from:"Judy"

I'm wondering if there's a tool out there that will do a search and 
replace where the replacement is a variable rather than alternate text.  
I have a 1500 page manual where no variables were used. I'd like to 
implement them, but it's painful to think about doing it by manually.


Any ideas would be most welcome.

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Re: Search and replace with variables


Thank you! That's perfect!

Judy Bragg
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On 6/4/2013 8:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
You've already got everything you need in the standard Find/Change. 
Here are the steps:

1) Define a new variable.
2) Manually insert it once into the document
3) Select the instance of the variable you just inserted, and then copy it
4) In the Find/Change dialog set up the find criteria, and in the 
Change box choose By pasting

5) Run the Find/Change

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:15:02 -0400
 From: j...@hypack.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Search and replace with variables

 I'm wondering if there's a tool out there that will do a search and
 replace where the replacement is a variable rather than alternate text.
 I have a 1500 page manual where no variables were used. I'd like to
 implement them, but it's painful to think about doing it by manually.

 Any ideas would be most welcome.

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Search and replace with variables

I'm wondering if there's a tool out there that will do a search and 
replace where the replacement is a variable rather than alternate text.  
I have a 1500 page manual where no variables were used. I'd like to 
implement them, but it's painful to think about doing it by manually.

Any ideas would be most welcome.

-- 

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Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

Search and replace with variables

Thank you! That's perfect!

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

On 6/4/2013 8:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
> You've already got everything you need in the standard Find/Change. 
> Here are the steps:
> 1) Define a new variable.
> 2) Manually insert it once into the document
> 3) Select the instance of the variable you just inserted, and then copy it
> 4) In the Find/Change dialog set up the find criteria, and in the 
> Change box choose "By pasting"
> 5) Run the Find/Change
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
> > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:15:02 -0400
> > From: judy at hypack.com
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Search and replace with variables
> >
> > I'm wondering if there's a tool out there that will do a search and
> > replace where the replacement is a variable rather than alternate text.
> > I have a 1500 page manual where no variables were used. I'd like to
> > implement them, but it's painful to think about doing it by manually.
> >
> > Any ideas would be most welcome.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Judy Bragg
> > Technical Writer
> > HYPACK, Inc.
> > 860-635-1500
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BookMifWash

2013-05-28 Thread Judy Bragg

I understand that Framemaker 11 comes with several Scripts/Utilities, 
one of which is BookMIFWash.  I'm interested in seeing how this works, 
but I haven't been able to find any documentation on it and when I 
attempt to run a script, the program is looking for a javascript file. 
Neither file in the C:\Program Files 
(x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\BookMIFWash 
folder are javascript files.


Can anyone out there please explain what the process is or point me 
toward documentation?


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BookMifWash

2013-05-28 Thread Judy Bragg

I understand that Framemaker 11 comes with several Scripts/Utilities, 
one of which is BookMIFWash.  I'm interested in seeing how this works, 
but I haven't been able to find any documentation on it and when I 
attempt to run a script, the program is looking for a javascript file. 
Neither file in the C:\Program Files 
(x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\BookMIFWash 
folder are javascript files.

Can anyone out there please explain what the process is or point me 
toward documentation?

Thanks so much,

-- 

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Re: Modifying Image Paths

2013-04-25 Thread Judy Bragg

Well, that gives me a few options to choose from.  Thanks so much for 
your help!!


Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

On 4/25/2013 3:32 AM, Harro de Jong wrote:

Judy Bragg



My company is soon to begin working with translation software.
Until now, my images have been filed in a chapter subfolder. Since our images 
will
not be localized, I'm moving the images to a location where they can be accessed
by each language by the same path. That way, I add/change an image once and
everything updates.

The downside...I have to update the paths for all of the images in my current 
English
documentation.  Redefining the path for each image (or every few images) as the
interface asks for it is proving very time-consuming and tedious.

You can use the XtraBookUtils plugin for this.

 http://www.bache.name/sgml.html

According to this page, the plugin is for Frame 5-7, but I've got it working in 
Frame 9.

This will create a list of all the image file paths in a book, you can edit the 
list to reflect the new paths, then the plugin will change the paths.

tip: you can use Find/Replace to replace all the paths.
1. select the second column in the table (column heading 'new reference'), and 
set  Find/Replace to Look in: Selection
2. when replacing a file path, you have to specify it as 
directory//directory2//file.tif   (the / is a control character in this dialog)


Harro de Jong
Triview



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2013-04-25 Thread Judy Bragg

Well, that gives me a few options to choose from.  Thanks so much for 
your help!!

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

On 4/25/2013 3:32 AM, Harro de Jong wrote:
> Judy Bragg
>
>
>> My company is soon to begin working with translation software.
>> Until now, my images have been filed in a chapter subfolder. Since our 
>> images will
>> not be localized, I'm moving the images to a location where they can be 
>> accessed
>> by each language by the same path. That way, I add/change an image once and
>> everything updates.
>>
>> The downside...I have to update the paths for all of the images in my 
>> current English
>> documentation.  Redefining the path for each image (or every few images) as 
>> the
>> interface asks for it is proving very time-consuming and tedious.
> You can use the XtraBookUtils plugin for this.
>
> < http://www.bache.name/sgml.html>
>
> According to this page, the plugin is for Frame 5-7, but I've got it working 
> in Frame 9.
>
> This will create a list of all the image file paths in a book, you can edit 
> the list to reflect the new paths, then the plugin will change the paths.
>
> tip: you can use Find/Replace to replace all the paths.
> 1. select the second column in the table (column heading 'new reference'), 
> and set  Find/Replace to Look in: Selection
> 2. when replacing a file path, you have to specify it as 
> directory//directory2//file.tif   (the / is a control character in this 
> dialog)
>
>
> Harro de Jong
> Triview

Modifying Image Paths

2013-04-24 Thread Judy Bragg

This message was originally HTML formatted.  View in a HTML capable client to 
see the original version.\r\n\r\nMy company is soon to begin working with 
translation software.
Until now, my images have been filed in a chapter subfolder. Since ourimages 
will not be localized, I'm moving the images to a location wherethey can be 
accessed by each language by the same path. That way, Iadd/change an image once 
and everything updates.

The downside...I have to update the paths for all of the images in mycurrent 
English documentation.  Redefining the path for each image (orevery few images) 
as the interface asks for it is proving verytime-consuming and tedious.

I'm using TCS4 (FM11) on a Win7 PC. My documents typically have textinsets, 
images by reference, cross-references and index markers.

This morning, I thought I'd investigate whether the Insets pod would be of any 
help.  I've never used it for anything before
 and, curiously, when I opened it today there's nothing in it. (Not eventhe 
toolbar pictured in the Help files.) The same thing happens withthe Reference 
pod.  The markers pod is populated.

Trying to get anything in the Insets and Reference pods, I've triedselecting a 
single inset, the full document content, the full bookcontent...nothing!

If anyone has suggestions to speed things along, using pods or by some other 
method, I'd love to hear from you!
Thanks!


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This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to
see the original version.\r\n\r\nMy company is soon to begin working with
translation software.
Until now, my images have been filed in a chapter subfolder. Since ourimages
will not be localized, I'm moving the images to a location wherethey can be
accessed by each language by the same path. That way, Iadd/change an image once
and everything updates.

The downside...I have to update the paths for all of the images in mycurrent
English documentation. Redefining the path for each image (orevery few images)
as the interface asks for it is proving verytime-consuming and tedious.

I'm using TCS4 (FM11) on a Win7 PC. My documents typically have textinsets,
images by reference, cross-references and index markers.

This morning, I thought I'd investigate whether the Insets pod would be of any
help. I've never used it for anything before
and, curiously, when I opened it today there's nothing in it. (Not eventhe
toolbar pictured in the Help files.) The same thing happens withthe Reference
pod. The markers pod is populated.

Trying to get anything in the Insets and Reference pods, I've triedselecting a
single inset, the full document content, the full bookcontent...nothing!

If anyone has suggestions to speed things along, using pods or by some other
method, I'd love to hear from you!
Thanks!

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Re: Pagination FM 11

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see the original version.\r\n\r\nHarro and Rebecca,
It looks like you're onto something. 

When I change my printer to Adobe PDF with the offending FM open, I get a 
warning about changing fonts. When I say [OK], the FM display of the document 
matches the PDF output from before with the table all on one page instead of 
split across a page break.

In the past, I think I'd used a handy little utility someone had posted that 
automatically set my printer to Adobe PDF when I opened Framemaker. That was 
when I was in FM10 so I wouldn't have had this problem then, but I recently 
upgraded so FM 11 is not set that way.  

When I have some spare time, I'll have to look for that little program again 
and learn a bit more about changing fonts.

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It looks like you're onto something. 

When I change my printer to Adobe PDF with the "offending" FM open, I get a 
warning about changing fonts. When I say [OK], the FM display of the document 
matches the PDF output from before with the table all on one page instead of 
split across a page break.

In the past, I think I'd used a handy little utility someone had posted that 
automatically set my printer to Adobe PDF when I opened Framemaker. That was 
when I was in FM10 so I wouldn't have had this problem then, but I recently 
upgraded so FM 11 is not set that way.  

When I have some spare time, I'll have to look for that little program again 
and learn a bit more about changing fonts.

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Re: Pagination FM 11

I really appreciate all of your input so far.  Thank you! Unfortunately, 
we haven't yet found the answer. I did trip over something that may 
click with someone though.


In each case, if I change the conditional settings to Show All and set 
the pagination settings to Next Available [Page] and Delete Empty 
Pages, I don't have the blank pages at the end. When I change the 
conditional settings to show only the conditions appropriate to the PDF, 
I get the blank pages in the FM as well as the PDF. I can see the 
pilcrow marking the end of the document so I don't know what FM thinks 
is beyond that point.


Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

On 1/30/2013 4:07 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
Ah, if I understand correctly, the problem is with your FM pagination 
settings. Your files may need to have Format  Page Layout  
Pagination settings changed to Don't Change Page Count. I'm not sure 
whether Double or Single-Sided is best for your purposes…your mileage 
may vary!





/-Matt/

*Matt Sullivan*
/technical communication | online training | eLearning/
*
**twitter: *@mattrsullivan http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan
*phone:* 714 960-6840

On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Judy Bragg j...@hypack.com 
mailto:j...@hypack.com wrote:


I know the pages won't concantenate, but I would like the blank pages 
@ the end of each FM to be deleted so there's no more than a partial 
page blank before the next Heading 1.


The reason there are so many fm's is because, when I first started 
out (and there's no way to know how much was user error, software or 
hardware limitations, but...) any file size over, I think just under 
1Mb, tended to crash the system.  I'd consider combining them all now 
but that would break a WHOLE lot of links!  I'll think about it, but 
I'm too close to deadline to rearrange anything now.


(Please write faster! Waiting to see your book! ;-)  )
Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500
On 1/30/2013 3:36 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
I see extreme page breaks (as on p177 of the PDF), but no empty 
pages. Are you trying to get the pages to concatenate?


If so, I recommend combining the files into one FM file per chapter. 
There's no way to have a new FM file start at the end of the 
previous file without creating a text inset.


The folder structure you're using in the book file is intended for 
sectioning and volume control, not for segmenting at the chapter level.




An interesting note: (I was just writing this up in my book today…) 
Right-click on the Prep folder, and notice that there is the ability 
to name the section (uses the $chaptertitle variable), and to 
indicate the template file that should be used to create the divider 
page within your book.



