RE: Can't print from Frame

[Dov Isaacs]

Tina,

Bubbamisa!

Good try, but absolutely groundless. The optimize for
portability hack was put into the Windows driver to deal
with some applications, FrameMaker NOT being among them,
that injected their own PostScript into the driver's output
stream improperly, interfering with the current graphics
state of the PostScript job. It also makes a bit of a 
difference how fonts and procedure definitions (what you
are calling a shorthand version of PostScript are put 
into the job, but certainly not how they are used.

If in fact, use of the optimize for portability option
causes something to print that doesn't otherwise print
from FrameMaker, you are dealing with either (1) a very 
traif EPS file (EPS file improperly constructed, not 
following the rules for EPS files), (2) an otherwise terribly
misconfigured printer driver or print itself or (3) a very 
crufty PostScript RIP / printer.

- Dov


 -Original Message-
 From: Tina Poole
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:21 PM
 To: Gillian Flato; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Can't print from Frame
 
 Hi Gillian
 
 If you look in your postscript settings on the printer
 dialog there will be an option that says something like
 Optimize for speed change this to Optimize for portability.
 Speed gives a shorthand version of postscript which confuses
 some printers, while portability includes everything (this is
 how it was explained to me not sure if it is correct or not
 but generally fixes the crazy stack errors).
 
 
 tina
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Moving book sections to nested folders without losing X refs

[Kevin Hunter]

hi all,
 
I have two large books that have dozens of cross references to each other. 
Because of a structural change to our software and the creation of a new 
sub-version of this application, I'm trying to rearrange the erstwhile book 
chapters, in both books, into subfolders to keep things a little more 
organized. Does anyone have any tips on how to move a chapter to a new 
subfolder (in explorer) in such a way that I don't have to then re-build all my 
cross references manually?
 
thanks - 
 
Kevin
 
ExcelSystems Software Development, Inc.
BCD International, Inc.
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FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Scott Prentice]

Hi...

I just noticed a couple of good FM deals on eBay.


FrameMaker Server 7.2 Windows - $2,950.00 (save $4000 off retail!)

   
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=300097209620


FrameMaker 7.2 Full Version for Windows - $579.95 (save $220 off retail)

   
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=110110291360



Disclaimer .. I have no affiliation with these sellers, and know nothing 
about the validity or legality of the items for sale .. as always, do 
your own research to make sure you're getting what you expect.  :)


Cheers!

...scott


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Re: Moving book sections to nested folders without losing X refs

[Art Campbell]

Well, first, don't use Explorer.

You may want to use Bruce Foster's Archive plug in to make a safe copy
of the book(s) and all the component parts before you begin.

To do the actual move, open the book files and use the Rename File
tool to rename the component/chapter files, one by one, into the new
folder(s). If you do it this way, cross-refs and such should be
maintained.

Art

On 4/5/07, Kevin Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi all,

I have two large books that have dozens of cross references to each other. 
Because of a structural change to our software and the creation of a new 
sub-version of this application, I'm trying to rearrange the erstwhile book 
chapters, in both books, into subfolders to keep things a little more 
organized. Does anyone have any tips on how to move a chapter to a new 
subfolder (in explorer) in such a way that I don't have to then re-build all my 
cross references manually?

thanks -

Kevin

ExcelSystems Software Development, Inc.
BCD International, Inc.
www.bcdsoftware.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fax: (250) 655-1733

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Re: Bleed off the page

[Drew Little]

I got that part fine, but the tabs stop at the edge of the page. is 
there a way to make the tabs larger than the page size for bleed 
purposes? I am sure it is something rather simple, but for the life 
of me, I can't figure it out.


At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:

Shouldn't be a big problem.

Look at C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
master pages...

If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
sample is in Template pack #1, I think.

Art

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Hi! I have a rather sizable book with descending thumb tabs on the
side. The printer printing the book needs 1/4 bleeds off the page.
Is there an easy way to do that in FrameMaker 7.2? thanks!

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Re: Bleed off the page

[Steve Rickaby]

At 08:04 -0700 5/4/07, Drew Little wrote:

I got that part fine, but the tabs stop at the edge of the page. is there a 
way to make the tabs larger than the page size for bleed purposes? I am sure 
it is something rather simple, but for the life of me, I can't figure it out.

Hi Drew... yes, it's quite easy. Work out the visual dimension of the object 
you want to bleed, *add* the bleed to it, and draw that on the master. Position 
it flush to the edge of the page, and then nudge the graphic off the page by an 
amount equal to the size of the bleed.

