Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
I had the same problem. I'm registered but I couldn't get on that site. Sidney ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377040x1201454360/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] yearly vaccinations for FeLv+ cats
It's time for the General's yearly checkup. I've had him for 2 years. He's had a rabies shot and a calici virus shot and FVRCP booster when I got him and then the next year as well. I'm not a big vaccination person, I no longer allow my dog to be vaccinated. This cat was a stray, and he is now a 100% indoor cat. I'm thinking I should ask the vet to titer him. I just don't feel good about giving vaccinations to an immune compromised cat. What do you folks do? Sidney and the General ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322936x1201367173/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=115amp; bcd=Mayfooter51209NO115) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
I can't tell you much about the seperation part as I only have the one cat, and have never had one before this one. I just want to put in my 2 cents for the idea that FeLv+ cats can live very happy lives. I have one that I've had for 2 years. he may get sick tomorrow, and he has been sick with a few things over the last 2 years but he's a happy kitty that wouldn't be here if I hadn't taken him in or had put him down when the first vet told me to. Sidney and the General ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc =668072amp;hmpgID=62amp;bcd=Aprilfooter427NO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charlotte is going back to the vet tommorrow
I'm certainly not a vet, so maybe this is overkill, but I'm very cautious about carrying disease/germs etc. when I come back from the shelter (I volunteer there) I am afraid, not that I'll infect anyone there, but that my FeLV+ boy will pick up some germ from there. So I don't take him there and I literally take off my shoes at the door of my house, and immediately go to the bathroom and take off all my clothes and take a shower when I come in the door just in case I have anything on me that he might get. I then spray down my shoes with lysol before I bring them in. I put the clothes in the hamper and wash them before I wear them again. I'm a regular volunteer. I may be carrying it too far but i am scared that I'll bring something home to either the cat or the dog who has chronic erlichiosis. Sidney ** Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219799634x1201361008/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad .doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133440%3B36002254%3Bj) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
HAS anyone done a CBC? I'm wondering if his red blood cell count is down, which might account for the shortness of breath since they carry oxygen. Pale gums can be a sign of low red blood cells. I'm not a vet, I've just got a dog with low red and white cells from a tick borne disease. Sidney ** Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631252x1201390195/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213968550%3B35701427%3Bh) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
My Miniature Schnauzer has a host of things wrong with her.? She's on Vetricine to boost her immune system.? Since General won't eat his food with the immune support stuff in it I've been sprinkling Vetricine on it along with his lysine and he loves it.? Apparently vetricine tastes better than the immune support pills.? I've read about vetricine and I assume that it's ok for cats but I wondered if anyone else uses it or has heard of it.? It's a white powder.? And I've about given up on the interferon because he just gets so low when he takes it, after 3 days of it he's throwing up, not eating and hiding in the bedroom. Sidney and the General ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] questions about how to handle an felv+/non-symptomatic cat
can you guys tell me that there is a chance finley could still fight this virus? I can tell you that my guy came in as a stray 2 years ago weighing 10 lbs and being tested as positive.? he's in the house, he weighs 15.5 lbs and he's doing great.? He gets some runny eyes and sneezes but once I started lysine full time that has stopped.? I'm sure he'll be positive forever but that doesn't mean he won't have a good and I hope long life.? I'm new at the whole cat thing so this is a new experience for me.? But I just knew I couldn't have him put to sleep. Sidney and the General ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
1 cc a day for 7 days and then off for 7 days.? he weighs 15.5 lbs.? After about 3 days he'd get punky and just not feel well, stay in the bedroom and not eat and/or throw up. Just wondering - How much of a daily dose of interferon did you give him?? ? Gloria? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
all I know is that my vet gave me a little vial with an eye dropper. From that I draw out 1 cc and squirt it in his mouth. The vial is small, and is only marked interferon on the label. Sidney ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0002) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
