Re: [Felvtalk] facebook or twitter?
Great idea! Would help to educate people too. From: giordano.d...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:41:38 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] facebook or twitter? Have you thought about getting on facebook or twitter? I think so many people on there would appreciate easy access to this amazing group of very educated and passionate group of people. There is nothing there I have found that even comes close to this group/site/list. * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
If a cat is to be relinquished to any organization please do remember to ask questions on funding, nonprofit status, how many cats they have, how long they live, do they separate FIV from FeLV, do they medicate, etc or this cat may end up in such a good situation where a bathroom is preferred. Good intentions are great but follow up with questions and an actual visit in person to the organization is important or what is the point. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
I have used a vaporizer in a small bedroom with kitty (it did help!) and also heard some people putting congested kitties in bathroom and running shower till hot and steamy. Anita ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
I totally understand feeling guilty - been there. Sometimes even when your head knows it isn't your fault but your heart says differently. Please do not beat yourself up over it - it is not your fault. Your love for Bridget (and your other cats) is evident in your email. She and they were very lucky to have you - and I know you feel lucky that you had them. I am very sorry for your losses. Anita _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tora has died
I am so sorry for your loss. Anita _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Respectfully, I disagree. Quoting from this article, http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display.php?PageID=157 Some caretakers believe that placing cats that initially test positive for either FIV, FeLV or both, together is a viable option. It is important to keep in mind that the cats may be in the process of fighting off a virus. If one makes the decision to test, it is important to follow the AAFP testing guidelines and re-test. Even if a cat happens to be FIV+, Neighborhood Cats founder Bryan Kortis says An FIV cat especially should not be around FeLVs, because an FIV cat could lead a very long life around other, non-FIV cats. But putting them around FeLV positives means they'll catch that virus too, being immune-compromised, and die early. *** And vaccinating already immune compromised cats? Hmm, it doesn't seem like such a good idea. We must do what is morally and ethically right, rather than what is easy. From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:30:06 -0400 To: rchestert...@verizon.net CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary fyi, there is no evidence that FIVs are any less able to throw off FeLV than are other cats--in fact, FIVs tend to be the healthiest populations in all sanctuary settings. while it might not be the optimum arrangement, until there are more places who are willing to take positive of both sorts in, it beats the alternative of just killing one or the other group. i don't know if best little cat house vaccinates their FIVs against FeLV, but if they do, that makes problems almost non-existent. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I disagree on a few points. The article on the Castaway Critters site is not that old - perhaps 3 or 4 years at most. I have spoken via email with Dr. Levy on several occasions - in fact, in late 2008, regarding this very issue. Some recent info from Dr. Levy and link to her info - also while this is specifically regarding ferals it can certainly be applied to pet cats as well From Dr. Julie Levy on mixing cats: The first part of your question is fairly easy. If you are planning to confine cats for the rest of their lives in a sanctuary, I think they should be tested and segregated based on their infection status. Although transmission among adult cats that do not fight is relatively low, it is not zero. The risk of transmission is higher among cats that are housed in large groups and that are under physical or psychological stress, which might be expected to occur when translocating cats to a sanctuary. In most cases, sanctuaries quickly fill up to the holding capacity and then the sanctuary is virtually closed to new admissions. It would be more difficult to care for the cats over many years if infectious diseases are circulating among them. An excellent model for a feral cat sanctuary is at Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (WildCats Village, buttons #10 and #11 at http://www.bestfriends.com/atthesanctuary/animals/cats.cfm). All cats are affected by the stress of close confinement with large numbers of other cats, because that is not a natural environment for the species. Cats with FeLV and FIV are more susceptible to the adverse effects of this stress than uninfected cats. We see this commonly when infected cats come to TNR looking very healthy and then deteriorate when they are confined in sanctuaries or shelters. Cats with FIV generally are expected to live for many years, often into old age. Cats with FeLV may not survive as long but often thrive in a supportive environment. (from the above - cats with FIV are expected to live long - so that is a big reason to ask any sanctuary how long the cats who are FIV positive are living once they are accepted into the sanctuary). Stress of bringing a feral cat a new environment with many other cats is detrimental to health http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/college/departments/sacs/facultystaff/julielevy.html _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Best thing to do is ask how long cats live once they go to a sanctuary, any sanctuary and if they are medicated or vaccinated at all. If they have a limit of number of cats they take in also and how they are funded. And of course, visit. Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:51:58 -0400 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org CC: rchestert...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary I just had a young adult male test FIV+, weak FELV+, and about 45 days later FELV negative, confirmed on IFA. On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:30 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.comwrote: fyi, there is no evidence that FIVs are any less able to throw off FeLV than are other cats--in fact, FIVs tend to be the healthiest populations in all sanctuary settings. while it might not be the optimum arrangement, until there are more places who are willing to take positive of both sorts in, it beats the alternative of just killing one or the other group. i don't know if best little cat house vaccinates their FIVs against FeLV, but if they do, that makes problems almost non-existent. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Maybe it is not such a bad idea if checking out a sanctuary to ask how long the cats typically live. As well as how they are funded and what happens to the cats should something happen to them, etc. _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I wasn't following this string but just so you know, unless things have changed...this sanctuary does not separate FeLV positive from FIV positive cats. Also, if at all possible, it is best for kitty to live in a home and not be exposed to so many other cats with illnesses. He or she will live a lot longer. Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:26:35 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA? On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for free when there is room. Regards. C ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Wouldn't it depend on quality of life? Any sanctuary should be checked out prior with a personal visit and some questions. Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:09:33 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other cat--double-positives will often end up testing positive only for FIV after living in a FeLV environment. remember that most cats who end up in sanctuary settings are NOT up for adoption--if they were considered adoptable, and rescues or shelters were willing to try to find them homes, they wouldn't be going to sanctuaries. while some sanctuaries do have active adoption programs, many do not, for very good reasons: they have to spend their time and money taking care of unwanted, undesirable, unadoptable cats. folks who are willing to adopt FIVs and FeLVs are far more willing, also, to be--or equally willing to be--educable about the facts re: the two viruses, and understand that living with FeLVs in order to live doesn't mean you're gonna BE one of the them. which is not a blanket endorsement of the practice, but if we truly believe what we're saying, and what the research is showing us, we have to carry it out further--it'd be great if there were an FIV/FeLV sanctuary in every town, with a separate room for each population, but it ain't happening, and these cats do NOT deserve to die for lack of space. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