If you cut PDF onto a larger 'paper' size than your FrameMaker page, and turn 
on trims, you should be able to see the bleeds to check their size and 
positioning.

-- 
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Re: Bleed off the page

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:

Look at C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
master pages...

If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
sample is in Template pack #1, I think.


Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
that I am using!

So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
for recent versions of FrameMaker?

Z
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Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Chris Borokowski]

Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices always
drop to reduce stock.

--- Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi...
 
 I just noticed a couple of good FM deals on eBay.
 
 
 FrameMaker Server 7.2 Windows - $2,950.00 (save
 $4000 off retail!)
 
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=300097209620
 
 FrameMaker 7.2 Full Version for Windows - $579.95
 (save $220 off retail)
 
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=110110291360
 
 
 Disclaimer .. I have no affiliation with these
 sellers, and know nothing 
 about the validity or legality of the items for sale
 .. as always, do 
 your own research to make sure you're getting what
 you expect.  :)
 
 Cheers!
 
 ...scott
 
 
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Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Alan Houser]

Just a follow-up to Scott's note -- Adobe's FrameMaker upgrade policy is 
one of the most liberal that I've seen from a major software company. 
You can purchase FrameMaker 7.2 for Windows at the upgrade price of $199 
USD if you have _any_ previous version of FrameMaker or FrameMaker+SGML 
(the UNIX price is slightly higher).


Adobe has publicly stated that a new release of FrameMaker will be 
available this year. If the new version is a major release (e.g., 
FrameMaker 8.0), one can speculate that the upgrade price may be 
substantially higher. As a data point, the upgrade price for FrameMaker 
7.0 was approximately $400 USD.


-Alan

Scott Prentice wrote:

Hi...

I just noticed a couple of good FM deals on eBay.


FrameMaker Server 7.2 Windows - $2,950.00 (save $4000 off retail!)

   
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=300097209620


FrameMaker 7.2 Full Version for Windows - $579.95 (save $220 off retail)

   
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=110110291360



Disclaimer .. I have no affiliation with these sellers, and know 
nothing about the validity or legality of the items for sale .. as 
always, do your own research to make sure you're getting what you 
expect.  :)


Cheers!

...scott


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RE: FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Dov Isaacs]

Make no such assumption, especially when dealing with
eBay. The prices mentioned reflect (1) someone has
genuine product obtained illicitly - use your imagination,
(2) copied CDs with either a cracked software version
or stolen serial serial number, or (3) ...
Remember that prices that are too good to be true are the
best indicators of fraud of some type.

- Dov

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 Subject: Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...
 
 Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices always
 drop to reduce stock.
 
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RE: FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Chris Borokowski]

Good point. Software showing up in droves on eBay, of
a particular package, reflects *a belief* that a new
version is coming soon as merchants clear out their
stock. The guys who show up to computer shows and hawk
their wares on PriceWatch are the ones I'm thinking
of, and a few of them here in H-town have been offer
specials on FrameMaker recently.

(As an aside, they should rename eBay caveat emptor
and I never buy software there.)

Thanks for the heads up, Dov!

--- Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Make no such assumption, especially when dealing
 with
 eBay. The prices mentioned reflect (1) someone has
 genuine product obtained illicitly - use your
 imagination,
 (2) copied CDs with either a cracked software
 version
 or stolen serial serial number, or (3) ...
 Remember that prices that are too good to be true
 are the
 best indicators of fraud of some type.
 
   - Dov
 
  -Original Message-
  From:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of Chris Borokowski
  Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:01 AM
  To: Scott Prentice; 'Framers'; Free Framers List
  Subject: Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...
  
  Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices
 always
  drop to reduce stock.
  
  --- Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


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Re: Bleed off the page

[Art Campbell]

It doesn't give you an error message, it gives you a prompt asking if
you want to convert the file you're opening to your newer version's
file format. If you do, and if you save the file, then it works in
your newer version the next time you open it. The conversion only
needs to be done once.

On 4/5/07, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:
 Look at C:\Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
 example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
 master pages...

 If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
 downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
 old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
 sample is in Template pack #1, I think.

Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
that I am using!

So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
for recent versions of FrameMaker?

Z




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RE: FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Bruce Wolf]

More Words of Wisdom from Dov.

Several years ago a guy scammed me with a FrameMaker
sale via Ebay.  I learned that Adobe was looking for
him for previous scams.

'Nuff Said?

BW 

--- Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Make no such assumption, especially when dealing
 with
 eBay. The prices mentioned reflect (1) someone has
 genuine product obtained illicitly - use your
 imagination,
 (2) copied CDs with either a cracked software
 version
 or stolen serial serial number, or (3) ...
 Remember that prices that are too good to be true
 are the
 best indicators of fraud of some type.
 