/-Matt/

*Matt Sullivan*
/technical communication | online training | eLearning/
*
**twitter: *@mattrsullivan http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan
*phone:* 714 960-6840

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2013 Release Partial2.pdf








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And the answer is...

Thanks to some super-sleuthing by Rick Quatro the causes have been found.
One document had a stray, empty text box that was preventing the 
deletion of the extra pages.


The other included an inset with a table. In FrameMaker 11 it splits 
across 2 pages (a header row and 2 body rows flow to the second page), 
but in the PDF it stays all on one page which affects the pagination of 
the remaining pages in the document so another blank page results, 
apparently after extra pages have been deleted.  I'll have to follow 
up with Adobe on this one, I guess.


Thanks to all of you for your willingness to help.

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

On 1/31/2013 10:14 AM, Combs, Richard wrote:

Judy Bragg wrote:
  

In each case, if I change the conditional settings to Show All and set the
pagination settings to Next Available [Page] and Delete Empty Pages, I
don't have the blank pages at the end.  When I change the conditional settings
to show only the conditions appropriate to the PDF, I get the blank pages in
the FM as well as the PDF. I can see the pilcrow marking the end of the
document so I don't know what FM thinks is beyond that point.

Did you save after changing the condition settings? If that doesn't help, try 
manually deleting the empty pages (Special  Delete Pages). Is it possible that 
there's some unobvious conditionalized object, as Anita suggested?

Are you sure your pagination and start on settings aren't the culprit? IIRC, you said 
chapter titles are set to start on a new page -- are you sure it's not start on right 
page or start on left page? Look critically at the files with the blank pages 
-- and at the files that follow them. More often than not, blank pages are the result of 
some conflict in the pagination / start on / keep with settings.


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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I really appreciate all of your input so far.  Thank you! Unfortunately, 
we haven't yet found the answer. I did trip over something that may 
"click" with someone though.

In each case, if I change the conditional settings to "Show All" and set 
the pagination settings to "Next Available [Page]" and "Delete Empty 
Pages", I don't have the blank pages at the end. When I change the 
conditional settings to show only the conditions appropriate to the PDF, 
I get the blank pages in the FM as well as the PDF. I can see the 
pilcrow marking the end of the document so I don't know what FM thinks 
is beyond that point.

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

On 1/30/2013 4:07 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> Ah, if I understand correctly, the problem is with your FM pagination 
> settings. Your files may need to have Format > Page Layout > 
> Pagination settings changed to Don't Change Page Count. I'm not sure 
> whether Double or Single-Sided is best for your purposes?your mileage 
> may vary!
>
>
>
>
> /-Matt/
>
> *Matt Sullivan*
> /technical communication | online training | eLearning/
> *
> **twitter: *@mattrsullivan <http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan>
> *phone:* 714 960-6840
>
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Judy Bragg  <mailto:judy at hypack.com>> wrote:
>
>> I know the pages won't concantenate, but I would like the blank pages 
>> @ the end of each FM to be deleted so there's no more than a partial 
>> page blank before the next Heading 1.
>>
>> The reason there are so many fm's is because, when I first started 
>> out (and there's no way to know how much was user error, software or 
>> hardware limitations, but...) any file size over, I think just under 
>> 1Mb, tended to crash the system.  I'd consider combining them all now 
>> but that would break a WHOLE lot of links!  I'll think about it, but 
>> I'm too close to deadline to rearrange anything now.
>>
>> (Please write faster! Waiting to see your book! ;-)  )
>> Judy Bragg
>> Technical Writer
>> HYPACK, Inc.
>> 860-635-1500
>> On 1/30/2013 3:36 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>>> I see extreme page breaks (as on p177 of the PDF), but no empty 
>>> pages. Are you trying to get the pages to "concatenate"?
>>>
>>> If so, I recommend combining the files into one FM file per chapter. 
>>> There's no way to have a new FM file start at the end of the 
>>> previous file without creating a text inset.
>>>
>>> The folder structure you're using in the book file is intended for 
>>> sectioning and volume control, not for segmenting at the chapter level.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> An interesting note: (I was just writing this up in my book today?) 
>>> Right-click on the Prep folder, and notice that there is the ability 
>>> to name the section (uses the $chaptertitle variable), and to 
>>> indicate the template file that should be used to create the divider 
>>> page within your book.
>>>
>>>
>>> /-Matt/
>>>
>>> *Matt Sullivan*
>>> /technical communication | online training | eLearning/
>>> *
>>> **twitter: *@mattrsullivan <http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan>
>>> *phone:* 714 960-6840
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Judy Bragg >> <mailto:judy at hypack.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <2013 Release Partial2.pdf>
>>>
>>
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Pagination FM 11

And the answer is...

Thanks to some "super-sleuthing" by Rick Quatro the causes have been found.
One document had a stray, empty text box that was preventing the 
deletion of the extra pages.

The other included an inset with a table. In FrameMaker 11 it splits 
across 2 pages (a header row and 2 body rows flow to the second page), 
but in the PDF it stays all on one page which affects the pagination of 
the remaining pages in the document so another blank page results, 
apparently after "extra pages" have been deleted.  I'll have to follow 
up with Adobe on this one, I guess.

Thanks to all of you for your willingness to help.

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

On 1/31/2013 10:14 AM, Combs, Richard wrote:
> Judy Bragg wrote:
>   
>> In each case, if I change the conditional settings to "Show All" and set the
>> pagination settings to "Next Available [Page]" and "Delete Empty Pages", I
>> don't have the blank pages at the end.  When I change the conditional 
>> settings
>> to show only the conditions appropriate to the PDF, I get the blank pages in
>> the FM as well as the PDF. I can see the pilcrow marking the end of the
>> document so I don't know what FM thinks is beyond that point.
> Did you save after changing the condition settings? If that doesn't help, try 
> manually deleting the empty pages (Special > Delete Pages). Is it possible 
> that there's some unobvious conditionalized object, as Anita suggested?
>
> Are you sure your pagination and start on settings aren't the culprit? IIRC, 
> you said chapter titles are set to start on a new page -- are you sure it's 
> not start on right page or start on left page? Look critically at the files 
> with the "blank" pages -- and at the files that follow them. More often than 
> not, blank pages are the result of some conflict in the pagination / start on 
> / keep with settings.
>
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Pagination FM 11

2013-01-30 Thread Judy Bragg

I'm trying to generate a PDF of my document. The book includes several 
fm documents distributed through several folders.


Each folder is a chapter and, except for the 1st in each chapter which 
starts with a ChapterTitle paragraph (starts top of page). Each fm in 
the chapter after that is a section beginning with Heading 1 (formatted 
to start anywhere).


/Through the book/, I've set the pagination settings for all but the 1st 
document in each chapter to print double-sided, starting on the next 
available page and delete empty pages.  (The first document in each 
chapter starts on the right.)


The problem: I have 3 fm's that don't delete the pages when I render the 
PDF.


What am I missing?

(Running FM11 on Windows 7)


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Pagination FM 11

2013-01-30 Thread Judy Bragg

I'm trying to generate a PDF of my document. The book includes several 
fm documents distributed through several folders.

Each folder is a chapter and, except for the 1st in each chapter which 
starts with a ChapterTitle paragraph (starts top of page). Each fm in 
the chapter after that is a section beginning with Heading 1 (formatted 
to start anywhere).

/Through the book/, I've set the pagination settings for all but the 1st 
document in each chapter to print double-sided, starting on the next 
available page and delete empty pages.  (The first document in each 
chapter starts on the right.)

The problem: I have 3 fm's that don't delete the pages when I render the 
PDF.

What am I missing?

(Running FM11 on Windows 7)


-- 

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Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
860-635-1500

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RE: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book file

2013-01-26 Thread Judy Chen

All of the files within the book already had the conditions and
conditionalized text but most of the files did not recognize the
presence of a particular condition I needed to turn on.  What I did was
import the conditional tag settings from one of the correctly behaving
files within the book to all the other files in the book, and that seems
to have solved that problem!  

 

Thanks.

 

Judy Chen

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harro de Jong
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book 
file

 

IIRC Frame uses the conditions from the first file in the book to create
that dialog. Can you import the conditions from your chapter to the
first file in the book? 

 


Harro de Jong

Triview

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy Chen
Sent: vrijdag 25 januari 2013 1:07
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book  file

 

Hello,

 

If someone could please help me, I'm having trouble turning on one
specific conditional tag within my Frame 9 book and files.  The properly
conditionalized text does exist in the file (exists in all the files
within this book), but for some reason, the tag is not showing up in my
Show/Hide Conditional Text work window so I cannot apply it/turn it
on.  I have worked successfully with conditionalized text in several
books and files and this is the first time this has happened.  Help?

 

Thanks.

 

Judy Chen

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RE: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book file

2013-01-26 Thread Judy Chen

I selected all the files within the book before trying to turn on the
specific conditional tag, but also tried with individual files. In both
instances, the specific conditional tag remained unavailable to turn on
(either in the book or for most of the files within that book).  

However, the matter is resolved per my other email... I imported the
conditional tag settings from one of the correctly behaving files
within the book to all the other files in the book, and that seems to
have solved that problem!  

Thanks.

Judy Chen
949-453-7184


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From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:40 AM
To: Judy Chen; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book 
file

Are you selecting all the documents in the book before using Show/Hide
Conditional Text?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Judy Chen judy.c...@lantronix.com
wrote:
 If someone could please help me, I'm having trouble turning on one 
 specific conditional tag within my Frame 9 book and files.  The 
 properly conditionalized text does exist in the file (exists in all 
 the files within this book), but for some reason, the tag is not 
 showing up in my Show/Hide Conditional Text work window so I cannot 
 apply it/turn it on.  I have worked successfully with conditionalized 
 text in several books and files and this is the first time this has
happened.  Help?
 
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Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book & file

2013-01-25 Thread Judy Chen

All of the files within the book already had the conditions and
conditionalized text but most of the files did not recognize the
presence of a particular condition I needed to turn on.  What I did was
import the conditional tag settings from one of the "correctly behaving"
files within the book to all the other files in the book, and that seems
to have solved that problem!  



Thanks.



Judy Chen



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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book &
file



IIRC Frame uses the conditions from the first file in the book to create
that dialog. Can you import the conditions from your chapter to the
first file in the book? 




Harro de Jong

Triview



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Sent: vrijdag 25 januari 2013 1:07
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book & file



Hello,



If someone could please help me, I'm having trouble turning on one
specific conditional tag within my Frame 9 book and files.  The properly
conditionalized text does exist in the file (exists in all the files
within this book), but for some reason, the tag is not showing up in my
"Show/Hide Conditional Text" work window so I cannot apply it/turn it
on.  I have worked successfully with conditionalized text in several
books and files and this is the first time this has happened.  Help?



Thanks.



Judy Chen

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Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book & file

2013-01-25 Thread Judy Chen

I selected all the files within the book before trying to turn on the
specific conditional tag, but also tried with individual files. In both
instances, the specific conditional tag remained unavailable to turn on
(either in the book or for most of the files within that book).  

However, the matter is resolved per my other email... I imported the
conditional tag settings from one of the "correctly behaving" files
within the book to all the other files in the book, and that seems to
have solved that problem!  

Thanks.

Judy Chen
949-453-7184

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From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:40 AM
To: Judy Chen; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book &
file

Are you selecting all the documents in the book before using Show/Hide
Conditional Text?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Judy Chen 
wrote:
> If someone could please help me, I'm having trouble turning on one 
> specific conditional tag within my Frame 9 book and files.  The 
> properly conditionalized text does exist in the file (exists in all 
> the files within this book), but for some reason, the tag is not 
> showing up in my "Show/Hide Conditional Text" work window so I cannot 
> apply it/turn it on.  I have worked successfully with conditionalized 
> text in several books and files and this is the first time this has
happened.  Help?

