Re: [Framers] Including a non-breaking hyphen in a variable

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I created a bug report in the Adobe Tracker.
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-11682

I only added the request to add a cross-reference from the section
about special characters.
Feel free to vote and add your suggestions.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Including a non-breaking hyphen in a variable

I agree that it would have been a lot better if they used a title like "Typing 
special characters? in dialog boxes".

-FR

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Including a non-breaking hyphen in a variable

I worked in Archives in my misspent youth, creating archival entries for new 
collections. A side effect was learning to create great queries that have stood 
me in good stead since the internet "came along".

A big exception is trying to find a specific way to do something in Frame, 
either on the web or in the manual.

I would never have looked for "Typing in dialog boxes".

Thanks!

Alison


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I didn't see the original query, but the answer is actually contained in almost 
every edition of the hard-copy manual. Look in the appendixes for one called 
"Typing in dialog boxes". This appendix contains tables listing all of the 
"escape codes" for characters that cannot be typed directly with a single 
keyboard keystroke. For the Windows version of Framemaker, the "escape" 
character is the backslash, which is the first character of every one of the 
listed codes.

-FR

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Including a non-breaking hyphen in a variable

The more I dig into long-unused memory to look for what I used to know about 
FM, the less I find, because there's too much dust and rust in the way. 
Instead, I try a Web search, and find how true it is that "nothing every dies 
on the internet." Have you tried something like "framemaker non-breaking hyphen 
in variable"? There's a ton of results. At least a few might be correct.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 6:41 PM Craig, Alison GLI/CA < 
acr...@greenlightinnovation.com> wrote:

> Windows 10
> FrameMaker subscription (fully updated).
>
> We use a project number format to identify our custom projects (eg, 
> G19-6820, H21-2500, etc).
>
> I always turn the project numbers into variables but I can't figure 
> out to make the hyphen into a non-breaking version when I create the variable.
>
> I know it has something to do with a backslash (\), but I'm not sure 
> what else is involved.
>
>
> Alison
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Re: [Framers] Including a non-breaking hyphen in a variable

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Alison,

This is described in the appendix in the section "Typing in dialog boxes".
For a non-breaking hyphen enter: \+

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/using-framemaker/user-guide/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ffe_ver12.0.html

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: [Framers] Including a non-breaking hyphen in a variable

Windows 10
FrameMaker subscription (fully updated).

We use a project number format to identify our custom projects (eg, G19-6820, 
H21-2500, etc).

I always turn the project numbers into variables but I can't figure out to make 
the hyphen into a non-breaking version when I create the variable.

I know it has something to do with a backslash (\), but I'm not sure what else 
is involved.


Alison
Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation 
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Re: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Rick,

But she would need the script on FM 7, wouldn't she?
ExtendScript was introduced later.
And I do not know, if FrameScript was already available for FM 7.
On FM 2020 possibly an easy MIF wash.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

Hi Wendy,

If you want a batch process, take a look at my ConvertDocs script at my web 
store. Thanks.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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Re: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Wendy,

I think that FM 2020 is much better than FM 7!
And Acrobat does not cause any problems.
In my experience FM 2020 in the latest version is very stable.
After the installation update to FM 16.0.4 (Help | Updates).
16 is the internal major version number.

Yes. Saving as MIF from FM 7 and then saving this with FM 2020 is a good idea.
If you have lots of files, you might buy FrameScript and ask
one of the developers on this list to provide a script which saves
as MIF automatically.

Your fonts should only be a problem, if you have a font with a special
encoding, e.g. for Eastern European languages.
(In marker text this could be a problem.)
FM now transfers also old non-Unicode fonts without issues.
Generally I would strongly recommend to switch to a Unicode font!

Apart from this I never heard of any issues.
And also users who upgrade with each version have old files which they have
to update.

Yes. You can install as many FM versions in parallel as you like.
(With Acrobat you can install only one version.)
You do not have to uninstall FM 7.
Only install Acrobat first and then FM.
If you install on a new PC, install Acrobat first, then FM 7 and then FM 2020.
Then the fm file name extension will be bound to FM 2020.
If you have Acrobat Standard or Pro, do not install the headless Acrobat 
Distiller of FM 7!

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of Wendy McGovern
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 8:26 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

Hi, Framers,

We are finally going to bite the bullet and upgrade our nice, stable Frame 7 to 
the newest version. Theoretically, an old version of Frame should have no 
problems being opened into the newest version. But I have a feeling there may 
be problems opening some of our really old files because of old graphics and 
font problems and other miscellaneous weirdnesses. And IT will probably be 
upgrading us to the new Acrobat version as well.

>From what I saw of the installation instructions on the internet, you have to 
>uninstall the existing Frame in order to install the new version. So my 
>question is-are there any gotchas to know ahead of time to make sure old Frame 
>7 files open into the new 2020 version? (I know you list people haven't had 
>such a large gap in versions as we have.) What happens if the new Frame 
>refuses to open a file and we don't have the old version to be able to alter 
>it in some way? Can you change an .fm extension to a .mif extension to try to 
>open it?

I may be worrying too much and it may work just fine; just want to be proactive 
based on my experience with upgrades screwing up things that used to work.

Wendy 

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Re: [Framers] Acrolinx vs Grammarly

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Carla,

According to this web-site Acrolinx and Grammarly do different things:
https://www.indoition.com/language-terminology-tools-technical-writing.htm

Interesting overview. I had not known that there are now so many grammar and 
style
applications.

Best regards

Winfried

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Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 5:20 PM
Subject: [Framers] Acrolinx vs Grammarly

Looking for info on comparing Acrolinx and Grammarly, but not finding what I 
want online.

Does anyone have any resources that might show a feature and usage comparison?

  *   Your company did it already and you can share
  *   Presentation from DitaWorld, STC Conference, etc.

We've got a few people using Grammarly individually, and we've talked to 
Acrolinx and Grammarly for their business implementations, but neither has 
provided anything to compare.

Thx
Carla




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Re: [Framers] Identifying a font

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Tammy,

In the past I had used the service from a German font shop.
https://www.fontshop.com/content/font-identification-and-type-research

Their font identification relies on MyFonts:
https://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Identifying a font

Quick google reveals a bunch of sites that will take your image & identify the 
font being used 
From: Framers 
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of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2022 7:13 PM
To: tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
Subject: [Framers] Identifying a font

I have a PNG that displays a san serif font. Is there a way to identify which 
specific san serif font that it is? Is anyone a font guru/guruess that might be 
able to take a look at the PNG and provide their thoughts as to the font?



TIA,



TVB





Tammy Van Boening

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Re: [Framers] (no subject)

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Ben,

You might create a feature request in the Adobe Tracker:
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/home

Describe your wishes as detailed as possible.
You can also post the link here or in the Adobe forum
so that others who would like this feature can vote.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: [Framers] (no subject)

   Hi,
   does anyone know how to export the Framemaker file information like
   description, author, keywords... into metadata tags in the header of
   the Html export file (basic or response).
   Only the title tag is exported to html.
   In PDF you find the file information in the PDF document properties.
   I'm using FM 16.0.4...

   Thanks for your help
   Best regards
   Ben

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Re: [Framers] HTML output image filenames

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

Which version do you have (Help | About)?
The current one is 16.0.4.1062.
There were some changes in the HTML5 export in the last updates.
I just tested it with HTML5, and the file names were not changed.
Only the file format: BMP was converted to PNG.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: [Framers] HTML output image filenames

   Hi,
   I'm working with FrameMaker 2020.
   I want to publish FM files as Html (basic or response). When I do so,
   the images used in the FM file is coppied to the asset folder.
   So far so good. But the images are renamed, like "NewName_image1",
   "NewName_image2" and so on
   I want the images to be published with the original filenames.
   Any ideas where I can make this setting?
   Thanks in advance
   Ben

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Re: [Framers] FM2019 and gremlins

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I work all the time on an external USB drive and now and then
either directly on our network or connected via VPN.
I do not notice any issues.

Therefore it could be that you had problems, but this is not a general problem.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 and gremlins

Hello,

In all the years I have been using FrameMaker, I have only ever experienced 
files that couldn't be opened in the following cases:

1 - files saved on USB drives, and Windows deciding to save energy putting 
computer to sleep
2 - files saved on network locations
3 - files located on a failing drive
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Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Betrand,

Sorry to hear this.
However:
o From your other thread I understand that you used and old version.
 Newer versions are definitely more stable.
o My experience is that Adobe is more responsive than some years ago.
  The support e-mail address is: tcs...@adobe.com
  When you have an issue (e.g. with recovery files), then also post it on the 
Adobe forum.
  There are a few Adobe employees who follow the discussions.
  Your issue might get more attention.
  And post your issue on the Adobe Tracker:
  https://tracker.adobe.com/#/home

Best regards

Winfried

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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2022 4:32 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Cc: me...@inf.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

This is an old thread but here is a comment. I fundamentally rely on FrameMaker 
and would never "bash" it. On the other hand, right now at the end of a 
two-year book-writing process, with the camera-ready due on Monday, I got a 
crash this afternoon. Not the first -- in my experience, if I am working on a 
book a FrameMaker session does not last more than three or four days before it 
vanishes  --  but possibly the worst ever. The supposed recovery files were 
corrupted; just to restart from the backup to a stable state took almost two 
hours. I do back up obsessively (as I have been burned many times before), but 
still. And when you are in delicate fine-tuning, typo-fixing and final indexing 
mode, working over several chapters at once, going through every recent change 
to see which were kept and which were lost, is a nightmare. 

One might imagine that by this time they would have either fixed the crashes or 
devised a decent recovery mechanism.

There is still nothing that measures up to FrameMaker for writing books with a 
sophisticated structure, but if it did respect the integrity of customers' work 
that wouldn't hurt.

-- Bertrand Meyer

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:00
To: Framers List 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

I don't know why everyone likes bashing FrameMaker.

Is there anything else that:
• Is suitable for long books.
• Gives you PDF output as is appears while you are working (WYSIWYG).
• Can be converted to online help, (even if it requires buying an extra 
program).

FM happens to have online help conversion built-in, but I could live without 
that if that was another decent authoring tool that worked together with 
another decently priced conversion tool.

Word comes close to checking all those boxes, but has problems with large files 
and other issues.

Someone mention another page layout program recently, but I forgot what it was. 
Maybe it was Xara Page & Layout Designer. But can it do online help at all?

Please post if you know of another authoring tool that is excellent for PDFs 
and can be used for online help.

My biggest gripe with FM is the price, but you know what, you really don't need 
to buy every new version that comes out. Do you buy every new smartphone that 
comes out, or wait until you need a new phone? Anyone under 20 is excluded from 
answering that question :)

--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
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Re: [Framers] License update

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Betrand,

I agree. I would also switch to FM 2020.
In my experience FM 2019 was more stable than previous versions
and FM 2020 is more stable than FM 2019.

Regarding Insight: That's the software provider from which we buy
our licences.

Best regards

Winfried

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software. 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] License update

Version 16, FrameMaker 2020, is the latest shipping version, and there is 
always ongoing development.
So I'd avoid 2019 given that it's already been passed by.

Art Campbell
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 2:25 AM Bertrand Meyer 
wrote:

> Dear Framers,
>
> I am using FrameMaker 2015 and am planning to update too FrameMaker 
> 2019 at the same time as moving to a new laptop. I would appreciate 
> help with two questions:
>
> 1. I am not interested in a subscription, only in buying a license. I 
> found no possibility on Adobe's site but one on CDW ( 
> https://www.cdw.com/product/adobe-framemaker-2019-release-license-1-user/5244308).
> Can anyone confirm that this source is suitable? The licensing is not 
> clear from their site (I wrote to them for clarification), so if 
> anyone has experience with them I will be grateful. The source I used 
> back in 2015 thanks to a tip from this list, Insight ( 
> https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/65292764AD01A00/Adobe/65292
> 764AD01A00/AdobeFrameMaker(2019Release/)),
> currently says that the site is under maintenance.
>
> 2. I am not following this email list on a daily basis (I do use 
> FrameMaker on a daily basis -- it has been my main writing tool since ca.
> 1998 --  but it does what I want and I know its quirks), so I 
> apologize if everyone else knows the answer to my next question: is it 
> a good idea to purchase the 2019 version now, or is there another 
> expected update coming out soon?
>
> Thanks in advance and best regards,
>
> -- Bertrand Meyer
> Last (FrameMaker-produced) book: Agile: The Good, the Hype and the 
> Ugly, Springer,
> https://www.amazon.com/Agile-Good-Hype-Bertrand-Meyer/dp/3319051547 

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Re: [Framers] FM 16.0.4 update...

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Scott,

I still use FrameScript, and I can assure you that I have to
register FrameScript again after each update.
FrameScript adds a line in 
c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 2020\maker.ini
and not in 
c:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\16\maker.ini
Each update overrides maker.ini in the Program Files folder.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 16.0.4 update...

Lynne...

Some updates have replaced the INI, but I don't recall it happening often 
(maybe I've blocked those memories). I'd switch to the "user" area if Adobe 
provided a "$USERDIR" variable for structured applications. If you move the 
apps into the user area, you have to hard-code the path in the application 
definition .. annoying and error prone. So since I keep using $STRUCTDIR in my 
app definitions, I have to install things in the Program Files area, so I keep 
using the default maker.ini (not a great excuse, but that's my thinking).

Thanks for the tip with "back" .. although it seems to not be persistent. Guess 
it's not related to the update install.

Cheers,
...scott


On 2/16/22 11:17 AM, Lynne A. Price wrote:
>
> On 2/16/2022 10:53 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
>> I just installed the 16.0.4 update, and see the following oddities ..
>>
>> - the update blindly installed a new maker.ini, which wiped out all 
>> plugins registered there a well as any customizations (yes, I know, I 
>> should use the maker.ini in %appdata% .. but still, I don't recall 
>> this being done with earlier updates)
>
> Scott,
>
>    I believe all updates have replaced the main maker.ini; it is part 
> of the distribution and may have changes.
>
>
>>
>> - hosed the "welcome page" in both FM2019 and FM2017
>
>    The Welcome Page seems to have been destroyed today independently 
> of the update. Select the Back command from the context menu to 
> restore it.
>
>     --Lynne 

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Re: [Framers] elusive transparent background

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

It's a few years ago that I had needed images with transparent background.

As far as I remember:
Use EPS format. Clipping path with background colour is transparent.
Import this into a FM file.
Select the file and in the Graphics toolbar remove the colour (Fill is None).
(The display in the FM file does not show the transparency. Only the PDF.)
Create your PDF. Possibly you have to use the Distiller.

Bernd Meissner described this in this short PDF:
http://www.meissner-dokuteam.de/Files/Frame/Transparency2_p250.pdf

In the Adobe forum Arnis Gubins wrote a very detailed description.
I think that you need only the EPS part.
https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/fm-transparency-rev1-pdf/m-p/4791795#M31011

Best regards

Winfried

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 On Behalf 
Of David Artman
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 10:51 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] elusive transparent background

Try export PSD to PDF and insert by reference (always, always by reference!). 
Alternately, depending on the logo, transparent GIF (i.e., spot color logo) or 
even TIFF (gradients). Transparency support has always been finicky in FM, and 
even more so once FM went all DITA. WORST case, accept the suck and use a 
matching background color whenever you overlay anything other than white, even 
if it means multiple variants of the referenced image files. Hope this helps, 
DavidDCA:d.a.d
 Original message From: Ken Poshedly  
Date: 1/30/22  16:29  (GMT-05:00) To: FrameMaker Users List 
 Subject: [Framers] elusive transparent 
background Hey Gang,Here's my predicament. I'm using FM 10.0 (which I own), 
Adobe Acrobat Pro Version 9.0 (which I also own) and Adobe PhotoShop CS4 
Version 11.0 (again, which I also own).I'm trying to paste a png file (it's the 
logo for an organization) with transparent background into a frame (front cover 
the the organizations's journal) with a certain color (the exact color is 
irrelevant for this discussion). I've opened the png file in Photoshop to 
confirm the background is transparent (checkbox pattern displays).But the 
background of the png image file always displays as a white box once it's in 
place in the frame on the cover of the journal.I've tried importing the png 
graphic by reference, by "Copy into document" and even by doing a direct paste 
via Ctrl-V but with the same results every time (white background in the boxed 
graphic).Help please? I'm glad to work with someone off-list and send them the 
files to experiment with.-- Ken in Atlanta 

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Re: [Framers] TOC issue

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Tammy,

I just read your post about line breaks.