   - Dov
 
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  Subject: Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...
  
  Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices
 always
  drop to reduce stock.
  
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PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[John Pilla]

HELP! 
I am trying to PDF a book.
I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the 
PostScript (*.ps) file. 
6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . . 
..
 
 
%%[Page: 294]%%
%%[Page: 295]%%
%%[Page: 296]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef 
A172040.1 ]%%

Stack:
/ANN
/Custom
/Subtype
[-null- -null- -null-]
/Border
[4700 6073 4738 5988]
/Rect
{A172040.1}
/_objdef
-dict-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
..
 
 
 
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MRO Software (An IBM Company) 
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Re: PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[Shlomo Perets]

John,

You wrote:


HELP!
I am trying to PDF a book.
I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the
PostScript (*.ps) file.
6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . .
.. 



%%[Page: 294]%%
%%[Page: 295]%%
%%[Page: 296]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
A172040.1 ]%%
...


Turn off Generate Tagged PDF in FrameMaker's PDF Setup dialog box, Tags tab;
recreate the .ps and distill again.


Shlomo Perets

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Re: Bleed off the page

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Art.

Art Campbell wrote:

It doesn't give you an error message, it gives you a prompt asking if
you want to convert the file you're opening to your newer version's
file format. If you do, and if you save the file, then it works in
your newer version the next time you open it. The conversion only
needs to be done once.


Okay ... I will try again because I gave up the last time! :)

Thanks!

Z


On 4/5/07, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:
 Look at C:\Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
 example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
 master pages...

 If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
 downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
 old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
 sample is in Template pack #1, I think.

Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
that I am using!

So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
for recent versions of FrameMaker?

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Re: PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[John Pilla]

Thanks, 
However:  Generate Tagged PDF is unchecked,(turned off) 
on the TAGS tab of the PDF Set-Up dialog box.
 
~ John ~ 
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MRO Software (An IBM Company) 
Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 
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Foundation Certificate in IT Service Management 
 


John,

You wrote:

HELP!
I am trying to PDF a book.
I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the
PostScript (*.ps) file.
6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . .
..
 



%%[Page: 294]%%
%%[Page: 295]%%
%%[Page: 296]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
A172040.1 ]%%
...

Turn off Generate Tagged PDF in FrameMaker's PDF Setup dialog box, 
Tags tab;
recreate the .ps and distill again.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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PDF comments hiding in FM...

[Art Campbell]

I have a PDF in a FM file imported by reference. Although it contains
several comments (callouts, highlighting, etc.) they don't display in
FM. I know they're on a different layer in the PDF, but I was figuring
if they're visible, they're visible all the time.

I'm going to try opening it in Photoshop and maybe flattening it, but
does anyone have an idea how to make them display in FM? I'd like to
keep them live.

XP SP2
FM 7.2
Acrobat 8

Thanks,
Art


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Re: Can't print from Frame

[Art Campbell]

To amplify Dov's analysis... if you look at the Xerox spec pages for
the 45, they make a subtle point of saying that it uses a PostScript 3
EMULATOR. Not true Adobe PostScript.

As a result of fighting with emulators for years on a variety of H-P
and other Xerox printers, I think that it's a pretty safe bet that the
printer will get squirrely at other interesting times, especially when
printing clean but complex PS code that confuses the emulator.

Art

On 4/5/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tina,

Bubbamisa!

Good try, but absolutely groundless. The optimize for
portability hack was put into the Windows driver to deal
with some applications, FrameMaker NOT being among them,
that injected their own PostScript into the driver's output
stream improperly, interfering with the current graphics
state of the PostScript job. It also makes a bit of a
difference how fonts and procedure definitions (what you
are calling a shorthand version of PostScript are put
into the job, but certainly not how they are used.

If in fact, use of the optimize for portability option
causes something to print that doesn't otherwise print
from FrameMaker, you are dealing with either (1) a very
traif EPS file (EPS file improperly constructed, not
following the rules for EPS files), (2) an otherwise terribly
misconfigured printer driver or print itself or (3) a very
crufty PostScript RIP / printer.

- Dov


 -Original Message-
 From: Tina Poole
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:21 PM
 To: Gillian Flato; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Can't print from Frame

 Hi Gillian

 If you look in your postscript settings on the printer
 dialog there will be an option that says something like
 Optimize for speed change this to Optimize for portability.
 Speed gives a shorthand version of postscript which confuses
 some printers, while portability includes everything (this is
 how it was explained to me not sure if it is correct or not
 but generally fixes the crazy stack errors).


 tina




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Re: PDF comments hiding in FM...