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Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book file

2013-01-24 Thread Judy Chen

Hello,

 

If someone could please help me, I'm having trouble turning on one
specific conditional tag within my Frame 9 book and files.  The properly
conditionalized text does exist in the file (exists in all the files
within this book), but for some reason, the tag is not showing up in my
Show/Hide Conditional Text work window so I cannot apply it/turn it
on.  I have worked successfully with conditionalized text in several
books and files and this is the first time this has happened.  Help?

 

Thanks.

 

Judy Chen
 
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Help? Disappearing Conditional Tag in FrameMaker 9 book & file

2013-01-24 Thread Judy Chen

Hello,



If someone could please help me, I'm having trouble turning on one
specific conditional tag within my Frame 9 book and files.  The properly
conditionalized text does exist in the file (exists in all the files
within this book), but for some reason, the tag is not showing up in my
"Show/Hide Conditional Text" work window so I cannot apply it/turn it
on.  I have worked successfully with conditionalized text in several
books and files and this is the first time this has happened.  Help?



Thanks.



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Re: Scripting for FM10

2011-08-16 Thread Judy

Thanks to all who responded to my post last week.  I sure have a lot to 
learn!

Judy

On 8/8/2011 2:54 PM, Veronica Kutt wrote:

Hi Judy,

There is a plug-in product called FrameScript that you can learn to write
scripts to automate your repetitive tasks. Rick Quattro is the FrameScript
guru who has available scripts to purchase and/or who can develop scripts
for you.

Visit Rick's website at

http://www.frameexpert.com/index.htm

You can purchase FrameScript at Finite Matters http://www.framescript.com/
The cost of the plug-in is only $149.95 US per license

HTH,


Sincerely,

Veronica Kütt
President
Front Runner Training, a Div. of Front Runner Publishing Solutions Inc.
416-515-0155
Call Toll free: 1-877-999-0155
veron...@front-runner.com
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Sent: August-08-11 2:43 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Scripting for FM10

Fellow Framers,

I'm interested in learning to write scripts to run in Framemaker to
automate/eliminate some of those tedious, repetitive tasks that seem to
crop up.

I've been reading about Javascript on the W3Schools site and I found the
Adobe Introduction to Scripting document, which is a good start, but I
need more particularly about scripting in FM (I think).  In this Adobe
document, it states Adobe provides scripting references for many
applications. The references are located on you installation CD.,
however I downloaded my software online. There is no installation CD.

Does anyone have information about this set of documentation? Other
recommendations for information to get me on my way?

Thanks for your help.
Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
j...@hypack.com

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Scripting for FM10

2011-08-16 Thread Judy

Thanks to all who responded to my post last week.  I sure have a lot to 
learn!
Judy

On 8/8/2011 2:54 PM, Veronica Kutt wrote:
> Hi Judy,
>
> There is a plug-in product called FrameScript that you can learn to write
> scripts to automate your repetitive tasks. Rick Quattro is the FrameScript
> guru who has available scripts to purchase and/or who can develop scripts
> for you.
>
> Visit Rick's website at
>
> http://www.frameexpert.com/index.htm
>
> You can purchase FrameScript at Finite Matters http://www.framescript.com/
> The cost of the plug-in is only $149.95 US per license
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Veronica K?tt
> President
> Front Runner Training, a Div. of Front Runner Publishing Solutions Inc.
> 416-515-0155
> Call Toll free: 1-877-999-0155
> veronica at front-runner.com
> www.front-runner.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: August-08-11 2:43 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Scripting for FM10
>
> Fellow Framers,
>
> I'm interested in learning to write scripts to run in Framemaker to
> automate/eliminate some of those tedious, repetitive tasks that seem to
> crop up.
>
> I've been reading about Javascript on the W3Schools site and I found the
> "Adobe Introduction to Scripting" document, which is a good start, but I
> need more particularly about scripting in FM (I think).  In this Adobe
> document, it states "Adobe provides scripting references for many
> applications. The references are located on you installation CD.",
> however I downloaded my software online. There is no installation CD.
>
> Does anyone have information about this set of documentation? Other
> recommendations for information to get me on my way?
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Judy Bragg
> Technical Writer
> HYPACK, Inc.
> judy at hypack.com
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Scripting for FM10

2011-08-08 Thread Judy


Fellow Framers,

I'm interested in learning to write scripts to run in Framemaker to 
automate/eliminate some of those tedious, repetitive tasks that seem to 
crop up.


I've been reading about Javascript on the W3Schools site and I found the 
Adobe Introduction to Scripting document, which is a good start, but I 
need more particularly about scripting in FM (I think).  In this Adobe 
document, it states Adobe provides scripting references for many 
applications. The references are located on you installation CD., 
however I downloaded my software online. There is no installation CD.


Does anyone have information about this set of documentation? Other 
recommendations for information to get me on my way?


Thanks for your help.
Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
j...@hypack.com

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Scripting for FM10

2011-08-08 Thread Judy

Fellow Framers,

I'm interested in learning to write scripts to run in Framemaker to 
automate/eliminate some of those tedious, repetitive tasks that seem to 
crop up.

I've been reading about Javascript on the W3Schools site and I found the 
"Adobe Introduction to Scripting" document, which is a good start, but I 
need more particularly about scripting in FM (I think).  In this Adobe 
document, it states "Adobe provides scripting references for many 
applications. The references are located on you installation CD.", 
however I downloaded my software online. There is no installation CD.

Does anyone have information about this set of documentation? Other 
recommendations for information to get me on my way?

Thanks for your help.
Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
HYPACK, Inc.
judy at hypack.com

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2009-08-18 Thread Judy Bragg

I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a hotspot 
that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done just in 
time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. support.
Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program.  My 
problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.  I can 
select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic frame in 
which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts of the 
flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only property 
and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.  Unfortunately, 
when (according to the status of the button) the document should be editable, I 
still can't edit my flow chart.
Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
Judy Bragg
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Re: View Only

2009-08-18 Thread Judy

Peter,
You win the prize!  I had a text frame covering the entire chart.  I 
often inadvertently copy by continuing to hold the Ctrl key while I 
attempt to move a frame.  I'm sure that must've happened and I didn't 
notice.

Thanks for solving the mystery and saving me a ton of time!
Judy

Peter Gold wrote:
 Is it possible that either you've imported the PDF of the chart into
 the frame that held the drawn graphic chart, or you've inadvertently
 copied a frame on top of the frame that contains the chart? I suspect
 this happened when you dragged the frame on the master page, if, while
 you held Ctrl to change the text pointer to the graphic pointer in
 order to select the frame, you dragged the frame with Ctrl still
 pressed.

 HTH

 Regards,

 Peter
 __
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 KnowHow ProServices

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Art Campbellart.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Try keying in:
   Esc F l k

 the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should
 see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file.

 If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off.

 Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Braggj...@hypack.com wrote:
 
 I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
 Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a 
 hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done 
 just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. 
 support.
 Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program. 
  My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.  I 
 can select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic 
 frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts 
 of the flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only 
 property and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.  
 Unfortunately, when (according to the status of the button) the document 
 should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart.
 Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
 Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
 Judy Bragg
 Technical Writer
 Hypack, Inc.
 j...@hypack.com
   


   
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2009-08-18 Thread Judy

Peter,
You win the prize!  I had a text frame covering the entire chart.  I 
often inadvertently copy by continuing to hold the Ctrl key while I 
attempt to move a frame.  I'm sure that must've happened and I didn't 
notice.

Thanks for solving the mystery and saving me a ton of time!
Judy

Peter Gold wrote:
> Is it possible that either you've imported the PDF of the chart into
> the frame that held the drawn graphic chart, or you've inadvertently
> copied a frame on top of the frame that contains the chart? I suspect
> this happened when you dragged the frame on the master page, if, while
> you held Ctrl to change the text pointer to the graphic pointer in
> order to select the frame, you dragged the frame with Ctrl still
> pressed.
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> __
> Peter Gold
> KnowHow ProServices
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Art Campbell 
> wrote:
>   
>> Try keying in:
>>   Esc F l k
>>
>> the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should
>> see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file.
>>
>> If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off.
>>
>> Art Campbell
>>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>>  No disclaimers apply.
>>   DoD 358
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Bragg wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
>>> Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a 
>>> hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done 
>>> just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. 
>>> support.
>>> Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program. 
>>>  My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.  I 
>>> can select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic 
>>> frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts 
>>> of the flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only 
>>> property and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.  
>>> Unfortunately, when (according to the status of the button) the document 
>>> should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart.
>>> Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
>>> Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
>>> Judy Bragg
>>> Technical Writer
>>> Hypack, Inc.
>>> judy at hypack.com
>>>   
>
>
>

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2009-08-14 Thread Judy Bragg

I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.? Each step is a hotspot 
that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.? I got it done just in 
time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. support.
Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program.? My 
problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.? I can 
select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic frame in 
which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts of the 
flowchart itself.? I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only property 
and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.? Unfortunately, 
when (according to the status of the button) the document should be editable, I 
still can't edit my flow chart.
Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
Hypack, Inc.
judy at hypack.com

Re: Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-02 Thread Judy

I'm in Unstructured Frame and doubt I'll be moving to structured any 
time soon. 

I'll contemplate a different template for the quckstarts. It may be the 
best solution in spite of the still unconventional outline structure.  
(My 3rd grade language arts teacher wouldn't approve of a level 2 
Heading w/ only 1 level 3 child! ;-p )

thanks!


Matt Sullivan wrote:
 Hi Jenny,

 Interesting predicament...

 I believe this nesting will be more for print purposes than Help, if I read
 your post correctly.

 If you are using structured Frame, the concept of conditionalizing your
 extra layers of structure will be pretty straightforward. The context
 formatting in the EDD could adjust on the fly when structure is
 conditionalized

 If using structured Frame is not an option, you might explore having a
 QuickStart template and a Full Manual Template that make the headings appear
 correct without actually changing the para tags.


 -Matt

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 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Topic changes heading levels

 I'm using Tech. Comm. Suite ( FM8 ver. 8.0p277  RH7 ver. 7.02.001) to
 generate multiple user manuals (a full manual and 3 quickstarts) as well as
 CHM Help files.  (Windows XP SP3 if it matters.)

 The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more than 1
 output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in the full
 manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.

 I've thought about:
  - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref issues.
  - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are entered
 directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work, but I'm not
 sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any ideas?

 Judy Bragg
 Technical Writer
 Hypack, Inc.
 j...@hypack,com



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Re: Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-02 Thread Judy

Art and Richard both recommended the idea of insetting topic body text 
between the headings in a container doc.  My biggest qualm about using 
container docs with all of the headings then insetting the body text is 
the sheer number of insets. 

I recently tried breaking my doc set into topic-sized fm docs, then 
building the different outputs with the topic fm's as insets to a 
chapter container.  It worked great w/ 1 chapter, but when I tested it 
with the first 3 chapters, FM couldn't handle it.  (50% CPU usage  on a 
2 Ghz CPU w/ 2Gb RAM and only FM was open. Plenty of hard drive space 
too.) I may be able to compromise, in this case, and inset only those 
whose headings change though.