What you can do:
In the paragraph designer in the Advanced tab change the Minimum
and Maximum values of your TOC paragraphs:
Minimum 200 %
Maximum 125 %
This will create an automatic line break shortly before the right end of the 
lines.
I have this setting for many years now, and only very rarely do I have to add
a manual line break.
You can change the values to get the line break earlier or later.
Just experiment a little bit.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 9:26 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue

...
Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based on the 
length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually adding the 
needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I loathe doing it every 
time I produce a final book because either I forget to do it or I miss a line 
or two.

Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this for you? 

If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction (other 
than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I would most 
appreciate it.

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Re: [Framers] Adobe Acrobat Pro XI Distiller issue

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Tammy,

I do not know, why you cannot create the PDF.
Often on the last distilled page (or the previous or following page) there is a 
problem like a graphics file.
Can you check this?
Can you distill to a PDF, when you hide all graphics (View | Options)?

You can create a PDF with Distiller with a specific joboptions file.
I do this all the time.
In the Publish pod select PDF and then click on the icon to the right of your 
settings file. Click Edit.
FrameMaker opens the Publish Settings of your settings file.
In the General tab you can select a Preset (which is the joboptions file).
At the bottom of this window select "Use Acrobat Distiller ...".
Then FrameMaker will create an internal PostScript file and distill to this to 
a PDF
in the same folder as the book file or the FM file.

FrameMaker will use this settings for all PDFs, not only for that of the 
current FM file or book.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 3:32 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Adobe Acrobat Pro XI Distiller issue

Windows 10, 64-bit system. Adobe Framemaker 2019, perpetual license.

 

Since the cows have come home, I print a FM book to .ps to a watched folder, 
and then w/ Acrobat Distiller open and set to the correct joboptions file, I 
distill the .ps to a PDF. It has worked like a charm all the way through 
yesterday when boom - now the book is distilled to about 93% w/out errors and 
then Acrobat Distiller just closes. NO error  message, nada, zip, zilch.

 

I have changed ABSOLUTELY nothing on my system, taken no updates, etc. 

 

I have absolutely NO idea why/how this got started, but I am in desperate need 
of getting this figured out because I have a specific joptions file that I must 
use for each client book (fonts that must be embedded in the
PDF) and with using the Save As PDF option in FM, how on earth do I apply the 
right joboptions?

 

Any and all help is sincerely appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Re: [Framers] Frame vs InDesign

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I do not know anything about InDesign's export to HTML5, but I think
that you will want to switch to that format (or at least provide HTML5 
additionally) sooner or later.
When you use your software , this is much easier to read than PDF.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Frank Ripp
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:29 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' 
Subject: [Framers] Frame vs InDesign

New management is pushing for the overall use of InDesign for marketing 
collateral and technical documentation at my company.
I'm a long time Frame user, producing a set of software documentation ranging 
from release notes, installation guides, API guides, and a 160-page user guide. 
All are delivered as PDF files.

I've been asked to figure out whether or not InDesign will fit my documentation 
needs, and have many questions.


  *   Most importantly: Can InDesign generate good PDF files, with working 
links?
  *   Is InDesign good for large documents (100-160 pages), with TOCs, and lots 
of internal and external cross-references?
  *   Can I transfer my existing paragraph and character styles from Frame to 
InDesign?
  *   Can I import a Frame book into InDesign?

Has anyone out there successfully switched from Frame to Indesign?
Is this a non-starter for the type of documents I produce?

Any advice, thoughts or pointers are greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank Ripp
SR. Technical Writer
Pacific Biosciences
1305 O'Brien Drive,
Menlo Park, CA 94025
(650) 521-8315 
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Re: Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

You can download the FrameMaker help as PDF from the Adobe website:
https://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/help/help-resources.html

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Blackmon, Ramona
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:00 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Re: Contents of Framers digest... Why so many 
of us feel the way we do

Dennis,

Yes, will you please post the FrameMaker manual you have for us to use as 
reference?

Ramona Blackmon


-Original Message-
From: Framers  
On Behalf Of Dennis Hays
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 6:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Framers] Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of 
us feel the way we do

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content 
is safe.



Way back in the dark ages, when FrameMaker was first ported to Windows, I 
worked with a FM staff member, Mercedes (still fondly remember her), to address 
bugs and issues. She sent me updates via overnight courier and these were 
multiple disk sets, calling for a fresh install. The reason I remember her name 
is because we talked almost daily and installation disks arrived weekly or more 
until the issue count dropped.

Of course, I don't expect this level of customer service anymore from any 
software publisher, but through the years I have had bits and pieces of 
exemplary support. On a contract to bring a trade book to press, I worked with 
Dov over the phone as to why illustrations with schematics wouldn't reproduce 
lines. and this from the printer's site in Michigan.
More recently, I worked with Adobe to resolve an issue where importing and 
converting a MS Word document crashed FrameMaker (MS Word Track Changes caused 
the problem - this was last year).

I am not happy with the subscription model as I believe it's an egregious 
affront to hold the software hostage when missing a subscription payment. From 
a business point of view, it's a cash flow solution, reducing the seasonal 
vagaries of software sales. But it's not customer-centric.  And this is a 
problem.

A while back, someone on this forum mentioned difficulty finding a FrameMaker 
manual. I have a 1241 page Adobe PDF version dated June 1,
2021 on the cover page. It's a 46MB file, but if anyone wants a copy, I'll post 
it where it can be downloaded.

Dennis Hays
Ex-Publisher of the now-extinct InFrame Magazine

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Re: [Framers] Stefan wanted to know why so many of us Adobe users "feel" the way we do about Adobe

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

OK. I did not have such severe problems as some of you.
My impression is that Adobe and the FrameMaker development reacts 
much more quickly than "in the good old days", when there was no-one 
from Adobe to talk to. And at least now FrameMaker is as stable as
e.g. FM 7.
Adobe now also releases updates every some months to fix bugs and 
to add new features.
Some years ago there was nothing.

Yes. Everything can be better, but the situation is not as bad as some
of you imply.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:55 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Stefan wanted to know why so many of us Adobe users "feel" 
the way we do about Adobe

Because every single solitary time that I have to uninstall/reinstall an Adobe 
app., I hold my breath to see what kind of friggin' rabbit hole Adobe takes me 
down and yep, it pulled a doozy on me this week, and thanks to Adobe, I lost a 
good 2 hours' worth of work to get my system back up to 'snuff. 

 

I can give details if interested, but I just wanted to chime in to the thread 
from a few weeks ago, where someone stated that they feel that Adobe hates 
their customers. . . well, yea, I understand that feeling. I LOVE Adobe 
products. . . I HATE installing/uninstalling them and I hate that Adobe 
apparently does absolutely NO regression/system testing on their stuff when it 
comes to this.

 

Count me in as another very dissatisfied and p*ssed off Adobe customer who is 
grateful to be semi-retired and not having to deal w/ this cr*p for much longer.

 

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Re: [Framers] ps file being used by another process

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Bodvar,

When you use Save as PDF, do you use FrameMaker's internal
PDF engine? Or Distiller?
Do you get these messages also with other files or only with this book?
Are these files on a network?

As a short help I would copy all files of the book to another folder
(best locally) and create the PDF there.

When you get these messages, it sounds, as if FrameMaker has not
completed the PS creation.
Or possibly something with your anti-virus software?

Did you restart Windows?
Do others have access to these files?

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 1:24 PM
To: framers 
Subject: [Framers] ps file being used by another process

Hi Framers,

I am suddenly stuck with a new problem. When trying to print an fm file to ps 
and then distilling it I either get the message "Cannot open this file.
The file is being used by another process."
Even if I close Framemaker I still get this message.
Also, if I try to open the ps file in Distiller, I get the message that I don't 
have the permission to open the file. And when trying to change the ownership 
of the file, I just get another similar message and the file disappears.
Save as pdf gives the same kind of error messages.
And Adobe PDF is my default printer.
What could be wrong?

I'm on a deadline, so any help soon would be appreciated.
Earlier today I had no problem pdf-ing from Affinity Publisher.

Kind regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
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Re: [Framers] Maker.ini - Language Setting Question

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I checked the available info here:
https://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker65.html#framemaker
https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/ini/framemaker_2019_ini_reference.pdf

Klaus Daube says:
[Frame]
Language
UI language, default ¶ language,default spelling dictionary; depends on 
installation

That says: This parameter is set during the installation.
And that's also what I remember: You cannot change the user interface language 
after the installation.

Therefore I would ask your IT to install FrameMaker again, but now with 
Canadian English as interface language.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Craig, Alison GLI/CA
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:46 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Maker.ini - Language Setting Question


I've been given a way to control the INI file so I won't bug IT for more (with 
the re-imaging, we no longer have "Admin Privileges" on our own PCs).

I just need to know how to adjust maker.ini from US English to Canadian English.



[Frame]
- Generic information - 
Language=USEnglish




Alison Craig
Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation T  +1 604 676 4000, Ext 
160     F  +1 604 676 4111     W  greenlightinnovation.com 
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Re: [Framers] Adding a word to FM dictionary

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

When I check this in FM 2019 and 2020, "potential" is not flagged
as misspelled with UK or US English.
Your error message is:
"You cannot add potential to a dictionary. To add potential to a dictionary, 
first deselect the corresponding Find setting in the Spelling Checker Options 
dialog box."

What are your Find settings in the Spelling Options
(the options on the left side of the dialog)?
Had you changed anything here?
What happens, when you change this back to Default?

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 9:37 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Adding a word to FM dictionary

Update to the problem below: I followed Reng's advice about writing the 
dictionaries to a file to attempt a correction that way and neither the 
document dictionary nor the personal dictionary contains "potential."  Does 
anyone have any advice or ideas?

Thanks!

TVB



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OK,

 

This was happening in FM12 and now with a standalone new install with FM2019, 
so I give because as a standalone install (it was not an upgrade install), the 
dictionaries should be new and not corrupted - in theory!  The word "potential" 
is getting flagged as a possible misspelling in my current document set, and 
based on the section that I am writing currently, it's driving me insane. If I 
right-click on a flagged instance of "potential," I can select either Learn the 
Word or Allow in Document and still get the same cryptic message:

 

"You cannot add potential to a dictionary. To add potential to a dictionary, 
first deselect the corresponding Find setting in the Spelling Checker Options 
dialog box." 

 

What friggin' Find setting? There isn't an applicable one selected. . . it's 
not a repeated word, etc.

 

Any advice on how to solve this inane problem?

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Principal/Owner

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com  

303-840-1755 

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Re: [Framers] How do I edit the personal dictionary in FM 12?

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Tom,

When you write your dictionary to a file, you can edit it with a text editor 
and delete all misspelled words. Then import the file to replace your current 
dictionary.
All is explained in the online help:
https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/using-framemaker/user-guide/frm_text_tx-dictionary-functions-dialog.html

Before your start checking, you can also write all unknown words to a file, 
edit this file and merge it with your dictionary.
That's often faster than walking through your FrameMaker file or book.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of Tom Beiswenger
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 5:23 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: [Framers] How do I edit the personal dictionary in FM 12?

I've noticed lately that the FM spell checker has missed typos that should have 
been caught. I can only assume that at some point, I clicked Learn on a 
misspelled word. I would like to check this dictionary and clean up/correct any 
misspelled item in it. How do I do this?



Tom Beiswenger
Mgr. IB Technical Documentation Project Manager

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Re: [Framers] Turning on automatic spell checker in Framemaker 2019

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Tammy,

In the Edit menu click Preferences.
Then go to the Spelling section and Spelling Options.
At the very top of the dialog there is the Auto Spell Check option.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 12:57 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Turning on automatic spell checker in Framemaker 2019

OK, don't know how, but this feature of automatic spell check in 2019 got 
turned off and I need to turn it back on. I have gone to Edit > Preferences and 
looked all over the General options and the Spelling options and cannot find it 
for the life of me. Where please do I turn on this feature?

Thank you!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Re: [Framers] Regular Expressions

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

Yes! Regular expressions are extremely valuable!
I use regular expressions in scripts very rarely. But that's only because I 
will have 
to learn, how to use them in scripts.
I use regular expressions mainly for these tasks:
o Select a certain group of files in my file manager. Modify file names.
  (I really like Total Commander!)
o  Use Notepad++ to modify text from our software terminology (special format) 
and other texts.
o And of course in FrameMaker, when I have more complex search/replace tasks.

Best regards

Winfried

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From: Framers 
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Of r...@rickquatro.com
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 5:28 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Regular Expressions

Regular expressions are so useful in a lot of different contexts, including 
FrameMaker, ExtendScript, XSLT, Notepad++, etc. I just did an ExtendScript job 
this morning that uses regular expressions to parse out comma-separated text. 
Once I figured out the regular expression pattern, the rest of it was easy. 
Thanks for posting the link.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-729-6746
r...@frameexpert.com
http://www.frameexpert.com/store

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:38 AM
To: Techshoret List ; Framers List 

Subject: [Framers] Regular Expressions

   I found this great site for regular expressions. [1]https://regexr.com/

   It has a really nice summary of the regular expressions syntax - click
   on Cheatsheet - and a test area where you can test your regular
   expressions.

   Note that in FrameMaker, the regular expression A-Z finds lowercase
   letters also, unless you select Consider Case.

   HTH

   --
   Shmuel Wolfson
   Technical Writer
   058-763-7133

References

   1. https://regexr.com/ 
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Re: [Framers] Welcome to the new FrameUsers List Mom

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

Carol, thank you very much for your service for us!
And Bernard, thank you very much for helping us as our list mom!

I follow this list for many years now. Very valuable! Thank you!

Best regards

Winfried

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From: Framers 
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Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 7:03 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Welcome to the new FrameUsers List Mom

Hi everyone,

I wanted to introduce you to the new FrameUsers List Mom. It is none other than 
 (drum roll please)...

Bernard Aschwanden

Already well known and well loved by many of us on the list, Bernard will be a 
great List Mom, and I have every confidence that he will maintain the integrity 
and quality of the listserv.

I think the handover will go really smoothly, but if you do experience any 
bumps or anomalies, please let Bernard know. Email him at 
listad...@frameusers.com

It has been such a pleasure working with you all. And it is YOU who make this 
list rock. Keep doing what you've been doing.

Carol Elkins
former List Mom 
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Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Wendy,

Yes. Thank you for your comments!
When you can create a virtual box on your PC, you can install a test version of 
FrameMaker 2020 there.

SetPrint is a little freeware utiliy. Just download the dll and copy it into 
the specified folder.
Create a small text file SetPrint.ini (as described on the SetPrint website) 
and put it into  the same folder as the dll.
Then close and restart FrameMaker.
That's it.
https://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 2:39 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across 
pages? and SetPrint Qs

I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes from 
Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that somebody 
actually does have some good experience with the software.) I would like to try 
the free trial of the new version but don't know if our IT department has a 
nonproduction computer that I could put it on that wouldn't screw anything up 
with our current Frame.

Thanks to those who have replied. I did have a good laugh at Peter Gold's note: 
 "When I've had to wrestle with this issue, if there was time, and willingness 
to cooperate, I'd try to work with the author to re-write or re-order the 
material." We're dealing with lawyers here-we can barely get them to submit 
materials in the first place, let alone revise (most of them are volunteer 
authors, so there is no incentive other than getting their name in the book and 
having contributed to the book as an expert on the topic).