Respectfully Patrica, I could not agree less. A positive result does not mean death is imminent. A healthy cat can suddenly become ill - just like people - does that mean that cat should be euthanized? This is a what if scenario. You have done marvelous things in placing all of those cats. I think the problem is that we need massive spay/neuter programs - targeting pets of low income individuals and feral cats. Also shelters should not accept feral cats at all as they will simply be euthanized there. Instead, Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is the answer - the only proven method. Pet cats of low income who cannot afford spay/neuter often roam and give birth to feral cats who supply an incredible amount of kittens to rescues and shelters. Spay/neuter itself is the one thing that does the most to reduce the occurence of these viruses (FIV and Felv). Best wishes, Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PA Visit http://www.alleycat.org and http://www.neighborhoodcats.org for info on humane control of free roaming cats Visit http://www.pawsofpa.org for information on spay/neuter clinics and resources in south-central PA Join the Yahoo! Group for feral free roaming cats http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feralcatsinsouthcentralpa/ To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:24:35 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters With respect to the general practice of euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters, having fostered many cats from a big city shelter that of course was underfunded and understaffed, I can say that in my city it is impossible to find foster homes, never mind adoptive homes, for all that test positive. Very young kittens cannot be tested reliably and of course, the need for foster homes for the littlest babies is great. When fosterers finally test those kittens and find out that one or more is positive, there are really only a couple of options. That home can keep the kitten sequestered if possible for retesting when older or take it back to be euthanized. Then what happens if the kitten retests positive? Or what about the older cat that is infected shortly before it gets into the shelter and tests negative when going to a foster home but if actually carrying the virus? In my case, I ended up with 3 positive one year olds along with my adult cats who are vaccinated. I have decided to no longer foster any other cats because, outside of the logistics of separating which would be too hard in my situation, I don't want to introduce a new stressor in the house that might trigger the FELV to become active in these positive ones. My answer is to care for these positives for the rest of their lives. However, I fostered and found adoptive homes for 100 kittens and cats in the last two years but now, because I am hospicing these 3 cats, it is fair to say that a good number of cats will die in the next two years as the kill rate is significant here. It is a really painful fact that I could save the lives of many more than three cats if I put these FELV+ cats down. Therefore, because healthy happy well adjusted wonderful pet cats are put down every single day of the year in my city and probably most other big cities, I think that a policy of euthanizing cats that test positive for an incurable illness before euthanizing healthy adoptable cats makes sense. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
Do they hold and re-test? Cats with FIV can live a normal lifespan. Ethically, killing cats who test initially positive or even confirmed positive but who are not suffering is wrong on so many levels. Maybe they need to look up the definition of euthanasia. We had a Cat Management Forum last September and a volunteer took some pretty good notes from Dr. Christine Wilford of the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project in Washington State - check it out here: http://www.pawsofpa.org/new/join_the_team.php?p=72 And the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project website here: http://www.feralcatproject.org/ Any reasonable person/people should be willing to listen to the most reputable veterinary scientists on this subject - not only does it include Dr. Wilford but Dr. Julie Levy - whose articles are referenced in Dr. Wilford's presentation. Dr. Julie Levy has a site here: http://www.ufsheltermedicine.com/meetTeam_Levy.html She runs Operation Catnip at the University of Florida at Gainesville. You can do a Google search on the subjects or even contact the veterinarians and ask their advice to medical information. Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PA Visit http://www.alleycat.org and http://www.neighborhoodcats.org for info on humane control of free roaming cats Visit http://www.pawsofpa.org for information on spay/neuter clinics and resources in south-central PA Join the Yahoo! Group for feral free roaming cats http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feralcatsinsouthcentralpa/ _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone
I am so sorry Laura for your losses - I know your heart is breaking. AnitaEvery year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PAVisit http://www.alleycat.org for information on humane control of the feral and stray cat populationVisit http://www.cpaa.info for information on life-saving programs and organizations in Mid-Central PA Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:32:24 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to put him down. He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked out at the vet next week. I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good past couple of weeks for me. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Introducing Sissy and Rocket
You could also check out Pets 911 - lists rescues and their services, including spay/neuter, TNR, etc. http://www.pets911.com/index.php Or phone toll free 1-888-PETS-911 Best wishes, Anita From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Introducing Sissy and RocketDate: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:51:54 -0500Oops - not reading my email in sequence, sorry. Well, hope you find something a lot less than $100 per. gloria On Apr 3, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Pat Kachur wrote: Does Spay USA have a branch in your state? In Georgia (Spay Georgia), one can purchase certificates which allow a huge discount at participating vets. They send a list of those vets when they send your certificates. - Original Message - From: Sharyl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Introducing Sissy and Rocket Thanks Gloria. So far it looks like the best I'm going to be able to do on the neutering is $100. There is a chance the Tidewater SPCA Neuter Scooter will come over to the Eastern Shore and I could save $25. I can afford to care for the 2 I have rescued. I'll have to work on colony one cat at a time as my budget allows. I am trying to recruit local sponsors to help with the cost. Local SPCA doesn't believe in TNR for ferals. I just don't want to have to tell the vet anything when I bring in a colony kitty. Sharyl Sissy and RocketGloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's wonderful that you're doing this. Would be nice if you could find a low-cost spay neuter clinic, or a free service, to help fund the neutering. RE your question about telling the vet, I don't know. If 2 are positive, still doesn't mean all the others are, although of course there's a chance. Any vet should be aware that if the kitty hasn't been tested, there's a potential for FELV or FIV. Neutering is the key to preventing the spread of this, as I understand. Least my take on it. Hope you find a good option for low cost or free neutering. Gloria On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Sharyl wrote: I had been feeding a group of dumpster 8 kittens and ended up rescuing 2, Sissy and Rocket, when they were about 12 weeks old. On their 1st vet visit both tested FeLV+. I will have both retested the end of April to see if they are still positive. I have them quarantined in my garage. They are eating Iams canned kitten food supplemented with a Super B Complex, Lactoferrin and DMG. So far they are responding well and seem very healthy. Both have had their kitten shots and been wormed. If they stay positive I will either find a forever home for them or build an enclosure onto the garage for them. I have 2 indoor kitties and one has CRF so am concerned about bringing them into the house. My questions concern the rest of the colony which includes at least 4 adults. I can not take all of them in. My plan had been to TNR the colony (trap/neuter/release). The vet is recommending euthanizing the entire colony if these 2 stay positive. I am not sure where I will be able to get then neutered if they are positive. And I can not trap them just to have them euthanized. That may be the best thing to do but I just can't do it. Is there any info on how to deal with a FeLV+ feral colony? Any advise on how to get them neutered? Am I obligated to tell the vet about the potential for FeLV when having them neutered? Sharyl Sissy and Rocket ES of VA You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008
OT: Kidney Stones
Hi everyone, I have a cat named Sylvester (but no Tweety Bird) who has kidney stones. I just had him to the vet yesterday == he had been walking funny so I thought he had hurt his leg. Boy was I wrong! Vet thought he was walking funny too and initially thought renal failure, diabetes, or thyroid but his bloodwork came back okay although his something globulin level was a little high at 5.7 (normal range 2.3-5.3). After asking if I had any cats with FIP - which I do not although I have a very fat cat who gained a lot of weight after being spayed (now I am wondering if she has FIP!). I never had a cat with FIP. He said was not too concerned with it, to keep an eye on him, make sure he has a water fountain (which I will set up tonight) and canned food and he pees at least 3-4x a day lemon sized pee balls. I asked if there was a way to get rid of the stones but he said beyond taking Sylvester to University of PA to have it out - he didn't think it was a good option. He just may be in pain from the stones. Anyways, I guess I am just worried - my cat Phoebe who was 11 and looked like a little Ewok (from Star Wars) was euthanized last April due to a blocked kidney stone. I still see her little face and hear her meow and picture her with her little paws sitting on top of me and kneading. I feed Chicken Soup canned though I may go back to EVO, with the gas being so expensive that food has gone up so much! If anyone has similar experiences or ideas about feeding, please let me know. I have 21 cats so it is just hard to do the right thing with so many and I know that is my fault. I feel sometimes I need rescued but that is being selfish and only when overwhelmed do I feel that way until I look at their little furry faces and beautiful eyes! Best wishes, Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PAVisit http://www.alleycat.org for information on humane control of the feral and stray cat populationVisit http://www.cpaa.info for information on life-saving programs and organizations in Mid-Central PA Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:54:02 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: New FIV/FeLV Treatment As I recall someone in this group or the FIV group was in a study using this drug called T Cyte at that time. This company bought them out and immediately the drug cost was prohibited to where the person was not able to continue or start use of it. I understand it holds promise and there are studies to support this. However a pretty broad claim being made by imulan. On the other hand if it helps and you can afford it then I say it's worth a try. Sally On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 1:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.imulan.com/ Anyone familiar or know about this? TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUETerrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/ Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.-- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up.http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 _ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164ocid=T003MSN51N1653A