In a message dated 4/14/2009 5:36:44 PM Central Daylight Time, souther...@aol.com writes: squirt it in his mouth. that would be the cat's mouth, not the vet's mouth :-) ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0002) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
In a message dated 4/14/2009 5:55:11 PM Central Daylight Time, gbl...@aristotle.net writes: If it were making one of my cats sick, I'd probably just lower the dose, but that's just a gut reaction. Might discuss it with the vet, of course, or research it a bit. well, I did. My vet just insists that it can't be what is causing him to be sick on those days. He swears it must be a coincidence but it happens EVERY TIME, after about 3 days of interferon. He says it just doesn't make them sick. Sidney ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0002) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
ok, we'll try for one day on and one day off and see how we do ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0002) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ok, interferon question here
My guy is a very big (15.5 lb) FeLV+. he's supposed to be taking interferon on a week and off a week. It has gotten to the point that now after about 3 days on, he seems to feel bad, he curls up and won't leave the bed all day and won't eat. I stop the interferon and he's good to go again within 24 hours. My vet just insists that there's no corrolation. I'm fairly new at this cat thing since he's only lived with me for 2 years and I have ZERO cat experience prior to that time. But I swear there's a corrolation. Do I stop the interferon or do I keep on? BTW I just started giving him vetricine as my dog is on that for her immune issues (the cat vet (who is a cat specialist) doesn't know about that :-) and I now have the cat on the lysine powder , that comes from the vet, all the time as he would have runny eyes and sneezing and I'd give it, then he'd clear up and the vet would say stop, and then he'd start again. So now I just leave him on it (vet doesn't know that either :-) my vet bills ran so high last year that I am trying to do a few things for myself rather than taking him in every time he sneezes or doesn't eat. So anyone have any similar experience with interferon? Sidney and the General ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
The shelter where I volunteer is a no kill shelter unless the cat tests positive for Feline Leukemia or Feline Aids. If they do, they are immediately euthanized. That day. ?? What I'd like to do is to convince them to give me a few days to see if I can find anyone who will adopt these cats before they are killed.? I understand the theory of the shelter. But they don't look at FeLV + the same way I do.? They truly believe that this is a cat with a death sentence.? Since I have a boy that has lived with me for two years, and lived well, I see that these cats may have a long life ahead if given a chance.? And I know that in some cases you can test a cat, have it test positive, and then test it again in a few weeks and have it test negative. ? This is a small new shelter and they may be amenable to discussion.? And since I had a vet tell me that I should have this cat euthanized when I took him in to be neutered, I guess it's a particularly sore spot with me.? I think the General is pretty happy that I didn't listen to that vet. Sidney and the General -Original Message- From: patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 8:24 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters With respect to the general practice of euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters, having fostered many cats from a big city shelter that of course was underfunded and understaffed, I can say that in my city it is impossible to find foster homes, never mind adoptive homes, for all that test positive. Very young kittens cannot be tested reliably and of course, the need for foster homes for the littlest babies is great. When fosterers finally test those kittens and find out that one or more is positive, there are really only a couple of options. That home can keep the kitten sequestered if possible for retesting when older or take it back to be euthanized. Then what happens if the kitten retests positive? Or what about the older cat that is infected shortly before it gets into the shelter and tests negative when going to a foster home but if actually carrying the virus? In my case, I ended up with 3 positive one year olds along with my adult cats who are vaccinated. I have decided to no longer foster any other cats because, outside of the logistics of separating which would be too hard in my situation, I don't want to introduce a new stressor in the house that might trigger the FELV to become active in these positive ones. My answer is to care for these positives for the rest of their lives. However, I fostered and found adoptive homes for 100 kittens and cats in the last two years but now, because I am hospicing these 3 cats, it is fair to say that a good number of cats will die in the next two years as the kill rate is significant here. It is a really painful fact that I could save the lives of many more than three cats if I put these FELV+ cats down. Therefore, because healthy happy well adjusted wonderful pet cats are put down every single day of the year in my city and probably most other big cities, I think that a policy of euthanizing cats that test positive for an incurable illness before euthanizing healthy adoptable cats makes sense. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