I actually had thought of SetPrint-does anyone know how to get a copy of it? We 
have just two people now, so that's all we would need. We're on Windows 10, 
Frame 7.0, using Acrobat X Pro. Does it have to be installed by an Admin or is 
it simply something we could put in the Frame software folder ourselves?

Wendy McGovern


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Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I use FM 2020, and I would never go back!

Regarding your font issue: Do you use the SetPrint utility?
With this small plug-in you can set a default printer only for FrameMaker,
e.g. Adobe PDF. This way nothing will change, when you create your
PDF files.
The file name extension of your PostScript files will always be ps and not prn.
As FM 2020 has its own publishing engine, you do not need this plugin in FM 
2020.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Wendy McGovern
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 5:25 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

Hi, Framers!

We have been using Frame 7.0 forever and it has always been stable and worked 
for us, so we never upgraded (especially after hearing complaints from this 
list about the interface, problems, etc. of subsequent versions). We do have 
font issues in creating PDFs with the latest Acrobat, where switching printer 
drivers (we print to Postscript and distill to PDF) can cause slight font 
differences. Most of the time it doesn't cause any problems, but there have 
been instances of some bumped text.

I think we finally may switch to the latest Frame (will be using unstructured). 
I looked at the website demo and it looks like the basic product is the same; 
we just would have to get used to the different UI with its pods. But I 
couldn't believe they actually have fixed the footnote problem where the 
footnote bumps to the next page if it won't fit on the same page as its 
reference number.

I'm still a little skeptical, though, whether the new version actually "splits" 
the footnote like Word does and puts part of the note on the next page or 
whether the new Frame just moves the whole note to be on the same page as the 
reference number, leaving a big ugly gap on the page.

I'm also worried we'll have to go without IXGEN anymore, as I understand it 
only works with 32-bit and the new Frame is strictly 64-bit.

I love our good ol' Frame, but am tired of worrying about the font changes in 
PDFing and having to manually wrangle footnotes. Can anyone give me any advice 
on how good the latest version is? Now that it's subscription only, will we be 
stuck having to upgrade as new versions come out, whether we want to or not?

Wendy McGovern



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Re: [Framers] Appallingly slow linked graphics: UPDATE

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I would also test, if your anti-virus application is involved.
Just switch it off for a test and see, if this changes anything.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 6:06 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Appallingly slow linked graphics: UPDATE

It's not a memory size issue with the VM, as upping it from 4 GB to 16 GB 
didn't affect the loading speed. 

Tomorrow I'll try relocating the JPEGs to a folder local to the Windows VM.

--
Steve
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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 cursors and Adobe products

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Robert,

Yes. This was correct for old versions.
However, with FM 2019 (as far as I recall) FM was updated,
so that it observes settings like scaling for your monitor, etc.
And obviously also the mouse pointer.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 8:54 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Windows 10 cursors and Adobe products

FrameMaker isn't a normal Windows application. Since FM9 it has used a 
proprietary UI layer instead.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:59 AM Simon BUCH  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Windows 10 allows for mouse cursor pointers to be customised, and so I 
> when I give training course, I like to use a larger mouse pointer, and 
> colour it so that you can see it more easily when your video output it 
> for a projector.
>
> The larger mouse pointers work well on many applications.
> Except Adobe.
>
> * Adobe Acrobat Reader shows the large size & coloured mouse pointer 
> at the expected size when viewing Help > About Adobe Acrobat Reader, 
> or when accessing dialogs, such as Edit > Preferences.  But as soon as 
> your mouse pointer touches the PDF document, it shrivels to the 
> standard monochrome pointer at the default Windows size.
>
> * Adobe FrameMaker 2017 appears to use some historic UI constructs.
> Click inside your document, and the mouse pointer stays large, but 
> becomes badly blocky and monochrome, and looks like it's an 8 bit 
> application with zero anti-aliasing, completely devoid of any colour 
> concept.  The structure view is similarly affected.
>
> Does anyone else have accessibility issues with Adobe Products? 

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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 cursors and Adobe products

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

Yes. In Acrobat the mouse pointer size is ignored.
You could create a bug report here:
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/home

However, in FM 2020 a large mouse pointer is still large.
You cannot expect that FM 2017 would be fixed.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Simon BUCH
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:00 AM
To: Framers 
Subject: [Framers] Windows 10 cursors and Adobe products

Hello,

Windows 10 allows for mouse cursor pointers to be customised, and so I when I 
give training course, I like to use a larger mouse pointer, and colour it so 
that you can see it more easily when your video output it for a projector.

The larger mouse pointers work well on many applications.
Except Adobe.

* Adobe Acrobat Reader shows the large size & coloured mouse pointer at the 
expected size when viewing Help > About Adobe Acrobat Reader, or when accessing 
dialogs, such as Edit > Preferences.  But as soon as your mouse pointer touches 
the PDF document, it shrivels to the standard monochrome pointer at the default 
Windows size.

* Adobe FrameMaker 2017 appears to use some historic UI constructs. Click 
inside your document, and the mouse pointer stays large, but becomes badly 
blocky and monochrome, and looks like it's an 8 bit application with zero 
anti-aliasing, completely devoid of any colour concept.  The structure view is 
similarly affected.

Does anyone else have accessibility issues with Adobe Products?

// Simon BUCH 

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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Alison,

Do you have this issue for all paragraphs? No matter in which paragraph
your insertion mark is?
If only in a specific paragraph, there is a special paragraph property which you
can see only in MIF. This would allow only that you enter text, but you cannot
change the paragraph format.
Enter some characters which you can find easily, e.g. ü.
Then convert to MIF, open in a text editor and search for these characters.
The paragraph could have a property nach .
Just change this to No. Save and open in FrameMaker.

If this is not the case, your description does not match my Paragraph Designer.
I have only a single checkbox for Small Caps/Uppercase/Lowercase and not two
as you describe.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of A Craig
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:18 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base)

Win 7 Pro

64 bit

 

 

I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away from 
Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come back to 
me.

 

I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set the 
Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't retain a 
specific setting.

 

Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes for 
both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't enter 
an upper case letter in the text). 

 

No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of 
deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.

 

Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? 

 

Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've 
worked on so far.

 

FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm 
hanging indent. 

 

Alison 
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Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Alison,

FrameMaker creates PDF files via Save As PDF with its own engine.
The printer is not involved. This works very well.

There can be requirements that you create the PDF via Distiller,
but this is also automated. You can still use Save As PDF.

You do not need to print to a PostScript file.
SetPrint cannot be installed (FM 2020 is 64 bit) and is not needed.
There isn't any headless Distiller in FM 2020.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of A Craig
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:35 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Cc: 'Jeff Coatsworth' 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker

Thanks 

And I take it from your reply that the SetPrint issue still exists but SetPrint 
hasn't (yet?) been updated to handle Frame 2020...


-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: April 6, 2021 11:26 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker

In that case, you don't need to worry - there's an entirely new PDF generator 
in FM2020 & SetPrint won't work with FM2020 anymore.


From: Framers
 on behalf 
of A Craig 
Sent: April 6, 2021 2:10 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker

It's the latest version.

I'm sure I saw "2020" in the download title although I wasn't aware that a
2020 version was available (it's a subscription through an affiliated office in 
Austria).

Alison

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:39 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker

What version of FM?



From: Framers <

framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on
behalf of A Craig <  acr...@shaw.ca>

Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM
To:   framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker

I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my current 
job.

I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured FrameMaker 
with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain checkbox 
had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be installed in a 
particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 years so I need to 
know if that will cause issues).

I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does 
that still exist and is it still necessary?

It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last job.

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Alison 

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Re: [Framers] "Publish to pdf" crashes FM16 every time

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Sue,

Your FrameMaker version is the latest one. That's good.
Some questions:
Only Save as PDF does not work? Print to a PostScript file is OK?
Can you activate/deactivate the option Use Acrobat Distiller for
PDF generation (in the Publish pod, PDF, settings file).
Do you have this issue with all your books and single files?
Structured and non-structured?
Also when you create a new file with the FrameMaker default
templates?
When this started, was there anything special? Did you install
another application? Any software updates? Windows updates?
Any changes in your anti-virus application?
Can you save as PDF when you deactivate your anti-virus application?

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Sue Thomson
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 10:01 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] "Publish to pdf" crashes FM16 every time

Hi fellow framers

In recent weeks I have become unable to publish to pdf. FrameMaker crashes 
every time I try. I have to resort to "print to pdf" then find something useful 
to do while I wait.

I have tried different settings files but it makes no difference. I don't know 
what else to try.

Does anyone have any ideas, please?

FYI: I am working with FM v16.0.1, producing structured books containing around 
20-30 files The files contain many small graphics (*.png, *.jpg, or *.ai), all 
of which are imported by reference from directories beneath the handbook 
directory. The finished pdfs are usually 300-600 pages long.

Regards

Sue Thomson MISTC
Senior Technical Author


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Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Bertrand,

Yes, I would also like such a spot cross-reference!
This is an old feature request. If this gets enough attention,
this might make it into the next release.
You can vote here:
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2294

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Bertrand Meyer
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:56 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Cc: me...@inf.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs

Dear Steve and Lin,

 

Thanks for the comments. A cross-references forces me to use a cross-reference 
format for the link, e.g. "section 4.5". I cannot use a reference format, I 
want to use an arbitrary text for the linking text, as in "this is explained in 
the discussion of cat problems", where the underlined text (I hope the mailing 
list mailer keeps the underline) is my own text but a link to some chosen place.

 

Hyperlinks to this but force me in each case to add two commands, a gotolink at 
the source and a newlink at the target, which is horrendously tedious if one 
has thousands such cases. The newlink is not conceptually necessary since all 
the targets are paragraphs so I should be able simply to choose from a 
paragraph list as with cross-references.

 

With best regards,

 

-- Bertrand Meyer

 

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+bertrand.meyer=inf.ethz...@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 14:50
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs

 

>I must be missing something here, or misunderstanding what you are

>trying to do. A cross-reference is a hyperlink. If you are using a

>specific paragraph tag for your target, why not just use a cross-reference?

 

I'm glad you posted this, Lin. I was about to do the same, but then my Inner 
Voice said "Nah - you've been out of the loop too long: you're missing 
something. Keep quiet." :-)

 

--

Steve

 

'I see you have a cat problem' 'I don't have a cat' 'That's your cat problem'

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker and transparency

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

Bernd Meissner described this in the Adobe forum:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/how-do-you-bring-a-white-image-with-a-transparent-background-into-frame-without-a-white-box-overlay/m-p/10439265?page=1#M60974

There he also added a link to a detailed description:
http://www.meissner-dokuteam.de/Files/Frame/Transparency2_p250.pdf

Best regards

Winfried

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From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:03 AM
To: Framers ; poshe...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker and transparency

Hi Ken,

Short answer: yes it does. Fm supports transparency in EPS files. 

But: you don’t see it on screen. And, it only works when printing to a 
postscript printer (or pdf).


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> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Short question: Does FrameMaker 10 support transparency (i.e., no background) 
> in imported graphics or not?
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Re: [Framers] X-ref issue: FM links that work in the FM file but don't work in the PDF file that is generated from it

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

In Acrobat open the "Edit PDF" tool.
Click on the Link icon and select "Add/Edit Web or Document Link".
This will highlight all links (e.g. cross-references).
When you right-click on a link and select properties,
you can check in the Action tab the destination.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of Peter Gold
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:58 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] X-ref issue: FM links that work in the FM file but don't 
work in the PDF file that is generated from it

IIRC there's a way to expose the information in links within a PDF. Perhaps the 
"missing link" to the failure can be found there. Unfortunately, I've forgotten 
how to do that magic.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:39 AM Rick Quatro  wrote:

> What version of FrameMaker are you using? If you have the PDF Setup 
> dialog box, make sure you check the "Create Named Destinations for All 
> Elements and Paragraphs" checked in the Links tab of the dialog box.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> 
> On
> Behalf Of barry.meis...@nuvoton.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 11:33 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] X-ref issue: FM links that work in the FM file but 
> don't work in the PDF file that is generated from it
>
> Greetings,
> A cross-reference problem has cropped up in FM-to-PDF generation.
> Links that work in an FM file (i.e., when you double click on a link, 
> clicking the resulting "Go to Source" button jumps you to the correct
> source) do NOT always work when the file is converted to PDF.
> This means that to check the validity of x-refs, you cannot rely on 
> the FM file but have to search the PDF file.
> (Needless to say, this is extremely tedious...) I suspect that the 
> phenomenon is caused by a combination of conditional text and X-ref 
> markers that have somehow been perverted but what I don't understand 
> is why FM doesn't (or can't) identify the perverted links as "bad links".
> If you have any ideas, TIA,
> Barry Meislin 
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Re: [Framers] Acrobat DC & Frame etc

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Caroline,

The features which you list are not in Acrobat Reader.
Therefore you would have to buy a licence or subscription.
FrameMaker comes only with an add-on which can create
PDFs from your FrameMaker files.

Here are comparisons of the different versions:
https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/acrobat/pricing.html
https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/acrobat/pricing/compare-versions.html#

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 10:21 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: [Framers] Acrobat DC & Frame etc

Hi.

I have Frame 2017 on my system and Acrobat Pro DC, as part of Creative suite.

For some reason, IT have decided to remove the Acrobat (and creative suite)

1. Will I still be able to create PDF files, or will they have to reinstall 
Frame in order to be able to use the built in PDF in Frame?

2. What won't I be able to do to PDF files if I only have the version that 
comes with Frame?

I currently add password protection to files, make numbering of pdf match file 
numbering, extract pages, edit files.

What functionality will I be losing?

Thanks



Caroline Tabach 
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Re: [Framers] Book and Doc Templates.

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I also use PureText. Very handy, not only for FrameMaker
(e.g. Outlook, Excel, etc.)!
http://stevemiller.net/puretext/

When I reformat Word imports, I copy my heading format
into the clipboard and then search for the numbering of the
equivalent Word format with regular expressions or wildcards. 
Then paste the clipboard content.
Or you can search for the Word paragraph format in FrameMaker
and then paste your format.
The same with list formats.

Yes, tables and graphics must be handled separately.

Best regards

Winfried

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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 7:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Book and Doc Templates.

I use PureText for copying and pasting as plain text. It works with everything 
I use. 

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Re: [Framers] Little teeny tiny PDF images

[Reng Winfried]

Hi John,

Yes. I had seen this, but this was some years ago.
I cannot remember, why this happened and what I did.
Here someone reported probably the same problem:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/frame-11-creating-small-pdfs/m-p/4742997?page=1

What's your FrameMaker version?
How do you create the PDF?

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: [Framers] Little teeny tiny PDF images

Hi, guys...has anyone experienced where they output Frame files to PDF and the 
output is little tiny images, like 1/1900 in sizeit doesn't happen all the 
time and I don't know how it happens or how it gets fixed.

Ever see that?

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Re: [Framers] Script for adding variables to FM

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Carla,

itl developped a FrameScript for this:
http://www.i-frame.itl.info/en/feature-description/i-frame-modules/extended-pack/import-variable-definitions/

Klaus Müller from itl is very helpful!

Best regards

Winfried

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Is anyone aware of a script for adding/creating variables from a list/table?

Ideally, you'd have the variable on one column, and the values on the other.


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Re: [Framers] Applying Show/Hide Conditional Settings

[Reng Winfried]

Hi John,

When there are bullets without content, then the paragraph mark
does not have the condition.
When this is at the end of a flow (in a table cell or at the end of the
main text flow), then add an empty paragraph without condition
after the paragraph with the condition.

You asked whether you can import regular expressions into other files.
I checked this and could import the regular expressions from another
file.
Just use File | Import | Formats. Then select Conditional Text Settings.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Applying Show/Hide Conditional Settings

Robert...I think this can work. I have to do some tweeks, like add a default 
condition for sections and files that don't have an owner yet so that I can 
exclude those sections from each "personal SME book build". I should be able to 
define 19 expressions, one for each content owner.