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Art:

Have you tried printing the PDF document with comments, from Acrobat, to 
the Distiller printer? There are several options for 
comment-with-document layouts. Import the one you like to FrameMaker.


FrameMaker doesn't give you control over Acrobat layers; InDesign does, 
but I haven't experimented with the comment layers in InDesign...yet!


HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Art Campbell wrote:

I have a PDF in a FM file imported by reference. Although it contains
several comments (callouts, highlighting, etc.) they don't display in
FM. I know they're on a different layer in the PDF, but I was figuring
if they're visible, they're visible all the time.

I'm going to try opening it in Photoshop and maybe flattening it, but
does anyone have an idea how to make them display in FM? I'd like to
keep them live.


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Re: PDF comments hiding in FM...

[Art Campbell]

No, I haven't tried looping it like that yet, but I bet it'll work.
Flattening and saving in another format works, but I was hoping to
keep the comments alive, so they could be modified on the fly.

Thanks!
Art

On 4/5/07, Peter Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, Art:

Have you tried printing the PDF document with comments, from Acrobat, to
the Distiller printer? There are several options for
comment-with-document layouts. Import the one you like to FrameMaker.

FrameMaker doesn't give you control over Acrobat layers; InDesign does,
but I haven't experimented with the comment layers in InDesign...yet!

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Art Campbell wrote:
 I have a PDF in a FM file imported by reference. Although it contains
 several comments (callouts, highlighting, etc.) they don't display in
 FM. I know they're on a different layer in the PDF, but I was figuring
 if they're visible, they're visible all the time.

 I'm going to try opening it in Photoshop and maybe flattening it, but
 does anyone have an idea how to make them display in FM? I'd like to
 keep them live.





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Can't print from Frame

[Dov Isaacs]

Tina,

Bubbamisa!

Good try, but absolutely groundless. The "optimize for
portability" hack was put into the Windows driver to deal
with some applications, FrameMaker NOT being among them,
that injected their own PostScript into the driver's output
stream improperly, interfering with the current graphics
state of the PostScript job. It also makes a bit of a 
difference how fonts and procedure definitions (what you
are calling "a shorthand version of PostScript" are put 
into the job, but certainly not how they are used.

If in fact, use of the "optimize for portability" option
causes something to print that doesn't otherwise print
from FrameMaker, you are dealing with either (1) a very 
traif EPS file (EPS file improperly constructed, not 
following the rules for EPS files), (2) an otherwise terribly
misconfigured printer driver or print itself or (3) a very 
crufty PostScript RIP / printer.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Tina Poole
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:21 PM
> To: Gillian Flato; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Can't print from Frame
> 
> Hi Gillian
> 
> If you look in your postscript settings on the printer
> dialog there will be an option that says something like
> "Optimize for speed" change this to "Optimize for portability".
> Speed gives a shorthand version of postscript which confuses
> some printers, while portability includes everything (this is
> how it was explained to me not sure if it is correct or not
> but generally fixes the crazy stack errors).
> 
> 
> tina

FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Scott Prentice]

Hi...

I just noticed a couple of good FM deals on eBay.


FrameMaker Server 7.2 Windows - $2,950.00 (save $4000 off retail!)


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem==300097209620

FrameMaker 7.2 Full Version for Windows - $579.95 (save $220 off retail)


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem==110110291360


Disclaimer .. I have no affiliation with these sellers, and know nothing 
about the validity or legality of the items for sale .. as always, do 
your own research to make sure you're getting what you expect.  :)

Cheers!

...scott

Moving book sections to nested folders without losing X refs

[Art Campbell]

Well, first, don't use Explorer.

You may want to use Bruce Foster's Archive plug in to make a safe copy
of the book(s) and all the component parts before you begin.

To do the actual move, open the book files and use the Rename File
tool to rename the component/chapter files, one by one, into the new
folder(s). If you do it this way, cross-refs and such should be
maintained.

Art

On 4/5/07, Kevin Hunter  wrote:
> hi all,
>
> I have two large books that have dozens of cross references to each other. 
> Because of a structural change to our software and the creation of a new 
> sub-version of this application, I'm trying to rearrange the erstwhile book 
> chapters, in both books, into subfolders to keep things a little more 
> organized. Does anyone have any tips on how to move a chapter to a new 
> subfolder (in explorer) in such a way that I don't have to then re-build all 
> my cross references manually?
>
> thanks -
>
> Kevin
>
> ExcelSystems Software Development, Inc.
> BCD International, Inc.
> www.bcdsoftware.com
> kevinh at excelsystems.com
> (250) 655-1766
> Fax: (250) 655-1733
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Bleed off the page

[Drew Little]

I got that part fine, but the tabs stop at the edge of the page. is 
there a way to make the tabs larger than the page size for bleed 
purposes? I am sure it is something rather simple, but for the life 
of me, I can't figure it out.

