I would put it on my cats. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 1:29 PM Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We have our property sprayed for ticks and have no problems, so far, knock on wood! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Ticks have been horrible this year, I'll do a little research to see if there are any solutions. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:21 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: On the same sort of subject: I had a feral contract babesiosis (I think) from a tick in December. It was a budget breaker. Luckily, Red recovered. He spent a lot of time at the vets' and a lot more confined but looks wonderful. Ticks are all over the place and I am getting one or two off of me daily. The ferals can't be treated individually. Any ideas would be appreciated. On May 31, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Natalie wrote: I have never heard of it, but what I have just read on several sites, Sevin powder sounds very dangerous and is definitely poisonous! Diatomaceous earth is not, it's just an irritant when inhaled. One can also use the food grade diatomaceous earth to control worms in cats by mixing it into the food once in a while. How to Kill Fleas With Sevin Killing flea populations is easy with Sevin Dust. This product works on a variety of insects and is very effective in controlling fleas. The active ingredient in Sevin Dust is carbaryl, an insecticide that kills over one hundred insect species. Sevin Dust can be sprinkled in the yard on your lawn, and also on fruit and vegetable bearing trees and plants as well as shade trees, bushes and ornamental type plants. Some people put Sevin Dust on window sills to keep fleas from coming inside their homes. Sevin Dust is a highly poisonous product so care must be taken when handling it. It is not recommended that you use Sevin Dust on your pets, even though some people do. Difficulty:EasyInstructions Things You'll Need Sevin Dust Gloves Mask Goggles Shaker bottle 1 Read the instructions and warnings on the product packaging. Sevin Dust is a poison. While it has been approved for use, you do not want the dust on your skin or in your eyes. More importantly, it is easy to inhale Sevin Dust as the powder is very fine. Wear a mask while working with this product. 2 Decide what areas you want to treat. Because Sevin Dust is so versatile, you can sprinkle it anywhere in your yard. The caution is that Sevin Dust is a wide spectrum insecticide, meaning it kills many different types of insects. While you may not like fleas in your yard, other insects are beneficial. Insects are killed when they ingest it, so put Sevin only in the places where you know the fleas are, and out of places that beneficial insects such as lady bugs inhabit. 3 Sprinkle Sevin Dust on the areas you wish to treat. Put it into your shaker bottle. Now shake the Sevin Dust on the areas you want treated. If you have fleas coming into your home, treat the perimeter of your home by sprinkling Sevin Dust where your home's foundation and ground meet. Place Sevin Dust at the base of any doorways, being careful not to get it inside the door frame. Lastly, sprinkle Sevin Dust on your lawn. 4 Wash your hands thoroughly with warm water and soap when you are finished. Also discard your mask, or if it is plastic, rinse it off. Change clothes and put your used clothing into the washing machine. Tips Warnings Use a container that has a shaker on top. The product is very fine, like talcum powder, so a shaker enables you to put Sevin Dust exactly where it is needed. Sevin Dust is a poison. Use with caution and be careful not to inhale the dust. If by accident you ingest Sevin Dust or get it in your eyes, contact a physician immediately. Read more: How to Kill Fleas With Sevin | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4449090_kill-fleas-sevin.html#ixzz1Nxgaamtd -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Sprayed with what? I live on a farm and can't do it all but can do the area used. Same with the area of the ferals. On May 31, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Natalie wrote: We have our property sprayed for ticks and have no problems, so far, knock on wood! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Ticks have been horrible this year, I'll do a little research to see if there are any solutions. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:21 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: On the same sort of subject: I had a feral contract babesiosis (I think) from a tick in December. It was a budget breaker. Luckily, Red recovered. He spent a lot of time at the vets' and a lot more confined but looks wonderful. Ticks are all over the place and I am getting one or two off of me daily. The ferals can't be treated individually. Any ideas would be appreciated. On May 31, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Natalie wrote: I have never heard of it, but what I have just read on several sites, Sevin powder sounds very dangerous and is definitely poisonous! Diatomaceous earth is not, it's just an irritant when inhaled. One can also use the food grade diatomaceous earth to control worms in cats by mixing it into the food once in a while. How to Kill Fleas With Sevin Killing flea populations is easy with Sevin Dust. This product works on a variety of insects and is very effective in controlling fleas. The active ingredient in Sevin Dust is carbaryl, an insecticide that kills over one hundred insect species. Sevin Dust can be sprinkled in the yard on your lawn, and also on fruit and vegetable bearing trees and plants as well as shade trees, bushes and ornamental type plants. Some people put Sevin Dust on window sills to keep fleas from coming inside their homes. Sevin Dust is a highly poisonous product so care must be taken when handling it. It is not recommended that you use Sevin Dust on your pets, even though some people do. Difficulty:EasyInstructions Things You'll Need Sevin Dust Gloves Mask Goggles Shaker bottle 1 Read the instructions and warnings on the product packaging. Sevin Dust is a poison. While it has been approved for use, you do not want the dust on your skin or in your eyes. More importantly, it is easy to inhale Sevin Dust as the powder is very fine. Wear a mask while working with this product. 