In a message dated 3/23/2009 11:05:35 AM Central Daylight Time, ma...@bemikitties.com writes: I agree 100% with Anita, we live in a world where more and more people become less responsible, less humane and less caring about anything *but* themselves. Until that changes nothing else will. But all I can do is what I can do. I try to live by the words of Gandhi - BE the change you wish to see in the world. If I do that, and you do that and someone else does that, maybe eventually we will make a difference. But we can't control anyone but ourselves, and our own actions. I have to start with me. Sidney ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
Do they hold and re-test? Cats with FIV can live a normal lifespan. nope. Cats with FeLV+ can live a normal lifespan altho' I realize it isn't common. But they don't retest. They test once and that's it. -Original Message- From: Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters Do they hold and re-test? Cats with FIV can live a normal lifespan. Ethically, killing cats who test initially positive or even confirmed positive but who are not suffering is wrong on so many levels. Maybe they need to look up the definition of euthanasia. We had a Cat Management Forum last September and a volunteer took some pretty good notes from Dr. Christine Wilford of the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project in Washington State - check it out here: http://www.pawsofpa.org/new/join_the_team.php?p=72 And the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project website here: http://www.feralcatproject.org/ Any reasonable person/people should be willing to listen to the most reputable veterinary scientists on this subject - not only does it include Dr. Wilford but Dr. Julie Levy - whose articles are referenced in Dr. Wilford's presentation. Dr. Julie Levy has a site here: http://www.ufsheltermedicine.com/meetTeam_Levy.html She runs Operation Catnip at the University of Florida at Gainesville. You can do a Google search on the subjects or even contact the veterinarians and ask their advice to medical information. Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PA Visit http://www.alleycat.org and http://www.neighborhoodcats.org for info on humane control of free roaming cats Visit http://www.pawsofpa.org for information on spay/neuter clinics and resources in south-central PA Join the Yahoo! Group for feral free roaming cats http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feralcatsinsouthcentralpa/ _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
The cats in the shelter where I volunteer are not feral.? They are/were someone's pets, at least they appear to have been around humans during the time as kittens when they adapt to human interaction.? Some were dropped, and some are brought in.? But if the cat is FeLV+ the shelter won't take a surrender.? It's the strays that are found that are FeLV+ that are euthanized. I am hoping to change that thought process, at least delay it a bit.? My guy was a stray. I'd NEVER had a cat before.? I ended up keeping my guy, who I now can't imagine being without, because I couldn't find a no kill shelter who would accept him.? I had a hard time finding a place to even board him until I found a cat only vet who now is his vet and where I board him when I have to go out of town.? So my little mission is to try to educate folks on the joys of a FeLV+ cat.? Had General tested negative, he wouldn't be living with me, and I'd have missed a wonderful experience in my life. Sidney and the General ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
where are you located? I volunteer at a humane shelter in Tennessee and unfortunately their current policy is to euthanize any cats that come in and test positive. I am trying to change their thinking :-) Sidney ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Devastated and Ignorant-Confused-New Diagnosis in Multiple Cat...
In a message dated 3/21/2009 3:45:46 PM Central Daylight Time, dlg...@windstream.net writes: i believe that it is our cats who own us I never had a cat until the General came to live with me. I named him for a cat in the John Wayne movie True Grit. Mattie Ross says to Rooster Cogburn You don't have anyone except for Chin Lee and that lazy cat. To which he replies General Price? He don't belong to me. Cats don't belong to nobody. He just rooms with me. Course I depend on him. And so it is with me and General Sterling Price, who just rooms with me and who I depend on. Sidney and the General ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better u...