At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:
>Shouldn't be a big problem.
>
>Look at C:\Program
>Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
>example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
>master pages...
>
>If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
>downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
>old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
>sample is in Template pack #1, I think.
>
>Art
>
>On 4/4/07, Drew Little  wrote:
>>
>> >Hi! I have a rather sizable book with descending thumb tabs on the
>> >side. The printer printing the book needs 1/4" bleeds off the page.
>> >Is there an easy way to do that in FrameMaker 7.2? thanks!
>>
>>___
>
>--
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>Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
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>   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358

Drew Little
Graphic Designer
San Diego State University
Academic Services
Academic Affairs
5500 Campanile Drive
San Diego CA, 92182

Phone 619.594.2966
alittle at mail.sdsu.edu 

Bleed off the page

[Steve Rickaby]

At 08:04 -0700 5/4/07, Drew Little wrote:

>I got that part fine, but the tabs stop at the edge of the page. is there a 
>way to make the tabs larger than the page size for bleed purposes? I am sure 
>it is something rather simple, but for the life of me, I can't figure it out.

Hi Drew... yes, it's quite easy. Work out the visual dimension of the object 
you want to bleed, *add* the bleed to it, and draw that on the master. Position 
it flush to the edge of the page, and then nudge the graphic off the page by an 
amount equal to the size of the bleed.

If you cut PDF onto a larger 'paper' size than your FrameMaker page, and turn 
on trims, you should be able to see the bleeds to check their size and 
positioning.

-- 
Steve

Bleed off the page

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:
> Look at C:\Program
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
> example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
> master pages...
>
> If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
> downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
> old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
> sample is in Template pack #1, I think.

Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
that I am using!

So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
for recent versions of FrameMaker?

Z

FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Chris Borokowski]

Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices always
drop to reduce stock.

--- Scott Prentice  wrote:

> Hi...
> 
> I just noticed a couple of good FM deals on eBay.
> 
> 
> FrameMaker Server 7.2 Windows - $2,950.00 (save
> $4000 off retail!)
> 
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem==300097209620
> 
> FrameMaker 7.2 Full Version for Windows - $579.95
> (save $220 off retail)
> 
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem==110110291360
> 
> 
> Disclaimer .. I have no affiliation with these
> sellers, and know nothing 
> about the validity or legality of the items for sale
> .. as always, do 
> your own research to make sure you're getting what
> you expect.  :)
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> ...scott
> 
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FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Alan Houser]

Just a follow-up to Scott's note -- Adobe's FrameMaker upgrade policy is 
one of the most liberal that I've seen from a major software company. 
You can purchase FrameMaker 7.2 for Windows at the upgrade price of $199 
USD if you have _any_ previous version of FrameMaker or FrameMaker+SGML 
(the UNIX price is slightly higher).

Adobe has publicly stated that a new release of FrameMaker will be 
available this year. If the new version is a major release (e.g., 
FrameMaker 8.0), one can speculate that the upgrade price may be 
substantially higher. As a data point, the upgrade price for FrameMaker 
7.0 was approximately $400 USD.

-Alan

Scott Prentice wrote:
> Hi...
>
> I just noticed a couple of good FM deals on eBay.
>
>
> FrameMaker Server 7.2 Windows - $2,950.00 (save $4000 off retail!)
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem==300097209620
>
> FrameMaker 7.2 Full Version for Windows - $579.95 (save $220 off retail)
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem==110110291360
>
>
> Disclaimer .. I have no affiliation with these sellers, and know 
> nothing about the validity or legality of the items for sale .. as 
> always, do your own research to make sure you're getting what you 
> expect.  :)
>
> Cheers!
>
> ...scott

-- 
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Group Wellesley, Inc.
412-363-3481
www.groupwellesley.com

FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Dov Isaacs]

Make no such assumption, especially when dealing with
eBay. The prices mentioned reflect (1) someone has
genuine product obtained illicitly - use your imagination,
(2) copied CDs with either a "cracked" software version
or stolen serial serial number, or (3) ...
Remember that prices that are too good to be true are the
best indicators of fraud of some type.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Chris Borokowski
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:01 AM
> To: Scott Prentice; 'Framers'; Free Framers List
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...
> 
> Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices always
> drop to reduce stock.
> 
> --- Scott Prentice  wrote:

FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Chris Borokowski]

Good point. Software showing up in droves on eBay, of
a particular package, reflects *a belief* that a new
version is coming soon as merchants clear out their
stock. The guys who show up to computer shows and hawk
their wares on PriceWatch are the ones I'm thinking
of, and a few of them here in H-town have been offer
specials on FrameMaker recently.