RE: Introducing Sissy and Rocket
National Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) groups -- including Alley Cat Allies www.alleycat.org -- and veterinary scientist Dr Julie Levy's group Operation Catnip in Gainesville FL do not recommend testing feral cats -- spaying/neutering and returning to colony site is the best prevention of any illness. It does not make sense to euthanize cats on the premise that they may get ill. A perfectly healthy feral cat may get hit by a car -- so does that mean we should just euthanize all feral cats just in case? Check out: http://sacs.vetmed.ufl.edu/catnip/manual,%20internal%20%20external%20hyps.htm#c1_9 http://www.feralcat.com/tpolicy.html http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=157 I do not believe you have to tell a vet anything about the status of the 2 cats from the colony -- you are paying them to do a service, spay and neuter the remaining cats of the colony. Of course, if the cats are obviously ill -- that is a different story. Best wishes, Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PAVisit http://www.alleycat.org for information on humane control of the feral and stray cat populationVisit http://www.cpaa.info for information on life-saving programs and organizations in Mid-Central PA Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:23:39 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Introducing Sissy and RocketTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I had been feeding a group of dumpster 8 kittens and ended up rescuing 2, Sissy and Rocket, when they were about 12 weeks old. On their 1st vet visit both tested FeLV+. I will have both retested the end of April to see if they are still positive. I have them quarantined in my garage. They are eating Iams canned kitten food supplemented with a Super B Complex, Lactoferrin and DMG. So far they are responding well and seem very healthy. Both have had their kitten shots and been wormed. If they stay positive I will either find a forever home for them or build an enclosure onto the garage for them. I have 2 indoor kitties and one has CRF so am concerned about bringing them into the house. My questions concern the rest of the colony which includes at least 4 adults. I can not take all of them in. My plan had been to TNR the colony (trap/neuter/release). The vet is recommending euthanizing the entire colony if these 2 stay positive. I am not sure where I will be able to get then neutered if they are positive. And I can not trap them just to have them euthanized. That may be the best thing to do but I just can't do it. Is there any info on how to deal with a FeLV+ feral colony? Any advise on how to get them neutered? Am I obligated to tell the vet about the potential for FeLV when having them neutered? Sharyl Sissy and Rocket ES of VA You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. _ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008
RE: BooBoo left us
Boo may have been with you for a short time but he touched your lives in a very special way. My heart cries with you. Please accept my sympathy. AnitaEvery year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PAVisit http://www.alleycat.org for information on humane control of the feral and stray cat populationVisit http://www.cpaa.info for information on life-saving programs and organizations in Mid-Central PA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BooBoo left usDate: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:04:15 -0500 We lost our precious baby tonight. He developed difficulty breathing and we rushed him to the emergency clinic. He was dehydrated and had just had his lungs aspirated Friday. The vet recently experienced the same situation with his Himilayan, co-incidentally, though I sometimes think they make stuff up to identify with your pain. I held his little face in my hand and petted him as did Bob and he slipped away almost immediately. I don't think I've cried this much in my life, Bob too. At this moment I can't imagine ever being happy again. Sounds stupid but BooBoo conveyed to me this evening it was time to go and he thanked us. He was so very weak he could hardly walk but he was still purring as we pet him even with the damn catheter in. We know this was best for him but the worst for us. Thank you all for being so very supportive. Lynne _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/
RE: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique
So true! This group has helped me immensely and I appreciate it so very much. Anita From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: unsubscribing info for Unusually UniqueDate: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:56:38 -0500 Well, I wish you wouldn't leave Unusually Unique. We've already lost SO many people. I've stuck it out and I just ignore the fights that go on on this site because I still believe in the greater good- that this list serve can provide good and necessary info, despite the recent animosity.-Caroline Subject: unsubscribing info for Unusually UniqueDate: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:44:34 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, see below instructions re unsubscribing etc. (These are sent on the 1st of every month, in case you still have your email -- if you do, you'll be able to click directly to unsubscribe. Otherwise there are contact addresses given below) Asking the list doesn't work because listmembers can't do it for you (otherwise I daresay a few folks would be bouncing back and forth interminably) and as far as I know it's not moderated continuously.At any rate, the info below should do the trick. Kerry M. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:01 AM Subject: felineleukemia.org mailing list memberships reminderThis is a reminder, sent out once a month, about yourfelineleukemia.org mailing list memberships. It includes yoursubscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from alist.You can visit the URLs to change your membership status orconfiguration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style deliveryor disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make suchchanges. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address ofthe list (for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) containingjust the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will besent to you with instructions.If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Unusually UniqueSent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: detailed video of seizure -- for Michael How do I unsubscribe from this Merry-Go-Round? I'm sick of reading about you people slapping at each other. _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. Power up! _ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM
RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS
I'm so sorry! Jingles sounds like a sweet little angel. Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:02:04 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please add Jingles to the CLSTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night. He was fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this week. He was eating and cuddling up with me then. Sat. morning I didn't bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all looked so comfortable that I just left them. Was gone most of the day and when I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him up. His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue comiing out and the eye dripping. The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation. I sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized. I have never ever seen anything like that. Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me. He had gone downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an end, but I sure didn't expect this. He was adopted from a kill shelter by an elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive. Then she died and I've had him about 5 years. Such a sweetheart. _ Messenger Café — open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now. http://cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_AugWLtagline
RE: Genevieve My precious baby is gone
Dear Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss. Love never dies. Anita Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:17:27 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Genevieve My precious baby is gone To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sherry , My heart is breaking for you. I completely understand...I am so sorry for you and your little girl. Love from us here. Glenda --- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen just called and it was worse then she thought,she was very anemic and septic,the felv destroyed her white blood cells and she had nothing to fight with.Jen gave her 12 hours of feeling better.I had a wonderful hour with her this morning,at least I didn't have to see her in agony.I will never forget that beautiful face and personality.I am so sick with heartache right now - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ _ See what you’re getting into…before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507
RE: OT: Houston we have a problem (HELP!)