Ted also suggested a tool by Silicon Prairie Software that uses mapping 
tables to convert 1 para style to another.  It sounds like I could keep 
a book of those topics whose headings need to shift levels and use this 
tool to set the correct heading level before generating the final 
output.  That sounds easy enough. Does anyone see any gotchas with 
that approach?

Thank you all for your thoughts on this question. I always learn so much 
from you on this list and I appreciate the time you take to make it what 
it is.  I hope someday, I'll have gained enough experience and wisdom to 
return the favor.
Judy

Combs, Richard wrote:
 Judy wrote: 
  
   
 The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more
 than 1 output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in
 the full manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.

 I've thought about:
  - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref
 
 issues.
   
  - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are
 entered directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work,
 but I'm not sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any
 
 ideas?

 By all means, put the headings in the container and only the body text
 in the text inset source. Even in the absence of your heading-level
 conflict, this is a pretty good idea. Cross-references to pgfs inside a
 text inset are a pain. Keeping the section headings in the container doc
 lets you point xrefs to those headings. 

 I prefer to have the section headings in the container doc and only the
 content under them in the text inset source. Haven't seen a downside.
 YMMV, of course... 

 Richard


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Re: Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-02 Thread Judy

If I did every topic separately and added more for chunks smaller than a 
topic, I'd be around 1000. 
I'm the lone writer so I don't work on the network.  My current work is 
always local (regular backups made to other locations of course!) so  
that's not part of the speed problem.  All I know is when I built a book 
with 3 chapter files that had a total of about 300 insets, everything 
slowed *way* down and FM was all I had running!

Richard has suggested that I keep fewer fm files, each with multiple 
insets in different flows.  That would simplify opening/closing files as 
well as organizing so many files so that I can find them easily.

I've also begun putting some of these topics back together because, at 
least for now, they all appear together in all outputs.  There's no real 
reason to keep them all individually.

I think I have to assimilate all of these ideas and give those first 3 
chapters another try!
Thanks so much!
Judy

Art Campbell wrote:
 Judy, so how many insets is that? Tens, or hundreds, or thousands?

 To me, 50% utilization isn't much and I wouldn't be concerned... but
 when you start juggling hundreds of files, there's a corresponding hit
 on the operating system and network traffic; it's larger than just in
 FM. Within FM, you can also pick up some speed if you toggle automatic
 updating of the insets to Off, if you can -- probably depends on how
 often the content of the insets changes.

 Art

 Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
   ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
   No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358



 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Judy j...@hypack.com wrote:
   
 Art and Richard both recommended the idea of insetting topic body text
 between the headings in a container doc.  My biggest qualm about using
 container docs with all of the headings then insetting the body text is the
 sheer number of insets.
 I recently tried breaking my doc set into topic-sized fm docs, then building
 the different outputs with the topic fm's as insets to a chapter container.
  It worked great w/ 1 chapter, but when I tested it with the first 3
 chapters, FM couldn't handle it.  (50% CPU usage  on a 2 Ghz CPU w/ 2Gb RAM
 and only FM was open. Plenty of hard drive space too.) I may be able to
 compromise, in this case, and inset only those whose headings change though.

 Ted also suggested a tool by Silicon Prairie Software that uses mapping
 tables to convert 1 para style to another.  It sounds like I could keep a
 book of those topics whose headings need to shift levels and use this tool
 to set the correct heading level before generating the final output.  That
 sounds easy enough. Does anyone see any gotchas with that approach?

 Thank you all for your thoughts on this question. I always learn so much
 from you on this list and I appreciate the time you take to make it what it
 is.  I hope someday, I'll have gained enough experience and wisdom to return
 the favor.
 Judy

 Combs, Richard wrote:
 
 Judy wrote:
   
 The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more
 than 1 output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in
 the full manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.

 I've thought about:
  - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref

 
 issues.

   
  - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are
 entered directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work,
 but I'm not sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any

 
 ideas?

 By all means, put the headings in the container and only the body text
 in the text inset source. Even in the absence of your heading-level
 conflict, this is a pretty good idea. Cross-references to pgfs inside a
 text inset are a pain. Keeping the section headings in the container doc
 lets you point xrefs to those headings.
 I prefer to have the section headings in the container doc and only the
 content under them in the text inset source. Haven't seen a downside.
 YMMV, of course...
 Richard


 Richard G. Combs
 Senior Technical Writer
 Polycom, Inc.
 richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
 303-223-5111
 --
 rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-02 Thread Judy

I'm in Unstructured Frame and doubt I'll be moving to structured any 
time soon. 

I'll contemplate a different template for the quckstarts. It may be the 
best solution in spite of the still unconventional outline structure.  
(My 3rd grade language arts teacher wouldn't approve of a level 2 
Heading w/ only 1 level 3 child! ;-p )

thanks!


Matt Sullivan wrote:
> Hi Jenny,
>
> Interesting predicament...
>
> I believe this nesting will be more for print purposes than Help, if I read
> your post correctly.
>
> If you are using structured Frame, the concept of conditionalizing your
> extra layers of structure will be pretty straightforward. The context
> formatting in the EDD could adjust on the fly when structure is
> conditionalized
>
> If using structured Frame is not an option, you might explore having a
> QuickStart template and a Full Manual Template that make the headings appear
> correct without actually changing the para tags.
>
>
> -Matt
>
> Matt Sullivan
> GRAFIX Training
>
> matt at roundpeg.com
> www.roundpeg.com
> Office 714 960-6840
> Cell & text 714 585-2335
> SMS message 7145852335 at vtext.com
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 9:26 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Topic changes heading levels
>
> I'm using Tech. Comm. Suite ( FM8 ver. 8.0p277 & RH7 ver. 7.02.001) to
> generate multiple user manuals (a full manual and 3 quickstarts) as well as
> CHM Help files.  (Windows XP SP3 if it matters.)
>
> The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more than 1
> output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in the full
> manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.
>
> I've thought about:
>  - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref issues.
>  - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are entered
> directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work, but I'm not
> sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any ideas?
>
> Judy Bragg
> Technical Writer
> Hypack, Inc.
> judy at hypack,com
>
>
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Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-02 Thread Judy

Art and Richard both recommended the idea of insetting topic body text 
between the headings in a container doc.  My biggest qualm about using 
container docs with all of the headings then insetting the body text is 
the sheer number of insets. 

I recently tried breaking my doc set into topic-sized fm docs, then 
building the different outputs with the topic fm's as insets to a 
chapter container.  It worked great w/ 1 chapter, but when I tested it 
with the first 3 chapters, FM couldn't handle it.  (50% CPU usage  on a 
2 Ghz CPU w/ 2Gb RAM and only FM was open. Plenty of hard drive space 
too.) I may be able to compromise, in this case, and inset only those 
whose headings change though.

Ted also suggested a tool by Silicon Prairie Software that uses mapping 
tables to convert 1 para style to another.  It sounds like I could keep 
a book of those topics whose headings need to shift levels and use this 
tool to set the correct heading level before generating the final 
output.  That sounds easy enough. Does anyone see any "gotchas" with 
that approach?

Thank you all for your thoughts on this question. I always learn so much 
from you on this list and I appreciate the time you take to make it what 
it is.  I hope someday, I'll have gained enough experience and wisdom to 
return the favor.
Judy

Combs, Richard wrote:
> Judy wrote: 
>  
>   
>> The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more
>> than 1 output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in
>> the full manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.
>>
>> I've thought about:
>>  - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref
>> 
> issues.
>   
>>  - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are
>> entered directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work,
>> but I'm not sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any
>> 
> ideas?
>
> By all means, put the headings in the container and only the body text
> in the text inset source. Even in the absence of your heading-level
> conflict, this is a pretty good idea. Cross-references to pgfs inside a
> text inset are a pain. Keeping the section headings in the container doc
> lets you point xrefs to those headings. 
>
> I prefer to have the section headings in the container doc and only the
> content under them in the text inset source. Haven't seen a downside.
> YMMV, of course... 
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-02 Thread Judy

If I did every topic separately and added more for chunks smaller than a 
topic, I'd be around 1000. 
I'm the lone writer so I don't work on the network.  My current work is 
always local (regular backups made to other locations of course!) so  
that's not part of the speed problem.  All I know is when I built a book 
with 3 chapter files that had a total of about 300 insets, everything 
slowed *way* down and FM was all I had running!

Richard has suggested that I keep fewer fm files, each with multiple 
insets in different flows.  That would simplify opening/closing files as 
well as organizing so many files so that I can find them easily.

I've also begun putting some of these topics back together because, at 
least for now, they all appear together in all outputs.  There's no real 
reason to keep them all individually.

I think I have to assimilate all of these ideas and give those first 3 
chapters another try!
Thanks so much!
Judy

Art Campbell wrote:
> Judy, so how many insets is that? Tens, or hundreds, or thousands?
>
> To me, 50% utilization isn't much and I wouldn't be concerned... but
> when you start juggling hundreds of files, there's a corresponding hit
> on the operating system and network traffic; it's larger than just in
> FM. Within FM, you can also pick up some speed if you toggle automatic
> updating of the insets to Off, if you can -- probably depends on how
> often the content of the insets changes.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers apply.
>DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Judy  wrote:
>   
>> Art and Richard both recommended the idea of insetting topic body text
>> between the headings in a container doc.  My biggest qualm about using
>> container docs with all of the headings then insetting the body text is the
>> sheer number of insets.
>> I recently tried breaking my doc set into topic-sized fm docs, then building
>> the different outputs with the topic fm's as insets to a chapter container.
>>  It worked great w/ 1 chapter, but when I tested it with the first 3
>> chapters, FM couldn't handle it.  (50% CPU usage  on a 2 Ghz CPU w/ 2Gb RAM
>> and only FM was open. Plenty of hard drive space too.) I may be able to
>> compromise, in this case, and inset only those whose headings change though.
>>
>> Ted also suggested a tool by Silicon Prairie Software that uses mapping
>> tables to convert 1 para style to another.  It sounds like I could keep a
>> book of those topics whose headings need to shift levels and use this tool
>> to set the correct heading level before generating the final output.  That
>> sounds easy enough. Does anyone see any "gotchas" with that approach?
>>
>> Thank you all for your thoughts on this question. I always learn so much
>> from you on this list and I appreciate the time you take to make it what it
>> is.  I hope someday, I'll have gained enough experience and wisdom to return
>> the favor.
>> Judy
>>
>> Combs, Richard wrote:
>> 
>>> Judy wrote:
>>>   
>>>> The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more
>>>> than 1 output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in
>>>> the full manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.
>>>>
>>>> I've thought about:
>>>>  - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> issues.
>>>
>>>   
>>>>  - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are
>>>> entered directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work,
>>>> but I'm not sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> ideas?
>>>
>>> By all means, put the headings in the container and only the body text
>>> in the text inset source. Even in the absence of your heading-level
>>> conflict, this is a pretty good idea. Cross-references to pgfs inside a
>>> text inset are a pain. Keeping the section headings in the container doc
>>> lets you point xrefs to those headings.
>>> I prefer to have the section headings in the container doc and only the
>>> content under them in the text inset source. Haven't seen a downside.
>>> YMMV, of course...
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard G. Combs
>>> Senior Technical Writer
>>> Polycom, Inc.
>>> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>>> 303-223-5111
>>> --
>>> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
>>> 303-777-0436
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> 
>
>
>

Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-01 Thread Judy

I'm using Tech. Comm. Suite ( FM8 ver. 8.0p277  RH7 ver. 7.02.001) to 
generate multiple user manuals (a full manual and 3 quickstarts) as well 
as CHM Help files.  (Windows XP SP3 if it matters.)