In a message dated 3/6/2009 9:38:47 PM Central Standard Time, lauriesk...@mchsi.com writes: Mine also like Viralys which is a flavored powder and about 3 times as expensive as the pills. That's the one I'm using. From the vet. Sidney and the General ** Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp; ncid=emlcntusyelp0005) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] forms of lysine
The one I use is a powder, bought from my vet, that I sprinkle on food. Sidney and the General ** Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp; ncid=emlcntusyelp0005) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
he General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted. Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? Thanks, he is a really special guy. He's won all of us non-cat people in the family over (except the dog, and she still hate him). I know of Dr. Dodds from having an epileptic dog :-) I didn't realize that she was involved with cats as well. I'm going to talk to my vet this year about the vaccinations. I don't have my dog vaccinated any longer, and since General is now an inside cat, I don't really see the need for him to be vaccinated. Sidney -Original Message- From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 8:59 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi Sidney The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted. Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a really bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the powder into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when it comes to detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she gets 500mg daily and although it takes time, it usually works. I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than weeks. I wonder if that would make a difference. There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to prove that we over vaccinate our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its lifetime. You can Google the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are involved. A rabies shot can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about vaccinating an Felv kittie. Hope your General continues to thrive. Jane On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote: AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me. I have never owned a cat in my life. I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK. I was not happy. I tried to shoo him away. He was having none of it. He was like a bag of bones. And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than dogs are!) He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. The next day he was still out there. So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl. So the next day, when he was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery. He ate it of course. After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered. So I took him to the vet. He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV +. You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic) This boy went from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my husband and me. He has some really strange eating habits these days. He won't eat any one food for long. My vet wants him on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now. He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry. He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat it and I'll change. The only problem I have is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements. He's on an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food. Now he won't eat it if I do. I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it. So I'm in a little bit of a state over this. he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon. He's had a kidney infection he's overcome. he has had pancreatitis that he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory infections. We think he's probably about 4-7 years old. He came to me when he was between 2-5 we think. I think he was dumped because he has such a love of humans. He's a big (15 lbs now) lapcat. He loves to be petted. He loves to be around people. He follows me every step I take, if the dog will let him. His only stress is the Mini Schnauzer who is 12 and has epilepsy :-) She hates him. He just tries to stay out of her way. (She sleeps on the bed at the foot and he sleeps
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me. I have never owned a cat in my life. I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK. I was not happy. I tried to shoo him away. He was having none of it. He was like a bag of bones. And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than dogs are!) He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. The next day he was still out there. So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl. So the next day, when he was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery. He ate it of course. After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered. So I took him to the vet. He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV+. You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic) This boy went from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my husband and me. He has some really strange eating habits these days. He won't eat any one food for long. My vet wants him on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now. He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry. He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat it and I'll change. The only problem I have is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements. He's on an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food. Now he won't eat it if I do. I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it. So I'm in a little bit of a state over this. he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon. He's had a kidney infection he's overcome. he has had pancreatitis that he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory infections. We think he's probably about 4-7 years old. He came to me when he was between 2-5 we think. I think he was dumped because he has such a love of humans. He's a big (15 lbs now) lapcat. He loves to be petted. He loves to be around people. He follows me every step I take, if the dog will let him. His only stress is the Mini Schnauzer who is 12 and has epilepsy :-) She hates him. He just tries to stay out of her way. (She sleeps on the bed at the foot and he sleeps up at the head, by my head!) Every time he sneezes I worry. But he's hanging in there so far, and as far as I can tell he is prospering. He has had rabies vaccine and calici virus in the past but I don't know if we'll do rabies this year since he isn't outside now. I'll have to talk to my vet about that and the calici too. Sidney and the General -Original Message- From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Could anyone help?