I also noticed that some tiny snippets got through. like some bullets without 
content, stuff like that. However, it has potential.

Question...I have a "RunBookTemplate" document where I define all of my styles, 
and when I define or modify a style, I make it in the template, then copy the 
appropriate formats to all the files in the book from the tempalte. Can I store 
my Expressions in that document and when I create a new document or add a new 
Expression, replicate the new or modified Expressions to the new document or 
all the documents in the book?

Anyway..thanks for the tip...I think this is going to work for me.

Thank you
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Re: [Framers] FM19 Publish PDF Problem

[Reng Winfried]

Hi John,

I remember vaguely that sometimes the PDF printer was not 
installed correctly. Users just had to install a trial version of the 
current Acrobat version and then this feature worked. 
It was not needed to upgrade Acrobat entirely.

FrameMaker 2019 does not care which printer is the default printer 
or which printer is selected for Save As PDF or Publish to PDF.
(I always have set our local printer, and use Distiller to create the PDF,
and it still works. And Amitoj Singh had confirmed this.)

Please correct me, when I am wrong. You just installed FrameMaker,
and you might remember this. I think that there isn't any option
to install or not install any headless Distiller with FrameMaker 2019. 
FrameMaker uses its own PDF engine.

What did you set in the Publish pod to create your PDF? With Distiller or 
without?

Best regards

Winfried

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Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:39 PM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp 
Cc: Framers 
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM19 Publish PDF Problem

I just got offline with Adobe Tech Support. It seems I need to upgrade to
Acrobat Pro DC. I'm going to bring down a trial to verify that the issue
gets resolved.


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:27 PM Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> we had a similar issue lately - it turned out to be a Windows10 problem:
> running windows update solved it.
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
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Re: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

In a previous job the figure numbers and table numbers
were a combination of the chapter number and a running
number in this file:
Figure x-x
Table x-x

This works only, when the figure and table format use the 
same series as heading1.
This is an argument for a single all-in-one numbering scheme.
I do not use the chapnum placeholder, as I want to be free to
have several chapters in a single file.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

>So, have you found any drawbacks to this approach, other than the 
>problem
of getting other users to refer to the reference page? 

The only problem I've run into is when an extra heading needs to be added 
in--assuming you want all the heading markers all in a row and not randomly 
placed anywhere in the code as they are added. The code has to be updated 
everywhere if it's an all-in-one code. Nothing that can't be overcome, but I've 
always found it a lot easier if the headings are a separate list--simply create 
a new heading level (e.g. Heading6), add another  before the last , and 
done.

Also, sometimes I only want users to use the editing features--catalogs, spell 
checker, find/change, user variables, etc.--and stay away from the reference 
pages, master pages, and the various designers. 
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Re: [Framers] Make numbering of Acrobat match Frame numbers automatically

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Caroline,

Rick Quatro has a script PageLabelerES that adapts the numbering
in the PDF to the numbering in FrameMaker:
http://www.frameexpert.com/store/index.html

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: [Framers] Make numbering of Acrobat match Frame numbers automatically

Hi,

My PDF of a user guide made from a FrameMaker book has the front matter 
numbered with Roman numerals, so the numbers of the PDF do not match those of 
the Frame file.  (Frame p1 is PDF p9).

I have found and adjusted instructions to make the numbering match

https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/PDF17.html

(It is different in the latest version of Acrobat, as these controls seem to be 
more hidden).
But it needs to be done manually each time.
Is there any way to automate this, or set these settings in FrameMaker to carry 
over to Acrobat?

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Trouble with Responsive HTML on a network drive

[Reng Winfried]

Hi John,

What happens, when you copy your working output to a network drive?
Or when you copy your non-working network output to a local drive?

When I convert something to a network drive, everything is fine.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: [Framers] Trouble with Responsive HTML on a network drive

Good morning, everyone.

For the first time using FrameMaker, I'm exploring generating outputs other 
than PDF.

I'm exploring Responsive HTML.

When I generate, through Publish, to a local drive, everything is great.
However, when I switch the output folder to a network drive (only difference), 
it generates fine, but when I try to launch the project, I get that it cannot 
reach the page. Even if I go to the location and launch the Index.html, I get 
that it can't reach the page.

I'm going to guess this is a permissions type of issue. Before I go to my 
network people,  is there any input you can give me that makes me appear less 
of a dunce?

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Doug,

Just add a comment in the Adobe Tracker. That's fine.
I also notice issues and cannot reproduce them next
time. 
Possibly there was something special with your test file.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

5570 seems to no longer be an issue.  Strange.  I can't reproduce it either.

I don't see a way to change the status of the request, however.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 2:40 AM Reng Winfried 
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> Hi Doug,
>
> I cannot reproduce issue 5570.
> When I save the document and then delete a condition tag and try to 
> close the document, I get a message whether I want to save. 
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Doug,

I cannot reproduce issue 5570.
When I save the document and then delete a 
condition tag and try to close the document,
I get a message whether I want to save.

5971
Is ist an issue, if your cross-reference is clickable?
When it looks the same as the text before and after
the reference, the reader does not notice that this
reference is clickable.
Still I see that this request pops up from time to time.

6739
I remember that I had experienced something similar
some time ago. However, I cannot remember exactly.
And I did not test this now.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

I've submitted a Feature Request for this:FRMAKER-7643
<https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-7643>

I've three others as well, all with zero votes (sigh).  Please consider voting 
those those as well, everyone.

FRMAKER-6739 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6739>
FRMAKER-5971 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5971>
FRMAKER-5570 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5570>

Thanks!

Doug

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I am not sure which object properties you want to show.
>
> When your object properties pod is open, you see the properties of 
> inserted graphics.
>
> When you click Insert | Anchored Frame, this opens the Anchored Frame 
> pod.
> When you now click on any anchored frame, the pod shows immediately 
> the dimensions and the anchoring.
>
> However, you will not get the properties of text frames or of 
> FrameMaker graphics objects (lines, rectangles, etc.).
> Create a new request in the Adobe Tracker:
> https://tracker.adobe.com/
> Post the issue number, and I will vote for it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use 
> modal Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace 
> while they are on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and 
> anchored frames, which use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all 
> the time.
>
> I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless 
> manner.  It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic 
> frames vs. image/anchored frames.
>
> In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set 
> by other Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object 
> > Properties pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
> >
> > Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the 
> > screen, then save as a workspace.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> > > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I 
> > > don't want to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog 
> > > to always be on
> > the
> > > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> > >
> > > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Doug 
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Doug,

I am not sure which object properties you want to show.

When your object properties pod is open, you see the 
properties of inserted graphics.

When you click Insert | Anchored Frame, this opens the 
Anchored Frame pod.
When you now click on any anchored frame, the pod 
shows immediately the dimensions and the anchoring.

However, you will not get the properties of text frames
or of FrameMaker graphics objects (lines, rectangles, etc.).
Create a new request in the Adobe Tracker:
https://tracker.adobe.com/
Post the issue number, and I will vote for it.

Best regards

Winfried

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Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

Thanks for the response.

Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal 
Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace while they are 
on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and anchored frames, which 
use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all the time.

I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless manner.  
It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic frames vs. 
image/anchored frames.

In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set by other 
Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object 
> Properties pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
>
> Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen, 
> then save as a workspace.
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
>
> > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't 
> > want to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to 
> > always be on
> the
> > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> >
> > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug 
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Re: [Framers] weird bug - Variable at start of paragraph sometimes vanishes

[Reng Winfried]

Hi John,

Yes. I had encounterd this issue as well.
In my rememberance I had imported variable formats although 
the variables had a condition applied and this condition was hidden.

I think that I had to show everything and then import the variable 
formats again. Or show everything and then select the variable
and change its value. Or search for the (invisible) variable (this worked
and replace it with the variable from the clipboard. I do not remember.
As Tammy had already described.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] weird bug - Variable at start of paragraph sometimes 
vanishes

Hi John,

Weird indeed, but what is even weirder is that I encountered this problem 
myself a couple of months ago when I was using ePub to convert my FM source to 
HTML5. It was one flippin' variable out of many that I  had in the source files 
and it also involved conditional text. I know this is really, really pulling at 
straws, but a couple of plug-ins that I was using and therefore, affecting the 
Framemaker FDK, appeared to be the issue. (It was a head-banging, 
feet-stomping, gut-wailing  investigation), but this was what appeared to work:

The solution is to open each FM document that is generating with missing 
variables and do the following:
- From the 'Show/Hide Conditional Text' tab, select the 'Show All' radio button 
(make sure to have the show condition indicators selected) and then select 
'Apply'.
- confirm that the conditional text settings are as expected and where there 
are problems fix.
-  From the 'Show/Hide Conditional Text' tab, select the 'Show As Per 
Condition" radio button (make sure to have the show condition indicators 
deselected), set the conditions accordingly, and then select 'Apply'. Do this 
for both conditons.
- Save the FrameMaker file.

All my FrameMaker files were stable after that.

And short of assuming that I somehow had pleased the previously pissed-off 
FrameMaker gods, I have no other explanation as to why this worked (I had my 
rationale for it at the time), but it did.

I feel your pain.

TVB


Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 12:16 PM
To: Framers List 
Subject: [Framers] weird bug - Variable at start of paragraph sometimes vanishes

I've never seen this before; it looks like a bug.
FM2015, unstructured.
I have a big book with many variables and some conditions. In many (but not
all) cases, a variable that starts a paragraph is present but invisible.
Specifically,
*Note: AGM only.*
AGM is the variable. In some places I see *Note AGM only.* and in many places I 
see *Note  only.* The latter still have the variable marker in place and 
selectable, and when I select it, the invisible marker is still assigned to the 
variable with the value AGM.
If I replace the variable, then it appears and it seems to stay, but I don't 
know why it vanished in the first place, how to reproduce it, or how to make it 
never happen again.
A clue: The doc originally had many many AGM only notes as text. Then we 
started rebranding the product while keeping our own name as well, publishing 
"blue" and "orange" versions of the doc. For the orange version, the variable = 
AGM, and for the blue doc it's IVGM. To set the variable throughout the doc, I 
replaced the text AGM with the variable, then copied the variable and did a 
Find/Replace By Pasting (not a text Find/Replace).
That got the variable into place everywhere. I am not sure that's a factor, 
because I think there are too many notes that still show the variable to 
account for them all having been manual operations (and thus the bu came from 
the automated F/R step).
Has anyone seen this?
Is there any solution other than manually replacing each invisible variable?

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Re: [Framers] "Editing" a PDF in Adobe Reader DC

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Tammy,

When you already have Acrobat DC, then I would install
Acrobat Reader only in a virtual machine for testing.

When your SMEs add comments in the PDF and want to
print, they have to remember to select "Document and Markups"
in the Print dialog. Otherwise the comments do not get printed.

Best regards

Winfried

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] "Editing" a PDF in Adobe Reader DC

Hi All,

 

I know that the standard Edit functions are not available, but you can use the 
Comment tool to draw on, use text, etc. right? I need to produce PDFs for my 
client's SMEs for editing and they do not have Adobe Acrobat DC and obviously 
do not want to pay for the tool just to edit.  I would ordinarily do a free 
download and confirm, but I have Adobe Acrobat Pro/DC installed on every one of 
my systems and I whole-heartedly remember Dov's warning against having the full 
suite and Reader installed on the same system - i.e., DON'T!

 

Thanks! 

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Principal/Owner

Spectrum Writing, LLC

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Re: [Framers] Auto-assign color to change bars

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Lin,

The Change Bar properties are in Format | Document |
Change Bars. The properties are part of the Page Layout.
Therefore you can make these properties part of your template 
and import the Page Layout with the Change Bar Properties 
into other files.
Does this help or do you already know all this?

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Monique Semp 
Cc: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Auto-assign color to change bars

I must not have been clear.

I know you can reset the color using Change Bar Properties. The annoyance is 
you can only do it on a file-by-file or a book-by-book basis.

I don't want to have to go into Change Bar Properties to do this. I want it to 
be part of the default preferences I can set for FrameMaker, so that when I 
turn the automatic change bar property on, I don't also have to set the color 
and position, it is already set the way I want. In other words, I want to be 
able to go into something like the Preferences screen and say, make my change 
bars red anytime I have them on.

As I said, kinda petty, but I figure if they can automatically set it to 
default to Black, there's no reason the default color can't be set to some 
other color, right?

Oddly, I appear to have given the same response Monique gave back in February 
to someone in the Adobe Forums who wanted to do something similar.
:D Funny how things come around, innit?

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:42 AM Monique Semp 
wrote:

> Yes, one can change it, in the "Change Bar Properties". I'm betting 
> the "how" differs based on FrameMaker version, so perhaps check out 
> the image results for a google search:
> https://www.google.com/search?q=framemaker+change+bar+color=isch
> ource=hp=X=2ahUKEwiHsJ3Y6arkAhUJF6wKHcjOBdAQ7Al6BAgFECQ
> .
>
> -Monique
>
> On 8/30/19 7:34 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
>
> I find it very irritating that the change bar color defaults to Black, 
> when I want Red. Is there a command I can add to maker.ini or one of 
> the .cfg files that will make it default to red.
>
> Petty, I know, but it scratches at me.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Framers] Grammar/Cross References

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Alison,

See section 1.2 f. means that the content is not only in section
1.2,  but also in 1.3.
See section 1.2 ff. means that the content is in section 1.2 and
the following sections.
(Similar to f for forte and ff for fortissimo in music.)
There isn't a German word "fortfolgend". That's a common misunderstanding.
I do not see this abbreviation often. Mostly it is used with pages,
but not sections.

You might just add "and the following sections".

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of A Craig
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:47 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] OT: Grammar/Cross References

I know this is off topic, but my internet searches have proven fruitless. 

I am in the middle of (legally) re-branding an English, white label manual 
(originally written in German) to ship with a product manufactured by another 
company. 

My problem is with some of the cross references as many of them are followed by 
the abbreviation "ff". (eg, " See Section 11.3 ff. ") 

According to a German engineer currently in training here, "f" means "folgende" 
(following) and "ff" is "fort folgende" (continue following). 

Is anyone familiar with this format? And is there an equivalent in English? My 
first guess is that any equivalent would actually be a Latin abbreviation 
rather than English—but I've come up blank on both. 

All suggestions will be gratefully accepted. 

Alison
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Hedley,

Nice to hear from you!
Yes. You can buy a regular personal licence
and install it on your own PC.
Or you can subscribe and get all upgrades (which I prefer).

Best regards

Winfried

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Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 5:54 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

I've been away for a very long time. Is it possible to download FM with a 
licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only available by
(crippling) monthly subscription?

Regards to friends old and new.
Hedley

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Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Art,

Here is the info which Amitoj Singh sent me:
Basically this new flag enables the new GDI based image creation 
for HTML5. Earlier we were using a different technology for the same 
which made it slow but with this flag enabled we use the new workflow 
for HTML5/Save as XML image generation.

He also said that the quality of the graphics conversion 
is the same as before.
Therefore you can safely set this option in your conversion
projects to avoid any issues.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of Reng Winfried
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 8:29 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

Hi Art,

No. He did not give an explanation. I'll ask him.
When he provided this fix, I was just glad that this worked.

Winfried 

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 4:07 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

Reng,
I think the question being asked now is why you had the problem and what the 
ini line fixes or changes Did Singh tell you?