The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more 
than 1 output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in 
the full manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.

I've thought about:
 - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref issues.
 - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are 
entered directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work, 
but I'm not sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any ideas?

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
Hypack, Inc.
j...@hypack,com



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Topic changes heading levels

2009-06-01 Thread Judy

I'm using Tech. Comm. Suite ( FM8 ver. 8.0p277 & RH7 ver. 7.02.001) to 
generate multiple user manuals (a full manual and 3 quickstarts) as well 
as CHM Help files.  (Windows XP SP3 if it matters.)

The challenge is how to best handle those topics that appear in more 
than 1 output, but at different heading levels--most commonly an H3 in 
the full manual becomes an H2 in the quickstarts.

I've thought about:
 - Multiple conditionalized headings, but that would cause xref issues.
 - Building a container doc for each output where the headings are 
entered directly but topic content inset by reference.  This may work, 
but I'm not sure it's the best answer.  Does anyone else have any ideas?

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
Hypack, Inc.
judy at hypack,com

Re: Containers and Insets-Building the Manual

2009-05-22 Thread Judy

Jing Torralba wrote:

 I use Richard's technique in creating insets in multiple flows within 
 the same source document. The insets populate cells of many similar 
 tables where one table uses 100% of the insets and the rest, only a 
 subset of all insets in different combinations. The tables describe 
 the options for adding an administrator, and there are three types of 
 administrators with unique and common options.

 Once I nailed down the process, inset management worked like a charm.

 Judy, I want to add this, in case you are producing PDFs and there are 
 cross-references from your inset files to external files, meaning, to 
 the container file itself or to other chapters in the book. These 
 xrefs will be broken in the PDF. For this you can use Rick Quatro's 
 script to unlock the insets, generate the PDF, then lock them again. 
 This preserves the links.

  

 HTH too!

 Jing

 ,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,!


 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Combs richard.co...@polycom.com
 To: Judy j...@hypack.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:15:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
 Subject: RE: Containers and Insets-Building the Manual

 Judy wrote:
  
  I read several posts concerning text insets in container documents and
  that sounded like the perfect solution.  After a few tests on a very
  small scale, I moved forward to breaking down  and reassembling the
  first 3 chapters of our user manual.
  Ch.1:  63 pgs,61 insets
  Ch.2: 224 pgs, 168 insets
  Ch 3:   83 pgs,   71 insets
 
  Each chapter (individually) worked fine, so with that much done, I
  decided to build a test book and work out the issues around
  cross-references and hypertext before I continued on to the remaining
 6
  chapters.
 
  My problem is that, with all of the fm files and books open at once,
 my
  computer slowed *way* down!  I built a book with the 3 container
  documents and added a TOC, but had trouble scrolling through the TOC.
  Nothing crashed, but it was so slow it's clear that I'm headed for
  trouble.

 That seems like a lot of text insets, but without knowing how/where
 you're going to reuse them, I can't say whether you've gone too far
 (there's not much point in all this modularization unless the insets are
 pieces that will be reused a lot, but in different combinations and
 configurations).

 Is each text inset an FM file? It doesn't have to be. A text inset needs
 to be a complete flow, but a single FM file can contain many separate
 flows (each with its own flow name). So you can put just about any
 number of text insets in one file. You can even use this as an
 organizing method, putting all text insets of a certain category,
 subject, purpose, etc., together in an appropriately-named file.
 Consolidating all those text insets into a handful of files may solve
 your problem.

 The process isn't difficult:

 1) On the last page of one of the existing text inset source documents,
 select Special  Add Disconnected Pages. Set Number of Pages to Add to
 the number of text insets you want to store in this file and click Add.
 When FM tries to discourage you from proceeding, tell it you're sure.

 2) On each added, empty page, paste one of the text insets you want to
 store in this file. Don't worry if some of them are more than a page --
 FM will create new pages as needed for each flow (each disconnected page
 you added is a separate flow; each has its own end-of-flow symbol).

 3) Give each flow a unique, meaningful name:

 -- Select a text frame in the flow and select Graphics  Object
 Properties.
 -- In the Customize Text Frame dialog, enter the name in the Flow Tag
 field and click Set.
 -- In the Rename Flow dialog, select Rename Current Flow Only and click
 Rename.

 When you want to import one of the text insets, select the file and
 then, in the Import Text Flow by Reference, select the flow by name.

 HTH!
 Richard


 Richard G. Combs
 Senior Technical Writer
 Polycom, Inc.
 richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
 303-223-5111
 --
 rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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I've actually used Richard's technique for insets smaller than a topic, 
but hadn't thought about doing it for larger sections.  It would 
certainly cut down on the number of files I have to organize *and* that 
FM has to open and close.  I'll think about how to organize things and 
give it a try.

I don't usually have the Character and Paragraph Designers open, but 
I'll keep it in mind

Containers and Insets-Building the Manual

2009-05-22 Thread Judy

Jing Torralba wrote:
>
> I use Richard's technique in creating insets in multiple flows within 
> the same source document. The insets populate cells of many similar 
> tables where one table uses 100% of the insets and the rest, only a 
> subset of all insets in different combinations. The tables describe 
> the options for adding an administrator, and there are three types of 
> administrators with unique and common options.
>
> Once I nailed down the process, inset management worked like a charm.
>
> Judy, I want to add this, in case you are producing PDFs and there are 
> cross-references from your inset files to external files, meaning, to 
> the container file itself or to other chapters in the book. These 
> xrefs will be broken in the PDF. For this you can use Rick Quatro's 
> script to unlock the insets, generate the PDF, then lock them again. 
> This preserves the links.
>
>  
>
> HTH too!
>
> Jing
>
> ,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,.-*+*-.,!
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Combs" 
> To: "Judy" , framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:15:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: RE: Containers and Insets-Building the Manual
>
> Judy wrote:
>  
> > I read several posts concerning text insets in container documents and
> > that sounded like the perfect solution.  After a few tests on a very
> > small scale, I moved forward to breaking down  and reassembling the
> > first 3 chapters of our user manual.
> > Ch.1:  63 pgs,61 insets
> > Ch.2: 224 pgs, 168 insets
> > Ch 3:   83 pgs,   71 insets
> >
> > Each chapter (individually) worked fine, so with that much done, I
> > decided to build a test book and work out the issues around
> > cross-references and hypertext before I continued on to the remaining
> 6
> > chapters.
> >
> > My problem is that, with all of the fm files and books open at once,
> my
> > computer slowed *way* down!  I built a book with the 3 container
> > documents and added a TOC, but had trouble scrolling through the TOC.
> > Nothing "crashed", but it was so slow it's clear that I'm headed for
> > trouble.
>
> That seems like a lot of text insets, but without knowing how/where
> you're going to reuse them, I can't say whether you've gone too far
> (there's not much point in all this modularization unless the insets are
> pieces that will be reused a lot, but in different combinations and
> configurations).
>
> Is each text inset an FM file? It doesn't have to be. A text inset needs
> to be a complete flow, but a single FM file can contain many separate
> flows (each with its own flow name). So you can put just about any
> number of text insets in one file. You can even use this as an
> organizing method, putting all text insets of a certain category,
> subject, purpose, etc., together in an appropriately-named file.
> Consolidating all those text insets into a handful of files may solve
> your problem.
>
> The process isn't difficult:
>
> 1) On the last page of one of the existing text inset source documents,
> select Special > Add Disconnected Pages. Set Number of Pages to Add to
> the number of text insets you want to store in this file and click Add.
> When FM tries to discourage you from proceeding, tell it you're sure.
>
> 2) On each added, empty page, paste one of the text insets you want to
> store in this file. Don't worry if some of them are more than a page --
> FM will create new pages as needed for each flow (each disconnected page
> you added is a separate flow; each has its own end-of-flow symbol).
>
> 3) Give each flow a unique, meaningful name:
>
> -- Select a text frame in the flow and select Graphics > Object
> Properties.
> -- In the Customize Text Frame dialog, enter the name in the Flow Tag
> field and click Set.
> -- In the Rename Flow dialog, select Rename Current Flow Only and click
> Rename.
>
> When you want to import one of the text insets, select the file and
> then, in the Import Text Flow by Reference, select the flow by name.
>
> HTH!
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
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Containers and Insets-Building the Manual

2009-05-21 Thread Judy

Hello Fellow Framers!

After spending quite a bit of time reading posts in the FrameUsers 
archives, I thought I had some things figured out.  It worked on a small 
scale, but now that I've begun using larger documents I'm running into a 
problem and I hope you folks can help.

I've been working toward making my unstructured FM 8 doc. set more 
modular to improve my single-sourcing capabilities.

I read several posts concerning text insets in container documents and 
that sounded like the perfect solution.  After a few tests on a very 
small scale, I moved forward to breaking down  and reassembling the 
first 3 chapters of our user manual.
Ch.1:  63 pgs,61 insets
Ch.2: 224 pgs, 168 insets
Ch 3:   83 pgs,   71 insets

Each chapter (individually) worked fine, so with that much done, I 
decided to build a test book and work out the issues around 
cross-references and hypertext before I continued on to the remaining 6 
chapters.

My problem is that, with all of the fm files and books open at once, my 
computer slowed *way* down!  I built a book with the 3 container 
documents and added a TOC, but had trouble scrolling through the TOC.  
Nothing crashed, but it was so slow it's clear that I'm headed for 
trouble.

I checked the performance in the Windows Task Manager and, with _only 
FM8_ open, the CPU Usage was around 50% (give or take about 7%).
My Computer:
 - Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
 - 2 GHz Motherboard
 - 2 GHz, 3.5 Gb RAM
 - OS: XP SP3

I'm wondering if I've broken the files down too far and FM can't handle 
that, or if there's something else I don't know about.  I've read, 
numerous times, about the power of FM and that people use it to handle 
much larger documents than mine. I have to believe that there's an 
answer somewhere.

Can you FM gurus please help me?

Thanks so much!
Judy



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2009-05-21 Thread Judy

Hello Fellow Framers!

After spending quite a bit of time reading posts in the FrameUsers 
archives, I thought I had some things figured out.  It worked on a small 
scale, but now that I've begun using larger documents I'm running into a 
problem and I hope you folks can help.

I've been working toward making my unstructured FM 8 doc. set more 
modular to improve my single-sourcing capabilities.

I read several posts concerning text insets in container documents and 
that sounded like the perfect solution.  After a few tests on a very 
small scale, I moved forward to breaking down  and reassembling the 
first 3 chapters of our user manual.
Ch.1:  63 pgs,61 insets
Ch.2: 224 pgs, 168 insets
Ch 3:   83 pgs,   71 insets

Each chapter (individually) worked fine, so with that much done, I 
decided to build a test book and work out the issues around 
cross-references and hypertext before I continued on to the remaining 6 
chapters.

My problem is that, with all of the fm files and books open at once, my 
computer slowed *way* down!  I built a book with the 3 container 
documents and added a TOC, but had trouble scrolling through the TOC.  
Nothing "crashed", but it was so slow it's clear that I'm headed for 
trouble.

I checked the performance in the Windows Task Manager and, with _only 
FM8_ open, the CPU Usage was around 50% (give or take about 7%).
My Computer:
 - Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
 - 2 GHz Motherboard
 - 2 GHz, 3.5 Gb RAM
 - OS: XP SP3

I'm wondering if I've broken the files down too far and FM can't handle 
that, or if there's something else I don't know about.  I've read, 
numerous times, about the power of FM and that people use it to handle 
much larger documents than mine. I have to believe that there's an 
answer somewhere.