Try the Consumer Affairs division of the State Attorney General's office (not the same thing as the District Attorney). -Original Message- From: Chris ti...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 5:34 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Could anyone help? In the state of Wisconsin, charities are overseen by the dept of regulation and licensing. It might be worth going thru them as if this place is collecting monies and not spending on the animals, then they are clearly in violation. If they collect monies and don't have the IRS status necessary, they are in violation. Also, have you enlisted the help of any of the larger shelters in the area? http://drl.wi.gov/boards/rco/index.htm Chris ti...@mindspring.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jb...@tds.net Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Could anyone help? You are a wonderful group of people with knowledge and connections that are fantastic. For that reason, I would like to ask for anyone's help or suggestions. There is a 'non-kill', all volunteer animal shelter in my community that is run by a 75 year old horder and her husband (the treasurer). The facility is horrendous condition. Feces, urine and vomit cover the floors, walls and cages. Medical care is all but ignored, disease runs through the facility. In fact they have felv and are ignoring it. I have taken four felv positive cats out of there in less than a year. Three have died. Many, many, many complaints have been made to the sheriff's department, only recently did we get them to present something to the DA's office, but they will not press charges. These are bad people running this facility and the animals suffer badly at their hands. They claim to be a poor facility that can't afford to change the situation, but own 1.7 million in personal property and have recently received $34,000 in donations with no change in the facility. They owe the government, the vet and many others. There is deceit, poor management and constant animal suffering. Does anyone know a lawyer that would be willing to help. The facility is in Wisconsin. We have involved HSUS, PETA, ALDF, the sheriff's department, the town board, local humane officer. Noone can get in to shut the place down. There must be some law that can help. Please help us help these animals. The stories are horrendous and never ending. Thanks Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sidney, How is General?
He's eating but now he seems to be throwing up what he eats. he has no fever and he acts normal. Has been fever free and acting normal for the last couple of days. The not eating and the fever was just one day. But I gave him Meow mix wet the last few days and he threw it up twice. I just gave him Evo, after the Meow Mix came up this morning. If this doesn't work I have the chicken and turkey baby food to try. ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] General seems to have a fever
Well, he ate the broth of the canned chicken I had (regular people Tyson white meat canned chicken) and then he ate 3 or 4 bites of the actual meat. This morning he's done the same thing. No cat food but he'll drink that broth and eat some of the meat. He's much perkier today and as far as I can tell, no fever (cool ears, cool wet nose, moving around, more social.) So we're better. I just wish I knew what I was doing! Sidney and the General ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] General seems to have a fever
This is just canned chicken, not broth, and the can says 100% canned chicken. It doesn't say anything about any spices. ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] General seems to have a fever
I just won't give it to him any more. It's Tyson canned chicken breast. ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp; icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] General ~ tysons canned chicken breast nutrition facts
It's ok, I'm not going to give it to him anymore. Sorry guys, I didn't mean to create a fuss or this much discussion! I know I've done wrong now. I won't do it again. ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp; icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] General seems to have a fever
he hasn't eaten again today. he was eating fine the last few days, but today he didn't eat and he's staying in his bed and really isn't communicating with anyone, and this is a social cat. His little nose and his ears are warm. No jaundice of his eyes or gums that I can see. He was sneezing a lot yesterday and this morning. Not now. But he's breathing fine. he just isn't getting out of his bed. He's stayed totally in the bed for the last 6 hours I know. My vet isn't open again until Monday. Is there anything I need to be doing? Remember I know nothing about cats. I tried doing some googling, and it scared me to death! Sidney and the General ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp; icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] General seems to have a fever
he has only failed to eat today. He was eating fine yesterday. He perked up a little just in the last 10 minutes, came over and made biscuits on my tummy and nowhe's taking a bath in the recliner :-) THANKS ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp; icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] General didn't eat breakfast
He is eating, he just doesn't seem to want his canned food.? I swear he's like my son was when he was little.? He got sick after eating a grilled cheese sandwich once and to this day he won't eat grilled cheese.? General was eating canned food and loving it when he had an attack of what we think is pancreatitis.? He has had a slow climb? back from that and I swear I think it's because that's what he was eating then.? He also will not get on the sofa that he was on when he got so sick and threw up all over the sofa and I do mean ALL OVER it.? (I didn't fuss at him for it, I was so upset because he was so lifeless when I found him)? Since then he's had nothing to do with that sofa.? Sidney and the General -Original Message- From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 8:12 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] General didn't eat breakfast Maybe try to tempt him with a treat of some sort? I don't know. You're in my thoughts. I remember when I got my first cat and didn't know anything about them. It takes a while. I hope someone has more advice for you. tonya souther...@aol.com wrote: Do I need to be worried? He seemed fine this morning, but he didn't eat. He's spent the day in the living room, but not curled on the heat vent like he has done in the past. When he's been feeling bad before he curls up on the heat vent. He's not been very social today but he isn't doing that. How do I tell if he's really in pain? Or sick? Remember I've never had a cat before. His vet thinks that he may have had a touch of pancreatitis over the last couple of weeks. Dogs I know. Cats are a mystery. Sidney and the General ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp; icid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] General didn't eat breakfast
Do I need to be worried? He seemed fine this morning, but he didn't eat. He's spent the day in the living room, but not curled on the heat vent like he has done in the past. When he's been feeling bad before he curls up on the heat vent. He's not been very social today but he isn't doing that. How do I tell if he's really in pain? Or sick? Remember I've never had a cat before. His vet thinks that he may have had a touch of pancreatitis over the last couple of weeks. Dogs I know. Cats are a mystery. Sidney and the General ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp; icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Interferon use?