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 7:26 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Caroline,
>
> Thank you very much for asking. All graphics are referenced.
> Amitoj Singh from Adobe had already provided a solution.
> In maker.ini in the Preferences section add this option:
> GenerateBitmapWithGDI=ON
>
> When I converted again, all graphics were converted correctly!
> Very simple and very fast fix!
> I had already posted this to the Framers community.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Caroline 
> Tabach
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 12:58 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of 
> all graphics
>
> Are the graphics copied, or imported by reference?
>
> Caroline Tabach
>
> On Fri, 3 May 2019, 12:43 Reng Winfried, 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a rather large documentation which I want to convert to HTML5
> > (400 pages in PDF, 660 referenced vector EPS graphics).
> > However, FrameMaker converts only about 10 % of all graphics 
> > correctly to JPG.
> > All other graphics are converted to white rectangles.
> > FrameMaker converts to real graphics up to a certain page, and from 
> > then on only white rectangles.
> > The file names are correct; the graphics are pure white.
> > There is no difference between the original graphics. All were 
> > created in the last years or months.
> >
> > In the Image settings the default format is JPG. (PNG is worse.) 
> > Reference page images are imported.
> > Apart from this no changes to the default, no margins, no borders, 
> > no scaling.
> >
> > I already copied eveything to a local drive, restarted FrameMaker, 
> > restarted Windows, opened all files during the conversion.
> > When I do not restart FrameMaker I get only white rectangles.
> > When I restart FrameMaker and start the conversion, then the white 
> > rectangles always start with the same topic.
> > On the network everything takes longer, but the white graphics start 
> > on the same topic.
> >
> > When I convert another document with about 300 pages and 300 JPG 
> > graphics, everything is fine.
> >
> > The only difference is that these graphics are already JPG.
> > My PC is OK: i7, 16 GB RAM, 54 GB empty disc space.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Winfried 
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Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Art,

No. He did not give an explanation. I'll ask him.
When he provided this fix, I was just glad that this worked.

Winfried 

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of Art Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 4:07 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

Reng,
I think the question being asked now is why you had the problem and what the 
ini line fixes or changes Did Singh tell you?

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 7:26 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Caroline,
>
> Thank you very much for asking. All graphics are referenced.
> Amitoj Singh from Adobe had already provided a solution.
> In maker.ini in the Preferences section add this option:
> GenerateBitmapWithGDI=ON
>
> When I converted again, all graphics were converted correctly!
> Very simple and very fast fix!
> I had already posted this to the Framers community.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Caroline 
> Tabach
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 12:58 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of 
> all graphics
>
> Are the graphics copied, or imported by reference?
>
> Caroline Tabach
>
> On Fri, 3 May 2019, 12:43 Reng Winfried, 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a rather large documentation which I want to convert to HTML5
> > (400 pages in PDF, 660 referenced vector EPS graphics).
> > However, FrameMaker converts only about 10 % of all graphics 
> > correctly to JPG.
> > All other graphics are converted to white rectangles.
> > FrameMaker converts to real graphics up to a certain page, and from 
> > then on only white rectangles.
> > The file names are correct; the graphics are pure white.
> > There is no difference between the original graphics. All were 
> > created in the last years or months.
> >
> > In the Image settings the default format is JPG. (PNG is worse.) 
> > Reference page images are imported.
> > Apart from this no changes to the default, no margins, no borders, 
> > no scaling.
> >
> > I already copied eveything to a local drive, restarted FrameMaker, 
> > restarted Windows, opened all files during the conversion.
> > When I do not restart FrameMaker I get only white rectangles.
> > When I restart FrameMaker and start the conversion, then the white 
> > rectangles always start with the same topic.
> > On the network everything takes longer, but the white graphics start 
> > on the same topic.
> >
> > When I convert another document with about 300 pages and 300 JPG 
> > graphics, everything is fine.
> >
> > The only difference is that these graphics are already JPG.
> > My PC is OK: i7, 16 GB RAM, 54 GB empty disc space.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Winfried 
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Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Caroline,

Thank you very much for asking. All graphics are referenced.
Amitoj Singh from Adobe had already provided a solution.
In maker.ini in the Preferences section add this option:
GenerateBitmapWithGDI=ON

When I converted again, all graphics were converted correctly! 
Very simple and very fast fix!
I had already posted this to the Framers community.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 12:58 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

Are the graphics copied, or imported by reference?

Caroline Tabach

On Fri, 3 May 2019, 12:43 Reng Winfried, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a rather large documentation which I want to convert to HTML5 
> (400 pages in PDF, 660 referenced vector EPS graphics).
> However, FrameMaker converts only about 10 % of all graphics correctly 
> to JPG.
> All other graphics are converted to white rectangles.
> FrameMaker converts to real graphics up to a certain page, and from 
> then on only white rectangles.
> The file names are correct; the graphics are pure white.
> There is no difference between the original graphics. All were created 
> in the last years or months.
>
> In the Image settings the default format is JPG. (PNG is worse.) 
> Reference page images are imported.
> Apart from this no changes to the default, no margins, no borders, no 
> scaling.
>
> I already copied eveything to a local drive, restarted FrameMaker, 
> restarted Windows, opened all files during the conversion.
> When I do not restart FrameMaker I get only white rectangles.
> When I restart FrameMaker and start the conversion, then the white 
> rectangles always start with the same topic.
> On the network everything takes longer, but the white graphics start 
> on the same topic.
>
> When I convert another document with about 300 pages and 300 JPG 
> graphics, everything is fine.
>
> The only difference is that these graphics are already JPG.
> My PC is OK: i7, 16 GB RAM, 54 GB empty disc space.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried 
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Re: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

Amitoj Singh from Adobe provided the solution.
Add GenerateBitmapWithGDI=ON in maker.ini in the Preferences section.

This helped. Everything is converted correctly now.
Perfect!

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Reng Winfried
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 11:43 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

Hi,

I have a rather large documentation which I want to convert to HTML5 (400 pages 
in PDF, 660 referenced vector EPS graphics).
However, FrameMaker converts only about 10 % of all graphics correctly to JPG.
All other graphics are converted to white rectangles.
FrameMaker converts to real graphics up to a certain page, and from then on 
only white rectangles.
The file names are correct; the graphics are pure white.
There is no difference between the original graphics. All were created in the 
last years or months.

In the Image settings the default format is JPG. (PNG is worse.) Reference page 
images are imported.
Apart from this no changes to the default, no margins, no borders, no scaling.

I already copied eveything to a local drive, restarted FrameMaker, restarted 
Windows, opened all files during the conversion.
When I do not restart FrameMaker I get only white rectangles.
When I restart FrameMaker and start the conversion, then the white rectangles 
always start with the same topic.
On the network everything takes longer, but the white graphics start on the 
same topic.

When I convert another document with about 300 pages and 300 JPG graphics, 
everything is fine.

The only difference is that these graphics are already JPG.
My PC is OK: i7, 16 GB RAM, 54 GB empty disc space.

Can anyone help?

Best regards

Winfried 
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[Framers] HTML5: FrameMaker creates only about 10 % of all graphics

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I have a rather large documentation which I want to convert to HTML5 (400 pages 
in PDF, 660 referenced vector EPS graphics).
However, FrameMaker converts only about 10 % of all graphics correctly to JPG.
All other graphics are converted to white rectangles.
FrameMaker converts to real graphics up to a certain page, and from then on 
only white rectangles.
The file names are correct; the graphics are pure white.
There is no difference between the original graphics. All were created in the 
last years or months.

In the Image settings the default format is JPG. (PNG is worse.)
Reference page images are imported.
Apart from this no changes to the default, no margins, no borders, no scaling.

I already copied eveything to a local drive, restarted FrameMaker, restarted 
Windows, opened all files during the conversion.
When I do not restart FrameMaker I get only white rectangles.
When I restart FrameMaker and start the conversion, then the white rectangles 
always start with the same topic.
On the network everything takes longer, but the white graphics start on the 
same topic.

When I convert another document with about 300 pages and 300 JPG graphics, 
everything is fine.

The only difference is that these graphics are already JPG.
My PC is OK: i7, 16 GB RAM, 54 GB empty disc space.

Can anyone help?

Best regards

Winfried
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Re: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best practices and good documentation?

[Reng Winfried]

f the HTML topic: This can be but 
only "by accident" identical with the topic title but never should be taken as 
the standard topic title!
5.) "Most of our products have order codes like 123.4567. When I want  to 
search for such order codes, the . is interpreted as separator between   two 
words. As if I want to search for 123 and 4567. I do not know a solution."

6.) In my tests (FM 2019) using "wx.yz" seems to work, but highlighting didn't 
work - I'll ask the FM development team regarding this issue Regards Dieter 
Gust Aufsichtsrat, Leitung Forschung & Entwicklung itl AG, München
+49 89 892623-600
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Auftrag von Reng Winfried
Gesendet: Montag, 29. April 2019 12:00
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Betreff: Re: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: 
best practices and good documentation?

Hi Yves,

I also started to convert my unstructured documentation to HTML5.
And I do not have any tutorials or best practices. I am still experimenting.
I will look for more information in the online help and in the various forums 
and blogs.
My first impressions and questions:

o Default settings are good.

o I do not know which font will be used. Probably my font will be replaced
  by something else. However, I do not know, which fonts are on Android
  or iOS. Is there are default replacement?

o Graphics conversion with SVG is best. However, if you have
  some other objects in the same anchored frame, then you should
  convert to raster images. I find the results much better than I expected.

o When you have tables with table titles with several paragraphs, then
  you have to use a work-around. HTML allows only a single paragraph.
  See here: https://forums.adobe.com/message/10987920#10987920

o I do not know how I can define which text goes into a topic title.
  E.g. when my paragraph to start a new topic has a table anchor, then
  the whole anchor paragraph and the whole table text will be in the topic
  title.

o Most of our products have order codes like 123.4567. When I want
  to search for such order codes, the . is interpreted as separator between
  two words. As if I want to search for 123 and 4567. I do not know a solution.

o Of course I had written documents with a certain layout. I have to find
  solutions for some of my paragraph layouts (e.g. right-aligned tab stops).

o I adapt a copy of the regular settings file on our network. I do not know,
  if there is a standard solution, where this settings file should reside.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 10:58 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best 
practices and good documentation?

Hi group

I'm looking for best practices and good documentation (or user groups) on how 
to use and customize FrameMaker 2019 responsive HTML5 output, generated from 
unstructured Fm files and from ditamaps. The FrameMaker "Help" does not help me 
very much:

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf

Thanks

Yves 
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Re: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best practices and good documentation?

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Yves,

I also started to convert my unstructured documentation to HTML5.
And I do not have any tutorials or best practices. I am still experimenting.
I will look for more information in the online help and in the various forums
and blogs.
My first impressions and questions:

o Default settings are good.

o I do not know which font will be used. Probably my font will be replaced
  by something else. However, I do not know, which fonts are on Android
  or iOS. Is there are default replacement?

o Graphics conversion with SVG is best. However, if you have
  some other objects in the same anchored frame, then you should
  convert to raster images. I find the results much better than I expected.

o When you have tables with table titles with several paragraphs, then
  you have to use a work-around. HTML allows only a single paragraph.
  See here: https://forums.adobe.com/message/10987920#10987920

o I do not know how I can define which text goes into a topic title.
  E.g. when my paragraph to start a new topic has a table anchor, then
  the whole anchor paragraph and the whole table text will be in the topic
  title.

o Most of our products have order codes like 123.4567. When I want
  to search for such order codes, the . is interpreted as separator between
  two words. As if I want to search for 123 and 4567. I do not know a solution.

o Of course I had written documents with a certain layout. I have to find
  solutions for some of my paragraph layouts (e.g. right-aligned tab stops).

o I adapt a copy of the regular settings file on our network. I do not know,
  if there is a standard solution, where this settings file should reside.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 10:58 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best 
practices and good documentation?

Hi group

I'm looking for best practices and good documentation (or user groups) on how 
to use and customize FrameMaker 2019 responsive HTML5 output, generated from 
unstructured Fm files and from ditamaps. The FrameMaker "Help" does not help me 
very much:

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf

Thanks

Yves 
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Re: [Framers] Formatting source code snippets

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Peter,

When I have to document our API like software, I have several tab stops 
set in the paragraph designer.
Then I just enter as many tabs in the text to have the wanted indentation. 
This way I can more easily copy and paste code samples.
Yes, and I also have a monospaced font (Courier, but e.g. Microsoft 
Consolas is equally good).

That's just my approach. Others might have better procedures.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Peter Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:02 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Formatting source code snippets

Hi everyone,

I have seen variations of this topic in the archives dating from 2007. I was 
wondering what strategies FrameMaker 2019 users employ to reproduce code 
snippets in API reference guides and the like. I used to format each 
indentation with a different style and also used to just copy and paste into a 
monotype style to preserve the formatting without having to re-create it in 
Frame. Any suggestions or better work methods are much appreciated.

Best,
Peter
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Re: [Framers] PDFs and FM 2019

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Dan,

I also have FM 2019 64 bit and could not install SetPrint.
However, I think it's not needed any longer (only, if you
want to print to a file).
If you create a PDF via Save As PDF or via the Publish pod
(with Use Acrobat Distiller for PDF generation activated),
the PDF is created correctly. I do not notice any difference,
when the printer is set to a physical printer or to Adobe PDF.

When you create the PDF without Distiller, then you do not
need SetPrint anyway.

I also have some issues when FrameMaker creates the PDF.
I hope that this gets fixed soon!

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 5:00 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] PDFs and FM 2019

...
1. Sundorne's Setprint no longer appears to work, presumably because it was a 
32-bit application and is incompatible with 64-bit FM. Is there a 64-bit 
version of that utility or some other method to always set the printer to Adobe 
PDF whenever opening a document? The error I receive is as follows:
...
2. More of an FYI than an issue: By default, FrameMaker 2019 is configured to 
NOT use Acrobat Distiller to create PDFs... why I have no idea. When I used the 
default config, my PDFs had all sorts of missing elements throughout the 
document... placed graphics, running feet, you name it. It was only when I 
checked the box to use Distiller that I got fully intact PDFs.
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Re: [Framers] HTML5: table titles have no font information when there are several paragraphs

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

Markus Wiedenmaier from the German frameuser.de mailing list said
that several paragraphs in a table title are not allowed in HTML. 
That's why FrameMaker concatenates all paragraphs in the table title.

He suggested to apply a character format with all set to As Is to all paragraphs
in the table title besides the last one. With the export to HTML a section in
the CSS is added:
span.FM_dummy {
}
Change this to:
span.FM_dummy {
white-space: pre-line;
}
span.FM_dummy:after {
content:" \A ";
}
This adds a line break after each paragraph. 

In the HTML file the paragraph without font info is . 
In the CSS add this to the regular table title definition so that this 
paragraph 
is formatted as the working table title paragraphs (those from tables with only 
a single paragraph):
Old:
caption.FM_figuretitle {...}
New:
caption.FM_figuretitle, caption.caption {...}

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Reng Winfried
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 9:13 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] HTML5: table titles have no font information when there are 
several paragraphs

Hi,

I want to start the export to HTML5. When I use the default export settings 
(and some tweaks), the export looks very good in my browser and on my 
smartphone.

However, one thing does not work. When there are several paragraphs in a table 
title, all paragraphs are concatenated. In the HTML file the text of all 
paragraphs is just in a single paragraph.
Additionally the paragraph does not have any font information. Which means 
Times or something like this. In the HTML file there is a format which is not 
listed in the CSS file (class="caption").
With a single paragraph everything is fine.

Is there anything which I can do about this? What can I do that the export 
maintains the separate paragraphs?

Best regards

Winfried 
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[Framers] HTML5: table titles have no font information when there are several paragraphs

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I want to start the export to HTML5. When I use the default
export settings (and some tweaks), the export looks very good
in my browser and on my smartphone.

However, one thing does not work. When there are several paragraphs
in a table title, all paragraphs are concatenated. In the HTML file the text
of all paragraphs is just in a single paragraph.
Additionally the paragraph does not have any font information. Which
means Times or something like this. In the HTML file there is a format
which is not listed in the CSS file (class="caption").
With a single paragraph everything is fine.

Is there anything which I can do about this? What can I do that
the export maintains the separate paragraphs?

Best regards

Winfried
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Re: [Framers] Now it's a buggy SVG IMPORT into Frame 2019 files

[Reng Winfried]

Hi,

I have the same problem with SVG exported from 
Corel Designer. Parts of the graphics get shifted or stacked.
When I ungrouped everything prior to the export, the SVG
is still distorted in FrameMaker. Pitty that this does not work.