Can you FM gurus please help me?

Thanks so much!
Judy

Re: Merged Project

2008-12-05 Thread Judy Bragg

Art wrote: This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, 
but
the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way
that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge.
As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs
work best, is to build a book in FM that contains all the chapter
files. IF... it really takes forever to update files and that's your
reason for not using a standard workflow, that would tell me that
there's something wrong with your setup. I know that I'm working on
several books with 500-600 pages and all the files are on a server...
and it takes maybe 2-3 minutes to update all insets, graphics, and
generate the TOC and Index. Which I can live with.
Your note that the system fails when you try to work correctly is
another key that you've got basic system or configuration problems.
Normal work doesn't cause systems to fail.
So the right direction would be to find and fix the underlying
problem, rather than look for additional kludges. Which would involve
supplying a lot more details about your system, RAM, free space,
network config and so on...I have no idea what is standard for setting up 
FM. It makes sense to me,
but if I need to change it somehow I'll be glad to know what the proper way is! 
 Here's what I've done:StructuredFM-Ch1
-Ch2
-Ch3...etc
-Graphics-Ch1
 -ch2
 -Ch3-TextInsets (Sub-files by subject matter)
-Books
 
The Books folder contains all books--Full Manual, as well as the smaller 
chapter books--and their TOC and IX files.There is no network involved 
anywhere.  I'm a lone writer so everything remains on my laptop.My system: 
Windows XP SP3, Intel Core Duo CPU (2GHz) and 3.49Gb RAM.  
I have almost 73Gb of free HD space and the current size of that whole 
StructuredFM folder is only 4.6Gb.
My full manual is about 1350 pgs.Also, it's not updating the books' TOC, IX, 
Xrefs, etc that takes so long.  It's updating their references in RH that takes 
forever.I look forward to hearing your suggestions.  Thanks so much for your 
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Merged Project

2008-12-05 Thread Judy Bragg

Art wrote: "This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, 
but
the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way
that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge.
"As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs
work best, is to build a book in FM that contains all the chapter
files. IF... it really "takes forever" to update files and that's your
reason for not using a standard workflow, that would tell me that
there's something wrong with your setup. I know that I'm working on
several books with 500-600 pages and all the files are on a server...
and it takes maybe 2-3 minutes to update all insets, graphics, and
generate the TOC and Index. Which I can live with.
"Your note that the system fails when you try to work correctly is
another key that you've got basic system or configuration problems.
Normal work doesn't cause systems to fail.
"So the right direction would be to find and fix the underlying
problem, rather than look for additional kludges. Which would involve
supplying a lot more details about your system, RAM, free space,
network config and so on..."I have no idea what is "standard" for setting up 
FM. It makes sense to me,
but if I need to change it somehow I'll be glad to know what the proper way is! 
 Here's what I've done:StructuredFM-Ch1
-Ch2
-Ch3...etc
-Graphics-Ch1
?-ch2
?-Ch3-TextInsets (Sub-files by subject matter)
-Books
?
The Books folder contains all books--Full Manual, as well as the smaller 
chapter books--and their TOC and IX files.There is no network involved 
anywhere.  I'm a lone writer so everything remains on my laptop.My system: 
Windows XP SP3, Intel Core Duo CPU (2GHz) and 3.49Gb RAM.  
I have almost 73Gb of free HD space and the current size of that whole 
StructuredFM folder is only 4.6Gb.
My full manual is about 1350 pgs.Also, it's not updating the books' TOC, IX, 
Xrefs, etc that takes so long.  It's updating their references in RH that takes 
forever.I look forward to hearing your suggestions.  Thanks so much for your 
willingness to help.Judy

Merged project

2008-12-03 Thread Judy Bragg

I'm using Tech. Comm. Suite ( FM8 ver. 8.0p277  RH7 ver. 7.02.001) to generate 
multiple user manuals (a full manual and 3 quickstarts) as well as CHM Help 
files.  (Windows XP SP3 if it matters.)
The manual has 10 chapters, each in its own FM book, complete with TOC and IX.  
All chapters are added to RH by reference and each is compiled to a CHM.  So 
far so good!
The problem comes when I try to merge them.  The TOC is OK, but the Index is 
wrong.  
Here's what I did:
I used the first chapter as the master and merged the other 9 onto the end of 
it.  (In the ch. 1 TOC, I clicked the New Merged Project icon and added the ch. 
2 chm.  Repeat the process for chapters 3-10.)  In the HTML Single Source 
Layout, I used the merged TOC...what should I do with the IX field?  
I tried adding IX placeholders to the end of the ch 1 IX, but the result was 10 
catenated IX files.   They don't merge.
Theoretically, I suppose I could generate the full manual in 1 FM book and 
reference it in RH, but it takes forever to update that many files and I've 
noticed the system tends to fail one way or another when I attempt to do too 
much.  Also, I have to produce a modular system patterned after the previous 
one.  Changing the help calls in the numerous program modules of our software 
would be our last resort at this point. This way I can do 1 chapter at a time 
and the TOC's  are easily updated from the FM file.  Now if I can just get the 
index to merge...
Can anyone please steer me in the right direction?  I would be forever grateful!
Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
Hypack, Inc.
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2008-12-03 Thread Judy Bragg

I'm using Tech. Comm. Suite ( FM8 ver. 8.0p277 & RH7 ver. 7.02.001) to generate 
multiple user manuals (a full manual and 3 quickstarts) as well as CHM Help 
files.? (Windows XP SP3 if it matters.)
The manual has 10 chapters, each in its own FM book, complete with TOC and IX.? 
All chapters are added to RH by reference and each is compiled to a CHM.? So 
far so good!
The problem comes when I try to merge them.? The TOC is OK, but the Index is 
wrong.? 
Here's what I did:
I used the first chapter as the master and merged the other 9 onto the end of 
it.? (In the ch. 1 TOC, I clicked the New Merged Project icon and added the ch. 
2 chm.? Repeat the process for chapters 3-10.)? In the HTML Single Source 
Layout, I used the merged TOC...what should I do with the IX field?? 
I tried adding IX placeholders to the end of the ch 1 IX, but the result was 10 
catenated IX files.?? They don't merge.
Theoretically, I suppose I could generate the full manual in 1 FM book and 
reference it in RH, but it takes forever to update that many files and I've 
noticed the system tends to fail one way or another when I attempt to do too 
much.? Also, I have to produce a modular system patterned after the previous 
one.? Changing the help calls in the numerous program modules of our software 
would be our last resort at this point. This way I can do 1 chapter at a time 
and the TOC's? are easily updated from the FM file.? Now if I can just get the 
index to merge...
Can anyone please steer me in the right direction?? I would be forever grateful!
Judy Bragg
Technical Writer
Hypack, Inc.

RE: FM8 HTML output

2008-09-17 Thread Judy

 Charlie,
I'm trying to do the same thing.  I've used RH for years, but I'm new to FM.
I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and I'm
moving my doc set into TCS.  I'd be more than willing to share notes.

I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to import
them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting.  I was also able to
successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in RH.
I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.)

Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it as a
valid FM file.  I found a thread in the user forum that said there's a file
size limit.  If I remember correctly, their experience was that 25MB would
work.  I've had 15MB files go unrecognized.

I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book
settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size limit.

I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages. I
can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble if I
have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to run
consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with each new
fm file!

I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the
images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have before
my release deadline in early Dec..  (Did I mention I'm a lone writer and
have to start writing the new content now?!  This is a major leap of faith!)

Does anyone out there have any ideas?

Judy







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   1. Handling source files for translation to several languages
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   2. RE: FM8 HTML output (Diane Gaskill)
   3. Re: FM8 HTML output (Yves Barbion)
   4. Re: Hypertext command (Shlomo Perets)
   5. Translation into japanese and chinese
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
   6. Is it possible to use a PNG with transparency in FM 7.2?
  (Roger Bell)
   7. RE: Tageditor and Framemaker, any special rules
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
   8. RE: SOLVED Re: Acrobat displays only B/W (Lea Rush)
   9. Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
  10. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (John Posada)
  11. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Vijay)
  12. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Rick Quatro)
  13. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Yves Barbion)
  14. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Scott Prentice)
  15. RE: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Kelly McDaniel)
  16. OT: Place to search for Frame contracts (Jerilynne Knight)
  17. Display date text insets changed in containter file
  (Mollye Barrett)
  18. FM8 crashes (Charlie Kyle)
  19. RE: FM8 crashes (Lea Rush)
  20. RE: Handling source files for translation to several
  languages (Diane Gaskill)
  21. RE: FM8 crashes (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
  22. RE: FM8 crashes (Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter))
  23. Rename Files - Was Hypertext command ( FCI Info )


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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:46:14 +0200
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We are going to translate our FM books into several languages. We use
unstructured Framemaker.

Right now our directory structure looks as follows:

Language folder
 - Text insets (corporate) (disclaimer, warranty, eula, terms of use)
 - Graphics (corporate) (logo, IVD, CE)
 - Text insets (product-specific)
- Product manual folder
  - Framemaker files
  - PDF files
  - Graphics (language specific)
  - Graphics (product generic)

Do you have a suggestion of how to handle the translation process? I know
that the translators are to use a tag editor and that the files are to go
into Trados.

I suggest that the Framemaker files are converted to .mif and that the same
folder structure is created in each language. I also suggest that we keep
the same file names for graphics in all languages.

How do you handle

FM8 HTML output

2008-09-17 Thread Judy

 Charlie,
I'm trying to do the same thing.  I've used RH for years, but I'm new to FM.
I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and I'm
moving my doc set into TCS.  I'd be more than willing to share notes.

I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to import
them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting.  I was also able to
successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in RH.
I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.)

Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it as a
valid FM file.  I found a thread in the user forum that said there's a file
size limit.  If I remember correctly, their experience was that 25MB would
work.  I've had 15MB files go "unrecognized".

I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book
settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size limit.

I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages. I
can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble if I
have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to run
consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with each new
fm file!

I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the
images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have before
my release deadline in early Dec..  (Did I mention I'm a lone writer and
have to start writing the new content now?!  This is a major leap of faith!)

Does anyone out there have any ideas?

Judy







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   1. Handling source files for translation to several languages
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   2. RE: FM8 HTML output (Diane Gaskill)
   3. Re: FM8 HTML output (Yves Barbion)
   4. Re: Hypertext command (Shlomo Perets)
   5. Translation into japanese and chinese
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
   6. Is it possible to use a PNG with transparency in FM 7.2?
  (Roger Bell)
   7. RE: Tageditor and Framemaker, any special rules
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
   8. RE: SOLVED Re: Acrobat displays only B/W (Lea Rush)
   9. Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
  10. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (John Posada)
  11. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Vijay)
  12. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Rick Quatro)
  13. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Yves Barbion)
  14. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Scott Prentice)
  15. RE: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Kelly McDaniel)
  16. OT: Place to search for Frame contracts (Jerilynne Knight)
  17. Display date text insets changed in containter file
  (Mollye Barrett)
  18. FM8 crashes (Charlie Kyle)
  19. RE: FM8 crashes (Lea Rush)
  20. RE: Handling source files for translation to several
  languages (Diane Gaskill)
  21. RE: FM8 crashes (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
  22. RE: FM8 crashes (Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter))
  23. Rename Files - Was Hypertext command ( FCI Info )


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We are going to translate our FM books into several languages. We use
unstructured Framemaker.