When I first took General to the vet I use now, the vet started him on interferon, liquid, 7 days on and 7 days off. I did that for a long time but since he's been having all these tummy problems, it seems that when I give it to him now he vomits that day. Are you folks on interferon? have you had any issues with it? Sidney and the General ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:19:08 AM Central Standard Time, maima...@duo-county.com writes: Love him with all your and do not fear the future. Everyone who loves and is loved has a broken heart eventually and, just as eventually, breaks another's heart. Learn from him. He's already taught me a lot. For one thing, I now consider myself to be a cat and dog person! I would NEVER have said that 2 years ago. And I think it was Queen Elizabeth II who said Grief is the price we pay for love Thanks, Sidney and the General ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:49:47 AM Central Standard Time, drosenfe...@wi.rr.com writes: In your case, if the pancreatitis is still going, the trick is to feed something that won't irritate the pancreas. Slippery slope, but doable. Do you have any suggestions as to what that might be? Sidney and the General ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)
I just found this list after doing a little on line reading. I joined this list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline Leukemia positive cat. Here's our story: I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and I'm almost 52. Two years ago this coming spring I was in my yard working in my flowers and this poor scrawny cat came and climbed up in my lap. I kept moving him and he came moving back in my lap. He just kept hanging around so I gave him milk (remember I know NOTHING about cats). The next day he was sitting on my front porch so I brought him some dog food out (that's all I had as I have always had dogs) He ate it as fast as I'd give it to him. The next day he was still there so I bought him catfood. I started feeding him every day outside. He stayed. After about 3 weeks I figured if he was going to stay I better get him to a vet and get him neutered. I took him to my dog's vet who tested him for Feline Leukemia and I don't know what else and said he's positive for Feline Leukemia, you might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die anyway. Well, I'd become attached to him so I said, no not gonna do that. Go ahead and neuter him and give him whatever vaccinations he needs and we'll go from there. I found a local vet that specializes in cats and took him there. I moved him inside and there's he's been ever since. He's a huge boy now, a sweet loving lap cat and I love him with all my heart :-) He's had some problems, a kidney infection, eye infections, and now he's having some issues with what they think is pancreatitis. He's had bouts of vomiting, and loss of appetite. It comes back after a day or so and he's fine for several days but then it seems to come back. I'm now waiting on the results of some test that may be able to determine if it is truly pancreatitis. All his other blood levels are normal. No temp. Today his heart rate was up but other than that he was normal other than he acted like his tummy hurt and he wouldn't eat and didn't want to be handled (both things are very unlike him as he'd sit in my lap for hours usually if I'll let him) So here we are and we're hoping to learn. Oh, his name is General Sterling Price, named for a cat in a John Wayne movie, True Grit (Mattie Ross: You don't have any family, do you?Except Chen Lee and that lazy cat. Cogburn: General Price don't belong to me.Cats don't belong to nobody! He just rooms with me.Course I depend on him...) Sidney and General Sterling Price ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