Wow, I'm having a similar problem with a stray I took in. She was okay for 2 weeks with my crew of 20 cats until I tried trapping some kittens outside (they may have been her's). I had the crate for the kittens (about 6) set up in my spare room, trapped 2 kittens -- got one in the crate then got the 2nd trap into the hallway when the tortie stray jumped on top of the trap and started howling and attacked me! Do you believe I hid in the bathroom, I know silly me! My husband shooed her inside our bedroom and we moved the crate into the garage. Next morning, she attacked my large male cat Sylvester -- my husband said she went after him unrelentlessly and he had to hit her with a bottle to get her off and she bit him. After that, I put her back outside but she wanted back in and silly me couldn't stand it (she also had a cold and I was giving her meds and set up a spay appt). She is now in her cat free (Hah!) downstairs living room. She was in heat several times and was fixed this past Saturday and is on Clavamox (she had lot of blood in her urine but seems to be getting better). She rubs on me in the morning and seems to be sweet but then starts twitching her tail at the same time and tries to get my hand, swats at me, bites -- she didn't break skin until today but it isn't too bad. One time Sylvester ran into the room w/o knowing she was there and boy did she try to get him -- got him out safely before she did anything. Then another time, my sweet 12 yr old kitty Sagusma ran in and there was a standoff but I picked her up and got her out. I am almost afraid of her and am thinking maybe I should have just TNR'd her. I just hate leaving friendly cats out there (tho she is more of a Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde). It is just weird as she sometimes likes to lay on top of me and have me scratch her chin. Then she gets skitzo. Anita Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:33:51 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: OT: Houston we have a problem (HELP!)To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Susan, I would ask the vet about some form of 'kitty prozac'. I'm keeping a cat for a woman who lost her job, and I've had to put him on clonicalm. tonyaSusan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Please read below and let me know if you have any suggestions for this kitty. We have already recommended a veterinary exam, (Dr. Smith, feline expert extraordinaire) in case it's a medical problem. I do not know this kitty, but she was rescued from our local pound after she was confiscated from a rescue group, along w/ 53 other cats. Long story, but I will say that it was all politics and the rescue group was not @ fault. Anyway, she has been in her new home for about 2 months and things seemed to be going fine, until recently. Any suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks! I'm having trouble getting into my address book so I'm attaching this to a previous note from you. Abby is not a happy little girl and I don't know what to do about her. I think she's schizophrenic. In the morning she's a reasonable cat but by night she's a wild thing. She's still making unprovoked attacks on the old cats who are now terrified of her. It's to the point that they won't use their litter boxes because she's lying in wait when they come out. She takes their bowls away from them--doesn't eat the food but won't let them eat. I've resorted to putting her in the guest room alone at night so she doesn't sneak up on Diana ( who sleeps on my pillow) and launch a battle at three in the morning. And more, Abby has attacked me a couple of times in the last two days with claws and teeth. I was barefoot at the time and she shredded the sole of my foot. She can't be petted without fighting back, will not permit picking up, fights brushing, and is generally hostile. No, I won't give her up...she might not survive another transfer. But I've got to find a way to calm her down before she or one of the other girls gets hurt. I've had Siamese all my life and these are not Siamese characteristics. She comes and tells me she's hungry several times a day so I've resorted to giving her small meals at intervals during the day. Since we haven't had storms in several days, she hasn't had the frantic reactions those brought, but she's really a mystery to me. She seems to have no concept of human interaction and resents any attempt at stroking or petting. Any ideas? Thanks, Susan J. DuBose ^..^www.PetGirlsPetsitting.comwww.Tx.SiameseRescue.orgwww.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent _ Recharge--play some free games. Win
RE: My little Sammy went to Heaven
I am so sorry. Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My little Sammy went to HeavenDate: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:04:20 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everyone: I'm so sorry to report that my dear Sammy went to Heaven on Tuesday morning. He had gone into Animal 911 the evening before. He felt quite warm and when I took his temperature it was 106 so off we went. He stayed overnight in the ICU, hydrated, etc., and I knew he was in the right place that night. His WBC count was dismal, his RBC's were dismal, he was very quiet when I picked him up to move him to Berglund for continued care. After discussion with the ICU folks, who felt that the lymphoma once again had the upper hand, I knew it was time to say farewell and I made the decision to have him PTS over at Berglund. We drove the five minutes to Berglund where I was met by his Auntie Head Tech Linda and Auntie Dr. Val. I had picked up a beautiful little baby blanket earlier in the week-- blue and white cotton knit with a small ruffle around the edge, lined in soft white fur, and Sammy was wrapped in that, in my arms. They agreed it was time and I'm pretty sure Sammy did, too. He was so tired for such a little guy, but he wasn't in pain, just so very, very tired. When Val put the sleepy meds into the IV on his wrist he went to sleep IMMEDIATELY. As she added the meds to stop his little heart she said, I love you, Sammy. Linda cut off some of Sammy's beautiful marmalade hair for me and Val put it in a little plastic bag. Linda made sure I got all Sammy's colors, too. I wrapped him back up and held him close and just sat and cried in the exam room, stroking his beautiful little face until it was time to give him away forever. Every so often someone would peek in to say how sorry they were. Linda said she was making a little paw-print disc of Sammy's little paw for me and, of course, I was having him cremated at St. Francis Animal Cemetery. My dad always buried the cats in our back yard but I cremate mine (even the tiny parakeets, who are each in tiny blue-and-white ginger jars). The little plastic bag of fur will fit right in the little St. Francis tin, with a picture of St. Francis on it and a little St. Francis animal tag inside. Poor Sammy, he was so very small--he'd lost a pound over the last twelve days--I could feel him growing cool so fast as I held him, I disliked that so! I've been staying close to home with the other kitties. I think we're all doing okay. The other kitties always knew Sammy was very seriously ill and we were allyuuu===(hello, Charlie has jumped up, purring, to see me and let me hold him tight while I write to you all) doing all we could to help him stay well, but he was overcome. And now we're overcome. I'm sure he was met by that great Big Brother in the sky, my giant kitty and champion kitten-adorer Jack-Jack, who went to Heaven last March before the triplets arrived on July 1st of last year, and all the other cats my parents and I have had over the years. Think of how many kittens and cats will meet us again someday! Thank you all for everything you have given me and how much you have helped me and the kitties, Tee 'n' the Remaining Wildlife (Lilibet Squeekietoy, exemplary kitten-big-sissy, Billi Bi, reluctant, peeved [I'M the baby!] eldest brother, and the 2 Orange Boyz, great big Charlie, AKA Twinkie (he's twinkie-colored and was teenie when he was small), and Teddy Baby Pooma (he was so little--he still is--I told him he was a baby puma to make him feel big and strong). Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation.958 _ Messenger Café — open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now. http://cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_AugWLtagline
RE: OT: Exactly what are my rights here?