Right now our directory structure looks as follows:

Language folder
 - Text insets (corporate) (disclaimer, warranty, eula, terms of use)
 - Graphics (corporate) (logo, IVD, CE)
 - Text insets (product-specific)
- Product manual folder
  - Framemaker files
  - PDF files
  - Graphics (language specific)
  - Graphics (product generic)

Do you have a suggestion of how to handle the translation process? I know
that the translators are to use a tag editor and that the files are to go
into Trados.

I suggest that the Framemaker files are converted to .mif and that the same
folder structure is created

how to fix ePublisher Pro invalid URI messages?

2008-02-13 Thread Keene, Judith L (Judy)

Hello!

I have ePublisher Pro 9.0 and FrameMaker 7.2. 

 

When I try to create a WinHelp file (and fail), I get 

 Invalid URI 'mailto:' specified. 

Invalid URI: The hostname could not be parsed.

 

 Is there a setting in a FrameMaker or ePublisher file that I can change
to fix this? 

Thank you for all suggestions!

   Judy 

 

 


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how to fix ePublisher Pro invalid URI messages?

2008-02-13 Thread Keene, Judith L (Judy)

Hello!

I have ePublisher Pro 9.0 and FrameMaker 7.2. 



When I try to create a WinHelp file (and fail), I get 

" Invalid URI 'mailto:' specified." 

"Invalid URI: The hostname could not be parsed."



 Is there a setting in a FrameMaker or ePublisher file that I can change
to fix this? 

Thank you for all suggestions!

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RE: [stclwrsig-l] PDFs from Word with hyperlinks intact

2006-06-23 Thread Don and Judy

Rebecca:

Might I clarify? You own Acrobat Standard, yes? You aren't depending on the
PDF print driver that comes with Word, yes? I take it, regular Adobe Acrobat
installs itself in Word so that it will generate linked PDFs from a Word
file when the proper plug-in is called into play, right?

At least in Word 2000, from which I have yet to upgrade, the PDF print
driver does no more than create a static, non-html linked product.

The capability of clicking an icon in Word and generating a linked PDF
fascinates me, but is beyond me.

~ Don Spencer


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:14 AM
To: Don and Judy
Subject: RE: [stclwrsig-l] PDFs from Word with hyperlinks intact


Don,

Actually, it was a lot easier than that. The Acrobat Standard software
didn't install right - the menu options in Word were missing. I un- and
re-installed and now it works fine.

Thanks for the reply.
-
Rebecca

 -- Original message --
From: Don and Judy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Going from Word to PDF, it seemed to me a year ago, would require
something
 more than a printer driver, if you wanted to keep the links alive. PDF's
 straight from Word are neutered. No HTML.

 I bought FrameMaker 7.2. Imported the Word file/book w/o master doc. Had
to
 clean up a lot and learned a lot, recreating most links from scratch, but
 the groundwork was there.

 Now have a slick PDF that will bounce the reader anywhere he wants to go.

 ~ Don Spencer

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:23 AM
 To: STC Lone Writer SIG
 Subject: [stclwrsig-l] PDFs from Word with hyperlinks intact


 Folks,

 How does one generate a PDF from Word with the links intact? Do you need
to
 have the Professional version of Acrobat?
 -
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[stclwrsig-l] PDFs from Word with hyperlinks intact

2006-06-23 Thread Don and Judy

Rebecca:

Might I clarify? You own Acrobat Standard, yes? You aren't depending on the
PDF print driver that comes with Word, yes? I take it, regular Adobe Acrobat
installs itself in Word so that it will generate linked PDFs from a Word
file when the proper "plug-in" is called into play, right?

At least in Word 2000, from which I have yet to upgrade, the PDF print
driver does no more than create a static, non-html linked product.

The capability of clicking an icon in Word and generating a linked PDF
fascinates me, but is beyond me.

~ Don Spencer


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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:14 AM
To: Don and Judy
Subject: RE: [stclwrsig-l] PDFs from Word with hyperlinks intact


Don,

Actually, it was a lot easier than that. The Acrobat Standard software
didn't install right - the menu options in Word were missing. I un- and
re-installed and now it works fine.

Thanks for the reply.
-
Rebecca

 -- Original message --
From: "Don and Judy" <donandju...@earthlink.net>
> Going from Word to PDF, it seemed to me a year ago, would require
something
> more than a printer driver, if you wanted to keep the links alive. PDF's
> straight from Word are neutered. No HTML.
>
> I bought FrameMaker 7.2. Imported the Word file/book w/o master doc. Had
to
> clean up a lot and learned a lot, recreating most links from scratch, but
> the groundwork was there.
>
> Now have a slick PDF that will bounce the reader anywhere he wants to go.
>
> ~ Don Spencer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-stclwrsig-l-306758 at lists.stc.org
> [mailto:bounce-stclwrsig-l-306758 at lists.stc.org]On Behalf Of Rebecca
> Hopkins
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:23 AM
> To: STC Lone Writer SIG
> Subject: [stclwrsig-l] PDFs from Word with hyperlinks intact
>
>
> Folks,
>
> How does one generate a PDF from Word with the links intact? Do you need
to
> have the Professional version of Acrobat?
> -
> Rebecca
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RE: Converting CGM to TIF

2006-06-08 Thread Judy Keene

Rick,
   Hi! Look at freeware Irfanview - it is very versatile, many format
conversions instantly, for a  single file or batches of files. You will
love it!  http://www.irfanview.com/

 Judy

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Subject: OT: Converting CGM to TIF

Hello All,

I am looking for a good way to convert CGMs to TIFs. It would be nice to

have something that I could call with a command line so I can automate
the 
conversion. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks!

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

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RE: PageLabeler Plugin

Hey, friend,

I've used it. Plugs in easy. Does it's thing slick and gives you exactly
what you got in FM doc. Just make sure you allow the first (cover) page to
be #1. As is mentioned somewhere in the documentation, Reader counts all
pages.

~ Don Spencer

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Subject: PageLabeler Plugin


Anyone use Rick Quatro's PageLabeler Plugin with Frame 7.2? Is it
compatible?

I'm trying to get page number prefixes on my Cover and Copyright pages
(a text prefix), but I can't seem to get it to work. Yes, I did RTM, but
either I'm not following directions properly or something else is wrong.

This is more a curiosity than a serious issue, but I thought I'd ask
anyway
Thanks!
-Lin
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RE: question re object properties in Frame 7.2

One thing I've picked up, when struggling to highlight and manipulate
graphics or call out frames. By going to object properties, then canceling,
you highlight the object. Then call hold down the Alt key and tapping the
arrows, you can move objects with control.

Grouping call outs and graphics, however, I've had trouble with.

~ Don S.

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The October newsletter of the UK Chapter of STC, has a
review of Frame 7.2 by Sarah O'Keefe:
http://www.stcuk.org/newsletters/October2005/index.htm

Among other items, the reviewer mentions the new
display object propeties in the formatting bar
as extremely useful. Could FrameMaker 7.2 users
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Converting CGM to TIF

2006-06-08 Thread Judy Keene

Rick,
   Hi! Look at freeware Irfanview - it is very versatile, many format
conversions instantly, for a  single file or batches of files. You will
love it!  http://www.irfanview.com/

 Judy

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jkeene=akonix@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jkeene=akonix.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:16 AM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: OT: Converting CGM to TIF

Hello All,

I am looking for a good way to convert CGMs to TIFs. It would be nice to

have something that I could call with a command line so I can automate
the 
conversion. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks!

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

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PageLabeler Plugin

Hey, friend,

I've used it. Plugs in easy. Does it's thing slick and gives you exactly
what you got in FM doc. Just make sure you allow the first (cover) page to
be #1. As is mentioned somewhere in the documentation, Reader counts all
pages.

~ Don Spencer

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From: framers-bounces+donandjudy1=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+donandjudy1=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]O
n Behalf Of Lin Surasky
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:52 PM
To: Framers (E-mail)
Subject: PageLabeler Plugin


Anyone use Rick Quatro's PageLabeler Plugin with Frame 7.2? Is it
compatible?

I'm trying to get page number prefixes on my Cover and Copyright pages
(a text prefix), but I can't seem to get it to work. Yes, I did RTM, but
either I'm not following directions properly or something else is wrong.

This is more a curiosity than a serious issue, but I thought I'd ask
anyway
Thanks!
-Lin
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question re object properties in Frame 7.2

One thing I've picked up, when struggling to highlight and manipulate
graphics or call out frames. By going to object properties, then canceling,
you highlight the object. Then call hold down the Alt key and tapping the
arrows, you can move objects with control.

Grouping call outs and graphics, however, I've had trouble with.

~ Don S.

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n Behalf Of Charles Grinnell
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:59 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: question re object properties in Frame 7.2


The October newsletter of the UK Chapter of STC, has a
review of Frame 7.2 by Sarah O'Keefe:
http://www.stcuk.org/newsletters/October2005/index.htm

Among other items, the reviewer mentions the new
display object propeties in the formatting bar
as "extremely useful". Could FrameMaker 7.2 users
elaborate on this feature?

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RE: Entire FM Help available as a PDF

2006-06-07 Thread Don and Judy

Art:

That puppy is so huge, I can't view it. Where to I go to simply download it?
I tried backspacing the address but got a page not found.

~ Don Spencer

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Recently posted on Adobe's FM User Forum:



Most recent posts by Monica Valdez
On-line help is now available as a downloadable PDF - 01:46pm Jun 7,
2006 Pacific - All,

After much cajoling and patience persistence, my contact at Adobe has
convinced the powers that be that it really would be helpful to
many, many FrameMaker users to have the entire on-line FrameMaker Help
as a downloadable PDF. Voila!

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_help.pdf

Yeah!!!..

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Entire FM Help available as a PDF

2006-06-07 Thread Don and Judy

Art:

That puppy is so huge, I can't view it. Where to I go to simply download it?
I tried backspacing the address but got a page not found.

~ Don Spencer

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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:10 PM
To: Free Framers; Framers List
Subject: Entire FM Help available as a PDF


Recently posted on Adobe's FM User Forum:



Most recent posts by Monica Valdez
On-line help is now available as a downloadable PDF - 01:46pm Jun 7,
2006 Pacific - All,

After much cajoling and patience persistence, my contact at Adobe has
convinced the "powers that be" that it really would be helpful to
many, many FrameMaker users to have the entire on-line FrameMaker Help
as a downloadable PDF. Voila!

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/framemaker_help.pdf

Yeah!!!..

***
It rocks. Thank you Monica!
Art

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Caption Links in PDF Solved

2006-06-02 Thread Don and Judy

Greetings Framers, Peter G., Rebecca O., etc.,

I have solved and applied links to my book illustrations so that, when
viewing a PDF, the picture appears at the top of the page.
Heres the process:

1.  Add a blank placeholder,  , to all your numbered section-heading
paragraph tags. Then update them all. This must include your caption tag.
2.  Place your cursor immediately before the paragraph tag of an anchored
frame, create a new paragraph tag and insert the auto numbering sequence
from your caption tag.
3.  Then move the active numbering block n+ from the next to last place to
the last place in the chain.
4.  Apply that tag to all your anchored frames. Keep the font black and 
large
enough so that as you go along you can monitor the number at the top of the
picture. It must match the number at the bottom of the picture.
5.  Once all the tags over the illustrations match the tags beneath the
pictures, format the tags font to 2 pts and make its color white. This will
tighten the space at the top of the picture and make the numbers disappear.
6.  Now, when you make a cross reference to an illustration, instead of
pointing to the visible caption paragraph tag, make the invisible
anchored-frame tag the source. Or change all the ones youve already made to
point to the invisible paragraph tag. (The format of the numbered tag wont
affect the cross reference. The number will appear in your text in the font
of the immediate paragraph, just as with any other cross reference.)