The only work-around which I know is:
In Corel Designer select everything and convert only the selected content to 
PDF.
In InkScape open the PDF, crop the page to the imported content (with 1 mm 
offset)
and export to SVG.
Not good for 700 graphics files in my installation instructions ...

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:03 PM
To: Frame Users ; amito...@adobe.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Now it's a buggy SVG IMPORT into Frame 2019 files

I've a new update, in case anyone is still curious about this. I've added the 
information to Tracker, also.

I had been trained to group all the objects in Visio before saving out to SVG, 
and that was the process I was using back in October, probably because it was 
the only way to save just the graphics without including the whole page they 
were on. When we switched to using PDF format as a workaround, though, we had 
to shrink the page to fit the image, and today it occurred to me to see what 
would happen if I did NOT group the objects before saving out to SVG.

Lo and behold, the issue is fixed. None of the lines or text additions to 
screenshots or photographs are moved when I import the SVG into Frame as long 
as the objects in the Visio file aren't grouped. How weird is that?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:28 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Hi Yves,
>
> Did they loop you in on this? :-)
>
> As far as I can tell, there are no options in Visio to change how 
> fonts/glyphs are embedded, but I'm not a Visio power user. All I know 
> is that graphic when saved from Visio as an SVG looks fine in a 
> browser, but if you try to import the SVG into FrameMaker or 
> Illustrator, the graphic callouts and any text get shifted. The same 
> graphic exported from Visio to PDF, however, looks fine when it is 
> imported into FrameMaker, and that's my current focus. Since that 
> works, that's what we're going with until Adobe has a fix.
>
> Adobe had suggested editing positioning information in the SVG as a 
> potential workaround, but that gets fiddly and time intensive and 
> really wasn't viable, especially since Adobe is working to correct the 
> issue. We'd just have to redo the images again once the fix is available.
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:17 AM Yves Barbion 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lin
>>
>> Looks like a problem with font embedding in the SVG files. I don't 
>> know about Visio, but in Adobe Illustrator, you can select font 
>> embedding settings when you save your graphic as SVG: subset only 
>> glyphs used, all glyphs, no glyphs (and use system fonts) etc.
>>
>> Maybe you could do some tests with those settings? There may be one 
>> which works with Fm 2019.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Yves
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 22:01, Lin Sims  wrote:
>>
>> > If it's not one thing, it's another.
>> >
>> > I'm still on Windows 7, so I've continued importing my images into 
>> > Frame
>> > 2017 as SVG files since I have no issues creating PDFs from them.
>> >
>> > But we've JUST upgraded to Frame 2019, and now the IMPORT of SVG 
>> > images into Frame has gone screwy. In this case, the images are 
>> > screenshots
>> taken
>> > with SnagIt, pasted into Visio where graphic callouts and a text 
>> > box containing the graphic's number is added, and exported to SVG.
>> >
>> > When the resulting SVG is imported into FrameMaker, all the 
>> > callouts and the graphic's number MOVE, either to the right (in the 
>> > case of the
>> > callouts) or to the left (in the case of the text box containing 
>> > the graphic's number).
>> >
>> > For now, I'm giving up on SVGs and we're just going to import Visio
>> files,
>> > since that doesn't appear to have any problems. I have 
>> > non-proprietary examples of the issue (as JPG images) for those interested 
>> > in a look.
>> I'm
>> > not attaching them because I can't remember if the list software 
>> > scrapes attachments off or not. I've also posted a query in the 
>> > Adobe FrameMaker forum. I'm still debating whether to file a bug report. 
>> > .
>> >
>> > Weekend, here I come.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lin Sims 
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Re: [Framers] wash via mif?

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Lin,

Thank you very much. Now it works.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of Lin Sims
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 3:04 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] wash via mif?

Whoops. Sorry, yes, you do. This information is from the fm_bookmifwash.c file. 
I don't know why Adobe hasn't provided a readme for this.

2. Open maker.ini file in the FrameMaker 10 directory. Add the following lines 
to the [APIClients] section of the maker.ini file:
* MIFwash=Standard, MIF Wash, fminit\BookComponentMIFWash.dll, all

The tool is available under Book Utilities when the book is in focus.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:39 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Lin,
>
> I copied and pasted the dll and restarted FrameMaker, but I do not get 
> any MIF wash menu item.
> Is there anything else what I have to do?
> Update maker.ini or something like this?
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 6:22 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] wash via mif?
>
> If you're talking about the BookMIFWash dll (BookComponentMIFWash.dll) 
> that Adobe supplies as a sample of how to create plugins, an updated 
> version is included with Frame 2019. You need to copy it from
>
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 
> 2019\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\BookMIFWash
>
> to
>
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 2019\fminit
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 9:25 AM Crety, Christiane < 
> christiane.cr...@cobham.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > Does anyone know if you can use Wash via MIF with FM 2019? We just 
> > upgraded (from FM 10!) and even though we copied the dll file to the 
> > same location in the FM 2019 folder it doesn't seem to work. Is it 
> > not supported in FM 2019? And if not, do you know of a similar 
> > function to "wash" the files?
> > Thanks,
> > BR Christiane
> >
> > --
> > Christiane Crety
> > Technical writer
> > Cobham SATCOM
> > T : +45 3955 8682 M : +45 2092 
> > 2704 
> > christiane.cr...@cobham.com<mailto:christiane.cr...@cobham.com>
> >
> > Thrane & Thrane A/S trading as Cobham SATCOM, Lundtoftegaardsvej 93 
> > D, DK-2800, KGS. LYNGBY, Denmark. +45 3955 8800 
> > www.cobham.com/satcom< http://www.cobham.com/satcom>
> >
> > Registered office Lundtoftegaardsvej 93D, DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark.
> > Registered number DK - 65724618.

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Re: [Framers] wash via mif?

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Lin,

I copied and pasted the dll and restarted FrameMaker, but I do not get
any MIF wash menu item.
Is there anything else what I have to do?
Update maker.ini or something like this?

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 6:22 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] wash via mif?

If you're talking about the BookMIFWash dll (BookComponentMIFWash.dll) that 
Adobe supplies as a sample of how to create plugins, an updated version is 
included with Frame 2019. You need to copy it from

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker
2019\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\BookMIFWash

to

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 2019\fminit

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 9:25 AM Crety, Christiane < 
christiane.cr...@cobham.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Does anyone know if you can use Wash via MIF with FM 2019? We just 
> upgraded (from FM 10!) and even though we copied the dll file to the 
> same location in the FM 2019 folder it doesn't seem to work. Is it not 
> supported in FM 2019? And if not, do you know of a similar function to 
> "wash" the files?
> Thanks,
> BR Christiane
>
> --
> Christiane Crety
> Technical writer
> Cobham SATCOM
> T : +45 3955 8682 M : +45 2092 
> 2704 
> christiane.cr...@cobham.com
>
> Thrane & Thrane A/S trading as Cobham SATCOM, Lundtoftegaardsvej 93 D, 
> DK-2800, KGS. LYNGBY, Denmark. +45 3955 8800 www.cobham.com/satcom< 
> http://www.cobham.com/satcom>
>
> Registered office Lundtoftegaardsvej 93D, DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark.
> Registered number DK - 65724618. 
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RE: Off topic: Helping translators with localised screen shots

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Verner, 

I take also the screenshots in other languages. Translators
could not deal with our software, and if I had to explain
how they could open a specific window, I rather do it myself.
I have a multilingual Windows, so that all buttons (also
buttons like Cancel) will have the correct language.

I do not scale any screenshot in a picture editor. And I also
do not have screenshots of parts of windows. Thus windows in
other languages have the same size. Screenshots are only
scaled in FrameMaker. If I exchange the screenshot of a
language with that of another language in another size,
no rescaling is needed. I use EPS for the import in FrameMaker.

I know that some people request scaling in a picture editor
as part of their workflow. In my oppinion this is a waste
of time. The scaling is done in the Distiller.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:04 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; FrameMaker discussion list 
 (omsys) (FrameMaker discussion list(omsys))
 Subject: Off topic: Helping translators with localised screen shots
 
 My English manual with 300+ screen shots is now going to be 
 updated and
 then translated into 6 languages. The screen shots are to be 
 localized.
 I use SnagIt 7.2.3.
 
 I plan to give them my English manual with the English screen shots as
 links. The idea is that they replace the English screen shots with the
 localised ones.
  
 I realize that I may help the translators in different ways, 
 so that it
 is easier for them to get the screen shots into Framemaker without
 having to rescale them.
  
 Maybe I should have 2 or 3 standard. dpi settings for 
 imported graphics?
 Which ones do you suggest?
 For some screens I have minimized the application window before I take
 the screen shot in order to display all screen texts in a readable way
 in Framemaker.
  
 What are your guidelines for translators who are to take screen shots?
 What are you guidelines for importing screen shots into Framemaker?
  
  
 Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
 Verner Andersen
 Technical Writer
 
 Radiometer Medical ApS
 Phone +45 3827 3612
 Fax +45 3827 2727
 verner.ander...@radiometer.dk
 
 
 
 
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Off topic: Helping translators with localised screen shots

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Verner, 

I take also the screenshots in other languages. Translators
could not deal with our software, and if I had to explain
how they could open a specific window, I rather do it myself.
I have a multilingual Windows, so that all buttons (also
buttons like Cancel) will have the correct language.

I do not scale any screenshot in a picture editor. And I also
do not have screenshots of parts of windows. Thus windows in
other languages have the same size. Screenshots are only
scaled in FrameMaker. If I exchange the screenshot of a
language with that of another language in another size,
no rescaling is needed. I use EPS for the import in FrameMaker.

I know that some people request scaling in a picture editor
as part of their workflow. In my oppinion this is a waste
of time. The scaling is done in the Distiller.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:04 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; FrameMaker discussion list 
> (omsys) (FrameMaker discussion list(omsys))
> Subject: Off topic: Helping translators with localised screen shots
> 
> My English manual with 300+ screen shots is now going to be 
> updated and
> then translated into 6 languages. The screen shots are to be 
> localized.
> I use SnagIt 7.2.3.
> 
> I plan to give them my English manual with the English screen shots as
> links. The idea is that they replace the English screen shots with the
> localised ones.
>  
> I realize that I may help the translators in different ways, 
> so that it
> is easier for them to get the screen shots into Framemaker without
> having to rescale them.
>  
> Maybe I should have 2 or 3 standard. dpi settings for 
> imported graphics?
> Which ones do you suggest?
> For some screens I have minimized the application window before I take
> the screen shot in order to display all screen texts in a readable way
> in Framemaker.
>  
> What are your guidelines for translators who are to take screen shots?
> What are you guidelines for importing screen shots into Framemaker?
>  
>  
> Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
> Verner Andersen
> Technical Writer
> 
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Phone +45 3827 3612
> Fax +45 3827 2727
> verner.andersen at radiometer.dk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Radiometer Medical ApS 
> Akandevej 21 
> 2700 Bronshoj 
> Denmark 
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> CVR: 27 50 91 85 
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RE: Bullets in multiple columns

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Steve,

You could also create an anchored frame with the width of
your text frame and insert a new text frame. Then change the
text frame's properties to 2 or more columns and activate
Balance Columns.

You still have to adjust the height of the 2 frames
manually, but you do not need to distribute the content
manually between the 2 columns of a table. You also do
not need to change your table column format or create
a new one.

However, I would recomment to use a dedicated empty anchor
paragraph for the anchored frame. Deselect Line Spacing - Fixed
of this paragraph format. Select the anchored frame and press
ESC m p to adjust its size to that of the text frame.

Best regards

Winfried

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Steve Pawlowskis
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:28 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Bullets in multiple columns
 
 How can I accomplish the following in Frame?
 
 I am trying to vertically compress hundreds of entries that 
 look something like the following:
 
 Heading for this boring subject
 * Bullet 1
 * Bullet 2
 * Bullet 3
 * New
 * Cheaper
 * Safer
 * Faster
 * Greener
 * etc.
 A lengthy explanation of this subject.
 
 
 
 I'd like to display the bullets something like this:
 
 Heading for this boring subject
 * Bullet 1  * Bullet 2
 * Bullet 3  * New
 * Cheaper   * Safer
 * Faster* Greener
 * etc.
 A lengthy explanation of this subject.
 
 Thank you in advance for your assistance.
 
 Steve Pawlowskis
 Technology Coordinator
 
 Kaufman Company, Inc.
 19 Walkhill Road
 Norwood MA   02062
 
 Phone:617.218.1765
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Bullets in multiple columns

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Steve,

You could also create an anchored frame with the width of
your text frame and insert a new text frame. Then change the
text frame's properties to 2 or more columns and activate
"Balance Columns".

You still have to adjust the height of the 2 frames
manually, but you do not need to distribute the content
manually between the 2 columns of a table. You also do
not need to change your table column format or create
a new one.

However, I would recomment to use a dedicated empty anchor
paragraph for the anchored frame. Deselect Line Spacing - Fixed
of this paragraph format. Select the anchored frame and press
ESC m p to adjust its size to that of the text frame.

Best regards

Winfried

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> 
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> 
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> 
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> A lengthy explanation of this subject.
> 
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RE: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

 One plus about FM9 -- the User Guide actually has a long chapter 
 devoted to keyboard shortcuts for navigation, menu choices, equation 
 editor, and so on.  Such documentation was woefully lacking 
 in previous 
 versions.

At least the comment regarding missing documentation
in previous versions is not true. In the FrameMaker 8
online help shortcuts are described at the very end in
Appendix B: Keyboard Shortcuts.

Best regards

Winfried
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FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

> One "plus" about FM9 -- the User Guide actually has a long chapter 
> devoted to keyboard shortcuts for navigation, menu choices, equation 
> editor, and so on.  Such documentation was woefully lacking 
> in previous 
> versions.

At least the comment regarding missing documentation
in previous versions is not true. In the FrameMaker 8
online help shortcuts are described at the very end in
Appendix B: Keyboard Shortcuts.

Best regards

Winfried

RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Avi,

Did you make sure that you selected Generate Acrobat Data
in the Print dialog?

I do not know how you create your PDF files. As a test
print to a PS file (with Adobe PDF as printer and Generate
Acrobat Data selected) and then distill the PS file to a
PDF file.

Best regards

Winfried 

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Avraham Makeler
 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:10 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for 
 the Acrobat Bookmarks pane
 
 Hi all,
 Something seems to have gone wrong with my FM 8 installation.
 
 FM 8 is no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat (v9)
 Bookmarks pane.
 
 I recall the problem started when I was using FM 7.2 on a 
 different PC, but
 had to uninstall Acrobat v9 due to a licensing issue, and then instead
 installed Acrobat 5, which I own. The problems then started 
 on that PC. And
 when I copied the book to the current PC (with FM 8 + Acrobat 
 9) then the
 whole installation stopped creating bookmarks, whichever book 
 I was using.
 
 Thanks,
 
 - avi
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FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Avi,

Did you make sure that you selected "Generate Acrobat Data"
in the Print dialog?

I do not know how you create your PDF files. As a test
print to a PS file (with Adobe PDF as printer and "Generate
Acrobat Data" selected) and then distill the PS file to a
PDF file.

Best regards

Winfried 

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Avraham Makeler
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:10 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for 
> the Acrobat Bookmarks pane
> 
> Hi all,
> Something seems to have gone wrong with my FM 8 installation.
> 
> FM 8 is no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat (v9)
> Bookmarks pane.
> 
> I recall the problem started when I was using FM 7.2 on a 
> different PC, but
> had to uninstall Acrobat v9 due to a licensing issue, and then instead
> installed Acrobat 5, which I own. The problems then started 
> on that PC. And
> when I copied the book to the current PC (with FM 8 + Acrobat 
> 9) then the
> whole installation stopped creating bookmarks, whichever book 
> I was using.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - avi

RE: Fm 8 - Track Changes - problems!