Depends on what your shelter's policies are regarding feral cats, usually open admission shelters kill feral cats right away. Check out www.alleycat.org for information on Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) and the humane and viable solution to controlling the feral cat population. Alley Cat Allies and animal welfare advocate Nathan Winograd (www.nokilladvocacycenter.org) recommend shelters not accept feral cats into the shelter since they cannot be adopted and recommend trap-neuter-return. Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 22:18:00 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Exactly what are my rights here? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hello everyone, Several of you here know my story about trapping an orange and white cat , whom I named Marmalade. The cat was trapped this last Sunday night in my personal trap. The cat was then transported to our local shelter by a policeman. When the cat was turned over, he became the property of the county shelter...He was trapped at my friend's house, together we decided to call the officer... The shelter decided Monday morning he was a wildferal cat and told me he was put in with the wild kitties and would have to be put down. They did say they would wait 3-days to see if anyone came forward to claim him. I went in Monday morning to see the kitty and get my trap back...I was told I could not see him. I asked if I could take him to be tested.After some discussion, I was told I could. I made the appt. for that Monday. I was then told I could not test him until Thursday, after the 3-day waiting period. I went to the shelter yesterday morning to visit the kitty. I just wanted to see him , see if he might talk back to me, show some sign of wanting me to work with him. I was told by a worker ,because he was in the wild kitty section, I was not allowed to see him...I was told the reason being they were worried about liability...I tried to understand their point and did not want to be too much of a thorn in their behind, because at least they had given me permission to have the cat tested on Thursday morning. I had an appt. for 9:15 am. The shelter opens at 9:00am. I was using the same vet they use... Last night I was heading down to the shelter after work and had decided to bring up some points about if this kitty tested negative for the FeLV and FIV and I decided to neuter this cat...after all I already had an investment in the cat and if the cat were young...looked under three years old...was there maybe someone who might enjoy the challenge of working with a feral...if indeed this cat was a feral...Things like that...I called my friend on the way home and decided one more day would not hurt that much and at least after the test I'd have one important plus to work with if the cat tested clean...Us cat people do tend to rattle people enough as it is... Well, I got home tonight and there was a message on my phone from the director of our shelter...It was: Hi Glenda, I have some good and bad news for you. If you get this before 7:00pm give me a call @Otherwise call me in the morning...I got the message after 9:00pm. Well guys, nothing like suspense...I hate to jump to conclusions , but I bet they put the cat down...and they will tell me he tested neg. I will be on the computer to tell everyone the rest of the story in the morning... The fact the beginning of the story is a story in itself, should hold everyone until morning...I seriously wonder what the wild cat area is like??? I'd like to know what they do with ferals after they are caught here...? I am going to be talking to feral cat people in other neighboring areas to see what type of programs they have...Thanks for reading this. Glenda Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 _ Messenger Café — open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now. http://cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_AugWLtagline
RE: Kisa is gone :(
I am so sorry for your loss. Even though her life was short, Kisa was well loved and cared for, as was Kodaand am sure they both knew and appreciated you and your compassion. Anita From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kisa is gone :(Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:50:38 -0500 Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after Koda. My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the end. I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she started eating again a week and a half ago. I suppose it was just too much for her to overcome. The anemia never really did improve much. Though her breathing was better, her skin was so pale. The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker. I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't have to go on suffering much longer. I don't think she was in pain, and I sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end. It was just so hard to see her so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago. Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say. She never quite saw her 3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten. She was special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all. Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the words that describe her. She's been sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, and i'm going to miss her warmth so much. If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight. I made a rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave. Now Kisa will join her there. Cassandra _ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club. http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink
RE: CLS for Jet
I am so sorry for your loss of Jet. How lucky she was to have you both -- and I bet you feel pretty lucky to -- to have had her, even though it wasn't as long as you would have liked. What a true gift she was to have in your life. Anita Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:41:30 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: CLS for JetTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I am sorry Tad. I'm glad Jet was with you in her last moments on earth. GinaTad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago June 12, 2007She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here with mefor 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy all the timeshe was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the other cats...She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to tame when jetcame here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where she was tonightwhen I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that signals when life hasleft the body on this earth...I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting like an oldercat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been actingquite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time that she wasn'table to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt comfortable...We all will miss our Jet Cat...Tad and Marie. Visit my Tigger Tales site! Don't pick lemons.See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. _ Live Earth is coming. Learn more about the hottest summer event - only on MSN. http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthwlm
OT - FDA investigating pain killer found in pet food
Here we go...again Full story:http://www.itchmo.com/read/texas-lab-finds-acetaminophen-in-pet-food_20070605ExperTox, a Texas lab, found acetaminophen (a fifth possible contaminant) in at least five samples of pet food that were submitted by pet owners and pet manufacturers. The medication was mostly found with cyanuric acid, and hundreds of other samples that were sent in tested positive for melamine. The contaminants were found in pet foods that have not been recalled.ExperTox said that the highest level of acetaminophen was found in a dog food sample submitted by a pet food manufacturer, but the lab is not identifying the company. The FDA is now investigating the findings from the lab and a FDA spokesperson says that: what's significant is these things are there. They don't belong there. _ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! Check out the New MSN Mobile! http://mobile.msn.com
RE: OT: Neighbor threatens ferals -- good news