(As an aside, they should rename eBay "caveat emptor"
and I never buy software there.)

Thanks for the heads up, Dov!

--- Dov Isaacs  wrote:

> Make no such assumption, especially when dealing
> with
> eBay. The prices mentioned reflect (1) someone has
> genuine product obtained illicitly - use your
> imagination,
> (2) copied CDs with either a "cracked" software
> version
> or stolen serial serial number, or (3) ...
> Remember that prices that are too good to be true
> are the
> best indicators of fraud of some type.
> 
>   - Dov
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:
>
framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> >
>
[mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> >  On Behalf Of Chris Borokowski
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:01 AM
> > To: Scott Prentice; 'Framers'; Free Framers List
> > Subject: Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...
> > 
> > Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices
> always
> > drop to reduce stock.
> > 
> > --- Scott Prentice  wrote:
> 


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Bleed off the page

[Art Campbell]

It doesn't give you an error message, it gives you a prompt asking if
you want to convert the file you're opening to your newer version's
file format. If you do, and if you save the file, then it works in
your newer version the next time you open it. The conversion only
needs to be done once.

On 4/5/07, Syed Zaeem Hosain  wrote:
> At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:
> > Look at C:\Program
> > Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
> > example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
> > master pages...
> >
> > If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
> > downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
> > old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
> > sample is in Template pack #1, I think.
>
> Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
> templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
> executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
> that I am using!
>
> So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
> for recent versions of FrameMaker?
>
> Z
>


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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

FrameMaker deals on eBay...

[Bruce Wolf]

More Words of Wisdom from Dov.

Several years ago a guy scammed me with a FrameMaker
sale via Ebay.  I learned that Adobe was looking for
him for previous scams.

'Nuff Said?

BW 

--- Dov Isaacs  wrote:

> Make no such assumption, especially when dealing
> with
> eBay. The prices mentioned reflect (1) someone has
> genuine product obtained illicitly - use your
> imagination,
> (2) copied CDs with either a "cracked" software
> version
> or stolen serial serial number, or (3) ...
> Remember that prices that are too good to be true
> are the
> best indicators of fraud of some type.
> 
>   - Dov
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:
>
framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> >
>
[mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> >  On Behalf Of Chris Borokowski
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:01 AM
> > To: Scott Prentice; 'Framers'; Free Framers List
> > Subject: Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...
> > 
> > Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices
> always
> > drop to reduce stock.
> > 
> > --- Scott Prentice  wrote:
> 
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PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[John Pilla]

HELP! 
I am trying to PDF a book.
I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the 
PostScript (*.ps) file. 
6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . . 
..
 

%%[Page: 294]%%
%%[Page: 295]%%
%%[Page: 296]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef 
A172040.1 ]%%

Stack:
/ANN
/Custom
/Subtype
[-null- -null- -null-]
/Border
[4700 6073 4738 5988]
/Rect
{A172040.1}
/_objdef
-dict-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
..
 

 
~ John ~ 
Sr. Learning Specialist, Educational Services 
MRO Software (An IBM Company) 
Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 
John.Pilla at us.ibm.com 
 
Maximo 5 Certified, Maximo 6 Certified EAM 
Foundation Certificate in IT Service Management 
 

PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[Shlomo Perets]

John,

You wrote:

>HELP!
>I am trying to PDF a book.
>I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the
>PostScript (*.ps) file.
>6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . .
>..
> 
>
>
>%%[Page: 294]%%
>%%[Page: 295]%%
>%%[Page: 296]%%
>%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
>A172040.1 ]%%
>...

Turn off "Generate Tagged PDF" in FrameMaker's PDF Setup dialog box, Tags tab;
recreate the .ps and distill again.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

Bleed off the page

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Art.

Art Campbell wrote:
> It doesn't give you an error message, it gives you a prompt asking if
> you want to convert the file you're opening to your newer version's
> file format. If you do, and if you save the file, then it works in
> your newer version the next time you open it. The conversion only
> needs to be done once.

Okay ... I will try again because I gave up the last time! :)

Thanks!

Z

> On 4/5/07, Syed Zaeem Hosain  wrote:
>> At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:
>> > Look at C:\Program
>> > Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
>> > example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
>> > master pages...
>> >
>> > If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
>> > downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
>> > old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
>> > sample is in Template pack #1, I think.
>>
>> Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
>> templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
>> executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
>> that I am using!
>>
>> So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
>> for recent versions of FrameMaker?

PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[John Pilla]

Thanks, 
However:  "Generate Tagged PDF" is unchecked,(turned off) 
on the TAGS tab of the PDF Set-Up dialog box.
 
~ John ~ 
Sr. Learning Specialist, Educational Services 
MRO Software (An IBM Company) 
Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 
John.Pilla at us.ibm.com 
 
Maximo 5 Certified, Maximo 6 Certified EAM 
Foundation Certificate in IT Service Management 
 


John,

You wrote:

>HELP!
>I am trying to PDF a book.
>I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the
>PostScript (*.ps) file.
>6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . .
>..
> 

>
>
>%%[Page: 294]%%
>%%[Page: 295]%%
>%%[Page: 296]%%
>%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
>A172040.1 ]%%
>...

Turn off "Generate Tagged PDF" in FrameMaker's PDF Setup dialog box, 
Tags tab;
recreate the .ps and distill again.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[Art Campbell]

What does page 296 (or maybe 297) contain? Maybe a graphic in EPS or
PDF format, or a Visio imported as an OLE object?

Might want to check and see if there's a problem with the graphic; if
you can distill without it present. Or just try to distill that page.

Art


On 4/5/07, John Pilla  wrote:
> HELP!
> I am trying to PDF a book.
> I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the
> PostScript (*.ps) file.
> 6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . .
> ..
>
> %%[Page: 294]%%
> %%[Page: 295]%%
> %%[Page: 296]%%
> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
> A172040.1 ]%%
>


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[John Pilla]

Page 226 & 227 is page 3 & 4 of Chapter 7 (of 8 with two appendices, front 
matter, and a TOC).
I can distill chapter 7 separately and successfully create a PDF.

There are no graphics. on those pages. 
there is however; A cross-reference, which I will delete and recreate, and 
try again.
 
~ John ~ 
Sr. Learning Specialist, Educational Services 
MRO Software (An IBM Company) 
Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 
John.Pilla at us.ibm.com 
 
Maximo 5 Certified, Maximo 6 Certified EAM 
Foundation Certificate in IT Service Management 
 

What does page 296 (or maybe 297) contain? Maybe a graphic in EPS or
PDF format, or a Visio imported as an OLE object?

Might want to check and see if there's a problem with the graphic; if
you can distill without it present. Or just try to distill that page.

Art


On 4/5/07, John Pilla  wrote:
> HELP!
> I am trying to PDF a book.
> I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the
> PostScript (*.ps) file.
> 6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . .
> 
..
>
> %%[Page: 294]%%
> %%[Page: 295]%%
> %%[Page: 296]%%
> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
> A172040.1 ]%%
>

-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

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PS to PDF (Distiller) Error

[John Pilla]

OKay tried that, as well. 
Also tried saving the identified file as MIF, and resaving as FM.

I've got a deadline for the PDF, 
so for now, as a temporary solution, 
I will have to PDF ea file, and then put them back together as one PDF 
using Acrobat.
 
~ John ~ 
Sr. Learning Specialist, Educational Services 
MRO Software (An IBM Company) 
Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 
John.Pilla at us.ibm.com 
 
Maximo 5 Certified, Maximo 6 Certified EAM 
Foundation Certificate in IT Service Management 
 


The PDF Setup you have at the book level may be overridden by some 
chapters. This sometimes also happens with bookmarks, where Hn-TOC items 
in 
the Table of Contents are carried over as bookmarks, even though not 
selected at the book level.

In your book, select all chapters but do not select the top title line, 
then select Format > PDF Setup and change settings as needed. Recreate the 

.ps and distill, and all should be OK.

Shlomo


John Pilla wrote:

>Thanks,
>However:  "Generate Tagged PDF" is unchecked,(turned off)
>on the TAGS tab of the PDF Set-Up dialog box.
>
>~ John ~
>Sr. Learning Specialist, Educational Services
>MRO Software (An IBM Company)
>Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201
>John.Pilla at us.ibm.com
>
>Maximo 5 Certified, Maximo 6 Certified EAM
>Foundation Certificate in IT Service Management
>
>
>John,
>
>You wrote:
>
> >HELP!
> >I am trying to PDF a book.
> >I get an error in trying to create (distill) the PDF file from the
> >PostScript (*.ps) file.
> >6 years ago, I might have remembered how to fix/correct . . . . .
> 
>. 

> 
.
 