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

If an anchor or a mark, which is adjacent to text with a track
changes condition, is hidden, I assume the following:
o You wanted to delete the text.
o In order to delete the text, you either double-clicked the
  word or you selected it with CTRL+SHIFT+Right arrow.
  With both methods the anchor or mark gets selected as well.
o Then you deleted the text with the anchor/mark.
o The text and the anchor/mark get the condition FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED.
  You see this in the status bar.
o When you hide the condition (via Preview Final), this
  text and the anchor/mark are hidden.

What I'd do:
o Either make sure that you do not delete anchors or marks.
o Or, if the anchor/mark has the condition FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED,
  select it, and then click on Accept Edit. That removes this
  condition.

In any case, deleting text does not apply the condition
FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED to adjacent anchors or marks,
if they weren't selected.

The Track Changes conditions cannot be applied or shown/hidden
via the conditional text dialogs.

Best regards

Winfried

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 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Stephen O'Brien
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:53 PM
 To: fram...@frameusers.com; fram...@omsys.com
 Subject: Fm 8 - Track Changes - problems!
 
 The Track Changes feature uses, I assume, 
 conditional formats to color text and manage changes (refuse, accept).
 
 Problem: This feature seems to result in an 
 unknown (un-named) conditional format affecting 
 neighboring anchor symbols. So when I specify 
 that only conditional format CF1 be shown, the 
 polluted anchored frames that are supposed to 
 have NO conditional format do not show, giving 
 unresolved x-refs (see Fig. 3.1 but no anchored frame!!).
 
 I have found such situations in my current 
 documents. Now if I try and use the normal dialog 
 box to unconditionalize a selection of text 
 containing the anchored frame symbol...nothing happens.
 
 Solution: I have to (1) move the anchored frame 
 symbol elsewhere to a paragraph without any track 
 changes, and (2) delete the still conditionalized 
 text manually and re-enter that text and recreate any affected x-refs.
 
 Took time to find/understand (?)/solve! And I 
 don't have all that much hair left (will soon move to fingernails)!!
 
 Any one else have this problem? Any better solutions or tips?
 
 Thanks!!
 
 P.S. I have the latest FM patch. XP with latest patch.
 
 
 Stephen O'Brien
 Rédacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
 InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
 Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6
 
 Tel.: (418) 688-2061
 Fax: (418) 688-3001
 E-mail: sobr...@innovmetric.com
 www.innovmetric.com
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Fm 8 - Track Changes - problems!

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

If an anchor or a mark, which is adjacent to text with a track
changes condition, is hidden, I assume the following:
o You wanted to delete the text.
o In order to delete the text, you either double-clicked the
  word or you selected it with CTRL+SHIFT+Right arrow.
  With both methods the anchor or mark gets selected as well.
o Then you deleted the text with the anchor/mark.
o The text and the anchor/mark get the condition "FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED".
  You see this in the status bar.
o When you hide the condition (via "Preview Final"), this
  text and the anchor/mark are hidden.

What I'd do:
o Either make sure that you do not delete anchors or marks.
o Or, if the anchor/mark has the condition "FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED",
  select it, and then click on "Accept Edit". That removes this
  condition.

In any case, deleting text does not apply the condition
"FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED" to adjacent anchors or marks,
if they weren't selected.

The Track Changes conditions cannot be applied or shown/hidden
via the conditional text dialogs.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen O'Brien
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:53 PM
> To: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
> Subject: Fm 8 - Track Changes - problems!
> 
> The Track Changes feature uses, I assume, 
> conditional formats to color text and manage changes (refuse, accept).
> 
> Problem: This feature seems to result in an 
> unknown (un-named) conditional format affecting 
> neighboring anchor symbols. So when I specify 
> that only conditional format CF1 be shown, the 
> polluted anchored frames that are supposed to 
> have NO conditional format do not show, giving 
> unresolved x-refs (see Fig. 3.1 but no anchored frame!!).
> 
> I have found such situations in my current 
> documents. Now if I try and use the normal dialog 
> box to unconditionalize a selection of text 
> containing the anchored frame symbol...nothing happens.
> 
> Solution: I have to (1) move the anchored frame 
> symbol elsewhere to a paragraph without any track 
> changes, and (2) delete the still conditionalized 
> text manually and re-enter that text and recreate any affected x-refs.
> 
> Took time to find/understand (?)/solve! And I 
> don't have all that much hair left (will soon move to fingernails)!!
> 
> Any one else have this problem? Any better solutions or tips?
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> P.S. I have the latest FM patch. XP with latest patch.
> 
> 
> Stephen O'Brien
> R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
> InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
> 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
> Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6
> 
> Tel.: (418) 688-2061
> Fax: (418) 688-3001
> E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
> www.innovmetric.com
> PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for 
> Manufacturing (TM)

Frame 9: improved CMYK

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

Here is another post from Arnis Gubins from the Adobe FrameMaker
forum:

... After extensive testing with his files and others, using
imported PDFs with the new CMYK SaveAsPDF is broken from the get go.

When using imported PDFs in FM, the CMYK SaveAsPDF option renders
these imported PDFs as low-res RGB TIFFs on output. Yuck! A major
foobar in the latest point version of this release.

HOWEVER, using EPS files works just fine! So converting the PDFs to
EPS before import is a workaround for now.

---

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Art Campbell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:04 PM
> To: Mike H
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Frame 9: improved CMYK
> 
> Mike,
> There are a couple of threads about CMYK support on the Adobe 
> User Forum for
> Frame.
> According to one of the moderators there (Arnis, who I'm not 
> sure is on this
> list), who has played with this a bit:
> 
> "Yes, CMYK (and spot colours too) works when doing the Save As PDF
> (Adobe somehow manages to slip in a different postscript header that
> isn't available when you manually print to the Adobe PDF printer
> instance). The Save As PDF works very well when everything is
> configured correctly."
> 
> So the trick seems to be electing the SaveAs option rather 
> than Printing,
> which is the default for many of us.
> I would have done it the other way around, but ...
> 
> Cheers,
> Art
> 
> Art Campbell
>  art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
> '52 Vincent and a
> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No 
> disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Mike H  wrote:
> 
> > Hmm -
> > what does the 'improved CMYK support' in Frame 9 entail? MY CMYK
> > colour definitions (Pantone Process) still get converted to RGB if I
> > set the joboptions to, 'leave colour as is.' - And I just 
> note that p.
> > 446 of the manual still says that the default is CMYK -> RGB
> > conversion. However, the next paragraph tells me: "if you deselect
> > this option [which one?] Framemaker preserves CMYK 
> colours." What am I
> > missing, what option can I deselect to preserve my CMYK 
> views (I only
> > import *.eps, so that's not the issue.)?
> >
> > I know that in the pdf joboptions I can turn on, "convert 
> all colours
> > to cmyk", but that gives me CMYK (colour 'view') -> RGB -> CMYK, and
> > my Pantone percentages get all mixed up in the process. How do I
> > preserve my CMYK colour definitions without going through RGB?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >
> > -
> > Michael Heine
> > London, ON
> > Canada

RE: Frame 9: improved CMYK

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

Here is another post from Arnis Gubins from the Adobe FrameMaker
forum:

... After extensive testing with his files and others, using
imported PDFs with the new CMYK SaveAsPDF is broken from the get go.

When using imported PDFs in FM, the CMYK SaveAsPDF option renders
these imported PDFs as low-res RGB TIFFs on output. Yuck! A major
foobar in the latest point version of this release.

HOWEVER, using EPS files works just fine! So converting the PDFs to
EPS before import is a workaround for now.

---

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Art Campbell
 Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:04 PM
 To: Mike H
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Frame 9: improved CMYK
 
 Mike,
 There are a couple of threads about CMYK support on the Adobe 
 User Forum for
 Frame.
 According to one of the moderators there (Arnis, who I'm not 
 sure is on this
 list), who has played with this a bit:
 
 Yes, CMYK (and spot colours too) works when doing the Save As PDF
 (Adobe somehow manages to slip in a different postscript header that
 isn't available when you manually print to the Adobe PDF printer
 instance). The Save As PDF works very well when everything is
 configured correctly.
 
 So the trick seems to be electing the SaveAs option rather 
 than Printing,
 which is the default for many of us.
 I would have done it the other way around, but ...
 
 Cheers,
 Art
 
 Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
 '52 Vincent and a
 redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No 
 disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Mike H sene...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hmm -
  what does the 'improved CMYK support' in Frame 9 entail? MY CMYK
  colour definitions (Pantone Process) still get converted to RGB if I
  set the joboptions to, 'leave colour as is.' - And I just 
 note that p.
  446 of the manual still says that the default is CMYK - RGB
  conversion. However, the next paragraph tells me: if you deselect
  this option [which one?] Framemaker preserves CMYK 
 colours. What am I
  missing, what option can I deselect to preserve my CMYK 
 views (I only
  import *.eps, so that's not the issue.)?
 
  I know that in the pdf joboptions I can turn on, convert 
 all colours
  to cmyk, but that gives me CMYK (colour 'view') - RGB - CMYK, and
  my Pantone percentages get all mixed up in the process. How do I
  preserve my CMYK colour definitions without going through RGB?
 
  Cheers,
  Mike
 
  -
  Michael Heine
  London, ON
  Canada
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RE: PDF Documentation

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

In Germany law requests documentation to install and use
the product and to avoid any dangers. All court judgements
still regard only paper documentation as proper documentation.
However, at least for products which are used together with
a PC this seems to change _slowly_.

I do not think that Germans regard paper documentation as
bad, non-green etc. Think of your parents. Would they
prefer PDF? I guess, all depends on product, audience and
circumstances.

Best regards

Winfried 

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 John Sgammato
 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:37 AM
 To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
 
 Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer said that in
 Germany, his customers prefer PDFs to printed books, for all the usual
 reasons, PLUS they strongly feel that paper manuals are a sign of a
 company that does not think green. 
 Whether they are right or wrong is immaterial; we probably won't be
 sending printed docs to German customers unless they ask for them.
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PDF Documentation

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

In Germany law requests documentation to install and use
the product and to avoid any dangers. All court judgements
still regard only paper documentation as proper documentation.
However, at least for products which are used together with
a PC this seems to change _slowly_.

I do not think that Germans regard paper documentation as
"bad", non-green etc. Think of your parents. Would they
prefer PDF? I guess, all depends on product, audience and
circumstances.

Best regards

Winfried 

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Sgammato
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:37 AM
> To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
> 
> Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer said that in
> Germany, his customers prefer PDFs to printed books, for all the usual
> reasons, PLUS they strongly feel that paper manuals are a sign of a
> company that does not "think green". 
> Whether they are right or wrong is immaterial; we probably won't be
> sending printed docs to German customers unless they ask for them.

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/
character designer, marker window), and I do not notice
anything special. Specifically jumping around with the
insertion mark or selecting text is fast.

I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.

Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general
cause problems.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Art Campbell
 Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:20 PM
 To: Avraham Makeler
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
 
 The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're 
 going to run into
 more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal 
 amount... 2G or
 more is recommended if you work with long documents or want 
 to have another
 RAM-hungry application running at the same time (like photoshop).
 
 ARt
 
 Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
 '52 Vincent and a
 redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No 
 disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Avraham Makeler 
 amake...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the 
 Designer dial
  boxes
  open (definitely more professional that way... - like 
 having side panels
  open in Vis Studio, and HTML editors etc.), so I closed 
 them, and la voila!
  that did the trick!
  Thanks!
 
  - avi
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Stephen O'Brien 
 sobr...@innovmetric.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext 
 dialog box is
   open...
  
   Have a nice day!
  
  
   At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote:
  
   Hi all,
   FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor 
 tasks like
   jumping
   the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. 
 My PC is a 2.8
  GHz
   Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and 
 great for
   everything else.
  
   FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC.
  
   Has anybody else noticed this about FM8?
  
   Is there something I can to do to speed things up? Like 
 disable some
  mode
   or
   something?
  
   TIA
  
   - avi
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   2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
   Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6
  
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RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

When you set manual page breaks via Special | Page Break,
you can decide, whether you want to remove them with a format
import. There is a check box While Updating, Remove Manual
Page Breaks.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
 Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:26 PM
 To: amake...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?
 
 
 Avi Makeler wrote:
  
  Thanks for the responses.
  
   You could choose Special Page Break. The problem with 
 that method is
   that FrameMaker removes the page break anytime you 
 remove overrides.
  
  What?! Really?! In Word this is style independent and is a 
 hard break , as
  real as typing avi or any ASCII character(s). 
  
 That's because Word inserts a control character that *is* the 
 page break.
 FrameMaker does not. You force FrameMaker to break the page either by
 specifying the start location for the paragraph that follows 
 the break (to
 top of page or top of column), or by specifying a large 
 enough space
 below pgf for the preceding paragraph so that the next 
 paragraph cannot 
 possibly occur on the same page. In either case, unless you create a 
 dedicated style (e.g. H2_newpage or Body_breakafter), the formatting 
 that forces the break is a format override. And if you follow 
 the common
 beneficial practice of periodically eliminating overrides by 
 re-importing the 
 template's formats into your document, you will eliminate those page 
 breaks when you do the import.  
  
  No way of making a permanent  page break?
  
 The way of making a persistent (noting is ever truly 
 permanent...) page
 break is to define one or more paragraph formats that are 
 specifically 
 defined to produce a page break.  But as others have noted, 
 it's generally
 a bad idea to use persistent page breaks because they are 
 very likely to
 become inappropriate as the text expands and contracts due to editing
 and revision of the document.  The approach that entails the 
 least work
 to maintain is to ignore page breaks until you are preparing for final
 publication, and to strip out all the manual breaks as the 
 first step before
 you start making revisions for the next edition of the document.
  
  And if I make a Heading style that starts at the start of a 
 page, I will
  have to make a variant like that for H2, H3, H4 and H5.
  
 Also note that you'd need to remember to include *both* variants of 
 each heading in the include list when you set up your TOC. 
 Otherwise,
 you'd only get the headings that don't start a new page.
  
 The other approach is to control the break from the preceding page by
 using a non-content paragraph that has its space below pgf 
 formatting
 set to the vertical dimension of your main flow text frame. When you 
 insert that paragraph, it will inevitably force the next paragraph to 
 the top of a new page. And because it is a single-purpose paragraph 
 that you never use to hold content, you can globally delete them to 
 get rid of all your manual page breaks before starting a new 
 version of 
 the document. 
  
 -Fred Ridder
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FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/
character designer, marker window), and I do not notice
anything special. Specifically jumping around with the
insertion mark or selecting text is fast.

I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.

Therefore I do not think that dialog boxes in general
cause problems.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Art Campbell
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:20 PM
> To: Avraham Makeler
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
> 
> The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're 
> going to run into
> more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal 
> amount... 2G or
> more is recommended if you work with long documents or want 
> to have another
> RAM-hungry application running at the same time (like photoshop).
> 
> ARt
> 
> Art Campbell
>  art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
> '52 Vincent and a
> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No 
> disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Avraham Makeler 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the 
> Designer dial
> > boxes
> > open (definitely more professional that way... - like 
> having side panels
> > open in Vis Studio, and HTML editors etc.), so I closed 
> them, and la voila!
> > that did the trick!
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - avi
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Stephen O'Brien 
>  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext 
> dialog box is
> > > open...
> > >
> > > Have a nice day!
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >> FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor 
> tasks like
> > >> jumping
> > >> the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. 
> My PC is a 2.8
> > GHz
> > >> Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and 
> great for
> > >> everything else.
> > >>
> > >> FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC.
> > >>
> > >> Has anybody else noticed this about FM8?
> > >>
> > >> Is there something I can to do to speed things up? Like 
> disable some
> > mode
> > >> or
> > >> something?
> > >>
> > >> TIA
> > >>
> > >> - avi
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How do you create a new paragraph after a table?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

When you set manual page breaks via "Special | Page Break",
you can decide, whether you want to remove them with a format
import. There is a check box "While Updating, Remove Manual
Page Breaks".