2 Decide what areas you want to treat. Because Sevin Dust is so versatile, you can sprinkle it anywhere in your yard. The caution is that Sevin Dust is a wide spectrum insecticide, meaning it kills many different types of insects. While you may not like fleas in your yard, other insects are beneficial. Insects are killed when they ingest it, so put Sevin only in the places where you know the fleas are, and out of places that beneficial insects such as lady bugs inhabit. 3 Sprinkle Sevin Dust on the areas you wish to treat. Put it into your shaker bottle. Now shake the Sevin Dust on the areas you want treated. If you have fleas coming into your home, treat the perimeter of your home by sprinkling Sevin Dust where your home's foundation and ground meet. Place Sevin Dust at the base of any doorways, being careful not to get it inside the door frame. Lastly, sprinkle Sevin Dust on your lawn. 4 Wash your hands thoroughly with warm water and soap when you are finished. Also discard your mask, or if it is plastic, rinse it off. Change clothes and put your used clothing into the washing machine. Tips Warnings Use a container that has a shaker on top. The product is very fine, like talcum powder, so a shaker enables you to put Sevin Dust exactly where it is needed. Sevin Dust is a poison. Use with caution and be careful not to inhale the dust. If by accident you ingest Sevin Dust or get it in your eyes, contact a physician immediately. Read more: How to Kill Fleas With Sevin | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4449090_kill-fleas-sevin.html#ixzz1Nxgaamtd -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie
[Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just discussing it with my feline asthma group. Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is saying all these chemicals for yards say don't get on skin, don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's coats. It's very very very dusty so you definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it. I am hesistant about using it in the house because it is so so dusty. That's why I went with the borax inside in the carpets. I did put the diatomaceous earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The DE is the consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like it. I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in the house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked them when they come in from outside. They are still coming in with fleas but I don't think it is as many. The DE doesn't kill the fleas right away either. It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts cutting down the flea population. If anyone puts it on their cat I'll just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling. Still better than fleas if you ask me. Of course the cats are going to clean themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to get the food grade stuff. They use it in other forms, like in swimming pools, and it's very toxic. I haven't put the DE in my cats' food yet but a woman in my feline asthma group swears by it and she uses it and puts it in her cats' food and has for years and says they always test negative for worms. She puts it in her coffee and says she can see differences since she started using it. Well, just thought I'd share the things I'm trying. I'm still putting Revolution on the cats because I've got a lot of it but if I don't start seeing a difference soon I'll probably switch to either Frontline Plus or Advantage. Nothing has made a big difference so far, except the borax and the vaccuming, but I think that's because there are so many fleas outside that every time the cats go out they pick up 100
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I don't know what it is, I can ask the tree an...it's tickicide, I guess. He does it around the house and perimeter. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Sprayed with what? I live on a farm and can't do it all but can do the area used. Same with the area of the ferals. On May 31, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Natalie wrote: We have our property sprayed for ticks and have no problems, so far, knock on wood! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Ticks have been horrible this year, I'll do a little research to see if there are any solutions. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:21 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: On the same sort of subject: I had a feral contract babesiosis (I think) from a tick in December. It was a budget breaker. Luckily, Red recovered. He spent a lot of time at the vets' and a lot more confined but looks wonderful. Ticks are all over the place and I am getting one or two off of me daily. The ferals can't be treated individually. Any ideas would be appreciated. On May 31, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Natalie wrote: I have never heard of it, but what I have just read on several sites, Sevin powder sounds very dangerous and is definitely poisonous! Diatomaceous earth is not, it's just an irritant when inhaled. One can also use the food grade diatomaceous earth to control worms in cats by mixing it into the food once in a while. How to Kill Fleas With Sevin Killing flea populations is easy with Sevin Dust. This product works on a variety of insects and is very effective in controlling fleas. The active ingredient in Sevin Dust is carbaryl, an insecticide that kills over one hundred insect species. Sevin Dust can be sprinkled in the yard on your lawn, and also on fruit and vegetable bearing trees and plants as well as shade trees, bushes and ornamental type plants. Some people put Sevin Dust on window sills to keep fleas from coming inside their homes. Sevin Dust is a highly poisonous product so care must be taken when handling it. It is not recommended that you use Sevin Dust on your pets, even though some people do. Difficulty:EasyInstructions Things You'll Need Sevin Dust Gloves Mask Goggles Shaker bottle 1 Read the instructions and warnings on the product packaging. Sevin Dust is a poison. While it has been approved for use, you do not want the dust on your skin or in your eyes. More importantly, it is easy to inhale Sevin Dust as the powder is very fine. Wear a mask while working with this product. 2 Decide what areas you want to treat. Because Sevin Dust is so versatile, you can sprinkle it anywhere in your yard. The caution is that Sevin Dust is a wide spectrum insecticide, meaning it kills many different types of insects. While you may not like fleas in your yard, other insects are beneficial. Insects are killed when they ingest it, so put Sevin only in the places where you know the fleas are, and out of places that beneficial insects such as lady bugs inhabit. 3 Sprinkle Sevin Dust on the areas you wish to treat. Put it into your shaker bottle. Now shake the Sevin Dust on the areas you want treated. If you have fleas coming into your home, treat the perimeter of your home by sprinkling Sevin Dust where your home's foundation and ground meet. Place Sevin Dust at the base of any doorways, being careful not to get it inside the door frame. Lastly, sprinkle Sevin Dust on your lawn. 4 Wash your hands thoroughly with warm water and soap when you are finished. Also discard your mask, or if it is plastic, rinse it off. Change clothes and put your used clothing into the washing machine. Tips Warnings Use a container that has a shaker on top. The product is very fine, like talcum powder, so a shaker enables you to put Sevin Dust exactly where it is needed. Sevin Dust is a poison. Use with caution and be careful not to inhale the dust. If by accident you ingest Sevin Dust or get it in your eyes, contact a physician immediately. Read more: How to Kill Fleas With Sevin | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4449090_kill-fleas-sevin.html#ixzz1Nxgaamtd -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need
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I have friends who split doses of various tick/flea stuff regularly. They say they get a more precise dose given the range on the pre- measured packages. I don't know. I can't get either on the ferals and they really need something. My cats are basically indoor (carriage rides and unauthorized walk-abouts) and the dog is as indoor as a dog can be and still have fun. On May 31, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Maureen Olvey wrote: Thanks Sally. That is very helpful info. I didn't know you could split up Advantage. Awesome, I'll give it a shot too. If I didn't have a lot of cats I wouldn't do the splitting up thing. I would feel safer just buying the pre-measured doses, I always did it that way when I had just two dogs, but now I've got so many cats, it's my foster cats and my own cats that were actually fosters at one time that never got adopted, that I'd go broke just on flea stuff if not for being able to split the stuff up. A lady at the vet's office did the breakdown for me so I felt better about it since she'd been doing it for a while. Are ticks mostly around trees and stuff? I don't have trees but a few shrubs and I haven't had tick problems (knock on wood). Not at home anyway. Where I feed some ferals is in a wooded area and I always seem to bring a couple home with me every few weeks. Ticks that is. Brought home several dumped tame cats and kittens from there too! Thanks again for your comments. Maureen and her clowder of more than 10 cats. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:49:11 -0400 From: putty...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Chickens will eat ticks, but if a big farm it probably is not practical. I am not making any real recommendations,just commenting. I am in the horticulture field where chemicals are used for insect and disease control, it is always best to rotate products so you do not develop resistance to the chemical being used. An example would be using Frontline one month and next month use Advantage. You would not even have to be every month maybe use one for two months etc. Just a note about splitting it up They products are the same ingredients and are in the same concentration in both the dog and cat versions. Dosing in is done according to weight in dogs and cats. I am not a vet and I am not recommending anyone do this if they are not certain. Also cats are more sensitive to chemicals and some