I'm sending you much white light for nice animal friendly neighbors! It makes things so much better all the way around. Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:43:28 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: OT: Neighbor threatens ferals -- good newsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I'm thrilled to hear he has had a change of heart. I wonder what turned things around, but really, I don't care. Good vibes that he stays in his present state of mind toward the cats and you. Maybe his wife does have some influence on him. The house next door to me has a for rent sign in the window. I'm past the point of wishing for like-minded people to move in when the houses turn over, I just hope they aren't hostile and that if they do have pets they care for them. Maybe you guys could send some good energy my way?NRosenfeldt, Diane wrote: Great news, Anita. I hope this turns into a total non-situation from now on. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stray Cat AllianceSent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:58 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: OT: Neighbor threatens ferals -- good newsHi everyone, just wanted to give you an update on the neighbor situation. I was out back last night and saw my neighbor and told him I'd take care of any pooh issues and to let me know if he has any other issueshe said no no, that is okay. I have calmed down and am not mad at anyone. They are just animals. My wife saw the cat out back yesterday and it went out of the yardI said they are unowned kitties and are afraid of people and I don't let my cats outside. He said I know I know. His wife popped her head out of the window and said not to worry -- they are animals and that happens everywhere. I said I just want to make sure they are happy, and she said we are happy we are happy. Which is all wonderful! I am still going to keep checking tho and cleaning any poop up -- some animal is still pooping down there. Thank you everyone for your wonderful advice! AnitaEvery year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:24:42 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: OT: Neighbor threatens feralsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org What a jerk! A little poop never hurt, and besides, who knows if it's the cats or not? I would definitely keep an eye out on this guy and I would report his threat to the ASPCA in case anything happens to the kitties. I'll be praying for them. Ginawendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anita,I'm so sorry. That stinks that your new neighbor isbeing a jerk. Saying you're going to kill an animalis very serious and cruel. Is it an option for you tospeak with the wife when he is not home? Maybe shedoesn't know that he did this. Also, could you talkto the ferals the next time you feed them and explainthe situation and tell them that this guys isdangerous. Maybe that would help. If this situationgets more serious, there are options, like calling ashelter to have the ferals trapped and moved tosomeplace safe, or calling the aspca on this guy. Prayers going out that his heart would soften and thatthe kitties stay out of his path. :)Wendy--- Stray Cat Alliancewrote: Do you believe this storyevery day, I feed my front yard and back yard cats (I love in a townhome attached on both sides)..and have done so since we moved into the City in 1998. Last May my elderly neighbor moved out (she was pet friendly and had volunteered at the Humane Society) and new neighbors moved in (no pets). Over the weekend, I was cleaning out my backyard house of straw from winter and the husband neighbor came over and said a cat was pooping in the landing of his basement steps. I said I feed only stray cats and you can't control where they go as you can't control the birds pooping where they want. He said you don't walk in bird poop. But in any case, I said to let me think about the situation as it never happened before. So I went in and got a plastic bag and cleaned up the poop as I didn't want any problems. Funny that noone ever pooped in our landing but ours smells a lot better - not that musty yuck smell. Then that night, in the middle of the night, I realized the one thing that changed was my husband put stone along the only grassy section in the backyard. In the morning, I asked my husband to move the stones as I figured that would probably make it stop if it was indeed a cat/s. Then, the door bell rings and my neighbor wants to speak to my husband. Of course, it was about the cats. My husband said it might not be a cat/s, there are skunks and possums. And just to put some wood out to block the cat/s or animal/s from going down the steps to the landing. Then the neighbor says if it doesn't
RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
I purchased Feliway, spent a lot of money, and it really didn't help. I guess one possible, albeit monetary only, comfort is -- vinegar is way cheaper! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:47:29 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the rescue! www.RevivalAnimal.com has a great price on all Feliway stuff. Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On May 29, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Pam Norman wrote: Anita, that sounds more like spraying to me a direct reaction to the newcomers. Very common. In time hopefully it will decrease. I had to deal with it too for years. My piano was ruined needs total refinishing. But that can be done at some point. I can't cuddle my piano love it feel its warmth against my back in bed on cold winter nights. Stray Cat Alliance wrote: Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita Create the ultimate e-mail address book. Import your contacts to Windows Live Hotmail. Try it! www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/managemail2.html?locale=en-usocid=RMT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_impcont_0507 _ Download Messenger. Start an i’m conversation. Support a cause. Join now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07
RE: Killing cats who pee on RUGS*****
Ever since we added 2 kittens to our household last July (they were initially fosters but due to illness and other issues we ended up keeping them), our cat Stinky (how appropro) has been peeing everywhere. Thank goodness we have only one area rug -- which of course, he does not pee on. He pees on vertical surfaces such as furniture like the stereo stand, walls, in front of the front and basement doors. Ugh. Our house smells like vinegar and the furniture is ruined. My husband keeps saying, we have to get rid of Stinky. I'm like -- I don't think so. We'll just have to deal with it. He is at least 7 years old and hopefully if we ever get to move to a bigger house, it will stop. Anita _ Change is good. See what’s different about Windows Live Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507
OT: Neighbor threatens ferals
Do you believe this storyevery day, I feed my front yard and back yard cats (I love in a townhome attached on both sides)..and have done so since we moved into the City in 1998. Last May my elderly neighbor moved out (she was pet friendly and had volunteered at the Humane Society) and new neighbors moved in (no pets). Over the weekend, I was cleaning out my backyard house of straw from winter and the husband neighbor came over and said a cat was pooping in the landing of his basement steps. I said I feed only stray cats and you can't control where they go as you can't control the birds pooping where they want. He said you don't walk in bird poop. But in any case, I said to let me think about the situation as it never happened before. So I went in and got a plastic bag and cleaned up the poop as I didn't want any problems. Funny that noone ever pooped in our landing but ours smells a lot better - not that musty yuck smell. Then that night, in the middle of the night, I realized the one thing that changed was my husband put stone along the only grassy section in the backyard. In the morning, I asked my husband to move the stones as I figured that would probably make it stop if it was indeed a cat/s. Then, the door bell rings and my neighbor wants to speak to my husband. Of course, it was about the cats. My husband said it might not be a cat/s, there are skunks and possums. And just to put some wood out to block the cat/s or animal/s from going down the steps to the landing. Then the neighbor says if it doesn't stop he's going to kill them! Then my husband said he couldn't do that or he'd go to jail -- and my husband said then he didn't have time to argue about it and came in. Now, I am worried about the kitties! I would love to take still somewhat feral Mom cat (tho she lets me pet her) from the front inside but I have way too many cats and doubt she'd appreciate it. If we ever move, she is definitely coming. I am crossing my fingers and hoping this blows over. Thanks for listening, I know I am rather long winded! Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! _ Download Messenger. Start an i’m conversation. Support a cause. Join now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07
RE: OT: Neighbor threatens ferals
Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions! I did get my husband to write down what the neighbor said to him yesterday -- but it is a good idea to write down everything and dates. I will do my best to muster up niceness when I want to scream and talk to the neighbor. The wife doesn't speak very good English so I don't think she'd be a good option. I really can't trap everybody and relocate...and an enclosure wouldn't work where I live now so I am hoping and praying for a positive resolution for all. Thank you again, will keep you posted. Anita _ Add some color. Personalize your inbox with your favorite colors. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0507
RE: OT: Neighbor threatens ferals