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:26 PM
> To: amakeler at gmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: How do you create a new paragraph after a table?
> 
> 
> Avi Makeler wrote:
>  
> > Thanks for the responses.
> > 
> > >> You could choose Special> Page Break. The problem with 
> that method is
> > >> that FrameMaker removes the page break anytime you 
> remove overrides.
> > 
> > What?! Really?! In Word this is style independent and is a 
> hard break , as
> > real as typing "avi" or any ASCII character(s). 
>  
> That's because Word inserts a control character that *is* the 
> page break.
> FrameMaker does not. You force FrameMaker to break the page either by
> specifying the start location for the paragraph that follows 
> the break (to
> "top of page" or "top of column"), or by specifying a large 
> enough "space
> below pgf" for the preceding paragraph so that the next 
> paragraph cannot 
> possibly occur on the same page. In either case, unless you create a 
> dedicated style (e.g. H2_newpage or Body_breakafter), the formatting 
> that forces the break is a format override. And if you follow 
> the common
> beneficial practice of periodically eliminating overrides by 
> re-importing the 
> template's formats into your document, you will eliminate those page 
> breaks when you do the import.  
>  
> > No way of making a permanent  page break?
>  
> The way of making a persistent (noting is ever truly 
> permanent...) page
> break is to define one or more paragraph formats that are 
> specifically 
> defined to produce a page break.  But as others have noted, 
> it's generally
> a bad idea to use persistent page breaks because they are 
> very likely to
> become inappropriate as the text expands and contracts due to editing
> and revision of the document.  The approach that entails the 
> least work
> to maintain is to ignore page breaks until you are preparing for final
> publication, and to strip out all the manual breaks as the 
> first step before
> you start making revisions for the next edition of the document.
>  
> > And if I make a Heading style that starts at the start of a 
> page, I will
> > have to make a variant like that for H2, H3, H4 and H5.
>  
> Also note that you'd need to remember to include *both* variants of 
> each heading in the "include" list when you set up your TOC. 
> Otherwise,
> you'd only get the headings that don't start a new page.
>  
> The other approach is to control the break from the preceding page by
> using a non-content paragraph that has its "space below pgf" 
> formatting
> set to the vertical dimension of your main flow text frame. When you 
> insert that paragraph, it will inevitably force the next paragraph to 
> the top of a new page. And because it is a single-purpose paragraph 
> that you never use to hold content, you can globally delete them to 
> get rid of all your manual page breaks before starting a new 
> version of 
> the document. 
>  
> -Fred Ridder

RE: See all open markers?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Nancy,

CudSpan's MarkerWorker plug-in might help you.
It creates a list of markers which you can edit and 
then re-insert into your document. It's free.

http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/

Best regards

Winfried

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Nancy Allison
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:34 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: See all open markers?
 
 
 It galls me to admit this, but I really appreciate the ability to see 
 all the hidden markers in a Word file. It enables me to see all the 
 Index markers, for example, and quickly correct inconsistencies.
 
 Is there any clever way of doing this in Frame? Or in a MIF file?
 
 For example, I think a chapter of my book is skimpy on markers. I can 
 generate a List of Markers and look at the page numbers; then 
 I can go 
 to the document and look at the pages that don't have any 
 markers to see 
 if they should.
 
 How delightful it would be to simply page through the 
 document, noting 
 the absence of markers once all markers (or, better yet, just Index 
 markers) had been displayed?
 
 Has anyone made my daydream a reality?
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See all open markers?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Nancy,

CudSpan's MarkerWorker plug-in might help you.
It creates a list of markers which you can edit and 
then re-insert into your document. It's free.

http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/

Best regards

Winfried

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> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nancy Allison
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:34 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: See all open markers?
> 
> 
> It galls me to admit this, but I really appreciate the ability to see 
> all the hidden markers in a Word file. It enables me to see all the 
> Index markers, for example, and quickly correct inconsistencies.
> 
> Is there any clever way of doing this in Frame? Or in a MIF file?
> 
> For example, I think a chapter of my book is skimpy on markers. I can 
> generate a List of Markers and look at the page numbers; then 
> I can go 
> to the document and look at the pages that don't have any 
> markers to see 
> if they should.
> 
> How delightful it would be to simply page through the 
> document, noting 
> the absence of markers once all markers (or, better yet, just Index 
> markers) had been displayed?
> 
> Has anyone made my daydream a reality?
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Boolean condition expression problems in FM 8

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

We have a comment condition which should be hidden in the
final document and other conditions which should be shown.
However, here  I ran into problems, when I have text which
has comment and another condition applied, and  text with
comment should be hidden. I tried this:

o draftORprintORnursecallORNOTcomment - Text which
  has nursecall and comment assigned is shown.

o nurse callANDNOTcommentORdraftORprint - Text which
  has nursecall and comment assigned is hidden. That's
  exactly what I want and it works. Very good. However I cannot
  explain why. Obviously the order is important. But I do not
  want to try all possibilities.
  In my oppinion I would need the option to group the single
  elements in this expression. But that's not allowed.



And other condition issues:

o I have to close all condition windows when I want to do
  something else. I cannot leave them open as before.

o When I select Show All and Set and then again an expression
  my latest expression got lost.

o The FM documentation is not correct when it says: 5. Click
  the AND, OR, or NOT button.
  When I need NOT the result must be ANDNOT or ORNOT.
  I miss examples.

And another minor annoyance: When in FM e.g. the paragraph
designer was active and I switch to another application and go
back to FM, FM 8 displays now only the paragraph designer. The
whole FM window should be shown.

Best regards

Winfried
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RE: Boolean condition expression problems in FM 8

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

Sorry, 2 more issues:

o I noticed that boolean expressions set in one file of a book
  are not overridden when I set Show All for the whole book.
  In this file still Show as per Expression is set.

o When I want to set boolean expressions for the whole book, not
  all available conditions are shown in the boolean expression
  window.
  In the Show/Hide Conditional Text all conditions are shown
  correctly.

Best regards

Winfried

 We have a comment condition which should be hidden in the
 final document and other conditions which should be shown.
 However, here  I ran into problems, when I have text which
 has comment and another condition applied, and  text with
 comment should be hidden. I tried this:
 
 o draftORprintORnursecallORNOTcomment - Text which
   has nursecall and comment assigned is shown.
 
 o nurse callANDNOTcommentORdraftORprint - Text which
   has nursecall and comment assigned is hidden. That's
   exactly what I want and it works. Very good. However I cannot
   explain why. Obviously the order is important. But I do not
   want to try all possibilities.
   In my oppinion I would need the option to group the single
   elements in this expression. But that's not allowed.
 
 
 
 And other condition issues:
 
 o I have to close all condition windows when I want to do
   something else. I cannot leave them open as before.
 
 o When I select Show All and Set and then again an expression
   my latest expression got lost.
 
 o The FM documentation is not correct when it says: 5. Click
   the AND, OR, or NOT button.
   When I need NOT the result must be ANDNOT or ORNOT.
   I miss examples.
 
 And another minor annoyance: When in FM e.g. the paragraph
 designer was active and I switch to another application and go
 back to FM, FM 8 displays now only the paragraph designer. The
 whole FM window should be shown.
 
 Best regards
 
 Winfried
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Boolean condition expression problems in FM 8

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

Sorry, 2 more issues:

o I noticed that boolean expressions set in one file of a book
  are not overridden when I set "Show All" for the whole book.
  In this file still "Show as per Expression" is set.

o When I want to set boolean expressions for the whole book, not
  all available conditions are shown in the boolean expression
  window.
  In the "Show/Hide Conditional Text" all conditions are shown
  correctly.

Best regards

Winfried

> We have a "comment" condition which should be hidden in the
> final document and other conditions which should be shown.
> However, here  I ran into problems, when I have text which
> has "comment" and another condition applied, and  text with
> "comment" should be hidden. I tried this:
> 
> o "draft"OR"print"OR"nursecall"ORNOT"comment" -> Text which
>   has "nursecall" and "comment" assigned is shown.
> 
> o "nurse call"ANDNOT"comment"OR"draft"OR"print" -> Text which
>   has "nursecall" and "comment" assigned is hidden. That's
>   exactly what I want and it works. Very good. However I cannot
>   explain why. Obviously the order is important. But I do not
>   want to try all possibilities.
>   In my oppinion I would need the option to group the single
>   elements in this expression. But that's not allowed.
> 
> 
> 
> And other condition issues:
> 
> o I have to close all condition windows when I want to do
>   something else. I cannot leave them open as before.
> 
> o When I select "Show All" and "Set" and then again an expression
>   my latest expression got lost.
> 
> o The FM documentation is not correct when it says: 5. Click
>   the AND, OR, or NOT button.
>   When I need "NOT" the result must be ANDNOT or ORNOT.
>   I miss examples.
> 
> And another minor annoyance: When in FM e.g. the paragraph
> designer was active and I switch to another application and go
> back to FM, FM 8 displays now only the paragraph designer. The
> whole FM window should be shown.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Winfried

Know bugs in FM 8?

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

I also heard of these bugs in FrameMaker 8:
 - ESC+TAB does not insert TAB when cursor in table cell, 
   but the pound sign (#) is inserted
 - Opening an old file (FM version  8) with missing pictures does 
   not allow to set Ignore all missing files or Skip this file. 
   Only CANCEL is possible or searching for the file to provide new
   path.
 - Overlay graphics on top of imported graphics do not disappear 
   after deletion. Even screen refresh does not clear the image. 
   A re-import of the graphic is necessary

These bugs weren't mentioned on this list (or I didn't notice it).
Can anyone confirm this list? Specifically the second one (missing
graphics) would cause problems for us.

Best regards

Winfried
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Know bugs in FM 8?

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

I also heard of these bugs in FrameMaker 8:
> - ESC+TAB does not insert TAB when cursor in table cell, 
>   but the pound sign (#) is inserted
> - Opening an old file (FM version < 8) with missing pictures does 
>   not allow to set "Ignore all missing files" or "Skip this file". 
>   Only CANCEL is possible or searching for the file to provide new
>   path.
> - Overlay graphics on top of imported graphics do not disappear 
>   after deletion. Even screen refresh does not clear the image. 
>   A re-import of the graphic is necessary

These bugs weren't mentioned on this list (or I didn't notice it).
Can anyone confirm this list? Specifically the second one (missing
graphics) would cause problems for us.

Best regards

Winfried

RE: White paper on bleeding thumb tabs

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

Thanks a lot for all the information, which you
sent me! That was very helpful!

Best regards

Winfried

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 Subject: White paper on bleeding thumb tabs
 
 
 Hi,
 
 On the FrameUser.com web-site there is supposed to be
 a white pager which explains how to switch bleeding
 thumb tabs automatically. There should also be a
 FrameScript script. However, I cannot access neither
 of them. The web-site opens completely different pages.
 
 Does anyone have this white paper and the script and
 could send it to me?
 
 Thank you very much
 
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White paper on bleeding thumb tabs

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

Thanks a lot for all the information, which you
sent me! That was very helpful!

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:38 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: White paper on bleeding thumb tabs
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On the FrameUser.com web-site there is supposed to be
> a white pager which explains how to switch bleeding
> thumb tabs automatically. There should also be a
> FrameScript script. However, I cannot access neither
> of them. The web-site opens completely different pages.
> 
> Does anyone have this white paper and the script and
> could send it to me?
> 
> Thank you very much
> 
> Winfried

White paper on bleeding thumb tabs

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

On the FrameUser.com web-site there is supposed to be
a white pager which explains how to switch bleeding
thumb tabs automatically. There should also be a
FrameScript script. However, I cannot access neither
of them. The web-site opens completely different pages.

Does anyone have this white paper and the script and
could send it to me?

Thank you very much

Winfried
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White paper on bleeding thumb tabs

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

On the FrameUser.com web-site there is supposed to be
a white pager which explains how to switch bleeding
thumb tabs automatically. There should also be a
FrameScript script. However, I cannot access neither
of them. The web-site opens completely different pages.

Does anyone have this white paper and the script and
could send it to me?

Thank you very much

Winfried

RE: Conditional Text Question

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi Sam,

When you apply a condition to a table row, the cells in this
row get a thick coloured border. That's intended behaviour.
When you hide the condition indicators, this border disappears.
Is this what you want to achieve?

Apart from that you can also delete a condition and also the
text and table rows, the condition was applied to.

Best regards

Winfried

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 ]On Behalf
 Of Sam Beard
 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Conditional Text Question
 
 
 Hello All,
 
  
 
I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate 
 between two
 different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this,
 there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a
 LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them
 into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text,
 hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the
 two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the
 book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I
 also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 
 1's text is
 hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently
 remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while
 maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do 
 this is to
 remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized.
 Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that
 are marked as conditional.
 
  
 
I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.2b144.
 
  
 
Thanks much in advance!
 
  
 
 Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
 
 Technical Writer
 
 OI Analytical
 
 979 690-1711 Ext. 222
 
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Conditional Text Question

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi Sam,

When you apply a condition to a table row, the cells in this
row get a thick coloured border. That's intended behaviour.
When you hide the condition indicators, this border disappears.
Is this what you want to achieve?

Apart from that you can also delete a condition and also the
text and table rows, the condition was applied to.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Sam Beard
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:40 PM
> To: framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Conditional Text Question
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
>  
> 
>I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate 
> between two
> different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this,
> there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a
> LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them
> into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text,
> hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the
> two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the
> book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I
> also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 
> 1's text is
> hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently
> remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while
> maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do 
> this is to
> remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized.
> Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that
> are marked as conditional.
> 
>  
> 
>I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.2b144.
> 
>  
> 
>Thanks much in advance!
> 
>  
> 
> Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
> 
> Technical Writer
> 
> OI Analytical
> 
> 979 690-1711 Ext. 222
> 
> sbeard at oico.com
> 
>  
> 
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FrameMaker in Hebrew

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi Dov,

I don't know whether it is allowed to tell that.
FrameMaker 8 was said to support Unicode. Will it
also support right-to-left languages?

Best regards

Winfried

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> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Dov Isaacs
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:15 AM
> To: Marc Creaghan; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker in Hebrew
> 
> 
> (1)   The current version of FrameMaker is not
> a Unicode application and cannot readily map the
> Hebrew Unicode character set to FrameMaker's own
> internal character set.
> 
> (2)   Even if you were to map the character set,
> FrameMaker does not have the ability to deal with
> right-to-left languages including Hebrew, Arabic,
> and Farsi.
> 
> FrameMaker does not work in Hebrew!
> 
>   - Dov
> 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Marc Creaghan
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:30 AM
> > 
> >Hi Everybody,
> > 
> >I have one more quick question:
> > 
> >Does FrameMaker work well in Hebrew?
> > 
> >Thanks in advance for your help.
> > 
> >Marc

RE: Can't Change Paragraph Tag

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi Steve,

I don't know when this flag gets set. In the MIF documentation
it mentions text insets. Eventually there was a text inset
before/after this paragraph which was deleted and the paragraph
retained its flag.

I had the same problem some time ago and noticed this flag in
the MIF file. Deleting it fixed the problem.

Best regards

Winfried

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 ]On Behalf
 Of Steve Rickaby
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:23 PM
 To: Parcell, Michelle; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Can't Change Paragraph Tag
 
 
 At 09:11 -0400 20/6/07, Parcell, Michelle wrote:
 
 Thanks, Steve and Kimber, for the suggestion. Unfortunately, 
 the problem was that I *couldn't* remove it or change it - 
 the tag wouldn't let me manipulate it in any way. However, 
 Winfried Reng did provide a solution that worked and for 
 which I am very grateful:
 
 Check in the MIF file whether this H1 paragraph at the end
 of the chapter has a property PgfLocked Yes. Set this to No,
 save the MIF file, reopen and see, whether you can change the
 paragraph format.
 
 Heavy. I retract my remark about MIF manipulation.
 
 As a matter of interest, how does this flag get set? Is there 
 a control in FrameMaker to lock a paragraph like this, or can 
 in only be done in the MIF? What is its purpose?
 
 -- 
 Steve
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