Now, when you view the generated PDF, every time you click on an
illustration cross-reference, the picture will pop to the top of the viewing
window, with the original caption beneath it.

The only downside Ive discovered is, if one is in Reader and searching the
word that matches the caption, Figure for example, the cursor will land
atop each illustration, finding the invisible word.  Odd maybe, but unlikely
to be a problem.

Thanks all for your help.

~ Don Spencer
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Caption Links in PDF Solved

2006-06-02 Thread Don and Judy

Greetings Framers, Peter G., Rebecca O., etc.,

I have solved and applied links to my book illustrations so that, when
viewing a PDF, the picture appears at the top of the page.
Here?s the process:

1.  Add a blank placeholder, < >, to all your numbered section-heading
paragraph tags. Then update them all. This must include your caption tag.
2.  Place your cursor immediately before the paragraph tag of an anchored
frame, create a new paragraph tag and insert the auto numbering sequence
from your caption tag.
3.  Then move the active numbering block  from the next to last place to
the last place in the chain.
4.  Apply that tag to all your anchored frames. Keep the font black and 
large
enough so that as you go along you can monitor the number at the top of the
picture. It must match the number at the bottom of the picture.
5.  Once all the tags over the illustrations match the tags beneath the
pictures, format the tag?s font to 2 pts and make its color white. This will
tighten the space at the top of the picture and make the numbers disappear.
6.  Now, when you make a cross reference to an illustration, instead of
pointing to the visible caption paragraph tag, make the invisible
anchored-frame tag the source. Or change all the ones you?ve already made to
point to the invisible paragraph tag. (The format of the numbered tag won?t
affect the cross reference. The number will appear in your text in the font
of the immediate paragraph, just as with any other cross reference.)

Now, when you view the generated PDF, every time you click on an
illustration cross-reference, the picture will pop to the top of the viewing
window, with the original caption beneath it.

The only downside I?ve discovered is, if one is in Reader and searching the
word that matches the caption, ?Figure? for example, the cursor will land
atop each illustration, finding the invisible word.  Odd maybe, but unlikely
to be a problem.

Thanks all for your help.

~ Don Spencer

Re: Links to Captions in PDF

Framers:

Following the advice of others than Peter G. and Schlomo P., I decided to
move all my figure captions (numbered by a para tag) to the top of each
illustration. Got over a hundred, so it took quite a while.

I found the easiest way to pull this off was to cut the entire caption
paragraph with its markers,  Click just after the anchored frame marker
above the picture (in front of the para tag), and paste the caption
paragraph into place. Then, delete the paragraph tag that appeared under the
picture as a consequence and go on to the next.

All seemed wonderful. Only took me a few hours. All the links functioned
within FrameMaker as proven with the Ctrl+Alt click technique. But then I
checked the resulting PDF files and found that those links, but one, which
were connected to a reference within the current file went nowhere/did
nothing. Links connected to a figure in another chapter (file) worked as
they were intended.

Perhaps this has something to do with placing the cross-ref adjacent to the
anchor marker. I wouldn't know. I replaced each link, deleted and reinserted
each link. But nothing changed the result. I even saved the chapter as an
MIF and reopened and resaved it. No change.

With a day of work virtually wasted, I'm contemplating returning the to the
more complicated suggestions of P.G.   S.P. Or else move the Caption to a
text frame within the anchored frame.

As we say in the carpenters trade, 'Ain't nothin' ever easy?

~ Don Spencer
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FW: Links to captions in PDF

Hi, Peter et al:

Chastened by Peter in the following direct e-mail, I will share it for
everyone's  edification, though in abridged form.

>Peter:
>
>by
>   * Create a paragraph format for the caption that is the
>   cross-reference source which appears at the top of the graphic. Set
>   the text color White.
>Do you mean format the anchored-frame paragraph atop the frame that
contains
>the picture?

Yes.

>   * Create a cross-reference to the white caption paragraph below the
>   graphic; tag it with your standard caption paragraph format.
>Which means, put a cross-reference (in white) that jumps from the anchored
>frame tag to the caption (Figure X-i) tag at the bottom of the picture.
>
>   * Point cross-references in text to the white caption paragraph.
>
>Then, instead of entering a standard cross-reference to the caption (Figure
>X-i)in the appropriate file, I instead type that reference into the text
and
>create (imbed) a cross-reference to the white tag at the bottom of the
>picture? Then why not simply imbed the tab to the top?
>
>Must be missing something here. Though the light is beginning to dawn.

Sorry for any lack of clarity, or too much brevity (can one have too
much brevity?) My suggestion works on the principle of a white
("invisible") cross-reference source (the thing you may think of as
what you point to, but which is commonly called the source), so when
you activate the link in a PDF, it's at the top of the screen. That's
one reference to the source, in text somewhere that says "(Figure
X-i" or whatever.) The second reference to this source is below the
graphic, either in a table cell, table title below, or even in a text
frame in the anchored frame with the graphic; it's not white, so it's
visible. The reader sees the caption where it's expected, but the
navigation mechanism in PDF ( as well as in HTML Web pages, which
work the same frustrating way, BTW) positions the invisible source at
the top of the window. If there's too much space at the top, you can
make a small font size part of the paragraph format.

>And thanks so much.

You're welcome. However, in the future, please post your follow-up
questions to the list so that others might help in clarifying, and
also that others can benefit from the clarifications. Please post
your successful steps and results to the list for the others.

However, I have yet to attempt this method. But instead opted for rush 
to
captions above.
My method, however, must have been faulty as will be explained in a
following e-mail. :+}


~ Don Spencer

Links to Captions in PDF

Framers:

Following the advice of others than Peter G. and Schlomo P., I decided to
move all my figure captions (numbered by a para tag) to the top of each
illustration. Got over a hundred, so it took quite a while.

I found the easiest way to pull this off was to "cut" the entire caption
paragraph with its markers,  Click just after the anchored frame marker
above the picture (in front of the para tag), and "paste" the caption
paragraph into place. Then, delete the paragraph tag that appeared under the
picture as a consequence and go on to the next.

All seemed wonderful. Only took me a few hours. All the links functioned
within FrameMaker as proven with the Ctrl+Alt click technique. But then I
checked the resulting PDF files and found that those links, but one, which
were connected to a reference within the current file went nowhere/did
nothing. Links connected to a figure in another chapter (file) worked as
they were intended.

Perhaps this has something to do with placing the cross-ref adjacent to the
anchor marker. I wouldn't know. I replaced each link, deleted and reinserted
each link. But nothing changed the result. I even saved the chapter as an
MIF and reopened and resaved it. No change.

With a day of work virtually wasted, I'm contemplating returning the to the
more complicated suggestions of P.G.  & S.P. Or else move the Caption to a
text frame within the anchored frame.

As we say in the carpenters trade, 'Ain't nothin' ever easy?"

~ Don Spencer

Caption Link Woes

Dear Framers & Peter G.:

Having returned to a form of my book with the figure captions below the
pictures, I did the following:

1. Created a paragraph tag for the top of the pictures which contains a new
numbering system. (To do this, one more place holder, < >, had to be
inserted into the existing numbering system in each para tag.) The numbers
match the numbers of the visible tags below the pictures, but are white and
2 pt.

2. I then went to each reference to a figure (Search Any Cross Reference,
click, click, click . . . ) and changed the reference to Text. Then beside
said reference, I inserted a reference to the figure's crown tag.

This seems to work fine in the PDF except for one problem. When the reader
puts his cursor over the figure reference, nothing happens. He must instead
move it to the right of the figure ref to get that little linking hand icon.
This would require some explanation.
Better to go back to putting all the captions above the pictures.

I am suspicious that I've missed something in translation. Is there meant to
be a ricochet so that one clicks the caption cross ref which kicks to the
caption under the picture, which kicks to the invisible reference atop the
picture?

Insanity lurks.

~ Don Spencer

printing garbage from FrameMaker file

Help! 

Some FrameMaker files look good but print a single line of garbage
letters per page (for reams of paper) to a Xerox printer but are OK
printing to the HP printer. I suspect that some of my FM crashes and
recovered files might have embedded something in those files but I do
not know how to repair them.  Please advise - thank you!! Judy

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RE: printing garbage from FrameMaker file

We tried all suggestions and now suspect that the printer is the problem
since it randomly scans or does not scan correctly.  Thank you all for
inputs! Judy

-Original Message-
From: John Posada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:33 AM
To: Stuart Rogers; Judy Keene
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: printing garbage from FrameMaker file

Clear your print queue, then reboot your printer

  Some FrameMaker files look good but print a single line of
 garbage
  letters per page (for reams of paper) to a Xerox printer but are

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

So long and thanks for all the fish.
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Links to captions in PDF

2006-05-30 Thread Don and Judy

Greetings, all:

I have discovered a problem when generating PDF's from my illustrated book.

Ignorant of proper frame technique at the outset, I created anchored frames
through importing graphics and captioned them with a separate paragraph
immediately following the anchored frame. These captions are numbered and
cross referred to occasionally in the text.

The cross references function fine in the generated PDF files except for one
small detail.

When the link is clicked, Adobe Reader pops the linked text to the top of
the viewing page, exactly at the top, so that the illustration is up and out
of view. All that is visible is the caption text at the very top line. The
reader must scroll upward to see the picture.

In my experiments to cure this problem and allow the illustration to come
into view when the link is clicked, I have used tables with the caption
beneath. The result is the same. Only when the caption is placed ABOVE THE
ILLUSTRATION, whether with a table inclusion or just by formatting as the
caption that paragraph mark to which the frame is anchored, can I get the
PDF to show the illustration with the link.

I don't really mind this work-around, except that placing a caption above an
illustration is very nonstandard and may require an explanation in the
preface.

An suggestions from all you brilliant frameusers around the English speaking
world?

~ Don Spencer

printing garbage from FrameMaker file

Help! 

Some FrameMaker files look good but print a single line of garbage
letters per page (for reams of paper) to a Xerox printer but are OK
printing to the HP printer. I suspect that some of my FM crashes and
recovered files might have embedded something in those files but I do
not know how to repair them.  Please advise - thank you!! Judy

printing garbage from FrameMaker file

The problem files printed fine a month on the same printer and now have
some kind of bit problem which is invisible (most likely due to crashes
and recoveries). Other FM files in the same book print fine on the Xerox
printer so does not look like a print driver problem. 

-Original Message-
From: Schneberger, Joanne [mailto:joanne.schneber...@sage.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:27 AM
To: Judy Keene; 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: RE: printing garbage from FrameMaker file

That sounds like a printer driver issue and nothing to do with
FrameMaker.
Try deleting and reinstalling the printer with a new driver.  You can
usually locate drivers from Windows Update or the manufacturer's web
site.
I've had a similar issue with a Konica printer which isn't compatible
with
Acrobat 7.0

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+joanne.schneberger=sage@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+joanne.schneberger=sage.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On
Behalf Of Judy Keene
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:10 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: printing garbage from FrameMaker file

Help! 

Some FrameMaker files look good but print a single line of garbage
letters per page (for reams of paper) to a Xerox printer but are OK
printing to the HP printer. I suspect that some of my FM crashes and
recovered files might have embedded something in those files but I do
not know how to repair them.  Please advise - thank you!! Judy

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