pesticides for use on dogs cannot be used on cats. Be safe not sorry. :-) Now I am not going to say Sevin is safe for use on pets but in the old days it is what the vet recommended for fleas and yes we used it on the cats. Also I did not use gloves or anything like that because it was considered very safe. You had to be careful not to get on flowering plants as it was deadly for bees. Fleas became resistant to it. We used 5% dust not the 10%. For plants I do not do much spraying because people we spray too much. The ticks have been bad the past two years. I really considered some chickens myself, but I worry about predators killing them. As for Pet Armor Plus, it sounds like the patent on Frontline has run out and that means we can get generics. I plan to buy it next time I need it but I do have Frontline I bought last year for the cats. I split it up with a syringe. I have 10 cats and get the big dog size, I have also have done that with Advantage and Revolution. My Two cents. Sally and her 10 kitties ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first about adjusting the dosage. Cindy Angel Jackpot From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just discussing it with my feline asthma group. Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is saying all these chemicals for yards say don't get on skin, don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's coats. It's very very very dusty so you definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it. I am hesistant about using it in the house because it is so so dusty. That's why I went with the borax inside in the carpets. I did put the diatomaceous earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The DE is the consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like it. I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in the house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked them when they come in from outside. They are still coming in with fleas but I don't think it is as many. The DE doesn't kill the fleas right away either. It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts cutting down the flea population. If anyone puts it on their cat I'll just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling. Still better than fleas if you ask me. Of course the cats are going to clean themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to get the food grade stuff. They use it in other forms, like in swimming pools, and it's very toxic. I haven't put the DE in my cats' food yet but a woman in my feline asthma group swears by it and she uses it and puts it in her cats' food and has for years and says they always test negative for worms. She puts it in her coffee and says she can see differences since she started using it.
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
The Revolution that I have is 15mg for puppies or kittens 5 lbs or less. It works quick and is effective. However, one of my cats loses his fur at the site of application so I have discontinued it. It did work well enough that he nor the house has fleas. Lynda - Original Message - From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first about adjusting the dosage. Cindy Angel Jackpot From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just discussing it with my feline asthma group. Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is saying all these chemicals for yards say don't get on skin, don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's coats. It's very very very dusty so you definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it. I am hesistant about using it in the house because it is so so dusty. That's why I went with the borax inside in the carpets. I did put the diatomaceous earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The DE is the consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like it. I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in the house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked them when they come in from outside. They are still coming in with fleas but I don't think it is as many. The DE doesn't kill the fleas right away either. It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts cutting down the flea population. If anyone puts it on their cat I'll just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling. Still better than fleas if you ask me. Of course the cats are going to clean themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
Many dog products are extremely dangerous for cats, but at least the last time that I ordered, Revolution used the same formula for both dogs and cats. I have used the large dog tube many times on my cats. Like Lynda, I have a couple of cats that lose their fur at the application site, so I usually don't give it to them. The Revolution website claims that hair loss is due to the cat over grooming the area, which is baloney, IMHO, as I place it in a pretty difficult to reach spot on the neck, and I have never seen them or any other cat licking those spots. It looks more like a crusted over burn to me. Beth N. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: The Revolution that I have is 15mg for puppies or kittens 5 lbs or less. It works quick and is effective. However, one of my cats loses his fur at the site of application so I have discontinued it. It did work well enough that he nor the house has fleas. Lynda - Original Message - From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first about adjusting the dosage. Cindy Angel Jackpot ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