> >
> >%%[Page: 294]%%
> >%%[Page: 295]%%
> >%%[Page: 296]%%
> >%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
> >A172040.1 ]%%
> >...
>
>Turn off "Generate Tagged PDF" in FrameMaker's PDF Setup dialog box,
>Tags tab;
>recreate the .ps and distill again.
>
>Shlomo Perets
>
>MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
>FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat
>TimeSavers/Assistants

PDF comments hiding in FM...

[Art Campbell]

I have a PDF in a FM file imported by reference. Although it contains
several comments (callouts, highlighting, etc.) they don't display in
FM. I know they're on a different layer in the PDF, but I was figuring
if they're visible, they're visible all the time.

I'm going to try opening it in Photoshop and maybe flattening it, but
does anyone have an idea how to make them display in FM? I'd like to
keep them "live."

XP SP2
FM 7.2
Acrobat 8

Thanks,
Art


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Can't print from Frame

[Art Campbell]

To amplify Dov's analysis... if you look at the Xerox spec pages for
the 45, they make a subtle point of saying that it uses a PostScript 3
EMULATOR. Not true Adobe PostScript.

As a result of fighting with emulators for years on a variety of H-P
and other Xerox printers, I think that it's a pretty safe bet that the
printer will get squirrely at other interesting times, especially when
printing clean but complex PS code that confuses the emulator.

Art

On 4/5/07, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
> Tina,
>
> Bubbamisa!
>
> Good try, but absolutely groundless. The "optimize for
> portability" hack was put into the Windows driver to deal
> with some applications, FrameMaker NOT being among them,
> that injected their own PostScript into the driver's output
> stream improperly, interfering with the current graphics
> state of the PostScript job. It also makes a bit of a
> difference how fonts and procedure definitions (what you
> are calling "a shorthand version of PostScript" are put
> into the job, but certainly not how they are used.
>
> If in fact, use of the "optimize for portability" option
> causes something to print that doesn't otherwise print
> from FrameMaker, you are dealing with either (1) a very
> traif EPS file (EPS file improperly constructed, not
> following the rules for EPS files), (2) an otherwise terribly
> misconfigured printer driver or print itself or (3) a very
> crufty PostScript RIP / printer.
>
> - Dov
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tina Poole
> > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:21 PM
> > To: Gillian Flato; framers at FrameUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: Can't print from Frame
> >
> > Hi Gillian
> >
> > If you look in your postscript settings on the printer
> > dialog there will be an option that says something like
> > "Optimize for speed" change this to "Optimize for portability".
> > Speed gives a shorthand version of postscript which confuses
> > some printers, while portability includes everything (this is
> > how it was explained to me not sure if it is correct or not
> > but generally fixes the crazy stack errors).
> >
> >
> > tina



-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

PDF comments hiding in FM...

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Art:

Have you tried printing the PDF document with comments, from Acrobat, to 
the Distiller printer? There are several options for 
comment-with-document layouts. Import the one you like to FrameMaker.

FrameMaker doesn't give you control over Acrobat layers; InDesign does, 
but I haven't experimented with the comment layers in InDesign...yet!

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Art Campbell wrote:
> I have a PDF in a FM file imported by reference. Although it contains
> several comments (callouts, highlighting, etc.) they don't display in
> FM. I know they're on a different layer in the PDF, but I was figuring
> if they're visible, they're visible all the time.
>
> I'm going to try opening it in Photoshop and maybe flattening it, but
> does anyone have an idea how to make them display in FM? I'd like to
> keep them "live."

PDF comments hiding in FM...

[Art Campbell]

No, I haven't tried looping it like that yet, but I bet it'll work.
Flattening and saving in another format works, but I was hoping to
keep the comments alive, so they could be modified on the fly.

Thanks!
Art

On 4/5/07, Peter Gold  wrote:
> Hi, Art:
>
> Have you tried printing the PDF document with comments, from Acrobat, to
> the Distiller printer? There are several options for
> comment-with-document layouts. Import the one you like to FrameMaker.
>
> FrameMaker doesn't give you control over Acrobat layers; InDesign does,
> but I haven't experimented with the comment layers in InDesign...yet!
>
> HTH
> 
> Regards,
>
> Peter Gold
> KnowHow ProServices
>
> Art Campbell wrote:
> > I have a PDF in a FM file imported by reference. Although it contains
> > several comments (callouts, highlighting, etc.) they don't display in
> > FM. I know they're on a different layer in the PDF, but I was figuring
> > if they're visible, they're visible all the time.
> >
> > I'm going to try opening it in Photoshop and maybe flattening it, but
> > does anyone have an idea how to make them display in FM? I'd like to
> > keep them "live."
>
>


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358