Thanks Susan. I actually do belong to the feral cat group -- great group of people, just like here! For me, it is so much easier telling other people what to do in such situations as this but it is so different for some reason, being in it myself. Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:33:29 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: OT: Neighbor threatens feralsTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone hasn't already suggested it, please join the feral cat group at http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ (3000+ members nationwide).Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you believe this storyevery day, I feed my front yard and back yard cats (I love in a townhome attached on both sides)..and have done so since we moved into the City in 1998. Last May my elderly neighbor moved out (she was pet friendly and had volunteered at the Humane Society) and new neighbors moved in (no pets). Over the weekend, I was cleaning out my backyard house of straw from winter and the husband neighbor came over and said a cat was pooping in the landing of his basement steps. I said I feed only stray cats and you can't control where they go as you can't control the birds pooping where they want. He said you don't walk in bird poop. But in any case, I said to let me think about the situation as it never happened before. So I went in and got a plastic bag and cleaned up the poop as I didn't want any problems. Funny that noone ever pooped in our landing but ours smells a lot better - not that musty yuck smell. Then that night, in the middle of the night, I realized the one thing that changed was my husband put stone along the only grassy section in the backyard. In the morning, I asked my husband to move the stones as I figured that would probably make it stop if it was indeed a cat/s. Then, the door bell rings and my neighbor wants to speak to my husband. Of course, it was about the cats. My husband said it might not be a cat/s, there are skunks and possums. And just to put some wood out to block the cat/s or animal/s from going down the steps to the landing. Then the neighbor says if it doesn't stop he's going to kill them! Then my husband said he couldn't do that or he'd go to jail -- and my husband said then he didn't have time to argue about it and came in. Now, I am worried about the kitties! I would love to take still somewhat feral Mom cat (tho she lets me pet her) from the front inside but I have way too many cats and doubt she'd appreciate it. If we ever move, she is definitely coming. I am crossing my fingers and hoping this blows over. Thanks for listening, I know I am rather long winded! AnitaEvery year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Download Messenger. Start an i’m conversation. Support a cause. Join Now! _ Download Messenger. Start an i’m conversation. Support a cause. Join now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07
RE: article on releasing /not testing for felk in feral cats
Same here...we have a large group here that sends kitties to a hospice but do not euthanize. Felv+ and Fiv+ (no confirmatory tests) are mixed togetherdrives me nuts. Some are asymptomatic. However, no other group offers free TNR surgeries so they do a lot for controlling the populationif not for them, the cats won't be fixed otherwise and will indeed be suffering. http://thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/Dome.htm Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:36:22 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: article on releasing /not testing for felk in feral cats Scream! Shadowcats here is one. They are also the best known feral group in our area by far...which means when they teach TNR to people..they teach it is *unethical* to not kill asymptomatic FELV+ cats... Although they do not euth for FIV and may not even test for it. They *do* euth asymptomatic FELV+ cats. I have had this argument with their director many times...she doesn't like me much..*sigh* www.shadowcats.net On 5/8/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, but there are still TNR groups that not only test, but routinely euth positive cats with FeLV OR FIV... On 5/8/07, janine paton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/info/releasing.htm From Neighborhood Cats. It's well written and helped one of our hard headed vets understand why we don't always want them to test. She actually got it, and said thanks after she read it. Janine -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! _ Add some color. Personalize your inbox with your favorite colors. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0507
RE: Rainbow bridge for Joey
I am so very sorry Kelley. I am sure he appreciated all the love and care you gave him. Anita Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:55:21 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Rainbow bridge for Joey He's gone. I took him to the ER and he went into cardiac arrest. We tried CPR for a short time but the vet did not think he would live long even if we could get him back, so I decided to stop flogging him. I have some leukeran and some prednilosone left, if anyone nees. i will be happy to mail it to you. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://www.firstgiving.com/Joey1 _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
RE: OT- Cheap source of Drontal?
There's a website based in Australia, though the pills may still be expensive. Here it is http://www.psol.com.au/int/index.html You'd have to use the currency converter, they have a link on the website. Anita Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:30:59 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT- Cheap source of Drontal? Does anyone know of one? Good grief that stuff is expensive. Thanks, -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia _ Your friends are close to you. Keep them that way. http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx
RE: OPINIONS
If you go to www.pets911.com and enter the zip code of the location, local rescues will be listed and perhaps one of those can help. Anita Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:01:40 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OPINIONS does anyone know of any places in the Ohio area that help with feral cats? I know of a feral colony of about 15 cats that someone is trying to feed, but it is getting to be too much for them (elderly and limited income). They can not afford to get them fixed so they just keep having kittens. Wondered if anyone knew of a farm or some place nice that would take them. I have 14 of my own and can not take in any more. _ It’s tax season, make sure to follow these few simple tips http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=WLMartagline
RE: OT: Small meltdown
Hi Wendy, I think sometimes we have an extra special connection to our pets -- just like we have an extra special connection with some people -- and we just never ever forget -- how special their life was and is certainly as we still think and feel very strongly about him or her. And that changes us, perhaps makes us better human beings. My special kitty Micco died 9 years ago and I still get into my bouts of crying and in my case, wishing I would have done more or done something differently. I don't understand why some simply slip off peacefully into that good night and others do not, but at least they have the comfort of having someone who cares about them -- a lot more than many have. Anita Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 08:04:33 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Small meltdown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hey guys, Why is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's passing, I can burst into tears after having flashbacks of the night he died? To a logical person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and overdramatic. But the fact remains that when I allow myself to remember what happened with Cricket the night he died, and how horrible it was, it sends me straight into meltdown. I am at work for heaven's sake. Usually, when I think about Cricket, I don't think about that one day in his life. But it seems so unfair that he couldn't have a more peaceful death. I will never forget his suffering, even knowing that he is now at rest. Why do some people's/animal's last days of their lives have to be filled with pain and suffering? I just don't understand it. I think maybe all the recent losses, and sadly there have been many, might be bringing my memories back, but maybe that's a good thing? Maybe we never really fully stop grieving, but every little meltdown we have allows us to heal a little more. Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of understanding of the meaning of life. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL _ It’s tax season, make sure to follow these few simple tips http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=WLMartagline
OT: Andersoon Cooper tonight
He's going to be talking about the pet food recall at 10 pm on CNN. _ It’s tax season, make sure to follow these few simple tips http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=WLMartagline
RE: Good Bye Mama Kitty
I am so very sorry for your loss of Mama Kitty. She sounds like a very special girl and will always remain so in your heart. _ Take a break and play crossword puzzles - FREE! http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_ wlmemailtaglinemarch07
RE: someone who is GOOD at marketing, etc
I am thinking of trying Honest Kitchen Prowl for my cats as soon as I can afford it -- I have a huge crew to feed. Anita From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: someone who is GOOD at marketing, etc Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:10:15 -0500 You may have seen information from Honest Kitchen. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: someone who is GOOD at marketing, etc i did see some flyers at the pet food store friday where you can order home cooked 'people' food for your dogs. i didn't get the company name because i was too busy laughing (not to mention, i saw the flyer on the floor while using the restrooom). the company is serious though. they have very nice color flyers. the food looks just like what the black eyed pea cooks up for it's customers. not sure it's healthy though. vets tell people not to feed their dogs people food. :) wendy --- TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, they have these businesses all over the country for people to get together and cook up a week's worth of meals with other people, in a fully-equipped kitchen, etc. good company, instructions, all the ingredients-- someone needs to start up a business, then franchise it, doing that for homemade pet-meals! people could get together, talk about their critters, share information--and go home with food! too bad i am totally USELESS when it comes to manifesting anything i visualize. the concrete details slay me -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 _ i'm making a difference. Make every IM count for the cause of your choice. Join Now. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme008001msn/direct/01/?href=http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=wlmailtagline
RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley
If you are not a non profit then you could possibly try to work with one -- so if you paid whatever monies to them for the services and they paid the bills, you could get a tax write off from the IRS. You would need a receipt from the nonprofit. It is so kind of you to help the kitties and I know every cent counts! Where is the money tree when we need it! Anita Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:10:20 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia - to Kelley Thanks Hideyo, He did not run coombs test. So the diagnosis is suspected. See, my problem is that I do rescue...so I have other cats in need of medical. I know you have lots of cats too. But the problem is, if I spend all my money on Joey (I am spending my personal money on a 24% credit card to help him because people do not want to donate to a 10 year old cat. His dad said he would send $100 but so far he has not). Anyway if I spend all my credit card on Joey and then I have another cat who needs treatment and I have spent all my money on Joey - then I can't help the other cat. It is driving me crazy to try to decide what to do. I have a cat coming in Wednesday that will probably have to have one eye removed. But I don't know that yet, my vet has to see her. AIHA from what I can find on the internet is regenerative anemia. Kelley On 3/27/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Kelley, Nina wrote to me off list and I wanted to respond to you as I am going through a very very situation with my FIV boy Felix – I do wanted to find out more from you about the diagnosis of AIHA of Joey – did they run coombs test to determine the illness of AIHA? Is he regenerative anemia? Epgoen may help only if anemia is non regenerative – my Ayumi is non regenerative anemia and we don't know why – it could be from severe stomatitis – anyway, she Is not CRF kitty, but epogen seems to have helped her as she is maintaining low 20's o PCV for now.. On the other hand, my Felix is highly regenerative, but his body seems to attack his RBC – usually it goes down below 10 – he has had his 4 th transfusion on Saturday – fortunately he has not had any reactions from it. My recommendation is that.. if it goes down lower and get weaker, especially, if he will have hard time breathing, which will happen if his PCV goes down further, I recommend that you do transfusion – even with hermobartnella kitties, often times, they have to get multiple transfusion until the med start working – but at least it will buy you some time meantime..Felix is on steroid and on doxy as well.. I am still waiting for his Hemobartenella PCR result (takes about one week form Idexx) – I will continue to do transfusions as long as I can afford it and he does not develop reactions – he feels so much better after his transfusions – There is a page as to how to treat AIHA in case hyou have not read it – I will forward it to you, as the suggest other drugs if they don't respond to steroid – I am considering using for my Felix as well. You also may wan to ask your vet if you can get oxygen tank in case he will have a hard time breathing.. I have used for my cats at home and have it here all the time, and it has come so handy, especially a kitty with severe anemia. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley SaveikaSent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:11 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia Thanks Wendy, It is VERY scary. I did not ask him about Epogen. I asked him about transfusions. He said that they are no longer recommended becuase those red blood cells get attacked too, but he would do one for me if I wanted. Right now, for a sick cat, Joey is acting pretty good. He grooms a little, and lies on his tummy with his head up, instead of on his side with his head laying on the floor. He is quite feisty with me when I give him his meds, too. He is able to walk on his own to the food and water dish. If he makes it he will probably have to be on steroids for life to keep it from coming back. On 3/21/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kelley,I'm so sorry about Joey's prognosis. Anemia is soscary. I did a little research and humans with AIHA use Epogen. Did your vet say whether Epogen wouldhelp Joey?:)Wendy--- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been diagnosed with Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia. I'm really concerned about him. I feel bad because I think I should have noticed something sooner. What information can yall give me about this disease? It is my understanding this disease is more common in FELV+ cats. Thanks, -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
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70% false positives
Ten House Cats, is this the link/info that you meant when you said that 70% of cats are false positives? Anita http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=2551866dopt=Abstract 1: J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1989 Oct 1;195(7):928-30. Links Comment in: J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1989 Dec 15;195(12):1680. J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1990 Jan 1;196(1):10-1. Interpreting feline leukemia test results. · Romatowski J. Routine prevaccinal screening for FeLV has inherent statistical limitations owing to the magnification of false-positive test errors by the low prevalence of FeLV viremia in the general cat population. Positive ELISA test results obtained in a screening program should be interpreted with caution, because a high proportion--approximately 72%--of such are likely to be false-positive results. On the other hand, routine screening is an excellent method for ruling out FeLV viremia, because a false-negative result is likely to be obtained in only 1/1,000 tests. PMID: 2551866 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE
RE: 70% false positives
I totally understand! Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:49:36 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: 70% false positivesno, but this is interesting to keep aroundi'm sorry, i haven't had a chance to look up the articles yet--i do rescue, and that's been consuming all my time lately!haven't forgotten, tho--thought about it last night, right before i fell asleep MC On 3/12/07, Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ten House Cats, is this the link/info that you meant when you said that 70% of cats are false positives? Anita http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=2551866dopt=Abstract 1: J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1989 Oct 1;195(7):928-30. Links Comment in: J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1989 Dec 15;195(12):1680. J Am Vet Med Assoc. 1990 Jan 1;196(1):10-1. Interpreting feline leukemia test results. · Romatowski J. Routine prevaccinal screening for FeLV has inherent statistical limitations owing to the magnification of false-positive test errors by the low prevalence of FeLV viremia in the general cat population. Positive ELISA test results obtained in a screening program should be interpreted with caution, because a high proportion--approximately 72%--of such are likely to be false-positive results. On the other hand, routine screening is an excellent method for ruling out FeLV viremia, because a false-negative result is likely to be obtained in only 1/1,000 tests. PMID: 2551866 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more!-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 289856892 _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
Kitten re-tests negative
Hello Everyone, I am sorry about the kitties that have passed over to the Rainbow Bridge. I hope you all find comfort in knowing that you gave them the best life possible and love -- the most important thing of all. I posted to the list back in late October about a kitten named BooBo that had tested a slight positive for Felv. She had low blood platelets, anemic, and had petechia on her ears and body (long story), and slight fever. I gave her Vitamin C, Transfer Factor and L-Lysine. In January, she re-tested negative. I did go back to the same vet that had recommended re-testing in 3 weeks and euthanizing if positive. I am so glad I did as she was so excited that she was negative, she called me with the results. She did both an in house SNAP and sent the bloodwork out - both negative. There are 3 other vets in the practice, so they all know it is possible to convert -- whereas before, they did not. Best wishes to all, Anita _ Live Search: Better results, fast http://get.live.com/search/overview
